| rick_h_ | snap-l woot! | 00:06 |
|---|---|---|
| snap-l | Yeah, happy happy. | 00:37 |
| snap-l | Yay Ceph Talk for March MUG Meeting | 01:49 |
| rick_h_ | woot | 02:00 |
| greg-g | cool, we're making use of Ceph here | 03:43 |
| greg-g | you know, it feels good to work for a legit tech company now ;) | 03:44 |
| snap-l | Heh | 03:44 |
| snap-l | AS opposed to "OMG, please don't screw things up or we'll be screwed"? | 03:44 |
| greg-g | basically, and more :) | 03:45 |
| jrwren | what you using ceph for? | 04:19 |
| * greg-g shrugs | 04:20 | |
| greg-g | :) | 04:20 |
| greg-g | jrwren: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Media_storage | 04:22 |
| jrwren | ty | 04:45 |
| jrwren | so only media files. | 04:45 |
| jrwren | damn, was hoping for everything :) | 04:45 |
| snap-l | heh | 04:48 |
| rick_h_ | morning | 12:52 |
| snap-l | mornng | 12:54 |
| rick_h_ | got the shovels out and ready | 12:55 |
| rick_h_ | come on snow!!!! | 12:56 |
| rick_h_ | that radar looks pretty with all those colors :P | 12:56 |
| rick_h_ | bah, sounds like it's moved to later in the day | 13:01 |
| snap-l | Again: I have a board meeting. The later the better. :) | 14:09 |
| jrwren | anyone have thoughts on how libvirt and ganeti fit together? or don't they? are they competing? complementary? | 14:53 |
| jrwren | nvm. ganeti is google's non-libvirt | 14:54 |
| rick_h_ | yea, not really read much on ganeti but looking now it seems competing to an extent | 14:55 |
| jrwren | just saw it referenced in that how we use ceph post by jcastro | 15:19 |
| jcastro | do they use ganeti? | 15:21 |
| jcastro | jrwren: I am lunching with sellers this week yo | 15:22 |
| jrwren | they support it. | 15:23 |
| jrwren | ganeti can point directly to rados for storage. | 15:23 |
| jrwren | http://ceph.com/community/ceph-comes-to-synnefo-and-ganeti/ linked from your http://ceph.com/dev-notes/deploying-ceph-with-juju/ | 15:23 |
| jrwren | !!! Have fun with Sellers. | 15:23 |
| jrwren | make him wine you and dine you :) | 15:23 |
| jcastro | oh, in the intro | 15:25 |
| jcastro | I totally missed that link | 15:25 |
| snap-l | jcastro: Did you see on G+ that we're having Patrick McGarry talk about Ceph in March? | 15:27 |
| snap-l | Apparently he'll be doing a demo using something called "Juju" | 15:27 |
| jrwren | lol | 15:27 |
| rick_h_ | hah | 15:28 |
| snap-l | I swear, people must think we have verbal ticks whenever we have conversations | 15:28 |
| snap-l | "ceph comes to synneinfo an ganeti using juju deploy" | 15:28 |
| snap-l | berp de derp derp | 15:29 |
| jcastro | hah yeah | 15:32 |
| jrwren | ceph could be wonderful. | 15:33 |
| jrwren | a radosgw s3 bridge could be sweet which mirrors your radosgw content to s3. | 15:34 |
| jrwren | although I guess you could do that app level easily enough | 15:34 |
| rick_h_ | very cool, pushing Go to the limits and cool to see A2 hosting on there as signed on to support it http://r.bmark.us/u/17752200544930 | 15:52 |
| snap-l | Nice! | 15:54 |
| snap-l | x10Hosting <- Wonder if that's web over powerlines. | 15:56 |
| snap-l | hey turn a04 on | 15:56 |
| snap-l | heyu, rather | 15:56 |
| jcastro | rick_h_: man, railgun looks badass | 16:08 |
| jcastro | rick_h_: filed a bug on it for a charm | 16:14 |
| jrwren | the CSP v. threaded C++ comment shows a fundamental lack of understanding by either the code author, or the article author | 16:21 |
| greg-g | man, bugzilla is annoying | 16:39 |
| greg-g | I can't believe I'm going to say it, but, LP spoiled me :) | 16:40 |
| snap-l | Bugzilla is when you care more about reporting than filing bugs | 16:44 |
