[01:24] <philipballew> nhaines, thanks again for donating the phone for the weekend.
[16:40] <Torikun> upvote http://redd.it/199kmq !
[16:40] <darthrobot> [R: www.reddit.com] Title: [99 problems in IT : technology]
[18:20] <pleia2> confirmed that UDS won't be in Oakland, they're going all virtual
[18:20] <pleia2> http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2013/02/26/ubuntu-developer-summits-now-online-and-every-three-months/
[18:20] <darthrobot> Title: [Ubuntu Developer Summits Now Online and Every Three Months]
[18:20] <akk> Seriously? Darn!
[18:22] <akk> And using google hangouts instead of opensource technology, even weirder. Don't hangouts have a limit on how many people can participate?
[18:24] <pleia2> yeah, 10 who can actually talk in the video stream, others will have to use the built in chat thing
[18:25] <akk> Ah, so no limit on how many can watch/listen?
[18:26] <tedski> canonical has been using hangouts for other stuff, right?
[18:26] <tedski> i.e. that's how the news of rolling releases was broken, no?
[18:26] <akk> Does it still need the invasive binary google plug-in even if you're not speaking? Do you still need a webcam?
[18:27] <pleia2> I don't think so
[18:27] <pleia2> tedski: yeah, they've been using hangouts a lot
[18:29] <akk> I've never actually managed to connect to a hangout.
[18:30] <akk> A friend invited me to several she created to talk about upcoming conference talks, and google never sent me the invite.
[18:30] <akk> (It didn't save it in gmail's spam folder or any other folders either.)
[18:31] <pleia2> that happens sometimes, the participants can then just give a link
[18:31] <akk> She didn't seem to know how to do that -- was under the impression it HAD to be an invite. I'll tell her next time.
[18:32] <akk> I tried to connect to their sample/test hangout and it made my webcam make an earsplitting squeal.
[18:33] <akk> (webcam with speakers, maybe it doesn't work with that combo)
[20:26] <bkerensa> pleia2: I wonder how long till CD's are replaced with pointing people to ISO's.... I guess people knew this was happening about a week ago
[20:26] <bkerensa> Did the CC get advanced notice?
[20:26] <pleia2> bkerensa: no
[20:26] <bkerensa> thats not good
[20:26] <pleia2> there were some rumors floating around scale11x though
[20:26] <bkerensa> yeah
[20:26] <bkerensa> so apparently Josee knew
[20:27] <pleia2> he pretty much leads up the hangout coordination, so I'm nor surprised
[20:28] <pleia2> s/nor/not
[20:28] <bkerensa> Also someone in our loco who works at Canonical said the cut for copenhagen of one day was to save money
[20:28] <bkerensa> so maybe the reality is its about costs and not about opening things up to everyone
[20:28] <pleia2> the party line was that feedback said 5 days was too long and people got tired so friday was useless
[20:29] <pleia2> it is terribly expensive, we'll just have to work to replace face time we got at UDS with meetups at other conferences, or more ubucons
[20:30] <bkerensa> yeah
[20:30] <pleia2> the community can do an ubucon for significantly less money than a UDS
[20:30] <pleia2> I think the one at scale last week was $0 :)
[20:31] <bkerensa> yeah but what percentage of the Ubuntu community was able to make that on their own dime?
[20:31] <pleia2> well, the idea is to have them throughout the world
[20:31] <pleia2> and perhaps they'll even gain sponsors and stuff
[20:32] <bkerensa> huh
[20:32] <bkerensa> that would be nice
[20:34] <bkerensa> As sad as it may sound maybe this is a good opportunity to see who is contributing to contribute and who is contributing to get to UDS?
[20:35] <bkerensa> I do know that Canonical is apparently interested in putting more money at OSCON and buying a booth this year
[20:35] <pleia2> I don't really believe there are many people like that
[20:36] <pleia2> the process doesn't really skew to making that easy, and it doesn't make sense economically
[20:36] <bkerensa> pleia2: Mozilla has had that issue with their events and participation that being that we have a lot of people applying to be involved so they can get free trips and free food
[20:36] <pleia2> (I could make a lot more money if I was paid for what I volunteer to do, could pay for a europe trip many times over)
[20:36] <bkerensa> Which is why they had to form a Oversight Task Force to weed out those people
[20:36] <pleia2> yeah, I given how UDS sponsorship works I think there is a much lower chance of that
[20:37] <bkerensa> pleia2: well hopefully your new gig will be sending you to europe now and then huh? ;)
[20:37] <pleia2> you actually need to be doing some real work that someone at canonical notices, it's not just raising your hand to volunteer at a booth
[20:37] <bkerensa> pleia2: true UDS did have good oversight from the engineering managers where Mozilla had much different approach
[20:37] <pleia2> bkerensa: hah, if I speak at conferences I can go, so I certainly will be wandering to europe, plus I'll be attending the openstack summits
[20:38] <pleia2> so travel isn't really a loss for me, seeing my ubuntu friends is
[20:39] <bkerensa> pleia2: oh so I will see you in Portland for OpenStack?
[20:39] <bkerensa> :D
[20:39] <pleia2> bkerensa: yep!
[20:39] <pleia2> I should book my travel soon actually
[20:39] <pleia2> it's a week before my wedding, I am a brave soul ;)
[20:40] <bkerensa> pleia2: cool... I was invited as a openstack community member but not sure if I will be there for more than a few hours... I will try and setup a Ubuntu Hour during the evening one night though
[20:40] <pleia2> cool
[20:41] <bkerensa> pleia2: you should wrangle a Ubuntu Women dinner ;p
[20:41] <pleia2> OS women dinner!
[20:41] <pleia2> the gnome mentees will be there :)
[20:41] <bkerensa> oh even better
[20:41] <bkerensa> if you arrange one I can announce it on the Mozilla list and pass it to all the OS women hackers I know
[20:42] <pleia2> just thinking about that makes me feel tired, check back with me in 3 weeks
[20:42] <pleia2> :)
[20:42] <pleia2> <-- a bit worn out right now
[20:43] <pleia2> turns out planning a wedding and changing jobs, a lot of work!
[20:43] <bkerensa> heh
[20:43] <bkerensa> Also I'm sure the Technocrats (group who decided on Xubuntu) at FreeGeek would love to meet you
[20:44] <pleia2> cool
[22:49] <kalenjohnson> Anyone here from San Diego know when the next Ubuntu hour is?
[23:27] <raevol> kalenjohnson: you'll want to ask philipballew
[23:27] <raevol> when he's in the channel :/ or on twitter
[23:38] <kalenjohnson> raevol, yeah thanks, I know he's the main dude in the area