[01:24] nhaines, thanks again for donating the phone for the weekend. === jono is now known as Guest76484 [16:40] upvote http://redd.it/199kmq ! [16:40] [R: www.reddit.com] Title: [99 problems in IT : technology] [18:20] confirmed that UDS won't be in Oakland, they're going all virtual [18:20] http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2013/02/26/ubuntu-developer-summits-now-online-and-every-three-months/ [18:20] Title: [Ubuntu Developer Summits Now Online and Every Three Months] [18:20] Seriously? Darn! [18:22] And using google hangouts instead of opensource technology, even weirder. Don't hangouts have a limit on how many people can participate? [18:24] yeah, 10 who can actually talk in the video stream, others will have to use the built in chat thing [18:25] Ah, so no limit on how many can watch/listen? [18:26] canonical has been using hangouts for other stuff, right? [18:26] i.e. that's how the news of rolling releases was broken, no? [18:26] Does it still need the invasive binary google plug-in even if you're not speaking? Do you still need a webcam? [18:27] I don't think so [18:27] tedski: yeah, they've been using hangouts a lot [18:29] I've never actually managed to connect to a hangout. [18:30] A friend invited me to several she created to talk about upcoming conference talks, and google never sent me the invite. [18:30] (It didn't save it in gmail's spam folder or any other folders either.) [18:31] that happens sometimes, the participants can then just give a link [18:31] She didn't seem to know how to do that -- was under the impression it HAD to be an invite. I'll tell her next time. [18:32] I tried to connect to their sample/test hangout and it made my webcam make an earsplitting squeal. [18:33] (webcam with speakers, maybe it doesn't work with that combo) === Adran is now known as corndogs === corndogs is now known as Adran [20:26] pleia2: I wonder how long till CD's are replaced with pointing people to ISO's.... I guess people knew this was happening about a week ago [20:26] Did the CC get advanced notice? [20:26] bkerensa: no [20:26] thats not good [20:26] there were some rumors floating around scale11x though [20:26] yeah [20:26] so apparently Josee knew [20:27] he pretty much leads up the hangout coordination, so I'm nor surprised [20:28] s/nor/not [20:28] Also someone in our loco who works at Canonical said the cut for copenhagen of one day was to save money [20:28] so maybe the reality is its about costs and not about opening things up to everyone [20:28] the party line was that feedback said 5 days was too long and people got tired so friday was useless [20:29] it is terribly expensive, we'll just have to work to replace face time we got at UDS with meetups at other conferences, or more ubucons [20:30] yeah [20:30] the community can do an ubucon for significantly less money than a UDS [20:30] I think the one at scale last week was $0 :) [20:31] yeah but what percentage of the Ubuntu community was able to make that on their own dime? [20:31] well, the idea is to have them throughout the world [20:31] and perhaps they'll even gain sponsors and stuff [20:32] huh [20:32] that would be nice [20:34] As sad as it may sound maybe this is a good opportunity to see who is contributing to contribute and who is contributing to get to UDS? [20:35] I do know that Canonical is apparently interested in putting more money at OSCON and buying a booth this year [20:35] I don't really believe there are many people like that [20:36] the process doesn't really skew to making that easy, and it doesn't make sense economically [20:36] pleia2: Mozilla has had that issue with their events and participation that being that we have a lot of people applying to be involved so they can get free trips and free food [20:36] (I could make a lot more money if I was paid for what I volunteer to do, could pay for a europe trip many times over) [20:36] Which is why they had to form a Oversight Task Force to weed out those people [20:36] yeah, I given how UDS sponsorship works I think there is a much lower chance of that [20:37] pleia2: well hopefully your new gig will be sending you to europe now and then huh? ;) [20:37] you actually need to be doing some real work that someone at canonical notices, it's not just raising your hand to volunteer at a booth [20:37] pleia2: true UDS did have good oversight from the engineering managers where Mozilla had much different approach [20:37] bkerensa: hah, if I speak at conferences I can go, so I certainly will be wandering to europe, plus I'll be attending the openstack summits [20:38] so travel isn't really a loss for me, seeing my ubuntu friends is [20:39] pleia2: oh so I will see you in Portland for OpenStack? [20:39] :D [20:39] bkerensa: yep! [20:39] I should book my travel soon actually [20:39] it's a week before my wedding, I am a brave soul ;) [20:40] pleia2: cool... I was invited as a openstack community member but not sure if I will be there for more than a few hours... I will try and setup a Ubuntu Hour during the evening one night though [20:40] cool [20:41] pleia2: you should wrangle a Ubuntu Women dinner ;p [20:41] OS women dinner! [20:41] the gnome mentees will be there :) [20:41] oh even better [20:41] if you arrange one I can announce it on the Mozilla list and pass it to all the OS women hackers I know [20:42] just thinking about that makes me feel tired, check back with me in 3 weeks [20:42] :) [20:42] <-- a bit worn out right now [20:43] turns out planning a wedding and changing jobs, a lot of work! [20:43] heh [20:43] Also I'm sure the Technocrats (group who decided on Xubuntu) at FreeGeek would love to meet you [20:44] cool [22:49] Anyone here from San Diego know when the next Ubuntu hour is? [23:27] kalenjohnson: you'll want to ask philipballew [23:27] when he's in the channel :/ or on twitter [23:38] raevol, yeah thanks, I know he's the main dude in the area