[00:00] <Tm0> jamesgcd Thank you ^___^
[00:00] <iceman> why idea why it hangs and error out, when i run 'aptitude install sysinfo' ?  http://pastebin.com/m8gJvRxa
[00:01] <jamesgcd> Ikonia - would the shred tool accept the partition as a file :p?
[00:01] <iceman> i get responses when ping the the repos host.
[00:01] <ikonia> iceman: your network does not appear to be working, or the host 91.189.91.14 is down
[00:01] <ikonia> jamesgcd: normally
[00:01] <ikonia> iceman: telnet to it on port 80
[00:01] <yown> ikonia: Then why did you say "you'll need to work out the start/end block bounderies, or change working of mb/kb sizings" "if you don't set the start/end you'll end up doing the whole disk"  "dd knows nothing about partitions, so you have to set a start/stop point for dd" if I can just point it to the partition and have it do that spaceof the HDD.
[00:01] <iceman> will try
[00:02] <ikonia> yown because it doesn't
[00:02] <jamesgcd> ikonia I'm not sure upon the syntax of using shred, but if you are I'd suggest telling yown about it. It seems much more fit for purpose than DD :p
[00:02] <yown> ikonia: More specific please
[00:02] <smcguinness> i'm trying to restart HAProxy via SSH through Jenkins however the service call requires sudo
[00:02] <ikonia> jamesgcd: the whole processing of dd'ing the disk seems overkill.
[00:02] <ikonia> yown: sorry, specific about what ?
[00:02] <ikonia> yown: just dd the partition.....
[00:02] <smcguinness> is there a way to have that service restart not require sudo password
[00:03] <ikonia> yown: I doubt your data could be that important to be honest, and you'll end up making a mess of it, but just get on with dd'ing the partition
[00:03] <yown> ikonia: "because it doesn't" Because what doesn't what?
[00:03] <Guest70411> wondering if someone knows how to use github to start contributing to Mozmill
[00:03] <ikonia> yown: dd knows nothing about partitions, it's dumb
[00:03] <jakey> hi, how do I compile a program from source or do you have to read the readme each time
[00:03] <iceman> hmm... look like 91.189.91.14 is not listening on port 80
[00:03] <ikonia> iceman: there you go then
[00:03] <jamesgcd> Tm0 I'm still trying to google any fixes but it seems like something your network admin might be able to help with :). They could diagnose any issues on the schools end if there is any
[00:04] <yown> ikonia: But you said if I pointed dd to the partitions address, it will do that area of the drive and only that. Well if that is true, then it has to know something of the partition to work only on said partition
[00:05] <jakey> hi, how do I compile a program from source or do you have to read the readme each time?
[00:05] <thiebaude> !compile
[00:06] <Tm0> jamesgcd They don't. They are graduates of the program here. They don't know how to work with Linux...
[00:06] <iceman> where can i get a list of working repos for ubuntu 12.10 x64?
[00:08] <jamesgcd> Tm0 if you hide the fact its linux and have them try diagnose it, from their perspective it shouldnt make much difference since the protocols for the wifi will be the same with Linux as with Windows :p
[00:09] <mawuli_ypa> Hi, i am configuring a mail server and i mistakenly changed the ownership of /var/mail
[00:09] <mawuli_ypa> how do i revert that? I mean, who/application normally owns this directory
[00:09] <mawuli_ypa> ?
[00:11] <Tm0> jamesgcd From that point it should be working. My phone connects. My friends windows laptop does.
[00:11] <jamesgcd> mawuli_ypa: on my 12.04 server, /var/mail is owned by root and grouped by mail, with read write and execute permissions for owner group and others.
[00:11] <mawuli_ypa> ok. thanks
[00:11] <ai6pg> drwxrwsr-x   2 root mail     4096 Feb 25 07:56 mail
[00:13] <mawuli_ypa> i just made the changes
[00:13] <yown> jamesgcd: I have also heard of shred, but I guess that does more data obliterating then I need/too time intensive
[00:13] <jamesgcd> yown theres no difference between writing with DD or shred assuming you set shred to only run once
[00:14] <jamesgcd> yown I suppose you could use DD to set a trillion nyan cat gifs on the partition instead of random data, but in terms of write time, they'll achieve the same results
[00:15] <Tm0> jamesgcd Thanks for your help. I guess ima just gonna have to dual boot until I can get it working.
[00:15] <jamesgcd> That awkward moment when you find useful information JUST as they leave the chat
[00:16] <yown> jamesgcd: I understand shred does 3 passes, and writes random data stuff rather the just 0's
[00:16] <yown> which is going to take longer
[00:16] <puff> Several times over the past couple of hours my computer has played a tone.  It sounds similar to the tone I hear in empathy when somebody talks at me, or from facebook chat. However, empathy (which was running) doesn't show anybody trying to chat with me, and I don't have a facebook window open.  Is there anywhere I can look to see what caused the tone?
[00:17] <jakey> which  java run-time and compiler should i use
[00:17] <jamesgcd> yown from what I heard it did 25, but there is a setting which lets you configure it to whatever you want. Additionally, whether it writes a 1 or writes a 0 is irrelevant, they take the same amount of time to write
[00:18] <yown> jamesgcd: I mean it writes manuals and stuff in there, data with a pattern, and not just fill
[00:19] <yown> jamesgcd: Anyway, so shred has no problem seeing partitions?
[00:19] <SonikkuAmerica> Hi! Ubuntu64 12.04.2 LTS. When I [ sudo apt-get install gnome-panel cairo-dock ], it replaces my xserver-xorg-all-lts package with xserver-xorg-qxl. Is that correct?
[00:20] <jamesgcd> yown its easy to tell youve specially cleared something with specialist tools whether or not you use random data or otherwise so if thats your concern it wouldnt matter either way. and I believe so but I've never used it myself, I'd recommend just typing "man shred" in the terminal, if its not installed, type sudo apt-get install shred && man shred
[00:20] <yown> jamesgcd: These man files are not written for the likes of me, no good
[00:21] <yown> man files skimp on information you need, and what information they do have is usually put in too technical a way to be understood
[00:22] <jamesgcd> sudo shred --iterations=1 --zero [/dev/whateverpartition] should do it
[00:23] <yown> jamesgcd: but ikonia was saying dd didn't see partitions, that I could risk having my whole drive over written, is that not the case with shred then?
[00:23] <SonikkuAmerica> Excuse my lack of !patience: Hi! Ubuntu64 12.04.2 LTS. When I [ sudo apt-get install gnome-panel cairo-dock ], it replaces my xserver-xorg-all-lts package with xserver-xorg-qxl. Is that correct?
[00:24] <jamesgcd> yown: shred is designed to just delete a single file. My assumption is that it'll work since to its eyes /dev/partitionofdoom will appear as a single file. I could be wrong, but seeing as it'd delete everything anyway theres no real risk unless you typoed and accidentally hit the wrong partition with the command
[00:26] <jamesgcd> yown: I'd actually recommend just clearing the entire HD and reinstalling everything if youre this concerned about people recovering the data. If you've ever resized the partition at any point there'll be an extra copy of some files outside the resized partition which could be tracked. If you ESPECIALLY serious. After doing that, hit the harddrive with an hammer and use explosives on it
[00:26] <yown> jamesgcd: what I am worried about thanks to ikonia  is, whether it will exceed the partition parameters and delete the whole drive or something (or anywhere outside of the partition)
[00:27] <yown> jamesgcd: Well most of my HDD has never been used/totally unpartitioned, no reason to waste time writting over on that too
[00:28] <jamesgcd> yown: if most of its never been used, for simplicities sake I'd recommend backing up any data and using DD on the entire drive itself.
[00:28] <yown> jamesgcd: How would that be any simplier? And what would be the point? I would just be using ALOT more time
[00:29] <yown> for no apparent reason
[00:29] <yown> jamesgcd: So you are unsure whether shred would exceed the partition parameters, or not?
[00:29] <jamesgcd> yown: its simpler because you can guarantee then without any error that EVERY bit has been scrambled. The point is security, youre making a direct tradeoff between time and security here, I could say theres a 99% chance of the data being securely gone and you could take the 1% risk. But if that backfires its your problem
[00:30] <jamesgcd> yown: and yeah, I would assume it wouldn't but theres no guarantees, I've never had data so sensitive I've needed to have it completely removed
[00:30] <dhci> hi. not really going to use mongodb anymore I don't think but is there a simple way to get the mongo shell going? the server installed ok to default ports 27017 and 28017 responding, but mongo command dies on shell/mongo.js when connecting to test
[00:31] <yown> jamesgcd: Partitions always use the same physical section of a drive, right? So what would be the point of writing to a section of the drive that has never been used?
[00:32] <jamesgcd> yown: security. I know I'm being vague but if the data is sensitive enough to be securely removed, its worth doing properly. Any form of cache could blow in your face for example, if you had a picture you needed removing, and some photo viewer on a different partition had generated a thumbnail, that thumbnail wouldnt be securely removed
[00:33] <yown> jamesgcd: Please answer my question about physical drive and partitions
[00:33] <jamesgcd> yown: assuming the partition is never resized or moved from the point where you start writing data on it, any data would not be able to be moved out the area on the disk the partition covers.
[00:33] <dhci> yown there are fancy partition schemes like linux volume manager where the partitions aren't so sequentially clear cut
[00:34] <yown> jamesgcd: Right, and I can be sure of that
[00:34] <yown> dhci you mean where partitions can change what part of the physical drive they cover?
[00:34] <jamesgcd> yown: pretty much. What you cant be sure of is with caching, indexing, and essentially anything.
[00:35] <yown> jamesgcd: Linux will cache or index parts of the physical drive unclaimed by partition sometimes?
[00:36] <yown> by moving where the partition is on the physical drive automatically?
[00:36] <jamesgcd> yown: never, I believe dhci meant that Linux can cache individual files on the partition in places other than where the datas stored. it wouldnt be a problem if you scrambled the entire partition though.
[00:36] <dhci> yes I don't know if the linux volume manager or similar tools take into consideration the drive density and platter count, or related constellation of parameters. you could probably make good use of the controller and drives if you drilled down to specifics
[00:37] <Nicolas_Leonidas> hi, My ISP brought me a new modem, as soon as Ubuntu starts to load the ethernet port on modem stops blinking, and then ubuntu loads without network access
[00:37] <jamesgcd> oh yown, I am assuming youre not using Linux Volume Manager, I'm not experienced with it and its not common in most situations, but dhci probably would give better advice if you are
[00:37] <dhci> anyhow still plugging away at mongodb but going to work on a node.js installation first
[00:38] <Shape> Hello, I would like to reinstall Ubuntu but I want to keep my programs and settings for those programs, i.e. firefox settings. I would also like to keep my desktop settings (i.e. size of the taskbar) There are lots of links with confusing information and I don't know how to go about it because they dont tell you exactly what you will keep.
[00:38] <jamesgcd> yown: eek, called it linux volume manager, we mean the linux LOGICAL volume manager :p
[00:39] <jamesgcd> Shape: in most cases if you create a backup of the home folder and paste it into an install with the same installed programs, the programs will retain the same settings unless you changed the setting system wide
[00:39] <Ntemis> hi
[00:39] <Ntemis> i need your help
[00:40] <RiXtEr> !ask | Ntemis
[00:40] <yown> jamesgcd: Is LVM ever default in ubuntu? Or something you would have to choose to install?
[00:40] <Ntemis> i want to run an*.scexe firmware update on my ubuntu server
[00:40] <jamesgcd> yown: theres a button to choose it if you want it. its not default though
[00:40] <Shape> jamesgcd: I keep seeing this command: dpkg --get-selections >~myprograms.txt and then after reinstall dpkg --set-selections <~myprograms.txt
[00:40] <Shape> apt-get -u dselect-upgrade What will this do?
[00:40] <Ntemis> but is only compatible with redhat and suse?
[00:41] <Ntemis> http://ftp.hp.com/pub/softlib2/software1/sc-linux-fw/p649739856/v77252/CP017428.txt
[00:41] <Ntemis> any help priciated
[00:41] <yown>  jamesgcd well then I probably do not, which means there is no reason to write over anything other then the partition I wish to perma delete, right?
[00:41] <jamesgcd> Shape: I'm not sure, I think though that'll make a list of all installed programs and after you reinstall and run the second command it'll read the list and install them individually. Could be wrong though
[00:42] <jamesgcd> yown: sure, unless you've at any point ever run an operating system on it.
[00:43] <Shape> jamesgcd how can I find out for sure? That looks really helpful. Is there an alternative to that? Because it would seem spot-on. You reinstall the programs, then you just copy the home folder over.
[00:43] <sarsaeol> Ntemis: it may not work, but you can try converting the rpm to deb with alien
[00:43] <Arisen> hi all, i have just installed xubuntu on my macbook, i can't access the home file of the mac hard drive through ubuntu
[00:43] <Arisen> anyone can help ?
[00:43] <Ntemis> is states is not rpm
[00:44] <Ntemis> is like rpm+scripts?
[00:44] <jamesgcd> Shape: You could google the command. I think Linux Mint has some software which essentially does the same thing (list all installed software and then redownload it afterwards) and it should work in Ubuntu. Im unsure of the actual name though - if it did do that though and you copied the home folder over afterwards, then 99% of programs would retain all the same settings
[00:44] <Shape> jamesgcd Thanks!
[00:45] <sarsaeol> Ntemis: so alien says it is not a proper rpm?
[00:45] <sarsaeol> or you dont have the rpm
[00:45] <Ntemis> didnt installalien
[00:46] <Arisen> german installation ?
[00:46] <sarsaeol> okay, it may be your only hope for this particular utility, and is probably worth a shot. but it really may not work
[00:47] <Arisen> if i set chmod -R 777 to my macosx home folder, is there anything insecure about it for outer connection ? (reason : i want to access them from ubuntu which is also installed on the same macbook-machine)
[00:48] <sarsaeol> Arisen: just means any user connected to computer will have full access to everything in your users folder…. including guests
[00:48] <jamesgcd> Arisen: its insecure since anyone who can log into your computer could access that folder without an issue. If you had a seperate account on your Osx installation for example, they could browse, edit, delete files with no problem
[00:48] <sarsaeol> as insecure as it gets ;)
[00:49] <Arisen> lol i c , any other solutions ?
[00:49] <Arisen> 120gb : osx , 60gb :  ubuntu, trying to to access macosx home after booting from ubuntu
[00:49] <Smirnov> my desktop is really slow, top is showing i only have 1gb of ram free. how do I have top combine all processes under the same name to figure out where all the ram went?
[00:49] <yown> jamesgcd: What does running a OS on it have to do with it?
[00:50] <sarsaeol> Arisen: you can't access them even through the root acct?
[00:50] <Arisen> no
[00:50] <Arisen> with sudo u mean ?
[00:50] <sarsaeol> ya
[00:50] <Arisen> nop
[00:50] <sarsaeol> and the partition is mounted with rw?
[00:51] <Arisen> its guid
[00:51] <jamesgcd> yown: imagine it like this, I'm breaking into windows for simplicities sake here: I have Windows on C:\. I have Info on D:\. Windows which is on C:\ will automatically analyse files in D:\ and index them, now even if I delete everything on D:\ securely, C:\ Still has indexed references to those files
[00:51] <Arisen> lemme chk
[00:51] <Arisen> it's a ms-dos
[00:52] <yown> jamesgcd: I know what you mean, but that isn't the OS breaking out of its partitioned physical location on the drive
[00:52] <Arisen> u mean the partition of ubuntu
[00:52] <Arisen> ?
[00:52] <Arisen> swap or the osx ?
[00:52] <jamesgcd> yown:it isnt but from a security perspective if youre not deleting EVERY trace you may as well not delete any of them. If someone badly wanted to steal this info, they easily could
[00:52] <sarsaeol> no i meant the osx partition, and if its mounted as read-only
[00:53] <yown> I guess so, I mean if you partition, that partition always only writes to that specific part of the physical drive, right?
[00:53] <Arisen> read/write
[00:53] <Arisen> :)
[00:53] <Ntemis> sarsaeol: http://lpig.wordpress.com/2009/08/19/updating-hp-p400-sas-raid-card-firmware-via-linux/
[00:53] <yown> Arisen: That is a yes then?
[00:53] <Ntemis> am on ubuntu server 64bit 12.04.2
[00:53] <jamesgcd> yown: yeah. But its hard to see if its been copied to another partition without you noticing since OS's and programs will read information from pretty much anything and leave trails everywhere
[00:53] <Arisen> yes
[00:53] <Arisen> it is a yes ^^
[00:54] <yown> jamesgcd but it can't write to unpartitioned space, nor will it change partition size or location on its own, right?
[00:54] <jamesgcd> yown: the security issue youre combatting as well requires them to have the hardware in the first place. They'd have all the time in the world to search for a single mistake you could make. And no, it can't.
[00:55] <sarsaeol> Ntemis: so the solution was to install the stdc++ libraries?
[00:55] <sarsaeol> cool
[00:55] <Ntemis> it seems so
[00:55] <sarsaeol> tmyk =]
[00:55] <crazyhorse> Hi, I need a command line tool that i can use to analyse what's using up all the disk space.. something with a tree would be nice.. any suggestions?
[00:56] <Ntemis> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libstdc%2B%2B
[00:56] <Ntemis> what is the command so ubuntu get the right one?
[00:56] <Ntemis> sudo apt-get install stdc?
[00:57] <Arisen> town : brw-r-----  1 root    operator    1,   2 Feb 25 17:46 disk0s2 drive info
[00:57] <sarsaeol> or you could aptitude search for it
[00:57] <sarsaeol> see whats avail in repos
[00:57] <Ntemis> ok thanks
[00:57] <Arisen> ytown*** brw-r-----  1 root    operator    1,   2 Feb 25 17:46 disk0s2 drive info
[00:57] <Arisen> yown omfg
[00:58] <Arisen> well let me reboot from ubuntu , be back town
[00:58] <yown> jamesgcd: Anyway we got off issue. Can we please get back to determining exact partition address for the purposes of shred?
[00:59] <jamesgcd> yown: you'll have to do that yourself. I dont know which partition the data is on. All I can tell you is /dev/sda refers to the ENTIRE disk, and /dev/sda1 the first partition on the disk, /dev/sda2 the second, and so on
[01:00] <yown> jamesgcd: What command do I use to determine that myself/how do I?
[01:01] <jamesgcd> yown: probably easiest to do graphically. Run the command sudo apt-get install gparted - and then use gparted to look at your partitions
[01:02] <yown> jamesgcd: the address listed under partition, right?
[01:03] <rus> hii
[01:03] <jamesgcd> yown: I didnt quite get that, care to rephrase :p?
[01:04] <arisen> yown
[01:05] <yown> jamesgcd: In gparted, there is a listing, under the partition listing, is that the address? Please load gparted and see what I mean
[01:05] <mussa> مرحبا
[01:05] <jamesgcd> yown: Sorry I can't, I'm not able to boot up into a linux distro atm :/. I'm sure someone else here will be able to help you :p
[01:06] <yown> one moment and I will screenshot it
[01:06] <kalenjohnson> the address? you mean to mount it?
[01:07] <mussa> هاي
[01:07] <yown> yes or to shred it kalenjohnson
[01:07] <yown> the address necessary to point programs to it
[01:07] <Ntemis> sarsaeol: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-firmware/+bug/969304/comments/28
[01:07] <kalenjohnson> yown, yes that should be it
[01:09] <mussa> يا شباب مساعدة لو سمحتو
[01:10] <wooo> what is device name for usb in ubuntu? Is it /dev/sdb1 or /dev/sdb?
[01:11] <wooo> help please
[01:11] <jamesgcd> wooo: sdb would refer to the USB itself. sdb1 would refer to the first partition on the USB
[01:12] <baumy> I'm running ubuntu server. I have 3 monitors, 1 on integrated graphics and 2 on an nvidia card. I have nouveau removed and nvidia drivers installed. Originally, my bios started everything on the integrated screen, and that's where the cli showed up. When I set my bios to start on the PCI screen, the monitor turns on but I don't see the login prompt. how do i tell ubuntu which monitor to start on at next boot?
[01:12] <yown> wooo look it up in gparted under partition
[01:13] <yown> I guess it can vary, so make sure directly
[01:15] <gmachine_24> wooo, if you open a terminal and type $fdisk -l  ..... without the dots, that will list all your drives and partitions; otherwise, the usb drives [partitions] are usually listed under /media
[01:15] <gmachine_24> woooo, sorry, that's $sudo fdisk -l
[01:15] <gmachine_24> with -l being the letter L
[01:15] <gmachine_24> lower case
[01:16] <histo> gmachine_24: you can also use lsblk
[01:16] <mussa> كيف بدي فوت عالخاص
[01:17] <gmachine_24> histo does that not list the blk ids?
[01:17] <Pici> !sa | mussa
[01:17] <gmachine_24> darn, wanted to practice being lawrence of arabia.
[01:17] <histo> gmachine_24: lists all your block devices... and partitions also where they are mounted etc... much nicer output and you don't need sudo.  You are thinking of blkid that's lists the block ids
[01:18] <histo> Pici: How did you recognize that language?
[01:18] <gmachine_24> histo, correct
[01:18] <gmachine_24> gotcha
[01:18] <Pici> histo: I have unicode enabled?
[01:18] <gmachine_24> histo: cut and paste in google translate?
[01:18] <gmachine_24> that's what I always do
[01:19] <arisen> mussa : sho badak ?
[01:19] <histo> Pici: I can see the language also but I don't know how everyone in here recognizes every damn language
[01:19] <gmachine_24> histo: ha. funny. they should be working for the state department........ wait. maybe they are.
[01:21] <mussa> لو سمحتو اجتني رسالة عالخاص شلون فيني شوفا
[01:21] <nearst> !en | mussa
[01:22] <franl> Hmm.  Google Translate is not doing a good job at translating that to English.
[01:22] <gmachine_24> so I need to install the ssh-server on a computer where I have my music stored; it's for an internet radio station (don't worry, I am not promoting); I am running 12.04 on that computer - and I had installed ssh so I could log in via other computers. Adding ssh-server . . . will that change the basic abilities of the computer? I sthere a simple 'how-to' for this? Thanks.
[01:22] <arisen> YA OSTAZ MUSSA !!! ekteb /query esmelsha5s : example : /query arisen
[01:23] <mussa> المشكلة ما شفت اسمو
[01:23] <Corey> !ar | mussa
[01:23] <Corey> Hmm.
[01:23] <Corey> WHoops.
[01:23] <Corey> :-)
[01:23] <FloodBot1> Corey: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:23] <arisen> ho ho .. sho fe 3ndak ? mac / win / linux ?
[01:23] <Corey> FloodBot1: Oh hush, you.
[01:23] <k1l> mussa: you were told often to stick to the rules. last warning
[01:23] <nearst> huhu
[01:24] <k1l> !guidelines > mussa
[01:24] <dakotawulfy> hi
[01:24] <tonsofpcs> hi hi
[01:24] <arisen> mussa, what operating system are you using ? (please stop writing in arabic)
[01:24] <mussa> linux
[01:24] <mussa> ok
[01:24] <c2tarun> Can anyone please help me what is the advantage or mounting a separate partition on /var?
[01:24] <arisen> so you are on XChat i assume ?
[01:25] <gmachine_24> according to google translate,  =Problem shaft Asmo المشكلة ما شفت اسمو
[01:25] <gmachine_24> c2tarun, a separate partition for your home files or what?
[01:25] <arisen> You are using linux and aint be able to write in english ?
[01:25] <k1l> arisen: he is trolling
[01:25] <k1l> arisen: dont mind hiim
[01:25] <gmachine_24> c2tarun, nm. sorry. I'm still asleep.
[01:25] <nearst> c2tarun, usually /var is for log and cache.
[01:25] <mussa> arisen
[01:26] <mussa> am new user
[01:26] <mussa> ok
[01:26] <c2tarun> nearst, log and cache, so if I am hopping from one distro to another, it may save my bandwidth of installing packages each and every time?
[01:26] <arisen> no problem, yakhe .. look on the left side under the channels, could you see the name arisen for example ? click on it (i msged you)
[01:26] <nearst> mussa, np, im new user also.
[01:26] <mussa> ok
[01:27] <mussa> can u help me
[01:27] <arisen> mussa , write : /query arisen
[01:27] <Shape> Hello, will these commands before reinstall: dpkg --get-selections > myprograms.txt and after install dpkg --set-selections < myprograms.txt Will actually help me get all my programs back that fast??
[01:27] <gmachine_24> wow
[01:28] <nearst> c2tarun, distro have diff package and format as well. save bandwidth is not related option here
[01:28] <tripelb> Looking for the community discussing - Ubuntu on the Nexus 7. Any clues where it is?
[01:28] <mussa> query arisen
[01:28] <arisen> mussa , with the sign / <----
[01:28] <arisen> write /query arisen
[01:28] <k1l> tripelb: discussion is on #ubuntu-discuss , technical support is on #ubuntu-touch
[01:29] <nearst> !phone | tripelb
[01:29] <rocky> i'm using Ubuntu 12.04, please provide me a link so that i can install mac theme in here
[01:30] <c2tarun> rocky, try googling, gnome-look.org
[01:31] <rocky> c2tarun, ok
[01:34] <MeiSign> Hi, I have a problem with the driver installation of my wifi realtek adapter, appreciate help with it very much: http://askubuntu.com/questions/260991/rtl8188ce-wifi-adapter-is-not-detected-after-installing-newest-realtek-driver
[01:34] <rachi> have any of you guys had UEFI problems?
[01:34] <AdamOutler> hi.  I'm trying to build a Ubuntu Touch app, but I'm missing "Applications" from QT.    Anyone heard of this?
[01:35] <AdamOutler>  I'm missing "Create New >Applications" from QT.    Is there a fix for this?
[01:35] <mobodo> anyone had trouble upgrading to 12.10 getting a black after upgrade?
[01:35] <histo> AdamOutler: You may want to try a dev channel or #ubuntu-phone
[01:36] <darkhelmet46> hey guys, can anyone help me with installing/configuring Grub?
[01:36] <histo> !grub2 | darkhelmet46
[01:36] <histo> !nomodeset | mobodo
[01:36] <yown> What command can I use to get shred to write over once with 0's?
[01:37] <yown> It was given to me before, but I can't seem to locate it in chat history
[01:37] <darkhelmet46> Thanks, histo I tried that, no-go.  Need more help.  I did already try Googling.  :)
[01:37] <darkhelmet46> Came here as a last resort.
[01:39] <Shape> Hello, will these commands before reinstall: dpkg --get-selections > myprograms.txt and after install dpkg --set-selections < myprograms.txt Will actually help me get all my programs back that fast??
[01:40] <darkhelmet46> So, can anyone give me a hand with Grub?
[01:41] <arisen> how to get channels list on irc ?
[01:41] <k1l> !alis | arisen
[01:41] <dakotawulfy> Shape yes but will take awhile to d/l them off the net and hopefully it works right seen it mess up before and make the system bad
[01:41] <yown> What command can I use to get shred to write over once with 0's?
[01:42] <Shape> dakotawulfy Why would it make the system bad?
[01:42] <k1l> yown: "man shred" didnt tell you?
[01:42] <COLORS> Hello everyone! :D
[01:42] <dakotawulfy> had done it one time
[01:42] <k1l> yown: btw: why do you want to shred /dd the partition?
[01:42] <COLORS> Does anyone need help?
[01:43] <yown> k1l: Of course, man is useless. And I want to shred because I understand dd is more risky
[01:43] <yown> That it doesn't understand partitions or something
[01:44] <dakotawulfy> shape something was not compatible and it un installed  the core
[01:44] <mobodo> histo: thanks… now it gets stuck on the loading screen :-/
[01:44] <dakotawulfy> had t hat happen one time
[01:44] <k1l> yown: why is man useless?
[01:44] <Shape> dakotawulfy: the reason is I want to reinstall ubuntu and i heard doing that then copy paste the home folder over is the best way to keep settings, is that right?
[01:45] <yown> Because it lacks lots of information, and the information it doesn't lack, is put in too technical of terms
[01:45] <mobodo> sigh, every single upgrade - 10 minutes to install, 10 hours to fix :(
[01:45] <k1l> yown: cmon :/
[01:45] <k1l> give it 30sec. to read. you will find yout what you want very quickly
[01:45] <COLORS> yown: Try "shred --help"
[01:45] <dakotawulfy> yea that works
[01:46] <dakotawulfy> shape are u using same  version???
[01:46] <darkhelmet46> root@this:/home/this# grub-install /dev/sda2
[01:46] <darkhelmet46> Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.
[01:46] <darkhelmet46> Help?  :)
[01:46] <COLORS> !enter darkhelmet46
[01:46] <Shape> dakotawulfy: Same version for Ubuntu? No, I upgraded to 12.10 and want to downgrade back to 12.04
[01:46] <dakotawulfy>  darkhelmet46
[01:46] <yown> I don't note much of a difference between shred help and man
[01:47] <tbic> how do i remove  a package (like nginx) and all the dependancies that are not used by other packages?
[01:47] <dakotawulfy>  there is a cool boot repair tool out there  seems to work good
[01:47] <mussa_> any arabick her?
[01:47] <k1l> yown: you dont want to tell me, that you are not able to understand what -n and -z means? i think you are just too lazy to read it anyway
[01:47] <darkhelmet46> Can I explain a little more about my situation?
[01:48] <yown> K1l Well in this example its not as unclear as others, but I don't know how I am suppose to combine them
[01:48] <darkhelmet46> I installed Ubuntu using Wubi.  I then used this to try to migrate it to a partition: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MigrateWubi
[01:48] <darkhelmet46> But it failed on installing Grub
[01:48] <darkhelmet46> But after copying everything
[01:49] <darkhelmet46> So in theory, I have a working Ubuntu install sitting on sda2, I just can't boot to it.
[01:49] <Shape> dakotawulfy: Why were you asking which version?
[01:49] <yown> With the n option, do you just put n# where n is the number you want k1l ?
[01:49] <dakotawulfy>  darkhelmet46 check out  the boot-repair gui tool
[01:49] <dakotawulfy> probley work for u
[01:50] <darkhelmet46> apt-cache search boot-repair returns no resultys
[01:50] <darkhelmet46> results*
[01:50] <dakotawulfy>  i copy a live cd to a hard drive then ran it it did work
[01:51] <dakotawulfy> darkhelmet46: https://launchpad.net/boot-repair
[01:51] <k1l> yown:  if n = 0 there will only be the last run with the z command
[01:51] <yown> With the n option, do you just put n# where n is the number you want k1l ?
[01:52] <dakotawulfy> think u can run from live cd if u have enought ram to install it from live cd or dvd
[01:52] <k1l> yown: cmon. its just reading 4 lines in the man and thinking of 5 sec.
[01:52] <darkhelmet46> Thanks, dakota, I think I tried this already.  I'll give it another go.  I am running off a Live USB right now.
[01:52] <k1l> yown: read what -n and what -z does
[01:52] <dakotawulfy> darkhelmet46: should work
[01:52] <yown> k1l: Do I put n=0? or n0?
[01:53] <k1l> yown: -nz 0
[01:54] <dakotawulfy> darkhelmet46: n/p hope it works for u
[01:54] <yown> k1l: So "shred -ncv 0 address/to/partition" a valid command?
[01:54] <darkhelmet46> thanks, will let you know
[01:55] <dakotawulfy> ok
[01:55] <k1l> yown: yes
[01:55] <yown> thanks
[01:55] <k1l> yown: so that was not rocket sience, was it?
[01:55] <yown> You were right, it was linux science
[01:56] <bcbc2> darkhelmet46: what was the error
[01:56] <xxiao> is it possible to get etckeeper work as non-root, i.e. make an etc clone somewhere
[01:56] <darkhelmet46> bcbc2, which error?  lol
[01:57] <bcbc2> darkhelmet46: you said it failed installing grub
[01:57] <darkhelmet46> oh, right...  i have the error saved to my desktop, but i am booted from live USB so I can't pull that up right now.  :(
[01:57] <nearst> *gonna play runescape
[01:58] <wolftune> Question: I'm helping a student get started with GNU/Linux, I figured out using Jitsi for screen-sharing (I didn't get it to work with Empathy in the past and my system is KDE)
[01:58] <wolftune> so I didn't want to go with Empathy
[01:58] <bcbc2> darkhelmet46: you should be able to test the migration by booting the wubi install and running: sudo update-grub
[01:58] <wolftune> but here's the trouble
[01:58] <wolftune> most times no problem installing Jitsi from .deb
[01:58] <bcbc2> darkhelmet46: that will add an entry to the migrated install at the bottom of the grub menu. Then you can test it
[01:58] <wolftune> but this case, some error comes up and it just says it won't install the .deb on his computer
[01:59] <bcbc2> darkhelmet46: if it's working fine you can just install the grub bootloader with: sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[01:59] <darkhelmet46> bcdc2, i can try that, but this is what has me confused.  Wubi seems to use the Windows boot menu, not Grub, so I don't think Grub was ever isntalled in the first place?  Unless I am confused...
[01:59] <bcbc2> darkhelmet46: no wubi uses grub2 as well
[01:59] <Hpubuntu> can someone help me get my wireless working?   ralink 3290
[02:00] <bcbc2> darkhelmet46: it boots it via windows and grub4dos, but its still grub2 that actually boots the wubi install
[02:00] <yown> Does startup disk creater partition/formate your usb for you?
[02:00] <YokoBR> guys, please, my laptop is burning
[02:00] <YokoBR> the fan is on slow mode..
[02:01] <bcbc2> darkhelmet46: but I'd recommend checking the error (should be in /var/log/syslog still) and see why it failed.
[02:02] <darkhelmet46> bcbc2, when I do grub-install /dev/sda I get this: Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.
[02:02] <bcbc2> darkhelmet46: don't run it from the live cd. you need to boot the migrated install first
[02:02] <darkhelmet46> All I remember about the Wubi migration error is something about an LDM blocker
[02:03] <bcbc2> darkhelmet46: ah ok... hold on there's a bug report for that. give me a sec
[02:03] <darkhelmet46> thanks dude
[02:03] <b0t> #Security
[02:04] <darkhelmet46> dakotawulfy, I tried the boot-repair GUI, chose Recommended Repair, but it somehow detected my Wubi install and attempted to repair it...
[02:05] <Rarrikins> Are there filesystems for writing to WORM media like CD-Rs, or is this done with specialized programs?
[02:06] <genii-around> iso9660, udf
[02:06] <bcbc2> darkhelmet46: there's bug 1061255
[02:06] <darkhelmet46> bcbc2, no fix?
[02:07] <bcbc2> darkhelmet46: just make sure you're not actually using dynamic drives (in windows) because they're not supported. If you're not using them, then there are some workarounds mentioned on that bug report
[02:07] <darkhelmet46> no, not using dynamic drives, let me give it a read.  thanks bcbc2
[02:07] <MeiSign> Hi, I have a problem with the driver installation of my wifi realtek adapter, appreciate help with it very much: http://askubuntu.com/questions/260991/rtl8188ce-wifi-adapter-is-not-detected-after-installing-newest-realtek-driver
[02:08] <genii-around> Rarrikins: wodim/cdrecord etc all decide usually which fs to use depending on the media you are using
[02:08] <bcbc2> darkhelmet46: some of them are a bit risky. I wouldn't advise using dd to zero out the ldm backup
[02:08] <bcbc2> darkhelmet46: np
[02:08] <darkhelmet46> bcbc2, yeah i just read that, i wouldn't either.  ha
[02:09] <darkhelmet46> I think i found this the other day, actually.  This looks familiar, and is the same tool dakotawulfy told me to try, but I had problems with it:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[02:10] <bcbc2> darkhelmet46: the workaround with boot-repair is to install grub-legacy. I'm not sure I'd recommend that either. You could always use easyBCD to boot the migrated install via Windows
[02:10] <darkhelmet46> bcb2, i tried that too!
[02:10] <darkhelmet46> not getting anywhere at all
[02:11] <BruceIOS> Hi, i am have a problem with the NODE path, node -v does not work and when i try to install a program it says the path is not found
[02:12] <darkhelmet46> bcbc2, if you think you can help and you have the time, i will gladly get XChat installed on another computer so I can work through reboots with you.
[02:12] <crazyhorse> how do i get a list of files in the current directory that don't start with ABC
[02:13] <Lazik> ls
[02:13] <YokoBR> thank you guys. I think my laptop will melt on my desk
[02:13] <bcbc2> darkhelmet46: sure. I'll be around for a while
[02:13] <crazyhorse> Lazik: ls what?
[02:13] <dakotawulfy> YokoBR what laptop u have
[02:14] <YokoBR> dakotawlfy, hp g42
[02:14] <darkhelmet46> bcbc2, thaks much appreciated.  i'll buy you a virtual beer!  :)  i just tried something, so i'm gonna reboot and also get that other PC online.  bbiab.
[02:14] <dakotawulfy> they do have tool out there to manually control the fan speeds
[02:15] <darkhelmet46> oh, wait, Boot Repair is still applying changes.
[02:15] <crazyhorse> find . -regex '^ABC' -prune -o -print  << *BAM*
[02:15] <genii-around> !info thinkfan
[02:15] <bcbc2> darkhelmet46: what's the boot repair pastebin address. That will help see what's up
[02:16] <darkhelmet46> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5566575/
[02:16] <escott> crazyhorse, ls !(ABC)
[02:17] <crazyhorse> escott: :O
[02:17] <paul_> hi
[02:17] <crazyhorse> awesome :0
[02:17] <OY1R> can i use my iphone as a mouse in ubuntu ?
[02:18] <paul_> could I ask about a lexmark printer using lucid lynx 10.04?
[02:18] <paul_> the model number is x5070
[02:18] <darkhelmet46> oy1r, you can use your iphone as a paperweight in ubuntu.  :P  sorry, not helpful i know.  lol
[02:18] <OY1R> hehe
[02:19] <paul_> ok thank bye!
[02:19] <dakotawulfy> OY1R maybe bluetooth
[02:19] <OY1R> i already have a paper weight, some Windows cds! :P
[02:19] <OY1R> dakotawulfy, that's what i was thinking about.
[02:19] <darkhelmet46> bcbc2, still with me bro?  Boot Repair finished and it says something scary:  "LDM-blocker detected. This will delete the 6th sector of sda. Do you want to continue?"
[02:20] <crazyhorse> hmmm how can i pipe ls $(ABC)  to rm to remove the files?
[02:20] <escott> OY1R, there is an android app that does that, not sure there is one for ios
[02:20] <escott> crazyhorse, in that case use find blah blah -delete
[02:20] <Church> crazyhorse: use xargs. or cycle.
[02:20] <Church> or find. :)
[02:20] <crazyhorse> what about rm $(ls !(ABC))
[02:21] <escott> crazyhorse, never pipe to rm, and the guys in #bash will really get on your case about xargs
[02:21] <crazyhorse> ok
[02:21] <escott> crazyhorse, very dangerous
[02:21] <crazyhorse> what about the command above?
[02:21] <Church> for i in $(ls abc);do rm "$i";done    or    find . abc -exec rm {} \;      or ls abc | xargs rm
[02:21] <escott> crazyhorse, if you are confident that the filenames are sane and dont have spaces you can probably safely pipe to rm, but find blah blah -delete is the best way
[02:22] <crazyhorse> escott: ah yes.. also i can recheck by running find . -regex '.*query.*' -prune -o -print
[02:22] <escott> crazyhorse, exactly
[02:22] <crazyhorse> precheck*
[02:22] <Church> -delete doesn't sound too portable though
[02:23] <escott> Church, portable?
[02:23] <escott> Church, why is that a concern
[02:23] <BruceIOS> Hi, i am have a problem with the NODE path, node -v does not work and when i try to install a program it says the path is not found
[02:23] <crazyhorse> is it particularly difficult to install ubuntu on a macbook pro
[02:23] <escott> !macbook
[02:23] <Church> escott: i have to deal with solars/hpux/aix alongside linux on daily basis
[02:23] <crazyhorse> i'd prefer to have a completely homgonous development/server/personal OS
[02:24] <escott> Church, well thats your pain not crazyhorse's
[02:24] <crazyhorse> nothing i do in OSX is particularly essential
[02:24] <crazyhorse> software wise.. except maybe iOS development stuff
[02:24] <crazyhorse> oh.. maybe itunes
[02:24] <bcbc2> darkhelmet46: I'm here. I guess it depends what your trust level is for boot-repair ;)
[02:24] <escott> crazyhorse, you should keep the OSX install and just install alongside with bootcamp
[02:25] <shroomduke> hello hello ello llo lo o o o
[02:25] <crazyhorse> escott: yeah and use it as a secondary OS
[02:26] <escott> crazyhorse, it is also the only thing you can be certain knows 100% how to talk to the hardware
[02:26] <crazyhorse> right
[02:26] <crazyhorse> ah also.. i suppose if i need to test some stuff in OSX i'll still need it
[02:27] <darkhelmet46> bcbc2, you should know better than to trust a strange computer!  wait, that was r2d2.
[02:29] <guang> after i mount a file on /mnt/iso,how to make the directory /mnt/iso writeable?
[02:29] <shroomduke> My wireless stopped working with "activation of network failed", ...it worked fine until one day... I think I checked everything
[02:30] <guma> is /etc/network/interfaces a proper place to add static routes? between reboots?
[02:30] <bcbc2> darkhelmet46: :) boot-repair moves quickly. That can be a good and a bad thing.
[02:32] <darkhelmet46> bcbc2, i don't have a full image backup of this thing, so i am clicking No.
[02:32] <darkhelmet46> bcbc2, did that pastebin help out at all?
[02:33] <baumy> booting ubuntu server gives me a blank screen after installing nvidia drivers, the login prompt flashes on screen for a second when i login then disappears. if i boot into recovery mode, i can login and startx, and my dual monitor setup is automatically detected and configured properly. how do i make this happen during regular boot?
[02:34] <baumy> basically, recovery mode works perfectly, normal does not, pretty sure the login prompt is being displayed offscreen somehow, or something like that
[02:35] <bcbc2> darkhelmet46: it looks okay. no 'sfs' partitions.
[02:35]  * darkhelmet46_net waves
[02:36] <darkhelmet46_net> Ok, gonna reboot, wish me luck.
[02:36] <rhughes> hey whats up guys
[02:36] <bcbc2> darkhelmet46: you should be able to boot the migrated install from the wubi grub menu for a while. But since the script ended prematurely, you'll need to boot the wubi install and run :sudo update-grub
[02:37] <bcbc2> darkhelmet46: first, then you'll see the migrated entry at the bottom of the grub menu. No rush to do anything drastic
[02:38] <crazyhorse> hmm lets say i wanted to delete all files in the current directory except for the ones that contained dont-delete-these-ones in the file name. how do you do that?
[02:38] <crazyhorse> my first guess was find . -regex '.*dont-delete-these-ones.*' -prune -o -delete
[02:38] <crazyhorse> but when reading the man page it says you can't use -prune and -delete togetyher
[02:38] <darkhelmet46_net> bcbc2, if i remember correctly, i broke my Wubi install by trying to fix the migration, so i dunno if i can do that but i'll try
[02:39] <bcbc2> darkhelmet46_net: ok
[02:39] <rhughes> dose wubi work well in 64 bit?
[02:39] <rhughes> *does
[02:40] <darkhelmet46_net> bcbc2, help me out with the order, does it hit the Windows boot menu first and then Grub?
[02:41] <bcbc2> darkhelmet46_net: windows first, grub is hidden by default (on wubi) but it should boot straight in. After running sudo update-grub it will find the other install and then always prompt with the grub menu
[02:41] <nearst> oneko is cute on screen
[02:41] <hp_> 求教大神，FIREFOX下载选项卡全屏之后如何恢复原来大小
[02:41] <darkhelmet46_net> ok, i am in the Wubi install now.
[02:41] <bcbc2> rhughes: same as 32 bit
[02:42] <bcbc2> rhughes: same as normal (non-wubi) 64bit
[02:42] <rhughes> for some reason, everytime i do a wubi install it breaks the install after a few reboots
[02:43] <bcbc2> rhughes: what happens
[02:43] <MakiAto> tere ma olen Eestist
[02:43] <nearst> u try with unetbootin?
[02:44] <rhughes> its gets stuck on the grub menu
[02:44] <GeekSquid> !cn
[02:44] <rhughes> when i select the os it never loads
[02:44] <darkhelmet46_net> bcbc2, wait, i think i might be booted into the migration, not Wubi, but i'm not sure how to tell lol
[02:44] <hp_> firefox-tools-download,i made it fullscreen,how to make it by itself size
[02:44] <bcbc2> rhughes: you mean a grub prompt or the load hangs? what graphics card do you have
[02:44] <rhughes> i have an ati Radeon hd
[02:44] <rhughes> not sure the model number
[02:45] <rhughes> but it works fine after i first install it
[02:45] <bcbc2> darkhelmet46_net: df -h  or:  mount | grep ' / '
[02:45] <rhughes> but after a few reboots it craps out
[02:45] <bcbc2> darkhelmet46_net: if / is on /dev/loop0 it's wubi
[02:45] <MakiAto> Yet another kernel escalation bug and im moving to minix
[02:45] <bcbc2> rhughes: use nomodeset to boot: http://askubuntu.com/questions/162075/my-computer-boots-to-a-black-screen-what-options-do-i-have-to-fix-it
[02:46] <nearst> MakiAto, ya. gudluck to minix 3.2.1 :)
[02:46] <darkhelmet46_net> loop0
[02:46] <baumy> nobody knows?
[02:47] <bcbc2> darkhelmet46_net: okay, run sudo update-grub, make sure it mentions the migration and then reboot and select it
[02:48] <darkhelmet46_net> bcbc2, it said "Found Ubuntu 12.10 on /dev/sda2
[02:48] <darkhelmet46_net> looks promising
[02:48] <rhughes> ok will do
[02:48] <darkhelmet46_net> rebooting...
[02:49] <crazyhorse> why does touch ab && find . -regex 'ab' return no results?
[02:49] <bcbc2> darkhelmet46_net: cool
[02:50] <baumy> how do i get the ubuntu server login prompt to show up on the screen i want it to?
[02:50] <MakiAto> they hacked off i386 from the kernel how the hell am i goin to play Dwarf Fortress then?
[02:50] <nearst> locate -r 'ab'
[02:51] <darkhelmet46_net> bcbc2 ok so now when I choose Ubuntu from the Windows boot menu, it goes to Grub and I can choose either "Ubuntu" or "Ubuntu 12.10" so I chose the second one and I am looking at a flashinc cursor.  :(
[02:52] <bcbc2> darkhelmet46_net: hold on. Just checking something in the pastebin
[02:52] <darkhelmet46_net> bcbc2, kinda wonderin if I broke stuff while trying to fix it before.  kinda wonderin if I should just format the partition, and re-run the Wubi migration tool without the option to install Grub...
