/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/02/26/#xubuntu-devel.txt

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pleia2knome: where are we with getting those screenshots on the site? :)19:17
knomepleia2, don't push it! :P19:18
pleia2<3 <319:18
knomegetting there some day19:19
pleia2so I'll definitely be around for our sprint on Sunday, double-booke it with some online work stuffs I'll need to be paying attention to my computer for19:19
knomegreat!19:21
bluesabre_cool, so we'll have some updated 12.10 screenshots on the site in May?  :D19:22
pleia2lol19:22
knomebluesabre_, that's the optimal estimate19:22
bluesabre_lol19:22
pleia2oh right, this is the part where I forget to tell people I'm speaking on the Ubuntu UK podcast tomorrow about Xubuntu22:40
ochosicool22:40
pleia2http://podcast.ubuntu-uk.org/22:41
pleia2at 19:30 UTC tomorrow22:41
pleia2hm, actually, looks like 20:30 UTC22:42
knome:)22:42
pleia2but I'm recording at 19:30 ;)22:42
GridCubepleia2, :D can i pm you?22:52
pleia2GridCube: sure22:52
GridCube:) 22:52
bluesabrepleia2: congrats!23:10
pleia2thanks, I hope to not embarrass us too much :)23:11
pleia2expanding the iso, bringing back some dropped apps and language packs, doing lots of bug fixes, that's pretty much it for this cycle right? should I mention new catfish?23:12
ochosipleia2: why would you do that? don't you like us anymore?23:12
pleia2haha23:12
ochosi;)23:12
ochosinothing all-too exciting in the artwork department23:13
ochosiapart from tons of work on the icon-theme23:13
ochosibut ppl prolly won't notice that too much, not sure23:13
knomepleia2, as we discussed in uds, it's probably a maintaining release now, getting stuff ready for the next LTS23:14
pleia2knome: yeah, that's what I figured23:14
bluesabreknome: about abiword and gnumeric...23:17
knomebluesabre, yes?23:17
bluesabrewe've got a development version of abiword in the raring repos (2.9.2), so theoretically this is not stable.  It's also not the latest development version (2.9.4)23:18
knomeyes?23:18
bluesabregnumeric in the repos is v1.10, but 1.12 came out in december23:18
ochosimeh, i hate the whole abiword random snapshot policy...23:19
bluesabrewhy old packages (particularly for abiword's devel version)23:19
knome:P23:19
ochosiwe should really talk to ppl about that23:19
knomebluesabre, i've no problem if we upgrade to latest23:19
bluesabreI haven't tested them, just noticed version numbers23:19
bluesabreof particular interest, gnumeric 1.12 is actually using gtk323:20
ochosii've been wondering recently whether we want something like plank (a very simplistic dock) instead of the xfce launcher panel at the bottom...23:20
GridCubei like the panel myself23:23
ochosii've somehow started to like the mix of launcher/window-buttons23:24
knomehmm, i found a G+ community for Xubuntu, seems like it's not the one we're running23:25
pleia2we run a page, not a community23:26
knomeaha23:26
pleia2communities are a new thing, I dunno anything about them :)23:26
knomeshould we take control of the community as well?23:26
GridCubei was thinking the other day that it would be nice if we had a sort of "prettifier configuration section" or a better name for it, some configuration program that asks you what kind of panel configuration you would like, if you want to add desktop widgets, like screenlets or what not, if you want to add or remove items from the defaults panels, dunno, for some reason doesnt sound so far fetched to me23:26
knomeif they are a new thing, why does the community have our old logo?23:26
pleia2knome: our old logo is older than all of G+ :P23:26
pleia2people just do that23:27
GridCubebecause people use the old logo all the time, the one that looks like a mouse on a wheel... the one from xubuntu 7.10...23:27
knomeGridCube, no, that's not it23:27
knomei seriously don't get G+23:27
GridCubei rarely use it, even more rarely that fb, and i use gmail all the time23:28
bluesabrehttps://plus.google.com/communities/10836918956096927326523:28
bluesabreI use g+ primarily23:28
bluesabremainly because my real life friends are boring23:28
knomeboo for them23:28
bluesabreand the g+ discussions and posts are interesting23:28
pleia2there, I gone told them to use the right one23:28
GridCubehehehe23:30
knomecan you also tell them to give you admin rights?23:30
knome:P23:30
pleia2maybe23:30
