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Oblivion1500hello, i was wondering how you add permissions to a user to edit a directory on the command line say the user is username@localhost and the dir is /example00:00
Guest69309Ok, if you want to be pedantic, yes applications do exist that won't work.  ARM?  But I doubt anyone seriously cares whether your favorite text editor for your days on VAX machines runs on the latest Ubuntu00:01
DmnchildAnyone know why if I changed the default port for SSH, that I can not access via the new port or old port? (I know i shouldn't be able to on old port) I get a could not resolve hostname <my ip>:<port>00:01
Dmnchildnodename nor servname provided, or not known00:01
Guest69309What 16-bit applications are you referring to that you would miss so badly?00:01
sonOfRaDmnchild, use ssh -p <port> hostname00:01
sonOfRadon't specify the port with the hostname00:01
DmnchildAh snaps. Much appreciated.00:03
relisherAny info on wether Ubuntu Phone will be able to install .deb files00:06
Atlantic777Oblivion1500: it's called access control list (ACL) in linux. Every file has permissions for owner, group and everyone. So you have to ensure that user is in the group to which the file belongs, and that the group has permissions to read/write/execute the file.00:06
Atlantic777Oblivion1500: so, chown user:group /path/to/file sets owner user and group. chmod xxx /path/to/file sets permissions. You can add a user to a group with gpasswd -a user00:06
Atlantic777those xxx are 3 numbers, each can have values 0-7, 4 - read, 2 - write, 1 - execute00:06
Atlantic777and they add, so 750 means that owner can read, write and execute, group to which the file belongs can read and execute that file and everyone other can do nothing with it.00:06
qubodup-ubunutuhi. i'm trying to find out what the currently loaded gfx driver is. I'm unable to determine whether it's the radeon/ati one or a backup one by looking at xorg logs:  http://ompldr.org/vaGt3NA/Xorg.0.log00:06
Atlantic777qubodup-ubunutu: glxinfo | grep -i render00:06
Atlantic777glxinfo is from mesa utils package, though...00:07
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Oblivion1500Atlantic777: can i just make up a group and would user be username or username@example and if i do the first option can i omit the xxx?00:08
jribOblivion1500: do keep in mind though that changing permissions/ownership to the wrong file can cause issues with your system00:08
Atlantic777Oblivion1500: usernames and groups have nothing to do with hostnames (the hostname is thing after @)00:08
qubodup-ubunutudirect rendering: Yes \ OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI R100 (RV200 5157) x86/MMX+/3DNow!+/SSE TCL DRI2 - not sure what that means but I would guess it says "the open source radeon/ati driver is running"00:08
Oblivion1500so i cant just do chown user:group /path/to/file, i have to do that other one aswell?00:12
Oblivion1500chown -R user:group /path/to/file00:13
NvveenCould someone please help me with this? Unity won't show any panels even though hw acceleration is working. .xsession-errors tells me compiz can't load unityshell. Anyone?00:13
Atlantic777Oblivion1500: I doon't understand. chown is for ownership, chmod is for permissions.00:13
Oblivion1500ok so i only have to use chown? i just need one user to access it00:14
NvveenIf noone can help me, can someone at least point me in the direction of an irc-channel with more experienced users?00:14
jribOblivion1500: what file is this?00:14
Oblivion1500its a /example.com and i just need my mysql admin to edit it00:15
jrib!permissions | Oblivion150000:15
ubottuOblivion1500: An explanation of what file permissions are and how they can be manipulated can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions00:15
Atlantic777Oblivion1500: then make sure that the user is owner, and that the last number in chmod xxx is 0.00:15
jribOblivion1500: Atlantic777 pretty much explained it already but there's some documentation on the wiki might want to read00:16
Oblivion1500ohhh, ok sorry just making myself look stupid, so root will still have access to this file though right?00:17
Atlantic777root has access to everything00:17
Atlantic777it's... root. :D00:18
Oblivion1500good good00:18
Oblivion1500thanks for you help!!!00:18
kmentatHey, quick question. How do I figure out what's thrashing my disk drives?00:19
jribkmentat: iotop00:19
kmentatI'm using LVM, but nothing is reading or writing to anything, yet there's disk access while the system idles.00:19
Bray90820_Anyone wanna help me get my touch screen working on my netbook00:20
Bray90820_it use to work on any version before 10.04.2 if i added usbhid.quirks=0x00eef:0x725e:0x4000:20
Bray90820_to my grub menu00:21
Bray90820_but now if i do that it dies after i close teh cover00:21
kmentat"kworker00:22
kmentat"lwprler00:22
kmentat"kworker"?00:22
Bray90820_sorry i ment 12.04.2 not 10.04.200:22
yourimym1hey tehre00:22
yourimym1there*00:22
g090Can I use a 32-bit virtual machine on a 64-bit Ubuntu? Or does it also have to be 64-bit?00:23
Blacklite_I'm here. willing to answer any questions.00:23
Blacklite_yes, you can use 32 bit.00:23
Blacklite_next.00:23
g090Great, thanks!00:23
HunterTHello, could someone please tell me why I am having so many problems with installing the guest addition video driver on Ubuntu 12.04 in the latest version of virtual box00:24
HunterTany links would be appreciated.00:24
yourimym1is there way to backup installed program , and get them back after fresh install , thing like aptoncd but get the apps00:24
Bray90820_Blacklite did you get the messages about my touch screen problem00:24
Blacklite_no.00:24
Jesus500:24
Blacklite_please elaborate00:24
Bray90820_it use to work on any version before 12.04.2 if i added usbhid.quirks=0x00eef:0x725e:0x40 to grub00:25
Bray90820_but now if i do that the touch screen dies after i close the cover00:25
yourimym1Blacklite_:  is there way to backup installed program , and get them back after fresh install , thing like aptoncd but get the apps00:25
HunterTBray what are you saying?00:26
kmentatOK, it looks like kworker is throwing a lot of IO processes and chewing up a lot of CPU00:26
HunterTso I should install a diff version00:26
Blacklite_kmentat: killall kworker00:26
kmentatBut kworker is a placeholder for kernel tasks.00:27
kmentatThat doesn't sound… good00:27
Blacklite_oh. well fuck.00:27
Blacklite_umm... recompile kernel?00:27
kmentatAt least it isn't LVM's mirroring00:27
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kmentatWell, you can't recompile what you haven't compiled in the first place, but I can always build my own anyway!00:28
Feelquilty / join #backtrack-fr00:28
kmentatT'isn't my first barbecue.00:28
nibbleryourimym1: you can get a list of installed packages via dpkg.... and use this later as input for apg-get install - can't remember the parameter for the first step right now00:28
MoPacSo, what is up with apportcheckresume in 12.10?  Every time I suspend, the computer restarts on resume and throws a KernelOops.  I've seen other people having the same issue: is suspend just broken in 12.10, or are there particular configurations that are working?00:28
Bray90820_i have a touch screen netbook the dell insperon duo running 12.04.2 and by default the touch screen doesn't work  but if i add usbhid.quirks=0x00eef:0x725e:0x40 as a boot flag then it works until i close the cover and reopen it00:29
nibblerMoPac: its working fine for me on 2 machines.00:29
Bray90820_then i get no input from the screen00:29
MoPacnibbler: Do you use LUKS?00:29
Blacklite_MoPac: alot of stuff is broken in 12.10 roll back to 12.0400:29
yourimym1nibbler: so what to google to get the steps ?00:29
nibblerMoPac: yes00:29
Bray90820_but it worked fine on 12.04.0 and earlier00:29
nibbleryourimym1: $ dpkg --get-selections00:30
Bray90820_yourimym1 that's for backing up your programs http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3508700:30
MoPacBlacklite_: Not worth rolling back just for this.  I'd rather fix it00:30
Blacklite_Bray90820_: did you look for your touchscreen's kernel drivers?00:30
Bray90820_what do you mean00:30
Bray90820_Blacklite_ what do you mean00:31
Blacklite_look for proprietary drivers for your touchscreen.00:31
MoPacAre there any people in here who are among those who have/had suspend problems in 12.10?00:31
Blacklite_Bray90820_: look for proprietary drivers for your touchscreen.00:32
Bray90820_Blacklite_ under additional drivers?00:32
nibblerBray90820_: what happens if you close/reopen the lid?00:32
Blacklite_yes.00:32
linuxuz3r_MoPac i have suspend problems with 12.0400:33
Blacklite_yes under additional drivers.00:33
Bray90820_the touch screen fails to work00:33
Bray90820_Blacklite_ there are none00:33
nibblerBray90820_: did you try to reload the module? like rmmod foo, modprobe foo00:33
MoPaclinuxuz3r_: Do you get a reboot and a KernelOops message when you try to resume?00:33
Bray90820_nibbler what do you mean00:33
Blacklite_Bray90820_: look for generic touchscreen drivers.00:34
linuxuz3r_i don't get anything when i try to wake00:34
Bray90820_i have it working partly after i add usbhid.quirks=0x00eef:0x725e:0x40" as a boot flag00:34
Blacklite_linuxuz3r_: did you try pressing the power button?00:34
nibblerBray90820_: it certainly is some sort of driver. drivers in linux are usually kernel modules. the list of loaded modules can be seen by "lsmod" - if you unload a module "rmmod" and load it again "modprobe" you reinitialise the driver00:34
cobra-the-jokerHey guys ... i am trying to install ubuntu from a USB ... but when i choose language + continue on the third party page ... it hangs !00:34
Bray90820_but after i close and open the lid it dies00:34
linuxuz3r_MoPac to wake up yes00:34
[Mod]JordanI am in need of desperate help00:34
MoPacFor me, the suspend-resume fails no matter what button I press to resume00:35
nibblerBray90820_: but its not always working, as unloading of drivers that are in use is not possible e.g.00:35
MoPacIt just goes to boot/BIOS00:35
Blacklite_cobra-the-joker: check your disc's integrity.00:35
linuxuz3r_oh00:35
[Mod]JordanSomeone?00:35
Bray90820_nibbler im sorry but i still don't understand00:35
nibbler[Mod]Jordan: you'd have to ask a specific question to give anyone the chance of helping00:35
cobra-the-jokerBlacklite_, i checked it  ... it's correct00:36
Blacklite_yeah.00:36
yourimym1nibbler: what to do after dpkg --get-selections00:36
yourimym1as i want to back up all displayed from dpkg --get-selections00:36
[Mod]JordanOK so I'm running open suse and want to switch to Ubuntu I have recovery partition and bios and don't want to lose them00:36
Blacklite_what's you'r problem, jordan?00:36
Blacklite_you're*00:36
nibbleryourimym1: dpkg --get-selections | awk '{print $1}' > $HOME/installed-packages.txt00:36
nibbler[Mod]Jordan: then... tell the installer not to touch them.00:37
Blacklite_cobra-the-joker: what are your processor and video card?00:37
[Mod]JordanHow?00:37
[Mod]JordanI need instructions00:37
cobra-the-jokerBlacklite_, it seems that i found a solution http://askubuntu.com/questions/204771/ubuntu-12-10-installation-hangs-at-preparing-to-install-ubuntu00:37
nibbler[Mod]Jordan: the installer is self explaining. don't tell it to use the partitions/whole disk, just do it manually.00:37
kirk601anyone have a recommendation on the safest/fastest vpn service that works with ubuntu?00:37
nibblerkirk601: tor. for sure the safest. talking about fast might make you want to sacrifice some security ;-)00:38
yourimym1nibbler: how to get them then in package ?00:38
nibbleryourimym1: cat $HOME/installed-packages.txt | xargs apt-get install - this will reinstall the packages, but it will redownload them etc.00:39
Blacklite_ubuntu makes me a sad penguin.00:39
cobra-the-jokerBlacklite_, what you use then ?00:39
kirk601nibbler, i have tor installed but i've yet to try it out. does it cover the entire connection? or just a special browser or something00:39
kirk601nibbler, thx btw :)00:40
Blacklite_cobra-the-joker: slackware.00:40
nibblerkirk601: you can route everything via tor, but you need to take care00:40
kirk601nibbler, i was thinking about paying for one of the advertised ones00:40
Blacklite_don't.00:40
kirk601nibbler, well, on my phone it gave me the option to 'bootstrap' the entire connection or only provide saftey thru the included browser00:41
yourimym1nibbler: where the file saved cant find it00:41
kirk601nibbler, its the complexity of setting it up that i worry about, dont want to get anything wrong00:41
nibblerkirk601: check the tails live-cd.... maybe its the best option....00:41
linuxuz3r_what is a vpn?00:42
[Mod]JordanVirtual private network00:42
linuxuz3r_virtual private network?00:42
Blacklite_virtual private network00:42
linuxuz3r_what does it do?00:42
Blacklite_anonymizer00:42
[Mod]JordanRoutes traffic from your  to another one00:43
linuxuz3r_routes traffic from server to client?00:43
yourimym1i want to use this but only for my system files (tar -cvpzf backup.tar.gz --exclude=/backup.tar.gz --exclude=/proc --exclude=/lost+found --exclude=/sys --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/media --exclude=/dev / )00:43
yourimym1what parameters to correct for selecting only system and installed ?00:44
[Mod]JordanSo which should I pick in the install if I want to keep recovery and bios partitions?00:45
[Mod]JordanHello?00:46
yourimym1so any help ?00:46
[Mod]JordanI need help :)00:46
yourimym1i want to ((tar -cvpzf backup.tar.gz --exclude=/backup.tar.gz --exclude=/proc --exclude=/lost+found --exclude=/sys --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/media --exclude=/dev / ))00:47
yourimym1but only for system and installed application , so is the command right ?00:47
[Mod]JordanCan anyone please help me! :)00:47
linuxuz3r_what hd partition do you have00:48
linuxuz3r_and where is your bios installed?00:48
[Mod]JordanToshiba00:48
[Mod]JordanOn a partition00:48
[Mod]JordanWith recovery00:48
linuxuz3r_brb got to go00:49
[Mod]JordanAnyone else?00:49
kirk601another question. i'm running a ide hdd and want to move to a ssd sata drive. is there an easy way to copy my current operating system from the old ide to the new sata drive?00:49
kirk601i can't ghost it becauset the ssd is smaller than the old hdd00:49
Pici[Mod]Jordan: Why can't you just use the Ubuntu Cd to install? Have you tried that?00:50
kirk601because i have everything set up the way i like it i dont want to start over00:50
kirk601Pici00:50
Pici?00:50
kirk601Pici: christ, nevermind. i thought that was for me :P00:50
* kirk601 kicks self00:50
[Mod]JordanPici I am doing that but I don't want it to touch my recovery and bios partitions but wipe out open suse00:50
Pici[Mod]Jordan: During the install it will ask if you want to do advanced partitioning, make sure you choose the right partition to install on.00:51
DannoFXHello00:52
yourimym1anyone me /?00:54
COLORSHello. Does anyone need help>?00:56
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yourimym1me :S00:56
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johndoe333hi00:56
COLORSyourimym1: What's wrong?00:56
johndoe333i have a problem.00:56
yourimym1COLORS: i want to ((tar -cvpzf backup.tar.gz --exclude=/backup.tar.gz --exclude=/proc --exclude=/lost+found --exclude=/sys --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/media --exclude=/dev / )) but only for system and installed application , so is the command right ?00:57
yourimym1not the whole HD00:57
johndoe333when i go to update ubuntu it attempts to update and then says "not enough free space on disc/boot"00:57
yourimym1hard-disk i mean00:57
johndoe333am i able to load up gparted and just change the size of the boot directory?00:57
COLORSyourimym1: As far as I can see, yes.00:57
johndoe333or would that corrupt all my files. i use LVM encryption on my HD too.00:58
Bray90820_i'm trying to install etouch but it is asking me to select an interface RS232, USB, PS200:58
quantI want to write a little bash program, that test, if a site on the web is available. However it should only return not available if 404 was returned00:58
johndoe333boot partition, rather00:58
quantI tried $q=$(wget --spider $url)00:58
COLORSjohndoe333: Yes, you should be able to use GParted for that :P00:58
quant(echo $l) | g=(grep -q -e "404")00:58
quantif [ "$g" -eq 0 ]00:58
yourimym1COLORS: so that command for packing only file system parition  not the whole hard drive ?!00:59
johndoe333thanks for responding, COLORS. however, will changing the /boot partition with gparted screw up my data?00:59
kirk601COLORS: im buying a new hard drive that is smaller than the one i'm using. i want to duplicate my install of ubuntu onto the new drive including my home folder and settings. but not the hundreds of gigs of misc data on the drive. is there a way you would work on tackling that?00:59
quanthowever it doesn't work00:59
Bray90820_anyone know which interface to choose00:59
johndoe333my ubuntu has LVM encrypted partition, i dont want to bugger it up00:59
COLORSyourimym1: Yes that will only pack FS, wherever you point it to.00:59
COLORSjohndoe333: It shouldn't, but always practice caution when resizing pertitiions.01:00
johndoe333i mean, if i increase the size of my "/boot" partition to accommodate this update, wont that mean i have to decrease the size of my other partitions?01:00
johndoe333and given that my partitions are LVM partitioned, wont that potentially cause some problems01:01
johndoe333i guess i'm just asking the same quesiton over and over, you're saying i should be able to do it but that i should be cautious and backup before i do. correct?01:01
yourimym1COLORS: so after i've did this *.tar file , and want to restore it again in freshly installed ubuntu it gets my sett and installed application back , so what is the simple steps to do this after installing ?01:01
COLORSkirk601: You should never directly copy a Ubuntu installation, you will need to reinstall on that HD and then copy your data over.01:01
SusTaLyAmq,01:02
johndoe333it annoys me that i have to do this, why do i need to change my boot partition for an update anyway, i haven't changed any settings or done anything out of the ordinary lately01:02
Bray90820_which interface controller would a netbook use01:02
Bray90820_RS232, USB, PS201:02
kirk601COLORS: no you were supposed to say 'sure! just install x and y packages and you're off! ugh... thx tho, i understand what you mean nowthat i think about it01:02
kirk601COLORS: i hate computers sometimes01:02
johndoe333OK i guess thats the answer, thanks COLORS01:02
kirk601but i <3 u guys01:02
kirk601yes thanks COLORS!01:02
Guest8276can anyone please help me? ZNC says the changes have been done, but the config not written01:03
COLORSyourimym1: After you re-install, do tar -zxvf backup.tar.gz01:03
Guest8276please01:03
COLORSkirk601 No problem :P01:03
yourimym1COLORS: sudo before or something , cuz am nebiw01:03
COLORSyourimym: Yes, if you are doing system backups please use sudo.01:04
COLORSyourimym1: HOWEVER before you proceed with your manual method I reccommed taking a look at the many great Backup apps Ubuntu runs01:04
yourimym1COLORS: full command to restore( sudo tar -zxvf backup.tar.gz)01:04
yourimym1COLORS: is there a gui for packing all my installed program i need thing like aptoncd , but i can'y use it cuz i've used apt-get cleanall01:06
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kmentatBray90820_, a netbook likely would use USB since I highly doubt it has any serial ports or dedicated keyboards or mouse ports.01:06
Ruben2please help me01:06
COLORS!info deka-dup01:06
ubottuPackage deka-dup does not exist in quantal01:07
COLORS!info deja-dup01:07
ubottudeja-dup (source: deja-dup): Back up your files. In component main, is optional. Version 24.0-0ubuntu2 (quantal), package size 361 kB, installed size 2792 kB01:07
Ruben2I cannot write my ZNC config file. Please help01:07
Bray90820_kmentat it's asking which teh screen is connected to i think01:07
kmentatRuben2, what is your problem?01:07
COLORSyourimym: I reccommend Deja-Dup01:07
Bray90820_because it is asking that while i am installing etouch to get my touchscreen working01:07
Ruben2kmentat,01:07
kmentatBray90820_, Oh, that'd be something different. Which interface are they asking about? Driving the display panel or the touch sensor?01:08
Ruben2I use Cygwin and ZNC. I try to add servers to it through web interface, but the config wont be saved. Some bug or its write protected. im not sure01:08
yourimym1COLORS: one more stupid ques if u may ,01:08
Bray90820_the touch sensor i think01:08
kmentatRuben2, ahh. ZNC is out of my field of expertise.01:08
Bray90820_im not really sure tho01:09
COLORSyourimym: Sure, ask away!01:09
Ruben2ok, kmentat can u take a shot in the dark?01:09
kmentatBray90820_, it will either be some kind of internal PCI interface (unlikely) or an internal USB bus. try and lspci and see what's there.01:09
SusTaLyFuck :)01:10
kmentatRuben2, first you need to find a chicken. Cut its head off, and from the would sprinkle the chicken blood all over your server while chanting.01:10
kmentats/would/wound01:10
COLORSSusTaLy: Please keep appropriate here01:10
SusTaLyok ok01:10
yourimym1COLORS: if i choosed from deja pup file system partion to backup01:10
yourimym1then install the OS again and use it to restore from file that i've created , that get my installed applications again01:10
COLORSyourimym1: Yes, that's right.01:11
robertzaccourhow do I install the easypeasy desktop in Ubuntu?01:11
Bray90820_kmentat i don't even know what i am looking for when i type lspci01:12
kirk601how bout this does anyone know how to make irssi not show joins/quits/kicks/etc?01:12
kmentatBray90820_, drop the output into a pastebin, it might be somewhat obvious.01:12
Bray90820_kmentat i'll just pastebin the output01:12
Bray90820_ya lol01:12
kmentatBray90820_, I'd also google for your model of machine with the words "touch" and "interface" or "chipset"01:13
Bray90820_kmentat i tried that01:13
Bray90820_nothing much01:13
kmentatBray90820_, what IS this machine?01:13
Bray90820_dell insperon duo01:13
COLORSHello. Does anyone need help>?01:14
Bray90820_kmentat http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=Ma7iyhJy01:15
kmentatBray90820_, does this help? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=165449901:15
Bray90820_kmentat it does not01:15
Bray90820_because everything was working fine before 12.04.201:15
yourimym1COLORS: thx alot , i wonder does it will need permession while restoring file system01:15
kmentatBray90820_, try lsusb01:15
Blacklite_try cat /proc/cpuinfo01:16
robertzaccourhow do I install the easypeasy desktop in Ubuntu?01:16
COLORSyourimym1: Yes, when it restore it will prompt you for a password.01:16
yourimym1COLORS: merci merci merci :)01:17
kmentatrobertzaccour, that looks like Unity, right? Just install Unity.01:18
robertzaccourkmentat: its not unity01:18
COLORSyourimym1: No problem! :P01:18
COLORSAhh I have to go, bye all01:18
Bray90820_kmentat http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=Vc5k5sQs01:19
kmentatrobertzaccour, It certainly looks like Unity in the screenshots on their website. But unless you can figure out what window manager they're using, I doubt you'll make any progress.01:20
kmentatBray90820_, there it is! Bus 004 Device 002: ID 0eef:725e D-WAV Scientific Co., Ltd01:21
kmentatBray90820_, https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=104824201:21
mib_mibhi guys, i put some 'export SOMEVAR=/home/me/somedir' in my ~/.profile but when i open a new terminal window and do echo $SOMEVAR its not taking properly, what could be wrong?01:22
jamesgcdmib_mib - it sounds simple, but have you logged in and out again yet? That file to my knowledge is only read once per session01:23
mib_mibjamesgcd: i haven't yet - i thought the .profile was reloaded with every new terminal01:23
mib_mibjamesgcd: will do01:24
jamesgcdmib_mib tell us how it goes afterwards then ;)01:24
kmentatIt's the -j(number) flag I should use in make to run on multiple processing cores, right?01:24
kmentatJust wanted to double-check that01:24
bonhoefferanyone know how to mount my hfs + usb drive to my ubuntu machine01:26
Bray90820_kmentat so your saying it's usb?01:26
bonhoefferwith read/write01:26
escottbonhoeffer, disable journaling01:27
ZiberFor a cronjob, "0 0 * * 0 /path/to/command" would run weekly, right?01:27
bonhoefferescott, thanks .. . disk manager the best way to do that?01:30
bonhoefferescott, what is journaling anyway?01:30
escottbonhoeffer, something you probably shouldnt turn off01:30
escottbonhoeffer, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journaling_file_system01:31
OerHeksZiber, yes, on Sunday > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto01:31
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bonhoefferescott, thanks01:32
PadNet_201how do I run a command when terminal loads?01:32
escottPadNet_201, add it to ~/.bashrc01:32
PadNet_201escott where at the end?01:34
pxcOn other distros, Pulseaudio's maximum volume is determined by the volume of whichever application is currently loudest. Here on Ubuntu, it seems to be set independently. How can I revert to the default behavior?01:34
mediacontestNew #website #design #logo #freelancer #contest on http://www.mediacontest.it  - design for a wedding planner. 1# Prize 600,00 €01:38
escottPadNet_201, sure wherever you would like01:38
pxcnvm. found it by searching for people looking to make the opposite change due to an old weirdness with VLC. For the record, it's called ‘flat volumes’01:38
pxcin pulseaudio, flat volume means the system maximum is dependent on the loudest open output stream01:39
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Ziberthanks01:40
jrdn_12.4 vs 12.10: Is anyone else having issues with dpkg not finding dependant libraries right away? I keep getting apt-get corruptions and have to continuesly reconfigure dpkg and update / reinstall apt-get01:42
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joshumaxhey, what's up with canonical's git server randomly hanging up?01:47
joshumaxhmm, no ones chatting?01:49
raginronaldepaulhello?01:50
kmentatjoshumax, raginronaldepaul, shh, the Oscars are on01:51
joshumaxk01:51
raginronaldepaullol srry01:51
joshumaxwhaa?01:51
joshumaxwho has my ip?01:51
joshumaxguest38345 how?01:51
raginronaldepaul24-18-22-124.hsd1.wa.comcast.net01:52
raginronaldepaulits cuz it logs ur ip when u sign up01:52
joshumaxyes01:52
joshumaxoh wait my friend was on irc01:52
aetaric_sign up?01:52
aetaric_>.>01:52
raginronaldepaullog on to the chatroom01:52
aetaric_that's not signing up...01:53
raginronaldepaullol whats the difference>01:53
raginronaldepaul?01:53
joshumaxits just a difference in wording01:53
joshumaxthe meaning is the same01:54
joshumaxi think01:54
aetaric_"signing up" is a term used when filling out a form, typically for a website.01:54
raginronaldepaullol it is01:54
aetaric_also this channel is for ubuntu-related support01:54
joshumaxHey, what happened to all the people who asked dumb questions on this channel?01:54
joshumaxyes01:54
raginronaldepaulbut did you not have to fill out a form (albeit small) to get on this irc?01:55
mdhthere are no dumb questions01:55
aetaric_if you want to be off topic please join #ubuntu-offtopic01:55
raginronaldepaullol srry01:55
joshumaxso, I actally have a support question?01:55
kmentatSí.01:55
aetaric_about ubuntu?01:56
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joshumaxis it just me or is ubuntu's git servers a bit overloaded?01:56
OY1Rhow do i make 12.04 feel like Ubuntu ?01:56
OY1Rhow do i make 12.04 use gnome ?01:56
aetaric_OY1R, there are repos to install gnome3, but they break somethings iirc01:57
aetaric_joshumax, not sure about the git servers as i don't use them01:57
joshumaxhmm, it might just be the volume of people accesing them right now01:58
joshumaxok, thank you01:58
OY1Rso it's either the lame interface or a 'borken' distro.01:58
joshumaxyou could install xfce01:58
aetaric_OY1R, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1952291 the second thing on google.01:59
mdhOY1R: you can use any desktop environment pretty much, just might take a bit of work to get it the way you want02:00
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joshumaxexactly mdh, it may take a bit to configure but then again whats a reward without work? hehe02:00
rainsthank u02:01
mdhOY1R: you might want to try mate desktop if you like gnome202:01
joshumaxor you could try gnome-fallback02:02
pratoseHow do I install nvidia 304.64 driver on 12.04 ? Please help.02:04
joshumaxpratose, first stop gdm, switch to another tty, and run the installer as root02:04
joshumaxoh wait lightdm not gdm02:05
yourimym1any ine using deja dup ?02:06
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excervohello guys can someone help me with my remote connection I'm using 12.402:06
joshumaxwhats wrong with the ramote connection?02:07
pratoseI'm trying to install manually.02:07
joshumaxtrying to install the drivers manually?02:08
pratoseyes02:09
joshumaxokay, so download them from nvidia's site02:09
joshumaxthen kill lightdm02:09
pratosealready downloaded. command to kill display manager?02:10
joshumaxokay, you might want to save your work..02:10
joshumaxsudo service stop lightdm02:11
excervoHello guys, any luck installing pc anywhere under ubuntu 12.10?02:11
joshumaxthe cd (wherever drivers were downloaded to)02:11
joshumax*then02:11
pratosedriver is in download folder, i need to burn it?02:12
joshumaxand finally run sudo ./NVIDIA*02:12
joshumaxno02:12
joshumaxjust execute it without a display manager02:12
joshumaxidk if it will work in gui mode but mine said you need to stop x02:13
xkf815hello?02:17
joshumaxhi02:17
xkf815~.~02:17
pratosehey josh, do you know where i can find readable instructions?02:17
joshumaxinstructions for what?02:18
pratoseintalling drivers02:18
joshumaxi can do a quick search for it02:18
joshumaxif i cant find anything you could check stackoverflow02:18
pratosecool02:19
joshumaxtry this: http://www.noobslab.com/2012/10/install-latest-nvidia-drivers-in-ubuntu.html02:19
joshumaxI'd give you step by step instructions pratose but I use debain which is a bit different lol02:20
iFlipDoes anyone know if there is a way to setup Ubuntu LAMP 10.04 with a TV tuner server ability?02:22
excervohello guys, can som1 advise me which remote tools are best I 'm using 12.1002:22
joshumaxwhat is a tv tuner server?02:22
joshumaxjoshumax is now AFK02:23
iFlipThe TV stations that are broadcasted over the air - create a server program to allow clients to watch the live TV braodcast02:23
MonotokoiFlip, through the browser?02:24
Monotokoyou might be able to do with a VLC stream02:24
iFlipEssentially a media server that would allow my iPads, TV, or whatever to access the server and watch the TV staions that came into the server02:24
joshumaxoh i see02:25
iFlipI have an antenna but I want something more reliable02:25
iFlipIPTV I suppose02:25
joshumaxu try MythBuntu?02:26
keyshello02:26
joshumaxhi02:26
keyshas anyone used ubuntu for phones os yet02:26
joshumaxyes02:26
iFlipI saw mythtv but that looked like a DVR of some sort maybe I didn't read enough02:26
Monotokokeys, I have.. it's not brilliant yet, certainly not useful for everyday stuff02:26
joshumaxits exactly what you want i think02:26
iFlipkeys - asterisk works great02:27
joshumaxand the ubuntu for phones git server keeps crashing02:27
keysim looking into buying an android phone for use it on02:27
Monotokokeys, Nexus 402:27
keysim not worried about it being great right now that will come in time02:27
joshumaxu might want to wait, its more of a POC than anything02:27
iFlipkeys - scratch what I said wrong topic02:27
keyswhats the min ram requirements02:28
joshumax1gb slim mode02:28
Monotokouhm... I'm not sure, I know it's available for the N4 though, and it's a great phone (and quite cheap for its specs)02:28
mdhhave they even got a terminal for ubuntu phone yet?02:29
joshumaxive seen some ports for the s3 though too, and actually right now im porting it to the d2tmo lol02:29
joshumaxyes02:29
keyscould it run on the agm rock / cat b10 phone02:29
Monotokojoshumax, are you sure?02:29
joshumaxyes02:29
MonotokoI had to login via SSH02:29
joshumaxhmm?02:29
joshumaxodd..02:30
MonotokoI tried it on the day it came out... there was no terminal on it, you had to login through SSH02:30
Monotokowhich was only a few days ago02:30
mdhfor some reason i thought that was really suprising that there was no local terminal, would have thought that would be one of the first things to have lol02:30
joshumaxi dont know02:30
joshumaxthe code i just checked out has gnome-terminal.desktop02:31
Monotokomdh, I think it needed longer... I don't know why they hyped it up so much considering it clearly isn't finished02:31
Monotokoit's a platform for developers, that's it02:31
genii-around!phone02:31
ubottuInformation about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch02:31
joshumaxyes just give it time02:31
mdhslow night here02:31
joshumaxyeah it is a slow night on this channel02:33
dakotawulfynot too much going on02:34
XSevenXCan anyone help me understand what to do in this guide?02:35
joshumaxwhat guide?02:36
XSevenXI'm trying to get a Windows program to run properly on Ubuntu through Wine, but every guide I find has a standard set where the reader would have to have familiarity with Wine and/or Ubuntu/Linux02:36
XSevenXand I have no clue how to use either02:36
XSevenXhttp://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=1914102:36
joshumaxwell then welcome to GNULinux :)02:36
joshumaxill read it..02:36
XSevenXThis guide for running League of Legends02:36
XSevenXIt seemed straightforward, and then it gets into a script02:37
XSevenXI don't even understand: where this script is that I just downloaded, how to use this script, how to use wine, how to use Linux02:37
XSevenXI also don't understand anything about the script, and I don't really want to learn about it, I just want this game to work, because the entire reason I built this system was to play games and watch videos online02:37
joshumaxokay.. lets step through this slowly02:37
mdhXSevenX: why didn't you just install windows?02:38
maitakelol02:38
XSevenXbecause I can't afford it02:38
XSevenXI don't have $300 for a copy of Windows XP02:38
joshumaxwell did you try zorinOS?02:38
XSevenXno02:38
dakotawulfyXSevenX: it will get easier after u use it for a while02:38
joshumaxits for ppl migrating from windows to linux02:38
XSevenXI've spent the past week trying to figure out how to use this OS02:38
maitakeXSevenX: it gets easier with time02:39
joshumaxokay, well 1st think to know about linux, say goodbye to shiny interfaces02:39
joshumaxokay, so open terminal (ctrl-shift-t)02:39
XSevenXI've got it open02:39
joshumaxokay, so now all u have to do is put in this script02:40
XSevenXI'm running on Ubuntu 12.10 86_64x I believe02:40
XSevenXor 86x_64 I can't remember where the x goes02:40
XSevenXeither way it's 64-bit02:40
joshumaxok02:40
XSevenXI mean I can't even figure out how to update java on this shit02:41
joshumaxwell see the "#" remove that where it says $WINE /path_to/LoL_installer...02:41
joshumaxokay just calm down, linux can be scary to new users02:41
thejakenixonhey guys!02:41
joshumaxheyy02:42
thejakenixonhow is everybody02:42
joshumaxgood, we have a new linux user here!02:42
XSevenXjoshu I don't even know where the script is02:42
thejakenixonhaha that's me02:42
mdhDoes Ubuntu provide java? or just openjdk?02:42
joshumaxokay nvm try this02:42
thejakenixonhailing on all frequencies from 12.1002:42
XSevenXI downloaded it, but now I don't know where the common directory is02:42
joshumaxforget that02:42
thejakenixonanybody on here happen to be on a lenovo laptop?02:43
joshumaxum you know how to use apt?02:43
joshumaxim not on one02:43
XSevenXthe last time I tried to download without using the terminal for sudo apt-get etc., my Ubuntu got an internal error, and had to shut down02:43
joshumaxXsevenX: do you know how to use apt?02:43
joshumaxwha??02:43
XSevenXI went to..02:44
thejakenixonI'm trying to invert two-finger touchpad scrolling to go with the direction of scrolling, not against it. is this possible?02:44
XSevenXusr/bin/apt.something02:44
XSevenXas the application for a .apt file02:44
XSevenXand that caused an internal error02:44
joshumaxum, well idk what that is02:44
joshumaxapt is just a nify tool to download filkes from ubuntu's servers02:44
XSevenXusr/bin/apt-key02:45
joshumaxso just run apt-get install wine02:45
mdhapt is one of the best features of a debian-based system, it'll make your live so much easier02:45
joshumaxmdh: so true02:45
XSevenXI have Wine02:45
joshumaxok02:45
XSevenXand Winetricks02:45
XSevenXand Play on Linux02:45
joshumaxwell ignore the guide and right click the exe and open Legue of Legends in wine.02:46
thejakenixonanybody here know anything about what I'm asking? inverting touchpad scroll?02:46
joshumaxno sorry02:46
joshumaxthat should work XSevenX02:46
thejakenixonalrighty well thanks anyways guys.02:47
XSevenXnothing's happening02:47
joshumaxhmm02:47
XSevenXit sounded like my CPU was "working", and then it stopped02:47
joshumaxright click the exe and check permissions02:47
brightsparkthejakenixon: try https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Touchpad_Synaptics#Natural_Scrolling02:47
joshumaxsee if "allow executing file as a program" is unchecked02:48
XSevenXr/w, r/w, r-o02:48
joshumaxif it is, check it02:48
XSevenXoh okay02:48
XSevenXthat was unchecked02:48
mdhXSevenX: was it a kernel panic or something? did it drop you to a console and display some error message?02:48
XSevenXmdh it just said there was an internal error or something, and kept saying it over and over02:49
XSevenXso I shut down02:49
XSevenXit didn't specifically tell me I needed to, but I figured that would fix it02:49
XSevenXand it did afaik02:49
joshumaxdid it say it attempted to kill init?02:49
XSevenXI can't remember02:49
XSevenXit was 2 days ago02:49
joshumaxoh ok02:49
XSevenXI have been trying to get this OS to work for over a week02:49
XSevenXand the more I work on it02:49
XSevenXthe less patience I have with it02:50
joshumaxhmm02:50
intraderGood afternoon all - For some time my laptop has been overheating and shutting down (Lenovo t61p with Linux 12.10). I run Psensors (temp2 goes over 97C) and laptop shuts down. Problem showed up recently after an auto-update. by Update Manager. Application I am running is a is firefox with any video clip (specially in full screen mode). Problem does not show up in Windows XP and FIrefox on same clip.02:50
XSevenXevery time I figure something out, I have to learn something else to learn something else to learn something else, to fix something else02:50
joshumaxim afraid linux isnt really for windows gaming02:50
joshumaxor general users XD02:50
XSevenXanyways the guide I linked you is in place because LoL doesn't normally run on Wine02:50
XSevenXand requires some workarounds to function02:50
joshumaxhmm02:50
aetaric_joshumax, well, Steam is now on linux... SO02:51
XSevenXI have at least found the script that I downloaded for the guide02:51
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[Mod]JordanHello02:51
dr_willisafter fighting with some windows games on window.. i almost think windows isent for windows gameing...02:51
mdhsteam on linux is still linux gaming, not trying to run windows games through wine (or at least running it through some tested config of wine or something)02:51
aetaric_true02:52
dr_willisbe nice if steam had a wine option. i know quite a few of my games can work on steam in wine02:52
[Mod]JordanI have open suse and need to install Ubuntu open suse is on /Dev/sda5 so do I set the mounting point / and ext4 journaled?02:52
XSevenXI have been playing Counter-Strike: Source, but that gets pretty old very fast02:52
joshumaxwell the patch seems pretty optional to me02:52
dr_willis[Mod]Jordan:  if you want to erase the opensuse, you set / to be mounted where your suse partion was at.02:52
dr_willisext4 is the standard fs to use.02:53
[Mod]JordanAnd format?02:53
joshumaxXsevenX: try rinning wine from the terminal and see if u gat an error?02:53
dr_willisand be sure it formats.. that should also be the default02:53
XSevenXhow do I run it from the terminal02:53
[Mod]JordanDr_Willis: so check format this partition?02:53
AirCombathi everyone, just have a quick question. is it possible, and what are the commands to convert my ubuntu 12.10 Unity/Gnome to LXDE? Can I just install the LXDE package and then select that as my default session?02:54
dr_willis[Mod]Jordan:  yes - that should allready be checked normally02:54
djBusshey guys I tried to install php5 but the default through apt-get was 5.4, then I used a script to downgrade it to 5.3. Now I would like to install PEAR but i can't because it says the PHP 5.4 is needed02:54
[Mod]JordanIt isnt02:54
mdhwine myprogram.exe02:54
dr_willisAirCombat:  install lubuntu-desktop package is what i do02:54
joshumaxwhat mdh said02:54
djBussis there any way for me to select the php5.3 PEAR package in apt-get?02:54
intraderAbout the list commands - how do I determine if the topic has been answered?02:54
XSevenXwine cannot find C:/Windows/system32/myprogram.exe02:55
AirCombatdr_willis: and after I apt-get that package, what additional steps do I need to take?02:55
XSevenXC:\\windows\\system32\\myprogram.exe*02:55
dr_willisAirCombat:  logout, select lxde/lubuntu at the login screen.. login02:55
[Mod]JordanAnd Dr_Willis can I just leave /home and swap and my files will still be there?02:55
dr_willisXSevenX:  cd to where the game is at02:55
joshumaxmdh, can u help XsevenX for a sec, om going afk.02:56
mdhXSevenX: myprogram.exe is just an example, you need to run the league of legends exe02:56
dr_willis[Mod]Jordan:  IF your /home/ is on its own partition yes. Youmay need to fix the ownership of the files in home.02:56
mdhjoshumax: ok02:56
TynachPlease help, I don't know what to do. I was messing around with DNS servers, and whimsically switched to 127.0.0.1. Of course that doesn't work. Now I've tried switching it back to my normal DNS servers, but it won't!02:56
XSevenXokay I don't think I have a partition made for Windows02:56
XSevenXand I assume that I need that for Wine to function right?02:56
dr_willisTynach:  0n 12.10    the default dns server is 127.0.0.1 i belive02:56
TynachIt shows in graphical NM settings the right DNS servers, and using nmcli I can see the right DNS server listed, but /etc/resolv.conf shows 127.0.0.1 still and DNS itself is not working.02:56
TynachI'm on 12.04.02:57
TynachI'm having to tether to my phone to get on IRC.02:57
mdhXSevenX: you don't need a separate partition, wine creates it's own windows "file system" under your home folder .wine02:57
mdhXSevenX: do you have league of legends installed?02:57
dr_willisTynach:  you could edit the resolv.conf by hand.. you may need to restart networking for nm to change the file02:58
joshumaxback what'd i miss02:58
XSevenX_disconnected or something02:58
[Mod]JordanDr_Willis: I.imgur.com/ZmaFZt3.png02:59
TynachHere's the thing. DNS starts working just fine if I use DHCP, so obviously it's being set somewhere. But I have a specific IP address set (I don't control the router; can't set it router-side) and then things go south.02:59
TynachI'll try that though.. Just to see.02:59
bigbadbenI have two hard drives in my computer if I wanted to access one via the command line how would I do that?02:59
joshumaxhey XSevenX i found this!: http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=97337303:00
[Mod]JordanDr_Willis: http://i.imgur.com/ZMaFZt3.png03:00
dr_willisbigbadben:  mount it somewhere.. use the normal bash commands, cd, ls , whatever.. to access it03:00
dr_willis!bash | bigbadben03:00
ubottubigbadben: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome), K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE), or Menu -> Accessories -> LXTerminal (LXDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal03:00
XSevenX_I've seen all that stuff joshu03:00
XSevenX_the problem is I don't want to learn any of this03:00
XSevenX_I'm getting to my wit's end03:00
maitakethen you're probably going to.. have a hard time tbh03:00
[Mod]JordanDr_Willis?03:00
bigbadbenWhat if it is already mounted?03:01
joshumaxif you dont want to learn any of this than my advice is pay for windows03:01
dr_willis[Mod]Jordan: ?\03:01
XSevenX_I'm tired of having to learn more shit everytime I want to do anything on this os03:01
XSevenX_I have yet to enjoy my brand new PC at all03:01
dr_willisXSevenX_:  so you want us to tell you to give up?03:01
joshumaxhmm, try zorin OS03:01
joshumaxits free and it should be a good experience for you03:01