[02:54] <bcbc2> darkhelmet46_net: is it still hanging?
[02:55] <darkhelmet46_net> yep, but i can type stuff at the flashing cursor, so i guess at least it's not completely locked up?
[02:56] <bcbc2> use Alt+SysRq R-E-I-S-U-B to reboot, don't hard power off.
[02:56] <a111> s
[02:56] <a111> w
[02:56] <a111> a
[02:56] <a111> g
[02:56] <FloodBot1> a111: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:56] <rhughes> s
[02:56] <rhughes> w
[02:56] <rhughes> a
[02:56] <rhughes> g
[02:56] <rhughes> g
[02:56] <FloodBot1> rhughes: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:57] <a111> rekked
[02:57] <darkhelmet46_net> bcbc2, say what?
[02:57] <bcbc2> !reisub
[02:58] <darkhelmet46_net> got it.  little difficult cause i need to hold a function key too
[02:59] <darkhelmet46_net> now it said a bunch of stuff and ended at "Emergency Remount complete" and it's back to the flashing cursor.
[02:59] <bcbc2> darkhelmet46_net: maybe you missed the B at the end
[03:00] <bcbc2> darkhelmet46_net: the U does the remount, the B reboots
[03:01] <darkhelmet46_net> ok, i did it slower, "R" and "E" don't show any output, and when i get to "I", it says "This sysrqoperation is disabled"
[03:01] <mobodo> what would be a good package to remove reinstall if I wanted to get back to a clean installation? ubuntu-desktop I'm guessing?
[03:01] <darkhelmet46_net> then Emergency Sync
[03:01] <darkhelmet46_net> then Emergency Sync complete
[03:01] <escott> darkhelmet46_net, you should be going slowly with 5 or so secs between each
[03:01] <escott> darkhelmet46_net, if you race through them you defeat the purpose of doing them at all
[03:02]  * darkhelmet46_net whacks himself in the head with a 10lb Unix manual.  Thanks escott 
[03:02] <jpds> mobodo: Erm, no, reinstall completely.
[03:03] <mobodo> jpds: :(
[03:03] <WBF> I have a ubuntu irc related question. Can I congratulate ubuntu for how much I <3 it?
[03:03] <escott> darkhelmet46_net, yeah the factoid should probably say something about that
[03:03] <rottingdead> What's going on with the Kubuntu amd64 Disc? It installs fine in VirtualBox, but when I go to install it to hard drive, it freezes up shortly after clicking either, "Install now," or, "Try Kubuntu."
[03:04] <mobodo> what do you guys do with all your config files when you reinstall completely?
[03:04] <Nicolas_Leonidas> it was the modem people, the modem needs to be restarted after every dhcp change
[03:04] <Nicolas_Leonidas> or it will mess up, thanks for your help
[03:04] <mobodo> I don't mind reinstalling ubuntu, but my config files are all over the place, and I have custom stuff here and there...
[03:04] <silv3r_m00n> I need to install all debs in current directory and subdirectories, dpkg -I * does not install deb files in subdirectories, how to install all sub directory debs as well ?
[03:04] <darkhelmet46_net> ok, escott and bcbc2 "B" still doesn't seem to do anything.  Should I just ctrl-alt-del or just hard power off or something?
[03:05] <escott> darkhelmet46_net, once you get past U you can safely hard reboot
[03:05] <darkhelmet46_net> rgr
[03:05] <escott> darkhelmet46_net, B is just more polite
[03:06] <battlefield3> ¿someone could help me in ubuntu'
[03:06] <darkhelmet46_net> ah.  i'm not ususall into polite.  i often reboot windows with "restart -r -t 00 -f"  :)
[03:06] <nearst> !ask | battlefield3
[03:07] <darkhelmet46_net> which for you non-Windows folks, means "Reboot NOW, do not pass Go, do not collect $200"
[03:07] <WBF> darkhelmet46_net, XD
[03:07] <battlefield3> nearst, my ubuntu doesn't show the grub
[03:07] <WBF> darkhelmet46_net, sorry couldn't contain myself
[03:08] <darkhelmet46_net> 's all good
[03:08] <nearst> battlefield3, http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repair-restore-reinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd/
[03:08] <histo> battlefield3: you'd have to hold the shift key down after the bios load to get ot the grub menu
[03:08] <darkhelmet46_net> ok, so anyways, we're back to the flashing cursor escott and bcbc2.
[03:09] <escott> !nomodeset | darkhelmet46_net have you tried?
[03:09] <nearst> flashing cursor/blank screen - always try with nomodeset at grub
[03:09] <battlefield3> histo, really ????
[03:10] <darkhelmet46_net> escott, no haven't tried that.  looks like fun though....
[03:10] <truongap> Please visit this link first: http://i.stack.imgur.com/y0BKW.png
[03:10] <truongap> .I'm using Zorin OS with indicator gtk3 on AWN panel at bottom and compiz. I've got enough space to show all of it but it's stil like that. How should I solve my problem?
[03:10] <histo> battlefield3: really what? You said your uubntu doesn't show the grub? Ca you possibly rephrase that as a question that makes sense
[03:11] <histo> !derivatives | truongap
[03:11] <battlefield3> histo, is that true?
[03:11] <histo> battlefield3: is what true?
[03:12] <bcbc2> darkhelmet46_net: so both wubi and the migrated install are now just giving you a cursor?
[03:12] <bcbc2> darkhelmet46_net: or did you try the migrated one again?
[03:13] <Hpubuntu> hey there, I followed these instructions to get my wireless driver to work "http://droid-hive.com/index.php?/topic/1272-how-to-install-ralink-rt3290-wireless-drivers-on-ubuntu-1204/" but after installing some updates through update manage it stopped it from working, any ideas?
[03:13] <darkhelmet46_net> bcbc2, i tried the migrated one again.  ok so i hit E to edit the Grub menu, and I got a question, what is "$vt_handoff"?
[03:13] <battlefield3> histo, shitf in the start
[03:14] <plutonas> how can I enable the cube effect on my ubuntu 12.10? I cannot find any option on ccsm (as suggested by various guides)
[03:14] <histo> Hpubuntu: if the kernel updated you will have to rebuild any modules for the new kernel.
[03:14] <histo> battlefield3: yes it displays the grub menu rather than just booting
[03:14] <nearst> darkhelmet46_net, u can safe delete that vt handoff
[03:14] <bcbc2> darkhelmet46_net: http://askubuntu.com/a/34487/14916
[03:14] <battlefield3> histo,  let me try
[03:14] <histo> !cube | plutonas
[03:15] <Hpubuntu> so do i just repet the process i did before?
[03:15] <histo> Hpubuntu: basically yes for each new kernel
[03:15] <Hpubuntu> okay thanks , ]
[03:15] <histo> Hpubuntu: Alternatively you can boot the old kernel and you confirm that is the issue.
[03:15] <darkhelmet46_net> cool.  deleting that and adding "nomodeset"
[03:16] <nearst> darkhelmet46_net, edit /etc/default/grub then update-grub will have perm set
[03:16] <Del_Monte> hello all, im hoping I could have some help with an issue i encountered in xubuntu 12.10
[03:17] <darkhelmet46_net> I hit Ctrl+X to boot the modified entry and I am still getting a flashing cursor.  :(
[03:17] <bcbc2> darkhelmet46_net: you shouldn't need it if the wubi doesn't need it. I'd be more inclined to redo the migration
[03:18] <darkhelmet46_net> bcbc2, yeah that's pretty much where i'm at too
[03:18] <battlefield3> histo,  are you?
[03:21] <darkhelmet46_net> bcb2, i did some Googling on "LDM Blocker" and I *used* to have a dynamic disk and converted it back to basic, I wonder if that's what's causing the issue.
[03:23] <bcbc2> darkhelmet46_net: yes
[03:25] <histo> battlefield3: am I what?
[03:25] <darkhelmet46_net> If I had the patience, I'd take a full image backup of this thing and choose "yes" on that Boot Repair question, but I have a few hundred GB of data so it would take all night.
[03:25] <darkhelmet46_net> I'll retry the migration and hope that works.
[03:26] <histo> darkhelmet46_net: a dd would not take all night.
[03:27] <histo> !ask | delinquentme
[03:30] <darkhelmet46_net> histo, dunno how to use dd.  i usually use Acronis to backup to my NAS
[03:31] <darkhelmet46_net> also, will dd grab the stuff on my Windows partition?  that's where all my data is.
[03:33] <histo> darkhelmet46_net: yeah you can use it to grab whatever parition and or block device you want.
[03:35] <histo> darkhelmet46_net: dd if=/dev/of/whatever/you/want/backedup | gzip > /path/to/backup.gz
[03:35] <histo> darkhelmet46_net: that will compress it. If you want uncompressed copy of the complete thing you  can just use if=blah of=blah instead of piping it to gzip
[03:36] <darkhelmet46_net> histo, i will add that to my list of things to learn.  for now, i know how to use Acronis, and more importantly, I know i can successfully do a bare metal restore with it.  :)
[03:39] <Guest21799> da
[03:39] <histo> darkhelmet46_net: http://www.debianadmin.com/recover-data-from-a-dead-hard-drive-using-dd.html here is a good read for later
[03:40] <Arisen> hi all i have a big problem, i am using ubuntu under mac, in order to disable a specific key from keyboard i turned off all the keys mistakenly, now when it comes to login in ubuntu I CANT TYPE ANYTHING !!! i tried to enter as a guest but i can't delete the /etc/../options file which did the problem, help please
[03:41] <Arisen> i want to take control as an admin in ubuntu from the guest account in order to delete a file in /etc/ how is that possible ?
[03:42] <npf> hello
[03:42] <Abhijit> Arisen, yes if you know the admin password.
[03:42] <PadNet201> Use elevated privelages, i.e. sudo
[03:42] <Arisen> ofcourse
[03:42] <Arisen> how ?
[03:42] <Abhijit> Arisen, sudo <command here>
[03:42] <npf> how do i use the mv command to take a number of directorsy and move them back to one location
[03:43] <Abhijit> npf, mv -R
[03:43] <mjms> hello, I have tried to enable backports but I don't get the version 1.0 of znc in precise-backports, could someone help me please
[03:43] <Arisen> how to delete a file ? sudo rm …../etc/options ?
[03:44] <mobodo> anyone has had an issue where their fonts everywhere were like 2pt?
[03:44] <mobodo> (after upgrading to 12.10)
[03:44] <Abhijit> Arisen, sudo rm /path/to/file/name.txt
[03:44] <Arisen> thx !
[03:44] <npf> but I have a few diretories and a unknown number of subdirectories
[03:44] <Arisen> will reboot and try
[03:44] <Abhijit> npf, you mean only some of directories inside a directory?
[03:45] <mjms> could someone please help me get precise-backports working?
[03:46] <npf> No, I have seperated the main folder into folders like A B C D ....    I want to take the contaents of A B C D witch are folders and put tem back to a folder of my choice
[03:47] <darkhelmet46_net> histo, thanks that looks interesting.  i bookmarked it, could come in handy.
[03:47] <darkhelmet46_net> stupid question - how the heck do you scroll back in XChat?
[03:47] <Abhijit> npf, so take everything from A B C D and put them all of into E
[03:47] <npf> yes
[03:48] <Abhijit> npf, mv -R A B C D /path/to/E
[03:48] <PadNet201> darkhelmet46_net, page up?
[03:48] <npf> will try and get back to you
[03:48] <histo> darkhelmet46_net: pg up key usually
[03:49] <darkhelmet46_net> PadNet201, i actually thought of that, but i can't find page up on this stupid netbook.
[03:49] <evilytwisted> Hi... I downloaded the ubuntu installer for windows... How do i make ubuntu take over the whole partition..
[03:50] <PadNet201> darkhelmet46_net, not sure then...
[03:50] <evilytwisted> this link http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/windows-installer
[03:50] <darkhelmet46_net> ah.  fn+up arrow.  whodathunkit.
[03:50] <KI4RO> darkhelmet46_net, The mouse wheel works
[03:50]  * darkhelmet46_net ain't got no mouse wheel.
[03:51] <KI4RO> darkhelmet46_net, Sorry LOL
[03:51] <darkhelmet46_net> oh, but the right side of my touchpad scrolls... der.
[03:51] <KI4RO> darkhelmet46_net, Cool
[03:51] <andreeee> br?
[03:51] <GeekSquid> !pt
[03:52] <evilytwisted> Geeksquid, how do i make ubuntu use all of the system  hardrive space... as i installed it form the windows installer
[03:52] <evilytwisted> from *
[03:53] <histo> evilytwisted: You can't with the windows installer
[03:53] <npf> Abhijit: mv illegal option --R
[03:53] <evilytwisted> histo.. aww :(
[03:54] <Abhijit> npf, mv  A/* B/* C/* D/* /path/to/E
[03:54] <darkhelmet46_net> evilytwisted, you can do what i did and carve out some partition space and migrate your install to it, but i ran into some trouble doing that.
[03:54] <darkhelmet46_net> if you don't have any important data, cleanest way is to wipe your drive and install from CD and start over.
[03:54] <histo> evident: you can move to a regular install and just transfer your package selections and /home directory and you wouldn't be able to tell.
[03:55] <histo> evident: I'd backup /home/username and all your package selections if you've been using ubuntu for a while. Then reinstall to the entire hdd. Migrate your /home back and your package selections
[03:55] <histo> evilchiyo: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[03:55] <Novus> hello kittys
[03:55] <histo> woof
[03:55] <Novus> lol
[03:56] <Novus> Sooo
[03:56] <Novus> I need help on something
[03:56] <npf> didnt work...
[03:56] <npf> Abhijit: same error
[03:56] <cixelsyd> Novus, ?
[03:56] <Abhijit> what error?
[03:57] <Novus> I'm trying to build a computer system for my prototype car to monitor inputs and create modified outputs
[03:57] <Novus> and a GUI system for i
[03:57] <Novus> it
[03:57] <Abhijit> npf, do one folder at a time
[03:58] <Abhijit> npf, i am going away. ask someone else.
[03:59] <npf> http://pastebin.com/y617hdcD
[04:04] <h_s3tt1ngs> hello
[04:04] <h_s3tt1ngs> I'm newbie in Ubuntu
[04:04] <cixelsyd> h_s3tt1ngs, what would you like to know
[04:04] <gannebraemorr> cool, welcome to Ubuntu
[04:05] <h_s3tt1ngs> thank you guys
[04:05] <sam-palmisano> hi
[04:05] <h_s3tt1ngs> I open a terminal, and open a config.swp about some program
[04:06] <h_s3tt1ngs> I edit all the commands and quit #
[04:06] <h_s3tt1ngs> but can't save that .swp
[04:07] <darkhelmet46_net> do sudo gedit ?
[04:08] <h_s3tt1ngs> I press :q! or :wq and ENTER but it doesn't nothing
[04:08] <ikillcypher> Hi guys Im getting this error
[04:08] <ikillcypher> http://pastie.org/private/dnx9is8rye9iz6xjjcrcq
[04:08] <h_s3tt1ngs> sudo gedit per vim /etc/program/config ???
[04:10] <darkhelmet46> h_s3tt1ngs, I am a newbie myself, all I know is that if I just straight open a file, i can't always save it because of permissions. but if i do sudo gedit, it opens gedit as root and then i can save the file.
[04:10] <h_s3tt1ngs> OK, cool with sudo gedit I can see a UI :)
[04:10] <darkhelmet46> i ususally do sudo gedit, then browse to the file in Nautilus, and drag it onto the gedit window
[04:10] <h_s3tt1ngs> but wheres is that program? wich directory? root folder?
[04:11] <darkhelmet46> h_s3tt1ngs, refer to http://xkcd.com/149/
[04:11] <h_s3tt1ngs> ouh ok, let me try :)
[04:11] <darkhelmet46> h_s3tt1ngs, i am sure there is a command-line way of doing that same thing but i dunno how
[04:12] <h_s3tt1ngs> ok, I can try
[04:12] <ikillcypher> guys why is it the root is disable
[04:12] <ikillcypher> :(
[04:13] <darkhelmet46> histo, or bcbc2 still with me?  the migration finished but I have an error.
[04:13] <cixelsyd> h_s3tt1ngs, you have to press esc then press :q! or :wq
[04:14] <darkhelmet46> wubi-move.sh:  Starting chroot to the target install.
[04:14] <darkhelmet46> wubi-move.sh:  Removing lupin-support on target...
[04:14] <darkhelmet46> wubi-move.sh:  An error occurred within chroot
[04:14] <darkhelmet46> wubi-move.sh:  Error is: E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[04:14] <darkhelmet46> wubi-move.sh:  Attempting to exit chroot normally...
[04:14] <darkhelmet46> wubi-move.sh:  Exiting from chroot on target install...
[04:14] <h_s3tt1ngs> ouh I see, ok let me try that, because can't find polipo
[04:14] <ikillcypher> wtf
[04:14] <ikillcypher> bash: /home/ikillcypher/bin/repo: Permission denied
[04:15] <PadNet_201> simple question, how do i disable klipper from starting on boot?
[04:15] <ikillcypher> -bash: /root/bin/repo: No such file or directory
[04:15] <ikillcypher> jesus how do I fix this issue
[04:16] <bcbc2> darkhelmet46: I'm here
[04:16] <h_s3tt1ngs> IT WORKS :) thank you cixelsyd
[04:16] <ikillcypher> wow no one is even helping me
[04:16] <cixelsyd> h_s3tt1ngs, you're welcome
[04:16] <Laogeodritt> ikillcypher: for the perm denied, are you sure you set execute permission on the file first?
[04:16] <bcbc2> darkhelmet46: did you rerun it from scratch or use the --resume/--synch option?
[04:16] <h_s3tt1ngs> and thank you all of yous guys, see ya later.
[04:16] <ikillcypher> I did
[04:16] <h_s3tt1ngs> bye
[04:16] <ikillcypher> mkdir -p ~/bin
[04:17] <darkhelmet46> bcbc2, from scratch
[04:17] <darkhelmet46> bcbc2, exact command was: sudo bash wubi-move.sh /dev/sda2 /dev/sda3 --no-bootloader -y
[04:18] <cixelsyd> h_s3tt1ngs, also try pressing escape and typing :set nu
[04:18] <al_la> If I just used 'apt-get remove' on a package, is it too late to use purge to remove config files?  If I re-installed package them purged to remove, would it get the files?
[04:18] <ikillcypher> anyone know what's wrong over here ?
[04:19] <gannebraemorr> Sounds reasonable.
[04:19] <darkhelmet46> al_la, yes
[04:20] <bcbc2> darkhelmet46: do you have errors on the wubi install as well? What happens with: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:20] <darkhelmet46> standby...
[04:20] <al_la> darkhelmet46: yes to the first or second question?
[04:20] <ikillcypher> anyone know what's wrong over here ?
[04:21] <ikillcypher> bash: /home/ikillcypher/bin/repo: Permission denied
[04:21] <ikillcypher> -bash: /root/bin/repo: No such file or directory
[04:21] <darkhelmet46> al_la, yes to both i am pretty sure.  i am a newb, but that has been my experience.
[04:21] <darkhelmet46> bcbc2, if I do that it wants to upgrade a bunch of packages
[04:22] <intrader> Anyone, Good morning - I am having an overheating problem with Lenovo t61p laptop running Linux 12.10. The problem occurs when displaying video at full screen or when a web page has a lot of video clips. Google shows that many laptop users have overheating laptops. Is there a bug in ubuntu?
[04:22] <shroomduke> any ideas on failed update ... "Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/o/openjdk-7/openjdk-7-jre_7u13-2.3.6-0ubuntu0.12.04.1_i386.deb 404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.201 80]"
[04:23] <ikillcypher> HELLO ?!
[04:23] <bcbc2> darkhelmet46: what about sudo dpkg --configure -a
[04:23] <shroomduke> I read something on that intrader seems it has to do with cpu speed or ...
[04:23] <mobodo> if my graphics driver crashes, were would I find a log?
[04:24] <mobodo> (right now, glxgears segfaults)
[04:24] <darkhelmet46> bcbc2, I did that and it says "Setting up..." on several packages.
[04:25] <jpmh> According to gparted I have an 88G /dev/sda1 followed by 37G of unallocated space.  I am running off /dev/sda7.  But it will not allow me to grow the /dev/sda1 into the unallocated space, why not?
[04:25] <ikillcypher> ...
[04:25] <ikillcypher> so no one is going to help me
[04:25] <ikillcypher> ?
[04:25] <darkhelmet46> ikillcypher, did you try "sudo bash..." ?
[04:26] <ikillcypher> nope
[04:26] <darkhelmet46> ikillcypher, please refer to http://xkcd.com/149/
[04:26] <shroomduke> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/PowerManagement/PowerSavingTweaks
[04:26] <ikillcypher> now everything will be store at root
[04:26] <ikillcypher> which I dont have access too
[04:26] <yeahuyen> you're
[04:27] <bcbc2> darkhelmet46: rerun with the --resume option (append it to your original command).
[04:27] <intrader> shroomduke, cpu speed? PSensors show cpu 0 at 72C and usage at 6%
[04:28] <darkhelmet46> bcbc2, trying...
[04:28] <shroomduke> ikillcypher did you try sudo
[04:28] <ikillcypher> why is it the root is disable
[04:28] <ikillcypher> and how come stuff are something stored in the root folder
[04:29] <darkhelmet46> bcbc2, argh, now it says:
[04:29] <darkhelmet46> wubi-move.sh:  Validating --resume option
[04:29] <darkhelmet46> wubi-move.sh:  The UUID on swap partition /dev/sda3 has changed
[04:29] <darkhelmet46> wubi-move.sh:  The target partitions cannot be changed
[04:29] <darkhelmet46> wubi-move.sh:  when using the --resume option
[04:30] <shroomduke> intrader did you see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/PowerManagement/PowerSavingTweaks
[04:32] <darkhelmet46> ikillcypher, just like in Windows and Mac OS, many things need elevation in order to run.  In the Windows world it's called UAC.  In the Linux world, it's called "sudo".
[04:32] <bcbc2> darkhelmet46: argh. Use --synch then.
[04:32] <darkhelmet46> bcbc2, same error
[04:32] <Abhijit> npf ?
[04:33] <darkhelmet46> bcbc2, blank the target paritions and re-run?  :/
[04:33] <shroomduke> privmsg shroomduke hello
[04:33] <al_la> Howdy all, quick question.  In 12.10, I have clementine and rhymbox both installed.  I 'apt-get remove clementine' and choose 'n' just to see the list of packages (dependencies) that are no longer required and could be autoremoved after a remove.  I do the same for rhythmbox and it lists the same dependencies (libchromaprint0 libechonest1.2 libftgl2 libindicate-qt1 liblastfm1 libprojectm2  libqxt-core0 libqxt-gui0 projectm-data) as no longer being required.  I
[04:33] <al_la> f I had actually purged one, then autoremoved, would it have broken the other?  Does that mean I can never trust the package manager to gracefully handle dependencies?!  What am I missing here?
[04:34] <intrader> shroomduke, no, on 12.10? Is there control of the fan< I never hear mine even when PSensor.temp2 >97C
[04:34] <bcbc2> darkhelmet46: no. let's make sure there are no package dependency errors. first try this: apt-get install -f
[04:34] <bcbc2> darkhelmet46: sudo apt-get install -f
[04:34] <darkhelmet46> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 27 not upgraded.
[04:35] <bcbc2> darkhelmet46: i don't get why you are getting this error now, but not before. personally I'd process all pending updates. repeating the same thing and hoping for a different outcome isn't the best plan
[04:36] <shroomduke> i'm still figuring this stuff out
[04:36] <darkhelmet46> bcbc2, I would agree but I did run sudo dpkg --configure -a like it told me to, and that did sumthin, so maybe it will work now?
[04:38] <sidney_> How do I rectify a black screen with cursor in 10.04
[04:38] <bcbc2> darkhelmet46: ok
[04:39] <Kevin-_-> hey anyone ever have issues installing from a preloaded win 8 machine?
[04:39] <vfw> !nomodeset |sidney
[04:40] <unheeding> i saved 15-20% on my energy costs by switching to fglrx!
[04:40] <vfw> Kevin-_-: What kind of issue?
[04:40] <Kevin-_-> vfw: actually one second on that, this screen looks promising
[04:40] <vfw> !efi | Kevin-_-
[04:41] <Kevin-_-> ah that might be perfect
[04:41] <intrader> shroomduke, hard to tell for me upon reading the article. What does happen as to heat when I go full screen on a youTube? That is when laptop overheats
[04:43] <jayj> is it possible to install ubuntu alongside win 8?
[04:43] <yown> you can with win7, I bet you can with 8 too
[04:44] <jayj> let me rephrase this, has anyone installed ubuntu alongside win 8 in here?
[04:44] <jayj> not virtual box, actually on the system
[04:44] <ikillcypher> guys uh how do I prevent my laptop from going black screen after awhile
[04:44] <ikillcypher> aka screensaver s
[04:44] <ikillcypher> sorry Im new to linux
[04:44] <ikillcypher> previously windows 7 user
[04:45] <yown> Well just go into power managements like any OS including windows ik
[04:46] <ikillcypher> ty
[04:46] <ikillcypher> done AFK
[04:46] <ttoti> Go to System Settings then click Brightness and Lock
[04:46] <jayj> maybe I should go to a windows chatroom and ask there
[04:47] <darkhelmet46> some people are impatient here, i was just about to send jayj a link...
[04:47] <shroomduke> patients is a virtue...
[04:50] <yown> ttoti: I don't see any system settings
[04:54] <NeoColossus> Hello everyone! Any terminal guru's here?
[04:58] <NeoColossus> Man it seems dead here
[04:58] <WW42> Hello #ubuntu! Looking to install 12.10 on an old laptop; is there any reason to prefer 32- or 64-bit?
[04:58] <WW42> I know it had 64-bit Vista on it before, but this is on a new hard drive. Not sure what difference that makes.
[04:59] <docvell> I use the 64 bit version on my laptop
[04:59] <shroomduke> how old
[04:59] <shroomduke> how old is old
[05:00] <WW42> bought about 4 years ago. It's 2 GHz dual-core, 4 GB ram. I dunno much else about the processor.
[05:00] <docvell> laptop is 6 years old (Gateway m-1626)
[05:00] <LMC> hello? I have a VERY important question about ubuntu
[05:00] <docvell> I have a 2ghz speed, 3gb RAM and 250gb hard drive (plus external USB drive now)
[05:00] <docvell> ask away LMC
[05:00] <shroomduke> do you know if it's a 64 bit processor
[05:01] <LMC> ok well i have a compaq presariio f700 laptop
[05:01] <WW42> I would guess so, since it was running 64-bit Vista out of the box. But I don't know.
[05:01] <kalenjohnson> unless it's a netbook, most CPU's in the last 6 years are 64-bit capable
[05:01] <docvell> if it is a 64bit processor go for the 64 bit install
[05:01] <LMC> and i want ubuntu
[05:01] <docvell> LMC try the LiveCD and see if you like it
[05:01] <shroomduke> yea i'd do the 64 bit but then I'm a newbie
[05:01] <LMC> but it says it requires more than 4gb of space
[05:01] <shroomduke> wow
[05:01] <yown> well not sure 64bit is necessary if you don't exceed the max ram and HDD limitations of 32bit
[05:01] <kalenjohnson> LMC, how big is your hard drive?
[05:01] <LMC> and i dont know why my laptop wouldnt have that
[05:02] <Guest29358> anyone here using Voyager OS?
[05:02] <LMC> i have no clue
[05:02] <LMC> because my laptop is messed up
[05:02] <yown> Especially the ram, which I believe is limited to 4gb with 32bit
[05:02] <LMC> im running the trial version of ubuntu
[05:02] <LMC> i want to instal it
[05:02] <yown> trial version?
[05:02] <WW42> so, if I can run 64-bit, there's no real reason not to? Thanks for your help/advice.
[05:02] <yown> oh live version
[05:02] <kalenjohnson> LMC, like docvell said, try the live CD, and if it works alright you can install it from there
[05:02] <LMC> currently my laptop has no OS
[05:03] <yown> There should be some easy option for installing, that is what live is all about
[05:03] <yown> just poke around
[05:03] <kalenjohnson> if it's messed up, then trying to install ubuntu won't hurt it too badly
[05:03] <LMC> it wont let me continue
[05:03] <yown> ask in ubuntu if you are stuck
[05:03] <shroomduke> why not LMC?
[05:03] <LMC> it wont let me instal
[05:03] <kalenjohnson> what's the error?
[05:03] <LMC> it says it needs more spacve
[05:03] <LMC> space
[05:03] <intrader> Anyone, Good morning - I am having an overheating problem with Lenovo t61p laptop running Linux 12.10. The problem occurs when displaying video at full screen or when a web page has a lot of video clips. Google shows that many laptop users have overheating laptops. Is there a bug in ubuntu?
[05:03] <LMC> but i have no way to clear more space
[05:04] <shroomduke> does it recognize the HD or is the HD too small?
[05:04] <shroomduke> I think it's time for some Quake
[05:04] <LMC> is there another smaller OS i can use?
[05:05] <sidney_> LMC do you have a live cd
[05:05] <LMC> yes
[05:05] <LMC> i made one
[05:05] <kalenjohnson> intrader, can  you get some compressed air and clean out the vents? that sometimes helps
[05:05] <shroomduke> how big is your HD
[05:05] <LMC> me?
[05:05] <LMC> idk how do i check
[05:05] <darkhelmet46> LMC, open up GParted, try that.
[05:05] <sidney_> boot to the live enviroment open parted
[05:05] <LMC> whats gparted?
[05:05] <kalenjohnson> a program
[05:06] <shroomduke> intrader I don't know if this will help but http://itsfoss.com/solve-overheating-issue-in-ubuntu-12-10/
[05:06] <LMC> ddo i need to download it
[05:06] <sidney_> LMC no
[05:06] <darkhelmet46> LMC, it should be preinstalled
[05:06] <LMC> where
[05:06] <kalenjohnson> click the top left ubuntu button
[05:06] <kalenjohnson> type gparted and you should see it
[05:07] <LMC> ok let me try
[05:08] <LMC> its not showing anything
[05:09] <LMC> no devices detected
[05:09] <darkhelmet46> LMC, sounds like you need a hard drive.
[05:09] <sidney_> LMC are you installing 12.04
[05:09] <kalenjohnson> that might be the messed up part of your computer then, if it doesn't recognize the hard drive
[05:09] <darkhelmet46> Or it is disabled in BIOS...
[05:09] <kalenjohnson> yes, you should check and see if it shows up in the bios
[05:09] <LMC> how do i fix it
[05:09] <kalenjohnson> bios requires restarting the computer
[05:09] <sidney_> f2 at boot
[05:10] <py_can> Friend has given me a 1TB drive that seems to be broken. I cannot mount it. Dmesg syslog | tail -25 shows errors like "end_request io error". Filesystem was NTFS. My question is: Is this HDD beyond repair? How can I check what is exactly wrong?
[05:10] <LMC> oh um sometimes at boot it only lets me click esc and f10
[05:10] <py_can> I don't know how to use fsck without being able to mount the disk
[05:11] <LMC> yes it is 12.04 i think
[05:11] <LMC> but since its the live version it saves nothing
[05:12] <kalenjohnson> LMC, the first screen at boot might not say a button for the BIOS, but try pressing f2 a couple times and see if it shows up
[05:12] <sidney_> LMC you need to figure out whick key boots into bios
[05:12] <darkhelmet46> LMC either you don't have a hard drive installed, or it is not being detected.  Either it's a BIOS configuration issue or it might be connected wrong.
[05:12] <darkhelmet46> Or it's just plain dead and you need a new one.
[05:12] <LMC> ok thanks i will do thT
[05:13] <LMC> my grandma had this comp before me she prob messed it up
[05:13] <LMC> XD
[05:14] <darkhelmet46> LMC lol the hard drive probably died, i bet that's why she got rid of it.  :)
[05:14] <LMC> well she asked me to fix it
[05:14] <LMC> and said i could have it if i could XD
[05:14] <darkhelmet46> LMC and you said yes without knowing what you were getting into, didn't ya?  :D
[05:14] <sidney_> LMC what is the make
[05:14] <LMC> pretty much :D
[05:14] <darkhelmet46> Laptop or desktop?
[05:15] <LMC> laptop compaq presario f700
[05:16] <sidney_> LMC try f1 and f2
[05:17] <LMC> ok thanks and if you find out anymore on my problem or my laptop email me at ballycroyboy@yahoo.com please thanks :D
[05:17] <ejv> py_can: i'd call your local data recovery specialist; or have your friend restore data from his backup.
[05:18] <darkhelmet46> LMC, worse case you need a new hard drive.  Probably about $90 for a 1TB.  Not too bad...
[05:18] <py_can> ejv: He's already said goodbye to his data, I'm just wondering if I can format it and use it for my own :) Seeing as 'sudo lshw -C disk -short' does detect the disk I'm hoping it only has bad sectors or something...
[05:18] <LMC> right and i probably dont even need a pretty expensive one in the first place anyways
[05:19] <darkhelmet46> hey, bcbc2!  The migration finished and looks like success!!!  :D :D :D
[05:19] <sidney_> LMC if f10 is an option as you stated that may be the bios
[05:19] <ejv> if you're getting lots of i/o errors, im not too optmistic
[05:19] <LMC> f10 is setup but it never loads
[05:19] <sidney_> setup is the bios
[05:20] <bcbc2> darkhelmet46: sweet
[05:20] <LMC> ok well there is an f2 selection also
[05:20] <LMC> it just never lets me select it
[05:21] <bcbc2> darkhelmet46: have you booted it yet?
[05:21] <LMC> ok well im gunna go now dont forget mu email
[05:21] <LMC> my
[05:21] <LMC> bye
[05:21] <darkhelmet46> Gonna reboot, see you again soon I hope.
[05:22] <darkhelmet46> LMC...
[05:22] <darkhelmet46> Hate to RTFM ya, but try here: http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/DocumentIndex.jsp?lang=en&cc=us&contentType=SupportManual&prodTypeId=321957&prodSeriesId=3548233#2
[05:22] <LMC> yes?
[05:22] <LMC> ok
[05:22] <darkhelmet46> Ok, gonna reboot.  Be back soon.  (i hope)
[05:22] <LMC> k bye
[05:22] <LMC> thanks
[05:25]  * darkhelmet46 is back!  It worked!
[05:25] <ejv> what worked?
[05:26] <darkhelmet46> I got the flashing cursor for a few seconds and almost punched my screen, but then it went to the Ubuntu splash screen!  :D
[05:26] <bcbc2> darkhelmet46: cool
[05:26] <darkhelmet46> ejv, the Wubi migration that bcbc2 was helping me with.
[05:27] <darkhelmet46> Ok, so last thing...  How do I remove the Wubi install from Grub and make this one the default?
[05:27] <ejv> wubi... making things difficult for users since 2008.
[05:27] <bcbc2> darkhelmet46: something I noticed in the bootinfoscript from before... there's an extra line in /etc/fstab (the swap.disk). Can you remove that? (gksu gedit /etc/swap)
[05:28] <bcbc2> darkhelmet46: the problem is you can't install  grub until you fix the LDM issue
[05:28] <darkhelmet46> errr, when i did that it opened what looks like an empty document in gedit.
[05:28] <darkhelmet46> bcbc2, but Grub is installed...
[05:28] <bcbc2> darkhelmet46: doh I meant /etc/fstab
[05:29] <bcbc2> darkhelmet46: how did you get around the ldm issue? boot-repair?
[05:29] <darkhelmet46> no, i ran the migration with the switch that skips installing grub
[05:30] <darkhelmet46> figuring grub must already be there otherwise how can Wubi boot?
[05:30] <bcbc2> darkhelmet46: ok but then you're booting it from the wubi grub, and when you remove that you won't be able to boot it anymore
[05:30] <darkhelmet46> bcbc2, yeah i get that, i want to leave Grub, but remove the Wubi option from the menu and make this one the default.
[05:31] <baumy> if I want to get dual nvidia monitors working in ubuntu server 12.10 is this the correct series of steps: initial install of server; apt-get update; apt-get upgrade; apt-get install xserver-xorg xinit; apt-get install linux-headers-generic; reboot; apt-get install nvidia-current-updates; reboot and done?
[05:31] <darkhelmet46> and i got gedit up but i dunno what you want me to chagne...
[05:31] <bcbc2> darkhelmet46: the best solution is to remove any dependency on the Wubi install - use easyBCD or fix that LDM problem and install grub (best)
[05:31] <baumy> ive been having problems with the fact that the server ships with kernel version 3.5.0-17 but immediately updates to 3.5.0-25, and the login prompt displaying offscrene (but still definitely displaying, since i can blindly login and type startx, but i dont see anything but a black screen until i do those two things)
[05:32] <dr_willis> baumy:  i find it easier to just install the services i need on a desktop instgall.   what window manager are you planning on using?
[05:32] <baumy> i3
[05:32] <bcbc2> darkhelmet46: did you remove that line from /etc/fstab?
[05:32] <baumy> i dont want all the junk that comes with desktop, also i have a gtx 580, which has drivers that dont ship with the kernel, so the desktop installer crashes
[05:32] <darkhelmet46> not sure which line to remove
[05:32] <antz> info on wine on ubuntu pls
[05:32] <dr_willis> baumy:  the server boots to a console.. i dont see how the nvidia drivers will affect that. You could try disabling the framebuffer mode if you want a normal text based login
[05:33] <antz> also is wine a way to go for watching netflix?
[05:33] <antz> on ubuntu
[05:33] <bcbc2> darkhelmet46: /host/ubuntu/disks/swap.disk   none swap sw 0 0
[05:33] <dr_willis> antz thers a netflix package for using netflix on ubuntu. check the omgubuntu and webupd8 sites for info on it.
[05:33] <dr_willis> !netflix
[05:33] <ztedroid> !Netflix | antz
[05:33] <antz> thank you dr_willis
[05:34] <darkhelmet46> bcbc2, did that.
[05:34] <baumy> dr_willis: once i install nvidia drivers, the login console displays offscreen for some reason, like its several hundred pixels up from my actual display in the virtual xorg display thing. when i tried to install lightdm, the default background filled my screen but the actual login boxes were offscreen, seemed to be way above
[05:34] <dr_willis> antz:  the netflix-desktop has to install a lot of exra junk and makes a specuial firefox instance that runs correctly
[05:35] <dr_willis> baumy:  thats very odd.   the console does Not use X at all.. but the framebuffer.  which can cause issues at times. and can be disabled.
[05:35] <bcbc2> darkhelmet46: ok. note that the grub menu is in the Wubi install. It only can be updated from the Wubi install. so you have to boot Wubi to update it and make the migrated install default. It's not ideal. That's why you need to figure out how to install grub properly to /dev/sda
[05:35] <dr_willis> baumy:  i would set up a ssh server on the thing so you can ssh in and try out things. :)   does the bios screen appear corrextly?
[05:36] <darkhelmet46> bcbc2, ok that statement warps my brain a little but i think i get what you're saying.
[05:36] <dr_willis> baumy:  what sort of monitor and how is it conneccted?
[05:36] <baumy> dr_willis: bios is fine, its uefi actually, and everything works perfectly if i boot to integrated graphics
[05:36] <darkhelmet46> you're saying that it is not installed on sda or sda2, it is installed on the hard drive image file that Wubi uses?
[05:36] <nwpc01> wan2
[05:36] <baumy> i have two monitors, a 23" and 24", 1920x1080 and 1920x1200 respectively, hooked up to the first and second outputs of my gtx 580
[05:36] <baumy> ssh is tricky since im on university ethernet
[05:36] <baumy> they restrict some things
[05:36] <dr_willis> baumy:  so its only the nvidia cards that have the issue..  they are both connected via hdmi?
[05:37] <baumy> dvi
[05:37] <bcbc2> darkhelmet46: yes. the grub.cfg you see at startup is inside the root.disk file.
[05:37] <baumy> i will look into disabling framebuffer, that might just be my solution
[05:37] <baumy> ideally id like to use lightdm but i can live without
[05:37] <darkhelmet46> bcbc2, awww that's crappy.  so i need to keep that file which is eating like 30GB of disk space?
[05:37] <dr_willis> baumy:  check out slim its a login manager that uses  the framevuffer. ;) but still if X is way off position. thats very odd.. ive not seen such issues in years
[05:37] <baumy> it didnt make sense to me that the login prompt would use xserver, which is why i was confused that the symptoms of the problem very clearly pointed to the login prompt being offscreen
[05:38] <bcbc2> darkhelmet46: exactly. which is why you need to either use easyBCD or clear that LDM data so that you can install grub to /dev/sda
[05:38] <dr_willis> baumy:  does a normal desktop live cd work correctly?
[05:38] <baumy> dr_willis: no, crashes and complains about nouvea drivers
[05:38] <baumy> *nouveau
[05:38] <baumy> they don't support my video card, it's too new
[05:38] <dr_willis> baumy:  hmm. noveau works great on my older card. ;) was even able to do TF2.
[05:39] <baumy> dr_willis: that login manager looks fantastic, thank you, that might actually solve my problem
[05:39] <darkhelmet46> bcb2, Ok I got it.  I think I tried easyBCD before and it would have worked, but I was getting that flashing cursor thing.  I'll jump back to Windows and see if I can do that.
[05:39] <baumy> dr_willis: tf2 is most of the reason im doing this :P
[05:40] <darkhelmet46> ok, gonna reboot again and fire up easyBCD.  bbiab.
[05:40] <bcbc2> darkhelmet46: ok good luck
[05:40] <baumy> dr_willis: where can i learn more about this framebuffer thing and how it works, and will slim work if i disable it?
[05:41] <dr_willis> slim wont. i think.. not tried it in ages
[05:41] <dr_willis> there used to be a nofb option. but these days im not sure how to properly do it.
[05:41] <dr_willis> !framebuffer
[05:42] <baumy> wonderful
[05:42] <dr_willis> that guide may be outdated
[05:42] <baumy> well one way or another this sounds like the root of my problems
[05:42] <baumy> so im sure i can google my way through it now i know the cause
[05:43] <baumy> it says framebuffer causes problems with older video cards that don't have native support, maybe newer ones can have the same problem
[05:45] <coolroot> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5566839 can someone tell me if this is safe? this will be my last option to recover grub coz my cd/dvd drive ain't working not even my usb stick i mean my laptop ports ain't working too :(
[05:45] <dr_willis> frambuffer can cause all sorts of weirdness..  it was a big new neat idea when it came out.. but never really got as muh support as it could.
[05:47]  * [gnubie] waves
[05:49] <[gnubie]> i have a running ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS on my newly installed server. i'm wondering why the permissions of the files and folders in the /home/$USERS/* are changed back to umask of 002. any idea why it happened?
[05:50] <baumy> dr_willis: its a shame cause slim is sexy looking
[05:52] <[gnubie]> is there some sort of a cronjob that resets the permissions inside the users' home directories?
[05:52] <[gnubie]> anyone?
[06:00] <dr_willis> [gnubie]:  ive never seen such a thing
[06:00] <dr_willis> its not clear what your problem is exactly [gnubie]
[06:01] <nextone> Anyone know, if you can play crysis 3 with wine?
[06:01] <dr_willis> !appdb
[06:02] <Blackwebbbbb> if i wanted to bind SSHD to a certain interface would I just add "interface eth0" to /etc/ssh/ssh_config or is it "Interface eth0"
[06:02] <nextone> Thanks
[06:02] <Glaasa> Hi, I am just wondering if any of you have experience with SQUID proxy TCP behaviour? Thank you
[06:03] <dr_willis> sshd would be the sshd_config wouldent it? not ssh_config
[06:03] <Blackwebbbbb> ya
[06:03] <Blackwebbbbb> is it interface without a Capital I to declare the interface
[06:03] <Glaasa> ust wondering how squid behaves in regards to TCP connections.. Does it first recieve syn /ack from client and then fins it and then creates another tcp socket with the server and syn ack again, downloads the whole content and then reopens another tcp connection with the client to send the data, OR keeps the tcp connection with the client alive, and just recieves packets from the server and sends it right away to the client?
[06:04] <Blackwebbbbb> So "interface eth0" or "Interface eth0"
[06:04] <dr_willis> no idea.. id imagine its all lowercase
[06:05] <dr_willis> it might not even matter
[06:05] <Blackwebbbbb> I have 2 Network cards installed on PC and if the one is enabled that I'm not pointing ssh to connect to then it want connect
[06:06] <Blackwebbbbb> then it wont connect
[06:06] <Laogeodritt> Blackwebbbbb: I don't know offhand (is it even case-sensitive?), but you should be able to find it in the manpage. Do "man sshd_config". You can type / and then "Interface" to search the manpage (same as Ctrl+F in GUI programs)
[06:07] <coolroot> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5566839 can someone tell me if this is safe? this will be my last option to recover grub coz my cd/dvd drive ain't working not even my usb stick i mean my laptop ports ain't working too :(
[06:09] <krayon> Hi there.  Could someone possibly tell me what the output of 'lsb_release -ds' on an Ubuntu?  I don't have an Ubuntu system handy to test :/
[06:09] <dr_willis> coolroot:  one of the handiest things ive ever bought was a universal usb hd enclosre. if i goof up a hd on a problem system i can pull it out.. plug it in the adaptor and then setup linux on it and put it back
[06:10] <Harley> Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS
[06:10] <dr_willis> coolroot:  and you could paste the actual url here.. not a pastebin OF the url.. ;) since its 1 line.
[06:10] <kalenjohnson> krayon, http://refspecs.linuxbase.org/LSB_3.1.1/LSB-Core-generic/LSB-Core-generic/lsbrelease.html
[06:10] <krayon> Harley: I assume that's a reply to me :) thanks.  Was the output quoted or not (I expect not)?
[06:11] <krayon> kalenjohnson: thanks, but that's not my query :)
[06:11] <coolroot> dr_willis: but sir, i got a usb stick with a 10.04 distro but the problem is that when i put it on the port it can't be detected by my distro
[06:12] <Harley> krayon :   not quoted
[06:14] <krayon> Harley: Thank you very much :D
[06:14] <dr_willis> coolroot:  you want the 10.04 usb to bootable? or the hd?
[06:17] <coolroot> my usb is already bootable but when i tried to put it on my laptop it can't be detected :( i'm having a problem on my distro (10.04 lucid) i can't login in a normal mode i need to go to recovery mode and do the root drop....then from there i'll type startx and i will go to my desktop but apps ain't working if i do normal booting it will lead me to tty2 console and from there i'll try startx it won't display it will hang up my laptop :(
[06:18] <dr_willis> coolroot:  so you are trying to fix the install on a hard drive - in a somewhat flakey laptop
[06:18] <coolroot> yup
[06:19] <coolroot> i'm giving the link hoping if that is safe :(
[06:19] <dr_willis> you pastebined the actuaal url to follow - that makes it a littler harder to actually follow. ;)
[06:20] <coolroot> can i post my grub.cfg here? and can u do some checking?
