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IdleOnebkerensa: does that client work on 12.10+ ?00:01
jcastroI've never seen BBB work00:01
bkerensaIdleOne: yes... and in fact jcastro could easily have someone make a juju charm and bam uds-button.ubuntu.com could be born00:01
bkerensa;)00:01
jcastroand tbh, I don't think we want to be in the video hosting business00:01
bkerensajcastro: its more of the summit business... you can offload video to youtube for storage00:02
bkerensaor any platform for that matter00:02
jcastroI don't like being in the summit business either. :)00:02
IdleOnebkerensa: thing is the repos is for lucid and that has me concerned a little00:03
IdleOnebut will give it a shot00:03
bkerensaIdleOne: let me know if not... I know someone who works with the BigBlueButton people and we can ping them to make any needed changes00:05
bkerensa:D00:05
JoseeAntonioRimbrandon, jono: see bug 113045400:06
ubot2Launchpad bug 1130454 in Lernid "Support ubuntu-on-air" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/113045400:06
imbrandonJoseeAntonioR: cool00:06
IdleOnebkerensa: ruby1.92 depends on libffi5 which is not available in raring00:21
bkerensaIdleOne: ok Ill ping00:22
IdleOnewhat would be wonderful is if they could provide packages for each release00:22
IdleOneinstead of making it this scary compiling and running .sh scripts.00:23
bkerensaIdleOne: ohhh now shell scripts are not scary :)00:27
IdleOneI always try to look at things from a new to linux user perspective00:28
IdleOnethis method can be intimidating00:28
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philipballewjono, So I'm renting a van, bringing the LoCo over to your place next week for UDS lunch. Better be ready!04:06
* philipballew runs and hides04:06
pleia2lol04:06
bkerensa;)04:07
bkerensaHis bbq does look good huh04:07
philipballewI'll take him hunting the weekend before.04:09
jonolol04:22
jonopleia2, do you think if I was to do a LoCo BBQ that the team might be interested?04:23
jonocould be fun to smoke up some ribs for everyone04:23
pleia2jono: yep, I think they would!04:23
jonopleia2, cool04:23
jonojust need to find a place to do it04:23
jonomy place isnt really big enoughj04:23
jonowill have a look into it04:24
pleia2(I don't actually eat ribs though, tend to be pork and ribs kinda creep me out)04:24
pleia2I like my meat to not remotely resemble the critter I am eating04:25
jonopleia2, yeah I could figure out what people enjoy eating04:27
jonomaybe some chicken and some veggies too04:28
jonocould be fun04:28
pleia2:)04:28
jonoI am thinking doing it in a park could be cool04:28
jonoI could bring out my smoker04:28
pleia2yeah, we had geeknics at heather farm park before04:28
pleia2nice place, can bring your own cook stuff04:28
jonocool04:28
jonooh thats cool04:29
jonoI am good to go, all my BBQ stuff is transportable04:29
pleia2nice04:29
jonophilipballew, was talking to pleia2, would be fun to do a BBQ05:27
jonophilipballew, might try and organize one in a few weeks05:27
jonowould be good practice for me as I want to do a competition this summer too :-)05:27
philipballewjono, that sounds like a pretty cool idea.   I like that.05:28
jonophilipballew, sorry we didn't get a chance to talk LoCos at SCALE05:28
jonowant to get on the phone later this week?05:28
philipballewjono, yes. I can do anytime after Thursday lunch. Working until then.05:29
jonocan you do Fri?05:29
jonophilipballew, Fri at 2pm?05:30
philipballewjono, yes. Friday at two works perfect.05:30
jonophilipballew, cool05:30
jonospeak then!05:30
jonobtrb05:30
dholbachgood morning07:29
JoseeAntonioRhey, D!07:30
dholbachyo J!07:32
czajkowskialoha09:00
philipballewhello czajkowski09:10
bkerensaczajkowski: morning czajkowski09:11
czajkowskihow is it only wednesday :/09:21
bkerensaczajkowski: I wish it was Friday09:22
czajkowskiI've Friday off so I just need to get through tomorrow and the massive amout of work on my to do list09:25
philipballewI fly to Sacramento on Friday.09:25
philipballewWeek off school and work09:25