| snap-l | And dare I say it: more than fixing bugs. *cough* | 16:45 |
| greg-g | or getting bugs backported to a specific release, apparently | 16:45 |
| greg-g | fucking tags and shit | 16:45 |
| snap-l | Yeah, Bugzilla reminded me of the IT forms from Ford under Remedy | 16:48 |
| snap-l | Lots of fields that may or may not apply, but supported one workflow that (god help you) you better follow or bad juju occurs. | 16:49 |
| greg-g | yeah | 16:53 |
| jrwren | zomg Remedy | 16:53 |
| greg-g | and you have to remember so much... | 16:53 |
| * jrwren has flashbackes | 16:53 | |
| snap-l | jrwren: Supported some of the patches that Ford did to that system using Perl. | 16:54 |
| jrwren | i only had to use it. | 16:57 |
| jrwren | that was bad enough | 16:57 |
| rick_h_ | 50% off http://shop.oreilly.com/product/0636920027072.do | 16:57 |
| rick_h_ | shuttleworth on stage http://www.mobileworldlive.com/mobile-world-live-tv-live-stream | 17:25 |
| snap-l | I want this guys hair | 17:30 |
| rick_h_ | http://www.weather.com/weather/map/interactive/48346:4?interactiveMapLayer=radar&baseMap=r&zoom=7 lol, ever feel like a wave is coming at you? | 17:31 |
| snap-l | Not looking forward to this. | 17:31 |
| jcastro | hah yeah | 17:32 |
| jcastro | it's raining here right now | 17:32 |
| rick_h_ | yea, it's showing 33 here, hoping we get just full snow | 17:32 |
| rick_h_ | but sounds like rain for a couple of hours until it turns to snow :( | 17:32 |
| snap-l | Yeah, that's how it's supposed to start | 17:32 |
| snap-l | so it'll be a nice wet sheet to freeze under a pile of snow | 17:33 |
| rick_h_ | yea, nothing like a solid ice base layer to help out the shoveling later | 17:33 |
| jcastro | hah yeah | 17:33 |
| jrwren | any reprepro users? | 17:34 |
| snap-l | jrwren: No. What's that? | 17:34 |
| jrwren | very nice repo mirror tool | 17:34 |
| jrwren | but i can't figure quite how to get it to filter the way I want. | 17:34 |
| rick_h_ | no, when I did a deb mirror I just did full deb mirror | 17:34 |
| jrwren | I want an ubuntu mirror minus x11,games,video,kde,gnome Sections | 17:35 |
| jrwren | and then I'd also like to filter some packages out too | 17:35 |
| jcastro | have you seen ubumirror in the archive? | 17:35 |
| jrwren | no | 17:35 |
| jcastro | https://launchpad.net/ubumirror | 17:36 |
| jcastro | I don't know the specifics, but I would start there | 17:36 |
| jcastro | or just set up a proxy and you'd only ever mirror on demand | 17:36 |
| jrwren | thanks. | 17:36 |
| snap-l | jcastro: BTW: Oakland's mirror is behind | 17:36 |
| snap-l | severely. | 17:36 |
| jrwren | in the proxy case, I'm worried about stale things getting deleted that I actually want to keep around | 17:37 |
| jrwren | yeah, ubumirror is not what I want. | 17:37 |
| jrwren | no partial support | 17:37 |
| rick_h_ | what's the use case? I tried the 'mirror what I use' but then it's basically always slow when I use it since i'm not loading 100 machines with the same package sets | 17:38 |
| jrwren | use case is datacenter with lots of ubuntu servers. | 17:39 |
| jrwren | and I don't want to waste space | 17:39 |
| rick_h_ | meh, in a DC, how much space are you talking? | 17:39 |
| jrwren | i mean really, I don't want terabytes of gnome/kde stuff when I'll always be server only | 17:39 |
| snap-l | jrwren: What's the climate for creating an official mirror? | 17:39 |
| jrwren | we don't have bandwidth to spare | 17:40 |
| rick_h_ | jrwren: all 64bit? | 17:40 |
| jrwren | yes, all 64bit | 17:40 |
| jrwren | only amd64/main | 17:40 |
