[05:45] morning [06:40] good day [06:42] hi superfly and all others [06:42] morning magespawn and Kilos [06:47] o/ Kilos and superfly [06:51] argh [06:51] to be awoken :/ [07:03] such is this life Squirm [07:07] just run into the fun that is ie rendering a page different from firefox and chrome [07:08] Ooh, run - just run [07:08] magespawn: had Monday and today off. but guess what, I have to help people with their computer troubles and all I want to do is sleep [07:10] this might come across as a bit arrogant but you could say "Lack of planning and forsight on your part, does not constitute and emergency on mine." [07:11] "computer says no [07:23] what if it's to your father :P [07:23] @ magespawn [07:23] lol [07:24] then you could find yourself disowned/out of will/shot depending lol [07:24] * Squirm must remember not to go home if he wants rest on leave [07:38] hey Squirm [07:40] hello henkj [07:40] how thing going down there? [07:41] pretty good thanks, what's this about you not going home if you want rest? [07:42] A[09:08:59] .:Squirm:. magespawn: had Monday and today off. but guess what, I have to help people with their computer troubles and all I want to do is sleep [07:42] and its family [07:42] but I get woken up early :/ [07:42] sleep is over rated [07:44] not when you just want to rest [08:18] thankfully I get those calls in the evening [08:32] morning [08:45] aloha [08:46] Squirm: I don't fix Windows computers :-) that solves most problems [08:54] ohi Mezenir [09:05] superfly: problem is I am able to, so I get asked to [09:40] project for March: network boot an Asus A7N266-VM through an add on network card. why? because onboard ide does not work and there is not support to boot from usb [09:50] ai [09:50] yo SubOracle [09:51] magespawn: edubuntu does it out of the box [09:51] you think its the drive or ide sockets on the m/b magespawn [09:51] magespawn: are you looking to install an OS? [10:00] Squirm: I'm not sure if I am able to fix windows issues anymore, all I do with windows is play games [10:01] hi henkj thats about what its good for [10:02] hi Kilos, it is pretty good at that [10:02] yeah [10:02] but steam for linux is improving the prospects for gaming on linux [10:03] i think gaming is the main thing holding lotsa peeps back from dropping winsucks [10:03] atm I play a windows only game [10:04] I agree, but I can see why it's like that [10:05] windows games get more polish because they have a larger audience, so linux games don't look as appealing, so all the gamers stay on windows, so not viable to make polished linux games [10:06] kickstarter has shown that there are enough people who want linux games (and are willing to pay for them) [10:07] nvidia has been improving their linux drivers a lot recently [10:07] so things are getting better [10:08] oh well lets hope [10:09] Squirm and Kilos i think that it is the id sockets on the mb, any os will do [10:09] ouch [10:09] but it now looks like the board is a bit more fried than i thought, it does not detect the add on lan card [10:09] both? [10:09] yes [10:10] ouch that suks [10:10] old board, so now it is on to the next one [10:11] gotta go bbl [10:11] k [10:45] http://www.alstonnetworks.net/pics/doggie.jpg <=== lol, my dogs new favorite toy [10:45] she runs around the house for hours on end with that in her mouth [11:19] ours does too [11:19] funny thing though, he can't hold it for long. so it's easy to get it from him [11:20] it just slips out of his mouth [11:21] bbl [11:29] this looks like fun http://global.novationmusic.com/midi-controllers-digital-dj/launchpad [11:35] superfly ping [11:48] Lo all [11:48] Oom Kilos [11:48] lo mazal [11:48] I need oom in your channel [11:48] sec ill open it [11:55] How is everyone still doing ? Hopefully we will be back sometime after all our projects is done [11:57] we gaan maar aan [11:57] Sjoe I miss the quiet days [12:10] hey superfly [12:10] hey kilos [12:10] hey all [12:10] hi Mezenir [12:12] Lo Mezenir [12:42] back [12:50] ohi ThatGraemeGuy [12:50] * Squirm looks around [12:51] * ThatGraemeGuy waves [12:54] downloaded a big bang theory last week and forgot about it [12:54] means I can watch it now :) [12:55] hehe they nuts them peeps [13:29] nice if you can get it