[06:23] <melkor> Is there anything to do when I use open office if I play the slideshow it shows up on the wrong screen.
[06:23] <melkor> Sorry slide show in libre office presentation.
[06:23] <dr_willis> not really a lot i can do to check it..  it would take a glareing error for me to even notice an issue coolroot
[06:24] <dr_willis> melkor:  even if you drag it to the second monitor befor fullscreening it?
[06:25] <coolroot> dr_willis:  paste.ubuntu.com/5566928 here it is
[06:25] <coolroot> @ping
[06:25] <yown>  Is there a reason not to constantly run in gnome session fallback?
[06:26] <coolroot> dr_willis: np sir thanx but i hope i can do it hehe
[06:26] <melkor> dr_willis: correct, regardless of where the lo window is the slideshow shows up on the laptop screen.
[06:28] <dr_willis> melkor:  is this actually openoffice? or libreoffice?
[06:28] <melkor> libre office, it should be the default ubuntu one.
[06:28] <melkor> 3.5.7.2
[06:29] <booboo> hello good people! my vlc player plays videos funny. here's how it looks like: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/824/screenshot1zk.png/ thanks! :)
[06:29] <dr_willis> what video card/drivers?
[06:29] <melkor> intel hd4000
[06:29] <dr_willis> melkor:  there is a way to use compiz to force windows to open on some displays/monitor.. but ive never used it.. saw mention of it on webupd8 or omgubuntu under their dual monitor flash tweaks page
[06:30] <melkor> I've always had this issue with firefox + youtube. I often will just mirror the displays.
[06:30] <booboo> hello good people! my vlc player plays videos funny. here's how it looks like: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/824/screenshot1zk.png/ how do i fix it? thanks! :)
[06:30] <matthewvz> Didn't like unity so I decided to try out cinnamon, not a huge fan. Any suggestions on a good desktop environment anyone?
[06:30] <melkor> I use gnome shell. it is somewhat unobtrusive.
[06:30] <dr_willis> totally depens on what you want matthewvz
[06:31] <melkor> Of course, I'm here with issues about my display so ...
[06:31] <matthewvz> dr_willis: I want something clean and nice looking, not worried about resources.
[06:31] <dr_willis> use lubuntu then
[06:32] <dr_willis> its the cleanest out.. ;)
[06:32] <dr_willis> if you want a bit more off the beaten path - check out the e17 stuff
[06:32] <dr_willis> then theres good old xfce and kde.
[06:32] <dr_willis> then theres that elementary os. but its not officilly supported here
[06:33] <kalenjohnson> "clean" and "nice-looking" mean different things to different people
[06:33] <kalenjohnson> but if resources aren't an issue, give KDE a try first. it's the other "heavy" but "nice" one
[06:33] <bluebomber> I have two RAID5s, and I'm having issues with them: About once every two weeks, one of the drives "fails" from the RAID5, and has to be reformatted and added back to the RAID, which then is rebuilt. How exactly can I diagnose what's happening to my RAIDs?
[06:34] <[gnubie]> dr_willis: i already changed the UMASK to 027 into my /etc/login.defs but the users' permission still with a umask of 007. what shall i do? i want that all the users will have a umask of 027 except for system wide users
[06:34] <matthewvz> Clean for me is not cluttered, nice looking is well nice looking. One concern is my dual monitors. I will have to try out KDE and XFCE, thank you guys.
[06:34] <bluebomber> The drive that fails seems random, and it isn't a hardware failure. The drive passes benchmarks and works fine again once the RAID rebuilds.
[06:34] <dr_willis> [gnubie]:  id check the  bash init scripts to make sure its not getting changed elsewhere.
[06:34] <kalenjohnson> bluebomber, is it a different hard drive each time, or is it always the same?
[06:34] <bluebomber> kalenjohnson: It has been different drives.
[06:35] <[gnubie]> dr_willis: init scripts? which one?
[06:35] <bluebomber> kalenjohnson: And it doesn't appear to be related to the hardware of the drive itself failing (the drive works fine after readding and rebuilding).
[06:35] <dr_willis> [gnubie]:  the various bash scripots in /etc/ and the users homes
[06:35] <kalenjohnson> bluebomber, is the RAID on your mobo?
[06:36] <dr_willis> [gnubie]:  ive never had to mess with umask,  it may be worth checking on askubuntu.com on the right way to change it also
[06:36] <bluebomber> No. It's external, in a TowerRaid, using eSata and Port Multiplier.
[06:36] <kalenjohnson> huh... I've never used one of those, haha, sorry
[06:37] <prototype> hey all
[06:37] <kalenjohnson> but maybe the drivers aren't 100%? I don't know
[06:37] <bluebomber> kalenjohnson: That's ok. :-)
[06:37] <prototype> i wanna use ns2 on 12.4 any can help me how to install n use it
[06:37] <booboo> can some1 help me? my VLC plays videos strangely: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/824/screenshot1zk.png/ :(
[06:37] <bluebomber> kalenjohnson: They may not be, but how could I go about diagnosing it?
[06:38] <kalenjohnson> google it, or askubuntu.com might get the attention of someone with the same hardware
[06:39] <kalenjohnson> See if there's a website about the drivers and if they have any comments on it?
[06:41] <neirpyc> This video card will be the end of me!
[06:42] <neirpyc> I've tried everything I can find on nvidia + macbook pros + ubuntu and it just doesn't work right.
[06:43] <[gnubie]> dr_willis: ok
[06:49] <sandisufiandi> hello world, can some one tell me how to install Canon LBP7200CN
[06:51] <dr_willis> !cups
[06:51] <sandisufiandi> ok i read that first
[06:52] <dr_willis> canon can have very poor linux support with some of their printers
[06:53] <Vivekananda> Hey everyone! Hi dr_willis how are you :)
[06:54] <Vivekananda> What is the best pdf reader( most fully featured) that I can install in ubuntu. I had foxit through wine but I was using wine only for that. I can reinstall it but I wont need wine if I can get foxit full with pdf reading
[06:54] <Vivekananda> things like ( typewriter and tags shapes and messages and other foxit like annotation tools )
[06:54] <Vivekananda> any recommendations
[06:56] <dr_willis> foxit had a linux version at one time.. but i think they stopped it.. i rarely use any advanced pdf features
[06:56] <prototype_> !illegal | Vivekananda
[06:57] <dr_willis> err.. the linux verion was free.. ;)
[06:57] <Vivekananda> prototype: I did not know that it was illegal :(
[06:57] <dr_willis> as far as i know its not Vivekananda
[06:57] <foo357> Hello, I've got a 250 GB harddrive that I want to install 12.04 LTS (Desktop) on. How should I partition the disk?
[06:58] <Vivekananda> dr_willis: please relay that to prototype :)
[06:58] <dr_willis> thers some paid version of foxit. but ive never used it.
[06:58] <aeon-ltd> foo357: linux only? also do you plan to use other distros or reinstall a lot?
[06:58] <dr_willis> foo357:  depends on your needs. that small of a hd. you may want to just have a / and swap
[06:58] <ibqn> I ran into issue, after an update, I have  no border running xfce4 session, any ideas?
[06:58] <dr_willis> foo357:  is this a SDD?
[06:58] <dr_willis> ssd
[06:58] <Vivekananda> I only said I want a fully featured pdf reader. The best for linux. Is that an illegal question to ask ?
[06:58] <dr_willis> Vivekananda:  no its not
[06:58] <foo357> dr_willis: no it's a normal disk
[06:58] <histo> dr_willis: what I have a 64gb ssd and I still ahve room for swap
[06:59] <dr_willis> i got my whole linux install on a 128gb ssd
[06:59] <histo> foo357: I always createa  seperate /home at the very list
[06:59] <Vivekananda> well ok then I need some inputs. okular looks good but is there nothing better ?
[06:59] <Vivekananda> histo: *least you mean
[07:00] <foo357> aeon-ltd: It's actually a 500 GB disk with Win7 taking up half of it. GRUB has worked fine so far and I've reinstalled the current Ubuntu version (10.04 LTS) I'm using with Windows present.
[07:01] <histo> foo357: I have a 10gig / ,   around 50gig /home, and 3gig swap on my 64GB drive
[07:01] <histo> !partition | foo357
[07:01] <foo357> aeon-ltd: Reinstallation will probably be done yearly or so, when a new LTS release is out and I feel that the current one is getting old
[07:01] <ibqn> I ran into issue, after an update, I have  no border running xfce4 session, any ideas?
[07:01] <histo> foo357: well lts doesn't come out yearly
[07:02] <histo> foo357: also you can upgrade instead of reinstalling
[07:02] <histo> foo357: it isn't windows you don't get bit rot
[07:02] <meLon> My cursor is getting stuck on my secondary x screen.  I've never experienced this problem with this setup.  Any suggestions?  It's really frustrating because I have to completely restart to get the cursor back on the primary display
[07:02] <aeon-ltd> foo357: then a separate /home is a must for ease of reinstalls. so ntfs / /home /swap
[07:03] <aeon-ltd> foo357: also the 1mb partition for grub2 if you're using that
[07:04] <foo357> ok thanks for the intput aeon-ltd, dr_willis, histo
[07:04] <histo> meLon: Try restarting lightdm next time it happens vs. restarting the whole system.
[07:04] <dr_willis> i found 10gb too small for my /  ive filled up 20gb / befor.. but that was with tmp space usage
[07:04] <AAA> daemons are awesome that way!
[07:05] <unheeding> i don't use daemons!  i use aengels
[07:05] <AAA> is that free jSD?
[07:05] <unheeding> lol
[07:06] <foo357> Hmm I've got a install CD for 12.04 LTS, the target computer doesn't have an internet connection. Does the installation require this?
[07:07] <dr_willis> foo357:  no but its handy
[07:07] <KingSphinx> I have a 320 GB hard drive that I've partitioned as such: 20 GB to /, 295 GB to /home, the rest to swap. Works pretty well.
[07:07] <foo357> dr_willis: ok thanks
[07:08] <unheeding> it's nice to have updates, but not strictly necssary if you're not connected to the internet
[07:08] <unheeding> i guess you could run windows 98 offline just fine;)
[07:11] <darkhelmet46> bcbc2, still here?
[07:11] <bcbc2> darkhelmet46: hi
[07:12] <darkhelmet46> hey dude.  been fighting wtih EasyBCD, but no luck.
[07:12] <darkhelmet46> Best I can get is a grub prompt and a cursor.
[07:12] <bcbc2> darkhelmet46: hmmm I used it once - just to try it. Seemed to work okay. Which instructions are you following?
[07:12] <darkhelmet46> hang on
[07:14] <Vivekananda> I had wine installed before a format and I had moved the .wine folder to another partition but symlinked it from the home. Now after format and rync back of the home I dont see that symlink. what is the way to install wine now but still use the old .wine files?
[07:15] <darkhelmet46> bcbc2, basically this: http://neosmart.net/wiki/display/EBCD/Ubuntu
[07:15] <VinceThePrince> Damn! I think Xubuntu 12.04 is slower than Ubuntu 10.10 I upgraded yesterday or more downgraded in my opinion
[07:16] <aeon-ltd> VinceThePrince: there are more ways to get speed gains than just swapping distros
[07:16] <meLon> My cursor is getting trapped on display 0.1.  Any ideas on what could cause this?
[07:17] <VinceThePrince> aeon-ltd, I didn't want to upgrade but everyone was complaining that 10.10 was EOL :(
[07:17] <superman> hei can anyone help me how to install irssi?
[07:17] <meLon> superman: sudo apt-get install irssi
[07:17] <Vivekananda> anyone to my question ?
[07:18] <dr_willis> irssi is in the standard repos. ;)
[07:18] <bcbc2> darkhelmet46: I guess the difference is that you didn't install grub at all. Wubi doesn't require all the modules in /boot/grub because they're in the wubildr.
[07:19] <bcbc2> darkhelmet46: and when you run 'grub-install' it copies them to /boot/grub including the core.img
[07:19] <darkhelmet46> so you're sayin i'm screwed?
[07:20] <ikasle> cacca
[07:20] <bcbc2> darkhelmet46: no. You can install grub to your ubuntu partition /dev/sda2 (but you have to be careful with that) and it requires the --force option.
[07:21] <ikasle> xabi es noob
[07:21] <oskude> hi, anyone happen to know how to use preseeding to do automatic install? this info https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/i386/preseed-using.html seems old or just doesnt work anymore :/
[07:21] <bcbc2> darkhelmet46: but I'm wondering now whether it'd just be better to zap that LDM sector
[07:21] <darkhelmet46> yeah me too, i just don't want it to wreck my partition or something and then i'd lose data.
[07:22] <WW42> ... can anyone give me some tech help? I downloaded 12.10, burned it to a flash drive, and tried to install from it.
[07:22] <aeon-ltd> WW42: go on...
[07:22] <WW42> When I booted up, it said: "ERROR: No configuration file found"
[07:22] <oskude> or do people use some other method to do automatic install of many ubuntu machines?
[07:22] <ikasle> here we go!!!
[07:22] <bcbc2> darkhelmet46: the problem is that (from my understanding) ubuntu boots fine, but windows doesn't.
[07:23] <ikasle> cacaz
[07:23] <WW42> "No DEFAULT or UR configuration directive found!" "boot: _"
[07:23] <Jewfro-Macabbi> oskude, netinstall https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot
[07:23] <WW42> er, I mean UI
[07:23] <mae_tae> is that possible that all interfaces are dynamic ip's, all extracted from dhcp server?
[07:23] <oskude> Jewfro-Macabbi: and the automation you do how?
[07:23] <bcbc2> darkhelmet46: where am I going with that... oh year, the workaround #44 seems to suggest that adding a custom boot option will boot Windows.
[07:24] <darkhelmet46> ok, so check this out...  http://neosmart.net/wiki/display/EBCD/NeoGrub+Linux
[07:24] <darkhelmet46> looks like i can install something called NeoGrub, but I'll need to write the config file myself.
[07:24] <WW42> so, any idea what I could type into the "boot: " prompt to try and make it go? Or what I did wrong?
[07:24] <Jewfro-Macabbi> oskude, that part I don't know, but netboot let's you have prepared images for different architectures ready to load.
[07:25] <oskude> Jewfro-Macabbi: my problem is to get ubuntu automatically installed. this preseed thing doesnt seem to work :/
[07:25] <VinceThePrince> aeon-ltd, tell me how to get these speed gains :) for example when I press "start" all the icons appear very slowly
[07:25] <joeytwiddle> vncserver -kill :1   also kills the screen i am working in.  that can't be right :E
[07:26] <darkhelmet46> bcbc2, I think if I boot to wubi, open the grub config file, and copy it it somewhere, i should be able to then paste most of it into the NeoGrub config.  Thoughts?
[07:26] <aeon-ltd> VinceThePrince: what spec pc?
[07:26] <mae_tae> is that possible that all interfaces are dynamic ip's, all extracted from dhcp server?
[07:26] <bcbc2> darkhelmet46: I don't see how that will work. It means you need to copy the kernel and initrd.img to windows as well
[07:27] <oskude> maybe i would be quicker to script debootstrap...
[07:27] <oskude> does landscape do automatic installs?
[07:28] <meLon> My cursor is getting trapped on display 0.1.  Any ideas on what could cause this?
[07:28] <VinceThePrince> aeon-ltd, HP EliteBoook 8740w
[07:28] <DJHenjin_> I want to set up a virtual networking interface that listens to a different IP address than the one that eth0 listens to, i have set up eth0:0 to the correct settings, i think but wehn i restart networking i get failed to bring up eth0:0
[07:28] <bcbc2> darkhelmet46: why don't you try installing grub to your Ubuntu partition. Then use easyBCD again. Boot into the migrated install and make sure your partition is /dev/sda2 (it was before): sudo grub-install /dev/sda2 --force (NOTE if you get the wrong partition and do it on your windows one, windows won't boot. If you're nervous... make a windows repair CD first)
[07:29] <darkhelmet46> i think i tried that
[07:29] <aeon-ltd> VinceThePrince: what cpu, gpu, ram ?
[07:29] <DJHenjin_> when i do /etc/init.d/networking restart i get a bunch of postconf errors
[07:30] <bcbc2> darkhelmet46: what's in your /boot/grub directory on /dev/sda2? (Pastebin the file list)
[07:30] <darkhelmet46> the other thing is it looks like after messing with EasyBCD I somehow took away the ability to boot to Wubi
[07:31] <bcbc2> darkhelmet46: run CMD.EXE (select Run as Administrator), then run: bcdedit
[07:31] <bcbc2> darkhelmet46: copy and pastebin the result and the link back here
[07:31] <WW42> any ideas what went wrong? When I tried to boot from the install flashdrive, it said: "ERROR: No configuration file found / No DEFAULT or UI configuration directive found! / boot: _"
[07:31] <DJHenjin_> here is my /etc/network/interfaces file http://pastebin.com/QuA7Z9LU
[07:31] <aeon-ltd> VinceThePrince: i've googled and the 8740w is a $2000 laptop (i7, 4gb ram, amd firepro gpu), i'm guessing this isn't the same spec as the one you're using
[07:32] <oskude> so heres how far i got. works only on alternate cd... in grub prompt press esc (tip from upstream docs)... type: install auto=true priority=critical url=http://the/example.cfg (tip from web)... looks good, yet it asks full user name to create... all other methods doesnt even get this far... i really wonder if this preseed thing should even work
[07:33] <_genuser_> guys, my xubuntu installation all of a sudden says read only file system. after a few compiles of android framework.
[07:33] <_genuser_> what would cause the mounted filesystem to be read-only.
[07:34] <sandisufiandi> printer has been detected in network but unable to print
[07:34] <VinceThePrince> aeon-ltd, I'm using the older version i'm installing "hardinfo" this gives a nice overview
[07:34] <VinceThePrince> aeon-ltd, will a screenshot work for you?
[07:34] <aeon-ltd> VinceThePrince: ok
[07:34] <AAA> _genuser_: check tail /var/log/messages and dmesg|tail
[07:35] <_genuser_> AAA: seeing dmesg already. says: EXT4-fs error. add direcnt-to_buff blah blah : comm ccache: bad entry in directory: inode out of bounds - offset blah.aborting journal on device sda6.
[07:36] <_genuser_> I think it just went nuts on a filesystem corruption or some sort.
[07:36] <DJHenjin_> here are the errors i get http://pastebin.com/4JYteLbN
[07:36] <AAA> _genuser_: can you umount it and do a fsck? or is it your OS partition?
[07:37] <VinceThePrince> aeon-ltd, I'm never uploading using zimagez again damn screenshot app: http://www.zimagez.com/full/3c8a7e994669476e329a618ec91320d4be8c9a5c94388d5b6924c0fb25bf0a9dd6359cf390363c4ff37586d7e139a33b7c6ca0110d3d80f8.php
[07:37] <_genuser_> AAA: one line says - sched: RT throttling activated. sounds like either the data was being written to fast or something. it's rootfs partition.
[07:38] <DJHenjin_> can anyone help me with setting up a virtual interface to listen on a different IP than eth0 and with a different gateway as well
[07:38] <aeon-ltd> VinceThePrince: this shouldn't be slow or sluggish at all, what graphics card are you using and are drivers installed for it?
[07:38] <bentinata> Hello.
[07:38] <AAA> _genuser_: go to pastebin (don't paste here) and paste the output of df -sh
[07:38] <bentinata> How do I execute program from terminal?
[07:39] <aeon-ltd> bentinata: type it's name
[07:39] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[07:39] <bentinata> aeon-ltd: If i run /folder/name, it work.
[07:40] <aeon-ltd> ok....
[07:40] <bentinata> aeon-ltd: But, if I go to its folder, it won't
[07:40] <VinceThePrince> aeon-ltd, does this help: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-02262013-083955am.php][img]http://www.zimagez.com/miniature/screenshot-02262013-083955am.php
[07:40] <_genuser_> AAA: coming up. machine is taking too long to laod dpaste.com
[07:40] <VinceThePrince> aeon-ltd, http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-02262013-083955am.php *
[07:40] <_genuser_> AAA: dpaste.com/998258
[07:41] <_genuser_> ran df -h, assuming -s was a typo.
[07:41] <aeon-ltd> VinceThePrince: have you installed any ati drivers?
[07:41] <VinceThePrince> VinceThePrince, the safe ones :)
[07:41] <bentinata> aeon-ltd: Idea?
[07:41] <darkhelmet46> bcbc2, The Wubi install is just plain missing from bcdedit.  I renamed the Ubuntu folder on my hard drive and I am re-running the Wubi install.  After it's done, I will try to rename the folder back again and see if I can get it to boot.
[07:42] <aeon-ltd> bentinata: what's the problem?
[07:42] <bentinata> aeon-ltd: No, I've no problem.
[07:42] <bentinata> aeon-ltd: I just want to know, how to execute program inside its folder.
[07:42] <bcbc2> darkhelmet46: wow. everything that can go wrong...
[07:43] <aeon-ltd> bentinata: how did you get this program? if it's not executable you have to make it so
[07:43] <darkhelmet46> bcbc2, it was my fault, i was screwing with EasyBCD and I should have backed up the settings first.
[07:43] <VinceThePrince> aeon-ltd, drivers installed: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-02262013-084320am.php
[07:43] <bentinata> aeon-ltd: It's executable.
[07:43] <ripthejacker> !apache2
[07:43] <AAA> _genuser_: yeah, sorry, that's a du option.  paste this: mount; tail /var/log/messages; dmesg | tail
[07:44] <darkhelmet46> I need to get to bed, though.  It's almost 3am here.  I'll have to pick it up again later.
[07:44] <darkhelmet46> Thanks for all your help, bcbc2.
[07:44] <ripthejacker> !apache
[07:44] <bcbc2> darkhelmet46: ok - np.
[07:44] <bcbc2> darkhelmet46: good luck
[07:44] <darkhelmet46> ty
[07:44] <aeon-ltd> VinceThePrince: is it slow just after boot?
[07:44] <lolmaus> I have accidentially unpinned my flash drive from Unity toolbar. How do i pin it back?
[07:45] <VinceThePrince> aeon-ltd, mmm it's starting to see this why
[07:45] <_genuser_> AAA: dpaste.com/998267
[07:45] <VinceThePrince> aeon-ltd, what's the reason for that
[07:45] <bentinata> aeon-ltd: pastebin.com/xV9kvDxX
[07:45] <bentinata> aeon-ltd: See the differences?
[07:45] <DJHenjin_> well, looks like i wont be getting any help here
[07:45] <_genuser_> AAA: sorry mistyped messages but even /var/log/messages doesn't exist.
[07:46] <AAA> tail: cannot open `/var/log/message'
[07:46] <AAA> you forgot the s
[07:46] <aeon-ltd> bentinata: yes
[07:46] <AAA> what is cat /etc/issue ?
[07:46] <andross> hey has anyone taken the ethical hacker certification
[07:46] <andross> or know anyone who has
[07:46] <aeon-ltd> bentinata: not perfectly ideal, but you could create a alias to launch that program
[07:47] <AAA> _genuser_: it really sounds like a bad disk
[07:47] <aeon-ltd> VinceThePrince: so it's slow immediately after boot?
[07:47] <Courtenay> anyone here know anything about android custom recoverys? i know not the right channel but theres no life in #ubuntu-touch
[07:47] <bentinata> aeon-ltd: Haha, I've think about that too.
[07:47] <VinceThePrince> aeon-ltd, yes it is slow immediately after boot after that it seems it runs "warm" and works better
[07:48] <bentinata> aeon-ltd: I think someone could give me an answer.
[07:48] <_genuser_> AAA: even with /var/log/messages it can't find it.
[07:48] <_genuser_> AAA: it's a vmware disk. if I reboot it will be fine.
[07:48] <aeon-ltd> VinceThePrince: that's probably just finishing the boot sequence, when things are loaded into ram then that's the desktop finishing loading
[07:49] <_genuser_> AAA: cat /etc/issue Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS \n \1
[07:49] <AAA> _genuser_: if you can reboot the machine, I would do that and do an fsck on the way up.  this _should work. touch /forcefsck && reboot (as sudo/root)
[07:49] <aeon-ltd> VinceThePrince: that's perfectly normal, though if you want to decrease that time you could just use lighter software e.g. openbox instead of unity
[07:49] <_genuser_> AAA: hmm, altho it's a virtual machine for building android. I might just report no problems, but the real disk might be getting old.
[07:50] <Kartagis> how can I use a USB device for which I see a "device was not an MTP device" error?
[07:50] <VinceThePrince> aeon-ltd, thanks a Million for your help if you ever need SAP HR Consultancy contact me ;)
[07:50] <_genuser_> AAA: obviously on a RO mount, can't touch /forcefsck
[07:50] <AAA> _genuser_: that error is for your _real_ /dev/sda6 device. _that_ is what you need to fsck
[07:50] <aeon-ltd> VinceThePrince: i didn't really do much though :)
[07:51] <bentinata> aeon-ltd: Thanks!
[07:51] <_genuser_> AAA: yeah, it's a hope of rebooting and rebuilding again. I wonder if all those years of gentoo vm builds are getting the disk tired.
[07:51] <AAA> _genuser_: if you get backed into  a corner, you can do: mount -oremount,rw /
[07:51] <AAA> yes, it is _all_ gentoo's fault!
[07:52] <_genuser_> lol, I've done some heavy disk writing on taht drive. nice that it isn't the main OS disk
[07:52] <oskude> hmm, root user in ubuntu has no password by default?
[07:52] <AAA> you can run some smartcl or bonnie tests on it
[07:52] <AAA> or just dd
[07:53] <_genuser_> AAA: host is windows 7. probably need to find some disk diagnostics tools for windows.
[07:53] <mae_tae> how will i do it that the two interfaces of single machine all get dynamic ip from dhcp server?
[07:54] <_genuser_> AAA: bumping mem assigned to machine and rebooting. let's see what it does.
[07:54] <Kartagis> oskude: use sudo -s, not su - root
[07:54] <AAA> mae_tae: configure your dhcp server to give those MAC address's a preset IP?
[07:54] <DJHenjin_> I NEED to set up a virtual interface that listens on a different address and has a different gateway than eth0 can someone help me
[07:55] <AAA> _genuser_: most important thing is to do a fsck
[07:55] <AAA> !interfaces
[07:55] <_genuser_> AAA: yeah, finding some windows util for host machien to run smartctl stuff on disk.
[07:55] <mae_tae> AAA: ok so how i will define since both interfaces have same hostname?
[07:55] <Kartagis> DJHenjin_: edit /etc/network/interfaces and restart networking afterwards
[07:56] <AAA> mae_tae: by IP
[07:56] <AAA> mae_tae: by IP/and or MAC
[07:56] <_genuser_> AAA: thx for your help. :)
[07:57] <AAA> _genuser_: go go linux!
[07:57] <_genuser_> AAA: go to #linux? or host OS?
[07:57] <DJHenjin_> Kartagis:  i have tried that, i get failed to bring up eth0:0 every time
[07:57] <AAA> _genuser_: heh, just saying. yay for Linux
[07:58] <mae_tae> AAA: like this host pc { hardware-ethernet ........ fixed-address......., hardware-ethernet, ....... fixed-add } is this what you mean?
[07:58] <_genuser_> AAA: oh, I run server linux. but windows is required by the music stuff I use. no equivalent in linux. not yet.
[07:58] <AAA> DJHenjin_: paste (in some pastebin) cat /etc/network/interfaces
[07:59] <DJHenjin_> http://pastebin.com/QuA7Z9LU
[07:59] <AAA> mae_tae: it depends on your dhcpd software. what are you using? can you paste the conf file (in pastebin, not here)
[08:00] <mae_tae> im just using dhcp3-server, im just starting to configure, im just trying to get the idea
[08:00] <mae_tae> AAA: im just using dhcp3-server, im just starting to configure, im just trying to get the idea
[08:00] <Raptors> so I am watching the latest linux action show and they are talking about ubuntu touch. They are saying that ubuntu touch is going to be using android kernel (cm 10.1) and android window manager (opposed to x11)
[08:00] <Raptors> Would this mean that it'd be possible to use android aps on ubuntu touch?
[08:00] <AAA> DJHenjin_: what happens when you do ifconfig eth0:0; ifup eth0:0; ifconfig eth0:0 ?
[08:00] <mae_tae> AAA: whats more generice of doing that?
[08:01] <DJHenjin_> RTNETLINK answers: File exists
[08:01] <DJHenjin_> Failed to bring up eth0:0.
[08:01] <AAA> mae_tae: that is the way. can actually ping the eth1 (private interface) from the dhcpd server?
[08:02] <AAA> DJHenjin_: so does ifconfig eth0:0 give you info you can pastebin?
[08:02] <burtonium> Raptor: As far as I know, every Android uses Linux kernel
[08:02] <DJHenjin_> http://pastebin.com/sqvsPP3H
[08:03] <mae_tae>  AAA i got an error there is only one fixed address declaration per host
[08:04] <AAA> DJHenjin_: and route -n?
[08:04] <DJHenjin_> http://pastebin.com/kH1EqyHY
[08:04] <andross> anyone know why the 12.10 amd64 iso is so larger
[08:04] <andross> large
[08:05] <ikonia> andross: more packages
[08:05] <andross> since my cds are only 730megs i will be using 12.04
[08:07] <dr_willis> 12.10+ is now on a dvd image
[08:07] <n8w|> how do i adjust a window title for a remote host? all it shows now is "~:bash"
[08:08] <dr_willis> n8w|:  in a xterm window? theres excape codes/bash prompt tricks to do it
[08:08] <dr_willis> check out the bash prompt howto for fancy tricks in that area
[08:08] <andross> also while im complaining about things that dont matter
[08:08] <andross> if anyone who is affiliated with the ubuntu store is here
[08:08] <n8w|> dr_willis, konsole...
[08:09] <andross> why does everything appear in british pounds
[08:09] <DJHenjin_> AAA: http://pastebin.com/kH1EqyHY
[08:09] <dr_willis> konsole may or may not follow the bash/xterm standards
[08:09] <AAA> DJHenjin_: can you ping 192.95.23.254 from the server?
[08:09] <andross> and shipping is too expensive to be reasonable
[08:09] <n8w|> dr_willis, i have managed to adjust a local tab according to my needs, but i fail with the remote one
[08:09] <andross> and i dont wanna register to buy something
[08:09] <andross> i used to use the old store all the time but when they changed that ended my purchasing
[08:09] <DJHenjin_> 6 packets sent 6 recieved
[08:10] <DJHenjin_> i can ping it from my local machine as well, i dont understand why it says it cant bring the interface up if it is working
[08:12] <AAA> DJHenjin_:  it sounds like it is working. but, if you need it to go out the .23 gateway, you'll want to add something like $ route add 192.95.23.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 eth0:0
[08:12] <mae_tae> AAA: here's the link http://pastebin.com/f9rCZimN
[08:12] <AAA> DJHenjin_: adjust that command to fit. you may needs some iptables foo also to make it work. it depends on what you're trying to do
[08:14] <DJHenjin_> AAA: netmask 000000ff does not make sense with host route
[08:15] <AAA> mae_tae: have you tried to renew the DHCP leases from the client? (while doina something like tail /var/log/dhcpd.log)
[08:15] <AAA> DJHenjin_: change netmask to 255.255.255.255
[08:16] <DJHenjin_> still says does not make sense
[08:16] <mae_tae> AAA: actually i executed it returns an error, it says there should be one fixed-address per host, is there a way where i could implement same concept?
[08:17] <superman> how do find smuxi list server
[08:17] <superman> i*
[08:17] <AAA> mae_tae: ah, you'll probably want to push routes from the dhcpd server then
[08:18] <DJHenjin_> AAA: thanks for the help, ill figure somehing out
[08:18] <AAA> mae_tae: is there a reason you can't just add the private IP and forego the dhcp stuff?
[08:18] <mae_tae> AAA: no, i want the two interfaces (eth0, eth1) get ip's from dhcp server?
[08:19] <AAA> mae_tae: remind me the link to your /etc/network/interfaces
[08:20] <zlatan> hi I have to problems. 1. I can't reboot nor shutdown Ubuntu and http://askubuntu.com/questions/132143/stuck-on-reboot-and-shutdown doesn't help. 2. can't send files (both ways) nor browse my phone via bluetooth
[08:20] <Synesthesia32> Sup ubuntu, new in here
[08:20] <zlatan> s/to/two
[08:20] <mae_tae> AAA: its all this iface eth0 inet dhcp ....... iface eth1 inet dhcp
[08:21] <aetaric_> I've upgraded from 12.04 to 12.10 on my macbook pro, now the trackpad doesn't work.
[08:21] <AAA> mae_tae: renew the least on the host as you tail the log file on the server (maybe /va/log/dhcpd.log)
[08:22] <AAA> s/least/lease
[08:23] <Synesthesia32> So, i have a problem sending mail. I intalled postfix on ubuntu server 12.04 and mailutils, didn't ask me for any configuration. All the emails i send arrive to user without Return-Path header
[08:24] <mae_tae> AAA: i dont have dhcp.log but i look the dmesg... there is error the eth1: link is not ready
[08:24] <TakeItEZ> Synesthesia32: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure postfix" if you want to redo the initial configuration
[08:25] <Synesthesia32> Ill try that, thanks TekeItEZ, any more advice?
[08:25] <AAA> mae_tae: whast does this give you (on the dhcpd server)? dpkg -l|grep dhcpd
[08:26] <TakeItEZ> Synesthesia32: well, #postfix, http://postfix.org/documentation ;)
[08:26] <FaheemAM> Hi, can anyone recommend where or how i should start learning to code lol
[08:26] <dr_willis> FaheemAM:  go learn python
[08:27] <AAA> mae_tae: also, tab is your friend. if you do (as root) ls /var/log/dh<tab><tab> you get a list of matching directories/files
[08:27] <FaheemAM> ok cool, thanks dr_willis
[08:27] <FaheemAM> dr_willis,  any websites or guides u can recommend? or just start googling lol
[08:27] <TakeItEZ> FaheemAM: www.lolcode.com
[08:27] <georgelappies> hi all
[08:27] <acelitemn> i have a problem internet speed on ubuntu 12.0
[08:27] <ikonia> FaheemAM: pick a language, pick a tutorial, progresss
[08:27] <FaheemAM> lol...
[08:27] <dr_willis> python.org
[08:27] <ikonia> FaheemAM: it's a bit out of scope for this channel, try ##programming
[08:28] <FaheemAM> thanks ikonia...
[08:28] <acelitemn> i tried this http://www.techairlines.com/2010/10/03/disable-ipv6-on-ubuntu-to-speed-up-browsing/ but fixing not change anything
[08:29] <nikolam> Hi. I think I can not report bug reports. Because lsb_release is crashing and it stops apport to report bugs I think. I am on Xubuntu 12.04.2 x86 32-bit
[08:29] <ikonia> nikolam: can you do lsb_release -a
[08:30] <dr_willis> if lsb is crashing.. you got bigger issues then some bugs i think
[08:30] <Synesthesia32> I,m developping a proyect in PHP but everybody talks about Ruby on Rails now. Is it really that good?
[08:30] <ikonia> Synesthesia32: try #ruby
[08:30] <Synesthesia32> Ok
[08:31] <nikolam> ikonia, I can, it gives Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS
[08:31] <ikonia> nikolam: ok, so then lsb_release is not crashing
[08:32] <nikolam> but it keeps saying it is crashing everyday and report bugs and report bugs about apport and lsb_release and I think bugs are actually not reported
[08:32] <ikonia> nikolam: what says it's crashing ?
[08:32] <ikonia> nikolam: what's actually happening
[08:32] <Synesthesia32> Is there any channel for general programming on freenode?
[08:32] <acelitemn>  wifi connected but some site browsing very very slow.
[08:32] <nikolam> I just started ubuntu-bug to report it manually and .. it popped as bug report.
[08:33] <ikonia> Synesthesia32: ##programming - and please don't use this channel like a yellow pages
[08:33] <ikonia> nikolam report what manually ?
[08:33] <nikolam> "sorry, the application lsb_release has closed unexpectedly"
[08:33] <nikolam> using ubuntu-bug ?
[08:33] <ikonia> nikolam: so that just randomly pop's up
[08:34] <aetaric_> I've upgraded from 12.04 to 12.10 on my macbook pro, now the trackpad doesn't work. Any ideas?
[08:34] <woozly> guys, can I restore what's was in /tmp/ after it's auto- cleanup?
[08:34] <woozly> :((
[08:34] <nikolam> it starts reporting keyboard addon bug, then apport itself then after 6 or so bug reports it quits
[08:34] <zlatan> hi I have to problems. 1. I can't reboot nor shutdown Ubuntu and http://askubuntu.com/questions/132143/stuck-on-reboot-and-shutdown doesn't help. 2. can't send files (both ways) nor browse my phone via bluetooth
[08:34] <nikolam> now it popps up apport-gtk bug report
[08:35] <ikonia> nikolam: slow down
[08:35] <TakeItEZ> woozly: you might try photorec if your /tmp isn't in tmpfs
[08:35] <nikolam> It is like that since the first day of install ikonia
[08:35] <woozly> TakeItEZ: thanks, i'll try
[08:35] <ikonia> nikolam: so your system is running fine, then you get a popup saying lsb_release has closed unexpectedly
[08:35] <nikolam> ok ikonia
[08:35] <ikonia> nikolam: is my summary correct ?
[08:36] <nikolam> ikonia, ikonia , it first pops up like application crash, then apport-gtk crash and then lsb_release crash
[08:36] <ikonia> nikolam: you're not making sense
[08:36] <nikolam> now reports /usr/lib/command-not found
[08:37] <ikonia> nikolam: you system is running fine - then you get a warning that lsb_release has crashed, correct ?
[08:37] <nikolam> ikonia, this is my second instalaltion on second HDD. Since the moment of update from 12.04 to 12.04.2 it pops up bugs and I think apport is unable to report them automatically.
[08:37] <histo> Ritalin
[08:38] <ikonia> nikolam: please stop giving me information I'm not asking for and answer the question I AM asking
[08:38]  * histo hands ikonia a beer
[08:38] <nikolam> ikonia, no, system running fine, and he pops up showing many crash bug reports once a day
[08:38] <ikonia> nikolam: right, ok, so there is a bigger problem here then
[08:38] <nikolam> ikonia, no. lsb_release is final stage of all bugs.
[08:38] <ikonia> nikolam: from what you are saying, your upgrade is not working
[08:38] <ikonia> nikolam: have you tried a clean 12.10 install ?
[08:38] <mae_tae> AAA: is this concept that i presented you, is it that possible?
[08:39] <nikolam> I was thinking it was the root of the problem since it is last showed
[08:39] <ikonia> nikolam: no, it's not the root of the problem, hence why I'm trying to get clear information from you
[08:39] <^DEMOSS^> how i can mount read only my raid md0 ?
[08:39] <Viliny> Hey, whats up with the cd image on the ubuntu site that doesn't fit on a cd?
[08:39] <histo> woozly: it's unlikely, but you can try with data recovery tools. Why were you storing stuff in /tmp?
[08:39] <ikonia> nikolam: have you tried a clean 12.10 install ?
[08:39] <nikolam> ikonia, i was not tried 12.10, since It is older machine and I tend to use it as a router. Maybe I could try, but it is strance, since I think LTS should be supported?
[08:39] <auronandace> Viliny: you use a dvd instead
[08:39] <woozly> histo: I don't know that It clean up automatically :((((
[08:39] <acelitemn> i disabled ipv6 but internet is slow slow. I dont idea how to fix that :(
[08:40] <ikonia> nikolam: hang on why are you pgrading it then ?
[08:40] <auronandace> Viliny: or opt to put it on a usb
[08:40] <histo> woozly: upon restart
[08:40] <ikonia> read
[08:40] <woozly> photorec says 'No  harddisk found'
[08:40] <histo> woozly: /tmp is cleaned
[08:40] <ikonia> nikolam: sorry, you're upgtrading it to 12.04.2
[08:40] <ikonia> nikolam: sorry, I miss-read
[08:40] <nikolam> ikonia, I think, you are not listening to me, It is automatic upgrade that is offered to LTS release.
[08:40] <AAA> mae_tae: yes, it sure is. as long as the dhcpd server can connect to the .23 network (.23. is your eth1 and .32. is your eth0)
[08:40] <Viliny> auronandace: yeah thats my next step, but still... an image barely bigger than a cd to waste a dvd on :/
[08:40] <ikonia> nikolam: yes, I see it's 12.04.2
[08:40] <nikolam> yes :)
[08:40] <woozly> histo: Now I know it .. :( but it is too late.. I've made big script, which I write over 3 days..
[08:40] <woozly> And I write it in /tmp .... :(((((((
[08:41] <woozly> oh my God.
[08:41] <AAA> mae_tae: from the dhcp server, can you ping the eth1 address of the host machine?
[08:41] <ikonia> nikolam: ok, the first question is do you have any PPA's or external software repositories on the system ?
[08:41] <auronandace> Viliny: i was a little disappointed at that too
[08:41] <woozly> does vim has some histories?
[08:41] <histo> woozly: Yeah /tmp as in temporary
[08:41] <woozly> or something
[08:41] <Viliny> auronandace: i tried overburning but no dice :/
[08:41] <nikolam> Now I get "problem report is damaged and cannot be porcessed"
[08:41] <nikolam> ikonia, no, it is clean install with default repos
[08:41] <histo> woozly: first remount / with ro and try and recover
[08:41] <nikolam> and it is the second install behaving the same way
[08:41] <mae_tae> AAA: there's no ip assign to eth1, it doesnt get any ip from dhcp server
[08:42] <ikonia> nikolam: I'm trying to find when 12.0.4.2 was released
[08:42] <AAA> mae_tae: sorry, where is the link to your $ ifconfig -a  ?
[08:42] <histo> woozly: http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Recovering_files
[08:42] <nikolam> I installed firewall configuratioin (since firestarter was not behaving) and I am sharing wireless connection to LAN.
[08:42] <AAA> mae_tae: and cast /etc/network/interfaces
[08:42] <histo> woozly: vim -r ""
[08:42] <AAA> mae_tae: er, cat
[08:42] <histo> woozly: vim -r
[08:42] <ikonia> nikolam: is this a standard 12.04 desktop/server install ?
[08:42] <ikonia> which one
[08:43] <woozly> empty :(((((((((((( nnnnnoooooooooooooooooooooooooo..........!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[08:43] <ikonia> nikolam: 32/64bit ?
[08:43] <woozly> shiiiitt
[08:43] <ikonia> woozly: stop the language
[08:43] <nikolam> it is kernel 3.2.0-38
[08:43] <woozly> good lesson for me.
[08:43] <histo> woozly: try vim -r    with no opptions
[08:43] <ikonia> woozly: grow up - people are trying to help you
[08:43] <auronandace> ikonia: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2013-February/000166.html
[08:43] <ikonia> auronandace: thank you
[08:43] <nikolam> ikonia, it is i386 desktop standard install , yes
[08:43] <woozly> vim -r - empty
[08:43] <woozly> :(
[08:43] <ikonia> nikolam: try an install from this media http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/ubuntu-12.04.2-desktop-i386.iso
[08:43] <woozly> dammit, this situation is lol :)
[08:43] <histo> woozly: okay well if you mount ro immediately testdisk maybe able to help
[08:43] <woozly> thank you guys.. Let's write code again..
[08:43] <ikonia> nikolam: lets see if you have this problem from a 12.04.2 install
[08:44] <AAA> vim /dev/null =p
[08:44] <heidelfuchs> hey there... i did a dist-upgrad from 12.04 to 12.10... unfortunately all my virtual machines now have no internet access anymore. I tried to reconfigure virtualbox but i still have the problem. Any suggestions? :/
[08:44] <ikonia> nikolam: it sounds like the updates are failing,
[08:44] <woozly> histo: what is ro ?
[08:44] <histo> woozly: read only
[08:44] <histo> woozly: so you stop overwriting deleted files
[08:44] <woozly> but I'm on linode..
[08:44] <woozly> Linode servers
[08:44] <heidelfuchs> vboxnet is loaded
[08:44] <mae_tae> AAA: what you can see inside interfaces is    auto eth0  ... iface eth0 inet dhcp ......  auto eth1 .... iface eth1 inet dhcp
[08:44] <histo> !undelete | woozly
[08:44] <nikolam> ikonia, so your suggestioin is to reinstall machine? And not fixing the problem everyone seems to have with updating their LTS release?
[08:44] <woozly> Thank you! let's try...
[08:44] <histo> woozly: Don't save files to /tmp unless you want them gone on reboot
[08:45] <woozly> histo: yes.. now I know it :)
[08:45] <auronandace> nikolam: everyone?
[08:45] <AAA> mae_tae: you need to tail the servers dhcpd log as you renew the leases on the 2 interfaces on your host
[08:45] <mae_tae> AAA: actually if restart the dhcp server it returns an error, pc is already exist....
[08:45] <dr_willis> why woul you want to save to /tmp ?
[08:45] <histo> dr_willis: lol
[08:45] <mae_tae> AAA: i really dont dhcp.log in var/log....
[08:45] <mae_tae> *see
[08:45] <dr_willis> seems we have had 3-5 people in here the lasst week saveing documents to /tmp/ for some weird reaon
[08:45] <histo> dr_willis: This goes back to my people create their own problems and have to make things difficult
[08:45] <nikolam> auronandace, well,  suppose, since it is clean install , 2 times, what would be different, maybe to those that don't need to report bugs?
[08:46] <AAA> mae_tae: it is probably named something else.
[08:46] <Aesthetic> ahhh.  i just upgraded to 12.10....and Palimpsest is gone.  its this new horrid piece of crap.     is there a way i can downgrade to the old disk manager?
[08:46] <nikolam> auronandace, notice, it is problem with even Reporting bugs that is not working
[08:46] <ikonia> nikolam: why do you think "everyone" is having this problem ?
[08:46] <ikonia> nikolam: please do'nt make things up
[08:46]  * ejv giggles
[08:46] <AAA> mae_tae: tail -n44 /var/log/dhc<tb>
[08:46] <ikonia> nikolam: my suggestion is not re-install, my solution is to "fix it" but part of fixing is verifying the problem
[08:46] <AAA> mae_tae: tab, the <tb> means hit tab
[08:46] <nikolam> ikonia, since problem is I think with bug reporting not able to work, so they can not report bugs.
[08:46] <ikonia> nikolam: verifying you don't have the problem with a 12.04.2 install will prove it's part of the process
[08:47] <ikonia> nikolam: please don't make things up
[08:47] <nikolam> ikonia, so I reinstall as the part of the resolution? ok.
