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kbmonkeymorning05:45
magespawngood day06:40
Kiloshi superfly and all others06:42
superflymorning magespawn and Kilos06:42
magespawno/ Kilos and superfly06:47
Squirmargh06:51
Squirmto be awoken :/06:51
magespawnsuch is this life Squirm07:03
magespawnjust run into the fun that is ie rendering a page different from firefox and chrome07:07
Vince-0Ooh, run - just run07:08
Squirmmagespawn: had Monday and today off. but guess what, I have to help people with their computer troubles and all I want to do is sleep07:08
magespawnthis might come across as a bit arrogant but you could say "Lack of planning and forsight on your part, does not constitute and emergency on mine."07:10
Vince-0"computer says no07:11
Squirmwhat if it's to your father :P07:23
Squirm@ magespawn 07:23
Squirmlol07:23
magespawnthen you could find yourself disowned/out of will/shot depending lol07:24
* Squirm must remember not to go home if he wants rest on leave07:24
henkjhey Squirm 07:38
Squirmhello henkj 07:40
Squirmhow thing going down there?07:40
henkjpretty good thanks, what's this about you not going home if you want rest?07:41
SquirmA[09:08:59] .:Squirm:. magespawn: had Monday and today off. but guess what, I have to help people with their computer troubles and all I want to do is sleep07:42
magespawnand its family07:42
Squirmbut I get woken up early :/07:42
magespawnsleep is over rated07:42
Squirmnot when you just want to rest07:44
henkjthankfully I get those calls in the evening08:18
ThatGraemeGuymorning08:32
superflyaloha08:45
superflySquirm: I don't fix Windows computers :-) that solves most problems08:46
superflyohi Mezenir08:54
Squirmsuperfly: problem is I am able to, so I get asked to09:05
magespawnproject for March: network boot an Asus A7N266-VM through an add on network card. why? because onboard ide does not work and there is not support to boot from usb09:40
Kilosai09:50
Kilosyo SubOracle 09:50
Squirmmagespawn: edubuntu does it out of the box09:51
Kilosyou think its the drive or ide sockets on the m/b magespawn 09:51
Squirmmagespawn: are you looking to install an OS?09:51
henkjSquirm: I'm not sure if I am able to fix windows issues anymore, all I do with windows is play games10:00
Kiloshi henkj  thats about what its good for10:01
henkjhi Kilos, it is pretty good at that10:02
Kilosyeah10:02
henkjbut steam for linux is improving the prospects for gaming on linux10:02
Kilosi think gaming is the main thing holding lotsa peeps back from dropping winsucks10:03
henkjatm I play a windows only game10:03
henkjI agree, but I can see why it's like that10:04
henkjwindows games get more polish because they have a larger audience, so linux games don't look as appealing, so all the gamers stay on windows, so not viable to make polished linux games10:05
henkjkickstarter has shown that there are enough people who want linux games (and are willing to pay for them)10:06
henkjnvidia has been improving their linux drivers a lot recently10:07
henkjso things are getting better10:07
Kilosoh well lets hope10:08
magespawnSquirm and Kilos i think that it is the id sockets on the mb, any os will do10:09
Kilosouch10:09
magespawnbut it now looks like the board is a bit more fried than i thought, it does not detect the add on lan card10:09
Kilosboth?10:09
magespawnyes 10:09
Kilosouch that suks10:10
magespawnold board, so now it is on to the next one10:10
magespawngotta go bbl 10:11
Kilosk10:11
Symmetriahttp://www.alstonnetworks.net/pics/doggie.jpg <=== lol, my dogs new favorite toy10:45
Symmetriashe runs around the house for hours on end with that in her mouth10:45
Squirmours does too11:19
Squirmfunny thing though, he can't hold it for long. so it's easy to get it from him11:19
Squirmit just slips out of his mouth11:20
Squirmbbl11:21
magespawnthis looks like fun http://global.novationmusic.com/midi-controllers-digital-dj/launchpad11:29
magespawnsuperfly ping11:35
mazalLo all11:48
mazalOom Kilos11:48
Kiloslo mazal 11:48
mazalI need oom in your channel11:48
Kilossec ill open it11:48
mazalHow is everyone still doing ? Hopefully we will be back sometime after all our projects is done11:55
Kiloswe gaan maar aan11:57
mazalSjoe I miss the quiet days11:57
Mezenirhey superfly12:10
Mezenirhey kilos 12:10
Mezenirhey all12:10
Kiloshi Mezenir 12:10
mazalLo Mezenir 12:12
Squirmback12:42
Kilosohi ThatGraemeGuy 12:50
* Squirm looks around12:50
* ThatGraemeGuy waves12:51
Squirmdownloaded a big bang theory last week and forgot about it12:54
Squirmmeans I can watch it now :)12:54
Kiloshehe they nuts them peeps12:55
magespawnnice if you can get it http://www.itweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=62014&A=GAD&S=Broadband&O=E&E=geames@lantic.net13:29
