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dholbachgood morning07:22
na3nou3hi10:06
MANJINDERreally12:06
rene_Hola15:49
kingwillchanserv /msg identify Gl3nFord@10115:51
Tassadaryou probably wanna change that now15:52
kingwillyeah i know15:52
zqrtjeddahQ : is there any way toI copy the contents of orders and everything on another program works on Windows or Mac ?15:56
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ledzapkinghii16:00
tynamichello16:05
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zqrtjeddahmt net too slow16:25
zqrtjeddahbrb16:25
KatapoffGreetings dudes :)16:25
KatapoffIs there will be a live hangout now?16:27
iorwethIn 3 min16:27
KatapoffThanks iorweth16:28
Katapoffgreetings from Egypt16:28
tampsterdamzzzzz16:28
dholbachyou might have to update http://ubuntuonair.com16:29
dholbachwe'll be live in just a bit16:29
Katapoffhow can i switch to live hangout?16:31
dholbachjust reload the page16:31
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Seosuo/16:38
dholbachhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Security/Features16:38
KatapoffGreetings from Egypt :)16:38
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FredyR4zorhi16:40
Con_Hello!16:40
SeosuSalutations from Éire!16:41
kaiserfarrellHello! from Malaysia16:41
bearbinHello!16:41
rockrockhello from minnesota16:42
dholbachhello everyone!16:42
dholbachif you want to ask questions, please do!16:42
hellohellost. paul?16:43
dholbachbut please prefix them with QUESTION:16:43
rockrocku of m16:43
Bluebeamhi16:43
hellohelloWIE SIEHT EIN NORMALER ARBEITSTAG AUS VON DEN JUNGS? ;)16:44
Ba7a7chyThis is Live now right ?16:45
iorwethYeah16:45
Bluebeamyup16:45
Ba7a7chyQUESTION: When is the kernel 3.4-8 local privilige exploit bug will be patched in Ubuntu ?16:46
BluebeamWould love to see ubuntu on WP8.16:47
Ba7a7chyQUESTION: What about the secure boot nounsense ?16:48
BluebeamNo ones 100% secure in reality.16:49
Ba7a7chyI want to an option to encrypt all my info with 16k bit :)16:50
JarnoKaiIs ubuntu for mobile still only available for Nexus 4,7,10?16:50
rockrocki think so havent seen it on anything else16:51
kaiserfarrellQUESTION:I'm running ubuntu 12.10 on Dell 4520, however battery drain on ubuntu so fast then windows... Why this happen?16:51
OpenTangentQUESTION: Does Ubuntu have security advantages over iOS or Android?16:51
iorwethI've seen ported to other devices16:51
Ba7a7chy:)16:54
Ba7a7chyQUESTION: Is the secure boot going to be imported to the kernel or ?16:55
Ba7a7chyQUESTION: Is Ubuntu\Linux in general going to drop flash soon becuse adobe stoped linux support long ago...16:58
rockrockQUESTION will ubuntu phone have additional security16:58
Ba7a7chyOpensource rocks :)16:58
stopthisyes, its opensource... WIN16:58
dholbachkaiserfarrell, your question is not really security related - did you try to search on askubuntu.com?16:59
stopthisAnyone else noticed "Feb 26rd, 16:30 UTC"17:00
dholbachhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/AppDevUploadProcess17:01
celsoa small question: curently, i think ubuntu use iptables for firewall. booting ubuntu with a wired internet wouldn't load the internet connection before the iptables? opening a door to hacking my system? Correct-me if i am wrong please.17:02
Ba7a7chyQUESTION: Will the Ubuntu Phone is going to have ufw ?17:03
Seosudholbach: What is your biggest security pet hate about windoze?17:03
NJ_are softwaree like Insync for mapping Google drive / dropbox secure ? can we run them in backend all the time17:03
Ba7a7chybut but HTML5 !17:04
Ba7a7chy:(17:04
Ba7a7chymy question awnswred17:05
celsook! thanks!17:05
Ba7a7chyQUESTION: is Ubuntu Phone is going to use some form of local file encryption ?17:06
Ba7a7chynice !17:08
OpenTangentQUESTION: Android's sandboxing gives the user only two options; install the app or don't install the app. Are there plans to give the user the ability to deny individual permissions like just networking?17:08
Ba7a7chy+1 OpenTangent17:08
matc21I agree17:10
celsotrue! Very easy!17:10
kaiserfarrellQUESTION: how about unauthorized remote administrator tool on ubuntu/ ubuntu phone ? Is posibble ?17:10
rockrockyes17:11
Ba7a7chyQUESTION: Will the Ubuntu phone is going to allow us to "root" the device ?17:11
SeosuQUESTION: Will the Ubuntu phone is going to allow us to "root" the device ? Seconded17:12
majster-plQUESTION: Is ubuntu Touch using all 4cores of CPU when running on Nexus 4 ?17:13
Ba7a7chyQUESTION: Is Ubutnu going to have better support for AD policys ?17:13
Ba7a7chyyes17:14
AgaQUESTION: While the centralized updating via the Ubuntu Software Center is really nice and easy and keeps all programs updated up to some level, a rolling release type of updating might provide better protection as updates are released faster. What is your opinion on moving to a rolling release?17:14
