[00:00] <Oblivion1500> hello, i was wondering how you add permissions to a user to edit a directory on the command line say the user is username@localhost and the dir is /example
[00:01] <Guest69309> Ok, if you want to be pedantic, yes applications do exist that won't work.  ARM?  But I doubt anyone seriously cares whether your favorite text editor for your days on VAX machines runs on the latest Ubuntu
[00:01] <Dmnchild> Anyone know why if I changed the default port for SSH, that I can not access via the new port or old port? (I know i shouldn't be able to on old port) I get a could not resolve hostname <my ip>:<port>
[00:01] <Dmnchild> nodename nor servname provided, or not known
[00:01] <Guest69309> What 16-bit applications are you referring to that you would miss so badly?
[00:01] <sonOfRa> Dmnchild, use ssh -p <port> hostname
[00:01] <sonOfRa> don't specify the port with the hostname
[00:03] <Dmnchild> Ah snaps. Much appreciated.
[00:06] <relisher> Any info on wether Ubuntu Phone will be able to install .deb files
[00:06] <Atlantic777> Oblivion1500: it's called access control list (ACL) in linux. Every file has permissions for owner, group and everyone. So you have to ensure that user is in the group to which the file belongs, and that the group has permissions to read/write/execute the file.
[00:06] <Atlantic777> Oblivion1500: so, chown user:group /path/to/file sets owner user and group. chmod xxx /path/to/file sets permissions. You can add a user to a group with gpasswd -a user
[00:06] <Atlantic777> those xxx are 3 numbers, each can have values 0-7, 4 - read, 2 - write, 1 - execute
[00:06] <Atlantic777> and they add, so 750 means that owner can read, write and execute, group to which the file belongs can read and execute that file and everyone other can do nothing with it.
[00:06] <qubodup-ubunutu> hi. i'm trying to find out what the currently loaded gfx driver is. I'm unable to determine whether it's the radeon/ati one or a backup one by looking at xorg logs:  http://ompldr.org/vaGt3NA/Xorg.0.log
[00:06] <Atlantic777> qubodup-ubunutu: glxinfo | grep -i render
[00:07] <Atlantic777> glxinfo is from mesa utils package, though...
[00:08] <Oblivion1500> Atlantic777: can i just make up a group and would user be username or username@example and if i do the first option can i omit the xxx?
[00:08] <jrib> Oblivion1500: do keep in mind though that changing permissions/ownership to the wrong file can cause issues with your system
[00:08] <Atlantic777> Oblivion1500: usernames and groups have nothing to do with hostnames (the hostname is thing after @)
[00:08] <qubodup-ubunutu> direct rendering: Yes \ OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI R100 (RV200 5157) x86/MMX+/3DNow!+/SSE TCL DRI2 - not sure what that means but I would guess it says "the open source radeon/ati driver is running"
[00:12] <Oblivion1500> so i cant just do chown user:group /path/to/file, i have to do that other one aswell?
[00:13] <Oblivion1500> chown -R user:group /path/to/file
[00:13] <Nvveen> Could someone please help me with this? Unity won't show any panels even though hw acceleration is working. .xsession-errors tells me compiz can't load unityshell. Anyone?
[00:13] <Atlantic777> Oblivion1500: I doon't understand. chown is for ownership, chmod is for permissions.
[00:14] <Oblivion1500> ok so i only have to use chown? i just need one user to access it
[00:14] <Nvveen> If noone can help me, can someone at least point me in the direction of an irc-channel with more experienced users?
[00:14] <jrib> Oblivion1500: what file is this?
[00:15] <Oblivion1500> its a /example.com and i just need my mysql admin to edit it
[00:15] <jrib> !permissions | Oblivion1500
[00:15] <Atlantic777> Oblivion1500: then make sure that the user is owner, and that the last number in chmod xxx is 0.
[00:16] <jrib> Oblivion1500: Atlantic777 pretty much explained it already but there's some documentation on the wiki might want to read
[00:17] <Oblivion1500> ohhh, ok sorry just making myself look stupid, so root will still have access to this file though right?
[00:17] <Atlantic777> root has access to everything
[00:18] <Atlantic777> it's... root. :D
[00:18] <Oblivion1500> good good
[00:18] <Oblivion1500> thanks for you help!!!
[00:19] <kmentat> Hey, quick question. How do I figure out what's thrashing my disk drives?
[00:19] <jrib> kmentat: iotop
[00:19] <kmentat> I'm using LVM, but nothing is reading or writing to anything, yet there's disk access while the system idles.
[00:20] <Bray90820_> Anyone wanna help me get my touch screen working on my netbook
[00:20] <Bray90820_> it use to work on any version before 10.04.2 if i added usbhid.quirks=0x00eef:0x725e:0x40
[00:21] <Bray90820_> to my grub menu
[00:21] <Bray90820_> but now if i do that it dies after i close teh cover
[00:22] <kmentat> "kworker
[00:22] <kmentat> "lwprler
[00:22] <kmentat> "kworker"?
[00:22] <Bray90820_> sorry i ment 12.04.2 not 10.04.2
[00:22] <yourimym1> hey tehre
[00:22] <yourimym1> there*
[00:23] <g090> Can I use a 32-bit virtual machine on a 64-bit Ubuntu? Or does it also have to be 64-bit?
[00:23] <Blacklite_> I'm here. willing to answer any questions.
[00:23] <Blacklite_> yes, you can use 32 bit.
[00:23] <Blacklite_> next.
[00:23] <g090> Great, thanks!
[00:24] <HunterT> Hello, could someone please tell me why I am having so many problems with installing the guest addition video driver on Ubuntu 12.04 in the latest version of virtual box
[00:24] <HunterT> any links would be appreciated.
[00:24] <yourimym1> is there way to backup installed program , and get them back after fresh install , thing like aptoncd but get the apps
[00:24] <Bray90820_> Blacklite did you get the messages about my touch screen problem
[00:24] <Blacklite_> no.
[00:24] <Jesus> 5
[00:24] <Blacklite_> please elaborate
[00:25] <Bray90820_> it use to work on any version before 12.04.2 if i added usbhid.quirks=0x00eef:0x725e:0x40 to grub
[00:25] <Bray90820_> but now if i do that the touch screen dies after i close the cover
[00:25] <yourimym1> Blacklite_:  is there way to backup installed program , and get them back after fresh install , thing like aptoncd but get the apps
[00:26] <HunterT> Bray what are you saying?
[00:26] <kmentat> OK, it looks like kworker is throwing a lot of IO processes and chewing up a lot of CPU
[00:26] <HunterT> so I should install a diff version
[00:26] <Blacklite_> kmentat: killall kworker
[00:27] <kmentat> But kworker is a placeholder for kernel tasks.
[00:27] <kmentat> That doesn't sound… good
[00:27] <Blacklite_> oh. well fuck.
[00:27] <Blacklite_> umm... recompile kernel?
[00:27] <kmentat> At least it isn't LVM's mirroring
[00:28] <kmentat> Well, you can't recompile what you haven't compiled in the first place, but I can always build my own anyway!
[00:28] <Feelquilty>  / join #backtrack-fr
[00:28] <kmentat> T'isn't my first barbecue.
[00:28] <nibbler> yourimym1: you can get a list of installed packages via dpkg.... and use this later as input for apg-get install - can't remember the parameter for the first step right now
[00:28] <MoPac> So, what is up with apportcheckresume in 12.10?  Every time I suspend, the computer restarts on resume and throws a KernelOops.  I've seen other people having the same issue: is suspend just broken in 12.10, or are there particular configurations that are working?
[00:29] <Bray90820_> i have a touch screen netbook the dell insperon duo running 12.04.2 and by default the touch screen doesn't work  but if i add usbhid.quirks=0x00eef:0x725e:0x40 as a boot flag then it works until i close the cover and reopen it
[00:29] <nibbler> MoPac: its working fine for me on 2 machines.
[00:29] <Bray90820_> then i get no input from the screen
[00:29] <MoPac> nibbler: Do you use LUKS?
[00:29] <Blacklite_> MoPac: alot of stuff is broken in 12.10 roll back to 12.04
[00:29] <yourimym1> nibbler: so what to google to get the steps ?
[00:29] <nibbler> MoPac: yes
[00:29] <Bray90820_> but it worked fine on 12.04.0 and earlier
[00:30] <nibbler> yourimym1: $ dpkg --get-selections
[00:30] <Bray90820_> yourimym1 that's for backing up your programs http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=35087
[00:30] <MoPac> Blacklite_: Not worth rolling back just for this.  I'd rather fix it
[00:30] <Blacklite_> Bray90820_: did you look for your touchscreen's kernel drivers?
[00:30] <Bray90820_> what do you mean
[00:31] <Bray90820_> Blacklite_ what do you mean
[00:31] <Blacklite_> look for proprietary drivers for your touchscreen.
[00:31] <MoPac> Are there any people in here who are among those who have/had suspend problems in 12.10?
[00:32] <Blacklite_> Bray90820_: look for proprietary drivers for your touchscreen.
[00:32] <Bray90820_> Blacklite_ under additional drivers?
[00:32] <nibbler> Bray90820_: what happens if you close/reopen the lid?
[00:32] <Blacklite_> yes.
[00:33] <linuxuz3r_> MoPac i have suspend problems with 12.04
[00:33] <Blacklite_> yes under additional drivers.
[00:33] <Bray90820_> the touch screen fails to work
[00:33] <Bray90820_> Blacklite_ there are none
[00:33] <nibbler> Bray90820_: did you try to reload the module? like rmmod foo, modprobe foo
[00:33] <MoPac> linuxuz3r_: Do you get a reboot and a KernelOops message when you try to resume?
[00:33] <Bray90820_> nibbler what do you mean
[00:34] <Blacklite_> Bray90820_: look for generic touchscreen drivers.
[00:34] <linuxuz3r_> i don't get anything when i try to wake
[00:34] <Bray90820_> i have it working partly after i add usbhid.quirks=0x00eef:0x725e:0x40" as a boot flag
[00:34] <Blacklite_> linuxuz3r_: did you try pressing the power button?
[00:34] <nibbler> Bray90820_: it certainly is some sort of driver. drivers in linux are usually kernel modules. the list of loaded modules can be seen by "lsmod" - if you unload a module "rmmod" and load it again "modprobe" you reinitialise the driver
[00:34] <cobra-the-joker> Hey guys ... i am trying to install ubuntu from a USB ... but when i choose language + continue on the third party page ... it hangs !
[00:34] <Bray90820_> but after i close and open the lid it dies
[00:34] <linuxuz3r_> MoPac to wake up yes
[00:34] <[Mod]Jordan> I am in need of desperate help
[00:35] <MoPac> For me, the suspend-resume fails no matter what button I press to resume
[00:35] <nibbler> Bray90820_: but its not always working, as unloading of drivers that are in use is not possible e.g.
[00:35] <MoPac> It just goes to boot/BIOS
[00:35] <Blacklite_> cobra-the-joker: check your disc's integrity.
[00:35] <linuxuz3r_> oh
[00:35] <[Mod]Jordan> Someone?
[00:35] <Bray90820_> nibbler im sorry but i still don't understand
[00:35] <nibbler> [Mod]Jordan: you'd have to ask a specific question to give anyone the chance of helping
[00:36] <cobra-the-joker> Blacklite_, i checked it  ... it's correct
[00:36] <Blacklite_> yeah.
[00:36] <yourimym1> nibbler: what to do after dpkg --get-selections
[00:36] <yourimym1> as i want to back up all displayed from dpkg --get-selections
[00:36] <[Mod]Jordan> OK so I'm running open suse and want to switch to Ubuntu I have recovery partition and bios and don't want to lose them
[00:36] <Blacklite_> what's you'r problem, jordan?
[00:36] <Blacklite_> you're*
[00:36] <nibbler> yourimym1: dpkg --get-selections | awk '{print $1}' > $HOME/installed-packages.txt
[00:37] <nibbler> [Mod]Jordan: then... tell the installer not to touch them.
[00:37] <Blacklite_> cobra-the-joker: what are your processor and video card?
[00:37] <[Mod]Jordan> How?
[00:37] <[Mod]Jordan> I need instructions
[00:37] <cobra-the-joker> Blacklite_, it seems that i found a solution http://askubuntu.com/questions/204771/ubuntu-12-10-installation-hangs-at-preparing-to-install-ubuntu
[00:37] <nibbler> [Mod]Jordan: the installer is self explaining. don't tell it to use the partitions/whole disk, just do it manually.
[00:37] <kirk601> anyone have a recommendation on the safest/fastest vpn service that works with ubuntu?
[00:38] <nibbler> kirk601: tor. for sure the safest. talking about fast might make you want to sacrifice some security ;-)
[00:38] <yourimym1> nibbler: how to get them then in package ?
[00:39] <nibbler> yourimym1: cat $HOME/installed-packages.txt | xargs apt-get install - this will reinstall the packages, but it will redownload them etc.
[00:39] <Blacklite_> ubuntu makes me a sad penguin.
[00:39] <cobra-the-joker> Blacklite_, what you use then ?
[00:39] <kirk601> nibbler, i have tor installed but i've yet to try it out. does it cover the entire connection? or just a special browser or something
[00:40] <kirk601> nibbler, thx btw :)
[00:40] <Blacklite_> cobra-the-joker: slackware.
[00:40] <nibbler> kirk601: you can route everything via tor, but you need to take care
[00:40] <kirk601> nibbler, i was thinking about paying for one of the advertised ones
[00:40] <Blacklite_> don't.
[00:41] <kirk601> nibbler, well, on my phone it gave me the option to 'bootstrap' the entire connection or only provide saftey thru the included browser
[00:41] <yourimym1> nibbler: where the file saved cant find it
[00:41] <kirk601> nibbler, its the complexity of setting it up that i worry about, dont want to get anything wrong
[00:41] <nibbler> kirk601: check the tails live-cd.... maybe its the best option....
[00:42] <linuxuz3r_> what is a vpn?
[00:42] <[Mod]Jordan> Virtual private network
[00:42] <linuxuz3r_> virtual private network?
[00:42] <Blacklite_> virtual private network
[00:42] <linuxuz3r_> what does it do?
[00:42] <Blacklite_> anonymizer
[00:43] <[Mod]Jordan> Routes traffic from your  to another one
[00:43] <linuxuz3r_> routes traffic from server to client?
[00:43] <yourimym1> i want to use this but only for my system files (tar -cvpzf backup.tar.gz --exclude=/backup.tar.gz --exclude=/proc --exclude=/lost+found --exclude=/sys --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/media --exclude=/dev / )
[00:44] <yourimym1> what parameters to correct for selecting only system and installed ?
[00:45] <[Mod]Jordan> So which should I pick in the install if I want to keep recovery and bios partitions?
[00:46] <[Mod]Jordan> Hello?
[00:46] <yourimym1> so any help ?
[00:46] <[Mod]Jordan> I need help :)
[00:47] <yourimym1> i want to ((tar -cvpzf backup.tar.gz --exclude=/backup.tar.gz --exclude=/proc --exclude=/lost+found --exclude=/sys --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/media --exclude=/dev / ))
[00:47] <yourimym1> but only for system and installed application , so is the command right ?
[00:47] <[Mod]Jordan> Can anyone please help me! :)
[00:48] <linuxuz3r_> what hd partition do you have
[00:48] <linuxuz3r_> and where is your bios installed?
[00:48] <[Mod]Jordan> Toshiba
[00:48] <[Mod]Jordan> On a partition
[00:48] <[Mod]Jordan> With recovery
[00:49] <linuxuz3r_> brb got to go
[00:49] <[Mod]Jordan> Anyone else?
[00:49] <kirk601> another question. i'm running a ide hdd and want to move to a ssd sata drive. is there an easy way to copy my current operating system from the old ide to the new sata drive?
[00:49] <kirk601> i can't ghost it becauset the ssd is smaller than the old hdd
[00:50] <Pici> [Mod]Jordan: Why can't you just use the Ubuntu Cd to install? Have you tried that?
[00:50] <kirk601> because i have everything set up the way i like it i dont want to start over
[00:50] <kirk601> Pici
[00:50] <Pici> ?
[00:50] <kirk601> Pici: christ, nevermind. i thought that was for me :P
[00:50]  * kirk601 kicks self
[00:50] <[Mod]Jordan> Pici I am doing that but I don't want it to touch my recovery and bios partitions but wipe out open suse
[00:51] <Pici> [Mod]Jordan: During the install it will ask if you want to do advanced partitioning, make sure you choose the right partition to install on.
[00:52] <DannoFX> Hello
[00:54] <yourimym1> anyone me /?
[00:56] <COLORS> Hello. Does anyone need help>?
[00:56] <yourimym1> me :S
[00:56] <johndoe333> hi
[00:56] <COLORS> yourimym1: What's wrong?
[00:56] <johndoe333> i have a problem.
[00:57] <yourimym1> COLORS: i want to ((tar -cvpzf backup.tar.gz --exclude=/backup.tar.gz --exclude=/proc --exclude=/lost+found --exclude=/sys --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/media --exclude=/dev / )) but only for system and installed application , so is the command right ?
[00:57] <yourimym1> not the whole HD
[00:57] <johndoe333> when i go to update ubuntu it attempts to update and then says "not enough free space on disc/boot"
[00:57] <yourimym1> hard-disk i mean
[00:57] <johndoe333> am i able to load up gparted and just change the size of the boot directory?
[00:57] <COLORS> yourimym1: As far as I can see, yes.
[00:58] <johndoe333> or would that corrupt all my files. i use LVM encryption on my HD too.
[00:58] <Bray90820_> i'm trying to install etouch but it is asking me to select an interface RS232, USB, PS2
[00:58] <quant> I want to write a little bash program, that test, if a site on the web is available. However it should only return not available if 404 was returned
[00:58] <johndoe333> boot partition, rather
[00:58] <quant> I tried $q=$(wget --spider $url)
[00:58] <COLORS> johndoe333: Yes, you should be able to use GParted for that :P
[00:58] <quant> (echo $l) | g=(grep -q -e "404")
[00:58] <quant> if [ "$g" -eq 0 ]
[00:59] <yourimym1> COLORS: so that command for packing only file system parition  not the whole hard drive ?!
[00:59] <johndoe333> thanks for responding, COLORS. however, will changing the /boot partition with gparted screw up my data?
[00:59] <kirk601> COLORS: im buying a new hard drive that is smaller than the one i'm using. i want to duplicate my install of ubuntu onto the new drive including my home folder and settings. but not the hundreds of gigs of misc data on the drive. is there a way you would work on tackling that?
[00:59] <quant> however it doesn't work
[00:59] <Bray90820_> anyone know which interface to choose
[00:59] <johndoe333> my ubuntu has LVM encrypted partition, i dont want to bugger it up
[00:59] <COLORS> yourimym1: Yes that will only pack FS, wherever you point it to.
[01:00] <COLORS> johndoe333: It shouldn't, but always practice caution when resizing pertitiions.
[01:00] <johndoe333> i mean, if i increase the size of my "/boot" partition to accommodate this update, wont that mean i have to decrease the size of my other partitions?
[01:01] <johndoe333> and given that my partitions are LVM partitioned, wont that potentially cause some problems
[01:01] <johndoe333> i guess i'm just asking the same quesiton over and over, you're saying i should be able to do it but that i should be cautious and backup before i do. correct?
[01:01] <yourimym1> COLORS: so after i've did this *.tar file , and want to restore it again in freshly installed ubuntu it gets my sett and installed application back , so what is the simple steps to do this after installing ?
[01:01] <COLORS> kirk601: You should never directly copy a Ubuntu installation, you will need to reinstall on that HD and then copy your data over.
[01:02] <SusTaLy> Amq,
[01:02] <johndoe333> it annoys me that i have to do this, why do i need to change my boot partition for an update anyway, i haven't changed any settings or done anything out of the ordinary lately
[01:02] <Bray90820_> which interface controller would a netbook use
[01:02] <Bray90820_> RS232, USB, PS2
[01:02] <kirk601> COLORS: no you were supposed to say 'sure! just install x and y packages and you're off! ugh... thx tho, i understand what you mean nowthat i think about it
[01:02] <kirk601> COLORS: i hate computers sometimes
[01:02] <johndoe333> OK i guess thats the answer, thanks COLORS
[01:02] <kirk601> but i <3 u guys
[01:02] <kirk601> yes thanks COLORS!
[01:03] <Guest8276> can anyone please help me? ZNC says the changes have been done, but the config not written
[01:03] <COLORS> yourimym1: After you re-install, do tar -zxvf backup.tar.gz
[01:03] <Guest8276> please
[01:03] <COLORS> kirk601 No problem :P
[01:03] <yourimym1> COLORS: sudo before or something , cuz am nebiw
[01:04] <COLORS> yourimym: Yes, if you are doing system backups please use sudo.
[01:04] <COLORS> yourimym1: HOWEVER before you proceed with your manual method I reccommed taking a look at the many great Backup apps Ubuntu runs
[01:04] <yourimym1> COLORS: full command to restore( sudo tar -zxvf backup.tar.gz)
[01:06] <yourimym1> COLORS: is there a gui for packing all my installed program i need thing like aptoncd , but i can'y use it cuz i've used apt-get cleanall
[01:06] <kmentat> Bray90820_, a netbook likely would use USB since I highly doubt it has any serial ports or dedicated keyboards or mouse ports.
[01:06] <Ruben2> please help me
[01:06] <COLORS> !info deka-dup
[01:07] <COLORS> !info deja-dup
[01:07] <Ruben2> I cannot write my ZNC config file. Please help
[01:07] <Bray90820_> kmentat it's asking which teh screen is connected to i think
[01:07] <kmentat> Ruben2, what is your problem?
[01:07] <COLORS> yourimym: I reccommend Deja-Dup
[01:07] <Bray90820_> because it is asking that while i am installing etouch to get my touchscreen working
[01:07] <Ruben2> kmentat,
[01:08] <kmentat> Bray90820_, Oh, that'd be something different. Which interface are they asking about? Driving the display panel or the touch sensor?
[01:08] <Ruben2> I use Cygwin and ZNC. I try to add servers to it through web interface, but the config wont be saved. Some bug or its write protected. im not sure
[01:08] <yourimym1> COLORS: one more stupid ques if u may ,
[01:08] <Bray90820_> the touch sensor i think
[01:08] <kmentat> Ruben2, ahh. ZNC is out of my field of expertise.
[01:09] <Bray90820_> im not really sure tho
[01:09] <COLORS> yourimym: Sure, ask away!
[01:09] <Ruben2> ok, kmentat can u take a shot in the dark?
[01:09] <kmentat> Bray90820_, it will either be some kind of internal PCI interface (unlikely) or an internal USB bus. try and lspci and see what's there.
[01:10] <SusTaLy> Fuck :)
[01:10] <kmentat> Ruben2, first you need to find a chicken. Cut its head off, and from the would sprinkle the chicken blood all over your server while chanting.
[01:10] <kmentat> s/would/wound
[01:10] <COLORS> SusTaLy: Please keep appropriate here
[01:10] <SusTaLy> ok ok
[01:10] <yourimym1> COLORS: if i choosed from deja pup file system partion to backup
[01:10] <yourimym1> then install the OS again and use it to restore from file that i've created , that get my installed applications again
[01:11] <COLORS> yourimym1: Yes, that's right.
[01:11] <robertzaccour> how do I install the easypeasy desktop in Ubuntu?
[01:12] <Bray90820_> kmentat i don't even know what i am looking for when i type lspci
[01:12] <kirk601> how bout this does anyone know how to make irssi not show joins/quits/kicks/etc?
[01:12] <kmentat> Bray90820_, drop the output into a pastebin, it might be somewhat obvious.
[01:12] <Bray90820_> kmentat i'll just pastebin the output
[01:12] <Bray90820_> ya lol
[01:13] <kmentat> Bray90820_, I'd also google for your model of machine with the words "touch" and "interface" or "chipset"
[01:13] <Bray90820_> kmentat i tried that
[01:13] <Bray90820_> nothing much
[01:13] <kmentat> Bray90820_, what IS this machine?
[01:13] <Bray90820_> dell insperon duo
[01:14] <COLORS> Hello. Does anyone need help>?
[01:15] <Bray90820_> kmentat http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=Ma7iyhJy
[01:15] <kmentat> Bray90820_, does this help? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1654499
[01:15] <Bray90820_> kmentat it does not
[01:15] <Bray90820_> because everything was working fine before 12.04.2
[01:15] <yourimym1> COLORS: thx alot , i wonder does it will need permession while restoring file system
[01:15] <kmentat> Bray90820_, try lsusb
[01:16] <Blacklite_> try cat /proc/cpuinfo
[01:16] <robertzaccour> how do I install the easypeasy desktop in Ubuntu?
[01:16] <COLORS> yourimym1: Yes, when it restore it will prompt you for a password.
[01:17] <yourimym1> COLORS: merci merci merci :)
[01:18] <kmentat> robertzaccour, that looks like Unity, right? Just install Unity.
[01:18] <robertzaccour> kmentat: its not unity
[01:18] <COLORS> yourimym1: No problem! :P
[01:18] <COLORS> Ahh I have to go, bye all
[01:19] <Bray90820_> kmentat http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=Vc5k5sQs
[01:20] <kmentat> robertzaccour, It certainly looks like Unity in the screenshots on their website. But unless you can figure out what window manager they're using, I doubt you'll make any progress.
[01:21] <kmentat> Bray90820_, there it is! Bus 004 Device 002: ID 0eef:725e D-WAV Scientific Co., Ltd
[01:21] <kmentat> Bray90820_, https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1048242
[01:22] <mib_mib> hi guys, i put some 'export SOMEVAR=/home/me/somedir' in my ~/.profile but when i open a new terminal window and do echo $SOMEVAR its not taking properly, what could be wrong?
[01:23] <jamesgcd> mib_mib - it sounds simple, but have you logged in and out again yet? That file to my knowledge is only read once per session
[01:23] <mib_mib> jamesgcd: i haven't yet - i thought the .profile was reloaded with every new terminal
[01:24] <mib_mib> jamesgcd: will do
[01:24] <jamesgcd> mib_mib tell us how it goes afterwards then ;)
[01:24] <kmentat> It's the -j(number) flag I should use in make to run on multiple processing cores, right?
[01:24] <kmentat> Just wanted to double-check that
[01:26] <bonhoeffer> anyone know how to mount my hfs + usb drive to my ubuntu machine
[01:26] <Bray90820_> kmentat so your saying it's usb?
[01:26] <bonhoeffer> with read/write
[01:27] <escott> bonhoeffer, disable journaling
[01:27] <Ziber> For a cronjob, "0 0 * * 0 /path/to/command" would run weekly, right?
[01:30] <bonhoeffer> escott, thanks .. . disk manager the best way to do that?
[01:30] <bonhoeffer> escott, what is journaling anyway?
[01:30] <escott> bonhoeffer, something you probably shouldnt turn off
[01:31] <escott> bonhoeffer, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journaling_file_system
[01:31] <OerHeks> Ziber, yes, on Sunday > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto
[01:32] <bonhoeffer> escott, thanks
[01:32] <PadNet_201> how do I run a command when terminal loads?
[01:32] <escott> PadNet_201, add it to ~/.bashrc
[01:34] <PadNet_201> escott where at the end?
[01:34] <pxc> On other distros, Pulseaudio's maximum volume is determined by the volume of whichever application is currently loudest. Here on Ubuntu, it seems to be set independently. How can I revert to the default behavior?
[01:38] <mediacontest> New #website #design #logo #freelancer #contest on http://www.mediacontest.it  - design for a wedding planner. 1# Prize 600,00 €
[01:38] <escott> PadNet_201, sure wherever you would like
[01:38] <pxc> nvm. found it by searching for people looking to make the opposite change due to an old weirdness with VLC. For the record, it's called ‘flat volumes’
[01:39] <pxc> in pulseaudio, flat volume means the system maximum is dependent on the loudest open output stream
[01:40] <Ziber> thanks
[01:42] <jrdn_> 12.4 vs 12.10: Is anyone else having issues with dpkg not finding dependant libraries right away? I keep getting apt-get corruptions and have to continuesly reconfigure dpkg and update / reinstall apt-get
[01:47] <joshumax> hey, what's up with canonical's git server randomly hanging up?
[01:49] <joshumax> hmm, no ones chatting?
[01:50] <raginronaldepaul> hello?
[01:51] <kmentat> joshumax, raginronaldepaul, shh, the Oscars are on
[01:51] <joshumax> k
[01:51] <raginronaldepaul> lol srry
[01:51] <joshumax> whaa?
[01:51] <joshumax> who has my ip?
[01:51] <joshumax> guest38345 how?
[01:52] <raginronaldepaul> 24-18-22-124.hsd1.wa.comcast.net
[01:52] <raginronaldepaul> its cuz it logs ur ip when u sign up
[01:52] <joshumax> yes
[01:52] <joshumax> oh wait my friend was on irc
[01:52] <aetaric_> sign up?
[01:52] <aetaric_> >.>
[01:52] <raginronaldepaul> log on to the chatroom
[01:53] <aetaric_> that's not signing up...
[01:53] <raginronaldepaul> lol whats the difference>
[01:53] <raginronaldepaul> ?
[01:53] <joshumax> its just a difference in wording
[01:54] <joshumax> the meaning is the same
[01:54] <joshumax> i think
[01:54] <aetaric_> "signing up" is a term used when filling out a form, typically for a website.
[01:54] <raginronaldepaul> lol it is
[01:54] <aetaric_> also this channel is for ubuntu-related support
[01:54] <joshumax> Hey, what happened to all the people who asked dumb questions on this channel?
[01:54] <joshumax> yes
[01:55] <raginronaldepaul> but did you not have to fill out a form (albeit small) to get on this irc?
[01:55] <mdh> there are no dumb questions
[01:55] <aetaric_> if you want to be off topic please join #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:55] <raginronaldepaul> lol srry
[01:55] <joshumax> so, I actally have a support question?
[01:55] <kmentat> Sí.
[01:56] <aetaric_> about ubuntu?
[01:56] <joshumax> is it just me or is ubuntu's git servers a bit overloaded?
[01:56] <OY1R> how do i make 12.04 feel like Ubuntu ?
[01:56] <OY1R> how do i make 12.04 use gnome ?
[01:57] <aetaric_> OY1R, there are repos to install gnome3, but they break somethings iirc
[01:57] <aetaric_> joshumax, not sure about the git servers as i don't use them
[01:58] <joshumax> hmm, it might just be the volume of people accesing them right now
[01:58] <joshumax> ok, thank you
[01:58] <OY1R> so it's either the lame interface or a 'borken' distro.
[01:58] <joshumax> you could install xfce
[01:59] <aetaric_> OY1R, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1952291 the second thing on google.
[02:00] <mdh> OY1R: you can use any desktop environment pretty much, just might take a bit of work to get it the way you want
[02:00] <joshumax> exactly mdh, it may take a bit to configure but then again whats a reward without work? hehe
[02:01] <rains> thank u
[02:01] <mdh> OY1R: you might want to try mate desktop if you like gnome2
[02:02] <joshumax> or you could try gnome-fallback
[02:04] <pratose> How do I install nvidia 304.64 driver on 12.04 ? Please help.
[02:04] <joshumax> pratose, first stop gdm, switch to another tty, and run the installer as root
[02:05] <joshumax> oh wait lightdm not gdm
[02:06] <yourimym1> any ine using deja dup ?
[02:06] <excervo> hello guys can someone help me with my remote connection I'm using 12.4
[02:07] <joshumax> whats wrong with the ramote connection?
[02:07] <pratose> I'm trying to install manually.
[02:08] <joshumax> trying to install the drivers manually?
[02:09] <pratose> yes
[02:09] <joshumax> okay, so download them from nvidia's site
[02:09] <joshumax> then kill lightdm
[02:10] <pratose> already downloaded. command to kill display manager?
[02:10] <joshumax> okay, you might want to save your work..
[02:11] <joshumax> sudo service stop lightdm
[02:11] <excervo> Hello guys, any luck installing pc anywhere under ubuntu 12.10?
[02:11] <joshumax> the cd (wherever drivers were downloaded to)
[02:11] <joshumax> *then
[02:12] <pratose> driver is in download folder, i need to burn it?
[02:12] <joshumax> and finally run sudo ./NVIDIA*
[02:12] <joshumax> no
[02:12] <joshumax> just execute it without a display manager
[02:13] <joshumax> idk if it will work in gui mode but mine said you need to stop x
[02:17] <xkf815> hello?
[02:17] <joshumax> hi
[02:17] <xkf815> ~.~
[02:17] <pratose> hey josh, do you know where i can find readable instructions?
[02:18] <joshumax> instructions for what?
[02:18] <pratose> intalling drivers
[02:18] <joshumax> i can do a quick search for it
[02:18] <joshumax> if i cant find anything you could check stackoverflow
[02:19] <pratose> cool
[02:19] <joshumax> try this: http://www.noobslab.com/2012/10/install-latest-nvidia-drivers-in-ubuntu.html
[02:20] <joshumax> I'd give you step by step instructions pratose but I use debain which is a bit different lol
[02:22] <iFlip> Does anyone know if there is a way to setup Ubuntu LAMP 10.04 with a TV tuner server ability?
[02:22] <excervo> hello guys, can som1 advise me which remote tools are best I 'm using 12.10
[02:22] <joshumax> what is a tv tuner server?
[02:23] <joshumax> joshumax is now AFK
[02:23] <iFlip> The TV stations that are broadcasted over the air - create a server program to allow clients to watch the live TV braodcast
[02:24] <Monotoko> iFlip, through the browser?
[02:24] <Monotoko> you might be able to do with a VLC stream
[02:24] <iFlip> Essentially a media server that would allow my iPads, TV, or whatever to access the server and watch the TV staions that came into the server
[02:25] <joshumax> oh i see
[02:25] <iFlip> I have an antenna but I want something more reliable
[02:25] <iFlip> IPTV I suppose
[02:26] <joshumax> u try MythBuntu?
[02:26] <keys> hello
[02:26] <joshumax> hi
[02:26] <keys> has anyone used ubuntu for phones os yet
[02:26] <joshumax> yes
[02:26] <iFlip> I saw mythtv but that looked like a DVR of some sort maybe I didn't read enough
[02:26] <Monotoko> keys, I have.. it's not brilliant yet, certainly not useful for everyday stuff
[02:26] <joshumax> its exactly what you want i think
[02:27] <iFlip> keys - asterisk works great
[02:27] <joshumax> and the ubuntu for phones git server keeps crashing
[02:27] <keys> im looking into buying an android phone for use it on
[02:27] <Monotoko> keys, Nexus 4
[02:27] <keys> im not worried about it being great right now that will come in time
[02:27] <joshumax> u might want to wait, its more of a POC than anything
[02:27] <iFlip> keys - scratch what I said wrong topic
[02:28] <keys> whats the min ram requirements
[02:28] <joshumax> 1gb slim mode
[02:28] <Monotoko> uhm... I'm not sure, I know it's available for the N4 though, and it's a great phone (and quite cheap for its specs)
[02:29] <mdh> have they even got a terminal for ubuntu phone yet?
[02:29] <joshumax> ive seen some ports for the s3 though too, and actually right now im porting it to the d2tmo lol
[02:29] <joshumax> yes
[02:29] <keys> could it run on the agm rock / cat b10 phone
[02:29] <Monotoko> joshumax, are you sure?
[02:29] <joshumax> yes
[02:29] <Monotoko> I had to login via SSH
[02:29] <joshumax> hmm?
[02:30] <joshumax> odd..
[02:30] <Monotoko> I tried it on the day it came out... there was no terminal on it, you had to login through SSH
[02:30] <Monotoko> which was only a few days ago
[02:30] <mdh> for some reason i thought that was really suprising that there was no local terminal, would have thought that would be one of the first things to have lol
[02:30] <joshumax> i dont know
[02:31] <joshumax> the code i just checked out has gnome-terminal.desktop
[02:31] <Monotoko> mdh, I think it needed longer... I don't know why they hyped it up so much considering it clearly isn't finished
[02:31] <Monotoko> it's a platform for developers, that's it
[02:31] <genii-around> !phone
[02:31] <joshumax> yes just give it time
[02:31] <mdh> slow night here
[02:33] <joshumax> yeah it is a slow night on this channel
[02:34] <dakotawulfy> not too much going on
[02:35] <XSevenX> Can anyone help me understand what to do in this guide?
[02:36] <joshumax> what guide?
[02:36] <XSevenX> I'm trying to get a Windows program to run properly on Ubuntu through Wine, but every guide I find has a standard set where the reader would have to have familiarity with Wine and/or Ubuntu/Linux
[02:36] <XSevenX> and I have no clue how to use either
[02:36] <XSevenX> http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=19141
[02:36] <joshumax> well then welcome to GNULinux :)
[02:36] <joshumax> ill read it..
[02:36] <XSevenX> This guide for running League of Legends
[02:37] <XSevenX> It seemed straightforward, and then it gets into a script
[02:37] <XSevenX> I don't even understand: where this script is that I just downloaded, how to use this script, how to use wine, how to use Linux
[02:37] <XSevenX> I also don't understand anything about the script, and I don't really want to learn about it, I just want this game to work, because the entire reason I built this system was to play games and watch videos online
[02:37] <joshumax> okay.. lets step through this slowly
[02:38] <mdh> XSevenX: why didn't you just install windows?
[02:38] <maitake> lol
[02:38] <XSevenX> because I can't afford it
[02:38] <XSevenX> I don't have $300 for a copy of Windows XP
[02:38] <joshumax> well did you try zorinOS?
[02:38] <XSevenX> no
[02:38] <dakotawulfy> XSevenX: it will get easier after u use it for a while
[02:38] <joshumax> its for ppl migrating from windows to linux
[02:38] <XSevenX> I've spent the past week trying to figure out how to use this OS
[02:39] <maitake> XSevenX: it gets easier with time
[02:39] <joshumax> okay, well 1st think to know about linux, say goodbye to shiny interfaces
[02:39] <joshumax> okay, so open terminal (ctrl-shift-t)
[02:39] <XSevenX> I've got it open
[02:40] <joshumax> okay, so now all u have to do is put in this script
[02:40] <XSevenX> I'm running on Ubuntu 12.10 86_64x I believe
[02:40] <XSevenX> or 86x_64 I can't remember where the x goes
[02:40] <XSevenX> either way it's 64-bit
[02:40] <joshumax> ok
[02:41] <XSevenX> I mean I can't even figure out how to update java on this shit
[02:41] <joshumax> well see the "#" remove that where it says $WINE /path_to/LoL_installer...
[02:41] <joshumax> okay just calm down, linux can be scary to new users
[02:41] <thejakenixon> hey guys!
[02:42] <joshumax> heyy
[02:42] <thejakenixon> how is everybody
[02:42] <joshumax> good, we have a new linux user here!
[02:42] <XSevenX> joshu I don't even know where the script is
[02:42] <thejakenixon> haha that's me
[02:42] <mdh> Does Ubuntu provide java? or just openjdk?
[02:42] <joshumax> okay nvm try this
[02:42] <thejakenixon> hailing on all frequencies from 12.10
[02:42] <XSevenX> I downloaded it, but now I don't know where the common directory is
[02:42] <joshumax> forget that
[02:43] <thejakenixon> anybody on here happen to be on a lenovo laptop?
[02:43] <joshumax> um you know how to use apt?
[02:43] <joshumax> im not on one
[02:43] <XSevenX> the last time I tried to download without using the terminal for sudo apt-get etc., my Ubuntu got an internal error, and had to shut down
[02:43] <joshumax> XsevenX: do you know how to use apt?
[02:43] <joshumax> wha??
[02:44] <XSevenX> I went to..
[02:44] <thejakenixon> I'm trying to invert two-finger touchpad scrolling to go with the direction of scrolling, not against it. is this possible?
[02:44] <XSevenX> usr/bin/apt.something
[02:44] <XSevenX> as the application for a .apt file
[02:44] <XSevenX> and that caused an internal error
[02:44] <joshumax> um, well idk what that is
[02:44] <joshumax> apt is just a nify tool to download filkes from ubuntu's servers
[02:45] <XSevenX> usr/bin/apt-key
[02:45] <joshumax> so just run apt-get install wine
[02:45] <mdh> apt is one of the best features of a debian-based system, it'll make your live so much easier
[02:45] <joshumax> mdh: so true
[02:45] <XSevenX> I have Wine
[02:45] <joshumax> ok
[02:45] <XSevenX> and Winetricks
[02:45] <XSevenX> and Play on Linux
[02:46] <joshumax> well ignore the guide and right click the exe and open Legue of Legends in wine.
[02:46] <thejakenixon> anybody here know anything about what I'm asking? inverting touchpad scroll?
[02:46] <joshumax> no sorry
[02:46] <joshumax> that should work XSevenX
[02:47] <thejakenixon> alrighty well thanks anyways guys.
[02:47] <XSevenX> nothing's happening
[02:47] <joshumax> hmm
[02:47] <XSevenX> it sounded like my CPU was "working", and then it stopped
[02:47] <joshumax> right click the exe and check permissions
[02:47] <brightspark> thejakenixon: try https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Touchpad_Synaptics#Natural_Scrolling
[02:48] <joshumax> see if "allow executing file as a program" is unchecked
[02:48] <XSevenX> r/w, r/w, r-o
[02:48] <joshumax> if it is, check it
[02:48] <XSevenX> oh okay
[02:48] <XSevenX> that was unchecked
[02:48] <mdh> XSevenX: was it a kernel panic or something? did it drop you to a console and display some error message?
[02:49] <XSevenX> mdh it just said there was an internal error or something, and kept saying it over and over
[02:49] <XSevenX> so I shut down
[02:49] <XSevenX> it didn't specifically tell me I needed to, but I figured that would fix it
[02:49] <XSevenX> and it did afaik
[02:49] <joshumax> did it say it attempted to kill init?
[02:49] <XSevenX> I can't remember
[02:49] <XSevenX> it was 2 days ago
[02:49] <joshumax> oh ok
[02:49] <XSevenX> I have been trying to get this OS to work for over a week
[02:49] <XSevenX> and the more I work on it
[02:50] <XSevenX> the less patience I have with it
[02:50] <joshumax> hmm
[02:50] <intrader> Good afternoon all - For some time my laptop has been overheating and shutting down (Lenovo t61p with Linux 12.10). I run Psensors (temp2 goes over 97C) and laptop shuts down. Problem showed up recently after an auto-update. by Update Manager. Application I am running is a is firefox with any video clip (specially in full screen mode). Problem does not show up in Windows XP and FIrefox on same clip.
[02:50] <XSevenX> every time I figure something out, I have to learn something else to learn something else to learn something else, to fix something else
[02:50] <joshumax> im afraid linux isnt really for windows gaming
[02:50] <joshumax> or general users XD
[02:50] <XSevenX> anyways the guide I linked you is in place because LoL doesn't normally run on Wine
[02:50] <XSevenX> and requires some workarounds to function
[02:50] <joshumax> hmm
[02:51] <aetaric_> joshumax, well, Steam is now on linux... SO
[02:51] <XSevenX> I have at least found the script that I downloaded for the guide
[02:51] <[Mod]Jordan> Hello
[02:51] <dr_willis> after fighting with some windows games on window.. i almost think windows isent for windows gameing...
[02:51] <mdh> steam on linux is still linux gaming, not trying to run windows games through wine (or at least running it through some tested config of wine or something)
[02:52] <aetaric_> true
[02:52] <dr_willis> be nice if steam had a wine option. i know quite a few of my games can work on steam in wine
[02:52] <[Mod]Jordan> I have open suse and need to install Ubuntu open suse is on /Dev/sda5 so do I set the mounting point / and ext4 journaled?
[02:52] <XSevenX> I have been playing Counter-Strike: Source, but that gets pretty old very fast
[02:52] <joshumax> well the patch seems pretty optional to me
[02:52] <dr_willis> [Mod]Jordan:  if you want to erase the opensuse, you set / to be mounted where your suse partion was at.
[02:53] <dr_willis> ext4 is the standard fs to use.
[02:53] <[Mod]Jordan> And format?
[02:53] <joshumax> XsevenX: try rinning wine from the terminal and see if u gat an error?
[02:53] <dr_willis> and be sure it formats.. that should also be the default
[02:53] <XSevenX> how do I run it from the terminal
[02:53] <[Mod]Jordan> Dr_Willis: so check format this partition?
[02:54] <AirCombat> hi everyone, just have a quick question. is it possible, and what are the commands to convert my ubuntu 12.10 Unity/Gnome to LXDE? Can I just install the LXDE package and then select that as my default session?
[02:54] <dr_willis> [Mod]Jordan:  yes - that should allready be checked normally
[02:54] <djBuss> hey guys I tried to install php5 but the default through apt-get was 5.4, then I used a script to downgrade it to 5.3. Now I would like to install PEAR but i can't because it says the PHP 5.4 is needed
[02:54] <[Mod]Jordan> It isnt
[02:54] <mdh> wine myprogram.exe
[02:54] <dr_willis> AirCombat:  install lubuntu-desktop package is what i do
[02:54] <joshumax> what mdh said
[02:54] <djBuss> is there any way for me to select the php5.3 PEAR package in apt-get?
[02:54] <intrader> About the list commands - how do I determine if the topic has been answered?
[02:55] <XSevenX> wine cannot find C:/Windows/system32/myprogram.exe
[02:55] <AirCombat> dr_willis: and after I apt-get that package, what additional steps do I need to take?
[02:55] <XSevenX> C:\\windows\\system32\\myprogram.exe*
[02:55] <dr_willis> AirCombat:  logout, select lxde/lubuntu at the login screen.. login
[02:55] <[Mod]Jordan> And Dr_Willis can I just leave /home and swap and my files will still be there?
[02:55] <dr_willis> XSevenX:  cd to where the game is at
[02:56] <joshumax> mdh, can u help XsevenX for a sec, om going afk.
[02:56] <mdh> XSevenX: myprogram.exe is just an example, you need to run the league of legends exe
[02:56] <dr_willis> [Mod]Jordan:  IF your /home/ is on its own partition yes. Youmay need to fix the ownership of the files in home.
[02:56] <mdh> joshumax: ok
[02:56] <Tynach> Please help, I don't know what to do. I was messing around with DNS servers, and whimsically switched to 127.0.0.1. Of course that doesn't work. Now I've tried switching it back to my normal DNS servers, but it won't!
[02:56] <XSevenX> okay I don't think I have a partition made for Windows
[02:56] <XSevenX> and I assume that I need that for Wine to function right?
