[05:31] morning all [05:32] morning [05:32] :/ [05:32] to be woken up when you don't need to be woken up :/ [05:34] aw thats not nice' [05:36] need to restart xchat [06:13] morning superfly Superhuman [06:13] Morning Mr Kilos! [06:13] Mr? [06:13] aren't a Mr? [06:13] hahaha [06:14] all good there superfly ? [06:19] morning Kilos, Superhuman [06:19] long time no smell, Superhuman [06:19] awe superfly [06:19] too long [06:19] Kilos: alles is fine, I'm just dead [06:20] How's the cape? [06:20] aw wassup [06:20] fine and sunny, looks like it'll be a warm day [06:20] dead sucks. the worms eat you without salt [06:20] tired and sore [06:20] I did gardening this weekend [06:20] at 8 am? [06:21] whew [06:21] gonna be a long day [06:22] arent you in a flat anymore [06:22] ? [06:22] no gardens there [06:24] hi josvis [06:30] hi Kilos, seems quiet here, will join up this evening [06:36] Kilos: never been in a flat [06:36] hiya maiatoday [06:37] oh my superfly i missed the bus somewhere [06:51] hi vinnie [06:51] Wow, the range of a level 7 portal in Ingress is MASSIVE [06:51] 384km [06:52] hehe and you gotta try claim it for yourself [06:52] ? [06:52] you gonna be more tired [06:52] No, it'll be a mission to take down [06:54] hi jrgns [06:55] morning Kilos, all [06:56] hi jrgns [06:57] Hi Kilos, superfly and everyone else [06:57] hey maiatoday! [07:00] maiatoday, all good there? we miss you you know [07:03] Hi [07:03] hi Vince-0 [07:03] Its Monday! Be amped [07:03] I keep telling myself [07:04] you guys need to go to work to rest after the weekends [07:04] ha! [07:42] morning :) [07:46] hi ThatGraemeGuy you guys anti pc weekends hey [07:46] hi henkj [07:48] hi Kilos [07:49] morning ThatGraemeGuy [07:49] yeah, if i'm firing up the laptop on a weekend it generally means something at work broke :) [07:49] Kilos: ThatGraemeGuy also has 2 kiddos, one expecially new -- he's busy with reality over weekends :-) [07:49] hehe [07:49] *especially [07:49] ah lekker [07:49] yup [07:50] ThatGraemeGuy, did you buddy go for that job? [07:50] he is the server man right? [07:50] my who now what now? :-~ [07:51] i forget his nickname [07:51] joined here same day as you [07:51] oh CuttingEdge [07:51] yeah him [07:51] i don't know anything about it [07:51] there was need of a server man in bloem [07:52] it was in the mailing list [07:52] they have electricity there? :-o [07:52] yeah [07:52] bloem varsity [07:52] got mean pc stuff [07:53] im not sure if the varsity of technology and the main varsity are same thing [07:54] more inetpro [07:55] superfly: what's this 'reality' you talk about? [07:55] Squirm: it's what happens when you meet a girl [07:56] lol [07:56] superfly: so you haven't met a girl? [07:56] rofl [07:57] and you chase her till she catches you [07:58] I need to get out of Mooi River if I'm going to find this 'reality' then [09:09] hi @all === Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za [10:51] hmmmm debian [11:03] decided to move all my pc's to debian. [11:09] zeref: I'm still kinda debating that... though I haven't really had any big issues with Kubuntu [11:13] server is still ubuntu. [11:13] dont think i'll change that. [11:14] superfly: kde on debian? [11:14] zeref: yup [11:15] cool. [11:15] using debian testing [11:16] had to do a bit of configuring. but once up and running [11:16] awesome. [11:17] only issue i have is that vlc sound is weird. vlc on 100% is very low and 200% is like the usual 100% [12:24] Hi All [12:27] hi [12:29] Anyone here experiencing some weird behaviour on their 12.04 servers from the LAN? [12:33] afternoon all [13:03] hi magespawn [13:04] Yusuf: that is extremely vague, i think you need to be more specific :) [13:17] hey charl_ [13:46] Hi Charl, sorry about being so vague. It seems to be related to my firewall, weird thing is it was working fine till a few days ago and none of the configs are changed [13:46] Looks like its just my luck or lack thereof [13:46] Yusuf: what kind of problems? [13:46] \list [13:46] o0o0 [13:47] Well I have two site running Zentyal [13:47] Up