Lordmerfolkthere a list of phones that can use ubuntu phone17:14
stopthisHe's meaning for someone who does not own/have access to the computer/phone to be able to remotely administrate the computer/phone17:14
aoeusnthQUESTION: do you see an increase in the amount of malware being written targeting gnu linux? GNU linux has a reputation as a safe OS to use, how much of this reputation do you attribute to it actually being safer then other operating systems, and  how much to it actually being targeted less.17:15
stopthisI'd like to hear the response to aoeusnth's question17:16
dholbachhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/GettingInvolved17:17
celsoanother question: sometimes i download packages from launchpad to install on ubuntu instead of  install a ppa. downloading packages or using ppa's from launchpad compromises my pc? does launchpad check the packages for malicious software?17:18
Ba7a7chyHooooooo17:18
AgaThx for asking and answering my question!17:19
AgaThe Ubuntu wiki should remove the capitalized words in the URLs o.017:19
Agagreat question aoeusnth17:22
Ba7a7chynot me :)17:22
matc21another question: how long takes the "testing process" compared to the "fixing process" in regards of security fixes17:23
aoeusnththnx :-)17:23
celsotrue17:24
celsowas a very good choice17:24
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AgaUpdating/upgrading matters: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzE7S3na3J017:27
stopthispeople in irc: does ubuntu still have unity?17:28
stopthisi hate unity17:28
thiebaudeyes17:28
thiebaudestopthis,17:29
rockrocki like unity17:29
Ba7a7chybla bla bla I hate unity go away troll17:29
stopthisDoes anyone actually like it?17:29
AgaI do17:29
thiebaudei like it, but don't use it :)17:29
stopthishow can you like it? with a mouse its horrific.17:29
dholbachI do!!!17:29
Ba7a7chyI do17:29
AgaThat is why I like it, you can do so much more with keyboard :)17:29
celsoi do too17:29
stopthiscompared to gnome?17:30
thiebaudei love the direction canonical is going, imho17:30
Guest80229Some of old USNs dosn't contain versions of packages, that is not vulnerable. Is it a bug or what?17:30
thiebaudeworkspaces on unity is amazing17:30
stopthisWell we can all agree its better than KDE17:30
mdeslaurGuest80229: we didn't track version back then, sorry17:30
thiebaudeKDE, is much better than before17:30
stopthisI guess I'm too used to flux, but unity is super weird17:31
Guest80229<mdeslaur> does this mean, that all versions of that packages are vulnerable?17:31
thiebaudeThanks guys17:31
rockrockty17:31
celsothanks for making ubuntu better! thanks guys!17:31
AgaThanks all!17:32
thiebaudebye17:32
iorwethThanks!17:32
dholbachthanks a bunch!17:32
thiebaudethanks Aga17:32
matc21thanks, enjoyed it17:32
Ba7a7chyThnks guys :)17:32
aoeusnththanks for your time17:32
celsobye17:32
mdeslaurGuest80229: no, it just means we didn't write down package versions when we used to write USN texts, so the info isn't available in the database17:32
thiebaudesee you next time17:32
mdeslaurGuest80229: it should only be for ancient ubuntu releases that are end-of-life anyway17:32
mdeslaurbye everyone, thanks!17:32
thiebaudeyw mdeslaur17:32
thiebaudeexit17:33
thiebaudeopps wrong chat client,lol17:33
Guest80229mdeslaur, we seen some usn, that contained versions for some time. And now there is no version of that packages available.17:35
mdeslaurGuest80229: can you give me a specific example?17:35
Guest80229Yes. But not now. Can I write you a letter?17:36
mdeslaurGuest80229: sure, send it to security@ubuntu.com17:37
Guest80229<mdeslaur> I think that company where I am working already send this question to this email. But without answer. Is it possible to send information to you personally?17:40
mdeslaurGuest80229: I get that email17:40
Guest80229<mdeslaur> Ok )17:40
Guest80229<mdeslaur> So, I will find more examples, where information in USN seems to be changed, and send it to this email.17:43
Mark__Hi18:08
JoseeAntonioRjono: sure, I'll try my connection to not drop, my ISP is having a hard time19:47
JoseeAntonioRif it keeps dropping, you think you may be able to do it by yourself?19:47
jonoJoseeAntonioR, I can always start it if you like19:47
JoseeAntonioRyep, we can do that, and I can set the rest up19:48
JoseeAntonioRjono: ok, my ISP says they're going to review the line like 4 hours before, so if there's any problems I'll just let you know20:05
jonothanks JoseeAntonioR20:33
kami84grQUESTION: Application permissions is a huge security issue with Android. What will be Ubuntu-mobile's approach in that area?22:08

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