[08:47] <ikonia> nikolam: you have NO idea how many people are affcted
[08:47] <histo> !downgrade | Aesthetic
[08:47] <ikonia> nikolam: it is probably just you due to a package/config you have, as if it was EVERYONE people would be complaining all the time
[08:47] <Aesthetic> Aesthetic: i didnt say downgrade ubuntu.   i said disk manager
[08:47] <nikolam> but I think it could not fix bugs with updating LTS TO current release?
[08:47] <Aesthetic> the old Palimpsest.  i want it back
[08:47] <Aesthetic> it had a great way to manage my md volumes
[08:47] <ikonia> nikolam: so my suggestion is to do a 12.04.2 install and verify you don't have the problem, so we know where the problem is introduced
[08:47] <nikolam> ok, my package config is default.
[08:48]  * Genscher downloads the 6th iso of an ubuntu flavour
[08:48] <mae_tae> AAA: it seems that dhcp server, doesnt accept this host pc { hardware ....... , fixed-add......,  hardware, fixed-address } or host pc { hardware <newhardware> ..} host pc { hardware: <another hardware> } sorry, i really dont find dhcp in var log
[08:48] <nikolam> I will reinstall as you say and report ikoni
[08:48] <ikonia> Genscher: we don't need a commentary
[08:48] <ikonia> nikolam: this is only a test - not a solution
[08:48] <jimmy_lo_chien_f> Hi I just upgraded ubuntu from 11.10 to 12.10
[08:48] <ikonia> nikolam: we are verifying the problem
[08:48] <nikolam> ikonia, I CAN NOT VERIFY problem in previous release by installing newer release I think.
[08:48] <ikonia> nikolam: err you can
[08:48] <nikolam> ok, I will do it ikonia
[08:48] <ikonia> nikolam: I'm losing interest
[08:49] <ikonia> nikolam: you seem to want help but argue everything
[08:49] <histo> jimmy_lo_chien_f: How?
[08:49] <jimmy_lo_chien_f> but my nautilus has some problem when I try to connect to server
[08:49] <ikonia> nikolam: you'd verify if the problem is with the 12.04.2 packages or the upgrade processs by doing a clean install
[08:49] <Genscher> ikillcypher, well if one of the ubuntu's would work, you wouldn't need it, right.
[08:49] <histo> jimmy_lo_chien_f: You can't upgrade like that.
[08:49] <Genscher> @ ikonia
[08:49] <auronandace> jimmy_lo_chien_f: did you go from 11.10 to 12.10 directly or did you go through 12.04 first?
[08:49] <ikonia> nikolam: that's the point of doing a 12.0.4.2 install to verify if the problem is with the update process, or with the end results packages
[08:49] <histo> Genscher: What sort of problem are you having?
[08:49] <ikonia> Genscher: you don't need to anyway
[08:49] <nikolam> ikonia, i am losing interest in Ubuntu. I was using LTS since 8.04 and every time during updates over years some things got bad updated for some time, but not to this exent like in 12.04
[08:50] <jimmy_lo_chien_f> I upgraded to 12.04 first
[08:50] <nikolam> ikonia, ok i will and i will report. thanks
[08:50] <histo> nikolam: I haven't had the issues you are experiencing
[08:50] <ikonia> nikolam: don't use it them pick another distro if you don't like it
[08:50] <histo> jimmy_lo_chien_f: What sort of problems are you having connecting to a server?
[08:50] <ikonia> histo: everyone is having it, did you not read with nikolam everyone is having it, they just are not reporting it
[08:50] <AAA> mae_tae: does eth0 and eth1 have the defined IPs from your dhpd server? It sounds like you need a route to that network on the dhcpd server. also, is the switch that connects these 2 server using lacp?
[08:50]  * ejv grabs popcorn
[08:50] <Genscher> histo: nouveau crash with nvidia + hmdi
[08:51] <histo> Genscher: Have you tried using nvidia driver?
[08:51] <jimmy_lo_chien_f> Just like this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/87335/nautilus-cannot-load-supported-server-method-list-please-check-your-gvfs-inst
[08:51] <Aesthetic> so is there any way to get Palimpsest bck?
[08:51] <Aesthetic> *back
[08:51] <histo> Genscher: Also what is downloading different iso's going to solve?
[08:51] <jimmy_lo_chien_f> histo, I've followed the direction on the page. I still can't connect to server
[08:52] <mae_tae> yes.... i did assign fixed ip add in my dhcp server but it returns an error it says only 1 fixed address per host
[08:52] <Genscher> histo, well, i would if the installer on the live cd wouldn't crash because of this. And yes, trying another iso, just to be sure. Thanks for your help!
[08:52] <baumy> dr_willis: turns out installing slim more or less covered up my problem so im going to live with it
[08:52] <mae_tae> AAA:  yes.... i did assign fixed ip add in my dhcp server but it returns an error it says only 1 fixed address per host
[08:52] <histo> !nomodeset | Gentlecat_ No problem good luck
[08:52] <baumy> dr_willis: gave me a login manager in the middle of my dual screens, so visible if wonky
[08:52] <baumy> dr_willis: and it seems pretty easy to move it around so it fits
[08:52] <baumy> dr_willis: then x session starts properly. so thanks a bunch
[08:52] <histo> jimmy_lo_chien_f: What page?
[08:53] <jimmy_lo_chien_f> histo, this page, http://askubuntu.com/questions/87335/nautilus-cannot-load-supported-server-method-list-please-check-your-gvfs-inst
[08:53] <mae_tae> AAA: actually the first interface eth0 get its assign IP add, but the 2nd one does not
[08:53] <histo> jimmy_lo_chien_f: did you try the solutions on that page?
[08:53] <jimmy_lo_chien_f> histo, yes, I did
[08:54] <jimmy_lo_chien_f> I still cannot connect to server
[08:54] <AAA> mae_tae: the second interface is 'fake' and that may be your problem
[08:54] <histo> jimmy_lo_chien_f: I dont' evenhave the option to connect to sftp in nautilus
[08:54] <AAA> mae_tae: there is probably a work around for this, but I don't have it tonight. sorry
[08:54] <mae_tae> AAA: hehe, k thanks
[08:55] <jimmy_lo_chien_f> histo, File -> Connect to Sever
[08:55] <zlatan> hi I have two problems. 1. I can't reboot nor shutdown Ubuntu and http://askubuntu.com/questions/132143/stuck-on-reboot-and-shutdown doesn't help. 2. can't send files (both ways) nor browse my phone via bluetooth
[08:55] <histo> jimmy_lo_chien_f: yeap no sftp option there
[08:55] <mae_tae> AAA: no DHCPOFFERS received, no working leases in persistent database - sleeping...
[08:56] <ejv> zlatan: interesting!
[08:56] <histo> jimmy_lo_chien_f: however ctrl+l and typing sftp://server in the location bar works for me.
[08:56] <zlatan> ejv, not for me :)
[08:56] <ejv> zlatan: any external devices such as a UPS attached to your Ubuntu? i've seen instances in the past where a UPS could prevent a shutdown sequence, due to a bug in the daemon.
[08:57] <jimmy_lo_chien_f> histo, do you see "Connect to Server"?
[08:57] <histo> jimmy_lo_chien_f: Yea I found what you are talking about ssh in the connect to server dialog. That should be changed to sftp
[08:57] <histo> or sshfs or whatever nautilus is using
[08:57] <histo> jimmy_lo_chien_f: any how can you connect to he server via ssh in a terminal?
[08:57] <AAA> mae_tae: yeah, that is because it is looking to match IP with MAC, and eth0 already matches it.  I'm sure there is a soluttion to this, but la lalala
[08:58] <jimmy_lo_chien_f> I don't know how to connect to server via terminal
[08:58] <histo> jimmy_lo_chien_f: Is the server setup to answer ssh requests?
[08:58] <AAA> jimmy_lo_chien_f: minicom? screen?
[08:58] <zlatan> ejv, no, I have none UPS device attached to my Ubuntu
[08:58] <nickn4me> hola
[08:59] <Aesthetic> there has got to be a way to get back the good ol' Palimpsest in 12.10
[08:59] <jimmy_lo_chien_f> histo, AAA, I just use File -> Connect to Sever, it pops out warning dialog before I do anything further.
[09:00] <dr_willis> i would have just used gparted by now and moved on Aesthetic.. guess you could compile it from source if its not in the repos any more.. or in any ppas
[09:00] <mae_tae> AAA: huhuhu :'-(..... thanks
[09:04] <mae_tae> AAA: at last i solve it, heheh
[09:05] <AAA> mae_tae: do tell
[09:07] <mae_tae> AAA: i am just curios that all interfaces are all eth0, but when ifconfig it, there is that eth1
[09:11] <AAA> mae_tae: does ifconfig eth1 show an IP address? it thought you were working on eth0:[0-9]
[09:12] <mae_tae> AAA: i dont really have problem working with eth0, only on eth1, yes eth1 can now extract ip address from dhcp server
[09:13] <AAA> mae_tae: and  ethtool -S eth1 shows a connection? and all is well?
[09:13] <AAA> manybe it's ethool -s <interface?
[09:14] <Guest54876> How to share Folder , i'm using Ubuntu in Virtual Box , now i want to share the Folder with Windows XP
[09:14] <flashram> how can i remastersys with my ubuntu so it compiles a mips psp remastersys ? currently thers only uclinux busybox on psp
[09:14] <Guest54876> How to do it ?
[09:14] <AAA> Guest54876: read up on samba aka smb
[09:14] <nickn4me> sambashare...
[09:14] <dr_willis> Guest54876:  the vbox manual discusses the special vbox shares also.
[09:14] <ejv> Guest54876: google: https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?t=15868
[09:15] <Jarris> someone familiar with remmina? i would like to remotly use the desktop of an other ubuntu worksation in lan. remmina with vnc just sayes "connecting to ..." but nothing further happens. any hints for me?
[09:15] <nickn4me> Jarris: check with wireshark whats going wrong
[09:15] <flashram> how to use ubuntu to remaster the current versions for exotic psp
[09:16] <dr_willis> i think that may be beyond the scope of this channel flashram .
[09:18] <AAA> flashram: so you want to run tubescripts?
[09:18] <Viliny> im running the livecd of ubuntu here, i have a sata drive connected - it's ntfs or fat32
[09:18] <Viliny> used to be an external usb drive that i opened and inserted the disk into this laptop
[09:19] <Viliny> how can i see it? and does the livecd automount ntfs?
[09:19] <AAA> Viliny: start with $ mount
[09:20] <AAA> Viliny: then dmesg |tail -n 44
[09:21] <yown> Does ubuntu partition with GPT by default? And can windows only read GPT if my motherboard is UEFI capable? Does that mean if I don't have a UEFI capable MoBo, and use linux default partitioning, I can not dual boot with windows?
[09:22] <BenDeBen> yown, may i could suggest to install only ubuntu :)
[09:22] <BenDeBen> And then try Virtual Machines with windows
[09:23] <yown> BenDeBen: Whether I do or not, please answer the question
[09:23] <Viliny> AAA ican't see the device on mount
[09:23] <BenDeBen> I'm trying :) But i'm french
[09:23] <Viliny> AAA fdisk -l does nothing
[09:24] <dr_willis> sudo fdisk -l
[09:24] <Viliny> yeah, i sudoed it, nothing
[09:24] <AAA> Viliny: it sounds like the system doesn't see your drive
[09:24] <nickn4me> BenDeBen: its nonsense zu suggest this. as he asked for a dual boot... there are several reaons to run win not in a vm...
[09:24] <Viliny> AAA bios detected it
[09:24] <nickn4me> zu/to
[09:25] <AAA> Viliny: whast is this device? unplug and replug should give some clues int dmessg (dmesg|tail()
[09:25] <AAA> Viliny: the Operating 'system' doesn't see it
[09:26] <nickn4me> yown: im pretty sure, win needs the MBR. no MBR = no boot
[09:26] <FeelQuilty> hello
[09:26] <Viliny> AAA i just took the usb controller from the disk and tried with another disk i had here... adds the device to windows - must be the other drive itself thats faulty
[09:26] <FeelQuilty> join #backtrack-fr
[09:26] <nickn4me> yown: just install windowze first then ubuntu
[09:26] <Viliny> AAA any deeper way of getting ANY information about the drive?
[09:26] <FeelQuilty> what this command to
[09:27] <FeelQuilty> change forum
[09:27] <FeelQuilty> plz
[09:27] <Ben64> FeelQuilty: what
[09:27] <FeelQuilty> i want join the forum
[09:27] <FeelQuilty> backtrack fr
[09:27] <TakeItEZ> FeelQuilty:  /join #backtrack-fr
[09:27] <dr_willis> !backtrack | FeelQuilty
[09:27] <FeelQuilty> don't work
[09:28] <AAA> Viliny: in linux, hdparm  will give you lots of info
[09:28] <Ben64> you need a / before join
[09:28] <dr_willis> FeelQuilty:  this is not the main network used by the backtrack devs either..
[09:28] <dr_willis> !bt
[09:28] <Ben64> and its not a forum, this is a chat
[09:28] <FeelQuilty> i know
[09:28] <AAA> Viliny: hdparm -I /dev/<DEVICE>
[09:28] <dr_willis> look at your irc client for messages as to why you cant join .
[09:29] <FeelQuilty> ben don't work
[09:29] <FeelQuilty> this command
[09:29] <FeelQuilty>  / join #backtrack-fr
[09:29] <FeelQuilty> don't work
[09:29] <nickn4me> FeelQuilty: ---> /help
[09:29] <TakeItEZ> FeelQuilty: no space
[09:29] <nickn4me> read it carefully
[09:29] <FeelQuilty> lol i know
[09:29] <yown> nickn4me: Then I am stuck with crappy MBR I guess
[09:29] <FeelQuilty> its for you
[09:29] <AAA> s/\ //g
[09:29] <TakeItEZ> FeelQuilty: then ask in #freenode
[09:29] <FeelQuilty> to see
[09:29] <FeelQuilty> ok
[09:30] <nickn4me> yFeeyour nick needs to be reigstered, otherwise youre not able to join that channel.
[09:30] <nickn4me> "registered
[09:30] <FeelQuilty> what
[09:30] <FeelQuilty> no
[09:30] <nickn4me> register your nick...
[09:30] <TakeItEZ> !register | FeelQuilty
[09:30] <FeelQuilty> ah ok
[09:30] <Viliny> AAA seems like the drive is powering up, the getting a clicking sound for a while and then gives up and powers down :(
[09:30] <AAA> never register your nick! it's a trap!!!
[09:30] <nickn4me> AAA: ...
[09:30] <dr_willis> the cake is a lie
[09:31] <nickn4me> :D
[09:31] <AAA> freenode is build on folks that die in car wrecks!
[09:31] <TakeItEZ> !fud | AAA
[09:31] <AAA> a folk
[09:31] <nickn4me> AAA: back to topic...
[09:31] <booboo> help! my VLC plays movies this way:  http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/824/screenshot1zk.png/ im using ubuntu karmic.
[09:32] <Ben64> booboo: try in another player?
[09:32] <nickn4me> mplayer (smplayer) ftow :>
[09:32] <nickn4me> ftw
[09:32] <booboo> Ben64: it plays fine in movie player
[09:32] <booboo> its just the vlc that does that
[09:33] <Ben64> then its vlc's settings or a bug or something
[09:33] <dr_willis> or that vpadu feature in vlc.
[09:33] <dr_willis> id try with a newer vlc from the ppas
[09:33] <booboo> Ben64: yeah... any ideas on how to fix it? :)
[09:34] <nickn4me> vdpau only for nvidia, aight :>
[09:34] <booboo> hmmm... dr_willis: sounds good...
[09:34] <booboo> dr_willis: trying that now.. thanks.
[09:37] <yown> Does ubuntu partition with GPT by default? And can windows only read GPT if my motherboard is UEFI capable? Does that mean if I don't have a UEFI capable MoBo, and use linux default partitioning, I can not dual boot with windows?
[09:37] <dr_willis> i dont recall ubuntu using gpt by default.
[09:38] <nickn4me> "And can windows only read GPT if my motherboard is UEFI capable?" wrong channel, isnt it?
[09:38] <dr_willis> try it in a vbox session and see what it does with the default partioning/install
[09:38] <nickn4me> and no, windows cant...
[09:38] <nickn4me> like i said before
[09:42] <tasslehoff> is there a way to make Print Screen also copy to clipboard?
[09:42] <VinceThePrince> I've installed sublime text 2 via this link: http://www.technoreply.com/how-to-install-sublime-text-2-on-ubuntu-12-04-unity/ but now it's acting strange for example it keeps opening the sublime.desktop file instead of my latest project etc..
[09:43] <Guest54876> Is there any tutorial i can follow on setting up a shared folder ... I'm kind of lost here
[09:44] <dr_willis> Guest54876:  for vbox.. theres the b vbox manual.. then theres the simople right click on a folder.. and select share.. method in ubuntu
[09:44] <dr_willis> vbox guest addations allow a special share feature
[09:44] <dr_willis> or ssetup samba shares
[09:45] <jesusabdullah> hello friends! I have an aspire one that black screens on boot after installing stock ubuntu
[09:45] <Guest54876> I did that it's not working it says protocol error
[09:45] <jesusabdullah> in the past I had graphics trouble with it, it has one of those bad intel graphics cards
[09:45] <jesusabdullah> worst thing: no terminal even with ctrl-alt-fkey
[09:45] <DJones> !nomodeset | jesusabdullah This may help for a black screen at boot,
[09:46] <dr_willis> Guest54876:  you did what exactly?
[09:47] <jesusabdullah> DJones: That looks promising, lemme give it a shot :) thx
[09:47] <Guest54876> https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?t=15868
[09:47] <Guest54876> i followed this link
[09:47] <Guest54876> https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?t=15868
[09:47] <DJones> jesusabdullah: Good luck with that, its not something I've needed so can't help beyond giving you the link, but if it doesn't, come back and I'm sure somebody else will be able to help
[09:47] <nickn4me> Guest54876: http://www.unixmen.com/howto-install-and-configure-samba-share-in-ubuntu/
[09:52] <jesusabdullah> DJones: Doesn't look like it worked :/ I do see a [fail] on "load fallback graphics devices" tho0ugh
[09:52] <DJones> jesusabdullah: It was removing a ban
[09:52] <jesusabdullah> nonono I mean nomodeset
[09:52] <DJones> Ah sorry, thought you were talking at the last thing I did
[09:52] <jesusabdullah> yeah sorry
[09:53] <jesusabdullah> okay so with and without nomodereset I get listings of init stuff
[09:53] <jesusabdullah> but no term and no graphics
[09:53] <DJones> jesusabdullah: If you give a bit more detail, graphics card etc, hopefully somebody can help you
[09:53] <jesusabdullah> okay hold on
[09:54] <jesusabdullah> Okay the laptop in question is a http://www.cnet.com/laptops/acer-aspire-one-d270/4505-3121_7-35149130.html
[09:54] <jesusabdullah> that exact model
[09:55] <shomon> hi, skype just dies each time I run it, no error or message, it just launches for a few seconds, nothing appears on screen, and then it goes.
[09:55] <shomon> launching from terminal that is
[09:55] <DJones> jesusabdullah: I've been lucky with Intel graphics, I've always bought something I know will work
[09:56] <jesusabdullah> It's one of these http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1693384
[09:56] <jesusabdullah> a bad 2 week run or something idk
[09:56] <jesusabdullah> different architecture
[09:56] <jesusabdullah> than the usual
[09:56] <jesusabdullah> "regular" intel chips usually rock
[09:56] <jesusabdullah> oh exccept I don't want 3d I want *any* graphicd
[09:56] <jesusabdullah> graphics* sorry new keyboard
[09:58] <jesusabdullah> aack this isn't xmonad
[09:59] <jesusabdullah> okay bbiaf, if anyone has any ideas for my poor laptop that would be great :) Thanks DJones for trying
[10:01] <DJones> jesusabdullah: Out of interest, which version of Ubuntu are you trying to get working
[10:04] <jesusabdullah> DJones: 64 bit vanilla 12.10
[10:04] <jesusabdullah> that's the new one right?
[10:04] <jesusabdullah> ]unity's not bad btw I wish it was more customizable but other than that... :)
[10:05] <DJones> yes it is, I was going to suggest maybe trying a later version, but as you're already using that, its not worth it, I thought maybe a newer version would support it
[10:05] <Guest54876> no luck
[10:05] <DJones> I did find this       not worth it, I thought maybe a newer version would support it
[10:06] <DJones> jesusabdullah: I did find this, https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=714406 last post on page 1 has a suggestion of using "acpi_osi=Linux" as a parameter
[10:07] <jesusabdullah> DJones: thanks
[10:12] <max451f> hi there!
[10:12] <max451f> Anyone can help me?
[10:13] <DJones> !anyone | max451f
[10:14] <Aesthetic> so is there any freaking way i can get back palimpsest after upgrading to 12.10?
[10:16] <max451f> ok, thanks. just tring to be polite:)
[10:16] <max451f> I had a problem: my laptop turns on after shutdown, if wireless adapter is on. If I turn off wireless by hardware swith and shutdown my laptop - all good, it dosn't starts automaticly. But, if I shutdown my laptop when wireless is intact, it starts automaticly on few seconds
[10:17] <ania_> Max45 i think there is setting in bios to autoreboot in wifi up
[10:18] <ania_> im not sure
[10:18] <ania_> it doesnt nessesery is ubuntu
[10:18] <ania_> that cause problem
[10:18] <max451f> in BIOS no Wake on LAN setting. Also, in wireless adapter this option is disabled
[10:19] <max451f> In win7 problem dosn't exist
[10:19] <max451f> so, it's a linux issue. currently I use 12.10
[10:19] <ania_> try to put enable and reboot maybe.....just for try
[10:23] <DocPlatypus> hi... I'm trying to figure out what is left on my system that keeps setting the MAC address AA:00:04:00:0A:04 which I don't want... I have removed libdnet and dnet-common and that didn't help
[10:24] <histo> DocPlatypus: is it a virtual machine?
[10:25] <DocPlatypus> histo: no, it is real physical hardware
[10:26] <histo> DocPlatypus: are you using macchanger or configuring the mac with ifconfig?
[10:26] <VinceThePrince> How do I remove this nasty border from conky : http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-02262013-112501am.php
[10:26] <DocPlatypus> histo: not to my knowledge.
[10:26] <histo> DocPlatypus: How did you set the mac to that?
[10:26] <DocPlatypus> histo: I don't know what is setting the MAC to that. that is what I want to find and get rid of.
[10:27] <DocPlatypus> I found out about this DECnet junk from STFW. that's where I found out I should be able to just remove libdnet, libdnet-dev, and dnet-common
[10:28] <nearst> hi ppl
[10:29] <malfunc> hi
[10:29] <brody19> 试试输中文会不会被打
[10:30] <malfunc> i dont know chinese mate :-)
[10:31] <brody19> well,my eng is poor
[10:31] <malfunc> mine either
[10:31] <DJones> !cn | brody19 There is a Chinese language channel that may be better,
[10:31] <friend> pls how do i update the wine in my bactrack?
[10:32] <DJones> !backtrack | friend
[10:34] <ruliezz> Hi everybody
[10:34] <friend> PLs i don't want to log in as root can u help me?
[10:34] <ruliezz> how is it possible to  configer Xorg so that 4 screens is 1 big screen
[10:34] <DocPlatypus> okay... think I finally figured it out
[10:35] <DJones> friend: We don't support Backtrack in here, you need to join #backtrack-linux for support
[10:35] <dr_willis> ruliezz:  that sould be doable.. depending on your video chipset and drivers
[10:35] <DocPlatypus> and the trick is: look under /etc/NetworkManager and rm any file that has that Ethernet "address" in it
[10:35] <DocPlatypus> then: sudo service network-mananger stop
[10:36] <DocPlatypus> wait a few seconds, and then: sudo service network-manager start
[10:36] <ruliezz> dr_willis if this is possible how do you config that then?
[10:36] <DocPlatypus> sheesh. you'd think someone would have figured that one out by now and my STFW would have found it.
[10:37] <dr_willis> ruliezz:  for nvidia cards.. use the nvidia-settings tool and the twinview features
[10:38] <ruliezz> dr_willis i'll check it
[10:46] <ax562> anyone know of a good ubuntu app to burn blu-ray data disks?
[10:47] <dr_willis> k3b perhaps
[10:48] <ax562> didn't see an option for blu-ray..dvd and cd only..but not a k3b master though.
[10:48] <dr_willis> if k3b cant do it.. i cant imagine what else could then...
[10:49] <ax562> @drw by the way I appreciate all the knowledge you provide.thanks
[10:49] <ax562> gotcha...best bet then.
[10:49] <dr_willis> k3b is about the most feature full burning app on linux
[10:49] <DJones> ax562: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CdDvd/Burning#Blu-Ray_Burning
[10:49] <dr_willis> i havent burnt disks in years. ;)
[10:49] <DJones> ax562: That says that the only GUI app is NeroLinux
[10:49] <dr_willis> if that even works on ubuntu any more
[10:49] <ax562> I have that and onther fire app..but couldn't figure out...only spent minutes though and got side tracked..
[10:49] <dr_willis> not seen nerolinux mentioned in ages
[10:50] <ax562> never heard of it either
[10:50] <DJones> ax562: Bottom of the page also mentions a command line method
[10:50] <ax562> I burn blu-rays constantly in windows...1:1 back up bluray copies...
[10:51] <ax562> video only
[10:51] <histo> ax562: Not sure if wodim but it's a console app
[10:51] <histo> ax562: and you can check out brasero
[10:51] <ax562> ahh...thanks
[10:51] <ax562> thats' the other one I use
[10:52] <histo> ax562: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CdDvd/Burning
[10:52] <ax562> mostly for cd burning for music...product I try to sell/promote music with
[10:52] <ax562> but couldn't figure out blu-ray burning
[10:53] <ax562> I have an external blu-ray oem drive wich never had firmware upgrade support..oem
[10:53] <histo> ax562: that page has instructions for blu-ray
[10:54] <dr_willis> hmm. i never even done much dual layer dvd burning when i finally got a DL dvd. ;)
[10:54] <dr_willis> just decided to backup to external USB hds was easier
[10:55] <histo> Yeah i've moved away from optical media completely
[10:55] <ikillcypher> root@ikillcypher:~/build# ./envsetup.sh
[10:55] <ikillcypher> bash: ./envsetup.sh: Permission denied
[10:55] <ikillcypher> guys ?
[10:55] <dr_willis> make sure its executable
[10:55] <dr_willis> and the first line is correxct of that file
[10:56] <ikillcypher> yes it is
[10:56] <ax562> wow...that was perfect...terminal is always what i prefer either way...
[10:56] <ax562> yeah, reason I like is quality and hard copy can't be lost if hd takes dump
[10:57] <ax562> learned this the hard way
[10:57] <dr_willis> ive found optical disks are not as durable as they say.
[10:57] <dr_willis> but i guess it depends on the disk brands.
[10:57] <ax562> hitachi, seagate.....NIGHTMARE ON ELMSTREET.YIKES.
[10:57] <ax562> i use high to low verbatim
[10:57] <ax562> best on the market imho
[10:58] <ikillcypher> damn what wrong with this shit\
[10:58] <dr_willis> look at the  reduction in costs on the stuff its mazeing it works as well as they do
[10:58] <dr_willis> ikillcypher:  where did thqt .sh ccome from?
[10:58] <ikillcypher> cyanogenmod
[10:58] <ikillcypher> android
[10:58] <ax562> I bought two 2tb externals and both took dumps...even replaced the seagate to recieve a brand new model that sounded like it was grinding whole almonds after 1 week.
[10:59] <ax562> western digital is the only way to spindle ;)
[10:59] <dr_willis> ikillcypher:  be sure it dosent have wonky dos type encodeing also
[10:59] <mayur> exit
[10:59] <mayur> :x
[10:59] <ikillcypher> how ?
[10:59] <histo> ikillcypher: chmod a+x envsetup.sh
[11:00] <dr_willis> i recall some text editors can show white-space type lines..
[11:00] <ax562> yeah the htl manufacturing technology is what is best and reduced cost by a lot
[11:00] <dr_willis> dos uses a cr+lf   linux wants just a lf (or was it just a cr)
[11:00] <dr_willis> ive had people fight with scripts they got from a windows/notepad.exe user.. that had the issue
[11:00] <ax562> by the way I gave up on my 12.04 install for now...
[11:00] <dr_willis> theres a dos2linux command
[11:01] <TakeItEZ> dos2unix
[11:01] <ikillcypher> nothing nothing appears
[11:02] <histo> ikillcypher: after chmod command now try running the script
[11:02] <ikillcypher> now it is not working
[11:02] <histo> what error?
[11:03]  * dr_willis wonders why people think the phrase 'not working' really tells us anything.. ;)
[11:03] <jesusabdullah> at least you aren't under the mistaken impression that it's working right?
[11:03] <TakeItEZ> it tells us: ignore me, i don't want your help
[11:03] <ikillcypher> damn man
[11:04] <ikillcypher> ok listen Im new to Ubuntu I have ditch windows 7
[11:04] <TakeItEZ> !language | ikillcypher
[11:04] <dr_willis> i think geany text editor can show line endings
[11:04] <ikillcypher> now I want to build android for my phone I have been issues
[11:04] <ikillcypher> one min I can mkdir one min I need to be a root user etc it is confusing
[11:04] <ikillcypher> now I dont even now how to move folder to the correct folder
[11:04] <dr_willis> to mess with system files you need root..
[11:05] <ikillcypher> how do I move a folder to another folder
[11:05] <ikillcypher> in windows it is just copy and paste
[11:05] <ikillcypher> but Ubuntu I cant
[11:05] <histo> ikillcypher: mv directory tonewdirectory
[11:05] <ikillcypher> or cut and paste
[11:05] <jrib> ikillcypher: what folders?
[11:05] <histo> ikillcypher: gksu nautilus     BE VERY CAREFULL WITH THIS
[11:06] <TakeItEZ> ikillcypher: why do you work as root?
[11:06] <histo> ikillcypher: also you should ask your android related questions in #android
[11:06] <dr_willis> ive definatly seen in windows where you dont just copy/paste. :)
[11:08] <dr_willis> if the files came from some windows archicved the encodeing could be incorrect
[11:08] <ikillcypher> I move already
[11:08] <ikillcypher> but the files are still visiable in my home user
[11:09] <dr_willis> if you are going to be doing android development. i think you may want to up your bash skills first.
[11:09] <ikillcypher> I just want to build
[11:10] <ikillcypher> :'( why is it so hard
[11:10] <dr_willis> you have to know how to hold a hammer to hit a nail...
[11:10] <ikillcypher> why I move the files it is still visible in my home folder
[11:10] <tinker> 6
[11:10] <TakeItEZ> lets assume you didn#t move them
[11:10] <dr_willis> did you reload/refresh the view of the file manager? perhaps you just copied...
[11:10] <cfhowlett> ikillcypher, because you didn't move them.  you copied them?
[11:11] <ikillcypher> I cut and paste
[11:11] <ikillcypher> in gksu nautilus it is listed correctly
[11:11] <ikillcypher> but when I go back normally and see my home it is still the same order
[11:12] <ax562> you have to crawl before you walk
[11:12] <ikillcypher> and each of the folder has a like  a lock in it
[11:12] <dr_willis> why are you needing to mess with these files as root?
[11:12] <TakeItEZ> ikillcypher: why do you work as root?
[11:12] <ikillcypher> I have no idea
[11:12] <ikillcypher> cause
[11:13] <red_baron_777> hello
[11:13] <ax562_> ubuntu could be messy out of the box but once you tighten some lose screw its pretty great
[11:13] <TakeItEZ> ikillcypher: if you don't have any idea, you don't work as root
[11:13] <dr_willis> well i would suggest that unless you KNOW you need to do it as root... you use stuff as a user
[11:13] <cfhowlett> red_baron_777, greetings
[11:13] <ikillcypher> when I did this command normally
[11:13] <ikillcypher> curl https://dl-ssl.google.com/dl/googlesource/git-repo/repo > ~/bin/repo
[11:13] <ax562_> lol
[11:13] <red_baron_777> how can I close the ps aux | less command?
[11:13] <cfhowlett> ikillcypher, dude.  less keying, more reading.
[11:13] <ikillcypher> I got access denided
[11:13] <dr_willis>  ~/bin is a file in your users home directory
[11:13] <cfhowlett> red_baron_777, coontrol c
[11:13] <dr_willis> you make that directory 'mkdir bin'
[11:13] <cfhowlett> control c
[11:13] <ikillcypher> I did
[11:13] <dr_willis> no  need for root at all
[11:14] <ikillcypher> when I did mkdir -p ~/bin
[11:14] <red_baron_777> it doesn't let me with ctrl C
[11:14] <red_baron_777> I'm using putty
[11:14] <ikillcypher> it is default had a lock in it
[11:14] <TakeItEZ> red_baron_777: q
[11:14] <red_baron_777> TY
[11:14] <woozly> guys, which right way to run service on boot?
[11:14] <woozly> Not including to rc.local
[11:14] <woozly> other way?
[11:14] <mujahidin> m
[11:15] <ikillcypher> when I did mkdir -p ~/bin
[11:15] <ikillcypher> it is default had a lock in it
[11:15] <cfhowlett> red_baron_777, control z
[11:15] <ax562> ok..im out..you guys have a good night/morning..bye
[11:15] <dr_willis> ikillcypher:  then you did it as root for ssome reason
[11:15] <TakeItEZ> cfhowlett: "q" is the command to quit less
[11:15] <red_baron_777> with q it worked
[11:15] <red_baron_777> TY
[11:16] <red_baron_777> does somebody know an OpenERP irc channel?
[11:16] <cfhowlett> TakeItEZ, thanks.  that's even better
[11:16] <red_baron_777> or somebody has experience securing OpenERP with proxy?
[11:16] <DJones> !alis | red_baron_777 I've never seen one mentioned, but the bot should be able to help you find one,
[11:16] <ikillcypher> dr_willis, so what do I now
[11:16] <ikillcypher> remove everything which I cant
[11:17] <dr_willis> ikillcypher:  if its owned by root.. you need sudo/root rights
[11:17] <dr_willis> sudo rm /home/yourusername/bin
[11:17] <dr_willis> then remake it as your user
[11:17] <red_baron_777> does some software ease putting shortcuts on Ubuntu 12.04 desktop?
[11:17] <ikillcypher> I will just delete everything and redo
[11:17] <TakeItEZ> ikillcypher: if a folder you create is root-owned, you created it as root. so stop using a root-shell or sudo
[11:18] <branko> Hello. I've configured the static IP address on Ubuntu 12.04 using the /etc/network/interfaces. The server is on a network with a DHCP server, but I want it to be statically configured. The problem I'm having is that upon a boot, or periodically, the server will suddenly run dhclient, which will change the IP address from the static one.
[11:18] <branko> What would be the official way to disable automatic invocation of dhcp client?
[11:18] <dr_willis> red_baron_777:  the whole idea of shortcuts on the desktop is sort of  old school and slowly going away. you can make .desktop files and copy them to your Desktop folder if you wanteed to.
[11:18] <branko> (I've seen a couple of guides out there, but all of those seem quite dirty to me, so I'm wondering if there's some sane/simple way to go about it)
[11:18] <dr_willis> red_baron_777:  many window managers/desktop enviroments dont even show thise icons any more
[11:19] <Physicist> !slackware
[11:19] <red_baron_777> ok, but instead of desktop shortcuts where I can store my shortcuts (I have about 30)
[11:19] <Guest9411> hi
[11:19] <dr_willis> red_baron_777:  what kind of shortcuts>
[11:19] <ikillcypher> dr_willis can you help me out here
[11:19] <Physicist>  cannot configure my f** 3g modem..
[11:19] <dr_willis> make a directory in your home.. keep them there
[11:19] <red_baron_777> mostly for programs
[11:19] <dr_willis> ikillcypher:  details please..
[11:19] <ikillcypher> /home/ikillcypher/abi how do I remove it
[11:19] <Guest9411> yo
[11:20] <dr_willis> red_baron_777:  theres the home directory
[11:20] <ikillcypher> I cant use shift+del
[11:20] <cfhowlett> Guest9411, greetings
[11:20] <ikillcypher> permission denided
[11:20] <dr_willis> ikillcypher:  i gave the CLI command earlier
[11:20] <Physicist> How can I install a 3g modem without wvstreams or other thing like that?
[11:20] <dr_willis> sudo rm /home/yourusername/bin
[11:20] <red_baron_777> ok, and in home directory what can I do?
[11:20] <Physicist> wvdial is available too.. But, do not work.
[11:20] <dr_willis> red_baron_777:  make a bin directory akd keep stuff in there
[11:21] <ikillcypher> rm: cannot remove `/home/ikillcypher/bin': Is a directory
[11:21] <dr_willis>  then you use rmdir
[11:21] <red_baron_777> so every time when I want to open fast a program, first I must open that directory's window?
[11:21] <ikillcypher> rmdir: failed to remove `/home/ikillcypher/bin': Directory not empty
[11:21] <ikillcypher> wtf
[11:22] <dr_willis> red_baron_777:  whats are your shortcuts exactly>
[11:22]  * ikillcypher feel like reinstall his whole Ubuntu >:(
[11:22] <dr_willis> ikillcypher:  makes perfect sence...
[11:22] <dr_willis> rmdir  deletes empty dirs..
[11:22] <dr_willis> rm -rf /path/to/dir  will delete it ALL  and dont do any typos with that command
[11:23] <ikillcypher> rm -rf /home/ikillcypher/bin ?
[11:23] <dr_willis> yes. if thats the correct path
[11:23] <ikillcypher> haha its gone
[11:23] <ikillcypher> xD
[11:25] <red_baron_777> ex. putty shortcut, freefilesync batch shortcuts, netbeans shortcut, etc
[11:25] <dr_willis> red_baron_777:  when you say shortcut what do you mean exactly
[11:26] <Physicist> i cannot run the installer of my 3G modem.. KDE do not accept? Why...
[11:26] <Physicist> ?
[11:26] <cfhowlett> Physicist, what errors are you getting?
[11:27] <woozly> guys, how to add custom service to 'service <servicename> command' ?
[11:27] <woozly> where to read?
[11:27] <red_baron_777> shortcut to an installed software's executable, shortcut to a document or batch file
[11:28] <Physicist> No error.. the software include an assistant to connect.. Just do not open.
[11:28] <bilou23> hi, I wanted to add myself to a group, I think I've done a mistake, now I'm not in the admin group anymore, I can't do "sudo .." commands because I'm not in the sudoers file, and I can't add myself to it because the tutorials I see for that are requiring to use "sudo adduser ...", I don't know the root password, (strangely it's not the same than me)...
[11:28] <Physicist> or startx
[11:28] <Physicist> **start
[11:28] <Koshka> Hi, I'm using 12.04 and I just updated Firefox to 19.0. With that, FF seemed to lose tab grouping functionality and for once, Google didn't have similar problems and solutions. Can anyone tell me if this'd be specific to me or does the latest version have a bug of this magnitude?
[11:29] <ikillcypher> how do I remove more then one
[11:29] <ikillcypher> like
[11:29] <ikillcypher> rm -rf /home/ikillcypher/bin and there is like dalvik folder , android folder
[11:29] <cfhowlett> Physicist, so connection ran properly but you can't connect?  run the executable from the command line and see what feedback you get
[11:29] <ikillcypher> do I have to do rm -rf /home/ikillcypher/bin each time for each folde r?
[11:30] <dr_willis> ikillcypher:  err,, that deletes a folder.. with all contents.. if thats what you want to do...
[11:30] <ikillcypher> yes there are others folder too
[11:31] <ikillcypher> all which are 1GB so I want to remove others too
[11:31] <dr_willis> be sure  you dont delete stuff you want to keep.
[11:31] <ikillcypher> and not wait like for rm -rf /home/ikillcypher/bin to be done then do rm -rf /home/ikillcypher/android follow by rm -rf /home/ikillcypher/dalvik
[11:31] <cfhowlett> ikillcypher, that is the safest method
[11:34] <ikillcypher> can I do like
[11:34] <ikillcypher> rm -rf /home/ikillcypher/bin && rm -rf /home/ikillcypher/dalivik ?
[11:34] <dr_willis> bash basics,,,,, yes
[11:34] <dr_willis> if you read some bash guides you will find shorter ways to do that
[11:34] <dr_willis> cd
[11:34] <dr_willis> rm -rf dir1 dir2 dir3
[11:35] <ikillcypher> huh you dont need , or && ?
[11:35] <dr_willis> time for a  'man rm'
[11:35] <ikillcypher> dont get you mate
[11:35] <dr_willis> read the docs for rm
[11:35] <dr_willis> 'man rm'  and read the example ussage
[11:36] <alphAEcho> Helle everyone here
[11:36] <alphAEcho> i have a question about PXE server on Ubuntu 12.04
[11:36] <cfhowlett> alphAEcho, greetings
[11:36] <alphAEcho> is anyone that can help me with that?
[11:37] <alphAEcho> hay cfhowlett?
[11:37] <alphAEcho> do you know anything about PXE servers?
[11:37] <bilou23> instead of adding myself to a group, I've removed myself from all the groups, now I'm only in 1 group, I don't have any other user (apart root), I don't know root password (apparently it's an auto-generated hash), is there a way to sort this out?
[11:37] <DJones> alphAEcho: If you give details of what the problem is, people may be able to help
[11:38] <alphAEcho> ok i know my DHCP is working
[11:38] <alphAEcho> it is giving IP addressess to servers
[11:38] <Aesthetic> is there ANY way to get Palimpsest on 12.10?
[11:38] <alphAEcho> i started the tftpd
[11:38] <cfhowlett> alphAEcho, sorry IDK.  #ubuntu-server maybe?  but ask here first.
[11:39] <alphAEcho> thank you cfhowlett
[11:40] <alphAEcho> so when the other server that i want to install proxmox on it gets the ip from the PXE server it gives PXE-E11 ARP timeout and PXE-E38 TFTP can't open a connection
[11:41] <alphAEcho> i was constatnly looking if there is something wrong with my config files but can't find something
[11:41] <alphAEcho> so i came to ask someone for help if anyone had this problem
[11:41] <SuperRoach> Good evening. I've just noticed my 12.10 ubuntu, apps  has lost their menu with the min/close icons. http://i.imgur.com/SCFC43t.png What can I use to restore it?
[11:43] <dr_willis> you mean the windows titlebar and decorations?
[11:44] <dr_willis> compiz crashed. restart it or log out/back in
[11:45] <red_baron_777> pls tell me someone where can I store my shortcuts to have them together and to be accessed easily
[11:45] <dr_willis> makd a shortcuts directory and keep them in your home.. is one common way
[11:46] <dr_willis> linux dosent really use shortcuts.. so you mean either bash scripts. or links. or .desktop files
[11:46] <needhelp1> hey, whats the best way to get a large amazon music collection onto ubuntu. im assuming rythmbox doesnt have native support
[11:49] <woozly> guys, how to decrease Ubuntu Server boot time?
[11:49] <cfhowlett> woozly, perhaps better to ask in #ubuntu-server   ...
[11:49] <woozly> oh.. yeah.. thanks!
[11:51] <histo> needhelp1: Why wouldn't rythmbox support mp3's?
[11:51] <dr_willis> get a ssd  ;)
[11:51] <dr_willis> histo:  it needs a extra package installed i imagine
[11:51] <needhelp1> histo: well, its more so about downloading the music purchases from amazon
[11:51] <histo> red_baron_777: You can add stuff "bookmarks" in nautilus
[11:51] <dr_willis> isent there an amazon drive tool that stores your muzak?
[11:52] <histo> needhelp1: I believe you can download them from your amazon drive. They should be DRM free also
[11:52] <needhelp1> "On Linux systems, Cloud Player only supports downloading songs one at a  time. To download your music, deselect all checkboxes, select the  checkbox for the song you want to download, then click the "Download"  button.          "
[11:52] <cfhowlett> dr_willis, amazon downloader for linux moves 1 file at a time ...
[11:52] <needhelp1> i have a lot of music i need to d/l
[11:53] <dr_willis> get busy then! ;)
[11:53] <dr_willis> i got a whole 1 album on amazon music.. because they added it to my collection from when i bought a cd like 3 yrs ago...
[11:53] <dr_willis> which was nice of them actually
[11:53] <needhelp1> integrated search, i figured amazon music purchases might be integrated into unity / rythmbox also
[11:54] <histo> needhelp1: they maybe
[11:54] <dr_willis> needhelp1:  it could happen i imagine.. an amazon music lens perhaps.
[11:54] <histo> needhelp1: why are you downloading it anyway? why not stream it.
[11:54] <needhelp1> need to burn some stuff to a cd
[11:54] <needhelp1> i found this http://code.google.com/p/clamz/   looks like its broken though
[11:56] <histo> needhelp1: http://askubuntu.com/questions/33158/how-to-download-songs-from-amazons-cloud-player
[11:56] <catphish> if i want to use linux 3 on ubuntu 10.04 is there a meta package?
[11:56] <histo> needhelp1: looks like rhythmbox can do amazon's mp3 store
[11:57] <histo> err banshee
[11:57] <histo> that's an old one
[11:57] <workless> hi! i've a weird problem: when compiling source code with ant it just die without giving ANY error, wether debug or verbose mode. this doesn't happen if i run it as ROOT, why??
[11:57] <needhelp1> histo: also, the cloud player has been updated with that one song limit, banshee was mearly using the online site
[11:58] <Russ> I downloaded Ubuntu 12.04 last night off the canonical website and I'm trying to install it inside my windows using wubi.exe which I've done before but a couple of years ago. It was busy downloading an update which I just let run but now hours later (my internet is slow) my domestic worker
[11:58] <Russ> accidentally knocked my LAN cable out the router. Is there any way I can resume the download that has stopped or is there a way I can install and tell wubi.exe NOT to download the update first? Thanks in advance.
[11:58] <histo> needhelp1: doesnt' aamazon provide you with a way of downloading your own music?
[11:58] <histo> needhelp1: This isn't really ubuntu related question
[11:58] <red_baron_777> I want to start as fast as possible some applications (like it was in Windows the shortcuts)
[11:58] <needhelp1> histo: it does, just with that crazy limit
[11:58] <histo> needhelp1: That's really annoying so customers can only download one song at a time?
[11:59] <histo> red_baron_777: drag applications to the launcher from the dash
[11:59] <needhelp1> on windows and mac its not limited
[11:59] <needhelp1> linux, limited to one song at a time.
[11:59] <histo> needhelp1: change yoru user agent in firefox to fool amazon into thinking your on windows then.
[12:00] <histo> That's silly
[12:00] <dr_willis> amazon is really good at sticking their thumb in the eyes of linux users...
