[00:00] <Left_Turn> guys whats the different between           gedit file.ext   ..and..   get file.ext &
[00:00] <Left_Turn> gedit file.ext &
[00:00] <joanbarros> dakotawulfy, there shouldn't be a problem if I install the 38 from the 36 right?
[00:00] <root_> i cant et used to ubuntu
[00:00] <root_> dang it
[00:00] <root_>  just wanted to etract some wierd compressed file
[00:00] <root_>  just wanted to etract some wierd compressed file8
[00:01] <aeon-ltd> root_: extracting 'weird' files in any os is gonna be weird
[00:01] <dakotawulfy> right
[00:02] <root_> it said it was for linux
[00:02] <dakotawulfy>  u still have all 3 in grub
[00:02] <tyson_> Left_Turn: gedit edit a file in a text editor called gedit... get does nothing
[00:02] <root_> I mean wierd as it was not one ive seen
[00:02] <tgm4883> geekbri, not that I know of. That seems to be an odd place to create directories though I suppose. Where are you trying to create directories?
[00:02] <dakotawulfy>  joanbarros u still have all 3 in grub
[00:02] <Left_Turn> i cant seem to find the file
[00:02] <geekbri> tgm4883: I need to create a directory in /var/run/ because that directory gets wiped on reboot
[00:02] <Left_Turn> i meant gedit file &
[00:03] <root_> do you have to know much code for linux
[00:03] <root_> I like tweaking the UI either with expolits or normally
[00:03] <geekbri> tgm4883: I'd like to continue using setgid and setuid because I am also increasing the ulimits.  However I need to create the sub directory of /var/run/ as root.  It's a frustrating problem
[00:03] <tyson_> Left_Turn: make sure you set the right path
[00:03] <Left_Turn> ok thanks ill double check
[00:03] <root_> I use xp atm
[00:03] <tgm4883> geekbri, well not really wiped, as just not kept
[00:04] <tgm4883> geekbri, out of curiosity, what needs that directory?
[00:04] <geekbri> tgm4883: I have multiple instances of redis running as different users.  I namespace their pid directories so basically, /var/run/redis/6379 and /var/run/redis/6380, each owned by different users.
[00:05] <CatNCobra> Hi, I'm having a hell of a time trying to install rabbitvcs. I have no idea what I'm doing when it comes to the command line and the instructions on their website have me all sorts of lost.
[00:05] <CatNCobra> Any and all help is highly appreciated.
[00:05] <root_> im sick of win7 docking me around
[00:06] <root_> so I use xp but that can be a bastard to mod when the errors are useless
[00:06] <joanbarros> dakotawulfy, when I run apt-get upgrade. It reads the following packages have been kept back. And lists three packages: linux-generic, linux-headers-generic, linux-image-generic (or something like that).
[00:06] <root_> fuck win7
[00:06] <OerHeks> root_, how about stop ranting about windows and ask your ubuntu support question?
[00:06] <root_> and vista and 8
[00:07] <root_> I did man
[00:07] <root_> jees
[00:07] <dakotawulfy> joanbarros  linux-generic, linux-headers-generic, linux-image-generic those are all the packages to make  the current kernel to keep it up to date
[00:07] <ultra7> how can i revert these commands? sudo iptables -I INPUT -s 11.22.33.44 -j DROP
[00:07] <ultra7> sudo iptables -I OUTPUT -d 11.22.33.44 -j DROP
[00:07] <ultra7> Read more: How to Block an IP Address in Ubuntu | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/how_6915849_block-ip-address-ubuntu.html#ixzz2M3Mn4AUh
[00:08] <FloodBot1> ultra7: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:08] <geekbri> tgm4883: looks like the solution will be just to launch the process itself with sudo
[00:08] <dakotawulfy> joanbarros so go head and try to install the new one see if it works
[00:08] <xomp> so ubuntu iso no longer fits on a 700Mb CD-R?
[00:08] <kant_> hi guys, i've just upgraded from 10.04 to 12.04 and I screwed my python up ... somehow. This is what I get when I run apt-get :
[00:08] <kant_> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of python2.7:
[00:08] <kant_>  python2.7 depends on python2.7-minimal (= 2.7.3-0ubuntu3); however:
[00:08] <dakotawulfy> joanbarros should not be a problem  i dont think
[00:08] <kant_>   Version of python2.7-minimal on system is 2.7.3-0ubuntu3.1
[00:09] <root_> can you change a folder backround in ubuntu
[00:09] <CatNCobra> Hi, I'm having a hell of a time trying to install rabbitvcs. I have no idea what I'm doing when it comes to the command line and the instructions on their website have me all sorts of lost. Any and all help is highly appreciated.
[00:10] <ultra7> i did a command in the terminal and i want to revert it...could someone help me please?
[00:10] <tyson_> ultra7: the same with accept at the end instead of DROP
[00:11] <ultra7> tyson_, rhanks
[00:11] <ultra7> thanks
[00:11] <root_> help
[00:11] <root_> yes H is for hippo
[00:11] <Ben64> CatNCobra: why don't you use the version that comes with ubuntu
[00:11] <bravis_> or howdy
[00:11] <root_> E is gotelephant L is for light P is for policeman
[00:11] <CatNCobra> Elaborate?
[00:12] <root_> can you change a folder back round
[00:12] <root_> in ubuntu
[00:12] <Ben64> !info rabbitvcs-cli | CatNCobra
[00:12] <CatNCobra> In other words, I've been trying to install something that's already installed?
[00:12] <root_> help
[00:13] <k1l> !patience | root_
[00:13] <Ben64> CatNCobra: search the software center
[00:13] <CatNCobra> I downloaded it and it didn't work
[00:13] <root_> why say I didnt ask!
[00:13] <Ben64> !work | CatNCobra
[00:13] <tyson_> root_: Hi, what do you need help with?
[00:13] <CatNCobra> In other words, none of the right click options show up that I need when I right click a folder
[00:14] <root_> can you change the backround of a folder
[00:14] <CatNCobra> Sorry for my vagueness.
[00:14] <Ben64> CatNCobra: then you can try the ppa on their site, but we can't support that
[00:14] <tyson_> root_ : yes you can.... how much programming/ script do you know?
[00:14] <CatNCobra> I don't understand how to do all of that haha
[00:15] <root_> I know a litttle md batch
[00:15] <root_> a tiny bit of C
[00:15] <root_> MS* batch
[00:15] <root_> but this is linux
[00:15] <dakotawulfy> GaLFrieD^^ u still there??? i did not forget about u
[00:15] <root_> is there an equivelant to regedit
[00:15] <aeon-ltd> root_: there would be no regustry to edit
[00:16] <tgm4883> aeon-ltd, what about dconf?
[00:16] <root_> ??????
[00:16] <root_> something that deos the same thig
[00:16] <joanbarros> dakotawolfy, I installed all but those three packages didn't install. Could this be the problem?
[00:17] <aeon-ltd> tgm4883: close enough i guess
[00:17] <CatNCobra> So in other words Ben64, I'm boned. Because the software center version failed, and you can't help me with this ppa mumbo jumbo.
[00:17] <Ben64> CatNCobra: you can see if they have a support channel or option
[00:17] <dakotawulfy> joanbarros dont think that a problem
[00:17] <ChrisHansen> root_ haha you got in a fight with the irc bot
[00:17] <dakotawulfy>  wont cause kernel not to work right
[00:18] <dakotawulfy> joanbarros those files are the ones that keep your kernel up to date
[00:18] <tyson_> root_: regedit??? by the sound of it gedit.... but I am not sure about what regedit does... lol
[00:18] <dakotawulfy> and runs the new kernel after it is installed
[00:18] <root_> YEY
[00:19] <joanbarros> dakotawulfy, ohh ok. actually the 38 kernel didn't install.
[00:19] <dakotawulfy> did u select it
[00:20] <tyson_> root_: if you want to do it just click on the edit on the folder you are in
[00:20] <dakotawulfy> joanbarros try the 38
[00:20] <dakotawulfy>  joanbarros if it works
[00:20] <root_> ok cool
[00:20] <root_> now an advanced question
[00:21] <root_> omg this is gonna be hard to explain
[00:21] <dakotawulfy>  then go ahead and after u are running it and hit apply  updates and should install those files
[00:21] <dakotawulfy> joanbarros
[00:21] <tyson_> root_ t: go ahead
[00:22] <dakotawulfy> joanbarros think the reason is because u manually picked and running the 36 now
[00:22] <root_> how do you give a folder two parts, one is viewable in the GUI the only is only viewable in code or in a specicalized program
[00:23] <root_> they both hold files and folders
[00:23] <root_> you can do this in windows xp with headache but
[00:23] <root_> but can I do it  in ubuntu
[00:23] <root_> or lnux
[00:23] <aeon-ltd> root_: you talking about hiding files in xp?
[00:23] <genii-around> root_: Any folder beginning with a dot will not be seen normally in GUI file browser
[00:23] <joanbarros> dakotawulfy, sorry. had to refresh the page.
[00:23] <root_> not conventially no
[00:24] <joanbarros> dakotawulfy, I dont have the kernel 38 installed. Id didn't install.
[00:24] <root_> in xp its an expolit
[00:24] <Tex_Nick> root_:  you can preceede files & folders with a . to hide them
[00:24] <tgm4883> root_, things like that get fixed in linux ;)
[00:25] <aeon-ltd> root_: you could just make a fake files with something like truecypt to hide files within files
[00:25] <dakotawulfy> joanbarros sorry u d/l it but did not install ???
[00:25] <k1l> root_: folders and files with a . in front are hidden.
[00:25] <tyson_> root_: I think the best answer to you is with LINUX you can do whatever you want.... you can do what was previously stated or you can study a little bit of the CHMOD command
[00:25] <joanbarros> dakotawulfy, OK, I'm now installing the 38...
[00:25] <root_> ok cool
[00:25] <tgm4883> I think the better answer is, stop trying to make a rootkit
[00:25] <dakotawulfy> joanbarros ok
[00:26] <genii-around> tgm4883: Hehe
[00:27] <dakotawulfy> joanbarros then boot in to it see if it works  if it does then do an update   when u are in the new kernel then it should install tose 3 files
[00:27] <dakotawulfy> joanbarros apply
[00:29] <Inoki> HI all, is there a way to launch a bookmark from the dash?
[00:31] <joanbarros> dakotawulfy, wow, weirdest thing. It works and didn't even have to rebuild nVidia drivers (been having the drivers not work upon every kernel update). It seems that something processed half way and it got stuck in the middle... It seems to be working now. YAY!!!!
[00:31] <joanbarros> dakotawulfy, yes, everything is working again. Even WiFi.Thank you very much!
[00:31] <dakotawulfy> joanbarros ok now see if those other update far u
[00:32] <dakotawulfy> those update the kernel and boot u into the newest one
[00:32] <dakotawulfy> joanbarros n/p
[00:33] <dakotawulfy> Inoki u still there
[00:35] <Inoki> dakotawulfy: Ya
[00:35] <fruitwerks> hi all - how can I get a list of unconfigured network interfaces?
[00:35] <reverendp> hey all, I am upgrading to xubuntu 12.10 and I don't want to lose my xchat favorite list.  I am trying to find the serv_list file.  I have used xchat -u --configdir but I can't find the returned directory
[00:36] <fruitwerks> reverendp: did you check for a .dir or .file for chat in your home dir?
[00:36] <fruitwerks> *xchat
[00:37] <reverendp> I will look again, that is where the configdir said it was but I couldn't find it,
[00:39] <joanbarros> dakotawulfy, actually I had to explicitly state that I wanted to apt-get install linux-generic linux-header-generic linux-image-generic
[00:39] <dakotawulfy> did it do that???
[00:39] <reverendp> fruitwerks:  did a search including hidden files servlist*.* and it came back.  Thanks for the direction it is greatly appreciated
[00:40] <joanbarros> dakotawulfy, that's how I got the 38 kernel to install...
[00:40] <dakotawulfy> joanbarros ok u should be good then
[00:40] <fruitwerks> anyone know anything about networking for kvm on the guest side?
[00:40] <nintet> in my native LED monitor's resolution there are about 60 pixels off of the bottom of the screen
[00:41] <Rehan> Hi people. Had a question -- do the latest AMD GPUs (78XX and 79XX) work well with linux or is nvidia still the better option?
[00:41] <dakotawulfy> joanbarros now the next kernel that comes out it should work like it did before i alway at least keep 2 kernels
[00:42] <dakotawulfy> joanbarros and something goes wrong go back to old one see if that the problem
[00:42] <triple_> Hello people, I have a problem with updating steam. After 5 percent it quits and says I need to be connected.
[00:43] <nintet> the bottom of my desktop is off the screen
[00:44] <HaZiLLa> Anyone from the UK here and is on BT Infinity?
[00:44] <mikathewoof> what is a command i can type in to see the speed of my processor?
[00:44] <phunyguy_> hey folks, I have an oddball question.  I have a new-ish with a UEFI bios, and I have my old partitions backed up, but I want to try to convert the installation to GPT partitioning.  Are there any good guides for this? Some mention using GPT on regular bios computers that but that is not what I am looking for.
[00:44] <Tex_Nick> nintet:  have you adjusted your monitors vertical position setting ?
[00:45] <JoelGsus> mikathewoof type top
[00:45] <phunyguy_> new-ish laptop**
[00:45] <Tex_Nick> nintet:  or used the monitors auto-adjust
[00:45] <mikathewoof> thanks JoelGsus
[00:45] <joanbarros> dakotawulfy, yea, actually my ubuntu stored about 5 or 6 kernels.
[00:45] <dakotawulfy> ok
[00:46] <mikathewoof> right now i have Peppermint OS installed on an old computer, i want to use lubuntu, can i easily switch it?
[00:46] <dakotawulfy> joanbarros ubuntu-tweak
[00:46] <nintet> the monitor's vertical position does not go nearly far enough
[00:46] <dakotawulfy>  removes all except for  one
[00:47] <dakotawulfy>  so be careful if u do that but then agin u have that one plus the new on so u should be good
[00:47] <kant_> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of python2.7:
[00:47] <kant_>  python2.7 depends on python2.7-minimal (= 2.7.3-0ubuntu3); however:
[00:47] <kant_>   Version of python2.7-minimal on system is 2.7.3-0ubuntu3.1.
[00:47] <kant_> anyone knows how to fix that ? I've just upgraded from 10.04 to 12.04 and ... boom - how did I break python
[00:48] <joanbarros> dakotawulfy, nice. will remember when cleaning up for space.
[00:49] <dakotawulfy> joanbarros ubuntu tweak is nice worth getting
[00:50] <fruitwerks> phunyguy_: is it a samsung laptop?
[00:50] <nintet> is there an app to move my screen up?
[00:50] <phunyguy_> fruitwerks, no it is a Lenovo T430s
[00:51] <dakotawulfy> joanbarros its got computer janitor built in and i have not yet have a problem only using it  but with computer janitor the full version be careful with that does seem to let u do thing that can harm your computer
[00:52] <dakotawulfy> joanbarros i mean your system
[00:52] <joanbarros> dakotawulfy, ok. will be careful.
[00:55] <eduardo_> Hello!
[00:55] <root_> does linux have a point where the code is against the design or some other code in the OS to make it work
[00:55] <eduardo_> ?
[00:55] <eduardo_> My english not is very good! I'm from Brazil.
[00:55] <eduardo_> :D
[00:56] <nintet> using the monitor's auto adjust or vertical adjust does not center my screen HELP_!!!
[00:56] <root_> you cant do stuff in windows if it works against the OS design of how its made
[00:56] <root_> its made with souce code which is top secret and cant be modified practically
[00:56] <dakotawulfy>  nintet did u install your video driver
[00:56] <nintet> sauce code?
[00:56] <root_> source code
[00:57] <root_> ..
[00:57] <nintet> i dont install drivers anymore... at least i havent had too since the windows days
[00:57] <dakotawulfy>  nintet are u using ubuntu???
[00:57] <phunyguy_> I hope you aren't logged into the root account in IRC....
[00:57] <nintet> 12.04
[00:57] <root_> why not?
[00:57] <dakotawulfy> what video card u got???
[00:58] <phunyguy_> you know what? nevermind.
[00:58] <nintet> i dont even know what video card it is
[00:58] <phunyguy_> have fun.
[00:58] <root_> lol
[00:58] <root_> im in mac OSX
[00:58] <nintet> you dont have to know those things anymore... thats what linux is all about
[00:58] <Hilikus> if i write a udev rule, do all conditions have to be part of the same group for it to work?
[00:58] <dakotawulfy> nit true
[00:59] <root_> calm down phunyguy
[00:59] <root_> youll get your chicken soon
[00:59] <nintet>  product: 82G33/G31 Express Integrated Graphics Controller
[00:59] <nintet>              vendor: Intel Corporation
[00:59] <dakotawulfy>  they make a gui installer for the video
[00:59] <phunyguy_> !ot
[00:59] <dakotawulfy> ouch intel
[00:59] <root_> thats nice
[00:59] <nintet> what is wrong with intel?
[00:59] <nintet> isnt that a good company or something?
[01:00] <nintet> i mean, i need glasses as it is... so i never worry too much about graphics, i do sound.
[01:00] <dakotawulfy>   nintet be careful u install that driver and  might not  work
[01:00] <nintet> its working now, its just hanging off the screen
[01:01] <nintet> ehhh,,, something tells me i should just go back to my old 1024X768 monitor
[01:01] <dakotawulfy> nintet might be able to install a program to change the screen size
[01:01] <nintet> how about just to move it up a bit?
[01:02] <dakotawulfy>  so u change d monitors
[01:02] <nintet> yes
[01:02] <kant_> hi all, libpython2.7 : Depends: python2.7 (= 2.7.3-0ubuntu3.1) but 2.7.3-0ubuntu3 is to be installed
[01:02] <nintet> someone gave me a nice new monitor
[01:02] <dakotawulfy> nintet did u reboot it  see if it worked???
[01:03] <nintet> i dont need to reboot
[01:03] <kant_> I'm having nightmares trying to understand how ubuntu3.1 would be different from ubuntu3 ...
[01:03] <nintet> do i?
[01:03] <dakotawulfy> nintet was it on when u changed it???
[01:03] <kant_> with respect to python
[01:03] <nintet> yeah of course
[01:03] <nintet> hold on...
[01:03] <nintet> oooooooooooooooooooh. man i am sorry...
[01:03] <kant_> can anyone advise on how to repair python after upgrading 10.04 to 12.04 ?
[01:03] <dakotawulfy> but if it does not pick up could be worse then what it is now
[01:03] <nintet> i know what it is.... MY DATA SWITCH CANT HANDLE THE RESOLUTION
[01:03] <nintet> lol
[01:04] <nintet> sorry guys
[01:04] <dakotawulfy> n/p
[01:04] <kant_> is this an IRC channel about Ubuntu SW ? am I asking on the wrong channel ?
[01:04] <LoneTrooper> Is there a difference between installing deb package downloaded from trusted website or using ubuntu software center? I want to have deb files as backup  but i dont know if its the safe to install programs in that way.
[01:04] <tgm4883> kant_, repair it? how is it broke?
[01:04] <kant_> tgm4883:  apt-get won't do anything
[01:05] <tgm4883> kant_, what do you mean? do you get error messages?
[01:05] <kant_> tgm4883: yup, say you try apt-get -f install ; it says
[01:05] <tgm4883> LoneTrooper, for obvious reasons, you won't get updates to the software automatically (via apt) if you install a deb
[01:06] <kant_> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of python2.7:
[01:06] <kant_>  python2.7 depends on python2.7-minimal (= 2.7.3-0ubuntu3); however:
[01:06] <kant_>   Version of python2.7-minimal on system is 2.7.3-0ubuntu3.1.
[01:06] <kant_> dpkg: error processing python2.7 (--configure):
[01:06] <kant_>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[01:06] <FloodBot1> kant_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:06] <LoneTrooper> tgm4883 thats the one of the benefits of using ubuntu software center thx for reply
[01:06] <kant_> FloodBot1: sorry :)
[01:07] <tgm4883> LoneTrooper, that said, all apt-get is doing is downloading debs from the repository and installing them. IMO, install software via the repositories (software center) if you can. If you can't find something in the software center but the developer releases a deb, you can usually use that just fine
[01:07] <tgm4883> kant_, odd, not sure how you got in that situation
[01:08] <kant_> I don't get how my python2.7-minimal (2.7.3-0ubuntu3.1) is so different from python2.7-minimal (2.7.3-0ubuntu3)
[01:08] <kant_> tgm4883: simply by upgrading a 10.04 LTS to a 12.04 LTS
[01:08] <LoneTrooper> ok i get it thx for info tgm4883
[01:08] <dakotawulfy>   kant u said u updated from 10.04 to 12.04???
[01:09] <kant_> dakotawulfy: yeah
[01:09] <tgm4883> Kanerix, amd64 or i386?
[01:09] <kant_> tgm4883: this is mental; i've checked the ubuntu repositories and the '3.1' build is only an update to the '3' build - how does it stop python from playing  ... ...
[01:10] <tgm4883> also, the 3.1 build only does "  * Cherry pick af46a001d5ec to remove Python syslog BOM insertion code that was causing corrupt log messages in syslog.  LP: #1029640 "
[01:10] <kant_> ubottu: I saw that one yeah but ... no fix apparently ?
[01:10] <tgm4883> kant_, it has to do with dependencies. Still, I'm unsure how you got into this. What repo were you using?
[01:10] <Triple_> Hello, does anyone know how I merge my windows steam games with my Linux ones?
[01:10] <Scarberian> Can somebody take a look at my ask page? http://askubuntu.com/questions/260503/unable-to-boot-12-10-amd64-live-usb-on-gt5436e
[01:11] <Triple_> So I dont have to reinstall
[01:11] <tgm4883> !steam | Triple_
[01:11] <kant_> tgm4883: standard canonical repo for precise
[01:11] <dakotawulfy> : kant that would be the 12.10 not 12.04
[01:11] <tgm4883> kant_, 32 or 64 bit?
[01:11] <kant_> tgm4883: 32
[01:11] <tgm4883> dakotawulfy, the 3.1 build is in precise updates
[01:11] <dward> Triple, just login and you will be able to redownload the games that are linux compativle
[01:11] <dward> compatble
[01:11] <Triple_> Yes I know
[01:11] <Scarberian> he wants to migrate them
[01:11] <Triple_> But I dont want to redownload them
[01:11] <Triple_> Yeah.
[01:12] <tgm4883> kant_, I'd just try to download the deb and install it  http://mirror.pnl.gov/ubuntu//pool/main/p/python2.7/python2.7-minimal_2.7.3-0ubuntu3.1_amd64.deb
[01:12] <Scarberian> install steam linux
[01:12] <Triple_> I have.
[01:12] <Scarberian> and copy your steam apps folder into the .steam folder
[01:12] <kant_> tgm4883: I tried. it won't install
[01:12] <dward> Triple_ the binaries are different and needed to be ported to linux and recomplied
[01:12] <kant_> dpkg problem
[01:12] <dward> Triple_ your windows versions won't work
[01:12] <dakotawulfy> : kant none of your python works or just a program ????
[01:12] <Triple_> Alright.
[01:12] <Triple_> Thanks.
[01:13] <tgm4883> kant_, oh wait, apt-get isn't broke, it just can't resolve that dependency issue. Do you have the -updates repo activated?
[01:13] <dward> Triple_ you could use wine if you truly needed to to create a windows runtime enviornment but it would be difficult, may not work, and preformance would not be as good as native
[01:14] <tgm4883> dward, that isn't 100% true
[01:14] <kunji> Wish me luck, I'm about to try installing and using Nutch, I'll be asking for help if it doesn't go well :P
[01:14] <kant_> tgm4883: looking at my /etc/apt/sources.list , i see deb http://uk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-updates main restricted universe multiverse
[01:14] <kant_> tgm4883: so I guess yes ?
[01:14] <dward> tgm4883 what do you mean?
[01:14] <tgm4883> kant_, what if you do an apt-get update
[01:15] <dakotawulfy> Triple could us virtualbox if u have a windows disk
[01:15] <tgm4883> dward, some of the files are usable  between windows and linux steam apparently
[01:15] <kant_> tgm4883: it does update a list of urls then shows the msg : W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ precise/partner i386 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.canonical.com_ubuntu_dists_precise_partner_binary-i386_Packages)
[01:15] <kant_> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[01:15] <kant_> tgm4883: " you may want to run apt-get update " ... but isn't that what I've just done ?
[01:15] <dward> tgm4883 did not know that.
[01:16] <tgm4883> kant_, ok, how about 'rmadison python-minimal2.7'
[01:16] <kant_> tgm4883: what do you reckon is the problem ?
[01:16] <dward> tgm4883 maybe some libraries but i doubt the launchers are compatible. so you would have to redownload anyways wouldn
[01:16] <dward> t you?
[01:17] <tgm4883> dward, I've not done it as I don't have a windows install, but I see people get help for that over in #ubuntu-steam all the time
[01:17] <tgm4883> kant_, ok, how about 'rmadison python-minimal2.7'
[01:17] <kant_> tgm4883: so I was asking ... what do you reckon is the problem? I mean, why should I install a different version ?
[01:18] <kunji> Oh... hmm, what are the advantages/disadvantages of using Nutch 1.6 vs. 2.1?
[01:18] <tgm4883> kant_, you aren't insttalling a different version?
[01:18] <tgm4883> kant_, can you pastebin the output of that command please?
[01:18] <kant_> tgm4883: how does installing madison python-minimal 2.7 solve my problem ?
[01:19] <tgm4883> kant_, actually it's rmadison, and that isn't a different version, it's a command for you to run
[01:19] <tgm4883> kant_, 'rmadison python-minimal2.7'
[01:19] <tgm4883> !rmadison
[01:19] <kant_> tgm4883: sorry ; it says rmadison is not installed
[01:19] <tgm4883> kant_, right, I forget what isn't included on most systems
[01:20] <tgm4883> hmm
[01:20] <kant_> tgm4883: apt-get install rmadison returns -> unable to locate package information
[01:20] <tgm4883> kant_, what about a simple 'apt-get -f install'
[01:20] <dr_willis> !find rmadison
[01:20] <dr_willis> hmm
[01:20] <kant_> tgm4883: that would show the same problem as above, i.e. Version of python2.7-minimal on system is 2.7.3-0ubuntu3.1.
[01:21] <joeyjoejoe> hello ubuntu keystrokes are really laggy llliiikkeee tthisss
[01:22] <tgm4883> kant_, can you pastebin your sources.list file?
[01:22] <dr_willis> joeyjoejoe: is the console affected the same way?
[01:22] <kant_> tgm4883: my pleasure, here it is http://pastebin.com/MXb7idpw
[01:23] <tgm4883> kant_, you can remove line 20 if you add multiverse to line 6 and 7
[01:24] <kant_> tgm4883: cool, removed
[01:24] <joeyjoejoe> dr_willis:  yes connsole is the same
[01:24] <tgm4883> kant_, that will fix the duplicate line error
[01:24] <kant_> tgm4883: yup :)
[01:25] <tgm4883> kant_, can you pastebin 'dpkg -l python2.7*'
[01:27] <kant_> tgm4883: do I execute this from a directory where I have saved the .deb ?
[01:27] <tgm4883> kant_, no, anywhere
[01:28] <Tex_Nick> joeyjoejoe:  when you say ... keystrokes are really laggy llliiikkeee tthisss ... that almost looks to me like a hardware keyboard debounce problem ... have you tried another keyboard ?
[01:28] <kant_> tgm4883: it says no packages found matching python2.7-2.7.3
[01:29] <dr_willis> joeyjoejoe: that would point to a kernel or hardware issue. id test with a non ubuntu live cd. like tinycorelinux or dsl. and see if those are affected also.
[01:29] <tgm4883> kant_, my bad, do it outside of the directory that you saved that file in (otherwise it tries to be smart and autocomplete what is in your directory)
[01:30] <kant_> tgm4883: thanks, here http://pastebin.com/eWDfRr02
[01:32] <kunji> joeyjoejoe: Could also be a power problem, I know the Raspberry Pi does that under Raspbian if it doesn't have enough power.
[01:33] <linuxdoc66> Greetings.
[01:33] <joeyjoejoe> kunji: my battery is not chargingg properly on laaaaaptop
[01:33] <tgm4883> kant_, oh man, I read your error message wrong. I've been troubleshooting the wrong package. We need to try and upgrade the python2.7 package, not python2.7-minimal
[01:33] <tgm4883> kant_, my bad
[01:34] <kant_> tgm4883: so is the problem the fact that i have python2.7.3-0ubuntu3 instead of ubuntu3.1 ?
[01:34] <joeyjoejoe> kunji: lol i get it
[01:34] <tgm4883> kant_, what happens if you try 'apt-get install python2.7=2.7.3-0ubuntu3.1'
[01:34] <tgm4883> kant_, yea
[01:34] <kant_> tgm4883: wow ...
[01:34] <tgm4883> kant_, technically, it's python2.7 version 2.7.3-0ubuntu3
[01:35] <kant_> tgm4883: now .. I'll have to do this another way , because apt-get will not play
[01:35] <kant_> tgm4883: it 'depends' on python and ..python is broken . nice
[01:36] <tgm4883> kant_, can you try to do it that way? we're trying to force the version to upgrade
[01:36] <kant_> tgm4883: ython2.7 depends on python2.7-minimal (= 2.7.3-0ubuntu3); however:
[01:36] <kant_>   Version of python2.7-minimal on system is 2.7.3-0ubuntu3.1.
[01:36] <kant_> tgm4883: I've tried a few times already
[01:36] <tgm4883> kant_, hmm, that doesn't make sense as we're specifying version
[01:36] <kant_> tgm4883: could I install from source ?
[01:37] <tgm4883> kant_, no need, I've a few more tricks up my sleeve
[01:37] <kant_> tgm4883: sounds good :)
[01:37] <dakotawulfy> tgm4883
[01:37] <tgm4883> kant_, what about if we do the opposite? downgrade python2.7-minimal
[01:37] <tgm4883> dakotawulfy, ?
[01:38] <kant_> tgm4883: again - if I have to do that via apt-get , it won't play
[01:38] <dakotawulfy> tgm4883 have a question sure that python is broken or is it the program maybe is the problem
[01:38] <tgm4883> kant_, apt-get isn't broken
[01:38] <tgm4883> dakotawulfy, he can't apt-get things, because it's in an unresolvable state right now
[01:39] <dakotawulfy> ok
[01:39] <dakotawulfy>  sorry
[01:39] <tgm4883> dakotawulfy, no worries
[01:39] <kant_> tgm4883: so how do we downgrade to 2.7-minimal ubuntu3 without doing it from source
[01:39] <jeff_> hello
[01:39] <tgm4883> kant_, 'apt-get install python2.7-minimal=2.7.3-0ubuntu3'
[01:40] <Guest10162> Can anyone give me a hand with git?
[01:40] <dr_willis> !git
[01:40] <hejds> Any computer hacker who manages to download this video? http://jsfiddle.net/ndfgk/
[01:40] <Guest10162> Hmm, I didn't know linus created it... I'm just new to using it, and can't add files to an existing repo
[01:40] <kant_> tgm4883: I'll paste the output (it fails)
[01:41] <Guest10162> Anyone know how to add an existing project to a git repo?
[01:41] <kant_> tgm4883: http://pastebin.com/9S4Urm1z
[01:41] <kunji> Guest10162: http://git-scm.com/book
[01:41] <tgm4883> kant_, ok, now to 'apt-get -f install'
[01:42] <tgm4883> kant_, I'd like to see if that resolves it, or puts you back at the previous state (complaining about not being 3.1)
[01:42] <Guest10162> kunji: awesome, I'll check it out, thank you!