[02:56] <dr_willis> Tynach:  0n 12.10    the default dns server is 127.0.0.1 i belive
[02:56] <Tynach> It shows in graphical NM settings the right DNS servers, and using nmcli I can see the right DNS server listed, but /etc/resolv.conf shows 127.0.0.1 still and DNS itself is not working.
[02:57] <Tynach> I'm on 12.04.
[02:57] <Tynach> I'm having to tether to my phone to get on IRC.
[02:57] <mdh> XSevenX: you don't need a separate partition, wine creates it's own windows "file system" under your home folder .wine
[02:57] <mdh> XSevenX: do you have league of legends installed?
[02:58] <dr_willis> Tynach:  you could edit the resolv.conf by hand.. you may need to restart networking for nm to change the file
[02:58] <joshumax> back what'd i miss
[02:58] <XSevenX_> disconnected or something
[02:59] <[Mod]Jordan> Dr_Willis: I.imgur.com/ZmaFZt3.png
[02:59] <Tynach> Here's the thing. DNS starts working just fine if I use DHCP, so obviously it's being set somewhere. But I have a specific IP address set (I don't control the router; can't set it router-side) and then things go south.
[02:59] <Tynach> I'll try that though.. Just to see.
[02:59] <bigbadben> I have two hard drives in my computer if I wanted to access one via the command line how would I do that?
[03:00] <joshumax> hey XSevenX i found this!: http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=973373
[03:00] <[Mod]Jordan> Dr_Willis: http://i.imgur.com/ZMaFZt3.png
[03:00] <dr_willis> bigbadben:  mount it somewhere.. use the normal bash commands, cd, ls , whatever.. to access it
[03:00] <dr_willis> !bash | bigbadben
[03:00] <XSevenX_> I've seen all that stuff joshu
[03:00] <XSevenX_> the problem is I don't want to learn any of this
[03:00] <XSevenX_> I'm getting to my wit's end
[03:00] <maitake> then you're probably going to.. have a hard time tbh
[03:00] <[Mod]Jordan> Dr_Willis?
[03:01] <bigbadben> What if it is already mounted?
[03:01] <joshumax> if you dont want to learn any of this than my advice is pay for windows
[03:01] <dr_willis> [Mod]Jordan: ?\
[03:01] <XSevenX_> I'm tired of having to learn more shit everytime I want to do anything on this os
[03:01] <XSevenX_> I have yet to enjoy my brand new PC at all
[03:01] <dr_willis> XSevenX_:  so you want us to tell you to give up?
[03:01] <joshumax> hmm, try zorin OS
[03:01] <joshumax> its free and it should be a good experience for you
[03:01] <[Mod]Jordan> dr_willis: Here are my partitions are the home and swap fine? Does anything need changed http://i.imgur.com/ZMaFZt3.png
[03:01] <XSevenX_> it doesn't matter what you tell me
[03:02] <joshumax> I'm just offering a new distro meant for windows users
[03:02] <dakotawulfy> XSevenX unity not the easiest os to use
[03:02] <dr_willis> [Mod]Jordan:  i dont know what the other partions are. you could mount the otheres whever you want so you can access them
[03:02] <Tynach> dr_willis, it says "$ sudo service networking start<newline>networking stop/waiting"
[03:02] <Tynach> And does not work.
[03:02] <jasonmce> I've got a 12.04 kubuntu desktop install that I want to move to a laptop.  Is there a known way to just clonezilla to a laptop drive and replace the hardware drivers, or am I just asking for years of configuration problems?
[03:02] <Tynach> DNS still won't work.
[03:02] <dr_willis> Tynach:  try to tell it to 'restart' not start
[03:03] <AirCombat> sorry, I got disconnected. did my question get answered dr_willis ?
[03:03] <dakotawulfy> XSevenX u might want to try zorin os
[03:03] <Tynach> dr_willis, same thing.
[03:03] <XSevenX_> why do people even use this OS
[03:03] <dr_willis> AirCombat:  i dont even rember the question.
[03:03] <joshumax> well most of us arent gamers
[03:03] <XSevenX_> the only thing I've ever used a PC for is for gaming and entertainmment
[03:03] <AirCombat> :P after I install the package lubuntu-desktop are there additional steps to activate it as default
[03:03] <dr_willis> XSevenX_:  wine/windows apps is not the focus.. and 'wine game.exe' is fairly straight forward..
[03:03] <joshumax> I play minecraft sometimes and portal but linux isnt usually a gamers OS
[03:04] <dr_willis> AirCombat:  log out.. select it.. log in
[03:04] <joshumax> mainly because of the lack of cross platform apps
[03:04] <AirCombat> okay, thats what I thought. thanks
[03:04] <XSevenX_> what's the point of having a PC then?
[03:04] <dr_willis> AirCombat:  little gear icon on the login screen
[03:04] <AirCombat> XSevenX_: why are you on a computer right now then?
[03:04] <Tynach> dr_willis, I tried to restart network-manager, and it just changed resolv.conf back to 127.0.0.1
[03:04] <dr_willis> computers were invented to play videos and pong! ;)
[03:04] <AirCombat> there's more than just games XSevenX_ .
[03:04] <joshumax> their's other things than just games to do on a computer.. ~.~
[03:04] <dr_willis> Tynach:  no idea then. i rarely have to mess with those settings
[03:04] <[Mod]Jordan> Dr_Willis how do I mount my home and swap drives?
[03:05] <Tynach> I have also tried rebooting to no avail.
[03:05] <AirCombat> I stream videos from my ubuntu server to my ubuntu PC in my bedroom for example
[03:05] <dr_willis> [Mod]Jordan:  same as you set for /   just dont format home
[03:05] <AirCombat> works %1000 times better than windows
[03:05] <[Mod]Jordan> Which one is home?
[03:05] <dr_willis> [Mod]Jordan:  just a guess.. the ONLY OTHER ext4 partition you have.. ;) since it cant be ntfs or fat32 for home...
[03:06] <friedg> Linux, Unix, and BSD are not for everyone
[03:06] <dr_willis> [Mod]Jordan:  mount them  and see what files are on it.
[03:06] <joshumax> true 😶
[03:07] <[Mod]Jordan> How do I see?
[03:07] <XSevenX_> all I know is at this point I'm sick of trying
[03:07] <friedg> sometimes people don't care about how it works or configuration, these people might be better off with a Mac or Windows
[03:07] <mdh> XSevenX_: to tell you the truth, probably about half ot the games you want to play will not be able to be played on linux well within 10 years of their release
[03:07] <dr_willis> mount them.. access them via the file manager  [Mod]Jordan
[03:07] <friedg> even though mac is Unix, it auto configures everything
[03:07] <XSevenX_> it's been nothing but work since I got the parts for this PC delivered
[03:07] <joshumax> well work is good, right?
[03:07] <dakotawulfy> joshumax u  like the unity???
[03:07] <dr_willis> XSevenX_:  so?
[03:08] <joshumax> no not really
[03:08] <joshumax> i miss gnome 2..
[03:08] <mdh> XSevenX_: i feel that the best advice for you if you want to run windows programs is to buy a copy of windows instead of trying to make linux run windows stuff
[03:08] <Tynach> XSevenX_, if you want video games, stick with Windows until Valve helps bring more games to Linux.
[03:08] <joshumax> Agreed..
[03:09] <dakotawulfy> i tired a lot of systems out there  most seem to be memory hungry
[03:09] <Tynach> XSevenX_, if you want a few reasons to have a PC beyond gaming and entertainment, we can list some. But they're probably not things you'd want to do anyway, given your attitude.
[03:09] <dr_willis> I do find most of the Humble Bundle/Indie games that dont have drm, tend to work well in wine for me
[03:09] <[Mod]Jordan> Dr_Willis: unable to mount home not authorized
[03:09] <Tynach> dr_willis, Humble Bundle games are primarily available natively on Linux.
[03:09] <joshumax> yeah and java games work flawlessly
[03:09] <XSevenX_> Tynach I just want to have a small amount of enjoyment for once out of my purchase
[03:09] <Tynach> XSevenX_, you did not purchase Ubuntu.
[03:09] <XSevenX_> not feel like I should regret ever making the purchase in the first place
[03:10] <XSevenX_> I paid $780 for an entire new system
[03:10] <dr_willis> Tynach:  i have quite a few that are not. had one that the linux native version was in adobe air. that wouldent even run.. wine ran the windows version fine. ;)
[03:10] <joshumax> well if you payed so much for this pc whats a little more money?
[03:10] <Tynach> Then install Windows on it.
[03:10] <XSevenX_> I can't afford windows
[03:10] <Tynach> Windows is what... $250?
[03:10] <[Mod]Jordan> Vyeah
[03:10] <joshumax> 39.99
[03:10] <[Mod]Jordan> That's 8
[03:10] <[Mod]Jordan> 7 is $250
[03:10] <Tynach> joshumax, is that for the upgrade or the full copy?
[03:10] <dr_willis> student discounts.. :)
[03:10] <[Mod]Jordan> Upgrade
[03:11] <[Mod]Jordan> Willis
[03:11] <joshumax> idk
[03:11] <[Mod]Jordan> I need you :)
[03:11] <friedg> Ubuntu is about the easiest thing you  can get for free....maybe linux mint
[03:11] <joshumax> or fedora maybe
[03:11] <Tynach> Linux Mint does have a few nice things.
[03:11] <XSevenX_> what's stupid is
[03:11] <Tynach> And I'd recommend Mint KDE.
[03:11] <dr_willis> [Mod]Jordan:  i just double click the partion in my file manager and it mounts.. or you try to mount it by hand with the mount command
[03:11] <XSevenX_> I've got licenses for Windows XP, Vista, and 7
[03:11] <intrader> About the list's commands - how do I determine if the topic has been answered?
[03:11] <Tynach> Mint KDE is very Windows-like.
[03:11] <XSevenX_> but I don't have any CD's
[03:11] <joshumax> yes Mint KDS is nice
[03:11] <joshumax> *KDE
[03:12] <Tynach> So if you want to have a minimal learning curve from Windows, use KDE.
[03:12] <XSevenX_> and microsoft refuses to give me any replacements
[03:12] <[Mod]Jordan> But I am not authorized apparently
[03:12] <mykeus> the isos are available online from microsoft directly
[03:12] <Tynach> XSevenX_, Mint KDE is on a DVD?
[03:12] <joshumax> oh no cd's use unetbootin
[03:12] <dr_willis> XSevenX_:  there are legal sites where you can get the windows 7 cd's if you got a key. saw them mentooned on the lifehacker web site
[03:12] <mdh> XSevenX_: can't you download a demo of 7 from microsoft and activate it with your key?
[03:12] <joshumax> Rules: no warez talk
[03:12] <Tynach> joshumax, if he has a key it isn't warez.
[03:12] <dr_willis> This wasent warez. it was legal because it was a MS site.
[03:13] <joshumax> oh he has it legally?
[03:13] <maitake> yes
[03:13] <maitake> 3 keys apparently
[03:13] <mdh> he needs install media, but has keys
[03:13] <joshumax> oh
[03:13] <dr_willis> According to Lifehacker site.. yes.. since it was from the same site you get windows when you buy it online.
[03:14] <dr_willis> they also had rescue/repair cd images which was what i needed.
[03:14] <dr_willis> the ##windows channel should know more
[03:14] <joshumax> XSevenX if u live by seattle you could go to pce they have free copies of xp legally
[03:15] <dr_willis> or he could spend the time and learn some linux skills.. ;)
[03:15] <maitake> ^^
[03:15] <maitake> it's fun
[03:15] <joshumax> it tis fun!!
[03:15] <mdh> not so fun if all you want to do is run windows only stuff though
[03:16] <maitake> has anyone suggested PlayOnLinux to him?
[03:16] <mykeus> man will be your best friend
[03:16] <joshumax> instead of playing LoL u could try compiling your own kernel, dont love it til u do it
[03:16] <friedg> sometimes you need to find a linux equivalent to a windows program
[03:16] <dr_willis> irc is the ultimate MMORPG
[03:16] <joshumax> oops stype
[03:16] <joshumax> *typo
[03:17] <maitake> personally i've customed out my gnome-shell installation and now i love it too much.. having to use windows at work drives me up the wall
[03:18] <dr_willis> hmm. steam on windows has like 30+gb of updates for me..  so i let it run as i slept.. woke up,, and it had auto logged me out.. and  thus stopped all updateing.. now nice of you steam...
[03:18] <joshumax> lol
[03:18] <dr_willis> hope they dont do the same thing on linux..
[03:18] <intrader> Anyluck on this item? Good evening all - For some time my laptop has been overheating and shutting down (Lenovo t61p with Linux 12.10). I run Psensors (temp2 goes over 97C) and laptop shuts down. Problem showed up recently after an auto-update. by Update Manager. Application I am running is a is firefox with any video clip (specially in full screen mode). Problem does not show up in Windows XP and FIrefox on same clip.
[03:19] <joshumax> try "acpi -a" intrader
[03:19] <AirCombat> after I install LXDE or KDE is it possible to free up space by deleting unity/gnome?
[03:19] <AirCombat> or is that a bad idea?
[03:20] <joshumax> no u can do that AirCombat
[03:20] <dr_willis> AirCombat:  i wouldent remove it.. unless you are really tight on space
[03:20] <joshumax> just dont let it uninstall X
[03:20] <AirCombat> lol conflicting answers.
[03:20] <joshumax> lol
[03:20] <AirCombat> okay joshumax how do I do that?
[03:20] <joshumax> best to be on the safe side
[03:20] <dr_willis> my answer was not conflucting..
[03:20] <AirCombat> (I liked your answer better ;)
[03:20] <dr_willis> AirCombat:  and how big is your hd?
[03:20] <AirCombat> 120GB
[03:20] <joshumax> well if you type apt-get autoremove unity blah
[03:21] <intrader> joshmc, I am istalling acpi
[03:21] <dr_willis> AirCombat:  and you are lacking in space? My whole linux system is on a 128gb SDD
[03:21] <joshumax> make sure your display manager and X arent in the uninstall list
[03:21] <AirCombat> pretty close dr_willis, I have lots of media on that HDD
[03:21] <joshumax> 120GB, uninstalling wint same much space
[03:21] <AirCombat> so the shells are pretty small then?
[03:22] <chipo> alguien que pueda hablar español por privado?
[03:22] <joshumax> pretty much, ~100mb
[03:22] <dr_willis> compared to the huge size of video files these days.. yes
[03:22] <joshumax> ~12mb shell only
[03:22] <AirCombat> okay cool. thanks guys! I always learn a lot when I come in here.
[03:22] <escott> !es | chipo
[03:22] <joshumax> yw, i learn alot here too
[03:22] <intrader> joshmc, acpi -a >>'Adapter -: on-line'
[03:22] <AirCombat> oh yeah, one more question. how do I defrag in ubuntu?
[03:23] <dr_willis> AirCombat:  no need to.. thats windows thinking
[03:23] <joshumax> no need to
[03:23] <AirCombat> so linux writes in sequence on the HDD?
[03:23] <dr_willis> !defrag
[03:23] <joshumax> intradar: does it show power supply power?
[03:23] <joshumax> *and heat?
[03:23] <AirCombat> interesting... didn't know that.
[03:23] <intrader> joshmc, acpi -a >>'Adapter 0 : on line'
[03:23] <AirCombat> god I love this OS.
[03:23] <joshumax> ;) its awesome
[03:24] <joshumax> hmm
[03:24] <intrader> joshmc, yes - I am having overheating problems with the battery so I took in out
[03:24] <joshumax> try acpi -c
[03:26] <intrader> joshmc, response is three lines Cooling 0: LCD 0 of 15
[03:26] <intrader> Cooling 1: Processor 0 of 10
[03:26] <intrader> Cooling 2: Processor 0 of 10
[03:26] <joshumax> no temp readouts
[03:26] <bigbadben> My computer just froze up and I had to kill the power to it, how do I find what the error is
[03:26] <joshumax> maybe its not acpi, stupid me
[03:27] <joshumax> ok i think i found a fix intrader
[03:27] <joshumax> it overheats when using firefox right?
[03:27] <intrader> joshmc, I am running psensor - temp2 is the range that is hit at the op end. How, do you find the fix?
[03:28] <AirCombat> hmm.. that website explained well why ext4 doesn't need defragging, except when close to full. and I'm definitely over %80. will it take care of itself?
[03:28] <dr_willis> full is like in the 98% range
[03:28] <dr_willis> even then. the system reserves 5%  for root ussage
[03:29] <AirCombat> yeah, I know that your performance will REALLY suffer when you get that close to %100. but with ext4 do you not lose performance in the %75-%90 range?
[03:29] <joshumax> well it could be numerous things
[03:29] <dr_willis> AirCombat:  i doubt it.
[03:29] <escott> AirCombat, properly designed filesystems will only be unable to dynamically defrag when the amount of free space is close to the size of the fragmented files themselves
[03:29] <joshumax> idk but i gtg guys. Today's pizza night :P
[03:29] <joshumax> Bye
[03:30] <AirCombat> okay. cool. man I love linux! I can't say it enough. I'm going to drop windows entirely soon.
[03:30] <escott> AirCombat, if you have 5 gigs free and a bunch of 3MB music files fragmentation really isn't going to be a problem
[03:30] <AirCombat> thanks dr_willis , joshumax  and escott
[03:30] <AirCombat> right but I have about 15GB free and like tons of 700mb to 2.4GB video files
[03:30] <XSevenX_> huehuehue, I just did a replacement request for my Win XP disc via Microsoft and got a system error messages from their website
[03:30] <XSevenX_> how stupid.
[03:31] <XSevenX_> my Windows XP disc is "OEM" (system builder package), so I can request a replacement because I was never given an original CD
[03:31] <AirCombat> XSevenX_: see? ubuntu's looking better already ;) downloading .isos is easier
[03:31] <XSevenX_> there is nothing on ubuntu that interests me
[03:32] <XSevenX_> this OS literally cannot do the only things I use a PC for
[03:33] <intrader> Joshumax I am anxiously waiting.
[03:34] <dr_willis> AirCombat:  best to keep your video files on a external (or other) hard drive. not the small SDD
[03:34] <dakotawulfy> intrader thought he left
[03:34] <AirCombat> yeah, I'm going to transfer them to my media server I guess. it's got almost 1TB. however my network is slow... all those files will take ages.
[03:34] <dr_willis> isent XP officially dead yet?
[03:35] <mykeus> yes support is
[03:35] <intrader> dakotawulfy, so sorry, so joshumax is gone?
[03:35] <AirCombat> dr_willis: yeah, very close. they're ending all support soon.
[03:35] <AirCombat> mykeus: some support still exists
[03:35] <XSevenX_> ..wtf
[03:35] <escott> AirCombat, this is an SSD? then fragmentation isn't really applicable anyways because its not a raw device
[03:35] <dr_willis> XSevenX_:  if you just built this pc.. then XP has a very good chance of not working.. or not having proper drivers for the new hardware
[03:35] <AirCombat> its not an SSD
[03:35] <dakotawulfy> intrader yep
[03:35] <XSevenX_> I have all of the installation discs for the drivers required by all the hardware in my PC
[03:35] <XSevenX_> my Win XP key is for Win XP Pro 64-bit
[03:36] <dr_willis> XSevenX_:  and hopefully they included xp support in the drivers.. i have quite a bit of hardware with NO xp support..
[03:36] <intrader> joshmc, joshumax said that he found a fix - I wonder what it is!
[03:37] <dakotawulfy> intrader fix for what i missed it
[03:37] <AirCombat> I just gave up on XP about a month ago, upgraded to Vista. now I'm transitioning from vista to ubuntu. best decision I ever made. EVERYTHING runs better & faster, from games to media, to network
[03:37] <AirCombat> anyway, thanks a ton, as usual guys. ttys.
[03:38] <XSevenX_> games don't run at all on Ubuntu
[03:38] <intrader> dakotawulfy, ,Anyluck on this item? Good evening all - For some time my laptop has been overheating and shutting down (Lenovo t61p with Linux 12.10). I run Psensors (temp2 goes over 97C) and laptop shuts down. Problem showed up recently after an auto-update. by Update Manager. Application I am running is a is firefox with any video clip (specially in full screen mode). Problem does not show up in Windows XP and FIrefox on same clip.
[03:38] <XSevenX_> and I used Vista for 3 years
[03:38] <XSevenX_> I would rather be using Vista right now instead of Ubuntu
[03:38] <dr_willis> XSevenX_:  i have quiet a few games that run on Ubuntu..
[03:39] <dr_willis> XSevenX_:  if you dont want ubuntu support.. then  theres other channels for you to hang in.  If you want support we are here to help.
[03:39] <intrader> dakotawulfy, ,joshmc had me run acpi -c with the following multiline results:Cooling 0: LCD 0 of 15
[03:39] <intrader> Cooling 1: Processor 0 of 10
[03:39] <intrader> Cooling 2: Processor 0 of 10
[03:40] <baumy> so i have a computer that needs to go through an html network login page to access the internet, so i can't use apt-get install to get firefox, which i need to put my info into the login page. is there an easy way to download the firefox package and all of its dependencies so i can stick them on a thumb drive?
[03:41] <intrader> baumy, use the 'Ubuntu Software Center'
[03:42] <baumy> its a server install
[03:42] <escott> baumy, there is not a good way
[03:42] <escott> baumy, you could try and use a text browser like lynx or links
[03:42] <baumy> already tried, the login page rejects it
[03:43] <baumy> ugh
[03:43] <escott> baumy, but firefox requires too much stuff
[03:43] <baumy> yep
[03:43] <baumy> thats why this is gonna be a bitch
[03:43] <aglet7> when i input "grep -c *c" it lists all the files which end with c but then also has a number after a colon. What does that number represent
[03:43] <escott> aglet7, line number
[03:43] <aglet7> escott, thanks : )
[03:43] <myersg> I need to remove all java, and open java stuff from my computer
[03:44] <myersg> and reinstall it
[03:44] <dr_willis> myersg:  why?
[03:44] <myersg> I messed it up.. and its not working right
[03:44] <dakotawulfy> intrader let me see what i can find does look like a bug
[03:44] <myersg> or didn't install right
[03:44] <dr_willis> myersg:  the open java can be removed/.reinstalled via the package manager tools..
[03:45] <dr_willis> thats the icetea java
[03:45] <myersg> how do I remove the normal java? jdk and jre?
[03:45] <intrader> dakotawulfy thanks - there are a lot of folks with overheating problems on ubuntu 12.10 - could be a bug
[03:45] <baumy> escott: slightly noob question, what folders do all the firefox stuff get installed to?
[03:45] <XSevenX_> overheating problems?
[03:45] <dakotawulfy> yep seen that
[03:46] <dr_willis> myersg:  you said 'all' java - so i would guess you want to remove all of those jdk and jre.. we dont know what you messed up
[03:46] <daughain> Can someone point me in the right direction to find out how to regain access rights to an old external drive? Running 12.04, if it matters.
[03:46] <escott> baumy, its not so much firefox but all the support libraries that are the problem. X11, sqlite, gtk? etc
[03:46] <myersg> ok.. give me a minute
[03:46] <dr_willis> daughain:  access it as root via sudo. from a live cd. or installed system., or recovery mode
[03:46] <escott> baumy, you might be able to find a statically linked firefox, but even that...
[03:47] <daesu_> Anyone know a good store like system76 in Korea ?
[03:47] <dr_willis> daughain:  what filesystem is on the HD?
[03:47] <intrader> XSevenX_, dakotawulfy  is following up on the overheating problems for t61p lenovo running linux 12.10 firefox video clip
[03:47] <escott> baumy, do you have a laptop that could put in ics mode between it
[03:47] <escott> ?
[03:47] <myersg> I used this: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1kl6BBedu4uplvhdFvF2s82rPcCi6ElY8PUbrsCBNVKs/edit
[03:47] <XSevenX_> oh
[03:47] <escott> baumy, or put the server in ics for the laptop, and then use the laptop to punch the hole through?
[03:47] <daughain> dr_willis, This is, and always has been an external drive. Should be ext3
[03:47] <XSevenX_> I don't think I've got any overheating issues
[03:47] <escott> !ics | baumy
[03:48] <XSevenX_> but I just wanted to know if there was a reason to be concerned because I'm using 12.10
[03:48] <escott> baumy, and if its a one time thing you could do it all static so you dont need to install much
[03:48] <dr_willis> daughain:  for ext2/3/4 you  can mount it as you would an internal drive. if you want a USER to have access to it. hen you need to chown the files on it - to be owned by that user
[03:49] <intrader> XSevenX_, when I go full screen Psensors temp2 goes to 97C and the machine shuts down.
[03:49] <daughain> dr_willis; I'd prefer no to remove it from the casing. Can I simply chown using the mount point?
[03:50] <dr_willis> daughain: err.. who said anything about removeing it from the caseing?  the same commands apply to internal OR external drives.. you chown the files  and  that would include the mountpoint AFTER its mounted - if you want the user to have full access to the root of the hard drive
[03:51] <LoneTrooper> Hi I have a problem. I just installed propriety drivers for the all-in-one printer/scanner HP 1050A and printing works fine but i can't change quality for scanning. Its like all type of files that have been saved (even png) comes with ugly jpeg compression artifacts. I have Xsane and simple scan to handle scans. I was trying to change preferences in these progs but that did nothing. In Windows i could easy do that. Does anyone have s
[03:51] <LoneTrooper> ome suggestions pls?
[03:51] <XSevenX_> intrader I installed that application Psensor
[03:51] <dakotawulfy> intrader u could try this
[03:51] <dakotawulfy> "TPFanContro
[03:51] <daughain> I'd prefer root access, but as long as I can read and write to it, thats fine. Basically, I plug it in, it mounts, then says I have no access.
[03:51] <dakotawulfy> "TPFanControl
[03:52] <dr_willis> daughain:  accessing it as a USER.. that makes sence.. since its ext2/3/4 - its owned by someone otehr then that user...
[03:52] <dakotawulfy> let u manual control over the fans
[03:52] <intrader> dakotawulfy, what should I try?
[03:52] <dr_willis> daughain:  use the shell and  access it as root..  and you should have full access
[03:52] <daughain> dr_willis, Thanks for the help.
[03:53] <intrader> XSevenX_, from the terminal start it and then choose temp2
[03:53] <XSevenX_> it's up
[03:53] <dakotawulfy> intrader check out
[03:54] <XSevenX_> I have temp 1, temp 2, GPU, core 0, core 1, physical ID 0, /dev/sda, and cpu usage
[03:54] <intrader> dakotawulfy, check out what?
[03:54] <dakotawulfy> http://sourceforge.net/projects/tp4xfancontrol/
[03:55] <intrader> XSevenX_, that's is correct - I have temp2 and cpu usuge tracing
[03:55] <XSevenX_> wtf
[03:55] <XSevenX_> my "core 0" just went up to 41c
[03:55] <XSevenX_> and then shot back down to 29c
[03:55] <LoneTrooper> so anyone knows about scanning issues with linux?
[03:55] <dakotawulfy> be careful is a heat problem don't want to go with it too long
[03:56] <intrader> dakotawulfy, should I go to the sourceforge url?
[03:56] <dr_willis> or is it a heat getting missreported problem?
[03:56] <dakotawulfy> see if u can find info for it read up on it
[03:56] <dakotawulfy>  looks like that could be a fix for u
[03:57] <intrader> dakotawulfy, I was wondering why I don't hear fans on this machine
[03:58] <dakotawulfy> it might not be coming on
[03:58] <dakotawulfy> that might be your problem
[03:59] <dakotawulfy>  maybe the power management for your laptop not detecting it right
[03:59] <dakotawulfy> that tool
[03:59] <dakotawulfy>  should let u set it at something to see if thats it
[04:00] <madsailor> LoneTrooper, can't help except to say hplip and simple scan do the trick for me on 12.04 for a Photosmart c4700 series
[04:00] <daughain> Ok, what am I missing here? daughain@Antiquity-Mobi:/media$ sudo chown -hR /storage
[04:00] <daughain> chown: missing operand after `/storage'
[04:01] <LoneTrooper> madsailor so i must find another program to do so?
[04:01] <LoneTrooper> or its just because of drivers...
[04:02] <LoneTrooper> but thx for answer
[04:03] <intrader> dakotawulfy, I definitively do no have problem with same videos on Windows XP on same machine; fans do not go on yet!  It is is only Linux.
[04:04] <dakotawulfy> intrader sorry that for xp
[04:04] <dakotawulfy> no sorry
[04:04] <dakotawulfy>  thought that was tool for linux
[04:04] <surbs> is it possible to remove the "desktop" folder from Ubuntu One as a shared folder? I understand that you can stop syncing it, but what about removal from the application?
[04:05] <dakotawulfy> intrader if your driver that controls that on linux is not right u will have that problem
[04:06] <intrader> dakotawulfy, and the correct driver is... Video driver?
[04:06] <madsailor> LoneTrooper,  I can't help 'cause it 'just worked' for me and didn't have any issues.  I installed hplip from the software center along with simple scan, and it all worked out of the box.  I don't know what driver you are using, but you might try uninstalling it and using the hplip driver
[04:06] <dakotawulfy> intrader do u know if u have power management  working or installed
[04:07] <dakotawulfy> well that could be it to
[04:07] <dakotawulfy>  did u try jocky to install the driver
[04:08] <un-1> hello
[04:08] <LoneTrooper> im using proprietary drivers from hp's web site (thats hiplip 3.13.2)
[04:08] <un-1> Could someone help me with a Red5 question?
[04:09] <intrader> dakotawulfy, power management is running and set to run the laptop at full speed as I have the Windowx XP set at. By the way Psensor show fan1 ad 3055 RPM ( is is WAY silent!)
[04:09] <glo> Help. 3 times to install ubuntu 12.10 Finally works but runs like molasses... nearly unusable.
[04:09] <LoneTrooper> i had to cos those drivers that come with xubuntu could print well ( i had yellow replaced by green lol)
[04:10] <LoneTrooper> could not
[04:10] <dakotawulfy> right that in windows but what about linux
[04:10] <dakotawulfy> did u open the powermanament in linux see if u could set it up
[04:11] <glo> Need to know. Is linux suppossed to run like windows?
[04:11] <daughain> Can someone help me with some chown problems?
[04:11] <intrader> dakotawulfy, power management show up as an optiion when the battery is in. As I said, the battery overheated, and I am running the laptop without it.
[04:11] <glo> Tok 2 hours to get to this forum.
[04:12] <glo> Whats a chown
[04:13] <dakotawulfy> intrader so not getting hot without battery
[04:13] <dakotawulfy> ???
[04:13] <daughain> chown is a cli command to change ownership of files/folders/etc
[04:13] <glo> Ubuntu thinks my pc is a laptop .. can not change it.
[04:13] <histo> glo: What type of video card do you have?
[04:14] <histo> glo: Why do you think it thinks your pc is a laptop? It doesn't think at all.
[04:14] <glo> thanks, nvidia 8600 gts
[04:14] <madsailor> LoneTrooper,  if the drivers you got from HP aren't specific to xu/buntu that may be some of the problem.  I'd hold on to the install (.deb) you got from HP as a fallback,  uninstall that, and install the version from the ubuntu repos (3.12.2)
[04:14] <glo> athalon 64 3200 1.99 ghz 1.5 gram
[04:14] <madsailor> then if you have no luck you can always return to where you're at now
[04:14] <histo> glo: under system settings > software sources > There is a Hardware tab
[04:15] <histo> glo: Install proper drivers for your nvidia card there as they aren't provided out of the gate on ubuntu due to licensing restrictions.
[04:15] <histo> glo: You are currently running the open source nouveau driver which doesn't have as good of performance as the nvidia driver.
[04:15] <intrader> dakotawulfy, it does get hot and shuts down. It is worse if a page with multiple videos are showing.
[04:16] <glo> thanks ... its run  ing    s ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo    slooooooooooooooooooooooow... big pain.
[04:16] <LoneTrooper> yeh i had them but like i said by printing some colors were wrong i had to change to proprietary ones
[04:16] <daughain> How do I change the computer name?
[04:17] <LoneTrooper> the most important thing that printing works now i think i dont need to scan in nearest future
[04:17] <histo> !hostname | daughain
[04:17] <dakotawulfy> intrader have not found it yet  but should be a tool to let u controle the fans
[04:17] <intrader> dakotawulfy, sorry I misled you about the battery. I had to take batery out. due to the overheating problems on the laptop. The side on the left top is way hot (cook and egg easily)
[04:18] <dakotawulfy> see still think it is a power management issue
[04:18] <un-1> could I get some help from someone?
[04:18] <glo> it will take awhile  to open that
[04:19] <un-1> I have been working on this problem for 9 hours and im stuck
[04:19] <dakotawulfy>  do u have that problem in windows with the battery ???
[04:19] <tgm4883_> !ask | un-1
[04:19] <LoneTrooper> GLO - if u re looking for what performance drivers for windows and linux offer u should check for example http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_windows_part1&num=1
[04:19] <glo> software sources is open... now where?
[04:19] <un-1> ok sorry about that.
[04:19] <intrader> dakotawulfy, the fan is cycling and shows in PSensor - so something is controlling it. I don't like unity as a lot of the control functionality is not easily accessible or different
[04:20] <dakotawulfy> yep unity is hard
[04:20] <dakotawulfy> sorry did not find the fix for it
[04:21] <un-1> I am trying to setup a streaming server using red5.  I have installed the deb, but the server doesnt seem to run.  I am running it on ubuntu 12.04 on a cloud server, VPS.  I have Root ssh access, and am trying to figure out how to do use RED5.  I would rather not use wowza as it is propriatary and I am all about open source.
[04:21] <histo> glo: the hardware tab at the top
[04:21] <intrader> dakotawulfy, the fan grill is hot but I can't really detect a fan stream.
[04:22] <histo> un-1: why did you enable root? especially for ssh login?
[04:22] <dakotawulfy>  look to see if u can find a program to control the fans  and see if u can set the fan to a higher speed on the video card
[04:22] <glo> it was initially running a linux graphic driver. I opted for the Nvidia listed. NOw I can not find that list. It was however slower with the linux gxo whatever.
[04:22] <madsailor> LoneTrooper,  you should be able to get full functionality as hp printers are pretty well supported on the 'buntu platforms.  Unfortunately, I'm not the one to help you get there.  You might take a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HPPrinterInstallation.
[04:22] <DarkLord> can anyone answer a display question for Ubuntu
[04:22] <un-1> histo: I was given access as root to start, this is what the provider gave me.
[04:22] <madsailor> or you could just print out a sign to remind yourself to do it later since printing is working ;)
[04:22] <histo> un-1: oh boy... anyhoot http://www.red5.org/support/
[04:23] <dakotawulfy> intrader i dont think it is telling it to work right
[04:23] <histo> un-1: Shouldn't be enabling root account when we are using sudo. Especially shouldn't be enabling root to login over ssh.
[04:23] <glo> It's just to slow to work with.
[04:23] <LoneTrooper> ok i check this out madsailor thx for a tip
[04:23] <histo> glo: did you install the nvidia driver?
[04:23] <glo> yes
[04:24] <histo> glo: After installing it, it should ask to reboot. then you will see a diference.
[04:24] <nicolenicole> I cannot install Ubuntu 12.10 64-bit via UEFI live DVD to a computer with Windows 8 Pro 64-bit, any help?  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2119734
[04:24] <glo> been there.
[04:24] <histo> !uefi | nicolenicole
[04:25] <nicolenicole> I've already read that
[04:25] <un-1> histo: should I desable root and just use sudo?
[04:25] <glo> Where is that driver list option.
[04:25] <intrader> dakotawulfy, 3765 RPM and ranges from 3025
[04:25] <DarkLord> can anyone tell me why half of my top bar where the time is displayed and the bar on the right side i can only see half of both of them on my 46 lcd?
[04:26] <histo> nicolenicole: I would verify your disk with md5sum real quick just to be sure.
[04:26] <nicolenicole> the disk is fine, it installed on my old computer ok
[04:27] <dakotawulfy> intrader do u know for sure that is the fan on the video ???or if it has one on video ??
[04:27] <dakotawulfy> seem low
[04:27] <histo> nicolenicole: It only takes minutes to check. But you can keep guessing at what's wrong or eliminate possibilities and troubleshoot.
[04:27] <DarkLord> anyone?
[04:28] <histo> DarkLord: overscan?
[04:28] <glo> thanks... done with linux
[04:28] <nicolenicole> I've tried several disks and all have the same issue, the problem is definitely with the computer somewhere, my guess is either graphics or in the EFI settings
[04:28] <daughain> DarkLord, I havent used anything bigger than a 26, so no clue
[04:28] <histo> glo: Okay you cant open a terminal ctrl+alt+t and sudo apt-get install nvidia-current then reboot
[04:29] <intrader> dakotawulfy, maybe the Psensor is measuring current to fan and not speed of fan and air flow . The PSensor graph shows the fan speed to go past 4000 RPM when temp2 shows 97C. I could try a youTube at full screen and see what happens next
[04:29] <histo> nicolenicole: Disable efi then and see if that's the issue. Boot in legacy mode.
[04:29] <DarkLord> its a fresh install of Ubuntu for a new user of Linux on my windows 7 Ult i had the amd catalyst control that let me scale the window to fit
[04:29] <nicolenicole> I tried that already, same issue
[04:29] <LoneTrooper> Does anyone have xnViewMP installed? Program can't properly display files (it shows few bars across the screen) if using high quality zoom (either with reduce, enlarge or both) on images with reduced depth of colors (except grayscale). Has anyone experienced this on ubuntu 12.10?
[04:29] <un-1> Thank you everyone found the info I was look for.
[04:30] <histo> nicolenicole: Then it's not EFI so.....
[04:30] <nicolenicole> I tried installing on both MBR and GPT partition tables, with UEFI disabled and enabled, several times
[04:30] <histo> nicolenicole: Okay and what happens each time?
[04:30] <surbs> is it possible to remove the "desktop" folder from Ubuntu One as a shared folder? I understand that you can stop syncing it, but what about removal from the application? (last time posting, thank you to whoever responds)
[04:30] <nicolenicole> if it isn't EFI then it might be a graphics issue, several posts said I needed to press F6 and use nomodeset
[04:31] <histo> !patience | surbs
[04:31] <histo> nicolenicole: Have you tried passing that option?
[04:31] <nicolenicole> I get the text menu to try or install Ubuntu after the UEFI disc boot, upon selecting option, get a blank black screen
[04:31] <nicolenicole> F6 doesn't do anything
[04:31] <nicolenicole> I've tried pressing it at several points during the boot and throughout
[04:31] <histo> nicolenicole: F4 i think is the options menu it should say right at the bottom.
[04:32] <dr_willis> surbs:  theres a #ubuntu-one channel that may know more on the specifis.
[04:32] <dr_willis> I dont think i have 'Desktop' as a Ubuntu one shares/synced folder.
[04:32] <intrader> dakotawulfy, as soon as I have a full screen video the temperature temp2 starts going up- video http://www.tricedesigns.com/2013/02/19/video-introduction-to-phonegap/
[04:32] <histo> come on hard drives 110MB/second need mor espeed
[04:32] <nicolenicole> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2119734 --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 doesn't work
[04:33] <daughain> dr_willis, got so,e time to help me with my HD?
[04:33] <nicolenicole> I didn't try F4 though
[04:33] <dr_willis> daughain:  what do you need?
[04:33] <surbs> histo, dr_willis: thank you. my apologies for the double post, patience certainly is a virtue!
[04:33] <LoneTrooper> anyone had or have XnViewMP?
[04:33] <nicolenicole> it looks like the F-keys are for the graphic menu and not the UEFI text menu though?
[04:33] <daughain> dr_willis, chown didnt work too well. the drive did something, but it didnt give me ownership.
[04:34] <dr_willis> daughain:  what was the exact command you used?
[04:34] <daughain> sudo chown -hR root /media/storage
[04:34] <daughain> dr_willis, as i recall.
[04:34] <dr_willis> daughain:  it was most likely allready owned by root...
[04:35] <intrader> dakotawulfy, up to 95C, it will shut the machine down shortly
[04:35] <histo> nicolenicole: You can try the alternate iso for a text based installer.
[04:35] <dr_willis> daughain:  and your want to access it via the gui as your user? or how excatly?
[04:35] <nicolenicole> I'll probably get lost, but according to the Ubuntu instructions, I shouldn't need it?
[04:36] <intrader> dakotawulfy, up to 96C and very hot to touch --- fan1 to 2950RPM???
[04:36] <daughain> dr_willis,  Prefferably so I can access it on the gui of 3 different computers. I did a reinstall on my desktop, and thats when the reading issues started.
[04:36] <dr_willis> daughain:  you have the same user on 3 differnt computers?
[04:36] <daughain> Yes.
[04:36] <dr_willis> daughain:  then chown the mountpoint and files to be owned by that user.. not root
[04:37] <daughain> HOw do I do that?
[04:37] <dr_willis> chown -R username:username /media/whatever
[04:37] <dr_willis> with a sudo at the front. ;)
[04:37] <antonio_> I'm working on a friends computer that they just bought...can
[04:37] <antonio_> can't get wireless...using a livecd to test the wireless...
[04:37] <nicolenicole> could EFI be preventing the live DVD from booting?  I get the boot menu though
[04:37] <daughain> dr_willis,  Ok, will try that, thanks.
[04:37] <DarkLord> is there a scale in Ubuntu that alows you to scale the size of windows my 46 lcd is in 1080 but my side bar and yop bar is cut in half
[04:38] <antonio_> what terminal commands can I use to see if there is a working wifi card in it?
[04:38] <surbs> dr_willis, histo : never mind figured it out: http://askubuntu.com/questions/149124/how-do-i-remove-a-folder-from-the-ubuntu-one-folders-tab
[04:38] <dr_willis> DarkLord:  are yopu using a TV as a pc  monitor?
[04:39] <intrader> dakotawulfy, up to 98C and very hot to touch --- fan1 to 3295RPM???
[04:39] <histo> nicolenicole: Which boot menu are you getting can you post a screenshot?
[04:39] <histo> !paste | nicolenicole
[04:39] <nicolenicole> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI --> Identifying if the computer boots the CD in EFI mode
[04:39] <DarkLord> dr_willis yes i use a tv as my main monitor for my laptop
[04:40] <histo> nicolenicole: Perhaps someone else can help you
[04:40] <nicolenicole> the CD boots in EFI mode but when selecting try or install goes to a blank screen
[04:40] <dr_willis> DarkLord:  then its the tvs Overscan settings/modes thats trimming off the edges of the screen.
[04:40] <antonio_> What terminal command can I use to see if there is a wifi card in a laptop?
[04:40] <slava_> ai ne ponemai
[04:40] <dr_willis> antonio_:  lspci
[04:41] <daughain> Ok, not the drive I thoiught it was, but one I thought was lost!
[04:41] <nicolenicole> could it just be a graphics issue?
[04:41] <nicolenicole> the computer was manufactured in 2012 by HP with AMD graphcis
[04:42] <histo> DarkLord: You can play with DPI settings,resolutions, or play with the TVs settings. Most have a button on the remote for different modes
[04:42] <nicolenicole> *graphics
[04:42] <intrader> dakotawulfy, up to 98C - grill would burn finger or palm
[04:42] <slava_> кто небудь помогите как пользоваться консолью ???
[04:42] <daughain> And poeple wonder wjhy I refuse to buy HP anymore.....
[04:42] <histo> nicolenicole: It could be anything but you don't want to try anything.
[04:42] <DarkLord> dr_willis before i installed Ubuntu i had the amd catalyst center that had a slider that would change the scale of the windows
[04:43] <DarkLord> do i need to install a video driver or does Ubuntu auto install one?
[04:43] <histo> DarkLord: what version of ubuntu?
[04:43] <dr_willis> DarkLord:  ive used that befor.. then i discovered my tv had a 'turn off overscan' option
[04:43] <dr_willis> DarkLord:  the fglrx driver is normally NOT installed by default
[04:43] <DarkLord> Im usung Ubuntu 12.10
[04:43] <slava_> au pomogite
[04:43] <DarkLord> 64bit
[04:43] <aetaric_> nicolenicole, i've actually run into that problem... i can get 12.04 alternative iso to boot but only if i add the kernel option "nomodeset"
[04:44] <nicolenicole> yes I saw those posts
[04:44] <aetaric_> which breaks X11 later... :/
[04:44] <nicolenicole> it said to use F6 to install with nomodeset
[04:44] <histo> DarkLord: Click the gear up by the clock go to system settings > Software Sources > hardware tab
[04:44] <nicolenicole> but F6 doesn't do anything, is there another way?
[04:44] <aetaric_> not sure
[04:45] <aetaric_> the iso i've been using loads grub2
[04:45] <nicolenicole> what is the alternative ISO?
[04:45] <aetaric_> it's a text based installer...
[04:45] <nicolenicole> does that install the full Ubuntu?
[04:45] <aetaric_> yes
[04:45] <nicolenicole> I would need a manual, I'm not the best at command line :-p
[04:45] <aetaric_> but my X11 doesn't load
[04:46] <aetaric_> so there's that
[04:46] <nicolenicole> do you have a link with instructions?
[04:46] <DarkLord> histo there is not a hardware tab for me in software sources only Ubuntu software, other software updates, authentication and additional drivers?
[04:46] <nicolenicole> what is X11?
[04:46] <histo> nicolenicole: press e on that boot screen you are seeing
[04:46] <dr_willis> DarkLord:  addational-0drivers is what you want
[04:46] <aetaric_> !X11
[04:47] <nicolenicole> I would have to log out
[04:47] <daughain> Is there a way to test an HD that wont mount?
[04:47] <nicolenicole> *of here
[04:47] <aetaric_> !x11 | nicolenicole
[04:47] <dr_willis> daughain:  try mounting it by hand. look for error messages in dmesg if it fauls
[04:47] <dr_willis> fails
[04:47] <nicolenicole> so you don't have GUI?
[04:47] <aetaric_> nope
[04:47] <histo> nicolenicole: well you can press e and it should bring up a kernel line at the bottom of the screen you can add whatever options you want to the selected kernel at the end of the line
[04:47] <aetaric_> i'm stuck in bash
[04:47] <nicolenicole> eeks no that is not for me
[04:47] <nicolenicole> I'm a casual user lol
[04:47] <DarkLord> additional drivers doesnt show anything
[04:48] <aetaric_> DarkLord, you will need to install jockey for addition drivers
[04:48] <histo> DarkLord: you can lspci -k    and see which driver is being loaded for your Video device
[04:48] <histo> aetaric_: nope
[04:48] <[Relic]> Am I thinking properly for getting rid of old kernel versions;  remove them with whatever package manager then run apt-get clean to remove them from the disk?