[12:00] <red_baron_777> but if I want aprox. 30 shortcuts, the luncbar would be loooong
[12:00] <histo> yet we have a shopping lens that canonical is making money off of from them
[12:00] <dr_willis> amazon prime -- not wworking on linux at the moment either
[12:00] <histo> red_baron_777: Where do you want to put the shortcuts?
[12:01] <dr_willis> red_baron_777:  you could play with the various docks also. some of them have folder/menu widgits
[12:01] <needhelp1> http://mdboom.github.com/blog/2012/09/11/amazon-mp3-ends-their-support-for-linux/   it looks like changing the user agent doesnt help
[12:01] <SuperRoach> dr_willis, you may be right re: menu/scroll bars gone due to compiz. Restart still has problem. can I load window manager somehow? It seems to hang via gui.
[12:01] <dr_willis> SuperRoach:  then compiz is crashing.. compiz is the window manager
[12:01] <dr_willis> SuperRoach: whats the video card/drivers?
[12:02] <Jutas> Hi Everyone, Do you know an application which can backup windows such as Redo backup, acronis, norton ghost?
[12:02] <dr_willis> !backup
[12:03] <red_baron_777> I don't understand: why we can't use desktop shortcuts?
[12:03] <red_baron_777> the desktop in this way will be unused...
[12:03] <Jutas>  !sbackup and !cloning are the names of the apps?
[12:04] <dr_willis> read what the bot said. ;)
[12:04] <cfhowlett> Jutas, dejadup
[12:04] <histo> dr_willis: what with chrome it doesn't work?
[12:04] <DJones> !sbackup | Jutas: No, they're factoids giving info from the bot,
[12:04] <dr_willis> histo:  nope.. some sort of flash drm issue it seems
[12:04] <Jutas> thanks a lot
[12:04] <histo> Jutas: dejadup is a popular backup app. Or you can use clonezilla or just straight up cli and use dd
[12:05] <histo> Jutas: I use rsync over ssh for remote backups offsite personally
[12:05] <histo> red_baron_777: drag apps to the desktop
[12:06] <histo> red_baron_777: It's not hard wth
[12:06] <red_baron_777> if I drag from launchbar, it won't stay on the desktop
[12:06] <histo> red_baron_777: drag from the dash
[12:06] <dr_willis> keeping 20+ icons on the desktop is just ugly.. reeks of some of the nasty windows desktop sive seen covered with icons. ;)
[12:06] <histo> red_baron_777: press the winblows key and start typing the name of the app. Click the icon and drag it to the desktop
[12:06] <red_baron_777> TY, it worked
[12:06] <histo> red_baron_777: don't over think things
[12:07] <Jutas> I'll try them all. Thanks again
[12:07] <red_baron_777> many times I decided to migrate to Ubuntu, now I'm doing the same thing, hope at this time I will stick with it
[12:07] <histo> red_baron_777: if you look in /home/username/Desktop you will see the .Desktop files for the apps. If you open them in a text editor nano foobar.Desktop you will see their contents
[12:07] <TakeItEZ> the desktop is covered most of the time with windows/apps, hiding the icons. makes no sense to "show desktop - click - restore desktop" (jm2c)
[12:08] <Raajhesh> ubuntu is cool ;)
[12:08] <red_baron_777> I use it in the office, so it must serve me well
[12:09] <histo> red_baron_777: What version of ubuntu are you running?
[12:09] <red_baron_777> 12.04
[12:09] <SuperRoach> dr_willis, hm ok. It's a intel HD 4000 (laptop)
[12:09] <histo> red_baron_777: ahh if you use a lot of office type apps. You may bennefit from installing libre office 4.0 they made a lot of changes
[12:09] <histo> red_baron_777: Although you may not need any of them.
[12:10] <red_baron_777> I used libre in the windows too
[12:10] <MJBrune> hello, is it hard to submit a program to the ubuntu repos (for review I assume)
[12:10] <red_baron_777> I must find a good totalcommander clone too
[12:11] <dr_willis> red_baron_777:   mc
[12:11] <TakeItEZ> mc
[12:11] <red_baron_777> with ftp, sftp functions
[12:11] <dr_willis> !info mc
[12:11] <user123> Hi
[12:11] <cfhowlett> !contribute|MJBrune,   no.  see the link.
[12:11] <user123> i want to  know if my computer is hacked ?
[12:12] <MJBrune> cfhowlett: thanks
[12:12] <dr_willis> user123:  why would you think it is?
[12:12] <cfhowlett> !details|user123
[12:12] <user123> just a sense that my computer is hacked
[12:12] <user123> what should i do know
[12:13] <TakeItEZ> user123: then get a clean live-cd and check all checksums of installed files
[12:13] <fortunepay> hi ppl
[12:13] <user123> how do i do that ?
[12:13] <histo> !rkit
[12:13] <TakeItEZ> !rkhunter
[12:13] <MJBrune> cfhowlett: Masters of the universe? Man I mean... I knew Ubuntu maintainers had big egos but damn....
[12:14] <user123> ok if it detected anything what should i do
[12:14] <dward> delete system32
[12:14] <histo> user123: there is chkrootkit in the repos
[12:14]  * AppleJuice smacks dward 
[12:14] <user123> ok but what should i do if it detected anything ?
[12:15] <histo> user123: panic
[12:15] <dr_willis> reinstall
[12:15] <user123> then what ?
[12:15] <histo> user123: Why do you think it's hacked?
[12:15] <AppleJuice> user123, Reinstall the whole operating system is a solution.
[12:15] <dr_willis> then dont do whatever silly you things you did that got it hacked..
[12:15] <Raajhesh> nice
[12:15] <dr_willis> assuming it is hacked,.
[12:16] <user123> the thing is i don't know what i did :|
[12:16] <histo> user123: What makes you believe it's hacked?
[12:16] <AppleJuice> user123, Why do you think your computer is hacked?
[12:16] <user123> well someone has been able to know what youtube vid i was watching
[12:17] <histo> user123: okay perhaps they have your google login and they are viewing your history
[12:17] <AppleJuice> Has thise someone acces to your computer?
[12:17] <histo> user123: there is also rkhunter
[12:17] <user123> nope i don't have a youtube account  and no one has a physicall access i think it's a hack
[12:17] <histo> user123: Is the person on the same network
[12:18] <histo> user123: Do you have a gmail account?
[12:18]  * cfhowlett thinks "Did I totally miss the !details???"
[12:18] <user123> well i suspect the following someone has been able to get in the router
[12:18] <superman> hei user123 do you use win7
[12:18] <superman> ?
[12:18] <user123> y ?
[12:18] <AppleJuice> Aye.. wrong channel.
[12:19] <histo> superman: no he's in linux right now.
[12:19] <histo> user123: How would the person get in the router? are they on the same network? Or do they live nextdoor?
[12:20] <dward> user123 use wpa/wpa3 and a sentance for password, turn wep off. no one will be able to get in your router anymore
[12:20] <dward> wpa2
[12:20] <user123> the weird thing it's like a super duper hack i don't use wireless
[12:20] <dward> turn wps off not wep
[12:20] <superman> hey any finish people here?
[12:20] <user123> but magicly port 80 got opened
[12:20] <superman> from Finland i mean?
[12:20] <DJones> superman: Probably most of them will be in #ubuntu-fi
[12:21] <superman> how do i get there on that channel?
[12:21] <AppleJuice> Whoa user123. How you know this person hacked into the router? Is this anyway possible from the outside?
[12:21] <cfhowlett> superman, /join #ubuntu-fi
[12:21] <histo> user123: if they got access to your network they could run a mitm attack and see everything you are doing.
[12:21] <AppleJuice> user123, To which server does port 80 point to?
[12:21] <histo> user123: without infecting your ubuntu computer at all.
[12:22] <AppleJuice> user123, Your own computer or the web interface from the router?
[12:22] <jesusabdullah> ugh I think I'm gonna have to roll back this laptop to use old fedora >_<
[12:22] <jesusabdullah> I've tried pretty much every bokernel boot flag imaginable >_<
[12:22] <cfhowlett> user123 what version of ubuntu are you using??
[12:22] <dr_willis> i hope he changed the default router password......
[12:22] <histo> jesusabdullah: what problem are you having?
[12:22] <cfhowlett> dr_willis, 1 chinese yuan says ; no
[12:22] <histo> dr_willis: I wouldn't even need access to the router just the network to do what he is describing
[12:23] <user123> well i reset the router and reset the password the problem still there   he maybe infected the Loader of the router or something
[12:23] <histo> dr_willis: Still think this is all bs though.
[12:23] <user123> i'm using the LTS version
[12:23] <histo> user123: What do you mean port 80 is open now?
[12:23] <dr_willis> histo: oh yea.. i know you watched the My Little Pony season Finale! :)
[12:24] <dward> you guys are bronies too?
[12:24] <dward> i thought i was the only one
[12:24] <user123> wait till i see
[12:25] <mae_tae> hello people, can we assign different range of ip with different subnet on dhcp like subnet 192.168.5.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 range 192.168.6.10 192.168.6.20 }
[12:26] <user123> nope port 80 is closed according to GRC
[12:28] <histo> user123: opena  browser and you will see it open
[12:28] <histo> user123: but not listening
[12:28] <histo> mae_tae: we can do anything we wants
[12:29] <AppleJuice> user123, Ask this someone why he knows you watched some youtube video. Is he admitting to have hacked you?
[12:29] <user123> histo i tried using grc.com sheilds up so it was definitly open
[12:29] <user123> ok will try  probebly will deny though
[12:30] <cfhowlett> mae_tae, perhaps better asked in #ubuntu-server      ...
[12:30] <histo> user123: Okay well that test wouldn't be definitive at all. It's completely wrong on my setup
[12:33] <Logicwax> ya know what would be so awesome?  palimpsest in 12.10
[12:34] <dr_willis> so get the source and compile it...
[12:34] <dr_willis> !find palimpsest
[12:36] <Logicwax> ok
[12:36] <Logicwax> might be a tad bit over my head....but ill try it
[12:36] <user123> ok i will do some tests with rkhunter and chkrootkit and report back
[12:36] <user123> !reinstall
[12:39] <histo> Logicwax: what is palimpsest?
[12:42] <ants> Major issue, I installed windows 8 on my desktop, grub is buggered and just boots to grub>_
[12:42] <ants> please help
[12:43] <dward> you probably have a misconfiguration in your grub.cfg
[12:44] <jesusabdullah> histo: stock latest ubuntu on acer aspire d270-1410 doesdoesn't bootever show a desktop, just upstart text output, , nomodeset  and diacipcpi=off and friends didn't change any behavior
[12:44] <dward> did you write it yourself ants
[12:44] <ants> can I fix it from the grub menu? No I didn;t
[12:44] <dward> you can boot if you know what kernel you are using
[12:45] <jesusabdullah> histo: gfx are intel gma 3150, a known problem chipset but only really for running 3d graphics, vesa should run fine
[12:45] <ants> the newest one?
[12:45] <ants> I'm runinng 12.10
[12:46] <dward> ants: ls to list drivs
[12:46] <dward> drives
[12:46] <ants> cools
[12:46] <jesusabdullah> histo: I'd fart around with it for a few more days but I'm leaving from India Wedsin about 24 hrs and this kid I've been helpin mentor needs a working laptop
[12:46] <jesusabdullah> histo: Apologies, internet here is REALLLY terrible
[12:46] <ants> ok I have a few
[12:46] <ants> ubuntu is on the sda
[12:46] <ants> if that helps
[12:46] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[12:46] <dward> you know which one has your root fs?
[12:47] <mae_tae> subnet 192.168.5.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 { range 192.0.0.10 192.0.0.20 } <--- is this possible to implement in ubuntu? meaning i had different range of ip's from its subnet
[12:47] <dward> try ls (hd0,1)/
[12:47] <jesusabdullah> histo: if you have any ideas I'd love to hear them XD
[12:47] <dward> or whatever to try to find your root fs
[12:47] <ants> if it's sda and it's the first to boot from in bios would that be hd0?
[12:47] <ants> ok yup trying now
[12:48] <ants> ok yeah thats the one man
[12:48] <ants> h0
[12:48] <dward> most likely hd0 but it depends on your gru config
[12:48] <ants> hd0
[12:48] <oxide> hello people!
[12:48] <ants> what should I run now?
[12:48] <ants> irc on the phone sucks lol
[12:49] <superman> do run irc on iphone?
[12:49] <superman> do you*
[12:49] <ants> nah android because my desktop is buggered after win 8 install
[12:49] <cfhowlett> jesusabdullah, you (1) checked ISO integrity with md5sum and (2) verifed boot media integrity with "Check this disk for errors"
[12:50] <dward> damn i wish i could see my config
[12:50] <superman> but is it possible to install irc on iphone?
[12:50] <krux> yes
[12:50] <jesusabdullah> cf16: I just installed it on another laptop, I can still check these but afaict the boot media itself is fine
[12:50] <ants> so hd0 has my install, can I update grub some how now fromt he grub menu?
[12:51] <jesusabdullah> er cfhowlett
[12:51] <dward> porbably do this
[12:51] <oxide> i have a question: Which is lightest os?lubuntu or xubuntu?
[12:51] <cfhowlett> jesusabdullah, didn't see your last.
[12:51] <dward> set root=(hd0)
[12:51] <cfhowlett> oxide, I'd say they're even ...
[12:51] <dward> linux /vmlinuz ro root=/dev/sda
[12:51] <ants> ok trying now
[12:51] <dr_willis> id say lubuntu is lighter, ;)
[12:52] <cfhowlett> oxide, see for yourself.  install one and then install the other on top
[12:52] <jesusabdullah> sorry cfhowlett terrible internet
[12:52] <jesusabdullah> cfhowlett:" what I said was that I just installed it on a similar but not identical laptop so I think that's fine
[12:52] <jesusabdullah> if you think it could still be an issue I can check
[12:52] <dward> initrd /<your initrd image>.img
[12:52] <Milestone5> can anyone please help me?
[12:52] <oxide> hmmm good idea
[12:52] <dward> then just boot
[12:52] <cfhowlett> jesusabdullah, well, md5sum check takes ... 2 minutes?
[12:52] <oxide> lubuntu taking the same updates as ubuntu
[12:52] <oxide> ?
[12:52] <dward> ant: but then you have to fix your grub.cfg
[12:53] <Milestone5> guys, should i create a boot, swap and main partition or swap and main except boot
[12:53] <Milestone5> ?
[12:53] <ants> ah I got unknown filesystem
[12:53] <Milestone5> my point, is the boot partition needed?
[12:53] <dward> ant if that doesn't work, you should just use a live cd, mount your boot partition, then edit /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[12:53] <DJones> Milestone5: I've only ever created /, swap and /home
[12:53] <dward> ant: that might take less time then trying to figure out what arguments you need to boot
[12:54] <Milestone5> ok drones, i saw like 2 guides that created a 500MB /boot partition
[12:54] <Milestone5> so i was curious if it is needed
[12:54] <ants> when I ran linux /vmlinuz ro root=/dev/sda
[12:54] <Milestone5> *djones
[12:54] <oxide> thanks a lot,i am downloading lubuntu right now,hope it works good as xubuntu
[12:54] <dward> ant: this often happens when trying to add windows or womething to boot
[12:54]  * cfhowlett ... "drones" ???
[12:55] <ants> it's hellish
[12:55] <DJones> cfhowlett: That was a mistab/typo on my nick
[12:55] <ants> what sort of change will I have to make dward
[12:56] <cfhowlett> oxide, not necessary.  sudo apt-get install lxde will install the other interface.  logout, choose "lxde session" and login again
[12:56] <Milestone5> so /boot isn't needed?
[12:56] <dward> ants the best thing is probably to just scrape it and get a working version
[12:56] <dward> ants do you have a live cd
[12:56] <cfhowlett> Milestone5, strictly speaking, no it's not
[12:56] <ants> so delete and then run something like update-grub? yeah I do
[12:56] <dward> yes exactly
[12:57] <Milestone5> cfhowlett, is it better to create it?
[12:57] <DJones> Milestone5: Its not needed, if you don't create one, its automatically included with / anyway
[12:57] <ants> sweet
[12:57] <Milestone5> so it doesn't matter at all
[12:57] <Milestone5> ?
[12:57] <Milestone5> sorry for a such a nooby questions but i am a beginner
[12:57] <dward> ants not sure if the live cd has grub though.... do you know how to mount rootfs from a cd?
[12:57] <DJones> Milestone5: No, it won't matter if you don't create one
[12:58] <Milestone5> so / and /swap is enough?
[12:58] <ants> I don't but I'm gonna wing it, at least I can now browse on the desktop to work though this lol
[12:59] <dward> ants do you know your partioning? did you have a seperate boot and swap partion?
[12:59] <DJones> Milestone5: As a minimum yes, I always create a seperate /home so that if I reinstall, I don'#t end up overwriting my /home
[12:59] <ants> yeah I do
[12:59] <Milestone5> but if i don't create home, is it ok?
[12:59] <Milestone5> cause i always do backups
[12:59] <DJones> Milestone5: Yes it'll be fine
[12:59] <cfhowlett> Milestone5, those are the minimum recommendations.
[13:00] <Milestone5> i assume /home will be in / then
[13:00] <cfhowlett> Milestone5, correct.
[13:00] <Milestone5> ok
[13:01] <Milestone5> last question
[13:01] <cfhowlett> Milestone5, fwiw, I a separate /home has saved my bacon more than once ...
[13:01] <Milestone5> when i finished managing partitions
[13:01] <Milestone5> should i tick Format on / only or also on swap
[13:01] <Milestone5> cause it is ticked on / automatically
[13:02] <cfhowlett> Milestone5, run with it.
[13:02] <Milestone5> so i should not tick format for swap?
[13:02] <Milestone5> a.k.a. run with the format settings that the installer defined?
[13:03] <dward> ants, here is a script that will get you back into your filesystem from a livecd command prompt
[13:03] <dward> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5567562/
[13:03] <ants> Thnk you!
[13:03] <dward> it assumes that /dev/sda3 is root and /dev/sda1 is your boot
[13:04] <dward> and that you don't have a seperate boot and grub partition
[13:04] <Milestone5> guys, should i let the format tick box unticked as the installer defined
[13:04] <ants> yup
[13:04] <Milestone5> ?
[13:04] <jeetpei> you should format
[13:04] <jeetpei> Milestone5
[13:04] <cfhowlett> Milestone5, those installer settings are fine.  However, if/when you set up a separate /home, ensure that you do NOT format it ...
[13:04] <jeetpei> Milestone5 : you should format
[13:05] <Milestone5> the "Format?" tick box got ticked only for "/"
[13:05] <Milestone5> and the swap tick box is blank
[13:05] <Milestone5> so i assume these settings are fine
[13:05] <Milestone5> (i am serious noob)
[13:05] <DJones> Milestone5: From memory, the swap tick box is greyed out anyway & doesn't need formatting
[13:06] <Milestone5> it isn't greyed out but ok, you guys say i should leave it intact
[13:06] <dward> ants then i would run grub-install --recheck /dev/sdX
[13:06] <DJones> Milestone5: Leave as it stands
[13:06] <dward> ants then like you said update-grub
[13:06] <Milestone5> so now i should just pick "/" and click install now?
[13:06] <jeetpei> Milestone5 : go for next step
[13:06] <jeetpei> Milestone5 : yes
[13:07] <krypto> How can i stop service "ksmd"? not able to send sigkill
[13:07] <ants> ok
[13:08] <janisozaur> is it possible to change dns settings just for one program?
[13:09] <Milestone5> thank you guys for all help provided
[13:09] <Milestone5> i really appreciate it
[13:09] <ants> how do I know if it installed correctly according to the grub.cfg?
[13:09] <Milestone5> thanks again :)
[13:09] <cfhowlett> Milestone5, best of luck
[13:09] <Milestone5> thanks
[13:09] <Milestone5> i tried ubuntu from the cd yesterday
[13:09] <Milestone5> and i am satisfied as heck :D
[13:09] <dward> ants what do you mean?
[13:09] <ants> I
[13:09] <dawkirst> Are there any good AWS S3 clients for Ubuntu?
[13:10] <Milestone5> can't wait for it being installed
[13:10] <ants> I've install and updated grub and it said successful (it did this before though I believe)
[13:10] <ants> can I check in the grub.cfg if it installed correctly?
[13:10] <dward> grub.cfg will be in /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[13:10] <janisozaur> dawkirst, https://code.google.com/p/s3fs/wiki/FuseOverAmazon haven't tried that though, only from reports from a friend
[13:10] <dward> but it's a pretty long and confusing script ants
[13:11] <cfhowlett> dawkirst, there are some listed in software center
[13:11] <dward> ants but by all means take a look
[13:11] <ants> ok
[13:12] <dward> ants anything importatnt is at the bottom
[13:12] <ants> ok
[13:13] <Akshayr> in ubuntu the history of the browsed files are kept
[13:13] <Akshayr> how cn i clear the history?
[13:14] <dward> you could change your mount options if fstab
[13:14] <dward> lol, but i'm pretty sure that only saves the time
[13:14] <Toph2> Akshayr,,, what browser do you use?
[13:14] <dward> not who actually browsed
[13:15] <janisozaur> Toph2, i don't think he referred to web browsing history
[13:15] <dward> is he talking about a browser?
[13:15] <ants> THAT FIXED IT! Thank you dward, you've really helped me out man. Have a fantastic day/night!
[13:15] <Toph2> jamestunnicliffe,,, ok
[13:15] <Akshayr> firefox
[13:15] <Akshayr> Toph2 : firefox
[13:15] <Milestone5> you should be able to open it using Ctrl+H
[13:16] <dward> ants glad i could help, we've all gone through that
[13:16] <cfhowlett> Akshayr, what browser???
[13:16] <Milestone5> and then there should be a bar on top and there will be an option to delete histroy
[13:16] <Akshayr> mozilla firefox
[13:16] <Milestone5> cfhowlett, firefox
[13:16] <Toph2> Akshayr,,, ok,, but that only clears the history of web sites viewed
[13:16] <janisozaur> Akshayr, do you want to clear web browser history or used files history?
[13:17] <Akshayr> used files history
[13:18] <cfhowlett> Aksel, Tools>Clear History
[13:19] <cfhowlett> Aksel, nevermind ...
[13:19] <dawkirst> janisozaur, cfhowlett thanks
[13:19] <cfhowlett> Aksel, you could delete your .mozilla files in your /home
[13:20] <cfhowlett> dawkirst, best of luck
[13:20] <Aksel> cfhowlett, please stop tabfailing :P
[13:20] <janisozaur> cfhowlett, also, please stop giving wrong advice
[13:20] <cfhowlett> Aksel, ah, man I JUST saw that.  sorry aksel.
[13:20] <Aksel> Np :D
[13:23] <jeetpei> how can i wget h-s link files
[13:23] <janisozaur> jeetpei, h-s?
[13:24] <jeetpei> yes h-s link files sorry i forgot to wrriten link
[13:25] <Naoy> Hi, I have an issue with my OpenSSH server. When I'm trying to authent using RSA from localhost (127.0.0.1), no problem, it doesn't ask the password. But if I try remotely, I cannot and get this error :  Error attempting to parse .ecryptfsrc file; rc = [-13]
[13:25] <janisozaur> jeetpei, do you mean https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HS/Link ?
[13:26] <TakeItEZ> Naoy: encrypted homedir?
[13:26] <Naoy> Yep
[13:27] <jeetpei> yes something like that i have link say : https://server.com/h-s/20130226/38bd0009963143fa
[13:27] <TakeItEZ> Naoy: see forums, there are articels about moving authorized_keys file outside ~/.ssh (which is what you need to do)
[13:27] <hubahuba> Naoy: I guess it needs to be un-encrypted to read the ssh key?
[13:27] <jeetpei> janisozaur :  yes something like that i have link say : https://server.com/h-s/20130226/38bd0009963143fa
[13:27] <Naoy> Ok thanks all, just googled authorized_keys on encrypted fs =)
[13:28] <janisozaur> jeetpei, and just using wget on that file gives what?
[13:28] <hubahuba> Naoy: are you keeping an encrypted $HOME on a remote server?
[13:28]  * hubahuba never considered that as an option really
[13:28] <jeetpei> janisozaur : it download a html page
[13:29] <janisozaur> jeetpei, i can't see your problem then
[13:29] <chamoda> test
[13:29] <janisozaur> chamoda, it doesn't work ;)
[13:30] <jeetpei> janisozaur : no problem i am hunting for solution since last 3 days :D
[13:30] <Naoy> hubahuba: what's wrong with that ?
[13:31] <hubahuba> nothing wrong, just curious :-)
[13:31] <hubahuba> you need a passphrase to unlock the fs?
[13:31] <Naoy> nope
[13:32] <hubahuba> nice. i'll have to check it out.
[13:36] <hubahuba> ah, pam unlocks ecryptfs on auth. nice.
[13:38] <avrelaun> Hi. I'm trying to install Ubuntu 12.10 on a macbookpro 7.1
[13:38] <avrelaun> I'm using the latest amd64+mac iso
[13:39] <avrelaun> It install correctly (altough the status bar on top is broken, displaying icons only if I click on them)
[13:40] <avrelaun> But after the first reboot, I type my password and then X freezes after a few seconds
[13:40] <avrelaun> I can move the mouse for a few seconds then nothing, same background but no unity
[13:40] <avrelaun> no mouse, and no menubars
[13:41] <jeetpei> avrelaun: try login in Ubuntu 2D session
[13:41] <vikus_ka> hi all!
[13:41] <cfhowlett> vikus_ka, greetings
[13:41] <jeetpei> vikus_ka : Hello
[13:42] <avrelaun> jeetpei: Rebooting. This laptop is  powered by a NVidia 320m
[13:43] <jeetpei> avrelaun: ok, see if after rebooting issue still persist
[13:43] <avrelaun> jeetpei: I had to force shutdown, ctrl+alt+F2 did not switch tty
[13:44] <avrelaun> jeetpei: Already tried just rebooting, same freeze\
[13:45] <n8w|> hey guys
[13:45] <avrelaun> jeetpei: How can I choose Unity 2D?
[13:45] <n8w|> im tryin to umount a disk but im gettin "device is busy"
[13:45] <avrelaun> jeetpei: The is nothing on the display manger
[13:45] <jeetpei> avrelaun: before login see small ubuntu icon in front of paassword click on that and chose Ubuntu
[13:45] <avrelaun> jeetpei: There isn'ty
[13:45] <n8w|> i have tried fuser -m /media/disk
[13:45] <vikus_ka> My flash-usb-drive, (fat32), was have errors. I solve it, by dosfsck. All ok, but now one folder not exist. Is any way, or any soft, to see list of files in disappeared-folder? (i not need to repair folder of files; I only need to see list of original names, which was in disappeared-folder)
[13:45] <janisozaur> n8w|, lsof /media/disk
[13:46] <n8w|> i get very weird pid 6858c
[13:46] <jephb> hey guys, i would like to ask if it is possible to display two different contents on two desplay when running ubuntu using one pc?
[13:46] <n8w|> janisozaur, return nothin, i have tried it
[13:46] <avrelaun> jeetpei: I'm used to see this icon next to password, but nothing here
[13:46] <avrelaun> jeetpei: I did verify my iso checksum
[13:46] <jeetpei> avrelaun: click on that
[13:46] <hubahuba> n8w|: lsof | grep /media/disk ?
[13:47] <cfhowlett> !display
[13:47] <avrelaun> jeetpei: on what? I'm telling you i do not have the ubuntu icon
[13:47] <n8w|> janisozaur, okok now i get smth...
[13:48] <n8w|> hubahuba, the previous one returns stuff now:)
[13:48] <janisozaur> hubahuba, lsof takes arguments, ithout any option it filters only specified file
[13:48] <janisozaur> *path
[13:48] <hubahuba> ah, -an or somesuch
[13:48] <jephb> hey guys, i would like to ask if it is possible to display two different contents on two desplay when running ubuntu using one pc
[13:48] <jephb> ?
[13:48] <cfhowlett> jephb, yes it is.
[13:49] <sls> join/ #als
[13:52] <jephb>  <cfhowlett>,how do i do it?
[13:52] <cfhowlett> !xrandr
[13:52] <cfhowlett> jephb, see the link
[13:52] <jephb> let me see!
[13:53] <jephb> anyway thanks
[13:53] <jeetpei> avrelaun: which Ubuntu version you using  assumed 12.04
[13:53] <Kurdistan> Hi my friend has fujitsu siemens amilo laptop and this is graphical card detail: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5567659/ . The issue is resume back from suspend. It goes to suspend, but when wake up it goes black screen. He really likes 12.04.2.
[13:55] <janisozaur> Kurdistan, i have radeon too and similar (maybe the same?) issue. the problem seems to be, that the gpu tries to output screen over hdmi when resumed from suspend
[13:55] <janisozaur> Kurdistan, plugging in and unplugging hdmi brings screen back to life
[13:55] <mvt007geek> Kurdistan:  to bacheye kojayi?
[13:56] <thdarkknight> anyone know how to get an acer web cam to work in UE?
[13:56] <janisozaur> Kurdistan, i don't know a proper solution, though, i don't put my laptop to sleep all that much
[13:57] <stowelly> hi, is it possible to get screen to display multiple terminals in one? i.e like emacs windows ?
[13:57] <Kurdistan> janisozaur, my friend has only a laptop/notebook nu other screen is connected.
[13:57] <thdarkknight> anyone know how to get an acer web cam to work in UE?
[13:57] <cfhowlett> UE?
[13:58] <thdarkknight> Ultimate edition
[13:58] <cam`> i work out of the box
[13:58] <dward> hahah
[13:58] <cfhowlett> thdarkknight, sadly, not supported here...
[13:58] <janisozaur> thdarkknight, ultimate edition?
[13:58] <janisozaur> Kurdistan, yes, same with my setup
[13:59] <thdarkknight> yes Ubuntu Ultimate Edition
[13:59] <Kurdistan> janisozaur, do you know how to solve it my friend?
[13:59] <janisozaur> thdarkknight, o.O what's that? there are no editions of ubuntu, especially no 'ultimate' ones
[14:00] <thdarkknight> what is not supported here UE or Acer?
[14:00] <Touhou11> Ubuntu ultimate edition always reminds me of this: http://funroll-loops.info/
[14:00] <cfhowlett> janisozaur, it's an unsupported port of ubuntu.  there are many.  UE is not supported on this channel
[14:01] <janisozaur> Kurdistan, as i said, connecting and disconnecting hdmi is a workaround that works for me. YMMV and i don't know solution to your problem
[14:02] <Kurdistan> janisozaur, so you mean if he tries connecting to TV and then disconnect it will work?
[14:02] <avrelaun> jeetpei: 12.10
[14:02] <Viral> can someone tell me if there is a way to disable screen saver when an app (netflix) is in full screen or something
[14:02] <janisozaur> Kurdistan, no. i said it works for me, so it *might* work for him too
[14:03] <avrelaun> jeetpei: I'm trying an apt-get update && upgrade
[14:03] <hubahuba> Kurdistan: I believe there is both a free driver (radeon) and a more non-free one (fglrx). tried both?
[14:03] <avrelaun> jeetpei: If this does not work, I'm gonna go with ubuntu 12.04
[14:03] <cfhowlett> Viral, it'll be in your screensaver settings ...
[14:04] <jeetpei> avrelaun: yes you can try CTRL+ALT+T will open terminal for you  and try update upgrade : another thing i wanna say : have you tried Unity restart or gdm restart : hope it will help
[14:04] <hubahuba> Kurdistan: like https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/VideoDriverDetection?action=show&redirect=X%2FTroubleshooting%2FFglrxInteferesWithRadeonDriver#Problem:_Need_to_purge_-fglrx - allthough this might make X unusable, so you might have to reinstall or fix from the cmdline
[14:05] <avrelaun> jeetpei: will try both. if nothing will try 12.04, and of nothing 13.04 !
[14:05] <Viral> how do I find the screen saver settings D:
[14:05] <Kurdistan> hubahuba, looked to jockey-gtk and no close source driver there.
[14:05] <jeetpei> avrelaun: dnt go for 13.04 i suggest 12.04 is best : its LTS and stable
[14:06] <avrelaun> jeetpei: If I do not have a choice, I'll go there
[14:06] <cfhowlett> Viral, type "screensaver" in the dash ...
[14:06] <hubahuba> Kurdistan: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/legacy/Pages/legacy-radeon_linux.aspx
[14:06] <avrelaun> jeetpei: this is not a machine for me, I do not like release-based distributions, rolling-releases are much simpler...
[14:07] <hubahuba> Kurdistan: I believe there are ways in ubuntu to fix this, so don't download that
[14:07] <jeetpei> avrelaun: as you please dude :D
[14:07] <hubahuba> Kurdistan: I got there from http://askubuntu.com/questions/127690/12-04-boots-to-black-screen-ati-radeon-hd-3200 :-)
[14:07] <Viral> cfhowlett, nothing comes up
[14:08] <Kurdistan> hubahuba, wake up from suspend gives black screen not booting up.
[14:08] <cfhowlett> Viral,  as I'm on xubuntu, I can't exactly explain where your screensaver settings are ... perhaps someone will volunteer the intel???
[14:09] <hubahuba> Kurdistan: sounds like a driver problem to me
[14:09] <Kurdistan> hubahuba, he uses the radeon (opensource one)
[14:09] <Kurdistan> hubahuba, no other alternative on jockey-gtk
[14:10] <hubahuba> which always have had some bugs. I've seen plenty :-)
[14:10] <hubahuba> what is jockey-gtk?
[14:10] <hubahuba> ah, got it. a driver-gui
[14:10] <janisozaur> hubahuba, a tool that supposedly detects and aids in installation of proprietary drivers
[14:10] <Kurdistan> janisozaur, I found this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mesa/+bug/1082314  but I do not understand the solution to be honest.
[14:10] <janisozaur> hubahuba, never trust it, i haven't seen a case where it would actually work
[14:11] <hubahuba> janisozaur: I hear you
[14:11] <hubahuba> Kurdistan: "Raring" is 13.04, ie beta release.
[14:12] <Kurdistan> hubahuba, :) I know that.
[14:13] <hubahuba> Kurdistan: in the bug you mentioned it says "adding apm=off to kernel line..." - tried that?
[14:13] <Kurdistan> hubahuba, no really
[14:14] <janisozaur> Kurdistan, they've just updated userland, haven't really found solution or what caused the problem
[14:14] <janisozaur> !xorg-edgers | Kurdistan
[14:14] <janisozaur> Kurdistan, you can try googling for xorg-edgers
[14:15] <hubahuba> someone has put 209 files in my /boot/grub/ ! how complicated does this have to be?
[14:16] <jeetpei> hubahuba: who putted files in /boot/grub/ and what type of files it
[14:17] <Kurdistan> janisozaur, sorry was reading about his issue... what can xorg-edgers help? I do not want to put unstable ppa on LTS.. it is like me want to harm him.
[14:17] <janisozaur> !ppa-purge |  Kurdistan
[14:17] <Nero_pr> hello world
[14:18] <Kurdistan> hubahuba, apm=off will make his laptop burn overheating. psensor gave normally high temp.
[14:18] <jeetpei> Nero_pr : Hello
[14:19] <joshs> i am having an issue with my screen going dim all of the time
[14:20] <joshs> the computer almost comes to a complete stop and the screen dims, what should i do to fix this?
[14:21] <Kurdistan> janisozaur, I just installed it I do not really make that risk..
[14:22] <joshs> hello
[14:22] <joshs> can someone help me with an issue i am having?
[14:22] <foo357> I'm going to install 12.04 LTS. Is it a good idea to create a partition for /tmp ?
[14:23] <hubahuba> foo357: not really imho
[14:24] <hubahuba> foo357: maybe for a server with rampant /tmp usage though
[14:24] <dward> i agree with huba. not really much of a need
[14:24] <foo357> ok hubahuba, thanks for the input.
[14:24] <flcl> what is the command to find path to specific file? Lets say I need to find 'aaa.sql' on my virtual server?
[14:25] <dward> locate aaa.sql
[14:25] <superman> how do i change my nick?
[14:25] <joshs> i have ubuntu 12.04lts it runs ok but i am having an issue with the windows going dim. not the whole screen, just whatever i am working on goes dim
[14:25] <TakeItEZ> superman: /nick batman
[14:25] <dward> flcl after runing updatedb, locate aaa.sql will work the best
[14:25] <Said> thank you
[14:25] <Fuzzles> how do i try uubuntu 13.04 in a vm without being slow any virtualbox settigns?
[14:26] <flcl> dward: locate aaa.sql does not do anything
[14:26] <Guest11907> o
[14:26] <TakeItEZ> flcl: find / -name aaa.sql
[14:26] <dward> flcl run sudo updatedb
[14:26] <dward> flcl first
[14:27] <dward> flcl then locate will work
[14:27] <Guest11907> kk
[14:27] <flcl> dward: what does updatedb do? (just typed it... taking time)
[14:28] <dward> flcl it updates a db of all the files in your filesystem jsut like running find / but it stores that info for quick lookup
[14:28] <n8w|> just crosscheckin, assume(hda=hda1,hda2hda3)if i do: dd if=/dev/hda of=/home/hda.img, this will backup the whole drive right?
[14:28] <flcl> dward: just worked, thanks
[14:28] <dward> flcl so locate will work just like find / but it wont need to search the entire filesystem every time you want to find something
[14:28] <theadmin> n8w|: Yes, complete with the partition table.
[14:28] <theadmin> n8w|: But uhhh, the kernel doesn't name the drives "hda" for quite a long time now, it should be sda
[14:28] <n8w|> theadmin, ok, how about the mbr?
[14:29] <theadmin> n8w|: That too.
[14:29] <n8w|> theadmin, great thx
[14:29] <hubahuba> n8w|: might be tricky mounting them directly though?
[14:30] <esers> Hi all!
[14:30] <n8w|> hubahuba, my intention with this is to have smth in case my system goes down...so i can simply use dd to copy the whole system
[14:30] <flcl> hey, updatedb -v is way much more fun =))
[14:30] <zorgborg> hi all, my mp3 device is no longer automatically mounts when i connect the usb/mtp cable, libmtp is installed, has the driver been removed from the kernel?
[14:30] <hubahuba> n8w|: ah ok, then you should be fine :-)
[14:31] <n8w|> hubahuba, good to hear:), lately i have been playing with fire
[14:31] <stilia-johny> hi
[14:31] <stilia-johny> hi guys
[14:32] <nearst> hi ppl
[14:32] <hubahuba> n8w|: place anything you care about in the cloud somewhere, files will be lost one day ;-)
[14:32] <theadmin> hubahuba: It's not too hard to make the partitions from an image visible, just have to do something like "sudo partx -a sdx.img"
[14:32] <hubahuba> theadmin: hm, true. but can you loopback mount them?
[14:33] <stilia-johny> i need to setup a proxy for my adhoc.. i want people that be connected with my adhoc when they open the internet browser to go in my apache page first... the apache is setup in my pc as well as the adhoc
[14:33] <theadmin> hubahuba: I think so. I haven't tried and the only HD I have is quite large, 300GB or so. I'm not going to loopmount that.
[14:33] <n8w|> hubahuba, sure thing, but in my case its mostly about the settings...its embedded device,n it took some time to set it up right
[14:33] <theadmin> hubahuba: I mean, I'm not going to dd that just to check.
[14:33]  * stilia-johny i need to setup a proxy for my adhoc.. i want people that be connected with my adhoc when they open the internet browser to go in my apache page first... the apache is setup in my pc as well as the adhoc
[14:33] <hubahuba> theadmin: I'm looking around for a usb stick, can't see one :-)
[14:34] <bazhang> stilia-johny, dont repeat so quickly
[14:34] <stilia-johny> !
[14:35] <hubahuba> zorgborg: anything in dmesg?
[14:35]  * realman94 晕倒
[14:37] <mint> hi
[14:37] <zorgborg> hubahuba: gah forgot about that, just a sec, its noted as a samsung device from lsusb at least
[14:38] <gipzo> Hello. I lost my ethernet connection and wifi adapter after changing 3.0.0-12 kernel to 3.0.0-14 ( ubuntu 11.10 ). ifconfig -a shows my ethernet interface, but with hwaddr = ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff. wlan don't show in iwconfig at all
[14:39] <gipzo> On 3.0.0-12 everything was working perfectly
[14:39] <gipzo> Installed 3.0.0-14 with aptitude
[14:39] <gyre007> how do I tell which package installed certain binary ?
[14:40] <janisozaur> !apt-file | gyre007
[14:40] <TakeItEZ> gyre007: if it is already installed: dpkg -S filename
[14:40] <janisozaur> gyre007, i *think* it can also do reverse searches
[14:40] <bean> also, dpkg -S /path/to/file
[14:42] <gyre007> janisozaur: this was a bit of a pain because it was actually link which was pointing to another link and that was pointing to a binary on which I could run dpkg -S :)
[14:42] <gyre007> janisozaur: cheers
[14:42] <TakeItEZ> gyre007: man readlink
[14:42] <zorgborg> hubahuba: whats the command for viewing files in real time (i.e. so i can see whats logged to dmesg once i connect the device?)
[14:42] <gipzo> I need 3.0.0-14 only for my touch-panel drivers, they are just .ko files and they don't work on other kernels...
[14:43] <gipzo> Is there any way to insmod drivers for one kernel to another?
[14:43] <janisozaur> zorgborg, 'tailf' or 'tail -f', you mean? these two are slightly different, though
[14:43] <nsahoo> anyone knows when mysql 5.6.10 will be available in a repository? Now it has the GA status.
[14:43] <nearst> tail -f
[14:44] <janisozaur> zorgborg, 'tailf /var/log/syslog'. i also heard that dmesg has integrated this kind of functionality, but that doesn't have to be correct
[14:44] <zorgborg> janisozaur: thanks it was tail -f i wanted, nothing seems to be logged to dmesg when i connect or disconnect it :(
[14:44] <nearst> zzz
[14:45] <nearst> tail -f /var/log/any- log is use for monitor any changes in ssystem
[14:45] <janisozaur> zorgborg, 'dmesg' is a command that displays kernel messages, you can only follow a file, in this case you want /var/log/syslog
[14:45] <zorgborg> janisozaur: aha!
[14:46] <zorgborg> janisozaur: just using dmesg as a commands show it is detected properly
[14:47] <zorgborg> janisozaur: but its still not mounted, nor listed from mount command
[14:48] <gyre007> really strange...can someone explain to me why aren't dependencies of apt-listchanges installed ? https://gist.github.com/milosgajdos83/5038940
[14:48] <janisozaur> zorgborg, what do you connect? do you want it to automount?
[14:48] <janisozaur> !paste | zorgborg
[14:49] <janisozaur> zorgborg, you can try pasting some part of syslog
[14:49] <gyre007> basically the gist above shows that apt-listchanges depends on exim4 but when apt-listchanges is installed exim is NOT even though its listed as dependency
[14:49] <gyre007> mm
[14:50] <gyre007> anyone came across that ?
[14:50] <TakeItEZ> gyre007: apt-listchanges suggests any MTA or exim4
[14:51] <gyre007> TakeItEZ: what does that mean ?
[14:51] <theadmin> gyre007: Use "apt-cache show". It provides better-looking information, wherein: Recommends: exim4 | mail-transport-agent
[14:51] <TakeItEZ> gyre007: it doesn't DEPEND on a mail-transport-agent, it just suggests to install one, preferably exim4
[14:51] <chalcedony> my husband seems to have lost his weather indicator from the right bottom of his GLX-Cairo-Dock, - Where can I ask about it?
[14:52] <theadmin> gyre007: Meaning "exim4 OR mail-transport-agent add extra functionality to this package, but it's not necessary for it to function"
[14:52] <AtuM> can anyone tell me what happens to kvm virtual guests on ubuntu when the host goes to reboot? I've left a guest running and triggered a reboot and then the guest failed to boot - i had to run a fsck manually from livecd.
[14:52] <tidux> I've been reading about that buffer overflow security flaw in 3.3-3.8 kernels
[14:52] <tidux> has a fix for that made it to 12.10 yet?
[14:52] <gyre007> but strange thing is that apt-listchanges DID install exim on ALL but 2 servers in our infrastructure...
[14:52] <TakeItEZ> gyre007: "apt-cache depends apt-listchanges"
[14:52] <gyre007> and that's why I came here to ask why...
[14:53] <gyre007> mm
[14:53] <theadmin> gyre007: Meaning that on all but those 2 servers you had apt's install-recommends feature ON.
[14:53] <TakeItEZ> gyre007: so 2 servers are not configured to install recommends/suggests
[14:53] <AtuM> i suspected it would cleanly shutdown/suspend the guest.. now I think it just kills the process
[14:53] <zorgborg> janisozaur: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5567807/ syslog says the same thing about it
[14:53] <TakeItEZ> gyre007: man apt-get (--no-install-recommends)
[14:54] <janisozaur> zorgborg, it doesn't appear to be usb msc
[14:55] <gyre007> is there a config file for that ? strange because all those servers have been built from the same image :-)
[14:55] <TakeItEZ> gyre007: /etc/apt/apt.conf.d
[14:56] <zorgborg> janisozaur: should it if it's an mp3 player?
[14:56] <gyre007> thats where I went to check straight away TakeItEZ
[14:57] <janisozaur> zorgborg, yes, but you might have to enable it on the device first
[14:57] <tidux> seriously
[14:57] <tidux> has the buffer overflow in the Linux kernel packages been fixed in Ubuntu?
[14:57] <tidux> or are you all too busy forking Cyanogenmod and sucking each other's dicks?
[14:58] <bazhang> tidux, thats not appropriate here
[14:58] <jrib> gyre007: you probably satisfied the requirement for "exim | mail-transport-agent" with some other mta
[14:58] <P4tch3r> !natty
[14:58] <gyre007> nope...no sign of any recommend option on any of the server...sudo grep -iER recom *
[14:58] <gyre007> jrib: I'd like to know how to find out what satisfied that condition :)
[14:58] <ikillcypher> guys what is -f ?
[14:58] <P4tch3r> !current
[14:58] <zorgborg> janisozaur: any ideas how i would do that? it used just mount fine a while ago (havent used it for some time), just seemed to be detected as an audio device
[14:58] <jrib> gyre007: do you have aptitude?
[14:59] <gyre007> jrib: yes
[14:59] <ikillcypher> -f == force ?
[14:59] <TakeItEZ> ikillcypher: just an option, what command you refer to? man <command>
[15:00] <janisozaur> ikillcypher, quite often, yes
[15:00] <P4tch3r> !12.10
[15:00] <bazhang> P4tch3r, /msg ubottu
[15:00] <ikillcypher> repo sync -f ?
[15:00] <jrib> gyre007: aptitude search '~i~Pmail-transport-agent'
[15:00] <janisozaur> ikillcypher, repo help sync
[15:00] <P4tch3r> bazhang: sry
[15:01] <bazhang> zorgborg, what are you trying to sync? an android device?