[01:42] <Tex_Nick> Guest10162:  have you asked in #git
[01:42] <kunji> Guest10162: np, it's what I learned form, but I haven't used git in like a year and a half, I remember nothing :P
[01:42] <kant_> tgm4883: I know but I've already tried, http://pastebin.com/s7QrR8UY - again, it fails
[01:43] <kant_> tgm4883: apt-get is totally relying on a solid python installation; when something goes wrong it's game over
[01:43] <tgm4883> kant_, no it's not
[01:43] <mfilipe> I'm trying install the steam package but I always get "No candidate version found for steam:i386". What is the problem?
[01:44] <tgm4883> kant_, it's not relying on a solid python installation, it's not relying on python at all (to my knowledge)
[01:44] <tgm4883> kant_, so lets try downgrading the packages again, I'm going to give you a few more packages to downgrade (to resolve the previous error)
[01:44] <kant_> tgm4883: then - on a side note - why would it fail with the error msg above when we only try and ' apt -get -f install ' ?
[01:44] <kant_> tgm4883: thank you
[01:45] <kant_> tgm4883: needless to say, I really appreciate your help
[01:45] <tgm4883> kant_, you are confusing it relying on a python install with relying on a consistant package state
[01:45] <kant_> tgm4883: oh , i think i see what you mean now
[01:46] <kant_> tgm4883: so it could be any package
[01:46] <kant_> tgm4883: that is in a broken state
[01:46] <Tex_Nick> 12.10 with gnome classic de ... i recently added a second monitor, it worked fine till i rebooted ... on reboot the bios POST is displayed on both monitors & GRUB is displayed on both monitors ... when it gets to the lightdm login, i loose one monitor ... at the desktop i have to use the "display settings" to toggle the inactive monitor off then back on ... what can i do to not have to go through that kludge ?
[01:46] <tgm4883> kant_, 'apt-get install python2.7-minimal=2.7.3-0ubuntu3 python2.7-dev=2.7.3-0ubuntu3 libpython2.7=2.7.3-0ubuntu3 '
[01:46] <kant_> tgm4883: but apt-get does not need python to run .. .
[01:46] <tgm4883> kant_, exactly
[01:47] <dr_willis> mfilipe:  i just downloaded and installed the steam_latest.deb   the software center version dident want to install for me
[01:48] <dr_willis> Tex_Nick: what video card and drivers
[01:48] <kant_> tgm4883: that was successful
[01:48] <tgm4883> \0/
[01:48] <kant_> tgm4883: what next
[01:48] <tgm4883> kant_, nothing, should be fixed now :)
[01:48] <OerHeks> good start for steam https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valve
[01:48] <kant_> tgm4883: tried apt-get -f install and .. yeah it works
[01:49] <tgm4883> kant_, you can do an apt-get update and apt-get upgrade to see if it wants to upgrade the four packages
[01:49] <kant_> tgm4883: thank you so much, I can't tell you how helpful this was, I was stuck
[01:49] <tgm4883> kant_, yea that was odd
[01:50] <ponyofde1th> hi, anyone know why my dist-upgrade times out after a few packages downloaded? here is my tcpdump http://paste.ubuntu.com/5569393
[01:50] <kant_> tgm4883: yeah upgrade seems to be installing the 3.1 build again now
[01:51] <kant_> but i guess libpython and python-minimal and the rest of them will be aligned now
[01:51] <Tex_Nick> dr_willis : oh man i'm afraid to tell you ... cause i know AMD is at the bottom of your prefereed list ;-) ... AMD A6-3500 APU with AMD Radeon 6530D graphics ... with the suggested driver in "Additional Drivers"
[01:51] <mfilipe> dr_willis: hum... I did that
[01:51] <kant_> tgm4883: thanks again, that did it  - worth staying up at 1:51am (UK time) :)
[01:52] <dr_willis> Tex_Nick: well with nvidia. id run the nvudia settings tool as root and save to the xorg.conf..   you may be neding to use that   amdccle  amds setting tool. not the displays tool.
[01:53] <Tex_Nick> dr_willis : the driver works great once i manually toggle the second monitor back on after reboot
[01:53] <kunji> Tex_Nick: You said you're using the suggested proprietary driver?  You should toggle the monitor with catalyst then, not with the display properties.
[01:53] <dr_willis> yea.. catylyst. ;-)  i frogot the name
[01:53] <kunji> Tex_Nick: I'm running the A10 here with 3 monitors, no problems ^_^
[01:54] <tgm4883> kant_, glad I could help :)
[01:54] <dr_willis> if it saves optoons to xorg.conf then the login screen will use them also
[01:54] <kunji> dr_willis: It does not as far as I can tell, but it works somehow
[01:55] <dakotawulfy>   3 monitors:'( i wish i had 3 monitors
[01:55] <Tex_Nick> dr_willis & kunji : ok guys that's pointed me in a good direction ... will try catalyst ... thanks to both of you ;-)
[01:56] <dakotawulfy> kunji what video card do u have???
[01:56] <kunji> Tex_Nick: And make sure to run the one with (Administrative), I don't think you'll be able to change it with the less privileged one
[01:56] <kunji> dakotawulfy: It's just the integrated video in the A10 processor
[01:57] <dakotawulfy> and support 3 monitors???
[01:57] <Tex_Nick> kunji : ok i understand ... thanks ;-)
[01:57] <kzetts> Hi guys, I have a laptop with a 1366x768 resolution. I remember when netbooks were first really popular, there were ways to trick the monitors into displaying higher resolutions. Is there any way I can trick my Xorg into displaying a much higher resolution and have my shit all super tiny?
[01:57] <kunji> dakotawulfy: I think it would choke doing gaming, but for video playback and all my everyday stuff it's been fine
[01:58] <dakotawulfy> i got a nvidia and 2 monitor runs good not bad for gamming not sure if the sli working right
[01:58] <kzetts> Anyone?
[01:58] <dakotawulfy>  but then agin only works on one
[01:58] <kunji> kzetts: The interpolation, hmm, I have it going in Windows on my S10-3t, not sure how to do it in linux though, even in windows I don't know if I could reproduce it on another machine
[01:59] <kzetts> Do you think the guys in #xorg would be more knowledgeable?
[01:59] <kzetts> Or maybe the arch linux nerds?
[01:59] <jrib> !fixres | kzetts
[02:00] <jrib> kzetts: start by trying the drivers for your card first if you haven't already
[02:00] <kunji> kzetts:  http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1265544  This is basically how that goes, they might know more, it's worth a shot, good luck.
[02:00] <dr_willis> kzetts: check the archlinux wikis also
[02:00] <kzetts> jrib: read my question. I have all the correct drivers. My resolution is correct, I want to know how to make it display an unsupported(higher resolution)
[02:00] <jrib> kzetts: yes, see the factoid.
[02:01] <dr_willis> kzetts: x used to have a panning feature. but i never got it working on my netbook
[02:01] <kzetts> I've got pretty good eyes, so I would love to get like a 1920 resolution onb my 12.5 in screen
[02:02] <kunji> dr_willis: I remember the panning, but that's not what he's referring to, what this does is basically guess what color a pixel should be when you don't actually have enough pixels to go around, so it does a mapping and some information is lost.
[02:05] <jrib> kzetts: if you can't set the resolution you want directly like described in the factoid, you might try the scale switch that xrandr has
[02:06] <kunji> jrib: Looking at that, it looks like it's what he's looking for
[02:07] <kunji> kzetts: http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?id=20634
[02:10] <ps2> So is it possible to run on mint 14 two separate users on one desktop with two monitors/keyboards/mice using some sort of split of workspaces? given some additional downloaded drivers or external programs?
[02:10] <bazhang> !mintsupport | ps2
[02:11] <ps2> ok yah i went to there no one helpped me there
[02:11] <dward> you tell 'um ubottu
[02:11] <PadNet_201> lol
[02:11] <ps2> Well is it possible to any distribution of linux?
[02:11] <kunji> ps2: As indicated, it's not supported here, I would keep trying there, or use their forums.  It's perfectly possible to answer your question, but you might be writing those drivers yourself :P
[02:12] <ps2> New question:
[02:12] <ps2> is it possible for two people to use one pc at the same time using multiple keyboards and mice and monitors
[02:13] <kunji> ps2: Yes, absolutely
[02:13] <ps2> kunji: how?
[02:13] <ps2> kunji: some keywords for me to look it up? any hints?
[02:14] <kalenjohnson> I saw a program on kickstarter the other day that let people log in and have a virtual desktop from one main computer
[02:14] <kalenjohnson> forget what it was called though
[02:15] <qwebirc40812> ps2, such as LTSP?
[02:15] <dward> ps2 look up x11 multiuser
[02:15] <qwebirc40812> i think, ltsp is more advenced
[02:16] <dward> ps2 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1681946
[02:16] <vincentS> ps2, google multi login ubuntu
[02:16] <dward> ps2 look up ubuntu multiseat
[02:18] <kunji> ps2: That's where things get hairy  T.T, I'm reading a little bit now, multiseat looks promising.  There may or may not be a product that does everything you want out of the box.
[02:19] <dr_willis> there was some special mulitseat hardware at one time also.
[02:19] <dr_willis> i forget the company name. but it was not very expensive
[02:19] <ps2> yes multiseat is correct i think that is what we needed thanks for all the help
[02:20] <Tawnee> How do I set the unity laucher thingy to default to searching the app store instead of amazon when it otherwise doesn't find anything
[02:20] <dr_willis> a $50 gizmo that had vga. and mouse and keybord ports
[02:22] <Pinkamena_D> hi i just started getting this 403 forbidden error trying to access transmission-daemon remotely. I have sshed in and changed the rpc-whitelist to false, but whenever i restart the daemon, it goes back to true
[02:22] <Pinkamena_D> any ideas?
[02:24] <ahoneybun> Pinkamena_D, not sure
[02:25] <Riplok> what application can i use as an application server for ubuntu server 12.04
[02:27] <dward> what type of application are we talking about
[02:29] <Riplok> something where i can install an application and host it to my client's. For example i want to host Gimp for client without them having my users install it but at the same time giving them access to the application and let the server do the processing.
[02:29] <dr_willis> sounds like x forwardong to me...
[02:29] <kunji> Riplok: hmm, you could do ssh
[02:29] <kunji> dr_willis: Yeah, what I was thinking
[02:29] <dr_willis> but that wont access the local files.
[02:30] <dr_willis> and can be sluggish for many cases
[02:30] <kunji> dr_willis: Yeah, T.T
[02:31] <dr_willis> take the idea to the next level.. and you got those good old 'x terminal' workstations
[02:31] <dr_willis> thinclients i think was another name for them
[02:32] <qwebirc40812> all diskless clients can use pxe to connect the ltsp server on ubuntu
[02:32] <dr_willis> yep. never messed with that stuff. ;)
[02:37] <zack6849> im having a problem with skype, i installed it from the software center and all notifications and noises it makes are heavily distorted as if they are corrupted, when it plays a notificiation it will cut off then play two times fast, or when i get a message it will make an EXTEREMLEY loud buzzing noise
[02:37] <zack6849> ive found one other person who reported this issue and that was two years ago on fedora
[02:38] <zack6849> if this makes any difference i've changed the default sampling channel count in pulseaudio to 8 because the headset i use is 7.1 surround sound
[02:40] <zack6849> this is also on 12.04 LTS for desktop amd64
[02:42] <zack6849> anybody?
[02:44] <DarkHalo> i'm trying to configure ALSA and I keep getting the error "line 3568: syntax error near unexpected token `)'"
[02:46] <DarkHalo> I might have screwed up the audio drivers even though i'm following the tutorial exactly. When installing, I shouldn't have to sudo anything right?
[02:47] <Laogeodritt> zack6849: only Skype? sounds like a driver issue, but I don't really know about audio hardware and drivers on Linux
[02:47] <irssi> Ubuntu: I cannot boot a usb stick that I loaded syslinux on the official helpfile says to run install-mbr from package mbr but there is no package mbr for the current system i am running what is the deal shouldnt an mbr lhave been created by cfdisk when i formatted the drive?
[02:48] <din> iscon
[02:48] <smokey1> hello
[02:49] <dr_willis> !find install-mbr
[02:49] <dr_willis> !info mbr
[02:50] <dr_willis> mbr package is in the universe repository
[02:50] <smokey1> any hear use xbmc
[02:50] <irssi> dr_willis: not sure universe repository is safe for boot record stuff has anyone inspected it for CIH virus?
[02:50] <dr_willis> smokey1:  lots of people do
[02:51] <methril_> I just uninstalled windows
[02:51] <dr_willis> irssi:  no idea.  i would be suprised if a package thats been around that long had a virus
[02:52] <dr_willis> i dont see why univers repo would be any unsafer then any of the main repo
[02:52] <calwig> um i just overwrote 2 files, is there a way to get these back while its in memory
[02:52] <calwig> this really sucks, theyre image files
[02:52] <irssi> dr_willis: is there a better way to make the stick bootable?
[02:52] <calwig> help help help
[02:52] <calwig> image001.jpg image002.jpg were overwritten by two similar files
[02:52] <dr_willis> irssi:  we done know what you are doing... you can install grub, grub2, lilo, or syslinus onto a disk to boot it
[02:52] <Dayofswords> calwig: they're gone
[02:53] <linxon634> =_)
[02:53] <kunji> calwig: Hmm, are you sure they're in memory?  You could check /tmp also there's ways to get a dump of all your memory and you could sift through that afterwards, I'm not really familiar with them though.
[02:54] <dr_willis> configuring the bootloader to boot the os. is the  harder task
[02:54] <calwig> kunji, ok will check
[02:54] <calwig> kunji, how does someone do that?
[02:55] <kunji> calwig: As I was saying, I know it can be done, I haven't ever done it.  This might help http://www.forensicswiki.org/wiki/Tools:Memory_Imaging#Linux
[02:56] <calwig> awesome thanks, i will read into it. its not THAT important they were 2 images taken and took 2 more different images, with same names so the latter overwrote the initial
[02:58] <kunji> calwig: If you can get the memory dump, then there are some other tools that can search for images in it, but yeah, it's not something I've had a chance to play with.
[02:58] <irssi> dr_willis: I have installed syslinux which i thought was the lilo installer i followed the official documentation https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/amd64/boot-usb-files.html
[02:58] <calwig> kunji, wicked
[02:59] <dr_willis> irssi:  lilo and syslinix are 2 apps that do a similer job.  syslinix is not lilo.
[03:00] <dr_willis> you install syslinux to the mbr of the disk and make a proper syslinux.cfg for it to read/use  when the disk boots.. is the core of it
[03:00] <Spec> quup: need any help with Ubuntu, good sir?
[03:00] <quup> Spec· yes, how do I run modern war?
[03:00] <irssi> dr_willis: so i did a config file and it never displays the menu
[03:01] <dr_willis> irssi:  i would guess you did it wrong, or got it in the     wrong placd on the flash
[03:01] <Willhxr> Noob question: I'm not very new for linux, I've already 'played' with it, and now I want to know something, is ubuntu a great choice for someone who wants to know everything about the system? or other distro is recommended ?
[03:01] <dr_willis> !appdb
[03:02] <dr_willis> Willhxr:  'everything' is a broad topic. ive used linux for 12+ yrs and still dont know everything
[03:02] <kunji> Willhxr: It's fine if you're motivated to dig around, but it won't force you to learn it.  For that I would probably recommend Arch
[03:02] <dr_willis> Willhxr:  ubuntu should work well for you
[03:02] <Spec> quup: man wine.
[03:03] <dr_willis> Willhxr:  then play with other distros in virtualbox
[03:03] <dakotawulfy> i have a question is there an openbox  os for ubuntu  is peremint still open box are they never changed back to openbox???
[03:03] <quup> Spec· whiskey?
[03:03] <ahoneybun> I recommend Arch as well
[03:03] <dr_willis> dakotawulfy:  you can just install the openbox package if you want. lubuntu uses openbox also
[03:03] <DeliriumTremens> so i think i'm missing something, i set up sshd on my ubuntu server box, and i have a variety of users set up that i would like to be able to log in remotely (all from the same machine)
[03:04] <DeliriumTremens> so on the client machine i created an ssh pub/priv keypair and i added the public key to all the users on the remote machine's auth_keys file
[03:04] <dakotawulfy> well just wondering if they had one out there so lubuntu  has openbox on their install ???
[03:04] <Willhxr> Thank you dr_willis, ahoneybun, kunji
[03:04] <DeliriumTremens> one of those users is able to login and authenticate
[03:04] <DeliriumTremens> the rest do not
[03:05] <dr_willis> dakotawulfy:  lxde/lubuntu uses openbox
[03:05] <ahoneybun> lubuntu uses lxde/openbox
[03:05] <dr_willis> openbox is trivial to install via the package manager on any *buntu system
[03:06] <dakotawulfy>  i thought it was lxde is the desktop ??? right but has openbox??
[03:06] <dr_willis> openbox is a window manager used by the desktop
[03:06] <irssi> dr_willis: should I install it to the partition /dev/sdX1 or the device /dev/sdX
[03:06] <dakotawulfy> sorry just asking was working on a openbox for ubuntu
[03:06] <dr_willis> irssi:  mbr loaders go to the mbr of the hard drive.. not a partition.  so   sda
[03:06] <dakotawulfy> distro
[03:06] <dr_willis> not sda1
[03:07] <dakotawulfy>  real easy to use and load low on ram
[03:07] <ahoneybun> Willhxr, if you want to compile your own packages, Gentoo, and Slackware would work, but Arch is a good point of understanding the inter parts of Linux
[03:07] <dr_willis> dakotawulfy:  not much point in such a thing really..  its easy to install openbox on a minimla install if thats all you want
[03:08] <ahoneybun> dakotawulfy, LXDE handles the desktop and such, openbox handles the windows
[03:08] <dakotawulfy> ok
[03:08] <dr_willis> or install lubuntu, and select openbox at the login screen
[03:08] <dr_willis> or install openbox on any *buntu and select it at the login screen
[03:08] <ahoneybun> if you want bare minimal Crunchbang uses Debian stable with XFCE/openbox
[03:09] <irssi> dr_willis: might want to update the documentation then
[03:09] <dakotawulfy>  no sorry
[03:09] <dakotawulfy>  i was making a distro that use open box
[03:09] <dr_willis> i thought lxde used lxfm
[03:09] <dr_willis> or lxwm
[03:09] <dakotawulfy>  for the main thing with other parts to make a full desktop
[03:10] <bravis> what does Ubuntu use instead of gparted to format usb?
[03:10] <ahoneybun> well Lubuntu uses openbox
[03:10] <kunji> bravis: gparted :P
[03:10] <irssi> dr_willis: syslinux is apparently not an mbr loader
[03:10] <bravis> lol ok apt get
[03:10] <irssi> dr_willis: will you fix my computer?
[03:11] <dr_willis> irssi:  part of it goes on the mbr. it then reads config files from a partition
[03:11] <kunji> bravis: At least I do, if it's doing it some other way it's probably mkfs or something
[03:11] <ahoneybun> kunji, you can use that program to install Ubuntu on a USB just to format it
[03:11] <dr_willis> irssi:  i dont even know your CORE problem
[03:11] <dakotawulfy> if u install it to the usb with regular install will it write grub to usb???
[03:11] <irssi> dr_willis: look at that documentation i was tring to boot an iso from usb for installation
[03:12] <kunji> dakotawulfy:During installation you can choose what device to write grub to
[03:12] <kunji> *: D
[03:12] <dr_willis> irssi:  you dont use syslinux to boot an iso FILE.. you can setup grub2 on a usb to boot an iso FILE
[03:12] <kunji> ahoneybun: Err, can you rephrase that question.
[03:12] <dakotawulfy> thought so just not checked it out fully last time i did it did not have harddrive hooked up just had usb
[03:13] <dr_willis> syslinux could boot the extracted files from an iso.. but grub2 method is easier
[03:13] <ahoneybun> kunji, not a question
[03:13] <irssi> dr_willis: well the documentation says that it will boot the installer then it scans for iso files
[03:13] <dr_willis> i just use grub2 to boot iso files.. perhaps its a new feature of syslinuc ive never used
[03:14] <kunji> ahoneybun: Then could you really rephrase it, because it's not making any sense to me at all T.T
[03:14] <dr_willis> the pendrivelinux site has guides on making grub2 boot iso files.
[03:16] <kunji> ahoneybun: Makes sense if you meant can't instead of can... but still, I didn't say it could be used that way.
[03:17] <zack6849> Laogeodritt, i thought so too but its skype only, the sound works just fine for all other applications
[03:17] <irssi> dr_willis: i do so
[03:18] <ahoneybun> kunji, the startup disk creator
[03:18] <irssi> dr_willis: i follow manuel
[03:19] <irssi> dr_willis: i use syslinux to boot the installer which scans for iso FILE
[03:19] <kunji> ahoneybun:umm, but I didn't say anything about the startup disk creator...
[03:19] <irssi> dr_willis: u make boot my system (slamming fist) now!
[03:20] <irssi> dr_willis: hurry up
[03:22] <dr_willis> boot what installer?  i normally boot iso files.
[03:22] <kunji> ahoneybun:Okay, I read back carefully and I see what you meant.  But the startup disk creator is pretty much a GUI with some scripts and uses some other stuff underneath, which I would hazard is still mkfs
[03:23] <irssi> dr_willis: boot the vmlinuz debian installer which scans for iso files
[03:23] <irssi> dr_willis: hurry up
[03:23] <irssi> dr_willis: u make my system boot (slamming fist) now!
[03:24] <kunji> irssi:Sounds like you're jumping through a lot of hoops, Grub2 is boss, I would highly recommend it.
[03:24] <irssi> kunji: i habe no boss
[03:25] <dr_willis> vmlinux is a kernel... not an installer...
[03:25] <kunji> irssi: Let me clarify, Grub2 is awesome
[03:25] <irssi> whatever i was just following manuel
[03:25] <kunji> irssi: Which manual?
[03:25] <irssi> someone needs to write a better manuel
[03:25] <kunji> !grub | irssi
[03:26] <dr_willis> and you tell it via options to mount the iso via the loop back features..
[03:26] <kunji> irssi: grub2 has a pretty awesome manual as well :P
[03:26] <irssi> dr_willis: I have installed syslinux which i thought was the lilo installer i followed the official documentation https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/amd64/boot-usb-files.html
[03:26] <forumcash> i have root account and i lost other account password. Is there anyway to recover it?
[03:26] <dr_willis> i only boot iso files with grub2
[03:26] <Nothing_Much> I have a problem with re enabling Unity 3D on 12.10
[03:27] <dr_willis> forumcash: you can change it. but not recover it.
[03:27] <forumcash> dr_willis: how?
[03:27] <irssi> this is the reason i cant sleep at night
[03:27] <dr_willis> sudo passwd username
[03:27] <forumcash> dr_willis: let me try
[03:28] <irssi> kunji: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/amd64/boot-usb-files.html
[03:28] <forumcash> thanks :)
[03:28] <Nothing_Much> Can somebody tell me how to re enable Unity 3D from LLVMPIPE?
[03:28] <kunji> irssi: Hmm, what is the end goal here?
[03:29] <Nothing_Much> Hello?
[03:29] <irssi> kunji: to install the iso
[03:29] <kunji> To have a usb drive to boot from and install Ubuntu to an internal hard drive?  Or to install Ubuntu to the USB drive as if it was a regular hard drive?
[03:30] <irssi> kunji: to install the iso to an internal hardrive with an advanced partitioning scheme
[03:30] <dr_willis> irssi: that guide is for making a netboot usb....
[03:30] <kunji> irssi: Just use the startup disk creator, you're killing yourself for nothing :P
[03:30] <Nothing_Much> Hmm.
[03:31] <dr_willis> dd the iso to usb.. boot it...
[03:31] <kunji> irssi: What dr_willis just said should also work
[03:31] <irssi> i know these ways will work but they require copying the file which is already on disk
[03:31] <irssi> wasting energy
[03:32] <irssi> environmental hazard the UN might arrest me
[03:32] <SanDiegoGuy> Hi guys
[03:32]  * dr_willis sees a waste here....
[03:32] <kunji> irssi: umm... isn't it wasting more energy just from the monitor to be on irc trying to figure out a different way?
[03:32] <irssi> kunji: i oftentimes get a system crash when using the usb creator also
[03:33] <kunji> irssi: Well, use dd then ^_^
[03:33] <SanDiegoGuy> can anyone help me out ?
[03:33] <kunji> !ask | SanDiegoGuy
[03:33] <SanDiegoGuy> I'm having a minor issues with xubuntu
[03:33] <dr_willis> SanDiegoGuy: with?
[03:33] <Nothing_Much> I think they're busy
[03:33] <irssi> kunji: how did you know the monitor was on
[03:33] <ahoneybun> I'm here and open
[03:33] <kalenjohnson> !patience
[03:34] <irssi> kunji: i could be blind and using braille
[03:34] <kunji> irssi: I hacked your system :P,.... sure you could be... but chances are....
[03:34] <SanDiegoGuy> so I just installed xubuntu and the panel that has the clock and other stuff is all together
[03:34] <SanDiegoGuy> I want to have the clock on the right corner but its all on the left squished
[03:34] <SanDiegoGuy> I don't know how to explain it better
[03:35] <kunji> irssi: Anyway, don't the braille systems take more energy?  Hmm, really not sure
[03:35] <irssi> well really i wanted to do what the heading says "know whats going on"
[03:35] <ahoneybun> SanDiegoGuy, right click the panel
[03:35] <SanDiegoGuy> ok
[03:36] <SanDiegoGuy> I go to panel preferences but cant seem to get the wifi indicator and clock to go on the bottom right
[03:37] <kunji> irssi: Now that's a much more viable reason :P
[03:38] <thiefy> when i wipe my comptuer (i have multiple hard drives in it) and reinstall a different OS. what happens to the ownership on the files on the other hard drives that i did not wipe?
[03:39] <kunji> thiefy: Nothing at all
[03:39] <irssi> so it boots the kernel and what is the initrd.gz?
[03:40] <kunji> irssi: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Initrd
[03:40] <thiefy> kunji and that won't cause any problems?
[03:40] <SanDiegoGuy> ok so can anyone help me please?
[03:40] <irssi> kunji: so the initrd should be the debian installer
[03:41] <kunji> irssi: I don't think so
[03:41] <irssi> kunji: so how does this manuel suppose this setup is going to boot an iso?
[03:42] <jdukiet> SanDiegoGuy: install SETI@Home and listen to some alien transmissions. You might get your answer faster ! LOL! Sorry, I wish I could help you.
[03:43] <kunji> irssi:I don't think it "boots" from the iso per se, I think it runs from the initrd and just mounts the iso as a loopback device, but I'm not too familiar with this.
[03:45] <kunji> irssi: The Debian installer should I think be in the initrd
[03:45] <irssi> kunji: maybe i should switch to debian
[03:46] <SanDiegoGuy> I fixed it
[03:46] <SanDiegoGuy> thanks for your help #ubuntu
[03:46] <kunji> SanDiegoGuy: Can you tell us what you did?
[03:47] <kunji> irssi: Maybe, I don't know your situation.
[03:47] <irssi> kunji: same as i told dr_willis just trying to do exactly what the manwel says
[03:48] <irssi> that is my constituation
[03:48] <SanDiegoGuy> added a separator and hit expand separator
[03:49] <dr_willis> irssi: that guide is for making a netboot usb....   not boot an iso file
[03:49] <kunji> irssi: As dr_willis said though, that guide is actually for netbooting
[03:49] <dr_willis> so im done.
[03:49] <irssi> well the guide says otherwise
[03:50] <kunji> SanDiegoGuy: Thanks for letting us know, I would have helped, but I've actually never used Xubuntu so I didn't know that.
[03:50] <irssi> this channel basically nullifies anything the documentation says so between the two it is 0 support
[03:50] <kunji> irssi: Let me quote the guide, "For the first installation method you'll need to download an installer image from the netboot directory"
[03:51] <irssi> kunji: but i was doing the second method that says "to know what is going on"
[03:52] <irssi> kunji: and ends with — you have the option
[03:52] <irssi> of copying a full CD ISO image to it.
[03:53] <kunji> irssi: mmk, I think I see what you mean
[03:53] <irssi> see
[03:53] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[03:53] <irssi> i try to open up peoples eyes
[03:54] <kunji> irssi: So, what was the actual problem following that?
[03:54] <irssi> this channel reminds me of a bunch of newborn pinkey hamsters whose eylids havent opened yet
[03:54] <dr_willis> too bad your attitude makes them /ignore you
[03:54] <irssi> see
[03:55] <irssi> yeah bad attitude trying to save them from the snakes
[03:55] <eightiesk> hell o
[03:56] <dr_willis> hi eightiesk
[03:56] <kunji> irssi: Ah, I found your original issue.  Should an mbr have been created... well that depends how your formatted doesn't it
[03:56] <kunji> *you
[03:57] <irssi> kunji: i did so using the guides suggestions
[03:57] <kunji> cfdisk?
[03:57] <sidney_> Can I set the kernel boot options from a live cd?
[03:57] <irssi> kunji: it made sense to me that the final part about mbr was in the case that a preformatted stick was used that manwel mentions earlier
[03:58] <dr_willis> sidney_: you mean edit an installled systems options? or the lice cds?
[03:58] <irssi> kunji: yes cfdisk
[03:58] <sidney_> an installed system but I has to use a cd to boot the system
[03:58] <kunji> irssi: Well, I'm not really familiar with cfdisk, I don't know if it's supposed to or not
[03:59] <irssi> kunji: well gparted seems to claim it formatas the mbr
[03:59] <irssi> so trying that
[03:59] <kunji> irssi: mmk, I usually use gparted for all my formatting needs
[03:59] <sidney_> dr_willis, I was getting a blank screen on boot in 10.04
[03:59] <dr_willis> sidney_: you can do that without a live cd via the grub boot editing feature
[04:00] <dr_willis> !nomodeset
[04:00] <irssi> everytime i click on the fishbowl icon for help seems like i get some community documentation that always says add such and such a package and someone iw waiting right there with a trojan spliced onto the end of the package
[04:01] <kunji> irssi: You could just download the source and compile if you're that paranoid :P
[04:01] <irssi> kunji: working to get to that level but i need some fairly clean tools to operate with to start
[04:01] <sidney_> dr_willis, I if i choose nomodeset  @ the grub boot screen is that perminate?
[04:02] <irssi> how can a fish jump out of the pond
[04:02] <dr_willis> sidney_:      nope.     its a one time thing.. grub cant really write to the system that way
[04:02] <dr_willis> sidney_:  edit /etc/default/grub for perment changes
[04:02] <kunji> irssi: Well, first get a disposable fish, toss that out of the pond, if it's all good, then jump out :P
[04:03] <sidney_> ok I see will it boot'
[04:03] <irssi> kunji: i am hoping the LTS 64 bit system will support virtual machines, in preperation what packages would be needed to install virtual machines
[04:04] <irssi> kunji: virtual machines are disposable in a way
[04:04] <kunji> irssi: Real hardware is equally disposable, just work under the assumption that you might need to wipe and start again.
[04:04] <Gumby> hi all.  perhaps an odd Q, but does anyone know how to create a desktop icon that would simulate a keyboard shortcut (ie: pressing multiple buttons together).
[04:04] <trietptm> Hello everybody, I intend to install Ubuntu LTS 64-bit to setup Cuckoo sandbox, could you tell me if there is any limitation or inconvenience while doing malware analysis with Ubuntu 64-bit versus Ubuntu 32-bit?
