[05:45] <kbmonkey> morning
[06:40] <magespawn> good day
[06:42] <Kilos> hi superfly and all others
[06:42] <superfly> morning magespawn and Kilos
[06:47] <magespawn> o/ Kilos and superfly
[06:51] <Squirm> argh
[06:51] <Squirm> to be awoken :/
[07:03] <magespawn> such is this life Squirm
[07:07] <magespawn> just run into the fun that is ie rendering a page different from firefox and chrome
[07:08] <Vince-0> Ooh, run - just run
[07:08] <Squirm> magespawn: had Monday and today off. but guess what, I have to help people with their computer troubles and all I want to do is sleep
[07:10] <magespawn> this might come across as a bit arrogant but you could say "Lack of planning and forsight on your part, does not constitute and emergency on mine."
[07:11] <Vince-0> "computer says no
[07:23] <Squirm> what if it's to your father :P
[07:23] <Squirm> @ magespawn 
[07:23] <Squirm> lol
[07:24] <magespawn> then you could find yourself disowned/out of will/shot depending lol
[07:24]  * Squirm must remember not to go home if he wants rest on leave
[07:38] <henkj> hey Squirm 
[07:40] <Squirm> hello henkj 
[07:40] <Squirm> how thing going down there?
[07:41] <henkj> pretty good thanks, what's this about you not going home if you want rest?
[07:42] <Squirm> A[09:08:59] .:Squirm:. magespawn: had Monday and today off. but guess what, I have to help people with their computer troubles and all I want to do is sleep
[07:42] <magespawn> and its family
[07:42] <Squirm> but I get woken up early :/
[07:42] <magespawn> sleep is over rated
[07:44] <Squirm> not when you just want to rest
[08:18] <henkj> thankfully I get those calls in the evening
[08:32] <ThatGraemeGuy> morning
[08:45] <superfly> aloha
[08:46] <superfly> Squirm: I don't fix Windows computers :-) that solves most problems
[08:54] <superfly> ohi Mezenir
[09:05] <Squirm> superfly: problem is I am able to, so I get asked to
[09:40] <magespawn> project for March: network boot an Asus A7N266-VM through an add on network card. why? because onboard ide does not work and there is not support to boot from usb
[09:50] <Kilos> ai
[09:50] <Kilos> yo SubOracle 
[09:51] <Squirm> magespawn: edubuntu does it out of the box
[09:51] <Kilos> you think its the drive or ide sockets on the m/b magespawn 
[09:51] <Squirm> magespawn: are you looking to install an OS?
[10:00] <henkj> Squirm: I'm not sure if I am able to fix windows issues anymore, all I do with windows is play games
[10:01] <Kilos> hi henkj  thats about what its good for
[10:02] <henkj> hi Kilos, it is pretty good at that
[10:02] <Kilos> yeah
[10:02] <henkj> but steam for linux is improving the prospects for gaming on linux
[10:03] <Kilos> i think gaming is the main thing holding lotsa peeps back from dropping winsucks
[10:03] <henkj> atm I play a windows only game
[10:04] <henkj> I agree, but I can see why it's like that
[10:05] <henkj> windows games get more polish because they have a larger audience, so linux games don't look as appealing, so all the gamers stay on windows, so not viable to make polished linux games
[10:06] <henkj> kickstarter has shown that there are enough people who want linux games (and are willing to pay for them)
[10:07] <henkj> nvidia has been improving their linux drivers a lot recently
[10:07] <henkj> so things are getting better
[10:08] <Kilos> oh well lets hope
[10:09] <magespawn> Squirm and Kilos i think that it is the id sockets on the mb, any os will do
[10:09] <Kilos> ouch
[10:09] <magespawn> but it now looks like the board is a bit more fried than i thought, it does not detect the add on lan card
[10:09] <Kilos> both?