| rick_h_ | I wonder how big it is. I just find something saying full mirror was around 248GB, but I bet that's both 32/64bit | 17:41 |
| jrwren | even if I only save 1/4 of that, it is worth it IMO. for moving the VM around, backup, etc. | 17:41 |
| rick_h_ | yea, gotcha. I'm just the guy that mirrors all of pypi so wrong guy to talk to. | 17:42 |
| jrwren | rofl. | 17:43 |
| jrwren | that shit is NUTS | 17:43 |
| rick_h_ | it's 30GB, who cares. pip install anything on the airplane ftw :) | 17:43 |
| snap-l | jrwren: Let me introduce you to rick_h_, who never does anything by halves. | 17:43 |
| jrwren | pypi mirror is that small? | 17:44 |
| rick_h_ | hmm, up to 45gb right now | 17:44 |
| jrwren | still, that is small enough, we should really have one here. | 17:44 |
| rick_h_ | on my disk | 17:44 |
| rick_h_ | yea, <3 it | 17:44 |
| rick_h_ | plus when someone does something stupid like remove an old .tar.gz I pull it out of my repo anyway bwuhahahahaha | 17:44 |
| snap-l | jrwren: yeah, all of the real code is on github. They just put stubs in there to do curl. | 17:44 |
| snap-l | Oh wait, that's Ruby. | 17:45 |
| rick_h_ | yea, those packages need to diaf | 17:45 |
| jrwren | mirror github | 17:45 |
| rick_h_ | now you're talking | 17:45 |
| snap-l | git clone github | 17:45 |
| rick_h_ | tar czf github.tar.gz git:// | 17:46 |
| jcastro | jrwren: a full mirror isn't as big as you'd think | 17:46 |
| jcastro | it's like, way under a TB | 17:46 |
| jcastro | iirc at OU it was like 300GB and we were carrying i386 and a bunch of other crap | 17:47 |
| rick_h_ | right, that's what I mean. set aside 500GB and just always have everythign you need and pull the internet plug without worry | 17:47 |
| jcastro | though, I prefer to just run squid-deb-proxy and set an apt config (though probably without zeroconf in a server setting) | 17:47 |
| rick_h_ | nothing worse than needing one thing that's not in the bucket when you need it | 17:47 |
| jcastro | yeah, but in a server setting you have the machines cronning the updates | 17:48 |
| jcastro | you only need one machine to go before yours. | 17:48 |
| jcastro | though that doesn't help when you want like 34503984GB of eclipse and no one else has done that yet | 17:48 |
| jcastro | but IME, the machine after the first kickstart sucks, after that, it's mostly good | 17:49 |
| jrwren | we have a list of concerns a mile long when it comes to this. | 17:49 |
| jrwren | we know what we want. we aren't sure best way to get it. | 17:49 |
| jcastro | are you coming to lunch? | 17:49 |
| jcastro | wait, you work with sellers right? | 17:49 |
| jrwren | yes. | 17:50 |
| jrwren | he didn't invite me, so I guess not. | 17:50 |
| jcastro | lol | 17:50 |
| rick_h_ | man, this is actually kind of interestnig to listen to these three discuss the phone platforms | 18:02 |
| rick_h_ | err, interesting | 18:02 |
| rick_h_ | I keep thinking I'll just turn it off...but nope | 18:02 |
| jcastro | yeah | 18:06 |
| jcastro | I know | 18:06 |
| jrwren | for the record, reprepro is awesome. I needed to learn that , is the and operator in the stupid deb selection language | 18:22 |
| jrwren | | and , instead of | and &. strange at first, but i'll admit it isn't bad | 18:22 |
| rick_h_ | coolio | 18:25 |
| rick_h_ | love it when taking 20min to tinker pays off | 18:25 |
| rick_h_ | jcastro: gotta say Mark wins the keyword wars. Afterwards everyone is using his phrasing "lustful experiences..." lol | 18:26 |
| jcastro | hah | 18:26 |
| jcastro | the commenters are right though | 18:26 |
| jcastro | a bunch of things left unanswered, etc. | 18:26 |