pleia2sometimes they just give it to me because "omg pleia2!"23:30
knomeboo, i hate this thing already23:30
GridCubethe oldest post is by a "bill carson"23:30
knomesocial networking-- :<23:30
GridCubethis is the new era of human relationships mr k23:31
knomei don't like it23:31
knomebesides i created a g+ account once already ;)23:31
knomedidn't like it then either23:31
pleia2too high bandwidth for me, and locked into their stupid app23:31
GridCubeapp¿23:32
pleia2twitter is light and I can run it in their app, or with their api on bitlbee for irssi, on a dead badger23:32
knomeseriously, then only thing i can see G+ offering for me is the hangouts23:32
knomeand even they have the stupid 10-person limit23:32
ochosiwe're not going to need much more atm23:33
pleia2we don't even have 10 project members :P23:33
knomethat's not my target of criticism :P23:33
knomei can see it being a problem with the UDS hangouts23:33
pleia2yeah23:34
pleia2I am thinking the 10 will be like the "fishbowl" and the rest are just misc audience23:34
GridCubeyou can stream a hangout and let people join and leave23:34
knomeand there's a possibility that the 10 slots go to the same people all over again and people who "think differently" are probably not going to get slots23:35
GridCubeits done all the times in the youtubes23:35
pleia2knome: I do worry about that23:35
knomeUnit193, tell us more about mumble23:35
knomei can also see why people who think differently wouldn't *want* the slots23:35
pleia2bleh, the only thing I hate more than video is phone23:35
pleia2that has even fewer social cues, I don't know how to talk on the phone23:36
pleia2or mumble23:36
knomeif i don't have IRC, i'd really want to go straight to IRL23:36
knomeso i'm getting these "justin bieber has a new tattoo" messages on G+, is this why you all are in there?23:37
pleia2lol23:37
bluesabreknome, yes23:37
bluesabrethats exactly why23:37
knomebluesabre, ah, i get it...23:37
pleia2you can follow pleia2 to see me grumping at jono about uds23:37
pleia2fun times23:37
knomelol23:37
Unit193knome: Audio only as far as I know, and you can technically stream it with icecast.23:37
knomeaha, right23:39
knomeskype with video conference needs one of the participants to have skype premium23:39
knome...or skype linux23:39
Unit193I have skype for linux.23:39
knomeREALLY?23:39
knomewoot23:39
GridCubei do too23:40
pleia2I am using skype tomorrow for the ubuntu-uk podcast23:40
knomeochosi, i'm probably deactivating my account before we get to test the hangout.23:41
pleia2haha23:41
ochosiknome: aren't you on fb too?23:41
knomeochosi, i ain't23:41
ochosiah23:41
ochosimy bad23:41
knomeochosi, if there's somebody by my name, let's kick him in the nuts.23:41
knomeor her in the... non-nuts23:41
knomethere's no other person by my name in the whole world, so if there is one by name in fb, it's an impersonator23:42
bluesabresays he owns digitoucan23:42
bluesabre:P23:42
knome:P23:42
knomeffuu23:43
knomei'm off G+23:43
knomei left it enabled for sp.org if somebody else on the domain *cough* ochosi *cough* wants to use it23:44
ochosii'm on g+ anyway23:44
knomei know23:44
knomebut if you want to create another account23:45
knomeor something23:45
Unit193If you can't use the Ubuntu icecast server and want to, I have a setup that can be used.23:46
knomeis there some -cast for video?23:46
Unit193Icecast can do it, if the source supports it.23:46
bluesabrepretty sure parole is the only gtk application that does not have make warnings23:46
Unit193G+ has it built in with youtube, no?23:46
knomebluesabre, it probably does when i start poking at it ;)23:47
Unit193bluesabre: Try building with clang. :D23:47
bluesabreclang?23:47
knomeUnit193, how would the server go with streaming several video streams?23:47
Unit193knome: Shouldn't have issues, never tested it.23:48
knomeUnit193, i mean, would all participants need to open several streams or can it glue them together?23:48
knomeor handle them otherwise23:49
Unit193It doesn't process, it just streams.23:49
bluesabresounds iffy23:49
knomebluesabre, can parole even handle single streams atm?23:50
bluesabretechnically23:50
bluesabreI think23:51
bluesabremaybe23:51
bluesabreoh, looks like gnumeric 1.12 is in raring, just the ubuntu packages page is wrong http://packages.ubuntu.com/raring/allpackages23:53

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