[10:09] <magespawn> yes 
[10:10] <Kilos> ouch that suks
[10:10] <magespawn> old board, so now it is on to the next one
[10:11] <magespawn> gotta go bbl 
[10:11] <Kilos> k
[10:45] <Symmetria> http://www.alstonnetworks.net/pics/doggie.jpg <[10:45] <Symmetria> she runs around the house for hours on end with that in her mouth
[11:19] <Squirm> ours does too
[11:19] <Squirm> funny thing though, he can't hold it for long. so it's easy to get it from him
[11:20] <Squirm> it just slips out of his mouth
[11:21] <Squirm> bbl
[11:29] <magespawn> this looks like fun http://global.novationmusic.com/midi-controllers-digital-dj/launchpad
[11:35] <magespawn> superfly ping
[11:48] <mazal> Lo all
[11:48] <mazal> Oom Kilos
[11:48] <Kilos> lo mazal 
[11:48] <mazal> I need oom in your channel
[11:48] <Kilos> sec ill open it
[11:55] <mazal> How is everyone still doing ? Hopefully we will be back sometime after all our projects is done
[11:57] <Kilos> we gaan maar aan
[11:57] <mazal> Sjoe I miss the quiet days
[12:10] <Mezenir> hey superfly
[12:10] <Mezenir> hey kilos 
[12:10] <Mezenir> hey all
[12:10] <Kilos> hi Mezenir 
[12:12] <mazal> Lo Mezenir 
[12:42] <Squirm> back
[12:50] <Kilos> ohi ThatGraemeGuy 
[12:50]  * Squirm looks around
[12:51]  * ThatGraemeGuy waves
[12:54] <Squirm> downloaded a big bang theory last week and forgot about it
[12:54] <Squirm> means I can watch it now :)
[12:55] <Kilos> hehe they nuts them peeps
[13:29] <magespawn> nice if you can get it http://www.itweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=62014&A=GAD&S=Broadband&O=E&E=geames@lantic.net
[14:18] <ThatGraemeGuy> and if you can afford it: http://mybroadband.co.za/news/broadband/71312-mweb-20mbps-and-40mbps-uncapped-vdsl-prices-revealed.html
[14:33] <magespawn> i would love 40mbps
[14:38] <tumbleweed> let's start by actually getting anywhere near 10mbps international throughput (most ISPs struggle with that)
[14:38] <tumbleweed> 40mbps local would sure be handy, though
[15:25] <magespawn> with 40mbps could you host your own servers?
[15:26] <Symmetria> no, because thats downstream not upstream
[15:27] <magespawn> does it work the same as adsl ie upstream is half of downstream?
[15:31] <magespawn> i can only get a maximum of 4mbps here anyway so the point is academic
[15:42] <Kilos> i wish one of you clever peeps would work out or tell me how to move a mbr to a new place
[15:43] <Kilos> surely one can tell it not to use first 512bytes and look from 1m further
[15:43] <inetpro> Kilos: no
[15:44] <Kilos> no what
[15:45] <Kilos> no you wont tell me or no one cant
[15:46] <Kilos> if i can do that i got spanne drives that will work again
[15:46] <inetpro> Kilos: the mbr lives in the first 512 bytes
[15:47] <inetpro> that's where it needs to be
[15:47] <Kilos> yeah but you can make it larger with dd commands
[15:47] <Kilos> so thounk maybe there was a way to start looking after first 512 was missed out
[15:47] <Kilos> thunk too
[15:49] <inetpro> get a proper disk man
[15:49] <Kilos> ai! that 2 TB is a proper disk
[15:49] <Kilos> was
[15:50] <Kilos> and 2 seagate 500m drives here too
[15:50] <Kilos> 500g
[15:50] <inetpro> so move the mbr to one of the other two
[15:50] <Kilos> they all sick man
[15:50] <Kilos> grrr
[15:50] <inetpro> ai!
[15:50] <Kilos> ians pc with the virus in bios killed them methinks
[15:51] <Kilos> get messages like illegal drive00 sector 0
[15:52] <Kilos> and even dd drive zero command cant wipe or write new one
[15:52] <inetpro> hmm...
[15:53] <Kilos> but if bios sees the drive and ubuntu doesnt say disk failure imminent then its not a scrap drive
[15:54] <Kilos> lets think
[15:54] <Kilos> take dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=512 count=1
[15:55] <Kilos> and change that bs=512 count=1
[15:56] <Kilos> to something that means 512 to 1024 or something
[16:00] <Kilos> ubcd has a tool where one can manually edit the mbr but dunno where to find what it can be changed to
[16:01] <Vince-0> Ubuntu on air hangout in 30 minutes! http://ubuntuonair.com/
[16:11] <magespawn> What are they doing to day Vince-0?
[16:11] <Vince-0>  talk to Jamie and Marc from the #Ubuntu #Security team+
[16:17] <Kilos-> ai!