| rick_h_ | yep, but I think some of that comes to the platforms 'secret sauce' | 18:27 |
| jrwren | why does open source need secret sauce? | 18:27 |
| rick_h_ | but I love how Mark is like "our research shows..." and the firefox lady is "well our research shows" | 18:27 |
| rick_h_ | jrwren: because they're products in the process of defining, not everythign is set/done yet | 18:27 |
| jrwren | i'm just really glad we are finally getting some good alternatives. | 18:27 |
| jcastro | my research shows I am sick of shitty phones | 18:27 |
| jrwren | ios and android are too closed and suck. | 18:27 |
| jcastro | and I want a good alternative | 18:27 |
| rick_h_ | lol | 18:27 |
| rick_h_ | lol weather rss ftw: Current Conditions : ..., Light Ice Pellets | 18:46 |
| snap-l | Ugh | 18:49 |
| jrwren | me at work: "is that a 10Gig switch" :) got a cool answer. | 18:57 |
| jrwren | and damn if we won't be going fast as hell with that thing | 18:57 |
| rick_h_ | very cool | 18:59 |
| greg-g | No more in-person UDSs? wow | 19:23 |
| dzho | oh? | 19:24 |
| rick_h_ | greg-g: nope, hangouts ftw | 19:24 |
| greg-g | snap-l: you on community-announce list? if so, plz forward to -us-mi list | 19:24 |
| greg-g | rick_h_: or ftl, to be determined :) | 19:24 |
| greg-g | rick_h_: will there still be Canonical "all hands" (for some definition of "all") in the future? | 19:25 |
| rick_h_ | greg-g: yea, definitely. Meant more cool that hangouts have come along | 19:25 |
| jcastro | greg-g: there will be team sprints still | 19:25 |
| rick_h_ | greg-g: I'm not sure. I know there are still sprints, but not sure about a real all hands like that. | 19:25 |
| greg-g | yeah, we use em here a lot for meetings, but hose are mostly 2-5 people | 19:25 |
| jcastro | but we haven't had a full all hands since Spain | 19:25 |
| greg-g | gotcha | 19:25 |
| greg-g | oh, really? huh | 19:25 |
| greg-g | good to know | 19:25 |
| jcastro | G+ every 3 months instead | 19:25 |
| jcastro | so we'll be more agile too | 19:26 |
| greg-g | cool | 19:26 |
| greg-g | bbiab, lunch meeting | 19:26 |
| snap-l | greg-g: Oh nuts... I think I deleted that. :) | 19:27 |
| snap-l | Just forwarded. | 19:29 |
| snap-l | This is awesome | 19:29 |
| snap-l | ALthough there go my dreams of ever being a part of the Ubuntu all-stars | 19:30 |
| snap-l | Les Sob | 19:30 |
| rick_h_ | heh, well at least I made 3 days of a UDS before they were killed off | 19:33 |
| snap-l | It makes more sense, honestly | 19:35 |
| snap-l | It'll be interesting to see how the Global Jam works out this weekend | 19:35 |
| dzho | nice way to get google in there are essential infrastructure | 19:41 |
| dzho | s/are/as/ | 19:42 |
| snap-l | Would you prefer Skype? :) | 19:44 |
| dzho | heh | 19:44 |
| rick_h_ | no multi user video on skype for linux :( | 19:45 |
| snap-l | rick_h_: Snark begets snark. :) | 19:47 |
| rick_h_ | :P | 19:47 |
| rick_h_ | snap-l: no snow yet :( | 19:47 |
| widox | lovely freezing rain here :-/ | 19:48 |
| jrwren | assuming the output of this command is correct, I'll have an 8.5GB mirror :) | 19:48 |
| jrwren | reprepro -V --noskipold checkupdate | grep ^Size | awk '{sum+=$2}END{print sum}' | 19:48 |
| jrwren | no java, no kde, no gnome, no qt, no gtk, no games, no sound, no tex, no video, no x11 makes for a small ubunt u:) | 19:49 |
| jrwren | hell, I could fit it on a DL DVD | 19:50 |
| jrwren | tempting :) | 19:50 |
| rick_h_ | I remember when I would install debian from their little 50mb cd | 19:50 |
| rick_h_ | used to love that | 19:50 |
| jrwren | yup | 19:50 |
| jrwren | or netinst from 2 floppy boot | 19:51 |
| jrwren | LLOVED that | 19:51 |
