[04:32] Is it a bad idea to go for some of the ppa's from kxstudio in any way? Could it damage my system somehow? [04:32] The broken/unstable packages asied [04:33] aside* [04:50] I have not had any problems with it. you are limited to LTS releases though. [05:07] len-dt: tend to stick to them anyway, thanks :) [07:27] Hi [07:28] ho to add a command linge to the application list ? [07:29] the application list with that we can launch file [07:29] ... [15:25] I installed the "ubuntustudio-desktop" from Mint14_Xfce. All the 'extra' software that ubuntustudio seems to be listed in the main menu under 'other' but the links to the software are not working. I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling and seem to be going round in circles. Thanks for any help [15:26] seems the bulk of my post disappeared [15:28] I added ubuntustudio-desktop to Mint 14 Xfce but dont have access to the audio software [15:28] Maybe I should just use the ubuntustudio install disk [15:31] haha, yeah swol, that's just a de [15:31] 378 mb of de.... [15:32] damn [15:32] ubuntu studio os is bigger thuogh [15:32] I have it installed, on my desktop Ubuntustudio, so I have the disk [15:33] have you used it much? [15:33] I am starting to, but have recorded nothing. I am using it as my os...for a few months [15:34] you want it mainly for music creation? [15:34] eventually yes [15:34] install lmms too then [15:34] doesn't come with , for some reason [15:35] I really want to record live instruments [15:35] it's the easie [15:35] woops [15:35] Bass Guitar and harmonica and vocals [15:36] audacity and ardour can serve most of those needs. have you figured out how to use jack yet? [15:36] with some hydrogen drums I guess [15:36] yeah [15:36] cool [15:36] you mean the adapter ? [15:36] yes [15:36] No ..I got to buy a 1/4" to mini adapter [15:37] oh, wait, no. there's a program called jack [15:38] i mean, yeah, you'll need the adapter too, i meant, it's like a switchboard for your programs [15:38] No..I will have to plug in before I can use any of the software,hehe, but I am aware of Jack [15:39] k [15:39] once you figure it out, it's just a matter of learning the programs. until jack is configured though, most won't make a sound [15:40] I really just want to get off the ground with a simpl recording of me singing with my guitar [15:40] Will Ardour or Audacity handle that ? [15:40] yes [15:40] without Jack [15:41] audacity doesn't need jack but ardour does [15:41] So I set Jack up first then ? [15:41] yes [15:41] switch from alsa to pulse ? [15:41] in some applications [15:42] I read about that [15:42] ycertain ones use one or the other, some use either [15:42] Will audacity record a simple mis=crophone setup ? [15:43] yes [15:43] without need of anything else [15:43] Then a bass guitar plkugged directly ? [15:43] yeah [15:43] anything [15:43] as a second track [15:44] for 2nd tracks it gets a little trickier, as you don't want bleedover [15:44] so it's best to use headphones for monito [15:44] r [15:44] bass plugged directly ...no amp [15:45] i doubt you should use boosted output in your speaker's input [15:45] er you computer [15:46] I mean plug from the bass guitar to the computer input....unamplified [15:46] yes [15:46] as a second track [15:46] don't amplify the signal going into the computer's mic jack [15:46] right [15:46] yes, you can do that [15:46] cool [15:46] make sure to disable the external mic in audacity [15:47] er, i mean, is this a laptop? [15:47] Not yet but thats where I was going to end up after practice on the deskyop [15:47] top [15:48] k. , because laptops generally have 2 mic ports. the integrated and the jack itself. you'll want to make sure the integrated is off to avoid air hiss [15:48] nly one mic port on nthis laptop [15:49] and hum from the cpu fan, etc [15:49] ahhh yes [15:49] no integrated mic? [15:49] up by the camera? [15:49] no camera...this here is vintage [15:49] haha [15:50] 2.6 ghz P4 with 2 Gb ram [15:50] are you american, by chance? [15:50] yes...displaced Canadian [15:50] haha. i know some of each [15:50] living in America [15:50] and