[04:04] <pinguy> hi
[04:04] <kunji> irssi: Until you have the setup for virtual machines at least
[04:05] <pinguy> someone to talk?
[04:05] <irssi> kunji: time consuming dd over and over again
[04:05] <dr_willis> trietptm:  what kind of malware?
[04:05] <irssi> one reason why i wanted to be able to boot the ISO's
[04:06] <ttoti> Hey guys. Is there a channel I can join to learn about more information on contributing code to Ubuntu?
[04:06] <trietptm> Windows malware
[04:06] <Tex_Nick> dr_willis & kunji : i don't think i made myself perfectly clear on the graphics driver i was using ... it was the open source driver NOT the proprietary driver, which was recommended driver ? ... i switched drivers & now have the catalyst control center ... full control of my graphics & it fixed the boot detection problem on second monitor ... i should have been using that driver from the very start ... thanks to both of you for pointin
[04:06] <Tex_Nick> g me in that direction :-)
[04:06] <dr_willis> trietptm:  may as well stick to 32bit then. since you will be using wine for your core work
[04:07] <irssi> kunji: do you mean real software or hardware
[04:07] <dr_willis> Tex_Nick:  for full controll you normally want the propitary driver.
[04:07] <kunji> Tex_Nick: Ah, sorry about that, yeah, I don't think I tried on this machine with the open source driver.  I thought it was marked as recommended instead of the updates one or something.
[04:08] <kunji> Tex_Nick: glad it's working now though ^_^
[04:08] <irssi> kunji: i will try it now, maybe ttyl
[04:08] <Tex_Nick> dr_willis : yeah i understand sir ... thanks ;-)
[04:09] <Tex_Nick> kunji : yeah ... i just didn't make it clear ... man i luv this box ... tis the most stable linux build i've evre done ;-)
[04:12] <CreepDeck> Hi, I am about to install ufw firewall on slackware 14.0, is there any dependency for ufw except for iptables?
[04:14] <kunji> CreepDeck: slackware is not supported in this channel, also I don't know the answer to that question :P
[04:15] <CreepDeck> I am using a software created by ubuntu developers, so I thought this was the right place...
[04:15] <escott> CreepDeck, i believe its a python program
[04:16] <kunji> CreepDeck: ufw was?  It should have separate support, though I haven't really looked yet.
[04:16] <CreepDeck> Sounds good, is the daemon compatible with sysvinit systems or only upstart?
[04:18] <CreepDeck> nvm, I'll tias.
[04:18] <kunji> CreepDeck: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/en/man8/ufw.8.html
[04:19] <ttoti> Hey guys, is there anyway to decrease the time it takes for laptop to wake up from suspend? It takes about 2 min for mine to wake up. In eOS i was able to wake up in about 10 secs
[04:19] <sidney_> dr_willis, thanks
[04:20] <kunji> CreepDeck: Nevermind, I thought dependencies would have been there, but I don't see them
[04:22] <edmondl> hello I have a rtl8192ce chipset wireless card and its being intermittent it says it is a known issue on the website is their a workaround?
[04:23] <edmondl> !wireless
[04:23] <dr_willis> if its a known bug.. hopefully they fix it in a newer kernel
[04:24] <edmondl> dr_willis, I can get it to work fine in Mint 14 but I can't remember the file i edited
[04:24] <codephobic> hi, I'm trying to setup a file share across my lan, between a debian squeeze box and ubuntu. The debian is setup to share folders using Samba and I've added users and made them members of the relevant group.
[04:24] <edmondl> Its been a while
[04:25] <codephobic> I can't seem to get ubuntu to access the files though, although with the same permissions I can access the files over ssh
[04:25] <dr_willis> codephobic:  for a linux to linux setup  you may want to look into sshfs
[04:26] <dr_willis> codephobic:        you did guve the users all samba passwords with   sudo smbpasswd -a username ?
[04:26] <codephobic> dr_willis, is that better than using samba? I have windows machines (well, a laptop and this machine's other hd) that will connect too, so I used samba.
[04:26] <codephobic> ah!
[04:26] <codephobic> maaaaybe not...
[04:26] <dr_willis> windows can use winscp ;)
[04:27] <dr_willis> i tend to enable the homes share. and give users a  samba passwd.. And away it works
[04:27] <dr_willis> but i tend to use sshfs for linux to linux
[04:27] <ironhalik> wow - had a lot of geek fun. I've setup an atheros based wireless repeater bridge :>
[04:27] <codephobic> dr_willis, is ssh a better than samba? I though ssh was mostly good for remote admin work.
[04:28] <dr_willis> ssh is a multi tool
[04:28] <dr_willis> !info sshfs
[04:28] <trietptm> I'm following: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GraphicalInstall#continueinstall , if I choose "Install Ubuntu alongside them", will it autmatically create a swap, root, home space like this scheme: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PartitioningSchemes ?
[04:28] <codephobic> well, I'll definitely look into it more tomorrow, tonight I just want to get my samba shares working
[04:28] <Tex_Nick> one minor glitch has occurred after changing the driver ... my sensors indicator temp1 now shows an ERROR on radeon-pci0008/0 ... would the best thing be to remove & reinstall sensors ?
[04:29] <dr_willis> codephobic:  how are you accessing the shares and what errors
[04:29] <huhuhaha> hello
[04:30] <codephobic> dr_willis, I setup openssh on the debian, so I just used the account to login
[04:31] <edmondl> dr_willis, Problem solved
[04:31] <codephobic> in nautilus, the "connect to server" option, using ssh.
[04:31] <edmondl> http://askubuntu.com/questions/205575/12-10-x64-rtl8188ce-intermittent-slow-internet-connection/206574#206574
[04:31] <cnblue> Hi, ibus can't switch to any IME i choose in WINE apps , anyone know a fix to that ?
[04:31] <codephobic> but when I try to connect to "windows share", the password gets rejected
[04:32] <holstein> codephobic: you can ping the machine? and login locally with the password? and the user has rights to the share?
[04:32] <dr_willis> codephobic:  you did give the user a samba password? its not set by default
[04:32] <net> kunji: wikipedia to netsplit
[04:32] <codephobic> dr_willis, how do you set a samba passwd? I set passwords for users I create on debian with "passwd <password>", but I've not set anything samba specific for the user
[04:32] <dr_willis> codephobic:        you did guve the users all samba passwords with   sudo smbpasswd -a username ?
[04:33] <dr_willis> a user has a password AND a sambapassword.. ;)
[04:33] <codephobic> holstein, I can login locally and over the lan, using ssh, on all the accounts I've setup on the debian
[04:33] <dr_willis> theres some way to sync the 2.. but i forget how
[04:34] <codephobic> dr_willis, thanks I'll try that now ... so in debian I set that for the user.
[04:34] <brainysmurf> sudo service php5-fpm start gives no error, no feedback of any kind, what do I check? I've already tried the logs.
[04:34] <brainysmurf> although status check gives "php5-fpm is not running" response
[04:34] <trietptm> Hello everybody, I'm following tutorial: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GraphicalInstall#continueinstall , if I choose "Install Ubuntu alongside them", will it autmatically create a swap, root, home space similarly to this scheme: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PartitioningSchemes ?
[04:35] <holstein> trietptm: yes
[04:36] <trietptm> @holstein: Will the swap space at least equal to my RAM size?
[04:36] <trietptm> automatically
[04:36] <holstein> trietptm: yes
[04:37] <net> kunji: so its the hardware
[04:37] <woo> Im looking for a Network Simulator for Ubuntu 12.04 any suggestions?
[04:39] <codephobic> dr_willis, I've added the smbpasswd for each user
[04:40] <codephobic> now I can "connect", but it tells me that it's "unable to mount windows share"
[04:40] <holstein> codephobic: ive always had a challenge with samba.. i usually just do ssh
[04:40] <kunji> net: What are you talking about?
[04:41] <codephobic> holstein, I've managed to use it perfectly well before, but recently been busy with so many other things and forgot what little I knew before... now I find myself a little lost halfway down the road
[04:41] <dr_willis> codephobic:  ive also seen where i have to use the servers ip# not its name for samba
[04:42] <bigbadben> My computer just crashed how do I figure out why? I had to do a hard reset
[04:42] <holstein> i use ips as well
[04:42] <dr_willis> ctrl-l in nautilus  -->   smb://server.ip.num.ber/sharename
[04:42] <codephobic> dr_willis, I've been using the ip, to try and connect
[04:42] <dr_willis> essier then using that connect to.. wizard
[04:43] <woo> bigbadben: dmsg | tail
[04:43] <woo> sorry
[04:43] <woo> bigbadben: dmesg | tail
[04:43] <bigbadben> Also does anyone have any knowledge on configuring the sensors.config for your mother board
[04:44] <bigbadben> woo: how do I read this?
[04:44] <woo> bigbadben: that is a list of a few of the errors your ubuntu has logged
[04:44] <j__> #/join philosophy
[04:44] <j__> woops
[04:45] <brainysmurf> What do I check if /etc/init.d file doesn't actually start the service without any error?
[04:45] <dr_willis> brainysmurf:  spme services have config files to set logging options and may have verbose logging options
[04:46] <kunji> bigbadben: Well, it's not just the errors, also many errors would be in the syslog.  they're both in /var/log/ if you want to look at them with any text editor.  tail is nice because it just grabs the end.  You could pastebin those file if you would like someone here to check them out.
[04:46] <kunji> *files
[04:47] <net> too many errors
[04:47] <bigbadben> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5569635/
[04:47] <bigbadben> if someone could help me out I would be appreciative
[04:48] <net> how apreciative bigbadben
[04:48] <codephobic> "Error: Failed to mount Windows share
[04:48] <codephobic> Please select another viewer and try again"
[04:48] <brainysmurf> Setting verbosity doesn't seem to work. It is definitely running the file in init.d though
[04:48] <dr_willis> codephobic:  try the other direction. setup a share on the linux box. saee if windows sees it
[04:48] <holstein> codephobic: can you navigate with smb://ip ?
[04:49] <woo> bigbadben: touch events && dmesg | less | cat >> events | gedit events.  Could get you a nice view of the errors reported
[04:49] <codephobic> holstein, yes I can navigate to the ip, I see the share folder and the printer$ folder
[04:49]  * dr_willis recalls why he uses sshfs and winscp
[04:49] <codephobic> I just can't access it
[04:49] <holstein> codephobic: then its permissions related, serverside i would guess
[04:50] <dr_willis> codephobic:  the linux user name is identical to the windows users name?
[04:50] <codephobic> dr_willis, I'll have a go with that tomorrow - it's 5am (almost), here - I'm just going to give this another couple of goes, before I quit for the night (day?)
[04:51] <codephobic> dr_willis, the same name and password. I use a set of accounts across all my machines
[04:51] <dr_willis> i always setup same name, same passwords. and same samba passwords
[04:51] <dr_willis> you may want to test with a guest share. and perhaps turn off the windows firewall
[04:52] <codephobic> holstein, I think I set the passwords up correctly, not sure what more I could alter on the serverside.
[04:52] <codephobic> dr_willis, I'm testing between ubuntu (client - this machine) and debian (server - on another machine).
[04:53] <holstein> codephobic: i usually open *everything* up... set up shares with no restrictions.. and test.. ping..
[04:53] <skcin7> Is there a way to recursively search a directory for a specific string in the _contents_ of a file?
[04:54] <codephobic> one weird thing is that when ubuntu pops up with the box for the credentials, it keeps changing the domain to "HOMENET" (whereas I set it to something else in samba.conf - to match the machine's domain).
[04:54] <nextone> Anyone here when know which kernel version is used by ubuntu 12..10
[04:54] <dr_willis> you restarted samba service after doing that?
[04:55] <codephobic> holstein, I have access to the server, over ssh - I'm making the changes we're talking about, over ssh
[04:55] <codephobic> dr_willis, yes
[04:56] <bigbadben> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5569642/
[04:56] <holstein> !patience | bigbadben
[04:56] <tunnelcharger> Has anyone had Ubuntu 12.10  lock up after "checking battery status"
[04:56] <holstein> bigbadben: you might want to elaborate as to what is making that happen
[04:56] <nextone> Thanks.
[04:56] <bigbadben> nextone uname -a
[04:56] <holstein> !tty | tunnelcharger is what i would use to see if its "locking up" or not
[04:57] <codephobic> it's annoying because I can easily access the shares if I use ssh in nautilus, I just wanted to make the whole thing work "correctly" (as I intended it to work) rather than have a "feature" that was wholly unintentional (I had not thought to use ssh over nautilus).
[04:58] <bigbadben> The screen freezes and I try Ctrl+alt+f1 and nothing happens I think it might be my gpu but I am unsure
[04:58] <tunnelcharger> Ctrl-alt f1-f6 do nothing, its been sitting for a while.
[04:58] <brainysmurf> Ha. Now I got the verbosity to just say "...fail!" ... so useful
[04:59] <mintux> how can I download several directory using lftp? I use mirror -c <dir>  to download 1 directory but if I want to download several directory what command should I use? for example mirror -c <dir1> <dir2> ... means after finish <dir1> start <dir2> and go on
[04:59] <holstein> bigbadben: what "triggers" it?
[05:02] <codephobic> wow! finally got it to work
[05:02] <bigbadben> holstein: I have no clue it just happens that is why I was looking for a error log but I can not understand any of it.
[05:03] <dr_willis> codephobic: it just magicly started working!
[05:03] <codephobic> dr_willis, that and the fact that I had an ssh session open in another tab
[05:03] <codephobic> it is 5am in the morning after all
[05:03] <tunnelcharger> I should have stuck with 12.04... updating it made it not work...
[05:03] <bigbadben> when I turn the computer back on it asks me if I would like to report the error I click yes and it prompts me for the Kubuntu password/keyring which for some reason always says my password is wrong.
[05:03] <codephobic> damn, I need another hobby :(
[05:04] <dr_willis> sleep is my hobby.
[05:05] <tunnelcharger> Dr_Willis that is a great hobby
[05:05] <codephobic> Is it possible to drives that are on the samba server, with the client? do I just have to configure samba.conf and all the directories?
[05:06] <codephobic> I tried adding them as symbolic links, but they're not working
[05:06] <tortik> Lubuntu 12.04, update problem: after I click 'install updates' I get an error http://paste.kde.org/682712/61941486/ What is the problem?
[05:06] <holstein> bigbadben: i would apply upgrades.. i would try booting an earlier kernel.. is this something new?
[05:06] <dr_willis> samba can have issues with links
[05:07] <tunnelcharger> Hello there failed fallback graphics devices
[05:08]  * Tex_Nick thinks dr_willis spends 1 hour a day on his hobby & 23 hours helping people ;-)
[05:08] <bigbadben> holstein: It has happened before but only on the rare occasion but this time I lost some unsaved files so I want to prevent it from happening again.
[05:09] <dr_willis> this weekend i played skyrim as i irc'd from my tablet. ;-)
[05:09] <holstein> bigbadben: could also be hardware related
[05:09] <dr_willis> multi tasking
[05:10] <woo> !ssh | bigbadben: I use ssh to back up and host
[05:10] <tunnelcharger> Nobody knows why my computer keeps locking up or how I could even try to fix it?
[05:10] <woo> tunnelcharger: is it a toshiba laptop?
[05:11] <tinker>  server efnet 80
[05:11] <tunnelcharger> Woo: Nope, desktop with nvidia graphics card
[05:11] <woo> tunnelcharger: compiz-extras?
[05:12] <bigbadben> Thats what I am thinking I just installed lm_sensors and I feel I might have to configure the settings to fit my motherboard but I cant find any good reads on it.
[05:12] <tunnelcharger> woo: what's that?
[05:13] <woo> tunnelcharger: nvm if you didn't change it.  did you update the card with the additional software?
[05:13] <woo> tunnelcharger: additional drivers*
[05:14] <bigbadben> the reason I believe it could be my gpu is because nothing happened after I Ctrl+Alt+F1 ed and sensors says the pci slot is 109F but I am not sure how accurate that is.
[05:14] <tunnelcharger> woo: 304 beta drivers before I updated to 12.10
[05:15] <woo> tunnelcharger: might wanna try a roll back on the drivers.  then go thru the list again.  It worked for me wish . try >>
[05:15] <woo> !nvidia | tunnelcharger
[05:16] <dn4> any idea on how to get ubuntu to rite this in latex using firefox $$\vert \phi \rangle\, = \, a \vert 1 \rangle \, + \, be^{i\phi}\vert 0 \rangle \, + \, ce^{i\delta} \vert -1 \rangle \; \; . $$
[05:16] <crazyhorse> hi.. i'm trying to setup an ubuntu environment for software development.. i need the ability to create complete new images quickly by running a bunch of scripts
[05:16] <crazyhorse> is there anyway i can have interchangeable booting OSs's
[05:16] <woo> !pxe | crazyhorse
[05:17] <woo> lame
[05:17] <garbagegod> How's the PPC support these days, fellas?
[05:17] <crazyhorse> i.e. start one OS as a VM.. and then later set that VM as the booting OS? that kinda thing
[05:17] <holstein> garbagegod: EOL
[05:17] <woo> crazyhorse: pxe stacking to host the images.  and you could use a vm to build them
[05:17] <tunnelcharger> woo: I cat launch Ubuntu, how am I supposed to change the drivers?
[05:17] <dr_willis> garbagegod: i imagine not very well
[05:18] <woo> tunnelcharger: can you get to a tty?
[05:18] <dr_willis> !ppc
[05:18] <crazyhorse> woo: right.. so basically i can have an array of images and switch between them?
[05:18] <crazyhorse> does ubuntu have any hardware level vm support?
[05:19] <woo> dr_willis: how do you change out nvidia updates with bash?
[05:19] <doomlord> powerpc ditched in nextgen gamees machines...RIP powerpC
[05:19] <garbagegod> hmph.
[05:19] <doomlord> What is the world coming to... x86 game consoles .
[05:19] <garbagegod> why the hell did I buy these macs
[05:19] <tunnelcharger> Woo: what does tty even mean, and ctrl-alt f1-6 don't work... only thing is the grub menu, win xp, and a the Linux boot repair CD...
[05:20] <holstein> garbagegod: i run headless servers on my old ppc hardware... works great
[05:20] <garbagegod> holstein: what version are you running
[05:20] <woo> tunnelcharger: grub config to no buffer
[05:21] <holstein> garbagegod: whatever will work. 12.04 should be fine headless
[05:22] <garbagegod> maybe... bitcoin mining?
[05:22] <garbagegod> doubt that
[05:22] <woo> tunnelcharger: or in grub edit the boot command @ the [linux] line append to the end "init 3" and remove "quiet"
[05:24] <tunnelcharger> Woo: you lost me... I don't understand grub enough yet...
[05:24] <woo> tunnelcharger: its tricky
[05:24] <woo> tunnelcharger: pm?
[05:25] <crazyhorse> my server environment is 12.04.. should i be using 12.10 for my development environment or 12.04?
[05:25] <crazyhorse> does it make that much of a difference in terms of compatability?
[05:25] <tunnelcharger> Woo: sure
[05:26] <zen_7777> I just installed 12.10 and wish I had strayed with 12.04
[05:26] <soujanya> which server is support to run php programs ?
[05:26] <kunji> zen_7777: My case is the opposite
[05:26] <zen_7777> 12.10 very slow page loads and mouse works strnagly
[05:26] <kunji> crazyhorse: dev and production should really be the same
[05:26] <crazyhorse> soujanya: apache/nginx
[05:27] <crazyhorse> kunji: yeah this is really we have dev / integration / uat / production / testing are all the boxes
[05:27] <crazyhorse> dev runs on very different hardware
[05:27] <crazyhorse> well still intel x86 but i5 instead of xeon etc
[05:27] <kunji> zen_7777: Well, I may have regretted it if I was experiencing those issues, but I'm not.  And 12.10 fixed a kernel bug for me that was screwing up my wireless badly
[05:28] <zen_7777> kunji, I installed it from an iso file then installed Gnome desktop worked terrific for a few days then started acting up...others seem to have the same problems as i just stated
[05:28] <kunji> crazyhorse: I would still stick with 12.04 for it, the package versions will continue to diverge over time.
[05:28] <Tex_Nick> !details | zen_7777
[05:28] <crazyhorse> kunji: ok, thanks.. so basically just keep all the development computers in sync with the production systems
[05:28] <zen_7777> kunji, terrific! glad you are having such a good experience with it
[05:29] <kunji> crazyhorse: That's what I would recommend.
[05:31] <zen_7777> ubottu, i first installed 12.10 by just doing an update...server would freeze all the time after just a few mins..no mouse response or keyboard would work...had to keep shutting down with te button...then did total install from iso now it is operatring very slow and don't know wh
[05:32] <zen_7777> and don't know why  it is so slow
[05:32] <zen_7777> lmao @ ubottu
[05:33] <kunji> !ubottu | zen_7777
[05:34] <zen_7777> omg, ubottu, now you have me wodering but i will ck out those sites
[05:35] <bluebomber64> hello?
[05:35] <crazyhorse> is there anyway to mount encrypted Mac OS Extended partitions?
[05:36] <kunji> zen_7777: ubottu really is a bot, the commands are prefixed with a "!" and piped with "|" to others in the channel
[05:37] <krnl386> crazyhorse, afaik no, there isn't
[05:38] <zen_7777> omg! thanks, kunji...the bot must now think i am an idiot
[05:38] <zen_7777> ;-)
[05:39] <kunji> zen_7777: you're in luck, the bot has no concept of an idiot
[05:39] <kunji> !idiot | zen_7777
[05:40] <zen_7777> did i say i LOVE linux and would like to destroy the costly world of microsxxx? maybe gates has tried to sabatoge my server
[05:40] <Tex_Nick> lol
[05:40] <zen_7777> lol kunji ;-)
[05:40] <Niklaus>  
[05:40] <kunji> !gender
[05:41] <methril_> i uninstalled windows
[05:41] <zen_7777> methril, me too...and i had a bootleg copy of microsoft server 2003
[05:42] <methril_> I did it because I have a netbook and it can barely run windows that comes on it
[05:42] <Tex_Nick> please don't tease/feed the bot !!! ;-) LOL
[05:43] <soujanya> i want to install apache
[05:43] <soujanya> I want to install apache for my php app, crazyhorse
[05:43] <kunji> soujanya: Umm, then install apache?
[05:44] <zen_7777> soujana, it is super easy...i forget the actual comand but jist do a google for it
[05:44] <soujanya> I don't know how to go further installing apache, kunji
[05:44] <soujanya> please guide
[05:44] <ade> ime pulling my hair out trying to install lexmark s305 printer on 12.04.
[05:44] <kunji> soujanya: You can install a whole lamp stack with one command, and then choosing a password for mysql, want to do it that way?
[05:44] <zen_7777> soujana what ios your operating system?
[05:45] <Tex_Nick> soujanya:  have you asked in #httpd ... that channel is more taylored to apache
[05:45] <soujanya> yes kunji
[05:45] <ade> help
[05:45] <soujanya> I got this error when trying to install apache2 initially "couldn't get lock"
[05:46] <kunji> soujanya:Oh, maybe you're already doing it right
[05:46] <soujanya> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5569695/
[05:46] <kunji> soujanya: That means you probably can't install anything
[05:47] <kunji> soujanya: Do you have something else open that might have a lock, like aptitude, or the software center?
[05:47] <zen_7777> SOUJANYA, DO YOU TRY INSTALLATION FROM OOT?
[05:47] <krnl386> soujanya, are you running the install command as root?
[05:47] <zen_7777> sorry caps
[05:47] <krnl386> e.g. sudo apt-get install apache2
[05:47] <krnl386> not just apt-get install apache2
[05:48] <kunji> krnl386: I'm pretty sure that give a different message
[05:48] <zen_7777> try sudo su to get to root then run krnl386's command
[05:48] <kunji> zen_7777: no need for su here, I guarantee it
[05:49] <kunji> zen_7777: I mean, sudo will be fine
[05:49] <ttoti> Its probably cause he is updating something or installing something
[05:49] <zen_7777> i'm an idiot, soujana, listen to krnji
[05:49] <krnl386> zen_7777, you're right, typically it's a permission denied, not resource temporarily unavailable
[05:49] <kunji> ttoti: what I was thinking, but even if aptitude is just open I believe it has a lock
[05:49] <krnl386> yeah most likely there's another update already happening...
[05:50] <ttoti> kunji: Then he could just sudo it
[05:50] <kunji> ttoti: sudo actually doesn't let you override the lock, you would need to find and kill off the process using it
[05:51] <krnl386> kunji, correct, need to find what's using the dplg database
[05:51] <zen_7777> sudo apt-get update...then sudo apt-get-upgrade...then sudo apt-get install apache...maybe or maybe nt?
[05:51] <kunji> zen_7777: nah, can't do any of that if you can't get the lock
[05:51] <krnl386> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5569705/ <-- this will tell you what's using /var/lib/dpkg
[05:53] <zen_7777> listen to kunji...another stupid question could her problem with instlling apache have something to do with permissions she could change with ftp?
[05:53] <kunji> soujana: yep, what krnl386 just sent, running that command will let you see what has the lock, in his case aptitude has it.  You'll need to stop any existing processes that have the lock, and then try installing apache.
[05:54] <zen_7777> thanks for the lessons, kunji ;-)
[05:55] <zen_7777> what would cause locks like that to occur?
[05:55] <kunji> zen_7777: Not really, that would generate a different error.  Are you familiar with locks, like they are used for transactions?  Basically this file is pretty important, so when a process uses it, it must be certain that it is the only process touching this stuff so there aren't concurrency problems...
[05:56] <zen_7777> nope, kunji...i am all eyes and ears to learbs as much as i can
[05:57] <kunji> zen_7777: So if you run apt-get something, it takes a lock until it is finished, and nothing else can touch that stuff until it is done.  For instance, you can try running two apt-get install somethings at the same time, the second one won't work because the first one is running.
[05:57] <zen_7777> thanks for the explanation, kunji...did sonji leave?
[05:57] <kunji> zen_7777: Frontends also tend to find it appropriate to take a lock, so aptitude actually takes it when it starts, even when it isn't doing anything
[05:58] <kunji> zen_7777: Nope, still here, been quiet though I guess
[05:59] <Tex_Nick> zen_7777:  in your free time you might have a look at this ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_locking
[05:59] <jda2000> ive done an "apt-get install parted-doc"  how do I view the documentation?
[05:59] <zen_7777> soujana, how you doing? any of this helping you out?
[05:59] <zen_7777> thanks, Tex
[06:00] <krnl386> jda2000, try sudo dpkg -L parted-doc
[06:00] <krnl386> this will give you a list of files installed by the parted-doc package
[06:00] <krnl386> having said that, usually docs are installed under /usr/share/doc or /usr/share/man
[06:01] <zen_7777> Tex, just added the link to my collections of ones to ck out
[06:01] <krnl386> in case of /usr/share/man, you should use the man command to read the docs… for example if you see something like /usr/share/man/man5/acl.5.gz, try "man acl" to see the doc
[06:02] <jda2000> krnl386, OK the README file has the answer:   "info -f parted.info"
[06:03] <zen_7777> anyone have any ideas on why vs 12.10 is causing me trouble? very slow pages and movement of the cursor a short while after rebooting?
[06:03] <krnl386> yup, that works too :) although info is a pretty old school system :/ I prefer man :)
[06:04] <krnl386> zen_7777, try running top in a terminal to see if something's hogging resources
[06:04] <zen_7777> krnl386, how do i do that?
[06:04] <krnl386> run the terminal app, then run the top command
[06:04] <zen_7777> is top a command?
[06:05] <kunji> yep
[06:05] <krnl386> yup
[06:05] <soujanya> yes
[06:05] <zen_7777> open terminal and enter command <top>  ???
[06:05] <kunji> zen_7777: q to exit it when you're done
[06:06] <kunji> soujanya: Ah, you're still here, did you find what process had the lock?
[06:07] <zen_7777> kunji, open terminal and enter command <top>  then <q> to quit?
[06:07] <dr_willis> try it and see. ;)
[06:08] <kunji> zen_7777: Yeah, when you're ready to quit, so after you've checked it out while having the slowness
[06:08] <zen_7777> after looking at info provided by top of course...omg thx for the advice, bo
[06:08] <dr_willis> if you like top,  the htop command is an imoroved/prettier top
[06:08] <zen_7777> bro*
[06:08] <zen_7777> thank you, doctor
[06:09] <zen_7777> anything special i should look for?
[06:09]  * dr_willis recalls the old top in a transparent root window gimmic from years back
[06:09] <Tex_Nick> zen_7777:  a gui interface to top is "system monitor/processes" it's not as complete as top ... but good for a look
[06:10] <zen_7777> thx again, Tex
[06:10] <zen_7777> will try each of those, guys, really thanks loads
[06:10] <kunji> zen_7777: Actually though, I find that the system monitor can itself use a lot of cpu (maybe on graph generation?), and also slowly leaks memory T.T
[06:11] <zen_7777> you know i tired to reduce it to what ever it is that is the lower use of graphics bt w/o mch success in speed
[06:12] <zen_7777> kunji, do you make house calls?
[06:12] <kunji> zen_7777: Oh... wait a sec, were you using Unity 2d before?
[06:12] <zen_7777> ;-)
[06:12] <Tex_Nick> kunji : sys mon has mem leaks ?
[06:12] <kunji> zen_7777: lol, nah, too busy
[06:13] <kunji> Tex_Nick: I believe so, usage slowly goes up as a leave it running over days, I've had it over 500 MB
[06:14] <kunji> Tex_Nick: I haven't tried running it through valgrind of anything though.
[06:14] <zen_7777> kunji, i almost always get an error message about compoz and graphics wen i first boot p...says something about how i should be using hardware 3d rather than software...i dont use the server to play games
[06:14] <zen_7777> and do not even think it has much cPBILITY FOR 3D
[06:14] <crazyhorse> hang on
[06:14] <crazyhorse> i started downloading ubuntu
[06:14] <Tex_Nick> kunji : ok thanks for the heads up :)
[06:14] <crazyhorse> and it days -desktop-amd64.iso
[06:14] <crazyhorse> but i've got a friggen i5 processor
[06:15] <kunji> zen_7777: Ah, so you were probably using Unity 2d before then, but if you take a look, it's gone in 12.10... so that could be the problem
[06:15] <penguinman> you might consider switching to a different de even
[06:15] <kunji> crazyhorse: amd64 is the machine instruction language used for the i5
[06:15] <dr_willis> craziness that will eork
[06:15] <dr_willis> work
[06:15] <zen_7777> yes, kunji, so what can i do to solve that problem?
[06:15] <crazyhorse> oh ok
[06:15] <crazyhorse> why's it called and then?
[06:16] <crazyhorse> AMD?
[06:16] <dr_willis> its amds creation..
[06:16] <penguinman> crazyhorse: because amd developed the instruction set
[06:16] <crazyhorse> haha ok
[06:16] <kunji> zen_7777: I would go with dr_willis's suggestion if the speed is important to you, maybe try using LXDE instead of Unity
[06:16] <crazyhorse> they invented the current instruction set for modern CPUs?
[06:16] <zen_7777> anyway to scroll back up on the chat session?
[06:16] <kunji> crazyhorse: yup
[06:16] <dr_willis> the 64bit extentions
[06:16] <d3sx> hey guys
[06:17] <crazyhorse> interesting
[06:17] <kunji> crazyhorse: intel briefly did their own afterwards, but it didn't really catch on
[06:17] <zen_7777> LXDE, if i install that will it just wipe out gnome or do i ave to uninstall gnome?