[Mod]Jordandr_willis: Here are my partitions are the home and swap fine? Does anything need changed http://i.imgur.com/ZMaFZt3.png03:01
XSevenX_it doesn't matter what you tell me03:01
joshumaxI'm just offering a new distro meant for windows users03:02
dakotawulfyXSevenX unity not the easiest os to use03:02
dr_willis[Mod]Jordan:  i dont know what the other partions are. you could mount the otheres whever you want so you can access them03:02
Tynachdr_willis, it says "$ sudo service networking start<newline>networking stop/waiting"03:02
TynachAnd does not work.03:02
jasonmceI've got a 12.04 kubuntu desktop install that I want to move to a laptop.  Is there a known way to just clonezilla to a laptop drive and replace the hardware drivers, or am I just asking for years of configuration problems?03:02
TynachDNS still won't work.03:02
dr_willisTynach:  try to tell it to 'restart' not start03:02
AirCombatsorry, I got disconnected. did my question get answered dr_willis ?03:03
dakotawulfyXSevenX u might want to try zorin os03:03
Tynachdr_willis, same thing.03:03
XSevenX_why do people even use this OS03:03
dr_willisAirCombat:  i dont even rember the question.03:03
joshumaxwell most of us arent gamers03:03
XSevenX_the only thing I've ever used a PC for is for gaming and entertainmment03:03
AirCombat:P after I install the package lubuntu-desktop are there additional steps to activate it as default03:03
dr_willisXSevenX_:  wine/windows apps is not the focus.. and 'wine game.exe' is fairly straight forward..03:03
joshumaxI play minecraft sometimes and portal but linux isnt usually a gamers OS03:03
dr_willisAirCombat:  log out.. select it.. log in03:04
joshumaxmainly because of the lack of cross platform apps03:04
AirCombatokay, thats what I thought. thanks03:04
XSevenX_what's the point of having a PC then?03:04
dr_willisAirCombat:  little gear icon on the login screen03:04
AirCombatXSevenX_: why are you on a computer right now then?03:04
Tynachdr_willis, I tried to restart network-manager, and it just changed resolv.conf back to 127.0.0.103:04
dr_williscomputers were invented to play videos and pong! ;)03:04
AirCombatthere's more than just games XSevenX_ .03:04
joshumaxtheir's other things than just games to do on a computer.. ~.~03:04
dr_willisTynach:  no idea then. i rarely have to mess with those settings03:04
[Mod]JordanDr_Willis how do I mount my home and swap drives?03:04
TynachI have also tried rebooting to no avail.03:05
AirCombatI stream videos from my ubuntu server to my ubuntu PC in my bedroom for example03:05
dr_willis[Mod]Jordan:  same as you set for /   just dont format home03:05
AirCombatworks %1000 times better than windows03:05
[Mod]JordanWhich one is home?03:05
dr_willis[Mod]Jordan:  just a guess.. the ONLY OTHER ext4 partition you have.. ;) since it cant be ntfs or fat32 for home...03:05
friedgLinux, Unix, and BSD are not for everyone03:06
dr_willis[Mod]Jordan:  mount them  and see what files are on it.03:06
joshumaxtrue 😶03:06
[Mod]JordanHow do I see?03:07
XSevenX_all I know is at this point I'm sick of trying03:07
friedgsometimes people don't care about how it works or configuration, these people might be better off with a Mac or Windows03:07
mdhXSevenX_: to tell you the truth, probably about half ot the games you want to play will not be able to be played on linux well within 10 years of their release03:07
dr_willismount them.. access them via the file manager  [Mod]Jordan03:07
friedgeven though mac is Unix, it auto configures everything03:07
XSevenX_it's been nothing but work since I got the parts for this PC delivered03:07
joshumaxwell work is good, right?03:07
dakotawulfyjoshumax u  like the unity???03:07
dr_willisXSevenX_:  so?03:07
joshumaxno not really03:08
joshumaxi miss gnome 2..03:08
mdhXSevenX_: i feel that the best advice for you if you want to run windows programs is to buy a copy of windows instead of trying to make linux run windows stuff03:08
TynachXSevenX_, if you want video games, stick with Windows until Valve helps bring more games to Linux.03:08
joshumaxAgreed..03:08
dakotawulfyi tired a lot of systems out there  most seem to be memory hungry03:09
TynachXSevenX_, if you want a few reasons to have a PC beyond gaming and entertainment, we can list some. But they're probably not things you'd want to do anyway, given your attitude.03:09
dr_willisI do find most of the Humble Bundle/Indie games that dont have drm, tend to work well in wine for me03:09
[Mod]JordanDr_Willis: unable to mount home not authorized03:09
Tynachdr_willis, Humble Bundle games are primarily available natively on Linux.03:09
joshumaxyeah and java games work flawlessly03:09
XSevenX_Tynach I just want to have a small amount of enjoyment for once out of my purchase03:09
TynachXSevenX_, you did not purchase Ubuntu.03:09
XSevenX_not feel like I should regret ever making the purchase in the first place03:09
XSevenX_I paid $780 for an entire new system03:10
dr_willisTynach:  i have quite a few that are not. had one that the linux native version was in adobe air. that wouldent even run.. wine ran the windows version fine. ;)03:10
joshumaxwell if you payed so much for this pc whats a little more money?03:10
TynachThen install Windows on it.03:10
XSevenX_I can't afford windows03:10
TynachWindows is what... $250?03:10
[Mod]JordanVyeah03:10
joshumax39.9903:10
[Mod]JordanThat's 803:10
[Mod]Jordan7 is $25003:10
Tynachjoshumax, is that for the upgrade or the full copy?03:10
dr_willisstudent discounts.. :)03:10
[Mod]JordanUpgrade03:10
[Mod]JordanWillis03:11
joshumaxidk03:11
[Mod]JordanI need you :)03:11
friedgUbuntu is about the easiest thing you  can get for free....maybe linux mint03:11
joshumaxor fedora maybe03:11
TynachLinux Mint does have a few nice things.03:11
XSevenX_what's stupid is03:11
TynachAnd I'd recommend Mint KDE.03:11
dr_willis[Mod]Jordan:  i just double click the partion in my file manager and it mounts.. or you try to mount it by hand with the mount command03:11
XSevenX_I've got licenses for Windows XP, Vista, and 703:11
intraderAbout the list's commands - how do I determine if the topic has been answered?03:11
TynachMint KDE is very Windows-like.03:11
XSevenX_but I don't have any CD's03:11
joshumaxyes Mint KDS is nice03:11
joshumax*KDE03:11
TynachSo if you want to have a minimal learning curve from Windows, use KDE.03:12
XSevenX_and microsoft refuses to give me any replacements03:12
[Mod]JordanBut I am not authorized apparently03:12
mykeusthe isos are available online from microsoft directly03:12
TynachXSevenX_, Mint KDE is on a DVD?03:12
joshumaxoh no cd's use unetbootin03:12
dr_willisXSevenX_:  there are legal sites where you can get the windows 7 cd's if you got a key. saw them mentooned on the lifehacker web site03:12
mdhXSevenX_: can't you download a demo of 7 from microsoft and activate it with your key?03:12
joshumaxRules: no warez talk03:12
Tynachjoshumax, if he has a key it isn't warez.03:12
dr_willisThis wasent warez. it was legal because it was a MS site.03:12
joshumaxoh he has it legally?03:13
maitakeyes03:13
maitake3 keys apparently03:13
mdhhe needs install media, but has keys03:13
joshumaxoh03:13
dr_willisAccording to Lifehacker site.. yes.. since it was from the same site you get windows when you buy it online.03:13
dr_willisthey also had rescue/repair cd images which was what i needed.03:14
dr_willisthe ##windows channel should know more03:14
joshumaxXSevenX if u live by seattle you could go to pce they have free copies of xp legally03:14
dr_willisor he could spend the time and learn some linux skills.. ;)03:15
maitake^^03:15
maitakeit's fun03:15
joshumaxit tis fun!!03:15
mdhnot so fun if all you want to do is run windows only stuff though03:15
maitakehas anyone suggested PlayOnLinux to him?03:16
mykeusman will be your best friend03:16
joshumaxinstead of playing LoL u could try compiling your own kernel, dont love it til u do it03:16
friedgsometimes you need to find a linux equivalent to a windows program03:16
dr_willisirc is the ultimate MMORPG03:16
joshumaxoops stype03:16
joshumax*typo03:16
maitakepersonally i've customed out my gnome-shell installation and now i love it too much.. having to use windows at work drives me up the wall03:17
dr_willishmm. steam on windows has like 30+gb of updates for me..  so i let it run as i slept.. woke up,, and it had auto logged me out.. and  thus stopped all updateing.. now nice of you steam...03:18
joshumaxlol03:18
dr_willishope they dont do the same thing on linux..03:18
intraderAnyluck on this item? Good evening all - For some time my laptop has been overheating and shutting down (Lenovo t61p with Linux 12.10). I run Psensors (temp2 goes over 97C) and laptop shuts down. Problem showed up recently after an auto-update. by Update Manager. Application I am running is a is firefox with any video clip (specially in full screen mode). Problem does not show up in Windows XP and FIrefox on same clip.03:18
joshumaxtry "acpi -a" intrader03:19
AirCombatafter I install LXDE or KDE is it possible to free up space by deleting unity/gnome?03:19
AirCombator is that a bad idea?03:19
joshumaxno u can do that AirCombat03:20
dr_willisAirCombat:  i wouldent remove it.. unless you are really tight on space03:20
joshumaxjust dont let it uninstall X03:20
AirCombatlol conflicting answers.03:20
joshumaxlol03:20
AirCombatokay joshumax how do I do that?03:20
joshumaxbest to be on the safe side03:20
dr_willismy answer was not conflucting..03:20
AirCombat(I liked your answer better ;)03:20
dr_willisAirCombat:  and how big is your hd?03:20
AirCombat120GB03:20
joshumaxwell if you type apt-get autoremove unity blah03:20
intraderjoshmc, I am istalling acpi03:21
dr_willisAirCombat:  and you are lacking in space? My whole linux system is on a 128gb SDD03:21
joshumaxmake sure your display manager and X arent in the uninstall list03:21
AirCombatpretty close dr_willis, I have lots of media on that HDD03:21
joshumax120GB, uninstalling wint same much space03:21
AirCombatso the shells are pretty small then?03:21
chipoalguien que pueda hablar español por privado?03:22
joshumaxpretty much, ~100mb03:22
dr_williscompared to the huge size of video files these days.. yes03:22
joshumax~12mb shell only03:22
AirCombatokay cool. thanks guys! I always learn a lot when I come in here.03:22
escott!es | chipo03:22
ubottuchipo: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.03:22
joshumaxyw, i learn alot here too03:22
intraderjoshmc, acpi -a >>'Adapter -: on-line'03:22
AirCombatoh yeah, one more question. how do I defrag in ubuntu?03:22
dr_willisAirCombat:  no need to.. thats windows thinking03:23
joshumaxno need to03:23
AirCombatso linux writes in sequence on the HDD?03:23
dr_willis!defrag03:23
ubottuThe default Ubuntu filesystem (ext4) is engineered to avoid fragmentation issues in most cases, see http://linkpot.net/behead/ for a simple example on how it achieves this.03:23
joshumaxintradar: does it show power supply power?03:23
joshumax*and heat?03:23
AirCombatinteresting... didn't know that.03:23
intraderjoshmc, acpi -a >>'Adapter 0 : on line'03:23
AirCombatgod I love this OS.03:23
joshumax;) its awesome03:23
joshumaxhmm03:24
intraderjoshmc, yes - I am having overheating problems with the battery so I took in out03:24
joshumaxtry acpi -c03:24
intraderjoshmc, response is three lines Cooling 0: LCD 0 of 1503:26
intraderCooling 1: Processor 0 of 1003:26
intraderCooling 2: Processor 0 of 1003:26
joshumaxno temp readouts03:26
bigbadbenMy computer just froze up and I had to kill the power to it, how do I find what the error is03:26
joshumaxmaybe its not acpi, stupid me03:26
joshumaxok i think i found a fix intrader03:27
joshumaxit overheats when using firefox right?03:27
intraderjoshmc, I am running psensor - temp2 is the range that is hit at the op end. How, do you find the fix?03:27
AirCombathmm.. that website explained well why ext4 doesn't need defragging, except when close to full. and I'm definitely over %80. will it take care of itself?03:28
dr_willisfull is like in the 98% range03:28
dr_williseven then. the system reserves 5%  for root ussage03:28
AirCombatyeah, I know that your performance will REALLY suffer when you get that close to %100. but with ext4 do you not lose performance in the %75-%90 range?03:29
joshumaxwell it could be numerous things03:29
dr_willisAirCombat:  i doubt it.03:29
escottAirCombat, properly designed filesystems will only be unable to dynamically defrag when the amount of free space is close to the size of the fragmented files themselves03:29
joshumaxidk but i gtg guys. Today's pizza night :P03:29
joshumaxBye03:29
AirCombatokay. cool. man I love linux! I can't say it enough. I'm going to drop windows entirely soon.03:30
escottAirCombat, if you have 5 gigs free and a bunch of 3MB music files fragmentation really isn't going to be a problem03:30
AirCombatthanks dr_willis , joshumax  and escott03:30
AirCombatright but I have about 15GB free and like tons of 700mb to 2.4GB video files03:30
XSevenX_huehuehue, I just did a replacement request for my Win XP disc via Microsoft and got a system error messages from their website03:30
XSevenX_how stupid.03:30
XSevenX_my Windows XP disc is "OEM" (system builder package), so I can request a replacement because I was never given an original CD03:31
AirCombatXSevenX_: see? ubuntu's looking better already ;) downloading .isos is easier03:31
XSevenX_there is nothing on ubuntu that interests me03:31
XSevenX_this OS literally cannot do the only things I use a PC for03:32
intraderJoshumax I am anxiously waiting.03:33
dr_willisAirCombat:  best to keep your video files on a external (or other) hard drive. not the small SDD03:34
dakotawulfyintrader thought he left03:34
AirCombatyeah, I'm going to transfer them to my media server I guess. it's got almost 1TB. however my network is slow... all those files will take ages.03:34
dr_willisisent XP officially dead yet?03:34
mykeusyes support is03:35
intraderdakotawulfy, so sorry, so joshumax is gone?03:35
AirCombatdr_willis: yeah, very close. they're ending all support soon.03:35
AirCombatmykeus: some support still exists03:35
XSevenX_..wtf03:35
escottAirCombat, this is an SSD? then fragmentation isn't really applicable anyways because its not a raw device03:35
dr_willisXSevenX_:  if you just built this pc.. then XP has a very good chance of not working.. or not having proper drivers for the new hardware03:35
AirCombatits not an SSD03:35
dakotawulfyintrader yep03:35
XSevenX_I have all of the installation discs for the drivers required by all the hardware in my PC03:35
XSevenX_my Win XP key is for Win XP Pro 64-bit03:35
dr_willisXSevenX_:  and hopefully they included xp support in the drivers.. i have quite a bit of hardware with NO xp support..03:36
intraderjoshmc, joshumax said that he found a fix - I wonder what it is!03:36
dakotawulfyintrader fix for what i missed it03:37
AirCombatI just gave up on XP about a month ago, upgraded to Vista. now I'm transitioning from vista to ubuntu. best decision I ever made. EVERYTHING runs better & faster, from games to media, to network03:37
AirCombatanyway, thanks a ton, as usual guys. ttys.03:37
XSevenX_games don't run at all on Ubuntu03:38
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intraderdakotawulfy, ,Anyluck on this item? Good evening all - For some time my laptop has been overheating and shutting down (Lenovo t61p with Linux 12.10). I run Psensors (temp2 goes over 97C) and laptop shuts down. Problem showed up recently after an auto-update. by Update Manager. Application I am running is a is firefox with any video clip (specially in full screen mode). Problem does not show up in Windows XP and FIrefox on same clip.03:38
XSevenX_and I used Vista for 3 years03:38
XSevenX_I would rather be using Vista right now instead of Ubuntu03:38
dr_willisXSevenX_:  i have quiet a few games that run on Ubuntu..03:38
dr_willisXSevenX_:  if you dont want ubuntu support.. then  theres other channels for you to hang in.  If you want support we are here to help.03:39
intraderdakotawulfy, ,joshmc had me run acpi -c with the following multiline results:Cooling 0: LCD 0 of 1503:39
intraderCooling 1: Processor 0 of 1003:39
intraderCooling 2: Processor 0 of 1003:39
baumyso i have a computer that needs to go through an html network login page to access the internet, so i can't use apt-get install to get firefox, which i need to put my info into the login page. is there an easy way to download the firefox package and all of its dependencies so i can stick them on a thumb drive?03:40
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intraderbaumy, use the 'Ubuntu Software Center'03:41
baumyits a server install03:42
escottbaumy, there is not a good way03:42
escottbaumy, you could try and use a text browser like lynx or links03:42
baumyalready tried, the login page rejects it03:42
baumyugh03:43
escottbaumy, but firefox requires too much stuff03:43
baumyyep03:43
baumythats why this is gonna be a bitch03:43
aglet7when i input "grep -c *c" it lists all the files which end with c but then also has a number after a colon. What does that number represent03:43
escottaglet7, line number03:43
aglet7escott, thanks : )03:43
myersgI need to remove all java, and open java stuff from my computer03:43
myersgand reinstall it03:44
dr_willismyersg:  why?03:44
myersgI messed it up.. and its not working right03:44
dakotawulfyintrader let me see what i can find does look like a bug03:44
myersgor didn't install right03:44
dr_willismyersg:  the open java can be removed/.reinstalled via the package manager tools..03:44
dr_willisthats the icetea java03:45
myersghow do I remove the normal java? jdk and jre?03:45
intraderdakotawulfy thanks - there are a lot of folks with overheating problems on ubuntu 12.10 - could be a bug03:45
baumyescott: slightly noob question, what folders do all the firefox stuff get installed to?03:45
XSevenX_overheating problems?03:45
dakotawulfyyep seen that03:45
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dr_willismyersg:  you said 'all' java - so i would guess you want to remove all of those jdk and jre.. we dont know what you messed up03:46
daughainCan someone point me in the right direction to find out how to regain access rights to an old external drive? Running 12.04, if it matters.03:46
escottbaumy, its not so much firefox but all the support libraries that are the problem. X11, sqlite, gtk? etc03:46
myersgok.. give me a minute03:46
dr_willisdaughain:  access it as root via sudo. from a live cd. or installed system., or recovery mode03:46
escottbaumy, you might be able to find a statically linked firefox, but even that...03:46
daesu_Anyone know a good store like system76 in Korea ?03:47
dr_willisdaughain:  what filesystem is on the HD?03:47
intraderXSevenX_, dakotawulfy  is following up on the overheating problems for t61p lenovo running linux 12.10 firefox video clip03:47
escottbaumy, do you have a laptop that could put in ics mode between it03:47
escott?03:47
myersgI used this: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1kl6BBedu4uplvhdFvF2s82rPcCi6ElY8PUbrsCBNVKs/edit03:47
XSevenX_oh03:47
escottbaumy, or put the server in ics for the laptop, and then use the laptop to punch the hole through?03:47
daughaindr_willis, This is, and always has been an external drive. Should be ext303:47
XSevenX_I don't think I've got any overheating issues03:47
escott!ics | baumy03:47
ubottubaumy: If you want to share the internet connection of your Ubuntu machine with other machines in the network see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing03:47
XSevenX_but I just wanted to know if there was a reason to be concerned because I'm using 12.1003:48
escottbaumy, and if its a one time thing you could do it all static so you dont need to install much03:48
dr_willisdaughain:  for ext2/3/4 you  can mount it as you would an internal drive. if you want a USER to have access to it. hen you need to chown the files on it - to be owned by that user03:48
intraderXSevenX_, when I go full screen Psensors temp2 goes to 97C and the machine shuts down.03:49
daughaindr_willis; I'd prefer no to remove it from the casing. Can I simply chown using the mount point?03:49
dr_willisdaughain: err.. who said anything about removeing it from the caseing?  the same commands apply to internal OR external drives.. you chown the files  and  that would include the mountpoint AFTER its mounted - if you want the user to have full access to the root of the hard drive03:50
LoneTrooperHi I have a problem. I just installed propriety drivers for the all-in-one printer/scanner HP 1050A and printing works fine but i can't change quality for scanning. Its like all type of files that have been saved (even png) comes with ugly jpeg compression artifacts. I have Xsane and simple scan to handle scans. I was trying to change preferences in these progs but that did nothing. In Windows i could easy do that. Does anyone have s03:51
LoneTrooperome suggestions pls?03:51
XSevenX_intrader I installed that application Psensor03:51
dakotawulfyintrader u could try this03:51
dakotawulfy"TPFanContro03:51
daughainI'd prefer root access, but as long as I can read and write to it, thats fine. Basically, I plug it in, it mounts, then says I have no access.03:51
dakotawulfy"TPFanControl03:51
dr_willisdaughain:  accessing it as a USER.. that makes sence.. since its ext2/3/4 - its owned by someone otehr then that user...03:52
dakotawulfylet u manual control over the fans03:52
intraderdakotawulfy, what should I try?03:52
dr_willisdaughain:  use the shell and  access it as root..  and you should have full access03:52
daughaindr_willis, Thanks for the help.03:52
intraderXSevenX_, from the terminal start it and then choose temp203:53
XSevenX_it's up03:53
dakotawulfyintrader check out03:53
XSevenX_I have temp 1, temp 2, GPU, core 0, core 1, physical ID 0, /dev/sda, and cpu usage03:54
intraderdakotawulfy, check out what?03:54
dakotawulfyhttp://sourceforge.net/projects/tp4xfancontrol/03:54
intraderXSevenX_, that's is correct - I have temp2 and cpu usuge tracing03:55
XSevenX_wtf03:55
XSevenX_my "core 0" just went up to 41c03:55
XSevenX_and then shot back down to 29c03:55
LoneTrooperso anyone knows about scanning issues with linux?03:55
dakotawulfybe careful is a heat problem don't want to go with it too long03:55
intraderdakotawulfy, should I go to the sourceforge url?03:56
dr_willisor is it a heat getting missreported problem?03:56
dakotawulfysee if u can find info for it read up on it03:56
dakotawulfy looks like that could be a fix for u03:56
intraderdakotawulfy, I was wondering why I don't hear fans on this machine03:57
dakotawulfyit might not be coming on03:58
dakotawulfythat might be your problem03:58
dakotawulfy maybe the power management for your laptop not detecting it right03:59
dakotawulfythat tool03:59
dakotawulfy should let u set it at something to see if thats it03:59
madsailorLoneTrooper, can't help except to say hplip and simple scan do the trick for me on 12.04 for a Photosmart c4700 series04:00
daughainOk, what am I missing here? daughain@Antiquity-Mobi:/media$ sudo chown -hR /storage04:00
daughainchown: missing operand after `/storage'04:00
LoneTroopermadsailor so i must find another program to do so?04:01
LoneTrooperor its just because of drivers...04:01
LoneTrooperbut thx for answer04:02
intraderdakotawulfy, I definitively do no have problem with same videos on Windows XP on same machine; fans do not go on yet!  It is is only Linux.04:03
dakotawulfyintrader sorry that for xp04:04
dakotawulfyno sorry04:04
dakotawulfy thought that was tool for linux04:04
surbsis it possible to remove the "desktop" folder from Ubuntu One as a shared folder? I understand that you can stop syncing it, but what about removal from the application?04:04
dakotawulfyintrader if your driver that controls that on linux is not right u will have that problem04:05
intraderdakotawulfy, and the correct driver is... Video driver?04:06
madsailorLoneTrooper,  I can't help 'cause it 'just worked' for me and didn't have any issues.  I installed hplip from the software center along with simple scan, and it all worked out of the box.  I don't know what driver you are using, but you might try uninstalling it and using the hplip driver04:06
dakotawulfyintrader do u know if u have power management  working or installed04:06
dakotawulfywell that could be it to04:07
dakotawulfy did u try jocky to install the driver04:07
un-1hello04:08
LoneTrooperim using proprietary drivers from hp's web site (thats hiplip 3.13.2)04:08
un-1Could someone help me with a Red5 question?04:08
intraderdakotawulfy, power management is running and set to run the laptop at full speed as I have the Windowx XP set at. By the way Psensor show fan1 ad 3055 RPM ( is is WAY silent!)04:09
gloHelp. 3 times to install ubuntu 12.10 Finally works but runs like molasses... nearly unusable.04:09
LoneTrooperi had to cos those drivers that come with xubuntu could print well ( i had yellow replaced by green lol)04:09
LoneTroopercould not04:10
dakotawulfyright that in windows but what about linux04:10
dakotawulfydid u open the powermanament in linux see if u could set it up04:10
gloNeed to know. Is linux suppossed to run like windows?04:11
daughainCan someone help me with some chown problems?04:11
intraderdakotawulfy, power management show up as an optiion when the battery is in. As I said, the battery overheated, and I am running the laptop without it.04:11
gloTok 2 hours to get to this forum.04:11
gloWhats a chown04:12
dakotawulfyintrader so not getting hot without battery04:13
dakotawulfy???04:13
daughainchown is a cli command to change ownership of files/folders/etc04:13
gloUbuntu thinks my pc is a laptop .. can not change it.04:13
histoglo: What type of video card do you have?04:13
histoglo: Why do you think it thinks your pc is a laptop? It doesn't think at all.04:14
glothanks, nvidia 8600 gts04:14
madsailorLoneTrooper,  if the drivers you got from HP aren't specific to xu/buntu that may be some of the problem.  I'd hold on to the install (.deb) you got from HP as a fallback,  uninstall that, and install the version from the ubuntu repos (3.12.2)04:14
gloathalon 64 3200 1.99 ghz 1.5 gram04:14
madsailorthen if you have no luck you can always return to where you're at now04:14
histoglo: under system settings > software sources > There is a Hardware tab04:14
histoglo: Install proper drivers for your nvidia card there as they aren't provided out of the gate on ubuntu due to licensing restrictions.04:15
histoglo: You are currently running the open source nouveau driver which doesn't have as good of performance as the nvidia driver.04:15
intraderdakotawulfy, it does get hot and shuts down. It is worse if a page with multiple videos are showing.04:15
glothanks ... its run  ing    s ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo    slooooooooooooooooooooooow... big pain.04:16
LoneTrooperyeh i had them but like i said by printing some colors were wrong i had to change to proprietary ones04:16
daughainHow do I change the computer name?04:16
LoneTrooperthe most important thing that printing works now i think i dont need to scan in nearest future04:17
histo!hostname | daughain04:17
ubottudaughain: Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hosts to include BOTH the old and new hostname and then change /etc/hostname to the new one. WARNING! Make sure that your current hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly.04:17
dakotawulfyintrader have not found it yet  but should be a tool to let u controle the fans04:17
intraderdakotawulfy, sorry I misled you about the battery. I had to take batery out. due to the overheating problems on the laptop. The side on the left top is way hot (cook and egg easily)04:17
dakotawulfysee still think it is a power management issue04:18
un-1could I get some help from someone?04:18
gloit will take awhile  to open that04:18
un-1I have been working on this problem for 9 hours and im stuck04:19
dakotawulfy do u have that problem in windows with the battery ???04:19
tgm4883_!ask | un-104:19
ubottuun-1: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience04:19
LoneTrooperGLO - if u re looking for what performance drivers for windows and linux offer u should check for example http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_windows_part1&num=104:19
glosoftware sources is open... now where?04:19
un-1ok sorry about that.04:19
intraderdakotawulfy, the fan is cycling and shows in PSensor - so something is controlling it. I don't like unity as a lot of the control functionality is not easily accessible or different04:19
dakotawulfyyep unity is hard04:20
dakotawulfysorry did not find the fix for it04:20
un-1I am trying to setup a streaming server using red5.  I have installed the deb, but the server doesnt seem to run.  I am running it on ubuntu 12.04 on a cloud server, VPS.  I have Root ssh access, and am trying to figure out how to do use RED5.  I would rather not use wowza as it is propriatary and I am all about open source.04:21
histoglo: the hardware tab at the top04:21
intraderdakotawulfy, the fan grill is hot but I can't really detect a fan stream.04:21
histoun-1: why did you enable root? especially for ssh login?04:22
dakotawulfy look to see if u can find a program to control the fans  and see if u can set the fan to a higher speed on the video card04:22
gloit was initially running a linux graphic driver. I opted for the Nvidia listed. NOw I can not find that list. It was however slower with the linux gxo whatever.04:22
madsailorLoneTrooper,  you should be able to get full functionality as hp printers are pretty well supported on the 'buntu platforms.  Unfortunately, I'm not the one to help you get there.  You might take a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HPPrinterInstallation.04:22
DarkLordcan anyone answer a display question for Ubuntu04:22
un-1histo: I was given access as root to start, this is what the provider gave me.04:22
madsailoror you could just print out a sign to remind yourself to do it later since printing is working ;)04:22
histoun-1: oh boy... anyhoot http://www.red5.org/support/04:22
dakotawulfyintrader i dont think it is telling it to work right04:23
histoun-1: Shouldn't be enabling root account when we are using sudo. Especially shouldn't be enabling root to login over ssh.04:23
gloIt's just to slow to work with.04:23
LoneTrooperok i check this out madsailor thx for a tip04:23
histoglo: did you install the nvidia driver?04:23
gloyes04:23
histoglo: After installing it, it should ask to reboot. then you will see a diference.04:24
nicolenicoleI cannot install Ubuntu 12.10 64-bit via UEFI live DVD to a computer with Windows 8 Pro 64-bit, any help?  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=211973404:24
globeen there.04:24
histo!uefi | nicolenicole04:24
ubottunicolenicole: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware, it is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI04:24
nicolenicoleI've already read that04:25
un-1histo: should I desable root and just use sudo?04:25
gloWhere is that driver list option.04:25
intraderdakotawulfy, 3765 RPM and ranges from 302504:25
DarkLordcan anyone tell me why half of my top bar where the time is displayed and the bar on the right side i can only see half of both of them on my 46 lcd?04:25
histonicolenicole: I would verify your disk with md5sum real quick just to be sure.04:26
nicolenicolethe disk is fine, it installed on my old computer ok04:26
dakotawulfyintrader do u know for sure that is the fan on the video ???or if it has one on video ??04:27
dakotawulfyseem low04:27
histonicolenicole: It only takes minutes to check. But you can keep guessing at what's wrong or eliminate possibilities and troubleshoot.04:27
DarkLordanyone?04:27
histoDarkLord: overscan?04:28
glothanks... done with linux04:28
nicolenicoleI've tried several disks and all have the same issue, the problem is definitely with the computer somewhere, my guess is either graphics or in the EFI settings04:28
daughainDarkLord, I havent used anything bigger than a 26, so no clue04:28
histoglo: Okay you cant open a terminal ctrl+alt+t and sudo apt-get install nvidia-current then reboot04:28
intraderdakotawulfy, maybe the Psensor is measuring current to fan and not speed of fan and air flow . The PSensor graph shows the fan speed to go past 4000 RPM when temp2 shows 97C. I could try a youTube at full screen and see what happens next04:29
histonicolenicole: Disable efi then and see if that's the issue. Boot in legacy mode.04:29
DarkLordits a fresh install of Ubuntu for a new user of Linux on my windows 7 Ult i had the amd catalyst control that let me scale the window to fit04:29
nicolenicoleI tried that already, same issue04:29
LoneTrooperDoes anyone have xnViewMP installed? Program can't properly display files (it shows few bars across the screen) if using high quality zoom (either with reduce, enlarge or both) on images with reduced depth of colors (except grayscale). Has anyone experienced this on ubuntu 12.10?04:29
un-1Thank you everyone found the info I was look for.04:29
histonicolenicole: Then it's not EFI so.....04:30
nicolenicoleI tried installing on both MBR and GPT partition tables, with UEFI disabled and enabled, several times04:30
histonicolenicole: Okay and what happens each time?04:30
surbsis it possible to remove the "desktop" folder from Ubuntu One as a shared folder? I understand that you can stop syncing it, but what about removal from the application? (last time posting, thank you to whoever responds)04:30
nicolenicoleif it isn't EFI then it might be a graphics issue, several posts said I needed to press F6 and use nomodeset04:30
histo!patience | surbs04:31
ubottusurbs: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/04:31
histonicolenicole: Have you tried passing that option?04:31
nicolenicoleI get the text menu to try or install Ubuntu after the UEFI disc boot, upon selecting option, get a blank black screen04:31
nicolenicoleF6 doesn't do anything04:31
nicolenicoleI've tried pressing it at several points during the boot and throughout04:31
histonicolenicole: F4 i think is the options menu it should say right at the bottom.04:31
dr_willissurbs:  theres a #ubuntu-one channel that may know more on the specifis.04:32
dr_willisI dont think i have 'Desktop' as a Ubuntu one shares/synced folder.04:32
intraderdakotawulfy, as soon as I have a full screen video the temperature temp2 starts going up- video http://www.tricedesigns.com/2013/02/19/video-introduction-to-phonegap/04:32
histocome on hard drives 110MB/second need mor espeed04:32
nicolenicolehttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2119734 --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 doesn't work04:32
daughaindr_willis, got so,e time to help me with my HD?04:33
nicolenicoleI didn't try F4 though04:33
dr_willisdaughain:  what do you need?04:33
surbshisto, dr_willis: thank you. my apologies for the double post, patience certainly is a virtue!04:33
LoneTrooperanyone had or have XnViewMP?04:33
nicolenicoleit looks like the F-keys are for the graphic menu and not the UEFI text menu though?04:33
daughaindr_willis, chown didnt work too well. the drive did something, but it didnt give me ownership.04:33
dr_willisdaughain:  what was the exact command you used?04:34
daughainsudo chown -hR root /media/storage04:34
daughaindr_willis, as i recall.04:34
dr_willisdaughain:  it was most likely allready owned by root...04:34
intraderdakotawulfy, up to 95C, it will shut the machine down shortly04:35
histonicolenicole: You can try the alternate iso for a text based installer.04:35
dr_willisdaughain:  and your want to access it via the gui as your user? or how excatly?04:35
nicolenicoleI'll probably get lost, but according to the Ubuntu instructions, I shouldn't need it?04:35
intraderdakotawulfy, up to 96C and very hot to touch --- fan1 to 2950RPM???04:36
daughaindr_willis,  Prefferably so I can access it on the gui of 3 different computers. I did a reinstall on my desktop, and thats when the reading issues started.04:36
dr_willisdaughain:  you have the same user on 3 differnt computers?04:36
daughainYes.04:36
dr_willisdaughain:  then chown the mountpoint and files to be owned by that user.. not root04:36
daughainHOw do I do that?04:37
dr_willischown -R username:username /media/whatever04:37
dr_williswith a sudo at the front. ;)04:37
antonio_I'm working on a friends computer that they just bought...can04:37
antonio_can't get wireless...using a livecd to test the wireless...04:37
nicolenicolecould EFI be preventing the live DVD from booting?  I get the boot menu though04:37
daughaindr_willis,  Ok, will try that, thanks.04:37
DarkLordis there a scale in Ubuntu that alows you to scale the size of windows my 46 lcd is in 1080 but my side bar and yop bar is cut in half04:37
antonio_what terminal commands can I use to see if there is a working wifi card in it?04:38
surbsdr_willis, histo : never mind figured it out: http://askubuntu.com/questions/149124/how-do-i-remove-a-folder-from-the-ubuntu-one-folders-tab04:38
dr_willisDarkLord:  are yopu using a TV as a pc  monitor?04:38
intraderdakotawulfy, up to 98C and very hot to touch --- fan1 to 3295RPM???04:39
histonicolenicole: Which boot menu are you getting can you post a screenshot?04:39
histo!paste | nicolenicole04:39
ubottunicolenicole: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.04:39
nicolenicolehttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI --> Identifying if the computer boots the CD in EFI mode04:39
DarkLorddr_willis yes i use a tv as my main monitor for my laptop04:39
histonicolenicole: Perhaps someone else can help you04:40
nicolenicolethe CD boots in EFI mode but when selecting try or install goes to a blank screen04:40
dr_willisDarkLord:  then its the tvs Overscan settings/modes thats trimming off the edges of the screen.04:40
antonio_What terminal command can I use to see if there is a wifi card in a laptop?04:40
slava_ai ne ponemai04:40
dr_willisantonio_:  lspci04:40
daughainOk, not the drive I thoiught it was, but one I thought was lost!04:41
nicolenicolecould it just be a graphics issue?04:41
nicolenicolethe computer was manufactured in 2012 by HP with AMD graphcis04:41
histoDarkLord: You can play with DPI settings,resolutions, or play with the TVs settings. Most have a button on the remote for different modes04:42
nicolenicole*graphics04:42
intraderdakotawulfy, up to 98C - grill would burn finger or palm04:42
slava_кто небудь помогите как пользоваться консолью ???04:42
daughainAnd poeple wonder wjhy I refuse to buy HP anymore.....04:42
histonicolenicole: It could be anything but you don't want to try anything.04:42
DarkLorddr_willis before i installed Ubuntu i had the amd catalyst center that had a slider that would change the scale of the windows04:42
DarkLorddo i need to install a video driver or does Ubuntu auto install one?04:43
histoDarkLord: what version of ubuntu?04:43
dr_willisDarkLord:  ive used that befor.. then i discovered my tv had a 'turn off overscan' option04:43
dr_willisDarkLord:  the fglrx driver is normally NOT installed by default04:43
DarkLordIm usung Ubuntu 12.1004:43
slava_au pomogite04:43
DarkLord64bit04:43
aetaric_nicolenicole, i've actually run into that problem... i can get 12.04 alternative iso to boot but only if i add the kernel option "nomodeset"04:43
nicolenicoleyes I saw those posts04:44
aetaric_which breaks X11 later... :/04:44
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nicolenicoleit said to use F6 to install with nomodeset04:44
histoDarkLord: Click the gear up by the clock go to system settings > Software Sources > hardware tab04:44
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nicolenicolebut F6 doesn't do anything, is there another way?04:44
aetaric_not sure04:44
aetaric_the iso i've been using loads grub204:45
nicolenicolewhat is the alternative ISO?04:45
aetaric_it's a text based installer...04:45
nicolenicoledoes that install the full Ubuntu?04:45
aetaric_yes04:45
nicolenicoleI would need a manual, I'm not the best at command line :-p04:45
aetaric_but my X11 doesn't load04:45
aetaric_so there's that04:46
nicolenicoledo you have a link with instructions?04:46
DarkLordhisto there is not a hardware tab for me in software sources only Ubuntu software, other software updates, authentication and additional drivers?04:46
nicolenicolewhat is X11?04:46
histonicolenicole: press e on that boot screen you are seeing04:46
dr_willisDarkLord:  addational-0drivers is what you want04:46
aetaric_!X1104:46
ubottuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution04:46
nicolenicoleI would have to log out04:47
daughainIs there a way to test an HD that wont mount?04:47
nicolenicole*of here04:47
aetaric_!x11 | nicolenicole04:47
ubottunicolenicole: please see above04:47
dr_willisdaughain:  try mounting it by hand. look for error messages in dmesg if it fauls04:47
dr_willisfails04:47
nicolenicoleso you don't have GUI?04:47
aetaric_nope04:47
histonicolenicole: well you can press e and it should bring up a kernel line at the bottom of the screen you can add whatever options you want to the selected kernel at the end of the line04:47
aetaric_i'm stuck in bash04:47
nicolenicoleeeks no that is not for me04:47
nicolenicoleI'm a casual user lol04:47
DarkLordadditional drivers doesnt show anything04:47
aetaric_DarkLord, you will need to install jockey for addition drivers04:48
histoDarkLord: you can lspci -k    and see which driver is being loaded for your Video device04:48
histoaetaric_: nope04:48
[Relic]Am I thinking properly for getting rid of old kernel versions;  remove them with whatever package manager then run apt-get clean to remove them from the disk?04:48
daughaindr_willis, Errr...What I mean is, I plug it in, and all the drive does is spin up. I cant tell if the computer is even detecting its exist\ence.04:49
aetaric_histo, jockey isn't installed by default anymore04:49
nicolenicole@histo press "e" when I get to the text menu for UEFI disk boot?04:49
histoaetaric_: 12.10 moved the additional drivers dialog to software sources there is a tab there.04:49
aetaric_well that's silly04:49
aetaric_there's nothing wrong with jockey04:49
nicolenicoleat histo, press "e" when I get to the text menu after UEFI disc boot?04:49
histonicolenicole: yes you select which boot option you are going to use with the up and down arrows and then press e to edit that line.04:49
nicolenicolewhoah, sorry, chat got stuck04:49
histoaetaric_: jockey-text is still installed I believe04:50
antonio_dr_willis: this is what I get when I use lspci http://s98.beta.photobucket.com/user/con_movies/media/2013-02-24_18-42-12_32_zps9dffbc29.jpg.html04:50
nicolenicoleok then what?04:50
intraderdakotawulfy, GPU to 102C - I think that the measurement of fan is only the current not the flow. I don't feel airflow - just hot keyboard04:50
nicolenicoleaccording to the forums, if it is a graphics issue, I need to use "nomodeset" then it will return the graphics after installing04:51
histonicolenicole: add your nomodeset or whatever to the end of the line04:51
nicolenicolecan you give me exactly what I need to type?04:51
histonicolenicole: yeah nomodeset04:51
nicolenicoleoh ok04:51
dr_willis!nomodeset04:51
ubottuA common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter04:51
nicolenicolejust type that and hit enter?04:51
histonicolenicole: at the end of the kernel line yes.04:52
nicolenicoleook04:52
nicolenicolelogging out, thanks04:52
histonicolenicole: inside the "'s if there are any04:52
nicolenicole*ok04:52
dr_willisnormally i put  it as 'quiet splash nomodeset'04:52
nicolenicoleso press "e" then type "nomodeset" and hit enter04:52
dr_willisor 'noquiet nosplash nomodeset verbose' that way i see all the boot messages04:52
dr_willisnicolenicole:  No... you EDIT a line..04:52
intraderdakotawulfy, is there a way to superinpose PSensor on the full screen runing the youTube?04:53
nicolenicoleI'm not sure what that means04:53
dr_willisnicolenicole:  look for the line with 'quiet splash' put nomodeset btween them04:53
nicolenicoleok... I'll play with it, logging out, thanks04:53
antonio_dr_willis: any idea about this?04:54
DarkLordhow do you bring up the console in ubuntu 12.10?04:55
histoDarkLord: ctrl+alt+F1-F6  or you can open a terminal? is that what you mean?04:56
histo DarkLord ctrl+alt+F7 to get back to GUI04:56
DarkLordhisto yes i meant terminal04:56
histoDarkLord: ctrl+alt+t04:56
dr_willisantonio_:  if the cards seen. it should be in that list.  I dont do enough wifi to know what cards are what.04:56
histoDarkLord: or you can type terminal in the dash and it will show you icons for gnome-terminal04:57
DarkLordhisto this is what it gave me when i put that command into the terminal http://dpaste.com/991628/04:58