http://www.itweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=62014&A=GAD&S=Broadband&O=E&E=geames@lantic.net [14:18] and if you can afford it: http://mybroadband.co.za/news/broadband/71312-mweb-20mbps-and-40mbps-uncapped-vdsl-prices-revealed.html [14:33] i would love 40mbps [14:38] let's start by actually getting anywhere near 10mbps international throughput (most ISPs struggle with that) [14:38] 40mbps local would sure be handy, though [15:25] with 40mbps could you host your own servers? [15:26] no, because thats downstream not upstream [15:27] does it work the same as adsl ie upstream is half of downstream? [15:31] i can only get a maximum of 4mbps here anyway so the point is academic [15:42] i wish one of you clever peeps would work out or tell me how to move a mbr to a new place [15:43] surely one can tell it not to use first 512bytes and look from 1m further [15:43] Kilos: no [15:44] no what [15:45] no you wont tell me or no one cant [15:46] if i can do that i got spanne drives that will work again [15:46] Kilos: the mbr lives in the first 512 bytes [15:47] that's where it needs to be [15:47] yeah but you can make it larger with dd commands [15:47] so thounk maybe there was a way to start looking after first 512 was missed out [15:47] thunk too [15:49] get a proper disk man [15:49] ai! that 2 TB is a proper disk [15:49] was [15:50] and 2 seagate 500m drives here too [15:50] 500g [15:50] so move the mbr to one of the other two [15:50] they all sick man [15:50] grrr [15:50] ai! [15:50] ians pc with the virus in bios killed them methinks [15:51] get messages like illegal drive00 sector 0 [15:52] and even dd drive zero command cant wipe or write new one [15:52] hmm... [15:53] but if bios sees the drive and ubuntu doesnt say disk failure imminent then its not a scrap drive [15:54] lets think [15:54] take dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=512 count=1 [15:55] and change that bs=512 count=1 [15:56] to something that means 512 to 1024 or something [16:00] ubcd has a tool where one can manually edit the mbr but dunno where to find what it can be changed to [16:01] Ubuntu on air hangout in 30 minutes! http://ubuntuonair.com/ [16:11] What are they doing to day Vince-0? [16:11] talk to Jamie and Marc from the #Ubuntu #Security team+ [16:17] ai! [16:18] power died [16:19] welkom in Africa [16:19] lol [16:31] google tool to edit mbr on hdd [16:34] it does not look like you can have the mbr moved on the disk but rather have it on another disk altogether [16:34] but have never done something like that before [16:34] oh my magespawn where you see that [16:35] that sounds wonderful [16:35] ill try it [16:35] nothing to lose [16:35] admitedly that is for the other os [16:35] http://forums.cnet.com/7723-19411_102-398461/how-to-create-or-move-a-mbr/ [16:36] mbr dont mind [16:36] ty so much will check now [16:37] looks like that might be mistaken though looks like they are talking about the boot loader [16:38] aw [16:38] read here too https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Mbr [16:41] will do [16:41] even a command to copy one drives mbr to another might help [16:44] i looked here http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/Hard-Disk-Utils/MBRFix.shtml [16:44] but cant find where to download that mbrfix [16:44] goes to google adds [16:44] grrr [16:50] will have a look tomorrow on my way home now, later all [16:50] ty [16:50] go safe [16:54] got it ty magespawn [16:54] * Kilos- hates google [17:41] desperate times require desperate measures [17:41] gonna try http://tech.gaeatimes.com/index.php/archive/how-to-copy-master-boot-record-mbr-between-hard-disks/ [17:42] hope it dont kill kde [17:46] wbb [18:06] Kilos: but you said all your drives are broken [18:06] no man ians are broken [18:06] oh ya [18:07] so why you so happy about magespawn's suggestion? [18:07] because that'sexactly what I suggested [18:07] i installed 10.10 on my 160g again but still got ians 500g that i fixed months ago with kde on [18:07] ok the moving mbr thing [18:08] but they not moving niks on one drive there [18:08] ai! [18:08] did you even read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Mbr ? [18:08] thats some ou wanting to move mbr from hdd to ssd [18:09] see: Boot-Order, Bios [18:09] i want to fix ians other drive that has the corrupt mbr [18:09] he coulda changed boot drive in bios [18:09] and then "MBR Back-Up and Replacement" [18:10] oh [18:10] no man that mbr is badly corrupt [18:10] so just create a new mbr [18:10] no good backing it up and no backup to restore from [18:10] on a proper disk [18:11] i have this 500g kde that i want to copy its mbr to the bad drive [18:11] of even backup this one and restore it to the bad one [18:12] there's this thing called fixmbr [18:12] just gotta find where it backs up to [18:12] it normally comes with a windows boot disk [18:12] its a win tool [18:12] my 2 copies of xp dont see sata drives [18:12] ai! [18:13] my win7 can partition that bad drive but cant install [18:13] have you tried doing fixmbr? [18:13] i dunno why xp cant see the sata drives [18:13] fixmbr from where [18:14] you have to go the install route with xp to run fixmbr and fixboot [18:15] but here it says no hdd so dont even get there [18:15] hmm... [18:15] i wonder if boot-repair does mbr too\ [18:18] if i could get quassel to bloep at nick mentioned and not only make pling when window not in focus i wouldnt have anything but kde running [18:20] im installing boot-repair here. if i disappear it killed kde for me again [18:20] worked for ian last week though so heres hoping [18:21] ai! [18:22] Kilos: have you enabled sound for the event "Highlight when focussed"? [18:22] oh didnt know there a focussed one too [18:22] will check [18:23] ai! [18:23] nope wasnt done [18:24] talk to me lets see [18:24] Kilos: why? [18:24] Maaz: coffee on [18:24] * Maaz washes some mugs [18:24] no sound [18:24] sigh [18:25] maybe quassel needs a restart [18:25] wbb [18:25] Maaz: coffee please [18:25] inetpro: Sure [18:25] hmm... [18:28] evening all [18:28] ai! dunno why boot-repair dont install here [18:28] hi magespawn [18:28] Coffee's ready for Kilos and inetpro! [18:28] Maaz: ty [18:28] You are welcome Kilos [18:28] superfly you got a moment [18:28] hey Kilos [18:28] see inetpro no sound when focussed [18:28] Kilos: hmm.... that must be a bug [18:29] * inetpro just tested also [18:29] does yours work inetpro [18:29] Kilos: no [18:29] ai! [18:29] maybe it's not supposed to work [18:29] maybe it is a feature and not a bug [18:30] well at least we know now that it is not just Kilos [18:30] well you and the fly are kde experts [18:30] hahaha [18:31] i think the fly said his works when i first tried quassel [18:31] Kilos: well it is the first time ever that you say you want it to work while you have the window in focus [18:32] or at least first time I see that you say that [18:32] but maybe I forget [18:33] no man dodo i always leave ubuntu-za in focus so if i hear the sound while cooking i dont first have to find where i am [18:33] so just switch to another window as you leave for cooking man [18:33] it's so simple to press Alt+Tab [18:33] ai! now a restart is needed to complete the upgrade [18:33] grrr [18:35] hi smile4ever [18:35] wbb [18:36] :o [18:39] o/ [18:39] magespawn: how are you? :D [18:40] good and you smile4ever ? [18:40] too! :) [18:40] a bit busy [18:40] ;) [18:41] busy is good [18:42] hehe, yeah [18:42] learning French [18:42] :) [18:42] magespawn: what's up? [18:43] hey superfly [18:44] i was going to edit the ubuntu-za.org involved page today, and it appears i do not have a log in there, i just wanted to make sure before i crate another [18:44] s/crate/create [18:57] magespawn: uh, I'll have a look for you in about 10 minutes, need to get the eldest insect off to bed [18:59] no worries superfly no rush at all [19:05] ai! kde cant see sdb [19:05] * Kilos cries [19:19] night all. sleep tight [19:31] bye [19:31] :) [19:50] magespawn: other than your IRC nick, what other user name would you have chosen [19:50] maybe my launchpad one = geames [19:51] i did try them and my email addresses and my openid [19:54] magespawn: nope, can't find either of those [19:57] okay cool ty will make one tomorrow [20:00] let me know when you do so that I can give you the appropriate permissions on the site [20:01] will do [20:14] peedong [20:15] meh [20:15] arch FTW [20:15] (for the time being) [20:22] lol [20:41] good night all === Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za [22:45] * nlsthzn ninja's in from work after many many moons and finds the room... quiet...