[06:17] <d3sx> i got a question maybe you guys can help
[06:17] <cfhowlett> zen_7777, it will NOT uninstall gnome it will just install lxde
[06:17] <kunji> zen_7777: You can have them both installed and choose at login which one you want to use
[06:17] <dr_willis> nice when 2 tech companies work together instead of sueing each other
[06:17] <crazyhorse> ok.. is there a way to make a list of packages for a distro to download?
[06:18] <crazyhorse> basically a set of apt-get install this/that etc
[06:18] <cfhowlett> zen_7777, uninstalling gnome is probably not the best idea.  seems it's required for some packages thus removal might break something
[06:18] <crazyhorse> also can i cache the downloads anywhere
[06:18] <dr_willis> crazyhorse: a simple bash script can do that
[06:18] <crazyhorse> and even better can i cache pre-compiled versions?
[06:18] <d3sx> my ubuntu 12 install has been stuck at creating partition tables for / ext3 for quite some time
[06:18] <d3sx> is this normal
[06:18] <kunji> crazyhorse: Could use a .deb package and just list them as dependencies, or use a BASH script, etc.. there's quite a few ways
[06:18] <cfhowlett> d3sx, what feedback are you seeing?  partition takes seconds
[06:19] <dr_willis> !info apt-cacher-ng
[06:19] <d3sx> the bar is full
[06:19] <d3sx> its just takin foreeevver
[06:19] <cfhowlett> d3sx, paste
[06:19] <d3sx> kk
[06:19] <zen_7777> t/u cfhowlett
[06:19] <crazyhorse> well i usually write all my scripts in ruby.... but i'd like to not have to need an external internet connection
[06:19] <cfhowlett> zen_7777, best of luck
[06:19] <crazyhorse> every time i set one up
[06:19] <kunji> d3sx: Umm, how long, what hardware?
[06:20] <DuyPham> Hi everebody! I have a question. I running a VPS with Ubuntu, I deleted some files via command line, but the disk space is not freed
[06:20] <crazyhorse> oh duypham:
[06:20] <crazyhorse> duypham: apt-get ncdu
[06:20] <crazyhorse> DuyPham: awesome program.. check it out http://dev.yorhel.nl/ncdu/changes
[06:20] <DuyPham> @crazyhorse: i'm listening...
[06:20] <d3sx>  creating ext3 file system for / in partition #5...i just wiped linux mint to get ubuntu and now this
[06:21] <d3sx> its been goin for about 20mins
[06:21] <zen_7777> t/y again, chowlett, i actually do love the gnome desktop...but it is not working for me on 12.10 the way it did with 12.04
[06:21] <crazyhorse> DuyPham: it'll basically give you a complete tree of your disk.. so you can work out where everything is
[06:21] <crazyhorse> DuyPham: just run sudo ncdu / to do the entire comptuer
[06:21] <cfhowlett> zen_7777, alternatives are built in.  xfce4 and lxde are 2 of the best known that you could add
[06:22] <penguinman> << xfce user here
[06:22] <cfhowlett> d3sx, not normal ... WHAT hardware are you installing on, HOW are you installing ... usb, cdrom into wubi (windows installer).  Details matter
[06:23] <kunji> d3sx: That does seem pretty long, I would try again, but first check that the md5 checksum on the iso is correct.
[06:23] <d3sx> intel celeron dual core (new celerons) 8gb ram, 1tb hdd. installing by unetbootin ubuntu security 12.10 on usb
[06:24] <zen_7777> thx so much cfhowlett...going to save this whole chat so i can go over it later on
[06:24] <kunji> d3sx: Oh... unetbootin :P  It messes up fairly often, format the usb and try again.
[06:24] <cfhowlett> zen_7777, glad I could help.
[06:24] <jda2000> I'm a little confused now. I when through the motions of fdisk and mke2fs to create a single 4TB partition on a big drive.  Everything seemed to work.  Only then did I see in the man page that fdisk does not do gpt and you cant go over 2TB without it?
[06:24] <rudivs> I'm trying to get my java configuration working, and I notice that with update-alternatives --config java, some of the options have a 'manual' status and others are 'automatic'. What's the difference?
[06:24] <zen_7777> omg, cfhowlett, YOU HAVE!
[06:24] <cfhowlett> d3sx, reboot the USB and run "check disk for errors.
[06:24] <d3sx> kk
[06:24] <dr_willis> jda2000: use parted or gparted these days
[06:24] <d3sx> ill be back
[06:25] <crazyhorse> what's the best filesystem for good performance in a VM where i'm going to be running a db like postgres (note: has to support ACLs)
[06:25] <jda2000> dr_willis, Yes i'm redoing it all starting with gparted.
[06:26] <penguinman> crazyhorse: i usually just stick with ext4, well tested, stable, etc.
[06:26] <crazyhorse> how do i find out what the current filesystem is?
[06:26] <son_> is there someone here that can help me with my mail server?
[06:26] <crazyhorse> penguinman: awesome ok ;)
[06:26] <dr_willis> not took the plunge and got a 4tb hd yet
[06:26] <kunji> cfhowlett: checking the disk for errors has actually come back good for me, but I would still have the same problem every time at the same spot, until I formatted and started over... not sure why.
[06:26] <Ben64> 3TB seems to be the best price/size
[06:26] <crazyhorse> penguinman: i think ext4 has some extended ACL features as well
[06:26] <son_> I can send emails outside but cannot receive them
[06:26] <zen_7777> rudivis, had quite a bit of trouble installing java on 12.04...then found there was(as with most things) an easy way to do it...now i ave to find it again for 12.10
[06:26] <histo> son_: did you open ports
[06:26] <jda2000> dr_willis, But I'm still confused that I could use fdisk etc. and then mount the partiton and see that it was indeed 4tb.    All this was on 12.04
[06:26] <dr_willis> !java
[06:26] <histo> son_: and did you setup a MDA
[06:26] <DuyPham> @crazyhorse: oh, delete file by this program free the disk space
[06:27] <son_> yeah I did that
[06:27] <cfhowlett> kunji, weird and weirder.  remake the USB in startup disk creator instead of unetbootin???
[06:27] <histo> son_: Which MDA are you using?
[06:27] <crazyhorse> DuyPham: it does not delete anything.. it just tells you where the space is being used
[06:27] <crazyhorse> DuyPham: you then have to go and find the files
[06:27] <kunji> cfhowlett: I made it with unetbootin both times for that one.
[06:27] <crazyhorse> and rm them
[06:27] <DuyPham> but how about the disc space i'd lost because delete files via command line
[06:27] <zen_7777> my gawd, this place is better than a Harvard/Yale class on Ubuntu...really you are all terrific
[06:27] <son_> courier-imap
[06:28] <kunji> cfhowlett: It was a weird error too, wish I could remember it.
[06:28] <son_> I think there something wrong with my MX record
[06:28] <histo> son_: can you connect to the imap port and authenticate?
[06:28] <son_> yes
[06:28] <crazyhorse> DuyPham: the program will tell you where all the disk space is being used
[06:28] <histo> son_: also #ubuntu-server maybe more appropriate
[06:28] <histo> son_: meet me over therre
[06:28] <son_> ok
[06:29] <kunji> Hmm, maybe I should ask some things over there... well, if I run into problems with the solr/lucene/nutch setup
[06:30] <crazyhorse> so anyone know a command to get the current filesystem for a drive?
[06:30] <crazyhorse> sudo dumpe2fs /dev/sda1 << i tried
[06:30] <crazyhorse> but got permission denied
[06:30] <kunji> crazyhorse: sudo parted -l
[06:31] <kunji> crazyhorse: or sudo fdisk -l   but with that not working that well for gpt...
[06:31] <DuyPham> @crazyhorse: sorry about my bad english, but i'm about to tell that I did delete some files before via command line, and didn't get back free disk space, and the Ncdu program don't show that deleted files too
[06:31] <cfhowlett> crazyhorse, http://my.oschina.net/mr6/blog/73233
[06:31] <crazyhorse> Model: VMware Virtual disk (scsi)   1      1049kB  107GB  107GB  primary  xfs          boot   hmmm
[06:31] <kunji> DuyPham: Are you sure they're gone?  Were they symlinks?  Did they have enough size tell?
[06:32] <zen_7777> thanks to all of you who helped! i'm otta here to try all of your suggestions...till next time...stay well and get bent! ;-)
[06:32] <crazyhorse> DuyPham: yeah.. deleting files should just delete the file
[06:32] <crazyhorse> cfhowlett: you in china?
[06:32] <penguinman> crazyhorse: there's always good old df too
[06:32] <cfhowlett> crazyhorse, american in china
[06:32] <crazyhorse> cfhowlett: nice, which province?
[06:33] <cfhowlett> crazyhorse, OT so private convo
[06:33] <viju> hi
[06:34] <viju> I can't create a symlink
[06:34] <viju> all lnks that I created are broken
[06:34] <viju> please help
[06:34] <DuyPham> kunji: i'm sure that there's no link to that file, i deleted it by "rm" command, and that didn't give me back diskspace, totally awefull
[06:35] <Ben64> viju: ln -s <link source> <link>
[06:36] <viju> Ben64: thats what I amdoing
[06:36] <jony> did someone noticed that if a memory stick is used for booting images (ex. made with yumi) it will fail after a short use?
[06:37] <rudivs> the ubuntu help pages are a little vague on the java browser plugin: if I install oracle java 7, will the icedtea plugin "expose" the correct java to the web applet? or do I need to install some oracle java browser plugin as well?
[06:38] <kunji> DuyPham: I didn't ask if there were symlinks to them, I asked if they were symlinks to other files.  Did the files actually have enough size that du would show them.  Were they on the same partition you're checking the size of?  I do not believe that files deleted with rm leave their space, so unless you provide some evidence of that...
[06:39] <kunji> redivs: Offhand, I think it uses whatever one is set by the system as defaults, I think several guides for installing the Oracle Java cover the commands for changed the default java.
[06:39] <kunji> *changing
[06:39] <jony> somebody broke his USB memory stick after using to boot live images?
[06:40] <kunji> jony: umm, who?
[06:40] <dr_willis> the !java factoid tells how to change javas i recall
[06:40] <jony> ex. a live ubuntu cd image used on a memory stick
[06:41] <dr_willis> jony:  you used 'dd' to put the iso on a usb stick?
[06:41] <kunji> jony: oh, not as far as I know, they should more or less be loaded once and run mostly in RAM.  Maybe if you have a very small amount of RAM and get thrashing?
[06:41] <viju> Ben64: i have a folder , say afolder, I want it in /var/www  so I used    " ln -s   ~/workspace/afolder   /var/www "    what
[06:41] <viju> s
[06:41] <viju> sorry
[06:41] <viju> what's wrong with this command?
[06:41] <kunji> jony: Otherwise I would say it's purely coincidence.
[06:41] <dr_willis> viju:  use full paths not  ~   for starters
[06:42] <viju> it always creates broken link
[06:42] <viju> dr_willis: I tried that too
[06:42] <dr_willis> and the websever has a setting to not follow links for security reasons
[06:42] <SanDiegoGuy> evening yall
[06:43] <viju> it's not that I am creating symlink for first time , but when it doesnt , I am confused now
[06:43] <cfhowlett> SanDiegoGuy, greetings
[06:43] <dr_willis> you want 'www' to point to /home/bob/workspace/folder  ?
[06:43] <viju> dr_willis: you are absolutely right , but I already see another symlink in the www folder
[06:44] <dr_willis> or you want   www/somefolder to point there?
[06:44] <SanDiegoGuy> was wondering if anyone can recommend a decent site to use with Transmission
[06:44] <viju> dr_jesus: no . I am modifying afolder , its in my workspace under home, what I want is that a link to be created under www
[06:44] <cfhowlett> SanDiegoGuy, mininova
[06:45] <SanDiegoGuy> ty cfhowlett
[06:45] <kunji> viju: is the link broken, or do you just not have permission to follow it?
[06:45] <dr_willis> viju:  dont you need a www/ for the new link.. or www/afolder
[06:46] <viju> tried both way
[06:46] <dr_willis>   /var/www/afolder
[06:46] <dr_willis> you are using sudo im assuming
[06:46] <viju> /var/www/afolder and just /var/www
[06:46] <dr_willis> is /var on its own partition?
[06:47] <viju> I guess its on different partition
[06:47] <dr_willis> soft links work across filesystems? and hard links dont.. or am i backwards
[06:48] <kunji> dr_willis: didn't we talk about how sudo cd doesn't like to play nice though :P, could that be the issue as well for the symlink?  viju, what error does it give when you try to use the link, or does it fail silently?
[06:48] <dr_willis> no need to sudo cd
[06:48] <Tex_Nick> i download a lot of youTube vids/music ... i use vlc to play most of my multimedia ... sometimes when previewing the first few seconds of multiple files, i notice that i have two or more instances of vlc on my indicator (top panel) and vlc isn't playing anything ... i have to kill those vlc process's
[06:48] <dr_willis> just     cd /var/www
[06:48] <dr_willis> then sudo ln -s /home/foo/bar   bar
[06:48] <dr_willis> i think
[06:48] <dr_willis> ;)
[06:48] <viju> kunji: I see an icon with cross on it and in status bar it's written broken link
[06:49] <DuyPham> kunji: http://i.imgur.com/esFerhJ.png this is the disk space which webmin give me at present, and this is what ncdu give me with command "sudo ncdu /" http://i.imgur.com/0woQvL6.png , I've lost almost 5gb diskspace :(
[06:49] <Tex_Nick> oh & the vlc process's will be using 100% of one or more of my cpu cores
[06:49] <dr_willis> viju:  do a ls -l in the shell and check.. delete bad links befor trying to remake them
[06:49] <viju> dr_willis: ok
[06:50] <Tex_Nick> anyone had that experience ?
[06:51] <D3M0NCR0W> anyone know any good channel for avr freaks ?
[06:51] <D3M0NCR0W> avr bots
[06:51] <D3M0NCR0W> ?
[06:51] <kunji> DuyPham: webmin... why didn't you say so, well, how often does webmin check disk space?  Also, are you absolutely certain it's not being cached?
[06:51] <jony> no, I have plenty of RAM
[06:52] <jony> I use YUMI to put more bootable images on a single USB stick
[06:52] <jony> ex. Ubuntu 12.04, Ubuntu 12.04 server, Hirens Boot CD, Clonezilla
[06:53] <jony> and it's my fourth memory stick in the last 6 months
[06:53] <jony> I purchased different brands and all failed after some time of use
[06:53] <dr_willis> i cant recall a usb going bad on me  ever. ;-)
[06:54] <dr_willis> and i got 12+ of them
[06:54] <DuyPham> kunji: i dont understand, it's just a .mkv file, i leeched it via torrent, then i deleted it but it doesn't free the diskspace
[06:54] <magn3ts> Wow, apt-get has hung my terminal, and does so reliably.
[06:54] <magn3ts> This is unimpressive.
[06:54] <jony> what could be the problem?
[06:54] <dr_willis> ran ubuntu 12.04 on a 32gb usb for like a year.
[06:55] <kunji> DuyPham: I'm saying what Webmin is reporting may not be up to date
[06:56] <dr_willis> just booting iso files dosent write to the stick. so shouldent hurt them at all.
[06:56] <jony> what could cause my memory sticks to fail?
[06:56] <DuyPham> i've just check again, another command :( http://i.imgur.com/xHdUI3V.png
[06:56] <aeon-ltd> jony: age/number of writes
[06:56] <jony> I've used already A-DATA 16GB, Kingston 8 GB,
[06:56] <magn3ts> seriously, what's the deal. the Flashplugin-installer HANGS Zsh/Konsole. Every single time.
[06:56] <dr_willis> ask in #hardware perhaps jony
[06:56] <magn3ts> And then I have to unlock apt/dpkg and generally that means rebooting.
[06:56] <DuyPham> kunji: i've just check again, another command :( http://i.imgur.com/xHdUI3V.png
[06:57] <kunji> jony: What have you tried that makes you think they're failed, do they not show up at all?  Does dmesg show anything when you plug them in?
[06:57] <jony> now my Kingston 16 gb DTR is failing too
[06:57] <dr_willis> magn3ts_:  its downloading a file and the server is down perhaps?
[06:57] <jony> for ex. my Kingston starts to disconnect after accessing it
[06:57] <jony> randomly
[06:58] <jony> but mostly when I access the data on it
[06:58] <dr_willis> sounds more like a bad port. tried it in other pcs jony?
[06:58] <kunji> DuyPham: Hmm, that is interesting, can you track down the usage a little further than / ?
[06:59] <Tex_Nick> jony : are you ejecting the sticks before unplugging them ?
[07:00] <jony> yes, in other pc-s is the same issue
[07:00] <jony> no I give it safe remove first
[07:00] <magn3ts> dr_willis: sorry to spam you, the curse of always seeing your helpful name, but flashplugin-installer is hanging my terminal/shell everytime. I tried bash/zsh, still it just hangs after the "donwload .... .tar.gz" line.
[07:00] <magn3ts> normally I expect the progress bar or whatever, but nope.
[07:00] <DuyPham> kunji: track down to the directory which i downloaded the movie file to, is that what u mean?
[07:00] <kunji> A bad port could break usb sticks, for instance if it's over voltage or something
[07:01] <kunji> DuyPham: Yeah, or to whatever is using that diskspace, we don't know for sure it's the movie
[07:02] <kunji> DuyPham: Hmm, you don't have a GUI on that box do you?  Because if you did, Disk Usage Analyzer is good for this
[07:03] <Ben64> !webmin | DuyPham
[07:03] <magn3ts> also, this is killing me too: http://askubuntu.com/questions/251028/gnome-terminal-hangs-on-start-in-kde
[07:05] <foo357> Hello, I've got a computer running 10.04 LTS and I'm going to install 12.04 on it. I got a few questions about disk partitioning and the installation procedure...
[07:06] <cfhowlett> foo357, ask away ..
[07:06] <xzased_> Hi all, I am preseeding my ubuntu install and set root to be 8GB, however, when I check the output of fdisk -l it shows as expanding through the remainding of the disk
[07:06] <bazhang> foo357, 10.04 to 12.04 is a one-step upgrade, no need to reinstall etc
[07:06] <xzased_> is this normal?
[07:06] <Tex_Nick> jony : usb sticks use what are called edge card connectors ... the connectors are just thin sheets of copper ... after many, many, many insertions & removals the copper can wear away on the motherboard connector ... that can cause problems ... they make what are called port extenders to save the motherboard ports
[07:06] <crazyhorse> when one is install ubuntu.. what is it downloading?
[07:07] <cfhowlett> crazyhorse, package updates ...
[07:07] <bazhang> crazyhorse, wubi or normal
[07:07] <crazyhorse> nromal
[07:07] <kunji> xzased_: Can you pastebin that.  Also is the disk gpt?  If so, then you should probably use parted instead.
[07:07] <bazhang> crazyhorse, whether you tell it to: upgrades etc
[07:07] <crazyhorse> oh.. its spent 30 mins doing it now
[07:08] <crazyhorse> can i skip it?.. got work to do :/
[07:08] <foo357> I've chosen to do a custom paritioning scheme so I'm at the partition step and have laid everything out., there already exists a boot and swap partition, I have split the old Linux partition into two (one partition for / and one for /home). but what is "Device for boot loader installation"?
[07:08] <bazhang> crazyhorse, at this point no
[07:08] <DuyPham> kunji, Ben64: I've just rebooted my system, and then checked disk usage again, it's come back to normal. god bless me! haha http://i.imgur.com/QVx18yr.png
[07:08] <kunji> crazyhorse: Probably shouldn't... interrupting updates is bad T.T
[07:08] <crazyhorse> i'm used to installing vms... click click.. 5 mins
[07:08] <crazyhorse> ssh .. dont
[07:08] <DuyPham> kenji, Ben64: thanks for helping me
[07:08] <cfhowlett> foo357, that's the HDD, probably /dev/sda
[07:08] <crazyhorse> done*
[07:09] <crazyhorse> but it says retrieving file 14/57 .. i'm worried it's going to take forever
[07:09] <kunji> DuyPham: Hmm, well that's good, not sure what was up with that, I wonder if most of the download was in /tmp or something
[07:09] <cfhowlett> crazyhorse, forever? no. here in china with SLOW internet, update during install took about an hour
[07:09] <kunji> crazyhorse: Shouldn't be too much longer I think
[07:10] <crazyhorse> if it's relative.. it'll be another 1hr 40 mins
[07:10] <foo357> cfhowlett: yes, it was set to the disk device (dev/sda) by default should I leave it as that or change it to something else? (there is already a boot partition on the disk)
[07:10] <crazyhorse> so what's the drawback of clicking the big skip button?
[07:10] <kunji> foo357: I would leave it, grub2 should find all the installed OSs
[07:11] <cfhowlett> foo357, I'd put it where-ever it was previously ...
[07:11] <cfhowlett> foo357, have you initiated any of this yet??
[07:11] <magn3ts> If anyone could help with this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/251028/gnome-terminal-hangs-on-start-in-kde/261826#261826
[07:11] <kunji> crazyhorse: Oh, hmm, didn't realize that was there, I believe it stops the download and roles everything back, so that also might take a while at this point.  Other than that, just that your system will be out of date.
[07:11] <foo357> cfhowlett: hm, no. I'm at the partitioning step.
[07:12] <cfhowlett> foo357, option B: one step upgrade from 10.04 THEN move your /home into it's own partition ...
[07:12] <penguinman> magn3ts: i know this may not be what you're after but if you're in kde why not just use konsole?
[07:12] <crazyhorse> kunji: right, thanks
[07:12] <foo357> ok thanks for the help cfhowlett
[07:13] <cfhowlett> foo357, best of luck and enjoy your 12.04 !
[07:13] <magn3ts> penguinman: because apt-get is HANGING inside of Konsole.
[07:13] <magn3ts> brilliantly.
[07:13] <magn3ts> although it appears to be hanging in xterm also
[07:14] <penguinman> magn3ts: wow, that's unusual.
[07:14] <magn3ts> penguinman: tell me about it
[07:14] <penguinman> where's it hanging? or can you pastebin the output?
[07:14] <cousin_luigi> greetings
[07:14] <kunji> magn3ts: I second that, I hear a lot of people having trouble with terminal in KDE, but hmm.. that konsole issue sounds like it needs looking at
[07:14] <xzased_> kunji: here is a screenshot I could take, it is a remote machine I don't have input capability: http://i.imgur.com/hPbGiD6.jpg
[07:14] <cousin_luigi> are there official mirrors of archive.canonical.com ?
[07:15] <magn3ts> kunji: well, Konsole is fine. EVERYTHING is hanging, but gnome-terminal failing to open at all and turning into a zombie is wholesomely unacceptable
[07:15] <yacc_> Any idea what tool is responsible for configuring eth0 in Ubuntu 12.04LTS? I've got a completely fine interfaces file but it stopped working in 12.04LTS, at least during boot, something configures eth0 before even udev manages to rename it to wan, ...
[07:15] <magn3ts> there's really two diff issues at fault here.
[07:15] <xzased_> kunji: Here is what I am using for partman's expert recipe - http://paste.ubuntu.com/5569839/
[07:15] <penguinman> magn3ts: also, which version of kde are you running?
[07:15] <magn3ts> penguinman: the last line I get is: "flashplugin-installer: downloading http://blahblahlbah/adobe-flashplugin_11.2.....tar.gz
[07:15] <magn3ts> 4.10
[07:16] <magn3ts> Are we playing debug on gnome-terminal or flashplugin-installer hanging ? :)
[07:16] <magn3ts> Or both? :P
[07:17] <penguinman> could be the site is down. also, if that's the issue you could drop to a tty and try to update from there.
[07:17] <magn3ts> penguinman: it's not, downloads fine in Chrome.
[07:17] <magn3ts> I tried from xterm, still didn't work, I'm not hopeful it will work in a TTY
[07:17] <penguinman> magn3ts: so it's not kde that's the issue with the flash plugin then.
[07:17] <magn3ts> Ironically, when apt got interrupted and I had to fix with 'dpkg --configure -a' the installer hangs but I can CTRL+C out
[07:18] <magn3ts> penguinman: yeah, sorry, I made it sound like that at first, I thought it was a Konsole or ZSH thing but I've eliminated both as candidates.
[07:18] <penguinman> magn3ts: i would suggest a purge/reinstall of the flash plugin. or have you tried that already?
[07:18] <magn3ts> penguinman: that's how I wound up here.
[07:18] <magn3ts> The update for it stalled, removed it, tried to reinstall and POOOF this magical issue.
[07:19] <penguinman> magn3ts: hmmm. could be the pkg is broken or pointing to a dead link.
[07:19] <penguinman> magn3ts: since all that pkg does is fetch the actual flash from the web
[07:20] <magn3ts> yeah, like I said, downloads fine with wget/chrome/curl
[07:20] <magn3ts> :(
[07:20] <magn3ts> also, that shouldn't block apt from receiving SIGTERM
[07:20] <penguinman> hmm, let me see if i can duplicate that on my laptop under xfce.
[07:21] <penguinman> i don't use flash for anything critical on it, so i don't really care if it breaks
[07:21] <magn3ts> penguinman: Oh, I don't care if it does either TBH. Chrome packages their own anyway.
[07:22] <uw> s
[07:22] <kunji> xzased_: Hmm, I would suspect that the partman command has a mistake, but I'm not familiar with using that, so I'm unfortunately useless in trying to track it down.
[07:24] <DrManhattan> How do I change my default boot device in grub and which version of the nvidia driver is included in nvidia-current?
[07:24] <kunji> !grub | DrManhattan
[07:24] <penguinman> DrManhattan: i believe nvidia-current still has 304
[07:24] <kunji> DrManhattan: Start from the second link
[07:25] <DrManhattan> thank you penguinman and kunji
[07:25] <DrManhattan> penguinman, that is truly disappointing
[07:25] <sphinx__> hi, i want to ask a question
[07:25] <cfhowlett> sphinx__, so ask ... :)
[07:25] <jony> so noone broke his USB stick using to boot live OS or other tools? only me? :(
[07:26] <cfhowlett> jony, it happens
[07:26] <kunji> !ask | sphinx__
[07:26] <penguinman> DrManhattan: the experimental-310 driver works well (what I'm running on my nvidia box)
[07:26] <magn3ts> DrManhattan: use the PPA if you want the newest.
[07:26] <sphinx__> i use biosystem, ubuntu and windows
[07:26] <magn3ts> it works fine.
[07:26] <jony> but 5 pieces in the last 6 months? :(
[07:26] <penguinman> magn3ts: ok, so i can confirm hanging on the flash download.
[07:26] <cfhowlett> jony, on the same machine?  I'd suspect your hardware has issues ...
[07:26] <sphinx__> so how can i share a file between them.
[07:26] <magn3ts> penguinman: ORLY. I'm a bit surprised. Thanks for the confirm. You're on 12.10?
[07:27] <magn3ts> penguinman: I may have omitted the "I'm on 13.04" part :P
[07:27] <penguinman> magn3ts: 12.04 actually
[07:27] <sphinx__> i am on 12.04, too
[07:27] <magn3ts> penguinman: noted, thanks.
[07:27] <kunji> jony: I haven't used the particular tool you did, but I've messed around with quite a few different ones and have never bricked a usb drive.
[07:27] <penguinman> magn3ts: sigh, bug report time I guess
[07:27] <magn3ts> penguinman: I suppose so.
[07:28] <jony> I used these sticks with many computers but usually the same brand and model in a company
[07:28] <kunji> penguinman: I think there's probably one already for this, pile on the evidence though
[07:28] <Tex_Nick> jony : are you using the same type ??? maybe it's the same manufacturer ?
[07:28] <penguinman> magn3ts: i feel sorry for folks doing a fresh install tonight. until this gets worked out anybody who checks that nice little box is going to get a hung install
[07:28] <dr_willis> jony:  depending on how they act. ive restored usb flash via using dd to 'zero' them, then repartition
[07:28] <magn3ts> penguinman: yup.
[07:28] <magn3ts> penguinman: exactly, also, sorry for hanging your apt ;)
[07:29] <penguinman> magn3ts: again, don't care on this machine. :)
[07:29] <Capnpatpat> Could someone help me with a networking/Ethernet problem?
[07:29] <magn3ts> penguinman: heh, I don't care about flash, but I care about apt/dpkg whining about their lock that I'm too stupid to unlock
[07:30] <penguinman> magn3ts: oh it's fixable. just kill apt and purge flashplugin installer.
[07:30] <SilvereX> Yo
[07:31] <magn3ts> penguinman: yeah, but when I killall -9'd apt, it didn't unlock whatever it uses to lock itself
[07:31] <SilvereX> How would I go about updating my graphics card drivers?
[07:31] <Viliny> quick question
[07:31] <Viliny> im trying to make up a filename from two variables in bash
[07:31] <DrManhattan> I hate that the nvidia experimental doesn't have a framebuffer
[07:31] <SilvereX> I try to install it but it tells me to uninstall the old ones. I've purged fglrx but it still tells me to remove the old one
[07:32] <Viliny> $IP_$DATE.jpg <-- how do i make it understand that the IP variable ends before the _ ?
[07:32] <VeryveryNoob> Hello I have a AMD gpu
[07:32] <VeryveryNoob> I want to install official driver
[07:32] <VeryveryNoob> but doesn't work
[07:32] <penguinman> magn3ts: ok, this is interesting, i let it sit for about 10 minutes and it just installed.
[07:32] <magn3ts> penguinman: >_<
[07:33] <penguinman> penguinman: it may just be downloading VERY slowly
[07:33] <magn3ts> penguinman: alright, I'll kill sabnzb for a few minutes and see if it installs.
[07:33] <penguinman> magn3ts: it may have just been a server issue.
[07:34] <penguinman> magn3ts: i imagine with the steam launch the servers are getting hammered pretty hard right now :)
[07:35] <magn3ts> eh, it's been what, nearly a week now since launch
[07:35] <VeryveryNoob> Is it possible to reinstall all default ubuntu packages?
[07:35] <penguinman> magn3ts: and how many tries did it take you to get linux installed the first time :)
[07:35] <magn3ts> penguinman: the *first* time, too long ago to remember ;)
[07:36] <magn3ts> I remember fighting it as a middle schooler with a scsi pcmcia cdrom drive and a text installer and no, it never worked out well :P
[07:36] <Kroach> VeryveryNoob: apt-get install --reinstal ubuntu-desktop
[07:36] <penguinman> magn3ts: hehehe...yeah, i remember doing it back when redhat was just redhat, not RHEL/Fedora
[07:36] <VeryveryNoob> Kroach thank you
[07:36] <magn3ts> VeryveryNoob: spell `reinstall` correctly though of course
[07:37] <penguinman> i think my first actaul serious install was slack back in 2000/1 ish
[07:37] <xzased_> kunji: thanks, apparently this should work but it isn't :P have a good day
[07:37] <cousin_luigi> archive.canonical.com is mortally slow: are there official mirrors?
[07:37] <magn3ts> I've been spending a lot of time in the Steam Linux forums though. UGH to say the least.
[07:37] <VeryveryNoob> very very helpful you guys are
[07:37] <VeryveryNoob> mmmma mmmmaa :* kiss you and hug you
[07:37] <VeryveryNoob> ^^
[07:38] <magn3ts> PDA in #ubuntu :o scandalous.
[07:38] <penguinman> magn3ts: these are people that have never had to install any kind of os at all, let alone a linux one :)
[07:38] <Ben64> try to stay on topic here
[07:39] <penguinman> magn3ts: eh, when i get people who really annoy me i just redirect them to the arch channel on here :)
[07:40] <magn3ts> penguinman: heh, I've got a long list of futile IRC rooms to send people to. I actually had someone once tell me that they'd go to ##C because at least they'd be helpful there. I just laughed.