bkerensaczajkowski: your doing two jobs now right?09:26
czajkowskiit's two roles I guess09:26
bkerensaczajkowski: quite a lot of work then :s09:27
czajkowskiI'm still the LP person for support in the community and also internally09:27
bkerensaczajkowski: hopefully you get a vacation this summer09:27
czajkowskiand now I've moved to online services where I'm reviewing and testing commercial apps09:27
bkerensa+109:27
popeyi was watching the MWC video last night.. Sophie came over and looked at the screen... "Mark Shuttleworth? Is that the space guy?" - "Yes, yes it is."09:27
philipballew"Hi, I'm that guy who went to space."09:28
czajkowskipopey: she's a smart one!09:29
bkerensaI wish people knew him more for his work with Thawte then Space09:29
czajkowskikeep her!09:29
popeythey love watching the ISS go over09:30
bkerensaDid any of you have a free thawte certificate way back when?09:30
popeydigital certificates aren't interesting to 9 year olds09:30
popeyspace stations are09:30
bkerensa=o09:30
* popey toasts a cinnamon bagel09:32
czajkowskihmmm tempted to have a bacon sandwich if there is bread there09:32
bkerensaczajkowski: BLT? :)09:33
popeyhttp://popey.com/webcam/09:33
popeycat in explorer mode today09:33
czajkowskibkerensa: nooooo no L or T just bacon, with some brown sauce and a bucket of tea09:34
bkerensauhh brown sauce... dare I ask if you mean marmite?09:34
bkerensa:d09:34
czajkowskiNO!09:34
bkerensa;p09:34
czajkowskiyuck09:34
bkerensaand damn... they make buckets of tea?09:34
bkerensa:D09:34
czajkowskipopey: want some chickens to go with cats :D09:35
popeys/go with/get eaten by/09:36
czajkowskicat next door has already been and looked at the cage09:36
czajkowskichickens were unimpressed09:36
czajkowskihttp://exastack.com/webcam/ for context09:36
bkerensapopey: is it freezing outside? The plants look white09:39
popeyyeah, the webcam messes with the colours09:41
popeyits only a cheapo one09:41
popeythose plants are green09:41
popeyi need to find an imagemagic incantation to fix the colours somehow09:42
czajkowskipopey: is it the tcl one that jon and AlanBell have ?09:42
popeysimliar09:44
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AlanBellthe webcam has a colour sensor and a black and white IR sensor, so when it is a bit dark the colours get washed out10:43
AlanBellyou need to throw them some corn or grapes to tempt them outside10:45
czajkowskiAlanBell: who does?10:47
dholbachdpm, do you think https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices/PortTemplate is what Sergio and Ricardo were looking for?11:02
dpmlooking...11:04
AlanBellczajkowski: someone with grapes11:04
dholbachdpm, looks good? :-P11:19
dpmdholbach, sorry, I was being pinged somewhere else. Looks good to me, yes :) Just a small detail, perhaps we should name the template to TouchDeviceTemplate? What do you think?11:20
dholbachdpm, Touch/Devices/PortTemplate11:20
dholbachdpm, so people would use Touch/Devices/SonyXperiaS for example11:21
dpmyeah, I know that's the name. I meant TouchDeviceTemplate instead of PortTemplate11:21
dholbachTouch/Devices/TouchDeviceTemplate?11:21
dpmanyway, just an idea. I haven't been working with templates - do they need to be on the top level at w.u.c or can they be in subpages?11:22
dpmI meant I haven't been working with templates _for a while_11:22
dholbachthey can be subpages as well11:22
dholbachie https://wiki.ubuntu.com/abccc11:23
dpmdholbach, ok cool. As I said, just an idea, you're the one implementing it, so you've got the last word :)11:25
dholbachI'm not too fussed about the name - I'm happy for it to be whatever as long as people use it ;-)11:25
dholbachI'll mail Sergio and Ricardo11:25
dpmcool11:26
dholbachthanks!11:27
smartboyhwAnyone from the Ubuntu Community Council?13:23
* popey points at czajkowski and pleia2 13:24
czajkowskiello13:24
* czajkowski is mid way through lunch but am semi here 13:24
smartboyhwczajkowski, private message?13:24
czajkowskisure13:24
czajkowskidisregard the away message :)13:24
smartboyhwLOL13:25
smartboyhwGuys, I would be working on a Android + Ubuntu Phone app for Planet Ubuntu!13:26