[15:01] <zorgborg> its just an mp3 player that connects via a usb cable
[15:01] <janisozaur> bazhang, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5567807/ Samsung YP-K3
[15:01] <bazhang> zorgborg, tried installing gmtp ?
[15:02] <gyre007> jrib: ah I see
[15:02] <SunilJoshi> Hi, whenever i press a dedicated mute button laptop speakers goes on mute but not able to unmute them using the same button
[15:03] <zorgborg> bazhang: i was going to install the latest version of libmtp, will gmtp be better?
[15:03] <gyre007> is there any way how I can view ONLY security updates available for upgrade ?
[15:03] <SunilJoshi> i am using ubuntu12.10, in order to make it working i need to use command line alsamixer to unmute
[15:03] <bazhang> SunilJoshi, dedicated mute button? on the keyboard?
[15:03] <SunilJoshi> bazhang: yes
[15:03] <YokoBR> Guys, please.. My HP G42 laptop is almost melting... And the fans are almost stopped... how can i control them?
[15:03] <gyre007> when I start aptitude it displays them in that dialog GUI but id like to list them on the cmd line...
[15:03] <MadsRC> I'm having a problem with permission on a ubuntu 12.04 box. Basicly it's a user that can't cd into a directory, cause of permission denied. Wierd thig is, the directory is 0755 user:group and while the user isn't the owner, the user is part of the group. I have a pasetebin here: http://pastebin.com/sSyV8b7g
[15:04] <jrib> gyre007: you can either temporarily disable the other repositories or craft another aptitude search command...
[15:05] <janisozaur> MadsRC, are permissions on parent directories also correct?
[15:05] <SIGKILLer> MadsRC: Are you using ACLs?
[15:05] <vandemar> what has to happen for Precise to get this iptables bug fixed?  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/iptables/+bug/982961
[15:05] <rudivs> I'm having problems with a website that uses java: all I see is a grey square. Chromium says I've got IcedTea 1.3 plugin, running from java-7-openjdk-i386, which is also what update-alternatives --config java says is set on the system. Any suggestions to get it working?
[15:06] <MadsRC> janisozaur: as you can see, the iTunes_media folder which the user is in, has the very same permissions as the Music folder
[15:06] <MadsRC> SIGKILLer: Not that I'm aware off. Haven't configred any ACL's
[15:06] <zorgborg> rudivs: have you got ubuntu-restricted-extras installed? might be that, was for me once
[15:07] <Anomie21> Is it possible to burn a 3CD .mp3 CD onto 1 DVD that plays in a normal stereo (that can't handle .mp3)
[15:07] <rudivs> zorgborg, should I have it or should I not have it?
[15:07] <SIGKILLer> MadsRC: What about other folders? Do permissions work there?
[15:07] <MadsRC> SIGKILLer: Yup, it's only that folder that is borked
[15:07] <Said_> hi
[15:08] <Said_> anyone here?
[15:08] <xatr0z_> no
[15:08] <bazhang> Said_, whats the support question
[15:08] <zorgborg> rudivs: it's not included in the install cd, but its rather handy to have
[15:08] <Said_> its my first time im here
[15:08] <SIGKILLer> MadsRC: Is the folder on the same file system? Tried chmod 777?
[15:09] <bazhang> Said_, please ask you ubuntu support question
[15:09] <zorgborg> rudivs: it includes support for java so id install it
[15:09] <MadsRC> SIGKILLer: Yup the folder is mounted with aufs from a couple of disks. Tried 777 and that didn't work
[15:09] <Said_> what do you mean bazhang?
[15:10] <rudivs> zorgborg, I have it enables
[15:10] <bazhang> Said_, this is ubuntu support NOT chit chat
[15:10] <rudivs> s/enables/enabled
[15:10] <Said_> oh ok
[15:10] <coolroot> does repairing the GRUB2 changes all my systems ownership which i messed up alot in my ubuntu 10.04 lucid distro? i can't boot it up normally i need to go recovery mode and from there need to do the root and type startx to be on desktop
[15:11] <c2tarun> I never installed compiz, but still I can see a process compiz running in top: http://imagebin.org/248195    Can anyone please tell me why and what is this compiz?
[15:11] <zorgborg> rudivs: if by enabled you mean installed, restart your browser and see if the java thing now works
[15:12] <TheGrey> o/ Is there a magical way in which I can make my programs load onto seperate monitors via the autostart.sh?
[15:14] <SIGKILLer> MadsRC: Try cd / then cd directory by directory all the way to the folder that is givinig you a problem
[15:14] <c2tarun> TheGrey, magic is hokum
[15:15] <TheGrey> c2tarun: I actually googled that, thinking it was a specfic command.
[15:15] <c2tarun> lolzzz... :D :D
[15:16] <zorgborg> bazhang, janisozaur: it's been detected with gmtp :)
[15:16] <Tomunix> Hello
[15:16] <Tomunix> I'm Franch
[15:16] <Tomunix> French
[15:17] <MadsRC> SIGKILLer: Found the problem... The file is, in it's original place only 0700, but the file when viewed in the aufs filesystem has 0755
[15:17] <bazhang> zorgborg, can you transfer files ok?
[15:17] <bazhang> !fr | Tomunix
[15:17] <Tomunix> thanks ! ^^
[15:18] <c2tarun> !en
[15:18]  * c2tarun just checking what ubottu said :P
[15:18] <zorgborg> bazhang: nope, said says error 60- could not lock device, and then a sudden error report regarding some photo thingy gfms or similar
[15:18] <bazhang> c2tarun, use /msg ubottu please
[15:19] <c2tarun> bazhang, I'll keep that in mind, thanks
[15:20] <bazhang> zorgborg, sounds like its recognized as a camera, not mtp then
[15:20] <helmut_> hi
[15:21] <juicyjones> I need a hand stetting up a reverse mirror of a directory between two boxes, want to put it on cron. i have all the commands, just need to automate it.
[15:21] <zorgborg> bazhang: it does store photos too, should i try a similar program for digital cameras?
[15:21] <bazhang> zorgborg, some devices let you switch between media/camera mode
[15:22] <craigbass1976> The rear speaker jack on my computer isn't working, though the front jack is.  I've had this happen before and ended up using alsamixer to fix it, but I don't remember how and I know that's not the recommended method these days.
[15:22] <zorgborg> bazhang: wait wait problem solved, stupidly didnt notice it was asking me for the download location, not location of the device!
[15:24] <smdahlen> is there a way to configure apticron to email security updates only?
[15:25] <MadsRC> ## BACKUP DIRECTORY
[15:25] <MadsRC> chmod -R $ST_PERM /mnt/disk01/backup
[15:25] <MadsRC> chown -R $mads_user:$users_group /mnt/disk01/backup
[15:25] <MadsRC> chown -R $nathalie_user:$users_group /mnt/disk01/backup/nathalie
[15:25] <MadsRC> ## DATA DIRECTORY
[15:25] <FloodBot1> MadsRC: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:26] <realman94> hello
[15:29] <zorgborg> rudivs: did you manage to get java working?
[15:30] <andrew515> I have not visited wiki.ubuntu.com for a while, but now that site is redirecting all http requests to an https server with an incorrect security certificate.  Anyone aware of this? I can't find any discussions about it online.
[15:31] <bons> How do I share the apt database between two Ubuntus?
[15:31] <kubanc> hellow! I have a problem with free space in Ubuntu. I've made two partition. One has mount point '/' and the other one has mount point '/home'. Ubuntu is saying that i have 0 free space, but as i look with disk usage analyzer it says that the biggest file  is googlechorome/defaule with size 558MB
[15:32] <bazhang> bons, the database? or the actual packages
[15:33] <przemek_> hello can you tell me in terms of mbps, how much data i can transfer with my
[15:33] <przemek_> 100tb  traffic acount ?
[15:33] <Folorn> if you got it setup where when u start irc your auto join channels pop up how you add a channel to that list?
[15:33] <Folorn> in xchat :)
[15:33] <bons> bazhang: I'd like to install the same programs on two machines, and keep apt synchronized
[15:33] <przemek_> i got 1000mb port
[15:33] <linuxdoc66> howdy
[15:33] <bazhang> Folorn, sure, edit the server and seperate the channels with a comma
[15:34] <bazhang> !aptoncd | bons
[15:35] <andrew515>  I have not visited wiki.ubuntu.com for a while, but now that site is redirecting all http requests to an https server with an incorrect security certificate.  Anyone aware of this? I can't find any discussions about it online.
[15:35] <bons> bazhang: I'd like to share the files, it's for saving space on the disk between virtual machines.
[15:36] <meLon> My cursor is getting trapped on display 0.1. It can move freely on 0.0, but as soon as it goes to 0.1 it becomes trapped.  Any ideas on what could cause this? (Gnome AMD)
[15:36] <bons> That is, install once, and automatically have the other machine see it
[15:36] <kubanc> Hellow. When i looked the folder size of proc i get this: Folder:"proc";   Type:"folder (inode/directory)";   Content:" 91,344 items, totalling 140.7 TB (some contents unreadable)"
[15:37] <bazhang> bons so something like apt-mirror perhaps?
[15:37] <bazhang> !info apt-mirror | bons
[15:37] <mjuszczak> Where does network manager store it's configs?
[15:41] <bons> bazhang: hm, no, I don't to mirror the packages. Let me explain better. I can share the /usr to share the binaries, so new binaries installed from A are seen from B. But I fear that B's apt-get won't see it, because it has its own repository.
[15:41] <gyre007> is there any way to avoid being shown package changelog when doing apt-get install pkg on already installed pacakge ?? I specified -y option to not be prompted for the Y/n question but changelog is being displayed arrgh
[15:42] <gyre007> looks like apt-listchanges is being triggered...
[15:42] <bons> grey007: apt-get whatever > /dev/null 2>&1
[15:42] <gyre007> but why is apt-listchanges being triggered ?
[15:43] <gyre007> basically its displaying changelog and immediately calling LESS command
[15:43] <gyre007> so I have to quit less in order to continue with the installation...
[15:43] <Pici> gyre007: do you want to see changelogs ever?
[15:44] <gyre007> I want to see the install progress...not the changelog...I think this started happening once the apt-listchanges has been installed...
[15:44] <gyre007> there has got to be some cmd line option to avoid it...i just cant find it mm
[15:44] <Pici> gyre007: then remove apt-listchanges
[15:44] <Pici> gyre007: thats what that package is for, showing changelogs
[15:45] <gyre007> Pici: I need it to send the changelogs with package updates mail notifications...
[15:45] <Scarberian> Hi, I am about to run lm-sensors for the first time on this installation. Last time I ran it on this hardware, it got to my graphics card and froze my system up hard. If I switch to another TTY without an X session and run sensors-detect would that avoid the freeze?
[15:46] <Pici> gyre007: then use sudo dpkg-reconfigure apt-listchanges and only select the mail option
[15:46] <gyre007> Pici: mm will look into that....
[15:50] <gyre007> Pici: looks like -qq does what I was looking for...ignoring list-changes :)
[15:51] <proth> Hi. I'm having trouble editing my /etc/network/interfaces file even with root permissions. The problem is described here but was left unresolved: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/util-linux/+question/204186
[15:51] <qdb> hello. i have recorded several phrases. they are in separate tracks, that is good for me. but iwant to play tracks separately. how to do so? no reply in #audacity
[15:54] <ophuk> If I want du -sh /home/* & /home/home_usage.txt to run as a cron job can I just put that in the crontab editor like that?
[15:55] <bean__> ophuk: what do you think that & /home/home_usage.txt is doing
[15:56] <purplerain> hai. i have problem with my webcam, it is laggy but strangely the resources given from htop is low. i also test it from a Live CD but all is smooth. what could be the problem? thanks
[15:56] <krabador>  onthenite
[15:57] <spotter> anyone here use vnc and have problems with a "stuck" alt/super key?
[15:57] <spotter> (i.e. hit tab in bash and it alt-tab's instead of auto complete or in gnome, try to hit up arrow to go through command history and it alt-up's (maximizes) the window
[15:58] <spotter> it seems to be an old issue
[16:02] <meLon> I am having issues with my dual-head ati setup.  My mouse gets stuck on the secondary x screen and cannot return to the primary one.  http://askubuntu.com/questions/261574/cursor-trapped-on-secondary-x-screen
[16:02] <qdb> muting one of them suggested in ##linux. it works. but it is not comfortable
[16:03] <carnafx> is it better to install Ubuntu Latest Release or Long Term Support?
[16:03] <carnafx> help appreciated
[16:04] <qdb> no , it should be comfortable for me
[16:04] <holstein> carnafx: "better" is a matter of opinion.. you can load both up and test them live.. newer packages vs stability... is the 12.10 unstable? no... do you want 5 years support? its really up to you
[16:05] <carnafx> I want to use it as my main computer
[16:05] <carnafx> to play steam games
[16:06] <carnafx> and install wine
[16:06] <carnafx> or equivelant
[16:06] <carnafx> I'm new to linux
[16:06] <san>     Applications -> Themes & Tweaks -> Mouse -> Touchpad   what is this application specfically?
[16:06] <sliddjur> Im having yellow dots all over youtube.... using google chrome
[16:06] <ophuk> bean__: sorry, had this window minimized, it's supposed to be &> /home/home_usage.txt and it will print out the du command or an error if one happens
[16:07] <bean__> yea
[16:07] <Folorn> anyone who use's xchat could you help me with a small problem- i wanna pin a channel to my startup list could someone please tell me how quick?
[16:07] <carnafx> what version would be best for playing steam games and running wine?
[16:08] <bazhang> Folorn, edit the server under xchat menu for channels to auto join, as I said before
[16:08] <ophuk> bean__: but would that work or do I have to put in a script and tell cron to run the script?
[16:08] <bean__> i would imagine that would work
[16:08] <Folorn> sorry might have missed your first one... 1sec
[16:08] <bean__> you could, you know, try it
[16:08] <ikillcypher> guys
[16:09] <ikillcypher> rm -rf ~/android/system/vendor/samsung  < delete directory
[16:09] <purplerain> hai. i have problem with my webcam, it is laggy but strangely the resources given from htop is low. i also test it from a Live CD but all is smooth. what could be the problem? sorry for repeating, i got DC, thanks
[16:09] <ikillcypher> rm -rf ~/android/system/vendor/samsung  < delete directory delete everything inside the folder right
[16:09] <ophuk> bean__: I did but didn't seem to run and but it's just running a command like executing a script would
[16:10] <hari_> hallo, myself hari who is using ubuntu for the past 6 months
[16:11] <hari_> is there any body to answer my question reg. wine
[16:11] <san> what is the application for configuring a mouse/trackpad?
[16:11] <holstein> carnafx: either.. but steam states 12.04 support, officially
[16:11] <hari_> windows application
[16:11] <holstein> !ask | hari_
[16:12] <san> never mind, found it
[16:12] <holstein> san: what operating system/desktop environment are you using?
[16:12] <k1l_> hari_: depending wine you might better ask the wine guys for support.
[16:12] <k1l_> !wine | hari_
[16:12] <bazhang> !appdb | hari_
[16:13] <bazhang> hari_, check the appdb, /join #winehq
[16:13] <hari_> #winehq
[16:14] <hari_> windows application worked earlier in 12.10 via wine some 1 month back is not now opening
[16:14] <mdh> hari_: please be specific about which application
[16:15] <hari_> it is a astrology software
[16:15] <holstein> hari_: maybe just downgrade back to what was working.. or reinstall wine/or the windows application.. or try the wine channel..
[16:15] <bazhang> hari_, thats for the appdb and #winehq
[16:16] <hari_> ok
[16:16] <sddhrthrt> why is ubottu called ubottu?
[16:16] <sddhrthrt> just out of curiosity
[16:16] <holstein> sddhrthrt: like, ubuntu+bot..
[16:17] <MichaelP> Any idea's why pulseaudio EQ screws with system volume?  everytime i change setting on pulse eq i have to trun pc volume back up !!
[16:17] <sddhrthrt> holstein: yeah, makes sense.
[16:17] <holstein> MichaelP: eq could make the volume seem lower...
[16:18] <B0101> hi, which repo do i get MIDI drivers from?
[16:19] <MichaelP> holstein: no.. volume truns down from a 100% to 77%
[16:20] <holstein> MichaelP: could be tied together somehow.. i dont trust the labels in alsa.. thats where you would likely need to look and would be the place to put bug reports.. alsa... you are using hte EQ in pavucontrol?
[16:21] <MichaelP> holstein: no.. useing pulseaudio eq
[16:21] <Pwnguin1> How do I order an Ubuntu?
[16:22] <mdh> Pwnguin1: a install disc?
[16:22] <Pwnguin1> Yes
[16:22] <holstein> MichaelP: maybe you could just use the eq in the application, such as in vlc... as a workaround
[16:23] <mdh> Pwnguin1: http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=1027
[16:23] <mordonez> Hi guys, my wifi stopped working suddenly
[16:23] <MichaelP> holstein: pulseaudio eq has better sound. with more bands
[16:23] <Pwnguin1> What if I delete my original Operater system first and theen take the disk and insert it and install the ubuntu? What gonna happen then?
[16:23] <mordonez> am I in the right place for help?
[16:25] <holstein> MichaelP: should be the same sound... but if you percieve it better, or just prefer it, go for it.. the question is, what is the issue? is it pulse? or alsa? where do you put the bug? do you know anyone else with that hardware to confirm it?
[16:25] <holstein> MichaelP: are you up to date with all upgrades?
[16:27] <roasted> Hello! Does anybody use Everpad? I had mine sync up once but after that it refuses to sync at ALL.. curious if anybody else ran into this.
[16:27] <mindracer> Is it possible to run Windows within Ubuntu like a VM, but instead of creating a VM, using the windows installed on one of my partitions?
[16:27] <mordonez> I get this message
[16:27] <mordonez> Feb 26 11:26:56 mordonez-Inspiron-1090 NetworkManager[1049]: <info> (wlan1): device state change: failed -> disconnected (reason 'none') [120 30 0]
[16:27] <mordonez> Feb 26 11:26:56 mordonez-Inspiron-1090 NetworkManager[1049]: <info> (wlan1): deactivating device (reason 'none') [0]
[16:27] <Soban> mindracer: you mean dual boot ?
[16:27] <mordonez> you have any ideas why?
[16:27] <mdh> mindracer: it'll still be a vm, but you can make a vm that uses that partition as a virtual disk i believe
[16:28] <mordonez> I have tried a lot of options I have found on the web
[16:28] <mindracer> i already have a dual boot, i just wanted to boot my windows within ubuntu
[16:28] <mordonez> and nothing
[16:28] <Folorn> there was no need to be ignored all i did was ...simply miss the txt you sent ... sorry for missing it bazhang
[16:28] <compdoc> mindracer, dont think thats possible
[16:28] <mindracer> mdh: oh yeah? i guess i should install virtualbox and see
[16:29] <mindracer> compdoc: darn
[16:29] <compdoc> mindracer, besides, if you run WIndows in a vm, it doesnt allow you to run netflix, etc.
[16:29] <mindracer> im really liking ubuntu 12.10, i havent touched ubuntu in over a couple years, its very polished now, i think im gonna abandon windows :D
[16:30] <jamesgcd> mindracer: its nice to see you like Ubuntu :)! My advice though would just be if you already have windows, don't delete it entirely incase you ever need to go back into it, especially since you've already paid for it.
[16:30] <Pwnguin1> Does Ubuntu support blu ray disc?
[16:30] <carnafx> I installed Ubuntu on my computer to a seperate hard drive but it has installed the grub boot loader. how do I remove this so when I take out the linux HDD it doesn't go to GRUB recovery?
[16:31] <jamesgcd> carnafx, which OS would you want to load up after you remove Linux?
[16:31] <mindracer> compdoc: ok.  do u have a ubuntu media center? im looking at "small pc" hardware, but dont know how ubuntu will perform with an intel atom or amd e-350 for example
[16:31] <marahin> Pwnguin1, it's hardware dependency
[16:31] <carnafx> Windows 7
[16:31] <Pwnguin1> yes, but it will work if i have connect a blu ray in the hardware?
[16:31] <carnafx> jamesgcd, Windows 7
[16:31] <Pwnguin1> if i got the right requirements?
[16:31] <marahin> I don't understand the question.
[16:31] <carnafx> I'm logged into Windows 7 atm
[16:31] <compdoc> mindracer, Id like to try those low power use cpus, but Im afraid
[16:32] <marahin> If you have hardware that is able to handle blue ray discs, it will work in Ubuntu too.
[16:32] <Folorn> anyone know how to change font in xchat?
[16:32] <jamesgcd> carnafx: you need to have either the windows installation CD, or to write a recovery cd to a dvd or USB (windows has a program that lets you do this). You then boot up into it, access the command prompt inside the cd and use the command "bootrec.exe /fixmbr"
[16:32] <Pwnguin1> Okay marahin
[16:32] <Touhou11> Folorn: It's in the preferences
[16:32] <bazhang> Folorn, try in #xchat
[16:32] <BluesKaj> !bluray | Pwnguin1
[16:32] <mindracer> compdoc: so am i. lol. i guess ill have to check youtube and see if anyone has experienced them.  check out Zotec Zbox, they look cool!
[16:32] <Pwnguin1> I see
[16:32] <Folorn> thanks guys
[16:33] <Espen_> what is the diference between a analog profile and a digital profile, in terms of sound settings in Ubuntu? A person asked me which of those two i use, in a bug report.....
[16:33] <Folorn> didn't know it had its own channel....you all been a huge help
[16:33] <Pwnguin1> I'm in the process of reading on links. sorry my english is not best
[16:33] <carnafx> jamesgcd, is there a way I can set it so that I can select which HARDDRIVE to boot without using a boot loader?
[16:33] <holstein> carnafx: i have used the bios for that
[16:34] <jamesgcd> carnafx: I don't think so. You need to use a bootloader of some sort along the way, unless you mean something else, as in making the computer use the bootloader on a different drive entirely than the default
[16:34] <carnafx> I can press F8 to select which harddrive to boot from but without the other harddrive plugged in it won't boot because it's reliant on the Grub boot loader
[16:34] <holstein> carnafx: remove that "reliance" from grub
[16:34] <Folorn> hehe
[16:35] <jamesgcd> carnafx: you could install the grub bootloader on the drive it loads by default
[16:35] <BluesKaj> carnafx, you need a bootloader in order to select between OSs
[16:35] <Folorn> hmmm
[16:35] <holstein> carnafx: i used to put grub on each drive, or sd card, or usb stick, and just select from the bios
[16:35] <carnafx> I thought I could just set it to boot from a HDD like how you set it to boot from the CD-ROM first?
[16:35] <Espen_> Need help with a bug report, not sure if guy replying knows what i am asking about.
[16:35] <Espen_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1132396
[16:35] <onefix_work> Anyone know if there are any projects taking over for ZoneMinder / Motion?  It seems that both projects are inactive now...
[16:36] <holstein> carnafx: you can, but you'll need something to boot when you select that drive
[16:36] <Pwnguin1> Can an ubuntu collaborate with a HTC phone? I mean like combine together, communicate like send pics or whatever? does it work?
[16:36] <carnafx> so if I fix the mbr on the windows 7 HDD it should work then?
[16:37] <jamesgcd> carnafx: To help explain this, theres two bits to grub. The Master Boot Loader, which is a few bytes on the media you wont be able to view as a normal file, and the /boot partition (although it could just be a /boot folder on your root drive). You need *BOTH* of these to work in tandem, and nom using the windows bootloader wont work to boot up grub
[16:37] <mdh> carnafx: startup repair might be able to fix this easily
[16:37] <aranax> Hi! I want to change the default file manager on firefox, I dont want to use nautilus, where I have to change the config?
[16:37] <holstein> Pwnguin1: nothing in ubuntu is preventing the phone from connect via USB and showing up as a drive.. you might want webshare, or airdroid (assuming you are using android)
[16:37] <carnafx> I understand that part
[16:37] <carnafx> but I want each HDD to be stand alone
[16:37] <jamesgcd> carnafx: If you repair your computer with the windows bootloader, it'll only boot windows. If you repair/install it with the grub bootloader, it could load windows and linux
[16:37] <Pwnguin1> Yes, then there are not so much problem thank you
[16:37] <carnafx> so I can choose to boot from each HDD manually
[16:37] <BluesKaj> carnafx, yes if you have only one OS you can set the bootloader to choose it without a timeout  , but if you have more than one OS , you need to set the bootloader to have oprional choices
[16:38] <carnafx> is that possible?
[16:38] <holstein> carnafx: i have done this using the bios.. with windows bootloaders, or grub per drive
[16:38] <holstein> carnafx: yes.. ^^
[16:38] <carnafx> ok sorry but how would I go about doing that?
[16:38] <carnafx> cause I can press f8 and it lets me choose what media to boot from
[16:39] <BluesKaj> even with stand alone HDDs you still need a bootloader , carnafx\
[16:39] <holstein> carnafx: you'll need to decide what you want on each drive, and "clean them up"... put MBR per drive, or whatever.. and keep in mind what can break when, and how to fix it
[16:39] <carnafx> hmm
[16:40] <jamesgcd> carnafx: Im having trouble telling what youre asking for :/. When you press f8 its asking for media, this media will have its own bootloader and thats how it boots an O.S off of it. You can't not use a bootloader entirely :p
[16:40] <carnafx> I'm thinking virtual machines would be easier lol
[16:40] <holstein> carnafx: or, just grub, and know how to "Fix" it, if something happens
[16:40] <BluesKaj> carnafx, other wise you'll have to go into the bios at each boot to choose which drive is default at at boot
[16:40] <carnafx> but even when I select a different harddrive it defaults back to the boot loader
[16:40] <carnafx> :/
[16:40] <carnafx> oh I can't just choose a HDD
[16:41] <holstein> carnafx: "it" didnt for me.. it booted what i had on the drive i chose
[16:41] <Dizzle> carnafx you can in your bios
[16:41] <carnafx> I have to go into the BIOS and tell it which harddrive has the boot sector?
[16:41] <holstein> carnafx: i *did* choose a drive, from the bios.. then, it booted whatever was on that drive
[16:41] <yosvany> Does anyone know how to add a personalized app to the unity launcher?
[16:41] <carnafx> hmm
[16:42] <carnafx> ok thanks
[16:42] <I-have-T1NYP3N15> When I connects to the server on IRC. It say somthing about Harry Potter but i cant read all so fast. i dont understand why?
[16:42] <Dizzle> carnafx are you dealing with grub and oses on multiple drives or is this all on the same harddrive
[16:42] <carnafx> multiple drives
[16:42] <holstein> I-have-T1NYP3N15: the server? freenode?
[16:42] <I-have-T1NYP3N15> on freenode yes
[16:42] <Dizzle> carnafx and the wrong os is booting by default?
[16:42] <carnafx> hence why I mentioned I can select different HDDS
[16:42] <SonikkuAmerica> I-have-T1NYP3N15: (a) It's part of the MOTD, (b) Your nick is inappropriate
[16:42] <BluesKaj> carnafx, I don't understand what you are trying to do , the bootloader/grub lert you choose the OSs . no matter on which HDD they are located
[16:42] <Dizzle> carnafx i just got here trying to help sorry
[16:42] <I-have-T1NYP3N15> HOW YOU FIGURE OUT SECRET CODE?
[16:43] <leehambley> is anyone here familiar enough with `runit` to tell me how to clear the $0 line, so that I only see current errors in the `ps` output ?
[16:43] <SonikkuAmerica> I-have-T1NYP3N15: I 5P34K 1337... O.o
[16:43] <holstein> I-have-T1NYP3N15: watch the caps... what is the question?
[16:43] <I-have-T1NYP3N15> What does MOTD mean?
[16:43] <SonikkuAmerica> !motd
[16:43] <mdh> I-have-T1NYP3N15: try scrolling up to read it
[16:43] <carnafx> Message of the Day
[16:43] <I-have-T1NYP3N15> it was much more when i connecting
[16:44] <carnafx> this is what I want to do
[16:44] <I-have-T1NYP3N15> it talking about harry potter on ubuntu server... LOL?
[16:44] <carnafx> Press F8 / Select HDD / If I select HDD1 it will boot Windows 7 / If I select HDD2 it will boot Ubuntu
[16:45] <carnafx> no need for a boot menu
[16:45] <Dizzle> carnafx um so you want to do more work to boot your os?
[16:45] <holstein> carnafx: you'll want grub there on hdd2
[16:45] <Dizzle> instead of grub comming up and just picking what os to boot
[16:45] <carnafx> I want to be able to manual select HDD
[16:45] <jamesgcd> carnafx: just to be sure, when it says hdd1 and hdd2 thats definitely different harddrives and not just different partitions, right?
[16:45] <I-have-T1NYP3N15> im expert
[16:46] <carnafx> yeah I'm not that retarded lol
[16:46] <carnafx> I have a docking bay
[16:46] <carnafx> it's a laptop HDD with Ubuntu on it
[16:47] <BluesKaj> carnafx, that's what the booloader/grub let's you do , it just shows the kernels and OSs rather than the HDDs they are located on
[16:48] <holstein> I-have-T1NYP3N15: you can run /motd and scroll up to read the message
[16:48] <carnafx> yeah but I'd like to be able to boot like how if you insert a CD/DVD-ROM it boots from there instead
[16:48] <BluesKaj> i give up
[16:48] <I-have-T1NYP3N15> ok i know see
[16:48] <carnafx> like when you insert an A: disk
[16:48] <carnafx> 1.44
[16:48] <carnafx> and boot from that
[16:48] <I-have-T1NYP3N15> i mean i now see
[16:48] <holstein> carnafx: the cd has a bootloader.. you'll want, as i had, a bootloader per/disk.. then you select that disk from the bios and boot it
[16:48] <carnafx> YES
[16:48] <carnafx> that's what I want to do
[16:48] <carnafx> but I don't want a boot loader menu
[16:49] <Dizzle> ....
[16:49] <mdh> carnafx: set the timeout to 0 then
[16:49] <Dizzle> lol
[16:49] <mordonez> I have this problem
[16:49] <carnafx> but then it will only boot to Ubuntu
[16:49] <mordonez> exaclty
[16:49]  * BluesKaj shakes his head
[16:49] <mordonez> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2081414
[16:49] <holstein> carnafx: i let windows manage its own.. i put grub where i wanted it.. per disk.. and i selected from the bios what "disk" to boot.. but i dont do that now, since it was not that spectacular
[16:49] <I-have-T1NYP3N15> run /motd
[16:49] <mordonez> anyone can help me?
[16:50] <jamesgcd> carnafx: its possible to remove the menu but keep the ability to change the OS running by making the menu invisible and have it only appear if you push a button at the right time if thats what you mean
[16:50] <carnafx> ok this is the step by step
[16:51] <carnafx> 1. BIOS Boots (Press F8 to choose media to boot from)
[16:51] <BluesKaj> he wants plug n play when docking the laptop
[16:51] <carnafx> 2. Press F8
[16:51] <carnafx> 3. Select HDD1 >> Windows MBR >> Loads Windows
[16:51] <holstein> carnafx: i just put grub per device.. and had that functionality, as you want.. selecting the drives from the bios popup
[16:52] <carnafx> 4. Select HDD2 (Instead) >> GRUB >> Loads Ubuntu
[16:52] <carnafx> instead
[16:52] <SonikkuAmerica> Hi! Forgive 117 lines of pastebin but I think my issue is self-evident: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5568098/
[16:52] <carnafx> when I select HDD1 atm it loads the grub boot loader
[16:52] <holstein> carnafx: correct.. thats how it looks.. but, you can run into issues when you update grub, and it wants to add a drive that might not be present all the time.. so you should understand what can break, and how, and how to "fix" it
[16:53] <holstein> carnafx: yes.. thats how it worked for me.. i selected them from bios, and booted them.. it was not trivial, and took more overhead to administer than i cared to do
[16:53] <SonikkuAmerica> In that link above lines 59-75 are the most important.
[16:53] <carnafx> yeah problem is because I had Windows 7 installed first and I install Ubuntu on a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT HDD. it has wiped the MBR (I think) and replaced it with GRUB
[16:53] <carnafx> instead of having GRUB on the Ubuntu HDD
[16:53] <SonikkuAmerica> But seriously, Wine wants to throw out Precise's X server?!
[16:54] <Dizzle> grub can boot that windows drive too...
[16:54] <MongolianDude> Hello all, I'm broke my Unity. how to install it?
[16:54] <holstein> carnafx: thats not a "problem" thats the functionality of the bootloader you chose to install during the os installation
[16:54] <kikilalala> flash and ubuntu just don't mix
[16:54] <carnafx> I don't like it like that
[16:54] <SonikkuAmerica> MongolianDude: [ sudo apt-get install --reinstall unity*
[16:54] <SonikkuAmerica> ]
[16:54] <holstein> carnafx: i used to not install then, and manually installed and configured each time
[16:54] <MongolianDude> ok let's try
[16:54] <BluesKaj> carnafx, grub installs to the mbr sector by default
[16:54] <elisa87> do you know what does this mean ? "now, via GDB attach to the process."
[16:54] <carnafx> because the Ubuntu drive is meant to be temoporary. If I take out the Ubuntu drive nothing boots
[16:55] <Dizzle> AH
[16:55] <holstein> carnafx: you might not like it, and dont have to do it that way.. but its what 99.8% of default users will want/need
[16:55] <holstein> carnafx: manually put grub where you want it
[16:55] <mordonez> Hi guys any ideas on wifi problems?
[16:55] <MongolianDude> command gives me package conflicting error
[16:55] <holstein> mordonez: no.. i would try the suggestions in that forum post..
[16:55] <mordonez> ok, thanks
[16:55] <carnafx> how do I do that?
[16:56] <carnafx> holstein
[16:56] <holstein> !grub | carnafx
[16:56] <Espen_> Anyone know Pulseaudio really well? What is diference between a digital out profile and analog profile? Can i use a analog profile on S/pdif? (how is that possible?)
[16:56] <holstein> Espen_: no.. spidif is digital output
[16:57] <holstein> Espen_: that is hardware locked to digital.. and cant send analog output
[16:57] <Espen_> okey, coz someone asked me if i used analog or digital when using s/pdig
[16:57] <Espen_> confusing...
[16:57] <carnafx> anyways
[16:57] <Espen_> s/pdif*
[16:57] <carnafx> thanks for the help
[16:57] <carnafx> I'm gonna try get some sleepo
[16:57] <carnafx> later
[16:57] <carnafx> sleep*
[16:57] <FloodBot1> carnafx: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:58] <MongolianDude> i've successfully logged to the unity session
[16:58] <SonikkuAmerica> MongolianDude: Beautiful.
[16:58] <MongolianDude> but there is no window
[16:58] <SonikkuAmerica> MongolianDude: O.o
[16:58] <MongolianDude> only wallpaper appears
[16:58] <MongolianDude> :(
[16:58] <SonikkuAmerica> MongolianDude: Right-click. Does a menu appear?
[16:58] <MongolianDude> yes
[16:59] <MongolianDude> Change desktop wallpaper command works
[16:59] <MongolianDude> and this is now window title
[16:59] <MongolianDude> panel appears on my center
[16:59] <SonikkuAmerica> MongolianDude: Then something's wrong. What version is this?
[17:00] <MongolianDude> it's 12.10
[17:00] <MongolianDude> SonikkuAmerica thank you for helping me
[17:00] <SonikkuAmerica> MongolianDude: You're welcome.
[17:01] <SonikkuAmerica> MongolianDude: Let's see... does hitting Ctrl+Alt+T and typing [ compiz --replace ] work?
[17:01] <MongolianDude> woow
[17:01] <MongolianDude> terminal appearing
[17:01] <coldmachinery> hi i have a question. does ubuntu play well with an ati4850?
[17:01] <MongolianDude> and there are fatal errors
[17:02] <SonikkuAmerica> MongolianDude: Can you pastebin them?
[17:02] <SonikkuAmerica> MongolianDude: (press Ctrl+Shift+C to copy from terminal)
[17:02] <holstein> coldmachinery: load up a live CD and try it
[17:03] <MongolianDude> I couldn't call browser from this session
[17:03] <BluesKaj> Espen_,  spdif is a digital output by default , no analog signal appears on' that connection afaik
[17:03] <MongolianDude> sudo permission needed for compiz --replace?
[17:03] <Espen_> hmm okay blueskaj
[17:04] <Espen_> i happen to write a bug, and i have this feeeling that the one trying to help don't understand my issue with this:
[17:04] <Espen_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1132396
[17:04] <holstein> yeah, it cant.. the hardware doesnt do analog.. spdif is digital only, and cant send analog.. it doesnt do any D/A conversion there, hence why you might want to use it.. to use a better external clock
[17:04] <SonikkuAmerica> MongolianDude: Not that I know of
[17:05] <coldmachinery> is there a way to get the icon panel to the left to exactly match my desktop color?
[17:06] <MongolianDude> I called it with sudo
[17:06] <MongolianDude> and there is one error
[17:06] <BluesKaj> Espen_, do you have pavucontrol installed , it might help , It's avol ctrl for pulse
[17:06] <SonikkuAmerica> MongolianDude: And that it?
[17:06] <SonikkuAmerica> *is
[17:06] <Espen_> blueskaj no i don't
[17:07] <MongolianDude> compiz (core) - Error: Another window manager is already running on screen : 0
[17:07] <holstein> Espen_: i agree with BluesKaj ... pavucontrol is one of the first things i install
[17:07] <BluesKaj> try it Espen_
[17:08] <holstein> MongolianDude: i would try logging in as another user, a test user.. if all is well, then you can remove user config files from your current account
[17:08] <MongolianDude> holstein : thank you for help, I'm gonna try it
[17:08] <meLon> My mouse keeps getting stuck on DISPLAY=:0.1. http://askubuntu.com/questions/261574/cursor-trapped-on-secondary-x-screen
[17:09] <coldmachinery> is there a way to get the unity panel to exactly match a custom desktop color?
[17:09] <holstein> !patience | coldmachinery
[17:09] <holstein> coldmachinery: its all open, so anything is technicall possible.. though, i find customizing unity to be "limited" by default
[17:09] <coldmachinery> ok
[17:10] <holstein> coldmachinery: http://askubuntu.com/questions/146354/how-do-i-change-the-unity-launcher-color
[17:10] <SonikkuAmerica> coldmachinery: It already should, starting with 12.10.
[17:11] <coldmachinery> but it does not match exactly
[17:11] <coldmachinery> it a bit off color
[17:11] <superdo> can I reset the net when I open my notebook? It doesnt go live unfortunately
[17:11] <coldmachinery> im going to read that
[17:13] <YokoBR> "I'll help you to control your laptop's fan" - No one said ever.
[17:15] <schweppes__> hello
[17:15] <Camulus> anyone on ?
[17:15] <Camulus> need some help
[17:15] <Camulus> need some help with ubuntu 12.10
[17:15] <genii-around> !details | Camulus
[17:15] <Espen_> blueskaj, happens same in pavuctrl....
[17:15] <Espen_> :(
[17:16] <Espen_> not saving volume settings, if changing playback
[17:16] <MongolianDude> is there any total reconfiguring script out there?
[17:16] <coldmachinery> i know mint is most popular on distrowatch, but it seems that ubuntu is the third most used os so my question, why do people use ubuntu over mint?
[17:16] <coldmachinery> there must be a reason?
[17:16] <xangua> !ot | coldmachinery
[17:16] <troulouliou_dev> h i have installed ubuntu 12.10 on a dell M6700 with a core I7 at 2.90 ghz freq , however /proc/cpuinfo; lscpu and other tools show me that it is only at 1.2 Ghz; how can i change that ?
[17:16] <Camulus> I can't see/use a 400 GB partition in ubuntu (i/m a new in ubuntu), can anyone help me ??????
[17:17] <troulouliou_dev> cpu MHz		: 1200.000
[17:17] <coldmachinery> kk
[17:17] <goudkov> hi guys. i'm trying to restore from a full-disk backup with a private partition. the entire system is fine, but private partition isn't mounted. so when i log in, i see the plain (and empty) home directory. the backup/restore is done with rsync -aHx --numeric-ids on the root. i only have one partition and swap. any ideas what to look into?
[17:17] <goudkov> not private partition. private home directory
[17:17] <Camulus> I can't see/use a 400 GB partition in ubuntu (i'm new in ubuntu), can anyone help me ??????
[17:17] <troulouliou_dev> Camulus, use gparted
[17:18] <Camulus> troulouliou_dev: i/m new in ubuntu....i have no ideea what pgarted is :)
[17:19] <dsprc> Camulus: it is a graphical partition management tool
[17:19] <MongolianDude> glxinfo gives me error : unable to open display
[17:19] <MongolianDude> it's a driver issue
[17:19] <MongolianDude> right?
[17:20] <troulouliou_dev> Camulus, apt-get install gparted ; gparted
[17:20] <lisandrop05> hello to every one
[17:20] <dsprc> Camulus: are you trying to format the drive or access data already on a partition?
[17:21] <compdoc> goudkov, if you use the gnome disk util, can you mount it
[17:21] <lisandrop05> please I need your help
[17:21] <compdoc> ?
[17:21] <Camulus> the partition is unformated and unmounted....
[17:21] <lisandrop05> I accidentaly delete every file in the /bin folder
[17:21] <lisandrop05> but I'm working on a VPS
[17:21] <Dizzle> ...
[17:21] <lisandrop05> and reinstalling is not a acceptable
[17:22] <goudkov> compdoc: it's a situation with a bad drive. i have the most recent backup. it was done with "rsync /" so it includes the Private directory. i restored the whole thing, fixed mbr, grub, crypttab (for swap). but when i log in, the Private is not mounted.
[17:22] <boze> ctrl + z ? : - P
[17:22] <goudkov> the only thing different is uuid of the drive
[17:22] <ner0x> Anything in the repo that can manage financials and connect to my bank account?
[17:22] <dsprc> Camulus: then just use gparted to format the disk and you will be on your way
[17:23] <goudkov> i can probably mount it manually, but i want to restore the whole system as it was before from that backup.
[17:23] <compdoc> goudkov, uuid changes when you change a partition. is that all you think is wrong?
[17:23] <goudkov> compdoc: it's a new drive. and all config in the backup is from the old drive. i had to update fstab for example for the new uuid.
[17:23] <goudkov> compdoc: it could be what's causing Private not to be mounted. but i can't find the logs for ecryptfs
[17:23] <goudkov> not in syslog
[17:24] <goudkov> uuid is the only thing that's different now.
[17:25] <MongolianDude> no luck at all :*(
[17:25] <MongolianDude> I've been to try to install ubuntu again
[17:26] <MongolianDude> managed to prepared usb iso boot
[17:26] <MongolianDude> and boot doesn't work
[17:26] <MongolianDude> I guess it's UEFI issue
[17:26] <MongolianDude> ah sorry guys for my bad English
[17:32] <dsprc> i have a problem with Xorg. i can get to lightdm but after i enter my login credentials it does not load the desktop but instead displays a blank screen for a second then kicks me back to the lightdm login screen
[17:33] <Guest51819> alyce außer kontrolle
[17:34] <Pici> !de | Guest51819
[17:36] <dsprc> may also be a symptom of some other problem i have; being everytime i get a kernel update or something remotely linked to the graphics stack i have to do a bunch of voodoo to even get X going again
[17:37] <glenn_> I have a strange problem  i've mount my nfts disk as follow  on command line mount -t  ntfs-3g /dev/sdc1 /mnt/windows. Why can i see them in the file explorer Personoal folder
[17:39] <BluesKaj> glenn_, whynot add the ntfs drive to fstab ?
[17:41] <amcsi_work> how do I select a window without registering a click event on it?
[17:41] <kikilalala> flash and ubuntu just don't mix
[17:41] <glenn_> blueskaj  it is for a test to see how to mount it and than top put in the fstab
[17:43] <BluesKaj> glenn_, instead of using /dev/sdc1 , use /dev/sdc
[17:43] <glenn_> Blueskaj, But what is the reason that is see in the explore all the partions exept the Windows XP Partion
[17:43] <llutz> very unlikely that windows resides on a raw drive /dev/sdc
[17:44] <glenn_> Why To use /dev/sdc
[17:44] <llutz> glenn_: it makes no sense
[17:45] <BluesKaj> llutz, well there are recovery partitions on windows etc that might be using /dev/sdc1.2,3
[17:45] <llutz> BluesKaj: even then it makes no sense to look for /dev/sdc
[17:45] <llutz> BluesKaj: that is the raw drive, very unlikely it holds any files/filesystems
[17:45] <BluesKaj> ok llu then expalin why it makes no sense
[17:45] <BluesKaj> llutz,^
[17:45] <glenn_> bleuskaj the SDC1 is the windows partion
[17:46] <stepcellwolf> could some one help me, why my ubuntu 12.04 has no sound in lenovo thinkpad edge e330, it has few minutes ago, but now it just stoped. When I plugin the headphones it works but no sound from speakers
[17:47] <stepcellwolf> this issue has happened few time, but after reboot the issue is fix, unfortunately not any more
[17:48] <kalenjohnson> stepcellwolf, if you click on the sound icon in the top bar, and click sound settings, make sure the speakers you want to use are highlighted
[17:48] <stepcellwolf> done that many times, still it is not working
[17:48] <glenn_> Why can't i see my ntfs drive in the explorer
[17:49] <akhilblue> Hey guys. How do i add facebook account? i cant seem to add facebook account..
[17:49] <kalenjohnson> stepcellwolf, what about the test button? does that do anything?
[17:49] <stepcellwolf> no
[17:49] <BluesKaj> ok llutz I see your point  I forgot that Windows always looks to install on /dev/sda
[17:50] <dsprc> stepcellwolf: do you get any output if you run 'speaker-test' from a terminal?
[17:50] <glenn_> Blueskaj why cant i see the mounted Windows Partion in my File explorer
[17:50] <llutz> BluesKaj: thats not the point. the point is, that windos would NOT install into /dev/sda because that is not a partition, it would install into sdaX
[17:51] <stepcellwolf> no sound at all, I will try soon a live ubuntu usb to see if this will work
[17:52] <kalenjohnson> llutz, you mean sda#? like sda1, sda2, etc?