[07:42] <Tex_Nick> penguinman & magn3ts : if you don't have a solution, would be better to just not respond
[07:44] <DrManhattan> ok , how do I see what items my grub menu has? just update-grub or what?
[07:44] <magn3ts> Tex_Nick: lol, what?
[07:44] <crazyhorse> how does ubuntu perform on macbook-pros?
[07:44] <TakeItEZ> DrManhattan: grep menuent /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[07:44] <crazyhorse> i mean i'm not sure that OSX has anything to offer on top of ubuntu as far as an OS.. but is it compatible enough with the hardware?
[07:44] <magn3ts> Tex_Nick: We're not replying to anyone here, and I can tell you I spent many, many, many hours over the last week giving lots of people lots of answers to their probs
[07:44] <DrManhattan> im going to need to put in a grub-default="XXXX" entry
[07:44] <Tex_Nick> magn3ts:  stay on topic man
[07:45] <penguinman> crazyhorse: no idea. i refuse to give apple a dime on principal
[07:45] <magn3ts> lol
[07:45] <penguinman> crazyhorse: although i know linus himself runs fedora on an air, so i assume it's possible
[07:45] <crazyhorse> penguinman: pity, no-body else makes laptops that even come close to the same quality
[07:45] <magn3ts> crazyhorse: I'm running 13.04 out of the box on a MBA 2012. It worked *perfectly* out of the box.
[07:45] <magn3ts> crazyhorse: but 12.10 on my MBA2012 requires an extra packagae for the fans, otherwise it overheats.
[07:46] <crazyhorse> magn3ts: do you still have OSX installed on there somewhere?
[07:46] <Kroach> crazyhorse: Systen76 makes far better laptops
[07:46] <magn3ts> crazyhorse: I'm using a dual boot, yes.
[07:46] <crazyhorse> magn3ts: what's the smallest amount of HDD space OSX can occupy?
[07:46] <magn3ts> Kroach: oh man, come on, you've clearly never owned both a system76 and an apple laptop to make that statement. There are good alternatives to Apple, but Sys76 simpyl isn't one. They're just rebranded OEM chinese crap anyway
[07:46] <crazyhorse> probably still 15gb
[07:47] <magn3ts> crazyhorse: I really don't know the answer to that one.
[07:47] <magn3ts> I think that sounds about right, I can look if it's important.
[07:47] <crazyhorse> i'm running ubuntu in a VM at the momement
[07:47] <Ben64> !ot
[07:47] <crazyhorse> but after i get some time i might want to switch to dual-boot
[07:48] <magn3ts> crazyhorse: sorry, I have a big ssd, mine is 60GB still. But the used spaec is 14.04GB, but that's with NOTHING else installed.
[07:48] <helmut_> hi
[07:48] <crazyhorse> magn3ts: yeah i got a 256gb SSD and a 318gb HDD
[07:48] <Ben64> magn3ts, crazyhorse: take it to #ubuntu-offtopic or somewhere else
[07:48] <crazyhorse> k
[07:48] <magn3ts> To be fair, he started with a question about whether ubuntu works w/ apple hardware.
[07:49] <crazyhorse> ok.. ubuntu keeps claiming that my password is incorrect
[07:49] <crazyhorse> and only accepts it if i type it really slowley
[07:49] <crazyhorse> could it be some keyboard driver issue?
[07:49] <penguinman> i don't know, once they get better kernel suport the new chromebook looks really nice.
[07:49] <magn3ts> crazyhorse: if you join #ubuntu-offtopic I can help you more with ubuntu+mac if you want.
[07:49] <magn3ts> crazyhorse: are you in a VM :) and you use caps lock for your password, amiright?
[07:49] <crazyhorse> magn3ts: thanks.. but i've got to finish this
[07:50] <Kroach> crazyhorse: there is also a dedicated forum for Apple users on Ubuntu Forums
[07:50] <crazyhorse> Kroach: good to know
[07:51] <histo> penguinman: yuck paying for a browser
[07:51] <histo> !mac | crazyhorse
[07:51] <penguinman> histo: ugh no, i'd strip chrome os off and put xubuntu on it as soon as i got it open :)
[07:52] <histo> crazyhorse: #ubuntu-mactel
[07:52] <magn3ts> histo: lol, it's almost like he implied that he'd be running linux on it anyway...
[07:52] <histo> penguinman: then why pay that much for hardware. There are cheaper version of the same thing availible
[07:52] <magn3ts> penguinman: if you build kernel yourself there's pretty good support now.
[07:52] <magn3ts> histo: with that screen, hahaha
[07:52] <penguinman> histo: yeah, but that screen is gorgeous
[07:53] <magn3ts> People pay $1K alone on that screen in a 27" form.
[07:54] <crazyhorse> is ssh disabled on ubuntu desktop by default?
[07:54] <magn3ts> crazyhorse: the PW thing though, did you see my question? Do you use caps lock with your password? Caps Lock + VMs get really screwy.
[07:54] <penguinman> penguinman: plus i have my desktop set up as a local file server so the hdd space isn't an issue.
[07:54] <crazyhorse> nah.. it's something weird
[07:54] <TakeItEZ> crazyhorse: there is no ssh-server installed by default
[07:54] <magn3ts> crazyhorse: I don't think openssh-server is even installed by default on a desktop machine.
[07:54] <Tex_Nick> !offtopic | penguinman & magn3ts
[07:54] <magn3ts> crazyhorse: okay, just wanted to make sure.
[07:55]  * magn3ts sighes
[07:55] <penguinman> ok ok, fine....fine....
[07:55] <cnblue> Hi, ibus can't switch to any IME i choose in WINE apps , anyone know a fix to that 12.10, wine 1.5?
[07:55] <crazyhorse> so what is ssh server.. apt-get install openssh?
[07:55] <TakeItEZ> !info openssh-server
[07:55] <magn3ts> lol, I just told you ;) openssh-server is the pkg name
[07:55] <crazyhorse> lol. ok thanks
[07:56] <magn3ts> "oh look at me, I have relevant, helpful factoids".
[07:57] <histo> !botsnack
[07:58] <magn3ts> In all seriousness, I should leverage the bot more, I'll go research him/her/it.
[08:00] <histo> !factoids > magn3ts
[08:01] <magn3ts> Yeah, I already made a snarky remark about his info page in #OT
[08:02] <magn3ts> VeryveryNoob: So did you get sqaured away with acquiring the AMD driver?
[08:04] <heraclitis> http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/02/linus-torvalds-i-will-not-change-linux-to-deep-throat-microsoft/
[08:05] <magn3ts> heraclitis: I swear, if I hear one more uninformed
[08:05] <crazyhorse> hmmm
[08:05] <crazyhorse> i'm getting ssh: Could not resolve hostname 10.0.1.142:54211: nodename nor servname provided, or not known
[08:05] <magn3ts>  /r/linux rant about that email thread by people that don't understand, I may burst.
[08:05] <magn3ts> crazyhorse: sounds like a networking issue. Can you ping that address
[08:05] <crazyhorse> yeah i can ping it
[08:05] <TakeItEZ> crazyhorse: ssh -p host, not ssh host:port
[08:05] <TakeItEZ> -p port
[08:06] <magn3ts> Ah. Well, there you go.
[08:06] <heraclitis> magn3ts, help me to understand, then
[08:06] <crazyhorse> TakeItEZ: my bad, thanks
[08:06] <magn3ts> heraclitis: The gist of that email thread is NOT that SecureBoot or UEFI is the devil, but rather that MS's signing infrastructure is simply bad for only signing PE executables rather than being able to sign something in a standard format that the kernel already accepts.
[08:08] <magn3ts> heraclitis: and sorry, my original comment wasn't meant as an attack on you, I've just seen that email thread used to fuel a lot of really uninformed rants that make me cry inside
[08:08] <VeryveryNoob> magn3ts no I wanna try to install again
[08:10] <heraclitis> magn3ts, you're right to find that I'm a bit uninformed. Will anything in this article hurt my ability to continue to dual boot?
[08:10] <magn3ts> heraclitis: are you on a UEFI system? If you're already dual booting you should be more than fine.
[08:11] <magn3ts> VeryveryNoob: okay, well, assuming normal circumstances you ought to be able to get the AMD driver though jockey which will automatically ask you to install it.
[08:11] <magn3ts> Was that not the case?
[08:11] <beezy> https://gist.github.com/slugonamission/5034551/raw/0705f8b4ac2b920149936b4f77c7c845a5a24294/Archer-top
[08:11] <beezy> patch your top now
[08:11] <heraclitis> magn3ts, I don't believe I am. And yes, I'm already dual-booting.
[08:11] <beezy> it will add the status line "99 problems 0 bitches"
[08:11] <jony> my USB stick won't mount in Ubuntu 12.04, why?
[08:12] <magn3ts> heraclitis: you're more than fine then.
[08:12] <VeryveryNoob> magn3ts thank you I will
[08:12] <beezy> inspired by the recent archer episode where the mainframe goes into kernel panic
[08:12] <magn3ts> VeryveryNoob: for sure, come back to IRC when you're done reinstalling if it doesn't prompt you or you need more help.
[08:12] <disharmonic> morning
[08:12] <heraclitis> magn3ts, thanks man
[08:12] <beezy> jony try #ubuntu people are lazy here
[08:13] <magn3ts> beezy: wait, I missed that?! in a season 4 ep?
[08:13] <magn3ts> heraclitis: always happy to spread info to people interested in knowing more :) not that I know that much more, I just know to read through the FUD sometimes :P
[08:14] <beezy> magn3ts: episode 4 season 6
[08:14] <dward> magn3ts http://i.imgur.com/E6tNmZd.jpg
[08:15] <one> So when using the shared to other computers option what is activated as a dhcp server behind the scenes I am considering using it to connect my virtual machines?
[08:15] <dward> magn3ts and their awesome top readout http://i.imgur.com/7IKfQT3.jpg
[08:15] <disharmonic> with the latest kernel update the kernel fails to configure post install with this error msg http://paste.ubuntu.com/5569928/ any ideas?
[08:15] <magn3ts> dward: I literally have that exact frame frozen in VLC right now. In fact, I'm embarrased to say I'd done it before. I missed the s/problems/b***s/ part though.
[08:16] <VeryveryNoob> magn3ts just done to install ubuntu-desktop
[08:16] <dward> magn3ts so funny. ya haha i love it. someone wrote a ptatch for top. every line in that frame is hilarious
[08:16] <VeryveryNoob> magn3ts and there is login window and I couldn't log in using my root user
[08:16] <magn3ts> VeryveryNoob: I mean, what makes you think you need to reinstall? I know my first times around I broek a lot to get things working, but...
[08:16] <magn3ts> VeryveryNoob: "Root" you can't login as "root" in ubuntu.
[08:17] <VeryveryNoob> sorry my English
[08:17] <jony> my USB stick won't mount in Ubuntu 12.04, why?
[08:17] <VeryveryNoob> I mean root privilidged user
[08:17] <magn3ts> VeryveryNoob: oh, it's okay, I couldn't tell until you just said something. I understand. :)
[08:17] <magn3ts> VeryveryNoob: I assume "check you type your password correctly" isn't the issue?
[08:17] <VeryveryNoob> that;s not the issue
[08:18] <VeryveryNoob> guest session is working good
[08:18] <magn3ts> Weird, that seems like it would be very hard to break. A reinstall might be the best course of action for you in this case.
[08:18] <VeryveryNoob> is there any method to reconfigure my root privilidged user?
[08:18] <dward> jony, why do you think that? is it a boot usb drive or is ubuntu already installed?
[08:18] <dward> jony ubuntu server or desktop?
[08:19] <magn3ts> VeryveryNoob: uhm, I mean, if you can login you can change that user's password.
[08:19] <magn3ts> VeryveryNoob: not sure what you mean by "reconfigure" though.
[08:20] <VeryveryNoob> magn3ts I'm thinking that my password is correct and there is something wrong with my user configurations
[08:20] <VeryveryNoob> and  I'm looking for the way to reset to the default one which is status later first ubuntu installation
[08:22] <magn3ts> VeryveryNoob: hm, not really sure. If it takes your password but fails to load your desktop...
[08:22] <VeryveryNoob> yes
[08:22] <magn3ts> VeryveryNoob: you can try switching to a TTY and checking the contents of ~/.Xsession-errors
[08:22] <VeryveryNoob> ok I try
[08:22] <magn3ts> Ok, I've recently had issues with something similar and the answer was there.
[08:23] <VeryveryNoob> magn3ts when I switching to TTY and there is needs to plug a monitor cable to another socket
[08:23] <VeryveryNoob> magn3ts is it fine?
[08:24] <heraclitis> magn3ts, how would I tell if my machine was uefi, firstly? And when I upgrade, should I stay away from uefi?
[08:24] <VeryveryNoob> it's like switching between GPU on the north bridge and GPU of moderboard.
[08:25] <magn3ts> heraclitis: I have an EFI machine but SecureBoot was disabled by default. Avoiding EFI is basically futile. Every single new machine has UEF basically.
[08:26] <magn3ts> heraclitis: the way that Ubuntu and the other major distributions work, Linux will even work with Secure Boot.
[08:26] <magn3ts> heraclitis: and even if they didn't, Microsoft REQUIRES that SecureBoot be disable-able and that you can enroll your own keys, so it's really a moot issue.
[08:26] <magn3ts> except Samsung, because they screwed up with their EFI, but it's a problem in Windows too, just completely their screw up
[08:27] <disharmonic> with the latest kernel update the kernel fails to configure post install with this error msg http://paste.ubuntu.com/5569928/ any ideas? Broken update maybe?
[08:27] <magn3ts> VeryveryNoob: I don't follow, sorry.
[08:27] <magn3ts> VeryveryNoob: Can you say that again?
[08:27] <VeryveryNoob> magn3ts ok thank you, when I switching to TTY1
[08:28] <crazyhorse> hmm
[08:28] <VeryveryNoob> magn3ts there is need to plug my monitor cable to the moderboard from GPU
[08:28] <crazyhorse> any idea how to run ssh-copy-id -p $PORT $USER@$IPADDRESS
[08:28] <VeryveryNoob> magn3ts is it fine?
[08:28] <heraclitis> magn3ts, I'll be sure to find you if I ever have a problem. I'm still using xp and 7 on my desktop and laptop, respectively.
[08:28] <crazyhorse> if i put in quotes it doesn't do the variable substitution
[08:28] <crazyhorse> ohhhh double quotes :D
[08:30] <VeryveryNoob> magn3ts now TTY1 has following error : [drm:__gen6_gt_force_wake_get] *ERROR* Force wake wait timed out
[08:30] <TakeItEZ> crazyhorse: ssh-copy-id "-p portno user@host"
[08:31] <crazyhorse> TakeItEZ:.. this worked ssh-copy-id "$USER@$IPADDRESS -p $PORT"
[08:31] <dward> hearclitis a quick way to tell if you have uefi system is if you have an extra partition thats very small. most mondern bios, designed to run with windows 8 or mac are uefi compliant. some earlier ones are also compliant.
[08:31] <dward> hearclitis, to know for sure, mount that partiton and look for a .efi file
[08:32] <heraclitis> ahh, my laptop did have that, but I got rid of it.
[08:32] <crazyhorse> what's a nice way of echoing multilines into a file ?
[08:32] <magn3ts> heraclitis: heh, I'm not always great about being IRC but I'd be happy to help if I am.
[08:33] <magn3ts> VeryveryNoob: o_0
[08:33] <dward> heraclitis, then it's probably compatible but it's not necessary to use uefi. Linus freaking hates it.
[08:33] <magn3ts> VeryveryNoob: I'm not really sure. :S
[08:33] <crazyhorse> for example Host $COMPUTER\nHostName $IPADDRESS\nPort $PORT | sudo tee ~/.ssh/config
[08:33] <magn3ts> dward: see, that's what I was talking about. that email thread absolutely in no way shape or form says "linux hates uefi"
[08:33] <magn3ts> I'm sure he would laugh at you saying that.
[08:33] <dward> heraclitis http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/02/linus-torvalds-i-will-not-change-linux-to-deep-throat-microsoft/
[08:33] <dward> linux hates it
[08:33] <dward> linus
[08:33] <magn3ts> dward: he literally just posted that
[08:33] <dward> i mean
[08:33] <magn3ts> dward: and no, he doesn't
[08:33] <dna_> Hello. I'm not able to connect to IRC thru xIRC in my laptop...
[08:33] <dward> not linux
[08:33] <FloodBot1> dward: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:34] <VeryveryNoob> magn3ts it's ok thanks for your effort to help
[08:34] <crazyhorse> that was idiotic that comment from linus
[08:34] <magn3ts> dward: see ALL of the converation that I've been having with heraclitis
[08:34] <dward> i'm sorry i didn't see that
[08:34] <VeryveryNoob> magn3ts open source is kinda cool
[08:34] <heraclitis> lol
[08:34] <dward> okay i apoligize! someones been on hacker news
[08:34] <crazyhorse> users don't care about who signs the bloody certificates... just make it work
[08:34] <magn3ts> VeryveryNoob: :) I enjoy the community aspect as well. Sorry if my sentences were hard to read. I try to make them easy to understand. I know a bit of German and I appreciate short sentences :)
[08:35] <magn3ts> dward: heh, I've been watching people angrily screaming about UEFI for nearly two years now, I understand how it goes.
[08:35] <magn3ts> dward: sadly, even on HN there is a lot of mis or half-information about UEFI and Secure Boot.
[08:35] <crazyhorse> magn3ts: i've been watching people scream about TPM for 6yrs
[08:35] <magn3ts> It's hard for people to understand that Secure Boot and UEFI are sorta two different issues.
[08:35] <VeryveryNoob> magn3ts your sentence very cool by the way I'm learning English by talking to you :)
[08:35] <magn3ts> crazyhorse: haha, I can see that.
[08:36] <magn3ts> VeryveryNoob: :) great, someday I'll pick up Spanish again and I'll find you :)
[08:36] <ncmxcxx> how would I go about using two internet connections on the same computer?
[08:36] <crazyhorse> ncmxcxx: ohhh sounds hard
[08:36] <crazyhorse> ncmxcxx: you want one app to use both net connections?
[08:37] <dward> magn3ts, truth. the bash a lot of things that i love.
[08:37] <ncmxcxx> no different apps
[08:37] <ncmxcxx> like bitorrent one browser one
[08:37] <dward> magn3ts like all these stupid arguments about btrfs vs zfs
[08:37] <magn3ts> dward: well, btrfs of course.
[08:38] <magn3ts> dward: :)
[08:38] <disharmonic> guys the latest generic kernel for 12.10 might be broken, be carefull when updating
[08:39] <dward> magn3ts that's what i'm talking about! everyone is saying that zfs kills btrfs, but the thing is it's years older. btrfs is a better project, better design, better licencse. it's just not stable yet.
[08:39] <MatthewL> Thanks to dward for the full heads up
[08:39] <magn3ts> dward: heh, I'm running a RAID10 array on a 12TB BTRFS setup. It's plenty stable for me ;)
[08:39] <disharmonic> oh and btw btrfs has nothing on ZFS. at least not yet
[08:39] <magn3ts> disharmonic: o_0
[08:39] <magn3ts> haha, we
[08:39] <magn3ts> 're falling into the vim/emacs trap
[08:39] <Tex_Nick> disharmonic:  update about 10 hours ago works fine here ... can you please be more specific ?
[08:40] <magn3ts> Yes, a generic breaking kernel update is a "big deal TM"
[08:40] <disharmonic> Tex_Nick: with the latest kernel update the kernel fails to configure post install with this error msg http://paste.ubuntu.com/5569928/ any ideas? Broken update maybe?
[08:41] <disharmonic> Tex_Nick: linux-image-extra fails to configure
[08:41] <magn3ts> Hm, and apport is whining. God I hate apport
[08:42] <magn3ts> What "config" does -extra-generic need? o_0 that's kinda weird.
[08:42] <dward> magn3ts, ya i have btrfs on raid setup with 4 ssds and i top out on 3.0GB/s io on random reads and 4.0GB/s io on sequential writes. it's mindblowing
[08:42] <krnl386> Failed to process /etc/kernel/postinst.d at /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-image-extra-3.5.0-25-generic.postinst line 1010. <--- So what is line 1010?
[08:42] <magn3ts> disharmonic: was this a normal "apt-get update/upgrade" ?
[08:43] <disharmonic> magn3ts: dist-upgrade
[08:43] <magn3ts> disharmonic: were you "doing" a dist-upgrade or were you just being thorough with apt :)
[08:43] <disharmonic> krnl386: line 1010 is this "system ("run-parts --verbose --exit-on-error --arg=$version " ."
[08:43] <magn3ts> dward: yeah, obviously with my drives I'm on spinny drives but I see a nice speedup as well.
[08:43] <disharmonic> the later
[08:44] <dward> mang3ts no doubt. but it's designed for commodity hardware so you are doing it right.
[08:44] <krnl386> weird… can you paste the whole file into paste bin?
[08:44] <timClicks> slightly odd question perhaps, but my wireless is regularly dropping out
[08:44] <krnl386> i mean the system() call is missing the right bracket
[08:44] <timClicks> I do a hard reset and everything appears fine
[08:45] <magn3ts> dward: yeah, and it's honestly just 3TB of movies and tvshows so it's not like it's anything terribly important anyway. If the array fails, I have a few months of maxxing out my internet connection.
[08:45] <timClicks> does anyone have any suggestions on what to do to diagnose the problem?
[08:45] <krnl386> it's either a typo in the script or line wrapping artefacts...
[08:45] <magn3ts> timClicks: what hardware?
[08:45] <magn3ts> krnl386: yeah, I assumed a copy/paste or line wrapping issue
[08:46] <disharmonic> krnl386: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5569967/
[08:46] <timClicks> magn3ts: Intel Corporation Centrino Ultimate-N 6300
[08:47] <timClicks> magn3ts: searching for that chip, it looks like I'm not the only one with the problem.. I'll have a read through the forums
[08:47] <magn3ts> timClicks: hm, I'm not sure in this case.
[08:48] <krnl386> disharmonic, try sudo apt-get purge linux-image-extra-3.5.0-25-generic and then retry dist-upgrade
[08:49] <Tex_Nick> disharmonic:  have you looked at this ... http://askubuntu.com/questions/261650/dependency-problems-while-updating-ubuntu-12-10?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=dependency-problems-while-updating-ubuntu-12-10
[08:50] <krnl386> heh that's what I thought… as awesome as apt/dpkg is, sometimes it does stupid things
[08:50] <defekt> !botsnack
[08:51] <magn3ts> I figured it was a maligned update seeing as it was upgrading the -extra package and not the rest.
[08:51] <dward> magn3ts, if setup 2x reduncay with btrfs on top of the 2x reduncdancy from your RAID10, your io would be fast as hell. you have close to enough space if with on 3TB of data on a 12TB system
[08:52] <dward> sorry about the spelling
[08:52] <magn3ts> dward: oh no, I'm using the RAID implementation IN btrfs. not on top of.
[08:52] <dward> okay okay
[08:52] <magn3ts> dward: the fact that BTRFS supports RAID at the FS level is the whole reason I picked it :)
[08:52] <magn3ts> also, after the next 72 hours, it might finally be significantly over 3TB. Usenet + an unsaturated pipe = lots of space.
[08:53] <disharmonic> krnl386 , Tex_Nick: purging it worked. thx
[08:53] <krnl386> you're welcome disharmonic
[08:53] <Tex_Nick> disharmonic:  ^5 man ;-)
[08:53] <dward> magn3ts well if you can configure 4x redundancy that would be awesome for io speeds. i know it's possible but i don't exacty know how
[08:54] <defekt> !urandom
[08:54] <magn3ts> dward: heh, well, until I start my full time job, 4x is over my price budget. But fortunately with BTRFS you can change to 4x redundancy and rebalance your array on the fly live :)
[08:56] <shvchk> What is the best way to set a separate DNS server for local domains (like server.example.local)? I.e. I'm using Google DNS as my primary DNS server, but want Ubuntu to use another DNS (say, 10.0.0.1) if primary DNS can't resolve the name (which is what happens with local names).
[08:56] <dward> magn3ts not enough space for 4x? you can configure by subvolume as well.
[08:57] <magn3ts> dward: eh, all the data is equally important and frankly none of it qualifies for that yet.
[08:58] <magn3ts> although, with some excess income and a bigger chasis, I'd probably spring for it.
[08:58] <magn3ts> Being without all of my "media" for a week during rebuild would be frustrating.
[08:58] <krnl386> shvchk, you can set up your local DNS server as a recursive resolver and authoritative master for .local. That way your local DNS will be able to resolve both your .local name and actual real Internet names. A simpler option would be to put all the .local names into your /etc/hosts files
[08:59] <magn3ts> um.
[08:59] <magn3ts> with NetworkManager, it should try against local domains first
[08:59] <crazyhorse> can you use heredoc to assign text to a variable?
[08:59] <magn3ts> you can instruct it on the domains to search even, IIRC.
[08:59] <magn3ts> crazyhorse: what language, but almost surely assuming it was designed sanely.
[08:59] <crazyhorse> magn3ts: ubuntu command line (i'm guessing bash)
[09:00] <magn3ts> crazyhorse: well, I said "sane". I hate bash/shell scripting
[09:00] <crazyhorse> i tried BLA=<<
[09:00] <crazyhorse> BLA=<<DELIM
[09:00] <crazyhorse> but it din't seem to save it
[09:00] <magn3ts> crazyhorse: but yeah, in dash/bash, I won't answer that, I refuse. Good luck Googling it.
[09:00] <magn3ts> crazyhorse: or try #bash, etc.
[09:00] <crazyhorse> k
[09:01] <magn3ts> crazyhorse: I'd try it but I've had too much too much of my potion.
[09:01] <Joshua_mg> hi all. I'm running Ubuntu with xfce4 (memory issues) and I'm having probles with black text over black background in some apps
[09:01] <magn3ts> Joshua_mg: screenshot?
[09:01] <magn3ts> Joshua_mg: also, any commonality between the apps?
[09:02] <Joshua_mg> magn3ts, not all aps, but I faced it on Nautilus and Glade
[09:04] <crazyhorse> i cheated .. i just ran echo "Host     $COMPUTER"	| tee -a ~/.ssh/config	  with 5 different commands
[09:05] <magn3ts> wat
[09:05] <magn3ts> "5 different commands" what does that mean?
[09:05] <crazyhorse> i just ran the same command 5 times
[09:05] <magn3ts> Also, I hate to be "that guy" but what is the latest for screen recording in ubuntu?
[09:05] <crazyhorse> echo "HostName $IPADDRESS"	| tee -a ~/.ssh/config	 etc
[09:05] <Joshua_mg> magn3ts, http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/713/screenshotfrom201302271.png/
[09:05] <magn3ts> Eventually, weston will come along and replace this
[09:05] <magn3ts> crazyhorse: er,... that just echod the same line into the same file 5 times
[09:05] <magn3ts> ....
[09:06] <magn3ts> Joshua_mg: uhm, can I get a bit more than that. No idea what I'm looking at. What app? Did you run it with "sudo", etC?
[09:06] <crazyhorse> mildly different commands rather than using heardoc to work out how to pipe a multiline string
[09:07] <Joshua_mg> magn3ts, what does sudo has to do with this?
[09:07] <shvchk> krnl386, thanks, I thought about it too. Still, I think installing bind is overkill, could that be done with something lightweight like dnsmasq?
[09:07] <TakeItEZ> crazyhorse: VAR=$(cat <<EOF   foo foo\n foo\nEOF)            insert newlines yourself
[09:07] <magn3ts> Joshua_mg: using "sudo" can affect the appearance of GTK apps.
[09:08] <crazyhorse> TakeItEZ: does it have to be on one line? or multiple lines is ok?
[09:08] <TakeItEZ> crazyhorse: multiline, i just don't want to spam here :)
[09:08] <Fuzzles> why when i run 12.10 and 13.03 in vm its so slow?
[09:08] <crazyhorse> haha ok.. awesome trick thanks
[09:08] <shvchk> krnl386, seems like dnsmasq will do...
[09:09] <histo> Fuzzles: 3d is needed for desktop that's why
[09:09] <Fuzzles> histo, how do i do that?
[09:09] <histo> Fuzzles: run a different DE or installing guest additions may help
[09:10] <Fuzzles> histo,  ok ill try that
[09:11] <histo> Fuzzles: it will be much faster on bare metal
[09:14] <magn3ts> Joshua_mg: ?
[09:14] <magn3ts> crazyhorse: do you get what he means when he says "insert newlines"
[09:14] <crazyhorse> yep
[09:15] <magn3ts> Not to presume you don't, just want ot make sure
[09:15] <crazyhorse> he means press enter :D
[09:15] <magn3ts> "Unity sucks lol"
[09:15] <magn3ts> is what he meant.
[09:15] <magn3ts> Fuzzles: something in particular slow, or "everything" ?
[09:16] <magn3ts> crazyhorse: well, it means everywhere it says "\n" there is suppposed to be an "enter". Again, sorry if I'm just obtuse and you already get this.
[09:17] <crazyhorse> magn3ts: not obtuse.. obvious :)
[09:17] <magn3ts> crazyhorse: well not everyone knwos that '\n' means
[09:17] <magn3ts> I wish I could assume that...
[09:18] <crazyhorse> oh i've been doing software for almost 20 years now so
[09:18] <magn3ts> well, then you probably think I'm an idiot
[09:18] <magn3ts> haha
[09:18] <crazyhorse> very familiar.. not that length of time equates to skill .. i've met 17yr olds who are better than 45yr olds
[09:18] <magn3ts> I know I would, and I haven't been doing software quite that long ;)
[09:19] <magn3ts> heh, yeah. either way, IRC is frustrating in that regard. Based on the intonation of "OK" one could make wide presumpitons.
[09:19] <deo> hi guys.. need some help
[09:19] <magn3ts> "OK" means, "Oh, duh, I got it now" or it could mean "Yeah, I just typed the lettters 'el' and 'es' in a terminal"
[09:19] <crazyhorse> IRC is an amazing tool
[09:19] <deo> i got a   ubuntu 12.04
[09:19] <Ben64> !details | deo
[09:19] <crazyhorse> some of the knowledge on here is amazing
[09:19] <deo> after updating. 
[09:19] <deo> launcher does not show up :(
[09:20] <histo> !enter | deo
[09:20] <magn3ts> deo: are you posting the   ? what does " " mean?
[09:20] <deo> but i can login to the machine.. i can see the desktop
[09:20] <deo> the icons on the desktop
[09:20] <histo> ffs
[09:20] <magn3ts> deo: you login, you see the icons on the desktop, or not ?
[09:20] <deo> oppss sorry guys
[09:20] <magn3ts> it's okay, just slow down, we're listening.
[09:20] <deo> i see icons and some files on the destkop magn3ts
[09:20] <magn3ts> But no top or left bars?
[09:21] <deo> yes magn3ts no top and left bars :(
[09:21] <magn3ts> deo: can you interact with the icons you can see?
[09:21] <histo> !resolution | deo
[09:21] <magn3ts> o_0
[09:21] <magn3ts> rly
[09:21] <Ben64> try logging out, and then log back in with "Ubuntu 2D"
[09:21] <magn3ts> ...if you're on the right version
[09:21]  * magn3ts ducks
[09:22] <kel39_> anyone recommend lecture note taking apps?
[09:22] <belgianguy> hello, where can I set the local domain for a host?
[09:22] <belgianguy> I've seen localdomain in /etc/hosts, but is that sufficient, and is that a "reserved" name?