an egyptian in Ca [15:51] Egypt to Canada... [15:51] yep [15:51] more snow, less sand [15:51] indubitably so [15:52] where are you then...Egypt ? [15:54] So anyway It sounds like audacity will handle simple multi track recording from an external microphone [15:55] Thanks for the tips shai_halud, to work now [15:55] hey [15:55] here is a track i made yesterday with lmms, btw http://filebin.net/pkz3d0blco [15:56] yw [15:56] zipfile huh? [15:57] you can dl it other ways [15:57] its downloading as zip...no problem [15:58] lmms is all electronic manufactured sounds correct ? [15:58] it's just a 24 second piece of a song. i have a lot of work to do on it [15:58] yes [15:58] this will be a good sample for you [15:58] it's quite nice [15:58] no actual instuments [15:58] nope [15:58] sounds like them though [15:58] it's a wonderful program [15:59] I will listten with a discerning ear [15:59] using electronic methods of creation is a good way to expand what you do on guitar [15:59] i have played for 20 years now [16:00] played what for 20 years ? [16:00] guitar [16:00] oh ok [16:00] me too...except 35 years [16:00] dayum [16:00] that's my age [16:00] (i lie. 36) [16:00] That makwes me at least 36 years old [16:00] hehe [16:01] 50 plus...ahem [16:01] so you know about my favorites then [16:01] you mean eric and jimmy and jeff ? [16:01] King Crimson, Jethro Tull, Rush, etc [16:01] ok... [16:01] those guys are great too [16:02] I like the tull guy,,,squire ? [16:02] Martin Barre, i think [16:02] barre yah [16:03] I'm not used to seeing anyone over 30 on irc. this is a treat [16:04] so you play bass, or both? [16:04] No kidding.....Have to go to the Lawn Bowling Channek I guess [16:04] haha [16:04] bass guitar some banjo and harmonica [16:04] * shai_halud wonders if guys on wall street/ doctors, and lawyers use irc [16:05] They have "special" secret channels...hehe [16:05] right, and politicians [16:05] so, , about your discerning ear [16:06] politicians no.....too self obsessed to learn absolutely anything new [16:06] try the file yet? [16:06] lemme check [16:07] and i REALLY have never met anyone your age who uses linux [16:07] impressive [16:09] this is just a meagre sampling of what lmms can do. I only started using it yesterday [16:09] Theres lots of older users in the Mint and PCLinux crowd [16:09] the easy to use [16:10] i have mint now and unsed to have pclinux os [16:10] it's not too bad once you go over a few tricky things [16:10] there are some great online guides [16:10] i got this much done in a day, so, go figure [16:10] i'm no genius [16:11] I have used mint since 07 [16:11] it's a great os. what DE do you use? [16:11] I switched to Xfce when the gnome 3 hit the stands [16:11] swol: there are a bunch of meta packages for Ubuntu Studio. You don't need the desktop. Try ubuntustudio-audio [16:11] swol: Make sure to add yourself to audio group, in order to get realtime privilege [16:11] i have the whole thing installed already [16:12] ok thanks zequence [16:12] swol: And if you want low latency, install linux-lowlatency (or, does Mint roll their own kernels?) [16:12] oh damn. i thought that was still shol talking [16:12] they may but I am not familiar with low latency from mint [16:12] swol: To see all the meta packages, in a terminal, do: apt-cache search ubuntustudio [16:13] i don't think mints rolls kernels [16:13] me neither [16:13] good thing about ubuntu [16:13] if Mint has linux-lowlatency, then they don't [16:13] uh, no they don't [16:13] But I think the liqorish kernel or something [16:14] I will just go and install the full ubuntu studio [16:15] might be better/easier that way [16:15] I also boot bto Mint 13 Matre here [16:15] Mate [16:15] i use mate now too [16:15] Mate is gnome 2 ish [16:15] went from cinnamon to kde to mate [16:16] i still have them all, of course, and switch as the mood strikes me [16:16] ok...I cant do Kde and cinnamon uses extra cpu that I dont want to give away [16:17] new kde with plasma workspace is a beast for resource hogging, but it's also beautiful [16:17] I am using the mint 14 lxde on a usb flash [16:17] its a polish community edition [16:17] polish? as in ploand? [16:17] er you know [16:17] yes [16:17] hm [16:18] but option is English [16:18] how many pollacks does it take.... (sorry, i couldn't resist) [16:18] I live in california, I cant make those jokes [16:18] HA [16:18] LA? [16:18] people would talk [16:19] yes [16:19] What part? [16:19] I used to live In Park La Brea [16:19] north,,,near Pasadena [16:19] near Lacma? [16:19] LACMA [16:20] yes, on wilshire? [16:20] I can picture it now [16:21] here http://tinyurl.com/myoldapt [16:21] i lived at the top pf that tower [16:22] the big x xhaped ones [16:22] Nice view of the clouds huh? [16:22] you can see all of LA from there [16:22] and the hollywood sign [16:23] 'bout 2 miles from the strip [16:23] Great [16:23] indiana boy- i was a fish out of water, but i loved every minute [16:24] Its all fun for a while,,,hehe [16:24] yeah. you said it [16:24] Are you in some strange land now ? [16:24] back in indiana [16:25] that could qualify huh? [16:25] it has it's strangeness, but it's mostly mundane [16:25] not....boring? [16:25] that too [16:25] no music here [16:26] hmm...it's every=where...no live music...yah [16:26] i got spoiled in Nashville Tennessee [16:26] Life kicks in and live music anywhere is a treat ! If you can find time ! [16:27] you wouldn't belIEVE the calibre of music the up and comers are making there these days [16:27] To overly produced for me [16:27] oh no [16:27] for example ? [16:27] these people are pulling themselves up by the bootstraps man [16:27] heypenny [16:28] I will check heypenny out.... [16:28] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1oc9tPrSoQ [16:28] ther you go [16:28] hope you're a beatles fan [16:29] I gotta run pal...to work....nice chatting...will see you again...and I will listen to yer tune-ette [16:29] I am working on Girl [16:29] hehe [16:29] good luck [16:29] likewise [16:29] See you hear often ? [16:29] oh yeah [16:30] #lmms #opensourcemusicians [16:30] those too [16:30] sounds good.... [16:30] good places for assitance [16:31] yes...I learn all ..or most of my solutions equally google and irc [16:31] mhmm [16:32] the web is a wonderful place if you know how and where to look [16:32] I always clainm to have done a thorough googling anyway before I ask in irc...hehe [16:32] that can easily be refuted [16:32] I know but its a good start [16:33] Its not a total; lie [16:33] you don't want to get one of those "let me google that for you" links [16:33] I usually google first [16:33] I have [16:33] i bet [16:33] i did.... once [16:34] Not to menytion just straight attack for not finding my own answers [16:34] some geeks are proprietary with their knowledge. most you find on irc are pretty easy going, thankfully [16:35] I agree...most [16:35] you have 2 types of irc assholes. the elitist geeks and the trolls [16:36] 2 is not broad enough [16:36] they comprise a very small percentage of actual irc users [16:36] then there's the variants of each [16:37] Very true. But there is nothing worse than an empowered elitist [16:37] except maybe an incessant troll [16:37] who PM's [16:37] oh god [16:37] hehe..thats the one [16:38] dispicable [16:38] Listen I must leave....Good ta meet ya....later k? [16:38] likewise, yup [16:38] bye === _dancer is now known as MOSMarauder [18:57] hello, i'm trying to put ubuntustudio on this machine which already has winXP and i'm trying not to f*ck up anything.. i reduced the size of the last partition and now i got a "free" chunk of about 58GB http://i.imgur.com/yxt8aZZ.png [19:05] Haohmaru: Looks good to me [19:06] Haohmaru: What you need to be aware of is that when you install Ubuntu Studio (and I guess you know this already), the Windows bootloader will be replaces with GRUB [19:06] which is no problem, since GRUB can see and boot windows [19:07] Haohmaru: You'll need two partitions. One SWAP partition which should be roughly 2x your RAM size [19:07] And the other a EXT4 for the root "/" [19:40] Hi, I need some help installing drivers for an Asus Xonat DX PCIE card [19:40] that's Xonar [19:41] andy: There are