[17:52] <llutz> kalenjohnson: yes
[17:52] <BluesKaj> llutz, yes , but initially it looks for /dev/sda to create , sda1
[17:52] <kalenjohnson> I'll go with that, my Windoze installation is sitting in sda1 and 2
[17:53] <dsprc> stepcellwolf: maybe try 'alsactl restore' if speaker-test didnt produce any output
[17:53] <glenn_> Why can't i see by drive icoon of The windows partion in the file explorer
[17:54] <llutz> whatever, windows will not install onto a drive (without dirty hacks), it always will use partitions (whatever numbering). And thus it makes no sense to try to "mount /dev/sdb " to look for windows files BluesKaj
[17:54] <BluesKaj> ok formatting a drive would create dev/sda1 ... I'm a bit rusty since I havent dealt with a windows partition for a while
[17:54] <stepcellwolf> no sound either
[17:54] <dsprc> glenn_: just create a bookmark if it is already mounted
[17:55] <glenn_> dsprc how can i creat a bookmark
[17:55] <llutz> BluesKaj: it wouldn't but lets drop it here ;)
[17:56] <glenn_> dsprc how can i created a bootmark
[17:57] <BluesKaj> llutz, yeah , I should have checked blkid , my Windows HDD , /dev/sda1: UUID="34505BF0540CC8C1" TYPE="ntfs" :)
[17:57] <glenn_> how can i created a book mark for a mouted drive
[17:57] <dsprc> stepcellwolf: 'alsactl init' it will attempt to set audi devices to a default state
[17:57] <glenn_> dsprc
[17:58] <sagarnikam123> I just joined first time IRC chat
[17:58] <glenn_> how can  i created a bookmark for amounted drive
[17:58] <coldmachinery>  /ns register password email
[17:58] <stepcellwolf> no sound either, maybe it is a hardware problem
[17:59] <dsprc> glenn_: stop flooding please. i am not sure how it is done in unity or gnome. think you can just drag and drop it in the bookmarks area of a panel
[17:59] <coldmachinery> did not work
[17:59] <Pici> coldmachinery: ask in #freenode if you have issues registering
[17:59] <coldmachinery> ok
[18:00] <BluesKaj> no sound stepcellwolf ..we need more detail
[18:00] <TheLordOfTime> any solutions for repairing a "read only filesystem" on boot for the root partition?
[18:01] <SwedeMike> TheLordOfTime: repair? what's wrong with it? why is it read-only?
[18:01] <avrelaun> Successfully installed Ubuntu 12.04.2 on a MacbookPro 7.1
[18:02] <TheLordOfTime> SwedeMike, no clue, just booted and it returned as read only and dropped me to the command line
[18:02] <TheLordOfTime> can't do anything because its read only
[18:02] <avrelaun> However, is there a way to reproduce the right-click in the bottom right corner behaviour from mac os x ?
[18:02] <baumy> i was having problems with my framebuffer in ubutnu 12.10 server on a newer nvidia video card, i installed the slim login manager to fix the fact that the login prompt was offscreen, now when it strts my xsession with i3 as a window manager i see black artifacts coming in chunks on the screen, some of them flashing white as if the terminal is 'shining through' my windows. what gives?
[18:02] <joseantonio> hola
[18:02] <SwedeMike> TheLordOfTime: mount -o remount,rw /
[18:02] <BluesKaj> stepcellwolf,  sudo aplay -l in the terminal can give us what we need if you pastebin the output
[18:03] <dsprc> i have a problem with Xorg. i can get to lightdm but after i enter my login credentials it does not load the desktop but instead displays a blank screen for a second then kicks me back to the lightdm login screen. startx just blanks out too
[18:03] <TheLordOfTime> SwedeMike, will do when I'm next on the system, i am gathering solutoins first :P
[18:03] <SwedeMike> TheLordOfTime: that just mounts it rw, but doesn't really adress the root cause to why it's ro
[18:03] <TheLordOfTime> SwedeMike, which i'll never figure out since i don't have boot logs here :P
[18:05] <akhilblue> guys. i have a problem with online accounts.
[18:05] <stepcellwolf> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5568298/
[18:05] <glenn_> how can help me with the file explorer in unity
[18:08] <glenn_> who can help me with the file explorer
[18:10] <DJones> !details | glenn_
[18:11] <dendazen> Hello Guys, Using Ubuntu 12.04 . Is there any feasible alternative to nfs?
[18:12] <meet> Is it possible to selectively install libreoffice products- writer, impress and base. i don't need  the others.
[18:12] <glenn_> who can help me with the file explorer
[18:12] <dsprc> DJones: he is trying to get a windows partition to display in the file manager
[18:12] <DJones> glenn_: People don't know if they can help because you've not asked your real question yet
[18:12] <bean__> glenn_: stop, it was just explained to you that you need to explain
[18:13] <BEC> is there a specific channel(s) for tablets & smartphones?
[18:13] <DJones> BEC: #ubuntu-touch
[18:14] <BEC> thanks DJones
[18:14] <glenn_> bean what did you mean
[18:14] <coldmachinery> how do i install a .run?
[18:14] <jmnoz> I installed cairo-dock under xfce and the configuration dialogs contain black text on black background. I am guessing it is because of some (broken) theme, how can I change it?
[18:14] <bekks> coldmachinery: Normally, you dont. What are you trying to do?
[18:14] <SuperLag> I'm a Mac user as well as Ubuntu user... and one thing I miss is having a column view file manager. If you highlight a folder in column one, its contents open in column two... and so on. Does something like that exist for Ubuntu?
[18:15] <BluesKaj> stepcellwolf,  in the terminal open alsamixer and make sure the ctls are at least 85% , then run sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel. Also add this line to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf ,  options snd-hda-intel index=0 , with root permissions , then save the file and reboot
[18:16] <glenn_> djones in the file explore on the unity start i see al my  disks but why can't i see the Partion where xp is on installed
[18:16] <coldmachinery> nvm the software isnt free.
[18:18] <SynSynWork> I'm having an issue with the Ubuntu Server 12.04.2 installation on a Supermicro X9SCi-LN4-B motherboard.  I cannot get video/output past Grub - I've tried various VGA settings, etc, to no avail - any suggestions?
[18:19] <holstein> SynSynWork: i might just hook up a graphics card that works, and get installed and ssh working, and go ahead and just set it up headless and go from there
[18:19] <SynSynWork> Its a 1U server, I could try, but I don't have a card that would work in it on hand.
[18:20] <Spine> im installing ubuntu for the first time on a 16gb stick
[18:20] <glenn_> how can help me
[18:21] <Spine> Do i only need one swap area partition with mount point / ?
[18:21] <Spine> o4 sdo i need other partitions too
[18:21] <Spine> **or do i need other partitions too
[18:22] <holstein> Spine: if you are uncomfortable, i would just let the installer setup the partitions
[18:22] <multipack> you just need one afaik, depending on the amount of ram you have and if you want the server to sleep at any stage
[18:22] <unwanted-d> hello everyone, i have a problem. I want to install ubuntu 12.10 on my notebook, i have windows 7 on it too and i dont want to delete it, so i want to install ubuntu on the free space i have, the thing is when it shows me all partitions, there is "unusable" space wich is 100 gb, but i cant create a partition with that space ... suggestions ? thank you
[18:23] <hilarie> So... how to remove root as an owner of something.... http://paste.ubuntu.com/5568350/
[18:23] <holstein> unwanted-d: you might want to see what that space is... recovery partition, or something else that is needed
[18:24] <unwanted-d> i resized my windows partition ( i did it on windows ) so i have 100 gb free, then i rebooted the windows and i'm on linux right now
[18:24] <llutz> hilarie: "man chgrp" (its not the owner, its the group)
[18:24] <hilarie> llutz ty
[18:24] <Spine> installation type: something else for usb install wont let me
[18:24] <Spine> im just gonna go ahead and hope i dont wipemy hdd
[18:24] <unwanted-d> but i cant continue the instalation because i'm not allowed to do nothing with that unused space
[18:24] <Spine> :D
[18:25] <holstein> unwanted-d: i would open gparted, from the live CD, and look and see what is going on
[18:25] <unwanted-d> i can do that while i'm here too ?
[18:25] <holstein> unwanted-d: if "here" is, from a live CD, then yes
[18:25] <unwanted-d> so i should go to terminal right ?
[18:26] <holstein> unwanted-d: i would open gparted, and look at the partitions and the drives
[18:26] <unwanted-d> i'm on it holstein
[18:26] <YokoBR> Guys, please stahp :( my laptop is almost melting. I need to enable it fan
[18:26] <holstein> YokoBR: i would look in the bios
[18:26] <unwanted-d> so i have 4 partitions for my windows, then the unallocated space 100 gb
[18:27] <holstein> unwanted-d: you should be able to allocate it, or try and make it usable
[18:27] <glenn_> holstein can you help me with a ntfs partion
[18:27] <YokoBR> holstein, nope, it's not that
[18:27] <unwanted-d> i tryied to create a partition and it says :  it is not possible to create more than 4 primary partitions
[18:27] <llutz> unwanted-d: if you already have 4 primary partitions (msdo partition-type) you cannot create more
[18:27] <holstein> !aks | glenn_
[18:28] <holstein> !ask | glenn_
[18:28] <roadfish> I'm using "wget -m URL" on a blog but the blog has all these links to redundant files with "?" after the html suffix. Can wget drop these redundant files?
[18:28] <stepcellwolf> BluesKaj no sound again
[18:28] <unwanted-d> but it says something that " if you want more partitions you should frist  create an extended partition.
[18:28] <holstein> YokoBR: feel free and elaborate for the volunteers here to try and help
[18:28] <glenn_> holstein why can't i see my xp ntfs partion in het file explorer
[18:28] <Ubuntu-erikas> !patience
[18:28] <llutz> unwanted-d: remove one partition, create an extended in the space, and there you create 2 logical drives then
[18:28] <hilarie> is it normal to have this many users? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5568366/
[18:28] <glenn_> the drive is manual mounted on, command line /mnt/windows
[18:28] <unwanted-d> yeah but there are some important partitions llutz
[18:28] <llutz> hilarie: systemaccounts, yes
[18:29] <hilarie> llutz ty
[18:29] <llutz> unwanted-d: well, thats the way to go
[18:29] <unwanted-d> like recover, hp_tools , system and the C partition ( the one with the windows installed )
[18:29] <holstein> glenn_: they are corrupted, you dont have permission... they are not mounted or mounting ? not sure.. do you see the partition listed anywhere?
[18:29] <llutz> unwanted-d: its not a linux-issue that you only can have 4 primary partitions
[18:29] <unwanted-d> i should remove the hp_tools because maybe there are only the drivers
[18:29] <YokoBR> My HP G42 laptop is almost melting. It's an AMD hybrid laptop.
[18:29] <unwanted-d> and the drivers can be found on internet
[18:30] <holstein> glenn_: OH. well, id just try to do it automatically, and if so, then  the way you are mounting it is the issue
[18:30] <unwanted-d> deleted lol
[18:30] <unwanted-d> now i can create partition
[18:30] <unwanted-d> darn
[18:30] <glenn_> holstein how can i do that automaticly
[18:30] <holstein> glenn_: i just boot the system, and click on the partition...
[18:31] <holstein> glenn_: you might have to undo whatever you have done
[18:31] <llutz> unwanted-d: you removed 1 partition from disk-start and have unallocated at the end? good luck
[18:31] <hilarie> sorry for so many random and stupid questions while I am dealing with this: What is happening here? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5568373/
[18:31] <unwanted-d> i removed a partition that i had on windows ( with my notebook drivers for windows ) and now i have 103 gb unalocated, it should work
[18:31] <glenn_> but how can i automaticly mount it
[18:32] <unwanted-d> darn still doesnt let me create a partition
[18:32] <Tawnee> If I'm running Windows 8 64bit on a non-UEFI computer, can I use the wubi installer?
[18:32] <llutz> hilarie: directories need the "x" bit set to enter chmod +x
[18:32] <holstein> unwanted-d: what are the errors? what is not letting you do what?
[18:32] <holstein> Tawnee: i would just try it and see
[18:32] <unwanted-d> well my mistake, the delete operation was in background waiting for my approvement, and i forgot to accept it
[18:33] <unwanted-d> now is deleted, lets see
[18:33] <hilarie> llutz so 766 should be what I set it too?
[18:33] <llutz> hilarie: chmod 755
[18:33] <Tawnee> nvm, I missed the giant "Windows installer is not compatible with Windows 8 or UEFI firmware." warning at the top of the Wubi page.
[18:33] <glenn_> why can't i see my monthed ntfs partion in the file explorer
[18:33] <holstein> glenn_: i literally just click on the ntfs or fat32 partition in the filemanager i am using
[18:33] <unwanted-d> is not anymore unusable space now is changed to "free space"
[18:33] <llutz> hilarie: either 7(rwx) or 5(r-x), 6 (rw) has no executable bit set
[18:34] <glenn_> holstein in don't see them in the filemanger
[18:34] <holstein> glenn_: i would say the reason you are not able to use it is that you have mounted the partition manually incorrectly
[18:34] <holstein> glenn_: i would say, the reaon you dontsee them is due to the same
[18:34] <llutz> !permissions | hilarie
[18:34] <unwanted-d> now i have to make the partition, what should be : ext4 ?
[18:34] <unwanted-d> and primary ?
[18:34] <holstein> unwanted-d: you can have the installer make it. and should if you feel uncomfortable partitioning
[18:34] <llutz> unwanted-d: to install ubuntu? create 2 logical, one for / and one swap
[18:35] <llutz> unwanted-d: / ext4, swap swap
[18:35] <unwanted-d> swap should be a big partition ?
[18:35] <caskaid> llutz, they don't have to be logical ;)
[18:35] <hilarie> llutz I will read that, thank you
[18:35] <holstein> unwanted-d: the installer will automatically allot swap
[18:35] <caskaid> unwanted-d, no
[18:35] <unwanted-d> 10 gb for the swap and 90 gb for the  / partition
[18:35] <llutz> caskaid: if he has already 3 primaries, they have
[18:36] <caskaid> llutz, ahh yes true.
[18:36] <holstein> unwanted-d: not 10gb's for swap.. usually twice the amount of ram
[18:36] <unwanted-d> i'm confused now
[18:36] <caskaid> llutz, just meant not "always"
[18:36] <unwanted-d> i have 6 gb ram, so must be 12 gb ?
[18:36] <holstein> unwanted-d: i would let the installer automatially do it, to clear up confusion
[18:36] <unwanted-d> ok
[18:36] <unwanted-d> so i create only the / partition
[18:36] <unwanted-d> for ubuntu instalation
[18:37] <holstein> unwanted-d: i would create empty useable space, and let the installer use it
[18:37] <unwanted-d> so
[18:38] <unwanted-d> i hit the " install now" and it says : if you do not go back to the partitioning menu and assign a swap partition the installation will continue without swap space.
[18:38] <holstein> unwanted-d: i would start from the beginning, and let the installer automatically partition the free space
[18:39] <caskaid> unwanted-d, that means you're still doing it manually
[18:39] <caskaid> unwanted-d, do what holstein suggests
[18:39] <unwanted-d> yeah but i have to install it manually because there is erase the entire hdd
[18:39] <unwanted-d> and i dont want to erase it all
[18:39] <gustavo_cm> Hello there. Is it only me who's getting "errors found in 1 file" in Ubuntu 12.04.2 DVD images, both i386 and amd64?
[18:40] <holstein> unwanted-d: dont erase, just install in the free space .. or https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PartitioningSchemes
[18:40] <unwanted-d> done
[18:40] <unwanted-d> i did created the swap partition myself with 13 gb on it, now the instalation started
[18:40] <unwanted-d> still the same holstein  right ?
[18:40] <unwanted-d> or i did a mess ?
[18:41] <holstein> unwanted-d: i have no idea, without seeing what you did.. what did i suggest? letting the installer do it.. what did you do? you did it manually.. did you do it properly? depends
[18:41] <gustavo_cm> unwanted-d: 13 GiB seems a LOT more than you need for swap. Make it the size of your RAM, so you can hibernate your computer.
[18:41] <unwanted-d> i have 6 gb ram
[18:41] <caskaid> gustavo_cm, it's possible, when did you download the 12.04.2 image? I've used a 12.04.2 image recently ~1week ago without issue
[18:42] <gustavo_cm> unwanted-d: Then make a 6 GB swap.
[18:42] <unwanted-d> can be resized after the instalation gustavo_cm  ?
[18:42] <gustavo_cm> caskaid: 16 fev... did they change anything?
[18:43] <caskaid> unwanted-d, if you're using more than 6gig swap on top of 6gig physical then you're doing something crazy ;)
[18:43] <gustavo_cm> unwanted-d: sure. Do you know how to change partitions? That link holstein provided should help you.
[18:43] <unwanted-d> something crazy caskaid ? i'm already scared
[18:43] <unwanted-d> define crazy hehe
[18:44] <caskaid> gustavo_cm, I don't think so. I think that would be noticed pretty quickly if there was an error in a file
[18:44] <holstein> unwanted-d: if you are "scared" or "unsure".. let the installer do it automatcially for you
[18:44] <caskaid> unwanted-d, i meant that most users wont use/need more than 6gig swap
[18:44] <unwanted-d> already the instalation started holstein
[18:44] <holstein> unwanted-d: then, enjoy your installed system
[18:45] <unwanted-d> caskaid:  what can be ? only wasted hdd memory right ? or something bad will happen ?
[18:45] <gustavo_cm> caskaid: sure enough... I double-checked, even "md5sum -c md5sums.txt" in the mounted ISO gives errors. I used torrent and verified it with Transmisson... no errors found there.
[18:45] <holstein> unwanted-d: nothing bad will happen due to the size of the ...its just not necessary
[18:45] <gustavo_cm> unwanted-d: only waste of space. No aliens shall come to you.
[18:46] <caskaid> unwanted-d, running out of swap is bad, but I don't see that happening with 6gig or more
[18:46] <caskaid> unwanted-d, you're good
[18:46] <unwanted-d> hahaha
[18:46] <unwanted-d> aliens he said
[18:46] <gustavo_cm> :-)
[18:46] <unwanted-d> you guys ROCKZ
[18:46] <caskaid> gustavo_cm, weird... might try ubuntu's official .iso link then??
[18:46] <unwanted-d> best helpers always here
[18:46] <gustavo_cm> :-) thanks
[18:47] <gustavo_cm> caskaid: I'll give it a try, sure; it's the only way...
[18:47] <caskaid> gustavo_cm, i just feel like an alarm would go off with people if it was in fact a bad copy of the .iso
[18:47] <caskaid> via the torrent
[18:47] <unwanted-d> i would get some beer, but i'm taking antibiotics, and i'm jealous to see you guys having beer and me .. not
[18:48] <anto> I'm trying to use Ubuntu in my office computer. I've issues in getting the exchange 2010 emails to work. Any suggestions?
[18:48] <gustavo_cm> caskaid: I think that too... Of course, I obtained the .torrent through an unencrypted connection, someone could be in the middle...
[18:48] <BluesKaj> no beer here , just juice ....for now
[18:48] <bjensen> Hi guys. Im buying a HP DL120 1U server to run with ubuntu LTS, can you guys give any  suggestions as to which ECC memory to for ?
[18:49] <unwanted-d> gotta go now, thank you holstein  gustavo_cm  caskaid , much appreciated. A nice day
[18:49] <layer3> [troy] http://www.crucial.com/store/listparts.aspx?model=ProLiant%20DL120%20G7&Cat=RAM
[18:50] <caskaid> gustavo_cm, yeah. One of the reasons I usually only get the .iso's from a server.. just in case.
[18:50] <caskaid> unwanted-d, np
[18:50] <Tex_Nick> 12.10 with gnome classic de ... i recently added a second monitor, it worked fine till i rebooted ... on reboot the bios POST is displayed on both monitors & GRUB is displayed on both monitors ... when it gets to the lightdm login, i loose one monitor ... at the desktop i have to use the "display settings" to toggle the inactive monitor off then back on ... what can i do to not have to go through that kludge ?
[18:51] <caskaid> Tex_Nick, what drivers are you using? what video card, etc?
[18:51] <j2daosh> where is the dd symbol list file located?
[18:51] <meLon> My mouse keeps getting stuck on DISPLAY=:0.1. http://askubuntu.com/questions/261574/cursor-trapped-on-secondary-x-screen
[18:51] <j2daosh> i want to see what it can convert to
[18:53] <gustavo_cm> caskaid: just double checked it. Could you please obtain the 12.04.2 amd64 and i386 DVD torrents from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/12.04.2/release/ and print here they sha256sum?
[18:53] <gustavo_cm> their*
[18:54] <dsprc> i have a problem with Xorg. i can get to lightdm but after i enter my credentials it does not load the desktop but instead displays a blank screen for a second then kicks me back to the lightdm login screen. 'startx' just blanks out too
[18:54] <caskaid> gustavo_cm, yup... give me a sec
[18:54] <dendazen> glusterfs or nfsv4
[18:54] <gustavo_cm> Ok, thanks!
[18:54] <dendazen> Thats the question
[18:54] <Tex_Nick> caskaid : AMD A6-3500 APU with AMD Radeon 6530D graphics with the AMD/ATI display driver wrapper from xserv-xorg-video-ati(open source, tested)
[18:55] <caskaid> Tex_Nick, ahh I see. I had an issue similar with the Nvidia drivers and needed to foice the nvidia control panel to save changes to xorg.conf
[18:56] <caskaid> Tex_Nick, not sure if there's a similar strategy for AMD
[18:56] <Tex_Nick> caskaid : yeah, i think i'm going to have to manually configure that ... hey thanks for the input :-)
[18:57] <caskaid> gustavo_cm, ubuntu-12.04.2-dvd-amd64.iso correct file name i'm getting?
[18:57] <caskaid> Tex_Nick, np
[18:57] <gustavo_cm> caskaid: yes, it is. The torrent :-)
[18:58] <caskaid> k
[19:01] <caskaid> gustavo_cm, just waiting...
[19:01] <gustavo_cm> For what?
[19:01] <caskaid> nm
[19:01] <gustavo_cm> ok :-)
[19:01] <caskaid> gustavo_cm, 876ec1b960c7da0f314c0a70f19c8c6c55a630ebe54ddb6d7a32d1da7ca1a159  ubuntu-12.04.2-dvd-amd64.iso
[19:03] <gustavo_cm> caskaid: Oh, thanks :-) I meant the torrents's sha256, but thie is useful too. Different sums, no match...  damn it. Either Transmission has a bug, or I am being attacked :-) Thank you very much. See you!
[19:03] <gustavo_cm> this*
[19:03] <[[Chris]]> Hello
[19:03] <caskaid> gustavo_cm, ahhh...
[19:03] <porcoazurro> Hello! Can someone please help me reveal the tray icon for Rhythmbox? I've already set whitelist to 'all' and rebooted. Still nothing.
[19:04] <gustavo_cm> caskaid: (that was the sha256, right?)
[19:04] <caskaid> gustavo_cm, sorry first one might not have been accurate as it hadn't finished all the way
[19:04] <caskaid> yes
[19:04] <[[Chris]]> I´m new hello
[19:04] <caskaid> one sec
[19:04] <gustavo_cm> Ok :-)
[19:04] <caskaid> gustavo_cm, let me go back and get you the actual torrent's sha256
[19:05] <gustavo_cm> [[Chris]]: Hi, this is IRC. Just go to the point, this is the IRC etiquette. :-)
[19:05] <gustavo_cm> caskaid: ok, thanks
[19:05] <caskaid> 0decb3b97c95a2c18726eb786726047d1aa0929d7dde73dca9b48fac28e2c69a  ubuntu-12.04.2-dvd-amd64.iso.torrent
[19:05] <caskaid> 0decb3b97c95a2c18726eb786726047d1aa0929d7dde73dca9b48fac28e2c69a  ubuntu-12.04.2-dvd-amd64.iso.torrent
[19:06] <caskaid> matches on at least the .torrent file?
[19:06] <gustavo_cm> caskaid: that matches, thanks. It's probably Transmission... I'll check that later. I have to go, good day/evening/whatever :-)
[19:06] <caskaid> gustavo_cm, np later
[19:08] <porcoazurro> hello, i'm looking for a way to show rhythmbox tray controls in ubuntu 12.10.
[19:10] <wachpwnski1> How do you set a program to start on boot-up in a certain workspace? Is that possible?
[19:17] <crisechia> ciao
[19:18] <jdukiet> guess everyone is sleeping
[19:19] <theadmin> I'm experiencing issues with Brasero. After burning, it fails to eject the disk, even though the drive has an eject function that is otherwise accessible with software (e.g. with "eject" from terminal). Secondly, when I insert another disk to burn a next copy, it fails to detect it, but if I start the burn anew (going through settings and stuff), it works.
[19:21] <jdukiet> theadmin: I have the same problem with Brasero. Haven't figured it out yet.
[19:21] <theadmin> jdukiet: Hm, glad I'm not the only one. Are you using some alternative, if so which?
[19:21]  * nutterpc yawns
[19:21] <nutterpc> morning all
[19:22] <jdukiet> theadmin: I've just been doing the same as you.
[19:23] <theadmin> Guess I could use xfburn... That works
[19:23] <theadmin> Odd, though.
[19:23] <theadmin> I'mma file a bug report
[19:23] <jdukiet> theadmin: just ejecting manually and starting new.
[19:24] <jdukiet> theadmin: is xfburn a good alternative ?
[19:24] <theadmin> jdukiet: It's quite decent, yes, pretty much can do all the same things
[19:26] <jdukiet> theadmin: I just started using Brasero because devede started it automaticly the first time I converted an m4v
[19:26] <infexion> I was wondering if anyone can help me. I am trying to modify the theme of the login screen on ubuntu
[19:26] <infexion> Not the background but the theme of the login window itself
[19:27] <jdukiet> jdukiet: I am still pretty new to ubuntu, and haven't researched any other programs yet
[19:28] <jdukiet> infexion: grub-customizer will do it
[19:28] <cristian_c> Hi
[19:28] <infexion> jdukiet: grub modifies grub though
[19:29] <Spine> the ext4 file system creation in partition #1 of SCSI3 (0,0,0) (sdb) failed.
[19:29] <cristian_c> I can't browse my android device via bluetooth
[19:29] <cristian_c> I've found 'Browse Files on Device'
[19:29] <infexion> jdukiet: and I am not looking to modify grub I am looking to modify the login screen
[19:29] <cristian_c> but I get an error
[19:29] <pepee> is ia32-libs really needed in quantal?
[19:30] <jrib> pepee: nope
[19:30] <jdukiet> infexion: yeah, but i saw some options for it when i was changing my boot order with it.
[19:30] <pepee> jrib, are you sure?
[19:30] <infexion> jdukiet: I will check it again
[19:30] <jrib> pepee: what do you want to accomplish?
[19:31] <infexion> jdukiet: thank you
[19:31] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[19:31] <pepee> jrib, remove bluez-alsa:i386
[19:31] <zergRusher> What is the channel for Ubuntu Touch? If there is one...
[19:31] <pepee> I don't know why is it a dependency of ia32-libs ...
[19:31] <Faris> Hi. I'm still on Ubuntu 10.10, and apt-get update tells me that repos are not working anymore. Where could I find working repositories for this old release ?
[19:32] <theadmin> Faris: You can't. It's EOL.
[19:32] <jdukiet> infexion: look in the "appearance settings" i just looked and you can cange colors and even add a picture
[19:32] <jrib> pepee: well that's bluez-alsa:i386, not ia32-libs :) You can try to remove it if you don't want it and apt will warn you if it wants to remove other things too.  ia32-libs now just installs ia32-libs-multiarch which installs several libraries using multiarch
[19:32] <jdukiet> infexion: hope i helped
[19:32] <theadmin> Faris: There's old-releases.ubuntu.com, but it's never gonna be updated. El Psy Congroo.
[19:32] <zergRusher> Anyone? :)
[19:33] <pepee> jrib, also, install google-earth-stable from google's website
[19:33] <Faris> theadmin: Okay
[19:33] <wachpwnski1> wachpwnski1: test
[19:33] <pepee> jrib, uh, no, you can't install ia32-libs without installing bluez-alsa:i386, it's a dependency...
[19:33] <zergRusher> Im looking for more info regarding Ubuntu Phone/Touch, anyone know of the channel?
[19:33] <jrib> pepee: I didn't say the opposite
[19:34] <pepee> stupid, I know, but I didn't do it
[19:34] <jrib> pepee: what issues are you having installing google earth?
[19:34] <pepee> jrib, well, I can't uninstall the second package without removing the first one
[19:34] <Spine> the ext4 file system creation in partition #1 of SCSI3 (0,0,0) (sdb) failed.
[19:34] <jrib> pepee: yes
[19:35] <pepee> jrib, google earth needs ia32-libs, wich needs bluez-alsa:i386
[19:35] <pepee> I don't want bluez-alsa:i386, but I need ia32-libs
[19:35] <jrib> pepee: probably because that package for google earth is outdated.  If the dependencies are wrong, complain to the package creator
[19:36] <pepee> jrib, nah, is the latest one for amd64 from the website
[19:36] <Spine> is  it because im using the same stick for booting as install object?
[19:36] <zergRusher> Im surprised no one else here is interested in ubuntu touch, nor knows of any channels here on freenode for it :-/
[19:36] <Spine> Ive followed all the guidelines
[19:36] <jrib> pepee: that doesn't mean anything ;)
[19:36] <pepee> jrib, ah, yeah, sorry
[19:37] <jrib> pepee: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GoogleEarth has some instructions on creating your own googleearth package, you may have better luck that way
[19:37] <Spine> maybe i should set up the partition before starting the install
[19:37] <pepee> jrib, ok, thanks
[19:38] <pepee> ok, thank you very much, jrib
[19:38] <Spine> has anyone had the same problem here?
[19:39] <auronandace> !tablet | zergRusher
[19:39] <bekks> Spine: Which problem?
[19:39] <g-hennux> hi!
[19:39] <pepee> Spine, read the logs?
[19:39] <pepee> dmesg, etc
[19:40] <Spine> bekks: error message when partitioning usb drive for ubuntu
[19:40] <Spine> the ext4 file system creation in partition #1 of SCSI3 (0,0,0) (sdb) failed.
[19:40] <bekks> Spine: Do you try to install on the same device as you install from?
[19:40] <g-hennux> in my new ultrabook that has a 500GB drive plus a 24GB SSD, i want to install ubuntu. does it make sense to install the base system on the SSD, should i have /var or swap there, should i configure it as a disk cache etc?
[19:40] <Spine> Yes bekks
[19:40] <bean__> Spine: thats not how it works :)
[19:41] <bekks> Spine: Obviously, that is not supposed to work.
[19:41] <Spine> Dang ;p
[19:41] <Spine> cd rom is broken though. suggestions? 2nd stick should work
[19:42] <bekks> Spine: Use a second stick.
[19:42] <dsprc> i have a problem with Xorg. i can get to lightdm but after i enter my credentials it does not load the desktop but instead displays a blank screen for a second then kicks me back to the lightdm login screen. 'startx' just blanks out too
[19:42] <Spine> bekks: I`ll reporr back when I`m done
[19:42] <Spine> thanks
[19:43] <trism> dsprc: if you ctrl+alt+f1 and log in, is ~/.Xauthority owned by root? if so, delete it and try again
[19:44] <nutterpc> g-hennux, I'd go for the OS Install on the SSD, but /home partition on the 500Gb
[19:45] <g-hennux> nutterpc: thanks!
[19:46] <dsprc> trism: im logged into the console now && will do! :)
[19:47] <nutterpc> g-hennux, example: 512M /boot 2G swap rest of the 24Gb SSD as /, then in partition setup, add another for the 500Gb formatted for /home
[19:48] <nutterpc> i must go get ready for work, sigh, lol
[19:48]  * nutterpc mumbles
[19:48] <miguel3> Hello, after receiving a kernel update (to Linux 3.5.0-25-generic) my sound no longer works. I can't run alsamixer as my normal user (No such file or dir) but it works with sudo. I am in the "audio" group. Any ideas?
[19:48] <dsprc> trism: well it work and got openbox up but now all kinds of things are crashing... let me reboot; maybe something else is borked
[19:48] <nutterpc> miguel3, check alsamixer isnt set to mute
[19:50] <miguel3> nutterpc: it's not muted. Also when opening VLC it says my audio device "default" could not be used. It worked fine before the kernel update.
[19:50] <miguel3> but that could be because my user can't access alsamixer
[19:50] <nutterpc> lsmod to check to see if the sound module as well is loaded
[19:51] <theadmin> miguel3: Since it seems to be a result of a kernel update, boot to the old kernel (Ubuntu keeps those), file a bug report and hope it'll be fixed.
[19:51]  * nutterpc goes to find his shoes
[19:51] <baumy> I have ubuntu 12.04.2 server installed on a desktop with an nvidia gtx 580, using slim as a login manager and i3 as a window manager. on boot into slim, i get weird black artifacts on screen as if the default console is displaying and random pixels of it are showing through to my desktop. if i kill xserver from i3 (alt+shift+e), slim restarts and the issue is gone and doesn't appear to come back. what is going on?
[19:52] <miguel3> nutterpc: lsmos | grep snd --> it seems it's loaded
[19:52] <dsprc> trism: cool beans. all is well now. +1 karma
[19:52] <miguel3> theadmin: ok, I will boot from old kernel and file a report
[19:52] <theadmin> miguel3: (use "ubuntu-bug linux-image-3.5.0-25-generic" to do so)
[19:53] <miguel3> theadmin: does it matter if i'm on a minimal instalation?
[19:53] <theadmin> miguel3: Hm, shouldn't, but the "apport" package has to be installed for that command to be available.
[19:54] <ntg> my ubuntu server doesn't update a dns record for a subdomain.. any way to force it?
[19:55] <goose> Short of the /etc/wgetrc or ~/.wgetrc files, is there any way to use an http(s) proxy with wget?
[19:56] <baumy> I don't know if it's worth noting that the artifcating only happens in the 20-30% of the screens, which are both hooked up to the 580. the one on the left is 1080p, the right is 1200p
[19:56] <baumy> *in the top 20-30% of the screens
[19:57] <miguel3> q
[19:57] <tawnee> As a follow-up from earlier, Wubi installed just fine on a non-EUFI Windows 8 PC.
[19:58] <bekks> tawnee: Because wubi doesnt even know a thing about it :) It just uses whatever Windows uses.
[19:59] <dsprc> goose: '--proxy-user=usernamehere' and '--proxy-pasword=yourpw' could also do posts to forms.. maybe
[20:00] <tawnee> bekks, I had asked about it earlier given the website's warning that wubi doesn't work with Win8. I was advised to just try it and did.
[20:00] <goose> dsprc: it's an anonymouse http proxy. I can add "http_proxy = http://domain:port/" to my ~/.wgetrc, but if there's a way to add that as a command line argument I'd rather do that
[20:01] <bekks> tawnee: Ah I see. Didnt you have a chance to use a real install of Ubuntu?
[20:02] <tawnee> I didn't have a free partition to give it. :<
[20:02] <dsprc> goose: dont know what arguments or switches you would pass for that. can always specify an alternate config file though
[20:02] <goose> might have to.
[20:02] <SonikkuAmerica> tawnee: You might've shrunk your Windows partition.
[20:02] <bekks> tawnee: You could repartition as well, dont you? Anyway, wubi works for you now :)
[20:03] <SonikkuAmerica> Although it eats up resources much faster than a partitioned install
[20:04] <R0b1nasd> quit
[20:05] <ykorkmaz> Hi, i need to install 12.04 LTS server with usb, can anyone help me ?
[20:05] <bean__> ykorkmaz: extract ISO to usb, boot, install, done?
[20:06] <ykorkmaz> i mean, install with bootable usb
[20:06] <bekks> ykorkmaz: And whats the problem with it?
[20:06] <ykorkmaz> i tried yo install like that
[20:06] <BluesKaj> Wubi isn't for serious ubuntu users , it's ok exploration and experimentation of a linux install that's all.
[20:06] <bekks> ykorkmaz: And whats the problem with it?
[20:06] <ykorkmaz> but in one step off installation, it says there is an error and return to options screen
[20:07] <tawnee> eh, now that this is working it seems I've short-sightedly made my wubi drive too small... how do I expand it?
[20:07] <tawnee> This install is admittedly just to install TF2 and get my linux penguin. All my other ubuntu boxes have real installs, but aren't suited for gaming.
[20:08] <holstein> tawnee: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ResizeandDuplicateWubiDisk
[20:08] <Pwnguin1> I have lubuntu now and maybe its a good but its not ultimate
[20:08] <Pwnguin1> and you know what? i want it to be ultimate which is a thing that the lubuntu cant be. and not W7 either actually.
[20:08] <Pwnguin1> I think maybe I should forget about the L and just get the regular ubuntu instead?
[20:08] <Pwnguin1> my lapstops is a litle small on the hard wares though. i am not sure can i get some suggestions and directions?
[20:08] <FloodBot1> Pwnguin1: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:08] <Pwnguin1> I thought it was one message not a big one.
[20:08] <bekks> ykorkmaz: There is no need to contact me outside this channel.
[20:09] <Pwnguin1> I mean not many messages
[20:09] <ykorkmaz> ok
[20:09] <tawnee> thanks holstein
[20:09] <holstein> Pwnguin1: you can try main ubuntu live, or add the main ubuntu desktop to lubuntu,, and have both unity and LXDE..
[20:09] <ykorkmaz> how can i extract iso file to usb? i'm currently using unetbootin in win7
[20:09] <Jobbe> Anyone here had luck getting Airtime working on Ubuntu Server ?
[20:09] <Pwnguin1> holstein: i will look at this
[20:09] <holstein> ykorkmaz: AFAIK, you can dd copy the iso's.. i have used unetbootin
[20:10] <ykorkmaz> dd copy ?
[20:11] <ykorkmaz> when i used unebootin for mini.iso file or netinstall, it says boot loader is missing during the usb boot
[20:11] <holstein> ykorkmaz: i used the server iso... the mini is not the server iso... dont know if those can be dd copied
[20:12] <theadmin> ykorkmaz: Unetbootin doesn't work, use dd
[20:12] <ykorkmaz> ok
[20:12] <LargePrime> HEYO! I have a "adding static ip to network interface" issue  google seems divided.  Any help please?
[20:12] <theadmin> ykorkmaz: On Windows, use Win32 Image Writer. Also, IIRC the mini iso can't boot from USB
[20:12] <bean__> LargePrime: how so
[20:12] <FLeiXiuS> Is there a way to list the boot process order  for everything in /etc/init?
[20:12] <bean__> LargePrime: pretty easy to add a static
[20:12] <LargePrime> I am adding 4 ips to UBUNTU server 12.10
[20:13] <LoneTrooper> hi is there program for linux that is able to display all folders and subfolders within directory except text based called tree? (sudo apt-get install tree) im lookin for one that with graphical user interface
[20:13] <bean__> LargePrime: pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces
[20:13] <holstein> ykorkmaz: im not finding anything in a quick search, but it shouldnt take long to dd copy a minimal iso over and test
[20:13] <theadmin> FLeiXiuS: There's no order, Upstart is concurrent, daemonss tart as soon as the appropriate event is emmitted, multiple can start at the same time
[20:13] <FLeiXiuS> theadmin, I have a process or something that's causing my boot to stop completely.  No messages no nothing.  I Just know that it stops after bluetooth is enabled.
[20:14] <tgm4883> FLeiXiuS, have you looked at bootchart?
[20:14] <LargePrime> bean__ do you mind if i PM to keep them private?
[20:14] <bean__> LargePrime: IP addresses aren't really a private thing, but sure, i guess.
[20:14] <FLeiXiuS> tgm4883, This is actually for a live cd, so boot chart won't do much good right?  That'll generate the png after the boot has completed
[20:14] <ykorkmaz> i'm using win7 now, dd is not a windows program or command i think ?
[20:14] <baumy> regarding the problem I posted above, I inadvertently solved it. Uncommenting GRUB_TERMINAL=console in my grub.cfg stopped the artifacts from appearing. can anybody explain to me what was actually happening?
[20:14] <tgm4883> FLeiXiuS, I suppose so, I'd hope there was raw data somewhere
[20:14] <theadmin> ykorkmaz: As I said, on Windows, use Win32 Image Writer.
[20:15] <theadmin> ykorkmaz: There's a Windows port of dd but that's quite confusing in terms of usage
[20:15] <ykorkmaz> ok
[20:15] <ykorkmaz> I'm waiting to complete server iso download
[20:15] <ykorkmaz> i'll try win32 Image Writer
[20:15] <herol3oy> asd
[20:15] <theadmin> ykorkmaz: Why do you need the server ISO?
[20:16] <bean__> because he wants to install server?
[20:16] <ykorkmaz> yes
[20:16] <theadmin> bean__: A person who doesn't know how to use dd can't mantain a server.
[20:16] <ykorkmaz> i'm trying to install server
[20:16] <bean__> theadmin: fact.
[20:16] <LoneTrooper> ... or do u know good file manager program (lightweight, fast, customizable) except GUI based Thunar and text based Ranger?
[20:16] <ykorkmaz> theadmin : I'll get support from another person
[20:16] <bean__> ykorkmaz: you do know that server will have no graphical interface, yes?
[20:16] <bekks> ykorkmaz: Then why did you use the mini.iso?
[20:17] <bekks> bean__: Thats one of the benefits of a server :)
[20:17] <BrianBlaze> hello beautiful people!
[20:17] <ykorkmaz> yes, i need only console
[20:17] <bean__> bekks: i'm well aware.
[20:17] <theadmin> LoneTrooper: Xfe, rox-filer, mc and vifm are all quite great.
[20:17] <ClientAlive> I need to download multiple youtube videos and don't want to do them one at a time with keepvid. Does anyone know of a tool for linux that can do this? The problem is, the links on the search page have to be followed before you get to the actual video. So it would have to follow the links one level down then download that level.
[20:17] <BrianBlaze> I was wondering if anyone has this problem with Ubuntu 12.10, I can skype but can't watch videos or watch videos and not skype
[20:17] <ClientAlive> any ideas?
[20:17] <ykorkmaz> my company starts a trial about a mobile customer experience project
[20:17] <LoneTrooper> theadmin thx for response i will try your suggestions
[20:17] <ykorkmaz> and it uses linux server
[20:18] <bean__> ClientAlive: that sounds like something you would have to program
[20:18] <bjensen> layer3: thanks for the tip of memory. But how can I see wether the crucial memory it suggests is server grade?
[20:18] <layer3> Huh
[20:18] <bjensen> sorry I got dced earlier
[20:18] <theadmin> ClientAlive: I think DownThemAll for Firefox can do that.
[20:19] <bjensen> "bjensen: Hi guys. Im buying a HP DL120 1U server to run with ubuntu LTS, can you guys give any  suggestions as to which ECC memory to for ?"  "layer3: [troy] http://www.crucial.com/store/listparts.aspx?model=ProLiant%20DL120%20G7&Cat=RAM"
[20:19] <ClientAlive> theadmin: I have that and have been trying everything I can think of to get it to follow the link to the next level down. Do you know how to make it do that?
[20:19] <theadmin> ClientAlive: I'm not 100% sure. Just thought it did that, might be confusing it with something else.
[20:19] <ClientAlive> theadmin: oh, ok
[20:20] <ClientAlive> there are web scrapers for linux out there (a lot of them) but which is a good choice that will do what I need???
[20:20] <ClientAlive> idk...
[20:20] <tawnee> So I think I'm going to shuffle some partitions around and reinstall this proper. I haven't really used ubuntu since Hardy Heron -- I'm a bit taken back by how nice this is.
[20:21] <theadmin> ClientAlive: Hm, technically, httrack can do recursive web downloading (webhttrack is the GUI version), but I'm not quite sure if it will deal with Youtube.
[20:21] <lucezu> ClientAlive: I would recommend writing a simple script that gets your links to a file (i.e with Python + BeautifulSoup/lxml) and then use that file with quvi/cclive.
[20:21] <ClientAlive> ok
[20:23] <jacqueshinks> Morning world
[20:23] <jacqueshinks> Im having a shell problem, and Im looking for anyone who can help with it
[20:24] <gigglet> Running 12.10, when I login to my account, screen flashes black for a few seconds, then goes back to the login screen. Any ideas how to debug?
[20:24] <jacqueshinks> have you recently run updates gigglet?
[20:26] <LoneTrooper> that's weird.. to install Rox-filer form ubuntu software center it says i must remove aptdaemon in oder to continue but that thing is required for refreshing the cache, upgrading the system, installing or removing software packages so its important . What should i do?
[20:26] <FLeiXiuS> theadmin, Is there a way to have upstart print its current routine to console/
[20:26] <dantvli> hello! By default Ubuntu 12.04 LTS comes with Python 2.7.3. How does one upgrade this to the Version 3 (or above)?
[20:27] <bekks> dantvli: Most likely, no.
[20:27] <theadmin> dantvli: You don't "upgrade" python, you simply install python3 alongside with python2.
[20:27] <dantvli> is it just a simple apt-get
[20:27] <theadmin> dantvli: sudo apt-get install python3
[20:27] <dantvli> theadmin: okay. gotcha!
[20:28] <theadmin> dantvli: Your Python 3 scripts will need to run with #!/usr/bin/python3 or #!/usr/bin/env python3, though, rather than just #!/usr/bin/python or #!/usr/bin/env python
[20:29] <jacqueshinks> Im trying to run a command from my local machine, very intensive, over the network, via SSH on another system... anyone have any experience on this?
[20:30] <dantvli> theadmin: Thanks for the info. New to Python though... books says python 2 will be scraped it's only a matter of time. Then all will be python 3 moving forward. In other words, they're saying f* to incompatibility. Is that true?
[20:30] <dantvli> sorry, not incompatibility.. but backward compatibility
[20:30] <escott> jacqueshinks, yes
[20:31] <escott> !pm | jacqueshinks
[20:31] <theadmin> dantvli: Well, yeah, python2 is not compatible with python3. Currently, most distros choose to keep both. A lot of Ubuntu apps (Software Center, Unity, etc) are written in Python2. It will take ages before Python3 will truly become mainstream.
[20:31] <jacqueshinks> 10-4
[20:31] <jacqueshinks> I have something istalled locally, but Iam unable to get it to run on a remote machine,
[20:31] <theadmin> dantvli: If you want to make production apps with Python, using Python 2 may actually be the better choice, even if Python 3 is a much better language.
[20:32] <jacqueshinks> I run the command ssh root@server2 < /usr/bin/command
[20:32] <jacqueshinks> and it comes back saying it cant find the file
[20:32] <jacqueshinks> I tried 'bash -s' and hadit in a script, still says cant find the file
[20:32] <bekks> jacqueshinks: Omit the <
[20:33] <SuperLag> Where do you configure notifcation preferences at?
[20:33] <nOStahl> hey guys, what kind of video program can I use to create some animated text stuff for video intro
[20:33] <tute> hello does anyone here have experience with the nexus 7 on ubuntu?
[20:33] <nOStahl> tute: try #ubuntu-tablet
[20:33] <mikkel_> Hello. I am trying to SSH to a server i have gotten from university. How do i find the hostname of my server?
[20:34] <tute> nOStahl: i dont mean running ubuntu on a nexus
[20:34] <SuperLag> I have the Launcher hidden by default. I see an icon shake very shortly, the bar pops out, and then it goes away again. Is there any way I can get the notification to persist until I do something with it?