[09:23] <belgianguy> or could I use home.lan or something?
[09:23] <histo> !hostname | belgianguy
[09:23] <basil_kurian_> how to exclude a particular file only from htpasswd authentication ?
[09:23] <basil_kurian_> for loadbalancer health checking
[09:23] <histo> !samba | belgianguy if you are trying to integrate with windows.
[09:24] <Tex_Nick> kel39:  libreOfficeImpress ?
[09:24] <deo> magn3ts: yes i can open those icons and files
[09:24] <thresh> hey. how do I remove window title bar for a specific window in unity on 12.10 ?
[09:24] <belgianguy> histo: I'm trying to make this Ubuntu pc "see" a CentOS mail server in the local network
[09:24] <magn3ts> NOTE, other things will break when you change your hostname belgianguy histo
[09:24] <histo> belgianguy: add the centos hostname and ip in your /etc/hosts file
[09:25] <histo> magn3ts: not if you change it properly
[09:25] <magn3ts> it sounds silly, but even tonight when trying to guide a PARENT though things, rebooting was certainly necessary to ensure things worked post change.
[09:25] <deo> magn3ts: i also rebooted the machine..
[09:25] <magn3ts> histo: I changed it exactly as that factoid suggestiosn and system-config-samba crashed reliably.
[09:25] <belgianguy> histo: ah, I've already done that, but I'm "practicing" with a VPS, too
[09:25] <magn3ts> histo: I replicated it on two different machines with 12.10 and 13.04.
[09:25] <belgianguy> so I'd like to get the hang of A and MX records, I guess
[09:26] <magn3ts> belgianguy: records and DNS are their own fun ;)
[09:26] <Ben64> those don't relate to the computer's hostname
[09:26]  * magn3ts nods
[09:26] <belgianguy> Ben64: I asked about domain name though
[09:26] <Ben64> you keep using that word, i do not think it means what you think it means
[09:26] <magn3ts> belgianguy: that implies name server or dns records, both of which aren't related to your local machine
[09:26] <histo> belgianguy: Now that's different than hostname
[09:26] <magn3ts> unless you're running a DNS server which seems highly unlikely.
[09:27] <magn3ts> belgianguy: this is one of those cases where explaining your problem at a higher level might be very helpful.
[09:28] <basil_kurian_> how to exclude a particular file only from apache htpasswd authentication ?
[09:28] <belgianguy> me at 192.168.0.100, mail server at 192.168.2.102, want to set up bind on the former so I could point Thunderbird to the latter so I could see it in action
[09:28] <magn3ts> basil_kurian_: sounds like a question for #httpd
[09:28] <belgianguy> mail server at 192.168.0.102*
[09:29] <magn3ts> wat
[09:29] <magn3ts> You want to receive mail from .102?
[09:29] <Ben64> uh, you don't need bind to set a mail server in thunderbird
[09:29] <belgianguy> on a local machine, no, I don't, but on my VPS, I will
[09:29] <belgianguy> right?
[09:29] <Ben64> no...
[09:30] <histo> belgianguy: No i think you are confused on what bind does
[09:30]  * magn3ts isn't sure what we're using "bind" to mean in this case.
[09:30] <histo> belgianguy: Are you planning on hosting your own dns servers on your VPS in addition to mail?
[09:30] <magn3ts> if you don't know, the answer is probably "no".
[09:30] <belgianguy> histo: no, there the "regular" DNS will be used
[09:30] <Ben64> then what are you trying to accomplish?
[09:30]  * magn3ts nods
[09:30] <belgianguy> but I have never used A or MX records, and wish to "play around" before I deploy to my VPS
[09:31] <Ben64> argh
[09:31] <magn3ts> lol, if you want, it might be "OT" and thus #ubuntu-offtopic or you can P<M me
[09:31] <TakeItEZ> belgianguy: just point thundebrird to the ip/hostname of your mailserver. the MX-record is needed if other mailserver want to send mails to you, not clients
[09:31] <Ben64> step one - buy a domain name. step two - log into the site you bought it at (the registrar) and mess with DNS records there
[09:31] <basil_kurian_> magn3ts:  ok, let me try
[09:32] <belgianguy> Ben64: lovely advice, but the current one points to a live site
[09:32] <belgianguy> and I'm working on its replacement
[09:32] <belgianguy> so that's a no go
[09:33] <Ben64> well you can't mess with records to a domain that isn't real
[09:33] <magn3ts> belgianguy: what are you trying to do. for ex/ in that case, the "site" records and "mail" records are actually pretty independent...
[09:33] <magn3ts> It's hard. I think a lot of people lack a real understanding of the DNS/NS/resolution layers to be able to grok these issues.
[09:33] <belgianguy> magn3ts: I know, I just want to see the mechanism in action, both the web server and mail server run on that machine
[09:34] <belgianguy> and atm the web site resolves just fine with the /etc/hosts entry
[09:34] <Ben64> well this clearly isn't an ubuntu issue. go read up on dns
[09:34] <cnblue> Hi, ibus can't switch to any IME i choose in WINE apps , anyone know a fix to that ?
[09:34] <histo> belgianguy: You use the regular dns provided by your domain name sales and point A records at your VPS's IPs and Cnames at Domain names.  MX record will be a Fully qualified domain name.
[09:34] <belgianguy> Ben64: I came in here asking where my local domain was stored
[09:35] <magn3ts> belgianguy: what does "local domain" mean, sorry?
[09:35] <histo> belgianguy: basically you will be creating two A records with your DNS provider one for @  pointed at your VPS IP and one for mail pointed at your VPS IP. Then create an mx record of mail.domainname.com
[09:35] <Ben64> and now you're pretty much asking how DNS works
[09:35]  * magn3ts is in a good mood and happy to amuse
[09:36] <Tex_Nick> belgianguy:  also keep in mind that a packet sniffer would allow you to view the "mechanism in action" as you put it ;-)
[09:36] <belgianguy> Tex_Nick: I have Wireshark, that's pretty much the idea :)
[09:37] <belgianguy> but anyway, I'll bugger off before I upset someone, thanks for the information
[09:37] <Tex_Nick> belgianguy:  yep wireshark is great !!! ;=)
[09:38] <magn3ts> belgianguy: like I said, hit me up in #ubuntu-offtopic or PM me if you need more help.
[09:38] <magn3ts> belgianguy: also, I see your name open here, if you did msg me, try again, kconvseration might be screwing up
[09:38] <Anirban> Hello , I am new to Ubuntu ...I need some help !!!
[09:38] <magn3ts> !ask | Anirban
[09:38] <belgianguy> magn3ts: ah, okay, I'll read up some first, but I didn't message afaik :)
[09:39] <magn3ts> belgianguy: okay, I'm a Konversation noob, so I probably did it, never mind :)
[09:39] <magn3ts> Anirban: that was meant to be a nice way of saying "What's up? How can I help?"
[09:39] <Logicwax> is there an easy way to get palimpsest back in 12.10?
[09:40] <crazyhorse> how do ou get the deb command in ubuntu?
[09:40] <crazyhorse> e.g. deb http://apt.postgresql.org/pub/repos/apt/ squeeze-pgdg main
[09:40] <TakeItEZ> crazyhorse: that is a line for sources.list, not a command
[09:41] <crazyhorse> TakeItEZ: got it
[09:41] <baumy> how do i get the artwiz fonts package into ubuntu?
[09:41] <TakeItEZ> crazyhorse: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*.list
[09:41] <baumy> 12.04.2 64 bit btw
[09:42] <Guest76869> guys need help, i am unable to use netcat command, i can ping with the other person on the lan, i can even nc myself but for some reason when i execute nc commands on 2 different pcs nothing happens
[09:44] <histo> Guest76869: what commands are you executing
[09:44] <Anirban> I have installed Ubuntu 12.04 LTS 64 bit. Now I want to install Flash player but what file version should I choose...
[09:45] <Guest76869> Anirban: download chrome no need for flash
[09:45] <histo> !find flash | Anirban
[09:45] <Guest76869> histo: "nc -l 1234" and "nc <lanip> 1234"
[09:45] <histo> Anirban: flashplugin-installer
[09:47] <Anirban> But what version to select ...
[09:47] <Guest76869> histo: there?
[09:47] <Anirban> I mean YUM, tar.gz or something else...
[09:48] <Ben64> Anirban: use the software center
[09:49] <TakeItEZ> Anirban: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[09:52] <Anirban> @Ben64 : Did you got my point...?
[09:53] <magn3ts> Anirban: in a terminal: `sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer`
[09:53] <Ben64> Anirban: yes. you're at the web page to download it, and i said use the software center instead
[09:54] <nardev> hello, i hae two monitors, using nvidia proprietary driver, both are set as "Separate X screen". Unfortunately i don't know how to send/move application from one screen to another? Is that possible at all?
[09:54]  * magn3ts forgets that people's first instinct is to google for a download page. I feel so bad for them
[09:54] <magn3ts> nardev: depends, does your card/driver support twinview?
[09:55] <nardev> magn3ts, it supports TwinView but i also want to turn one monitor for 90"
[09:55] <Anirban> Thanks a lot . But Still I would love to know....
[09:57] <magn3ts> nardev: hm, I can do that with mine. :s
[09:57] <magn3ts> Anirban: did you not see my messagE?
[09:57] <magn3ts> Anirban: you shouldn't download it from Adobe's website.
[09:58] <bviktor> zo
[09:58] <Centosio> Bonjour à tous, je souhaiterais savoir comment créer une base de données  à partir d'un système sous android
[09:58] <bviktor> is there a way to remap alt+f4 to something else, like alt+f12?
[09:58] <bviktor> so that not even the more advanced users can close our kiosk app?
[09:59] <magn3ts> lol
[09:59] <magn3ts> there are better ways of making a kiosk
[09:59] <DJones> !fr | Centosio
[09:59] <magn3ts> much more "tamper"-proof no less.
[09:59] <bviktor> you don't even know how we do it
[09:59] <Centosio> hi, i need to create a bdd into linux with android contacts could you helping me ?
[09:59] <magn3ts> bviktor: if you're worried about an alt+f4 keystroke then I know it's inferior, lol.
[09:59] <magn3ts> bviktor: sorry to be frank, but...
[10:00] <bviktor> ok
[10:00] <Tex_Nick> nardev : if you don't get an answer in a bit ... you might watch for dr_willis ... he might be able to help you with that
[10:00] <bviktor> so how you do it
[10:00] <bviktor> without worrying about alt+f4
[10:02] <magn3ts> Use an xsession that launches chrome fullscreen with no window manager
[10:02] <the_eye> upstart question: how do I execute "sudo start <servicename>" on the filesystem level? I.e. does it create a symlink and if yes from where to where? Or, to phrase it yet another way, how do I enable a service if the machine isn't running and I have access to the filesystem?
[10:02] <magn3ts> no WM = no alt+f4, etc
[10:02] <bviktor> but we do need the ability to close it sometimes
[10:02] <magn3ts> chrome has a built in kiosk mode too, that always helps
[10:02] <magn3ts> bviktor: I'd ssh into it and do whatever.
[10:02] <jarco> Hello people, I just want to see if I found a bug in Lubuntu or if the problem is at my end: When i do "sudo restart networking" the networking icon dissapears from the taskbar and all shutdown options (except log off) dissapear from the gui menu.
[10:02] <bviktor> ssh and... set up networkmanager
[10:02] <bviktor> right
[10:02] <magn3ts> Using Chromium as an X session is bare bones. It's fool proof but it's barebones.
[10:02] <magn3ts> bviktor: I don't understand.
[10:03] <magn3ts> bviktor: they're already on the network, presumably...
[10:03] <magn3ts> bviktor: if they're accessing a webpage....
[10:03] <bviktor> yeah, via wifi with mschapv2
[10:03] <magn3ts> so what is the issue with remoting into them to do whatever you need ot do?
[10:03] <bviktor> the thing is, i don't really wanna use networkmanager scripts for that
[10:03] <bviktor> mschapv2 is not exactly as easy as issuing ifup
[10:03] <magn3ts> I don't get what NM has to do with it. You have to get on the network somehow. If you're doing that, use chromium and then ssh into it when you need to do maintenance?
[10:04] <bviktor> yeah, i see that you don't understand but thanks
[10:04] <Anirban> @magn3ts : Where is the terminal !!!!
[10:04] <magn3ts> maybe I don't understand what mschapv2 is then,
[10:04] <bviktor> too bad.
[10:04] <magn3ts> bviktor: sorry man
[10:04] <magn3ts> bviktor: sincerely, my bad.
[10:04] <bviktor> so back to the original question
[10:04] <magn3ts> Anirban: sorry, what? Go to the menu and type "terminal"
[10:04] <bviktor> any way to remap alt+f4 ?
[10:04] <magn3ts> lol
[10:05] <magn3ts> dozens, Google it.
[10:05] <bviktor> instead of telling me to nuke the whole system and replace it with something else
[10:05] <magn3ts> Esp since we still don't know your WM.
[10:05] <bviktor> been there, done that
[10:05] <bviktor> default, unity
[10:05] <magn3ts> bviktor: we have no idea of anything of your setup then
[10:05] <magn3ts> unity for a kiosk?
[10:05] <magn3ts> okay.
[10:05] <bviktor> yes.
[10:05] <magn3ts> but what else?
[10:05] <bviktor> firefox
[10:05] <bviktor> with kiosk addon
[10:05] <magn3ts> Okay, so replace my last set of suggestions with firefox
[10:05] <magn3ts> and voila it's still the right answer
[10:05] <Ben64> yep
[10:06] <tix> mysql 5.6 isn't going to be in 13.04? wtf?
[10:06] <Ben64> tix: dunno, check in #ubuntu+1
[10:06] <bviktor> that'd raise other questions as well
[10:06] <tix> Ben64: what's +1?
[10:06] <tix> ah
[10:06] <tix> nvm
[10:07] <TakeItEZ> bviktor: how is networkmanager related to your kiosk-problem?
[10:08] <bviktor> the point is, i need the gui for management
[10:08] <TakeItEZ> bviktor: why? once configured you can use nmcli
[10:08] <magn3ts> so then have two login sessions
[10:08] <magn3ts> or use a remote X seesion
[10:08] <bviktor> no, every netbook is unique in certain ways
[10:08] <bviktor> it is used for an e-voting system
[10:08] <magn3ts> also, you're going to UI management on each device manually?
[10:08] <bviktor> so after re-imaging we gotta change wifi user id
[10:08] <magn3ts> oh god, I just got shivers down my spine
[10:08]  * magn3ts is groaning hardcore
[10:09] <haqe17> Hi. I want to protect my external usb drive in some way, but without the overhead of complete encryption. Basically I dont want a noob to be able to just plug my disk into his machine and immediately see everything thats on it. Anyone know how this could be acheived?
[10:09] <magn3ts> If you're worrying about changing "wifi user id" and you're using "unity" on a voting machine
[10:09] <magn3ts> I don't even know where to begin.
[10:09] <bviktor> yeah, you don't know
[10:09] <bviktor> just trolling
[10:09] <bviktor> i had a simple question
[10:09] <bviktor> still unanswered
[10:09] <magn3ts> bviktor: dude, you're so clueless it hurts
[10:10] <bviktor> magn3ts, and you're added to ignore list
[10:10] <magn3ts> and I say that with the hope of seriously helping you out either way
[10:10] <magn3ts> bviktor: other people will agree with me, whatever man.
[10:10] <bviktor> someone else able to tell me how to remap the alt+f4 keyboard shortcut to something else?
[10:10] <Ben64> it's not that easy
[10:10] <bviktor> the so unignorant magn3ts said it is
[10:10] <magn3ts> Seriously, you're a jackass for not listening to wise advice, you're exposing yourself in so many more ways than you even know.
[10:10] <Anirban> Where is the damn menu....
[10:10] <Ben64> no, he didn't
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 dozens, Google it.
[10:11] <magn3ts> that was in reference to the fact that "disabling alt+f4" is different in every window manager
[10:11] <magn3ts> and I hoped you had enough of a clue to not use "unity" for a kiosk environment
[10:12] <magn3ts_> since you've ignored me, that was in reference to the fact that "disabling alt+f4" is different in every window manager. and I hoped you had enough of a clue to not use "unity" for a kiosk environment.
[10:12] <Tex_Nick> haqe17:  some form of encryption would be about all ... with most present day box's the overhead/speed would be a small issue
[10:13] <lhk> hi
[10:13] <haqe17> Tex_Nick: really? i dunno im actually gonna do a test right now using encfs
[10:15] <lhk> i was really impressed by the demonstration of ubuntu for tablets. it would be great to see a new entry in the mobile market. something that's not governed by an industry giant. but there's another system that targets basically the exact same niche. what about tizen ? after the presentation of ubunu on tablets, i read up on tizen. its developed by a consortium of big companies such as google and samsung. at that point i thought i almost
[10:15] <lhk> meego was a failure and bada is horrible
[10:16] <TakeItEZ> !ot | lhk
[10:16] <lhk> but tizen has the approval of the linux foundation
[10:16] <lhk> TakeItEz, im not finished. this will get to ubuntu
[10:16] <vlt> Hello. What is the default RSS reader with notification on Ubuntu 12.04?
[10:16] <nearst> hi ppl
[10:17] <haqe17> Tex_Nick: well there is significant overhead using encfs, its takes about 9x longer to cp the same data to the encrypted disk
[10:17] <lhk> so, how is tizen seen from an ubuntu perspective ? there are many distros for the desktop market but tablets and phones are very closed ecosystems. im finding it hard to imagine a coexistance
[10:18] <TakeItEZ> lhk:  #ubuntu-tablet or #ubuntu-offtopic please, this is (technical) support
[10:18] <magn3ts> TakeItEZ: bring to #ubuntu-offtopic it would be fun to discuss
[10:18] <ejv> lhk: tizen has a support/discussion channe: #tizen
[10:18] <magn3ts> TakeItEZ: er, sorry, jeez
[10:18] <lhk> TakeIEz: oh, then you're right. this is off topic
[10:18] <magn3ts> lhk: bring to #ubuntu-offtopic it would be fun to discuss
[10:18] <lhk> i didn't realize this was technical support
[10:18] <CaBa> hi
[10:19] <ejv> lhk: https://www.tizen.org/community/guidelines/irc-guidelines
[10:19] <TakeItEZ> magn3ts: i'm neither interested in that topic nor in any other offtopic-discussion
[10:19] <CaBa> who is responsible for the partner repository? do the upstream maintainers directly submit their stuff there or is that repo managed by canonical as well?
[10:19] <magn3ts> TakeItEZ: yeah, sorry, I brainfarted the wrong name to autocomplete. also, I'm trying to keep OT in OT sorry~!
[10:19] <Fuzzles> in virtualbox i have windows 7 i try to play my driving dvd but says it dont reconise it but it worked before?
[10:20] <magn3ts> CaBa: I'd assume it's mututal, the infrastructure sort of demands it be mututal, you know?
[10:20] <Tex_Nick> haqe17:  yeah that's a signifcant factor ... i really can't offer another solution though ... unless you encrypt the individual files
[10:20] <magn3ts> Fuzzles: do you have VirtualBox configured to use the Host Drive rather than a Virtual ISO
[10:20] <Fuzzles> magn3ts, how do i check?
[10:21] <magn3ts> Fuzzles: in the virtual machine configuration in the Storage tab.
[10:21] <Fuzzles> magn3ts, its defo host
[10:21] <magn3ts> Fuzzles: might want to PM me or go to #virtualbox or #ubuntu-offtopic. Trying to be on, ahem, good behavior.
[10:21] <magn3ts> Fuzzles: Hm, does Windows not see it at all?
[10:23] <ejv> Tex_Nick: take what haqe17 is telling you with a huge grain of salt; the encryption overhead will be a function of *numerous* factors, including: disk speed, CPU type and speed, connection to the host, encryption algorithm type, hash algorithm type, etc; saying something is "9x" longer is a blatant misrepresentation, unsupported by any data. good luck.
[10:24] <marksaitis> I have ubuntu 12.04 lts, and installed samba4 from sources. How do I make my system to see it's libraries? And when I do that, should ldconfig -v show them?
[10:25] <Tex_Nick> ejv : what you're saying has been my experience ... however i'm not sitting in front of his box ;-)
[10:25] <ejv> sorry Tex_Nick the response was mostly meant for haqe17
[10:25] <Ben64> marksaitis: we can't support what you install from other places, including source code
[10:25] <CaBa> magn3ts: is there an online package search for the partner repository?
[10:25] <Tex_Nick> ejv : i understand
[10:26] <TakeItEZ> marksaitis: check if the dir containing the libs in /etc/ld.so.conf.d/, and yes, ldconvfig shuould show them
[10:26] <histo> marksaitis: how'd you install it?
[10:27] <marksaitis> TakeItEZ, well thats what I did, it doesn't show in ldconfig -v still :)))
[10:27] <marksaitis> histo, follow official samba4 install docs or openchange install docs if you want openchange+samba4
[10:27] <smx> Hola :D
[10:27] <smx> jejejejeje
[10:27] <magn3ts> CaBa: probably, if you google there a few things that look like they  could work
[10:29] <histo> marksaitis: perhaps you should ask in #samba
[10:29] <marksaitis> maybe, but its a standard linux question I guess
[10:31] <histo> marksaitis: are you experiencing a problem with it?
[10:31] <marksaitis> http://pastebin.com/EM84g5s1 thats what I have in ld.so.conf but my ldconfig -v still does not show any pam_winbind.so libraries whasoever, please help?
[10:31] <histo> marksaitis: I though winbind was provided by a different package
[10:31] <Ben64> marksaitis: yeah you might want to ask #samba or something
[10:35] <marksaitis> histo, its in the source ;]
[10:36] <LinaSovereign> Hey !
[10:36] <histo> !info winbind | marksaitis
[10:37] <histo> marksaitis: did you build it?
[10:37] <marksaitis> sure i did :) the library is in there
[10:38] <marksaitis> I believe I do not understand ldconfig in theory enough, as i believe it does not pickup all the libraries in our told directories, it must have some way of choosing which ones
[10:38] <nearst> sup
[10:38] <yown> With this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/ReleaseNotes/12.10?action=show&redirect=UbuntuGNOME%2FReleaseNotes is it saying there is a classic mode done in 2.x fashion?
[10:40] <marksaitis> histo, yes
[10:40] <histo> marksaitis: yes what?
[10:40] <marksaitis> ignore this one :))))
[10:43] <yown> Anyone?
[10:48] <Tex_Nick> yown:  you might want to restate your question in the form of exactly you want to do ;-)
[10:48] <Touhou11> yown: There's a borked version of the classic mode included in GNOME 3
[10:48] <Touhou11> yown: Better off just using XFCE though imo
[10:49] <thebrasse> so, i'm using qtile on my ubuntu installation. now i want to use another notification implementation than the default one. how do i prevent notify-osd from starting when i login?
[10:52] <yown> Tex_Nick: Touhou11 If I use that gnome remix, will I be able to run it in classic mode, in the style of gnome 2.x?
[10:52] <yown> or anything like that
[10:53] <Touhou11> yown: It includes a traditional GNOME Panel, but I found it buggy. I believe it's being phased out too
[10:54] <histo> !notunity | yown
[10:55] <Tex_Nick> yown:  i'm on 12.10 & using gnome classic de ... it works great for me ... to use the older top & bottom panels
[10:56] <qwebirc84379> the gnome classic came back?
[10:56] <lolcat> How long should I wait for the netinst to dowload file 1 of 12?
[10:56] <lolcat> I have a 10/10mbit connection
[10:56] <lolcat> it has been like half an houre
[10:56] <lolcat> No more disk space is being used
[10:56] <Hz_root> irc. linuxfromscratch. org
[10:57] <yown> Tex_Nick: I thought 12:10 didn't have gnome classic.  So it has that "applications places system" menu? Are you talking about the gnome emergency fall back?
[10:57] <lolcat> Oh, there it got done
[10:57] <one> linux from scratch looks like a good option
[10:58] <Tex_Nick> yown:  sudo apt-get install gnome-panel ... then at reboot on the lightdm login ... click on the ubuntu icon & choose gnome classic
[10:59]  * qwebirc84379 jamp onto another ship...
[11:00] <histo> lolcat: alt+f4 will show the log screen. alt+f1 to get back to installer window
[11:00] <yown> Tex_Nick: And that will be just like gnome 2.x in layout etc?
[11:01] <EvilTownCat> .
[11:01] <Abhijit> hi. anyone knows of a open source accounting software with branches support?
[11:02] <Tex_Nick> yown:  yeah ... you no longer have the unity launcher on the left side ... now have the top panel with the traditional menus & bottom pannel
[11:02] <one> hi niko
[11:03] <yown> Are there an features I might miss out on, or problems I might encounter with using mint instead of ubuntu?
[11:03] <Abhijit> yown, the community.
[11:03] <Touhou11> yown: You won't have an integrated advert experience in the dashboard
[11:04] <niko> hi
[11:05] <Tex_Nick> yown:  there are a few tweaks you need to make to restore things like "right click on desktop to create launcher" etc
[11:06] <Hz_root> can i get a script for increasing and decreasing the brightness of my laptop in ubuntu
[11:07] <yown> Touhou11: What is "integrated advert"?
[11:08] <Tex_Nick> yown:  i think he's refering to the amazon advertising ?
[11:09] <histo> Touhou11: You can remove that.
[11:09] <TakeItEZ> !adlens
[11:09] <Tex_Nick> yown:  in the software center that is ?
[11:09] <yown> Tex_Nick: So not really any drawbacks for going mint? I mean it does have codex, flash etc preinstalled so if I have to do some work right right clicking, rather a wash then
[11:09] <yown> Why would I want advertising on my OS...
[11:10] <histo> yown: to support the people that made it
[11:10] <histo> yown: if not remove it
[11:10] <histo> yown: you can install all the codecs in ubuntu with extras
[11:11] <Tex_Nick> yown:  oh man i might have totally misunderstood your question ... i was refering to 12.10 NOT mint ... i can't provide help with mint
[11:11] <histo> yown: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras && sudo apt-get purge unity-lens-shopping
[11:11] <Hz_root>  can i get a script for increasing and decreasing the brightness of my laptop in ubuntu
[11:11] <jrib> yown: think of it as integrated amazon search; if you don't want to search amazon, then just disable it
[11:12] <yown> So what are the differences between mint and ubuntu that can't be removed with a few quick installs?
[11:14] <yown> Is it mostly just about what DE they support, ubuntu -unity, mint- its own special DE and cinnamon- otherwise pretty much the same?
[11:14] <Touhou11> yown: Yes, mostly. Most of mints packages are from Ubuntu, in the same way that most of Ubuntu's are from Debian
[11:15] <jrib> yown: since mint is based on ubuntu, that's about accurate, yes. Mint has it's own DE with some mint* apps for things like installing and updating I believe.  You might want to ask the mint channel about what they change in ubuntu
[11:15] <yown> Touhou11: Ok, how about the stuff outside of "mostly"?
[11:16] <Touhou11> yown: Different default apps, different custom kernel, no ads, codecs installed by default, different UI. That's all I know of
[11:16] <yown> jrib: Tried that, but my IRC clients are having some kind of problem where they usually can't connect. Chatzilla can't seem to be set to the mint server, and the wbe client I tried last time crawled to a near system lock
[11:17] <yown> plus very few people actually there to answer stuff
[11:17] <jrib> yown: well then, that's another difference (mint isn't supported here)
[11:17] <yown> But it IS ubuntu, so couldn't I ask here about non DE issues?
[11:18] <yown> regarding mint?
[11:18] <Touhou11> No
[11:18] <yown> Touhou11: What does "custom kernel" mean in practical terms?
[11:19] <jrib> yown: you could without telling us and sometimes it may not matter.  But it's better to ask in the mint support forums as they'll be more familiar with the mint changes
[11:20] <DJones> yown: Because the mint developers make various changes to a standard Ubuntu installation, there could be critical changes which Ubuntu users arn't aware of, so potentially youd could get incorrect advise, thats support for mint is best coming from their own IRC channel/forums
[11:20] <mat619> Hi there. I got a small ubuntu 12.04 CLI only system sitting in a corner at home in which I log in via ssh. Every day I'm having issues logging into the box, SSH clients claiming it's not reachable - just like now. I'm not at home, trying to access the box from my BlackBerry, doesn't work.
[11:21] <mat619> The logs (auth, syslog, dmesg) show no signs of lost network connectivity or ssh login attempts. Any idea what could be causing that?
[11:21] <mrksta> sdfsdf
[11:21] <mat619> It works right after boot, but a few hours of unattended idle later, I can't log into it anymore
[11:21] <yown> DJones: Well all indications seem to be that the differences between them are surface, not critical
[11:22] <TakeItEZ> mat619: what error do you get exactly?
[11:22] <pvh_sa> hi
[11:22] <guza> hi everyone :)
[11:22] <pvh_sa> oops, hi there.. is there an app that i can use to quickly look up a contact in my google contacts?
[11:22] <mat619> TakeItEZ: Connection time out from the SSH client. Exact choice of words depends on the client (windows / osx / blackberry)
[11:22] <guza> can some one help me with preseed ?
[11:23] <guza> well just one options does not work @ me, that option is late command
[11:23] <yown> So what does a different custom kernel mean in practical terms? How does that play out in ways that a user would see? Or in other words, what does different custom kernel mean, in non-tech terms.
[11:23] <pvh_sa> possibly this is two questions: 1) an app to quickly look up a contact in an address book (maybe integrated into synapse) and 2) a way to synchronise an address book with google contacts
[11:23] <TakeItEZ> mat619: can you ping your home-server in that situation?
[11:24] <mrksta> in my ubuntu terminal, i cant see my username@hostname, why? all i can see is $
[11:24] <mat619> TakeItEZ: Sometimes I can, sometimes I can't. seems pretty random
[11:24] <TakeItEZ> mrksta: "/bin/bash"
[11:24] <guza> maksta /bin/bash
[11:25] <mat619> TakeItEZ: I guess the wireless lan adapter might be causing the issue. I'm using the very same adapter regulary on another 12.04 machine without the slightest problem though
[11:26] <guza> TakeItEz: is this line in preseed correct "d-i late_command string string cp /cdrom/preseed/test.sh /target/root/; chroot /target chmod +x /root/test.sh; chroot /target bash /root/test.sh"
[11:27] <mrksta> in ubuntu terminal when i press the up key i dont get my previous command enter ?
[11:27] <TakeItEZ> mrksta: "echo $SHELL" says what?
[11:28] <pvh_sa> btw. is synapse still the recommended "semantic launcher" or is there some other project to replace it?
[11:28] <nearst> whats up
[11:28] <guza> TakeItEz: is this line in preseed correct "d-i late_command string string cp /cdrom/preseed/test.sh /target/root/; chroot /target chmod +x /root/test.sh; chroot /target bash /root/test.sh"
[11:29] <guza> does anyone use ubuntu preseed?
[11:30] <mat619> TakeItEZ: I guess the wireless lan adapter might be causing the issue. I'm using the very same adapter regulary on another 12.04 machine without the slightest problem though
[11:31] <yown> So what does a different custom kernel mean in practical terms? How does that play out in ways that a user would see? Or in other words, what does different custom kernel mean, in non-tech terms. Touhou11
[11:32] <Touhou11> yown: Most users won't notice a thing, just means it will be compiled with a particular configuration and set of modules
[11:33] <beezy> all right everyone, i have a question. I was really stupid and accidently rm -r my /lib64 directory and everything is wack now. all of my kernels on boot panic. what is my best option here?
[11:34] <yown> Touhou11: Would you please say that again in a less technical form?