dr_willisantonio_:  i see no 'network' stuff there at all. but i could be overlooking it.04:58
antonio_I don't either04:58
histoantonio_: There is not network cards showing up in your lspci04:58
antonio_some crackhead sold my friend a laptop and told them wireless worked04:58
dr_willisi got a cheap wifi dongle  i plug into machines so i can then use the addational-0drivers tool to get drivers for the built in wifi - if needed04:59
histoantonio_: I would check dmesg after clearing it and bootign to see if it even sees a card04:59
dr_willisantonio_:  does the addational-drivers tool suggest anything?04:59
histoDarkLord: You are currently using the radeon driver04:59
nicolenicoleomg thank you!  yes it worked like a charm, just hit "e" and entered "nomodeset" after "quiet splash" and hit F10 and went to start loading Ubuntu graphics, going to switch to Ubuntu Studio 12.10 to install, hope that goes ok now05:00
histonicolenicole: good luck05:00
DarkLordyes is that the most recent one or something cause this only being able to see half of the side and top bar is really annoying05:00
dr_willisnicolenicole:  the install cd has the same option.. but in a differnt way. ;)05:00
nicolenicolethey should be the same both being 12.10 yes?05:01
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histoDarkLord: It's your resolution settings with your TV05:01
histoDarkLord: what does xrandr show you current resolution at?05:01
antonio_have you guys ever heard of a display computer not having internet connections?05:01
histoantonio_: yes.05:02
DarkLordbut it was working fine in full 1080p earlier today on Win 7 Ult05:02
histoDarkLord: Okay and what does xrandr say?05:02
histoDarkLord: You may need to change your resolution or turn off overscaning with your tv05:02
DarkLordxrandr is that something i need to type in the terminal?05:02
histoDarkLord: yes05:02
histonick_h: What should be the same?05:03
dr_willisturning off overscanning.. is  the best fix i find.05:03
DarkLordhttp://dpaste.com/991645/05:04
histoDarkLord: 1018mm x 573mm  Is this the size of your display?05:05
DarkLordno on my tv i have it set on the 1920 x 1080 (16:9)05:05
histoDarkLord: No the physical size. It's a 46" tv right?05:06
DarkLordyes its a 46 sony lcd05:07
histoDarkLord: try xrandr --dpi 4805:08
CallingPantherhello05:08
mehdi_my icons and top panel when i run Libreoffice writer goes blurry  how can i reset it to normal? ecept unity --reset?05:08
DarkLordthey are still cut off05:09
histoDarkLord: did it accept the command? you may need to use sudo xrandr --dpi 4805:09
histoDarkLord: and did anything change05:09
c4nuckhey any of you guys manage your iphone 4s in linux ?05:09
DarkLordyes it acepted it no error or anything and i believe the left bar showed alittle more but not much but the top bar no change05:10
histoDarkLord: check xrandr and see if the dpi is being changed on the hdmi connection or the lvds05:10
histoDarkLord: if it's changing the lvds we need to xrandr -display HDMI-0 --dpi 4805:11
histoDarkLord: This would all be much easier to fix by just turning overscan off on your tv05:11
DarkLordi looked for overscan on my tv but didnt see an option for it05:11
CallingPantherIs there like a channel for IRC noobs or those that are re-learning IRC?05:12
DarkLordhere is the new xrandr http://dpaste.com/991678/05:13
djBussHow can i select the version of the package for a apt-get install?05:13
histoDarkLord: and you said you tried the catalyst control center?05:14
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histodjBuss: there aren't multiple versions in the repos05:15
DarkLordno i had it on my windows that was what i had to use to scale but i downloaded it again from amd.com the linux version and couldnt figure out how to install it05:15
histoDarkLord: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI05:15
djBusshisto, yes there are. I need to install PEAR for php 5.305:15
djBussbut i'm running ubuntu QQ05:16
djBussit defaults for PHp5.4 and PEAR for PHP5.4 as well05:16
histo!find pear05:17
ubottuFound: debpear, libghc-shakespeare-css-dev, libghc-shakespeare-css-doc, libghc-shakespeare-css-prof, libghc-shakespeare-dev, libghc-shakespeare-doc, libghc-shakespeare-i18n-dev, libghc-shakespeare-i18n-doc, libghc-shakespeare-i18n-prof, libghc-shakespeare-js-dev (and 16 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=pear&searchon=names&suite=quantal&section=all05:17
djBuss!find php-pear05:17
ubottuFound: php-pear05:17
djBuss!find php-pear 5.305:17
ubottu5.3 is not a valid distribution: extras, hardy, hardy-backports, hardy-proposed, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, lucid, lucid-backports, lucid-proposed, medibuntu, oneiric, oneiric-backports, oneiric-proposed, partner, precise, precise-backports, precise-proposed, quantal, quantal-backports, quantal-proposed, raring, raring-backports, raring-proposed, stable, testing, unstable05:17
histodjBuss: What makes you think there are multiple versions in the repos?05:17
histo!info php-pear | djBuss05:18
ubottudjBuss: php-pear (source: php5): PEAR - PHP Extension and Application Repository. In component main, is optional. Version 5.4.6-1ubuntu1.1 (quantal), package size 358 kB, installed size 2228 kB05:18
histodjBuss: Notice the version that's the version you will get if you install php-pear in quantal05:18
histodjBuss: The only other option is to install pear and php yourself either from ppa or sources05:18
djBussoh ok05:18
djBussbut I could install one package05:19
djBussby selecting it version, let me just remember what was it05:19
histodjBuss: I'm sure there are some but they would have #'s after their name like php5 vs. phpx05:20
djBussi believe it was php-gd05:20
dup!viewnior05:21
histodjBuss: it doesn't appear that php-pear has been packaged in multiple versions but i'm not on ubuntu to check atm.05:21
djBusshisto, how could I check the list of version for php5-gd for instance?05:21
histodjBuss: apt-cache search php5-gd   in terminal or search the software center for php5-gd packages05:22
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djBusshisto, thank you i'll try to find a different repository then...05:26
histo!ppa | djBuss05:26
ubottudjBuss: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge05:26
histodjBuss: Is there a reason you want to use an older version btw?05:27
nonan!apt05:31
ubottuAPT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome), !Muon (KDE) or !Apper (KDE)05:31
singh_abhinavi have messed up my dpkg, i was installing 'php-java-bridge-j2ee' and something got broke,  now when ever i'm installing new software (using sudo apt-get install)  it is complaining 'E: The package php-java-bridge-j2ee needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.'   how should I fix my dpkg now (i want to get rid from php-java-bridge-j2ee)05:35
Aestheticso...im running 12.10.   had to reinstall unity/lightdm/compiz in order to clean out some problems i had.   now i cant get GUI during boot.  i can manually start it by doing startx or service lightdm restart in another tty05:35
Aesthetichow do i make this default?05:35
DarkLordhow do i navigate in the terminal to a folder on my home screen05:36
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dr_willisDarkLord:  cd /path/to/dir    which may be /home/yourusername/Desktop/foldername    in your case05:36
dr_willisDarkLord:  now would be a good time to read a bash tutrial or 205:36
histosingh_abhinav: sudo apt-get purge php-java-bridge-j2ee05:36
dr_willisand Case IS imporntant DarkLord05:37
Aestheticactually service lightdm start only brings me back to my kernel boot screen.    only startx and service gdm start work05:37
Aestheticand its the old style login, not the new one05:37
dr_willisyou can set up gdm to launch at boot via 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm'05:37
dr_willisor select lightdm perhaps.05:37
DarkLorddr_willis bash? im guessing that is something that will help me out alot, got a link for a good tutorial cause i def. need all the help i can get05:37
dr_willisits hard for us to know what has happened to your syustem05:37
dr_willis!bash05:38
ubottuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome), K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE), or Menu -> Accessories -> LXTerminal (LXDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal05:38
dr_willistheres 100000s of guides and sites on bash05:38
dr_willisi always check delicious.com to see which ones have been tagged the most.05:38
histoDarkLord: you can also type man into    in a terminal to get a brief introduction05:38
dr_willisman intro  ?05:39
Aestheticdr_willis: i think thats my problem....only startx works, and that brings me into directly into desktop05:39
DarkLordok thanks everyone for the help05:39
Aestheticwhile service gdm start gives me old-style login05:39
Aestheticbut lightm wont start and give me modern login05:39
dr_willisno idea how you would manage to break lightdm.05:40
dr_willisi use gdm normally. i find it easier to use05:40
histoDarkLord: I hardly use the GUI anymore though...05:40
histoAesthetic: Does it error if you try and start lightdm?05:40
Aestheticyeah...."rejected send message, 1 matched rules; type="method_call".......05:41
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adasthis room is always packed!05:43
Aestheticactually...after i fully shutdown lightdm.....  starting it just takes me to kernel boot screen (where you see all the things listed thats loading)05:43
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g_dminhello05:44
Deezohi05:44
Deezosudo rm -rf /05:45
benjaminessHello can some please tell me if this dell server can run a version of ubuntu? http://www.dell.com/downloads/global/products/pedge/en/840_specs.pdf I tried a live cd and live usb no luck05:45
g_dminwhere are you from?05:46
Deezomy laptop wouldnt boot into linux without both a live cd and usb, perhaps try that/05:46
CallingPantherxchat question.... any takers.05:47
serp_??05:47
serp_benjaminess: what error are you getting?05:47
histo!ask | CallingPanther05:48
ubottuCallingPanther: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience05:48
benjaminessIt will just hang at the loading screen and get stuck05:48
Aestheticso yeah...after reinstalling lightdm/compiz/unity.....ubuntu just hangs at kernel boot screen (the list of [ OK ] "   i can go into another tty and do startx, but cant get this doing it by default05:48
histobenjaminess: What video card is in the machine?05:48
benjaminessI'm thinking the bios is out of date05:48
benjaminessEmbedded ATI ES1000 with 16MB memory05:48
benjaminessmaybe its the video card05:49
madsailorCallingPanther, xchat has support in the #xchat channel05:50
histobenjaminess: try booting with the nomodeset option05:50
histo!nomodeset | benjaminess05:50
ubottubenjaminess: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter05:50
Aestheticdmesg says lightdm  main process terminated with status 105:50
CallingPantherwell my issue is xchat/ubuntu related05:50
c4nuckhey any of you guys manage your iphone 4s in linux ?05:51
CallingPantherI am using Ubuntu 12.04 and when I start xchat there is no icon on my side bar05:52
Deezono, i boot into an OS X partition to manage my ipod touch05:52
benjaminessAwesome Thank you, I'll give it a try05:52
rekhahey, i have an acer aspire one that hasn't a screen, and i want to boot it from usb... thoughts? i'm not sure what the boot order is, but i'm pretty sure f12 is boot from device05:52
Deezorekha: might as well give it a try, sounds like fun05:53
rekhadeezo right, but what do you think? just methodically press down once, twice, three times, etc?05:53
Deezotry a brief google search on which button, if all else fails then just hold it down?05:53
historekha: yes F12 is boot menu. on revo I have one05:54
rekhano it seems to stop there, the question is getting it to boot from usb05:54
historekha: Not sure which choice is USB on that menu though. Probably press down once and then enter. Why do you not have a monitor or a tv?05:55
rekhabecause i don't?05:55
rekhaif i did this would be simpler :P05:55
historekha: You can hook the revo up to a television with hdmi cable05:55
histoYou dont' own a TV?05:56
historekha: What computer are you talkign to us on now?05:56
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CallingPantherrekha: are you using it as a server?05:56
rekhaone of several laptops, however, all the options seem to be booting the hdd. and for now, yes, i have a usb stick preconfigured to load x11vnc so i can conect05:57
rekhaand no, no tv05:57
CallingPantherahh05:57
alienauthey is there a alternative to linked app on ubuntu https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/dash-docs-snippets/id458034879?mt=1205:57
alienautits called dash05:57
CallingPanther let me get my netbook05:57
rekhait's an aspire one d255, so i'm not sure if it uses th mouse for bios but it doesn't seem that new05:58
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historekha: do you have a keyboard plugged into it?05:59
rekhahisto: it's a netbook, so it has one already05:59
rekhathe screen is cracked pretty brutally, so i get next to no response out of it. i get dark, and slightly-less-dark but that's it05:59
historekha: Oh not a revo gotcha... I'm thinking of the little nettop systems05:59
historekha: A flashlight will help possibly to show the screen if not hook up an external monitor or TV.06:00
rekhayeah, but essentially the same thing at this point, but i'm hoping to set it up via vnc so i can use it for playing music/radioshows via keyboard just by booting it06:00
historekha: None of this has anythign to do with ubuntu though it's more of a #hardware question.06:00
rekhahisto: yeah, monitor is on the list, don't own a tv...06:00
rekhathat is true06:01
historekha: You could just make a cli box no need for monitor and ssh in etc.. to control apps. I have a nettop like that as my server.06:01
rekhayeah, that's the plan, but the question is booting the usb drive still, once i get that i'm good to go06:01
historekha: I would just borrow a monitor to get it installed and then run it headless. Disable any halt on errors in the bios also.06:01
rekhathat's the plan, however, fairly unique situation so i'm not going to be able to do that in the overly near future06:02
historekha: http://www.instructables.com/id/Install-Windows7-on-to-a-Acer-Netbook-from-a-USB-F/step7/Acer-Netbook-BIOS-boot-order/ this may help06:02
CallingPanthersorry mine is ZG506:03
rekhaoh so it should just be the top one, cool06:03
historekha: it has bios setting keys etc... and pictures you maybe able to navigate through it following these instructions06:03
dupHow do I select a gtk theme and icon theme without a gui? Where is the configuration file?06:03
dwardHi everyone, I'm (semi-)new curious about something06:04
dwardNot very technical at all but I was wondering. Is there an ubuntu equibalent to screenfetch for gentoo or archery for arch?06:05
histodup: gconf probably in xml files in your ~ there are console based editors I can't think of them right now.06:06
duphisto: Thanks, I'll take a look.06:06
histodward: You want it to be cli based or are you using a gui?06:06
histodward: there is scrot or you can hit the print screen button on a default install06:07
dwardcli would be better i guess06:07
dwardi was just wondering if anything existed06:07
dwardalong those lines06:07
histodward: yes there are plenty apt-cache search screenshot  would show some suggestions06:08
histodward: or search the software center for screenshot06:08
dwardno that's not what screenfetch does06:08
dwardor archery06:08
dupscrot is in the repos.06:08
histodward: okay what does it do?06:08
dwardpurely asthetic, let me find some screenshots06:09
histodward: do you mean archey? like the little info script06:09
Aesthetichrmm06:09
histodward: that comes up when you open a terminal or ona login shell?06:09
madsailordward : http://www.linuxandlife.com/2012/02/how-to-install-screenfetch-and-archey.html06:09
Aesthetici checked /var/log/boot.log   and see that lightdm starts, but then it says stopping gnome display manager06:09
dupOh, screenFetch. That script works on Ubuntu.06:09
dupDownload it from the git page.06:09
dupAnd it'll run.06:09
dupArchey works on Ubuntu, too, I think.06:10
dwardoh ya looking it up06:10
Aestheticmaybe cus i removed my .gnome and .gnome2 dirs?06:10
Aestheticso cleanout old settings06:10
histodward: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=156198406:10
dwardI see that it works on many distrobutions06:10
histodward: yeah it's just a script tha tpulls info from various sources and displays it.06:10
dwardthanks for the info06:10
histoAesthetic: Do you have lightdm selected as the default instead of gdm?06:11
dwardi wanted to use the cool ascii ubuntu symbol for my wm background06:11
dupWhat wm are you using?06:11
dupJust out of curiosity.06:12
dwardnow i can just swap in my gentoo config, i've been using awesome for about six months06:12
histodward: there are other tools to turn pictures into ascii also06:12
Aesthetichisto: yep06:12
dwardswitched over from xmonad, i much perfer lua.06:13
dwardover haskell06:13
histoAesthetic: You can remove those directories and still boot. Lightdm doesn't need them.06:13
Aestheticlike i said...if i bounce to anotheer tty and type "startx" im good06:13
histoughh lua06:13
histoAesthetic: yeah but startx just starts your desktop right?06:13
Aestheticyup06:13
dwardhisto: better then haskell imo. I feel like i'm god writting commandments when i program in haskell06:13
Aestheticno menys tho06:14
Aesthetic*menus06:14
histoAesthetic: Yeah it's not starting lightdm. You need to figure out why the lightdm service is failing to load06:14
histoAesthetic: sudo status lightdm06:14
histoAesthetic: and sudo start lightdm06:14
Aestheticsays stop/waiting06:14
Aestheticwhen i do status06:14
histoAesthetic: Okay start it06:14
histoAesthetic: How did this all start btw?06:15
Aestheticyeah...when i try that...it bounces me to the regular gui tty....06:15
Aestheticwhich is at the kernel boot screen06:15
a4gg4gaCan I get some help with ubuntu, I think I have an easy problem06:15
Aestheticshowing "checking battery state..."06:15
histoAesthetic: and it just sits there it never starts lightdm?06:15
Aestheticand underneaath that a shell script for a server app ive been using for years06:15
dwarda4gg4ga, ask away06:15
Aesthetichisto: correct06:15
histoAesthetic: sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm06:15
Aesthetichisto: ok....same thing it lets me just pick default display manager06:16
a4gg4gaI'm trying to install ubuntu from a USB. The OS i'm using right now is Ubuntu. Just want a fresh reinstall where ubuntu deletes this current OS and makes a new Ubuntu06:16
histoAesthetic: yeah pick lightdm and restart06:16
Aestheticyup...many times06:16
Aesthetichave even tried purge...and install06:16
a4gg4gaBut in start up disk creator and with the proper iso i'm getting An uncaught exception was raised:06:17
a4gg4ga[Errno 30] Read-only file system: '/media/PENDRIVE/.disk/base_installable'06:17
Aestheticagain...this is after i decided to purge/remove lightdm compiz unity, and reinstall them06:17
histoa4gg4ga: can you pastebin the output of mount06:17
a4gg4gaThis is the same USB i used to install ubuntu before btw06:17
histoAesthetic: is ubuntu-desktop installed?06:17
histoAesthetic: also are you still trying to use unity?06:17
histoa4gg4ga: open a terminal and type mount | pastebinit06:18
histoa4gg4ga: or just copy and paste the output of mount to paste.ubuntu.com06:18
a4gg4gaI can't tell what key makes the tall line in the command you typed06:19
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dwardhisto: does ubuntu desktop ship with pastebinit automatically?06:19
a4gg4gaoh right, sorry it's late lol06:19
roachany minecraft fans?06:19
a4gg4gaThe program 'pastebinit' can be found in the following packages:06:19
ANubdward: No, it does not06:19
a4gg4ga * pastebinit06:19
a4gg4ga * pastebinit06:19
a4gg4ganow what06:19
FloodBot1a4gg4ga: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.06:19
roachthe launcher i grabbed from their site isn't really working06:19
a4gg4gaDarn06:20
roachi can launch minecraft, but once i click log in the window goes black06:20
a4gg4gaAm I unmuted06:20
dr_willisroach:  i would start by launching it from the command line and seeing if it works.06:20
dwardroach: haven't tried that launcher, i usually use a vm or my windows boot.06:21
dwardroach, what are the errors?06:21
roachdr_jesus... will look into that06:21
dwardroach, any?06:21
nearsta4gg4ga, try with java -jar <minecraft.jar>06:21
roachdward, i don't see any errors06:21
dwardroach, are you using the latest launcher>06:21
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Aesthetichisto: my net went down...did you say anything?06:22
dwardrocah, i'm under the imperession that it was released relatively recently06:22
roachhttp://i.imgur.com/FdnNrMF.png06:22
a4gg4gaI guess i'll just try to install from a CD instead, thats really weird because I have the proper ISO and program to put it onto the USB that installed it before06:22
dwardroach, do you get anything at all?06:23
dwardroach the lauch screen to show up?06:23
roachyes, the launch screen does show up06:23
roachi can type in my username and password06:23
roachthis happens when i click login06:23
roach" try launching it with java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame"06:24
dr_willisso.. did you try it?06:26
roachyes, same thing happened :(06:26
roachhttp://pastebin.com/fZnEFJuy06:27
dwardare you using the opensource jre or oracle06:27
dward@roach06:27
roachoracle06:27
roach@dward06:28
Aesthetichisto?06:30
CallingPantheram I still here?06:31
CallingPantherGuess so06:31
Aestheticmy net went down so i may have missed any last thing you said06:33
Folorndoes anyone know a good tool to download for unzipping bzip files please and where to find it?06:33
Ben64Folorn: bzip206:34
CallingPantherwhat is the cli xchat package name?06:35
Folornshould be just xchat06:35
Folornatleast for debian distros06:35
serp_roach: are you on 64 bit ubuntu?06:35
Folornapt-get install xchat if thats what your asking :)06:36
Ben64uh... pretty sure the x in xchat is for X, so there is no cli version06:36
CallingPantheror is there a better cli IRC client that will work on say ubuntu 8.0406:36
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mgolischirssi?06:36
serp_CallingPanther: try weechat06:36
CallingPantheris it easy to use?06:36
serp_yes pretty easy06:37
serp_the major difference is that your mouse doesnt work06:37
dwardroach, are you still there? sorry, i'm studying a little. try to set your LD_LIBRARY_PATH06:37
serp_switch channels with alt+numbet06:37
CallingPanthermy laptop running 8.04 server has no mouse anyway06:38
CallingPantherunfortunately nothing higher will work on it06:38
vnc786i want remove gnome because i am trying xfce how do i remove completely gnome ?06:39
Aestheticugh....lightdm just wont start06:39
Aestheticwtf06:39
ttotiIs there anyway to hide the  unity bar when window is maximized?06:39
dr_willisirssi or weechat are the top text/console irc clients id say.06:40
elkyttoti, the side panel with the launchers?06:40
CallingPantherttoti: that is an excellent question06:40
dr_willisttoti:  it auto hides for me allready..06:40
dr_willisoh wait.. im thinking fullscreened06:40
dr_willis;)06:40
dr_willisnot quite the same.06:40
dwardroach, then  extract this LJGL to $HOME/.minecraft in a certain order06:40
ttotiYeah the side panel. It doesnt autohide for me06:41
ax562irssi rocks06:41
dwardroach, if you are still there and want me to tell you the order to setup those jars, respond06:41
Folornum whats the command to un-tar/unzip a file again i always forget its like tar -xcf something?06:41
dr_willisit should autohide for Fullscreened games and so forth.. maxamized. no it shouldent06:41
dr_willisthere is an auto-hide all the time option06:41
dr_willis!info unp06:41
ubottuunp (source: unp): unpack (almost) everything with one command. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0~pre7+nmu1 (quantal), package size 16 kB, installed size 133 kB06:41
dr_willisFolorn:  i tend to use 'unp'06:41
dwardroach, happy to but i don't want to waste the effort typing if you left06:41
elkyttoti, if you type appearance in the unity dash search, you'll get the Appearances thing, click that and there's a tab (which isn't obvious) that says behaviour. it's in there.06:41
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ax562@dr_w do you know if Im having trouble with my dvd drive during install and I get kicked to shell, can I mount ext-dvd drive and load install from there using shell?06:42
Folorndr_willis wont let me says something about being uncompatable06:42
ttotiOh sweet. Thanks elky. Got it :)06:43
Folornnope didn't work06:44
Folornany other ideas ?06:44
Folorngod bzip files suck :) oof06:44
CallingPantherhow do you install irissi in terminal06:45
Folornany other ideas for the command then would really help .....or links for untaring/ungziping06:45
CallingPanthertried apt-get install irissi said unable to locate06:45
Folornoof.. so close06:46
Folornno other ideas ?06:46
dr_willisyou use bunzip for bzip archives06:47
CallingPanthernever mind mispelled it06:47
dr_willis!archive06:47
Folornoof06:48
adashad an install problem and was wondering if someone could help?06:50
dr_willis#bunzip2 filename.txt.bz2 (where filename.txt.bz2 is the name of the file you wish to uncompress)06:50
Folornnm :)06:50
adashad an install problem and was wondering if someone could help?06:50
Folornno doc had to un tar/gz it first but then you run that afterwords to bzip right ?06:51
elkyadas, state what the problem is, we don't know if we can help until you tell us.06:51
CallingPantherok so now on irssi06:52
CallingPantherhow do you switch between channels again?06:53
adasmy dvd drive isn't working so well and is having trouble reading the 12.04 cd06:53
adasit loads for a minute then goes into sector read erro but kicks me to shell06:54
leptoneadas, you could try making a bootable usb drive06:54
elkyFolorn, any reason why 'tar -xvfj' (iirc) isn't enough?06:54
adasbios does not support06:54
adashas to be disk drive06:54
elkyadas, is this when running the install cd?06:55
adasmy question is, if its possible to mount external dvd drive from shell that ubuntu install kicks me to and load install from external06:55
adasyes06:55
elkyadas, and the cd was made on the slowest possible write speed setting?06:56
Folornive got it now06:56
Folornbut how ya install it lol06:56
adasso basically it boots up from internal disk drive (12.04 install cd) and just clunkers its way through a couple different screens, then read errors out to shell06:56
Folornafter its been un tared06:56
elkyFolorn, tar?06:56
elkyoh, what are you untarring?06:57
Folornyes06:57
Folornits un tared just dunno how to install after its been unarchived06:57
vnc786how do I remove completely gnome in ubuntu 12.04 64 bit ?06:57
elkyi missed the first part of your query earlier. i don't know what archive you just extracted06:57
Folornand its now a just a reg folder.. normally ive got a debian/package installer i just right click with elky06:57
elky"it" ?06:57
adas@elky i believed i used auto speed detect but not sure if I can change write speed06:57
adasusing linux k3b and some other burner app06:58
elkyadas, it won't go super slow unless you tell it to, nobody writing their music to cd wants to wait, and it doesn't matter for music files, but it does for linux isos06:59
elkyi can't say i've burned a cd in the past 3 years either i'm afraid, so i haven't a clue what to suggest06:59
elkymy latest laptop doesn't even have an optical drive :D07:00
adasi guess I can try..but I KNOW MY DRIVE DOESN'T WORK PROPERLY...so looking for work around07:00
adasso my real question is can I mount external and load from there once ubuntu errors out to sheLl?07:01
elkyadas, that depends entirely on how much it got through.07:02
elkyif it got as far as a full dash shell, probably. if it's a busybox shell, probably not.07:02
elkyadas, you could take the hdd out and connect it in or to another machine , install, then put the hdd back in the machine that lacks usb boot in bios07:03
___leaf___Hello, on 12.04. I'm using rkhunter. When I check rkhunter.log, it's empty even though I ran rkhunter recently, any suggestions please as to why this is happening?07:04
adasyeah, thats a lot of work, and I would have to buy hardware07:04
adasif im going that route id rather buy a new dvd drive07:05
adaswas wondering if anyone had some skills with the shell in install instances07:05
Aestheticugh...at least gdm works07:05
Aestheticwtf could have broken lightdm so much?07:05
adasmaybe not?07:07
adasthanks for the help07:11
adas107:11
brianblazegood evening beautiful people!07:11
DaDaDosPromptsHas anyone had any troubles with libvdpau when watching YouTube on Firefox in 12.04 lately?07:13
DaDaDosPromptsMine complains about the .so file for that library every time I open a YouTube page, dumping its complaint onto the STDOUT of a terminal I have open elsewhere (Firefox isn't being called from that terminal)07:13
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dwardAesthetic: when you use startx to start lightdm are you using sudo or regular07:18
dwardAesthetic: after boot, not that that is the issue. but what user are you using startx with07:18
imran2i need help with the scrolling issue07:19
DaDaDosPromptswelp, I figured out at least part of the problem07:20
DaDaDosPromptsmy instance of firefox had been created by a `fossil ui` call to an open fossil repo07:20
DaDaDosPromptswhich is why it was appearing on the STDOUT or STDERR of my terminal07:21
DaDaDosPromptshm07:21
imran2can any one help me fix the system wide scrolling issue , using the mouse wheel scroll?? button07:22
dwardimran2: is it a new issue? sounds like a problem with your driver07:23
dwardimran2, what type of mouse is it07:23
imran2canyon USB based07:23
imran2it scrolls07:24
imran2but not like how i would do in windows?07:24
dwardimran2, what do you mean07:25
imran2i cannot configure the no of lines i can scroll07:25
dwardimran2, not sure if that is implemented with ubuntu standard configs07:27
dwardimran2  it is probably dependent on the driver07:27
imran2no it is not possible07:28
imran2to use the genome based s07:28
imran2ubuntu provided mouse applet07:28
imran2the problem is that it causing me pain in my Carpal tunnel syndrome07:30
imran2such a problem is not found in Windows07:30
imran2or when i use windows07:30
oldude67how do i change from normal gdm in ubuntu to lubuntus lightdm?07:31
dwardoldude67, the normal display manager for ubuntu is lightdm07:32
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oldude67dward, then how do i kill the log on noise? when it boots? its loud/07:33
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dwardoldude67, you can use ubuntu-tweak07:35
dwardoldude67, http://ubuntu-tweak.com/downloads/07:36
dwardit's a tweak tool for unity07:36
oldude67dward, ill look into it. just thought there was away to kill the log on sound. just forgot the speakers were on and its late here...pives me off sometimes.07:36
dwardit has a gui with the option to turn off the login sound07:36
oldude67and unity is like windows 8 wont ever use it.07:38
oldude67if it wasnt for not putting /home on a seperate partition, id just redo the whole dang thing.07:39
dwardoldude67 okay i have a solution for you then07:39
oldude67dward, hold on im reading about the tweaks thanks for the info.07:40
dwardoldude67 you gotta find the greeter config file07:40
dwardoldude67 mine is here /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/com.canonical.unity-greeter.gschema.xml07:41
dwardbut you can find it with 'locate unity-greeter | grep xml'07:41
oldude67dward, ok, give me a sec. lets see what it has to say.07:41
dwardoldude67 near the end is the config for the sound07:42
dwardoldude67 just change true to false07:42
oldude67dward, thanks im about half way there...lol. old and tired.07:42
dwardoldude67 not super friendly but no need to get ubuntu-tweak07:42
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oldude67dward, k thanks, looking at both right now.07:43
dwardno problem. I like to keep my system clean too, so i avoid those extras if i can. ubuntu is all about making things eaiser though so....07:45
dwardeasier usually means gui07:45
toiletofwisdomhi all07:47
J2cloudi am too unregged07:47
J2cloudredded07:48
J2cloud...you know what07:48
dupwat07:48
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J2cloudHello everyone07:49
J2cloudIs anyonne awake?07:49
toiletofwisdomNah07:49
dwardeveryone died07:49
dupOnly slightly.07:49
J2cloudWell darn07:49
J2cloudWell, anyone around, I have an overscan issue on Ubuntu 12.1007:50
dupoverscan?07:50
J2cloudAnd I'm not sure how to fix it. I can't see the edges of  my screen connected via HDMI07:50
helmut_hi07:51
dupHi.07:52
dward@j2cloud is your resolution set to the correct mode07:52
J2cloudyes. 1920x108007:52
J2cloudNormally that would be an option in a graphics card control panel, but that's not in Ubuntu, and It won't let me use the Catalyst Control (Graphics card control panel) because it doesn't think i have an AMD driver installed07:53
J2cloudBut it is an AMD card07:53
dup!catalyst07:55
dwardj2clouad, are you pretty familiar with linux yet may i ask?07:55
dr_willisive seen that setting in the amd drivers on ubuntu.. but i found it easier to just turn off overscan on the tv/monitor07:55
dwardj2cloud, might be hacky, but you could def fix it with xrandr07:55
J2clouddr_willis: my monitor is actually a TV, and I have never been able to figure out why the computer controls are disabled07:56
J2clouddward: I would say i'm still very amateur07:56
dr_willismy tv - had settings in ITS menus to disable overscan. but its a fairly high end samsung07:56
dr_willisi was having to use the ati contol panel thing to tweak the res befor id found that setting07:57
dr_willisnow i dont need the ati config..07:57
J2cloudThere's the thing07:57
dr_willishelps on other pcs' and os's ive been using also with this tv07:57
J2cloudi can't even use the ati config07:57
J2cloudIt won;t let me run it because it says no card found or something07:58
dwardj2cloud do you have the fglrx-amdcccle package?07:58
J2cloudCatalyst Control Center?07:59
J2cloudI believe that's what the package was called07:59
J2cloudYes, but when i run it, i get this07:59
J2cloudThere was a problem initializing Catalyst Control Center Linux edition.  It could be caused by the following.07:59
J2cloudNo AMD graphics driver is installed, or the AMD driver is not functioning properly.07:59
J2cloudPlease install the AMD driver appropriate for you AMD hardware, or configure using aticonfig.07:59
J2cloudAnd when i do *that*, i get another error08:00
J2cloud"One or more tools required for installation cannot be found on the sustem."08:02
dwarddo you know what driver you are using?08:02
dward@j2cloud08:02
J2cloud"Gallium 0.4 on AMD ARUBA "08:03
dwardwhat is currently being used08:03
J2cloud^^08:03
dwardyou have a desktop display running?08:03
J2cloudYes08:03
J2cloudvia HDMI08:03
J2cloudThis is a laptop, if that helps08:04
dwardrun 'sudo lspci'08:04
J2cloudthe card in it is an AMD Radeon 7520G08:04
dwardfind your video card in that list08:04
J2cloudi ran lspci | grep VGA08:04
J2cloudGallium 0.4 on AMD ARUBA08:04
J2cloudoh08:04
J2cloudsorry08:04
* J2cloud Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Trinity [Radeon HD 7520G]08:04
FloodBot1J2cloud: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.08:04
J2cloudWhoops. my bad.08:05
dwardj2cloud first colum of that line is the slot number08:05
dwardj2cloud first colum of that line is the slot number08:06
J2cloud00:01.0?08:06
dwardrun 'sudo lspci -v -s 00:01.0' and it should say the kernel driver08:06
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dwardwhat is the kernel driver in use and kernel module08:07
J2cloudkernel driver is radeon08:07
J2cloudi don't see anything that says kernel module08:08
dwardhmm it is probably the same, to make sure run 'sudo lsmod | grep radeon'08:09
J2cloudhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/5564111/08:10
usuario__xD08:12
usuario__xD08:12
usuario__xD08:12
FloodBot1usuario__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.08:12
gipzoHi. I have Ubuntu server installed on USB flash-drive and I'm inserting it on different, but identical motherboards. And I have problem with network cards: first - sometimes it change network interface name (from eth0 to eth1, for example). And second - on some motherboards it doesn't detect network interface at all08:12
dwardj2cloud: i would try to reinstall the proprietary driver from the radeon website and see if that helps08:12
gipzoI tried to remove all lines in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules, but it doesn't help at all08:12
gipzoOn ifconfig -a i have lo and eth0 interface, which have mac address with FF:FF:FF:FF:FF:FF08:13
gipzobut lspci detects gigabit ethernet card08:13
___leaf___Hello, I'm trying to set logrotate to keep the last 4 copies of rkhunter log files. ie. rkhunter.log.1...rkhunter.log.2. Any help with this please?08:14
tarzeauhow can i remove/delete my launchpad account?08:15
dwardgipzo, is this booting from the live cd kernel or after installation08:18
gipzoNo, it's system on a flash drive, not live cd08:18
dwardtarzeau, you should probably check the launchpad website...08:19
gipzoI use http://people.ofset.org/~ckhung/p/mk-boot-usb/ for making flashes08:19
tarzeaudward: i did, and i couldn't find it08:20
dwardgipzo, but you are booting off of the usb kernel correct? you haven't installed ubuntu yet?08:20
gipzodward: I installed ubuntu on HDD, then I made bootable flash and copied everything to usb08:20
dwardtarzeau: https://help.launchpad.net/YourAccount/Closing08:20
dwardgoogle is your friend08:20
gipzodward: And everything working fine, except network interfaces08:20
tarzeaudward: ok found it, thanks08:20
neirpycAnyone else in here using Hexchat?08:21
J2cloudneirpyc: I use it.08:21
dwardgipzo, the kernel loaded from the installation iso's is a bit different than the kernel that is isntalled, different drivers, different packages, etc..08:22
dwardgipzo: the auto detect can be a bit wonky08:22
J2clouddward, trying to reinstall the drivers gives the error "One or more tools required for installation cannot be found on the system."08:22
neirpycJ2cloud, You wouldn't happen to know how to make it open channels after /nickserv ident would you?08:22
J2cloudlike, on startup?08:23
gipzodward: I have same hardware... and kernel is normal ubuntu 11.10 kernel08:23
dwardgipzo: is it causing a problem? see if it persists after installing the kernel08:23
J2cloudOr specifically after that command?08:23
gipzodward: But I'm not changing kernel08:23
neirpycJ2cloud, Yeah, I have it auto join a few rooms on connect, but one of the rooms never joins because it says I'm not identified yet. I have it set up to identify on join, though.08:23
dwardj2cloud, he is asking about irc chat commands08:23
dwardj2cloud, not your driver08:24
J2cloudi know08:24
gipzodward: I think the problem is in network drivers, but how could i find out which drivers i want?08:24
leptone_i cant get FoxVox to work. when i select text and "speak selected text" there is no sound. anyone know whats going on?08:24
neirpycAh, I didn't know you were in the middle of something! Please, ignore me for now. I'll fiddle with it a bit more. =)08:24
gipzoneed*08:24
dwardgipzo, yes, it's hard to diagnose this before an install though. the kernel is booted differently when it is booted differently when installed08:25
dwardgipzo, is your first box installed and one the rest installed?08:25
dwardgipzo, compat-drivers is the standard for drivers in the linux kernel08:26
gipzodward: I have same motherboards and same cpu's (http://www.msi.com/product/mb/H61I-E35--B3-.html)08:27
dwardgipzo they are usually auto detected08:27
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dwardgipzo yes but is ubuntu installed on one system, on both, or on neither?08:27
dwardgipzo, sorry about the typo a couple lines up08:28
leptone_does anyone know the text-to-speech add-on "FoxVox" for Firefox?08:29
dupI've not heard of it.08:30
gipzoI have 5 pc's with same hardware, I installed attached HDD on first pc, installed and configured ubuntu on it08:32
leptone_im looking for a good text-to-speech solution that allows me to highlight text in my browser and have that read. Does anyonee know of a good one?08:32
gipzothe copied this system to usb and inserted it in this pc08:32
gipzoand it works perfectly08:32
gipzobut when i insert it in other pc's i have troubles with network interfaces08:33
fatherplz , Unable to locate package armitage08:36
j0d3buenos días08:40
fatherhi08:44
fatherplz help :Unable to locate package08:45
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jimmy_lo_chien_fHi, I use ubuntu 12.10, when I try to connect to server via nautilus, I get message "Can't load the supported server method list. Please check your gvfs installation." in a dialog08:50
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jimmy_lo_chien_fI've followed directions on this page: http://askubuntu.com/questions/87335/nautilus-cannot-load-supported-server-method-list-please-check-your-gvfs-inst08:53
jimmy_lo_chien_fBut I still cannot connect to server.08:53
jimmy_lo_chien_fDo you know how to resolve this?08:55
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Kartagis!grub208:58
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub208:58
dup!lilo08:59
ubottulilo is an alternative [Li]nux Boot[Lo]ader. Note: it is recommended that you use GRUB on Ubuntu instead.08:59
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Plumblumhello, im having trouble adding php-zeroc-ice to my system, i should get an IcePHP.so in my php's extensions dir09:08
Plumblumbut i have no clue on where zeroc-ice gets installed when apt-get etc etc09:09
dysunHi all. Hoping one of you guys can help. I'm trying to get vlan tagged traffic from GNS3 out to my switch, but i think the interface that it's connected to ( on the Linux machine) keeps dropping it. I've already modified the MTU from 1500 to 2000, and the dropped packet count keeps on increasing every 2 seconds by 1209:10
dysunis there a way to get the traffic through?09:10
superdohi, any hint how to compile krusader latest beta?09:11
ikoniasuperdo: what hint do you need ?09:13
ikoniasuperdo: what's not working ?09:13
superdobeta1 has a bug, but beta 3 doesnt09:13
superdobut beta3 is not in deb package09:13
azi`is there a way to install ubuntu with xfce from the start? other than using xubuntu?09:14
auronandace!mini | azi`09:14
ubottuazi`: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD09:14
BourneSo If I'm trying to install ubuntu 12.04 LTS09:15
Bourneand the screen goes dark as soon as I start the install09:16
Bourneproblem with my graphics card?09:16
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dadanf09:16
dadanquit09:17
ace_How can I upgrade from 10.1009:19
ace_to 12.0409:20
ace_upgrade to 11.04 failed09:20
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dwardace, why did it fail?09:24
pznusing 12.10, if I do this: "setxkbmap -model thinkpad60 -layout br" by keyboard starts working OK. after hibernate-restore, the keyboard is lost and I need to execute the command again... how to fix this? thanks in advance09:25
Kartagishow long would sudo mkfs.ntfs -q /dev/sdf1 take for a 3TB disk?09:27
acelitemnhello09:28
dwardpzn do you want to make the change permanent09:28
dward?09:28
dwardpzn to make a permanent change you could run sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration09:29
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dwardpzn then sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup09:30
dwardkartagis, depends on the hardware, could take a very long time09:31
dwardkartagis, but shouldn't take more than 5 minutes.09:33
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dwardmore like 2 minutes i would guess, but the speed could be increased with configuration kartagis09:33
azbarceahi everyone ...09:33
azbarceaany idea why if [ "some-tmp" == "*tmp" ] ; then echo x; else echo y; fi prints "y" in Ubuntu,  and not "x"?09:34
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Kartagisdward: before, I did it without -q and it took 1375 minutes. now I did with -q and I had to break at 43 minutes09:34
dwardazbarecea read up on test, run 'man test', you are matching two strings and "some-tmp" != "*tmp"09:36
dwardkartagis, that seems a bit excessive09:36
dwardkartagis, but i think i may have underestimated come to think of it.09:38