dpmnice!13:26
smartboyhwdpm, :)13:26
dpmkeep us posted on updates!13:26
smartboyhwdpm, OK:)13:27
smartboyhwdpm, what do you think about the Android versions that I should support? At least 2.2 or even lower?13:30
dpmsmartboyhw, I'm by no means an expert in Android, but as general advice, if this is your first mobile app, I'd recommend keeping a scope that's not too broad, so perhaps just ICS and Jellybean?13:31
smartboyhwdpm, I think it should also work for 2.3 at least13:32
smartboyhwIt has more market share than others till real late 2012.13:32
* smartboyhw decides to go for Android 2.313:32
dpmsounds good, then :)13:33
smartboyhwdpm, actually another reason for that: My Android device is only a Android 2.3.6 and cannot be upgraded to 4.0 because it is ARMv6:P13:34
dpm:)13:36
dpmindeed, you should make sure you support at least your own phone :)13:36
smartboyhwdpm, :)13:36
paultagno jorge :'(13:55
smartboyhwdpm, BTW is there a RSS feed link for Planet Ubuntu?13:57
* smartboyhw can't find it13:58
czajkowskipaultag: jcastro14:00
paultagOh he is here14:00
paultagthanks czajkowski14:00
paultaghey jcastro, around?14:00
popeysmartboyhw: http://planet.ubuntu.com/rss20.xml14:01
smartboyhwpopey, thanks14:01
jcastropaultag: yeah14:02
paultagjcastro: I was wondering if you still had that RAID device that you could hot-swap drives on, I remember you raving about it a few OLFs ago14:02
paultagjcastro: and if you do, do you like it (and what's it's name?) -- also hi!14:03
jcastrohuh, me?14:03
paultagyeah14:03
jcastrooh, the Drobo, yeah, but they suck14:03
popeylolbo14:03
paultagAh, yeah, that was it14:03
jcastrotheoretically they are awesome14:03
popeyI had one. Got rid and now love btrfs14:03
paultagah, word14:04
popeydrobo is ideal for techical numpties who own a mac, iphone, ipad and apple tv14:04
paultaghahaha, I was thinking a device that could be sitting around and let me rsync data to14:05
paultagand just swap in and out drives as I need more space14:05
popeyoh, for _you_?14:05
paultagyes please14:05
popeyyeah, thats what i wanted to do14:05
popeythere's a number of issues with it..14:05
paultagI'm not going to go drobo if both of y'all are hating on it14:05
popey1) proprietary on-disk format, so if the device goes bang, you have to buy another device, disks are unreadble in anything else14:05
paultagI didn't even remember the name :)14:05
paultagoh snap.14:05
popey2) NTFS and HFS+ are first class supported, ext3 is in beta and has been forever14:06
paultagyikes14:06
popey3) firmware updates are only supplied to people who pay for maintenance, stop paying, stop getting firmware updates14:06
popeythat'll do I think, but there are other issues :D14:06
paultagthat sounds absurd!14:06
paultagthanks for warning me off, guys14:06
popeynp14:06
popeyfwiw, I bought an HP Microserver to replace it14:07
paultaghow do you like that?14:07
popeychucked in some disks and when i ran out of space, chucked in more14:07
popeyI _love_ it14:07
popeyusing btrfs with a modern kernel it's freaking awesome14:07
paultagthat's actually a brilliant idea.14:07
popeyand almost as hot-swap capable as drobo14:07
paultagalmost? this interests me14:07
popeyi.e. you can mix and match drive sizes with btrfs (like drobo)14:07
paultagAh! right14:07
popeyyou can add or remove drives easily with one command14:08
popeyit "only" does RAID1, but RAID5 is "coming" (hah)14:08
popeyI have 12x2TB disks in my btrfs array14:08
popeycome, join our club :D14:08
paultagwhaaaaat14:08
* popey high fives jcastro 14:09
popey/dev/sdc         22T   14T  7.3T  66% /srv14:09
jcastroheh14:09
popey(df lies)14:09
paultagthat's a lot of pr0n14:09
popeyhard as it is to believe, there's no pr0n on it!14:09
paultagwhere's the one with 12 bays? I see one with 4 on the HP site14:09
jcastroData: total=7.49TB, used=6.56TB14:09
paultag(and I can't google)14:09
jcastropopey is bigger than me14:10
popeyyes, 4 internal, and I have an external 8 way bay14:10
popeyeSATA14:10
paultagoh oh oh, gotcha14:10