[20:34] <nOStahl> mikkel_: try the ip address of the server otherwise ask your administrator
[20:34] <jacqueshinks> Mikkel, if you know its ip, type in nslookup, then the serer ip,
[20:34] <dantvli> theadmin: well, okay. but as a matter of opinion (yours) which is better? to learn python 2 or python 3 as a beginner?
[20:34] <nOStahl> tute: ah, i'd still try #ubuntu-tablet they have experience with using the hardware syncing with ubuntu desktop etc
[20:34] <escott> dantvli, learn 3
[20:35] <theadmin> dantvli: As a beginner, probably Py3. It's much more logical and obvious.
[20:35] <mikkel_> i tried a tool to look up the IP when i was at university network, this IP wil not work however :s
[20:35] <jacqueshinks> bekks, tried that,
[20:35] <jacqueshinks> still failed
[20:35] <escott> dantvli, and thats not about ease of learning but rather that 3 is the stated direction of the language
[20:35] <dantvli> escott, theadmin: agreed.
[20:35] <tgm4883> mikkel_, do you have the server in your possession?
[20:35] <Orcie> :)
[20:35] <nOStahl> mikkel_: you'll need a public ip to remote in or vpn and then use that private ip your probably talking about
[20:36] <bekks> jacqueshinks: according to the man page, "ssh user@host command" works. The command must be a valid command for execution by user@host
[20:36] <Orcie> Can someone help me with a nginx problem?
[20:36] <nOStahl> Orcie: try #nginx channel
[20:36] <jacqueshinks> the command works fine locally, just fail on ssh to another machine.
[20:36] <escott> jacqueshinks, is /usr/bin/command on the local machine not the serveR?
[20:36] <SuperLag> dantvli: escott: theadmin:there's a LOT of debate about that py2 vs py3 question.... I opted to start with learning 3, as well, for the same reasons escott mentioned
[20:36] <jacqueshinks> Ive been through about 12 different versions of this.
[20:36] <jacqueshinks> yes its local
[20:36] <mikkel_> i dont have server in possesion. Nostahl im sure it is the external IP
[20:36] <nOStahl> mikkel_: what kind of server is it
[20:36] <elisa87> how can I find the process ID of ./vecadd.o (an application)?
[20:37] <jacqueshinks> but for some reason it thinks its supposed to find it on the server
[20:37] <Orcie> nOStahl: they send me here :)
[20:37] <mikkel_> ubuntu 12.10 server
[20:37] <escott> jacqueshinks, it would seem to be obvious why that wouldn't work. ssh opens a remote shell and runs programs in the remote shell
[20:37] <theadmin> elisa87: pidof ./vecadd.o
[20:37] <tgm4883> mikkel_, if you can't do "ssh <SERVER IP>" then there is nothing we'll be able to do to help you
[20:37] <nOStahl> Orcie: go back and tell them I sent you there, thats where nginx specific help is suppose to be located lol
[20:37] <mikkel_> you are right, i should probably talk to the administrator
[20:37] <escott> jacqueshinks, its like you are telling your neighbor to make eggs with your eggs and your frying pan in their kitchen
[20:37] <mikkel_> thanks!
[20:37] <Orcie> nOStahl: it has to with a distro integration problemn
[20:37] <nOStahl> mikkel_: np
[20:37] <jacqueshinks> it is, yes
[20:38] <jacqueshinks> Im unable to install this software on that serer
[20:38] <nOStahl> Orcie: i'll see you over in #nginx
[20:38] <escott> jacqueshinks, or more apt to this discussion i could really use another cup of tea so please refill my mug
[20:38] <jacqueshinks> But Ineed to run the processes that are on my system
[20:38] <jacqueshinks> I have a zero carb rock star here
[20:38] <escott> jacqueshinks, then run them locally. ssh doesn't have anything to do with that
[20:38] <bekks> jacqueshinks: Which is impossible. The have to exist on the remote system.
[20:39] <dantvli> theadmin: right, just installed Python3.2. Entered the command python -V; its version is still 2.7.3. How do I make it to use the latest version?
[20:39] <tgm4883> dantvli, 'python3 -V'
[20:39] <zAo^> dantvli: or python3.3 ;)
[20:40] <theadmin> dantvli: "python3" is the command for Python 3.
[20:40] <dantvli> tgm4883: so, to compile .py scripts, it'll always be python3 filename.py ?
[20:40] <theadmin> dantvli: Yes.
[20:40] <tgm4883> dantvli, yes, unless you want to change the symlink
[20:40] <theadmin> tgm4883: Don't do that unless you want half of apps to break to heck
[20:40] <escott> dantvli, compile isn't the right term. but yes. you should set the shebang to python3 for scripts you write
[20:41] <root__> hi
[20:41] <root__> why am i root__
[20:41] <escott> dantvli, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shebang_%28Unix%29
[20:41] <tgm4883> theadmin, true
[20:41] <root__> how do i change name in irssi?
[20:41] <jacqueshinks> so escott, this is not going to happen, if Idont install on that system?
[20:41] <tgm4883> personally, I just set it in the file, set the file as executable and run ./file.py
[20:41] <minas> where can I find the libgnutls for 32 bits to download? I can't find it in the repositories because my pc is 64 bits, so the 64 bits is in the repository
[20:42] <theadmin> minas: sudo apt-get install libgnutls:i386
[20:42] <escott> jacqueshinks, yes i agree its not going to happen
[20:42] <escott> jacqueshinks, what do you want us to say?
[20:42] <tgm4883> jacqueshinks, you can't run things on a system when they don't exist
[20:42] <bekks> jacqueshinks: Correct.
[20:42] <janisoza1r> !kernel
[20:43] <ner0x> Most common ldap server for ubuntu?
[20:43] <tgm4883> ner0x, probably openldap?
[20:43] <bekks> ner0x: openldap :)
[20:43] <ner0x> Does it do anything more than just contacts?
[20:43] <bekks> Yes.
[20:43] <minas> theadmin, thanks
[20:44] <janisoza1r> !mainline
[20:44]  * ner0x looks it up.
[20:45] <dantvli> escott: i think I meant to say interpret? rather than compile (java). that right?
[20:45] <escott> dantvli, yes
[20:49] <antz_> yoooooooooooooo
[20:49] <elisa87> Is there any solution to this? I have installed a 32 bit package in my 64bit machine. Is there anyway to circumvent this error?
[20:50] <escott> elisa87, why do you consider that an error?
[20:50] <BluesKaj> elisa87, it's not as serious as you think , depends on how much RAM to make a difference
[20:51] <elisa87> !ENTRY org.eclipse.osgi 4 0 2013-02-26 14:48:25.932
[20:51] <elisa87> !MESSAGE Application error
[20:51] <elisa87> !STACK 1
[20:51] <elisa87> java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: Cannot load 32-bit SWT libraries on 64-bit JVM
[20:51] <elisa87>  BluesKaj
[20:51] <FloodBot1> elisa87: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:52] <zAo^> Any way to install MainlineBuilds via apt/automagically?
[20:53] <BluesKaj> elisa87, what package is it ?
[20:53] <minas> I am trying to run League of legends using wine. It has been installed successfully, but I can't log-in (I get server busy, and then a message that I couldn't connect for no apparent reason). On my terminal these are printed: http://pastebin.com/svJj2FgJ   Note that I had a Rad not implemented error later but "fixed" (?) it by disabling the rasapi32 library.
[20:53]  * _goxxsy_ veche ! :-) :D
[20:53] <elisa87> https://outreach.scidac.gov/frs/?group_id=22  hpcviewer-5.3.2-r1514-linux.gtk.x86.tgz BluesKaj
[20:53] <minas> It's something with netowrking I think.
[20:54] <Spine> ubuntu 12.04 is installing, thanks for the help
[20:55] <escott> elisa87, so either install a 32bit jvm or download and install a 64 bit version of that program
[20:55] <unheeding> did quantal get bumped up to kernel 3.7?
[20:55] <BluesKaj> elisa87, sudo dpkg -r hpcviewer , the install the 64 bit one
[20:55] <elisa87> escott Should I install eclipse 64 bit? BluesKaj
[20:56] <elisa87> dpkg: warning: there's no installed package matching hpcviewer
[20:56] <escott> elisa87, i dont know how java handles multiarch but its probably easier to have a single java implementation that is the same across all packages
[20:56] <escott> elisa87, because you didnt use checkinstall
[20:56] <escott> !checkinstall | elisa87
[20:57] <escott> elisa87, since you didnt use checkinstall you have to deal with it yourself, and hope that make uninstall doesnt break your system
[20:57] <elisa87> when should I do the check install?
[20:58] <root_> hm
[20:58] <unheeding> oh nm, xorg-edgers tricked me
[21:00] <auronandace> !rootirc | antz__
[21:00] <elisa87> escott To install hpcviewer, unpack the tar file, cd into its directory (the
[21:00] <elisa87> directory containing this README file) and run:
[21:00] <elisa87>    ./install [-j java-dir] install-dir
[21:00] <elisa87> escott it's not a make install it's ./install now how I can use checkinstall?
[21:00] <escott> elisa87, you may not be able to
[21:01] <elisa87> escott is there any other option?
[21:01] <escott> elisa87, but we cannot tell you what to do in that case
[21:01] <escott> elisa87, except be careful and try not to break things, try to install to a safe directory like ~/bin or /usr/local/bin or /opt
[21:02] <plautus_> hay
[21:04] <antz> yo
[21:04] <antz> :D
[21:04] <antz> if i disable network-manager via /etc/init.d/network-manager stop
[21:04] <antz> who takes care of wireless now
[21:04] <antz> which software?
[21:05] <LargePrime> THANKS bean__  !!!  ALL HAIL BEAN.  THANKS ALL YOU UBUNTUINAS
[21:05] <bean__> lolll
[21:05] <bean__> Just doin what I can
[21:05] <antz> yo bean__
[21:05] <antz> help a nigga out
[21:05] <bean__> lolll
[21:05] <antz> i want to diable network-manager
[21:05] <antz> then who takes over
[21:06] <bean__> why
[21:06] <antz> for wireless
[21:06] <antz> network-manager is buggy
[21:06] <bean__> !enter
[21:06] <FloodBot1> antz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:06] <antz> !enter
[21:06] <dantvli> theadmin, escort, tgm4883: thank you guys!
[21:06] <bean__> antz: i'd suggest installing WICD if networking manager is giving you trouble
[21:06] <antz> bean__: you gon answer?
[21:06] <antz> WICD?
[21:07] <bean__> !info wicd
[21:07] <antz> is wicd sudo-apt getable?
[21:07] <bean__> yes
[21:08] <LargePrime> bean, you might share with your homies teh postup and post down thing
[21:08] <LargePrime> it sexy
[21:08] <bean__> meh, I rarely deal with that issue, to be honest.
[21:08] <bean__> and I don't really know anyone else here.
[21:08] <pawleeq> hello
[21:08] <bean__> everyone here is a volunteer.
[21:10] <pawleeq> I have installed oracle java  7 via webupd8 instructions, however after some updates id stoped working
[21:10] <pawleeq> I have reinstalled it, but still it does not work, what might be wrong?
[21:10] <holstein> pawleeq: in what way? you should try removing it, and using the canonnical provided ones for support here
[21:11] <datnameone> do you guys think that a 17.3" laptop with i3 2328M 2.2ghz and GeForce GT 635M worth 600 euros?
[21:11] <bean__> !offtopic | datnameone
[21:12] <holstein> datnameone: "worth" is a matter of opinion... try the offtopic chat
[21:12] <pawleeq> holstein, well i also installed openjdk-6-jre, but still it does not do what I need
[21:12] <holstein> pawleeq: but, its functioning? where as 7 is not?
[21:13] <pawleeq> holstein, no it does not
[21:13] <holstein> pawleeq: and you have purged the ppa?
[21:13] <pawleeq> no
[21:14] <pawleeq> holstein, no
[21:14] <pawleeq> holstein, so what should be the steps to prperly remove oracle java and install tha canonical one?
[21:14] <holstein> pawleeq: thats what i would do.. clean up the ppa version, and reinstall the supported version and test.. otherwise, let the ppa maintainer know whats going on
[21:14] <holstein> !info purge-ppa
[21:15] <antz> how do we get bot access?
[21:15] <bean__> ? anyone can use the bot commands antz
[21:15] <bean__> just dont abuse them
[21:15] <antz> what are commands?
[21:15] <antz> !netflix
[21:15] <antz> oh ok
[21:16] <holstein> pawleeq: this is a good start https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#Removing_.26_Disabling_Repositories
[21:17] <pawleeq> holstein, thanks, I need Java for online-banking and Oracle is what the bank recommends... wel I do not care, which package servers the purpose
[21:17] <bean__> that sounds terrifying, pawleeq
[21:18] <bean__> do they not know that java is absolutely terrifying as a web plugin?
[21:18] <holstein> pawleeq: chck and make sure its not just disabled in the browser then.. though, disabling in the browser has been considered "good practice" recently and might have been done automatically
[21:18] <avrelaun> indeed, all plugins are horrible from a security point of view
[21:18] <avrelaun> Mozilla will disable all plugins by default in the near future
[21:19] <pawleeq> bean, well, thay are bank(st)ers...
[21:19] <avrelaun> that pretty much self explanatory
[21:19] <bilou23> I have deleted myself from all groups by mistake but now I have been able to use a live cd and mount. What should I do then?
[21:19] <pawleeq> holstein, ok, thanks
[21:20] <holstein> pawleeq: http://javatester.org/ should tell you if your browser is using java, and you can search how to enable it.. and i would just go back and disable right after, or run a separate browser for banking
[21:20] <holstein> bilou23: you can go in with the recovery console as root and add yourself back
[21:21] <antz> where do you get binary for ubuntu?
[21:21] <bilou23> holstein: it s not possible with live cd? I ve just did the whole setup and ready to start
[21:22] <holstein> bilou23: the way i would do it is from the root recovery console. not sure how to edit permissions like that from a live CD.. maybe chroot in, but thats over my head
[21:22] <holstein> !chroot
[21:23] <holstein> !adduser
[21:23] <antz> !putty
[21:24] <bilou23> holstein: is this http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo what you mean by recovery way?
[21:24] <cobra> Sidebar Auto Hide when app pushes it not working on ubuntu 12.10
[21:26] <holstein> bilou23: thats the idea... you can add whatever user to whatever group as root from that recovery prompt
[21:26] <solancer> hey guys anyone here good with we design ?
[21:27] <solancer> jus have a few questions
[21:28] <holstein> solancer: maybe "we design" would be more appropriate in the offtopic channel?
[21:29] <solancer> holstein, great!
[21:29] <solancer> holstein, I can PM you
[21:29] <holstein> solancer: ok
[21:29] <bilou23> holstein: thx for the confirmation Im gonna try this out
[21:31] <slipky> hi, im having trouble to make my bluetooth dongle work on ubuntu 12.04, keep saying: "Bluetooth:On" then i go to settings and i get "Bluetooth is disabled"  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5568862/
[21:35] <LargePrime> ubuntu server 12.10 on a dedicated server.  I have ssh working .  I want to install Simple machine forums, but can fing no good guide.  Thoughts?
[21:35] <arjansmeets> hello there. I'm having troubles with logging in via ssh. I was hoping someone here could help me out since I can't find the answers on Google :(
[21:36] <LargePrime> what is you r client os?
[21:36] <LargePrime> what is you r client os? arjansmeets
[21:36] <arjansmeets> Windows7 x64
[21:36] <LargePrime> arjansmeets:  youhve putty?
 Yes :)
[21:37] <LargePrime> arjansmeets:  you have created public private key and saved them clearly labeled?
[21:37] <LargePrime> you have passphrase on the private?
[21:38] <arjansmeets> erm, how do you mean? I do not work with keys atm, just with user / password
[21:38] <bekks> arjansmeets: Did you install the ssh server on Ubuntu?
[21:38] <LargePrime> then you not have ssh
[21:38] <bekks> LargePrime: Thats not true.
[21:39] <bekks> LargePrime: Of course you can use ssh without public key authentication. You even have to, before being able to set it up.
[21:40] <arjansmeets> Hm wait I was confused, I do have a public key. This is the screen that pops up after the first time of connecting right?
[21:40] <bekks> arjansmeets: No. :)
[21:40] <arjansmeets> Sigh
[21:40] <bekks> arjansmeets: However, your key doesnt matter at the moment. What happens when trying to connect using ssh using putty to the IP of your Ubuntu?
[21:41] <arjansmeets> It asks me for my username and password
[21:41] <bekks> arjansmeets: And?
[21:41] <arjansmeets> After that it says Acces Denied
[21:41] <bekks> arjansmeets: Which user do you use?
[21:41] <_genuser_> then you don't have the password
[21:41] <arjansmeets> And I'm 100% sure that the password is correct
[21:41] <arjansmeets> admin user
[21:41] <bekks> arjansmeets: Whats the user name?
[21:41] <arjansmeets> admin
[21:42] <bekks> arjansmeets: Then your password is either wrong or not set.
[21:43] <arjansmeets> bekks: how can I verify that?
[21:43] <solancer> arjansmeets, have you tried connecting from windows to ubuntu ?
[21:43] <bekks> arjansmeets: By logging in locally on that computer, e.g.
[21:43] <bekks> solancer: Thats what he's doing.
[21:43] <arjansmeets> bekks: I did
[21:44] <arjansmeets> bekks: and that worked
[21:45] <bekks> arjansmeets: Then log in locally and check the configuration of sshd wether only public key auth is allowed or not.
[21:45] <arjansmeets> bekks: I'll try tat
[21:45] <arjansmeets> that
[21:45] <JokesOnYou77> Hi all, is there documentation for /var/log/ and what logs are supposed to go where (to which file)?
[21:46] <solancer> arjansmeets, check ur firewall settings
[21:47] <LargePrime> ubuntu server 12.10 on a dedicated server via ssh working .  I want to install Simple machine forums, but can find no good guide.  Thoughts?
[21:47] <arjansmeets> solancer: If it were my firewall settings I wouldn't get a connection at all right?
[21:47] <solancer> arjansmeets, why not ?
[21:48] <arjansmeets> solancer: I just thought so
[21:48] <solancer> arjansmeets, have a read of this simple guide and see if it helps http://www.liberiangeek.net/2010/03/how-to-access-ubuntu-systems-via-ssh-from-windows/
[21:50] <arjansmeets> bekks: It is set to yes
[21:50] <arjansmeets> bekss: That's correct right?
[21:50] <kamel---> installing ubuntu now
[21:50] <kamel---> :)
[21:52] <bekks> arjansmeets: Is it set to "public key auth only"? :)
[21:52] <arjansmeets> bekks: No itPublicAuth Yes
[21:56] <arjansmeets> hm
[21:56] <lordiuriluh> ola
[21:57] <arjansmeets> bekks: I fixed it. apt-get remove openssh-server, apt-get --purge remove openssh-server & apt-get install openssh-server did the trick
[21:57] <lordiuriluh> ola ,eu so novo no mundo linux mais gostei muito do sistema em
[21:57] <lordiuriluh> mas alguém poderia me ajudar com 2 programas isso me faria muito feliz
[21:58] <Corestrike> Hey guys. I have a quick question.
[21:58] <lucezu> lordiuriluh: this channel is for English support, please, see #ubuntu-pt
[21:58] <lordiuriluh> oi tem algum br ai
[21:58] <Corestrike> If I mount my HDD on Ubuntu, will it be left untouched on Windows 7?
[21:59] <bekks> Corestrike: That question doesnt make much sense. Could you rephrase it?
[21:59] <kunji> Corestrike: What do you mean untouched.. just mounting it won't do anything, but if you can write a file to it, then it will be there in Windows as well
[21:59] <Corestrike> kunji: That's basically what I meant.
[22:00] <Corestrike> kunji: Thanks for the help.
[22:00] <kunji> Corestrike: no problem
[22:04] <Sorinan> msg nickserv identify a7v8xx
[22:04] <Sorinan> ops
[22:04] <Sorinan> hahahah
[22:04] <tgm4883> lol
[22:04] <Sorinan> it happens :P
[22:04] <tgm4883> Sorinan, yep. should probably change that now
[22:05] <Sorinan> tgm4883, doing that right now :P
[22:05] <Quest> hibernate button is not visible on my menu. i have installed hibernate package though. using kde
[22:05] <Quest> any solution?
[22:07] <Quest> hibernate:Warning: Tuxonice binary signature file not found.
[22:07] <Sorinan> Is the old-fashioned Debian ncurses-based installer included in Ubuntu Desktop 12.10?
[22:09] <kunji> Sorinan: I believe not, though I don't know for sure
[22:10] <Pressure> helo
[22:11] <Pressure> im watching my auth log and i see some1 try to log in
[22:11] <dwatkins> My x86_64 Ubuntu 12.10 PC reboots itself sometimes when converting video and saving to my NAS via NFS, is there a known bug relating to this? I found Bug #561210 but it's only vaguely similar.
[22:11] <Pressure> Failed password for invalid user testuser from 109.237.216.101
[22:12] <Pressure> its slowing down my comp
[22:12] <Pressure> why its hapening?
[22:12] <kalenjohnson> dwatkins, converting video is pretty CPU intensive, have you checked the temps?
[22:13] <Pressure> dwatkins: what are u using to convert
[22:13] <dwatkins> kalenjohnson: yeah, the reboots happen when the average CPU temp is about 71 degrees centigrade, which is no higher than at other times it's been ok
[22:13] <Pressure> i know certain versions of FFMPEG have a bug
[22:13] <dwatkins> Pressure: HandBrakeCLI
[22:13] <Pressure> oh
[22:13] <dwatkins> Pressure: yeah, I think it uses ffmpeg
[22:13] <Pressure> not sure
[22:13] <Pressure> ok
[22:13] <Pressure> just make sure it uses latest version
[22:14] <Pressure> but then again that one could be messed up
[22:14] <dwatkins> I'm surprised a user-space application can cause the system to reboot, hence my thinking it was a network cache issue as in that bug, but I set the sysctl tuneables as someone suggested, and it reduced the frequency of the resets, but didn't remove them completely
[22:14] <Pressure> basicly try another version of it
[22:14] <Pressure> only way to fix
[22:14] <Pressure> or see
[22:14] <dwatkins> thanks, will look into it
[22:15] <Pressure> ive had that issue
[22:15] <dwatkins> I was thinking I might run sysstat to see if the caches fill-up that I've modified.
[22:17] <oldude67> whats the easiest way to format a 16 gig flashdrive?
[22:17] <bekks> oldude67: mkfs
[22:20] <neosimago> oldude67: and remember to choose a format where you can read the flashdrive on the systems you will be using. between NTFS/FAT32/ext3/4
[22:21] <oldude67> bekks, neosimago, thanks reading up on them.
[22:22] <kandinski> for keeping up an autossh tunnel, does it make sense to run supervisord, or could I do it from upstart?
[22:22] <jose106> oldude67, download gparted
[22:23] <kandinski> I'm currently using supervisor, but I feel like I'm duplicating effort
[22:26] <careless> hey guys everytime i plug hdmi my brightness/gamma change...how can i make it stop doing that ?
[22:27] <Inglorious> is there a way to determine whether a package is available in repositories by shell scripting?
[22:29] <jpds> Inglorious: $ apt-cache policy ubuntu-desktop | grep Candidate
[22:30] <careless> like is it lightdm doing this or who ?
[22:30] <Inglorious> jpds: awesome thanks
[22:30] <Inglorious> :)
[22:33] <careless> or when i unplug my power cord it dimms immediately
[22:33] <careless> isnt there a way to make it stop doing that?
[22:33] <holstein> careless: just look around in the power settings
[22:34] <careless> i did
[22:34] <careless> and disabled them all
[22:34] <careless> and it still does it
[22:34] <tyson_> Hi there, can anyone help with ubuntu server update problems?
[22:34] <careless> is there a process i can kill ? :)
[22:34] <careless> holstein: or a daemon to stop
[22:35] <ner0x> tyson_: Don't ask to ask. Just ask. :)
[22:35] <careless> an evil daemon :)
[22:35] <holstein> tyson_: you can try #ubuntu-server ,or just ask here... sudo apt-get update is what i run, and troubleshoot from there
[22:36] <tyson_> ner0x: you may have problems with english literature.... I have asked the question
[22:36] <re75> !list
[22:36] <Guest25194> kjhg
[22:36] <ner0x> tyson_: Where did you ask?
[22:37] <tyson_> ner0x: in the same first line.... nevermind
[22:37] <holstein> tyson_: what update problems??
[22:37] <tyson_> holstein: i get error of the apt-get update commnas
[22:38] <ner0x> tyson_: And I read literature just fine.
[22:38] <ner0x> tyson_: You asked if anyone could help. You should just ask your question. And gist/pastebin the errors.
[22:38] <holstein> tyson_: what i would do is run "sudo apt-get update" and pastebin your errors
[22:38]  * ner0x remembers his first error.
[22:38] <tyson_> nerox: <tyson_> Hi there, can anyone help with ubuntu server update problems?
[22:39] <holstein> tyson_: ok.. what is the error?
[22:39] <ner0x> tyson_: Yeah, what problem is that?
[22:39] <ner0x> tyson_: You gave 0 context.
[22:39] <holstein> tyson_: a volunteer may be able to help.. just share your error message
[22:39] <tyson_> ner0x: update problems.
[22:39] <ner0x> tyson_: Great. What kind?
[22:39] <tyson_> holstein: fetching errors
[22:39] <ner0x> tyson_: Post the errors or get out.
[22:40] <holstein> tyson_: in a terminal, run "sudo apt-get update" and pastebin the errors
[22:40] <holstein> !paste | tyson_
[22:40] <Inglorious> I contribute sympathy towards ner0x :)
[22:40] <ner0x> My patience level is apparently 0 today.
[22:40] <Inglorious> lol
[22:41] <Inglorious> I wouldve said get out at the 1st line
[22:41] <tyson_> holstein: nevermind.... research will do me just fine
[22:41] <ner0x> tyson_: First thing you've said the entire time in here that made sense. :)
[22:41] <ner0x> Inglorious: To be fair, everyone was new at one time.
[22:42] <Inglorious> yes but to be honest
[22:42] <ner0x> Inglorious: But to be a pretentious little know-it-all that doesn't know anything. That's not okay.
[22:42] <TechIsCool> Alright so I am running ubuntu 11.10 in virtual box and it is refusing to open unity when I press the windows key
[22:42] <TechIsCool> how can I open it without the windows key
[22:42] <Inglorious> ner0x Im still a n00b
[22:42] <tyson_> ner0x: no no... i said so because I wanted help from someone who knows what they are talking about, not WANNABEEEEEEEEESSSSS
[22:42] <Dunya> omg this chat is huge
[22:43] <Inglorious> ner0x but I grew up in this environment to soot the question and give 100% context :)
[22:43] <unheeding> TechIsCool: click on the dash icon?
[22:43] <ner0x> Inglorious: Good environment.
[22:43]  * ner0x has been on linux for close to 17 years.
[22:43] <Inglorious> thats what I thought
[22:43]  * ner0x pulls out his wannabe card.
[22:43] <TechIsCool> unheeding: I can't find it all I have on the top bar is file - edit - view - go - bookmakrs - help
[22:43] <Inglorious> you'll laugh at me :)
[22:43] <TechIsCool> nothing more
[22:43] <Inglorious> tyson_ dont be affraid
[22:44] <Inglorious> ask your question and then ignore the wannabee
[22:44] <Inglorious> you should reckognize the guru's :)
[22:44] <ner0x> Inglorious: Ouch. You toolbox.
[22:45] <Inglorious> what have I done
[22:45] <k1l> can we please stick to the technical issues?
[22:45] <ner0x> Inglorious: Nothing I'm just fscking with you.
[22:45] <Inglorious> lol
[22:45] <unheeding> TechIsCool: i dunno man.  i'd suggest moving to a supported version.
[22:45] <TechIsCool> lol
[22:45] <ner0x> Anyway... Gotta go write some l337 h4x0r scripts.
[22:45] <Inglorious> for k1l sake, I'm going to bed :)
[22:45] <Inglorious> goodnight
[22:48] <MooingPanda> Hey everybody! :)
[22:49] <MooingPanda> Does anybody here have experience with missing resolutions? I can currently go up to 1368x768 (which appears to be zoomed in...), but my video card and my monitor can handle more than that
[22:49] <MooingPanda> I am using an HDTV that can go up to 1920*1080 (which is what I would like to get)
[22:50] <holstein> MooingPanda: i usually specify with a custom xorg.conf... sometimes the graphics drive can limit that as well
[22:50] <MooingPanda> Also, I am using Ubuntu 12.04
[22:50] <MooingPanda> And I'm using current nvidia
[22:50] <MooingPanda> Willing to give more infos :)
[22:51] <root>  .
[22:52] <Sorinan> Is it safe to mount /usr with noatime? I mean, they're unix *static* resources, do I really need to write to them every time I access them? There's any tool present in a default Ubuntu installation that uses this information?
[22:52] <k1l> MooingPanda: is the nvidia driver in use?
[22:52] <MooingPanda> kll: I believe it is, but lemme check :)
[22:52] <k1l> !rootirc | Guest26945
[22:52] <nsahoo> I did a fresh install of ubuntu 12.04, I am trying to reuse an exisitng user home directory. The problem is everytime I login, it immediately logs out. Where can I see some log to try and figure out where the problem is?
[22:53] <MooingPanda> (uh.. I'm a total noob... how do I check that?:D)
[22:54] <k1l> MooingPanda: look into syslog. that mentiones it which driver is in use.
[22:54] <MooingPanda> no command 'syslog' found
[22:54] <k1l> its a logging file in /var/log/syslog
[22:54] <MooingPanda> derp xD
[22:56] <MooingPanda> alright, found it
[22:57] <MooingPanda> @kll - pastebin didn't accept my copypaste :c - http://paste.ubuntu.com/5569070/
[23:00] <root_> is it cool to utorrent as root
[23:00] <root_> and use IRC
[23:00] <k1l> root_: no, dont do that
[23:00] <root_> why?
[23:00] <root_> isnt root the safe user
[23:01] <root_> i heard it was 100% safe
[23:01] <k1l> !rootirc | root_
[23:01] <MooingPanda> kll: did you see the link I posted? :) (not being impatient)
[23:02] <root_> im using teamviewer as root atm
[23:02] <k1l> MooingPanda: yep, there is some issues with that nvidia driver. but i dont know what exactly. that is above my knowledge. you could say which videocard that is exactly and maybe some other user knows smth
[23:02] <janisoza1r> !tab | MooingPanda
[23:02] <root_> idk who the other guy is he randomly connected
[23:02] <xibalba> hey all, anyone know of a way to SSH into many Ubuntu boxes at the same time and run 'apt-get update' ?
[23:02] <k1l> root_: its not recommended within ubuntu
[23:03] <root_> how come
[23:03] <janisoza1r> xibalba: for i in host1 host2 host3 ; do ssh $i "apt-get update" ; done
[23:03] <MooingPanda> janisozalr: is !tab supposed to send me a message? 'cause I got nothing :3. - kll: nvidia geforce 550 ti
[23:03] <xibalba> hmm shoulda thought of that
[23:04] <janisoza1r> MooingPanda: yeah, it should. that was a trigger for !ubottu, but it seems that the bot is down :(
[23:04] <MooingPanda> ok :P
[23:04] <k1l> root_: the programs dont need root privileges. they run fine without it
[23:04] <janisoza1r> MooingPanda: anyway, use tab for nick autocompletion
[23:04] <root_> wrong
[23:04] <MooingPanda> janisoza1r: I have the habit of typing names without tabbing on irc :P
[23:05] <janisoza1r> root_: there are other ways to selectively provide needed privileges to programs
[23:05] <janisoza1r> root_: if the issue is the filesystem, then the permission on files are wrong
[23:05] <k1l> !rootirc | root_
[23:06] <root_> lol quadruple ban
[23:06] <root_> what the hell is /mode -bbbb
[23:06] <Ben64> unban
[23:06] <MooingPanda> lol
[23:06] <root_> what is (tm)
[23:06] <janisoza1r> root_: running as root anything that is not required to be run as root is quite a security issue. even services/daemons don't usually run as root but as separate users
[23:07] <k1l> root_: lets stick to technical ubuntu support here. for chat we have the #ubuntu-offtopic channel
[23:07] <root_> why is there root anhow
[23:07] <root_> why is it accessable
[23:08] <Ben64> !manual | root_
[23:08] <MooingPanda> stuck in 800x600... ughhh torture. :<
[23:09] <MooingPanda> I mean 1024x768
[23:09] <Tex_Nick> root_:  see if this helps ... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[23:10] <xibalba> janisoza1r, got another Q for ya
[23:10] <xibalba> janisoza1r, how can i paste text into /etc/resolv.conf that way?
[23:11] <xibalba> cat /tmp/foo | ssh $i "cat /etc/resolv.conf" ?
[23:11] <janisoza1r> xibalba: use 'tee' or 'cat'
[23:11] <joanbarros> Hello, when I logged into my ubuntu machine today I couldn't move the usb mouse and keyboard that were attached to it (working yesterday). After that I noticed that I couldn't use the touchpad also (yes, it's al laptop), the wireless network card does not work, and when I hit CTRL + ALT + F1-6, the terminal does not show up. What could this be? Thanks in advance...
[23:11] <xibalba> janisoza1r, anyway i can put a list of instructions into a text file and have ssh execute them all?
[23:11] <janisoza1r> xibalba: for i in host1 host2 host3 ; do cat /tmp/foo ssh $i "cat >> /etc/resolv.conf" ; done
[23:11] <xibalba> like a batch file
[23:11] <xibalba> janisoza1r, i need to update resolv.conf and update all the boxes
[23:12] <janisoza1r> xibalba: yes, that should be possible. or you could just copy the file (using cat like specified above) and then execute it
[23:12] <xibalba> i think i'll just " do ssh [job1] ; ssh [job2]
[23:13] <xibalba> not as clean but hwatever
[23:13] <root_> does ubuntu have a user logon screen
[23:13] <kunji> root_: By default, yes
[23:13] <Frennie> Hi, I'd like to copy my persistence file from one live USB to another, and I know the persistence file is stored in casper (? http://shallowsky.com/blog/linux/install/ubuntu-persistent-live-cd.html), but where exactly do I need to copy the persistence file from, which I assume would contain my personal settings, programs, and documents...
[23:13] <janisoza1r> xibalba: you can read 'man xargs' for that
[23:14] <janisoza1r> xibalba: for ... ; do cat /tmp/foo | xargs ssh $i ; done
[23:14] <xibalba> ah right, xargs an old friend
[23:14] <janisoza1r> xibalba: but you have to make sure that you specify \n as delimiter. perhaps use 'tr' for swapping \n -> \0 ?
[23:15] <Frennie> Hi, I'd like to copy my persistence file from one live USB to another, and I know the persistence file is stored in casper (? http://shallowsky.com/blog/linux/install/ubuntu-persistent-live-cd.html), but where exactly do I need to copy the persistence file from, which I assume would contain my personal settings, programs, and documents...
[23:15] <xibalba> janisoza1r, perfect. working thank you sir
[23:16] <janisoza1r> xibalba: welcome
[23:16] <xibalba> ended up with,  for i in 192.168.0.104 192.168.0.103 192.168.0.102 192.168.0.105 192.168.0.100; do ssh cat /tmp/resolv.conf | ssh $i "cat > /etc/resolv.conf"  ;ssh $i "apt-get update; apt-get -y upgrade; apt-get -y dist-upgrade" ; done
[23:16] <xibalba> had to make some keys first
[23:16] <dakotawulfy> hi
[23:16] <tim_> ну здрасте
[23:16] <janisoza1r> !ru | tim_
[23:17] <janisoza1r> xibalba: remotely dist-upgrading multiple hosts at once? that's calling for trouble :P
[23:17] <Frennie> Any thoughts? I'd like to copy my persistence file from one live USB to another, and I know the persistence file is stored in casper (? http://shallowsky.com/blog/linux/install/ubuntu-persistent-live-cd.html), but where exactly do I need to copy the persistence file from, which I assume would contain my personal settings, programs, and documents...
[23:18] <xibalba> janisoza1r, just stamped these boxes out from a vmware template. they're brand new
[23:18] <janisoza1r> xibalba: ssh will not exit until apt-get is done, you might want to put '&' somewhere there or use 'daemon'?
[23:18] <xibalba> janisoza1r, i'm comfortable with waiting. just didn't want to have to be so reptitive
[23:19] <xibalba> they're in a datacenter, so if the mirror is fast shouldn't be too long
[23:19] <xibalba> although lately some mirrors have been slow as snot
[23:19] <xibalba> might want to run a local mirror for my data center
[23:20] <janisoza1r> xibalba: or just copy /var/cache/apt/archive between machines?
[23:20] <xibalba> never knew about that
[23:20] <xibalba> use to copying /usr/ports/distfiles =P
[23:22] <Frennie> Any thoughts? I'd like to copy my persistence file from one live USB to another, and I believe the persistence file is stored in something called casper, but where exactly do I need to copy the persistence file from?
[23:22] <DeliriumTremens> how can i add a new user to an existing group with no password all in one command?
[23:22] <Frennie> Is it a partition? Or just the folder?
[23:22] <DeliriumTremens> when i do adduser --ingroup group it doesnt show up in /etc/group
[23:22] <DeliriumTremens> that the user is in that group
[23:22] <janisoza1r> Frennie: the largest file in root directory of your pendrive
[23:25] <Frennie> janisozalr Thanks!!
[23:25] <janisoza1r> Frennie: it is "partition" (actually a filesystem), but stored inside of a file
[23:25] <janisoza1r> !tab | Frennie
[23:25] <Espen_> Do any of you have problems with volume settings getting reset on s/pdif output devices? I find it strange that i haven't found anyone with similar issues across several soundcards.
[23:25] <Espen_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7dBJkviD4Y&feature=youtu.be&t=00m15s
[23:26] <DeliriumTremens> or i guess i should ask, why when i use 'adduser <user> --ingroup <group>' does it not show up in /etc/group
[23:26] <Changa> where is this .gnome2 folder I read about :/ I cannot find it
[23:27] <Frennie> janisoza1r: So can I access this file by booting into Ubuntu from a harddrive, then going into the USB's folder, and copying that largest file? Will that work since it's a partition? Will it be accessible?
[23:27] <Changa> "Put FTP.gedit-plugin and FTP.py inside .gnome2/gedit/plugins/ under your home directory." how can I find that destination
[23:28] <aeon-ltd> Changa: have you shown hidden files?
[23:28] <Changa> thats what I need
[23:28] <Changa> lemme google it
[23:28] <mgolisch> DeliriumTremens: ingroup changes the primary group, the one listed in the passwd file
[23:28] <Changa> thanks aeon-ltd
[23:29] <Frennie> janisoza1r: So can I access this persistence file by booting into Ubuntu from a harddrive, then going into the USB's folder, and copying that largest file? Will that work since it's a partition? Will it be accessible?
[23:29] <janisoza1r> Frennie: i don't know for sure, but i would do it like this: let's call 'A' a golden pendrive and 'B' a clone. prepare A, boot, do what you have to. prepare B the same, don't boot, simply copy over the casper file from A to B (do *not* use A or B to do that)
[23:29] <janisoza1r> !patience | Frennie
[23:29] <Frennie> Hehe gotcha :)
[23:29] <DeliriumTremens> the user has the group ID in passwd, weird
[23:30] <janisoza1r> Changa: if using nautilus, you can press ctrl-l and just specify location
[23:30] <Changa> I just went to preferences and enabled the hidden files
[23:30] <janisoza1r> Changa: ctrl-h shows hidden
[23:30] <Changa> option
[23:30] <Changa> yeah but I still cant find gnome2 dir
[23:30] <Frennie> janisoza1r: Forgive me if this is a stupid question, but what exactly do you mean by prepare?
[23:30] <mgolisch> DeliriumTremens: thats not weird, it does exactly what this options description says, it makes the group the users primary group
[23:30] <Changa> its in file system right?
[23:31] <xibalba> oh this isn't good
[23:31] <xibalba> Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-updates/main libpq5 amd64 9.1.6-0ubuntu12.04.1
[23:31] <xibalba>   404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.15 80]
[23:31] <janisoza1r> Frennie: use whatever program you use to make pendrive bootable
[23:31] <tgm4883> xibalba, works for me
[23:31] <xibalba> on that mirror?
[23:31] <janisoza1r> Frennie: like usb-creator-gtk
[23:31] <k1l> xibalba: apt-get update?
[23:31] <xibalba> trying it now
[23:32] <DeliriumTremens> mgolisch: i see, well as long as its adding to the group i'm cool with it
[23:32] <DeliriumTremens> hah
[23:32] <DeliriumTremens> thanks for the clarification!
[23:32] <xibalba> seems to have done it
[23:33] <xibalba> history
[23:33] <Frennie> janisoza1r: Ah! OK, so A is the one which has the persistence file I want to coppy over, but you DON'T recommend booting into Ubuntu loaded on A to copy the file from B, say, onto the mounted harddrive of the computer?
[23:34] <janisoza1r> Frennie: correct
[23:35] <Frennie> janisoza1r: Why not? How can I do this otherwise?
[23:36] <janisoza1r> Frennie: the file is in use when you use the system on pendrive
[23:37] <Frennie> janisoza1r: Oh, that's right! Thanks!
[23:37] <janisoza1r> Frennie: the kind-of-hard way to do that would be: boot A, prepare golden casper, shutdown A, boot B, copy casper from A, quit, boot A, copy copied casper to B...
[23:38] <Frennie> janisoza1r: OK, I think I'll do it the other way, then. Thanks a lot
[23:40] <nsahoo_> hey, does anyone know the order in which 'rm -rf' proceed in a directory? I accidentally used this on a wrong user home directory, and stopped a few seconds later. So, I am trying to determine what was deleted, or is it possible to know which directory was last deleted from?
[23:43] <escott> who asks a question and then immediately leaves the channel
[23:43] <xibalba> a donkey
[23:45] <joanbarros> Hello, when I logged into my ubuntu machine today I couldn't move the usb mouse and keyboard that were attached to it (working yesterday). After that I noticed that I couldn't use the touchpad also (yes, it's al laptop), the wireless network card does not work, and when I hit CTRL + ALT + F1-6, the terminal does not show up. What could this be? Thanks in advance...
[23:46] <dakotawulfy>  joanbarros did u do an update
[23:47] <joanbarros> yes, I did update yesterday, everything but kernel stuff
[23:47] <dakotawulfy>  joanbarros  maybe that had a kernel update ???
[23:47] <joanbarros> there is a kernel update but I didn't install it
[23:47] <dakotawulfy>  joanbarros u sure
[23:47] <joanbarros> yes, it's still there
[23:48] <xibalba> is IPTABLES builtin by default?
[23:48] <dakotawulfy> do u have an older kernel u can boot into???
[23:48] <dakotawulfy>  joanbarros try it see if it works
[23:48] <escott> !reisub | joanbarros and then boot a livecd to see if you can read the syslog
[23:49] <LoneTrooper> Which media player do you recommend to have from these:  Mplayer, Gnome Mplayer or SMPlayer. I know they are based on the same core but i can't choose.
[23:49] <xibalba> any tools to configure iptables?
[23:49] <escott> xibalba, iptables
[23:49] <xibalba> right, i'm not familiar with the syntax (i come from pf)
[23:49] <xibalba> i just need to punch a few holes, ssh mainly
[23:49] <escott> xibalba, if you just want some preconfigured rules use something like ufw
[23:49] <xibalba> need an ACL on SSH
[23:49] <joanbarros> Ok, thanks all, dakotawulfy, escott, ubottu. Will try and report.
[23:49] <dakotawulfy> xibalba i use firestarter
[23:50] <xibalba> gui or ncurses?
[23:50] <xibalba> i guess my only open port is ssh, i just wanted to lock it down to my office
[23:50] <xibalba> it's my utility jump box into my NAT net
[23:51] <xyu> WHO
[23:51] <thales_sa> someone has worked with Object Exchange (OBEX) protocol?
[23:51] <joanbarros> dakotawulfy I booted into the previous kernel and it works :\
[23:51] <xyu> ?
[23:52] <xyu> QUIT
[23:52] <xyu> quit
[23:52] <xibalba> exit
[23:52] <LoneTrooper> no u
[23:52] <xibalba> EXIT
[23:52] <xibalba> logout
[23:52] <xyu> #QUIT
[23:52] <xibalba> LOGOUT
[23:52] <xibalba> #YOLO
[23:52] <FloodBot1> xibalba: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:52] <dakotawulfy>  use that kernel  for now check see if u can find info might have problems with the other one
[23:52] <xyu> exit
[23:53] <dakotawulfy>  joanbarros might of installed a newer one  and did not know it
[23:54] <joanbarros> the thing is that the new one is still on the apt-get list
[23:54] <joanbarros> let me check
[23:54] <dakotawulfy> could wait till new one comes out and see if it works heheh they come out often
[23:54] <GaLFrieD^^> hi
[23:54] <LoneTrooper> hi
[23:55] <dakotawulfy>  joanbarros they did like 2
[23:55] <dakotawulfy>  close together
[23:55] <dakotawulfy>  joanbarros
[23:56] <joanbarros> dakotawulfy, the one im running now (that works) is 3.2.0-36-generic
[23:56] <joanbarros> the one that doesnt work is 3.2.0-37
[23:56] <dakotawulfy>  joanbarros try the new one see if it works
[23:56] <dakotawulfy> yea
[23:56] <joanbarros> ok
[23:56] <GaLFrieD^^> sorry
[23:56] <GaLFrieD^^> how is possible to force skype to use basic video drivers without graphical hardware acceleration? thx
[23:56] <dakotawulfy>  the 37 came out then the 38
[23:56] <dakotawulfy>  joanbarros close together
[23:56] <GaLFrieD^^> dakotawulfy .... can you help me?
[23:57] <joanbarros> no, 3.2.0-37-generic, same behaviour.
[23:57] <dakotawulfy> GaLFrieD^^ i see if i can check out  give me a min
[23:58] <joanbarros> dakotawulfy. no, 3.2.0-37-generic, same behaviour.
[23:58] <dakotawulfy> joanbarros 36 is the one that worked right
[23:59] <GaLFrieD^^> mmm ok tnx
[23:59] <GaLFrieD^^> :(
[23:59] <geekbri> I need to create directories in an upstart script as the root user, but run the start command as a specific user.  Unfortunately setuid runs the entire upstart script as the user you setuid as.  Is there a way to force it to run a specific command as the root user?
[23:59] <joanbarros> dakotawulfy, yes.
[23:59] <dakotawulfy> joanbarros u could try the 38  might work
[23:59] <joanbarros> dakotawulfy, yea, I was going to try that.