until three days ago client machines could access the servers easily [13:47] Then all of a sudden there is intermittent access [13:48] what does dmesg and syslog say :D [13:48] The firewall policy is set to accept all fron the LAN connected interface [13:49] I did not look at the dmesg output, and syslog did not yield anything useful [13:50] Maybe I need to do some more verbose logging [13:50] are the packets reaching the machine or not when connectivity fails? [13:50] try connect and look and dmesg at the same time [13:50] you would probably need to have tcpdump running while it fails to make sure [13:52] I think they are, but I did not run TCPdump, I should have [13:53] When the firewall is off I get a response [13:54] Thanks zeref and tonberry352 [13:55] I am going back to the site now, will try your suggestions [13:55] Appreciate the direction :) [15:08] hello [15:12] hey kbmonkey [15:12] hi kbmonkey magespawn and others [15:13] hey Kilos [15:15] * ThatGraemeGuy yawns [15:19] hooray work is done [15:39] later all, gotta go home [15:40] cheers magespawn [16:13] yo Vince-0 [16:13] Hi oom [16:14] how you know im a oom? [16:14] I see others say oom [16:14] lol [16:14] so you believe them? [16:15] it's an Afrikaans thing to use uncle as a sign of respect [16:16] yeah but only if the guy is 10 or more years older than you [16:16] im 27 [16:17] ah we just over 10 years then [16:17] aw [16:17] my son is 36 [16:17] hehe [16:17] only 34 years out methinks [16:18] so when the dinosaurs roamed? [16:18] oh no its 2013 [16:18] 35 [16:18] yeah around there [16:18] lol [16:18] I kid [16:19] i know [16:19] need to go fix the garage door - bbl [16:19] caveman times is closer [16:25] quite happy that i can now finally use ipv6 from work natively all the way to my server in a different country [16:26] that took some years but we are getting there [16:33] nice, i can even do a speed test for ipv6 http://i.imgur.com/Um4CDCk.png [16:33] i think i might have found why 12.04 keeps crashing [16:33] slightly slower over ipv6 than ipv4 though for some reason [16:33] dont make me jealous charl_ [16:33] ? [16:33] ipv6 will come around eventually :) [16:33] i found 3 quantal packages in archives [16:33] i don't have ipv6 natively on my home cable connection either [16:34] all xserver.xorg [16:35] but ive put 10.10 on here and if that crashed too then its something in the hardware [16:36] i'm off, have a good evening all! [17:02] hello kilos [17:06] aloha [17:06] hi kbmonkey [17:06] lo oom Kilos [17:06] kbmonkey: watched promethius [17:06] however you spell it [17:07] lo nuvolari [17:07] Zero Dark Thirty was good [17:07] eating [17:07] sies! oom kan nie met 'n mond vol kos chat nie :P [17:17] lol nee man ek het net begin inskep toe pc bloep [17:18] oh :P askuus oom Kilos [17:18] np boet [17:18] gm=np ne? [17:19] askuus oom? [17:19] geen moeite [17:19] no prob [17:19] geen probleem [17:20] o ja [17:20] skuus [17:20] oom se afrikaans verroes [17:20] slegte dag vandag [17:20] :-/ [17:20] hare kussing klap ietwat [17:20] hoekom oom Kilos ? [17:21] evening [17:21] hi Squirm [17:21] hello's Squirm [17:21] how are you? [17:21] anyone done any work with their GPIO on their rPi's? [17:21] I'm very well nuvolari [17:21] still waiting for that visit :P [17:22] Squirm: you hava a pi? [17:22] * nuvolari turns yellow [17:22] had one for months. it's just sat around, haven't used it [17:22] * Squirm wonders if it still works [17:24] nuvolari, yellow? [17:24] green=envy [17:24] Kilos: geel van jaloesie [17:24] oh [17:24] :P [17:25] moet groen wees is dit nie [17:25] in afrikaans is dit geel [17:25] hehe [17:25] nuvolari: it was R360 incl. delivery [17:25] my nooit geweet nie [17:25] Squirm: rs-online? [17:26] nuvolari: yep [17:26] Squirm: where did they deliver to? [17:26] to door? [17:26] nuvolari, dis groen man [17:26] geel is bangheid [17:26] nuvolari: indeed [17:27] Squirm: is that the A or B model? [17:27] B [17:27] idk if they've released A yet [17:27] and B > A [17:27] oh, and do I need any extras? [17:27] hmm [17:27] I keep on