ThatGraemeGuyand if you can afford it: http://mybroadband.co.za/news/broadband/71312-mweb-20mbps-and-40mbps-uncapped-vdsl-prices-revealed.html14:18
magespawni would love 40mbps14:33
tumbleweedlet's start by actually getting anywhere near 10mbps international throughput (most ISPs struggle with that)14:38
tumbleweed40mbps local would sure be handy, though14:38
magespawnwith 40mbps could you host your own servers?15:25
Symmetriano, because thats downstream not upstream15:26
magespawndoes it work the same as adsl ie upstream is half of downstream?15:27
magespawni can only get a maximum of 4mbps here anyway so the point is academic15:31
Kilosi wish one of you clever peeps would work out or tell me how to move a mbr to a new place15:42
Kilossurely one can tell it not to use first 512bytes and look from 1m further15:43
inetproKilos: no15:43
Kilosno what15:44
Kilosno you wont tell me or no one cant15:45
Kilosif i can do that i got spanne drives that will work again15:46
inetproKilos: the mbr lives in the first 512 bytes15:46
inetprothat's where it needs to be15:47
Kilosyeah but you can make it larger with dd commands15:47
Kilosso thounk maybe there was a way to start looking after first 512 was missed out15:47
Kilosthunk too15:47
inetproget a proper disk man15:49
Kilosai! that 2 TB is a proper disk15:49
Kiloswas15:49
Kilosand 2 seagate 500m drives here too15:50
Kilos500g15:50
inetproso move the mbr to one of the other two15:50
Kilosthey all sick man15:50
Kilosgrrr15:50
inetproai!15:50
Kilosians pc with the virus in bios killed them methinks15:50
Kilosget messages like illegal drive00 sector 015:51
Kilosand even dd drive zero command cant wipe or write new one15:52
inetprohmm...15:52
Kilosbut if bios sees the drive and ubuntu doesnt say disk failure imminent then its not a scrap drive15:53
Kiloslets think15:54
Kilostake dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=512 count=115:54
Kilosand change that bs=512 count=115:55
Kilosto something that means 512 to 1024 or something15:56
Kilosubcd has a tool where one can manually edit the mbr but dunno where to find what it can be changed to16:00
Vince-0Ubuntu on air hangout in 30 minutes! http://ubuntuonair.com/16:01
magespawnWhat are they doing to day Vince-0?16:11
Vince-0 talk to Jamie and Marc from the #Ubuntu #Security team+16:11
Kilos-ai!16:17
Kilos-power died16:18
Vince-0welkom in Africa16:19
Kilos-lol16:19
Kilos-google tool to edit mbr on hdd16:31
magespawnit does not look like you can have the mbr moved on the disk but rather have it on another disk altogether16:34
magespawnbut have never done something like that before16:34
Kilos-oh my magespawn where you see that16:34
Kilos-that sounds wonderful16:35
Kilos-ill try it16:35
Kilos-nothing to lose16:35
magespawnadmitedly that is for the other os16:35
magespawnhttp://forums.cnet.com/7723-19411_102-398461/how-to-create-or-move-a-mbr/16:35
Kilos-mbr dont mind16:36
Kilos-ty so much will check now16:36
magespawnlooks like that might be mistaken though looks like they are talking about the boot loader16:37
Kilos-aw16:38
magespawnread here too https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Mbr16:38
Kilos-will do16:41
Kilos-even a command to copy one drives mbr to another might help16:41
Kilos-i looked here http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/Hard-Disk-Utils/MBRFix.shtml16:44
Kilos-but cant find where to download that mbrfix16:44
Kilos-goes to google adds16:44
Kilos-grrr16:44
magespawnwill have a look tomorrow on my way home now, later all16:50
Kilos-ty16:50
Kilos-go safe16:50
Kilos-got it ty magespawn 16:54
* Kilos- hates google16:54
Kilos-desperate times require desperate measures17:41
Kilos-gonna try http://tech.gaeatimes.com/index.php/archive/how-to-copy-master-boot-record-mbr-between-hard-disks/17:41
Kilos-hope it dont kill kde17:42
Kilos-wbb17:46
inetproKilos: but you said all your drives are broken18:06
Kilosno man ians are broken18:06
Kilosoh ya18:06
inetproso why you so happy about magespawn's suggestion?18:07
inetprobecause that'sexactly what I suggested18:07
Kilosi installed 10.10 on my 160g again but still got ians 500g that i fixed months ago with kde on18:07
Kilosok the moving mbr thing18:07
Kilosbut they not moving niks on one drive there18:08
inetproai!18:08
inetprodid you even read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Mbr ?18:08
Kilosthats some ou wanting to move mbr from hdd to ssd18:08
inetprosee: Boot-Order, Bios18:09
Kilosi want to fix ians other drive that has the corrupt mbr18:09
Kiloshe coulda changed boot drive in bios18:09