popey0 1 8 * * /sbin/btrfs scrub start /srv14:11
paultagthanks, jcastro, popey!14:11
popey^^ jcastro added that to my root crontab14:11
paultagthat helps a ton14:11
popeynp14:11
jcastropopey: yeah I added that to my monthly14:13
sergiomenesesmovHi all15:14
* dholbach hugs rrnwexec15:52
jcastrorrnwexec: I got your shirt!!!15:55
jcastroPlease give my love to the Vancouver loco!15:56
rrnwexecjcastro: wow, that was a long delivery ;) you're welcome15:56
jcastroheh15:57
jonomhall119, change in plan a little for UDS17:55
jonomhall119, going to move it two hours earlier to start at 2pm UTC17:55
jonothis should make it easier for Europeans to participate\17:55
jonomhall119, can you update summit?17:56
jonobrb17:56
mhall119jono: summit doesn't have any slots yet, so there's nothing to change there18:01
mhall119I'll set those up after cjohnston and I get the changed deployed18:01
dholbachall right - calling it a day - see you around my friends!18:02
dakermhall119: http://i.imgur.com/R5jOCo1.png18:03
mhall119daker: that looks nice, can we get that landed before we deploy?18:04
dakermhall119: when ?18:04
mhall119daker: today18:05
dakermhall119: sure18:05
mhall119jono: 2pm to 8pm UTC?18:06
dakermhall119: https://code.launchpad.net/~daker/summit/fix.virtual-meetings/+merge/15087418:16
mhall119cjohnston: ^^ it works for me, if you like his layout better then I'll approve it18:31
mhall119so we can get this deployed18:31
dakermhall119: does meeting has get_absolute_url ?18:39
mhall119daker: it has get_meeting_page_url18:44
mhall119which is the path,not including host/domain18:44
jonopopey, jcastro do you have access to Ubuntu On Air?18:44
dakermhall119: thanks18:45
mhall119jcastro: 415 minutes is a long presentation18:45
paultagmhall119: afraid of hearing yourself talk? :>18:45
jcastrojono: I don't know what you mean by access, I don't think I do?18:46
JoseeAntonioRjcastro: you do18:46
jonojcastro, its ok, got it sorted18:46
mhall119paultag: always ;)18:46
akgranerJoseeAntonioR, ping20:16
mhall119jono: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-r/meeting/21292/summit-discussions/20:19
jonomhall119, woo!20:28
jcastroman that looks sexy20:30
mhall119jono: jcastro: all credit goes to cjohnston and daker20:33
akgranerwhen I grow up I wanna be like cjohnston  - man that is awesome20:34
mhall119bald?20:34
akgraneryeah - bald :-P20:34
mhall119:)20:34
daker:)20:34
akgraneryou guys rock!  I'm jealous...20:35
jonomhall119, ping?21:05
mhall119jono: pong21:07
jonomhall119, just mailed you21:08
jonore. UDS docs21:08
jonomhall119, can you look into that now so I can mail the track leads21:08
mhall119sure21:08
jonothanks mhall11921:11
JoseeAntonioRakgraner: pong21:12
mhall119jono: you need all of the process, or just what I sent you today?21:19
jonomhall119, everything I asked you for in the mail from yesterday21:32
mhall119jono: ok, I've got it started here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDS-1303/21:39
mhall119creating sessions is from existing docs, manual scheduling is new21:40
mhall119jcastro: can you write something for the plenaries submissions?21:40
mhall119jcastro: you might be able to just re-use most of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDS-R/Plenaries21:40
jcastrowhere do21:45
jcastroi put it?21:45
mhall119jcastro: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDS-1303/Plenaries21:50
jcastrook21:51
jcastroI kind of told people just to mail me21:51
jcastrobut whatever. :)21:51
jonothanks mhall11921:58
jonomhall119, is that complete now?21:59
mhall119jono: the scheduling parts are, I still need to fill in the Participating sections22:00
jonomhall119, just an idea, why not have UDS-XXX redirect to UDS instead22:07
jonoand then we can collate tips and tricks for running and joining the event at /UDS22:08
mhall119jono: we could do that22:08
mhall119right now /UDS/ redirects to /UDS-1303, since it previously redirected to /UDS-R22:09
jonomhall119, I think it would be cool for /UDS to become a hotbed of docs22:09
jonocool22:09
jonoso can you put the core docs at /UDS and redirect UDS-XXXX to /uds?22:09