[04:49] <daughain> dr_willis, Errr...What I mean is, I plug it in, and all the drive does is spin up. I cant tell if the computer is even detecting its exist\ence.
[04:49] <aetaric_> histo, jockey isn't installed by default anymore
[04:49] <nicolenicole> @histo press "e" when I get to the text menu for UEFI disk boot?
[04:49] <histo> aetaric_: 12.10 moved the additional drivers dialog to software sources there is a tab there.
[04:49] <aetaric_> well that's silly
[04:49] <aetaric_> there's nothing wrong with jockey
[04:49] <nicolenicole> at histo, press "e" when I get to the text menu after UEFI disc boot?
[04:49] <histo> nicolenicole: yes you select which boot option you are going to use with the up and down arrows and then press e to edit that line.
[04:49] <nicolenicole> whoah, sorry, chat got stuck
[04:50] <histo> aetaric_: jockey-text is still installed I believe
[04:50] <antonio_> dr_willis: this is what I get when I use lspci http://s98.beta.photobucket.com/user/con_movies/media/2013-02-24_18-42-12_32_zps9dffbc29.jpg.html
[04:50] <nicolenicole> ok then what?
[04:50] <intrader> dakotawulfy, GPU to 102C - I think that the measurement of fan is only the current not the flow. I don't feel airflow - just hot keyboard
[04:51] <nicolenicole> according to the forums, if it is a graphics issue, I need to use "nomodeset" then it will return the graphics after installing
[04:51] <histo> nicolenicole: add your nomodeset or whatever to the end of the line
[04:51] <nicolenicole> can you give me exactly what I need to type?
[04:51] <histo> nicolenicole: yeah nomodeset
[04:51] <nicolenicole> oh ok
[04:51] <dr_willis> !nomodeset
[04:51] <nicolenicole> just type that and hit enter?
[04:52] <histo> nicolenicole: at the end of the kernel line yes.
[04:52] <nicolenicole> ook
[04:52] <nicolenicole> logging out, thanks
[04:52] <histo> nicolenicole: inside the "'s if there are any
[04:52] <nicolenicole> *ok
[04:52] <dr_willis> normally i put  it as 'quiet splash nomodeset'
[04:52] <nicolenicole> so press "e" then type "nomodeset" and hit enter
[04:52] <dr_willis> or 'noquiet nosplash nomodeset verbose' that way i see all the boot messages
[04:52] <dr_willis> nicolenicole:  No... you EDIT a line..
[04:53] <intrader> dakotawulfy, is there a way to superinpose PSensor on the full screen runing the youTube?
[04:53] <nicolenicole> I'm not sure what that means
[04:53] <dr_willis> nicolenicole:  look for the line with 'quiet splash' put nomodeset btween them
[04:53] <nicolenicole> ok... I'll play with it, logging out, thanks
[04:54] <antonio_> dr_willis: any idea about this?
[04:55] <DarkLord> how do you bring up the console in ubuntu 12.10?
[04:56] <histo> DarkLord: ctrl+alt+F1-F6  or you can open a terminal? is that what you mean?
[04:56] <histo>  DarkLord ctrl+alt+F7 to get back to GUI
[04:56] <DarkLord> histo yes i meant terminal
[04:56] <histo> DarkLord: ctrl+alt+t
[04:56] <dr_willis> antonio_:  if the cards seen. it should be in that list.  I dont do enough wifi to know what cards are what.
[04:57] <histo> DarkLord: or you can type terminal in the dash and it will show you icons for gnome-terminal
[04:58] <DarkLord> histo this is what it gave me when i put that command into the terminal http://dpaste.com/991628/
[04:58] <dr_willis> antonio_:  i see no 'network' stuff there at all. but i could be overlooking it.
[04:58] <antonio_> I don't either
[04:58] <histo> antonio_: There is not network cards showing up in your lspci
[04:58] <antonio_> some crackhead sold my friend a laptop and told them wireless worked
[04:59] <dr_willis> i got a cheap wifi dongle  i plug into machines so i can then use the addational-0drivers tool to get drivers for the built in wifi - if needed
[04:59] <histo> antonio_: I would check dmesg after clearing it and bootign to see if it even sees a card
[04:59] <dr_willis> antonio_:  does the addational-drivers tool suggest anything?
[04:59] <histo> DarkLord: You are currently using the radeon driver
[05:00] <nicolenicole> omg thank you!  yes it worked like a charm, just hit "e" and entered "nomodeset" after "quiet splash" and hit F10 and went to start loading Ubuntu graphics, going to switch to Ubuntu Studio 12.10 to install, hope that goes ok now
[05:00] <histo> nicolenicole: good luck
[05:00] <DarkLord> yes is that the most recent one or something cause this only being able to see half of the side and top bar is really annoying
[05:00] <dr_willis> nicolenicole:  the install cd has the same option.. but in a differnt way. ;)
[05:01] <nicolenicole> they should be the same both being 12.10 yes?
[05:01] <histo> DarkLord: It's your resolution settings with your TV
[05:01] <histo> DarkLord: what does xrandr show you current resolution at?
[05:01] <antonio_> have you guys ever heard of a display computer not having internet connections?
[05:02] <histo> antonio_: yes.
[05:02] <DarkLord> but it was working fine in full 1080p earlier today on Win 7 Ult
[05:02] <histo> DarkLord: Okay and what does xrandr say?
[05:02] <histo> DarkLord: You may need to change your resolution or turn off overscaning with your tv
[05:02] <DarkLord> xrandr is that something i need to type in the terminal?
[05:02] <histo> DarkLord: yes
[05:03] <histo> nick_h: What should be the same?
[05:03] <dr_willis> turning off overscanning.. is  the best fix i find.
[05:04] <DarkLord> http://dpaste.com/991645/
[05:05] <histo> DarkLord: 1018mm x 573mm  Is this the size of your display?
[05:05] <DarkLord> no on my tv i have it set on the 1920 x 1080 (16:9)
[05:06] <histo> DarkLord: No the physical size. It's a 46" tv right?
[05:07] <DarkLord> yes its a 46 sony lcd
[05:08] <histo> DarkLord: try xrandr --dpi 48
[05:08] <CallingPanther> hello
[05:08] <mehdi_> my icons and top panel when i run Libreoffice writer goes blurry  how can i reset it to normal? ecept unity --reset?
[05:09] <DarkLord> they are still cut off
[05:09] <histo> DarkLord: did it accept the command? you may need to use sudo xrandr --dpi 48
[05:09] <histo> DarkLord: and did anything change
[05:09] <c4nuck> hey any of you guys manage your iphone 4s in linux ?
[05:10] <DarkLord> yes it acepted it no error or anything and i believe the left bar showed alittle more but not much but the top bar no change
[05:10] <histo> DarkLord: check xrandr and see if the dpi is being changed on the hdmi connection or the lvds
[05:11] <histo> DarkLord: if it's changing the lvds we need to xrandr -display HDMI-0 --dpi 48
[05:11] <histo> DarkLord: This would all be much easier to fix by just turning overscan off on your tv
[05:11] <DarkLord> i looked for overscan on my tv but didnt see an option for it
[05:12] <CallingPanther> Is there like a channel for IRC noobs or those that are re-learning IRC?
[05:13] <DarkLord> here is the new xrandr http://dpaste.com/991678/
[05:13] <djBuss> How can i select the version of the package for a apt-get install?
[05:14] <histo> DarkLord: and you said you tried the catalyst control center?
[05:15] <histo> djBuss: there aren't multiple versions in the repos
[05:15] <DarkLord> no i had it on my windows that was what i had to use to scale but i downloaded it again from amd.com the linux version and couldnt figure out how to install it
[05:15] <histo> DarkLord: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[05:15] <djBuss> histo, yes there are. I need to install PEAR for php 5.3
[05:16] <djBuss> but i'm running ubuntu QQ
[05:16] <djBuss> it defaults for PHp5.4 and PEAR for PHP5.4 as well
[05:17] <histo> !find pear
[05:17] <djBuss> !find php-pear
[05:17] <djBuss> !find php-pear 5.3
[05:17] <histo> djBuss: What makes you think there are multiple versions in the repos?
[05:18] <histo> !info php-pear | djBuss
[05:18] <histo> djBuss: Notice the version that's the version you will get if you install php-pear in quantal
[05:18] <histo> djBuss: The only other option is to install pear and php yourself either from ppa or sources
[05:18] <djBuss> oh ok
[05:19] <djBuss> but I could install one package
[05:19] <djBuss> by selecting it version, let me just remember what was it
[05:20] <histo> djBuss: I'm sure there are some but they would have #'s after their name like php5 vs. phpx
[05:20] <djBuss> i believe it was php-gd
[05:21] <dup> !viewnior
[05:21] <histo> djBuss: it doesn't appear that php-pear has been packaged in multiple versions but i'm not on ubuntu to check atm.
[05:21] <djBuss> histo, how could I check the list of version for php5-gd for instance?
[05:22] <histo> djBuss: apt-cache search php5-gd   in terminal or search the software center for php5-gd packages
[05:26] <djBuss> histo, thank you i'll try to find a different repository then...
[05:26] <histo> !ppa | djBuss
[05:27] <histo> djBuss: Is there a reason you want to use an older version btw?
[05:31] <nonan> !apt
[05:35] <singh_abhinav> i have messed up my dpkg, i was installing 'php-java-bridge-j2ee' and something got broke,  now when ever i'm installing new software (using sudo apt-get install)  it is complaining 'E: The package php-java-bridge-j2ee needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.'   how should I fix my dpkg now (i want to get rid from php-java-bridge-j2ee)
[05:35] <Aesthetic> so...im running 12.10.   had to reinstall unity/lightdm/compiz in order to clean out some problems i had.   now i cant get GUI during boot.  i can manually start it by doing startx or service lightdm restart in another tty
[05:35] <Aesthetic> how do i make this default?
[05:36] <DarkLord> how do i navigate in the terminal to a folder on my home screen
[05:36] <dr_willis> DarkLord:  cd /path/to/dir    which may be /home/yourusername/Desktop/foldername    in your case
[05:36] <dr_willis> DarkLord:  now would be a good time to read a bash tutrial or 2
[05:36] <histo> singh_abhinav: sudo apt-get purge php-java-bridge-j2ee
[05:37] <dr_willis> and Case IS imporntant DarkLord
[05:37] <Aesthetic> actually service lightdm start only brings me back to my kernel boot screen.    only startx and service gdm start work
[05:37] <Aesthetic> and its the old style login, not the new one
[05:37] <dr_willis> you can set up gdm to launch at boot via 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm'
[05:37] <dr_willis> or select lightdm perhaps.
[05:37] <DarkLord> dr_willis bash? im guessing that is something that will help me out alot, got a link for a good tutorial cause i def. need all the help i can get
[05:37] <dr_willis> its hard for us to know what has happened to your syustem
[05:38] <dr_willis> !bash
[05:38] <dr_willis> theres 100000s of guides and sites on bash
[05:38] <dr_willis> i always check delicious.com to see which ones have been tagged the most.
[05:38] <histo> DarkLord: you can also type man into    in a terminal to get a brief introduction
[05:39] <dr_willis> man intro  ?
[05:39] <Aesthetic> dr_willis: i think thats my problem....only startx works, and that brings me into directly into desktop
[05:39] <DarkLord> ok thanks everyone for the help
[05:39] <Aesthetic> while service gdm start gives me old-style login
[05:39] <Aesthetic> but lightm wont start and give me modern login
[05:40] <dr_willis> no idea how you would manage to break lightdm.
[05:40] <dr_willis> i use gdm normally. i find it easier to use
[05:40] <histo> DarkLord: I hardly use the GUI anymore though...
[05:40] <histo> Aesthetic: Does it error if you try and start lightdm?
[05:41] <Aesthetic> yeah...."rejected send message, 1 matched rules; type="method_call".......
[05:43] <adas> this room is always packed!
[05:43] <Aesthetic> actually...after i fully shutdown lightdm.....  starting it just takes me to kernel boot screen (where you see all the things listed thats loading)
[05:44] <g_dmin> hello
[05:44] <Deezo> hi
[05:45] <Deezo> sudo rm -rf /
[05:45] <benjaminess> Hello can some please tell me if this dell server can run a version of ubuntu? http://www.dell.com/downloads/global/products/pedge/en/840_specs.pdf I tried a live cd and live usb no luck
[05:46] <g_dmin> where are you from?
[05:46] <Deezo> my laptop wouldnt boot into linux without both a live cd and usb, perhaps try that/
[05:47] <CallingPanther> xchat question.... any takers.
[05:47] <serp_> ??
[05:47] <serp_> benjaminess: what error are you getting?
[05:48] <histo> !ask | CallingPanther
[05:48] <benjaminess> It will just hang at the loading screen and get stuck
[05:48] <Aesthetic> so yeah...after reinstalling lightdm/compiz/unity.....ubuntu just hangs at kernel boot screen (the list of [ OK ] "   i can go into another tty and do startx, but cant get this doing it by default
[05:48] <histo> benjaminess: What video card is in the machine?
[05:48] <benjaminess> I'm thinking the bios is out of date
[05:48] <benjaminess> Embedded ATI ES1000 with 16MB memory
[05:49] <benjaminess> maybe its the video card
[05:50] <madsailor> CallingPanther, xchat has support in the #xchat channel
[05:50] <histo> benjaminess: try booting with the nomodeset option
[05:50] <histo> !nomodeset | benjaminess
[05:50] <Aesthetic> dmesg says lightdm  main process terminated with status 1
[05:50] <CallingPanther> well my issue is xchat/ubuntu related
[05:51] <c4nuck> hey any of you guys manage your iphone 4s in linux ?
[05:52] <CallingPanther> I am using Ubuntu 12.04 and when I start xchat there is no icon on my side bar
[05:52] <Deezo> no, i boot into an OS X partition to manage my ipod touch
[05:52] <benjaminess> Awesome Thank you, I'll give it a try
[05:52] <rekha> hey, i have an acer aspire one that hasn't a screen, and i want to boot it from usb... thoughts? i'm not sure what the boot order is, but i'm pretty sure f12 is boot from device
[05:53] <Deezo> rekha: might as well give it a try, sounds like fun
[05:53] <rekha> deezo right, but what do you think? just methodically press down once, twice, three times, etc?
[05:53] <Deezo> try a brief google search on which button, if all else fails then just hold it down?
[05:54] <histo> rekha: yes F12 is boot menu. on revo I have one
[05:54] <rekha> no it seems to stop there, the question is getting it to boot from usb
[05:55] <histo> rekha: Not sure which choice is USB on that menu though. Probably press down once and then enter. Why do you not have a monitor or a tv?
[05:55] <rekha> because i don't?
[05:55] <rekha> if i did this would be simpler :P
[05:55] <histo> rekha: You can hook the revo up to a television with hdmi cable
[05:56] <histo> You dont' own a TV?
[05:56] <histo> rekha: What computer are you talkign to us on now?
[05:56] <CallingPanther> rekha: are you using it as a server?
[05:57] <rekha> one of several laptops, however, all the options seem to be booting the hdd. and for now, yes, i have a usb stick preconfigured to load x11vnc so i can conect
[05:57] <rekha> and no, no tv
[05:57] <CallingPanther> ahh
[05:57] <alienaut> hey is there a alternative to linked app on ubuntu https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/dash-docs-snippets/id458034879?mt=12
[05:57] <alienaut> its called dash
[05:57] <CallingPanther>  let me get my netbook
[05:58] <rekha> it's an aspire one d255, so i'm not sure if it uses th mouse for bios but it doesn't seem that new
[05:59] <histo> rekha: do you have a keyboard plugged into it?
[05:59] <rekha> histo: it's a netbook, so it has one already
[05:59] <rekha> the screen is cracked pretty brutally, so i get next to no response out of it. i get dark, and slightly-less-dark but that's it
[05:59] <histo> rekha: Oh not a revo gotcha... I'm thinking of the little nettop systems
[06:00] <histo> rekha: A flashlight will help possibly to show the screen if not hook up an external monitor or TV.
[06:00] <rekha> yeah, but essentially the same thing at this point, but i'm hoping to set it up via vnc so i can use it for playing music/radioshows via keyboard just by booting it
[06:00] <histo> rekha: None of this has anythign to do with ubuntu though it's more of a #hardware question.
[06:00] <rekha> histo: yeah, monitor is on the list, don't own a tv...
[06:01] <rekha> that is true
[06:01] <histo> rekha: You could just make a cli box no need for monitor and ssh in etc.. to control apps. I have a nettop like that as my server.
[06:01] <rekha> yeah, that's the plan, but the question is booting the usb drive still, once i get that i'm good to go
[06:01] <histo> rekha: I would just borrow a monitor to get it installed and then run it headless. Disable any halt on errors in the bios also.
[06:02] <rekha> that's the plan, however, fairly unique situation so i'm not going to be able to do that in the overly near future
[06:02] <histo> rekha: http://www.instructables.com/id/Install-Windows7-on-to-a-Acer-Netbook-from-a-USB-F/step7/Acer-Netbook-BIOS-boot-order/ this may help
[06:03] <CallingPanther> sorry mine is ZG5
[06:03] <rekha> oh so it should just be the top one, cool
[06:03] <histo> rekha: it has bios setting keys etc... and pictures you maybe able to navigate through it following these instructions
[06:03] <dup> How do I select a gtk theme and icon theme without a gui? Where is the configuration file?
[06:04] <dward> Hi everyone, I'm (semi-)new curious about something
[06:05] <dward> Not very technical at all but I was wondering. Is there an ubuntu equibalent to screenfetch for gentoo or archery for arch?
[06:06] <histo> dup: gconf probably in xml files in your ~ there are console based editors I can't think of them right now.
[06:06] <dup> histo: Thanks, I'll take a look.
[06:06] <histo> dward: You want it to be cli based or are you using a gui?
[06:07] <histo> dward: there is scrot or you can hit the print screen button on a default install
[06:07] <dward> cli would be better i guess
[06:07] <dward> i was just wondering if anything existed
[06:07] <dward> along those lines
[06:08] <histo> dward: yes there are plenty apt-cache search screenshot  would show some suggestions
[06:08] <histo> dward: or search the software center for screenshot
[06:08] <dward> no that's not what screenfetch does
[06:08] <dward> or archery
[06:08] <dup> scrot is in the repos.
[06:08] <histo> dward: okay what does it do?
[06:09] <dward> purely asthetic, let me find some screenshots
[06:09] <histo> dward: do you mean archey? like the little info script
[06:09] <Aesthetic> hrmm
[06:09] <histo> dward: that comes up when you open a terminal or ona login shell?
[06:09] <madsailor> dward : http://www.linuxandlife.com/2012/02/how-to-install-screenfetch-and-archey.html
[06:09] <Aesthetic> i checked /var/log/boot.log   and see that lightdm starts, but then it says stopping gnome display manager
[06:09] <dup> Oh, screenFetch. That script works on Ubuntu.
[06:09] <dup> Download it from the git page.
[06:09] <dup> And it'll run.
[06:10] <dup> Archey works on Ubuntu, too, I think.
[06:10] <dward> oh ya looking it up
[06:10] <Aesthetic> maybe cus i removed my .gnome and .gnome2 dirs?
[06:10] <Aesthetic> so cleanout old settings
[06:10] <histo> dward: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1561984
[06:10] <dward> I see that it works on many distrobutions
[06:10] <histo> dward: yeah it's just a script tha tpulls info from various sources and displays it.
[06:10] <dward> thanks for the info
[06:11] <histo> Aesthetic: Do you have lightdm selected as the default instead of gdm?
[06:11] <dward> i wanted to use the cool ascii ubuntu symbol for my wm background
[06:11] <dup> What wm are you using?
[06:12] <dup> Just out of curiosity.
[06:12] <dward> now i can just swap in my gentoo config, i've been using awesome for about six months
[06:12] <histo> dward: there are other tools to turn pictures into ascii also
[06:12] <Aesthetic> histo: yep
[06:13] <dward> switched over from xmonad, i much perfer lua.
[06:13] <dward> over haskell
[06:13] <histo> Aesthetic: You can remove those directories and still boot. Lightdm doesn't need them.
[06:13] <Aesthetic> like i said...if i bounce to anotheer tty and type "startx" im good
[06:13] <histo> ughh lua
[06:13] <histo> Aesthetic: yeah but startx just starts your desktop right?
[06:13] <Aesthetic> yup
[06:13] <dward> histo: better then haskell imo. I feel like i'm god writting commandments when i program in haskell
[06:14] <Aesthetic> no menys tho
[06:14] <Aesthetic> *menus
[06:14] <histo> Aesthetic: Yeah it's not starting lightdm. You need to figure out why the lightdm service is failing to load
[06:14] <histo> Aesthetic: sudo status lightdm
[06:14] <histo> Aesthetic: and sudo start lightdm
[06:14] <Aesthetic> says stop/waiting
[06:14] <Aesthetic> when i do status
[06:14] <histo> Aesthetic: Okay start it
[06:15] <histo> Aesthetic: How did this all start btw?
[06:15] <Aesthetic> yeah...when i try that...it bounces me to the regular gui tty....
[06:15] <Aesthetic> which is at the kernel boot screen
[06:15] <a4gg4ga> Can I get some help with ubuntu, I think I have an easy problem
[06:15] <Aesthetic> showing "checking battery state..."
[06:15] <histo> Aesthetic: and it just sits there it never starts lightdm?
[06:15] <Aesthetic> and underneaath that a shell script for a server app ive been using for years
[06:15] <dward> a4gg4ga, ask away
[06:15] <Aesthetic> histo: correct
[06:15] <histo> Aesthetic: sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm
[06:16] <Aesthetic> histo: ok....same thing it lets me just pick default display manager
[06:16] <a4gg4ga> I'm trying to install ubuntu from a USB. The OS i'm using right now is Ubuntu. Just want a fresh reinstall where ubuntu deletes this current OS and makes a new Ubuntu
[06:16] <histo> Aesthetic: yeah pick lightdm and restart
[06:16] <Aesthetic> yup...many times
[06:16] <Aesthetic> have even tried purge...and install
[06:17] <a4gg4ga> But in start up disk creator and with the proper iso i'm getting An uncaught exception was raised:
[06:17] <a4gg4ga> [Errno 30] Read-only file system: '/media/PENDRIVE/.disk/base_installable'
[06:17] <Aesthetic> again...this is after i decided to purge/remove lightdm compiz unity, and reinstall them
[06:17] <histo> a4gg4ga: can you pastebin the output of mount
[06:17] <a4gg4ga> This is the same USB i used to install ubuntu before btw
[06:17] <histo> Aesthetic: is ubuntu-desktop installed?
[06:17] <histo> Aesthetic: also are you still trying to use unity?
[06:18] <histo> a4gg4ga: open a terminal and type mount | pastebinit
[06:18] <histo> a4gg4ga: or just copy and paste the output of mount to paste.ubuntu.com
[06:19] <a4gg4ga> I can't tell what key makes the tall line in the command you typed
[06:19] <dward> histo: does ubuntu desktop ship with pastebinit automatically?
[06:19] <a4gg4ga> oh right, sorry it's late lol
[06:19] <roach> any minecraft fans?
[06:19] <a4gg4ga> The program 'pastebinit' can be found in the following packages:
[06:19] <ANub> dward: No, it does not
[06:19] <a4gg4ga>  * pastebinit
[06:19] <a4gg4ga>  * pastebinit
[06:19] <a4gg4ga> now what
[06:19] <FloodBot1> a4gg4ga: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:19] <roach> the launcher i grabbed from their site isn't really working
[06:20] <a4gg4ga> Darn
[06:20] <roach> i can launch minecraft, but once i click log in the window goes black
[06:20] <a4gg4ga> Am I unmuted
[06:20] <dr_willis> roach:  i would start by launching it from the command line and seeing if it works.
[06:21] <dward> roach: haven't tried that launcher, i usually use a vm or my windows boot.
[06:21] <dward> roach, what are the errors?
[06:21] <roach> dr_jesus... will look into that
[06:21] <dward> roach, any?
[06:21] <nearst> a4gg4ga, try with java -jar <minecraft.jar>
[06:21] <roach> dward, i don't see any errors
[06:21] <dward> roach, are you using the latest launcher>
[06:22] <Aesthetic> histo: my net went down...did you say anything?
[06:22] <dward> rocah, i'm under the imperession that it was released relatively recently
[06:22] <roach> http://i.imgur.com/FdnNrMF.png
[06:22] <a4gg4ga> I guess i'll just try to install from a CD instead, thats really weird because I have the proper ISO and program to put it onto the USB that installed it before
[06:23] <dward> roach, do you get anything at all?
[06:23] <dward> roach the lauch screen to show up?
[06:23] <roach> yes, the launch screen does show up
[06:23] <roach> i can type in my username and password
[06:23] <roach> this happens when i click login
[06:24] <roach> " try launching it with java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame"
[06:26] <dr_willis> so.. did you try it?
[06:26] <roach> yes, same thing happened :(
[06:27] <roach> http://pastebin.com/fZnEFJuy
[06:27] <dward> are you using the opensource jre or oracle
[06:27] <dward> @roach
[06:27] <roach> oracle
[06:28] <roach> @dward
[06:30] <Aesthetic> histo?
[06:31] <CallingPanther> am I still here?
[06:31] <CallingPanther> Guess so
[06:33] <Aesthetic> my net went down so i may have missed any last thing you said
[06:33] <Folorn> does anyone know a good tool to download for unzipping bzip files please and where to find it?
[06:34] <Ben64> Folorn: bzip2
[06:35] <CallingPanther> what is the cli xchat package name?
[06:35] <Folorn> should be just xchat
[06:35] <Folorn> atleast for debian distros
[06:35] <serp_> roach: are you on 64 bit ubuntu?
[06:36] <Folorn> apt-get install xchat if thats what your asking :)
[06:36] <Ben64> uh... pretty sure the x in xchat is for X, so there is no cli version
[06:36] <CallingPanther> or is there a better cli IRC client that will work on say ubuntu 8.04
[06:36] <mgolisch> irssi?
[06:36] <serp_> CallingPanther: try weechat
[06:36] <CallingPanther> is it easy to use?
[06:37] <serp_> yes pretty easy
[06:37] <serp_> the major difference is that your mouse doesnt work
[06:37] <dward> roach, are you still there? sorry, i'm studying a little. try to set your LD_LIBRARY_PATH
[06:37] <serp_> switch channels with alt+numbet
[06:38] <CallingPanther> my laptop running 8.04 server has no mouse anyway
[06:38] <CallingPanther> unfortunately nothing higher will work on it
[06:39] <vnc786> i want remove gnome because i am trying xfce how do i remove completely gnome ?
[06:39] <Aesthetic> ugh....lightdm just wont start
[06:39] <Aesthetic> wtf
[06:39] <ttoti> Is there anyway to hide the  unity bar when window is maximized?
[06:40] <dr_willis> irssi or weechat are the top text/console irc clients id say.
[06:40] <elky> ttoti, the side panel with the launchers?
[06:40] <CallingPanther> ttoti: that is an excellent question
[06:40] <dr_willis> ttoti:  it auto hides for me allready..
[06:40] <dr_willis> oh wait.. im thinking fullscreened
[06:40] <dr_willis> ;)
[06:40] <dr_willis> not quite the same.
[06:40] <dward> roach, then  extract this LJGL to $HOME/.minecraft in a certain order
[06:41] <ttoti> Yeah the side panel. It doesnt autohide for me
[06:41] <ax562> irssi rocks
[06:41] <dward> roach, if you are still there and want me to tell you the order to setup those jars, respond
[06:41] <Folorn> um whats the command to un-tar/unzip a file again i always forget its like tar -xcf something?
[06:41] <dr_willis> it should autohide for Fullscreened games and so forth.. maxamized. no it shouldent
[06:41] <dr_willis> there is an auto-hide all the time option
[06:41] <dr_willis> !info unp
[06:41] <dr_willis> Folorn:  i tend to use 'unp'
[06:41] <dward> roach, happy to but i don't want to waste the effort typing if you left
[06:41] <elky> ttoti, if you type appearance in the unity dash search, you'll get the Appearances thing, click that and there's a tab (which isn't obvious) that says behaviour. it's in there.
[06:42] <ax562> @dr_w do you know if Im having trouble with my dvd drive during install and I get kicked to shell, can I mount ext-dvd drive and load install from there using shell?
[06:42] <Folorn> dr_willis wont let me says something about being uncompatable
[06:43] <ttoti> Oh sweet. Thanks elky. Got it :)
[06:44] <Folorn> nope didn't work
[06:44] <Folorn> any other ideas ?
[06:44] <Folorn> god bzip files suck :) oof
[06:45] <CallingPanther> how do you install irissi in terminal
[06:45] <Folorn> any other ideas for the command then would really help .....or links for untaring/ungziping
[06:45] <CallingPanther> tried apt-get install irissi said unable to locate
[06:46] <Folorn> oof.. so close
[06:46] <Folorn> no other ideas ?
[06:47] <dr_willis> you use bunzip for bzip archives
[06:47] <CallingPanther> never mind mispelled it
[06:47] <dr_willis> !archive
[06:48] <Folorn> oof
[06:50] <adas> had an install problem and was wondering if someone could help?
[06:50] <dr_willis> #bunzip2 filename.txt.bz2 (where filename.txt.bz2 is the name of the file you wish to uncompress)
[06:50] <Folorn> nm :)
[06:50] <adas> had an install problem and was wondering if someone could help?
[06:51] <Folorn> no doc had to un tar/gz it first but then you run that afterwords to bzip right ?
[06:51] <elky> adas, state what the problem is, we don't know if we can help until you tell us.
[06:52] <CallingPanther> ok so now on irssi
[06:53] <CallingPanther> how do you switch between channels again?
[06:53] <adas> my dvd drive isn't working so well and is having trouble reading the 12.04 cd
[06:54] <adas> it loads for a minute then goes into sector read erro but kicks me to shell
[06:54] <leptone> adas, you could try making a bootable usb drive
[06:54] <elky> Folorn, any reason why 'tar -xvfj' (iirc) isn't enough?
[06:54] <adas> bios does not support
[06:54] <adas> has to be disk drive
[06:55] <elky> adas, is this when running the install cd?
[06:55] <adas> my question is, if its possible to mount external dvd drive from shell that ubuntu install kicks me to and load install from external
[06:55] <adas> yes
[06:56] <elky> adas, and the cd was made on the slowest possible write speed setting?
[06:56] <Folorn> ive got it now
[06:56] <Folorn> but how ya install it lol
[06:56] <adas> so basically it boots up from internal disk drive (12.04 install cd) and just clunkers its way through a couple different screens, then read errors out to shell
[06:56] <Folorn> after its been un tared
[06:56] <elky> Folorn, tar?
[06:57] <elky> oh, what are you untarring?
[06:57] <Folorn> yes
[06:57] <Folorn> its un tared just dunno how to install after its been unarchived
[06:57] <vnc786> how do I remove completely gnome in ubuntu 12.04 64 bit ?
[06:57] <elky> i missed the first part of your query earlier. i don't know what archive you just extracted
[06:57] <Folorn> and its now a just a reg folder.. normally ive got a debian/package installer i just right click with elky
[06:57] <elky> "it" ?
[06:57] <adas> @elky i believed i used auto speed detect but not sure if I can change write speed
[06:58] <adas> using linux k3b and some other burner app
[06:59] <elky> adas, it won't go super slow unless you tell it to, nobody writing their music to cd wants to wait, and it doesn't matter for music files, but it does for linux isos
[06:59] <elky> i can't say i've burned a cd in the past 3 years either i'm afraid, so i haven't a clue what to suggest
[07:00] <elky> my latest laptop doesn't even have an optical drive :D
[07:00] <adas> i guess I can try..but I KNOW MY DRIVE DOESN'T WORK PROPERLY...so looking for work around
[07:01] <adas> so my real question is can I mount external and load from there once ubuntu errors out to sheLl?
[07:02] <elky> adas, that depends entirely on how much it got through.
[07:02] <elky> if it got as far as a full dash shell, probably. if it's a busybox shell, probably not.
[07:03] <elky> adas, you could take the hdd out and connect it in or to another machine , install, then put the hdd back in the machine that lacks usb boot in bios
[07:04] <___leaf___> Hello, on 12.04. I'm using rkhunter. When I check rkhunter.log, it's empty even though I ran rkhunter recently, any suggestions please as to why this is happening?
[07:04] <adas> yeah, thats a lot of work, and I would have to buy hardware
[07:05] <adas> if im going that route id rather buy a new dvd drive
[07:05] <adas> was wondering if anyone had some skills with the shell in install instances
[07:05] <Aesthetic> ugh...at least gdm works
[07:05] <Aesthetic> wtf could have broken lightdm so much?
[07:07] <adas> maybe not?
[07:11] <adas> thanks for the help
[07:11] <adas> 1
[07:11] <brianblaze> good evening beautiful people!
[07:13] <DaDaDosPrompts> Has anyone had any troubles with libvdpau when watching YouTube on Firefox in 12.04 lately?
[07:13] <DaDaDosPrompts> Mine complains about the .so file for that library every time I open a YouTube page, dumping its complaint onto the STDOUT of a terminal I have open elsewhere (Firefox isn't being called from that terminal)
[07:18] <dward> Aesthetic: when you use startx to start lightdm are you using sudo or regular
[07:18] <dward> Aesthetic: after boot, not that that is the issue. but what user are you using startx with
[07:19] <imran2> i need help with the scrolling issue
[07:20] <DaDaDosPrompts> welp, I figured out at least part of the problem
[07:20] <DaDaDosPrompts> my instance of firefox had been created by a `fossil ui` call to an open fossil repo
[07:21] <DaDaDosPrompts> which is why it was appearing on the STDOUT or STDERR of my terminal
[07:21] <DaDaDosPrompts> hm
[07:22] <imran2> can any one help me fix the system wide scrolling issue , using the mouse wheel scroll?? button
[07:23] <dward> imran2: is it a new issue? sounds like a problem with your driver
[07:23] <dward> imran2, what type of mouse is it
[07:23] <imran2> canyon USB based
[07:24] <imran2> it scrolls
[07:24] <imran2> but not like how i would do in windows?
[07:25] <dward> imran2, what do you mean
[07:25] <imran2> i cannot configure the no of lines i can scroll
[07:27] <dward> imran2, not sure if that is implemented with ubuntu standard configs
[07:27] <dward> imran2  it is probably dependent on the driver
[07:28] <imran2> no it is not possible
[07:28] <imran2> to use the genome based s
[07:28] <imran2> ubuntu provided mouse applet
[07:30] <imran2> the problem is that it causing me pain in my Carpal tunnel syndrome
[07:30] <imran2> such a problem is not found in Windows
[07:30] <imran2> or when i use windows
[07:31] <oldude67> how do i change from normal gdm in ubuntu to lubuntus lightdm?
[07:32] <dward> oldude67, the normal display manager for ubuntu is lightdm
[07:33] <oldude67> dward, then how do i kill the log on noise? when it boots? its loud/
[07:35] <dward> oldude67, you can use ubuntu-tweak
[07:36] <dward> oldude67, http://ubuntu-tweak.com/downloads/
[07:36] <dward> it's a tweak tool for unity
[07:36] <oldude67> dward, ill look into it. just thought there was away to kill the log on sound. just forgot the speakers were on and its late here...pives me off sometimes.
[07:36] <dward> it has a gui with the option to turn off the login sound
[07:38] <oldude67> and unity is like windows 8 wont ever use it.
[07:39] <oldude67> if it wasnt for not putting /home on a seperate partition, id just redo the whole dang thing.
[07:39] <dward> oldude67 okay i have a solution for you then
[07:40] <oldude67> dward, hold on im reading about the tweaks thanks for the info.
[07:40] <dward> oldude67 you gotta find the greeter config file
[07:41] <dward> oldude67 mine is here /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/com.canonical.unity-greeter.gschema.xml
[07:41] <dward> but you can find it with 'locate unity-greeter | grep xml'
[07:41] <oldude67> dward, ok, give me a sec. lets see what it has to say.
[07:42] <dward> oldude67 near the end is the config for the sound
[07:42] <dward> oldude67 just change true to false
[07:42] <oldude67> dward, thanks im about half way there...lol. old and tired.
[07:42] <dward> oldude67 not super friendly but no need to get ubuntu-tweak
[07:43] <oldude67> dward, k thanks, looking at both right now.
[07:45] <dward> no problem. I like to keep my system clean too, so i avoid those extras if i can. ubuntu is all about making things eaiser though so....
[07:45] <dward> easier usually means gui
[07:47] <toiletofwisdom> hi all
[07:47] <J2cloud> i am too unregged
[07:48] <J2cloud> redded
[07:48] <J2cloud> ...you know what
[07:48] <dup> wat
[07:49] <J2cloud> Hello everyone
[07:49] <J2cloud> Is anyonne awake?
[07:49] <toiletofwisdom> Nah
[07:49] <dward> everyone died
[07:49] <dup> Only slightly.
[07:49] <J2cloud> Well darn
[07:50] <J2cloud> Well, anyone around, I have an overscan issue on Ubuntu 12.10
[07:50] <dup> overscan?
[07:50] <J2cloud> And I'm not sure how to fix it. I can't see the edges of  my screen connected via HDMI
[07:51] <helmut_> hi
[07:52] <dup> Hi.
[07:52] <dward> @j2cloud is your resolution set to the correct mode
[07:52] <J2cloud> yes. 1920x1080
[07:53] <J2cloud> Normally that would be an option in a graphics card control panel, but that's not in Ubuntu, and It won't let me use the Catalyst Control (Graphics card control panel) because it doesn't think i have an AMD driver installed
[07:53] <J2cloud> But it is an AMD card
[07:55] <dup> !catalyst
[07:55] <dward> j2clouad, are you pretty familiar with linux yet may i ask?
[07:55] <dr_willis> ive seen that setting in the amd drivers on ubuntu.. but i found it easier to just turn off overscan on the tv/monitor
[07:55] <dward> j2cloud, might be hacky, but you could def fix it with xrandr
[07:56] <J2cloud> dr_willis: my monitor is actually a TV, and I have never been able to figure out why the computer controls are disabled
[07:56] <J2cloud> dward: I would say i'm still very amateur
[07:56] <dr_willis> my tv - had settings in ITS menus to disable overscan. but its a fairly high end samsung
[07:57] <dr_willis> i was having to use the ati contol panel thing to tweak the res befor id found that setting
[07:57] <dr_willis> now i dont need the ati config..
[07:57] <J2cloud> There's the thing
[07:57] <dr_willis> helps on other pcs' and os's ive been using also with this tv
[07:57] <J2cloud> i can't even use the ati config
[07:58] <J2cloud> It won;t let me run it because it says no card found or something
[07:58] <dward> j2cloud do you have the fglrx-amdcccle package?
[07:59] <J2cloud> Catalyst Control Center?
[07:59] <J2cloud> I believe that's what the package was called
[07:59] <J2cloud> Yes, but when i run it, i get this
[07:59] <J2cloud> There was a problem initializing Catalyst Control Center Linux edition.  It could be caused by the following.
[07:59] <J2cloud> No AMD graphics driver is installed, or the AMD driver is not functioning properly.
[07:59] <J2cloud> Please install the AMD driver appropriate for you AMD hardware, or configure using aticonfig.
[08:00] <J2cloud> And when i do *that*, i get another error
[08:02] <J2cloud> "One or more tools required for installation cannot be found on the sustem."
[08:02] <dward> do you know what driver you are using?
[08:02] <dward> @j2cloud
[08:03] <J2cloud> "Gallium 0.4 on AMD ARUBA "
[08:03] <dward> what is currently being used
[08:03] <J2cloud> ^^
[08:03] <dward> you have a desktop display running?
[08:03] <J2cloud> Yes
[08:03] <J2cloud> via HDMI
[08:04] <J2cloud> This is a laptop, if that helps
[08:04] <dward> run 'sudo lspci'
[08:04] <J2cloud> the card in it is an AMD Radeon 7520G
[08:04] <dward> find your video card in that list
[08:04] <J2cloud> i ran lspci | grep VGA
[08:04] <J2cloud> Gallium 0.4 on AMD ARUBA
[08:04] <J2cloud> oh
[08:04] <J2cloud> sorry
[08:04]  * J2cloud Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Trinity [Radeon HD 7520G]
[08:04] <FloodBot1> J2cloud: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:05] <J2cloud> Whoops. my bad.
[08:05] <dward> j2cloud first colum of that line is the slot number
[08:06] <dward> j2cloud first colum of that line is the slot number
[08:06] <J2cloud> 00:01.0?
[08:06] <dward> run 'sudo lspci -v -s 00:01.0' and it should say the kernel driver
[08:07] <dward> what is the kernel driver in use and kernel module
[08:07] <J2cloud> kernel driver is radeon
[08:08] <J2cloud> i don't see anything that says kernel module
[08:09] <dward> hmm it is probably the same, to make sure run 'sudo lsmod | grep radeon'
[08:10] <J2cloud> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5564111/
[08:12] <usuario__> xD
[08:12] <usuario__> xD
[08:12] <usuario__> xD
[08:12] <FloodBot1> usuario__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:12] <gipzo> Hi. I have Ubuntu server installed on USB flash-drive and I'm inserting it on different, but identical motherboards. And I have problem with network cards: first - sometimes it change network interface name (from eth0 to eth1, for example). And second - on some motherboards it doesn't detect network interface at all
[08:12] <dward> j2cloud: i would try to reinstall the proprietary driver from the radeon website and see if that helps
[08:12] <gipzo> I tried to remove all lines in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules, but it doesn't help at all
[08:13] <gipzo> On ifconfig -a i have lo and eth0 interface, which have mac address with FF:FF:FF:FF:FF:FF
[08:13] <gipzo> but lspci detects gigabit ethernet card
[08:14] <___leaf___> Hello, I'm trying to set logrotate to keep the last 4 copies of rkhunter log files. ie. rkhunter.log.1...rkhunter.log.2. Any help with this please?
[08:15] <tarzeau> how can i remove/delete my launchpad account?
[08:18] <dward> gipzo, is this booting from the live cd kernel or after installation
[08:18] <gipzo> No, it's system on a flash drive, not live cd
[08:19] <dward> tarzeau, you should probably check the launchpad website...
[08:19] <gipzo> I use http://people.ofset.org/~ckhung/p/mk-boot-usb/ for making flashes
[08:20] <tarzeau> dward: i did, and i couldn't find it
[08:20] <dward> gipzo, but you are booting off of the usb kernel correct? you haven't installed ubuntu yet?
[08:20] <gipzo> dward: I installed ubuntu on HDD, then I made bootable flash and copied everything to usb
[08:20] <dward> tarzeau: https://help.launchpad.net/YourAccount/Closing
[08:20] <dward> google is your friend
[08:20] <gipzo> dward: And everything working fine, except network interfaces
[08:20] <tarzeau> dward: ok found it, thanks
[08:21] <neirpyc> Anyone else in here using Hexchat?
[08:21] <J2cloud> neirpyc: I use it.
[08:22] <dward> gipzo, the kernel loaded from the installation iso's is a bit different than the kernel that is isntalled, different drivers, different packages, etc..
[08:22] <dward> gipzo: the auto detect can be a bit wonky
[08:22] <J2cloud> dward, trying to reinstall the drivers gives the error "One or more tools required for installation cannot be found on the system."
[08:22] <neirpyc> J2cloud, You wouldn't happen to know how to make it open channels after /nickserv ident would you?
[08:23] <J2cloud> like, on startup?
[08:23] <gipzo> dward: I have same hardware... and kernel is normal ubuntu 11.10 kernel
[08:23] <dward> gipzo: is it causing a problem? see if it persists after installing the kernel
[08:23] <J2cloud> Or specifically after that command?
[08:23] <gipzo> dward: But I'm not changing kernel
[08:23] <neirpyc> J2cloud, Yeah, I have it auto join a few rooms on connect, but one of the rooms never joins because it says I'm not identified yet. I have it set up to identify on join, though.
[08:23] <dward> j2cloud, he is asking about irc chat commands
[08:24] <dward> j2cloud, not your driver
[08:24] <J2cloud> i know
[08:24] <gipzo> dward: I think the problem is in network drivers, but how could i find out which drivers i want?
[08:24] <leptone_> i cant get FoxVox to work. when i select text and "speak selected text" there is no sound. anyone know whats going on?
[08:24] <neirpyc> Ah, I didn't know you were in the middle of something! Please, ignore me for now. I'll fiddle with it a bit more. =)
[08:24] <gipzo> need*
[08:25] <dward> gipzo, yes, it's hard to diagnose this before an install though. the kernel is booted differently when it is booted differently when installed
[08:25] <dward> gipzo, is your first box installed and one the rest installed?
[08:26] <dward> gipzo, compat-drivers is the standard for drivers in the linux kernel
[08:27] <gipzo> dward: I have same motherboards and same cpu's (http://www.msi.com/product/mb/H61I-E35--B3-.html)
[08:27] <dward> gipzo they are usually auto detected
[08:27] <dward> gipzo yes but is ubuntu installed on one system, on both, or on neither?
[08:28] <dward> gipzo, sorry about the typo a couple lines up
[08:29] <leptone_> does anyone know the text-to-speech add-on "FoxVox" for Firefox?
[08:30] <dup> I've not heard of it.
[08:32] <gipzo> I have 5 pc's with same hardware, I installed attached HDD on first pc, installed and configured ubuntu on it
[08:32] <leptone_> im looking for a good text-to-speech solution that allows me to highlight text in my browser and have that read. Does anyonee know of a good one?
[08:32] <gipzo> the copied this system to usb and inserted it in this pc
[08:32] <gipzo> and it works perfectly
[08:33] <gipzo> but when i insert it in other pc's i have troubles with network interfaces
[08:36] <father> plz , Unable to locate package armitage
[08:40] <j0d3> buenos días
[08:44] <father> hi
[08:45] <father> plz help :Unable to locate package
[08:50] <jimmy_lo_chien_f> Hi, I use ubuntu 12.10, when I try to connect to server via nautilus, I get message "Can't load the supported server method list. Please check your gvfs installation." in a dialog
[08:53] <jimmy_lo_chien_f> I've followed directions on this page: http://askubuntu.com/questions/87335/nautilus-cannot-load-supported-server-method-list-please-check-your-gvfs-inst
[08:53] <jimmy_lo_chien_f> But I still cannot connect to server.