[11:35] <jonjo> i love ubuntu
[11:35] <nearst> beezy, reinstall or repair on live cd with chroot
[11:36] <crazyhorse> what's ubuntus visual cpu/memory monitoring program called?
[11:37] <crazyhorse> system monitor
[11:37] <crazyhorse> bam
[11:38] <suporte> hellow
[11:38] <beezy> nearst thanks, that's what i thought. wish i could just copy over the so's or recover the directory though.
[11:38] <Tex_Nick> yown:  as i recall mint was originally intended for the htpc (home theater PC) audience ... if your mani intent is NOT a htpc, then ubuntu 12.04 might be your best platform for stability & support ;-)
[11:39] <nearst> beezy, try with livecd, chroot mode and install linux-image-generic
[11:39] <yown> Tex_Nick: I prefer knowing the pros and cons directly and deciding for myself, rather then going by a use category.
[11:40] <Tex_Nick> yown:  ahh good position to take ;-)
[11:40] <jonjo> i love ubuntu alot
[11:40] <guza> i hate ubuntu :)
[11:41] <guza> for me best ubuntu is 10.10 after that is crap :D
[11:41] <jpds> guza: OK dude, noone's forcing you to use it.
[11:41] <guza> i use gentoo :)
[11:42] <yown> Well if someone would please explain "compiled with a particular configuration and set of modules"
[11:42] <guza> ubuntu have preseed and that is great :)
[11:42] <Tex_Nick> yown:  this has some good info ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Linux_distributions
[11:42] <guza> only that :)
[11:42] <yown> And what is preseed?
[11:43] <guza> its automatic installation of ubuntu cd
[11:43] <nearst> yown, preseed use for autoconfiguration/installation
[11:43] <guza> good stuff :D
[11:44] <yown> Tex_Nick: I strongly disagree on that link having good indo
[11:44] <beezy> nearst thanks, that sounds like a better option. download is taking long and i only have a gentoo livecd handy.
[11:44] <histo> beezy: chose a different mirror
[11:44] <Tex_Nick> yown:  ok man ... i'll back out :)
[11:44] <pvh_sa> how do I add Google as a contact source for Gnome Contacts? I'm on 12.10 here, but all that I'm offered is "local address book" as a source...
[11:44] <guza> gentoo is daddy :)
[11:44] <yown> nearst: So ubuntu has preseed and mint does not? Which means it is harder to install stuff in mint?
[11:45] <jonjo> guza ubuntu is prefect for peole who dont understand linux
[11:45] <nearst> beezy, http://www.upubuntu.com/2012/11/how-to-repair-your-system-after.html .
[11:45] <guza> i have 30TB partition on gentoo with xfs FS
[11:45] <guza> it take 0.2s to find that partition
[11:45] <nearst> yown, im not sure about mint. afaik. they have preseed in their iso too
[11:45] <guza> i think find command :)
[11:46] <guza> i take 0.2s to find all files on that :)
[11:46] <histo> guza: then join #gentoo
[11:46] <histo> and praise it there
[11:46] <Logicwax> man this 12.10 upgrade has been a disaster.   everything is broken
[11:46] <guza> u dont want to share linux experience ? :D
[11:47] <histo> Logicwax: Can you elaborate?
[11:47] <histo> !ot | guza
[11:47] <Logicwax> is there an easy way to get palimpsest back in 12.10?
[11:47] <histo> Logicwax: Can you explain what palimpsest is?
[11:48] <guza> ubottu, i was just help ubuntu user to resolve his problem
[11:48] <guza> jaj :D
[11:48] <Logicwax> histo: the disk manager thats been in ubuntu for so long
[11:48] <Logicwax> now its crap
[11:48] <Logicwax> i want it back, as it let me manage my md arrays graphically and even showed progress bars for rebuilding, and lots of other great features
[11:48] <yown> For some reason my IRC clients aren't connecting to the serves, but web clients and chatzilla do connect, I thought this was fixed yesterday (or was it the day before) but I was mistaken. For some reason when I connect to IRC via chatzilla and/or web browser client, that sometimes frees up the regular clients (xchat, smuxi) to connect. But I am not sure on exact timing
[11:48] <jonjo> guza: why xfs?
[11:49] <guza> i have partition larger that 16 TB
[11:49] <yown> Can anyone help me figure out what is going wrong here? No firewall installed or anything
[11:49] <histo> Logicwax: What is the name of the package?
[11:49] <guza> then*
[11:49] <Logicwax> gnome-disk-tools
[11:49] <Logicwax> i believe
[11:49] <histo> !info gnome-disk-tools
[11:49] <histo> !info gnome-disk-tools precise
[11:49] <Logicwax> histo: http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/i386/gnome-disk-utility/filelist
[11:50] <Logicwax> !info gnome-disk-utility
[11:50] <suporte> :D
[11:50] <guza> i have p128 raid controller with mds600 and that system runs 35 disks of 2TB
[11:50] <jonjo> do power cuts not worry you guza ?
[11:50] <histo> Logicwax: sudo apt-get install gnome-disk-utility
[11:50] <Logicwax> histo: yes....thats the new one
[11:50] <Logicwax> the new horrid version
[11:50] <guza> i have raid 60 with 1 spare and good ups
[11:50] <Logicwax> they changed the name
[11:50] <histo> Logicwax: then build the old one for sorce
[11:50] <histo> Logicwax: or see if it's dependancies will work with the libraries
[11:51] <Logicwax> that might be over my head
[11:51] <Logicwax> unless its the usual make;make install
[11:51] <histo> Logicwax: remove the new one. Download the old .deb and dpkg -i name-of-deb
[11:51]  * fizzR ** SysInfo ** Client: HexChat 2.9.4 (x86) ** OS: Microsoft Windows 8 Pro ** CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2500K CPU @ 3.30GHz (3.00 GHz) ** RAM: 16367 MB Total (14069 MB Free) ** VGA: AMD Radeon HD 6800 Series ** Uptime: 2.89 Hours **
[11:51] <histo> Logicwax: if it errors remove it.
[11:52] <Logicwax> yeah i tried it
[11:52] <Logicwax> it bitched about a ton of packages being too new
[11:52] <yown> For some reason my IRC clients aren't connecting to the serves, but web clients and chatzilla do connect, I thought this was fixed yesterday (or was it the day before) but I was mistaken. For some reason when I connect to IRC via chatzilla and/or web browser client, that sometimes frees up the regular clients (xchat, smuxi) to connect. But I am not sure on exact timing
[11:52] <Logicwax> i cant believe they stripped all its features out
[11:52] <Logicwax> now ubuntu no longer has a good disk manager gui
[11:52] <histo> Logicwax: the only other option is to try and build from source. Although I fear you will have similiar issues.
[11:53] <guza> u have fdisk
[11:53] <histo> Logicwax: I'm sure there are plenty of other disk managures
[11:53] <guza> and parted
[11:53] <Logicwax> does parted handle md?
[11:53] <guza> yes
[11:53] <histo> Logicwax: gparted
[11:53] <guza> for md
[11:53] <guza> use mdadm
[11:53] <TakeItEZ> fdisk should be avoided in times gpt-drives become more popular
[11:53] <jonjo> i love mac
[11:54] <histo> How often does someone really rebuild raid to complain about something like that
[11:54] <Logicwax> guza: yes, im talking about gui
[11:54] <tuxinator> on 12.04 is there a convienent way of displaying current boot order of processes? i have a issue when i use multipathing+iscsi i get the message on boot that my partition on multipathd cannot be mounted, if i skip and the system boots i can however mount it, also if i want to reboot the system it does never proceed as it seems to wait for something (i think the same order issue perhaps not...
[11:54] <tuxinator> ...umounting this time)
[11:54] <Logicwax> histo: palimpsest  provided a really great way to manage pretty much everything related to disk.  including md raids
[11:54] <histo> Logicwax: open the software center and search for disk manager. Complain to the gnome people
[11:54] <Logicwax> gparted doesnt even let me do any of those things
[11:55] <histo> Logicwax: How often did you need to manage that? you can't deal with a different tool to set up a raid?
[11:55] <histo> jesus
[11:55] <Logicwax> no...i said MANAGE
[11:55] <Logicwax> not setup
[11:57] <deo> hi guys. .need some help with my ubuntu 12.04.. after some reboot no launcher found :(
[11:57] <nearst> try parted ? fdisk ?
[11:57] <deo> i already tried to reset unity but no luck,, any help please?
[11:57] <yown> For some reason my IRC clients aren't connecting to the serves, but web clients and chatzilla do connect, I thought this was fixed yesterday (or was it the day before) but I was mistaken. For some reason when I connect to IRC via chatzilla and/or web browser client, that sometimes frees up the regular clients (xchat, smuxi) to connect. But I am not sure on exact timing
[11:57] <guza> for raid is best to use mdadm, u will learn to use for 1 hour
[11:57] <nearst> yown, ive no problwm with xchat or irssi
[11:58] <Logicwax> thats besides the point.   ubuntu just lost its catch-all-be-all disk manager
[11:58] <deo> tried to follow instructions here > http://askubuntu.com/questions/17381/unity-doesnt-load-no-launcher-no-dash-appears
[11:58] <Logicwax> you could monitor USB drives, manage LVM volumes, and md raids, all in a really slick itnerface
[11:58] <yown> nearst: I never said you did, I am having trouble with them, something is messed up with my ubuntu install, and I would appreciate some help fixing it
[11:59] <deo> but everytime i  install something it would not continue :(
[11:59] <deo> it says /var/cache/apt/archives/python-glance...... Permission denied
[11:59] <nearst> yown, networking? gui ? look for CPU %%
[11:59] <deo> how can i get back my launcher :(
[12:00] <nearst> deo, always start with sudo
[12:00] <kiarespond> Question, so when I had windows on my machine the wlan0 was a lot faster than now on Ubuntu. How can I increase that back up?
[12:00] <nearst> kiarespond, define a lot faster ?
[12:00] <bviktor> is it possible to disable networkmanager popups when a preferred wifi network gets out of range (or when incorrect cretendials are provided)?
[12:00] <deo> yes nearst  i am root when i execute the command
[12:01] <yown> nearst: I am the only user connected directly with DSL. This is gnome classic mode DE, if that is what you mean when you ask GUI, not sure why that is relevant. And what does CPU usage have to do with it?
[12:02] <nearst> yown, tbh. sometime ive problem with network-manager. im use wicd instead :(
[12:02] <kiarespond> nearst, I have GKrellM and it bounces from 300 to 2.5K, windows im not sure. but i downloaded and uploaded a lot faster then...
[12:02] <TakeItEZ> yown: to what ip does "host towel.blinkenlights.nl" resolve?
[12:03] <yown> TakeItEZ: You mean trying to connect through xchat to that? Or using that a s a terminal command?
[12:03] <TakeItEZ> yown: that is a terminal command
[12:04] <guza> i have trouble with late_command in preseed, does someone have experience with preseed ?
[12:04] <sruli> hi everyone
[12:04] <nearst> hi sruli
[12:04] <sruli> can anyone help with removing touchscreen drivers from ubuntu 12.10?
[12:04] <yown> TakeItEZ: 94.142.241.111 Warning: Message parser reports malformed message packet. towel.blinkenlights.nl has IPv6 address 2a02:898:17:8000::42
[12:05] <nearst> kiarespond, try change dns. maybe help a lot
[12:05] <sruli> i have terrible problems with touchscreen on many PC's calibrating does not help, i just want to remove it completely
[12:05] <TakeItEZ> yown: can you "telnet chat.freenode.net 6667"? does it connect?
[12:06] <kiarespond> nearst, what would you recommend for the dns?
[12:06] <nearst> google dns. 8.8.8.8,8.8.4.4 and opendns. work fine with me
[12:08] <yown> TakeItEZ: It isn't connecting
[12:08] <bviktor> apparently not. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/824998 it sucks :\
[12:08] <t-mart_> sruli: start by looking through lspci output for the touchscreen
[12:08] <fhloves> 123
[12:08] <TakeItEZ> yown: hangs at "trying ..." ?
[12:09] <yown> TakeItEZ: Yes "Trying 42.3.2.128..."
[12:09] <nydel> i'm having trouble with an upgrade, it's update-initramfs that hangs when i try to run "dpkg --configure -a" as instructed by apt-get synaptic update manager etc. -- i've had this issue for a few months now & am afraid to reboot, please, if anyone can help..
[12:09] <TakeItEZ> yown: echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" |sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf                     then pls try again
[12:10] <sruli> t-mart_: lspci has nothing from the touchscreen
[12:10] <yown> takeecho "nameserver 8.8.8.8" |sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf  then that earlier command again?
[12:10] <TakeItEZ> yown: then telnet... again, yes
[12:11] <Touhou11> I'd advise against using 8.8.8.8. it's a DNS server run by Google
[12:11] <sruli> t-mart_: i see the touchscreen in xinput and lsusb but not lspci
[12:11] <TakeItEZ> touchscreen are input-devices, lsusb maybe has some info
[12:11] <yown> TakeItEZ: It went to a noncommand prompt >
[12:12] <sruli> from lsusb "Bus 001 Device 004: ID 0408:3001 Quanta Computer, Inc. Optical Touch Screen"
[12:12] <TakeItEZ> Touhou11: ok for test-purposes, else i agree
[12:12] <TakeItEZ> yown: ctrl-] quit
[12:12] <yown> TakeItEZ: BTW, last time I tried to get help on this, I think I did something similar, chaning that files listed IP address
[12:13] <yown> TakeItEZ: You mean ctrl c? ctrl ] doesn't do anything
[12:13] <sruli> T-mart_: TakeItEZ: from lsusb "Bus 001 Device 004: ID 0408:3001 Quanta Computer, Inc. Optical Touch Screen"
[12:13] <TakeItEZ> yown: to exit telnet
[12:14] <TakeItEZ> yown: if you already are at "telnet>" enter "quit" to exit telnet
[12:15] <yown> TakeItEZ: I don't understand. I never got anything like "telnet"
[12:15] <t-mart_> sruli: so, what i'd do is unload the kernel module for that device. googling said it's something like hid_quanta. see if lsmod shows you as having that module loaded
[12:15] <TakeItEZ> yown: what "noncommand >" prompt did you get then? and when?
[12:15] <guza> alt+f2 :)
[12:15] <THE_DUDEZ0R> Hi, according to this thread on mouse polling rate, all I have to do in order to set my mouse to 500 hz is to issue the following command and replugging my mouse "sudo modprobe -r usbhid && sudo modprobe usbhid mousepoll=2"
[12:16] <THE_DUDEZ0R> but after doing that in two different ways (also adding it to modprobe.conf and /etc/modules, I can't get the 500 hz, I ran that little app evhz.c and it displays 125 hz
[12:16] <Fuzzles> how come when i install ubuntu 12.10 or 13.04 test it runs so slow in a vm?
[12:16] <THE_DUDEZ0R> any help on this
[12:17] <yown> TakeItEZ: it was just a >, there was no characters to the left or right of the >
[12:17] <sruli> t-mart_: from lsmod "usbhid                 46987  1 hid_multitouch
[12:17] <sruli> hid                   100411  3 hid_multitouch,hid_generic,usbhid
[12:17] <sruli> "
[12:17] <sruli> t-mart_: how do i unload a kernel?
[12:18] <billfeld> I did a dist-upgrade to get rid of some packages "holding back". During the install dovecot-core failed to install: http://pastebin.com/qSqmPRxD
[12:18] <billfeld> I googled around and found: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=700350, but don't really know what to do with it.
[12:18] <billfeld> Any idea?
[12:18] <t-mart_> sruli: not sure which one of those to go with, but it'd be sudo rmmod <module_name>
[12:18] <DrDoom> Morning folks..
[12:18] <yown> TakeItEZ: This happened after I put nameserver 8.8.8.8" |sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf  like you said
[12:18] <fire> anyone do now good video tutorials about operating system  ?
[12:18] <TakeItEZ> yown: you missed an opening "
[12:18] <fire> know*
[12:18] <sixcorners> I just installed ubuntu 12.10 amd64, and now all I see is error: no such device: then grub rescue>  it should be installed alongside windows 8
[12:18] <TakeItEZ> yown: echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" |sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf
[12:19] <fire> sixcorners: may be your grub has got messed up.
[12:19] <fire> the best thing is to reinstall again as  you have just installed ubuntu.
[12:19] <fire> and check in ubuntu installation that grub is installed successfully
[12:20] <sixcorners> fire: can I expect the same thing to not happen again?
[12:20] <yown> TakeItEZ: You mean ctrl c get back to a normal prompt, then "echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" |sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf"?
[12:20] <sixcorners> is there any helpful information I could gather using this prompt?
[12:20] <fire> sixcorners: while inslled check the installation log about success or failures.
[12:20] <DrDoom> How to mount a partiton from other OS in dual boot?
[12:21] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[12:21] <sixcorners> k, I will try.. thanks
[12:21] <fire> DrDoom: google it
[12:21] <DrDoom> Exist a software for this?
[12:21] <DrDoom> I want
[12:21] <fire> sixcorners: if still doesnt fix the prob
[12:21] <DrDoom> to pass some files
[12:21] <sruli> T-mart_: "ERROR: Module usbhid is in use by hid_multitouch" how do i stop it?
[12:21] <DrDoom> fire: Nice answer
[12:21] <fire> than try sudo apt-get update grub or do os-prober
[12:21] <jrib> fire: please don't tell people to just "google it" in this channel
[12:22] <jrib> DrDoom: what filesystem?
[12:22] <fire> DrDoom: it's a very easy question. you can find this answer easily by googling.
[12:22] <guza> DrDoom: fdisk -l, to see partitions and mount /dev/partition /mount/point
[12:22] <jrib> fire: stop
[12:22] <fire> jrib: ok
[12:22] <fire> jrib: i typed the msg before you post :(
[12:23] <DrDoom> jrib, sda3 to sda1 - same partitikon, two system.
[12:23] <DrDoom> **partition
[12:23] <t-mart_> sruli: try sudo modprobe -r <module_name>, modprobe is like rmmod, but checks dependencies, and hopefully will remove hid_multitouch too
[12:23] <DrDoom> guza: It is very usefull... I will see!
[12:23] <DrDoom> fire:  yes.. stop.
[12:23] <yown> TakeItEZ: You mean ctrl c get back to a normal prompt, then "echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" |sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf"?
[12:23] <jrib> DrDoom: you haven't told me the filesystem.  If it's not something exotic, you should be able to just click on the partition in nautilus (the default file browser)
[12:24] <guza> :)
[12:24] <DrDoom> jrib: I know.. I want to do it from slackware...
[12:24] <jrib> DrDoom: this channel is only for ubuntu support
[12:24] <DrDoom> I am in Kubuntu now..
[12:25] <DrDoom> jrib: I know...
[12:25] <fire> DrDoom: yes i did :P :P just an advice be more self dependent and use the best search engine that we have got. :)
[12:25] <DrDoom> Thank you all...
[12:25] <DrDoom> Very much..
[12:25] <t-mart_> sruli: if that doesn't work, remove the other module first, then try again
[12:25] <jrib> DrDoom: well in kubuntu there's probably something similar to nautilus that allows you to easily mount partitions.  Try #kubuntu if no one here knows.  Or just use the mount command in a terminal (mount /dev/sdaN /mount/point)
[12:26] <guza> jrib: he maybe have IDE hdd :)
[12:26] <TakeItEZ> yown: yes
[12:27] <yown> TakeItEZ:  it printed "nameserver 8.8.8.8" ok now what?
[12:27] <sruli> T_mart_: modprobe -r .. "FATAL: Module usbhid is in use."
[12:28] <TakeItEZ> yown: try xchat to connect to freenode
[12:28] <sruli> T-mart_: just saw ur other message, will try to remove other first
[12:28] <t-mart_> sruli: yea, maybe it doesn't remove like i thought.
[12:28] <sruli> T-mart_: same error for other one
[12:29] <sruli> T-mart_: any other ideas?
[12:29] <yown> TakeItEZ: I connected, but this might be a temporary thing.
[12:29] <t-mart_> sruli: well, we got to see that was using the module from rmmod. try rmmod now on the other module and we'll see what's using _that one_
[12:29] <yown> TakeItEZ: like it was last time
[12:30] <sruli> t-mart_: ERROR: Module hid is in use by hid_multitouch,hid_generic,usbhid
[12:30] <TakeItEZ> yown: "sudo nano /etc/resolvconf/resolvconf.d/base" add "nameserver 8.8.8.8"   or whatever dns-server IP you like
[12:30] <TakeItEZ> yown: write down the steps we did to check/fix and be prepared for the next time.
[12:31] <thebrasse> if i want to run a notification daemon other than notify-osd or notify-daemon, what if your recommended way of making it run instead of one of those?
[12:31] <DrDoom> Greetings again..
[12:31] <guza> hi
[12:31] <guza> :)
[12:32] <DrDoom> guza: fdisk -l did not show me anything about the patition... or filesystem.
[12:32] <yown> TakeItEZ: How do I save it in? BTW that command opened/made a empty file
[12:32] <guza> u must be root to execute this command
[12:32] <ShapeShifter499> if I use tor do I have ddclient (for dyndns.org) update my tor address or public ip?
[12:32] <DrDoom> intrigant....
[12:32] <DrDoom> just a  moment...
[12:33] <t-mart_> sruli: i don't think you want to rmmod just the hid module. try unloading hid_multitouch, usbhid (getting lost on what you've tried and haven't_
[12:34] <DrDoom> guza: worked..
[12:34] <DrDoom> works fine now..
[12:34] <guza> i know
[12:34] <guza> :)
[12:34] <yown> TakeItEZ: How do I save it in? BTW that command opened/made a empty file
[12:34] <TakeItEZ> yown: nano has a help-line at the bottom.
[12:34] <yown> TakeItEZ: That help line doesn't list a save option
[12:35] <t-mart_> sruli: think about it like a tree: at the root, you have a module that's providing functionality for a lot of other modules, and there can be many layers of this. you just want to "prune the leaves" that run your touchscreen. you don't want to take too much down
[12:35] <TakeItEZ> yown: your nano is broken then, file a bugreport
[12:35] <DrDoom> guza: how to mount, for exaple: sd37
[12:36] <guza> sd37?
[12:36] <DrDoom> guza: sd3
[12:36] <guza> hmm
[12:36] <TakeItEZ> yown: ^G for help
[12:36] <guza> mkdir /mnt/sd37
[12:36] <DrDoom> guza: /dev/sda3/
[12:36] <guza> mount /dev/sd37 /mnt/sd37
[12:36] <guza> :)
[12:36] <yown> TakeItEZ: Looking through it, but would you just please tell me the shortcut for saving?
[12:36] <TakeItEZ> ^x yown
[12:37] <jeremija> i think it's ctrl + O
[12:37] <guza> DrDoom: create dir to mount partition "mkdir /mnt/disk" and mount partition to this dir "mount /dev/sda3 /mnt/disk"
[12:37] <TakeItEZ> jeremija: save& quit ^x
[12:37] <TakeItEZ> jeremija: just "save" is ^o, you are right
[12:37] <yown> TakeItEZ: iT SAYS CTRL X is exiting
[12:38] <TakeItEZ> yown: and asks to save the file, yes
[12:38] <DrDoom> guza: It is not sd37... My mistake.. Got it..
[12:38] <DrDoom> guza: Thank you again..
[12:38] <guza> np :)
[12:38] <sruli> t-mart_: i rmmod hid_multitouch and then usbhid after the usbhid keyboard and mouse stopped working.. hard reeboot and touchscreen is working again...
[12:38] <TakeItEZ> yown: did you ever read/try/did something on your own, without help from 3rd people?
[12:38] <t-mart_> sruli: haha, i was just thinking that happened
[12:39] <yown> TakeItEZ: "File Name to Write:" use the default? Of course I have
[12:39] <TakeItEZ> yown: just confirm the name
[12:39] <yown> TakeItEZ: Use default, right?
[12:39] <TakeItEZ> yes
[12:40] <yown> TakeItEZ:  it said "Error writing /etc/resolvconf/resolvconf.d/base: No such file or directory"
[12:40] <t-mart_> sruli: ok, dunno if you saw, but we're trying to remove as few modules as possible. the hid module controlled your touchscreen as well as you mouse and keyboard. that's too much. did the touchscreen stop working after hid_multitouch was taken down?
[12:40] <Jacky77> Hi guys. I'm running ubuntu 12.10 64 bit on a netbook with nvidia optimus. When I boot with my intel graphics card (gma 3150) I get into "low-graphic-mode". How can I prevent that? Thanks
[12:41] <TakeItEZ> yown: sorry my bad, it had to be "/etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base"
[12:42] <sruli> t-mart_: good thing that i am chatting from a remote PC so every reboot does not disconnect us... i just did a modprobe -r hid_multitouch and everything stopped working.. hard reboot again
[12:43] <sruli> t-mart_: do u think rmmod hid_multitouch would have a different effect?
[12:43] <yown> TakeItEZ: That doesn't look any different
[12:43] <TakeItEZ> yown: look again
[12:43] <yown> there I see it
[12:44] <t-mart_> sruli: uhh, don't think so, but im starting to question if we have the right module
[12:44] <t-mart_> sruli: there was nothing that said 'quanta' in lsmod?
[12:45] <t-mart_> lsmod | grep -i quanta
[12:46] <sruli> t-mart_: will check.. but just did rmmod hid_multitouch, keayboard and mouse is working and touchscreen not, will now check for quanta in list and will check if its removed after reboot
[12:46] <yown> TakeItEZ: "Error writing /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base: No such file or directory "
[12:46] <t-mart_> sruli: 99% sure it will be reloaded. you need to blacklist it
[12:47] <sruli> how do i do that?
[12:47] <sruli> t-mart_: how do i blacklist it?
[12:48] <t-mart_> sruli: create a file in /etc/modprobe.d/ that contains the line "blacklist hid_multitouch". file can be called whatever
[12:48] <t-mart_> sruli: like this guy does http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=166624
[12:49] <sruli> t-mart_: lsmod | grep -i quanta
[12:49] <sruli>  returns a empty line.. no output
[12:49] <TakeItEZ> yown: exit nano without saving. then "apt-cache policy resolvconf | grep -i insta" and "lsb_release -sd" what is the output
[12:50] <t-mart_> sruli: ok. well, you're saying hid_multitouch did what you wanted right?
[12:51] <sruli> t-mart_: yes it did, just want to make sure its gone after a reboot, will read link u posted
[12:51] <yown> TakeItEZ: grep: option requires an argument -- 'd' Usage: grep [OPTION]... PATTERN [FILE]... Try `grep --help' for more information.
[12:51] <TakeItEZ> yown: copy & paste, you mistyped it
[12:52] <yown> TakeItEZ: I did copy/paste, maybe you typod?
[12:52] <t-mart_> sruli: ok. in fact, sudo echo "blacklist hid_multitouch" > /etc/modprode.d/nohid_multitouch
[12:53] <TakeItEZ> yown: well, it works here... just the parts between the quotes, not the quotes...
[12:53] <yown> I know that
[12:53] <yown> TakeItEZ: Just fresh copy/pasted and tried again, same result, I didn't use the quote marks
[12:54] <tedr> anyone here that can help me with virtual macjines
[12:55] <TakeItEZ> yown: "lsb_release -sd"
[12:55] <tedr> machines
[12:55] <arungupta2008> Problem with ubuntu
[12:55] <guza> tedr: install virtualbox :)
[12:55] <yown> TakeItEZ: Ubuntu 11.04
[12:55] <arungupta2008> permission denied even i am in root mode in 11.04
[12:55] <arungupta2008> ?
[12:55] <tedr> no im trying to run a virtual box but it keeps giving me a runtime error
[12:56] <sruli> t-mart_: just saw ur last post, have already done it the way described in the link.. will reboot, and see, will let u know in 2 minutes
[12:56] <yown> Though I could have told you that TakeItEZ
[12:56] <k1l_> !eol | yown
[12:56] <tedr> and error R6025
[12:56] <t-mart_> sruli: ok
[12:57] <tedr> my virtual box consist of windows XP pro
[12:57] <jeremija> exit
[12:57] <yown> TakeItEZ: Are you still willing to help me?
[12:57] <TakeItEZ> yown: see ubottu
[12:57] <k1l_> yown: get a supported ubuntu, either through upgrade or with new install
[12:58] <yown> TakeItEZ: Does that mean no?
[12:58] <t-mart_> tedr: so is this an ubuntu issue or a virtual box issue?
[12:58] <yown> TakeItEZ: So you won't help till I update?
[12:58] <tedr> im on ubuntu running a virtual box so i guess a virtual box issue
[12:58] <TakeItEZ> yown: sudo apt-get install resolvconf
[12:58] <Ben64> yown: you're using an outdated version, it stopped being supported in October
[12:59] <tedr> im i in the wrong place
[12:59] <sruli> t-mart_: worked!!! THANKS, now need to go to the office and see if it will be the same on the other models (was scared to go into the office without a solution, they want to kill be for getting rid of windows)
[12:59] <k1l_> yown: dont blame the volunteer helpers that you run an unsupported version :/
[12:59] <TakeItEZ> yown: then again: "sudo nano /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base" add "nameserver 8.8.8.8"   or whatever dns-server IP you like
[12:59] <t-mart_> sruli: cool. good luck
[12:59] <yown> TakeItEZ: I plan to use a new version or something, but I want to figure out some stuff first, and having IRC clients that connected would help
[13:00] <TakeItEZ> yown: thats all you need.
[13:00] <notxubuntu> is there a method by which, or a file to check, on the live cd, todetermine if it is an x64 install?
[13:00] <t-mart_> sruli: although, this likely wont be the last of your problems in an office that expects windows
[13:00] <yown> TakeItEZ: It took this time
[13:00] <sixcorners> fire: reinstalled, same problem (I picked the erase ubuntu and reinstall option)
[13:00] <arungupta2008> Ubuntu 11.04 problem ... permission denied even i am in root ... why
[13:00] <arungupta2008> ?
[13:00] <yown> TakeItEZ: TY, I just hope it worked
[13:00] <Ben64> arungupta2008: 11.04 is no longer supported
[13:00] <k1l_> arungupta2008: you are sure its a 11.04?
[13:01] <TakeItEZ> notxubuntu: ls -ld /lib64
[13:01] <arungupta2008> k1l_ : then i should not use this this is not fair
[13:01] <k1l_> !eol | arungupta2008
[13:01] <notxubuntu> so i take it if that folder exists im good?
[13:02] <TakeItEZ> notxubuntu: that folder only exists on 64bit ubuntus
[13:02] <arungupta2008> k1l_ : is there any solution .... did you get what's the problem is ?