forgetting to ask the people that [17:28] the Pi has an HDMI out and a normal Video out [17:28] so depends on what display you want to use [17:28] and SD card [17:28] and some form of Mini Usb B, so Blackberry Charger, etc === jeandre is now known as theblazehen [17:30] micro [17:30] hi all. [17:30] go for samsung chargers [17:30] hi theblazehen [17:31] my blackberry charger does not give entirely enough voltage [17:31] Busy trying tmux and irssi :) I like it [17:31] if I push the pi [17:31] Tonberry: Have you tried a iPad charger? [17:32] lol [17:32] theblazehen: funny [17:32] welcome to the world of irssi theblazehen :) [17:32] no [17:32] kbmonkey: Thanks! [17:33] Squirm: what was funny? [17:33] how would you connect the iPad charger to the rPi [17:33] ? [17:33] python <3 [17:33] Squirm: with usb [17:34] doesn't the ipad charge with a different connection? [17:34] Squirm: It plugs into the iPad with a different connection but the cable that plugs into the charger is USB [17:35] ah [17:35] that makes more sense [17:35] yea... [17:35] hey clever peeps is unplugging an external same as reboot [17:35] external what? hard drive? [17:35] just wrote mbr with testdisk and it said reboot to take effect [17:36] yeah [17:36] theblazehen, you might like to check out irssi scripts called adv_windowlist.pl, burl.pl and nickcolor.pl [17:36] plugged into usb [17:36] Nope it is allready in effect. You just need to reboot if you want to boot from it. [17:36] Or you could use a VM... [17:36] evening all [17:36] hi magespawn [17:36] hey magespawn [17:37] kbmonkey: thanks will check later [17:37] wb mage [17:37] I type faster than my ssh connection allows :p [17:37] got some pics for you to look at of the drive with busted sata connection [17:37] but stupid thing shows only as 160G [17:38] Kilos: even in cfdisk? [17:38] i dunno how to do that theblazehen [17:39] sudo cfdisk /dev/sd* [17:39] ah ty [17:39] eg /dev/sdb [17:39] np [17:40] on the topic of snakes i just a herald out side the back door [17:41] or maybe its hereld [17:41] eek -- fatal error cannot read disk drive [17:41] oops Kilos [17:41] you just a word, magespawn ? ;) [17:41] huh? [17:42] try using ddrescue - do sudo apt-get install ddrescue and then read the man page. Start with eg. a 4MB block size [17:42] will do ty [17:42] that sounds not too good, Kilos [17:42] np, You did choose the correct device right? [17:43] kbmonkey: whatndid you mean? [17:43] magespawn, I meant you left a word out in your sentence. It's a play on a similar meme. [17:44] yeah lots of drives from ian that he tried to fix with his pc that has a virus in bios have strange stuff written to mbr that one sukkels to get rid of [17:44] hah just read what i typed [17:44] caught is the missing word [17:44] yeah theblazehen only my drive and that one and testdisk saw it as sdb [17:45] ok... kinda sucks. And dd won't work? [17:45] and gparted took ages to see it but says its 160g unallocated [17:45] and cant write a partition table to it [17:45] try and ddrescue it to file and then attempt recovery from file [17:46] yea. The drive seems fucked. Just try and save the data [17:46] i just wanna get the thing formatted and working [17:46] data np [17:46] ddrescue only works if the device is recognized [17:47] gparted and testdisk see it as sdb but show not filesystem [17:47] no [17:47] kbmonkey: ok. Thought it was recognising but not wanting to read. Thanks for clarification [17:47] Kilos, you tried the disk manager app yet? it queries drive's SMART capabilities, self diagnostics that tell you if the drive is healthy [17:48] disk utility? [17:48] it is in the system menu if I recall [17:48] yip got it [17:48] ive got 10.10 here [17:49] click on the drive in the list [17:50] says smart status not supported [17:50] okay, it must be too old for that. [17:50] no man 500g sta drives arent so old [17:50] will try format and partition function [17:51] hmm [17:51] Error creating partition table: helper exited with exit code 1: In part_create_partition_table: device_file=/dev/sdb, scheme=0 [17:51] ped_device_get() failed [17:52] yet doesnt show its scrap [17:52] now it's a paper weight :p [17:52] hehe [17:53] oh my ears, my poor ears. neighbors singing karaoke [17:53] ill play with seatools and ubcd for a bit [17:53] kbmonkey: Poor you [17:54] maybe tomorrow [17:54] night all. have a good evening and sleep tight [17:54] toods theblazehen [17:54] nite Kilos [17:54] night Kilos [17:57] I'm trying to add a hotkey mechanism to custom pygame UI buttons. [17:58] python is so much fun [18:07] Hi [18:09] sup Vince-0 [18:09] battlefield [18:09] anyone here use bitcoin? [18:10] did you read the article on Gizmag about bitcoin? [18:10] nope? [18:10] tbh i didn't know much about it before i read that [18:10] oh, just asking >_> [18:10] * Cantide scurries off [18:10] haha, no problem. [18:11] Wrote a php script to automatically trade between btc and usd and was hoping for someone to review it. [18:12] I tried bitcoin but didnt have the cpu power to generate fast enough [18:12] kbmonkey: GPU? [18:12] perhaps I was impatient ;p [18:12] also have a look at sites like coinad.com [18:12] yea... Also ATI is a lot better than Nvida [18:12] are there sites that take them as currency? [18:13] have a look at the silk road. [18:13] no I did not have a GPU at the time [18:13] There are also other sites but I don't remember them now [18:13] kbmonkey: Yea, CPU mining sucks [18:14] indeed. I only mine the tunnels in Moria now [18:14] this is the article i was referring to: http://www.gizmag.com/bitcoin-creation-value-overview/26325/ [18:14] kbmonkey: If you still want to try look at something like litecoin [18:14] Cantide: Thanks [18:15] it's more for people who don't know about bitcoin [18:15] I assumed so [18:15] than for those looking for more technical / detailed information [18:15] anyhow, AFK time :p [18:15] bbl [18:15] Myself I still don't really understand some of the technical stuff. [18:15] bye! [18:15] I was also running folding@home so figured I'd dedicate the cpu to one task [18:16] but that also stopped. [18:16] kbmonkey: Why did you stop folding? [18:17] I travelled a bit and did not have a desktop [18:17] kbmonkey: ok [18:18] litecoin seems interesting [18:18] kbmonkey: I tried mining it on my phone and a VPS but I didn't make much. Only like 10 or so [18:19] If you try it make sure you are using a litecoin pool. And a litecoin wallet. [18:21] The best pools (imho) are proportional [18:24] fscking mosquitos [18:27] hey superfly fyi http://www.meegoexperts.com/2013/02/sailfish-os-jolla-sdk/ [18:28] still in dev right? [18:34] ooooo [18:37] Oh, our CEO's macbook air drowned, and while it is being repaired he is using Ubuntu... and he's fallen in love with Ubuntu. [18:38] oh that is good :) === Cantide is now known as CantideAFK [18:40] superfly, I found a very neat trick for python to simulate ternary expressions [18:41] kbmonkey: foo if bar else baf ? [18:41] foo = (false_result, true_result)[somevalue == 42] [18:41] pretty much [18:41] since True is 1, False is 0, you can use it as a tuple index [18:42] kbmonkey: the ternary operator in python is "a if b else c" [18:42] I got to try this... [18:42] aka: true_result if expression else false_result [18:43] so it is, thanks for that :) [18:44] before they introduced that, you used to have to do something like "expression and true_result or false_result" [18:44] kbmonkey: next time, just ask ;-) [18:44] I did not know they introduced that. I remember needing that a and b or c thing [18:44] ah [18:46] I saw this most horrendous code that tested if a point is within a recangle (pygame). meanwhile one can just use rect.collidepoint(position) [18:46] it looked like a stairway to heaven with all the else: blocks [19:01] heh [19:12] enjoy what's left of Monday all, I'm out. === ThatGraemeGuy_ is now known as ThatGraemeGuy [19:32] * ThatGraemeGuy waves [19:45] ohi ThatGraemeGuy [19:45] 'ello :) [19:45] deploy night? [19:45] no, i'm just slapping vmware around a bit :) [19:47] oh right [19:51] tumbleweed: I'm definitely coming to the Jam [19:51] \o/ [19:51]