dwardkartagis you could set a stripe size to make it run quicker and set the inetrnal and lazy-count variables09:39
azbarceadward: thx, but in other distro it uses the regexp having *?. as special chars ...09:39
dwardthose cause a delay between writting the inode tables (default is close to 2 seconds)09:39
lordcyferHello everybody i would like to know if someone did an auto-install cd/dvd of Ubuntu 12.04 desktop using presseed ? My final target is to do the full auto install without network.09:40
Kartagisdward: stripe size? how do I set that?09:41
llutzazbarcea: single square brackets don't use regesps09:41
llutzregexps*09:41
Kartagisdward: apparently I completely misread man page. it was -f for quick, not -q09:43
dwardkartagis, to use regexp with test do this09:44
alvesjnrhi al. I'm tired of losing 1G RAM for chrome. Which browser you suggest me to try?09:44
dwardif [[ "some-tmp" == *"tmp" ]]09:44
dwardthat would be the proper bash09:44
azi`auronandace: thanks! So I should use the minimal CD and then select my preferred window manager?09:44
dwardkartagis, sorry wrong person09:45
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dwardkartagis, okay let me know if that speeds things up, if not, i could help you with stripe size09:45
seamus_I run Lubuntu 12.04,  wish to install Dr. Racket, so I went to the site and got the file--- it's a .sh file. So I tried to run it and it stopped and gave me the following which leaves me stuck. /usr/racket-tmp-install/bin/racket: 1: /usr/racket-tmp-install/bin/racket: Syntax error: "(" unexpected09:46
seamus_Error: installation failed09:46
Kartagisdward: now it took 7 seconds09:46
dwardkartagis, that's more like it09:46
dwardazbarcea: if [[ "some-tmp" == *"tmp" ]]09:46
dwardazbarcea: would be the correct bash09:46
dwardazbarcea: i don't think that varies between distrobutions09:47
akelaexit09:52
rowHey guys. Adobe illustrator work in ubuntu 12.10 ?09:52
caput_draconismaybe using some wine trickery, and also depending on the version...09:53
caput_draconisunless of a very specific reason try inkscape09:54
dwardrow: check winehq09:55
dwardrow: i know older versions work okay09:55
histo!appdb | row09:57
ubotturow: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help09:57
XPhow to fix this code to split this into two strings, before "on", and after. http://pastebin.com/DAyKy4zT ...10:00
XPhow to fix this code to split this into two strings, before "on", and after. http://pastebin.com/DAyKy4zT ...  anyone?10:01
lordcyferHello nobody can help me ??10:02
lordcyferHello everybody i would like to know if someone did an auto-install cd/dvd of Ubuntu 12.04 desktop using presseed ? My final target is to do the full auto install without network.10:02
llutzXP: ##c  exists10:02
histolordcyfer: I don't completely understand your question.10:03
burtoniumllutz: if you can't help, keep your useless comment for yourself10:03
llutz!ot | burtonium10:04
ubottuburtonium: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!10:04
lordcyferI need to do an auto install cd or dvd to install an ubuntu 12.04 with the ubuntu-desktop environments and other tools10:04
burtonium!ot|llutz10:04
ubottullutz: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!10:04
lordcyferbut my install is doing an error at the end10:06
histolordcyfer: unattended install10:06
[Linux]Horsthow do i check which fonts are set for sans, serif and sans serif?10:06
llutz!pm | burtonium10:06
ubottuburtonium: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first.10:06
lordcyferso histo ?10:07
histolordcyfer: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/unattended-ubuntu-installations-made-easy.html here's a howto for ya10:07
llutzburtonium: stop PMing me, i don't read those10:07
burtoniumllutz: i don't need your help, i just appologized, for missunderstanding ;)10:08
lordcyferThis how to is the worst one of all i found10:08
lordcyfermy problem is the fact the i don't want to install without the network10:08
lordcyferDoes not matter10:08
lordcyferi'll find10:08
daughainMOrning, all.10:08
dupgmorn10:09
histo!install | lordcyfer10:09
ubottulordcyfer: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - Don't want to use a CD? See http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate10:09
daughainExactly what is going on when I get:sudo: unable to resolve host Antiquities-Mobi10:09
histo!automate10:09
ubottuWays to automate installation of Ubuntu on multiple machines are described at https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/i386/appendix-preseed.html - See also !cloning10:09
histolordcyfer: ^^^^^10:09
lordcyferI know it by heart already10:10
lordcyferit is ok10:12
lordcyferi found my problem was the base system10:12
histolordcyfer: You do not need network to install. I'm not sure what your question is again10:13
lordcyfer My final target is to do the full auto install without network.  <<< from my 1st and second question10:13
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acelitemnhello what is best free dynamic ip updater?10:16
caput_draconisfew choices lately, prob no-ip10:16
acelitemnty10:17
histolordcyfer: You don't need network if you are using a cd10:17
histo!best | acelitemn10:17
ubottuacelitemn: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.10:17
acelitemnim using dyndns its not free :(10:17
lordcyferhis to did you try ?10:17
histolordcyfer: I've installed ubuntu without network plenty of times.10:18
lordcyferso something is missing in my pressed file10:18
histolordcyfer: I have not tried using a method that you are.10:19
histolordcyfer: is there a reason your not just cloning?10:19
lordcyferYes10:19
lordcyferI will have lot of differents machines10:19
lordcyferall around the world10:19
lordcyferWe had a discussion with my team about that10:20
histolordcyfer: are you going to hand out your cd's then? You could just hand out an image10:21
lordcyferforget his to10:22
lordcyferi know what i am doing and why10:22
histolordcyfer: okay the prehaps you can explain the error you are getting and when?10:23
histolordcyfer: are you selecting a package that is not present on the cd?10:24
lordcyferd-i base-installer/install-recommends boolean true10:25
lordcyferd-i base-installer/kernel/image string linux-generic openssh10:25
lordcyferI just install that10:25
histolordcyfer: did you see the section about disabling network completely?10:26
lordcyferyes10:26
lordcyferi did10:26
histo#d-i netcfg/enable boolean false10:27
histolordcyfer: what is your set to?10:27
histodidyou uncomment it?10:27
lordcyferfor sure10:27
lordcyferlol10:27
histocant you paste your config please10:27
lordcyfer2 min10:28
histolordcyfer: pate.ubuntu.com10:28
lordcyferneed coffeee10:28
histolordcyfer: sorry paste.ubuntu.com10:28
daughainUbuntu pate.......hmmm10:28
histolol10:31
lordcyferIt's ok it work10:33
lordcyferNow i'll add a local apt repo10:34
lordcyferGuys10:35
lordcyfera question10:35
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lordcyferif you need a set of dpkg10:35
lordcyferand all the dependancies10:35
lordcyferfrom a very minimal install how would you do ?10:35
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daughain<----n00b10:36
daughainI just ask questions..10:36
icirausIf no one asked questions there would be no answers.. :)10:37
histo!cloning | lordcyfer10:37
ubottulordcyfer: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « aptitude  --display-format '%p' search '?installed!?automatic' > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < my-packages ; sudo aptitude install » (this may cause problems with multiarch before 12.10) - See also !automate10:37
lordcyferGuys Thanks a lot10:37
daughainiciraus, True, but I have no answers yet, which is kinda a problem.10:38
histodaughain: what were you doing when you received that error?10:38
daughainTrying to edit fstab.10:38
daughainhisto, sudo gedit /etc/fstab10:38
k1l_dont use sudo for grafical programs10:39
k1l_use gksudo instead10:39
sddhrthrthey i have trouble using usb_modprobe10:39
daughainYeah......kil_, I dont kn ow emnough commands to do that.10:40
neirpycAs what I would consider pretty hardcore Ubuntu users, what FTP client do you recommend?10:40
histodaughain: well you should be using gksudo with graphical apps for one. For two you shouldn't be receiving an error about a URL not resolving whiel editing a file.10:41
histo!details | sddhrthrt10:42
ubottusddhrthrt: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."10:42
daughainhisto, Thats the confusion that sent me here. :)10:42
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daughainthe other issue I get is; No protocol specified10:43
daughainCannot open display:10:43
histodaughain: gksu gedit /etc/fstab and paste.ubuntu.com the output10:43
daughainthen back to prompt. Ok.10:43
histodaughain: did you recently change your hostname?10:43
daughainI did it temporarily earlier to try something, but I didnt make it a permanent change.10:44
daughainhisto, Just says Cannot open display10:45
histodaughain: okay that's why sudo is broken10:45
histo!hostname | daughain10:45
ubottudaughain: Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hosts to include BOTH the old and new hostname and then change /etc/hostname to the new one. WARNING! Make sure that your current hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly.10:45
daughainI need to reboot?10:45
histodaughain: Or you could change it back10:45
histodaughain: the important part is that hostname matches /etc/hosts10:46
Dii_PundiihHi. I have a question about the lxpanel, i run lubuntu 12.04.. I run two monitors in twinview with nvidas drivers 304 and it is like the desktop is a long stretched one even if, if i maximize a window it maximize to fill only one monitor.. the left namely. i would like to know if this is how it is in twinwiew.. or if one could make it so somehow that it can maximize in right monitor also and that there is seperated lxpanels for both monitors.. i have trie10:46
daughainFar as I can tell, it *should* be back. Command hostname shows what it was before I did the temp change.10:46
histodaughain: what does cat /etc/hosts   show?10:47
daughainCat shows the correct machine name10:47
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histodaughain: hrm...10:48
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daughainI made no changes to /etc/hosts or /etc/hostname10:48
histodaughain: you said you did earlier how did you revert them?10:49
daughainsimply sudo hostname <newhost>10:49
histodaughain: and how did you change it back?10:49
daughainI closed that terminal event and reopened a new one./10:49
histodaughain: so sudo doesn't work with any application?10:50
daughainAs far as I can tell, I dont use it often, honestly.10:51
daughainhisto, Everything I have tried it with has failed.10:52
burtoniumwhat if you change hostname file in /etc/10:53
LynxHello!10:53
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daughainburtonium, As in make a permanent change and see if it works?10:53
daughainMonring, Lynx10:54
burtoniumdaughain: i needed to change hostname on my netbook last night. I just did: sudo nano /etc/hostname and changed the name. And it worked.10:54
daughainburtonium, I cannot use sudo currently, the problem appears to be the fact that I used sudo hostname <newhost> last night to test something.10:55
burtoniumohhhhh10:56
burtoniumdaugh: can you get root privileges by sudo -s?10:56
daughainI used that command, because I thought it would allow for a temporary change.10:56
daughainburtonium, How do I use that?10:56
burtoniumjust type in terminal10:57
burtoniumsudo -s10:57
burtoniumand you should be looged in as root10:57
daughainYes, that worked.10:57
k1l_histo: using sudo with gui programs will break the rights of the folders and files10:57
k1l_i would recommend "sudo -i"10:57
k1l_(instead of -s)10:57
daughainWhats the difference?10:57
k1l_-i sets the enviroment variables right10:58
daughainThat worked too.10:58
burtoniumcan you now change hostname?10:59
burtoniumor can you now open /etc/hostname for editing?10:59
daughainburtonium, I dont *want* to change hostname. It honestly begins to look like I need to reboot to undo the temp change I tried to make.11:00
daughainburtonium, Going to try opening fstab, yes.11:00
daughainStill wont open, and has the same errors.11:00
daughainEven running as root.11:00
demoniohi all, for connect to a wep AP how can i use the iwconfig command? I issue this iwconfig interface essid "name_AP" key keyAP, but it doesn't work11:01
k1l_which errors? daughain11:01
daughainkil_, No protocol specified11:01
daughainNo protocol specified11:01
daughainCannot open display:11:01
daughainAnd a message to check the man page.11:02
k1l_daughain: reboot11:03
daughainlol11:03
k1l_daughain: oh wait11:03
daughainActually, I thin k thats what I need to do.11:04
k1l_open a terminal and type: "ls -al ~/.ICEAuthority"11:04
daughainkil_, A new instance of term, or the one I already have open?11:04
k1l_doesnt matter11:05
daughainkil_, ls: cannot access /root/.ICEauthority: No such file or directory11:06
patcHi, how can I list all dm-xx devices? I got one that triggers messages like this "lost page write due to I/O error on dm-11"... so how to know "what" is dm-11?11:06
k1l_daughain: no, not a s root11:06
k1l_daughain: dont run everything as root. that will cause you alot of problems11:07
daughainActually, I thought I had exited out of root when I ran it at first.11:08
daughainkil_, -rw------- 1 daughain daughain 5600 Feb 24 19:53 /home/daughain/.ICEauthority11:08
swordsmanziv got a problem were ubuntu won't  map my second display, any ideas ?11:08
k1l_daughain: hmm, that is ok11:08
daughainYeah, let me try a reboot, and see what happens.11:09
k1l_daughain: i would recommend to not stay logged in as root user11:09
daughainI usually dont, I just use sudo when needed.11:09
daughainI didnt even know I how to run as root till you told me how. :P11:11
Lynxxhello i'm on ubuntu 12.10 ... i am having problems with grep hanging with everything.. doesnt seem to matter what option i use it hangs and only ctrl x or c allows me to exit . whats going on?11:17
patcNoone about these dm-devices?11:17
GoGirlhi11:18
daughainSo far a reboot seems to have solved my issue.....11:18
packetfroghihi11:20
k1l_daughain: now just dont write sudo in front of all commands :)11:21
daughainBut its so much fun....11:21
k1l_:/11:22
daughainThat was sarcasm, kil_11:22
daughainbrb11:23
GoGirlI installed Ubuntu 12.10 on HP Compaq nx6125, and since then my wifi connection doesnt work. Does anyone know how could I solve the problem, because  no metter what I try it still doesnt work. Also: one of errors was: Module b43 does not exist11:24
packetfroggogirl http://askubuntu.com/questions/63648/how-do-i-install-this-patched-b43-driver11:25
GoGirlpacketfrog I will try that tnx..11:26
packetfrogyou need a driver for your wireless card that works11:26
Bitvilaghi everyone11:28
packetfroghi11:28
Bitvilagi have a question about q67 intel motherboard with ubuntu?!11:28
packetfrogok11:28
Bitvilagdoes anyone know anything about q67 chipset?11:28
packetfroggoogle does  whats wrong?11:28
Bitvilaglol google does not help haha11:28
packetfrogwhat is the problem11:29
Bitvilagi cant seem find any info about its remote management capabilities11:29
Bitvilagand if its good enough for an ubuntu server ... for website11:29
packetfrogBitvilag http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Active_Management_Technology11:30
packetfroggoogle knows all11:31
Bitvilagi tried for an hour i am not sure why i did not end up here11:31
Lynxxcan i safely uninstall and reinstall grep?11:32
packetfrogI copy pasted your item name and clicked two things...11:32
Lynxxi think installing an eggdrop screwed it up11:32
packetfrognot complaining though11:32
TecHSpecHi everyone! On the Device page for Ubuntu, there is a text that says "and access to remote Windows apps over protocols from Microsoft, Citrix, Wyse and VMWare",  How does this work? If i understand corectly, i will remote connect to an windows aplication running on a server. But lets say i am using Photoshop on this windows server, and remotely viewing the program in Ubuntu.. Is it possible to save and open the files on my  ubuntu d11:32
zxxandxxzciao belli11:33
[HUN]Bitvilagdammn i got disconnected11:33
zxxandxxzhi11:33
Lynxxdoesnt seem like anyone is helping  today11:33
packetfrogwhats the problem11:34
zlatanhi, when I try to shutdown ubuntu it just hangs at ubuntu logo running those dots :)11:34
packetfrogLynxx sudo apt-get -f install grep11:34
[HUN]Bitvilagpacketfrog -- did it say that q67 chipset has this feature11:35
packetfrogzlatan http://askubuntu.com/questions/132143/stuck-on-reboot-and-shutdown11:35
packetfrogbit  Yes it did11:35
packetfrogBit i googled the board   got to intel spec sheet   googled the feature you wanted...11:36
[HUN]Bitvilagoh i c11:37
packetfrogJust google the board name and intel11:37
[HUN]Bitvilagi still dont get how this thing works11:37
TecHSpecpacketfrog, you are amazing! you answer everything here! =) do you know anything about "remote Windows apps over protocols from Microsoft, Citrix, Wyse and VMWare"  into ubuntu?11:37
[HUN]Bitvilaglike does it run a webserver at all times ??!!11:37
Lynxxwell i cleaned up stuff, tried reinstalling11:37
Lynxxgrep still hangs11:38
packetfrogTecHSpec Not personally  I can google it though11:38
Lynxxunless i do grep -r11:38
Lynxxbut 'grep (searchstring)' causes it to hang11:38
packetfrogBit you have to read the wiki  I wouldnt pay for it though11:38
packetfrogLynxx one sec11:38
[HUN]Bitvilagi c thanks for the info11:38
[HUN]Bitvilagi am reading it right now11:38
TecHSpecpacketfrog google i can do my self =) But thanks anyway =)11:39
packetfrogLynxx BRB11:41
Lynxxok11:41
packetfrogLynxx ? sudo apt-get remove grep    DO NOT REBOOT DIRECTLY DO A     sudo apt-get install grep11:43
packetfrogI just tested and I am still stable :)11:43
Lynxxok11:44
Bitvilagtested what?11:45
packetfrogsomething for lynx11:45
Bitvilagoh ok11:45
packetfrogremoving grep and reinstalling11:45
Bitvilagits possible?:P11:45
Lynxxwell i reistalled still hangs11:45
Lynxxmaybe i was thinking of pgrep11:45
daughainSo much for that....11:45
minashi. My terminal (gnome-terminal) sometimes displays text like this: http://i49.tinypic.com/biv1ig.jpg Any ideas why?11:45
packetfrogdaug  whats wrong11:45
Lynxxoh well i might figure it out sometime11:46
daughainTrying to sync my box.com acct in 12.04, followed the directions on liberiangeek.net, and it doesnt work.11:46
packetfrogLynxx i think you are using it wrong11:46
Lynxxpossibly11:47
Lynxxbecause i just used pgrep and it returned what i was looking for11:47
Lynxxi was doing 'grep filename'11:47
packetfrogdaughain http://askubuntu.com/questions/237529/how-can-i-use-box-com-to-sync-my-home-directory-across-machines11:47
packetfroggrep just parses out the stuff you want11:48
BluesKajHey all11:48
packetfrogso it would hang11:48
daughainI'll try that now...11:48
packetfroghello11:48
daughainThanks.11:48
k1l_Lynxx: you are using grep the right way?11:48
Lynxxi am?11:49
k1l_Lynxx: i think you are missing the search string11:49
Jimi_NeutralHi Guys, I used Ubuntu a while back now and I just wanted to know, how is gaming with Ubuntu now?11:49
packetfroghe was just using the wrong command and got worried.11:49
ActionParsnipJimi_Neutral: depends on the game11:49
Lynxxwhich would be11:49
packetfrogjimi it is great  we have steam now11:49
Jimi_Neutralwithout Steam11:50
ActionParsnipJimi_Neutral: its a lot better than it was, I play Urban terror and penumbra :)11:50
ActionParsnipJimi_Neutral: the humble bundles are decent as well11:50
Jimi_NeutralWHat about things like call of duty, baldurs gate, the new sim city and so on11:50
ActionParsnipJimi_Neutral: check the wine appdb to see how they run11:51
toxboiHi all, I recently got a HP Envy 4-1020ea laptop and installed Ubuntu 12.04 on it. Everything is working perfectly except hibernation. When I rum pm-hibernate, the system turns off but nothing is restored upon resuming. Any help will be highly appreciated. Thanks!11:51
ActionParsnipJimi_Neutral: also check the same for cedega and crossover office11:51
ActionParsniptoxboi: are there any bugs reported?11:51
toxboiActionParsnip: none that I can find.11:52
Jimi_Neutralcedega and crossover office?11:52
ActionParsnipJimi_Neutral: yes11:52
ActionParsniptoxboi: do you have the latest updates and bios?11:52
Lynxxyeah i think i confused pgrep and grep.. thanks folks11:52
Jimi_NeutralWhat is that? As I said, was a long time ago :)11:52
ActionParsnipJimi_Neutral: the web will tell you far more than I can on here11:52
Jimi_Neutralok ty11:52
BluesKajtoxboi, hope your swap partitipn is as large as your RAM , or greater11:54
ActionParsniptoxboi: what is the output of:  free -m       please use a pastebin to host the output. Thanks11:55
ActionParsnipBluesKaj: nice catch11:55
BluesKajhey ActionParsnip , and it's early here11:56
toxboiBluesKaj: Yes, it is.11:57
histotoxboi: How big is your swap?11:57
histotoxboi: compared to RAM11:57
histoand how much of it is in use prior to hibernating11:57
toxboihisto: Swap: 20G, RAM: 16G11:57
toxboiis that an issue?11:58
histotoxboi: when the system is running prior to pm-hybernate or whatever type in free and see how much swap is being used11:58
CommaCrazyhi all11:58
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CommaCrazyhi all, I have a bit of a problem, on a (stupid) Ubuntu desktop on of my colleagues managed to corrupt an .ods file11:58
CommaCrazyand by rebooting the machine11:59
CommaCrazys there a way that I can recover that file11:59
toxboihisto: ah, right. I don't know that as laptop is at home. I shall look into it later today and get back to you.11:59
CommaCrazy??11:59
toxboithanks histo, ActionParsnip and BluesKaj. Cheers guys!11:59
histo!undelete | CommaCrazy12:00
ubottuCommaCrazy: Some tools to recover lost data are listed and explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery - Recovering deleted files on !ext3 filesystems can be virtually impossible, although methods that might work is some cases are described at at http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlo17/howto/undelete_ext3.html and http://projects.izzysoft.de/trac/ext3undel12:00
Jimi_NeutralOk thanks guys12:03
Jimi_NeutralOne more thing12:03
Jimi_NeutralI seem to have an issue finding iTunes after installing Playonlinux. Anyone know if it is even available any more. Cant find anything pertaining to that on the internet.12:04
Dra|ncan i install pear from apt=get?12:04
ActionParsnipJimi_Neutral: appdb again dude. I don't believe it works12:04
ActionParsnip!find pear12:04
ubottuFound: debpear, libghc-shakespeare-css-dev, libghc-shakespeare-css-doc, libghc-shakespeare-css-prof, libghc-shakespeare-dev, libghc-shakespeare-doc, libghc-shakespeare-i18n-dev, libghc-shakespeare-i18n-doc, libghc-shakespeare-i18n-prof, libghc-shakespeare-js-dev (and 16 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=pear&searchon=names&suite=quantal&section=all12:04
histoDra|n: I think it's php5-pear or something like that12:05
Jimi_NeutralOdd, I have seen tonnes of tuts for it and seen them working in videos.12:05
ActionParsnipDra|n: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PhpPear  that?12:05
Dra|nActionParsnip, i think, its for install drush ?12:05
Dra|nActionParsnip, yes thanks!12:06
Jimi_Neutralyeah loads of entrys on wine12:08
safridzalhi, i'd like to ask, if i already have / and /home partition, and I want to make another ext4 on my disk as "music partition", how to make that partition writeable by me (not root)?? is that possible?12:10
ActionParsnipsafridzal: add it in /etc/fstab and you can specify the access you want12:11
histosafridzal: rw access when you mount it in fstab. Or on cli. Also are you sure you need another partition?12:11
histosafridzal: You can just create a folder.12:11
safridzalActionParsnip: histo: ahh, so that's all i need to add as option? the "rw" ?? because i only add nodev and no*i forgot12:12
ActionParsnipsafridzal: add it in fstab and it will mount at boot12:13
histo!mount | safridzal Also if you are running debian you should ask in #ubuntu12:14
ubottusafridzal Also if you are running debian you should ask in #ubuntu: mount is used to attach devices to directories. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount12:14
histosafridzal: sorry meant ask in #debian but either way12:15
heraclitishttp://i.imgur.com/3XBoOz4.jpg12:15
safridzalhisto: yea, i know that, but i dont like debian channel, i prefer here.. :D (and so i think its better if i'm not saying im using debian here)12:15
safridzalhehe12:15
histosafridzal: well you also asked in #linux12:16
dwardheracltis: cableporn12:16
dward@heraclitis12:16
safridzalokay2, i've found the fstab and mpunt manual, reading it now :D12:16
sogeking99Hey guys, if I get kubuntu-desktop will it remove unity? Or and I have them both.12:16
safridzalthanks12:16
ActionParsnipsafridzal: if you are using debian then your support is not here12:16
ActionParsnipsogeking99: you will have both Gnome and KDE12:17
ActionParsnipsogeking99: you will get the choice at login time12:17
francisHi people12:17
sogeking99Okay thanks ActionParsnip anyway I can try out cinnamon? Or does that require mint?12:17
demoniohi all, i have a wifi with open key, so i type iwconfig wlan0 essid "essid_my_network", thene i issue dhclient wlan0 but it doesn't seem work12:17
ActionParsnipsogeking99: there is a PPA you can use12:17
ActionParsnipsogeking99: the support for Cinammon is in the mint channels12:18
sogeking99Okay thanks12:18
heraclitislol dward12:18
ActionParsnipdemonio: is it a server install?12:18
demonioActionParsnip no no i want just to connect my ubuntu to my wifi12:19
dwardheraclitis that is where you got that picture right? reddit?12:19
ActionParsnipdemonio: why not use the icon in the top right hand corner?12:19
heraclitisyup, it was actually under "beautiful server" but yeah, it's awesome12:20
demonioActionParsnip i'm running a guide for make this by terminal12:20
histosafridzal: did you try mounting it and did you have write issues?12:21
ActionParsniptoxboi: http://askubuntu.com/questions/86283/wake-up-from-sleep-on-hp-envy-14   found that, check if its applicable and try it :)12:21
anuspenetratorhallo12:21
anuspenetratorik heb een harige anus12:21
dwardheraclitis i guess it was on r/pics too, there is an entire subreddit called r/cableporn though if you arent familiar. http://cableporn.reddit.com12:22
dwardcheck it out12:22
nipplez1ActionParsnip, how's it going?12:23
ActionParsnipnipplez1: not bad :)12:23
nipplez1remember you helped me installing Ubuntu once?12:24
Jimi_NeutralYa know, Action...I am sure you are the one that helped me a few years ago with a few things. Been on here a long time lol12:24
Jimi_Neutralhahahah and theres someone else!12:24
ActionParsnipnipplez1: I've drank and slept since then12:24
histoJimi_Neutral: There are plenty of people that have been on here for years12:24
ActionParsnipJimi_Neutral: been using Ubuntu since 7.04, so will have been around for a lot of stuff :)12:24
ActionParsnipJimi_Neutral: and Linux as a whole since 200112:25
histoI've been using ubuntu since the beginning.12:25
Fuzzleswho actually likes unity?12:25
dwardno one12:25
histo!polls | Fuzzles12:25
ubottuFuzzles: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.12:25
CookieMme12:26
ActionParsnipFuzzles: its ok, its not great but not as bad as people make out imho12:26
histoIt's growing on me.12:26
FuzzlesActionParsnip, what de you like?12:26
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ActionParsnipFuzzles: none, i just use fluxbox now12:26
ActionParsnipFuzzles: fluxbox + xcompmgr + docky :)12:27
dwardfluxbox is great12:27
histoFuzzles: I like the dash and for me it really doesn't matter which DE i'm in as I use the keyboard a lot. So I configure it so I barely use the touchpad on my laptop.12:27
Guest68923Can anybody tell me which package contains chattr? I though it was e2fslibs which I have installed but there is no chattr !12:27
DJones!find chattr12:27
heraclitis@ dward that's awesome, I bookmarked that page12:27
ubottuFile chattr found in cpmtools, e2fsprogs, e2fsprogs-dbg, kdepimlibs5-dev, manpages-fr-extra, manpages-hu, manpages-ja, manpages-pl, manpages-tr, manpages-zh (and 1 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=chattr&mode=&suite=quantal&arch=any12:27
ActionParsnipGuest68923: run:   dpkg -S chattr12:27
ActionParsnipGuest68923: your OS can tell you :)12:28
DJonesGuest68923: See the info from ubottu above12:28
histoGuest68923: also you can usally find at the bottom of the man page if it's part of another package12:28
ActionParsnipGuest68923: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5564564/12:29
yownI want to use shred, or some other overwrite program on a USB flash drive. I was told that the drive should be unmounted to be safe, is this true? Well if it is, then I am having a problem, since I can't seem to just unmount it, every attempt has resulted in it being not seen by the OS at all12:29
histoyown: sudo umount /path/to/mount/point12:30
yownhisto Then it loses the drive12:30
ActionParsnipyown: could use dd as well, same bag. You will still be able to access it as a block device using sudo12:30
Guest68923OK I found it :) It was in the e2fsprogs package. Now it's working thanks.12:30
ActionParsnipyown: you can then repartition and reuse the device12:30
dwardyown: delete the file, unmount then run zerofree /dev/FLASHDRIVE12:31
yownActionParsnip: dd is another version of shred?12:31
ActionParsnipyown: you can writes 0s from the start of teh device to the end12:31
yowndward I can't run anything on a drive that isn't seen12:31
kryptois it possible to enable ksmtuned on ubuntu, i am not able to see that service on ubuntu12:31
histoyown: If you unmount it it will lose control of the drive yes12:31
dwardyown: or you can not unmount and run 'dd if=/dev/null of=/where/ever/flashdrive/is/mounted12:31
histoyown: dd != shred but you can overwrite with it.12:32
histodward: That doesn't work12:32
iknofailfuguys, if system can't see partitions but it is possible to add them and mount with `addpart`, is there any way i could fix the partition table? i've read manpages for fdisk, cfdisk, sfdisk but i suspect i just don't get it hah12:32
dwardyown it will be somewhere in /dev/12:32
ActionParsnipdward: you don't use dd on mount points12:32
histodward: /dev/null != /dev/zero or /dev/random12:32
ActionParsnipyown: sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/blockdevice12:32
yownhisto "dd != shred but you can overwrite with it." I didn't quit fully understand that12:32
histoyown: ^^^^ also add bs=1M12:32
dwardhisto: /dev/zero exactly what i meant my bad12:32
ActionParsnipyown: be very sure of the device so that you zero the right device, otherwise dd with stand for (d)ata (d)estroyer12:33
yownSo is it a issue/risk to run shred on a mounted drive?12:33
yownis DD just as good as shred for removing data residue?12:33
ActionParsnipyown: i don't think it will even run, it will be marked as busy12:33
histoyown: I was saying dd doesn't equal shred. Although you can easily overwrite with dd.12:34
dwardActionParsnip why not use dd if the flash drive is mounted?12:34
ActionParsnipyown: yes it will go from end to end, zeroing out the storage12:34
histoyown: shred does the same thing although it overwrite multiple times because there are some freaks out there that believe that data can be recovered after being overwritten.12:34
ActionParsnipdward: It will destroy the FAT as well, might confuse the OS12:34
iknofailfuyown, take a look at bcwipe propietary tool, but if it is flash memory and your goal is to erase it securely, writing zeroes with dd is not the best option, /dev/urandom at least12:34
ActionParsnipiknofailfu: what is wrong with dd?12:34
iknofailfuActionParsnip, nothing wrong with dd, but flash memory requires several cycles12:35
histoyown: iknofailfu is aparently one of those freaks that believes it can be recovered after being overwritten12:35
iknofailfuto be erased securely12:35
yowniknofailfu: Why is writting zeroes to it not a good option?12:35
histoiknofailfu: That's not true12:35
ActionParsnipiknofailfu: a single wipe is just as secure as 10.12:35
iknofailfuhisto, nah i believe in what is written in official research papers12:35
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yownBut I shouldn't do it while it is mounted?12:35
histoIt's practically impossible to recover after a single wipe.12:35
jeetpeiHi All i want to configure my Ubuntu to send me system report in every hour .. how can i do this12:35
ActionParsnipiknofailfu: yeah, from when 1970?12:36
ActionParsnipjeetpei: look into gnome-schedule12:36
streulmacan someone convince me to use Ubuntu, prefered over Mac OS X (I have a Macbook Pro)12:36
ActionParsnipjeetpei: its a gui for cron12:36
ActionParsnipstreulma: try it, see what you think12:36
histoiknofailfu: Yeah if you have an electron microscope and hundreds of years to go over each block looking for magnetic resonance and hoping that you got all #########################################blocks right you maybe able to rebuild a file.12:36
histoIt's just not possible12:36
jeetpeii am using Lucid12:37
CallingPantherBill Gates once said no personal computer would ever have the need for more than 640K of memory too.12:37
iknofailfuguys i believe you are not professionals in data recovery, as well as i am, my statements are based on researches' whitepapers12:37
histostreulma: No you decide on your own.12:37
dwardActionParsnip not if you specify an output file. it won't override the inode tables, it'll terminate when there is no more free disk space12:37
iknofailfudon't be so offensive12:37
ActionParsnipjeetpei: lucid is EOL in April this year. I suggest an upgrade to Precise soon12:37
histoiknofailfu: I work in data recover12:37
yownShould I avoid using DD, shred etc when the drive is mounted? If so, what are the risks?12:37
iknofailfuthat's sad you don't read those12:37
dwardActionParsnip i'm pretty sure at least12:37
ActionParsnipdward: everything in linux is a file....12:38
streulmause rescue-dd12:38
histoiknofailfu: It's a theory that hasn't been proven as I said it would take far too long perhaps you should read the "papers"12:38
histoIt's theoretically possible but so is many other things THAT WILL NEVER EVER HAPPEN12:38
iknofailfuhisto, i already said what my statements are based on, my opinion is not absolute, you may consider it or not, i don't really care =)12:39
histolike throw a tennis ball at a brick wall. Quantum theory shows that on some random chance the tennis ball may actually pass through the wall unharmed. Go ahead and try that and get back to me when it happens.12:39
ActionParsniphisto: good old Gutmann eh :)12:39
iknofailfuquantum theory is not something 100% proven to be true12:39
ActionParsnipiknofailfu: http://www.howtogeek.com/115573/htg-explains-why-you-only-have-to-wipe-a-disk-once-to-erase-it/12:40
DJones!ot12:40
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!12:40
histoiknofailfu: NEITHER IS RECOVERING OVERWRITTEN DATA DOLT12:40
jeetpeiAndrew : yup i know but for now i have to stick with it till my all configuration migrate to precise12:40
iknofailfuActionParsnip, i know how to do that and i'm happy with it but thank you12:40
Jimi_NeutralYeah action, i dont forget a name, it was defo you lol12:40
ActionParsnipiknofailfu: it explain why its false too, its not just method12:40
dwardActionParsnip or a proc... but that's besides the point. I could be wrong but i think if i ran dd if=/dev/zero of=/emptyfile it would only write on empty disk space12:40
histoiknofailfu: It's a theory also12:40
iknofailfuso why am i wrong? lol12:41
histoiknofailfu: that would take ages just to recover a few bytes12:41
iknofailfui don't get it12:41
ActionParsnipdward: it won't in that case, it will make a new file and populate it with zeros.12:41
ActionParsnipiknofailfu: read the link12:41
histoiknofailfu: You are extremely paranoid if you think someone is going to waste 100's of years worht of man hours to look at your silly flash drive to recover your secret porn stash12:41
iknofailfuActionParsnip, i could provide some links to you to read12:41
iknofailfui am, that doesn't make me wrong12:41
histoiknofailfu: You are wrong no one is going to do it ever.12:42
wdphisto, actually, i did.12:42
ActionParsnipiknofailfu: In the time since this paper was published, some people have treated the 35-pass overwrite technique described in it more as a kind of voodoo incantation to banish evil spirits than the result of a technical analysis of drive encoding techniques. In fact performing the full 35-pass overwrite is pointless for any drive since it targets a blend of scenarios involving all types of (normally-used) encoding technology    by the same 12:42
streulmahello, there are people here that are using Ubuntu on a Mac ?12:42
histoiknofailfu: and being a flash drive isn't magnetic. Your statements are really wrong12:42
wdphisto, bought a used harddisc and i was interested in what was on it before :p12:42
iknofailfui never pointed which paper i was talking about12:42
ActionParsnipiknofailfu: again, read  the link12:43
histowdp: Right but it wasn't overwritten with 0's before you looked at it12:43
wdpright.12:43
wdpjust formatted12:43
iknofailfuagain, i already read all necessary pulp, necessary to make statememnts which won't hurt anyone12:43
histowdp: formatting doesn't write 0's to the drive12:43
wdpi know12:43
ActionParsnipiknofailfu: think about it, you have more than one person saying its nonsense and you stand there stating it is true based on some 1996 paper by someone who then retracted it....12:43
histoiknofailfu: That's just being silly.12:44
iknofailfuActionParsnip, number of persons is not an argument12:44
streulmawhich type to recover? ext4 ?12:44
ActionParsnipiknofailfu: but the person publishing the paper then saying its baloney is12:44
iknofailfuhisto, same about your naive statements12:44
histoiknofailfu: neither is an antient research paper that has been retracted12:44
yowndward "or you can not unmount and run 'dd if=/dev/null of=/where/ever/flashdrive/is/mounted" that didn't work12:44
lioobahello, I need help about workspaces on Ubuntu 12.04 precise. Since a few days, after an update probably, the workspaces went like *downgraded* a lot. I used a command found on a forum involving gconftools-2 to get 3 by 3 workspaces. now i'm back to 2 x 2 and I don't find how to change it. And I've another issue after that. In short : is it possible to __ roll back__ this update ???12:44
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iknofailfuagain, i never pointed which paper i read12:44
yown"0+0 records in12:44
dwardyown no i messed up12:44
yown0+0 records out12:45
iknofailfuhow you argue12:45
yown0 bytes (0 B) copied, 4.6243e-05 s, 0.0 kB/12:45
histoiknofailfu: Really naive I'm a forensics examiner ... huh must be naive with what I do every day I guess12:45
DJoneshisto: ActionParsnip iknofailfu Can you move the discussion over into #ubuntu-offtopic, it looks to have gone away from a support issue now12:45
wdpguys, if i may interrupt your discussion, i think you're going offtopic.12:45
histoyown: did you use /dev/null or /dev/zero12:45
dwardyown keep it mounted then run dd if=/dev/zero of=/mount/point/emptyfile12:45
iknofailfuhisto, there are different people doing different things that doesn't make you right again12:45
yownOk, so what ever write over I use would someone please help me with this mounting issue!12:45
ActionParsnipiknofailfu: its a famous paper, and retraction. The person who wrote the papr you read (if it wasn't him) probably read that paper12:45
histodward: It doesn't need to be mounted12:45
dwardyown nevermind12:45
dwardyown don't do that i guess12:45
ActionParsnipiknofailfu: if you want to believe falasy then that's your porogative but we stick to the facts here.12:45
dwardyown just unmount and use zerofree , it's easy12:46
iknofailfumy choice, but the way i believe in things doesn't hurt anyone12:46
histoyown: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/of/thumb/drive12:46
k610what should i install to get the missing icons to show in gnome-disk ?12:46
dwardyown either way works12:46
ActionParsnipiknofailfu: they do when you tell them to people like thay are facts12:46
yowndward what is that emptyfile bit at the end for?12:46
histoyown: that will fill the device with zero's  then you have to create a filesystem on it to mount it again12:46
nearstback, hi ppl12:46
histoyown: if you used /dev/null as the first suggestion was that won't work.12:46
iknofailfuActionParsnip, i consider those things serious enough to take as a fact, you can blame me for being paranoid, but things i say won't make things worse12:47
wdpusual mistake heh. /dev/null vs /dev/zero12:47
histoyes12:47
dwardyown it will write a bunch of zeros to an emptyfile on your flashdrive until it is full. it will overwrite anything that was deleted but is still on the disk effectivly shredding your deleted files12:47
ActionParsnipiknofailfu: multipe writes to a flash based storage will shorten it's life as they have limited write cycles12:47
yownDoes /dev/of/thumb/drive=/dev/sdb1 ?12:47
nearst:D12:47
iknofailfuActionParsnip, so you tell me you believe in write cycles for real?12:48
ActionParsnipyown: if it is seen as sdb1  then yes, you can use:  sudo parted -l   to double check :)12:48
histoyown: If /dev/sdb is your drive I would just use /dev/sdb  sdb1 is the partition might as well blow that out. So use /dev/sdb12:48
lioobawrite cycles,if any, are maybe a problem if you write hundreds of time... not 3 or 1012:48
ActionParsnipiknofailfu: yes they exist, they have a lot but wasting them is not constructive12:48
histoyown: make double sure that it's your device and you are not writing zeros to a hard drive in your machine.12:48
til4kIs there a way I can tell what permissions a samba share has either with the Nautilus GUI or a command or something?12:48
nearstyown, usually it automount. sudo mount /dev/<drive> /media/<folder>12:48
dwardhisto how does it work if not mounted? it will just overwrite everything. if it's mounted and the output file is specified, it will only overwrite space with unused inodes12:49
iknofailfuActionParsnip, this dialog is not constructive as well12:49
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dwardhisto that's why i thought it would need to be mounted12:49
histodward: Because you can write data to a device without it being mounted with dd12:49
lamp2_pingmei got smoe questions about live-build and ubuntu where is the best place to ask ?12:49
lioobasomeone could help me to *roll-back* updates on ubuntu 12.04 precise ? about the new workspaces ...12:49
ActionParsnipiknofailfu: but teaching you something new, is12:49
histodward: YOu mount filesystems not devices12:49
Laiquendilamp2_pingme: forum or here12:49
yown"sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb1" just resulted in a hung command prompt, never went back to regular prompt, and doesn't seem to have caused any writeover12:49
ActionParsniptil4k: mount it then run:   mount12:49
wdphisto, you said you're a a forensic examiner, may I pm you for a short talk? (completely unrelated to ubuntu and hence offtopic)12:50
histoyown: it's writing12:50
iknofailfugood pupil lol12:50
dwardhisto, okay i got you.12:50
ActionParsnipyown: yes, the dd is running then12:50
histoyown: it will continue until the end of the disk12:50
yownbut I still see files on the disk12:50
histoyown: well in your case it will continue untill the end of the partition since you didn't listen12:50
lamp2_pingmeokay12:50
yownhisto listen to what?12:50
dwardlol12:51
ActionParsnipyown: you will, the mount will show the files as it hasn't been sync'd12:51
yownhow can I know when it is done? Or how it is progressing/how long it will take?12:51
ActionParsnipyown: you will get the prompt back when it is done12:51
neo1691Hello World!12:51
LaiquendiHello you12:51
iknofailfuhow can i fix the partition table if it is clear that pointing system on them with `addpart` works like a charm?12:51
lioobasomeone could help me to *roll-back* updates on ubuntu 12.04 precise ? about the new workspaces ...12:51
yownSo no way to get progress bar info or time estimation?12:51
dwardnot really12:52
histoyown: if your of=/dev/sdb  it will write 0's to the device. The entire device that is regardless of partitions filesystems etc... if your of=/dev/sdb1 then it will write 0's to the filesystem12:52
ActionParsnipyown: there may be an option on dd but I've never used it12:52
histoyown: you can get progress hold on12:52
yownhisto I have been listening, I guess I missed or misunderstood, please say again12:52