inetproand then "MBR Back-Up and Replacement"18:09
Kilosoh18:10
Kilosno man that mbr is badly corrupt18:10
inetproso just create a new mbr18:10
Kilosno good backing it up and no backup to restore from18:10
inetproon a proper disk18:10
Kilosi have this 500g kde that i want to copy its mbr to the bad drive18:11
Kilosof even backup this one and restore it to the bad one18:11
inetprothere's this thing called fixmbr18:12
Kilosjust gotta find where it backs up to18:12
inetproit normally comes with a windows boot disk18:12
Kilosits a win tool18:12
Kilosmy 2 copies of xp dont see sata drives18:12
inetproai!18:12
Kilosmy win7 can partition that bad drive but cant install18:13
inetprohave you tried doing fixmbr?18:13
Kilosi dunno why xp cant see the sata drives18:13
Kilosfixmbr from where18:13
Kilosyou have to go the install route with xp to run fixmbr and fixboot18:14
Kilosbut here it says no hdd so dont even get there18:15
inetprohmm...18:15
Kilosi wonder if boot-repair does mbr too\18:15
Kilosif i could get quassel to bloep at nick mentioned and not only make pling when window not in focus i wouldnt have anything but kde running18:18
Kilosim installing boot-repair here. if i disappear it killed kde for me again18:20
Kilosworked for ian last week though so heres hoping18:20
inetproai!18:21
inetproKilos: have you enabled sound for the event "Highlight when focussed"?18:22
Kilosoh didnt know there a focussed one too18:22
Kiloswill check18:22
inetproai!18:23
Kilosnope wasnt done18:23
Kilostalk to me lets see18:24
inetproKilos: why?18:24
KilosMaaz: coffee on18:24
* Maaz washes some mugs18:24
Kilosno sound18:24
Kilossigh18:24
Kilosmaybe quassel needs a restart18:25
Kiloswbb18:25
inetproMaaz: coffee please18:25
Maazinetpro: Sure18:25
Kiloshmm...18:25
magespawnevening all18:28
Kilosai! dunno why boot-repair dont install here18:28
Kiloshi magespawn 18:28
MaazCoffee's ready for Kilos and inetpro!18:28
KilosMaaz: ty18:28
MaazYou are welcome Kilos18:28
magespawnsuperfly you got a moment18:28
magespawnhey Kilos 18:28
Kilossee inetpro no sound when focussed18:28
inetproKilos: hmm.... that must be a bug18:28
* inetpro just tested also18:29
Kilosdoes yours work inetpro 18:29
inetproKilos: no18:29
Kilosai!18:29
inetpromaybe it's not supposed to work18:29
inetpromaybe it is a feature and not a bug18:29
magespawnwell at least we know now that it is not just Kilos 18:30
Kiloswell you and the fly are kde experts18:30
Kiloshahaha18:30
Kilosi think the fly said his works when i first tried quassel18:31
inetproKilos: well it is the first time ever that you say you want it to work while you have the window in focus18:31
inetproor at least first time I see that you say that18:32
inetprobut maybe I forget18:32
Kilosno man dodo i always leave ubuntu-za in focus so if i hear the sound while cooking i dont first have to find where i am18:33
inetproso just switch to another window as you leave for cooking man18:33
inetproit's so simple to press Alt+Tab18:33
Kilosai! now a restart is needed to complete the upgrade18:33
Kilosgrrr18:33
Kiloshi smile4ever 18:35
Kiloswbb18:35
smile4ever:o18:36
magespawno/18:39
smile4evermagespawn: how are you? :D18:39
magespawngood and you smile4ever ?18:40
smile4evertoo! :)18:40
smile4evera bit busy18:40
smile4ever;)18:40
magespawnbusy is good18:41
smile4everhehe, yeah18:42
smile4everlearning French18:42
smile4ever:)18:42
superflymagespawn: what's up?18:42
magespawnhey superfly 18:43
magespawni was going to edit the ubuntu-za.org involved page today, and it appears i do not have a log in there, i just wanted to make sure before i crate another18:44
magespawns/crate/create18:44
superflymagespawn: uh, I'll have a look for you in about 10 minutes, need to get the eldest insect off to bed18:57
magespawnno worries superfly no rush at all18:59
Kilosai! kde cant see sdb19:05
* Kilos cries19:05
Kilosnight all. sleep tight19:19
smile4everbye19:31
smile4ever:)19:31
superflymagespawn: other than your IRC nick, what other user name would you have chosen19:50
magespawnmaybe my launchpad one = geames19:50
magespawni did try them and my email addresses and my openid19:51
superflymagespawn: nope, can't find either of those19:54
magespawnokay cool ty will make one tomorrow19:57
superflylet me know when you do so that I can give you the appropriate permissions on the site20:00
magespawnwill do20:01
nuviarchpeedong20:14
nuviarchmeh20:15
nuviarcharch FTW20:15
nuviarch(for the time being)20:15
magespawnlol20:22
magespawngood night all 20:41
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* nlsthzn ninja's in from work after many many moons and finds the room... quiet...22:45

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