[08:55] <jimmy_lo_chien_f> Do you know how to resolve this?
[08:58] <Kartagis> !grub2
[08:59] <dup> !lilo
[09:08] <Plumblum> hello, im having trouble adding php-zeroc-ice to my system, i should get an IcePHP.so in my php's extensions dir
[09:09] <Plumblum> but i have no clue on where zeroc-ice gets installed when apt-get etc etc
[09:10] <dysun> Hi all. Hoping one of you guys can help. I'm trying to get vlan tagged traffic from GNS3 out to my switch, but i think the interface that it's connected to ( on the Linux machine) keeps dropping it. I've already modified the MTU from 1500 to 2000, and the dropped packet count keeps on increasing every 2 seconds by 12
[09:10] <dysun> is there a way to get the traffic through?
[09:11] <superdo> hi, any hint how to compile krusader latest beta?
[09:13] <ikonia> superdo: what hint do you need ?
[09:13] <ikonia> superdo: what's not working ?
[09:13] <superdo> beta1 has a bug, but beta 3 doesnt
[09:13] <superdo> but beta3 is not in deb package
[09:14] <azi`> is there a way to install ubuntu with xfce from the start? other than using xubuntu?
[09:14] <auronandace> !mini | azi`
[09:15] <Bourne> So If I'm trying to install ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[09:16] <Bourne> and the screen goes dark as soon as I start the install
[09:16] <Bourne> problem with my graphics card?
[09:16] <dadan> f
[09:17] <dadan> quit
[09:19] <ace_> How can I upgrade from 10.10
[09:20] <ace_> to 12.04
[09:20] <ace_> upgrade to 11.04 failed
[09:24] <dward> ace, why did it fail?
[09:25] <pzn> using 12.10, if I do this: "setxkbmap -model thinkpad60 -layout br" by keyboard starts working OK. after hibernate-restore, the keyboard is lost and I need to execute the command again... how to fix this? thanks in advance
[09:27] <Kartagis> how long would sudo mkfs.ntfs -q /dev/sdf1 take for a 3TB disk?
[09:28] <acelitemn> hello
[09:28] <dward> pzn do you want to make the change permanent
[09:28] <dward> ?
[09:29] <dward> pzn to make a permanent change you could run sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration
[09:30] <dward> pzn then sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup
[09:31] <dward> kartagis, depends on the hardware, could take a very long time
[09:33] <dward> kartagis, but shouldn't take more than 5 minutes.
[09:33] <dward> more like 2 minutes i would guess, but the speed could be increased with configuration kartagis
[09:33] <azbarcea> hi everyone ...
[09:34] <azbarcea> any idea why if [ "some-tmp" == "*tmp" ] ; then echo x; else echo y; fi prints "y" in Ubuntu,  and not "x"?
[09:34] <Kartagis> dward: before, I did it without -q and it took 1375 minutes. now I did with -q and I had to break at 43 minutes
[09:36] <dward> azbarecea read up on test, run 'man test', you are matching two strings and "some-tmp" != "*tmp"
[09:36] <dward> kartagis, that seems a bit excessive
[09:38] <dward> kartagis, but i think i may have underestimated come to think of it.
[09:39] <dward> kartagis you could set a stripe size to make it run quicker and set the inetrnal and lazy-count variables
[09:39] <azbarcea> dward: thx, but in other distro it uses the regexp having *?. as special chars ...
[09:39] <dward> those cause a delay between writting the inode tables (default is close to 2 seconds)
[09:40] <lordcyfer> Hello everybody i would like to know if someone did an auto-install cd/dvd of Ubuntu 12.04 desktop using presseed ? My final target is to do the full auto install without network.
[09:41] <Kartagis> dward: stripe size? how do I set that?
[09:41] <llutz> azbarcea: single square brackets don't use regesps
[09:41] <llutz> regexps*
[09:43] <Kartagis> dward: apparently I completely misread man page. it was -f for quick, not -q
[09:44] <dward> kartagis, to use regexp with test do this
[09:44] <alvesjnr> hi al. I'm tired of losing 1G RAM for chrome. Which browser you suggest me to try?
[09:44] <dward> if [[ "some-tmp" == *"tmp" ]]
[09:44] <dward> that would be the proper bash
[09:44] <azi`> auronandace: thanks! So I should use the minimal CD and then select my preferred window manager?
[09:45] <dward> kartagis, sorry wrong person
[09:45] <dward> kartagis, okay let me know if that speeds things up, if not, i could help you with stripe size
[09:46] <seamus_> I run Lubuntu 12.04,  wish to install Dr. Racket, so I went to the site and got the file--- it's a .sh file. So I tried to run it and it stopped and gave me the following which leaves me stuck. /usr/racket-tmp-install/bin/racket: 1: /usr/racket-tmp-install/bin/racket: Syntax error: "(" unexpected
[09:46] <seamus_> Error: installation failed
[09:46] <Kartagis> dward: now it took 7 seconds
[09:46] <dward> kartagis, that's more like it
[09:46] <dward> azbarcea: if [[ "some-tmp" == *"tmp" ]]
[09:46] <dward> azbarcea: would be the correct bash
[09:47] <dward> azbarcea: i don't think that varies between distrobutions
[09:52] <akela> exit
[09:52] <row> Hey guys. Adobe illustrator work in ubuntu 12.10 ?
[09:53] <caput_draconis> maybe using some wine trickery, and also depending on the version...
[09:54] <caput_draconis> unless of a very specific reason try inkscape
[09:55] <dward> row: check winehq
[09:55] <dward> row: i know older versions work okay
[09:57] <histo> !appdb | row
[10:00] <XP> how to fix this code to split this into two strings, before "on", and after. http://pastebin.com/DAyKy4zT ...
[10:01] <XP> how to fix this code to split this into two strings, before "on", and after. http://pastebin.com/DAyKy4zT ...  anyone?
[10:02] <lordcyfer> Hello nobody can help me ??
[10:02] <lordcyfer> Hello everybody i would like to know if someone did an auto-install cd/dvd of Ubuntu 12.04 desktop using presseed ? My final target is to do the full auto install without network.
[10:02] <llutz> XP: ##c  exists
[10:03] <histo> lordcyfer: I don't completely understand your question.
[10:03] <burtonium> llutz: if you can't help, keep your useless comment for yourself
[10:04] <llutz> !ot | burtonium
[10:04] <lordcyfer> I need to do an auto install cd or dvd to install an ubuntu 12.04 with the ubuntu-desktop environments and other tools
[10:04] <burtonium> !ot|llutz
[10:06] <lordcyfer> but my install is doing an error at the end
[10:06] <histo> lordcyfer: unattended install
[10:06] <[Linux]Horst> how do i check which fonts are set for sans, serif and sans serif?
[10:06] <llutz> !pm | burtonium
[10:07] <lordcyfer> so histo ?
[10:07] <histo> lordcyfer: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/unattended-ubuntu-installations-made-easy.html here's a howto for ya
[10:07] <llutz> burtonium: stop PMing me, i don't read those
[10:08] <burtonium> llutz: i don't need your help, i just appologized, for missunderstanding ;)
[10:08] <lordcyfer> This how to is the worst one of all i found
[10:08] <lordcyfer> my problem is the fact the i don't want to install without the network
[10:08] <lordcyfer> Does not matter
[10:08] <lordcyfer> i'll find
[10:08] <daughain> MOrning, all.
[10:09] <dup> gmorn
[10:09] <histo> !install | lordcyfer
[10:09] <daughain> Exactly what is going on when I get:sudo: unable to resolve host Antiquities-Mobi
[10:09] <histo> !automate
[10:09] <histo> lordcyfer: ^^^^^
[10:10] <lordcyfer> I know it by heart already
[10:12] <lordcyfer> it is ok
[10:12] <lordcyfer> i found my problem was the base system
[10:13] <histo> lordcyfer: You do not need network to install. I'm not sure what your question is again
[10:13] <lordcyfer>  My final target is to do the full auto install without network.  <<< from my 1st and second question
[10:16] <acelitemn> hello what is best free dynamic ip updater?
[10:16] <caput_draconis> few choices lately, prob no-ip
[10:17] <acelitemn> ty
[10:17] <histo> lordcyfer: You don't need network if you are using a cd
[10:17] <histo> !best | acelitemn
[10:17] <acelitemn> im using dyndns its not free :(
[10:17] <lordcyfer> his to did you try ?
[10:18] <histo> lordcyfer: I've installed ubuntu without network plenty of times.
[10:18] <lordcyfer> so something is missing in my pressed file
[10:19] <histo> lordcyfer: I have not tried using a method that you are.
[10:19] <histo> lordcyfer: is there a reason your not just cloning?
[10:19] <lordcyfer> Yes
[10:19] <lordcyfer> I will have lot of differents machines
[10:19] <lordcyfer> all around the world
[10:20] <lordcyfer> We had a discussion with my team about that
[10:21] <histo> lordcyfer: are you going to hand out your cd's then? You could just hand out an image
[10:22] <lordcyfer> forget his to
[10:22] <lordcyfer> i know what i am doing and why
[10:23] <histo> lordcyfer: okay the prehaps you can explain the error you are getting and when?
[10:24] <histo> lordcyfer: are you selecting a package that is not present on the cd?
[10:25] <lordcyfer> d-i base-installer/install-recommends boolean true
[10:25] <lordcyfer> d-i base-installer/kernel/image string linux-generic openssh
[10:25] <lordcyfer> I just install that
[10:26] <histo> lordcyfer: did you see the section about disabling network completely?
[10:26] <lordcyfer> yes
[10:26] <lordcyfer> i did
[10:27] <histo> #d-i netcfg/enable boolean false
[10:27] <histo> lordcyfer: what is your set to?
[10:27] <histo> didyou uncomment it?
[10:27] <lordcyfer> for sure
[10:27] <lordcyfer> lol
[10:27] <histo> cant you paste your config please
[10:28] <lordcyfer> 2 min
[10:28] <histo> lordcyfer: pate.ubuntu.com
[10:28] <lordcyfer> need coffeee
[10:28] <histo> lordcyfer: sorry paste.ubuntu.com
[10:28] <daughain> Ubuntu pate.......hmmm
[10:31] <histo> lol
[10:33] <lordcyfer> It's ok it work
[10:34] <lordcyfer> Now i'll add a local apt repo
[10:35] <lordcyfer> Guys
[10:35] <lordcyfer> a question
[10:35] <lordcyfer> if you need a set of dpkg
[10:35] <lordcyfer> and all the dependancies
[10:35] <lordcyfer> from a very minimal install how would you do ?
[10:36] <daughain> <----n00b
[10:36] <daughain> I just ask questions..
[10:37] <iciraus> If no one asked questions there would be no answers.. :)
[10:37] <histo> !cloning | lordcyfer
[10:37] <lordcyfer> Guys Thanks a lot
[10:38] <daughain> iciraus, True, but I have no answers yet, which is kinda a problem.
[10:38] <histo> daughain: what were you doing when you received that error?
[10:38] <daughain> Trying to edit fstab.
[10:38] <daughain> histo, sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[10:39] <k1l_> dont use sudo for grafical programs
[10:39] <k1l_> use gksudo instead
[10:39] <sddhrthrt> hey i have trouble using usb_modprobe
[10:40] <daughain> Yeah......kil_, I dont kn ow emnough commands to do that.
[10:40] <neirpyc> As what I would consider pretty hardcore Ubuntu users, what FTP client do you recommend?
[10:41] <histo> daughain: well you should be using gksudo with graphical apps for one. For two you shouldn't be receiving an error about a URL not resolving whiel editing a file.
[10:42] <histo> !details | sddhrthrt
[10:42] <daughain> histo, Thats the confusion that sent me here. :)
[10:43] <daughain> the other issue I get is; No protocol specified
[10:43] <daughain> Cannot open display:
[10:43] <histo> daughain: gksu gedit /etc/fstab and paste.ubuntu.com the output
[10:43] <daughain> then back to prompt. Ok.
[10:43] <histo> daughain: did you recently change your hostname?
[10:44] <daughain> I did it temporarily earlier to try something, but I didnt make it a permanent change.
[10:45] <daughain> histo, Just says Cannot open display
[10:45] <histo> daughain: okay that's why sudo is broken
[10:45] <histo> !hostname | daughain
[10:45] <daughain> I need to reboot?
[10:45] <histo> daughain: Or you could change it back
[10:46] <histo> daughain: the important part is that hostname matches /etc/hosts
[10:46] <Dii_Pundiih> Hi. I have a question about the lxpanel, i run lubuntu 12.04.. I run two monitors in twinview with nvidas drivers 304 and it is like the desktop is a long stretched one even if, if i maximize a window it maximize to fill only one monitor.. the left namely. i would like to know if this is how it is in twinwiew.. or if one could make it so somehow that it can maximize in right monitor also and that there is seperated lxpanels for both monitors.. i have trie
[10:46] <daughain> Far as I can tell, it *should* be back. Command hostname shows what it was before I did the temp change.
[10:47] <histo> daughain: what does cat /etc/hosts   show?
[10:47] <daughain> Cat shows the correct machine name
[10:48] <histo> daughain: hrm...
[10:48] <daughain> I made no changes to /etc/hosts or /etc/hostname
[10:49] <histo> daughain: you said you did earlier how did you revert them?
[10:49] <daughain> simply sudo hostname <newhost>
[10:49] <histo> daughain: and how did you change it back?
[10:49] <daughain> I closed that terminal event and reopened a new one./
[10:50] <histo> daughain: so sudo doesn't work with any application?
[10:51] <daughain> As far as I can tell, I dont use it often, honestly.
[10:52] <daughain> histo, Everything I have tried it with has failed.
[10:53] <burtonium> what if you change hostname file in /etc/
[10:53] <Lynx> Hello!
[10:53] <daughain> burtonium, As in make a permanent change and see if it works?
[10:54] <daughain> Monring, Lynx
[10:54] <burtonium> daughain: i needed to change hostname on my netbook last night. I just did: sudo nano /etc/hostname and changed the name. And it worked.
[10:55] <daughain> burtonium, I cannot use sudo currently, the problem appears to be the fact that I used sudo hostname <newhost> last night to test something.
[10:56] <burtonium> ohhhhh
[10:56] <burtonium> daugh: can you get root privileges by sudo -s?
[10:56] <daughain> I used that command, because I thought it would allow for a temporary change.
[10:56] <daughain> burtonium, How do I use that?
[10:57] <burtonium> just type in terminal
[10:57] <burtonium> sudo -s
[10:57] <burtonium> and you should be looged in as root
[10:57] <daughain> Yes, that worked.
[10:57] <k1l_> histo: using sudo with gui programs will break the rights of the folders and files
[10:57] <k1l_> i would recommend "sudo -i"
[10:57] <k1l_> (instead of -s)
[10:57] <daughain> Whats the difference?
[10:58] <k1l_> -i sets the enviroment variables right
[10:58] <daughain> That worked too.
[10:59] <burtonium> can you now change hostname?
[10:59] <burtonium> or can you now open /etc/hostname for editing?
[11:00] <daughain> burtonium, I dont *want* to change hostname. It honestly begins to look like I need to reboot to undo the temp change I tried to make.
[11:00] <daughain> burtonium, Going to try opening fstab, yes.
[11:00] <daughain> Still wont open, and has the same errors.
[11:00] <daughain> Even running as root.
[11:01] <demonio> hi all, for connect to a wep AP how can i use the iwconfig command? I issue this iwconfig interface essid "name_AP" key keyAP, but it doesn't work
[11:01] <k1l_> which errors? daughain
[11:01] <daughain> kil_, No protocol specified
[11:01] <daughain> No protocol specified
[11:01] <daughain> Cannot open display:
[11:02] <daughain> And a message to check the man page.
[11:03] <k1l_> daughain: reboot
[11:03] <daughain> lol
[11:03] <k1l_> daughain: oh wait
[11:04] <daughain> Actually, I thin k thats what I need to do.
[11:04] <k1l_> open a terminal and type: "ls -al ~/.ICEAuthority"
[11:04] <daughain> kil_, A new instance of term, or the one I already have open?
[11:05] <k1l_> doesnt matter
[11:06] <daughain> kil_, ls: cannot access /root/.ICEauthority: No such file or directory
[11:06] <patc> Hi, how can I list all dm-xx devices? I got one that triggers messages like this "lost page write due to I/O error on dm-11"... so how to know "what" is dm-11?
[11:06] <k1l_> daughain: no, not a s root
[11:07] <k1l_> daughain: dont run everything as root. that will cause you alot of problems
[11:08] <daughain> Actually, I thought I had exited out of root when I ran it at first.
[11:08] <daughain> kil_, -rw------- 1 daughain daughain 5600 Feb 24 19:53 /home/daughain/.ICEauthority
[11:08] <swordsmanz> iv got a problem were ubuntu won't  map my second display, any ideas ?
[11:08] <k1l_> daughain: hmm, that is ok
[11:09] <daughain> Yeah, let me try a reboot, and see what happens.
[11:09] <k1l_> daughain: i would recommend to not stay logged in as root user
[11:09] <daughain> I usually dont, I just use sudo when needed.
[11:11] <daughain> I didnt even know I how to run as root till you told me how. :P
[11:17] <Lynxx> hello i'm on ubuntu 12.10 ... i am having problems with grep hanging with everything.. doesnt seem to matter what option i use it hangs and only ctrl x or c allows me to exit . whats going on?
[11:17] <patc> Noone about these dm-devices?
[11:18] <GoGirl> hi
[11:18] <daughain> So far a reboot seems to have solved my issue.....
[11:20] <packetfrog> hihi
[11:21] <k1l_> daughain: now just dont write sudo in front of all commands :)
[11:21] <daughain> But its so much fun....
[11:22] <k1l_> :/
[11:22] <daughain> That was sarcasm, kil_
[11:23] <daughain> brb
[11:24] <GoGirl> I installed Ubuntu 12.10 on HP Compaq nx6125, and since then my wifi connection doesnt work. Does anyone know how could I solve the problem, because  no metter what I try it still doesnt work. Also: one of errors was: Module b43 does not exist
[11:25] <packetfrog> gogirl http://askubuntu.com/questions/63648/how-do-i-install-this-patched-b43-driver
[11:26] <GoGirl> packetfrog I will try that tnx..
[11:26] <packetfrog> you need a driver for your wireless card that works
[11:28] <Bitvilag> hi everyone
[11:28] <packetfrog> hi
[11:28] <Bitvilag> i have a question about q67 intel motherboard with ubuntu?!
[11:28] <packetfrog> ok
[11:28] <Bitvilag> does anyone know anything about q67 chipset?
[11:28] <packetfrog> google does  whats wrong?
[11:28] <Bitvilag> lol google does not help haha
[11:29] <packetfrog> what is the problem
[11:29] <Bitvilag> i cant seem find any info about its remote management capabilities
[11:29] <Bitvilag> and if its good enough for an ubuntu server ... for website
[11:30] <packetfrog> Bitvilag http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Active_Management_Technology
[11:31] <packetfrog> google knows all
[11:31] <Bitvilag> i tried for an hour i am not sure why i did not end up here
[11:32] <Lynxx> can i safely uninstall and reinstall grep?
[11:32] <packetfrog> I copy pasted your item name and clicked two things...
[11:32] <Lynxx> i think installing an eggdrop screwed it up
[11:32] <packetfrog> not complaining though
[11:32] <TecHSpec> Hi everyone! On the Device page for Ubuntu, there is a text that says "and access to remote Windows apps over protocols from Microsoft, Citrix, Wyse and VMWare",  How does this work? If i understand corectly, i will remote connect to an windows aplication running on a server. But lets say i am using Photoshop on this windows server, and remotely viewing the program in Ubuntu.. Is it possible to save and open the files on my  ubuntu d
[11:33] <zxxandxxz> ciao belli
[11:33] <[HUN]Bitvilag> dammn i got disconnected
[11:33] <zxxandxxz> hi
[11:33] <Lynxx> doesnt seem like anyone is helping  today
[11:34] <packetfrog> whats the problem
[11:34] <zlatan> hi, when I try to shutdown ubuntu it just hangs at ubuntu logo running those dots :)
[11:34] <packetfrog> Lynxx sudo apt-get -f install grep
[11:35] <[HUN]Bitvilag> packetfrog -- did it say that q67 chipset has this feature
[11:35] <packetfrog> zlatan http://askubuntu.com/questions/132143/stuck-on-reboot-and-shutdown
[11:35] <packetfrog> bit  Yes it did
[11:36] <packetfrog> Bit i googled the board   got to intel spec sheet   googled the feature you wanted...
[11:37] <[HUN]Bitvilag> oh i c
[11:37] <packetfrog> Just google the board name and intel
[11:37] <[HUN]Bitvilag> i still dont get how this thing works
[11:37] <TecHSpec> packetfrog, you are amazing! you answer everything here! =) do you know anything about "remote Windows apps over protocols from Microsoft, Citrix, Wyse and VMWare"  into ubuntu?
[11:37] <[HUN]Bitvilag> like does it run a webserver at all times ??!!
[11:37] <Lynxx> well i cleaned up stuff, tried reinstalling
[11:38] <Lynxx> grep still hangs
[11:38] <packetfrog> TecHSpec Not personally  I can google it though
[11:38] <Lynxx> unless i do grep -r
[11:38] <Lynxx> but 'grep (searchstring)' causes it to hang
[11:38] <packetfrog> Bit you have to read the wiki  I wouldnt pay for it though
[11:38] <packetfrog> Lynxx one sec
[11:38] <[HUN]Bitvilag> i c thanks for the info
[11:38] <[HUN]Bitvilag> i am reading it right now
[11:39] <TecHSpec> packetfrog google i can do my self =) But thanks anyway =)
[11:41] <packetfrog> Lynxx BRB
[11:41] <Lynxx> ok
[11:43] <packetfrog> Lynxx ? sudo apt-get remove grep    DO NOT REBOOT DIRECTLY DO A     sudo apt-get install grep
[11:43] <packetfrog> I just tested and I am still stable :)
[11:44] <Lynxx> ok
[11:45] <Bitvilag> tested what?
[11:45] <packetfrog> something for lynx
[11:45] <Bitvilag> oh ok
[11:45] <packetfrog> removing grep and reinstalling
[11:45] <Bitvilag> its possible?:P
[11:45] <Lynxx> well i reistalled still hangs
[11:45] <Lynxx> maybe i was thinking of pgrep
[11:45] <daughain> So much for that....
[11:45] <minas> hi. My terminal (gnome-terminal) sometimes displays text like this: http://i49.tinypic.com/biv1ig.jpg Any ideas why?
[11:45] <packetfrog> daug  whats wrong
[11:46] <Lynxx> oh well i might figure it out sometime
[11:46] <daughain> Trying to sync my box.com acct in 12.04, followed the directions on liberiangeek.net, and it doesnt work.
[11:46] <packetfrog> Lynxx i think you are using it wrong
[11:47] <Lynxx> possibly
[11:47] <Lynxx> because i just used pgrep and it returned what i was looking for
[11:47] <Lynxx> i was doing 'grep filename'
[11:47] <packetfrog> daughain http://askubuntu.com/questions/237529/how-can-i-use-box-com-to-sync-my-home-directory-across-machines
[11:48] <packetfrog> grep just parses out the stuff you want
[11:48] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[11:48] <packetfrog> so it would hang
[11:48] <daughain> I'll try that now...
[11:48] <packetfrog> hello
[11:48] <daughain> Thanks.
[11:48] <k1l_> Lynxx: you are using grep the right way?
[11:49] <Lynxx> i am?
[11:49] <k1l_> Lynxx: i think you are missing the search string
[11:49] <Jimi_Neutral> Hi Guys, I used Ubuntu a while back now and I just wanted to know, how is gaming with Ubuntu now?
[11:49] <packetfrog> he was just using the wrong command and got worried.
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> Jimi_Neutral: depends on the game
[11:49] <Lynxx> which would be
[11:49] <packetfrog> jimi it is great  we have steam now
[11:50] <Jimi_Neutral> without Steam
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> Jimi_Neutral: its a lot better than it was, I play Urban terror and penumbra :)
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> Jimi_Neutral: the humble bundles are decent as well
[11:50] <Jimi_Neutral> WHat about things like call of duty, baldurs gate, the new sim city and so on
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> Jimi_Neutral: check the wine appdb to see how they run
[11:51] <toxboi> Hi all, I recently got a HP Envy 4-1020ea laptop and installed Ubuntu 12.04 on it. Everything is working perfectly except hibernation. When I rum pm-hibernate, the system turns off but nothing is restored upon resuming. Any help will be highly appreciated. Thanks!
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> Jimi_Neutral: also check the same for cedega and crossover office
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> toxboi: are there any bugs reported?
[11:52] <toxboi> ActionParsnip: none that I can find.
[11:52] <Jimi_Neutral> cedega and crossover office?
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> Jimi_Neutral: yes
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> toxboi: do you have the latest updates and bios?
[11:52] <Lynxx> yeah i think i confused pgrep and grep.. thanks folks
[11:52] <Jimi_Neutral> What is that? As I said, was a long time ago :)
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> Jimi_Neutral: the web will tell you far more than I can on here
[11:52] <Jimi_Neutral> ok ty
[11:54] <BluesKaj> toxboi, hope your swap partitipn is as large as your RAM , or greater
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> toxboi: what is the output of:  free -m       please use a pastebin to host the output. Thanks
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: nice catch
[11:56] <BluesKaj> hey ActionParsnip , and it's early here
[11:57] <toxboi> BluesKaj: Yes, it is.
[11:57] <histo> toxboi: How big is your swap?
[11:57] <histo> toxboi: compared to RAM
[11:57] <histo> and how much of it is in use prior to hibernating
[11:57] <toxboi> histo: Swap: 20G, RAM: 16G
[11:58] <toxboi> is that an issue?
[11:58] <histo> toxboi: when the system is running prior to pm-hybernate or whatever type in free and see how much swap is being used
[11:58] <CommaCrazy> hi all
[11:58] <CommaCrazy> hi all, I have a bit of a problem, on a (stupid) Ubuntu desktop on of my colleagues managed to corrupt an .ods file
[11:59] <CommaCrazy> and by rebooting the machine
[11:59] <CommaCrazy> s there a way that I can recover that file
[11:59] <toxboi> histo: ah, right. I don't know that as laptop is at home. I shall look into it later today and get back to you.
[11:59] <CommaCrazy> ??
[11:59] <toxboi> thanks histo, ActionParsnip and BluesKaj. Cheers guys!
[12:00] <histo> !undelete | CommaCrazy
[12:03] <Jimi_Neutral> Ok thanks guys
[12:03] <Jimi_Neutral> One more thing
[12:04] <Jimi_Neutral> I seem to have an issue finding iTunes after installing Playonlinux. Anyone know if it is even available any more. Cant find anything pertaining to that on the internet.
[12:04] <Dra|n> can i install pear from apt=get?
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> Jimi_Neutral: appdb again dude. I don't believe it works
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> !find pear
[12:05] <histo> Dra|n: I think it's php5-pear or something like that
[12:05] <Jimi_Neutral> Odd, I have seen tonnes of tuts for it and seen them working in videos.
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> Dra|n: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PhpPear  that?
[12:05] <Dra|n> ActionParsnip, i think, its for install drush ?
[12:06] <Dra|n> ActionParsnip, yes thanks!
[12:08] <Jimi_Neutral> yeah loads of entrys on wine
[12:10] <safridzal> hi, i'd like to ask, if i already have / and /home partition, and I want to make another ext4 on my disk as "music partition", how to make that partition writeable by me (not root)?? is that possible?
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> safridzal: add it in /etc/fstab and you can specify the access you want
[12:11] <histo> safridzal: rw access when you mount it in fstab. Or on cli. Also are you sure you need another partition?
[12:11] <histo> safridzal: You can just create a folder.
[12:12] <safridzal> ActionParsnip: histo: ahh, so that's all i need to add as option? the "rw" ?? because i only add nodev and no*i forgot
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> safridzal: add it in fstab and it will mount at boot
[12:14] <histo> !mount | safridzal Also if you are running debian you should ask in #ubuntu
[12:15] <histo> safridzal: sorry meant ask in #debian but either way
[12:15] <heraclitis> http://i.imgur.com/3XBoOz4.jpg
[12:15] <safridzal> histo: yea, i know that, but i dont like debian channel, i prefer here.. :D (and so i think its better if i'm not saying im using debian here)
[12:15] <safridzal> hehe
[12:16] <histo> safridzal: well you also asked in #linux
[12:16] <dward> heracltis: cableporn
[12:16] <dward> @heraclitis
[12:16] <safridzal> okay2, i've found the fstab and mpunt manual, reading it now :D
[12:16] <sogeking99> Hey guys, if I get kubuntu-desktop will it remove unity? Or and I have them both.
[12:16] <safridzal> thanks
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> safridzal: if you are using debian then your support is not here
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> sogeking99: you will have both Gnome and KDE
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> sogeking99: you will get the choice at login time
[12:17] <francis> Hi people
[12:17] <sogeking99> Okay thanks ActionParsnip anyway I can try out cinnamon? Or does that require mint?
[12:17] <demonio> hi all, i have a wifi with open key, so i type iwconfig wlan0 essid "essid_my_network", thene i issue dhclient wlan0 but it doesn't seem work
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> sogeking99: there is a PPA you can use
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> sogeking99: the support for Cinammon is in the mint channels
[12:18] <sogeking99> Okay thanks
[12:18] <heraclitis> lol dward
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> demonio: is it a server install?
[12:19] <demonio> ActionParsnip no no i want just to connect my ubuntu to my wifi
[12:19] <dward> heraclitis that is where you got that picture right? reddit?
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> demonio: why not use the icon in the top right hand corner?
[12:20] <heraclitis> yup, it was actually under "beautiful server" but yeah, it's awesome
[12:20] <demonio> ActionParsnip i'm running a guide for make this by terminal
[12:21] <histo> safridzal: did you try mounting it and did you have write issues?
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> toxboi: http://askubuntu.com/questions/86283/wake-up-from-sleep-on-hp-envy-14   found that, check if its applicable and try it :)
[12:21] <anuspenetrator> hallo
[12:21] <anuspenetrator> ik heb een harige anus
[12:22] <dward> heraclitis i guess it was on r/pics too, there is an entire subreddit called r/cableporn though if you arent familiar. http://cableporn.reddit.com
[12:22] <dward> check it out
[12:23] <nipplez1> ActionParsnip, how's it going?
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> nipplez1: not bad :)
[12:24] <nipplez1> remember you helped me installing Ubuntu once?
[12:24] <Jimi_Neutral> Ya know, Action...I am sure you are the one that helped me a few years ago with a few things. Been on here a long time lol
[12:24] <Jimi_Neutral> hahahah and theres someone else!
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> nipplez1: I've drank and slept since then
[12:24] <histo> Jimi_Neutral: There are plenty of people that have been on here for years
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> Jimi_Neutral: been using Ubuntu since 7.04, so will have been around for a lot of stuff :)
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> Jimi_Neutral: and Linux as a whole since 2001
[12:25] <histo> I've been using ubuntu since the beginning.
[12:25] <Fuzzles> who actually likes unity?
[12:25] <dward> no one
[12:25] <histo> !polls | Fuzzles
[12:26] <CookieM> me
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> Fuzzles: its ok, its not great but not as bad as people make out imho
[12:26] <histo> It's growing on me.
[12:26] <Fuzzles> ActionParsnip, what de you like?
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> Fuzzles: none, i just use fluxbox now
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> Fuzzles: fluxbox + xcompmgr + docky :)
[12:27] <dward> fluxbox is great
[12:27] <histo> Fuzzles: I like the dash and for me it really doesn't matter which DE i'm in as I use the keyboard a lot. So I configure it so I barely use the touchpad on my laptop.
[12:27] <Guest68923> Can anybody tell me which package contains chattr? I though it was e2fslibs which I have installed but there is no chattr !
[12:27] <DJones> !find chattr
[12:27] <heraclitis> @ dward that's awesome, I bookmarked that page
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> Guest68923: run:   dpkg -S chattr
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> Guest68923: your OS can tell you :)
[12:28] <DJones> Guest68923: See the info from ubottu above
[12:28] <histo> Guest68923: also you can usally find at the bottom of the man page if it's part of another package
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> Guest68923: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5564564/
[12:29] <yown> I want to use shred, or some other overwrite program on a USB flash drive. I was told that the drive should be unmounted to be safe, is this true? Well if it is, then I am having a problem, since I can't seem to just unmount it, every attempt has resulted in it being not seen by the OS at all
[12:30] <histo> yown: sudo umount /path/to/mount/point
[12:30] <yown> histo Then it loses the drive
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> yown: could use dd as well, same bag. You will still be able to access it as a block device using sudo
[12:30] <Guest68923> OK I found it :) It was in the e2fsprogs package. Now it's working thanks.
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> yown: you can then repartition and reuse the device
[12:31] <dward> yown: delete the file, unmount then run zerofree /dev/FLASHDRIVE
[12:31] <yown> ActionParsnip: dd is another version of shred?
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> yown: you can writes 0s from the start of teh device to the end
[12:31] <yown> dward I can't run anything on a drive that isn't seen
[12:31] <krypto> is it possible to enable ksmtuned on ubuntu, i am not able to see that service on ubuntu
[12:31] <histo> yown: If you unmount it it will lose control of the drive yes
[12:31] <dward> yown: or you can not unmount and run 'dd if=/dev/null of=/where/ever/flashdrive/is/mounted
[12:32] <histo> yown: dd != shred but you can overwrite with it.
[12:32] <histo> dward: That doesn't work
[12:32] <iknofailfu> guys, if system can't see partitions but it is possible to add them and mount with `addpart`, is there any way i could fix the partition table? i've read manpages for fdisk, cfdisk, sfdisk but i suspect i just don't get it hah
[12:32] <dward> yown it will be somewhere in /dev/
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> dward: you don't use dd on mount points
[12:32] <histo> dward: /dev/null != /dev/zero or /dev/random
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> yown: sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/blockdevice
[12:32] <yown> histo "dd != shred but you can overwrite with it." I didn't quit fully understand that
[12:32] <histo> yown: ^^^^ also add bs=1M
[12:32] <dward> histo: /dev/zero exactly what i meant my bad
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> yown: be very sure of the device so that you zero the right device, otherwise dd with stand for (d)ata (d)estroyer
[12:33] <yown> So is it a issue/risk to run shred on a mounted drive?
[12:33] <yown> is DD just as good as shred for removing data residue?
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> yown: i don't think it will even run, it will be marked as busy
[12:34] <histo> yown: I was saying dd doesn't equal shred. Although you can easily overwrite with dd.
[12:34] <dward> ActionParsnip why not use dd if the flash drive is mounted?
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> yown: yes it will go from end to end, zeroing out the storage
[12:34] <histo> yown: shred does the same thing although it overwrite multiple times because there are some freaks out there that believe that data can be recovered after being overwritten.
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> dward: It will destroy the FAT as well, might confuse the OS
[12:34] <iknofailfu> yown, take a look at bcwipe propietary tool, but if it is flash memory and your goal is to erase it securely, writing zeroes with dd is not the best option, /dev/urandom at least
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> iknofailfu: what is wrong with dd?
[12:35] <iknofailfu> ActionParsnip, nothing wrong with dd, but flash memory requires several cycles
[12:35] <histo> yown: iknofailfu is aparently one of those freaks that believes it can be recovered after being overwritten
[12:35] <iknofailfu> to be erased securely
[12:35] <yown> iknofailfu: Why is writting zeroes to it not a good option?
[12:35] <histo> iknofailfu: That's not true
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> iknofailfu: a single wipe is just as secure as 10.
[12:35] <iknofailfu> histo, nah i believe in what is written in official research papers
[12:35] <yown> But I shouldn't do it while it is mounted?
[12:35] <histo> It's practically impossible to recover after a single wipe.
[12:35] <jeetpei> Hi All i want to configure my Ubuntu to send me system report in every hour .. how can i do this
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> iknofailfu: yeah, from when 1970?
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> jeetpei: look into gnome-schedule
[12:36] <streulma> can someone convince me to use Ubuntu, prefered over Mac OS X (I have a Macbook Pro)
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> jeetpei: its a gui for cron
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> streulma: try it, see what you think
[12:36] <histo> iknofailfu: Yeah if you have an electron microscope and hundreds of years to go over each block looking for magnetic resonance and hoping that you got all #########################################blocks right you maybe able to rebuild a file.
[12:36] <histo> It's just not possible
[12:37] <jeetpei> i am using Lucid
[12:37] <CallingPanther> Bill Gates once said no personal computer would ever have the need for more than 640K of memory too.
[12:37] <iknofailfu> guys i believe you are not professionals in data recovery, as well as i am, my statements are based on researches' whitepapers
[12:37] <histo> streulma: No you decide on your own.
[12:37] <dward> ActionParsnip not if you specify an output file. it won't override the inode tables, it'll terminate when there is no more free disk space
[12:37] <iknofailfu> don't be so offensive
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> jeetpei: lucid is EOL in April this year. I suggest an upgrade to Precise soon
[12:37] <histo> iknofailfu: I work in data recover
[12:37] <yown> Should I avoid using DD, shred etc when the drive is mounted? If so, what are the risks?
[12:37] <iknofailfu> that's sad you don't read those
[12:37] <dward> ActionParsnip i'm pretty sure at least
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> dward: everything in linux is a file....
[12:38] <streulma> use rescue-dd
[12:38] <histo> iknofailfu: It's a theory that hasn't been proven as I said it would take far too long perhaps you should read the "papers"
[12:38] <histo> It's theoretically possible but so is many other things THAT WILL NEVER EVER HAPPEN
[12:39] <iknofailfu> histo, i already said what my statements are based on, my opinion is not absolute, you may consider it or not, i don't really care =)
[12:39] <histo> like throw a tennis ball at a brick wall. Quantum theory shows that on some random chance the tennis ball may actually pass through the wall unharmed. Go ahead and try that and get back to me when it happens.
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> histo: good old Gutmann eh :)
[12:39] <iknofailfu> quantum theory is not something 100% proven to be true
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> iknofailfu: http://www.howtogeek.com/115573/htg-explains-why-you-only-have-to-wipe-a-disk-once-to-erase-it/
[12:40] <DJones> !ot
[12:40] <histo> iknofailfu: NEITHER IS RECOVERING OVERWRITTEN DATA DOLT
[12:40] <jeetpei> Andrew : yup i know but for now i have to stick with it till my all configuration migrate to precise
[12:40] <iknofailfu> ActionParsnip, i know how to do that and i'm happy with it but thank you
[12:40] <Jimi_Neutral> Yeah action, i dont forget a name, it was defo you lol
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> iknofailfu: it explain why its false too, its not just method
[12:40] <dward> ActionParsnip or a proc... but that's besides the point. I could be wrong but i think if i ran dd if=/dev/zero of=/emptyfile it would only write on empty disk space
[12:40] <histo> iknofailfu: It's a theory also
[12:41] <iknofailfu> so why am i wrong? lol
[12:41] <histo> iknofailfu: that would take ages just to recover a few bytes
[12:41] <iknofailfu> i don't get it
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> dward: it won't in that case, it will make a new file and populate it with zeros.
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> iknofailfu: read the link
[12:41] <histo> iknofailfu: You are extremely paranoid if you think someone is going to waste 100's of years worht of man hours to look at your silly flash drive to recover your secret porn stash
[12:41] <iknofailfu> ActionParsnip, i could provide some links to you to read
[12:41] <iknofailfu> i am, that doesn't make me wrong
[12:42] <histo> iknofailfu: You are wrong no one is going to do it ever.
[12:42] <wdp> histo, actually, i did.
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> iknofailfu: In the time since this paper was published, some people have treated the 35-pass overwrite technique described in it more as a kind of voodoo incantation to banish evil spirits than the result of a technical analysis of drive encoding techniques. In fact performing the full 35-pass overwrite is pointless for any drive since it targets a blend of scenarios involving all types of (normally-used) encoding technology    by the same 
[12:42] <streulma> hello, there are people here that are using Ubuntu on a Mac ?
[12:42] <histo> iknofailfu: and being a flash drive isn't magnetic. Your statements are really wrong
[12:42] <wdp> histo, bought a used harddisc and i was interested in what was on it before :p
[12:42] <iknofailfu> i never pointed which paper i was talking about
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> iknofailfu: again, read  the link
[12:43] <histo> wdp: Right but it wasn't overwritten with 0's before you looked at it
[12:43] <wdp> right.
[12:43] <wdp> just formatted
[12:43] <iknofailfu> again, i already read all necessary pulp, necessary to make statememnts which won't hurt anyone
[12:43] <histo> wdp: formatting doesn't write 0's to the drive
[12:43] <wdp> i know
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> iknofailfu: think about it, you have more than one person saying its nonsense and you stand there stating it is true based on some 1996 paper by someone who then retracted it....
[12:44] <histo> iknofailfu: That's just being silly.
[12:44] <iknofailfu> ActionParsnip, number of persons is not an argument
[12:44] <streulma> which type to recover? ext4 ?
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> iknofailfu: but the person publishing the paper then saying its baloney is
[12:44] <iknofailfu> histo, same about your naive statements
[12:44] <histo> iknofailfu: neither is an antient research paper that has been retracted
[12:44] <yown> dward "or you can not unmount and run 'dd if=/dev/null of=/where/ever/flashdrive/is/mounted" that didn't work
[12:44] <liooba> hello, I need help about workspaces on Ubuntu 12.04 precise. Since a few days, after an update probably, the workspaces went like *downgraded* a lot. I used a command found on a forum involving gconftools-2 to get 3 by 3 workspaces. now i'm back to 2 x 2 and I don't find how to change it. And I've another issue after that. In short : is it possible to __ roll back__ this update ???
[12:44] <iknofailfu> again, i never pointed which paper i read
[12:44] <yown> "0+0 records in
[12:44] <dward> yown no i messed up
[12:45] <yown> 0+0 records out
[12:45] <iknofailfu> how you argue
[12:45] <yown> 0 bytes (0 B) copied, 4.6243e-05 s, 0.0 kB/
[12:45] <histo> iknofailfu: Really naive I'm a forensics examiner ... huh must be naive with what I do every day I guess
[12:45] <DJones> histo: ActionParsnip iknofailfu Can you move the discussion over into #ubuntu-offtopic, it looks to have gone away from a support issue now
[12:45] <wdp> guys, if i may interrupt your discussion, i think you're going offtopic.
[12:45] <histo> yown: did you use /dev/null or /dev/zero
[12:45] <dward> yown keep it mounted then run dd if=/dev/zero of=/mount/point/emptyfile
[12:45] <iknofailfu> histo, there are different people doing different things that doesn't make you right again
[12:45] <yown> Ok, so what ever write over I use would someone please help me with this mounting issue!
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> iknofailfu: its a famous paper, and retraction. The person who wrote the papr you read (if it wasn't him) probably read that paper
[12:45] <histo> dward: It doesn't need to be mounted
[12:45] <dward> yown nevermind
[12:45] <dward> yown don't do that i guess
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> iknofailfu: if you want to believe falasy then that's your porogative but we stick to the facts here.
[12:46] <dward> yown just unmount and use zerofree , it's easy
[12:46] <iknofailfu> my choice, but the way i believe in things doesn't hurt anyone
[12:46] <histo> yown: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/of/thumb/drive
[12:46] <k610> what should i install to get the missing icons to show in gnome-disk ?
[12:46] <dward> yown either way works
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> iknofailfu: they do when you tell them to people like thay are facts
[12:46] <yown> dward what is that emptyfile bit at the end for?
[12:46] <histo> yown: that will fill the device with zero's  then you have to create a filesystem on it to mount it again
[12:46] <nearst> back, hi ppl
[12:46] <histo> yown: if you used /dev/null as the first suggestion was that won't work.
[12:47] <iknofailfu> ActionParsnip, i consider those things serious enough to take as a fact, you can blame me for being paranoid, but things i say won't make things worse
[12:47] <wdp> usual mistake heh. /dev/null vs /dev/zero
[12:47] <histo> yes
[12:47] <dward> yown it will write a bunch of zeros to an emptyfile on your flashdrive until it is full. it will overwrite anything that was deleted but is still on the disk effectivly shredding your deleted files
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> iknofailfu: multipe writes to a flash based storage will shorten it's life as they have limited write cycles
[12:47] <yown> Does /dev/of/thumb/drive=/dev/sdb1 ?
[12:47] <nearst> :D
[12:48] <iknofailfu> ActionParsnip, so you tell me you believe in write cycles for real?
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> yown: if it is seen as sdb1  then yes, you can use:  sudo parted -l   to double check :)
[12:48] <histo> yown: If /dev/sdb is your drive I would just use /dev/sdb  sdb1 is the partition might as well blow that out. So use /dev/sdb
[12:48] <liooba> write cycles,if any, are maybe a problem if you write hundreds of time... not 3 or 10
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> iknofailfu: yes they exist, they have a lot but wasting them is not constructive
[12:48] <histo> yown: make double sure that it's your device and you are not writing zeros to a hard drive in your machine.
[12:48] <til4k> Is there a way I can tell what permissions a samba share has either with the Nautilus GUI or a command or something?
[12:48] <nearst> yown, usually it automount. sudo mount /dev/<drive> /media/<folder>
[12:49] <dward> histo how does it work if not mounted? it will just overwrite everything. if it's mounted and the output file is specified, it will only overwrite space with unused inodes
[12:49] <iknofailfu> ActionParsnip, this dialog is not constructive as well
[12:49] <dward> histo that's why i thought it would need to be mounted
[12:49] <histo> dward: Because you can write data to a device without it being mounted with dd
[12:49] <lamp2_pingme> i got smoe questions about live-build and ubuntu where is the best place to ask ?
[12:49] <liooba> someone could help me to *roll-back* updates on ubuntu 12.04 precise ? about the new workspaces ...
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> iknofailfu: but teaching you something new, is
[12:49] <histo> dward: YOu mount filesystems not devices
[12:49] <Laiquendi> lamp2_pingme: forum or here
[12:49] <yown> "sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb1" just resulted in a hung command prompt, never went back to regular prompt, and doesn't seem to have caused any writeover
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> til4k: mount it then run:   mount
[12:50] <wdp> histo, you said you're a a forensic examiner, may I pm you for a short talk? (completely unrelated to ubuntu and hence offtopic)
[12:50] <histo> yown: it's writing
[12:50] <iknofailfu> good pupil lol
[12:50] <dward> histo, okay i got you.