neo1691I updated from ubuntu 12.04 to 12.10. My right click menu on the desktop has very few options now. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/25234323/dropdown%20error.png12:52
wdpyown, dd if=/dev/zero of=/your/disk/to/empty & pid=$!12:53
wdpyown, kill -USR1 $pid; sleep 1; kill $pid12:53
histoyown: if you send kill -USR1 to the pid of the running dd it will give you progress12:53
Laiquendineo: you only lack New Files12:53
LaiquendiI mean New Document12:53
histoyown: in a new terminal ps aux | grep dd  and get the pid number12:53
neo1691Laiquendi, Which files exactly12:53
ActionParsnipneo1691: if you make a fresh Ubuntu user and log in, is it the same there?12:54
neo1691ActionParsnip, I havent tried12:54
ActionParsniphisto: sudo killall dd         maybe12:54
histoActionParsnip: NO12:54
LaiquendiYou lack the menu New Document, which creates documents based on templates in your Template folder in home folder12:54
ActionParsniphisto: ok, just a random idea12:54
histoActionParsnip: to get the status you can send it a -USR1 signal it will print the IO output in progress12:54
neo1691ActionParsnip, Shall i log in via guest?12:54
ActionParsniphisto: probably damage the devcie12:54
histoActionParsnip: No12:54
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histoActionParsnip: man dd you will see12:54
ActionParsnipneo1691: sure, worth a try12:54
ActionParsniphisto: on it :)12:55
iknofailfuhow can i fix the partition table if it is clear that pointing system on them with `addpart` works like a charm?12:55
histoActionParsnip: kill -USR1 pidofdd; sleep 1; kill pidofdd      <---- This will show I/O statistics12:55
yownhisto Ok I ran "ps aux | grep dd" but I am not sure which of the output I got is the pid number you mentioned, or what to do with said number if I were to determine that12:55
histoyown: the number after the user name is the pid12:56
dwardhas anyone played with btrfs or zfs?12:56
histoyown: you would sudo -i   then type in kill -USR1 ##; sleep 1; kill ##     replace ## with the actual pid number12:56
ActionParsniphisto: so, what if you kill the process then start another with the extra options?12:56
yownhisto: I see my user name with a number after it, at least twice, and its a different number12:56
histoyown: the first number12:56
neo1691ActionParsnip, Same effect12:57
n8w|hey12:57
ActionParsnipneo1691: have you ever logged in as guest before?12:57
yownWhat a complicated process just to get a status update12:57
neo1691ActionParsnip, nope12:57
yownIf I mess up on these commands, am I pretty safe from screwing things up?12:57
histoyown: well that's dd for you.12:57
ioriadd has a status flag, i think12:57
ActionParsnipneo1691: try pressing ALT+F2 and run:  nautilus -q12:58
histoyown: No if you specified the wront /dev/sdx# you just blew out whatever partition you specified. DD is very dangerous in those regards12:58
n8w|what r the needed permissions for running a cript from rc.local? when i run /etc/ec.local i get permission denied on two of my scripts12:58
ActionParsnipn8w|: are they marked as executable  (use:  chmod +x /path/to/script)12:58
n8w|ActionParsnip, ohh ye, i toaly forgot this one...ye i think that will b it12:59
ActionParsnipn8w|: if you don't mark them executable, you will get no access :)12:59
n8w|ActionParsnip, u r absolutely right12:59
histoyown: there are other variants of dd that support an easier way to show progress13:00
yownBut histo, I don't see a "/dev/sdx#" in that command chain13:00
neo1691ActionParsnip, now all desktop elements have vanished, nothing happens when i right click13:00
dwardWhat filesystem are you guys using13:01
yownhisto then we should have done those from the start, how do you do em?13:01
histoyown: /dev/sdb1 <<< if that is not your thumb drive and it's some other partition you just blew it away. That's where people make mistakes13:01
philinuxdward: ext4 still here13:01
histoyown: How big is the flash drive?13:01
jeetpeineo1691 : i think your unity crashed13:02
yownhisto 8gb and I meant what you said here "sudo -i then type in kill -USR1 ##; sleep 1; kill ## replace ## with the actual pid number" is there any risk in messing up in that command chain? I don't see a dev/sdx or whatever in it13:02
BluesKajdward, yup ext4 still , fooling with other FSs can be fatal for your data13:02
cadshey, is there anything in 12.10 that makes 12.04 seem very inferior in comparison?13:02
ActionParsnipneo1691: wait and nautilus will reload13:03
cadsI've installed 12.04 on a client's computer, and I'm thinking of installing here on my computer, too13:03
iknofailfuhow can i fix the partition table if it is clear that pointing system on them with `addpart` works like a charm?13:03
dwardBluesKaj i've been fooling around with ZFS and BTRFS13:04
ActionParsnipcads: Precise is LTS, wheras quantal isn't13:04
dwardBluesKaj I top out at 1040MB/s with btrfs on my ssd13:05
BluesKajdward, I'm assuming the worst of course and your experiments with other File Systems don't involve critical data , personal or otherwise13:05
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cadsActionParsnip: I chose 12.04 because it was an LTS release, but I'm not sure what this means long term13:05
dwardBluesKaj ya, haha i have a funtoo box. for kicks13:06
til4ki dont know why you guys dont just wippeee it13:06
til4kback up and wipee the thing13:06
til4kdont troubleshoot troublenuke get gangsta up in the nix sonn13:06
til4ksorry13:06
cadsActionParsnip: my assumption is the look is frozen, but it still gets all the security updates from upstream13:06
ActionParsnipcads: 5 years support wheras QUantal is 1.5 years13:06
n8w|ActionParsnip, all good now...thx13:06
dwardBluesKaj it's insanely fast though when it's stable, BTRFS is gonna be awesome13:06
ActionParsnipcads: Kubuntu and Xubuntu will also be LTS, Lubuntu is not (sadly)13:07
til4kif ive learned anything from running ubuntu since intrepid ibex -- upgrading is a hairy business13:07
til4kbetter to be good about backing up your data so youre ready for a fresh install every 6 mos or whatever13:07
nearstbtrfs have no fsck13:07
parapanhi there fellows; I have a 500 GB HDD which has bad sectors - I was running fsck from system/Admin/Disk Utility, on 2 partitions it said file system NOT CLEAN; after that I was running sudo badblocks -n /dev/sdc1 and when realized I will take forever i dropped the -n ; however, the result is 1 bad block; on the second partition anyway I have like few  hundred blocks reported; how can I mark those badblocks and use the drive for file 13:07
ActionParsniptil4k: or run a file server and have no local user data :)13:07
yownhisto 8gb and I meant what you said here "sudo -i then type in kill -USR1 ##; sleep 1; kill ## replace ## with the actual pid number" is there any risk in messing up in that command chain? I don't see a dev/sdx or whatever in it13:08
cadsActionParsnip: heh, pardon me while I lookup an actual change log instead of trying to deduce how 12.04 differs from 12.10 via a game of 20 questions.13:08
yownAlso, can I make DD write over a partition, rather then a whole drive?13:08
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BluesKajdward, I don't use SSDs , still running an older pc , but speed isn't real important as long as it all works ok13:08
ActionParsnipcads: i don't follow13:08
iknofailfuparapan, if data loss is not a problem, you may want to consider using mhdd tool, it's free and it works, but it's better to try something else before going with this13:09
ActionParsnipcads: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=what+is+new+in+Quantal   ...?13:09
til4kActionParsnip: I interpreted it as .. you gave me a smartass answer instead of answering the question, so now I'll just look at the changelog13:09
cadsActionParsnip: I'm interested in understanding the differences between the 12.04 and 12.10, so I'm going to google instead of pestering you guys :)13:09
til4kjust trying to be helpful here13:09
cadsyeah, http://askubuntu.com/questions/217184/whats-the-difference-between-12-04-and-12-10 already seems to be helpful13:09
til4kthis is why im a fantastic lurker one comment and im on my way to troubleville13:10
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neo1691ActionParsnip, Still not reloaded13:11
philinuxdward: you might be interested in this discussion. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2112829&highlight=btrfs13:11
ActionParsnipneo1691: then press ALT+F2 and run:  nautilus13:11
dwardBluesKaj maybe not for personal use but it will for production. ZFS and BTRFS are massively scalable, and that speed is gonna make a big difference13:11
til4kcads: askubuntu and ubuntuforums are prob better resources than irc, i dont think anyone here would disagree.13:11
=== thecallingpanthe is now known as Arn
ActionParsniptil4k: use all 3 :)13:11
neo1691ActionParsnip, Itis just opening the home folder13:12
ActionParsnipneo1691: but does the desktop work ok now ?13:12
dwardphilinux thanks, ill check this out13:12
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til4kand if you get extra bored stop by a linuxmint community forum/channel and try to explain to them theyre just running ubuntu13:12
til4kthey wont believe you13:12
neo1691ActionParsnip, no13:12
parapaniknofailfu: what is mhdd doing ?13:12
ActionParsnipneo1691: just log off and on then, should be ok13:12
neo1691ActionParsnip, yes infact :P13:13
ActionParsniptil4k: really, that's funny13:13
neo1691but still the same old story13:13
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til4kActionParsnip: the mint kids get militant with that stuff13:13
ActionParsnipneo1691: maybe that's how it is these days13:13
til4ktheyre prou of their 'superiority' to ubuntu13:13
iknofailfuparapan, http://hddguru.com/software/2005.10.02-MHDD/mhdd_manual.en.html13:13
ActionParsnipneo1691: I don't use desktop icons so I wouldn't know13:13
azi`is there a way to avoid unity from being installed? and be able to choose something more sane like xfce or gnome in the installation phase?13:13
ActionParsniptil4k: yeh, shame if ubuntu ceases, they will get no updates....d'oh13:13
ActionParsnipazi`: just grab the xubuntu ISO13:14
parapaniknofailfu: I can back-up the data, problem is if I format the drive again, the badblocks will still be there and I have to redo the process of marking the bad blocks....is this correct ?13:14
jeetpeineo1691: can you try CTRL+ALT+T (open terminal ) and unity restart13:14
til4kazi`: what GUI do you prefer13:14
ActionParsnipparapan: I suggest you replace the drive13:14
liooba!quit13:14
azi`til4k: xfce for example13:15
til4kazi`: why not xubuntu13:15
azi`til4k: ActionParsnip it appears to be quite slower then and all13:15
ActionParsnipazi`: install xubuntu and you will have a slick xfce based OS. You can install xfce4 and log off then log into the xfce session13:15
PhysicistKubuntu is the best....13:15
ActionParsnipPhysicist: in your opinion13:15
til4koh no13:15
til4khit the deck13:15
azi`the thing is that these *ubuntu releases are off the main ubuntu one and quite underdeveloped13:16
til4ka GUI war is about to break out13:16
iknofailfuparapan, i got experience using it and it is great at diagnostics the surface and marking badblocks too13:16
til4knever seen this convo before13:16
ioriait's true, xubuntu it's not light as xfce is13:16
PhysicistActionParsnip: Of course... But it is axiomatically.13:16
bilou23on aptitude, most of my packages are shown twice, the second has the same name but ends with ":i386", which one should I pick?13:17
PhysicistI like it.. KDE is great.13:17
ActionParsnipioria: one is a distribution, the other is a desktop environment, they are different so cannot be compared13:17
parapanActionParsnip: I do that but I want to use-it like a storage ....marking the bd blocks and writting on the safe side ....13:17
dwardphilinux; i'm running funtoo on the box i'm testing on and it has an ssd, so not sure if this applies. I will be wary though.13:17
PhysicistI am using kubuntu in dual boot with Slackware.13:17
llutz!aptitude | bilou13:17
ubottubilou: aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT. You may encounter problems on multiarch installs (11.10 and higher) as aptitude cannot currently handle the same package with different architectures being installed at the same time. See http://pad.lv/831768 for more information.13:17
PhysicistSlack KDE too.13:17
til4kPhysicist: sort of ironic, but goo on ya13:17
parapaniknofailfu: will it run on a USB attached hdd ?13:17
icirausI tried Zorin OS, i was not to impressed truth to be told.13:17
histobilou23: Are you running a 64bit system?13:17
til4kI don't judge another man's distribution like some13:18
Physicisttil4k: Yes... A little.13:18
parapaniknofailfu: and if you have experience how long should it take on a 500 GB drive ? how much time ?in hours13:18
histoPhysicist: Do you have a ubuntu related question?13:18
ioriaActionParsnip: i mean, once i installed ubuntu with xfce and then tried xubuntu... the firsty solution was the best, in my case13:18
iknofailfuparapan, i'm not sure about it, never tried (most probably no)13:18
ActionParsnipdward: funtoo sounds good, support will be in #gentoo if they don't have their own channel13:18
til4kNay, I believe weather widgets were created equal13:18
iknofailfuparapan, last time it was 1tb, ~36hrs13:18
Physicisthisto: I always have one..13:18
ActionParsnipioria: makes sense now :)13:19
Physicisthisto: At times.. actually13:19
b2wi want to control my computer using gestures using webcam....suggest some softwares for that...13:19
ioria^o^13:19
til4kb2w: you madman13:19
parapaniknofailfu: damn, the electrical power will match the value of the drive :d13:19
neo1691jeetpei, unity-restart: command not found13:19
b2wtil4k:what?13:20
icerootwhat is the papckage called which is showing the calendar in unity (right corner) when clicking on the time/date?13:20
til4kb2w: i'll look for ya13:20
parapanActionParsnip: do you have another piece of advice ? what tool should I use for marking the bad sectors ?13:20
ActionParsnipb2w: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/multi-touch-in-ubuntu-using-a-webcam-and-your-hands-video13:20
dwardActionParship, ya they do, but the community is a lot smaller. Funtoo is my primary distro, but i used gentoo for years. Ubuntu on the family pcs.13:20
ActionParsnipparapan: no idea, the only suggestion I have is a new drive13:20
Abhijithi. i am using suse. where can i get the ubuntu libreoffice impression slide template?13:21
b2wActionparsnip:page not found13:21
til4kI got out DDG'ed but ActionParsnip13:21
iknofailfuparapan, i never needed to do it over usb, but i suspect it doesn't have usb drivers, it's old and designed for service purposes (and i doubt that people who use it needed it too)13:21
til4kI have !bang in my awesome bar and everything :(13:21
ActionParsnipb2w: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/01/multi-touch-in-ubuntu-using-a-webcam-and-your-hands-video13:22
Physicist!ati13:22
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto13:22
ActionParsnipb2w: trying to get round google's search junk (I hate that guff they put on URLs)13:22
til4kstory of my life ubottu13:22
iknofailfuhow can i fix the partition table if it is clear that pointing system on them with `addpart` works like a charm?13:22
parapaniknofailfu: I don't think so also; is says the mhdd is working directly with the controller ....IDE/SATA .....so i don't think usb is going to do something13:22
MaraHello everyone! I`m new here and I was wondering if someone can help me with postgresql install on ubuntu., please..I`m at phase with adminpack13:22
Physicist!amd13:22
Marawhen using this command: sudo -u postgres psql < /usr/share/postgresql/9.1/extension/adminpack--1.0.sql it says to use "create extension adminpack" ...I did , but still same happens13:22
parapanActionParsnip: k, thank you ...13:22
jeetpeineo1691: sudo service gdm restart13:23
histoMara: does adminpack come with postgres?13:23
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bilou23histo: yes, I'm running a 64 bits system13:24
Marais installed postgres client, admin and contrib13:24
PhysicistI need some device about how to fix a speed problem in my Kubuntu... Can preload help??13:24
llutzbilou23: see ubottu hint on aptitude, you shouldn't use it with multiarch, better/more safe to use apt-get13:24
PhysicistSo much slow to start..13:24
histobilou23: then don't install the i386 packages13:25
ActionParsnipPhysicist: sure, so will setting a lower swappiness value (if you have lots of RAM)13:25
histoMara: http://askubuntu.com/questions/184577/postgresql-9-1-adminpack-install13:25
PhysicistActionParsnip: I have 6GB.. Enough I guess13:26
Marahisto: I tried that :) but still syas to use create extension adminpack13:26
Marahisto: and if I do again it says already exists13:26
bilou23llutz: ok, I use aptitude because I never exactly know packages names but I'm searching, then I guess I can just use it for searching then install it through apt-get?13:26
llutzbilou23: sure13:26
llutzbilou23: apt-cache search pattern          might also be userfull for you(so is apt-file)13:27
b2whow to install ccv?13:27
Marahisto: but there is a comment on that post you sent and I don`t understand what about superuser ?13:27
bilou23llutz: ok thx for the tip13:27
llutzuserfull*13:27
llutzusefull*13:27
llutzgrr13:27
romeoealessiaciao13:28
histoMara: if it already exists then why are you still trying to install it?13:28
iknofailfuhow can i fix the partition table if it is clear that pointing system on them with `addpart` works like a charm? (sorry for the way i'm asking about it)13:28
histoiknofailfu: yeah that makes no sense.13:29
Marahisto: the adminpack extension still exists...13:29
histoiknofailfu: Can you try asking a bit differently13:29
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Marahisto: when trying to install the adminpack--1.0.sql it says again to use create extension...but extension already exists13:29
histoMara: Have you check in #ubuntu-server or #postgres  perhaps? they may be able to provide more help.13:29
b2wjoin #gesture13:30
histos/check/checked13:30
Marahisto: I will ,thanks13:30
icirausExucse me but what was the command to see what directory am in again?13:30
histoiciraus: pwd13:30
iknofailfuhisto, that's just my english, there is a drive with two partitions and bsd partition table, so system will never know there are two partitions until i will add them with `addpart`, so speaking plain i need it to be there permanently13:30
icirausThanks :) only got to "pw"13:30
histoiciraus: print working directory = pwd13:30
romeoealessia!list13:30
ubotturomeoealessia: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».13:30
histoiknofailfu: Are you required to use bsd label partitioning? Or can you convert to something else?13:31
iknofailfuhisto, can i convert it without risk of data loss?13:31
histoiknofailfu: I don't think anyone can garantee that. Anything could happen.13:32
histoiknofailfu: So why not backup your data just to be safe.13:33
jeetpeineo1691: any help ?13:33
iknofailfuhisto, but is it reasonable at least to have a hope about it?13:33
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histoiknofailfu: Why wouldn't you just create a backup to be sure.13:35
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histoit takes minutes and eliminates the possibility of any risk of loss13:35
histoSo no it's not sane to do it without creating a backup. What if the power went out in the process etc...13:36
iknofailfui did13:36
histoiknofailfu: well if you have a backup then convert to something that works.13:36
histoiknofailfu: or repartition the drive and restore files from backups13:36
iknofailfuhisto, i'm just trying to fix it like it was never broken, not of curiousity, but more like to have at least a tiny bit of experience13:37
tirengarfiohi, i have just bought a 2560x1440 monitor, when i go to set the resolution, the maximum resolution i can select is 1920x1080.13:37
tirengarfiohere you have the content of /var/log/Xorg.0.log13:37
tirengarfio<tirengarfio> http://pastebin.com/tGAzaSPN13:37
til4ktirengarfio: going to be a video card/driver problem13:38
reufi have this astgeriks card: http://www.stocksy.co.uk/articles/Networks/review_x100p_wildcard_fxo_card_from_x100p_com - what kind of software can i use to run asteriks server on i13:38
til4kthe most pesky13:38
nearstxrandr13:38
tirengarfiotil4k, so what should i do? buy a new video card?13:39
tirengarfiois it broken mine?13:39
tirengarfioor it just can not give that resolution?13:39
tirengarfio2560x144013:40
iknofailfuhisto, because everything looks fine but the fact i should always point on partitions manually, and that would be great if i could just fix the partition table(?) so it would always know that partitions actually do exist13:40
VinceThePrinceWhat's the most easy way to get rid off Unity ? 1) get Ubuntu Server and install nice other GUI 2) Uninstall unity and ... 3) ...?13:49
theadminVinceThePrince: Install the Ubuntu version which comes with another desktop. Ubuntu supports 4 desktops officailly: Unity (via Ubuntu), Xfce (via Xubuntu), KDE (via Kubuntu) and LXDE (via Lubuntu)13:50
ActionParsnipVinceThePrince: just install xfce4 and logoff, then log in to the new session13:52
LaserSharkVinceThePrince, sudo apt-get install lxde13:52
LaserSharkVinceThePrince, for lxde desktop13:52
LaserSharkfor gnome-shell do sudo apt-get install gnome-shell13:52
theadminWell, if you already have Ubuntu installed then the easiest would be to "sudo apt-get install <whatever you want>"13:53
ioriapoor Unity  ... it's the public enemy n° 113:53
ActionParsnipVinceThePrince: if you reinstall later, I suggest you install Xubuntu, Lubuntu or Kubuntu and Unity will not be installed.13:54
VinceThePrincetheadmin, ActionParsnip LaserShark  for now I'm just going to keep on using Ubuntu 10.10 still works like a charm and is blazing fast  out of the Box :)13:54
ActionParsnipioria: its a marmite kinda thing13:54
zxxandxxzi luke pussy13:54
theadminVinceThePrince: You can't use that, it's EOL.13:54
ActionParsnipVinceThePrince: Xubuntu will give a similar feel13:54
LaserSharkActionParsnip, agreed13:55
LaserSharkXubuntu (lxde) is your best bet13:55
theadminLaserShark: ...Xubuntu is with Xfce13:55
LaserSharktheadmin, wait13:55
LaserSharki was13:55
VinceThePrincetheadmin, watch me : http://i.imgur.com/FjTS9kX.png  :D13:55
LaserShark...under the impression13:55
LaserSharki've been lied t13:55
VinceThePrinceYou know what Ubuntu I liked, the business edition. Not much fuzz installed, clean and simple! :)13:56
theadminBah, Unity's concept of active window is still beyond my understanding, you can have a window that takes up all of your screen, but the top bar still belongs to another one >.<13:56
theadminLaserShark: Lxde = Lubuntu. First letter.13:56
KralnVinceThePrince: so install the server edition and then put X on?13:56
ActionParsnipKraln: install minimal i wouldn't install server13:56
Kralnwell, starting with the server installer, I mean13:57
theadminVinceThePrince: Just get Xubuntu as others say, it feels pretty much exactly as the old, pre-Unity Ubuntu13:57
Kralnit's not like you can't install another window manager after installing ubuntu with unity13:57
VinceThePrincetheadmin, Will look into that :D13:57
ActionParsnipKraln: Unity is part of the compiz wm.13:57
KralnActionParsnip: and?13:58
stixHi guys. I am installing ubuntu 12.10 on sdb2. Win 7 is located on sda and sdb has an ntfs partition as well. The installer suggests the boot-loader should be installed on sda, which makes sense, because I am booting on that disk. But I don't see grub at all, it just loads win7. I have tried to install the boot-loader on sdb and configure my bios to boot on that, but that also just loads win7. What to do?13:58
ActionParsnipKraln: so if you change wm, you will lose unity13:58
KralnActionParsnip: and?13:58
ActionParsnipKraln: just clarifying13:58
KralnI thought that was the point13:58
ActionParsnipKraln: I thought you meant install ubuntu with unity then switch wm13:59
Kraln"Unity sux, I want XFCE -- let me download XUBUNTU and reinstall" -- no, just install with a regular ubuntu and install xfce...13:59
ActionParsnipKraln: both are good13:59
ioriaActionParsnip: oh... i got it !14:00
chronosstix?14:00
stixchronos: yes?14:00
ActionParsnipstix: if you hold SHIFT at boot, can you select ubuntu?14:01
stixActionParsnip: I haven't tried that, but I will now14:01
neo1691ActionParsnip, Any solution?14:02
ActionParsnipneo1691: to what?14:03
aboudreaultanyone aware of this error? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1100054 (Error: ParameterIncorrect at TrueCrypt::CoreUnix::MountVolume:443)14:04
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neo1691ActionParsnip, right click problem14:04
stixActionParsnip: doesn't work14:04
aboudreaultI can't mount my encrypted disk :/14:04
ActionParsnipneo1691: no idea dude, sorry14:04
neo1691ActionParsnip, if i click on change desktop background, I get to see global settings, not change desktop dialogue14:05
iknofailfueverything looks fine but the fact i should always point on partitions manually with `addpart`, and that would be great if i could just fix the partition table(?) so it would always know that partitions actually do exist, any hints?14:06
chuothungbang96có ai là người việt nam ở đây hông14:08
chuothungbang96huhu14:08
theadminiknofailfu: You can try with testdisk.14:09
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theadminNot sure if the problem is an actually corrupted partition table, but if it is, then yeah that'll fix it14:10
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newbie-5th-daywhen i type the command ' apt-get install package '  it download the package then install it !   how can i delete this package after the install ? i'm booting from a 8Go flash and i need everything about deleting Unessasary  data :)14:15
JoseeAntonioRnewbie-5th-day: you can use 'sudo apt-get remove package', and14:15
JoseeAntonioRnewbie-5th-day: 'sudo apt-get purge package' to remove the package + config files, the other one removes only the package14:16
ActionParsnipnewbie-5th-day: sudo apt-get clean    will remove the old debs14:16
ActionParsnipnewbie-5th-day: if you have RAM to spare, you can use tempfs and put your browser cache there and use less of the flash as well as make browsing faster14:17
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jdukietI was given a magicjack. Did a quick search with google, and i'm not interested in running "virtualbox" since I dual boot windows 7. Has anyone had any experience with this issue? I'm running 12.04 LTS.14:21
newbie-5th-dayJoseeAntonioR: any troubles if i remove the config files ??14:22
newbie-5th-dayActionParsnip:  can u be more specific .. as u see my 5th day in ubuntu :)14:22
JoseeAntonioRnewbie-5th-day: no, if you won't use the package. if you want to use it again, you'll have to configure it again14:23
ActionParsnipnewbie-5th-day: run:  sudo apt-get clean    and the old debs you used to install with will go14:24
supermanhei is it hard to install clean irssi on ubuntu?14:25
theadminsuperman: sudo apt-get install irssi14:25
ActionParsnipsuperman: ^14:25
supermanok14:25
nn0101irssi is horrible14:25
supermanahah14:25
theadminOpinions go elsewhere, this channel is for support.14:26
ActionParsnipnn0101: its crazy flexible :)14:26
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newbie-5th-dayActionParsnip:  apt-get remove ...    uninstall the whole  package !!!!! i have to install it again  ! and i want just delete the .deb file14:28
nearstnn0101, irssi is good irc anyway14:29
theadminnewbie-5th-day: Then use "sudo apt-get clean"14:29
supermanwhen i use ubuntu i feel better14:29
supermani use win8 on my pc but i love ubuntu more14:29
nearstsuperman, define better? :)14:29
newbie-5th-dayyeah .. all i need is "sudo apt-get clean"14:30
newbie-5th-daythX14:30
seednodeEh, I like Win8 more14:30
supermanok14:30
seednodeHonestly, it's more responsive than Ubuntu on this laptop14:30
seednodeBut to each their own14:30
theadminnewbie-5th-day: You can also use "sudo apt-get autoclean", which will only clean out old package versions, which are now entirely useless, but current ones will be kept in cache because you may want to reinstall them.14:30
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ActionParsnipnewbie-5th-day: that's what I said.....14:30
supermanwhat do you think about IBM lenovo laptop is it good?14:31
seednodesuperman, which one in particular?14:31
iknofailfusuperman, my subjective opinion is against lenovo products14:31
newbie-5th-dayActionParsnip: yeah sorry  i misunderstood you x)14:31
seednodeI personally own many older IBM/Lenovo Thinkpads, and they're great14:32
seednodeHowever14:32
seednodeRecent ones aren't nearly as nice, and are fairly expensive for the specs14:32
nn0101ActionParsnip: nearst ;)14:32
supermanbut HP is bad14:32
seednodeHey now14:32
supermanwhat about ASUS?14:32
seednodeHP's enterprise line isn't bad14:33
seednodeASUS has decent "gaming laptops", but as a general rule I'm against such things14:33
DJones!ot | seednode superman14:33
ubottuseednode superman: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!14:33
seednodeSorry14:33
nearsthehe. finally ot14:33
seednodesuperman, hop onto ##hardware to discuss this14:33
supermanok14:33
blackem_anyone know to stop zte mf192 from switching to hspa+ automatically,14:34
seednodeThough, once again, you can always bring it up earlier, instead of waiting 5 minutes THEN saying it's off-topic14:34
theadminWill ddrescue (GNU version) copy the entire partition, or only "filled" parts of it to the target file?14:34
iknofailfu#ubuntu-offtopic =)14:35
waffles881does anyone have any idea how to use pyserial to set custom baudrates? is this an issue with ubuntu or just linux kernel in general?14:35
seednodetheadmin, I'm fairly certain it copies the whole partition14:36
theadminseednode: Alright, thanks. Geez, 300GB of data, only 60 of it is actual, uh, data. But I suppose it makes sense, such lowlevel tools aren't aware of the filesystem specifics.14:36
VinceThePrinceif I upgrade from 10.10 to 12.04 (?) will it install stuff and delete my current settings etc?14:37
nearstVinceThePrince, do-release-upgrade will handle it nicely14:37
theadminVinceThePrince: Applications you installed and your data/settings will not be untouched. But the default apps from 12.04 will be installed.14:38
theadminerr, will be untouched14:38
theadmin-not14:38
nsahoohi .. running 12.10, getting 100% cpu usage by xorg today and mouse cursor is stuck. What can I do?14:38
DJonesVinceThePrince: It should just upgrade the o/s and the packages you've installed and keep your current settings assuming you go from 10.10 -> 11.04 -> 11.10 -> 12.04) You can't go directly from 10.10 to 12.04 as 10.10 wasn't an LTS version14:38
theadminYeah that's a long trip, I'd reinstall keeping the same /home14:39
VinceThePrincetheadmin, so it will install unity during the upgrade process? Can I upgrade to Xubuntu from Ubuntu 10.10 ? Since I have so much stuff Installed that I don't to do a clean install14:40
nearstnsahoo, try sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg then reboot.14:40
theadmin!purexfce | VinceThePrince, do this before upgrading.14:40
ubottuVinceThePrince, do this before upgrading.: If you want to remove all !KDE and !Gnome packages and have a default !Xubuntu system follow the instructions here « http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce »14:40
iknofailfuguys, i have a problem, however everything looks fine but the fact i should always point on partitions manually with `addpart`, and that would be great if i could just fix the partition table(?) so it would always know that partitions actually do exist, any hints?14:41
VinceThePrincetheadmin, I do that and afterwards 'sudo apt-get upgrade xubuntu' or ?14:41
theadminVinceThePrince: Err, this is for 12.10, for 10.10 the instructions are: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfcemaverick14:42
theadminVinceThePrince: ...oh, wait, that's impossible now because 10.10 is EOL. You'll have to do that after the upgrade14:42
VinceThePrincetheadmin, I'm lost :D what do I have to do first :p14:42
theadminVinceThePrince: Alright, first launch the update process: sudo do-release-upgrade14:43
nearstup can do release upgrade then install xfce, logout and login into xfce wim14:43
theadminVinceThePrince: Next, after that's done, follow the instructions at http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce14:43
VinceThePrincetheadmin, first going to do a prayer for this to work14:44
theadminVinceThePrince: It normally works fine... An upgrade did fail on me once, but a propretiary driver was at fault (it's newer version no longer supported my graphics card :/)14:45
mad__I would like to use Samba4 with ubuntu 12.04 LTS. There is an samba-4.0.0-alpha - will this be updated soon? Or is there some ppa for samba4 ?14:46
theadminStill though, can someone explain why upgrading is only possible from one release to the next one of the same branch? As in, why is 10.10 -> 12.04 not possible directly? Why do they make us go through hoops?14:47
Atlantic778How to set system wide proxy from console? I need it for irc (irssi). http_proxy env variable didn't help.14:48
theadminAtlantic778: It's HTTP_PROXY, not http_proxy14:49
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Atlantic778theadmin: ah, that makes sense.14:49
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theadminAtlantic778: ...But that is the HTTP proxy. irssi doesn't use http.14:51
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An_Ony_MooseAtlantic778: what kind of proxy? SOCKS?14:52
Atlantic778An_Ony_Moose: i think it's normal http proxy.14:52
Atlantic778theadmin: can I use irssi through http proxy somehow? :/14:52
imran2does any one have any solution to system wide implementation of mouse wheel scrolling speed vertically ????14:52
theadminAtlantic778: Uhm, I don't think you could. You can try defining ALL_PROXY and let it figure it out, though14:53
nearstis there a problem using sasl/tor with irssi ? :)14:53
theadminnearst: I think this proxy is something the ISP/organization requires, not an anonymizer.14:54
Atlantic778theadmin: that's what I was looking for. Thanks. I'll try.14:54
nearstexport http_proxy to .bashrc ?14:55
theadminAtlantic778: Also, I suggest using this instead, it's irssi-specific, may be better: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Irssi#HTTP_Proxy14:56
Jan_Is VT-D or Virtio faster on KVM with networking?14:56
ameliaaaaaolaaa14:56
nsahoohi .. xorg is using 100% cpu today, running ubuntu 12.10. I did try "dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xor" and restarted. Still the same problem.14:58
imran2does any one have any solution to system wide implementation of mouse wheel scrolling speed vertically ????14:58
VinceThePrincetheadmin, "sudo do-release-upgrade" not working do you mean "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" ?14:58
Atlantic778theadmin: nah, it looks like it's blocked by proxy. :/14:59
nsahooany idea, why this is happening?15:00
nsahooxorg at 100% mouse cursor stuck?15:00
nearstusing unity?15:01
theadminVinceThePrince: No, "apt-get dist-upgrade" just upgrades packages. I mean do-release-upgrade.15:01
nsahooyes.15:01
iknofailfuguys, i have a problem, however everything looks fine but the fact i should always point on partitions manually with `addpart`, and that would be great if i could just fix the partition table(?) so it would always know that partitions actually do exist, any hints?15:01
nsahoothis is happening as soon as the machine starts15:01
nearstnsahoo, try nomodeset at grub? or use lightweight de ?15:02
Questhow to clear history so that the 'history' command dont shows anythign?15:05
VinceThePrincetheadmin, upgrade in progress. "Knock on wood"15:05
DJonesQuest: In a terminal window? "history -c"15:06
nearstQuest, echo "" > .bash_history ?15:06
QuestDJones,  yes15:08
VinceThePrincetheadmin, errors: http://pastie.org/633426315:08
Questhow to clear history so that the 'history' command dont shows anything? and if I do something, like delete a file or so, what are the locations/ logs/ commands that record that activity?15:09
DJonesQuest: As I put above "history -c"15:10
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VinceThePrincetheadmin, should I try to upgrade via the update manager?15:10
QuestDJones,  its only recorded in history? no other places?15:10
theadminVinceThePrince: Probably.15:10
llutzQuest: or simply ">~/.bash_history"  (that is the file holding that info if you use bash)15:10
Questllutz,  ">~/.bash_history"  and history -c will result in same resutls?15:11
DJonesQuest: Don't know if its recorded elsewhere, I've just run the command on my machine and cleared the history for me15:11
llutzQuest: yes15:11
Questok15:11
QuestDJones, llutz  any thing on system logs?15:11
nearstwhy need to clear all logs ? :)15:12
Questnearst,  to clear up traces15:12
serp_porn15:12
theadminQuest: The bash history is stored in ~/.bash_history15:12
Questtheadmin,  in the home folder i gues?15:13
ubinuxhi @ all15:13
theadminQuest: ~ refers to your home folder.15:13
nearstcd && cat .bash_history15:13
Questtheadmin,  ">~/.bash_history"15:13
Quest$ cd .bash_history15:13
Questbash: cd: .bash_history: Not a directory15:13
theadminQuest: That is not a directory, it's a file.15:13
UbuPhillupcat .bash_history15:14
bezhi15:14
Questtheadmin,  oh ok. so clearing history -c and rm .bash_history      would be suffice or do i need to do that in any other place too?15:14
VinceThePrincetheadmin, I have to upgrade via CD can't I just push in the Xubuntu CD and upgrade from that CD or do I have to download the 11.04 Ubuntu CD and upgrade to that?15:14
bezwhat can I do on ubuntu?15:15
theadminVinceThePrince: You can't jump releases, so you can use 11.04, but you need to use the alternate CD15:15
theadminbez: Anything.15:15
awktion_bez: what do you like to do with your computer?15:15
bezplay on lol15:15
theadminbez: Ubuntu probably isn't the best choice for gaming yet, most games are Windows-only so far :(15:16
awktion_http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=194618815:16
bezi have lol on ubuntu15:16
llutzDJones: history -c clears the actual history, but not the ~/.bash_history file15:16
awktion_ok, then what did you mean 'what can i do on ubuntu' ?15:16
bezbut i have drop fps15:16
awktion_ah15:16
theadminbez: Well, that's fairly obvious, WINE isn't as fast as a pure Windows environment. Can't help that.15:16
DJonesllutz: Cheers, I'd only ever needed to use the command15:17
awktion_you might try the #winehq chan15:17
kepin_kepanCan I install backtrack utilities in ubuntu?15:17
awktion_sorry #wine15:17
nearstVinceThePrince, try look at /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades15:17
awktion_kepin_kepan: yes15:17
Questtheadmin,  oh ok. so clearing history -c and rm .bash_history      would be suffice or do i need to do that in any other place too?15:17
theadminawktion_: It's #winehq :P15:17
awktion_check apt or synaptic15:17
Questllutz,  DJones  ^15:17
theadminawktion_: #wine is some weird invite-only channel15:17
awktion_ah irssi was lagging15:18
awktion_somehow i got in lol15:18
nearst#winehq15:18
theadminQuest: Yes, those two are enough15:18
KentrelSteam is available on Ubuntu now. I've played FTL and Team Fortress, and they work brilliantly15:18
Questtheadmin,  what about system logs?15:18
llutzQuest: /var/log/auth.log if you used sudo-commands15:18
DJonesQuest: Go with what llutz is saying, I've only used the history -c command15:18
KentrelAccording to Valve, Linux is faster for gaming due to the optimized kernel15:18
theadminQuest: There's no real log that keeps track of commands15:18
theadminKentrel: They're native, though, but windows apps won't run as fast as they do on Windows15:19
nearst/var/log should have all system logs15:19
Questtheadmin,  what about /var/log/auth.log  as llutz  says15:19
Kentreltrue, but I don't notice the speed. MS Office runs quickly15:19
theadminQuest: That keeps tracks of authentications, not commands...15:19
bezI updated my ubuntu and kernel and ubuntu slow down15:19
theadminKentrel: That's just because it's a simple app. Try running any game.15:19
KentrelPortal 2 runs nicely in Wine15:19
llutztheadmin: really? "Feb 24 11:26:40 xxxxx sudo:     lutz : TTY=pts/1 ; PWD=/home/lutz ; USER=root ; COMMAND=/usr/sbin/hddtemp /dev/sdb"15:20
theadminllutz: ...well, yesh, it keeps track of the commands that are ran with sudo, but not just any commands, was what I meant to say.15:20
Questtheadmin,  ok15:20
|MS|DjFlyBytoday when I try to 'mount -a' I am getting an error for one of my drives. It is telling me to "run chkdsk -f on windows then reboot twice". My question is how does one do this when there is no "Windows" to be used?? Any suggestions please.15:22
Questtheadmin,  is there a way to delete all auth or every  log i should say? one command solution"15:22
Quest?15:22
theadminQuest: Not really, there's no universal place for all teh logs. Some apps log to files under your home directory, some to /var/log, some may even have something under ~/.config/15:22
fetzbeastich bin der banker dein leben schenker und lenker15:22
fetzbeastmanchmal auch der henker15:23
llutz!de | fetzbeast und du bist hier falsch15:23
ubottufetzbeast und du bist hier falsch: In den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis!15:23
manners13hey guys im trying to install sogo via apt-get but i keep getting "Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages" can anyone help?15:23
theadminfetzbeast: Es ist uns egal. Das ist der Ubuntu support-channel, nur fuer Ubuntu Support-Fragen.15:23
theadminfetzbeast: Also, nur in English.15:23
fetzbeastsry15:23
fetzbeastwrong chanel15:23
bezHENDE HOCH15:23
llutzno off-topic nonsense in any language15:23
fetzbeastwas jole for frend15:24
fetzbeasti will speak englisch promoting your chanel and youpornig in backgrround15:24
manners13anyone?15:25
jeremytest15:25
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theadminmanners13: Do you have any held packages, indeed? If not, run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -f install && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"15:25
theadminmanners13: If  you did hold some packages, may be best to unhold them now15:26
Questtheadmin,  the system logs are all in /var/log ?15:26
theadminQuest: Systemwide ones, yes15:26
Kentrelmanners13, use aptitude. It will then give you an option to resolve the dependencies15:26
mad_I would like to use Samba4 with ubuntu 12.04 LTS. There is an samba-4.0.0-alpha - will this be updated soon? Or is there some ppa for samba4 ?15:26
manners13how do i know if they are held?15:26
Questtheadmin,  thanks!15:26
theadminmanners13: dpkg --get-selections | grep hold15:26
Kentrelmanners13, keep cycling through the options you get until you get one that works. It will probably ask you to downgrade a package or two15:26
zajcahi guys i need some X help. I have touch screen panel and I want to use it in xbmc, which i want to start at system start. So i created autostart for xbmc but when it started mutitouch is not working. only when multitouch works is when i started terminal and start it from there. Othewise not15:26
Kentrelsudo apt-get install aptitude15:27
zteamHi!15:27
Kentrelthen use it like apt-get15:27
theadminKentrel: Please do not use Aptitude. It has no multiarch support and will break 64-bit environments.15:27
|MS|DjFlyByanyone able to help please?15:27
DJones!aptitude | Kentrel15:27
ubottuKentrel: aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT. You may encounter problems on multiarch installs (11.10 and higher) as aptitude cannot currently handle the same package with different architectures being installed at the same time. See http://pad.lv/831768 for more information.15:27
zteamI need to add use software from multiverse and universe repository from a usb-key15:27
zteamhow do I do that?15:28
Kentreltheadmin, it fixed all the problems apt-get created for me, and I'm on 64bit15:28
theadminzteam: file:// URLs are supported as APT sources, so just add the path like that in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/local.list15:28
theadminzteam: e.g. file:///media/myusb/repo/ precise universe multiverse15:29
theadminzteam: Err, deb file:///media/myusb/repo/ precise universe multiverse # That's more like it.15:29
theadminKentrel: Meaning you are either using some very old release, or just are very lucky.15:30
KentrelI'm on 12.1015:30
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theadminKentrel: Then you're very lucky.15:30