[16:18] <Kilos-> power died
[16:19] <Vince-0> welkom in Africa
[16:19] <Kilos-> lol
[16:31] <Kilos-> google tool to edit mbr on hdd
[16:34] <magespawn> it does not look like you can have the mbr moved on the disk but rather have it on another disk altogether
[16:34] <magespawn> but have never done something like that before
[16:34] <Kilos-> oh my magespawn where you see that
[16:35] <Kilos-> that sounds wonderful
[16:35] <Kilos-> ill try it
[16:35] <Kilos-> nothing to lose
[16:35] <magespawn> admitedly that is for the other os
[16:35] <magespawn> http://forums.cnet.com/7723-19411_102-398461/how-to-create-or-move-a-mbr/
[16:36] <Kilos-> mbr dont mind
[16:36] <Kilos-> ty so much will check now
[16:37] <magespawn> looks like that might be mistaken though looks like they are talking about the boot loader
[16:38] <Kilos-> aw
[16:38] <magespawn> read here too https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Mbr
[16:41] <Kilos-> will do
[16:41] <Kilos-> even a command to copy one drives mbr to another might help
[16:44] <Kilos-> i looked here http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/Hard-Disk-Utils/MBRFix.shtml
[16:44] <Kilos-> but cant find where to download that mbrfix
[16:44] <Kilos-> goes to google adds
[16:44] <Kilos-> grrr
[16:50] <magespawn> will have a look tomorrow on my way home now, later all
[16:50] <Kilos-> ty
[16:50] <Kilos-> go safe
[16:54] <Kilos-> got it ty magespawn 
[16:54]  * Kilos- hates google
[17:41] <Kilos-> desperate times require desperate measures
[17:41] <Kilos-> gonna try http://tech.gaeatimes.com/index.php/archive/how-to-copy-master-boot-record-mbr-between-hard-disks/
[17:42] <Kilos-> hope it dont kill kde
[17:46] <Kilos-> wbb
[18:06] <inetpro> Kilos: but you said all your drives are broken
[18:06] <Kilos> no man ians are broken
[18:06] <Kilos> oh ya
[18:07] <inetpro> so why you so happy about magespawn's suggestion?
[18:07] <inetpro> because that'sexactly what I suggested
[18:07] <Kilos> i installed 10.10 on my 160g again but still got ians 500g that i fixed months ago with kde on
[18:07] <Kilos> ok the moving mbr thing
[18:08] <Kilos> but they not moving niks on one drive there
[18:08] <inetpro> ai!
[18:08] <inetpro> did you even read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Mbr ?
[18:08] <Kilos> thats some ou wanting to move mbr from hdd to ssd
[18:09] <inetpro> see: Boot-Order, Bios
[18:09] <Kilos> i want to fix ians other drive that has the corrupt mbr
[18:09] <Kilos> he coulda changed boot drive in bios
[18:09] <inetpro> and then "MBR Back-Up and Replacement"
[18:10] <Kilos> oh
[18:10] <Kilos> no man that mbr is badly corrupt
[18:10] <inetpro> so just create a new mbr
[18:10] <Kilos> no good backing it up and no backup to restore from
[18:10] <inetpro> on a proper disk
[18:11] <Kilos> i have this 500g kde that i want to copy its mbr to the bad drive
[18:11] <Kilos> of even backup this one and restore it to the bad one
[18:12] <inetpro> there's this thing called fixmbr
[18:12] <Kilos> just gotta find where it backs up to
[18:12] <inetpro> it normally comes with a windows boot disk
[18:12] <Kilos> its a win tool
[18:12] <Kilos> my 2 copies of xp dont see sata drives
[18:12] <inetpro> ai!
[18:13] <Kilos> my win7 can partition that bad drive but cant install
[18:13] <inetpro> have you tried doing fixmbr?
[18:13] <Kilos> i dunno why xp cant see the sata drives
[18:13] <Kilos> fixmbr from where
[18:14] <Kilos> you have to go the install route with xp to run fixmbr and fixboot
[18:15] <Kilos> but here it says no hdd so dont even get there
[18:15] <inetpro> hmm...
[18:15] <Kilos> i wonder if boot-repair does mbr too\
[18:18] <Kilos> if i could get quassel to bloep at nick mentioned and not only make pling when window not in focus i wouldnt have anything but kde running
[18:20] <Kilos> im installing boot-repair here. if i disappear it killed kde for me again
[18:20] <Kilos> worked for ian last week though so heres hoping
[18:21] <inetpro> ai!