| dzho | rootboot, huzzah | 19:51 |
| jrwren | kernel on 1 floppy, root/inst on second floppy - and the rest from net :) | 19:51 |
| jrwren | which is not much diffent from todays pxe & minimal boot insts | 19:51 |
| jrwren | oh yeah, no libreoffice or openoffice, those are large. | 19:52 |
| snap-l | I remember when it was all Slackware diskettes as far as the eye could see | 19:54 |
| snap-l | network installs and upgrades were for weenies. | 19:54 |
| jrwren | that was never true | 19:57 |
| rick_h_ | pixel reviews...man if my wife's EMR worked on Chrome I'd have gotten this vs the thinkpad for her I think http://r.bmark.us/u/26761b11b86272 | 20:20 |
| rick_h_ | kind of cool, can read with the 'publisher font' on the kindle night light' so reading python cookbook with oreilly font choice. | 20:24 |
| greg-g | so not happy with this Dell XPS 13 | 20:40 |
| jcastro | what? you went non thinkpad? | 20:41 |
| greg-g | yeah, not happy (work laptop) | 20:42 |
| greg-g | I didn't really have a choice | 20:42 |
| jcastro | nod | 20:43 |
| jcastro | I mean, theoretically you'd think it'd be awesome | 20:43 |
| greg-g | blegh, if I wanted to have a Macbook Air but couldn't afford it, or something | 20:43 |
| rick_h_ | greg-g: :( | 20:45 |
| rick_h_ | the trifecta is complete. rain to ice to snow | 21:51 |
| greg-g | yum | 21:52 |
| jcastro | hey greg-g what's your tldr on this thing? https://gitorious.org/copyleft-next/copyleft-next/blobs/raw/master/Releases/copyleft-next-0.2.0 | 21:59 |
| jcastro | ever hear of it? | 21:59 |
| greg-g | hahaha | 22:13 |
| greg-g | so, fontana (red hat lawyer, persistent instigator of bkuhn) is drafting an updated copyleft license for reasons that are opaque. | 22:14 |
| greg-g | theories: | 22:14 |
| greg-g | 1) license as art, especially the repurcussions/discussions around it with especially bkuhn | 22:14 |
| greg-g | 2) legitamately address nagging legal issues with copyleft licesnses (esp GPL) | 22:15 |
| greg-g | 3) something else | 22:15 |
| greg-g | jcastro: ^ | 22:15 |
| greg-g | I follow him on identi.ca, and the discussions are hilarious | 22:16 |
| greg-g | he's always trolling bkuhn, and tagging his posts #notatroll or #trulynotatroll | 22:16 |
| greg-g | so good, comedy gold | 22:16 |
| greg-g | he trolls bkuhn so well because they, I believe, are actually pretty good friends in real life | 22:16 |
| rick_h_ | sweet, fun drive to go pick up the wife from work. I'll be back out later. Nice and slick. | 22:30 |
| jcastro | greg-g: ok so they want a session @ UDS to discuss this license for ubuntu developers | 22:58 |
| jcastro | I'm thinking this is a waste of time | 22:58 |
| greg-g | jcastro: lol, saw that on identi.ca | 23:36 |
| greg-g | jcastro: license development that are strictly OSI approved/approvable shouldn't be a concern of Ubuntu, right | 23:36 |
| jcastro | this doesn't even look real | 23:37 |
| greg-g | jcastro: real as in? | 23:38 |
| jcastro | this whole thing | 23:38 |
| jcastro | looks like satire to me | 23:38 |
| greg-g | jcastro: right, option 1 | 23:38 |
| greg-g | :) | 23:38 |
| snap-l | I think it's just trolling, personally | 23:51 |
| snap-l | Anytime I've ever engaged with Fontana, I have a hard time figuring out if he's trolling me, or if he's being serious | 23:52 |
| jcastro | well then, he can go through the normal submission process, shrug | 23:53 |
| snap-l | Speaking of performance as art: http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/199fuq/falcon_pro_developer_increases_app_price_to_13213/ | 23:55 |
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