theadmin!wfm | Kentrel15:31
ubottuKentrel: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/15:31
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KentrelWell15:31
KentrelWhen I had the problem I joined here and #kde, and nobody had a solution15:31
KentrelSo I did what worked to get my system back15:31
theadminKentrel: Well, I'm glad it works for you, but again, do not recommend something that's known to cause problems to others.15:32
Kentrellol15:32
nearst!kubuntu15:32
ubottuKubuntu is the Ubuntu flavour using KDE Software and the KDE Plasma Workspaces.  See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support join  #kubuntu - See also !kde15:32
fetzbeast_doch15:32
KentrelThat's a broad statement. Everything with linux causes problems for somebody15:32
fetzbeast_nein15:32
fetzbeast_du bist klein15:32
KentrelHe has the option to look at the packages being removed and decide no15:33
TaonasQuick question; I brought a new USB HDD to replace an old one; I'm using rsync to copy from the old to the new; it started @ 15mbps and now is at 1mbps... Is there a better command to use for the sync?15:33
llutzfetzbeast_: es reicht15:33
woo!en | fetzbeast_15:33
ubottufetzbeast_: Certain Ubuntu IRC channels are English only.  For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList15:33
zajcahi guys i need some X help. I have touch screen panel and I want to use it in xbmc. But xbmc start only from terminal with touchscreen working. Only when touchscreen works is when it's started from terminal15:33
DJonesfetzbeast_: Stop that, this isn't the place15:33
jhutchins_wkTantor: Which options did you specify15:33
jhutchins_wk?15:33
Tantorhuh?15:34
TantorWhere?15:34
lixGood day. Is it necessary to encrypt the home folder on a system where LVM encryption is already set?15:34
theadminlix: Well, if you'd like to take an extra security step, maybe. But generally speaking, no, it's not.15:34
Taonasjhutchins_wk: rsync --ignore-existing -stats --archive --no-perms --recursive -v --progress /mnt/old /mnt/new15:34
lixtheadmin: thanks!15:35
steven____hey all15:35
lixtheadmin: if I have a second physical disc which I would like to encrypt as well. do I use fdisk first, then mkfs, then cryptsetup? or the other way?15:36
c2tarunthere is no /etc/skel/.bashrc in Ubuntu 12.04.2 :(15:36
c2taruncan anyone please help me in restoring my .bashrc file15:36
theadminc2tarun: It would be pointless to have one since there's a global bashrc file in /etc/bash.bashrc15:36
c2taruntheadmin, so you mean I can replace .bashrc with bash.bashrc15:37
klrrwhy does ubuntu promote usage of dbus? (well it doesnt officially promote it, but having the init system depending on it seems a bit overkill, pipes and sockets are enough ipc for a init system IMO)15:37
theadminc2tarun: You can remove ~/.bashrc and then the systemwide one will be used.15:37
llutzc2tarun: that makes even less sense at all15:37
manners13hi the admin15:37
manners13hi theadmin, i tried that and the commnad dpkg --get-selections | grep hold comes back with nothing15:38
theadminmanners13: Good, then just do the "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -f install && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" thing. If it doesn't work, we'll keep looking.15:38
manners13yeah that dont work lol15:38
c2tarunllutz, theadmin, I am not able to see any colors in my terminal window, I actually mounted separate partition over /home and that partition don't have .bashrc. That is my problem, how can I get .bashrc?15:39
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theadminklrr: Eh. Ubuntu is a majorly graphical distribution. Pretty much any DE nowadays needs DBus to work properly. So, why not?15:39
theadminc2tarun: You don't really need one...15:40
c2taruntheadmin, then how can I restore color in my terminal? I mean default color theme15:40
|MS|DjFlyBytoday when I tried to 'mount -a' I am getting an error for one of my drives. It's telling me to "run chkdsk -f on windows then reboot twice". How do I do this when there is no "Windows" to be used?? Any suggestions please.15:40
theadminc2tarun: Um, I'm pretty sure Ubuntu doesn't have any colors by default. Am I wrong?15:40
tk___q15:41
theadmin|MS|DjFlyBy: sudo ntfsck /dev/<whatever drive gives you the error>15:41
c2taruntheadmin, at least on ls folders are in blue :(15:41
klrrtheadmin: since dbus is totally piece of shit, not only is it unnecessary(well stupid idiot gnome devs might made it impossible to write gtk apps without dbus, what do i know?) but it also sucks, it's slow and bloated and it makes program crash and is a hell for developers since its api sucks, what's wrong with sockets and pipes, or at least redisigning dbus to be useful?15:41
manners13http://pastebin.com/uEr0MfTk15:42
|MS|DjFlyBytheadmin: thanks15:42
llutzc2tarun: this is a default 12.10 ~/.bashrc https://gist.github.com/llutz/5030682   use it if you liek15:42
manners13that the error i get when i use pat-get install sogo15:42
llutzlike15:42
manners13pat/apt15:42
theadminklrr: Ubuntu can't... "re-design" dbus, that'd be too much of a compatibility breaker, you know. Also, please watch your language. Anyway, the kernel developers are working on creating a dbus replacement that will be part of kernel, so we just have to wait for that.15:42
klrrtheadmin: oh great, now also put something in the kernel, well at least they are real programmers15:43
klrroh great->sarcasm15:43
c2tarunllutz, that worked great :) thanks a lot15:44
klrri dont get how ubuntu's developers can accept such shitty software as dbus in their distribution, sad how developers accept bloated software, simple true software that follow the unix philosphy is the best15:45
theadminklrr: http://archlinux.org <- there you go.15:45
theadminklrr: Now, please stop being offtopic. This channel is for support.15:46
klrrtheadmin: lol archlinux uses systemd, it's even worse man15:46
seednodeNever change, #ubuntu15:47
klrrthere's just no sane way to use Unix nowdays, plan9 ftw15:47
ubuntokirr: i find unity more bloated than anything else. it makes my netbook crawl.15:47
theadmink1l_: Thanks.15:47
klrrwas i kicked?15:47
k1l_!guidelines | klrr15:48
ubottuklrr: The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines15:48
manners13is tehre anything else i can try15:49
klrrokey, didnt no it was against the rules to question why ubuntu uses bad software in its distribution15:49
manners13there15:49
katronixHi all, if you have ns1/ns2 on one server and ns3/ns4 on another server anything special you have to do, to make the ns3/4 work?15:49
k1l_klrr: last warning: stop that ranting and flaming. stick to technical ubuntu support issues in here. thanks15:49
c2tarunis there anything I can remove from /etc/xdg/autostart   http://paste.ubuntu.com/5565014/     I already removed bluetooth and printer. Is jockey-gtk.desktop necessary?15:50
klrrk1l_: yes i will, still sad this is even called "flaming/ranting" (except the unrespectful words i used ofc)15:50
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theadminc2tarun: Shouldn't be, it checks for extra drivers availability15:50
TaonasWhat's the best way to copy 2TB of files from one USB drive to another?15:50
Guest35Ho can helpme with office 2010 an wine15:51
c2taruntheadmin, ok, and what is zeitgeist-datahub?15:51
k1l_Guest35: best way is to ask the wine guys:15:51
theadminc2tarun: You better keep that if you want Unity search to work15:52
theadminGuest35: Try #winehq15:52
k1l_!wine | Guest3515:52
ubottuGuest35: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu15:52
Guest35here is nobody on het winehq channel15:52
c2tarunGuest35, really? I can see 208 people.15:53
theadminGuest35: There's a ton of people there all the time, but you may need to register to be able to access that channel. Please go to #freenode for help with that.15:53
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Guest35theadmin, im on that channel15:54
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* bean__ only sees Guest35 on #ubuntu15:54
theadminGuest35: You've only joined #ubuntu, not #freenode nor #winehq15:55
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llutzodd, i see Guest35 in #winehq aswell15:55
Guest35how can i joind #winehq15:55
llutzGuest35: you already did15:55
bean__i see him in there as well, now15:56
Guest35llutz can you help me15:56
bean__hmm15:56
llutzGuest35: no i don't use wine15:56
kirk601any brand of SSD i should stay away from?16:04
DJoneskirk601: ##hardware will probably be able to give you more information on that16:05
kirk601DJones: thanks16:05
kirk601dont see anyone in #hardware16:05
DJoneskirk601: ##hardware16:06
manners13ok now got it to this but cant seem to get past it  sogo : Depends: libmemcached6 (>= 0.44) but it is not installable16:06
manners13E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.16:06
DJonesNote the double #16:06
kirk601DJones: didn't notice that, or know there was a difference16:06
Guest35what version is ubuntu 12.0416:07
stickDeathGuest35: its 12.04 :D16:07
genii-aroundGuest35: Precise Pangolin16:07
tux_Guest35, Precise16:07
c2taruneach time I reboot I have to load modules for my touchpad as mentioned in this thread :( http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1971196   How can I fix this?16:08
Guest35thnax16:08
tux_c2tarun, add them to your /etc/modules ?16:08
c2taruntux_, there is no folder like /etc/modules is it strange?16:09
tux_you mean no file ?16:09
tux_c2tarun, do a, cat /etc/modules16:10
tux_or cd into /etc/ and 'cat modules' if possible16:11
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Fuzzlesjust did some test with unity and kde and im suprised to say the kde devs have out done them selves16:14
DJonesw 2316:15
jhutchins_wkFuzzles: I must say they have.  After nearly ten years of loyal use they drove me to xfce.16:17
manners13hmm still no joy16:17
manners13why all of sudden is it getting this dependancy error16:17
Fuzzlesjhutchins_wk, how come?16:18
hethHi. Where I can find 12.10 DVD iso?16:19
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meLonIs it possible to create a desktop launcher on DISPLAY=:0.1 vs 0.0 ?16:20
|MS|DjFlyBytheadmin: I get a ntfsck does not exist16:20
mussajoin #linuxac16:20
hethHi. Where I can find Ubuntu 64bit 12.10 DVD iso?16:20
meLonheth: http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.10/ubuntu-12.10-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.10/ubuntu-12.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent16:21
tgm4883meLon, neither of those would be the DVD16:21
meLonheth: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/alternative-downloads16:21
hethmeLon, yea but that's not the DVD?16:21
Fuzzlesubuntu dont have dvd versions all small enought for cd16:22
meLon^16:22
hethmeLon, tgm4883, I don't see a DVD link in the Alternate downloads section16:22
|MS|DjFlyBytoday when I tried to 'mount -a' I am getting an error for one of my drives. It's telling me to "run chkdsk -f on windows then reboot twice". How do I do this when there is no "Windows" to be used?? Any suggestions please.16:22
Fuzzlesthe only DVD ubuntu based distro that is over cd is kubuntu16:22
hethFuzzles, since when is that?16:23
meLonheth: You don't need DVD, sir, they don't exist.  If you need more functionality on install (like luks), use Alternative Download16:23
DJonesheth: Fuzzles The desktop install iso no longer fits on a cd, they're all too big now, its either a dvd or usb install16:23
meLonYeah, DJones explanation is more accurate16:23
hethDJones, Aha. so no more separate CD / DVD editions16:23
npf_quich question I am moving folders that are subfolders of A C B D .... using the following mv /media/backup/A/ /media/backup ther are random folders unders the A folder that I ned to move how do I do so16:24
hethI wonder why they don't use more space then :) since they can go up to few GBs16:24
manners13right tried aptitude as well which appears to install an older version of sogo16:24
WBFMy microsoft wireless notebook optical mouse is not working and reports itself as a GreenAsia Inc. MaxFire Blaze2.16:24
|MS|DjFlyByI tried to 'sudo ntfsck /dev/sdq' but I get 'ntfsck not found'16:24
tgm4883heth, it's to keep the devs from just including a bunch of bloat. eg. to keep it lean16:24
DJonesheth: I'm not sure if the dvd version still exists though, as far as I can remember the only difference between the old cd & dvd iso's was extra language packs in the dvd iso16:24
FuzzlesDJones, the ubuntu iso is 763mb my bad i forget cds are only 70016:25
hethtgm4883, yea sounds a good idea16:25
hethDJones, really? So that double size was only languages?16:25
davlapshey folks..16:25
kirk601hiya davlaps16:26
Fuzzleswhats the difference between kubuntus cd and dvd version?16:26
davlapshi kirk601!16:26
davlapsi'm looking to deploy ubuntu on dell rack servers.16:26
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davlapscan anyone tell me which of their current servers support 12.04 or 12.10?16:27
dr_willis12.10 is only a dvd now.16:27
meLonsweet davlaps! You going with 12.04 (LTS) Server?16:27
davlapsi would love to meLon!16:27
meLondavlaps: 12.04 is LONG TERM SUPPORT. Many people would recommend you use this vs 12.1016:27
tgm4883davlaps, i'd probably use 12.04.216:27
davlapsjust need to find compatible hardware.16:27
DJonesheth: Looks like it, from the download website "get DVD images with more language packs" but I can't see the equivalent for 12.1016:27
meLon12.04 should have all of the compatibility, with more stability :D16:27
davlapstgm4883: thanks.16:27
newbie-5th-dayso i have ubuntu installed in my Usb drive! i want to use it  in my Laptop, but also be able to use it on my Desktop and other computers !16:27
newbie-5th-dayIs it a problem to run one copy of Ubuntu on multiple hardware?16:28
davlapsmeLon :)16:28
newbie-5th-dayto be specific i want to make compiz extra effect work .. so i need the appropriate graphic card driver of each hardware installed in this usb drive :) how can i solve this ?16:28
davlapsi'm a little worried about compat, as I saw some threads from last year about CPU crashes under load on the new dell servers..16:28
dr_willisnewbie-5th-day: depends on the hardware16:28
tgm4883davlaps, you should look at http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/server/make/Dell/16:28
davlapsR720 specificlaly..16:28
meLondavlaps: Will your servers have HDD or SSDs?16:28
hethwhere I can see what's new in 12.10?16:28
skywellnewbie-5th-day: You should install the 32bit version onto the USB drive in order to have the most compatibility from computer to computer.16:28
davlapstgm4883: thanks, i already did..16:28
newbie-5th-daydr_willis:  how?16:28
davlapsthose servers are all old gen..16:28
meLonheth https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuDesktop16:28
davlapsmeLon: HDD will be fine for my app..16:29
hethmeLon, tgm4883, DJones, Thanks for the assistance! Have a good day! :)16:29
newbie-5th-dayskywell: already did :)16:29
joker_"The application Compiz has closed unexpectedly."16:29
manners13anyone know a workaround to this sogo : Depends: libmemcached6 (>= 0.44) but it is not installable16:29
manners13E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.16:29
npf_I have a move drive and I have split them in alplabetical order but I would like to use mv to fo into each directory and move the folders to a new location.... but I dont want to name the movie folder ... and ideas16:29
meLonIs it possible to create a desktop launcher on DISPLAY=:0.1 vs 0.0 ?16:30
tgm4883davlaps, well that is the site that dell sends you to for an HCL16:30
jsindyI added a disk on the fly to ubuntu, was curious how to detect this new disk? fdisk -l doesnt seem to show it16:30
meLonjsindy: Your bios and hdd have to support hot-swaping16:30
kirk601how good is the automatic partitioner in the installer at sizing the partitions correctly?16:30
jsindymeLon: it is Vmware so it does16:30
skywelljsindy: you can see it in dmesg16:30
katronixSomeone was telling me yesterday that eth0:X was no longer the preferred way to refer to additional IPs. Can someone point me to the correct 'new' way?16:30
davlapstgm4883: yeah.. i know.. unfortunately, all the hw compat sites for dell/os are out of date. makes it hard when i need to order hardware with their current offerings :(16:30
meLonYou can check `dmesg` output and see what /dev/sdN gets added jsindy16:31
jsindyperfect16:31
jsindythanks guys16:31
meLonjsindy: Will you be adding these to fstab?16:31
jsindygonna add it to an LVM partion16:31
joker_Can anyone help me? I just updated 12.04 to 12.10 and got into recovery mode.. I purged and reinstalled then reconfigured xserver-xorg and xserver-xorg-core and got to Unity. Now I just got like 8 error messages about a D-Bus program shutting down, xdiagnose shutting down, and Compiz shutting down. Is there anything I can do to fix these? I am running on 32bit.16:31
jsindyso no16:31
tgm4883davlaps, probably better to ask in #ubuntu-server16:32
meLonjsindy: I love `blkid`.  If you use `sudo blkid` you can learn the ID of the hdd and use that in fstab vs /dev/sdN numbers.  Might make your day easier in the future.16:32
tgm4883I don't run ubuntu on my dell servers16:32
davlapstgm4883: thanks, will do!16:32
jsindymeLon:  nice16:32
meLonIt's really convenient if you add/remove/re-order hdds, jsindy :D16:32
intraderGood morning all, my laptop is overheating; (laptop is lenovo t61p running linux 12.10); Command acpi -c16:34
intraderCooling 0: LCD 0 of 1516:34
intraderCooling 1: Processor 0 of 1016:34
intraderCooling 2: Processor 0 of 1016:34
intrader;as soon as I have a full screen video the temperature temp2 starts going up- video http://www.tricedesigns.com/2013/02/19/video-introduction-to-phonegap/16:34
FloodBot1intrader: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.16:34
meLonDoes anybody have experience with multiple x screens and running a launcher of sorts?  I'm trying to create a desktop shortcut (or alternative) on :0.116:34
Sp00kihow can i install grub into the Windows bootloader? Just choose install ubuntu next to Windows?16:36
intraderGood morning, laptop overheating ;as soon as I have a full screen video the temperature goes up (Psensors.temp2 > 97C)- Command acpi -c16:37
intraderCooling 0: LCD 0 of 1516:37
intraderCooling 1: Processor 0 of 1016:37
intraderCooling 2: Processor 0 of 1016:37
intrader. Laptop16:37
katronixSomeone was telling me yesterday that eth0:X was no longer the preferred way to refer to additional IPs. Can someone point me to the correct 'new' way?16:37
RoSievers_Hi, got a ubuntu 12.04 with no space left on \. Also, the package tree ist broken, but „dpkg --configure -a“ can't run because there is no space left. Does anyone has any suggestions?16:39
RoSievers_I'd like to fix either of the two problems16:40
KomzpaRoSievers_: apt-get clean16:40
Komzpaand retry16:40
RoSievers_looks a lot better :-)16:41
intraderGood morning, laptop overheating ;as soon as I have a full screen video the temperature goes up (Psensors.temp2 > 97C); once that temperature is reached the laptop shuts down.  result of acpi -f http://paste.ubuntu.com/5565142/16:41
nsahoois there a repository for installing mysql 5.6.10?16:41
RoSievers_but dpkg it still complains a lot about missing space on \tmp16:41
mdgeorgeMy machine is extremely slow all of a sudden, and it seems to be related to the hard drive. Can anyone help?16:42
RoSievers_„dpkg: unrecoverable error, abort: /.../ can not be createt, there is no more space“16:42
RoSievers_(loosely translated from german)16:43
tgm4883katronix, I've not heard that making a nic alias shouldn't be done via eth#:X anymore16:43
Sp00kiHey Guys :) how can i install grub into the boot partition(Windows is current OS)? Just choose install ubuntu next to Windows while installing ubuntu or manual?16:43
tgm4883RoSievers_, pastebin 'df -h'16:43
nsahooany easy way to install mysql 5.6.10?16:43
Nicolas3DPLIf it's possible to run old Windows graphic programs on Linux(Ubuntu)? Like Protel client 98?16:44
RoSievers_looks like the browser doesn't start, but I'll pastebin it on this machine16:45
Nicolas3DPLPoproszono o sesję wiadomości muzycznych. Proszę nacisnąć ikonę MM, aby zaakceptować.16:45
Nicolas3DPLPoproszono o sesję wiadomości muzycznych. Proszę nacisnąć ikonę MM, aby zaakceptować.16:45
Nicolas3DPLPoproszono o sesję wiadomości muzycznych. Proszę nacisnąć ikonę MM, aby zaakceptować.16:45
Nicolas3DPLPoproszono o sesję wiadomości muzycznych. Proszę nacisnąć ikonę MM, aby zaakceptować.16:46
MyrttiNicolas3DPL: please stop.16:47
mneptok!pl > Nicolas3DPL16:47
ubottuNicolas3DPL, please see my private message16:47
manners13ok have used aptitude to install sogo which seems to have installed an older version16:47
manners13now any setting i change get stored until i restart the sogo server then all the settings are blank16:48
BluesKaj!aptitude | manners1316:48
ubottumanners13: aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT. You may encounter problems on multiarch installs (11.10 and higher) as aptitude cannot currently handle the same package with different architectures being installed at the same time. See http://pad.lv/831768 for more information.16:48
manners13seemed to work better than apt-get16:48
Sp00kiHey Guy how can i install grub into the boot partition(Windows is current OS)? Just choose install ubuntu next to Windows while installing ubuntu or manual?16:48
RoSievers_tgm4883: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5565158/16:49
manners13just strange how no settings are being saved16:49
RoSievers_I did not set that laptop up, btw16:49
tgm4883RoSievers_, <1GB on / is still pretty small16:49
Dudeyup16:50
Dudehello all16:50
Nicolas3DPLSecond question: do you know any huge, high quality emoticons package for pidgin?16:50
BluesKajmanners13, it used to , apt-get is now superior IME , I switched about 18mos ago and haven't had a problem with ap-get at all16:50
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RoSievers_and to increase it I probably need gparted?16:50
manners13apt-get gave me a dependancy16:50
manners13error16:50
mneptokmanners13: maybe the lack of that dependency is what is causing your issue?16:51
klrrcan i use sed(1) so that it finds "<div>" in a file, then adds a string to the line after that? if so how?16:51
katronixtgm4883, Yes I've heard that too, but I don't recall the new way16:52
manners13quite possible but by all means if you can help i will sit and learn16:56
luckybunnyI moved my /home folder to a different, bigger partition, on a different disk, because I figured the space issue was hardware-related. It's clearly not, because I have it again16:57
manners13The following packages have unmet dependencies.16:57
manners13 sogo : Depends: libmemcached6 (>= 0.44) but it is not installable16:57
manners13E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.16:57
manners13thats the error im getting16:57
intraderGood morning, laptop overheating ;as soon as I have a full screen video the temperature goes up (Psensors.temp2 > 97C)- Command acpi -c result in http://paste.ubuntu.com/5565142/16:57
mneptok!info libmemcached616:58
ubottuPackage libmemcached6 does not exist in quantal16:58
c2tarunintrader, are you on ATI graphic card?16:58
llutzklrr:  sed -r 's/<div>/<div style="bla">/g' foo16:58
intraderc2tarun, how do I find out?16:59
mneptokhrm. libmemechached6 exists in 12.0416:59
mdgeorgeHi.  I think my hard drive is failing. Can anyone advise me?16:59
BigC85mdgeorge what makes you think it's failing?17:00
c2tarunintrader, share output of  lspci | grep v17:00
tgm4883mneptok, manners13 looks like it was replaced with libmemcached10 in quantal17:00
luckybunnyanyone~?17:01
mdgeorgeWell, disk access was incredibly slow, making the machine nearly unusable. Googling suggested looking at /var/kern.log17:01
luckybunnyhere's a screenie of what baobab sees http://i.imgur.com/u5vmZRi.png17:01
mdgeorgeWhich has lots of I/O errors in it17:01
c2tarunluckybunny, I am not able to understand your problem, can you please rephrase?17:01
luckybunnythe problem is the disk reading as full17:02
tgm4883RoSievers_, can you pastebin the output of             find /var/log -type f -size +100000k -exec ls -lh {} \; | awk '{ print $9 ": " $5 }'17:02
luckybunnyinterestingly only my home folder17:02
luckybunnyyesterday the 500GB partition was 23% in use, now 100%17:03
skywellcheck out sprunge.us17:03
skywellthat is one hell of a usefull pastebinlike site17:03
BigC85mdgeorge well you're probably correct the drive is on it's last leg.  and should be replace asap what kind of assistance/advice are you looking for?17:03
intraderc2tarun, output of lspci |grep v is http://paste.ubuntu.com/5565203/17:03
llutzluckybunny: ls -lah ~/.xsession-errors17:05
c2tarunintrader, seems like you are on NVidea graphic card, did you install proprietary driver for NVidea?17:05
luckybunnya 363GB file... that's gonna be it17:05
luckybunnytyvm!17:06
mdgeorgeBigC85 Whats the best way to copy everything off of there without causing more damage?17:06
llutzluckybunny: there you go17:06
luckybunnydelete it?17:06
tgm4883truncate it17:06
llutzluckybunny: > ~/.xsession-errors17:06
llutzluckybunny: but if it grows 200GB in 2 days. you should check what it fills and try to correct it17:07
roSieverstgm4883: it does not return anything17:07
* c2tarun don't have enough bandwidth to download 200GBs in 2 days :P17:07
tgm4883RoSievers_, ok, that was a hunch17:07
tgm4883c2tarun, its not downloading17:07
tgm4883c2tarun, it's generating17:08
BigC85to compy the whole drive system files and personal files I'd clone the drive see: www.clonezilla.org17:08
tgm4883roSievers, so maybe it just needs a reboot to recognize the cleared up space, but I'd probably try to free some more space17:08
intraderc2tarun, a list of nvidea drivers is displayed - only one is green and shows that driver is in use.17:08
c2taruntgm4883, yeah, I got that, :) I was just saying it is difficult to download 200GBs if that much amount of error, and probably something is wrong17:08
tgm4883yea something def wrong there17:09
llutzluckybunny: you might set "ERRFILE=/tmp/$USER-xsession-errors" in /etc/X11/Xsession, or even "ERRFILE=/dev/null"  if you aren't interested in the file at all17:09
roSieversI'm gonna reboot it first, tgm488317:09
c2tarunintrader, well then, I can't help you, please hang around someone will surely help.17:09
luckybunnytime to change my desktop background17:09
BigC85mdgeorge to compy the whole drive system files and personal files I'd clone the drive see: www.clonezilla.org17:09
intraderc2tarun, the list is a problem?17:09
c2tarunintrader, what list?17:10
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manners13i did have libmemcached10 already installed17:10
intraderc2tarun, the list from the display "Additional Drivers'17:10
manners13have just tried removing it and doing a apt-get clean17:10
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manners13but the install of sogo comes back with the same error17:11
c2tarunintrader, actually I thought you don't have any graphics drivers installed, so I would have suggested to activate one. But since you are saying it is already activated then I don't know what is heating your laptop that much.17:11
Guest85089is this channel the proper one for support questions?17:12
tgm4883manners13, that is because sogo isn't created for 12.10 apparently17:12
tgm4883!ask | Guest8508917:12
ubottuGuest85089: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience17:12
BigC85mdgeorge does that help?17:12
roSieverstgm4883: just booted up, some other process blocks the dpkg-database, how can I get rid of that?17:12
intraderc2tarun, thanks, there is one activated; I understand17:12
manners13well thats poo17:12
tgm4883roSievers, Its probably just checking for updates, give it a few seconds17:13
roSieversk17:13
tgm4883manners13, where are you trying to install it from?17:13
Guest85089i am new to ubuntu and when ever i try to use thunderbird email application ubuntu crashes to a black screen and i have to enter my password17:13
manners13apt-get17:14
tgm4883manners13, are you on 12.10?17:14
manners13yes17:14
tgm4883hmm17:14
manners13it instaleld the first time but i made an error17:14
tgm4883what error?17:14
manners13so i removed it then done a purge17:14
intraderc2tarun,  PSensor shows the fan at 3067RPM, there is no sound, could that be a problem?17:14
manners13the settings not storing17:14
tgm4883manners13, any files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/  ?17:15
tirengarfioanyone with ubuntu and a mini-itx motherboard?17:15
tirengarfiodoes it work ok?17:15
skywellWhy not17:16
nseagullHello everyone17:16
tirengarfioskywell, is it to me?17:16
BigC85Guest85089 try anothe email app geary nice search for it in the software center17:16
manners13tmortensen-bacula-quantal.list  tmortensen-bacula-quantal.list.save17:16
nseagullCould anyone help me please? :(17:16
skywelltirengarfio: yes, I see no reason mini-itx would not work as long as your processor is supported.17:16
manners13thats the only 2 files in there17:17
tirengarfioso the motherboard doesn't matter? the only thing that i should care is the processor?17:17
tgm4883manners, can you pastebin the output of 'rmadison sogo'17:17
tirengarfioi google it and it seems there is not too much information about it: https://www.google.es/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=mini-itx+intel+ubuntu&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&redir_esc=&ei=t5srUefgE8O0hAe0ooGwDQ17:18
nseagullCould anyone tell me how I can port my fglrx drivers from ubuntu 12.04 to another distro?17:18
nseagullIf its not too much trouble17:18
nseagull=/17:18
manners13http://pastebin.com/WYz8aJb517:18
BergcubeI want to install Ubuntu 12.10 on a computer with 2 large identical disks. So I want to set it up using RAID 1.  After quite a bit of websearching I still haven't found a howto or description of this, so... Is it possible?  In case it is, how?  Many thanks in advance!17:19
gordon__i just tried to install geary mail and ubuntu crashed to a black screen while it was installing geary17:19
Scunizinseagull: why not just install the fglrx drivers provided by that distro?  sounds easier17:19
tgm4883manners13, that looks good. Can you do 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -f install && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install sogo'17:19
skywellnseagull: what distro17:19
tgm4883manners13, I think that should fix it17:19
nseagull@Scunizi I have tried to do that when installing a lot of distros, the only one that didnt crash my desktop was the one provided with 12.04 LTS17:20
nseagullI want to install arch17:20
nseagullTried it some time ago17:20
tgm4883manners13, because sogo requires libmemcached10, not 6 according to http://packages.ubuntu.com/quantal/sogo17:20
nseagullbut crashed my desktop17:20
nseagulland didnt have time17:20
skywellnseagull: have you tried the executable on AMD/ATI's website?17:20
nseagullskywell: yes17:21
skywellnseagull: what other distro were you trying?17:21
manners13http://pastebin.com/ksn1XZvq17:22
manners13unfortunatly not17:22
nseagullskywell: Crunchbang, OpenSUSE, Fedora and some more, dont remember right now17:22
tgm4883bah17:22
skywellnseagull: as far as I know amd/ati only distributes binaries and therefore are not easily ported. It is like they are encrypted. What is your card?17:22
cristian_cHi17:22
skywellFedora has a 50/50 success rate with fglrx17:22
cristian_cI can't browse my android device via bluetooth17:22
tgm4883manners13, i've got to go to a meeting in 8 minutes, can you pastebin '/etc/apt/sources.list'17:22
manners13all the commands seem to go through fine17:22
luckybunnyok... so I kinda still have the 100% usage after fixing... as usual emptied trash, checked all that etc17:22
cristian_cI've found 'Browse Files on Device'17:23
manners13except the last one17:23
nseagullskywell: let me see what card do i have, i think its a 4xxx series17:23
cristian_cbut I get an error17:23
nseagullskywell: the best part is that the ones that work perfectly are the experimental ones17:23
skywell4xxx is not well supported now on linux as far as I know17:23
luckybunnybaobab looks normal, now, but df -h is still reading 100% usage17:23
skywellMan I would love to trade my 570 with you nseagull because 4xxx run well on FreeBeastie17:23
skywell5770*17:23
jacksmithzare there any "premium/paid" themes for gtk/gnome, (like there is premium themes for wordpress, even though its GPL) ??17:23
luckybunnyunless......17:23
nseagullskywell: FreeBeastie?17:24
nseagullskywell: FreeBSD?17:24
ScuniziAfter rebooting this morning after 20 days of being put to sleep nightly, the desktop won't boot.  No grub screen showing at all.  Like it was zapped from the harddrive.  Is there a link for restoring grub?17:24
skywellnseagull:  yea17:24
nseagullskywell: Whats the main difference between Linux and FreeBSD17:24
nseagull?17:24
cristian_cAny ideas?17:25
luckybunnynope17:25
mad__Will there be (semi)official packages for samba-4.x for ubuntu-12.04?17:25
skywellI would stick with linux if I was you but Unix is just like linux but has a userland distributed with the kernel17:25
skywellIt is technically a "full os" as opposed to linux which is a kernel with random userlands of choice17:25
VinceThePrinceis it possible to see all the "apps" I have installed in Ubuntu?17:26
nseagullskywell: ah, I prefer this Linux then =)17:26
skywellLinux has more hw and app support17:26
nseagullskywell: So, any idea to install arch without crashing?17:26
VinceThePrinceI'm doing a clean install and I want to find an easy way to reinstall everything I have now17:26
skywellnseagull: you trying Arch Linux?17:26
skywellnseagull: Is it a 4xxx?17:27
BergcubeUbuntu 12.10 desktop on software RAID 1.....  Possible?17:27
nseagullnseagull: I installed arch once, but when tried to install GNOME on it crashed17:27
nseagullskywell: lol17:27
nseagullskywell: wrote my own name17:27
nseagullskywell: lemme check17:27
skywellnseagull: Oh I thought you were trying to install it on Arch.17:27
brightsparkVinceThePrince: try dpkg –get-selections (warning: there will be a lot)17:28
skywellnseagull: on Ubuntu it is recommended to just install fglrx. fglrx-* is the most up to date, not so stable version.17:28
brightsparkVinceThePrince: sorry dpkg --get-selections17:28
nseagullskywell: radeon hd 420017:28
brightsparktwo hyphens precede the flag17:28
nseagullskywell: yeah, you understood17:28
nseagullskywell: i want to install arch17:28
nseagullskywell: then, install fglrx17:28
VinceThePrincebrightspark, Thank you sir17:29
skywellarch linux? nseagull17:29
nseagullskywell: yeah :P17:29
brightsparkVinceThePrince: glad to help :)17:29
skywellnseagull: have you followed https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/AMD_Catalyst to heart?17:30
VinceThePrincebrightspark, Little problem I can only scroll up to the letter 'N' :D any idea how can I export the whole list.17:30
nseagullskywell: I dont get this part [a legacy driver for Radeon HD 2xxx 3xxx 4xxx is not available in [community] yet]17:30
brightsparkVinceThePrince: try redirecting.  dpkg --get-selections > my-packages.txt17:31
nseagullskywell: Does it mean that its impossible?17:31
VinceThePrincebrightspark, learned something new hah a :D Awesome!17:31
brightsparkVinceThePrince: glad to help :)17:31
nseagullskywell: u there?17:32
roSieverstgm4883: (storage problem) restarting didn't help, and I'm not sure what else I could delete17:32
skywellnseagull: I had to read it for context17:32
skywellAUR is like source code install vs binary install17:32
roSieversAlso, the other Laptop can't use the Internet while I do in chat17:32
skywellThe legacy drivers are not in source version. That is jsut 1 way to install it.17:32
skywellnseagull: so so far so good17:32
nseagullskywell: right now i cant get compiz to work in ubuntu 12.04, and i think its because of my gpu17:33
stupidBOOTi did something stupid. i deleted the contents of "/boot" (including the linux headers) and now when i try to load ubuntu it says its missing files. my harddrive is LVM encrypted. is there anyway to restore the /boot directory and boot up as normal, or do i have to reinstall ubuntu?17:33
skywellnseagull: why do you think that?17:33
skywellI think you can run it from a terminal to view the error messages.17:34
skywellSomeone will know more about compiz than I do here I assume.17:34
VinceThePrinceFinally Upgrading from Ubuntu 10.10 to Xubuntu 12.10  "Drumroll"17:34
nseagullskywell: yeah, i know, the output was lot of opengl errors17:34
profiler1982is it possible to install ubuntu tablet os on netbook17:34
nseagullskywell: should i switch to arch?17:35
nseagullskywell: i love to configure everything from 017:35
skywellnseagull: I would take that output to the forums for a more educated response as I am not too familiar with opengl or its relationship to the graphics driver17:35
skywellnseagull: why do you want to switch?17:35
stupidBOOTplease help. i have deleted the contents of "/boot". my machine won't boot, it says its missing linux headers. how can i restore the /boot folder so ubuntu will work?17:35
ikoniastupidBOOT: you may as well just re-install17:35
Scunizi!grub17:35
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub217:35
ikoniastupidBOOT: you need to put your kernel and all the files back17:35
stupidBOOTikonia, there is nothing i can do?17:35
nseagullskywell: i always thought ubuntu was really "overcrowded"17:35
skywellnseagull: How so?17:36
ikoniastupidBOOT: there is....but you're going to struggle17:36
stupidBOOTmy LVM encrypted harddrive, all of that data is lost?17:36
ikoniastupidBOOT: no not at all17:36
skywellnseagull: Why not debian if you feel a vanilla type setup is more beneficial17:36
ikoniastupidBOOT: you'll need to get a kernel into /boot to be able to boot17:36
skywellArch is a big circle jerk imo. Yea you can make a sweet box but you can do it with any major distro by just doing a minimal install17:36
ikoniastupidBOOT: then you can fix things properly17:36
Darklordhey guys quick question i need java to run Tekkit and im new to Ubuntu as of yesterday can anyone tell me the right java d/l to get in the Ubuntu Software Center?17:36
skywelland other distros wont break as often as arch on you17:36
stupidBOOThow do i get a kernel into boot? the /boot directory is not part of my LVM encrypted harddrive, is it? i am currently on a different OS, maybe i can just download a new kernel?17:36
skywellstupidBOOT: you have to reinstall grub17:37
ikoniaskywell: no he doesn't17:37
roSieverstgm4883: I give up on that problem (storage space, package tree) for now, and pass her on to the one who installed Ubuntu (and should know that stuff better than I do)17:37
ikoniaskywell: grub will fix nothing17:37
nseagullskywell: What I loved about CrunchBang, it was really "empty"17:37
skywellstupidBOOT: look up "Ubuntu live install grub"17:37
roSieverstgm4883: Thanks for your help17:37
oberthello,someone knows f.lux?17:37
bcdonadioquit17:37
[HUN]Bitvilaghi guuyyss i need some help regarding servers....well ubuntu server to be exact:::17:37
stupidBOOTso, load up the ubuntu live CD and reinstall grub, but will that fix the linux headers problem?17:37
ikoniastupidBOOT: no it won't17:37
ikoniastupidBOOT: you are missing your kernel17:38
ikoniastupidBOOT: if you have deleted everything in /boot - grub is not your issue17:38
stupidBOOTso once i reinstall grub, then what do i do? how do i get a kernel into that /boot directory?17:38
skywellikonia: He could boot a live CD copy the /boot from it and paste it where the other one is deleted17:38
SoulShadowso because there's no more #ubuntu-tablet, where do you go if you want to install full ubuntu on a tablet?17:38
stupidBOOTok, so forget grub. where do i get a kernel and how do i get it in my /boot?17:38
ikoniaskywell: no, you'd need to update grub after that17:38
nseagullskywell: so i should look forward to debian instead of arch, at least in this machine?17:38
skywellikonia: And he could17:38
skywellnseagull: What do you mean overcrowded?17:39
stupidBOOTthe kernel, is it specific to my computer or can i just find another one to download?17:39
stupidBOOTi'm a newb when it come sto linux17:39
skywellnseagull: If you are doing a "Hipster" switch where you drop something because it is too popular then I advise you stick with something you know.17:39
stupidBOOT(obivously)17:39
nseagullskywell: not in that way17:39
nseagullskywell: I love linux17:40
nseagullskywell: I want to know more than I know17:40
stupidBOOTOK, i'm going to download a new kernel and put it in the /boot directory17:40
[HUN]Bitvilagcould anyone ...help me regarding ..choosing the best motherboard but still cheap for hosting websites!! I found this q67 chipset which can be hw managed if i understand right i can turn off and on and shit without os...does anyone know anything about this? ever used one these? experience?17:40
nseagullskywell: installing from the basics17:40
SobanSoulShadow: there is ubuntu-touch chan17:40
stupidBOOTwhich kernel should i download?17:40
nseagullskywell helps me to do that17:40
SoulShadowSoban: but that's not the same17:40
SoulShadowthat's for that stupid mobile OS version17:40
skywellnseagull: Why not a Ubuntu minimal install and build up from it.17:40
nseagullskywell: ubuntu its like "plug and play"17:40
stupidBOOTdo i need to install it?17:41
nseagullskywell: minimal instal?17:41
nseagullskywell: what do you mean?17:41
stupidBOOThalp!!17:41
brightsparkstupidBOOT: can you provide info on your system- 64-bit? 12.10?17:41
skywellnseagull: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD17:41
stupidBOOTits an old dell inspiron17:41
Darklordanyone know which java d/l i need for my new Ubuntu 12.10 64bit system?17:41
stupidBOOT32 bit, latest version of ubuntu17:41
skywellnseagull: It is a 28mb install disc.17:41
nseagullskywell: welp17:41
nseagullskywell: you just astonished me17:41
nseagullskywell: lol17:41
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iknofailfustupidBOOT, there are many distributions, all of them have the same basics, but maintained by different people, who see everyday usage in different ways, those people take the source code of kernel in the same place and ship it to their own distro, so if you're running one or another, best kernel image is the one provided by your distro maintaners17:42
skywellnseagull: Here is my issue with distro hopping. You get new utilities configuration files in each distro.17:42
brightsparkstupidBOOT: you can get a .deb here: http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux/linux-image-3.5.0-25-generic_3.5.0-25.38_i386.deb17:42
nseagullskywell: i know, like YUM instad of APT in fedora17:42
stupidBOOTok...17:42
nseagullskywell: its an app ik17:42
skywellnseagull: you may switch to arch in order to learn, and learn you will. But it won't be completely transferrable to another distro because arch chooses certain userland utilities.17:42
stupidBOOTbrightspark, thanks very much!17:42
brightsparkstupidBOOT: I'm not sure how you go about depackaging a deb without being able to boot the system though.17:42
skywellnseagull: Package management is a small piece to the puzzle. Those are easy.17:43
nseagullskywell: i know, but it was the first example that came to my mind17:43
nseagullskywell: =/17:43
stupidBOOTi'm on a live backtrack cd right now, i think i can access the /boot directory of the ubuntu OS on the harddrive... maybe i can just move it there17:43
stupidBOOTits worth a shot. i'm probably going to have to reinstall and lose all my data anyway17:43
nseagullskywell: well...17:44
skywellnseagull: sorry I have been there done that so I have a bittersweet feeling about distro hopping17:44
ikoniastupidBOOT: you don't have to restore17:44
ikoniastupidBOOT: don't restore17:44
nseagullskywell: I know what you mean17:44
skywellnseagull: You have a G+?17:44
nseagullskywell: I have a google acc, does that work?17:45
noffleBizarre. Middle click + drag lets me resize windows using my mouse. However, if I try this on my trackpad (three finger click + drag), it tries to move the window instead. Am I missing something?17:45
ikoniastupidBOOT: you just need to get something to "boot" and then you can issue an  apt-get install linux-image again17:45
nseagullskywell: never used G+17:45
ikoniastupidBOOT: that will re-download everything you need into /boot from the ubuntu repo17:45
Fuzzlesdoing an assignment need peoples opinion. Unity or KDE?17:45
stupidBOOTwait wait...17:45
ikoniaFuzzles: not in this channel please.17:45
intraderGood morning, laptop overheating ;as soon as I have a full screen video the temperature goes up (Psensors.temp2 > 97C)- Command acpi -c result in http://paste.ubuntu.com/5565142/, lspci|grep v output is http://paste.ubuntu.com/5565203/17:45