[18:22] <inetpro> Kilos: have you enabled sound for the event "Highlight when focussed"?
[18:22] <Kilos> oh didnt know there a focussed one too
[18:22] <Kilos> will check
[18:23] <inetpro> ai!
[18:23] <Kilos> nope wasnt done
[18:24] <Kilos> talk to me lets see
[18:24] <inetpro> Kilos: why?
[18:24] <Kilos> Maaz: coffee on
[18:24]  * Maaz washes some mugs
[18:24] <Kilos> no sound
[18:24] <Kilos> sigh
[18:25] <Kilos> maybe quassel needs a restart
[18:25] <Kilos> wbb
[18:25] <inetpro> Maaz: coffee please
[18:25] <Maaz> inetpro: Sure
[18:25] <Kilos> hmm...
[18:28] <magespawn> evening all
[18:28] <Kilos> ai! dunno why boot-repair dont install here
[18:28] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[18:28] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos and inetpro!
[18:28] <Kilos> Maaz: ty
[18:28] <Maaz> You are welcome Kilos
[18:28] <magespawn> superfly you got a moment
[18:28] <magespawn> hey Kilos 
[18:28] <Kilos> see inetpro no sound when focussed
[18:28] <inetpro> Kilos: hmm.... that must be a bug
[18:29]  * inetpro just tested also
[18:29] <Kilos> does yours work inetpro 
[18:29] <inetpro> Kilos: no
[18:29] <Kilos> ai!
[18:29] <inetpro> maybe it's not supposed to work
[18:29] <inetpro> maybe it is a feature and not a bug
[18:30] <magespawn> well at least we know now that it is not just Kilos 
[18:30] <Kilos> well you and the fly are kde experts
[18:30] <Kilos> hahaha
[18:31] <Kilos> i think the fly said his works when i first tried quassel
[18:31] <inetpro> Kilos: well it is the first time ever that you say you want it to work while you have the window in focus
[18:32] <inetpro> or at least first time I see that you say that
[18:32] <inetpro> but maybe I forget
[18:33] <Kilos> no man dodo i always leave ubuntu-za in focus so if i hear the sound while cooking i dont first have to find where i am
[18:33] <inetpro> so just switch to another window as you leave for cooking man
[18:33] <inetpro> it's so simple to press Alt+Tab
[18:33] <Kilos> ai! now a restart is needed to complete the upgrade
[18:33] <Kilos> grrr
[18:35] <Kilos> hi smile4ever 
[18:35] <Kilos> wbb
[18:36] <smile4ever> :o
[18:39] <magespawn> o/
[18:39] <smile4ever> magespawn: how are you? :D
[18:40] <magespawn> good and you smile4ever ?
[18:40] <smile4ever> too! :)
[18:40] <smile4ever> a bit busy
[18:40] <smile4ever> ;)
[18:41] <magespawn> busy is good
[18:42] <smile4ever> hehe, yeah
[18:42] <smile4ever> learning French
[18:42] <smile4ever> :)
[18:42] <superfly> magespawn: what's up?
[18:43] <magespawn> hey superfly 
[18:44] <magespawn> i was going to edit the ubuntu-za.org involved page today, and it appears i do not have a log in there, i just wanted to make sure before i crate another
[18:44] <magespawn> s/crate/create
[18:57] <superfly> magespawn: uh, I'll have a look for you in about 10 minutes, need to get the eldest insect off to bed
[18:59] <magespawn> no worries superfly no rush at all
[19:05] <Kilos> ai! kde cant see sdb
[19:05]  * Kilos cries
[19:19] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[19:31] <smile4ever> bye
[19:31] <smile4ever> :)
[19:50] <superfly> magespawn: other than your IRC nick, what other user name would you have chosen
[19:50] <magespawn> maybe my launchpad one = geames
[19:51] <magespawn> i did try them and my email addresses and my openid
[19:54] <superfly> magespawn: nope, can't find either of those
[19:57] <magespawn> okay cool ty will make one tomorrow
[20:00] <superfly> let me know when you do so that I can give you the appropriate permissions on the site
[20:01] <magespawn> will do
[20:14] <nuviarch> peedong
[20:15] <nuviarch> meh
[20:15] <nuviarch> arch FTW
[20:15] <nuviarch> (for the time being)
[20:22] <magespawn> lol
[20:41] <magespawn> good night all 
[22:45]  * nlsthzn ninja's in from work after many many moons and finds the room... quiet...