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> yown: yes, the dd is running then
[12:50] <histo> yown: it will continue until the end of the disk
[12:50] <yown> but I still see files on the disk
[12:50] <histo> yown: well in your case it will continue untill the end of the partition since you didn't listen
[12:50] <lamp2_pingme> okay
[12:50] <yown> histo listen to what?
[12:51] <dward> lol
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> yown: you will, the mount will show the files as it hasn't been sync'd
[12:51] <yown> how can I know when it is done? Or how it is progressing/how long it will take?
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> yown: you will get the prompt back when it is done
[12:51] <neo1691> Hello World!
[12:51] <Laiquendi> Hello you
[12:51] <iknofailfu> how can i fix the partition table if it is clear that pointing system on them with `addpart` works like a charm?
[12:51] <liooba> someone could help me to *roll-back* updates on ubuntu 12.04 precise ? about the new workspaces ...
[12:51] <yown> So no way to get progress bar info or time estimation?
[12:52] <dward> not really
[12:52] <histo> yown: if your of=/dev/sdb  it will write 0's to the device. The entire device that is regardless of partitions filesystems etc... if your of=/dev/sdb1 then it will write 0's to the filesystem
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> yown: there may be an option on dd but I've never used it
[12:52] <histo> yown: you can get progress hold on
[12:52] <yown> histo I have been listening, I guess I missed or misunderstood, please say again
[12:52] <neo1691> I updated from ubuntu 12.04 to 12.10. My right click menu on the desktop has very few options now. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/25234323/dropdown%20error.png
[12:53] <wdp> yown, dd if=/dev/zero of=/your/disk/to/empty & pid=$!
[12:53] <wdp> yown, kill -USR1 $pid; sleep 1; kill $pid
[12:53] <histo> yown: if you send kill -USR1 to the pid of the running dd it will give you progress
[12:53] <Laiquendi> neo: you only lack New Files
[12:53] <Laiquendi> I mean New Document
[12:53] <histo> yown: in a new terminal ps aux | grep dd  and get the pid number
[12:53] <neo1691> Laiquendi, Which files exactly
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> neo1691: if you make a fresh Ubuntu user and log in, is it the same there?
[12:54] <neo1691> ActionParsnip, I havent tried
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> histo: sudo killall dd         maybe
[12:54] <histo> ActionParsnip: NO
[12:54] <Laiquendi> You lack the menu New Document, which creates documents based on templates in your Template folder in home folder
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> histo: ok, just a random idea
[12:54] <histo> ActionParsnip: to get the status you can send it a -USR1 signal it will print the IO output in progress
[12:54] <neo1691> ActionParsnip, Shall i log in via guest?
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> histo: probably damage the devcie
[12:54] <histo> ActionParsnip: No
[12:54] <histo> ActionParsnip: man dd you will see
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> neo1691: sure, worth a try
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> histo: on it :)
[12:55] <iknofailfu> how can i fix the partition table if it is clear that pointing system on them with `addpart` works like a charm?
[12:55] <histo> ActionParsnip: kill -USR1 pidofdd; sleep 1; kill pidofdd      <---- This will show I/O statistics
[12:55] <yown> histo Ok I ran "ps aux | grep dd" but I am not sure which of the output I got is the pid number you mentioned, or what to do with said number if I were to determine that
[12:56] <histo> yown: the number after the user name is the pid
[12:56] <dward> has anyone played with btrfs or zfs?
[12:56] <histo> yown: you would sudo -i   then type in kill -USR1 ##; sleep 1; kill ##     replace ## with the actual pid number
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> histo: so, what if you kill the process then start another with the extra options?
[12:56] <yown> histo: I see my user name with a number after it, at least twice, and its a different number
[12:56] <histo> yown: the first number
[12:57] <neo1691> ActionParsnip, Same effect
[12:57] <n8w|> hey
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> neo1691: have you ever logged in as guest before?
[12:57] <yown> What a complicated process just to get a status update
[12:57] <neo1691> ActionParsnip, nope
[12:57] <yown> If I mess up on these commands, am I pretty safe from screwing things up?
[12:57] <histo> yown: well that's dd for you.
[12:57] <ioria> dd has a status flag, i think
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> neo1691: try pressing ALT+F2 and run:  nautilus -q
[12:58] <histo> yown: No if you specified the wront /dev/sdx# you just blew out whatever partition you specified. DD is very dangerous in those regards
[12:58] <n8w|> what r the needed permissions for running a cript from rc.local? when i run /etc/ec.local i get permission denied on two of my scripts
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> n8w|: are they marked as executable  (use:  chmod +x /path/to/script)
[12:59] <n8w|> ActionParsnip, ohh ye, i toaly forgot this one...ye i think that will b it
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> n8w|: if you don't mark them executable, you will get no access :)
[12:59] <n8w|> ActionParsnip, u r absolutely right
[13:00] <histo> yown: there are other variants of dd that support an easier way to show progress
[13:00] <yown> But histo, I don't see a "/dev/sdx#" in that command chain
[13:00] <neo1691> ActionParsnip, now all desktop elements have vanished, nothing happens when i right click
[13:01] <dward> What filesystem are you guys using
[13:01] <yown> histo then we should have done those from the start, how do you do em?
[13:01] <histo> yown: /dev/sdb1 <<< if that is not your thumb drive and it's some other partition you just blew it away. That's where people make mistakes
[13:01] <philinux> dward: ext4 still here
[13:01] <histo> yown: How big is the flash drive?
[13:02] <jeetpei> neo1691 : i think your unity crashed
[13:02] <yown> histo 8gb and I meant what you said here "sudo -i then type in kill -USR1 ##; sleep 1; kill ## replace ## with the actual pid number" is there any risk in messing up in that command chain? I don't see a dev/sdx or whatever in it
[13:02] <BluesKaj> dward, yup ext4 still , fooling with other FSs can be fatal for your data
[13:02] <cads> hey, is there anything in 12.10 that makes 12.04 seem very inferior in comparison?
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> neo1691: wait and nautilus will reload
[13:03] <cads> I've installed 12.04 on a client's computer, and I'm thinking of installing here on my computer, too
[13:03] <iknofailfu> how can i fix the partition table if it is clear that pointing system on them with `addpart` works like a charm?
[13:04] <dward> BluesKaj i've been fooling around with ZFS and BTRFS
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> cads: Precise is LTS, wheras quantal isn't
[13:05] <dward> BluesKaj I top out at 1040MB/s with btrfs on my ssd
[13:05] <BluesKaj> dward, I'm assuming the worst of course and your experiments with other File Systems don't involve critical data , personal or otherwise
[13:05] <cads> ActionParsnip: I chose 12.04 because it was an LTS release, but I'm not sure what this means long term
[13:06] <dward> BluesKaj ya, haha i have a funtoo box. for kicks
[13:06] <til4k> i dont know why you guys dont just wippeee it
[13:06] <til4k> back up and wipee the thing
[13:06] <til4k> dont troubleshoot troublenuke get gangsta up in the nix sonn
[13:06] <til4k> sorry
[13:06] <cads> ActionParsnip: my assumption is the look is frozen, but it still gets all the security updates from upstream
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> cads: 5 years support wheras QUantal is 1.5 years
[13:06] <n8w|> ActionParsnip, all good now...thx
[13:06] <dward> BluesKaj it's insanely fast though when it's stable, BTRFS is gonna be awesome
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> cads: Kubuntu and Xubuntu will also be LTS, Lubuntu is not (sadly)
[13:07] <til4k> if ive learned anything from running ubuntu since intrepid ibex -- upgrading is a hairy business
[13:07] <til4k> better to be good about backing up your data so youre ready for a fresh install every 6 mos or whatever
[13:07] <nearst> btrfs have no fsck
[13:07] <parapan> hi there fellows; I have a 500 GB HDD which has bad sectors - I was running fsck from system/Admin/Disk Utility, on 2 partitions it said file system NOT CLEAN; after that I was running sudo badblocks -n /dev/sdc1 and when realized I will take forever i dropped the -n ; however, the result is 1 bad block; on the second partition anyway I have like few  hundred blocks reported; how can I mark those badblocks and use the drive for file 
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> til4k: or run a file server and have no local user data :)
[13:08] <yown> histo 8gb and I meant what you said here "sudo -i then type in kill -USR1 ##; sleep 1; kill ## replace ## with the actual pid number" is there any risk in messing up in that command chain? I don't see a dev/sdx or whatever in it
[13:08] <cads> ActionParsnip: heh, pardon me while I lookup an actual change log instead of trying to deduce how 12.04 differs from 12.10 via a game of 20 questions.
[13:08] <yown> Also, can I make DD write over a partition, rather then a whole drive?
[13:08] <BluesKaj> dward, I don't use SSDs , still running an older pc , but speed isn't real important as long as it all works ok
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> cads: i don't follow
[13:09] <iknofailfu> parapan, if data loss is not a problem, you may want to consider using mhdd tool, it's free and it works, but it's better to try something else before going with this
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> cads: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=what+is+new+in+Quantal   ...?
[13:09] <til4k> ActionParsnip: I interpreted it as .. you gave me a smartass answer instead of answering the question, so now I'll just look at the changelog
[13:09] <cads> ActionParsnip: I'm interested in understanding the differences between the 12.04 and 12.10, so I'm going to google instead of pestering you guys :)
[13:09] <til4k> just trying to be helpful here
[13:09] <cads> yeah, http://askubuntu.com/questions/217184/whats-the-difference-between-12-04-and-12-10 already seems to be helpful
[13:10] <til4k> this is why im a fantastic lurker one comment and im on my way to troubleville
[13:11] <neo1691> ActionParsnip, Still not reloaded
[13:11] <philinux> dward: you might be interested in this discussion. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2112829&highlight=btrfs
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> neo1691: then press ALT+F2 and run:  nautilus
[13:11] <dward> BluesKaj maybe not for personal use but it will for production. ZFS and BTRFS are massively scalable, and that speed is gonna make a big difference
[13:11] <til4k> cads: askubuntu and ubuntuforums are prob better resources than irc, i dont think anyone here would disagree.
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> til4k: use all 3 :)
[13:12] <neo1691> ActionParsnip, Itis just opening the home folder
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> neo1691: but does the desktop work ok now ?
[13:12] <dward> philinux thanks, ill check this out
[13:12] <til4k> and if you get extra bored stop by a linuxmint community forum/channel and try to explain to them theyre just running ubuntu
[13:12] <til4k> they wont believe you
[13:12] <neo1691> ActionParsnip, no
[13:12] <parapan> iknofailfu: what is mhdd doing ?
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> neo1691: just log off and on then, should be ok
[13:13] <neo1691> ActionParsnip, yes infact :P
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> til4k: really, that's funny
[13:13] <neo1691> but still the same old story
[13:13] <til4k> ActionParsnip: the mint kids get militant with that stuff
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> neo1691: maybe that's how it is these days
[13:13] <til4k> theyre prou of their 'superiority' to ubuntu
[13:13] <iknofailfu> parapan, http://hddguru.com/software/2005.10.02-MHDD/mhdd_manual.en.html
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> neo1691: I don't use desktop icons so I wouldn't know
[13:13] <azi`> is there a way to avoid unity from being installed? and be able to choose something more sane like xfce or gnome in the installation phase?
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> til4k: yeh, shame if ubuntu ceases, they will get no updates....d'oh
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> azi`: just grab the xubuntu ISO
[13:14] <parapan> iknofailfu: I can back-up the data, problem is if I format the drive again, the badblocks will still be there and I have to redo the process of marking the bad blocks....is this correct ?
[13:14] <jeetpei> neo1691: can you try CTRL+ALT+T (open terminal ) and unity restart
[13:14] <til4k> azi`: what GUI do you prefer
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> parapan: I suggest you replace the drive
[13:14] <liooba> !quit
[13:15] <azi`> til4k: xfce for example
[13:15] <til4k> azi`: why not xubuntu
[13:15] <azi`> til4k: ActionParsnip it appears to be quite slower then and all
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> azi`: install xubuntu and you will have a slick xfce based OS. You can install xfce4 and log off then log into the xfce session
[13:15] <Physicist> Kubuntu is the best....
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> Physicist: in your opinion
[13:15] <til4k> oh no
[13:15] <til4k> hit the deck
[13:16] <azi`> the thing is that these *ubuntu releases are off the main ubuntu one and quite underdeveloped
[13:16] <til4k> a GUI war is about to break out
[13:16] <iknofailfu> parapan, i got experience using it and it is great at diagnostics the surface and marking badblocks too
[13:16] <til4k> never seen this convo before
[13:16] <ioria> it's true, xubuntu it's not light as xfce is
[13:16] <Physicist> ActionParsnip: Of course... But it is axiomatically.
[13:17] <bilou23> on aptitude, most of my packages are shown twice, the second has the same name but ends with ":i386", which one should I pick?
[13:17] <Physicist> I like it.. KDE is great.
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> ioria: one is a distribution, the other is a desktop environment, they are different so cannot be compared
[13:17] <parapan> ActionParsnip: I do that but I want to use-it like a storage ....marking the bd blocks and writting on the safe side ....
[13:17] <dward> philinux; i'm running funtoo on the box i'm testing on and it has an ssd, so not sure if this applies. I will be wary though.
[13:17] <Physicist> I am using kubuntu in dual boot with Slackware.
[13:17] <llutz> !aptitude | bilou
[13:17] <Physicist> Slack KDE too.
[13:17] <til4k> Physicist: sort of ironic, but goo on ya
[13:17] <parapan> iknofailfu: will it run on a USB attached hdd ?
[13:17] <iciraus> I tried Zorin OS, i was not to impressed truth to be told.
[13:17] <histo> bilou23: Are you running a 64bit system?
[13:18] <til4k> I don't judge another man's distribution like some
[13:18] <Physicist> til4k: Yes... A little.
[13:18] <parapan> iknofailfu: and if you have experience how long should it take on a 500 GB drive ? how much time ?in hours
[13:18] <histo> Physicist: Do you have a ubuntu related question?
[13:18] <ioria> ActionParsnip: i mean, once i installed ubuntu with xfce and then tried xubuntu... the firsty solution was the best, in my case
[13:18] <iknofailfu> parapan, i'm not sure about it, never tried (most probably no)
[13:18] <ActionParsnip> dward: funtoo sounds good, support will be in #gentoo if they don't have their own channel
[13:18] <til4k> Nay, I believe weather widgets were created equal
[13:18] <iknofailfu> parapan, last time it was 1tb, ~36hrs
[13:18] <Physicist> histo: I always have one..
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> ioria: makes sense now :)
[13:19] <Physicist> histo: At times.. actually
[13:19] <b2w> i want to control my computer using gestures using webcam....suggest some softwares for that...
[13:19] <ioria> ^o^
[13:19] <til4k> b2w: you madman
[13:19] <parapan> iknofailfu: damn, the electrical power will match the value of the drive :d
[13:19] <neo1691> jeetpei, unity-restart: command not found
[13:20] <b2w> til4k:what?
[13:20] <iceroot> what is the papckage called which is showing the calendar in unity (right corner) when clicking on the time/date?
[13:20] <til4k> b2w: i'll look for ya
[13:20] <parapan> ActionParsnip: do you have another piece of advice ? what tool should I use for marking the bad sectors ?
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> b2w: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/multi-touch-in-ubuntu-using-a-webcam-and-your-hands-video
[13:20] <dward> ActionParship, ya they do, but the community is a lot smaller. Funtoo is my primary distro, but i used gentoo for years. Ubuntu on the family pcs.
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> parapan: no idea, the only suggestion I have is a new drive
[13:21] <Abhijit> hi. i am using suse. where can i get the ubuntu libreoffice impression slide template?
[13:21] <b2w> Actionparsnip:page not found
[13:21] <til4k> I got out DDG'ed but ActionParsnip
[13:21] <iknofailfu> parapan, i never needed to do it over usb, but i suspect it doesn't have usb drivers, it's old and designed for service purposes (and i doubt that people who use it needed it too)
[13:21] <til4k> I have !bang in my awesome bar and everything :(
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> b2w: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/01/multi-touch-in-ubuntu-using-a-webcam-and-your-hands-video
[13:22] <Physicist> !ati
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> b2w: trying to get round google's search junk (I hate that guff they put on URLs)
[13:22] <til4k> story of my life ubottu
[13:22] <iknofailfu> how can i fix the partition table if it is clear that pointing system on them with `addpart` works like a charm?
[13:22] <parapan> iknofailfu: I don't think so also; is says the mhdd is working directly with the controller ....IDE/SATA .....so i don't think usb is going to do something
[13:22] <Mara> Hello everyone! I`m new here and I was wondering if someone can help me with postgresql install on ubuntu., please..I`m at phase with adminpack
[13:22] <Physicist> !amd
[13:22] <Mara> when using this command: sudo -u postgres psql < /usr/share/postgresql/9.1/extension/adminpack--1.0.sql it says to use "create extension adminpack" ...I did , but still same happens
[13:22] <parapan> ActionParsnip: k, thank you ...
[13:23] <jeetpei> neo1691: sudo service gdm restart
[13:23] <histo> Mara: does adminpack come with postgres?
[13:24] <bilou23> histo: yes, I'm running a 64 bits system
[13:24] <Mara> is installed postgres client, admin and contrib
[13:24] <Physicist> I need some device about how to fix a speed problem in my Kubuntu... Can preload help??
[13:24] <llutz> bilou23: see ubottu hint on aptitude, you shouldn't use it with multiarch, better/more safe to use apt-get
[13:24] <Physicist> So much slow to start..
[13:25] <histo> bilou23: then don't install the i386 packages
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> Physicist: sure, so will setting a lower swappiness value (if you have lots of RAM)
[13:25] <histo> Mara: http://askubuntu.com/questions/184577/postgresql-9-1-adminpack-install
[13:26] <Physicist> ActionParsnip: I have 6GB.. Enough I guess
[13:26] <Mara> histo: I tried that :) but still syas to use create extension adminpack
[13:26] <Mara> histo: and if I do again it says already exists
[13:26] <bilou23> llutz: ok, I use aptitude because I never exactly know packages names but I'm searching, then I guess I can just use it for searching then install it through apt-get?
[13:26] <llutz> bilou23: sure
[13:27] <llutz> bilou23: apt-cache search pattern          might also be userfull for you(so is apt-file)
[13:27] <b2w> how to install ccv?
[13:27] <Mara> histo: but there is a comment on that post you sent and I don`t understand what about superuser ?
[13:27] <bilou23> llutz: ok thx for the tip
[13:27] <llutz> userfull*
[13:27] <llutz> usefull*
[13:27] <llutz> grr
[13:28] <romeoealessia> ciao
[13:28] <histo> Mara: if it already exists then why are you still trying to install it?
[13:28] <iknofailfu> how can i fix the partition table if it is clear that pointing system on them with `addpart` works like a charm? (sorry for the way i'm asking about it)
[13:29] <histo> iknofailfu: yeah that makes no sense.
[13:29] <Mara> histo: the adminpack extension still exists...
[13:29] <histo> iknofailfu: Can you try asking a bit differently
[13:29] <Mara> histo: when trying to install the adminpack--1.0.sql it says again to use create extension...but extension already exists
[13:29] <histo> Mara: Have you check in #ubuntu-server or #postgres  perhaps? they may be able to provide more help.
[13:30] <b2w> join #gesture
[13:30] <histo> s/check/checked
[13:30] <Mara> histo: I will ,thanks
[13:30] <iciraus> Exucse me but what was the command to see what directory am in again?
[13:30] <histo> iciraus: pwd
[13:30] <iknofailfu> histo, that's just my english, there is a drive with two partitions and bsd partition table, so system will never know there are two partitions until i will add them with `addpart`, so speaking plain i need it to be there permanently
[13:30] <iciraus> Thanks :) only got to "pw"
[13:30] <histo> iciraus: print working directory = pwd
[13:30] <romeoealessia> !list
[13:31] <histo> iknofailfu: Are you required to use bsd label partitioning? Or can you convert to something else?
[13:31] <iknofailfu> histo, can i convert it without risk of data loss?
[13:32] <histo> iknofailfu: I don't think anyone can garantee that. Anything could happen.
[13:33] <histo> iknofailfu: So why not backup your data just to be safe.
[13:33] <jeetpei> neo1691: any help ?
[13:33] <iknofailfu> histo, but is it reasonable at least to have a hope about it?
[13:35] <histo> iknofailfu: Why wouldn't you just create a backup to be sure.
[13:35] <histo> it takes minutes and eliminates the possibility of any risk of loss
[13:36] <histo> So no it's not sane to do it without creating a backup. What if the power went out in the process etc...
[13:36] <iknofailfu> i did
[13:36] <histo> iknofailfu: well if you have a backup then convert to something that works.
[13:36] <histo> iknofailfu: or repartition the drive and restore files from backups
[13:37] <iknofailfu> histo, i'm just trying to fix it like it was never broken, not of curiousity, but more like to have at least a tiny bit of experience
[13:37] <tirengarfio> hi, i have just bought a 2560x1440 monitor, when i go to set the resolution, the maximum resolution i can select is 1920x1080.
[13:37] <tirengarfio> here you have the content of /var/log/Xorg.0.log
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[13:38] <til4k> tirengarfio: going to be a video card/driver problem
[13:38] <reuf> i have this astgeriks card: http://www.stocksy.co.uk/articles/Networks/review_x100p_wildcard_fxo_card_from_x100p_com - what kind of software can i use to run asteriks server on i
[13:38] <til4k> the most pesky
[13:38] <nearst> xrandr
[13:39] <tirengarfio> til4k, so what should i do? buy a new video card?
[13:39] <tirengarfio> is it broken mine?
[13:39] <tirengarfio> or it just can not give that resolution?
[13:40] <tirengarfio> 2560x1440
[13:40] <iknofailfu> histo, because everything looks fine but the fact i should always point on partitions manually, and that would be great if i could just fix the partition table(?) so it would always know that partitions actually do exist
[13:49] <VinceThePrince> What's the most easy way to get rid off Unity ? 1) get Ubuntu Server and install nice other GUI 2) Uninstall unity and ... 3) ...?
[13:50] <theadmin> VinceThePrince: Install the Ubuntu version which comes with another desktop. Ubuntu supports 4 desktops officailly: Unity (via Ubuntu), Xfce (via Xubuntu), KDE (via Kubuntu) and LXDE (via Lubuntu)
[13:52] <ActionParsnip> VinceThePrince: just install xfce4 and logoff, then log in to the new session
[13:52] <LaserShark> VinceThePrince, sudo apt-get install lxde
[13:52] <LaserShark> VinceThePrince, for lxde desktop
[13:52] <LaserShark> for gnome-shell do sudo apt-get install gnome-shell
[13:53] <theadmin> Well, if you already have Ubuntu installed then the easiest would be to "sudo apt-get install <whatever you want>"
[13:53] <ioria> poor Unity  ... it's the public enemy n° 1
[13:54] <ActionParsnip> VinceThePrince: if you reinstall later, I suggest you install Xubuntu, Lubuntu or Kubuntu and Unity will not be installed.
[13:54] <VinceThePrince> theadmin, ActionParsnip LaserShark  for now I'm just going to keep on using Ubuntu 10.10 still works like a charm and is blazing fast  out of the Box :)
[13:54] <ActionParsnip> ioria: its a marmite kinda thing
[13:54] <zxxandxxz> i luke pussy
[13:54] <theadmin> VinceThePrince: You can't use that, it's EOL.
[13:54] <ActionParsnip> VinceThePrince: Xubuntu will give a similar feel
[13:55] <LaserShark> ActionParsnip, agreed
[13:55] <LaserShark> Xubuntu (lxde) is your best bet
[13:55] <theadmin> LaserShark: ...Xubuntu is with Xfce
[13:55] <LaserShark> theadmin, wait
[13:55] <LaserShark> i was
[13:55] <VinceThePrince> theadmin, watch me : http://i.imgur.com/FjTS9kX.png  :D
[13:55] <LaserShark> ...under the impression
[13:55] <LaserShark> i've been lied t
[13:56] <VinceThePrince> You know what Ubuntu I liked, the business edition. Not much fuzz installed, clean and simple! :)
[13:56] <theadmin> Bah, Unity's concept of active window is still beyond my understanding, you can have a window that takes up all of your screen, but the top bar still belongs to another one >.<
[13:56] <theadmin> LaserShark: Lxde = Lubuntu. First letter.
[13:56] <Kraln> VinceThePrince: so install the server edition and then put X on?
[13:56] <ActionParsnip> Kraln: install minimal i wouldn't install server
[13:57] <Kraln> well, starting with the server installer, I mean
[13:57] <theadmin> VinceThePrince: Just get Xubuntu as others say, it feels pretty much exactly as the old, pre-Unity Ubuntu
[13:57] <Kraln> it's not like you can't install another window manager after installing ubuntu with unity
[13:57] <VinceThePrince> theadmin, Will look into that :D
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> Kraln: Unity is part of the compiz wm.
[13:58] <Kraln> ActionParsnip: and?
[13:58] <stix> Hi guys. I am installing ubuntu 12.10 on sdb2. Win 7 is located on sda and sdb has an ntfs partition as well. The installer suggests the boot-loader should be installed on sda, which makes sense, because I am booting on that disk. But I don't see grub at all, it just loads win7. I have tried to install the boot-loader on sdb and configure my bios to boot on that, but that also just loads win7. What to do?
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> Kraln: so if you change wm, you will lose unity
[13:58] <Kraln> ActionParsnip: and?
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> Kraln: just clarifying
[13:58] <Kraln> I thought that was the point
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> Kraln: I thought you meant install ubuntu with unity then switch wm
[13:59] <Kraln> "Unity sux, I want XFCE -- let me download XUBUNTU and reinstall" -- no, just install with a regular ubuntu and install xfce...
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> Kraln: both are good
[14:00] <ioria> ActionParsnip: oh... i got it !
[14:00] <chronos> stix?
[14:00] <stix> chronos: yes?
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> stix: if you hold SHIFT at boot, can you select ubuntu?
[14:01] <stix> ActionParsnip: I haven't tried that, but I will now
[14:02] <neo1691> ActionParsnip, Any solution?
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> neo1691: to what?
[14:04] <aboudreault> anyone aware of this error? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1100054 (Error: ParameterIncorrect at TrueCrypt::CoreUnix::MountVolume:443)
[14:04] <neo1691> ActionParsnip, right click problem
[14:04] <stix> ActionParsnip: doesn't work
[14:04] <aboudreault> I can't mount my encrypted disk :/
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> neo1691: no idea dude, sorry
[14:05] <neo1691> ActionParsnip, if i click on change desktop background, I get to see global settings, not change desktop dialogue
[14:06] <iknofailfu> everything looks fine but the fact i should always point on partitions manually with `addpart`, and that would be great if i could just fix the partition table(?) so it would always know that partitions actually do exist, any hints?
[14:08] <chuothungbang96> có ai là người việt nam ở đây hông
[14:08] <chuothungbang96> huhu
[14:09] <theadmin> iknofailfu: You can try with testdisk.
[14:10] <theadmin> Not sure if the problem is an actually corrupted partition table, but if it is, then yeah that'll fix it
[14:15] <newbie-5th-day> when i type the command ' apt-get install package '  it download the package then install it !   how can i delete this package after the install ? i'm booting from a 8Go flash and i need everything about deleting Unessasary  data :)
[14:15] <JoseeAntonioR> newbie-5th-day: you can use 'sudo apt-get remove package', and
[14:16] <JoseeAntonioR> newbie-5th-day: 'sudo apt-get purge package' to remove the package + config files, the other one removes only the package
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> newbie-5th-day: sudo apt-get clean    will remove the old debs
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> newbie-5th-day: if you have RAM to spare, you can use tempfs and put your browser cache there and use less of the flash as well as make browsing faster
[14:21] <jdukiet> I was given a magicjack. Did a quick search with google, and i'm not interested in running "virtualbox" since I dual boot windows 7. Has anyone had any experience with this issue? I'm running 12.04 LTS.
[14:22] <newbie-5th-day> JoseeAntonioR: any troubles if i remove the config files ??
[14:22] <newbie-5th-day> ActionParsnip:  can u be more specific .. as u see my 5th day in ubuntu :)
[14:23] <JoseeAntonioR> newbie-5th-day: no, if you won't use the package. if you want to use it again, you'll have to configure it again
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> newbie-5th-day: run:  sudo apt-get clean    and the old debs you used to install with will go
[14:25] <superman> hei is it hard to install clean irssi on ubuntu?
[14:25] <theadmin> superman: sudo apt-get install irssi
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> superman: ^
[14:25] <superman> ok
[14:25] <nn0101> irssi is horrible
[14:25] <superman> ahah
[14:26] <theadmin> Opinions go elsewhere, this channel is for support.
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> nn0101: its crazy flexible :)
[14:28] <newbie-5th-day> ActionParsnip:  apt-get remove ...    uninstall the whole  package !!!!! i have to install it again  ! and i want just delete the .deb file
[14:29] <nearst> nn0101, irssi is good irc anyway
[14:29] <theadmin> newbie-5th-day: Then use "sudo apt-get clean"
[14:29] <superman> when i use ubuntu i feel better
[14:29] <superman> i use win8 on my pc but i love ubuntu more
[14:29] <nearst> superman, define better? :)
[14:30] <newbie-5th-day> yeah .. all i need is "sudo apt-get clean"
[14:30] <newbie-5th-day> thX
[14:30] <seednode> Eh, I like Win8 more
[14:30] <superman> ok
[14:30] <seednode> Honestly, it's more responsive than Ubuntu on this laptop
[14:30] <seednode> But to each their own
[14:30] <theadmin> newbie-5th-day: You can also use "sudo apt-get autoclean", which will only clean out old package versions, which are now entirely useless, but current ones will be kept in cache because you may want to reinstall them.
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> newbie-5th-day: that's what I said.....
[14:31] <superman> what do you think about IBM lenovo laptop is it good?
[14:31] <seednode> superman, which one in particular?
[14:31] <iknofailfu> superman, my subjective opinion is against lenovo products
[14:31] <newbie-5th-day> ActionParsnip: yeah sorry  i misunderstood you x)
[14:32] <seednode> I personally own many older IBM/Lenovo Thinkpads, and they're great
[14:32] <seednode> However
[14:32] <seednode> Recent ones aren't nearly as nice, and are fairly expensive for the specs
[14:32] <nn0101> ActionParsnip: nearst ;)
[14:32] <superman> but HP is bad
[14:32] <seednode> Hey now
[14:32] <superman> what about ASUS?
[14:33] <seednode> HP's enterprise line isn't bad
[14:33] <seednode> ASUS has decent "gaming laptops", but as a general rule I'm against such things
[14:33] <DJones> !ot | seednode superman
[14:33] <seednode> Sorry
[14:33] <nearst> hehe. finally ot
[14:33] <seednode> superman, hop onto ##hardware to discuss this
[14:33] <superman> ok
[14:34] <blackem_> anyone know to stop zte mf192 from switching to hspa+ automatically,
[14:34] <seednode> Though, once again, you can always bring it up earlier, instead of waiting 5 minutes THEN saying it's off-topic
[14:34] <theadmin> Will ddrescue (GNU version) copy the entire partition, or only "filled" parts of it to the target file?
[14:35] <iknofailfu> #ubuntu-offtopic =)
[14:35] <waffles881> does anyone have any idea how to use pyserial to set custom baudrates? is this an issue with ubuntu or just linux kernel in general?
[14:36] <seednode> theadmin, I'm fairly certain it copies the whole partition
[14:36] <theadmin> seednode: Alright, thanks. Geez, 300GB of data, only 60 of it is actual, uh, data. But I suppose it makes sense, such lowlevel tools aren't aware of the filesystem specifics.
[14:37] <VinceThePrince> if I upgrade from 10.10 to 12.04 (?) will it install stuff and delete my current settings etc?
[14:37] <nearst> VinceThePrince, do-release-upgrade will handle it nicely
[14:38] <theadmin> VinceThePrince: Applications you installed and your data/settings will not be untouched. But the default apps from 12.04 will be installed.
[14:38] <theadmin> err, will be untouched
[14:38] <theadmin> -not
[14:38] <nsahoo> hi .. running 12.10, getting 100% cpu usage by xorg today and mouse cursor is stuck. What can I do?
[14:38] <DJones> VinceThePrince: It should just upgrade the o/s and the packages you've installed and keep your current settings assuming you go from 10.10 -> 11.04 -> 11.10 -> 12.04) You can't go directly from 10.10 to 12.04 as 10.10 wasn't an LTS version
[14:39] <theadmin> Yeah that's a long trip, I'd reinstall keeping the same /home
[14:40] <VinceThePrince> theadmin, so it will install unity during the upgrade process? Can I upgrade to Xubuntu from Ubuntu 10.10 ? Since I have so much stuff Installed that I don't to do a clean install
[14:40] <nearst> nsahoo, try sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg then reboot.
[14:40] <theadmin> !purexfce | VinceThePrince, do this before upgrading.
[14:41] <iknofailfu> guys, i have a problem, however everything looks fine but the fact i should always point on partitions manually with `addpart`, and that would be great if i could just fix the partition table(?) so it would always know that partitions actually do exist, any hints?
[14:41] <VinceThePrince> theadmin, I do that and afterwards 'sudo apt-get upgrade xubuntu' or ?
[14:42] <theadmin> VinceThePrince: Err, this is for 12.10, for 10.10 the instructions are: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfcemaverick
[14:42] <theadmin> VinceThePrince: ...oh, wait, that's impossible now because 10.10 is EOL. You'll have to do that after the upgrade
[14:42] <VinceThePrince> theadmin, I'm lost :D what do I have to do first :p
[14:43] <theadmin> VinceThePrince: Alright, first launch the update process: sudo do-release-upgrade
[14:43] <nearst> up can do release upgrade then install xfce, logout and login into xfce wim
[14:43] <theadmin> VinceThePrince: Next, after that's done, follow the instructions at http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce
[14:44] <VinceThePrince> theadmin, first going to do a prayer for this to work
[14:45] <theadmin> VinceThePrince: It normally works fine... An upgrade did fail on me once, but a propretiary driver was at fault (it's newer version no longer supported my graphics card :/)
[14:46] <mad__> I would like to use Samba4 with ubuntu 12.04 LTS. There is an samba-4.0.0-alpha - will this be updated soon? Or is there some ppa for samba4 ?
[14:47] <theadmin> Still though, can someone explain why upgrading is only possible from one release to the next one of the same branch? As in, why is 10.10 -> 12.04 not possible directly? Why do they make us go through hoops?
[14:48] <Atlantic778> How to set system wide proxy from console? I need it for irc (irssi). http_proxy env variable didn't help.
[14:49] <theadmin> Atlantic778: It's HTTP_PROXY, not http_proxy
[14:49] <Atlantic778> theadmin: ah, that makes sense.
[14:51] <theadmin> Atlantic778: ...But that is the HTTP proxy. irssi doesn't use http.
[14:52] <An_Ony_Moose> Atlantic778: what kind of proxy? SOCKS?
[14:52] <Atlantic778> An_Ony_Moose: i think it's normal http proxy.
[14:52] <Atlantic778> theadmin: can I use irssi through http proxy somehow? :/
[14:52] <imran2> does any one have any solution to system wide implementation of mouse wheel scrolling speed vertically ????
[14:53] <theadmin> Atlantic778: Uhm, I don't think you could. You can try defining ALL_PROXY and let it figure it out, though
[14:53] <nearst> is there a problem using sasl/tor with irssi ? :)
[14:54] <theadmin> nearst: I think this proxy is something the ISP/organization requires, not an anonymizer.
[14:54] <Atlantic778> theadmin: that's what I was looking for. Thanks. I'll try.
[14:55] <nearst> export http_proxy to .bashrc ?
[14:56] <theadmin> Atlantic778: Also, I suggest using this instead, it's irssi-specific, may be better: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Irssi#HTTP_Proxy
[14:56] <Jan_> Is VT-D or Virtio faster on KVM with networking?
[14:56] <ameliaaaaa> olaaa
[14:58] <nsahoo> hi .. xorg is using 100% cpu today, running ubuntu 12.10. I did try "dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xor" and restarted. Still the same problem.
[14:58] <imran2> does any one have any solution to system wide implementation of mouse wheel scrolling speed vertically ????
[14:58] <VinceThePrince> theadmin, "sudo do-release-upgrade" not working do you mean "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" ?
[14:59] <Atlantic778> theadmin: nah, it looks like it's blocked by proxy. :/
[15:00] <nsahoo> any idea, why this is happening?
[15:00] <nsahoo> xorg at 100% mouse cursor stuck?
[15:01] <nearst> using unity?
[15:01] <theadmin> VinceThePrince: No, "apt-get dist-upgrade" just upgrades packages. I mean do-release-upgrade.
[15:01] <nsahoo> yes.
[15:01] <iknofailfu> guys, i have a problem, however everything looks fine but the fact i should always point on partitions manually with `addpart`, and that would be great if i could just fix the partition table(?) so it would always know that partitions actually do exist, any hints?
[15:01] <nsahoo> this is happening as soon as the machine starts
[15:02] <nearst> nsahoo, try nomodeset at grub? or use lightweight de ?
[15:05] <Quest> how to clear history so that the 'history' command dont shows anythign?
[15:05] <VinceThePrince> theadmin, upgrade in progress. "Knock on wood"
[15:06] <DJones> Quest: In a terminal window? "history -c"
[15:06] <nearst> Quest, echo "" > .bash_history ?
[15:08] <Quest> DJones,  yes
[15:08] <VinceThePrince> theadmin, errors: http://pastie.org/6334263
[15:09] <Quest> how to clear history so that the 'history' command dont shows anything? and if I do something, like delete a file or so, what are the locations/ logs/ commands that record that activity?
[15:10] <DJones> Quest: As I put above "history -c"
[15:10] <VinceThePrince> theadmin, should I try to upgrade via the update manager?
[15:10] <Quest> DJones,  its only recorded in history? no other places?
[15:10] <theadmin> VinceThePrince: Probably.
[15:10] <llutz> Quest: or simply ">~/.bash_history"  (that is the file holding that info if you use bash)
[15:11] <Quest> llutz,  ">~/.bash_history"  and history -c will result in same resutls?
[15:11] <DJones> Quest: Don't know if its recorded elsewhere, I've just run the command on my machine and cleared the history for me
[15:11] <llutz> Quest: yes
[15:11] <Quest> ok
[15:11] <Quest> DJones, llutz  any thing on system logs?
[15:12] <nearst> why need to clear all logs ? :)
[15:12] <Quest> nearst,  to clear up traces
[15:12] <serp_> porn
[15:12] <theadmin> Quest: The bash history is stored in ~/.bash_history
[15:13] <Quest> theadmin,  in the home folder i gues?
[15:13] <ubinux> hi @ all
[15:13] <theadmin> Quest: ~ refers to your home folder.
[15:13] <nearst> cd && cat .bash_history
[15:13] <Quest> theadmin,  ">~/.bash_history"
[15:13] <Quest> $ cd .bash_history
[15:13] <Quest> bash: cd: .bash_history: Not a directory
[15:13] <theadmin> Quest: That is not a directory, it's a file.
[15:14] <UbuPhillup> cat .bash_history
[15:14] <bez> hi
[15:14] <Quest> theadmin,  oh ok. so clearing history -c and rm .bash_history      would be suffice or do i need to do that in any other place too?
[15:14] <VinceThePrince> theadmin, I have to upgrade via CD can't I just push in the Xubuntu CD and upgrade from that CD or do I have to download the 11.04 Ubuntu CD and upgrade to that?
[15:15] <bez> what can I do on ubuntu?
[15:15] <theadmin> VinceThePrince: You can't jump releases, so you can use 11.04, but you need to use the alternate CD
[15:15] <theadmin> bez: Anything.
[15:15] <awktion_> bez: what do you like to do with your computer?
[15:15] <bez> play on lol
[15:16] <theadmin> bez: Ubuntu probably isn't the best choice for gaming yet, most games are Windows-only so far :(
[15:16] <awktion_> http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1946188
[15:16] <bez> i have lol on ubuntu
[15:16] <llutz> DJones: history -c clears the actual history, but not the ~/.bash_history file
[15:16] <awktion_> ok, then what did you mean 'what can i do on ubuntu' ?
[15:16] <bez> but i have drop fps
[15:16] <awktion_> ah
[15:16] <theadmin> bez: Well, that's fairly obvious, WINE isn't as fast as a pure Windows environment. Can't help that.
[15:17] <DJones> llutz: Cheers, I'd only ever needed to use the command
[15:17] <awktion_> you might try the #winehq chan
[15:17] <kepin_kepan> Can I install backtrack utilities in ubuntu?
[15:17] <awktion_> sorry #wine
[15:17] <nearst> VinceThePrince, try look at /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[15:17] <awktion_> kepin_kepan: yes
[15:17] <Quest> theadmin,  oh ok. so clearing history -c and rm .bash_history      would be suffice or do i need to do that in any other place too?
[15:17] <theadmin> awktion_: It's #winehq :P
[15:17] <awktion_> check apt or synaptic
[15:17] <Quest> llutz,  DJones  ^
[15:17] <theadmin> awktion_: #wine is some weird invite-only channel
[15:18] <awktion_> ah irssi was lagging
[15:18] <awktion_> somehow i got in lol
[15:18] <nearst> #winehq
[15:18] <theadmin> Quest: Yes, those two are enough
[15:18] <Kentrel> Steam is available on Ubuntu now. I've played FTL and Team Fortress, and they work brilliantly
[15:18] <Quest> theadmin,  what about system logs?
[15:18] <llutz> Quest: /var/log/auth.log if you used sudo-commands
[15:18] <DJones> Quest: Go with what llutz is saying, I've only used the history -c command
[15:18] <Kentrel> According to Valve, Linux is faster for gaming due to the optimized kernel
[15:18] <theadmin> Quest: There's no real log that keeps track of commands
[15:19] <theadmin> Kentrel: They're native, though, but windows apps won't run as fast as they do on Windows
[15:19] <nearst> /var/log should have all system logs
[15:19] <Quest> theadmin,  what about /var/log/auth.log  as llutz  says
[15:19] <Kentrel> true, but I don't notice the speed. MS Office runs quickly
[15:19] <theadmin> Quest: That keeps tracks of authentications, not commands...
[15:19] <bez> I updated my ubuntu and kernel and ubuntu slow down
[15:19] <theadmin> Kentrel: That's just because it's a simple app. Try running any game.
[15:19] <Kentrel> Portal 2 runs nicely in Wine
[15:20] <llutz> theadmin: really? "Feb 24 11:26:40 xxxxx sudo:     lutz : TTY=pts/1 ; PWD=/home/lutz ; USER=root ; COMMAND=/usr/sbin/hddtemp /dev/sdb"
[15:20] <theadmin> llutz: ...well, yesh, it keeps track of the commands that are ran with sudo, but not just any commands, was what I meant to say.
[15:20] <Quest> theadmin,  ok
[15:22] <|MS|DjFlyBy> today when I try to 'mount -a' I am getting an error for one of my drives. It is telling me to "run chkdsk -f on windows then reboot twice". My question is how does one do this when there is no "Windows" to be used?? Any suggestions please.
[15:22] <Quest> theadmin,  is there a way to delete all auth or every  log i should say? one command solution"
[15:22] <Quest> ?
[15:22] <theadmin> Quest: Not really, there's no universal place for all teh logs. Some apps log to files under your home directory, some to /var/log, some may even have something under ~/.config/
[15:22] <fetzbeast> ich bin der banker dein leben schenker und lenker
[15:23] <fetzbeast> manchmal auch der henker
[15:23] <llutz> !de | fetzbeast und du bist hier falsch
[15:23] <manners13> hey guys im trying to install sogo via apt-get but i keep getting "Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages" can anyone help?
[15:23] <theadmin> fetzbeast: Es ist uns egal. Das ist der Ubuntu support-channel, nur fuer Ubuntu Support-Fragen.
[15:23] <theadmin> fetzbeast: Also, nur in English.
[15:23] <fetzbeast> sry
[15:23] <fetzbeast> wrong chanel
[15:23] <bez> HENDE HOCH
[15:23] <llutz> no off-topic nonsense in any language
[15:24] <fetzbeast> was jole for frend
[15:24] <fetzbeast> i will speak englisch promoting your chanel and youpornig in backgrround
[15:25] <manners13> anyone?
[15:25] <jeremy> test
[15:25] <theadmin> manners13: Do you have any held packages, indeed? If not, run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -f install && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[15:26] <theadmin> manners13: If  you did hold some packages, may be best to unhold them now
[15:26] <Quest> theadmin,  the system logs are all in /var/log ?
[15:26] <theadmin> Quest: Systemwide ones, yes
[15:26] <Kentrel> manners13, use aptitude. It will then give you an option to resolve the dependencies
[15:26] <mad_> I would like to use Samba4 with ubuntu 12.04 LTS. There is an samba-4.0.0-alpha - will this be updated soon? Or is there some ppa for samba4 ?
[15:26] <manners13> how do i know if they are held?
[15:26] <Quest> theadmin,  thanks!
[15:26] <theadmin> manners13: dpkg --get-selections | grep hold
[15:26] <Kentrel> manners13, keep cycling through the options you get until you get one that works. It will probably ask you to downgrade a package or two
[15:26] <zajca> hi guys i need some X help. I have touch screen panel and I want to use it in xbmc, which i want to start at system start. So i created autostart for xbmc but when it started mutitouch is not working. only when multitouch works is when i started terminal and start it from there. Othewise not
[15:27] <Kentrel> sudo apt-get install aptitude
[15:27] <zteam> Hi!
[15:27] <Kentrel> then use it like apt-get
[15:27] <theadmin> Kentrel: Please do not use Aptitude. It has no multiarch support and will break 64-bit environments.
[15:27] <|MS|DjFlyBy> anyone able to help please?
[15:27] <DJones> !aptitude | Kentrel
[15:27] <zteam> I need to add use software from multiverse and universe repository from a usb-key
[15:28] <zteam> how do I do that?
[15:28] <Kentrel> theadmin, it fixed all the problems apt-get created for me, and I'm on 64bit
[15:28] <theadmin> zteam: file:// URLs are supported as APT sources, so just add the path like that in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/local.list
[15:29] <theadmin> zteam: e.g. file:///media/myusb/repo/ precise universe multiverse
[15:29] <theadmin> zteam: Err, deb file:///media/myusb/repo/ precise universe multiverse # That's more like it.