brightsparkstupidBOOT: I bet there's a trick to depackaging it using chroot and dpkg, but I'm not savvy enough to know it.  ikonia, do you know how he should go about installing the kernel into /boot on his HDD when he's on a LiveCD?17:45
stupidBOOTi deleted everything in my /boot except the grub directory is still there... grub still boots, but it stops when it says its missing the linux kernel17:45
stupidBOOTso maybe i can just drop out to the commandline and then.. issue that command?17:45
skywellnseagull: It is cool. I have a friend on there you might like who uses debian and builds from the ground up.17:46
nseagullskywell: Just tell me17:46
nseagullskywell: One thing17:46
nseagullskywell: please17:46
stupidBOOTi should have been more detailed about this. i deleted the root files in the /boot directory which happened to contain my kernel. the grub directory is still there and grub still loads, but then fails when no kernel is found17:46
prp-eHi17:46
skywellnseagull: ad me bro. https://plus.google.com/104403530798815790521/posts17:46
stupidBOOTso ... if i reboot to that point and drop out to command line, is there a command i can issue to download and rebuild the kernel?17:46
ikoniastupidBOOT: no,17:47
stupidBOOTwhat about "apt-get install linux-image"17:47
stupidBOOT?17:47
nseagullskywell: done17:47
ikoniastupidBOOT: you need to either a.) boot a kernel b.) boot from a livecd and chroot,17:47
brightsparkstupidBOOT: I don't think so- you have no networking drivers at that point so you can't download much.17:47
nseagullskywell: tell me17:47
skywellnseagull: "Listen to your heart" if you love linux each experience is a good one17:47
ikoniastupidBOOT: is your system encypted ? or just a specific volume ?17:47
ptrkmjhello. something strange happened after installing libreoffice-java-common. i wasn't able to start libreoffice and after logging out i wasn't able to log in with my DM. i had to Ctrl-Alt-F1 to console and remove to get back system to work.17:47
stupidBOOTLVM encrypted17:47
skywellnseagull: tell you what now?17:47
ikoniastupidBOOT: so the whole system encypted17:47
nseagullskywell: Ubuntu or Debian, which to choose? I've been distrohopping for 2-3 years with different machines, i'm not afraid17:47
nseagullskywell: haha17:48
stupidBOOTbut there is a 255 filesystem that i think is the /boot directory.. i'm not sure17:48
skywellnseagull: Debian then. Debian testing.17:48
ikoniastupidBOOT: is /boot on a seperate partition ?17:48
stupidBOOTi got an LVM encrypted device i can't access.. and i got a 255meg filesystem17:48
stupidBOOTi think that is the separate boot partition, but i'm not 100% sure17:48
nseagullskywell: Did it appear that I added you?17:48
ikoniastupidBOOT: you need to get sure17:48
JncoHey All17:48
skywellnseagull: Yea just saw it.17:49
stupidBOOThow?17:49
ikoniastupidBOOT: do you have a seperate partition for /boot ?17:49
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nseagullnseagull: Thanks man, going to download debian right now17:49
ikonia(you should have if your running an lvm encrupted setup)17:49
nseagullnseagull: BUT17:49
nseagullnseagull: about the drivers17:49
JncoHey All, was wondering if someone could help me. Is there a way to install vsftpd3 using apt-get? I seem to only be downloading the 2.5 version...17:49
stupidBOOTi don't think so... i would have done a generic ubuntu install17:49
nseagullnseagull: Download from where? o_O Or port17:49
ikoniastupidBOOT: a generic ubuntu install is not lvm encypted17:50
skywellnseagull: Try the legacy driver provided by ati/amd's web site17:50
nseagullnseagull: thank you :)17:50
stupidBOOTi can see a 255M filesystem that is unencrypted that contains a grub folder. i can see a 120G filesystem that is LVM encrypted. and i can see a 118G filesystem that contains all of the "boot/dev/media/sys/temp" folders etc17:50
nseagullnseagull: Now lets pray so it doesnt crash17:50
ikoniastupidBOOT: that sounds like /boot17:50
skywellnseagull: Start here. http://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary17:50
stupidBOOTsorry, i did a generic alternative-instlal17:50
stupidBOOTi didn't muck around with the partitions17:51
skywellnseagull: reading sucks but in this case worth it.17:51
stupidBOOTthe 255meg filesystem sounds like boot?17:51
ikoniastupidBOOT: yes17:51
nseagullskywell: It doesnt suck, as a student it is really useful17:51
stupidBOOTthat is my thinking, it has grub in it17:51
ikoniastupidBOOT: try to mount it17:51
iknofailfuJnco, found it in google http://blog.thefrontiergroup.com.au/2012/10/making-vsftpd-with-chrooted-users-work-again/ but you could always build it from source and make some .deb package with `checkinstall` for example, shouldn't be hard17:51
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stupidBOOTi can access it17:51
ikoniastupidBOOT: what's in it ?17:51
nseagullskywell: And the next year I have a subject about linux so its worth it17:51
JncoHey all, I just upgraded to VSFTPD 3.0.2 using the tarball file, I am having issues with authentication from a PAM file, does anyone have any experience with vsftpd?17:51
nseagullskywell: =)17:51
stupidBOOTgrub folder and lost+found folder17:51
ikoniastupidBOOT: ok,17:51
skywellnseagull: School huh? That is sweet. I can't wait to have a linux class at college ha17:51
ikoniastupidBOOT: so you need to get a kernel in there .....17:51
stupidBOOTi think this is boot, these are the folders that were in the /boot folder before i deleted the files that were there17:52
stupidBOOTyes, thats is right17:52
* skywell Steps out for a ciggeretee ((BRB))17:52
nseagullskywell: I'm an IT student :P17:52
nseagullskywell: I hope we meet again soon17:52
stupidBOOThow do i get a kernel in there? can i just copy and paste it there or do i have to install it or what17:52
nseagullskywell: cya17:52
ikoniastupidBOOT: you can try to get the one from your livecd17:52
skywellnseagull: see you in 10. But yea that would be atrip. Maybe we can do some protfolio work in the near future.17:52
stupidBOOTok good idea i'll fetch my live cd17:52
stupidBOOThmm... i may only have alternative-install, these aren't live cds.... grrr17:53
ikoniastupidBOOT: get a livecd17:53
stupidBOOTwould it matter if i used an old livecd?17:53
ikoniastupidBOOT: get something as close to your version as possible17:54
stupidBOOTok, no access to a live cd, my install cds are all text-install cds because i use LVM :(17:55
stupidBOOTi'll have to find it online somewhere17:55
wNstupidBOOT: perhaps you can hit Ctrl+Alt+f3 to get to a virtual terminal17:55
stupidBOOTi did have a link to that .deb file...17:55
manners13anyone else in here use sogo, im having trouble with it not saving the settings17:55
stupidBOOTbut the problem was is that it didn't fit in the directory17:55
stupidBOOTit says i only have 5Meg left there17:55
stupidBOOTthats part of the reason i deleted all the files in boot, ubuntu update was asking for more room in boot17:55
iknofailfudeleting all files seems legit17:56
brightsparkstupidBOOT: what's eating up all the space in boot?17:56
stupidBOOTthe grub folder it seems17:56
stupidBOOTthere is a folder in /grub called "i386pc" and it contains a whole lotta .mod files, can i delete any of those?17:58
stupidBOOTi'm stuck...17:59
brightsparkstupidBOOT: my /boot/grub is less than 5MB, and my whole /boot is about 180MB.  Not sure what is eating up all your space then.17:59
stupidBOOTwhat folders do you have in your /boot/grub?17:59
brightsparkstupidBOOT: how are you accessing the system now?17:59
stupidBOOTjust through normal file browser17:59
stupidBOOTi'm on a live usb backtrack17:59
brightsparkstupidBOOT: just one, called 'locale'.  16KB.18:00
stupidBOOTi figure if i can delete something in my grub folder to free up space i can then find a linux kernel and copy paste in in there18:00
stupidBOOTjust found what the problem is18:01
stupidBOOTi viewed "hidden files" and there is a trash bin in there with 200 meg in it!18:01
stupidBOOTthat'll be it... now... where do i get myself a kernel?18:01
stupidBOOT.deb file18:01
brightsparkstupidBOOT: check in the trash bin?18:01
stupidBOOTis that a kernel?18:01
stupidBOOToh shit18:02
stupidBOOToops, sorry language18:02
stupidBOOTtrashbin contents got deleted without me checking whats in there.. maybe my kernel was in there18:02
stupidBOOTnevermind18:03
stupidBOOTso i have the linux-image.deb file in the /boot folder, do i need to do anything, compile it, anything? or should i try to reboot as is?18:03
ponch0hey all, I downloaded and installed the LXDE core desktop, restart the machine, and it didn't kick in, where do I enable it?18:04
ponch0Ubuntu 12.0418:04
brightsparkstupidBOOT: That .deb will not work just copy-pasting.  It needs to be depackaged, and I'm not quite sure how to do that.18:04
skywellponch0: When you login you can change your DE18:04
stupidBOOTahh18:04
stupidBOOTis there any way i can get a kernel in there?18:04
ponch0Login on virtual machine, because my login is to automatically log me in, in ubuntu18:05
skywellponch0: Not after not before but after you click your username there should be a ubuntu icon you can change to LXDE18:05
achandrastupidBOOT, yep that dpkg file needs to be extracted...you will need to then check there is appropriate initrd image and vmlinuz files18:05
achandrastupidBOOT, all in /boot18:05
achandrastupidBOOT, make sure there is a grub directory in there too18:05
stupidBOOTgrub directory is in there thats ok18:05
ponch0I don't get that screen because it's disabled skywell.18:06
dr_willisponch0:  log out.. select lubuntu/lxde log in18:06
stupidBOOTso i have to extract the kernel from the .deb18:06
stupidBOOTi've never dealt with .deb before18:06
dr_willismc can copy files from. debs i recall18:06
stupidBOOThmm... maybe, does somebody here have a kernel that is already extracted ready to go?18:06
stupidBOOTor is this specific to my system?18:06
brightsparkstupidBOOT: You cannot just copy-and-paste files in there.18:07
ponch0dr_willis: beautiful thank you.18:07
skywellstupidBOOT: Kernel is specific to Ubuntu18:07
ponch0never occured to me that I could just log out.18:07
stupidBOOTi'm wondering if maybe i should just reinstall...18:07
stupidBOOTthis is all getting too hard18:07
brightsparkstupidBOOT: there are scripts that get run on installation of that kernel, which will not get executed if you just copy-paste files.18:07
stupidBOOTi see...18:07
achandrastupidBOOT, here are your choices, you can dpkg -i that deb file and see if gives you back the initrd image file, and the vmlinuz files and ensures you have a /grub18:08
achandrabut if it doesnt18:08
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stupidBOOTok i'll try that.18:08
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stupidBOOTerrors were encountered18:09
stupidBOOTit can't find something because its not mounted18:10
achandrastupidBOOT, if it doesn't work, and you dont want to go through the pain, reinstall...and live and learn18:10
stupidBOOTi'm going to reinstall18:10
achandrastupidBOOT, better plan is to clearly understand what happened...and spend the time to fix it18:10
achandrastupidBOOT, or if you cant, you know why18:11
achandrastupidBOOT, my point is...it might happen again..and lets say its a critical box...do you know how to fix it/18:11
skywellYou have to be careful what you sudo. You should all set some alias up to use trash as opposed to rm if you are deleting files in sensitive areas18:11
stupidBOOTit all comes down to the fact that there was a hidden .trash bin in there consuming all my resources, when i went to update my ubuntu it said "not enough room in /boot free up some space" so i deleted my kernel headers without seeing the hidden files18:11
stupidBOOTpretty stupid, huh.18:11
stupidBOOTbut thanks very much for all your help guys18:11
achandrabesides having an image and just restore :)18:11
stupidBOOTshame about my lost files on LVM, thats gone now, isn't it?18:11
bezFUCK THE WINDOWS18:11
stupidBOOTachandra, it wont happen again, it was just some random stupid thing i did18:12
achandrastupidBOOT, its all good....we learn like this18:12
stupidBOOTbut the LVM, all my files...18:12
stupidBOOTgone?18:12
achandrastupidBOOT, not necessarily18:12
stupidBOOTits not life or death luckily, i have my bitcoin wallet backed up18:12
stupidBOOTgo on...18:12
achandraif you can boot some how into a live image, i think you can mount the volume18:12
achandraand then scp it over or back it up18:12
brightsparkachandra: he's on a liveUSB18:13
achandraahh18:13
achandracan you mount the volume?18:13
stupidBOOTi tried to mount it by clicking on it in the file system, it wouldn't let me18:13
stupidBOOTit asked me for a password though..18:13
achandraand?18:13
stupidBOOTand then it rejected it18:13
stupidBOOTunmountable18:13
skywellYou encrypted the volume with a passphrase right?18:14
stupidBOOTyep18:14
intraderGood morning, laptop overheating ;as soon as I have a full screen video the temperature goes up (Psensors.temp2 > 97C)- Command acpi -c result in http://paste.ubuntu.com/5565142/, lspci|grep v output is http://paste.ubuntu.com/5565203/18:14
achandraright...18:14
brightsparkstupidBOOT: how were you looking through the trashbin then?18:14
achandrastupidBOOT, decrypt by using the pass, then mount18:14
skywellPassphrase is something your supposed to save18:14
stupidBOOTthe .trash hidden folder was in the /boot folder18:14
stupidBOOTpassphrase is fine, i know the passphrase, but it wont mount it18:14
skywellhow did you view /boot?18:14
stupidBOOTit lets me view the filesystem18:14
skywellwere you looking at the livecd's /boot?18:14
brightsparkstupidBOOT: so you CAN mount the boot partition, but not the root partition?18:14
skywellif its read only you can copy off it18:15
stupidBOOTas though the filesystem is a separate partition or something, i didn't set up partitions, i used a default boot on the alternative text cd18:15
stupidBOOTwell, there is a 255meg device there with a grub folder that i assume is my /boot18:15
stupidBOOTi dunno.. i think i'll just reinstall, this is all a bit too much18:16
stupidBOOTthe LVM, maybe i should grab that for later? copy paste it and hold on to it to see if i can mount it later on18:16
stupidBOOTi'm such a stupid idiot18:16
stupidBOOTdeleting my kernel18:16
stupidBOOTwhat the hell was i thinking18:16
stupidBOOTOK thanks guys18:17
stupidBOOTsee-ya18:17
Dra|nlol18:20
dr_willisi was wondering that also...    ;-)18:20
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Darklordcan anyone help me with running a program automaticaly with Java18:22
coolrootdr_willis: can you help me with this http://paste.ubuntu.com/5564842/ it's my laptops distro in a serious messed up :(18:22
Darklordanyone318:23
Darklordanyone?18:24
prp-e:)18:24
dr_willistheres the .config/autostart  dir  Darklord18:24
Darklordit doesnt show up the oracle java runtime file to associate the file with18:25
dr_willismake a script in that dir18:25
bean__Darklord: stop spammmmming18:26
bean__Darklord: java -jar <jar>18:26
manners13right im trying to use sogo, have now got it installed and trying to use the webmin interface to administer it however if i go into general and tick some of the boxes then click save and i get error Error while saving the following parameter : Workers count .... but this error is simular for each setting page18:26
bean__oh god18:27
bean__webmin18:27
manners13lol18:27
manners13it works for me with most things18:27
manners13i use it to administer bacula18:28
Whiskey`WonkaI have something odd going on with a freshly installed ubuntu18:29
manners13i know theres security issues with it but i use a router and firewall to only allow certain addresses access to sertain ports18:29
Whiskey`Wonkahp proliant with 6x scsi drives18:29
Whiskey`Wonkafirst drive had /boot, 2nd has /18:29
bean__manners13: SOGo looks terrifying too18:29
Whiskey`Wonkawhen it boots grub comes up, select ubuntu then it drops to (initramfs)18:29
manners13yes but its a perfect exchange replacemet with its compatability with outlook18:30
* bean__ works for a company that uses google apps. Done and done.18:30
bean__outlook is disgusting18:30
coolroothttp://paste.ubuntu.com/5564842/ it's my laptops distro in a serious messed up :(18:30
manners13lol but its a business standard18:31
bean__lollllllllll18:31
bean__maybe in your business18:31
manners13mine and many others18:31
Whiskey`Wonkamanners13: outlook is a 'standard' ?18:31
BlitzHereYou can't escape microsoft in business just like you can't escape google on the internet18:31
manners13almost every business i do IT support for18:31
Guest19382Hi. I haven't been able to connect to freenode via tor last few days. anybody having the same problem?18:31
* bean__ would not work for a place with exchange.18:32
bean__Guest19382: that would be a question for #freenode or somesuch18:32
Guest19382thanks18:32
manners13but with exchange not being included in the new small business server it opens up a market if it can be done cheaper than most online retailers18:33
bean__k18:33
Whiskey`Wonkamanners13: i dunno, ive been moving people to gapps for 6? 7? years and everyone has been happier18:33
bean__^18:34
arthurhow can i upodate ubuntu 12.0418:34
bean__arthur: what are you on now?18:34
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Whiskey`Wonkaive had gfyd since it was in beta18:34
manners13anyways can anyone help with why sogo wont save settings18:34
Guest16114beam ubuntu 12.0418:34
Whiskey`Wonkamanners13: permissions?18:34
bean__Guest16114: either update through software center or run "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade" on your command line18:35
ponch0LXDE looks awesome, but how do I make the words inside my terminal bigger, theyre so small i can't see what it says.18:35
manners13well it seems to edit a file in /run/sogo/GNUstep/defaults18:35
bean__manners13: it seems that #sogo is a channel on here18:36
manners13yeah its dead18:36
bean__people there could probably give better answer.18:36
bean__s18:36
manners13more or less no one talks lol18:36
tgm4883outlook != exchange18:36
bean__lol, well i doubt anyone here has ever even heard of sogo.18:36
BlitzHerebean__ that wouldn't change sources.list if I'm not mistaken - he'll jjst get latest precise packages18:36
tgm4883we have people with outlook, but our backend is google apps18:36
profiler1982how to set in /etc/default/keyboard serbian latin layout18:36
bean__BlitzHere: he didn't say update to 12.1018:36
BlitzHereHasn't Gmail dropped support for actuvesync?18:37
tgm4883manners13, if it's editing a file in /run then it's doing it wrong18:37
manners13ok18:37
bean__BlitzHere: only for free gmail.18:37
bean__BlitzHere: it still works for google apps / education, etc18:38
manners13seems the user it created is sogo and thats the home folder for it18:38
BlitzHerebean__ whoops, you're right. But then, shouldn't that be automatic by default....18:38
tgm4883manners13, /run is a temp filesystem18:38
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mauriziociao a tutti18:41
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manners13ok i will move the home folder and see what happends18:41
BlitzHereSo, is it true that ubuntu will become a semirolling distribution from 14.04? With major releases every two years?18:44
dr_willisBlitzHere:  not confirmed.. as far as ive read18:44
dr_willisunless its been anounced recently18:45
BlitzHereNo, nothing new. I just read an old article recently18:45
jeeves_mossis it possible to see/send text messages on my Ubuntu desktop from my Android phone?  I like the fact that I can see who's calling and the txt messages on my XBMC box at home, but I can't figure out how to do it from my laptop18:45
DJonesBlitzHere: Maybe this is recent enough http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/01/ubuntu-not-switching-to-rolling-release-model18:46
iuuso1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c/save18:46
iuusowhoopsie18:46
Whiskey`Wonkauhg, is it normal for grub to be listing dos entries or mentioning dosfs when you have NO dos partitions?18:48
prashant_123456how to seperate front audio jack and rear audio jack ? both are playing music at the same time. using ubuntu 12.0418:50
BlitzHereDJones thanks! That helps18:50
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arthur_how can i put somthing on the start button when i restart its gone18:54
skywellarthur_: what?18:55
arthur_i have installed wine with office 200718:55
arthur_skywell, installed wine with office 2007 and whant a start button18:55
noffleBizarre. Middle click + drag lets me resize windows using my mouse. However, if I try this on my trackpad (three finger click + drag), it tries to move the window instead. Am I missing something?18:55
DJonesarthur_: You'll probably stand more chance of getting an answer to that in the dedicated wine channel #winehq18:56
coolroothttp://paste.ubuntu.com/5564842/ it's my laptops distro in a serious messed up :(18:57
arthur_but how can i put somthing on the start18:57
skywellThere is no start menu in Ubuntu. Wine just runs windows programs18:58
Dra|nheeeh18:58
skywelltechnically you could search for installed wine programs throw dash18:58
skywellwhen you push super and type "office" what pops up?18:58
arthur_skywell ubuntu 12.04 is with unity not18:58
skywellarthur_: what do you have installed? xubuntu?18:59
arthur_skey ubuntu 12.0418:59
DJonesarthur_: Do you mean you want to add microsoft office apps to the Unity bar in Ubuntu?18:59
skywellDJones: yes18:59
arthur_djones yes19:00
skywellDJones: he wants a quik launch shortcut somewhere. Icon based19:00
Dra|ngooooooooooooood19:00
Dra|narthur_, install windows19:00
Dra|nthats all19:00
prashant_123456how to seperate front audio jack and rear audio jack ? both are playing music at the same time. using ubuntu 12.0419:00
DJonesarthur_: I don't use wine so I can't help with that, thats why I suggested asking in the #winehq channel, it may be something they know how to do19:00
Dra|nprashant_123456, in the motherboard unplug what unit do you want disable19:01
arthur_but how can i put something on the unity bar19:01
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skywellarthur_: drag it onto the bar19:01
skywelldrag and drop brosef19:01
Dra|nthats all19:02
Dra|nNESXT!19:02
DJonesarthur_: Once you've got the app open, if you right click on the icon in the unity bar, you may have an option to Lock to the launcher, thats all I can think of19:02
arthur_skeywell i did that but after restart it's gone19:02
lifebird64¿ where can I find a full list (and documentation) of kernel boot options? is that even available for /any/ distros?19:02
Whiskey`Wonkagrub issues maybe mmmm19:02
prashant_123456i want it enabled or disable from software like realtek hd audio manager in windows 7 Dra|n19:03
Whiskey`Wonkaanyone know why on a system with NO dos partition grub is insmod part_msdos and says root=hd0,msdos ?:19:03
Dra|nprashant_123456,  all riht dude see in cpanel ubuntu does it like windows19:03
arthur_how can i remove somthing from dash home19:03
prashant_123456Dra|n, where in ubuntu19:04
Dra|nsystem settings19:04
prashant_123456Dra|n, no there is no option in system settings only sound option and it does not contain any info19:06
arthur_how can i see on command line the partions19:07
noffleIs there any way to disable three finger touchpad click + drag from moving windows? I'm not seeing anything in ccsm.19:07
prashant_123456only output input hardware etc in sound Dra|n19:07
KverasInteracting with tabs in Chrome or Chromium sometimes (2-5 times per day) crashes my X server. This happens both in Unity and Awesome WM. What log should I read to find the problem?19:08
intraderAnyone, Good morning - I am having an overheating problem with Lenovo t61p laptop running Linux 12.10. The problem occurs when displaying video at full screen or when a web page has a lot of video clips. Google shows that many laptop users have overheating laptops. Is there a bug in ubuntu?19:08
Lazikhey intrader: open a terminal and type : lsmod19:09
Lazikto find out your graphic card (ati, nvidia, intel)19:10
lifebird64lazik: for me? lsmod? thx.19:10
lifebird64oh. wait. not 4 me.19:10
Lazikintrader: actually sudo lshw might be more useful19:11
intraderLazik, how do I pastebin this long output?19:14
Dra|nprashant_123456, cant help you dude im sorry go search in google19:15
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Guest83329what is the sintax that i have to put to mount my nfts disk on boot in  /etc/fstab19:17
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Lazikintrader: you can do : sudo lshw > lshw.txt           that will output to a file, check the graphic card section and check the company name (nvidia, ati, ...)19:17
_genuser_Guest83329: http://askubuntu.com/questions/113733/how-do-i-correctly-mount-a-ntfs-partition-in-etc-fstab19:18
DJonesintrader: If you've got the command pastebinit installed, you can do "sudo lshw | pastebinit" which will give you a link to list in the channel19:19
intraderLazik, DJOnes, cool, the output of lshw http://paste.ubuntu.com/5565605/19:21
intraderLazik, DJOnes, how do I pastebin the graphics section?19:25
wachpwnskiWhat is a good program to store login and passwords with? or a good encryptions container to use?19:26
cerebratehow do i make a script to disable my touchpad from bootup19:26
tgm4883wachpwnski, I use lastpass19:27
tgm4883wachpwnski, but if you want to keep it locally, keepass19:27
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Guest16586Anyone here attempting to flash ios device to ubuntu touch?19:27
Guest83329how can i remove somthing form dash home19:28
Guest16586Anyone here attempting to flash ios device to ubuntu touch?19:28
IdleOne!touch | Guest1658619:29
IdleOne!phone19:29
ubottuInformation about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch19:29
detrix42I need help with setting up apache2. in #apache2 channel there is only one other person there besides myself.  Is there a better channel to get help?19:29
Zentaurhi19:30
Zentaurcould anybody help me with my conection manager?19:30
ZentaurI use ubuntu 12.04 and internet wors on it but it detects no conection19:31
intraderLazik the graphics section of lshw is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5565633/19:32
ZentaurI repaired t by editing a fle long ago but I can't remember now.19:32
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detrix42ls19:32
detrix42dam wrong widnow19:32
debeerHi, can anyone help me to set up my laptop's internal 3G? Option GTM 378 (Internal Mini PCi-e).19:34
debeerHi, can anyone help me to set up my laptop's internal 3G? Option GTM 378 (Internal Mini PCi-e).19:37
debeerI am using Ubuntu 12.0419:37
pc_magasdebeer does it see as usb cd rom?19:37
pc_magasthen it nees a command to fix this (which I do not know)19:37
debeerIt shows when I us lsusb but there's no icon on the desk.19:38
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debeerHi, can anyone help me to set up my laptop's internal 3G? Option GTM 378 (Internal Mini PCi-e).19:41
debeer From the articles I read I need to use USB_MODESWITCH to fix this but I can't find clear instructions on this?19:41
intraderLazik anything else about the overheating problem? How is the display involved?19:42
KI4ROdebeer, Asking over and over and over again will not help.  be patient19:42
Pwnguin1So is this channel for general discussion about Ubuntu or just for help with the OS?19:44
kostkonPwnguin1, this channel is for support, #ubuntu-offtopic is for discussion19:45
marahinHelp with issues rather.19:45
Pwnguin1Allright19:45
Mip5Hi - "Reading package lists..." takes several minutes (10 or more) and used to be very fast. System ubuntu 12.04.1 dual quad core processors, 24 gigs of ram. Any ideas? Software raid, but /proc/mdstat shows no errors. Thoughts?19:46
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detrix42I just put up a web server at home. Ubuntu server "LAMP".  I have a registered domain name, and its pointing to my home server. I want the www directory in my /home dir on the server.   I have change all config files to point to different www directory, but now apache2 reports "do not have permission to access /"  How do I correct this?19:47
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VinceThePrincmmm i upgraded from xubuntu 12.04 to 12.10 and some feat. were removed?19:52
VinceThePrincis the upgrade worth it? or is 12.04 just find19:52
An-IP-BreAKDoWN12.04 is just fine19:53
newbie5thDayi m using ubuntu 9.1  and i  receive this error  can not recover  http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/karmic/main/source/Sources.gz  404  Not Found [IP : 91.189.92.200 80]19:54
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newbie5thDayi m using ubuntu 9.1  and i  receive this error  can not recover  http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/karmic/main/source/Sources.gz  404  Not Found [IP : 91.189.92.200 80]19:56
DJonesnewbie5thDay: 9.10 is end of life, its no longer supported19:56
ioriayep, me too .. i'm using commodore 64 but i cannot install ubuntu ....19:57
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Lazikintrader: Nvidia graphic cards use the nouveau driver in general. You can verify this with lsmod. In most case the nouveau driver fails to control the fan of the graphic card to prevent overheating19:57
GeekSquidnewbie5thDay: you can upgrade it see /msg ubottu !eol19:57
Lazikintrader: you can google how to install the nvidia proprietary driver, it might fix the issue19:58
newbie5thDayDJones: it s for educational purposes that i use 9.119:58
newbie5thDayGeekSquid: : it s for educational purposes that i use 9.119:59
bean__newbie5thDay: well, you can't get updates on 9.10 any more19:59
bean__newbie5thDay: and no one will support it, since it is end of life'd19:59
bean__!eol | newbie5thDay20:00
ubottunewbie5thDay: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades20:00
Venks_how do i make the unity icons smaller than the size 32 ?20:00
GeekSquidbean__: Wrong ... you can update it20:00
bean__to a new release.20:00
bean__but the ubuntu repos won't work20:00
bean__i dont think20:00
GeekSquidnewbie5thDay: we have new releases every 6 months, and karmic is from 2009 and is no longer officially supported, there are upgrade paths from 9.1 or if you need to install something from that repository it would be located at http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ ... you will need to update your sources.list20:00
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Venks_anyone ?20:01
gmachine_24Greetings all. Simplistic question re: running a 'headless' server (or computer); what happens when the headless computer shuts down unexpectedly, say from a power failure? Must I connect a monitor to it to reboot and log in? I know this is a newbie question.20:01
icirausHi! I recently installed ubuntu and noticed that in Empathy i can no longer add Facebook chat, its says to authorize and opens the browser..? and the browser just says "success". Is there a work around? i know this was not an issue on a recent install i had on ubuntu.20:01
bean__gmachine_24: no, normally you would have an SSH server installed.20:02
intraderLazik, the nvidea driver shows as installed - what is the nouveau driver - sound like a the  driver is not controlling the fan?20:02
gmachine_24bean__: which means, what, I'm sorry; that I'm always connected via ssh to another computer?20:02
bean__gmachine_24: yes, you would connect with either putty on windows or using the SSH command from another linux box.20:03
bean__gmachine_24: the local login will not matter.20:03
GeekSquidgmachine_24: sounds like you need to set in your bios to have the computer automatically start after powerloss/restore, you can log into it via ssh remotely provided it is connected to the network and has a public IP that you can connect to20:03
gmachine_24and...... I do not have ssh server installed on that computer; do I need to install that?20:03
intraderLazik, this is the lsmod output http://paste.ubuntu.com/5565730/20:04
bean__gmachine_24: apt-get install openssh-server20:04
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newbie5thDayGeekSquid: bean  ubottu : ok do i have to replace./remove   this line  or what.?20:05
gmachine_24bean__: OK, thanks. Currently it's connected to my home network with an ip addy like 192.168.xx.xxx etc.20:05
newbie5thDayGeekSquid: bean  ubottu : ok do i have to replace./remove   this line  or what.?20:05
newbie5thDayGeekSquid bean  ubottu : ok do i have to replace./remove   this line  or what.?20:06
bean__yeah, that makes sense, gmachine_24. If you want to externally you'll have to do some port forwarding on your router20:06
bean__!patience newbie5thDay20:06
bean__!patience | newbie5thDay20:06
ubottunewbie5thDay: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/20:06
bean__newbie5thDay: also, ubottu is a bot20:06
Lazikintrader: the nouveau driver is an open source version of the nvidia driver. It can be many things like the driver for linux for your motherboard, your cpu fan or your graphic card is using incorrect voltages or that the fan controlling algorithm is not very efficient. Meaning that it will let the temperature go too high. Can't help you more than that20:06
newbie5thDaysorry guys it was an accident --"20:07
GeekSquidnewbie5thDay: please don't repeat, we have to think for a minute sometimes, ... you will need to edit /etc/apt/sources.list and change every http://archive.* to http://old-releases.* ... type "gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" into your terminal20:08
intraderLazik, it gives me a good start to look at the fan control of the nvidia driver shows 3D-accelerated proprietary graphics driver for NVIDIA cards. Required if you want to run Unity. It is active20:09
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moultonrAll of the tutorials I see for rooting an LG VS910 phone are for Windows.  Where's a linux user to go?20:10
GeekSquidmoultonr: xda-developers.com20:10
Pwnguin1 I'm new to IRC and such so I don't know much about it. Who are FloodBot1, 2 and 3? What do they do?20:11
newbie5thDayGeekSquid: done   and again sorry for the repeat thing it was an accident :)20:11
bean__Pwnguin1: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Floodbots20:12
ryanneufeldI'm trying to do an update, and I"m getting this error "update-gconf-defaults: error: Destination directory does not exist."20:12
Pwnguin1TY20:12
GeekSquidPwnguin1: If somebody comes in and starts spamming the channel they will get kicked by the floodbots20:12
ryanneufeldanyone have any idea what's up with20:13
newbie5thDaynow this is my what source list  contain after the modification deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu karmic-security main restricted multiverse20:13
ryanneufeldupdate-gconf-defaults: error: Destination directory does not exist."20:13
newbie5thDaydeb-src http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu karmic-security restricted main universe #Added by software-properties20:13
newbie5thDaydeb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu karmic-security universe20:13
Premnathhi all could any one help me how to install the tar.bz2 files in ubuntu12.04?20:13
GeekSquidryanneufeld: you are also running a unsupported version of ubuntu20:13
bean__!paste | newbie5thDay:20:13
ubottunewbie5thDay:: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.20:13
ryanneufeldGeekSquid: what?20:13
bean__!patience ryanneufeld20:13
intraderLazik, noticed that the fan output of PSensor shows it varies (fan1 3059RPM), yet I don't hear it How do I verify this?20:13
bean__!patience | ryanneufeld20:14
ubotturyanneufeld: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/20:14
moultonrGeekSquid, either my phone isn't listed, or their search is broken.  I hunted for LG and got nothing, though I see the Optimus in the forum, so I'm guessing search is borked.20:14
bean__Premnath: what software are you attempting to install20:14
ryanneufeldGeekSquid: I"m running 12.04 LTS... how is that not supported?20:14
GeekSquidryanneufeld: sorry, i was wrong.. what was gconf trying to update when the error was thrown20:15
GeekSquidmoultonr: I'd take your question to #android or another associated channel, this is ubuntu support we don't support phones YET20:16
yownIs there a way to dd or 0fill a partition, rather then the whole drive?20:16
moultonrGeekSquid, yet.  heh...20:17
GeekSquidmoultonr: they just released the source http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/phone ... I got to see it this weekend and play with it, had beers with Jono Bacon, really awesome weekend at SCALE in Los Angeles20:18
moultonrGeekSquid, there probably ought to be a whole other chat for phones though once they go live.20:19
GeekSquidmoultonr: Yeah, We Got That! #ubuntu-touch20:20
yownanyone?20:22
smallfoot-hmm20:23
smallfoot-How can I get a list of packages that are installed by default in Ubuntu, but is not installed on my system?20:23
smallfoot-Also, how can I get a list of packages that are on my system, but not part of the default Ubuntu install?20:23
detrix42I just put up a web server at home. Ubuntu server "LAMP".  I have a registered domain name, and its pointing to my home server. I want the www directory in my /home dir on the server.   I have change all config files to point to different www directory, but now apache2 reports "do not have permission to access /"  How do I correct this?20:24
unheedingsmallfoot-: for your first query, there are some "meta packages" that have as "dependencies" all the packages of a normal ubuntu install20:25
unheedingsmallfoot-: i think "ubuntu-desktop" is one of them.  try and install it and see what dependencies it brings in20:25
smallfoot-unheeding, it is obviously already installed20:26
unheedingsmallfoot-: then you have all the regular ubuntu packages installed20:26
smallfoot-unheeding, unless i, someone, or something have uninstalled a package20:26
unheedinganother one is called ubuntu-minimal20:27
GeekSquidsmallfoot-: and that can happen when installing other packages20:27
mango1_If I want to route my traffic from my laptop through an ubuntu server I have at home, where would I start?20:27
smallfoot-GeekSquid, yeah, and when upgrade dist, some packages are no longer part of ubuntu, and others are new20:28
GeekSquidmango1_: make your server a router20:28
yownIs there a way to dd or 0fill a partition, rather then the whole drive?20:28
bean__detrix42: change the permissions so that apache can access. it probably needs to be set to "chgrp www-data foldername" and then make sure that it is group readable20:29
GeekSquidsmallfoot-: correct, always check, if you are running something special in production, always dev test an upgrade20:29
smallfoot-GeekSquid, so how can I find out what packages are on my system but no longer part of Ubuntu? and how can I find packages that are not on my system, but part of Ubuntu?20:29
mango1_GeekSquid: sorry, I mean if I'm on my laptop on another wifi network (say at a coffee shop) and want to tunnel through an ubuntu machine on a separate network (say may apartment)20:30
GeekSquidmango1_: you could setup a tor server20:30
Guest1312quit20:31
GeekSquidmango1_: essentially using your apartment server as a proxy... the other way would be to create a vpn on the home server and connect through it20:31
mango1_GeekSquid: that seems unsafe for my purposes20:31
mango1_GeekSquid: ah, yeah a VPN20:31
GeekSquidmango: it is called VPS .. we use it all the time20:32
detrix42bean__: so only the group needs to be www-data?20:32
bean__probably20:32
mango1_GeekSquid: sorry I meant making a tor node for my traffic.20:32
mango1_GeekSquid: I will look into setting up a VPN20:32
GeekSquidmango1_: you'll need to open up an ip on the outside router and point the VPS port to the ubuntu server, you'll either have to have a static ip or use something like no-ip20:34
mango1_yown: same way you would a drive, no? dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda3 bs=x count=y20:34
GeekSquidChecking out... back in a while20:35
mango1_GeekSquid: I was actually just looking at DynDNS -- I didn't know that was a pay-service now. Once I get a static address, what program should I use for a VPN?20:35
GeekSquid!vpn20:36
ubottuFor more information on vpn please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VPN20:36
GeekSquidmango1_: you could write a script to email you the IP address of the outside network once an hour or so,, another option20:37
mango1_GeekSquid: I was actually just thinking about doing that with a cron job. Thanks for the idea20:38
gmulakGeekSquid:  Great to see you there, and thanks for your help.   And yes, the phone was cool.  I was very nice of Jono Bacon to sign my copy of his book, he was great to talk to.20:38
skorasaurus!bug20:39
ubottuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.20:39
markovhanyone know any quick keyboard switcher options? i want to try using dvorak but i want to be able to quickly switch back frequently20:39
packetfrogagh20:39
storrgieWeird question for this group... but with a host of technical people someone might have done this. I'm looking to convert my families 8mm tapes to files. I am a linux user and was hoping I could buy a device that would do this for me (like the VHS to DVD devices) but it looks like I need to get a capture card20:39
storrgieLong question short: has anyone used capture cards in linux successfully and would you be willing to recommend one?20:39
* _goxxsy_ veche ! :-) :D20:40
trueneumarkovh: what exactly do you mean? What stops you from using standard layout changing hotkeys?20:41
elisa87Why am I receiving this error ? ldd /home/jalal/Desktop/hpctoolkit/gpu_install/libexec/hpcviewer/hpcviewer  :: not a dynamic executable20:42
markovhtrueneu: you mean hotkeys for changing the layout from qwerty to dvorak?20:42
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gmulakstorgie:  Here is one source you could try.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToCaptureDigitalVideo.20:43
smallfoot-http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/raring-desktop-amd64.manifest20:43
trueneuelisa87: probably because it's compiled statically, or it's not an executable at all. I might be wrong.20:43
smallfoot-here is a list of packages installed by default20:43
mehdi_How can whats added to update-rc.d to run - i want to know users / rights on which services are being run20:43
trueneumarkovh: yup, exactly. I use three layouts, qwerty, dvorak and ru and switch between them with the windows key.20:44
markovhtrueneu: how exactly?20:44
woozlyguys, how to speed up Ubuntu-Server 12.04 boot time?20:45
coolroothttp://paste.ubuntu.com/5564842/ it's my laptops distro in a serious messed up :(20:45
woozlybase install20:45
markovhat what stage does it apply btw? i want to keep my desktop manager and ttys as qwerty to stop myself getting locked out20:45
woozlyI'm on linode, and ubuntu-server boot time too long. ~ 40-60 secs20:45
woozlybut on work I have Centos and it bootup ~ 15-20 secs20:46
trueneumarkovh: it's configured with GUI in keyboard settings section in your system settings. I may mess the exact captions though.20:46
markovhsure but there isn't a predefined one for changing keyboard settings, new ones require a command so i assume there's some command you're using to change the layout?20:46
trueneumarkovh: nope, it`s all configurable with ubuntu`s GUI. You can choose from winkeys, alt/shift/ctrl combinations etc etc.20:48
packetfrogIm sure you can google it.20:48
Dave77can somebody give me link to script that can playback youtube from the command line?20:50
fidelDave77: playback? or download?20:50
coolroothttp://paste.ubuntu.com/5564842/ it's my laptops distro in a serious messed up :(20:50
elisa87 ldd ./hpcviewer::not a dynamic executable :: does anyone know the reason and if there's a fix to this?20:52
Akshayrwhat is Unity in ubuntu?20:52
Akshayri s it by default installed20:52
Akshayr?20:52
fidelAkshayr: yes it is a default package20:53
trueneuelisa87: what exactly are you trying to achieve?20:53
Akshayrso how can i access it>20:53
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fidelAkshayr: by default you do nothing - install from a current default ubunut desktop iso  and login after install andyou'll see and use unity already20:54
fidelDave77: take a look at youtube-dl20:54
Akshayrfidel:thank u20:54
elisa87trueneu: to run the executable  hpcviewer20:54
trueneuelisa87: ldd is for finding out shared library dependencies.20:55
coolroothttp://paste.ubuntu.com/5564842/ pls anyone help been here for 3 or more hours :(20:55
bulletrulzi have a problem with my lubuntu install everything is a little cut off at the top of the mointer20:55