mhall119yeah22:09
jonomhall119, thanks22:10
jonomhall119, also, schedule link on summit goes to uds-r22:12
jonomhall119, also, can you add the tracks:22:13
jono * Community22:13
jono* Client22:13
jono * Cloud & Server22:13
jono * App Developers22:13
jono * Plenary22:13
mhall119jono: fixed the menu, looks like someone already added tracks22:26
* mhall119 suspects cjohnston 22:26
jonothanks mhall11922:26
jonoand thanks cjohnston22:26
jonomhall119, I am writing up the instructions for the track leads can you give it a sanity check when I am done in a few mins?22:27
mhall119sure22:27
cjohnstontracks are added22:27
jonomhall119, you are a legend, as ever :-)22:27
jonothanks cjohnston22:27
cjohnstonI need a better description for client please22:27
mhall119"stuff that isn't server"22:28
cjohnstonack22:28
mhall119jcastro: let me know when you're done with the plenaries page, I need to move it to /UDS/Plenaries22:29
jonomhall119, seems https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDS is broken22:30
jcastroI am done22:31
jcastrogo!22:31
cjohnstonjono: whats broken?22:31
jonocjohnston, it keeps redirecting to the 1303 which shows nothing22:32
jonomhall119,  have you written instructions for starting/stopping the video streams22:34
mhall119jono: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDS/Sessions22:38
jonothanks mhall11922:39
jonojcastro, can you schedule the keynote on the Tues next week in summit22:45
jono2pm UTC22:45
jonolike this:22:46
jono2pm - 2.15pm - Jono Bacon - Introduction22:46
jono2.15 - 2.45 - Rick Spencer22:46
jcastroI'm on a call right now22:46
jono2.45 - 3.00pm - Track Lead Introductions22:46
jonojcastro, np22:46
jonowhen you are done22:46
jcastrohow do I schedule things?22:47
jcastrosummit.u.c seems to be generic still?22:47
jcastrohttp://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1303/22:48
jcastrooh22:48
jcastroseems the redirect is busted22:48
jcastrohmm, seems like the submit a session form isn't turned on?22:50
jcastromhall119: is scheduling turned on?22:51
jonojcastro, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDS/Plenaries seems broken22:56
czajkowskijono: think you need to go to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDS-1303/Plenaries22:56
jonoczajkowski, ahh yeah, that is event specific22:57
jcastrothe redirect is busted22:57
czajkowskijono: ah sorry.22:57
jcastroanyone know the edit url fragment?22:57
jonoczajkowski, np :-)22:57
jonojcastro, also your intro needs updating for an online event :-)22:58
jcastrowell23:00
jcastroI sent out the thing to -devel23:00
jcastroI don't know why we are even using a wiki page for this23:00
jonojcastro, I don't care how to organize it, I just care that you organize it23:01
jcastroI sent out the mail this morning23:02
jonobut given that you are using the wiki, the text on it says lunch, which doesn't apply to the online event23:02
jcastroand the wiki is currently unresponsive to me23:02
jcastroI didn't know there wasn't a lunch break for the virtual one23:02
jonojcastro, there isnt23:03
jonothis is my point23:03
jcastroright23:03
jonothe intro on the wiki page for the plenaries says there is a lunch break23:03
jcastrobut I didn't know that at the time23:03
jonooh gotcha23:03
jcastroThe rest is correct23:03
jonocool23:03
jcastroand as soon as it lets me I will fix it23:03
jonojcastro, cool23:04
jonomaybe ping #is about it23:04
jcastrofixed23:06
jcastroI think session submission is shut off, so I'll do the keynotes first thing tomorrow23:11
jcastro<-- EOD, snow shovelling time!23:11
bkerensajcastro: I guess a beering track is going to be proposed23:12
bkerensa:D23:12
jonothanks jcastro23:14
bkerensajono: do you have time for a call on Friday?23:21
jonobkerensa, sure23:38
bkerensajono: what time works best for you that day?23:38
mhall119jcastro: there won't be auto-scheduling this UDS, and slots haven't been made yet, nor are we importing BPs yet23:39
jonobkerensa, 2.30?23:39
bkerensajono: sounds good23:39

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