[15:30] <theadmin> Kentrel: Meaning you are either using some very old release, or just are very lucky.
[15:30] <Kentrel> I'm on 12.10
[15:30] <theadmin> Kentrel: Then you're very lucky.
[15:31] <theadmin> !wfm | Kentrel
[15:31] <Kentrel> Well
[15:31] <Kentrel> When I had the problem I joined here and #kde, and nobody had a solution
[15:31] <Kentrel> So I did what worked to get my system back
[15:32] <theadmin> Kentrel: Well, I'm glad it works for you, but again, do not recommend something that's known to cause problems to others.
[15:32] <Kentrel> lol
[15:32] <nearst> !kubuntu
[15:32] <fetzbeast_> doch
[15:32] <Kentrel> That's a broad statement. Everything with linux causes problems for somebody
[15:32] <fetzbeast_> nein
[15:32] <fetzbeast_> du bist klein
[15:33] <Kentrel> He has the option to look at the packages being removed and decide no
[15:33] <Taonas> Quick question; I brought a new USB HDD to replace an old one; I'm using rsync to copy from the old to the new; it started @ 15mbps and now is at 1mbps... Is there a better command to use for the sync?
[15:33] <llutz> fetzbeast_: es reicht
[15:33] <woo> !en | fetzbeast_
[15:33] <zajca> hi guys i need some X help. I have touch screen panel and I want to use it in xbmc. But xbmc start only from terminal with touchscreen working. Only when touchscreen works is when it's started from terminal
[15:33] <DJones> fetzbeast_: Stop that, this isn't the place
[15:33] <jhutchins_wk> Tantor: Which options did you specify
[15:33] <jhutchins_wk> ?
[15:34] <Tantor> huh?
[15:34] <Tantor> Where?
[15:34] <lix> Good day. Is it necessary to encrypt the home folder on a system where LVM encryption is already set?
[15:34] <theadmin> lix: Well, if you'd like to take an extra security step, maybe. But generally speaking, no, it's not.
[15:34] <Taonas> jhutchins_wk: rsync --ignore-existing -stats --archive --no-perms --recursive -v --progress /mnt/old /mnt/new
[15:35] <lix> theadmin: thanks!
[15:35] <steven____> hey all
[15:36] <lix> theadmin: if I have a second physical disc which I would like to encrypt as well. do I use fdisk first, then mkfs, then cryptsetup? or the other way?
[15:36] <c2tarun> there is no /etc/skel/.bashrc in Ubuntu 12.04.2 :(
[15:36] <c2tarun> can anyone please help me in restoring my .bashrc file
[15:36] <theadmin> c2tarun: It would be pointless to have one since there's a global bashrc file in /etc/bash.bashrc
[15:37] <c2tarun> theadmin, so you mean I can replace .bashrc with bash.bashrc
[15:37] <klrr> why does ubuntu promote usage of dbus? (well it doesnt officially promote it, but having the init system depending on it seems a bit overkill, pipes and sockets are enough ipc for a init system IMO)
[15:37] <theadmin> c2tarun: You can remove ~/.bashrc and then the systemwide one will be used.
[15:37] <llutz> c2tarun: that makes even less sense at all
[15:37] <manners13> hi the admin
[15:38] <manners13> hi theadmin, i tried that and the commnad dpkg --get-selections | grep hold comes back with nothing
[15:38] <theadmin> manners13: Good, then just do the "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -f install && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" thing. If it doesn't work, we'll keep looking.
[15:38] <manners13> yeah that dont work lol
[15:39] <c2tarun> llutz, theadmin, I am not able to see any colors in my terminal window, I actually mounted separate partition over /home and that partition don't have .bashrc. That is my problem, how can I get .bashrc?
[15:39] <theadmin> klrr: Eh. Ubuntu is a majorly graphical distribution. Pretty much any DE nowadays needs DBus to work properly. So, why not?
[15:40] <theadmin> c2tarun: You don't really need one...
[15:40] <c2tarun> theadmin, then how can I restore color in my terminal? I mean default color theme
[15:40] <|MS|DjFlyBy> today when I tried to 'mount -a' I am getting an error for one of my drives. It's telling me to "run chkdsk -f on windows then reboot twice". How do I do this when there is no "Windows" to be used?? Any suggestions please.
[15:40] <theadmin> c2tarun: Um, I'm pretty sure Ubuntu doesn't have any colors by default. Am I wrong?
[15:41] <tk___> q
[15:41] <theadmin> |MS|DjFlyBy: sudo ntfsck /dev/<whatever drive gives you the error>
[15:41] <c2tarun> theadmin, at least on ls folders are in blue :(
[15:41] <klrr> theadmin: since dbus is totally piece of shit, not only is it unnecessary(well stupid idiot gnome devs might made it impossible to write gtk apps without dbus, what do i know?) but it also sucks, it's slow and bloated and it makes program crash and is a hell for developers since its api sucks, what's wrong with sockets and pipes, or at least redisigning dbus to be useful?
[15:42] <manners13> http://pastebin.com/uEr0MfTk
[15:42] <|MS|DjFlyBy> theadmin: thanks
[15:42] <llutz> c2tarun: this is a default 12.10 ~/.bashrc https://gist.github.com/llutz/5030682   use it if you liek
[15:42] <manners13> that the error i get when i use pat-get install sogo
[15:42] <llutz> like
[15:42] <manners13> pat/apt
[15:42] <theadmin> klrr: Ubuntu can't... "re-design" dbus, that'd be too much of a compatibility breaker, you know. Also, please watch your language. Anyway, the kernel developers are working on creating a dbus replacement that will be part of kernel, so we just have to wait for that.
[15:43] <klrr> theadmin: oh great, now also put something in the kernel, well at least they are real programmers
[15:43] <klrr> oh great->sarcasm
[15:44] <c2tarun> llutz, that worked great :) thanks a lot
[15:45] <klrr> i dont get how ubuntu's developers can accept such shitty software as dbus in their distribution, sad how developers accept bloated software, simple true software that follow the unix philosphy is the best
[15:45] <theadmin> klrr: http://archlinux.org <- there you go.
[15:46] <theadmin> klrr: Now, please stop being offtopic. This channel is for support.
[15:46] <klrr> theadmin: lol archlinux uses systemd, it's even worse man
[15:47] <seednode> Never change, #ubuntu
[15:47] <klrr> there's just no sane way to use Unix nowdays, plan9 ftw
[15:47] <ubunto> kirr: i find unity more bloated than anything else. it makes my netbook crawl.
[15:47] <theadmin> k1l_: Thanks.
[15:47] <klrr> was i kicked?
[15:48] <k1l_> !guidelines | klrr
[15:49] <manners13> is tehre anything else i can try
[15:49] <klrr> okey, didnt no it was against the rules to question why ubuntu uses bad software in its distribution
[15:49] <manners13> there
[15:49] <katronix> Hi all, if you have ns1/ns2 on one server and ns3/ns4 on another server anything special you have to do, to make the ns3/4 work?
[15:49] <k1l_> klrr: last warning: stop that ranting and flaming. stick to technical ubuntu support issues in here. thanks
[15:50] <c2tarun> is there anything I can remove from /etc/xdg/autostart   http://paste.ubuntu.com/5565014/     I already removed bluetooth and printer. Is jockey-gtk.desktop necessary?
[15:50] <klrr> k1l_: yes i will, still sad this is even called "flaming/ranting" (except the unrespectful words i used ofc)
[15:50] <theadmin> c2tarun: Shouldn't be, it checks for extra drivers availability
[15:50] <Taonas> What's the best way to copy 2TB of files from one USB drive to another?
[15:51] <Guest35> Ho can helpme with office 2010 an wine
[15:51] <c2tarun> theadmin, ok, and what is zeitgeist-datahub?
[15:51] <k1l_> Guest35: best way is to ask the wine guys:
[15:52] <theadmin> c2tarun: You better keep that if you want Unity search to work
[15:52] <theadmin> Guest35: Try #winehq
[15:52] <k1l_> !wine | Guest35
[15:52] <Guest35> here is nobody on het winehq channel
[15:53] <c2tarun> Guest35, really? I can see 208 people.
[15:53] <theadmin> Guest35: There's a ton of people there all the time, but you may need to register to be able to access that channel. Please go to #freenode for help with that.
[15:54] <Guest35> theadmin, im on that channel
[15:54]  * bean__ only sees Guest35 on #ubuntu
[15:55] <theadmin> Guest35: You've only joined #ubuntu, not #freenode nor #winehq
[15:55] <llutz> odd, i see Guest35 in #winehq aswell
[15:55] <Guest35> how can i joind #winehq
[15:55] <llutz> Guest35: you already did
[15:56] <bean__> i see him in there as well, now
[15:56] <Guest35> llutz can you help me
[15:56] <bean__> hmm
[15:56] <llutz> Guest35: no i don't use wine
[16:04] <kirk601> any brand of SSD i should stay away from?
[16:05] <DJones> kirk601: ##hardware will probably be able to give you more information on that
[16:05] <kirk601> DJones: thanks
[16:05] <kirk601> dont see anyone in #hardware
[16:06] <DJones> kirk601: ##hardware
[16:06] <manners13> ok now got it to this but cant seem to get past it  sogo : Depends: libmemcached6 (>= 0.44) but it is not installable
[16:06] <manners13> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[16:06] <DJones> Note the double #
[16:06] <kirk601> DJones: didn't notice that, or know there was a difference
[16:07] <Guest35> what version is ubuntu 12.04
[16:07] <stickDeath> Guest35: its 12.04 :D
[16:07] <genii-around> Guest35: Precise Pangolin
[16:07] <tux_> Guest35, Precise
[16:08] <c2tarun> each time I reboot I have to load modules for my touchpad as mentioned in this thread :( http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1971196   How can I fix this?
[16:08] <Guest35> thnax
[16:08] <tux_> c2tarun, add them to your /etc/modules ?
[16:09] <c2tarun> tux_, there is no folder like /etc/modules is it strange?
[16:09] <tux_> you mean no file ?
[16:10] <tux_> c2tarun, do a, cat /etc/modules
[16:11] <tux_> or cd into /etc/ and 'cat modules' if possible
[16:14] <Fuzzles> just did some test with unity and kde and im suprised to say the kde devs have out done them selves
[16:15] <DJones> w 23
[16:17] <jhutchins_wk> Fuzzles: I must say they have.  After nearly ten years of loyal use they drove me to xfce.
[16:17] <manners13> hmm still no joy
[16:17] <manners13> why all of sudden is it getting this dependancy error
[16:18] <Fuzzles> jhutchins_wk, how come?
[16:19] <heth> Hi. Where I can find 12.10 DVD iso?
[16:20] <meLon> Is it possible to create a desktop launcher on DISPLAY=:0.1 vs 0.0 ?
[16:20] <|MS|DjFlyBy> theadmin: I get a ntfsck does not exist
[16:20] <mussa> join #linuxac
[16:20] <heth> Hi. Where I can find Ubuntu 64bit 12.10 DVD iso?
[16:21] <meLon> heth: http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.10/ubuntu-12.10-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.10/ubuntu-12.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[16:21] <tgm4883> meLon, neither of those would be the DVD
[16:21] <meLon> heth: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/alternative-downloads
[16:21] <heth> meLon, yea but that's not the DVD?
[16:22] <Fuzzles> ubuntu dont have dvd versions all small enought for cd
[16:22] <meLon> ^
[16:22] <heth> meLon, tgm4883, I don't see a DVD link in the Alternate downloads section
[16:22] <|MS|DjFlyBy> today when I tried to 'mount -a' I am getting an error for one of my drives. It's telling me to "run chkdsk -f on windows then reboot twice". How do I do this when there is no "Windows" to be used?? Any suggestions please.
[16:22] <Fuzzles> the only DVD ubuntu based distro that is over cd is kubuntu
[16:23] <heth> Fuzzles, since when is that?
[16:23] <meLon> heth: You don't need DVD, sir, they don't exist.  If you need more functionality on install (like luks), use Alternative Download
[16:23] <DJones> heth: Fuzzles The desktop install iso no longer fits on a cd, they're all too big now, its either a dvd or usb install
[16:23] <meLon> Yeah, DJones explanation is more accurate
[16:23] <heth> DJones, Aha. so no more separate CD / DVD editions
[16:24] <npf_> quich question I am moving folders that are subfolders of A C B D .... using the following mv /media/backup/A/ /media/backup ther are random folders unders the A folder that I ned to move how do I do so
[16:24] <heth> I wonder why they don't use more space then :) since they can go up to few GBs
[16:24] <manners13> right tried aptitude as well which appears to install an older version of sogo
[16:24] <WBF> My microsoft wireless notebook optical mouse is not working and reports itself as a GreenAsia Inc. MaxFire Blaze2.
[16:24] <|MS|DjFlyBy> I tried to 'sudo ntfsck /dev/sdq' but I get 'ntfsck not found'
[16:24] <tgm4883> heth, it's to keep the devs from just including a bunch of bloat. eg. to keep it lean
[16:24] <DJones> heth: I'm not sure if the dvd version still exists though, as far as I can remember the only difference between the old cd & dvd iso's was extra language packs in the dvd iso
[16:25] <Fuzzles> DJones, the ubuntu iso is 763mb my bad i forget cds are only 700
[16:25] <heth> tgm4883, yea sounds a good idea
[16:25] <heth> DJones, really? So that double size was only languages?
[16:25] <davlaps> hey folks..
[16:26] <kirk601> hiya davlaps
[16:26] <Fuzzles> whats the difference between kubuntus cd and dvd version?
[16:26] <davlaps> hi kirk601!
[16:26] <davlaps> i'm looking to deploy ubuntu on dell rack servers.
[16:27] <davlaps> can anyone tell me which of their current servers support 12.04 or 12.10?
[16:27] <dr_willis> 12.10 is only a dvd now.
[16:27] <meLon> sweet davlaps! You going with 12.04 (LTS) Server?
[16:27] <davlaps> i would love to meLon!
[16:27] <meLon> davlaps: 12.04 is LONG TERM SUPPORT. Many people would recommend you use this vs 12.10
[16:27] <tgm4883> davlaps, i'd probably use 12.04.2
[16:27] <davlaps> just need to find compatible hardware.
[16:27] <DJones> heth: Looks like it, from the download website "get DVD images with more language packs" but I can't see the equivalent for 12.10
[16:27] <meLon> 12.04 should have all of the compatibility, with more stability :D
[16:27] <davlaps> tgm4883: thanks.
[16:27] <newbie-5th-day> so i have ubuntu installed in my Usb drive! i want to use it  in my Laptop, but also be able to use it on my Desktop and other computers !
[16:28] <newbie-5th-day> Is it a problem to run one copy of Ubuntu on multiple hardware?
[16:28] <davlaps> meLon :)
[16:28] <newbie-5th-day> to be specific i want to make compiz extra effect work .. so i need the appropriate graphic card driver of each hardware installed in this usb drive :) how can i solve this ?
[16:28] <davlaps> i'm a little worried about compat, as I saw some threads from last year about CPU crashes under load on the new dell servers..
[16:28] <dr_willis> newbie-5th-day: depends on the hardware
[16:28] <tgm4883> davlaps, you should look at http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/server/make/Dell/
[16:28] <davlaps> R720 specificlaly..
[16:28] <meLon> davlaps: Will your servers have HDD or SSDs?
[16:28] <heth> where I can see what's new in 12.10?
[16:28] <skywell> newbie-5th-day: You should install the 32bit version onto the USB drive in order to have the most compatibility from computer to computer.
[16:28] <davlaps> tgm4883: thanks, i already did..
[16:28] <newbie-5th-day> dr_willis:  how?
[16:28] <davlaps> those servers are all old gen..
[16:28] <meLon> heth https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuDesktop
[16:29] <davlaps> meLon: HDD will be fine for my app..
[16:29] <heth> meLon, tgm4883, DJones, Thanks for the assistance! Have a good day! :)
[16:29] <newbie-5th-day> skywell: already did :)
[16:29] <joker_> "The application Compiz has closed unexpectedly."
[16:29] <manners13> anyone know a workaround to this sogo : Depends: libmemcached6 (>= 0.44) but it is not installable
[16:29] <manners13> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[16:29] <npf_> I have a move drive and I have split them in alplabetical order but I would like to use mv to fo into each directory and move the folders to a new location.... but I dont want to name the movie folder ... and ideas
[16:30] <meLon> Is it possible to create a desktop launcher on DISPLAY=:0.1 vs 0.0 ?
[16:30] <tgm4883> davlaps, well that is the site that dell sends you to for an HCL
[16:30] <jsindy> I added a disk on the fly to ubuntu, was curious how to detect this new disk? fdisk -l doesnt seem to show it
[16:30] <meLon> jsindy: Your bios and hdd have to support hot-swaping
[16:30] <kirk601> how good is the automatic partitioner in the installer at sizing the partitions correctly?
[16:30] <jsindy> meLon: it is Vmware so it does
[16:30] <skywell> jsindy: you can see it in dmesg
[16:30] <katronix> Someone was telling me yesterday that eth0:X was no longer the preferred way to refer to additional IPs. Can someone point me to the correct 'new' way?
[16:30] <davlaps> tgm4883: yeah.. i know.. unfortunately, all the hw compat sites for dell/os are out of date. makes it hard when i need to order hardware with their current offerings :(
[16:31] <meLon> You can check `dmesg` output and see what /dev/sdN gets added jsindy
[16:31] <jsindy> perfect
[16:31] <jsindy> thanks guys
[16:31] <meLon> jsindy: Will you be adding these to fstab?
[16:31] <jsindy> gonna add it to an LVM partion
[16:31] <joker_> Can anyone help me? I just updated 12.04 to 12.10 and got into recovery mode.. I purged and reinstalled then reconfigured xserver-xorg and xserver-xorg-core and got to Unity. Now I just got like 8 error messages about a D-Bus program shutting down, xdiagnose shutting down, and Compiz shutting down. Is there anything I can do to fix these? I am running on 32bit.
[16:31] <jsindy> so no
[16:32] <tgm4883> davlaps, probably better to ask in #ubuntu-server
[16:32] <meLon> jsindy: I love `blkid`.  If you use `sudo blkid` you can learn the ID of the hdd and use that in fstab vs /dev/sdN numbers.  Might make your day easier in the future.
[16:32] <tgm4883> I don't run ubuntu on my dell servers
[16:32] <davlaps> tgm4883: thanks, will do!
[16:32] <jsindy> meLon:  nice
[16:32] <meLon> It's really convenient if you add/remove/re-order hdds, jsindy :D
[16:34] <intrader> Good morning all, my laptop is overheating; (laptop is lenovo t61p running linux 12.10); Command acpi -c
[16:34] <intrader> Cooling 0: LCD 0 of 15
[16:34] <intrader> Cooling 1: Processor 0 of 10
[16:34] <intrader> Cooling 2: Processor 0 of 10
[16:34] <intrader> ;as soon as I have a full screen video the temperature temp2 starts going up- video http://www.tricedesigns.com/2013/02/19/video-introduction-to-phonegap/
[16:34] <FloodBot1> intrader: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:34] <meLon> Does anybody have experience with multiple x screens and running a launcher of sorts?  I'm trying to create a desktop shortcut (or alternative) on :0.1
[16:36] <Sp00ki> how can i install grub into the Windows bootloader? Just choose install ubuntu next to Windows?
[16:37] <intrader> Good morning, laptop overheating ;as soon as I have a full screen video the temperature goes up (Psensors.temp2 > 97C)- Command acpi -c
[16:37] <intrader> Cooling 0: LCD 0 of 15
[16:37] <intrader> Cooling 1: Processor 0 of 10
[16:37] <intrader> Cooling 2: Processor 0 of 10
[16:37] <intrader> . Laptop
[16:37] <katronix> Someone was telling me yesterday that eth0:X was no longer the preferred way to refer to additional IPs. Can someone point me to the correct 'new' way?
[16:39] <RoSievers_> Hi, got a ubuntu 12.04 with no space left on \. Also, the package tree ist broken, but „dpkg --configure -a“ can't run because there is no space left. Does anyone has any suggestions?
[16:40] <RoSievers_> I'd like to fix either of the two problems
[16:40] <Komzpa> RoSievers_: apt-get clean
[16:40] <Komzpa> and retry
[16:41] <RoSievers_> looks a lot better :-)
[16:41] <intrader> Good morning, laptop overheating ;as soon as I have a full screen video the temperature goes up (Psensors.temp2 > 97C); once that temperature is reached the laptop shuts down.  result of acpi -f http://paste.ubuntu.com/5565142/
[16:41] <nsahoo> is there a repository for installing mysql 5.6.10?
[16:41] <RoSievers_> but dpkg it still complains a lot about missing space on \tmp
[16:42] <mdgeorge> My machine is extremely slow all of a sudden, and it seems to be related to the hard drive. Can anyone help?
[16:42] <RoSievers_> „dpkg: unrecoverable error, abort: /.../ can not be createt, there is no more space“
[16:43] <RoSievers_> (loosely translated from german)
[16:43] <tgm4883> katronix, I've not heard that making a nic alias shouldn't be done via eth#:X anymore
[16:43] <Sp00ki> Hey Guys :) how can i install grub into the boot partition(Windows is current OS)? Just choose install ubuntu next to Windows while installing ubuntu or manual?
[16:43] <tgm4883> RoSievers_, pastebin 'df -h'
[16:43] <nsahoo> any easy way to install mysql 5.6.10?
[16:44] <Nicolas3DPL> If it's possible to run old Windows graphic programs on Linux(Ubuntu)? Like Protel client 98?
[16:45] <RoSievers_> looks like the browser doesn't start, but I'll pastebin it on this machine
[16:45] <Nicolas3DPL> Poproszono o sesję wiadomości muzycznych. Proszę nacisnąć ikonę MM, aby zaakceptować.
[16:45] <Nicolas3DPL> Poproszono o sesję wiadomości muzycznych. Proszę nacisnąć ikonę MM, aby zaakceptować.
[16:45] <Nicolas3DPL> Poproszono o sesję wiadomości muzycznych. Proszę nacisnąć ikonę MM, aby zaakceptować.
[16:46] <Nicolas3DPL> Poproszono o sesję wiadomości muzycznych. Proszę nacisnąć ikonę MM, aby zaakceptować.
[16:47] <Myrtti> Nicolas3DPL: please stop.
[16:47] <mneptok> !pl > Nicolas3DPL
[16:47] <manners13> ok have used aptitude to install sogo which seems to have installed an older version
[16:48] <manners13> now any setting i change get stored until i restart the sogo server then all the settings are blank
[16:48] <BluesKaj> !aptitude | manners13
[16:48] <manners13> seemed to work better than apt-get
[16:48] <Sp00ki> Hey Guy how can i install grub into the boot partition(Windows is current OS)? Just choose install ubuntu next to Windows while installing ubuntu or manual?
[16:49] <RoSievers_> tgm4883: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5565158/
[16:49] <manners13> just strange how no settings are being saved
[16:49] <RoSievers_> I did not set that laptop up, btw
[16:49] <tgm4883> RoSievers_, <1GB on / is still pretty small
[16:50] <Dude> yup
[16:50] <Dude> hello all
[16:50] <Nicolas3DPL> Second question: do you know any huge, high quality emoticons package for pidgin?
[16:50] <BluesKaj> manners13, it used to , apt-get is now superior IME , I switched about 18mos ago and haven't had a problem with ap-get at all
[16:50] <RoSievers_> and to increase it I probably need gparted?
[16:50] <manners13> apt-get gave me a dependancy
[16:50] <manners13> error
[16:51] <mneptok> manners13: maybe the lack of that dependency is what is causing your issue?
[16:51] <klrr> can i use sed(1) so that it finds "<div>" in a file, then adds a string to the line after that? if so how?
[16:52] <katronix> tgm4883, Yes I've heard that too, but I don't recall the new way
[16:56] <manners13> quite possible but by all means if you can help i will sit and learn
[16:57] <luckybunny> I moved my /home folder to a different, bigger partition, on a different disk, because I figured the space issue was hardware-related. It's clearly not, because I have it again
[16:57] <manners13> The following packages have unmet dependencies.
[16:57] <manners13>  sogo : Depends: libmemcached6 (>= 0.44) but it is not installable
[16:57] <manners13> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[16:57] <manners13> thats the error im getting
[16:57] <intrader> Good morning, laptop overheating ;as soon as I have a full screen video the temperature goes up (Psensors.temp2 > 97C)- Command acpi -c result in http://paste.ubuntu.com/5565142/
[16:58] <mneptok> !info libmemcached6
[16:58] <c2tarun> intrader, are you on ATI graphic card?
[16:58] <llutz> klrr:  sed -r 's/<div>/<div style="bla">/g' foo
[16:59] <intrader> c2tarun, how do I find out?
[16:59] <mneptok> hrm. libmemechached6 exists in 12.04
[16:59] <mdgeorge> Hi.  I think my hard drive is failing. Can anyone advise me?
[17:00] <BigC85> mdgeorge what makes you think it's failing?
[17:00] <c2tarun> intrader, share output of  lspci | grep v
[17:00] <tgm4883> mneptok, manners13 looks like it was replaced with libmemcached10 in quantal
[17:01] <luckybunny> anyone~?
[17:01] <mdgeorge> Well, disk access was incredibly slow, making the machine nearly unusable. Googling suggested looking at /var/kern.log
[17:01] <luckybunny> here's a screenie of what baobab sees http://i.imgur.com/u5vmZRi.png
[17:01] <mdgeorge> Which has lots of I/O errors in it
[17:01] <c2tarun> luckybunny, I am not able to understand your problem, can you please rephrase?
[17:02] <luckybunny> the problem is the disk reading as full
[17:02] <tgm4883> RoSievers_, can you pastebin the output of             find /var/log -type f -size +100000k -exec ls -lh {} \; | awk '{ print $9 ": " $5 }'
[17:02] <luckybunny> interestingly only my home folder
[17:03] <luckybunny> yesterday the 500GB partition was 23% in use, now 100%
[17:03] <skywell> check out sprunge.us
[17:03] <skywell> that is one hell of a usefull pastebinlike site
[17:03] <BigC85> mdgeorge well you're probably correct the drive is on it's last leg.  and should be replace asap what kind of assistance/advice are you looking for?
[17:03] <intrader> c2tarun, output of lspci |grep v is http://paste.ubuntu.com/5565203/
[17:05] <llutz> luckybunny: ls -lah ~/.xsession-errors
[17:05] <c2tarun> intrader, seems like you are on NVidea graphic card, did you install proprietary driver for NVidea?
[17:05] <luckybunny> a 363GB file... that's gonna be it
[17:06] <luckybunny> tyvm!
[17:06] <mdgeorge> BigC85 Whats the best way to copy everything off of there without causing more damage?
[17:06] <llutz> luckybunny: there you go
[17:06] <luckybunny> delete it?
[17:06] <tgm4883> truncate it
[17:06] <llutz> luckybunny: > ~/.xsession-errors
[17:07] <llutz> luckybunny: but if it grows 200GB in 2 days. you should check what it fills and try to correct it
[17:07] <roSievers> tgm4883: it does not return anything
[17:07]  * c2tarun don't have enough bandwidth to download 200GBs in 2 days :P
[17:07] <tgm4883> RoSievers_, ok, that was a hunch
[17:07] <tgm4883> c2tarun, its not downloading
[17:08] <tgm4883> c2tarun, it's generating
[17:08] <BigC85> to compy the whole drive system files and personal files I'd clone the drive see: www.clonezilla.org
[17:08] <tgm4883> roSievers, so maybe it just needs a reboot to recognize the cleared up space, but I'd probably try to free some more space
[17:08] <intrader> c2tarun, a list of nvidea drivers is displayed - only one is green and shows that driver is in use.
[17:08] <c2tarun> tgm4883, yeah, I got that, :) I was just saying it is difficult to download 200GBs if that much amount of error, and probably something is wrong
[17:09] <tgm4883> yea something def wrong there
[17:09] <llutz> luckybunny: you might set "ERRFILE=/tmp/$USER-xsession-errors" in /etc/X11/Xsession, or even "ERRFILE=/dev/null"  if you aren't interested in the file at all
[17:09] <roSievers> I'm gonna reboot it first, tgm4883
[17:09] <c2tarun> intrader, well then, I can't help you, please hang around someone will surely help.
[17:09] <luckybunny> time to change my desktop background
[17:09] <BigC85> mdgeorge to compy the whole drive system files and personal files I'd clone the drive see: www.clonezilla.org
[17:09] <intrader> c2tarun, the list is a problem?
[17:10] <c2tarun> intrader, what list?
[17:10] <manners13> i did have libmemcached10 already installed
[17:10] <intrader> c2tarun, the list from the display "Additional Drivers'
[17:10] <manners13> have just tried removing it and doing a apt-get clean
[17:11] <manners13> but the install of sogo comes back with the same error
[17:11] <c2tarun> intrader, actually I thought you don't have any graphics drivers installed, so I would have suggested to activate one. But since you are saying it is already activated then I don't know what is heating your laptop that much.
[17:12] <Guest85089> is this channel the proper one for support questions?
[17:12] <tgm4883> manners13, that is because sogo isn't created for 12.10 apparently
[17:12] <tgm4883> !ask | Guest85089
[17:12] <BigC85> mdgeorge does that help?
[17:12] <roSievers> tgm4883: just booted up, some other process blocks the dpkg-database, how can I get rid of that?
[17:12] <intrader> c2tarun, thanks, there is one activated; I understand
[17:12] <manners13> well thats poo
[17:13] <tgm4883> roSievers, Its probably just checking for updates, give it a few seconds
[17:13] <roSievers> k
[17:13] <tgm4883> manners13, where are you trying to install it from?
[17:13] <Guest85089> i am new to ubuntu and when ever i try to use thunderbird email application ubuntu crashes to a black screen and i have to enter my password
[17:14] <manners13> apt-get
[17:14] <tgm4883> manners13, are you on 12.10?
[17:14] <manners13> yes
[17:14] <tgm4883> hmm
[17:14] <manners13> it instaleld the first time but i made an error
[17:14] <tgm4883> what error?
[17:14] <manners13> so i removed it then done a purge
[17:14] <intrader> c2tarun,  PSensor shows the fan at 3067RPM, there is no sound, could that be a problem?
[17:14] <manners13> the settings not storing
[17:15] <tgm4883> manners13, any files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/  ?
[17:15] <tirengarfio> anyone with ubuntu and a mini-itx motherboard?
[17:15] <tirengarfio> does it work ok?
[17:16] <skywell> Why not
[17:16] <nseagull> Hello everyone
[17:16] <tirengarfio> skywell, is it to me?
[17:16] <BigC85> Guest85089 try anothe email app geary nice search for it in the software center
[17:16] <manners13> tmortensen-bacula-quantal.list  tmortensen-bacula-quantal.list.save
[17:16] <nseagull> Could anyone help me please? :(
[17:16] <skywell> tirengarfio: yes, I see no reason mini-itx would not work as long as your processor is supported.
[17:17] <manners13> thats the only 2 files in there
[17:17] <tirengarfio> so the motherboard doesn't matter? the only thing that i should care is the processor?
[17:17] <tgm4883> manners, can you pastebin the output of 'rmadison sogo'
[17:18] <tirengarfio> i google it and it seems there is not too much information about it: https://www.google.es/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=mini-itx+intel+ubuntu&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&redir_esc=&ei=t5srUefgE8O0hAe0ooGwDQ
[17:18] <nseagull> Could anyone tell me how I can port my fglrx drivers from ubuntu 12.04 to another distro?
[17:18] <nseagull> If its not too much trouble
[17:18] <nseagull> =/
[17:18] <manners13> http://pastebin.com/WYz8aJb5
[17:19] <Bergcube> I want to install Ubuntu 12.10 on a computer with 2 large identical disks. So I want to set it up using RAID 1.  After quite a bit of websearching I still haven't found a howto or description of this, so... Is it possible?  In case it is, how?  Many thanks in advance!
[17:19] <gordon__> i just tried to install geary mail and ubuntu crashed to a black screen while it was installing geary
[17:19] <Scunizi> nseagull: why not just install the fglrx drivers provided by that distro?  sounds easier
[17:19] <tgm4883> manners13, that looks good. Can you do 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -f install && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install sogo'
[17:19] <skywell> nseagull: what distro
[17:19] <tgm4883> manners13, I think that should fix it
[17:20] <nseagull> @Scunizi I have tried to do that when installing a lot of distros, the only one that didnt crash my desktop was the one provided with 12.04 LTS
[17:20] <nseagull> I want to install arch
[17:20] <nseagull> Tried it some time ago
[17:20] <tgm4883> manners13, because sogo requires libmemcached10, not 6 according to http://packages.ubuntu.com/quantal/sogo
[17:20] <nseagull> but crashed my desktop
[17:20] <nseagull> and didnt have time
[17:20] <skywell> nseagull: have you tried the executable on AMD/ATI's website?
[17:21] <nseagull> skywell: yes
[17:21] <skywell> nseagull: what other distro were you trying?
[17:22] <manners13> http://pastebin.com/ksn1XZvq
[17:22] <manners13> unfortunatly not
[17:22] <nseagull> skywell: Crunchbang, OpenSUSE, Fedora and some more, dont remember right now
[17:22] <tgm4883> bah
[17:22] <skywell> nseagull: as far as I know amd/ati only distributes binaries and therefore are not easily ported. It is like they are encrypted. What is your card?
[17:22] <cristian_c> Hi
[17:22] <skywell> Fedora has a 50/50 success rate with fglrx
[17:22] <cristian_c> I can't browse my android device via bluetooth
[17:22] <tgm4883> manners13, i've got to go to a meeting in 8 minutes, can you pastebin '/etc/apt/sources.list'
[17:22] <manners13> all the commands seem to go through fine
[17:22] <luckybunny> ok... so I kinda still have the 100% usage after fixing... as usual emptied trash, checked all that etc
[17:23] <cristian_c> I've found 'Browse Files on Device'
[17:23] <manners13> except the last one
[17:23] <nseagull> skywell: let me see what card do i have, i think its a 4xxx series
[17:23] <cristian_c> but I get an error
[17:23] <nseagull> skywell: the best part is that the ones that work perfectly are the experimental ones
[17:23] <skywell> 4xxx is not well supported now on linux as far as I know
[17:23] <luckybunny> baobab looks normal, now, but df -h is still reading 100% usage
[17:23] <skywell> Man I would love to trade my 570 with you nseagull because 4xxx run well on FreeBeastie
[17:23] <skywell> 5770*
[17:23] <jacksmithz> are there any "premium/paid" themes for gtk/gnome, (like there is premium themes for wordpress, even though its GPL) ??
[17:23] <luckybunny> unless......
[17:24] <nseagull> skywell: FreeBeastie?
[17:24] <nseagull> skywell: FreeBSD?
[17:24] <Scunizi> After rebooting this morning after 20 days of being put to sleep nightly, the desktop won't boot.  No grub screen showing at all.  Like it was zapped from the harddrive.  Is there a link for restoring grub?
[17:24] <skywell> nseagull:  yea
[17:24] <nseagull> skywell: Whats the main difference between Linux and FreeBSD
[17:24] <nseagull> ?
[17:25] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[17:25] <luckybunny> nope
[17:25] <mad__> Will there be (semi)official packages for samba-4.x for ubuntu-12.04?
[17:25] <skywell> I would stick with linux if I was you but Unix is just like linux but has a userland distributed with the kernel
[17:25] <skywell> It is technically a "full os" as opposed to linux which is a kernel with random userlands of choice
[17:26] <VinceThePrince> is it possible to see all the "apps" I have installed in Ubuntu?
[17:26] <nseagull> skywell: ah, I prefer this Linux then =)
[17:26] <skywell> Linux has more hw and app support
[17:26] <nseagull> skywell: So, any idea to install arch without crashing?
[17:26] <VinceThePrince> I'm doing a clean install and I want to find an easy way to reinstall everything I have now
[17:26] <skywell> nseagull: you trying Arch Linux?
[17:27] <skywell> nseagull: Is it a 4xxx?
[17:27] <Bergcube> Ubuntu 12.10 desktop on software RAID 1.....  Possible?
[17:27] <nseagull> nseagull: I installed arch once, but when tried to install GNOME on it crashed
[17:27] <nseagull> skywell: lol
[17:27] <nseagull> skywell: wrote my own name
[17:27] <nseagull> skywell: lemme check
[17:27] <skywell> nseagull: Oh I thought you were trying to install it on Arch.
[17:28] <brightspark> VinceThePrince: try dpkg –get-selections (warning: there will be a lot)
[17:28] <skywell> nseagull: on Ubuntu it is recommended to just install fglrx. fglrx-* is the most up to date, not so stable version.
[17:28] <brightspark> VinceThePrince: sorry dpkg --get-selections
[17:28] <nseagull> skywell: radeon hd 4200
[17:28] <brightspark> two hyphens precede the flag
[17:28] <nseagull> skywell: yeah, you understood
[17:28] <nseagull> skywell: i want to install arch
[17:28] <nseagull> skywell: then, install fglrx
[17:29] <VinceThePrince> brightspark, Thank you sir
[17:29] <skywell> arch linux? nseagull
[17:29] <nseagull> skywell: yeah :P
[17:29] <brightspark> VinceThePrince: glad to help :)
[17:30] <skywell> nseagull: have you followed https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/AMD_Catalyst to heart?
[17:30] <VinceThePrince> brightspark, Little problem I can only scroll up to the letter 'N' :D any idea how can I export the whole list.
[17:30] <nseagull> skywell: I dont get this part [a legacy driver for Radeon HD 2xxx 3xxx 4xxx is not available in [community] yet]
[17:31] <brightspark> VinceThePrince: try redirecting.  dpkg --get-selections > my-packages.txt
[17:31] <nseagull> skywell: Does it mean that its impossible?
[17:31] <VinceThePrince> brightspark, learned something new hah a :D Awesome!
[17:31] <brightspark> VinceThePrince: glad to help :)
[17:32] <nseagull> skywell: u there?
[17:32] <roSievers> tgm4883: (storage problem) restarting didn't help, and I'm not sure what else I could delete
[17:32] <skywell> nseagull: I had to read it for context
[17:32] <skywell> AUR is like source code install vs binary install
[17:32] <roSievers> Also, the other Laptop can't use the Internet while I do in chat
[17:32] <skywell> The legacy drivers are not in source version. That is jsut 1 way to install it.
[17:32] <skywell> nseagull: so so far so good
[17:33] <nseagull> skywell: right now i cant get compiz to work in ubuntu 12.04, and i think its because of my gpu
[17:33] <stupidBOOT> i did something stupid. i deleted the contents of "/boot" (including the linux headers) and now when i try to load ubuntu it says its missing files. my harddrive is LVM encrypted. is there anyway to restore the /boot directory and boot up as normal, or do i have to reinstall ubuntu?
[17:33] <skywell> nseagull: why do you think that?
[17:34] <skywell> I think you can run it from a terminal to view the error messages.
[17:34] <skywell> Someone will know more about compiz than I do here I assume.
[17:34] <VinceThePrince> Finally Upgrading from Ubuntu 10.10 to Xubuntu 12.10  "Drumroll"
[17:34] <nseagull> skywell: yeah, i know, the output was lot of opengl errors
[17:34] <profiler1982> is it possible to install ubuntu tablet os on netbook
[17:35] <nseagull> skywell: should i switch to arch?
[17:35] <nseagull> skywell: i love to configure everything from 0
[17:35] <skywell> nseagull: I would take that output to the forums for a more educated response as I am not too familiar with opengl or its relationship to the graphics driver
[17:35] <skywell> nseagull: why do you want to switch?
[17:35] <stupidBOOT> please help. i have deleted the contents of "/boot". my machine won't boot, it says its missing linux headers. how can i restore the /boot folder so ubuntu will work?
[17:35] <ikonia> stupidBOOT: you may as well just re-install
[17:35] <Scunizi> !grub
[17:35] <ikonia> stupidBOOT: you need to put your kernel and all the files back
[17:35] <stupidBOOT> ikonia, there is nothing i can do?
[17:35] <nseagull> skywell: i always thought ubuntu was really "overcrowded"
[17:36] <skywell> nseagull: How so?
[17:36] <ikonia> stupidBOOT: there is....but you're going to struggle
[17:36] <stupidBOOT> my LVM encrypted harddrive, all of that data is lost?
[17:36] <ikonia> stupidBOOT: no not at all
[17:36] <skywell> nseagull: Why not debian if you feel a vanilla type setup is more beneficial
[17:36] <ikonia> stupidBOOT: you'll need to get a kernel into /boot to be able to boot
[17:36] <skywell> Arch is a big circle jerk imo. Yea you can make a sweet box but you can do it with any major distro by just doing a minimal install
[17:36] <ikonia> stupidBOOT: then you can fix things properly
[17:36] <Darklord> hey guys quick question i need java to run Tekkit and im new to Ubuntu as of yesterday can anyone tell me the right java d/l to get in the Ubuntu Software Center?
[17:36] <skywell> and other distros wont break as often as arch on you
[17:36] <stupidBOOT> how do i get a kernel into boot? the /boot directory is not part of my LVM encrypted harddrive, is it? i am currently on a different OS, maybe i can just download a new kernel?
[17:37] <skywell> stupidBOOT: you have to reinstall grub
[17:37] <ikonia> skywell: no he doesn't
[17:37] <roSievers> tgm4883: I give up on that problem (storage space, package tree) for now, and pass her on to the one who installed Ubuntu (and should know that stuff better than I do)
[17:37] <ikonia> skywell: grub will fix nothing
[17:37] <nseagull> skywell: What I loved about CrunchBang, it was really "empty"
[17:37] <skywell> stupidBOOT: look up "Ubuntu live install grub"
[17:37] <roSievers> tgm4883: Thanks for your help
[17:37] <obert> hello,someone knows f.lux?
[17:37] <bcdonadio> quit
[17:37] <[HUN]Bitvilag> hi guuyyss i need some help regarding servers....well ubuntu server to be exact:::
[17:37] <stupidBOOT> so, load up the ubuntu live CD and reinstall grub, but will that fix the linux headers problem?
[17:37] <ikonia> stupidBOOT: no it won't
[17:38] <ikonia> stupidBOOT: you are missing your kernel
[17:38] <ikonia> stupidBOOT: if you have deleted everything in /boot - grub is not your issue
[17:38] <stupidBOOT> so once i reinstall grub, then what do i do? how do i get a kernel into that /boot directory?
[17:38] <skywell> ikonia: He could boot a live CD copy the /boot from it and paste it where the other one is deleted
[17:38] <SoulShadow> so because there's no more #ubuntu-tablet, where do you go if you want to install full ubuntu on a tablet?
[17:38] <stupidBOOT> ok, so forget grub. where do i get a kernel and how do i get it in my /boot?
[17:38] <ikonia> skywell: no, you'd need to update grub after that
[17:38] <nseagull> skywell: so i should look forward to debian instead of arch, at least in this machine?
[17:38] <skywell> ikonia: And he could
[17:39] <skywell> nseagull: What do you mean overcrowded?
[17:39] <stupidBOOT> the kernel, is it specific to my computer or can i just find another one to download?
[17:39] <stupidBOOT> i'm a newb when it come sto linux
[17:39] <skywell> nseagull: If you are doing a "Hipster" switch where you drop something because it is too popular then I advise you stick with something you know.
[17:39] <stupidBOOT> (obivously)
[17:39] <nseagull> skywell: not in that way
[17:40] <nseagull> skywell: I love linux
[17:40] <nseagull> skywell: I want to know more than I know
[17:40] <stupidBOOT> OK, i'm going to download a new kernel and put it in the /boot directory
[17:40] <[HUN]Bitvilag> could anyone ...help me regarding ..choosing the best motherboard but still cheap for hosting websites!! I found this q67 chipset which can be hw managed if i understand right i can turn off and on and shit without os...does anyone know anything about this? ever used one these? experience?
[17:40] <nseagull> skywell: installing from the basics
[17:40] <Soban> SoulShadow: there is ubuntu-touch chan
[17:40] <stupidBOOT> which kernel should i download?
[17:40] <nseagull> skywell helps me to do that
[17:40] <SoulShadow> Soban: but that's not the same
[17:40] <SoulShadow> that's for that stupid mobile OS version
[17:40] <skywell> nseagull: Why not a Ubuntu minimal install and build up from it.
[17:40] <nseagull> skywell: ubuntu its like "plug and play"
[17:41] <stupidBOOT> do i need to install it?
[17:41] <nseagull> skywell: minimal instal?
[17:41] <nseagull> skywell: what do you mean?
[17:41] <stupidBOOT> halp!!
[17:41] <brightspark> stupidBOOT: can you provide info on your system- 64-bit? 12.10?
[17:41] <skywell> nseagull: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[17:41] <stupidBOOT> its an old dell inspiron
[17:41] <Darklord> anyone know which java d/l i need for my new Ubuntu 12.10 64bit system?
[17:41] <stupidBOOT> 32 bit, latest version of ubuntu
[17:41] <skywell> nseagull: It is a 28mb install disc.
[17:41] <nseagull> skywell: welp
[17:41] <nseagull> skywell: you just astonished me
[17:41] <nseagull> skywell: lol
[17:42] <iknofailfu> stupidBOOT, there are many distributions, all of them have the same basics, but maintained by different people, who see everyday usage in different ways, those people take the source code of kernel in the same place and ship it to their own distro, so if you're running one or another, best kernel image is the one provided by your distro maintaners
[17:42] <skywell> nseagull: Here is my issue with distro hopping. You get new utilities configuration files in each distro.
[17:42] <brightspark> stupidBOOT: you can get a .deb here: http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux/linux-image-3.5.0-25-generic_3.5.0-25.38_i386.deb
[17:42] <nseagull> skywell: i know, like YUM instad of APT in fedora
[17:42] <stupidBOOT> ok...
[17:42] <nseagull> skywell: its an app ik
[17:42] <skywell> nseagull: you may switch to arch in order to learn, and learn you will. But it won't be completely transferrable to another distro because arch chooses certain userland utilities.
[17:42] <stupidBOOT> brightspark, thanks very much!
[17:42] <brightspark> stupidBOOT: I'm not sure how you go about depackaging a deb without being able to boot the system though.
[17:43] <skywell> nseagull: Package management is a small piece to the puzzle. Those are easy.