Akshayrurgent help!!!! i unknowingly clckd ctrl-z while i was updating my ubuntu20:56
Akshayrcan i resume it >20:56
Akshayrany command?20:56
trueneuelisa87: why just not actually run it? And probably give it a chmod +x, and probably do 'file -s ./hpcviewer' just to make sure it's a binary file.20:56
leaked_hot[HOT][LEAK][FRESH][VENDETTA] => http://pastebin.com/i1pZMzbW || deface it for fun and profit!20:58
gmulakbulletrulz:  There is most likely a problem syncing your monitor.  Ubuntu may need a different driver for the video card.  Try a different monitor, or different video card, if you can?20:59
Akshayrbest site to learn python??21:00
bulletrulzgmulak, no cause installed lubuntu on this system and it worked flawlessyly21:01
TechSmurfprobability of dist-upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04 going horribly wrong?21:01
elisa87trueneu:   file /home/jalal/Desktop/hpctoolkit/gpu_install/libexec/hpcviewer/hpcviewer21:02
elisa87/home/jalal/Desktop/hpctoolkit/gpu_install/libexec/hpcviewer/hpcviewer: ELF 64-bit MSB executable, 64-bit PowerPC or cisco 7500, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.4.19, not stripped21:02
VinceThePrinceI'm in the settings editor I have edited the key "<Super>d" but to what command do I have to bind it to show desktop?21:02
PinocchioCiao Popolo Di #ubuntu -> mIRC Explorer 2.0b <-21:02
CHRISHPHey there, I'm running an HP pavilion g6 2244ca, 64 bit, I'm having difficulty getting the wireless to work21:02
trueneuelisa87: do an uname -a, plaease.21:02
PinocchioUn Saluto A Tutti Di #ubuntu -> mIRC Explorer 2.0b <-21:03
Akshayrquit21:03
elisa87trueneu:  Linux dfyhs5l1 3.2.0-38-generic #61-Ubuntu SMP Tue Feb 19 12:18:21 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux21:03
trueneuelisa87: I might know what the problem is. That binary is compiled for a horribly another architecture using a horribly different kernel.21:05
trueneuSo, no chance to run it at all.21:06
trueneuelisa87: just download a fresh version and compile it on your system.21:07
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coolroothttp://paste.ubuntu.com/5564842/ pls anyone help been here for 3 or more hours :(21:11
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trueneucoolroot: probably the problem is with how you asking for help. Just a thought.21:11
coolroottrueneu: so that's why i'm providing a link not for me to explain21:12
packetfrogcoolroot whats the problem?21:13
packetfrogin your words.21:13
coolroothttp://paste.ubuntu.com/5564842/ packetfrog21:13
packetfrogin your words.21:13
genii-aroundLooks like trying to boot from sda7 which I don't think is possible21:14
coolrootpacketfrog:  just tryin to give the link everything is in there can't even explain it so why ask me?21:14
packetfrogcoolroot Then do not ask for help21:15
packetfrogWhen asking for help state your problem, what you did, what happened, and what you expected to happen.21:15
coolrootpacketfrog: so what's the point of ubuntu bug report then?21:15
fidel!details21:15
ubottuPlease give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."21:15
dwatkinsWhat would the summary of this bug report be, coolroot?21:15
packetfrogNo one in here cares enough to read through a ten page log. without knowing what they are looking for first.21:15
tgm4883coolroot, that is information from a script made in order to give you information about your systems booting21:16
coolrootok thanx!21:16
tgm4883coolroot, is that not what you were looking for?21:17
coolroottgm4883: thank you21:17
packetfrogcoolroot: I am not trying to be rude FYI. I would like to help... :P21:17
coolrootpacketfrog: np....21:18
trueneuOfftopic: '/etc/grub.d/README: 6: Syntax error: "(" unexpected' looks fascinating.21:18
Boris___nick Boris_21:19
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dn4I forgot my password to log into my system; any way to recover it21:19
tgm4883trueneu, why update-grub is trying to use README doens't make sense21:20
dn4wait just remembered it21:20
dn4F yeah21:20
bizhanMonahi the command "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:f-muriana/ubuntu-builder" fails does anyone knows why?thx21:21
TheLordOfTimebizhanMona, what error(s) did it give?21:21
trueneutgm4883: indeed it doesn`t.21:22
bizhanMonaTheLordOfTime: http://pastebin.com/ZAbG4uWi   thanks21:23
l43lkr0lHi there, I just installed Ubuntu 12.10 and it's all completely new for me (I've never used linux before) but I've read I could get some help here.21:23
TheLordOfTimebizhanMona, pycurl.error: (7, "couldn't connect to host")  <-- networking issue21:23
k1ll43lkr0l: just ask21:23
tgm4883!ask | l43lkr0l21:23
ubottul43lkr0l: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience21:23
TheLordOfTimebizhanMona, i think it couldn't connect to LP or whatever21:23
bizhanMonaTheLordOfTime: Thanks21:23
TheLordOfTimebizhanMona, i just did that in a VM to test, it works here, so it must be at your end21:24
bizhanMonayes, I think there is a proxy setting, thanks so much21:24
l43lkr0lThat's very kind of ya guys! So here's my first problem - I installed Hedgewars via Ubuntu apps center. It opens just fine, I can see the menu and settings, however when I try to begin a new game it freezes the game. It says "game in progres" but nothing more happens.21:26
CHRISHPcan someone help me? I really cannot get my wifi working,21:26
CHRISHP02:00.0 Network controller: Ralink corp. Device 329021:26
CHRISHP02:00.1 Bluetooth: Ralink corp. Device 329821:26
CHRISHP04:00.0 Unassigned class [ff00]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. Device 5229 (rev 01)21:26
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FloodBot1CHRISHP: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.21:26
CHRISHP05:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller (rev 05)21:26
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unheedingCHRISHP: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185026721:29
unheedingit's old, but it should work for you21:29
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CHRISHPthank you very much I'll look into it now,21:29
l43lkr0lOk I see noone knows a solution, so I'll try with another one. I use pidgin for this IRC chann, can I do something to turn off notification about people entering, leaving this channel?21:30
CHRISHPsigh.. unfortunately I already did these exact instructions , they were posted on another website21:31
packetfrog<l43lkr0l> ask about hedgewars in #hedgewars21:31
unheedingl43lkr0l: you should be able to ignore join/parts.  i don't know the instructions for pidgin, i use irssi21:31
trueneul43lkr0l: search for a 'show join/part messages' or something setting.21:31
dn4how do I see a list of all the hardware recognized on my ubuntu21:31
dn4my wireless pci card isn't showing up21:32
unheedinghttp://wiki.xkcd.com/irc/Hide_join_part_messages#Pidgin.2FGaim -> l43lkr0l21:32
l43lkr0lThanks unheed, I'm checking it up21:32
ryanneufeldCan someone help me figure this out? http://pastebin.com/DcHDGK3p21:32
ryanneufeldI was called away earlier :S21:32
MinnesotaBrohey guys21:32
trueneudmidecode and lspci might be able to help you, dn4.21:34
unheedingryanneufeld: try "sudo update-gconf-defaults"21:34
ryanneufeldunheeding: tried that21:34
ryanneufelddidn21:34
ryanneufeld't work21:34
k1lryanneufeld: first of all, root login is not the ubuntu way. next is: what ubuntu version? what PPAs?21:35
dn4my pci wireless card is now showing up; how do I get ubuntu to look for it on my pci slots21:35
l43lkr0lWhat is the quickest way to change channel? e.g to go to #hedgewars?21:35
ryanneufeldk1l: default ppas and 12.0421:35
l43lkr0lUsing pdigin21:35
Scarberianso all of a sudden, my unity application switcher backround turned green. is it moldy?21:35
k1ll43lkr0l: /join #channel21:36
trueneul43lkr0l: just do '/join hedgewars'21:36
l43lkr0lthank you!21:36
trueneuOh sry. I forgot the #21:36
k1lryanneufeld: can you pastebin a "sudo apt-get update"?21:36
ryanneufeldk1l: I think I got it21:36
K350howto set what groups a fiel should belong to?21:37
ryanneufeldI just did an apt-get remove --purge gconf221:37
ryanneufeldk1l: this is a headless machine, or at least it is now.21:37
GeekSquidK350: where, what dir, what is it being used for, who needs access to it???21:37
k1l!pastebinit | ryanneufeld21:38
ubotturyanneufeld: pastebinit is the command-line equivalent of !pastebin - Command output, or other text can be redirected to pastebinit, which then reports an URL containing the output - To use pastebinit, install the « pastebinit » package from a package manager - Simple usage: command | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com21:38
trueneuK350: man chown21:39
K350c21:39
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bilou23when trying to  install VLC from the store, it asks me for the root password, I don't know it, I've never set it, I tried with mine witouth success, what should I do?21:43
Scarberianhow do I change unity launcher color. Mine somehow became green21:43
LaserSharkScarberian, this means the launcher is sick, give it an ibuprofen and wait a day21:45
LaserSharkScarberian, if that doesn't work see this link http://www.noobslab.com/2012/04/install-unsettings-tweak-tool-on-ubuntu.html21:46
Scarberianhmm in my googling I found that it chooses its color from the pixel in the center of the wall paper21:46
Scarberiani did change to a green wally today21:46
k1lScarberian: that colors to the background21:46
Scarberianyeah, the backround of my unity launcher is green now21:47
k1lbilou23: the "sudo" password is the password for that user21:47
Dave77how do I list all the apps installed on ubuntu in a menu?21:47
Dave77(like old ubuntu)21:47
k1lDave123: press super+a21:48
k1lDave123: on the right side there is a menue to open21:48
sk1pperhi all, can somebody tell me how to find which command is executed when i start a program? i am using ubuntu 12.0421:48
bulletrulzi have a problem with lubunut for some reason the top of the screen looks like a little tiny bit is cut off21:49
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kirk601hi everybody21:51
kirk601anyone remember helping me yesterday? or talking to me? about ssd's and hard drives?21:52
k1l!ask | kirk60121:52
ubottukirk601: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience21:52
kirk601ubottu: sure thing, that's not what i'm doing though... bot21:52
ubottukirk601: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)21:52
kirk601ubottu: i know you aren't intelligent. you were just wrong like one minute ago.21:53
ubottukirk601: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)21:53
k1lkirk601: instead of fooling around you could ask a specific technical support question :/21:54
kirk601kil, there's nobody to talk to and the person i need isn't here.21:55
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kirk601they were gabbing up a storm yesterday, if you aren't asnwering a question are you not allowed to talk here?21:55
k1l!ot > kirk60121:55
ubottukirk601, please see my private message21:55
kirk601or asking21:55
Myrttikirk601: you could check the logs for the nickname21:56
kirk601Myrtti: thanks for the tip, but i'm not sure irssi does logs, if it does i dunno how to check em lol21:57
kirk601Myrtti: i'll google it, ty again21:57
Myrttikirk601: then again I don't know what nickname you used yesterday21:57
kirk601Myrtti: the same21:57
Myrtti!logs | kirk60121:57
ubottukirk601: Official channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ . LoCo channels are now logged there too; for older LoCo channel logs, see http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/21:57
DJones!logs | kirk60121:57
fragend_2013Could anybody tell me how to set a specific bitrate to 54 Mbit? - to limit it I mean. I have WiFi problems and just trying some solutions, - beginner so dont know the tricks21:58
TravelianHello there.21:58
TravelianI'm having some problems with my laptop graphic card with ubuntu 12.10.21:59
TravelianI only get 300 fps with glxgears...21:59
TravelianAnd youtube videos are a big pain to watch...21:59
k1lTravelian: glxgears is _not_ a benchmark21:59
bilou23k1l: ok, I don't know it, and by searching I found I shouldn't change it, it is a generated hash and instead I should do "sudo ..." but i'm not on the command line.. it's the ubuntu store21:59
trueneufragend_2013: probably you just want to switch off the n modulation mode?21:59
TravelianI have a Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller21:59
Traveliank1l, well, maybe youtube is :P21:59
TravelianThe thing is it's really really slow...22:00
fragend_2013@trueneu yes I think this is it22:00
Travelianmaybe its driver related...22:00
TravelianCan someone aid me?22:01
TravelianCause the rest of ubuntu is running PERFECTLY.22:02
trueneufragend_2013: probably you want something like 'sudo iwconfig wlan0 modu 11g' . If it doesn't work, try to google the instructions for your specific adapter.22:03
jdukietI just tried using the "grub-customizer" to change my boot order, and it didn't work. Does anyone know what the issue is ? I'm running 12.04 LTS.22:03
trueneufragend_2013: I can't remember exact details as it was around a year ago, but I had problems with my laptop`s wi-fi card and I had to change it`s module config to turn the n modulation off.22:04
Dave77where can I find help.. info about programming C++ in linux?22:05
l43lkr0lHow do I get right ATI drivers for Radeon X1200?22:05
smallfoot-"dpkg -l" lists only installed packages? didn't it used to list all packages?22:05
fragend_2013treueneu: Thanks I will do it. the command depends on the driver/hardware?22:06
ponch0Can anyone help me out, i can't find anything, I have Lubuntu interface, lightweight version and the text size in terminal is tiny but I don't have the option "cutomize look and feel" in preferences.22:06
k1lsmallfoot-: no22:06
fragend_2013its a known bug by the way22:06
Quest I have encrypted my ntfs partition on the run (it had data inside it before encryption) what are the chances that data recovery tools may reveal the data (ignore brute force attack for password recovery) ? (tool used is true crypt)22:06
escottQuest, 022:07
l43lkr0lI'm running 12.10, I was told to get Synapsis and find fglrx to fix problem with the driver. What do I do with this 'fglrx-driver.desktop"?22:07
smallfoot-k1l, no to which question?22:07
Questescott,  sure?22:07
Questescott,   recovery tools which recover formated partitions cannot do that too?22:07
trueneufragend_2013: It seems that some cards/drivers don`t support changing the modulation that way. And the actual commands/config lines depend on what driver you're using.22:08
escottQuest, assuming the truecrypt guys know what they are doing which i'm fairly sure they do22:08
ponch0How to change font size inside terminal lubuntu, no option for "custimze look and feel" anyone?22:08
TravelianThanks for the "help".22:08
l43lkr0lTravelian, I think If anyone knew how to help, they would...22:08
noirohey guys, I just rebooted my computers and my speakers suddenly stopped working. In sound settings my only output option is dummy output....any idea what happened?22:09
fragend_2013treuneu: are there possible driver updates? dont know yet how things on ubuntu works.  maybe that would solve it22:09
k1lsmallfoot-: it didnt show all possible packages. just the installed22:10
alumnommm, interesante...22:10
trueneufragend_2013: I`m not an ubuntu/debian expert neither, I don`t think I can help you with that particular question, Sorry.22:11
szymon_wHow could I get list of image editors installed on the system ? ( terminal )22:12
ikoniaszymon_w: dpkg -l | grep $PACKAGE22:13
ollie4hi. i have a problem wih i3wm. it freezes when starting. i also get random internal errors in all desktop environments i am using. http://funkyimg.com/viewer.php?img=/2/3135/901/232326error.png22:14
ssm2017salut22:14
FatDarrelyo!22:14
fragend_2013trueneu: ok i will try that thanks22:15
ssm2017sur une 12.04 workstation, je crois que le reseau est gere par network manager22:15
trueneunp, fragend_201322:15
ollie4any idea?22:16
ssm2017j'aimerais forcer l'ip statique mais par ssh. avez vous une idee de comment faire car je crois que /etc/network/interface ne gere pas eth0 (me trompe je ?)22:16
GeekSquid!es22:16
ubottuEn la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.22:16
GeekSquid!fr22:16
ubottuNous sommes désolés, mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.22:16
k1l!fr | ssm201722:16
ubottussm2017: please see above22:16
ssm2017oops; sorry, i thous that i was in french chnnel :)22:16
szymon_wikonia, it kind of works... but I meant instead providing $PACKAGE I want to provide like: "Image editors" and bam... list of image editors.22:17
socommHello I am trying to run a few virtualbox machines at boot can anyone help me?22:21
unheedingsocomm: are you using Unity (regular ubuntu)?22:23
k1lszymon_w: "apt-cache search "22:23
amicrawler2012hey guys  i need help i'm getting a 404 error on my ubunut 10.1022:24
amicrawler2012is there a work around for this22:24
k1l!eol | amicrawler201222:25
ubottuamicrawler2012: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades22:25
amicrawler2012when i try to install software22:25
k1lamicrawler2012: 10.10 is way out of support. you should really consider upgrades22:25
amicrawler2012it a old computer22:25
max451fHi there, can anyone help me?22:25
k1lamicrawler2012: that is no reason for using an unsupported OS22:25
amicrawler2012i dont think i will handel 1222:25
dwardmaybe22:26
k1lamicrawler2012: see Lubuntu for example22:26
amicrawler2012it is  AMD22:26
amicrawler2012lubuntu ?22:26
k1l!lubuntu | amicrawler201222:26
ubottuamicrawler2012: lubuntu is Ubuntu with LXDE instead of !GNOME as desktop environment, which makes it extremely lightweight. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu - /join #lubuntu for lubuntu support.22:26
TonTonhi, kennt sich jemand mit dem 3.8 kernel aus und könnte mir mit einem treiber helfen?22:26
szymon_wk1l, will try it... thanks22:26
max451fI using Ubuntu 12.10 on Fujitsu-siemens UH 552 an thi sis my issue: after shutdown my laptom starts up automaticly22:27
max451fno signs of wake on lan in BIOS, I checked22:27
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k1lTonTon: deutscher support ist in #ubuntu-de :)  aber mit eigenen kerneln musst du eh eigenen support machen22:27
dwardwell that is quite strange,how do you shut it down max451f22:28
max451falso, in my wireless adapter WOL is disabled22:28
amicrawler2012it is a amd athlon xp 320022:28
dwardmax451f what happens when you use hold the power button to do a force shutdown? does it stay off?22:28
max451fyes22:29
amicrawler2012512 MB ram22:29
max451fbut after few seconds starts up22:29
amicrawler2012K1122:29
amicrawler2012will it support 1222:29
dwardmax451f did this just start or has it been like this since install22:29
max451falso, tryed install Win7 - there is no such issue22:29
amicrawler2012on a amd xp 3200 with 512 ram22:29
sw0rdfishhey it says this package is of bad quality .... Details: "The package doesn't provide a valid Installed-Size control field. See Debian Policy 5.6.20."22:30
sw0rdfishfor synergy .deb installation file (the one in the repos is old version)22:30
manners13hey guys has anyone tried using open xchange as im having no luck with sogo22:30
dwardmax451f did this just start or has it been like this since install22:30
sw0rdfishis it safe for me to continue...22:30
max451fthis issue starts few days ago22:30
k1lamicrawler2012: try Lubuntu, like i said22:30
dwardmax451f did you change anything?22:30
amicrawler2012lubunut22:30
max451funly updating22:30
dwardmax451f or remember installing anything?22:30
amicrawler2012i dont want to do a fresh install22:31
sw0rdfish???22:31
max451finstalling - not unusual, just gvim and ruby22:31
max451foh, also installed Oracle JDK 722:31
sidney_how do i install drivers in ubuntu 12.0422:32
sidney_my cd dosent work22:32
max451f:dward any ideas with this issue?22:33
dwardmax451f sounds like an issure with grub22:34
dwardsee if this works.22:34
dwardsudo vim /etc/default/grub22:34
k1lamicrawler2012: you have to do 3 upgrades to get to the next supported ubuntu version. so i would consider a reinstall22:34
dwardmax451f then set GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="acpi=noirq quiet splash"22:34
amicrawler2012what can i do  to use whats there22:35
amicrawler2012i get 404 errors22:35
dwardmax451f then run sudo update-grub22:35
k1l!eol | amicrawler201222:35
ubottuamicrawler2012: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades22:35
k1lamicrawler2012: read that message!22:35
amicrawler2012i read about the old ubuntu22:35
dwardmax451f and seei if the problem persists22:35
max451f:dward OK, trying ...22:35
max451fthanks22:35
amicrawler2012but i get 404 as well when i add to the source list22:35
dwardsure good luck22:36
amicrawler2012i think i'm doing somthing wrong22:36
k1lamicrawler2012: that is what is meant with: not supported anymore22:36
k1lamicrawler2012: no support. no packages. no updates, no security updates,...22:36
amicrawler2012so cani add the old source list from the old  ubunut site22:37
dwardwhat was GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT set to before you changed it max451f22:37
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max451f:dward RUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="i8042.notimeout i8042.nomux"22:37
k1lamicrawler2012: you need to upgrade!22:37
amicrawler2012ok22:37
amicrawler2012i will let them know22:38
k1lamicrawler2012: your machine has security issues that a 9year old learns to break in his school lessons22:38
max451f:dward "i8042.notimeout i8042.nomux" - I added to make my touchpad work22:38
yownHow do you zero write/dd etc. a partition, without doing the whole drive?22:39
k1lyown: target dd to that partition22:39
k1lyown: but be aware to check twice hitting the right partition :)22:39
dwardmax451f, not sure what i told you will actually to help but it's a start22:39
marrrkHi! I just installed ubuntu and wifi was working fine. Then I ran an update and now the wifi has issues. I have an IP address assigned, but I can't even ping my default gateway. I tried disabling "n-mode" to no avail. What else could I try. The thing is a WUSB54GC USB card.22:40
yownK11 I was given instructions for determining path for dd "sudo fdisk -l" but this only lists whole drives, not partition paths22:41
marrrkObviously now that I took the thing out to read the exact number and put it back in, it works. Thank you IT Crowd.22:41
dwardmax451f, i found the bug i think https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/995647/22:41
ubottuUbuntu bug 838792 in gnome-session (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #995647 "Restart" logs out, even when there are no other people logged in" [High,Confirmed]22:41
yownK1l How do I determine path to partition?22:42
dwardmax451f, also try shutting of power managment mode in the bios22:42
k1lyown: that should list the partitions. you are sure there are any?22:43
XSevenXIs there anyone here who can help me figure out a problem with Java?22:44
XSevenXI'm trying to get Runescape to function, but I don't know how to install Java and the instructions on the Java website are confusing22:45
XSevenXI'm only getting error messages when I follow them, and I'm not even sure if I'm using the right directory22:45
XSevenXhere are the instructions: http://www.java.com/en/download/help/linux_x64_install.xml22:45
XSevenXI typed "cd /home/", and I'm not even sure if that's the correct directory, but the file is located in my Home folder22:46
yownk1l: positive, I made them myself and see them clear as day in navigator.22:46
k1lyown: is it lvm or encrypted or smth?22:47
XSevenXI then typed "tar zxvf jre-7u15-linux-x64.tar.gz", and it gives me an error message "Child returned status 2",  and "Error is not recoverable, exiting now"22:48
XSevenXwhy does this have to be so complicated?22:48
XSevenXwhy can't I just click a file and install the Java update22:48
IntelRSCYou can.22:48
XSevenXwell then what is all this bullshit?22:48
XSevenXI went to the Software Center and I installed IcedTea, that didn't get me anywhere22:49
IntelRSCsudo add-apt-repository ppa:webupd8team/java22:49
IntelRSCsudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install oracle-java8-installer22:49
XSevenXRunescape became functional to the point that I could access the login page- and then it just locks up 24/722:49
yownk1l: I am not sure what lvm or smth is, but no, just ordinary partitions. but the command  sudo fdisk -l Just shows the drive, none of its partitioning22:49
_0x783czarQuestion about setting the resolv.conf file in Ubuntu.  I come from a centos background and am used to just arbitrarily setting the DNS entries here directly.  In ubuntu I imagine I'm supposed to use the resolvconf folder.  Where should I put those entries so they automatically get populated?22:49
max451f@dward Unfortunately, it's not help22:49
IntelRSCtell me how that works for you XsevenX22:49
dwardmax451f, try turning off power save mode in bios22:50
yownk1l: it shows the full drive, as in its size and everything, even though much of it is unpartitioned, so it is the command that is the issue, this command clearly does not show partitioning22:50
max451fbois very basic, there is no such option22:50
dwardand pastebin sudo lspci -vvnn22:51
XSevenXthanks IntelRSC , but let me ask you something- how is anyone supposed to just know to do this?22:51
k1lyown: can you pastebin it? the whole command and output?22:51
dwardso we can see what we are dealing with @max451f22:51
max451falso, self start happens only when wlan card is on. if I disable it using hardware swith - laptop don't start after shutdown22:51
XSevenXWhy does everything in Ubuntu have to be so ridiculously cryptic, and overly complicated?22:51
dwardtry adding apm=off22:53
max451f@dward http://pastebin.com/NYe78bM822:53
dwardoption to your grub file /etc/default/grub22:53
nightflyThere is some utility that will list all active Ubuntu/lightdm sessions, what utility is this?22:54
XSevenXhmm22:56
XSevenXIntelRSC my Runescape application is running EXTREMELY slow22:56
yownk1l: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5566230/22:57
k1lyown: did you read what is written there?22:58
XSevenXthis is just ridiculous22:58
kepin_kepananyone can help me to install backtrack utilities in ubuntu??22:58
XSevenXevery time I think that I've figured anything out I get even more problems that I have to work out..22:58
XSevenXthis OS is not worth it22:58
WBFXSevenX, what problems?22:59
XSevenXwell let's see, I can't get any of my applications to function22:59
XSevenXevery time I attempt to get anything to function, I have to look up instructions on how to follow the instructions on how to get the instructions to work22:59
yownk1l: Forgive me please, but it sounds like you are asking me something so dumb that it is insulting22:59
XSevenXso it's automatically 5-6 hours of total work to get _ANYTHING_ done on this OS22:59
yownk1l: Did YOU read what is written there?22:59
K350/c/leave23:00
XSevenXand it's not like "oh gee this is so much fun"23:00
XSevenXit really pisses me off that I can't just have something work23:00
k1lyown: WARNING: GPT (GUID Partition Table) detected on '/dev/sda'! The util fdisk doesn't support GPT. Use GNU Parted.23:00
h00kXSevenX: Do you have any specific questions that you can ask?23:00
XSevenXI'm trying to get Runescape to function23:00
XSevenXbecause I've given up on everything else I was trying to get to run23:00
r88j8I need some help23:01
_0x783czarUsing Ubuntu's resolvconf automatic resolv.conf updater, how to I remove the two default nameservers and replace them with my own?23:01
max451f@dward apm=off not helps :(23:01
k1lyown: you see?23:01
h00kXSevenX: is that run from a Linux client, or web based, or wine?23:01
XSevenXso I just got help from IntelRSC, who told me how to get the Java update repository, and update my Java23:01
yownk1l: That just means I was right about that not being a good command for determing partition address, so why don't you tell me a good command for it please, rather then waste more time with analyzing this one.23:01
XSevenXit runs out of Firefox with Java h00k23:01
r88j8you still here23:01
Jewfro-Macabbi_0x783czar, add your nameservers to your /etc/network/interfaces file23:01
XSevenXit should have no problems running on Linux, but LO AND BEHOLD23:01
k1lyown: it is a goodcommand, except you have a gpt.23:01
XSevenXyet ANOTHER application that DOES NOT WORK on linux23:01
r88j8My ubuntu stopped using my connection and started using a connection i've never seen on my list before23:02
r88j8is that a hack23:02
h00kXSevenX: Were you about to get Java to update?23:02
k1lyown: so that is some kind of info you should have told us. at least when that warning in capital letters came across23:02
h00k!java | XSevenX23:02
ubottuXSevenX: To just use java you need a "Java Runtime Environment" (JRE) and/or a browser plugin. If that is not sufficient you will need a "Java Development Kit" (JDK) aka "Software  Development Kit" (SDK).  Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java about how to install one of three current implementations.23:02
XSevenXJava is updated to Java 8 h00k23:02
k1lyown: install gdisk and use that instead23:02
XSevenXI installed IceTea via the Software Center, as my first attempt to get runescape to work, and that got me past the loading screen, and then the game itself wouldn't load or do anything23:03
dwardmax451f; what exactly happens when you run sudo init 023:03
XSevenXso the second solution I tried was updating my Java, and I've done that, and now Runescape is just stuck on the loading screen and won't even function at all23:03
yownk1l: Like I know what gpt mean... and what would be the command using gdisk? Or do I just install gdisk using sudo install gdisk ? then run that old command a second time?23:03
dwardmax451f, this is a pretty common bug. you might want to switch back to the earlier kernel23:03
r88j8Don't know if you heard me earlier so i'm typing again. My ubuntu is using a connection i've never seen before and it switched to this connection while I was online without my permisson. I'm pretty sure this connection wasn't in my list of connections before23:04
k1lyown: if you dont know and you read that kind of warning or error it would be good to tell. that is my point.23:04
k1lyown: "sudo apt-get install gdisk"23:04
h00kXSevenX: it sounds like a Java issue, or a problem with how Runescape handles it's Java stuffs.23:04
k1lyown: after that run "sudo gdisk /dev/sda"23:05
_0x783czarJewfro-Macabbi: hmm, that doesn't seem to be working.  I went into that file, found the dns-nameservers entry which had the default entries and replaced it with my own.  When I ran resolvconf -u it seemed to have no effect.23:05
h00kXSevenX: Here's a fairly recent post where someone has made a personal package archive to resolve how Runescape handles Java: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/07/how-to-install-runescape-linux-game.html23:05
XSevenXI'm aware that it's a Java issue- it's an issue with how Linux can't function Java properly23:05
jribXSevenX: this channel is for support.  I understand you're frustrated, but let's keep the discussion related to details about your issue; take the ranting elsewhere23:06
XSevenXI've had TOASTERS, and MICROWAVES that have been able to boot up and immediately run Runescape23:06
Jewfro-MacabbiXSevenX, you could try using sun-java instead of icedtea23:06
k1lXSevenX: stop that ranting and flaming if you want volunteer help inside this channel23:06
WBFXSevenX, have you tried http://paste.ubuntu.com/5566249/23:06
XSevenXh00k that guide would apply to the current version of Runescape- I'm attempting to run a much older 2007 version of the client which is browser-based only23:07
h00kXSevenX: ah, that's probably the issue, with the newest Java and an older version of the client.23:07
h00kXSevenX: in not being familiar with Runescape, is there a reason why you couldn't run that PPA?23:08
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XSevenXI already have the Java ppa23:08
XSevenXand I've already updated via terminal through the ppa to Java 823:08
h00kXSevenX: Is that for the old version of Java?23:09
XSevenXif I'm having compatibility issues because of IcedTea then I don't even know how to remove it23:09
h00kXSevenX: If you're using a newer version of Java, and an old version of the Runescape client, it's recipe for disastre23:09
h00k*disaster23:09
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h00kXSevenX: Give that PPA a shot in the article I sent, apparently it's working for people.23:10
yownk1l: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5566255/23:10
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h00kXSevenX: and IcedTea is just the browser plugin for whatever java is installed.23:10
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XSevenXh00k that runescape client is a client produced by Jagex to run the CURRENT version of the game, they have RELEASED the OLDER version of their servers because of a protest that the new version sucks23:11
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XSevenXI do not want the new client version, because it can ONLY run the LATEST Runescape version they have out23:11
XSevenXthere isn't an older client because one didn't exist back in 200723:11
alboywgsupelCan anybody hear me or am I muted? Just respond23:11
k1lyown: with "-l"23:11
h00kXSevenX: well, I'd like to redirect your anger from Ubuntu and on to bad versioning and clients from Runescape ;)23:11
bean__XSevenX: you're meing incredibly condescending and rude.23:11
bean__being*(23:11
h00kXSevenX: anyway...I understand better now.23:12
bean__alboywgsupel: we hear you23:12
rockyhello guys23:12
XSevenXhttp://www.runescape.com/title.ws - on the front page, they have a vote counter, because people have voted to have the game rollback to the older version of the game23:13
XSevenXthey released the stand-alone client for Runescape some time in 2009, the server rollback is for 2007, therefore a standalone client never existed23:13
yownk1l: "sudo gdisk /dev/sda -l"?23:13
XSevenXthe game was entire browser based from 1999 to 200723:13
h00kXSevenX: and openjdk-6-jre or openjdk-7-jre, paired with icedtea6-plugin or icedtea-7-plugin (respectively) aren't working?23:13
rockyi'm using Ubuntu 12.04, please provide me a link so that i can install mac theme in here23:13
XSevenXno h00k, that is what I was already using and why I attempted an update23:13
h00kXSevenX: okay, so 6 or 7.23:13
k1lsudo gdisk -l /dev/sda23:13
XSevenXthe game is running so slow, that in attempting to connect to the server (to begin loading the game environment), that it is timing out23:14
XSevenXI'm going to go attempt to load the game on my Windows PC and I'll tell you if it's a server issue23:14
bean__that sounds like an issue with your connection, not with java.23:14
h00kI didn't know there was an OpenJRE8 yet23:14
XSevenXmy connection is currently running at 35.7MB/s via speedtest.net bean_23:14
* bean__ was not aware that kids even still played runescape23:15
XSevenXwell h00k it may be a problem with their servers23:17
XSevenXmy other PC is currently hung up on the same screen that this one is23:17
XSevenXand cannot connect to the server23:17
k1lXSevenX: so please consider that when you come and rant here over ubuntu the next time you want support :/23:18
RocketLauncherHow do I change the color of the little dock Unity has?23:18
bean__XSevenX: then maybe you should apologize for your rage23:18
k1lRocketLauncher: it changes the color to your wallpaper23:18
RocketLauncheroh23:18
RocketLauncherwow i'm stupid23:18
RocketLauncherk1l, is there any way to change the color of it and make it less transparent23:19
RocketLauncheror do i have to use Unity 2D for that23:19
_0x783czarRocketLauncher: I know that feel bro.23:19
yownk1l: It gave me a single number for the partition, do I add that to the end of dev/sda for the partition address?23:19
k1lRocketLauncher: there are some custom settings tools for fiddeling with unity. dpends on what ubuntu you use23:19
RocketLauncher_0x783czar, its an abstract kind of feel :-(23:20
RocketLauncherk1l, alright thanks, i'll see if MyUnity still works and whatevers out there23:20
rockyi'm using Ubuntu 12.04, please provide me a link so that i can install mac theme in here23:21
bean__rocky: that's not how this works :) you'd likely have to find or piece together your own theme23:22
uskerinehi, i am trying to recover data from an ubuntu usb bootable pendrive that did not worked anymore23:23
uskerinecould anyone help me to understand how should i mount it?23:23
uskerineI managed to mount it (from /dev/sdb1) and then i mounted filesystem.squashfs from /casper23:24
uskerinebut i can't find anything under /home23:24
uskerinecould anyone please help me?23:24
uskerineit seems that there is also a casper-rw file23:25
uskerinebut i don't know how to mount it23:25
nightflyck-list-sessions was what I was looking for23:25
Changacan one switch from windows 7 to ubuntu without losing any functionality?23:26
smcguinnessis it possible to add a user to a service that does not prompt for a password to restart/start/stop?23:26
yownk1l: It gave me a single number for the partition, do I add that to the end of dev/sda for the partition address?23:28
YokoBRguys, plz, my laptop is at 74°C, fans almost stopped and it's burning... how can i control the fan??23:28
threex5I was wondering whether someone could help me fix screen tearing on youtube/flash videos. VLC is ok but flash not so much.23:29
threex5i'm running 12.04 32 bit with metacity/no effects23:29
rockyi'm using Ubuntu 12.04, please provide me a link so that i can install mac theme in here23:30
YokoBRplease, is there any way to control the fan?? My laptop is at 74°23:30
OerHeks!themes23:30
ubottuFind your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freecode.com/tags/theme - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy23:30
rockyi'm using Ubuntu 12.04, please provide me a link so that i can install mac theme in here23:31
yownk1l: It gave me a single number for the partition, do I add that to the end of dev/sda for the partition address?23:31
yownCan anyone please help me determine partition address for using dd etc?23:34
yownhello?23:37
rockyi'm using Ubuntu 12.04, please provide me a link so that i can install mac theme in here23:37
leodavin843I've had a large problem in Ubuntu and can hardly run it. I am trying to find a solution, I'm soory, but  is this the proper place to ask?23:37
leodavin843(12.10)23:37
thiebauderocky, goto noobslab.com23:38
WillisIVXXanyone here have any experience with an acer aspire 5315-2153?23:38
WillisIVXXand have a few minutes?23:38
thiebaudewillia, im using the acer aspire555223:39
thiebaudewillis23:39
WillisIVXXi havin trouble gettin to to boot23:39
WillisIVXXit was given to me23:40
WillisIVXXthiebaude; can i pm?23:40
thiebaudeyes23:40
kepin_kepananyone can help me to install backtrack utilities in ubuntu??23:41
leodavin843I'm having severe problems with Ubuntu crashing, can someone help? I've described the problem here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/258584/crashing-after-login-with-graphic-issues                            To no avail23:42
yownCan anyone please help me determine partition address for using dd etc?23:42
eN_Joyi have just installed a new cron jobs @reboot, do i need to reboot to make that work?23:42
ikoniaeN_Joy: what do you think @reboot does23:43
funnyhi23:43
funnyme23:44
funnye23:44
funnyi23:44
eN_Joyikonia: so there's no such thing as a dry run?23:44
funnyu23:44
FloodBot1funny: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.23:44
ikoniaeN_Joy: no, you've set it to trigger at reboot....you need to reboot to trigger it23:44
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eN_Joyikonia: i see23:45
eN_Joyit's the inadyn thingy, guess i'll just start a daemon for this session23:45
eN_Joyi'm working remotely, and reboot is always something i'd do last23:46
yownCan anyone please help me determine partition address for using dd etc?23:47
jamesgcdyown it depends on what partition youre looking for, by default you could just look at all the files in the /dev folder, as any partitions will be included there with names like "sda1" and "sda2" and so on23:48
ikoniayown: why don't you tell us what you're trying to do23:48
yownikonia: For using DD etc, for writing over that partition for complete eraser23:50
ikoniayown: why don't you just put a new file system on it, or delete the partition23:50
ikoniayown: you'll need to work out the start/end block bounderies, or change working of mb/kb sizings23:51
Tm0Hey all! I just installed Ubuntu on my laptop and I'm having problems connecting to my school's wifi. The setup docs (which I can't link too...) refuse to help me.23:51
jamesgcdhey Tm0 - whats the exact problem you're having? Is ubuntu failing to show any wifi hotspots, does it refuse to connect, does it connect or not work, any information at all would be useful ^_^23:52
yownikonia: I want to do a write over for data security. And why would I need to work out start/end block boundries? The boundries would be the partition perameters.23:52
ikoniayown: yes....so if you don't set the start/end you'll end up doing the whole disk23:52
yownjamesgcd: where is this dev folder?23:52
ikoniayown: realistically.....how important is this data23:53
yownikonia: Why can't I just have it do the whole partition?23:53
ikoniayown: there are also tools to do this23:53
jamesgcdyown its /dev - if you browse the root of the hard drive its just a folder named dev inside it23:53
Tm0jamesgcd Ubuntu refuses to connect when I put my credentials in. It just doesn't connect. Usually on mac you just put in your creddentials and it works.23:53
ikoniayown: because dd knows nothing about partitions, so you have to set a start/stop point for dd23:53
jamesgcdTm0 is it a problem with only that specific network or does it occur everywhere?23:53
ikoniayown: you can use the device file for the partiton you want, or you'll need to use the disk device file and set parameters23:54
yownjamesgcd: OK found a devs, but I don't see anything like you are describing?23:54
Tm0jamesgcd Just on this network. It works on the public one but I can't wget or apt-get install things on it.23:54
ikoniayown: how many disks do you have in your system ?23:55
yownikonia: What would happen if I just set dd to the path of the partition?23:55
yownikonia: partitions, or drives?23:55
jamesgcdTm0 if Ubuntu shows the connection successful message, its probably some form of proxy configuration you need to enter which ubuntu isnt detecting properly. Is it showing you that notification when it first establishes the connection?23:55
ikoniayown: nothing, it would work on that partition, assuming it's nothing like an extended partition23:55
ikoniayown: drives23:55
rockyi'm using Ubuntu 12.04, please provide me a link so that i can install mac theme in here23:56
yownikonia: One HDD, 1 USB flash, 1 DVD23:56
ikoniayown: do you want to blank a partition on the hard disk or usb ?23:56
ikoniayown: and again - realistically how secure/important is this data23:56
yownikonia: It seems like you are contradicting yourself, I thought you said it ignored partition parameters and I needed to manually define them23:56
jamesgcdyown : to be honest, its probably easiest to just copy and paste a hundred or so files to the partition and then delete the partition afterwards23:56
yownikonia:  HDD23:56
ikoniayown: no, I'm not contradicting myself, if you read what I said carefully23:57
jamesgcdyown: obviously by a hundred I mean enough to fill the whole partition up completely :p23:57
yownjamesgcd: Can data survive between data space?23:57
ikoniabetween data space ?23:57
Tm0jamesgcd It doesn't even connect. Basically I enter my stuff, and it refuses it. Even though all the settings match my phone.23:57
yownI mean data files wouldn't be completely compact all the time, they need space, could old data exist to recover between that space23:58
ikoniayown: sorry, you're not making sense23:59
ikoniajamesgcd: goldcd ?23:59
yownikonia: So I can just point dd to the partition address and it will overwrite that section of the HDD? So what is wrong with that then?23:59
jamesgcdikonia sorry, goldcd :p?23:59
ikoniajamesgcd: never mind, wondered if you where someone else23:59
ikoniayown: nothing....but you seem lost in what you are doing23:59
jamesgcdand Tm0 I'm unsure on that problem tbh, I'll do some googling to see if I can find any info to help you23:59

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