no special drivers for PCI cards on Linux [19:41] andy: Are you saying it doesn't work? [19:42] It works but the volume is very low [19:42] If I turn it up it distorts [19:42] andy: Here's a little guide I wrote about audio on Ubutnu Studio https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/ProAudioIntro/1204 [19:43] Ok thanks - I have disabled Pulseaudio [19:44] andy: http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Vendor-Asus [19:44] andy: If you look in details, that stuff is not relevant to you [19:44] ..since the driver is already installed [19:44] I was just on this site, but I couldn't figure where to do the download [19:45] andy: There's nothing to download [19:45] unzip what? [19:45] The driver is a part of the core alsa packages, where all the drivers are included [19:45] I have these via package mgr [19:46] andy: The drivers are not split into different packages. You already have the driver. [19:46] If there's a problem with the driver, it's a bug, and should be reported. But, I'm more leaning on leveling issues [19:46] Ok . .. . [19:47] andy: What kind of mixer are you using to handle the audio levels for the card? [19:47] I just rebooted so I think I should try alsamixer [19:48] There's alsamixergui, if you want a graphical version [19:54] Still distorting badly [20:04] zequence, thanks, i resized it so that i got ~4.7GB "swap" chunk after the ext4 [20:04] does the swap chunk need to be formatted, cuz it didn't automatically mark itself for format [20:06] and can i abort the installation after these new partitions get created/formatted, cuz i read that i need to boot my winXP before proceeding with linux installation, so that it can "detect" that my E:\ has been "resized" .. [20:47] Haohmaru: Don't know why you would need to boot XP before installation is complete. Just sounds like XP will find the new size at next boot [20:47] i read it somewhere [20:47] Has nothing to do with the boot loader anyway [20:48] Or, does it? [20:48] I guess there's a chance that there are som win tools in the boot sector [20:48] You can safely abort installation. The partitions will be there the next time again [20:49] too late now, i pressed next and now it's kind of installed [20:49] Haohmaru: It's not too late until GRUB is installed [20:49] That happens last [20:49] when is GRUB installed exactly? [20:50] It's the very last step of the process [20:50] right now it finished showing me pretty pictures about what apps it hast [20:50] and wants me to reboot [20:50] * has [20:50] Then, yes, too late [20:50] :) good luck [20:51] oookay, thanks [20:51] Haohmaru: If for some reason you want to reinstall XP again, just do that. But, then GRUB will be removed. [20:51] ahum [20:52] GRUB can be added separately, but you might find it easier to just reinstall Ubuntu Studio again, after a win XP install [20:59] so after the reboot, there was a bootloader ;] [21:03] I'm assuming you mean there was now the GRUB boot loader, and no Windows boot loader [21:03] yes [21:04] Haohmaru: So, booting into XP was fine? [21:04] This guy is funny https://plus.google.com/u/0/102544462835105704231/posts [21:04] i didn't boot XP yet (but i saw it in the bootloader list) [21:05] imma reboot again now and see if my XP is broken or not [21:13] winXP detected that something's wrong with drive E: so it ran CHKDSK automatically, then it ran fine [21:13] kewl [21:16] just one question: how do i move the taskbar thing which is on the top, to the bottom of the screen? [21:19] Haohmaru: Right click on the panel. I don't use XFCE much, so I don't know this on top of my head, but all the controls are there [21:19] Just read the menu that pops uå [21:19] up* [21:21] ah, figured it [21:21] \o/ === arges_ is now known as arges [22:51] in the settings, color calibration doesn't do anything :/ [23:37] hi there, nice to meet you ubuntustudio, im from argentina, and i have fresh install and configured studio :P [23:46] hectorlopez: Hope you have fun with it :) [23:47] thanks i need install lives and openframeworks lives to vjing and openframeworks to mapping [23:48] i will do,