[17:43] <nseagull> skywell: i know, but it was the first example that came to my mind
[17:43] <nseagull> skywell: =/
[17:43] <stupidBOOT> i'm on a live backtrack cd right now, i think i can access the /boot directory of the ubuntu OS on the harddrive... maybe i can just move it there
[17:43] <stupidBOOT> its worth a shot. i'm probably going to have to reinstall and lose all my data anyway
[17:44] <nseagull> skywell: well...
[17:44] <skywell> nseagull: sorry I have been there done that so I have a bittersweet feeling about distro hopping
[17:44] <ikonia> stupidBOOT: you don't have to restore
[17:44] <ikonia> stupidBOOT: don't restore
[17:44] <nseagull> skywell: I know what you mean
[17:44] <skywell> nseagull: You have a G+?
[17:45] <nseagull> skywell: I have a google acc, does that work?
[17:45] <noffle> Bizarre. Middle click + drag lets me resize windows using my mouse. However, if I try this on my trackpad (three finger click + drag), it tries to move the window instead. Am I missing something?
[17:45] <ikonia> stupidBOOT: you just need to get something to "boot" and then you can issue an  apt-get install linux-image again
[17:45] <nseagull> skywell: never used G+
[17:45] <ikonia> stupidBOOT: that will re-download everything you need into /boot from the ubuntu repo
[17:45] <Fuzzles> doing an assignment need peoples opinion. Unity or KDE?
[17:45] <stupidBOOT> wait wait...
[17:45] <ikonia> Fuzzles: not in this channel please.
[17:45] <intrader> Good morning, laptop overheating ;as soon as I have a full screen video the temperature goes up (Psensors.temp2 > 97C)- Command acpi -c result in http://paste.ubuntu.com/5565142/, lspci|grep v output is http://paste.ubuntu.com/5565203/
[17:45] <brightspark> stupidBOOT: I bet there's a trick to depackaging it using chroot and dpkg, but I'm not savvy enough to know it.  ikonia, do you know how he should go about installing the kernel into /boot on his HDD when he's on a LiveCD?
[17:45] <stupidBOOT> i deleted everything in my /boot except the grub directory is still there... grub still boots, but it stops when it says its missing the linux kernel
[17:45] <stupidBOOT> so maybe i can just drop out to the commandline and then.. issue that command?
[17:46] <skywell> nseagull: It is cool. I have a friend on there you might like who uses debian and builds from the ground up.
[17:46] <nseagull> skywell: Just tell me
[17:46] <nseagull> skywell: One thing
[17:46] <nseagull> skywell: please
[17:46] <stupidBOOT> i should have been more detailed about this. i deleted the root files in the /boot directory which happened to contain my kernel. the grub directory is still there and grub still loads, but then fails when no kernel is found
[17:46] <prp-e> Hi
[17:46] <skywell> nseagull: ad me bro. https://plus.google.com/104403530798815790521/posts
[17:46] <stupidBOOT> so ... if i reboot to that point and drop out to command line, is there a command i can issue to download and rebuild the kernel?
[17:47] <ikonia> stupidBOOT: no,
[17:47] <stupidBOOT> what about "apt-get install linux-image"
[17:47] <stupidBOOT> ?
[17:47] <nseagull> skywell: done
[17:47] <ikonia> stupidBOOT: you need to either a.) boot a kernel b.) boot from a livecd and chroot,
[17:47] <brightspark> stupidBOOT: I don't think so- you have no networking drivers at that point so you can't download much.
[17:47] <nseagull> skywell: tell me
[17:47] <skywell> nseagull: "Listen to your heart" if you love linux each experience is a good one
[17:47] <ikonia> stupidBOOT: is your system encypted ? or just a specific volume ?
[17:47] <ptrkmj> hello. something strange happened after installing libreoffice-java-common. i wasn't able to start libreoffice and after logging out i wasn't able to log in with my DM. i had to Ctrl-Alt-F1 to console and remove to get back system to work.
[17:47] <stupidBOOT> LVM encrypted
[17:47] <skywell> nseagull: tell you what now?
[17:47] <ikonia> stupidBOOT: so the whole system encypted
[17:47] <nseagull> skywell: Ubuntu or Debian, which to choose? I've been distrohopping for 2-3 years with different machines, i'm not afraid
[17:48] <nseagull> skywell: haha
[17:48] <stupidBOOT> but there is a 255 filesystem that i think is the /boot directory.. i'm not sure
[17:48] <skywell> nseagull: Debian then. Debian testing.
[17:48] <ikonia> stupidBOOT: is /boot on a seperate partition ?
[17:48] <stupidBOOT> i got an LVM encrypted device i can't access.. and i got a 255meg filesystem
[17:48] <stupidBOOT> i think that is the separate boot partition, but i'm not 100% sure
[17:48] <nseagull> skywell: Did it appear that I added you?
[17:48] <ikonia> stupidBOOT: you need to get sure
[17:48] <Jnco> Hey All
[17:49] <skywell> nseagull: Yea just saw it.
[17:49] <stupidBOOT> how?
[17:49] <ikonia> stupidBOOT: do you have a seperate partition for /boot ?
[17:49] <nseagull> nseagull: Thanks man, going to download debian right now
[17:49] <ikonia> (you should have if your running an lvm encrupted setup)
[17:49] <nseagull> nseagull: BUT
[17:49] <nseagull> nseagull: about the drivers
[17:49] <Jnco> Hey All, was wondering if someone could help me. Is there a way to install vsftpd3 using apt-get? I seem to only be downloading the 2.5 version...
[17:49] <stupidBOOT> i don't think so... i would have done a generic ubuntu install
[17:49] <nseagull> nseagull: Download from where? o_O Or port
[17:50] <ikonia> stupidBOOT: a generic ubuntu install is not lvm encypted
[17:50] <skywell> nseagull: Try the legacy driver provided by ati/amd's web site
[17:50] <nseagull> nseagull: thank you :)
[17:50] <stupidBOOT> i can see a 255M filesystem that is unencrypted that contains a grub folder. i can see a 120G filesystem that is LVM encrypted. and i can see a 118G filesystem that contains all of the "boot/dev/media/sys/temp" folders etc
[17:50] <nseagull> nseagull: Now lets pray so it doesnt crash
[17:50] <ikonia> stupidBOOT: that sounds like /boot
[17:50] <skywell> nseagull: Start here. http://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary
[17:50] <stupidBOOT> sorry, i did a generic alternative-instlal
[17:51] <stupidBOOT> i didn't muck around with the partitions
[17:51] <skywell> nseagull: reading sucks but in this case worth it.
[17:51] <stupidBOOT> the 255meg filesystem sounds like boot?
[17:51] <ikonia> stupidBOOT: yes
[17:51] <nseagull> skywell: It doesnt suck, as a student it is really useful
[17:51] <stupidBOOT> that is my thinking, it has grub in it
[17:51] <ikonia> stupidBOOT: try to mount it
[17:51] <iknofailfu> Jnco, found it in google http://blog.thefrontiergroup.com.au/2012/10/making-vsftpd-with-chrooted-users-work-again/ but you could always build it from source and make some .deb package with `checkinstall` for example, shouldn't be hard
[17:51] <stupidBOOT> i can access it
[17:51] <ikonia> stupidBOOT: what's in it ?
[17:51] <nseagull> skywell: And the next year I have a subject about linux so its worth it
[17:51] <Jnco> Hey all, I just upgraded to VSFTPD 3.0.2 using the tarball file, I am having issues with authentication from a PAM file, does anyone have any experience with vsftpd?
[17:51] <nseagull> skywell: =)
[17:51] <stupidBOOT> grub folder and lost+found folder
[17:51] <ikonia> stupidBOOT: ok,
[17:51] <skywell> nseagull: School huh? That is sweet. I can't wait to have a linux class at college ha
[17:51] <ikonia> stupidBOOT: so you need to get a kernel in there .....
[17:52] <stupidBOOT> i think this is boot, these are the folders that were in the /boot folder before i deleted the files that were there
[17:52] <stupidBOOT> yes, thats is right
[17:52]  * skywell Steps out for a ciggeretee ((BRB))
[17:52] <nseagull> skywell: I'm an IT student :P
[17:52] <nseagull> skywell: I hope we meet again soon
[17:52] <stupidBOOT> how do i get a kernel in there? can i just copy and paste it there or do i have to install it or what
[17:52] <nseagull> skywell: cya
[17:52] <ikonia> stupidBOOT: you can try to get the one from your livecd
[17:52] <skywell> nseagull: see you in 10. But yea that would be atrip. Maybe we can do some protfolio work in the near future.
[17:52] <stupidBOOT> ok good idea i'll fetch my live cd
[17:53] <stupidBOOT> hmm... i may only have alternative-install, these aren't live cds.... grrr
[17:53] <ikonia> stupidBOOT: get a livecd
[17:53] <stupidBOOT> would it matter if i used an old livecd?
[17:54] <ikonia> stupidBOOT: get something as close to your version as possible
[17:55] <stupidBOOT> ok, no access to a live cd, my install cds are all text-install cds because i use LVM :(
[17:55] <stupidBOOT> i'll have to find it online somewhere
[17:55] <wN> stupidBOOT: perhaps you can hit Ctrl+Alt+f3 to get to a virtual terminal
[17:55] <stupidBOOT> i did have a link to that .deb file...
[17:55] <manners13> anyone else in here use sogo, im having trouble with it not saving the settings
[17:55] <stupidBOOT> but the problem was is that it didn't fit in the directory
[17:55] <stupidBOOT> it says i only have 5Meg left there
[17:55] <stupidBOOT> thats part of the reason i deleted all the files in boot, ubuntu update was asking for more room in boot
[17:56] <iknofailfu> deleting all files seems legit
[17:56] <brightspark> stupidBOOT: what's eating up all the space in boot?
[17:56] <stupidBOOT> the grub folder it seems
[17:58] <stupidBOOT> there is a folder in /grub called "i386pc" and it contains a whole lotta .mod files, can i delete any of those?
[17:59] <stupidBOOT> i'm stuck...
[17:59] <brightspark> stupidBOOT: my /boot/grub is less than 5MB, and my whole /boot is about 180MB.  Not sure what is eating up all your space then.
[17:59] <stupidBOOT> what folders do you have in your /boot/grub?
[17:59] <brightspark> stupidBOOT: how are you accessing the system now?
[17:59] <stupidBOOT> just through normal file browser
[17:59] <stupidBOOT> i'm on a live usb backtrack
[18:00] <brightspark> stupidBOOT: just one, called 'locale'.  16KB.
[18:00] <stupidBOOT> i figure if i can delete something in my grub folder to free up space i can then find a linux kernel and copy paste in in there
[18:01] <stupidBOOT> just found what the problem is
[18:01] <stupidBOOT> i viewed "hidden files" and there is a trash bin in there with 200 meg in it!
[18:01] <stupidBOOT> that'll be it... now... where do i get myself a kernel?
[18:01] <stupidBOOT> .deb file
[18:01] <brightspark> stupidBOOT: check in the trash bin?
[18:01] <stupidBOOT> is that a kernel?
[18:02] <stupidBOOT> oh shit
[18:02] <stupidBOOT> oops, sorry language
[18:02] <stupidBOOT> trashbin contents got deleted without me checking whats in there.. maybe my kernel was in there
[18:03] <stupidBOOT> nevermind
[18:03] <stupidBOOT> so i have the linux-image.deb file in the /boot folder, do i need to do anything, compile it, anything? or should i try to reboot as is?
[18:04] <ponch0> hey all, I downloaded and installed the LXDE core desktop, restart the machine, and it didn't kick in, where do I enable it?
[18:04] <ponch0> Ubuntu 12.04
[18:04] <brightspark> stupidBOOT: That .deb will not work just copy-pasting.  It needs to be depackaged, and I'm not quite sure how to do that.
[18:04] <skywell> ponch0: When you login you can change your DE
[18:04] <stupidBOOT> ahh
[18:04] <stupidBOOT> is there any way i can get a kernel in there?
[18:05] <ponch0> Login on virtual machine, because my login is to automatically log me in, in ubuntu
[18:05] <skywell> ponch0: Not after not before but after you click your username there should be a ubuntu icon you can change to LXDE
[18:05] <achandra> stupidBOOT, yep that dpkg file needs to be extracted...you will need to then check there is appropriate initrd image and vmlinuz files
[18:05] <achandra> stupidBOOT, all in /boot
[18:05] <achandra> stupidBOOT, make sure there is a grub directory in there too
[18:05] <stupidBOOT> grub directory is in there thats ok
[18:06] <ponch0> I don't get that screen because it's disabled skywell.
[18:06] <dr_willis> ponch0:  log out.. select lubuntu/lxde log in
[18:06] <stupidBOOT> so i have to extract the kernel from the .deb
[18:06] <stupidBOOT> i've never dealt with .deb before
[18:06] <dr_willis> mc can copy files from. debs i recall
[18:06] <stupidBOOT> hmm... maybe, does somebody here have a kernel that is already extracted ready to go?
[18:06] <stupidBOOT> or is this specific to my system?
[18:07] <brightspark> stupidBOOT: You cannot just copy-and-paste files in there.
[18:07] <ponch0> dr_willis: beautiful thank you.
[18:07] <skywell> stupidBOOT: Kernel is specific to Ubuntu
[18:07] <ponch0> never occured to me that I could just log out.
[18:07] <stupidBOOT> i'm wondering if maybe i should just reinstall...
[18:07] <stupidBOOT> this is all getting too hard
[18:07] <brightspark> stupidBOOT: there are scripts that get run on installation of that kernel, which will not get executed if you just copy-paste files.
[18:07] <stupidBOOT> i see...
[18:08] <achandra> stupidBOOT, here are your choices, you can dpkg -i that deb file and see if gives you back the initrd image file, and the vmlinuz files and ensures you have a /grub
[18:08] <achandra> but if it doesnt
[18:08] <stupidBOOT> ok i'll try that.
[18:09] <stupidBOOT> errors were encountered
[18:10] <stupidBOOT> it can't find something because its not mounted
[18:10] <achandra> stupidBOOT, if it doesn't work, and you dont want to go through the pain, reinstall...and live and learn
[18:10] <stupidBOOT> i'm going to reinstall
[18:10] <achandra> stupidBOOT, better plan is to clearly understand what happened...and spend the time to fix it
[18:11] <achandra> stupidBOOT, or if you cant, you know why
[18:11] <achandra> stupidBOOT, my point is...it might happen again..and lets say its a critical box...do you know how to fix it/
[18:11] <skywell> You have to be careful what you sudo. You should all set some alias up to use trash as opposed to rm if you are deleting files in sensitive areas
[18:11] <stupidBOOT> it all comes down to the fact that there was a hidden .trash bin in there consuming all my resources, when i went to update my ubuntu it said "not enough room in /boot free up some space" so i deleted my kernel headers without seeing the hidden files
[18:11] <stupidBOOT> pretty stupid, huh.
[18:11] <stupidBOOT> but thanks very much for all your help guys
[18:11] <achandra> besides having an image and just restore :)
[18:11] <stupidBOOT> shame about my lost files on LVM, thats gone now, isn't it?
[18:11] <bez> FUCK THE WINDOWS
[18:12] <stupidBOOT> achandra, it wont happen again, it was just some random stupid thing i did
[18:12] <achandra> stupidBOOT, its all good....we learn like this
[18:12] <stupidBOOT> but the LVM, all my files...
[18:12] <stupidBOOT> gone?
[18:12] <achandra> stupidBOOT, not necessarily
[18:12] <stupidBOOT> its not life or death luckily, i have my bitcoin wallet backed up
[18:12] <stupidBOOT> go on...
[18:12] <achandra> if you can boot some how into a live image, i think you can mount the volume
[18:12] <achandra> and then scp it over or back it up
[18:13] <brightspark> achandra: he's on a liveUSB
[18:13] <achandra> ahh
[18:13] <achandra> can you mount the volume?
[18:13] <stupidBOOT> i tried to mount it by clicking on it in the file system, it wouldn't let me
[18:13] <stupidBOOT> it asked me for a password though..
[18:13] <achandra> and?
[18:13] <stupidBOOT> and then it rejected it
[18:13] <stupidBOOT> unmountable
[18:14] <skywell> You encrypted the volume with a passphrase right?
[18:14] <stupidBOOT> yep
[18:14] <intrader> Good morning, laptop overheating ;as soon as I have a full screen video the temperature goes up (Psensors.temp2 > 97C)- Command acpi -c result in http://paste.ubuntu.com/5565142/, lspci|grep v output is http://paste.ubuntu.com/5565203/
[18:14] <achandra> right...
[18:14] <brightspark> stupidBOOT: how were you looking through the trashbin then?
[18:14] <achandra> stupidBOOT, decrypt by using the pass, then mount
[18:14] <skywell> Passphrase is something your supposed to save
[18:14] <stupidBOOT> the .trash hidden folder was in the /boot folder
[18:14] <stupidBOOT> passphrase is fine, i know the passphrase, but it wont mount it
[18:14] <skywell> how did you view /boot?
[18:14] <stupidBOOT> it lets me view the filesystem
[18:14] <skywell> were you looking at the livecd's /boot?
[18:14] <brightspark> stupidBOOT: so you CAN mount the boot partition, but not the root partition?
[18:15] <skywell> if its read only you can copy off it
[18:15] <stupidBOOT> as though the filesystem is a separate partition or something, i didn't set up partitions, i used a default boot on the alternative text cd
[18:15] <stupidBOOT> well, there is a 255meg device there with a grub folder that i assume is my /boot
[18:16] <stupidBOOT> i dunno.. i think i'll just reinstall, this is all a bit too much
[18:16] <stupidBOOT> the LVM, maybe i should grab that for later? copy paste it and hold on to it to see if i can mount it later on
[18:16] <stupidBOOT> i'm such a stupid idiot
[18:16] <stupidBOOT> deleting my kernel
[18:16] <stupidBOOT> what the hell was i thinking
[18:17] <stupidBOOT> OK thanks guys
[18:17] <stupidBOOT> see-ya
[18:20] <Dra|n> lol
[18:20] <dr_willis> i was wondering that also...    ;-)
[18:22] <Darklord> can anyone help me with running a program automaticaly with Java
[18:22] <coolroot> dr_willis: can you help me with this http://paste.ubuntu.com/5564842/ it's my laptops distro in a serious messed up :(
[18:23] <Darklord> anyone3
[18:24] <Darklord> anyone?
[18:24] <prp-e> :)
[18:24] <dr_willis> theres the .config/autostart  dir  Darklord
[18:25] <Darklord> it doesnt show up the oracle java runtime file to associate the file with
[18:25] <dr_willis> make a script in that dir
[18:26] <bean__> Darklord: stop spammmmming
[18:26] <bean__> Darklord: java -jar <jar>
[18:26] <manners13> right im trying to use sogo, have now got it installed and trying to use the webmin interface to administer it however if i go into general and tick some of the boxes then click save and i get error Error while saving the following parameter : Workers count .... but this error is simular for each setting page
[18:27] <bean__> oh god
[18:27] <bean__> webmin
[18:27] <manners13> lol
[18:27] <manners13> it works for me with most things
[18:28] <manners13> i use it to administer bacula
[18:29] <Whiskey`Wonka> I have something odd going on with a freshly installed ubuntu
[18:29] <manners13> i know theres security issues with it but i use a router and firewall to only allow certain addresses access to sertain ports
[18:29] <Whiskey`Wonka> hp proliant with 6x scsi drives
[18:29] <Whiskey`Wonka> first drive had /boot, 2nd has /
[18:29] <bean__> manners13: SOGo looks terrifying too
[18:29] <Whiskey`Wonka> when it boots grub comes up, select ubuntu then it drops to (initramfs)
[18:30] <manners13> yes but its a perfect exchange replacemet with its compatability with outlook
[18:30]  * bean__ works for a company that uses google apps. Done and done.
[18:30] <bean__> outlook is disgusting
[18:30] <coolroot> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5564842/ it's my laptops distro in a serious messed up :(
[18:31] <manners13> lol but its a business standard
[18:31] <bean__> lollllllllll
[18:31] <bean__> maybe in your business
[18:31] <manners13> mine and many others
[18:31] <Whiskey`Wonka> manners13: outlook is a 'standard' ?
[18:31] <BlitzHere> You can't escape microsoft in business just like you can't escape google on the internet
[18:31] <manners13> almost every business i do IT support for
[18:31] <Guest19382> Hi. I haven't been able to connect to freenode via tor last few days. anybody having the same problem?
[18:32]  * bean__ would not work for a place with exchange.
[18:32] <bean__> Guest19382: that would be a question for #freenode or somesuch
[18:32] <Guest19382> thanks
[18:33] <manners13> but with exchange not being included in the new small business server it opens up a market if it can be done cheaper than most online retailers
[18:33] <bean__> k
[18:33] <Whiskey`Wonka> manners13: i dunno, ive been moving people to gapps for 6? 7? years and everyone has been happier
[18:34] <bean__> ^
[18:34] <arthur> how can i upodate ubuntu 12.04
[18:34] <bean__> arthur: what are you on now?
[18:34] <Whiskey`Wonka> ive had gfyd since it was in beta
[18:34] <manners13> anyways can anyone help with why sogo wont save settings
[18:34] <Guest16114> beam ubuntu 12.04
[18:34] <Whiskey`Wonka> manners13: permissions?
[18:35] <bean__> Guest16114: either update through software center or run "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade" on your command line
[18:35] <ponch0> LXDE looks awesome, but how do I make the words inside my terminal bigger, theyre so small i can't see what it says.
[18:35] <manners13> well it seems to edit a file in /run/sogo/GNUstep/defaults
[18:36] <bean__> manners13: it seems that #sogo is a channel on here
[18:36] <manners13> yeah its dead
[18:36] <bean__> people there could probably give better answer.
[18:36] <bean__> s
[18:36] <manners13> more or less no one talks lol
[18:36] <tgm4883> outlook != exchange
[18:36] <bean__> lol, well i doubt anyone here has ever even heard of sogo.
[18:36] <BlitzHere> bean__ that wouldn't change sources.list if I'm not mistaken - he'll jjst get latest precise packages
[18:36] <tgm4883> we have people with outlook, but our backend is google apps
[18:36] <profiler1982> how to set in /etc/default/keyboard serbian latin layout
[18:36] <bean__> BlitzHere: he didn't say update to 12.10
[18:37] <BlitzHere> Hasn't Gmail dropped support for actuvesync?
[18:37] <tgm4883> manners13, if it's editing a file in /run then it's doing it wrong
[18:37] <manners13> ok
[18:37] <bean__> BlitzHere: only for free gmail.
[18:38] <bean__> BlitzHere: it still works for google apps / education, etc
[18:38] <manners13> seems the user it created is sogo and thats the home folder for it
[18:38] <BlitzHere> bean__ whoops, you're right. But then, shouldn't that be automatic by default....
[18:38] <tgm4883> manners13, /run is a temp filesystem
[18:41] <maurizio> ciao a tutti
[18:41] <manners13> ok i will move the home folder and see what happends
[18:44] <BlitzHere> So, is it true that ubuntu will become a semirolling distribution from 14.04? With major releases every two years?
[18:44] <dr_willis> BlitzHere:  not confirmed.. as far as ive read
[18:45] <dr_willis> unless its been anounced recently
[18:45] <BlitzHere> No, nothing new. I just read an old article recently
[18:45] <jeeves_moss> is it possible to see/send text messages on my Ubuntu desktop from my Android phone?  I like the fact that I can see who's calling and the txt messages on my XBMC box at home, but I can't figure out how to do it from my laptop
[18:46] <DJones> BlitzHere: Maybe this is recent enough http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/01/ubuntu-not-switching-to-rolling-release-model
[18:46] <iuuso> 1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c/save
[18:46] <iuuso> whoopsie
[18:48] <Whiskey`Wonka> uhg, is it normal for grub to be listing dos entries or mentioning dosfs when you have NO dos partitions?
[18:50] <prashant_123456> how to seperate front audio jack and rear audio jack ? both are playing music at the same time. using ubuntu 12.04
[18:50] <BlitzHere> DJones thanks! That helps
[18:54] <arthur_> how can i put somthing on the start button when i restart its gone
[18:55] <skywell> arthur_: what?
[18:55] <arthur_> i have installed wine with office 2007
[18:55] <arthur_> skywell, installed wine with office 2007 and whant a start button
[18:55] <noffle> Bizarre. Middle click + drag lets me resize windows using my mouse. However, if I try this on my trackpad (three finger click + drag), it tries to move the window instead. Am I missing something?
[18:56] <DJones> arthur_: You'll probably stand more chance of getting an answer to that in the dedicated wine channel #winehq
[18:57] <coolroot> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5564842/ it's my laptops distro in a serious messed up :(
[18:57] <arthur_> but how can i put somthing on the start
[18:58] <skywell> There is no start menu in Ubuntu. Wine just runs windows programs
[18:58] <Dra|n> heeeh
[18:58] <skywell> technically you could search for installed wine programs throw dash
[18:58] <skywell> when you push super and type "office" what pops up?
[18:58] <arthur_> skywell ubuntu 12.04 is with unity not
[18:59] <skywell> arthur_: what do you have installed? xubuntu?
[18:59] <arthur_> skey ubuntu 12.04
[18:59] <DJones> arthur_: Do you mean you want to add microsoft office apps to the Unity bar in Ubuntu?
[18:59] <skywell> DJones: yes
[19:00] <arthur_> djones yes
[19:00] <skywell> DJones: he wants a quik launch shortcut somewhere. Icon based
[19:00] <Dra|n> gooooooooooooood
[19:00] <Dra|n> arthur_, install windows
[19:00] <Dra|n> thats all
[19:00] <prashant_123456> how to seperate front audio jack and rear audio jack ? both are playing music at the same time. using ubuntu 12.04
[19:00] <DJones> arthur_: I don't use wine so I can't help with that, thats why I suggested asking in the #winehq channel, it may be something they know how to do
[19:01] <Dra|n> prashant_123456, in the motherboard unplug what unit do you want disable
[19:01] <arthur_> but how can i put something on the unity bar
[19:01] <skywell> arthur_: drag it onto the bar
[19:01] <skywell> drag and drop brosef
[19:02] <Dra|n> thats all
[19:02] <Dra|n> NESXT!
[19:02] <DJones> arthur_: Once you've got the app open, if you right click on the icon in the unity bar, you may have an option to Lock to the launcher, thats all I can think of
[19:02] <arthur_> skeywell i did that but after restart it's gone
[19:02] <lifebird64> ¿ where can I find a full list (and documentation) of kernel boot options? is that even available for /any/ distros?
[19:02] <Whiskey`Wonka> grub issues maybe mmmm
[19:03] <prashant_123456> i want it enabled or disable from software like realtek hd audio manager in windows 7 Dra|n
[19:03] <Whiskey`Wonka> anyone know why on a system with NO dos partition grub is insmod part_msdos and says root=hd0,msdos ?:
[19:03] <Dra|n> prashant_123456,  all riht dude see in cpanel ubuntu does it like windows
[19:03] <arthur_> how can i remove somthing from dash home
[19:04] <prashant_123456> Dra|n, where in ubuntu
[19:04] <Dra|n> system settings
[19:06] <prashant_123456> Dra|n, no there is no option in system settings only sound option and it does not contain any info
[19:07] <arthur_> how can i see on command line the partions
[19:07] <noffle> Is there any way to disable three finger touchpad click + drag from moving windows? I'm not seeing anything in ccsm.
[19:07] <prashant_123456> only output input hardware etc in sound Dra|n
[19:08] <Kveras> Interacting with tabs in Chrome or Chromium sometimes (2-5 times per day) crashes my X server. This happens both in Unity and Awesome WM. What log should I read to find the problem?
[19:08] <intrader> Anyone, Good morning - I am having an overheating problem with Lenovo t61p laptop running Linux 12.10. The problem occurs when displaying video at full screen or when a web page has a lot of video clips. Google shows that many laptop users have overheating laptops. Is there a bug in ubuntu?
[19:09] <Lazik> hey intrader: open a terminal and type : lsmod
[19:10] <Lazik> to find out your graphic card (ati, nvidia, intel)
[19:10] <lifebird64> lazik: for me? lsmod? thx.
[19:10] <lifebird64> oh. wait. not 4 me.
[19:11] <Lazik> intrader: actually sudo lshw might be more useful
[19:14] <intrader> Lazik, how do I pastebin this long output?
[19:15] <Dra|n> prashant_123456, cant help you dude im sorry go search in google
[19:17] <Guest83329> what is the sintax that i have to put to mount my nfts disk on boot in  /etc/fstab
[19:17] <Lazik> intrader: you can do : sudo lshw > lshw.txt           that will output to a file, check the graphic card section and check the company name (nvidia, ati, ...)
[19:18] <_genuser_> Guest83329: http://askubuntu.com/questions/113733/how-do-i-correctly-mount-a-ntfs-partition-in-etc-fstab
[19:19] <DJones> intrader: If you've got the command pastebinit installed, you can do "sudo lshw | pastebinit" which will give you a link to list in the channel
[19:21] <intrader> Lazik, DJOnes, cool, the output of lshw http://paste.ubuntu.com/5565605/
[19:25] <intrader> Lazik, DJOnes, how do I pastebin the graphics section?
[19:26] <wachpwnski> What is a good program to store login and passwords with? or a good encryptions container to use?
[19:26] <cerebrate> how do i make a script to disable my touchpad from bootup
[19:27] <tgm4883> wachpwnski, I use lastpass
[19:27] <tgm4883> wachpwnski, but if you want to keep it locally, keepass
[19:27] <Guest16586> Anyone here attempting to flash ios device to ubuntu touch?
[19:28] <Guest83329> how can i remove somthing form dash home
[19:28] <Guest16586> Anyone here attempting to flash ios device to ubuntu touch?
[19:29] <IdleOne> !touch | Guest16586
[19:29] <IdleOne> !phone
[19:29] <detrix42> I need help with setting up apache2. in #apache2 channel there is only one other person there besides myself.  Is there a better channel to get help?
[19:30] <Zentaur> hi
[19:30] <Zentaur> could anybody help me with my conection manager?
[19:31] <Zentaur> I use ubuntu 12.04 and internet wors on it but it detects no conection
[19:32] <intrader> Lazik the graphics section of lshw is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5565633/
[19:32] <Zentaur> I repaired t by editing a fle long ago but I can't remember now.
[19:32] <detrix42> ls
[19:32] <detrix42> dam wrong widnow
[19:34] <debeer> Hi, can anyone help me to set up my laptop's internal 3G? Option GTM 378 (Internal Mini PCi-e).
[19:37] <debeer> Hi, can anyone help me to set up my laptop's internal 3G? Option GTM 378 (Internal Mini PCi-e).
[19:37] <debeer> I am using Ubuntu 12.04
[19:37] <pc_magas> debeer does it see as usb cd rom?
[19:37] <pc_magas> then it nees a command to fix this (which I do not know)
[19:38] <debeer> It shows when I us lsusb but there's no icon on the desk.
[19:41] <debeer> Hi, can anyone help me to set up my laptop's internal 3G? Option GTM 378 (Internal Mini PCi-e).
[19:41] <debeer>  From the articles I read I need to use USB_MODESWITCH to fix this but I can't find clear instructions on this?
[19:42] <intrader> Lazik anything else about the overheating problem? How is the display involved?
[19:42] <KI4RO> debeer, Asking over and over and over again will not help.  be patient
[19:44] <Pwnguin1> So is this channel for general discussion about Ubuntu or just for help with the OS?
[19:45] <kostkon> Pwnguin1, this channel is for support, #ubuntu-offtopic is for discussion
[19:45] <marahin> Help with issues rather.
[19:45] <Pwnguin1> Allright
[19:46] <Mip5> Hi - "Reading package lists..." takes several minutes (10 or more) and used to be very fast. System ubuntu 12.04.1 dual quad core processors, 24 gigs of ram. Any ideas? Software raid, but /proc/mdstat shows no errors. Thoughts?
[19:47] <detrix42> I just put up a web server at home. Ubuntu server "LAMP".  I have a registered domain name, and its pointing to my home server. I want the www directory in my /home dir on the server.   I have change all config files to point to different www directory, but now apache2 reports "do not have permission to access /"  How do I correct this?
[19:52] <VinceThePrinc> mmm i upgraded from xubuntu 12.04 to 12.10 and some feat. were removed?
[19:52] <VinceThePrinc> is the upgrade worth it? or is 12.04 just find
[19:53] <An-IP-BreAKDoWN> 12.04 is just fine
[19:54] <newbie5thDay> i m using ubuntu 9.1  and i  receive this error  can not recover  http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/karmic/main/source/Sources.gz  404  Not Found [IP : 91.189.92.200 80]
[19:56] <newbie5thDay> i m using ubuntu 9.1  and i  receive this error  can not recover  http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/karmic/main/source/Sources.gz  404  Not Found [IP : 91.189.92.200 80]
[19:56] <DJones> newbie5thDay: 9.10 is end of life, its no longer supported
[19:57] <ioria> yep, me too .. i'm using commodore 64 but i cannot install ubuntu ....
[19:57] <Lazik> intrader: Nvidia graphic cards use the nouveau driver in general. You can verify this with lsmod. In most case the nouveau driver fails to control the fan of the graphic card to prevent overheating
[19:57] <GeekSquid> newbie5thDay: you can upgrade it see /msg ubottu !eol
[19:58] <Lazik> intrader: you can google how to install the nvidia proprietary driver, it might fix the issue
[19:58] <newbie5thDay> DJones: it s for educational purposes that i use 9.1
[19:59] <newbie5thDay> GeekSquid: : it s for educational purposes that i use 9.1
[19:59] <bean__> newbie5thDay: well, you can't get updates on 9.10 any more
[19:59] <bean__> newbie5thDay: and no one will support it, since it is end of life'd
[20:00] <bean__> !eol | newbie5thDay
[20:00] <Venks_> how do i make the unity icons smaller than the size 32 ?
[20:00] <GeekSquid> bean__: Wrong ... you can update it
[20:00] <bean__> to a new release.
[20:00] <bean__> but the ubuntu repos won't work
[20:00] <bean__> i dont think
[20:00] <GeekSquid> newbie5thDay: we have new releases every 6 months, and karmic is from 2009 and is no longer officially supported, there are upgrade paths from 9.1 or if you need to install something from that repository it would be located at http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ ... you will need to update your sources.list
[20:01] <Venks_> anyone ?
[20:01] <gmachine_24> Greetings all. Simplistic question re: running a 'headless' server (or computer); what happens when the headless computer shuts down unexpectedly, say from a power failure? Must I connect a monitor to it to reboot and log in? I know this is a newbie question.
[20:01] <iciraus> Hi! I recently installed ubuntu and noticed that in Empathy i can no longer add Facebook chat, its says to authorize and opens the browser..? and the browser just says "success". Is there a work around? i know this was not an issue on a recent install i had on ubuntu.
[20:02] <bean__> gmachine_24: no, normally you would have an SSH server installed.
[20:02] <intrader> Lazik, the nvidea driver shows as installed - what is the nouveau driver - sound like a the  driver is not controlling the fan?
[20:02] <gmachine_24> bean__: which means, what, I'm sorry; that I'm always connected via ssh to another computer?
[20:03] <bean__> gmachine_24: yes, you would connect with either putty on windows or using the SSH command from another linux box.
[20:03] <bean__> gmachine_24: the local login will not matter.
[20:03] <GeekSquid> gmachine_24: sounds like you need to set in your bios to have the computer automatically start after powerloss/restore, you can log into it via ssh remotely provided it is connected to the network and has a public IP that you can connect to
[20:03] <gmachine_24> and...... I do not have ssh server installed on that computer; do I need to install that?
[20:04] <intrader> Lazik, this is the lsmod output http://paste.ubuntu.com/5565730/
[20:04] <bean__> gmachine_24: apt-get install openssh-server
[20:05] <newbie5thDay> GeekSquid: bean  ubottu : ok do i have to replace./remove   this line  or what.?
[20:05] <gmachine_24> bean__: OK, thanks. Currently it's connected to my home network with an ip addy like 192.168.xx.xxx etc.
[20:05] <newbie5thDay> GeekSquid: bean  ubottu : ok do i have to replace./remove   this line  or what.?
[20:06] <newbie5thDay> GeekSquid bean  ubottu : ok do i have to replace./remove   this line  or what.?
[20:06] <bean__> yeah, that makes sense, gmachine_24. If you want to externally you'll have to do some port forwarding on your router
[20:06] <bean__> !patience newbie5thDay
[20:06] <bean__> !patience | newbie5thDay
[20:06] <bean__> newbie5thDay: also, ubottu is a bot
[20:06] <Lazik> intrader: the nouveau driver is an open source version of the nvidia driver. It can be many things like the driver for linux for your motherboard, your cpu fan or your graphic card is using incorrect voltages or that the fan controlling algorithm is not very efficient. Meaning that it will let the temperature go too high. Can't help you more than that
[20:07] <newbie5thDay> sorry guys it was an accident --"
[20:08] <GeekSquid> newbie5thDay: please don't repeat, we have to think for a minute sometimes, ... you will need to edit /etc/apt/sources.list and change every http://archive.* to http://old-releases.* ... type "gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" into your terminal
[20:09] <intrader> Lazik, it gives me a good start to look at the fan control of the nvidia driver shows 3D-accelerated proprietary graphics driver for NVIDIA cards. Required if you want to run Unity. It is active
[20:10] <moultonr> All of the tutorials I see for rooting an LG VS910 phone are for Windows.  Where's a linux user to go?
[20:10] <GeekSquid> moultonr: xda-developers.com
[20:11] <Pwnguin1>  I'm new to IRC and such so I don't know much about it. Who are FloodBot1, 2 and 3? What do they do?
[20:11] <newbie5thDay> GeekSquid: done   and again sorry for the repeat thing it was an accident :)
[20:12] <bean__> Pwnguin1: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Floodbots
[20:12] <ryanneufeld> I'm trying to do an update, and I"m getting this error "update-gconf-defaults: error: Destination directory does not exist."
[20:12] <Pwnguin1> TY
[20:12] <GeekSquid> Pwnguin1: If somebody comes in and starts spamming the channel they will get kicked by the floodbots
[20:13] <ryanneufeld> anyone have any idea what's up with
[20:13] <newbie5thDay> now this is my what source list  contain after the modification deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu karmic-security main restricted multiverse
[20:13] <ryanneufeld> update-gconf-defaults: error: Destination directory does not exist."
[20:13] <newbie5thDay> deb-src http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu karmic-security restricted main universe #Added by software-properties
[20:13] <newbie5thDay> deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu karmic-security universe
[20:13] <Premnath> hi all could any one help me how to install the tar.bz2 files in ubuntu12.04?
[20:13] <GeekSquid> ryanneufeld: you are also running a unsupported version of ubuntu
[20:13] <bean__> !paste | newbie5thDay:
[20:13] <ryanneufeld> GeekSquid: what?
[20:13] <bean__> !patience ryanneufeld
[20:13] <intrader> Lazik, noticed that the fan output of PSensor shows it varies (fan1 3059RPM), yet I don't hear it How do I verify this?
[20:14] <bean__> !patience | ryanneufeld
[20:14] <moultonr> GeekSquid, either my phone isn't listed, or their search is broken.  I hunted for LG and got nothing, though I see the Optimus in the forum, so I'm guessing search is borked.
[20:14] <bean__> Premnath: what software are you attempting to install
[20:14] <ryanneufeld> GeekSquid: I"m running 12.04 LTS... how is that not supported?
[20:15] <GeekSquid> ryanneufeld: sorry, i was wrong.. what was gconf trying to update when the error was thrown
[20:16] <GeekSquid> moultonr: I'd take your question to #android or another associated channel, this is ubuntu support we don't support phones YET
[20:16] <yown> Is there a way to dd or 0fill a partition, rather then the whole drive?
[20:17] <moultonr> GeekSquid, yet.  heh...
[20:18] <GeekSquid> moultonr: they just released the source http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/phone ... I got to see it this weekend and play with it, had beers with Jono Bacon, really awesome weekend at SCALE in Los Angeles
[20:19] <moultonr> GeekSquid, there probably ought to be a whole other chat for phones though once they go live.
[20:20] <GeekSquid> moultonr: Yeah, We Got That! #ubuntu-touch
[20:22] <yown> anyone?
[20:23] <smallfoot-> hmm
[20:23] <smallfoot-> How can I get a list of packages that are installed by default in Ubuntu, but is not installed on my system?
[20:23] <smallfoot-> Also, how can I get a list of packages that are on my system, but not part of the default Ubuntu install?
[20:24] <detrix42> I just put up a web server at home. Ubuntu server "LAMP".  I have a registered domain name, and its pointing to my home server. I want the www directory in my /home dir on the server.   I have change all config files to point to different www directory, but now apache2 reports "do not have permission to access /"  How do I correct this?
[20:25] <unheeding> smallfoot-: for your first query, there are some "meta packages" that have as "dependencies" all the packages of a normal ubuntu install
[20:25] <unheeding> smallfoot-: i think "ubuntu-desktop" is one of them.  try and install it and see what dependencies it brings in
[20:26] <smallfoot-> unheeding, it is obviously already installed
[20:26] <unheeding> smallfoot-: then you have all the regular ubuntu packages installed
[20:26] <smallfoot-> unheeding, unless i, someone, or something have uninstalled a package
[20:27] <unheeding> another one is called ubuntu-minimal
[20:27] <GeekSquid> smallfoot-: and that can happen when installing other packages
[20:27] <mango1_> If I want to route my traffic from my laptop through an ubuntu server I have at home, where would I start?
[20:28] <smallfoot-> GeekSquid, yeah, and when upgrade dist, some packages are no longer part of ubuntu, and others are new
[20:28] <GeekSquid> mango1_: make your server a router
[20:28] <yown> Is there a way to dd or 0fill a partition, rather then the whole drive?
[20:29] <bean__> detrix42: change the permissions so that apache can access. it probably needs to be set to "chgrp www-data foldername" and then make sure that it is group readable
[20:29] <GeekSquid> smallfoot-: correct, always check, if you are running something special in production, always dev test an upgrade
[20:29] <smallfoot-> GeekSquid, so how can I find out what packages are on my system but no longer part of Ubuntu? and how can I find packages that are not on my system, but part of Ubuntu?
[20:30] <mango1_> GeekSquid: sorry, I mean if I'm on my laptop on another wifi network (say at a coffee shop) and want to tunnel through an ubuntu machine on a separate network (say may apartment)
[20:30] <GeekSquid> mango1_: you could setup a tor server
[20:31] <Guest1312> quit
[20:31] <GeekSquid> mango1_: essentially using your apartment server as a proxy... the other way would be to create a vpn on the home server and connect through it
[20:31] <mango1_> GeekSquid: that seems unsafe for my purposes
[20:31] <mango1_> GeekSquid: ah, yeah a VPN
[20:32] <GeekSquid> mango: it is called VPS .. we use it all the time
[20:32] <detrix42> bean__: so only the group needs to be www-data?
[20:32] <bean__> probably
[20:32] <mango1_> GeekSquid: sorry I meant making a tor node for my traffic.
[20:32] <mango1_> GeekSquid: I will look into setting up a VPN
[20:34] <GeekSquid> mango1_: you'll need to open up an ip on the outside router and point the VPS port to the ubuntu server, you'll either have to have a static ip or use something like no-ip
[20:34] <mango1_> yown: same way you would a drive, no? dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda3 bs=x count=y
[20:35] <GeekSquid> Checking out... back in a while
[20:35] <mango1_> GeekSquid: I was actually just looking at DynDNS -- I didn't know that was a pay-service now. Once I get a static address, what program should I use for a VPN?
[20:36] <GeekSquid> !vpn
[20:37] <GeekSquid> mango1_: you could write a script to email you the IP address of the outside network once an hour or so,, another option
[20:38] <mango1_> GeekSquid: I was actually just thinking about doing that with a cron job. Thanks for the idea
[20:38] <gmulak> GeekSquid:  Great to see you there, and thanks for your help.   And yes, the phone was cool.  I was very nice of Jono Bacon to sign my copy of his book, he was great to talk to.
[20:39] <skorasaurus> !bug
[20:39] <markovh> anyone know any quick keyboard switcher options? i want to try using dvorak but i want to be able to quickly switch back frequently
[20:39] <packetfrog> agh
[20:39] <storrgie> Weird question for this group... but with a host of technical people someone might have done this. I'm looking to convert my families 8mm tapes to files. I am a linux user and was hoping I could buy a device that would do this for me (like the VHS to DVD devices) but it looks like I need to get a capture card
[20:39] <storrgie> Long question short: has anyone used capture cards in linux successfully and would you be willing to recommend one?
[20:40]  * _goxxsy_ veche ! :-) :D
[20:41] <trueneu> markovh: what exactly do you mean? What stops you from using standard layout changing hotkeys?
[20:42] <elisa87> Why am I receiving this error ? ldd /home/jalal/Desktop/hpctoolkit/gpu_install/libexec/hpcviewer/hpcviewer  :: not a dynamic executable
[20:42] <markovh> trueneu: you mean hotkeys for changing the layout from qwerty to dvorak?
[20:43] <gmulak> storgie:  Here is one source you could try.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToCaptureDigitalVideo.
[20:43] <smallfoot-> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/raring-desktop-amd64.manifest
[20:43] <trueneu> elisa87: probably because it's compiled statically, or it's not an executable at all. I might be wrong.
[20:43] <smallfoot-> here is a list of packages installed by default
[20:43] <mehdi_> How can whats added to update-rc.d to run - i want to know users / rights on which services are being run
[20:44] <trueneu> markovh: yup, exactly. I use three layouts, qwerty, dvorak and ru and switch between them with the windows key.
[20:44] <markovh> trueneu: how exactly?
[20:45] <woozly> guys, how to speed up Ubuntu-Server 12.04 boot time?
[20:45] <coolroot> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5564842/ it's my laptops distro in a serious messed up :(
[20:45] <woozly> base install
[20:45] <markovh> at what stage does it apply btw? i want to keep my desktop manager and ttys as qwerty to stop myself getting locked out
[20:45] <woozly> I'm on linode, and ubuntu-server boot time too long. ~ 40-60 secs
[20:46] <woozly> but on work I have Centos and it bootup ~ 15-20 secs
[20:46] <trueneu> markovh: it's configured with GUI in keyboard settings section in your system settings. I may mess the exact captions though.
[20:46] <markovh> sure but there isn't a predefined one for changing keyboard settings, new ones require a command so i assume there's some command you're using to change the layout?
[20:48] <trueneu> markovh: nope, it`s all configurable with ubuntu`s GUI. You can choose from winkeys, alt/shift/ctrl combinations etc etc.
[20:48] <packetfrog> Im sure you can google it.
[20:50] <Dave77> can somebody give me link to script that can playback youtube from the command line?
[20:50] <fidel> Dave77: playback? or download?
[20:50] <coolroot> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5564842/ it's my laptops distro in a serious messed up :(
[20:52] <elisa87>  ldd ./hpcviewer::	not a dynamic executable :: does anyone know the reason and if there's a fix to this?
[20:52] <Akshayr> what is Unity in ubuntu?
[20:52] <Akshayr> i s it by default installed
[20:52] <Akshayr> ?
[20:53] <fidel> Akshayr: yes it is a default package
[20:53] <trueneu> elisa87: what exactly are you trying to achieve?
[20:53] <Akshayr> so how can i access it>
[20:54] <fidel> Akshayr: by default you do nothing - install from a current default ubunut desktop iso  and login after install andyou'll see and use unity already
[20:54] <fidel> Dave77: take a look at youtube-dl
[20:54] <Akshayr> fidel:thank u
[20:54] <elisa87> trueneu: to run the executable  hpcviewer
[20:55] <trueneu> elisa87: ldd is for finding out shared library dependencies.
[20:55] <coolroot> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5564842/ pls anyone help been here for 3 or more hours :(
[20:55] <bulletrulz> i have a problem with my lubuntu install everything is a little cut off at the top of the mointer
[20:56] <Akshayr> urgent help!!!! i unknowingly clckd ctrl-z while i was updating my ubuntu
[20:56] <Akshayr> can i resume it >
[20:56] <Akshayr> any command?
[20:56] <trueneu> elisa87: why just not actually run it? And probably give it a chmod +x, and probably do 'file -s ./hpcviewer' just to make sure it's a binary file.
[20:58] <leaked_hot> [HOT][LEAK][FRESH][VENDETTA] => http://pastebin.com/i1pZMzbW || deface it for fun and profit!
[20:59] <gmulak> bulletrulz:  There is most likely a problem syncing your monitor.  Ubuntu may need a different driver for the video card.  Try a different monitor, or different video card, if you can?
[21:00] <Akshayr> best site to learn python??
[21:01] <bulletrulz> gmulak, no cause installed lubuntu on this system and it worked flawlessyly
[21:01] <TechSmurf> probability of dist-upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04 going horribly wrong?
[21:02] <elisa87> trueneu:   file /home/jalal/Desktop/hpctoolkit/gpu_install/libexec/hpcviewer/hpcviewer
[21:02] <elisa87> /home/jalal/Desktop/hpctoolkit/gpu_install/libexec/hpcviewer/hpcviewer: ELF 64-bit MSB executable, 64-bit PowerPC or cisco 7500, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.4.19, not stripped
[21:02] <VinceThePrince> I'm in the settings editor I have edited the key "<Super>d" but to what command do I have to bind it to show desktop?
[21:02] <Pinocchio> Ciao Popolo Di #ubuntu -> mIRC Explorer 2.0b <-
[21:02] <CHRISHP> Hey there, I'm running an HP pavilion g6 2244ca, 64 bit, I'm having difficulty getting the wireless to work
[21:02] <trueneu> elisa87: do an uname -a, plaease.
[21:03] <Pinocchio> Un Saluto A Tutti Di #ubuntu -> mIRC Explorer 2.0b <-
[21:03] <Akshayr> quit
[21:03] <elisa87> trueneu:  Linux dfyhs5l1 3.2.0-38-generic #61-Ubuntu SMP Tue Feb 19 12:18:21 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[21:05] <trueneu> elisa87: I might know what the problem is. That binary is compiled for a horribly another architecture using a horribly different kernel.
[21:06] <trueneu> So, no chance to run it at all.
[21:07] <trueneu> elisa87: just download a fresh version and compile it on your system.
[21:11] <coolroot> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5564842/ pls anyone help been here for 3 or more hours :(
[21:11] <trueneu> coolroot: probably the problem is with how you asking for help. Just a thought.
[21:12] <coolroot> trueneu: so that's why i'm providing a link not for me to explain
[21:13] <packetfrog> coolroot whats the problem?
[21:13] <packetfrog> in your words.
[21:13] <coolroot> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5564842/ packetfrog
[21:13] <packetfrog> in your words.
[21:14] <genii-around> Looks like trying to boot from sda7 which I don't think is possible
[21:14] <coolroot> packetfrog:  just tryin to give the link everything is in there can't even explain it so why ask me?
[21:15] <packetfrog> coolroot Then do not ask for help
[21:15] <packetfrog> When asking for help state your problem, what you did, what happened, and what you expected to happen.
[21:15] <coolroot> packetfrog: so what's the point of ubuntu bug report then?
[21:15] <fidel> !details
[21:15] <dwatkins> What would the summary of this bug report be, coolroot?
[21:15] <packetfrog> No one in here cares enough to read through a ten page log. without knowing what they are looking for first.
[21:16] <tgm4883> coolroot, that is information from a script made in order to give you information about your systems booting
[21:16] <coolroot> ok thanx!
[21:17] <tgm4883> coolroot, is that not what you were looking for?
[21:17] <coolroot> tgm4883: thank you
[21:17] <packetfrog> coolroot: I am not trying to be rude FYI. I would like to help... :P
[21:18] <coolroot> packetfrog: np....
[21:18] <trueneu> Offtopic: '/etc/grub.d/README: 6: Syntax error: "(" unexpected' looks fascinating.
[21:19] <Boris___> nick Boris_
[21:19] <dn4> I forgot my password to log into my system; any way to recover it
[21:20] <tgm4883> trueneu, why update-grub is trying to use README doens't make sense
[21:20] <dn4> wait just remembered it
[21:20] <dn4> F yeah
[21:21] <bizhanMona> hi the command "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:f-muriana/ubuntu-builder" fails does anyone knows why?thx
[21:21] <TheLordOfTime> bizhanMona, what error(s) did it give?
[21:22] <trueneu> tgm4883: indeed it doesn`t.
[21:23] <bizhanMona> TheLordOfTime: http://pastebin.com/ZAbG4uWi   thanks
[21:23] <l43lkr0l> Hi there, I just installed Ubuntu 12.10 and it's all completely new for me (I've never used linux before) but I've read I could get some help here.
[21:23] <TheLordOfTime> bizhanMona, pycurl.error: (7, "couldn't connect to host")  <-- networking issue
[21:23] <k1l> l43lkr0l: just ask
[21:23] <tgm4883> !ask | l43lkr0l
[21:23] <TheLordOfTime> bizhanMona, i think it couldn't connect to LP or whatever
[21:23] <bizhanMona> TheLordOfTime: Thanks
[21:24] <TheLordOfTime> bizhanMona, i just did that in a VM to test, it works here, so it must be at your end
[21:24] <bizhanMona> yes, I think there is a proxy setting, thanks so much
[21:26] <l43lkr0l> That's very kind of ya guys! So here's my first problem - I installed Hedgewars via Ubuntu apps center. It opens just fine, I can see the menu and settings, however when I try to begin a new game it freezes the game. It says "game in progres" but nothing more happens.
[21:26] <CHRISHP> can someone help me? I really cannot get my wifi working,
[21:26] <CHRISHP> 02:00.0 Network controller: Ralink corp. Device 3290
[21:26] <CHRISHP> 02:00.1 Bluetooth: Ralink corp. Device 3298
[21:26] <CHRISHP> 04:00.0 Unassigned class [ff00]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. Device 5229 (rev 01)
[21:26] <FloodBot1> CHRISHP: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:26] <CHRISHP> 05:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller (rev 05)
[21:29] <unheeding> CHRISHP: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1850267
[21:29] <unheeding> it's old, but it should work for you
[21:29] <CHRISHP> thank you very much I'll look into it now,
[21:30] <l43lkr0l> Ok I see noone knows a solution, so I'll try with another one. I use pidgin for this IRC chann, can I do something to turn off notification about people entering, leaving this channel?
[21:31] <CHRISHP> sigh.. unfortunately I already did these exact instructions , they were posted on another website
 ask about hedgewars in #hedgewars
[21:31] <unheeding> l43lkr0l: you should be able to ignore join/parts.  i don't know the instructions for pidgin, i use irssi
[21:31] <trueneu> l43lkr0l: search for a 'show join/part messages' or something setting.
[21:31] <dn4> how do I see a list of all the hardware recognized on my ubuntu
[21:32] <dn4> my wireless pci card isn't showing up
[21:32] <unheeding> http://wiki.xkcd.com/irc/Hide_join_part_messages#Pidgin.2FGaim -> l43lkr0l
[21:32] <l43lkr0l> Thanks unheed, I'm checking it up
[21:32] <ryanneufeld> Can someone help me figure this out? http://pastebin.com/DcHDGK3p
[21:32] <ryanneufeld> I was called away earlier :S
[21:32] <MinnesotaBro> hey guys
[21:34] <trueneu> dmidecode and lspci might be able to help you, dn4.
[21:34] <unheeding> ryanneufeld: try "sudo update-gconf-defaults"
[21:34] <ryanneufeld> unheeding: tried that
[21:34] <ryanneufeld> didn
[21:34] <ryanneufeld> 't work
[21:35] <k1l> ryanneufeld: first of all, root login is not the ubuntu way. next is: what ubuntu version? what PPAs?
[21:35] <dn4> my pci wireless card is now showing up; how do I get ubuntu to look for it on my pci slots
[21:35] <l43lkr0l> What is the quickest way to change channel? e.g to go to #hedgewars?
[21:35] <ryanneufeld> k1l: default ppas and 12.04
[21:35] <l43lkr0l> Using pdigin
[21:35] <Scarberian> so all of a sudden, my unity application switcher backround turned green. is it moldy?
[21:36] <k1l> l43lkr0l: /join #channel
[21:36] <trueneu> l43lkr0l: just do '/join hedgewars'
[21:36] <l43lkr0l> thank you!
[21:36] <trueneu> Oh sry. I forgot the #
[21:36] <k1l> ryanneufeld: can you pastebin a "sudo apt-get update"?
[21:36] <ryanneufeld> k1l: I think I got it
[21:37] <K350> howto set what groups a fiel should belong to?
[21:37] <ryanneufeld> I just did an apt-get remove --purge gconf2
[21:37] <ryanneufeld> k1l: this is a headless machine, or at least it is now.
[21:37] <GeekSquid> K350: where, what dir, what is it being used for, who needs access to it???
[21:38] <k1l> !pastebinit | ryanneufeld
[21:39] <trueneu> K350: man chown
[21:39] <K350> c
[21:43] <bilou23> when trying to  install VLC from the store, it asks me for the root password, I don't know it, I've never set it, I tried with mine witouth success, what should I do?
[21:43] <Scarberian> how do I change unity launcher color. Mine somehow became green
[21:45] <LaserShark> Scarberian, this means the launcher is sick, give it an ibuprofen and wait a day
[21:46] <LaserShark> Scarberian, if that doesn't work see this link http://www.noobslab.com/2012/04/install-unsettings-tweak-tool-on-ubuntu.html
[21:46] <Scarberian> hmm in my googling I found that it chooses its color from the pixel in the center of the wall paper
[21:46] <Scarberian> i did change to a green wally today
[21:46] <k1l> Scarberian: that colors to the background
[21:47] <Scarberian> yeah, the backround of my unity launcher is green now
[21:47] <k1l> bilou23: the "sudo" password is the password for that user
[21:47] <Dave77> how do I list all the apps installed on ubuntu in a menu?
[21:47] <Dave77> (like old ubuntu)
[21:48] <k1l> Dave123: press super+a
[21:48] <k1l> Dave123: on the right side there is a menue to open
[21:48] <sk1pper> hi all, can somebody tell me how to find which command is executed when i start a program? i am using ubuntu 12.04
[21:49] <bulletrulz> i have a problem with lubunut for some reason the top of the screen looks like a little tiny bit is cut off
[21:51] <kirk601> hi everybody
[21:52] <kirk601> anyone remember helping me yesterday? or talking to me? about ssd's and hard drives?
[21:52] <k1l> !ask | kirk601
[21:52] <kirk601> ubottu: sure thing, that's not what i'm doing though... bot
[21:53] <kirk601> ubottu: i know you aren't intelligent. you were just wrong like one minute ago.
[21:54] <k1l> kirk601: instead of fooling around you could ask a specific technical support question :/
[21:55] <kirk601> kil, there's nobody to talk to and the person i need isn't here.
[21:55] <kirk601> they were gabbing up a storm yesterday, if you aren't asnwering a question are you not allowed to talk here?
[21:55] <k1l> !ot > kirk601
[21:55] <kirk601> or asking
[21:56] <Myrtti> kirk601: you could check the logs for the nickname
[21:57] <kirk601> Myrtti: thanks for the tip, but i'm not sure irssi does logs, if it does i dunno how to check em lol
[21:57] <kirk601> Myrtti: i'll google it, ty again
[21:57] <Myrtti> kirk601: then again I don't know what nickname you used yesterday
[21:57] <kirk601> Myrtti: the same
[21:57] <Myrtti> !logs | kirk601
[21:57] <DJones> !logs | kirk601
[21:58] <fragend_2013> Could anybody tell me how to set a specific bitrate to 54 Mbit? - to limit it I mean. I have WiFi problems and just trying some solutions, - beginner so dont know the tricks
[21:58] <Travelian> Hello there.
[21:59] <Travelian> I'm having some problems with my laptop graphic card with ubuntu 12.10.
[21:59] <Travelian> I only get 300 fps with glxgears...
[21:59] <Travelian> And youtube videos are a big pain to watch...
[21:59] <k1l> Travelian: glxgears is _not_ a benchmark
[21:59] <bilou23> k1l: ok, I don't know it, and by searching I found I shouldn't change it, it is a generated hash and instead I should do "sudo ..." but i'm not on the command line.. it's the ubuntu store
[21:59] <trueneu> fragend_2013: probably you just want to switch off the n modulation mode?
[21:59] <Travelian> I have a Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller
[21:59] <Travelian> k1l, well, maybe youtube is :P
[22:00] <Travelian> The thing is it's really really slow...
[22:00] <fragend_2013> @trueneu yes I think this is it
[22:00] <Travelian> maybe its driver related...
[22:01] <Travelian> Can someone aid me?
[22:02] <Travelian> Cause the rest of ubuntu is running PERFECTLY.
[22:03] <trueneu> fragend_2013: probably you want something like 'sudo iwconfig wlan0 modu 11g' . If it doesn't work, try to google the instructions for your specific adapter.
[22:03] <jdukiet> I just tried using the "grub-customizer" to change my boot order, and it didn't work. Does anyone know what the issue is ? I'm running 12.04 LTS.
[22:04] <trueneu> fragend_2013: I can't remember exact details as it was around a year ago, but I had problems with my laptop`s wi-fi card and I had to change it`s module config to turn the n modulation off.
[22:05] <Dave77> where can I find help.. info about programming C++ in linux?
[22:05] <l43lkr0l> How do I get right ATI drivers for Radeon X1200?
[22:05] <smallfoot-> "dpkg -l" lists only installed packages? didn't it used to list all packages?
[22:06] <fragend_2013> treueneu: Thanks I will do it. the command depends on the driver/hardware?
[22:06] <ponch0> Can anyone help me out, i can't find anything, I have Lubuntu interface, lightweight version and the text size in terminal is tiny but I don't have the option "cutomize look and feel" in preferences.
[22:06] <k1l> smallfoot-: no
[22:06] <fragend_2013> its a known bug by the way
[22:06] <Quest>  I have encrypted my ntfs partition on the run (it had data inside it before encryption) what are the chances that data recovery tools may reveal the data (ignore brute force attack for password recovery) ? (tool used is true crypt)
[22:07] <escott> Quest, 0
[22:07] <l43lkr0l> I'm running 12.10, I was told to get Synapsis and find fglrx to fix problem with the driver. What do I do with this 'fglrx-driver.desktop"?
[22:07] <smallfoot-> k1l, no to which question?
[22:07] <Quest> escott,  sure?
[22:07] <Quest> escott,   recovery tools which recover formated partitions cannot do that too?
[22:08] <trueneu> fragend_2013: It seems that some cards/drivers don`t support changing the modulation that way. And the actual commands/config lines depend on what driver you're using.
[22:08] <escott> Quest, assuming the truecrypt guys know what they are doing which i'm fairly sure they do
[22:08] <ponch0> How to change font size inside terminal lubuntu, no option for "custimze look and feel" anyone?
[22:08] <Travelian> Thanks for the "help".
[22:08] <l43lkr0l> Travelian, I think If anyone knew how to help, they would...
[22:09] <noiro> hey guys, I just rebooted my computers and my speakers suddenly stopped working. In sound settings my only output option is dummy output....any idea what happened?
[22:09] <fragend_2013> treuneu: are there possible driver updates? dont know yet how things on ubuntu works.  maybe that would solve it
[22:10] <k1l> smallfoot-: it didnt show all possible packages. just the installed
[22:10] <alumno> mmm, interesante...
[22:11] <trueneu> fragend_2013: I`m not an ubuntu/debian expert neither, I don`t think I can help you with that particular question, Sorry.
[22:12] <szymon_w> How could I get list of image editors installed on the system ? ( terminal )
[22:13] <ikonia> szymon_w: dpkg -l | grep $PACKAGE
[22:14] <ollie4> hi. i have a problem wih i3wm. it freezes when starting. i also get random internal errors in all desktop environments i am using. http://funkyimg.com/viewer.php?img=/2/3135/901/232326error.png
[22:14] <ssm2017> salut
[22:14] <FatDarrel> yo!
[22:15] <fragend_2013> trueneu: ok i will try that thanks
[22:15] <ssm2017> sur une 12.04 workstation, je crois que le reseau est gere par network manager
[22:15] <trueneu> np, fragend_2013
[22:16] <ollie4> any idea?
[22:16] <ssm2017> j'aimerais forcer l'ip statique mais par ssh. avez vous une idee de comment faire car je crois que /etc/network/interface ne gere pas eth0 (me trompe je ?)
[22:16] <GeekSquid> !es
[22:16] <GeekSquid> !fr
[22:16] <k1l> !fr | ssm2017
[22:16] <ssm2017> oops; sorry, i thous that i was in french chnnel :)
[22:17] <szymon_w> ikonia, it kind of works... but I meant instead providing $PACKAGE I want to provide like: "Image editors" and bam... list of image editors.
[22:21] <socomm> Hello I am trying to run a few virtualbox machines at boot can anyone help me?
[22:23] <unheeding> socomm: are you using Unity (regular ubuntu)?
[22:23] <k1l> szymon_w: "apt-cache search "
[22:24] <amicrawler2012> hey guys  i need help i'm getting a 404 error on my ubunut 10.10
[22:24] <amicrawler2012> is there a work around for this
[22:25] <k1l> !eol | amicrawler2012
[22:25] <amicrawler2012> when i try to install software
[22:25] <k1l> amicrawler2012: 10.10 is way out of support. you should really consider upgrades
[22:25] <amicrawler2012> it a old computer
[22:25] <max451f> Hi there, can anyone help me?
[22:25] <k1l> amicrawler2012: that is no reason for using an unsupported OS
[22:25] <amicrawler2012> i dont think i will handel 12
[22:26] <dward> maybe
[22:26] <k1l> amicrawler2012: see Lubuntu for example
[22:26] <amicrawler2012> it is  AMD
[22:26] <amicrawler2012> lubuntu ?
[22:26] <k1l> !lubuntu | amicrawler2012
[22:26] <TonTon> hi, kennt sich jemand mit dem 3.8 kernel aus und könnte mir mit einem treiber helfen?
[22:26] <szymon_w> k1l, will try it... thanks
[22:27] <max451f> I using Ubuntu 12.10 on Fujitsu-siemens UH 552 an thi sis my issue: after shutdown my laptom starts up automaticly
[22:27] <max451f> no signs of wake on lan in BIOS, I checked
[22:27] <k1l> TonTon: deutscher support ist in #ubuntu-de :)  aber mit eigenen kerneln musst du eh eigenen support machen
[22:28] <dward> well that is quite strange,how do you shut it down max451f
[22:28] <max451f> also, in my wireless adapter WOL is disabled
[22:28] <amicrawler2012> it is a amd athlon xp 3200
[22:28] <dward> max451f what happens when you use hold the power button to do a force shutdown? does it stay off?
[22:29] <max451f> yes
[22:29] <amicrawler2012> 512 MB ram
[22:29] <max451f> but after few seconds starts up
[22:29] <amicrawler2012> K11
[22:29] <amicrawler2012> will it support 12
[22:29] <dward> max451f did this just start or has it been like this since install
[22:29] <max451f> also, tryed install Win7 - there is no such issue
[22:29] <amicrawler2012> on a amd xp 3200 with 512 ram
[22:30] <sw0rdfish> hey it says this package is of bad quality .... Details: "The package doesn't provide a valid Installed-Size control field. See Debian Policy 5.6.20."
[22:30] <sw0rdfish> for synergy .deb installation file (the one in the repos is old version)
[22:30] <manners13> hey guys has anyone tried using open xchange as im having no luck with sogo
[22:30] <dward> max451f did this just start or has it been like this since install
[22:30] <sw0rdfish> is it safe for me to continue...
[22:30] <max451f> this issue starts few days ago
[22:30] <k1l> amicrawler2012: try Lubuntu, like i said
[22:30] <dward> max451f did you change anything?
[22:30] <amicrawler2012> lubunut
[22:30] <max451f> unly updating
[22:30] <dward> max451f or remember installing anything?
[22:31] <amicrawler2012> i dont want to do a fresh install
[22:31] <sw0rdfish> ???
[22:31] <max451f> installing - not unusual, just gvim and ruby
[22:31] <max451f> oh, also installed Oracle JDK 7
[22:32] <sidney_> how do i install drivers in ubuntu 12.04
[22:32] <sidney_> my cd dosent work
[22:33] <max451f> :dward any ideas with this issue?
[22:34] <dward> max451f sounds like an issure with grub
[22:34] <dward> see if this works.
[22:34] <dward> sudo vim /etc/default/grub
[22:34] <k1l> amicrawler2012: you have to do 3 upgrades to get to the next supported ubuntu version. so i would consider a reinstall
[22:34] <dward> max451f then set GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="acpi=noirq quiet splash"
[22:35] <amicrawler2012> what can i do  to use whats there
[22:35] <amicrawler2012> i get 404 errors
[22:35] <dward> max451f then run sudo update-grub
[22:35] <k1l> !eol | amicrawler2012
[22:35] <k1l> amicrawler2012: read that message!
[22:35] <amicrawler2012> i read about the old ubuntu
[22:35] <dward> max451f and seei if the problem persists
[22:35] <max451f> :dward OK, trying ...
[22:35] <max451f> thanks
[22:35] <amicrawler2012> but i get 404 as well when i add to the source list
[22:36] <dward> sure good luck
[22:36] <amicrawler2012> i think i'm doing somthing wrong
[22:36] <k1l> amicrawler2012: that is what is meant with: not supported anymore
[22:36] <k1l> amicrawler2012: no support. no packages. no updates, no security updates,...
[22:37] <amicrawler2012> so cani add the old source list from the old  ubunut site
[22:37] <dward> what was GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT set to before you changed it max451f
[22:37] <max451f> :dward RUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="i8042.notimeout i8042.nomux"
[22:37] <k1l> amicrawler2012: you need to upgrade!
[22:37] <amicrawler2012> ok
[22:38] <amicrawler2012> i will let them know
[22:38] <k1l> amicrawler2012: your machine has security issues that a 9year old learns to break in his school lessons
[22:38] <max451f> :dward "i8042.notimeout i8042.nomux" - I added to make my touchpad work
[22:39] <yown> How do you zero write/dd etc. a partition, without doing the whole drive?
[22:39] <k1l> yown: target dd to that partition
[22:39] <k1l> yown: but be aware to check twice hitting the right partition :)
[22:39] <dward> max451f, not sure what i told you will actually to help but it's a start
[22:40] <marrrk> Hi! I just installed ubuntu and wifi was working fine. Then I ran an update and now the wifi has issues. I have an IP address assigned, but I can't even ping my default gateway. I tried disabling "n-mode" to no avail. What else could I try. The thing is a WUSB54GC USB card.
[22:41] <yown> K11 I was given instructions for determining path for dd "sudo fdisk -l" but this only lists whole drives, not partition paths
[22:41] <marrrk> Obviously now that I took the thing out to read the exact number and put it back in, it works. Thank you IT Crowd.
[22:41] <dward> max451f, i found the bug i think https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/995647/
[22:42] <yown> K1l How do I determine path to partition?
[22:42] <dward> max451f, also try shutting of power managment mode in the bios
[22:43] <k1l> yown: that should list the partitions. you are sure there are any?
[22:44] <XSevenX> Is there anyone here who can help me figure out a problem with Java?
[22:45] <XSevenX> I'm trying to get Runescape to function, but I don't know how to install Java and the instructions on the Java website are confusing
[22:45] <XSevenX> I'm only getting error messages when I follow them, and I'm not even sure if I'm using the right directory
[22:45] <XSevenX> here are the instructions: http://www.java.com/en/download/help/linux_x64_install.xml
[22:46] <XSevenX> I typed "cd /home/", and I'm not even sure if that's the correct directory, but the file is located in my Home folder
[22:46] <yown> k1l: positive, I made them myself and see them clear as day in navigator.
[22:47] <k1l> yown: is it lvm or encrypted or smth?
[22:48] <XSevenX> I then typed "tar zxvf jre-7u15-linux-x64.tar.gz", and it gives me an error message "Child returned status 2",  and "Error is not recoverable, exiting now"
[22:48] <XSevenX> why does this have to be so complicated?
[22:48] <XSevenX> why can't I just click a file and install the Java update
[22:48] <IntelRSC> You can.
[22:48] <XSevenX> well then what is all this bullshit?
[22:49] <XSevenX> I went to the Software Center and I installed IcedTea, that didn't get me anywhere
[22:49] <IntelRSC> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:webupd8team/java
[22:49] <IntelRSC> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install oracle-java8-installer
[22:49] <XSevenX> Runescape became functional to the point that I could access the login page- and then it just locks up 24/7
[22:49] <yown> k1l: I am not sure what lvm or smth is, but no, just ordinary partitions. but the command  sudo fdisk -l Just shows the drive, none of its partitioning
[22:49] <_0x783czar> Question about setting the resolv.conf file in Ubuntu.  I come from a centos background and am used to just arbitrarily setting the DNS entries here directly.  In ubuntu I imagine I'm supposed to use the resolvconf folder.  Where should I put those entries so they automatically get populated?
[22:49] <max451f> @dward Unfortunately, it's not help
[22:49] <IntelRSC> tell me how that works for you XsevenX
[22:50] <dward> max451f, try turning off power save mode in bios
[22:50] <yown> k1l: it shows the full drive, as in its size and everything, even though much of it is unpartitioned, so it is the command that is the issue, this command clearly does not show partitioning
[22:50] <max451f> bois very basic, there is no such option
[22:51] <dward> and pastebin sudo lspci -vvnn
[22:51] <XSevenX> thanks IntelRSC , but let me ask you something- how is anyone supposed to just know to do this?
[22:51] <k1l> yown: can you pastebin it? the whole command and output?
[22:51] <dward> so we can see what we are dealing with @max451f
[22:51] <max451f> also, self start happens only when wlan card is on. if I disable it using hardware swith - laptop don't start after shutdown
[22:51] <XSevenX> Why does everything in Ubuntu have to be so ridiculously cryptic, and overly complicated?
[22:53] <dward> try adding apm=off
[22:53] <max451f> @dward http://pastebin.com/NYe78bM8
[22:53] <dward> option to your grub file /etc/default/grub
[22:54] <nightfly> There is some utility that will list all active Ubuntu/lightdm sessions, what utility is this?
[22:56] <XSevenX> hmm
[22:56] <XSevenX> IntelRSC my Runescape application is running EXTREMELY slow
[22:57] <yown> k1l: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5566230/
[22:58] <k1l> yown: did you read what is written there?
[22:58] <XSevenX> this is just ridiculous
[22:58] <kepin_kepan> anyone can help me to install backtrack utilities in ubuntu??
[22:58] <XSevenX> every time I think that I've figured anything out I get even more problems that I have to work out..
[22:58] <XSevenX> this OS is not worth it
[22:59] <WBF> XSevenX, what problems?
[22:59] <XSevenX> well let's see, I can't get any of my applications to function
[22:59] <XSevenX> every time I attempt to get anything to function, I have to look up instructions on how to follow the instructions on how to get the instructions to work
[22:59] <yown> k1l: Forgive me please, but it sounds like you are asking me something so dumb that it is insulting
[22:59] <XSevenX> so it's automatically 5-6 hours of total work to get _ANYTHING_ done on this OS
[22:59] <yown> k1l: Did YOU read what is written there?
[23:00] <K350> /c/leave
[23:00] <XSevenX> and it's not like "oh gee this is so much fun"
[23:00] <XSevenX> it really pisses me off that I can't just have something work
[23:00] <k1l> yown: WARNING: GPT (GUID Partition Table) detected on '/dev/sda'! The util fdisk doesn't support GPT. Use GNU Parted.
[23:00] <h00k> XSevenX: Do you have any specific questions that you can ask?
[23:00] <XSevenX> I'm trying to get Runescape to function
[23:00] <XSevenX> because I've given up on everything else I was trying to get to run
[23:01] <r88j8> I need some help
[23:01] <_0x783czar> Using Ubuntu's resolvconf automatic resolv.conf updater, how to I remove the two default nameservers and replace them with my own?
[23:01] <max451f> @dward apm=off not helps :(
[23:01] <k1l> yown: you see?
[23:01] <h00k> XSevenX: is that run from a Linux client, or web based, or wine?
[23:01] <XSevenX> so I just got help from IntelRSC, who told me how to get the Java update repository, and update my Java
[23:01] <yown> k1l: That just means I was right about that not being a good command for determing partition address, so why don't you tell me a good command for it please, rather then waste more time with analyzing this one.
[23:01] <XSevenX> it runs out of Firefox with Java h00k
[23:01] <r88j8> you still here
[23:01] <Jewfro-Macabbi> _0x783czar, add your nameservers to your /etc/network/interfaces file
[23:01] <XSevenX> it should have no problems running on Linux, but LO AND BEHOLD
[23:01] <k1l> yown: it is a goodcommand, except you have a gpt.
[23:01] <XSevenX> yet ANOTHER application that DOES NOT WORK on linux
[23:02] <r88j8> My ubuntu stopped using my connection and started using a connection i've never seen on my list before
[23:02] <r88j8> is that a hack
[23:02] <h00k> XSevenX: Were you about to get Java to update?
[23:02] <k1l> yown: so that is some kind of info you should have told us. at least when that warning in capital letters came across
[23:02] <h00k> !java | XSevenX
[23:02] <XSevenX> Java is updated to Java 8 h00k
[23:02] <k1l> yown: install gdisk and use that instead
[23:03] <XSevenX> I installed IceTea via the Software Center, as my first attempt to get runescape to work, and that got me past the loading screen, and then the game itself wouldn't load or do anything
[23:03] <dward> max451f; what exactly happens when you run sudo init 0
[23:03] <XSevenX> so the second solution I tried was updating my Java, and I've done that, and now Runescape is just stuck on the loading screen and won't even function at all
[23:03] <yown> k1l: Like I know what gpt mean... and what would be the command using gdisk? Or do I just install gdisk using sudo install gdisk ? then run that old command a second time?
[23:03] <dward> max451f, this is a pretty common bug. you might want to switch back to the earlier kernel
[23:04] <r88j8> Don't know if you heard me earlier so i'm typing again. My ubuntu is using a connection i've never seen before and it switched to this connection while I was online without my permisson. I'm pretty sure this connection wasn't in my list of connections before
[23:04] <k1l> yown: if you dont know and you read that kind of warning or error it would be good to tell. that is my point.
[23:04] <k1l> yown: "sudo apt-get install gdisk"
[23:04] <h00k> XSevenX: it sounds like a Java issue, or a problem with how Runescape handles it's Java stuffs.
[23:05] <k1l> yown: after that run "sudo gdisk /dev/sda"
[23:05] <_0x783czar> Jewfro-Macabbi: hmm, that doesn't seem to be working.  I went into that file, found the dns-nameservers entry which had the default entries and replaced it with my own.  When I ran resolvconf -u it seemed to have no effect.
[23:05] <h00k> XSevenX: Here's a fairly recent post where someone has made a personal package archive to resolve how Runescape handles Java: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/07/how-to-install-runescape-linux-game.html
[23:05] <XSevenX> I'm aware that it's a Java issue- it's an issue with how Linux can't function Java properly
[23:06] <jrib> XSevenX: this channel is for support.  I understand you're frustrated, but let's keep the discussion related to details about your issue; take the ranting elsewhere
[23:06] <XSevenX> I've had TOASTERS, and MICROWAVES that have been able to boot up and immediately run Runescape
[23:06] <Jewfro-Macabbi> XSevenX, you could try using sun-java instead of icedtea
[23:06] <k1l> XSevenX: stop that ranting and flaming if you want volunteer help inside this channel
[23:06] <WBF> XSevenX, have you tried http://paste.ubuntu.com/5566249/
[23:07] <XSevenX> h00k that guide would apply to the current version of Runescape- I'm attempting to run a much older 2007 version of the client which is browser-based only
[23:07] <h00k> XSevenX: ah, that's probably the issue, with the newest Java and an older version of the client.
[23:08] <h00k> XSevenX: in not being familiar with Runescape, is there a reason why you couldn't run that PPA?
[23:08] <XSevenX> I already have the Java ppa
[23:08] <XSevenX> and I've already updated via terminal through the ppa to Java 8
[23:09] <h00k> XSevenX: Is that for the old version of Java?
[23:09] <XSevenX> if I'm having compatibility issues because of IcedTea then I don't even know how to remove it
[23:09] <h00k> XSevenX: If you're using a newer version of Java, and an old version of the Runescape client, it's recipe for disastre
[23:09] <h00k> *disaster
[23:10] <h00k> XSevenX: Give that PPA a shot in the article I sent, apparently it's working for people.
[23:10] <yown> k1l: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5566255/
[23:10] <h00k> XSevenX: and IcedTea is just the browser plugin for whatever java is installed.
[23:11] <XSevenX> h00k that runescape client is a client produced by Jagex to run the CURRENT version of the game, they have RELEASED the OLDER version of their servers because of a protest that the new version sucks
[23:11] <XSevenX> I do not want the new client version, because it can ONLY run the LATEST Runescape version they have out
[23:11] <XSevenX> there isn't an older client because one didn't exist back in 2007
[23:11] <alboywgsupel> Can anybody hear me or am I muted? Just respond
[23:11] <k1l> yown: with "-l"
[23:11] <h00k> XSevenX: well, I'd like to redirect your anger from Ubuntu and on to bad versioning and clients from Runescape ;)
[23:11] <bean__> XSevenX: you're meing incredibly condescending and rude.
[23:11] <bean__> being*(
[23:12] <h00k> XSevenX: anyway...I understand better now.
[23:12] <bean__> alboywgsupel: we hear you
[23:12] <rocky> hello guys
[23:13] <XSevenX> http://www.runescape.com/title.ws - on the front page, they have a vote counter, because people have voted to have the game rollback to the older version of the game
[23:13] <XSevenX> they released the stand-alone client for Runescape some time in 2009, the server rollback is for 2007, therefore a standalone client never existed
[23:13] <yown> k1l: "sudo gdisk /dev/sda -l"?
[23:13] <XSevenX> the game was entire browser based from 1999 to 2007
[23:13] <h00k> XSevenX: and openjdk-6-jre or openjdk-7-jre, paired with icedtea6-plugin or icedtea-7-plugin (respectively) aren't working?
[23:13] <rocky> i'm using Ubuntu 12.04, please provide me a link so that i can install mac theme in here
[23:13] <XSevenX> no h00k, that is what I was already using and why I attempted an update
[23:13] <h00k> XSevenX: okay, so 6 or 7.
[23:13] <k1l> sudo gdisk -l /dev/sda
[23:14] <XSevenX> the game is running so slow, that in attempting to connect to the server (to begin loading the game environment), that it is timing out
[23:14] <XSevenX> I'm going to go attempt to load the game on my Windows PC and I'll tell you if it's a server issue
[23:14] <bean__> that sounds like an issue with your connection, not with java.
[23:14] <h00k> I didn't know there was an OpenJRE8 yet
[23:14] <XSevenX> my connection is currently running at 35.7MB/s via speedtest.net bean_
[23:15]  * bean__ was not aware that kids even still played runescape
[23:17] <XSevenX> well h00k it may be a problem with their servers
[23:17] <XSevenX> my other PC is currently hung up on the same screen that this one is
[23:17] <XSevenX> and cannot connect to the server
[23:18] <k1l> XSevenX: so please consider that when you come and rant here over ubuntu the next time you want support :/
[23:18] <RocketLauncher> How do I change the color of the little dock Unity has?
[23:18] <bean__> XSevenX: then maybe you should apologize for your rage
[23:18] <k1l> RocketLauncher: it changes the color to your wallpaper
[23:18] <RocketLauncher> oh
[23:18] <RocketLauncher> wow i'm stupid
[23:19] <RocketLauncher> k1l, is there any way to change the color of it and make it less transparent
[23:19] <RocketLauncher> or do i have to use Unity 2D for that
[23:19] <_0x783czar> RocketLauncher: I know that feel bro.
[23:19] <yown> k1l: It gave me a single number for the partition, do I add that to the end of dev/sda for the partition address?
[23:19] <k1l> RocketLauncher: there are some custom settings tools for fiddeling with unity. dpends on what ubuntu you use
[23:20] <RocketLauncher> _0x783czar, its an abstract kind of feel :-(
[23:20] <RocketLauncher> k1l, alright thanks, i'll see if MyUnity still works and whatevers out there
[23:21] <rocky> i'm using Ubuntu 12.04, please provide me a link so that i can install mac theme in here
[23:22] <bean__> rocky: that's not how this works :) you'd likely have to find or piece together your own theme
[23:23] <uskerine> hi, i am trying to recover data from an ubuntu usb bootable pendrive that did not worked anymore
[23:23] <uskerine> could anyone help me to understand how should i mount it?
[23:24] <uskerine> I managed to mount it (from /dev/sdb1) and then i mounted filesystem.squashfs from /casper
[23:24] <uskerine> but i can't find anything under /home
[23:24] <uskerine> could anyone please help me?
[23:25] <uskerine> it seems that there is also a casper-rw file
[23:25] <uskerine> but i don't know how to mount it
[23:25] <nightfly> ck-list-sessions was what I was looking for
[23:26] <Changa> can one switch from windows 7 to ubuntu without losing any functionality?
[23:26] <smcguinness> is it possible to add a user to a service that does not prompt for a password to restart/start/stop?
[23:28] <yown> k1l: It gave me a single number for the partition, do I add that to the end of dev/sda for the partition address?
[23:28] <YokoBR> guys, plz, my laptop is at 74°C, fans almost stopped and it's burning... how can i control the fan??
[23:29] <threex5> I was wondering whether someone could help me fix screen tearing on youtube/flash videos. VLC is ok but flash not so much.
[23:29] <threex5> i'm running 12.04 32 bit with metacity/no effects
[23:30] <rocky> i'm using Ubuntu 12.04, please provide me a link so that i can install mac theme in here
[23:30] <YokoBR> please, is there any way to control the fan?? My laptop is at 74°
[23:30] <OerHeks> !themes
[23:31] <rocky> i'm using Ubuntu 12.04, please provide me a link so that i can install mac theme in here
[23:31] <yown> k1l: It gave me a single number for the partition, do I add that to the end of dev/sda for the partition address?
[23:34] <yown> Can anyone please help me determine partition address for using dd etc?
[23:37] <yown> hello?
[23:37] <rocky> i'm using Ubuntu 12.04, please provide me a link so that i can install mac theme in here
[23:37] <leodavin843> I've had a large problem in Ubuntu and can hardly run it. I am trying to find a solution, I'm soory, but  is this the proper place to ask?
[23:37] <leodavin843> (12.10)
[23:38] <thiebaude> rocky, goto noobslab.com
[23:38] <WillisIVXX> anyone here have any experience with an acer aspire 5315-2153?
[23:38] <WillisIVXX> and have a few minutes?
[23:39] <thiebaude> willia, im using the acer aspire5552
[23:39] <thiebaude> willis
[23:39] <WillisIVXX> i havin trouble gettin to to boot
[23:40] <WillisIVXX> it was given to me
[23:40] <WillisIVXX> thiebaude; can i pm?
[23:40] <thiebaude> yes
[23:41] <kepin_kepan> anyone can help me to install backtrack utilities in ubuntu??
[23:42] <leodavin843> I'm having severe problems with Ubuntu crashing, can someone help? I've described the problem here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/258584/crashing-after-login-with-graphic-issues                            To no avail
[23:42] <yown> Can anyone please help me determine partition address for using dd etc?
[23:42] <eN_Joy> i have just installed a new cron jobs @reboot, do i need to reboot to make that work?
[23:43] <ikonia> eN_Joy: what do you think @reboot does
[23:43] <funny> hi
[23:44] <funny> me
[23:44] <funny> e
[23:44] <funny> i
[23:44] <eN_Joy> ikonia: so there's no such thing as a dry run?
[23:44] <funny> u
[23:44] <FloodBot1> funny: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:44] <ikonia> eN_Joy: no, you've set it to trigger at reboot....you need to reboot to trigger it
[23:45] <eN_Joy> ikonia: i see
[23:45] <eN_Joy> it's the inadyn thingy, guess i'll just start a daemon for this session
[23:46] <eN_Joy> i'm working remotely, and reboot is always something i'd do last
[23:47] <yown> Can anyone please help me determine partition address for using dd etc?
[23:48] <jamesgcd> yown it depends on what partition youre looking for, by default you could just look at all the files in the /dev folder, as any partitions will be included there with names like "sda1" and "sda2" and so on
[23:48] <ikonia> yown: why don't you tell us what you're trying to do
[23:50] <yown> ikonia: For using DD etc, for writing over that partition for complete eraser
[23:50] <ikonia> yown: why don't you just put a new file system on it, or delete the partition
[23:51] <ikonia> yown: you'll need to work out the start/end block bounderies, or change working of mb/kb sizings
[23:51] <Tm0> Hey all! I just installed Ubuntu on my laptop and I'm having problems connecting to my school's wifi. The setup docs (which I can't link too...) refuse to help me.
[23:52] <jamesgcd> hey Tm0 - whats the exact problem you're having? Is ubuntu failing to show any wifi hotspots, does it refuse to connect, does it connect or not work, any information at all would be useful ^_^
[23:52] <yown> ikonia: I want to do a write over for data security. And why would I need to work out start/end block boundries? The boundries would be the partition perameters.
[23:52] <ikonia> yown: yes....so if you don't set the start/end you'll end up doing the whole disk
[23:52] <yown> jamesgcd: where is this dev folder?
[23:53] <ikonia> yown: realistically.....how important is this data
[23:53] <yown> ikonia: Why can't I just have it do the whole partition?
[23:53] <ikonia> yown: there are also tools to do this
[23:53] <jamesgcd> yown its /dev - if you browse the root of the hard drive its just a folder named dev inside it
[23:53] <Tm0> jamesgcd Ubuntu refuses to connect when I put my credentials in. It just doesn't connect. Usually on mac you just put in your creddentials and it works.
[23:53] <ikonia> yown: because dd knows nothing about partitions, so you have to set a start/stop point for dd
[23:53] <jamesgcd> Tm0 is it a problem with only that specific network or does it occur everywhere?
[23:54] <ikonia> yown: you can use the device file for the partiton you want, or you'll need to use the disk device file and set parameters
[23:54] <yown> jamesgcd: OK found a devs, but I don't see anything like you are describing?
[23:54] <Tm0> jamesgcd Just on this network. It works on the public one but I can't wget or apt-get install things on it.
[23:55] <ikonia> yown: how many disks do you have in your system ?
[23:55] <yown> ikonia: What would happen if I just set dd to the path of the partition?
[23:55] <yown> ikonia: partitions, or drives?
[23:55] <jamesgcd> Tm0 if Ubuntu shows the connection successful message, its probably some form of proxy configuration you need to enter which ubuntu isnt detecting properly. Is it showing you that notification when it first establishes the connection?
[23:55] <ikonia> yown: nothing, it would work on that partition, assuming it's nothing like an extended partition
[23:55] <ikonia> yown: drives
[23:56] <rocky> i'm using Ubuntu 12.04, please provide me a link so that i can install mac theme in here
[23:56] <yown> ikonia: One HDD, 1 USB flash, 1 DVD
[23:56] <ikonia> yown: do you want to blank a partition on the hard disk or usb ?
[23:56] <ikonia> yown: and again - realistically how secure/important is this data
[23:56] <yown> ikonia: It seems like you are contradicting yourself, I thought you said it ignored partition parameters and I needed to manually define them
[23:56] <jamesgcd> yown : to be honest, its probably easiest to just copy and paste a hundred or so files to the partition and then delete the partition afterwards
[23:56] <yown> ikonia:  HDD
[23:57] <ikonia> yown: no, I'm not contradicting myself, if you read what I said carefully
[23:57] <jamesgcd> yown: obviously by a hundred I mean enough to fill the whole partition up completely :p
[23:57] <yown> jamesgcd: Can data survive between data space?
[23:57] <ikonia> between data space ?
[23:57] <Tm0> jamesgcd It doesn't even connect. Basically I enter my stuff, and it refuses it. Even though all the settings match my phone.
[23:58] <yown> I mean data files wouldn't be completely compact all the time, they need space, could old data exist to recover between that space
[23:59] <ikonia> yown: sorry, you're not making sense
[23:59] <ikonia> jamesgcd: goldcd ?
[23:59] <yown> ikonia: So I can just point dd to the partition address and it will overwrite that section of the HDD? So what is wrong with that then?
[23:59] <jamesgcd> ikonia sorry, goldcd :p?
[23:59] <ikonia> jamesgcd: never mind, wondered if you where someone else
[23:59] <ikonia> yown: nothing....but you seem lost in what you are doing
[23:59] <jamesgcd> and Tm0 I'm unsure on that problem tbh, I'll do some googling to see if I can find any info to help you