[13:02] <Ben64> notxubuntu: you could also do "uname -m"
[13:02] <k1l_> arungupta2008: you dont get updates (even no critical security updates) so from official side: upgrade to a supported release or make a new install
[13:02] <Ben64> arungupta2008: the solution is that you need to upgrade to get support here
[13:02] <TakeItEZ> Ben64: from a live-cd to check an installation? unlikely
[13:02] <Ben64> TakeItEZ: oh an install
[13:03] <notxubuntu> nono
[13:03] <xorola> notxubuntu type "uname -a" you will get the info
[13:03] <k1l_> arungupta2008: we dont fix problems that dont exist anymore :/
[13:03] <notxubuntu> he had it right TakeItEZ, to check the live cd's status
[13:03] <arungupta2008> thanx
[13:03] <sixcorners> Just did a fresh install of 12.10 amd64. I see "error: no such device: e4ae1f (some GUID)" then "grub rescue>"
[13:03] <TakeItEZ> notxubuntu: my bad, i got you wrong. sry Ben64
[13:03] <notxubuntu> ty everyone, Ben64 xorola
[13:03] <notxubuntu> adios
[13:03] <fire> sixcorners: pm me
[13:04] <Ben64> oh
[13:04] <Ben64> TakeItEZ: could also do "file /usr/bin/dpkg"
[13:04] <sruli> t-mart_: not really.. i changed from windows 14 months ago.. everything was fine... (99% time spent on problems then windows) when i upgraded to 12.10 the touchscreen which never worked before started working and we got the same problem as i have on my home touchscreen which did work in 12.04, the problem is once touchscreen is active the mouse behaves silly in chrome, nautilus and VM and other apps.. its well documented, shame on ubuntu / x
[13:05] <sruli> t-mart_: 99% less time spent then on windows problems :-)
[13:05] <TakeItEZ> Ben64: lots of ways, but unfortunately it wasn't what he wanted to do at all :)
[13:06] <Ben64> TakeItEZ: i wouldn't rely on a directory existing for it, but to each their own
[13:06] <sruli> t-mart_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/1002788 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/1041930 among many other forums... the solutions there do not really disable the touchscreen
[13:08] <sruli> t-mart_: THANKS for ur help, i'll continue to preach linux, goodbye
[13:09] <dinosaurvskitten> how can I turn off the "the login screen is ready" drum sound in 12.10? All the guides I found are for older versions.
[13:10] <dinosaurvskitten> there's nothing relevant in /etc/lighttpd/
[13:10] <dinosaurvskitten> lightdm, rather
[13:11] <dinosaurvskitten> ah, got it. apt-get kill-with-fire gnome-session-canberra
[13:12] <TakeItEZ> dinosaurvskitten: sudo mv /usr/share/sounds/ubuntu/stereo/desktop-login{,-disabled}.ogg
[13:13] <administrator_> hi
[13:13] <administrator_> any one there who is using zimbra with AD authentication
[13:14] <dinosaurvskitten> TakeItEZ: no such file
[13:14] <dinosaurvskitten> and removing that package didn't help after all
[13:14] <rufatgasimov> Hi Friends! Anybody use smuxi for facebook and gtalck?
[13:15] <rufatgasimov> I have authentication failure
[13:15] <rufatgasimov> but configured everything by manual
[13:17] <arungupta2008> i am Ubuntu user ... there is a problem even i am root but when i am running things it's showing "permission denied"
[13:18] <home> hi
[13:18] <Ben64> arungupta2008: you shouldn't be running stuff as root, and 11.04 is still not supported here
[13:18] <dinosaurvskitten> TakeItEZ: got it - system-ready.ogg
[13:18] <home> how can i share large files 50 mb+ on internet securely
[13:18] <dinosaurvskitten> TakeItEZ: such an obnoxious sound, thanks for helping me find it
[13:18] <arungupta2008> home : this is not a hi place :p
[13:19] <k1l_> arungupta2008: you were told that your release of ubuntu is not supported anymore.
[13:19] <home> arungupta2008, how can i share large files 50mb+ on internet securely?
[13:19] <k1l_> home: ssh? ( scp)
[13:21] <home> k1l_, i want to upload a 40 mb file on the net and send the download link to someone else?? like pastebin.
[13:21] <TakeItEZ> home: use one of the hundreds free cloud services, dropbox/ubuntu1/whatever
[13:22] <home> TakeItEZ, but i have to create account and then only i can share?
[13:23] <home> TakeItEZ, and does ubuntu 1 support sharing?
[13:23] <t-mart_> home, don't leave the security to the site: encrypt your file first, and then upload it.
[13:23] <home> t-mart, how?
[13:24] <t-mart_> home: gpg
[13:25] <TakeItEZ> home: yes, yes, and yes
[13:25] <IDrofox> hello, i installed virtualbox 4.2.6 deb in ubuntu 12.10 but it gave me a error "Errors were encountered while processing: virtualbox 4.2" ??
[13:28] <r321> Which graphics drivers work the best in Ubuntu? Amd, nVidia or Intel integrated graphics?
[13:28] <mmc> why  would "sudo apt-get install libssl-dev:i386"   insist on uninstalling "python" (& hence anything depending on that) ?
[13:29] <puznel> r321: that's a hard question. "Works best" depends on purpose/your needs.
[13:29] <r321> i mean for anything other than gaming. i don't play games.
[13:29] <k1l_> r321: over all i think intel is fine. the drivers are in the kernel.
[13:30] <puznel> r321: If you don't play games or use 3d intensive applications, probably both of them work well enough.
[13:30] <r321> so it's not actually necessary to buy a dedicated graphics card if i don't play games?
[13:30] <puznel> r321: And even if you do play games, depending on which games, the open source drivers might be enough.
[13:31] <IDrofox> nevermind i got it fixed by myself :)
[13:31] <TakeItEZ> mmc: libssl-dev:i386 conflicts with libssl-dev, but python depends on that package
[13:31] <r321> i'm thinking of getting Intel i3-3225 which has HD 4000 graphics, would that work well in Ubuntu?
[13:31] <DrDoom> Greetings folks... Again.
[13:32] <tuxinator> multipath-tools and iscsi seem to stop before umount of my iscsi partition, is this a known bug of 12.04?
[13:32] <Oweoqi> how user friendly is debian? as in can I install current software on it?
[13:32] <tuxinator> lets explain like that, when multipath runs and open-iscsi i can reboot my server and shutdown
[13:32] <r321> I looked at free3d.org, but it wasn't listed there, but that page looks a little out of date.
[13:32] <Oweoqi> maybe not the place to ask, but I figured no one would mind
[13:32] <TakeItEZ> Oweoqi: #debian for that
[13:33] <home> TakeItEZ, ok, i use dropbox and i have store important files on dropbox, i want to share just one particular file is it secure i f share the link with some one. i mean he can not possibly hack into the other files?
[13:33] <Oweoqi> someone did lol
[13:33] <kunji> intel graphics are usually pretty pain free in linux, but they're not as capable as other integrated graphics out there (for instance I run a 3 monitor setup with my A10)
[13:33] <tuxinator> if i do mount the partition additionaly to multipath daemon and open-iscsi daemons running i can't reboot and halt
[13:33] <DrDoom> When I close my laptop lid, it do  not return. the screen stay black.. On power, meantime, screen black.
[13:33] <TakeItEZ> home: ask dropbox
[13:33] <DrDoom> I already reinstall my ATI driver.. Do not fix the problem.
[13:34] <DrDoom> **
[13:34] <puznel> r321: it should work. Don't expect great performance, but that may not matter to you if games aren't your thing.
[13:34] <tsotf> .
[13:35] <DrDoom> I am a little bit bored with Kubuntu... I like KDE, but, bored.
[13:35] <home> TakeItEZ, https://www.dropbox.com/help/20/en yes it is possible:)
[13:35] <r321> Well yes, I'm more concerned with compatiblity.
[13:35] <kunji> DrDoom: Seems like your suspend/resume is failing (I don't think it's trying hibernate), I'm not sure why though, it's not necessarily the graphics drivers.  Have you checked your logs to see if there are any hints there?
[13:35] <DrDoom> kunji: No.. i did not.
[13:36] <puznel> r321: FWIW, in my experience the best cards you can buy to get great compatibility and decent performance are old nvidia cards.
[13:36] <DrDoom> I will see right now!
[13:36] <mmc> TakeItEZ: Yes, indeed  I see http://askubuntu.com/questions/252168/can-i-install-libssl-devi386-on-x86-64-system-without-losing-important-packag
[13:36] <puznel> (such as 8600GT, 9600GT etc... supported by the nouveau driver)
[13:37] <kunji> Oweoqi: Current software should pretty much all run on Debian unless you need the bleeding edge for some reason.  I would say Debian is to Ubuntu as Ubuntu is to Mint.
[13:37] <Oweoqi> ah right
[13:37] <r321> puznel: Thanks, but I was acctually thinking with going some sort of integrated graphics, because I don't use many 3D-intensive programs.
[13:37] <DrDoom> kunji: nothing...
[13:38] <r321> And maybe invest more in getting a better CPU.
[13:38] <puznel> r321: I don't either, but I like playing Descent, Quake 1 or emulators from time to time. :)
[13:38] <DrDoom> kunji: my OS isn't configured to sleep or hibernate when closed.
[13:38] <puznel> r321: In any case, you can test your integrated graphics card to see if it's capable enough and decide later.
[13:39] <r321> That's a good idea too, thanks!
[13:39] <kunji> DrDoom: Did you just crash it?  You're checking /var/log/dmesg and /var/log/syslog   ?   Usually suspend is the default, and sometimes setting it otherwise doesn't seem to catch.
[13:40] <kunji> r321: I really like how my A6 and A10 have worked out, the intel stuff should run pretty well as well, I just haven't tried anything intel graphics wise since my 2006 laptop (which it was nice and smooth on).
[13:40] <DrDoom> kunji: Ok..
[13:41] <BluesKaj> hey folks
[13:42] <kunji> Hey, it's BluesKaj, hello hello!
[13:42] <DrDoom> Thank you so muck, kunji.
[13:42] <BluesKaj> hi kunji
[13:42] <DrDoom> bye bye
[13:44] <nilli> I'm on an Ubuntu 8.04.4 LTS server and I've run into issues with ports. My PHP script needs to do a SoapClient() call for an address specifying port 2443, but my server doesn't seem to respond on that port. I used instructions on http://portquiz.positon.org:2443/ and got no response on this Ubuntu server, while doing the same thing on a different server did give me a response..
[13:44] <nilli> so how to I make my Ubuntu server allow this port?
[13:45] <MonkeyDust> nilli  #ubuntu-server
[13:45] <nilli> ah, thanks
[13:45] <kunji> nilli: Umm, I'm pretty 8.04 is dead, not even EOL, I don't think it's supported anymore.
[13:46] <BluesKaj> nilli, you realize your server version is near it's EOL , another month to go
[13:46] <tsotf> nilli | nmap localhost < check tha's port work or not
[13:46] <kunji> BluesKaj: Oh, it's still alive?
[13:46] <nilli> I'll pass that info on to the server host, don't think I can do anything about the version
[13:46] <BluesKaj> 5yrs for servers I believe . kunji
[13:47] <kunji> BluesKaj: I think that started more recently, I think 8.04 was 2 year support, lemme check
[13:47] <BluesKaj> !EOL
[13:47] <nilli> thanks
[13:47] <tsotf> 5yrs :yes:
[13:48] <tsotf> eol 0.0 end of file
[13:48] <nilli> eof
[13:48] <BluesKaj> eol = end of life
[13:49] <tsotf> ups line not file :d
[13:49] <zAo^> what is the proper channel for ubuntu phone os?
[13:50] <ikonia> zAo^: #ubuntu-touch
[13:50] <tsotf> bluekaj :Dwkwkkwkwkwkw
[13:50] <kunji> Well, my mistake, 8.04 is clinging to life by the skin of it's teeth.
[13:50] <k1l_> !phone | zAo^
[13:50] <zAo^> thanks ikonia
[13:50] <tsotf> #ubuntu-arm
[13:50] <zAo^> join #ubuntu-touch
[13:50] <zAo^> lol
[13:50] <deepinskin> 0_0
[13:52] <r321> I have the Amd 7750 graphics card in one of my computers and Ubuntu LiveUSB says its Unknown and the desktop is quite laggy.
[13:52] <tsotf> 0.0 single comment in relationship like
[13:52] <yajnab> Hi
[13:52] <yajnab> I have installed the latest AMD 13.2 beta 6 driverrs
[13:52] <yajnab> but after that i cant see the panels
[13:52] <yajnab> and the taskba in Ubuntu 12.10
[13:53] <yajnab> please help
[13:53] <tsotf> r321 :D same but i'm on netbook
[13:53] <r321> I don't know if I can install drivers without restarting the system, because I didn't create the persistence file.
[13:54] <tsotf> yajnab check your monitor resolution, maybe it's too small wwkwkkwkw
[13:54] <tsotf> :p on virtualbox always
[13:54] <yajnab> @tsotf
[13:54] <yajnab> : i dnt think so
[13:54] <yajnab> It s not on virtual box
[13:55] <tsotf> :D
[13:55] <tsotf> yajnab : maybe mr r321 know.
[13:56] <yajnab> mr r321
[13:56] <yajnab> wats dat
[13:56] <yajnab> ?
[13:57] <tsotf> r321 : 0.0 problem with monitor i try to fix,i hate when i failed, i must install again -.-"zzzzzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZ
[13:57] <tsotf> yajnab ?
[13:58] <yajnab> ya
[13:59] <crazyhorse> is it hard to rename a user in ubuntu and can it cause problems?
[14:00] <jpds> crazyhorse: No, and no.
[14:00] <crazyhorse> yay :)
[14:00] <tsotf> i don't know how to fix your problem -.-" same i just learning linux , din't try to find on google ?
[14:00] <jpds> crazyhorse: Well, it can cause problems if you've coded it somewhere like a script.
[14:01] <crazyhorse> haha it's because of a script i have to change
[14:01] <yajnab> ya man
[14:01] <yajnab> a lot got no answers
[14:01] <crazyhorse> should i do it thorugh the user accounts or using usermod?
[14:02] <jpds> crazyhorse: usermod.
[14:02] <crazyhorse> k
[14:03] <ian__75> hello
[14:03] <iciraus> hi
[14:03] <tsotf> yajnab :D tergantung amal perbuatan
[14:04] <yajnab> what language is that
[14:04] <yajnab> i only understand English
[14:04] <ian__75> what is this channel for?
[14:05] <DJones> ian__75: Its for Ubunti support
[14:05] <Foxhoundz> is there any way to make the backlight brightness transition smoother when using OEM keys?
[14:05] <ian__75> ok I need some support with python, but cant type in the python channel, and the c++ channel has overflow
[14:06] <DeliriumTremens> I'm smashing my head against the wall here; I have user1 on client, and user2 user3 and user4 on remote host.  I want user1 to be able to ssh with any of user2 user3 or user4 on the remote host without password.  I created an rsa key on the client with user1 and placed the id_rsa.pub contents in the authorized_keys file of user2 user3 user4 on the remote host
[14:06] <DeliriumTremens> i'm still getting Permission Denied (publickey)
[14:06] <DeliriumTremens> permissions for all ~/.ssh stand at 700, and authorized_keys at 600
[14:06] <Foxhoundz> ian__75: did you register your nick?
[14:06] <ian__75> no, first time on here
[14:07] <ian__75> besides I visit freenode once every six months maybe
[14:07] <Foxhoundz> ian__75: you probably can't speak in that channe because you haven't registered
[14:07] <Pumpkin-> DeliriumTremens: and you are running, on client, ssh user2@server ?
[14:07] <DeliriumTremens> yes
[14:08] <DeliriumTremens> user1 does ssh user2@server
[14:08] <tuxinator> nobody ;-) ?
[14:08] <DeliriumTremens> both client and server have a user1, and ssh user1@server works with the public key
[14:08] <DeliriumTremens> user2-4 do not
[14:08] <DeliriumTremens> user2-4 are unique to the server
[14:10] <Quest> is there a way for adobe acrobate file to open a link automatically when ever its open by someone?
[14:11] <crazyhorse> Quest: considering there's often ways to take complete control of the entire recipients computer I reckon opening a link is a fairly small ask
[14:12] <crazyhorse> how do i change my username?
[14:13] <crazyhorse> i keep getting user boa is currently logged in
[14:13] <DeliriumTremens> I get "sshd[10632]: Authentication refused: bad ownership or modes for directory" in /var/log/auth.log
[14:13] <jpds> crazyhorse: Log out and go into recovery mode.
[14:13] <crazyhorse> DeliriumTremens: i'm guessing the file permissions are wrong
[14:13] <DeliriumTremens> but the directories are owned by the user:group that they were created as
[14:13] <DeliriumTremens> when i created the users, i set them all to be in the same default group
[14:14] <zAo^> nl.archive.ubuntu.com down?
[14:14] <zAo^> top
[14:14] <crazyhorse> jpds: thanks
[14:15] <drvanon> Hey guys I use grub/arch to chainload windows (I kinda killed the original MBR) and now my sister wants to 'learn' ubuntu. Problem: My parents wont let me remove windows. What would be the best way to install ubuntu to the usb?
[14:15] <jpds> zAo^: Checking.
[14:16] <kunji> DeliriumTremens: Not just the group, I believe permissions should be 700.  If you're having trouble with ssh though, why not increase the logging level and let us know what errors it spits out?
[14:16] <k1l_> drvanon: i dont see a problem in using ubuntu and win in dualboot with grub
[14:16] <zAo^> thanks jpds
[14:17] <DeliriumTremens> kunji: permissions are at 700 for .ssh and 600 for authorized_keys
[14:17] <drvanon> k11_, oops my bad, They won't allow me to make HD smaller
[14:17] <crazyhorse> hmm in root shell i get user mod: cannot lock /etc/passwd try again later
[14:18] <kunji> DeliriumTremens: I think that sounds right, so I would suggest we up the logging level and see why ssh says it's rejecting the connection
[14:19] <DeliriumTremens> k
[14:20] <DeliriumTremens> kunji: pastebinning, momen
[14:22] <eagle747> is there a  goof thread to setup ssh behind a router, its probably been asked many times thanks.
[14:22] <eagle747> *good
[14:23] <zAo^> jpds: did you find anything?
[14:23] <kunji> eagle747: Probably, but all it really consists of is port forwarding port 22 (or something else if you're using a non-standard port).
[14:23] <eagle747> using port 22
[14:23] <DeliriumTremens> http://pastebin.com/BxW7HyMX
[14:24] <DeliriumTremens> output of auth.log and ssh -vvv
[14:24] <jpds> zAo^: They're looking at it in #ubuntu-mirrors.
[14:24] <muh2000> hi all
[14:24] <DeliriumTremens> auth.log on server ssh -vvv on client
[14:24] <eagle747> kunji : thanks for the tip all give it a go
[14:24] <Lobosque> how do I avoid prompts after installing packages with apt-get? for example mysql-server or mailutils. I tried using "export DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive" then "sudo apt-get install -q -y ..."
[14:24] <Lobosque> but it did not work
[14:24] <Lobosque> oh. Im on 12.04
[14:24] <muh2000> is there a way to automatically wipe /tmp and /var/tmp on shutdown/reboot?
[14:27] <DeliriumTremens> weird
[14:27] <DeliriumTremens> maybe it's the pastebin aura affecting me
[14:27] <DeliriumTremens> but i see a line in this that i didnt notice before
[14:28] <kunji> DeliriumTremens: Well, looks like the permissions are wrong on /home/user2  is that what you're looking at?
[14:28] <kunji> DeliriumTremens: Possibly the wrong owner
[14:28] <zAo^> jpds: thanks
[14:28] <skorpio> hi how do i start tor browser with tor-browser-bundle?
[14:28] <DeliriumTremens> kunji: user2:group is the owner
[14:29] <DeliriumTremens> what i was looking at was towards the top of the ssh output: debug3: Incorrect RSA1 identifier
[14:29] <DeliriumTremens> could not load rsa1 public key
[14:30] <DeliriumTremens> but also the bad ownership/modes
[14:30] <r321> skorpio: https://www.torproject.org/docs/debian
[14:30] <kunji> DeliriumTremens: Isn't that because you're using ECDSA though?
[14:31] <r321> skorpio: there are also instructions for Ubuntu on that page.
[14:31] <DeliriumTremens> i careated id_rsa on the client and shared the public key into the users' authorized_keys files
[14:31] <vindolino> sometimes my gnome session stops receiving keystrokes (hangs?) but I can switch to a virtual console with ctrl+alt+fn, is it possible to reload the gnome session from that virtual console without all the programs being closed?
[14:31] <DeliriumTremens> created*
[14:32] <r321> skorpio: Oh wait, you said the browser bundle, my mistake.
[14:32] <r321> I guess you can just download and run it.
[14:34] <r321> after extracting it and double clicking on the "start-tor-browser" file.
[14:38] <kunji> DeliriumTremens: what are permissions on the actual home directory for user2?
[14:38] <PHONE20_BTM> r
[14:39] <kunji> DeliriumTremens: I think the home directory needs to be writeable only by the user in question
[14:40] <DeliriumTremens> so they need to have user:user as owner?
[14:40] <DeliriumTremens> because when i created the users, i didnt give them their own group
[14:40] <kunji> DeliriumTremens: They probably do
[14:41] <DeliriumTremens> i was trying to keep it a little bit cleaner, and not have a bunch of useless groups...but apparently they might not be useless
[14:41] <DeliriumTremens> hah
[14:41] <kunji> DeliriumTremens: Well, give it a try and let us know
[14:41] <DeliriumTremens> will do
[14:41] <DeliriumTremens> i'll recreate one of them and see what happens
[14:42] <persona24> How can I log in as root in a terminal? Root is locked and I don't want to type sudo in every command
[14:43] <persona24> I need to log in as root in the GUI terminal. I'm doing Linux homework and I need to take screen shots
[14:44] <k1l_> i strongly recommend to use sudo
[14:44] <tuxinator> how do K and S rc.d scripts work in runlevel 0 ? are they all stopped?
[14:44] <k1l_> if you really know what you do you can use "sudo -i"
[14:44] <kunji> DeliriumTremens: Or well, I think it would be ok to remove write access for the group even if it's the same one, maybe try chmod g-w <home>  for user2's home directory?
[14:45] <kunji> persona24: sudo -i  if you need to subsequently cd someplace or something
[14:46] <kunji> persona24: Really though, stick with just sudo <command> as much as possible.  If you really feel you need to be root you can sudo su... but I strongly discourage it.
[14:47] <zAo^> how can I search the apt db for files?
[14:47] <zAo^> More specific; which package provides libProjectExplorer.so
[14:48] <nibbler> zAo^: apt-file search foo.so
[14:48] <zAo^> thanks nibbler
[14:49] <kunji> nibbler: Hmm, I hadn't see that before, interesting
[14:49] <kunji> zAo^: You might need to apt-get that, I don't think it's installed by default
[14:49] <zAo^> kunji: I noticed. Thanks
[14:50] <nibbler> absolutiely, and you have to apt-file update it....
[14:50] <nibbler> anyway, good luck, bye
[14:51] <nsahoo> In ccsm when I am trying to create a new keyboard shortcut, it's adding a <Primary> key. This seems to be messing up the shortcut. Any way around that?
[14:51] <nsahoo> I am running ubuntu 12.04
[14:52] <DeliriumTremens> kunji: that was it
[14:52] <DeliriumTremens> creating those users without their own group was screwing it up
[14:52] <DeliriumTremens> ssh didn't like that
[14:53] <kunji> DeliriumTremens: glad it's working now ^_^
[14:53] <DeliriumTremens> thanks a bunch
[14:59] <supNow> I'd like to get a file count per folder within a directory. How can I achieve this?
[15:00] <MonkeyDust> supNow  i'm sure the people in #bash can help better
[15:00] <supNow> thanks MonkeyDust
[15:07] <kriebz> I am having trouble booting 12.10 as a Xen Dom0 on x86_64 hardware with EUFI.  it can't seem to find the root fs, and I get weird error messages from the (initramfs) prompt
[15:10] <jakeR4566> how to remove app armor ?
[15:14] <compdoc> kriebz, did the machine come with windows 8 installed?
[15:15] <kriebz> compdoc: no, bare mobo and CPU, secureboot is disabled
[15:16] <DeliriumTremens> kunji: thanks for the help, but i wont be requesting help in here anymore -.-
[15:16] <compdoc> kriebz, I have two boards (asrock and gigabyte) with uefi and I had to play with the settings to get it just right.
[15:17] <dv310p3r> Just got a monitor that swivels into landscape mode, I have no idea how to make it go into landscape mode. Any help?
[15:17] <mshnaydman> quit
[15:17] <kriebz> compdoc: yeah, it was fun getting grub to boot in efi mode, but I did fix all that.  now it's just Xen that's being dumb
[15:17] <compdoc> I have raid cards that needed uefi legacy mode included, and on teh gigbyte, I had to disable UEFI video mode. or rather, set it to legacy
[15:18] <kriebz> this thing has like no bios options, sadly
[15:18] <kriebz> but I did get a computer for $134
[15:18] <compdoc> heh
[15:18] <compdoc> well, what partition table do you use? msdod, or gpt?
[15:18] <Tex_Nick> dv310p3r:  what graphics are you using
[15:18] <dv310p3r> intel on a laptop
[15:18] <compdoc> *msdos
[15:19] <Tex_Nick> dv310p3r:  what ubuntu distro
[15:20] <kriebz> compdoc: I re-installed with  GPT table and a ~100MB efi boot partition
[15:20] <dv310p3r> Tex_Nick, Intel HD Graphics 4000 / Ubuntu 12.04
[15:21] <compdoc> kriebz, might try using the msdos type then. ubuntu seems to like that better is certain situations
[15:21] <compdoc> in\
[15:21] <ner0x> What are the major differences between the postresql and postgresql-contrib packages?
[15:21] <kriebz> I don't like taking a step backwards :-(  I'll throw another disk in the machine and try again
[15:21] <Tex_Nick> dv310p3r:  try "System Settings/Displays" there should be a Rotation setting
[15:22] <dv310p3r> Thanks, can't believe i didn't notice.
[15:23] <Tex_Nick> dv310p3r:  np ;-)
[15:23] <kriebz> the linux GUI: hiding thigns in plain sight since 1992
[15:23] <kriebz> ner0x: one is the server, the other is add-ons
[15:24] <K4k> Hi, how do you change the keyring password in ubuntu 12.04/10? I have found instructions on how to do it in older versions but they no longer seem applicable in the newer releases
[15:24] <ner0x> kriebz: So postgresql-contrib isn't actually a full server, just additions. Hrm.
[15:24] <Keeni> hihi
[15:25] <kriebz> ner0x: run `apt-cache show [package name]` for info on what a package does.  postgresql-contrib is a little tricky sicne it's a metapackage, but...
[15:25] <ner0x> kriebz: That works.
[15:31] <Keeni> can anyone tell me how to configure Evolution for gmail-Account? i use the two step verification and evolution only accepts the app-specific password which I created but evolution does not save it correctly.. there is an entry in the gnome-keyring but its not the password I entered and so evolution asks for the password again every time I start it
[15:32] <miroesq_> I'd like to create an image of my ubuntu server install, but do not want to use clonezilla as it is way too complicated and Acronis home copies all the sectors even if I have that option unchecked so it's unusable and Acronis server is WAAAAAY too expensive. Any suggestions for good commercial software that is reasonably priced?
[15:33] <Doxin> starting audacity gives me a dialog about selecting a temp folder, followed by a segfault. what gives?
[15:34] <compdoc> miroesq_, the thing about clonezilla is, the 'beginner' settings are correct for windows and linux. theres not need to change any settings of your own
[15:34] <StephenS> !mint
[15:35] <miroesq_> compdoc: for some reason it is difficult for me to use. especially when compared to a commercial product such as acronis. is there another alternative?
[15:35] <Guest30777> Hello
[15:35] <Guest30777> can i set a usb drive as a grub entry?
[15:35] <compdoc> miroesq_, there might be, but Ive used clonezilla for such a long time and with such great success, I havent looked
[15:36] <ardian> Hi, I've installed apache under ubuntu on a server
[15:36] <khacker_> hello
[15:36] <Guest30777> hi
[15:36] <ardian> but when I visit the websites IP the server isn't responding
[15:36] <ardian> even though it says that apache is running
[15:36] <khacker_> are you a web coder
[15:36] <khacker_> ?
[15:37] <Guest30777> derp
[15:37] <Pici> ardian: from within your network?
[15:38] <ardian> Pici: no I installed it on amazon ec2
[15:38] <m0oz0o> irc.undernet.eu
[15:39] <khacker_> quit
[15:40] <khacker_> &quit
[15:40] <jeuwst> sda
[15:40] <ivotkl> khacker, it's /quit
[15:40] <ivotkl> There he goes. =P
[15:40] <hudson> how works this chat?
[15:41] <compdoc> you type, someone responds
[15:41] <hudson> cool
[15:41] <Pici> hudson: This is the official Ubuntu support channel, if you have a question, just ask.
[15:41] <nizeguy> hi folks, i need GLIBC_2.17 is it available for ubuntu or mint ? btw is there a mint channel ?
[15:41] <Pici> !mintsupport | nizeguy
[15:41] <hudson> first time here...
[15:41] <kriebz> miroesq_: is "dump" or "
[15:42] <Pici> ardian: You may want to ask in #ubuntu-server
[15:42] <kriebz> gah, ... "tar" unsuitable for some reason?
[15:42] <nizeguy> hi folks, i need GLIBC_2.17 is it available for ubuntu ? :)
[15:42] <miroesq_> kriebz: ?
[15:42] <ivotkl> nizeguy, No idea. Let me check.
[15:42] <gregor3005> hi, i tried a new mobile boradband connection with ubuntu live and i get a wrong submask (255.255.255.255) and no route
[15:43] <ivotkl> gregor3005, that's weird
[15:43] <ivotkl> Can you create a pastebin with output of "ifconfig -a"?
[15:44] <gregor3005> ivotkl: yes i know. on my android device the sim works. and under windows the usbstick and sim works
[15:45] <ivotkl> I assume that if you get broadcasting address as submask then your USB mobile net dongle is being recognised. But just to make sure, post the output of "lsusb -l" as well please.
[15:45] <kriebz> miroesq_: you wanted an "image" of your server.  there's a lot simpler ways of doing this than installing some giant automatic program
[15:46] <drag0nius> i'm trying to download Matlab on 12.04, i'm connected to 50 mbps internet, but manager downloads just around 10 kbps
[15:46] <loopdepoop> hallo
[15:46] <drag0nius> any ideas?
[15:47] <gregor3005> ivotkl: ifconfig: http://paste2.org/p/3000725
[15:47] <miroesq_> kriebz: well, i know nothing about linux, i am just using freeswitch as a pbx server. all i wanted was a bootable program, either through usb or cd that would create a backup image so if there is an HD failiyre, i can just get a new HD and restore. just like i do with my windows workstations and acronis true image home
[15:48] <gregor3005> ivotkl: lsusb: http://paste2.org/p/3000733
[15:48] <Pici> drag0nius: What is "manager"?
[15:49] <drag0nius> java webstart from matlab website
[15:49] <kriebz> miroesq_: aside from actually learnign Linux, which I find a fantastic life skill, perhaps hire some young person to come in and do it for you.  just make sure to have him plan it out and watch every step, so he doesn't goof and delete it
[15:51] <miroesq_> kriebz: it's true i know nothing of linux, this is just a hobby for me. i can use clonezilla, i just find it awkward. for some reason ATHI does sector by sector backup of Linux, so I am just looking for an alternative. Don't want to rely on a 3rd party, but I see your point. Thanks
[15:52] <gregor3005> ivotkl: i found this bug entrie which points to the same problem: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=785853
[15:52] <gregor3005> i tested it also on fedora, same problem
[15:53] <kriebz> miroesq_: it's one of those thing's that'
[15:53] <c2tarun> I installed sun java from webupd8 ppa and it downloaded 92MB java from the oracle website. Now I want to install java on one more machine as well, is it possible that I retrieve that 92MB download from somewhere and share it so that my bandwidth is not wasted.
[15:53] <kriebz> that's really easy to do, but hard to explain
[15:53] <Josssse> Hello Guys. I'm working on a perl program to help me do computations for my research. It's starting to get long, with many subroutines. So my question: is there a gedit plugin which lets me "close" and "open" subroutines with the '+' and '-' boxes as certain file browsers???
[15:54] <altrantc> hallo
[15:54] <loopdepoop> hey!
[15:54] <miroesq_> kriebz: There was a program that I used before, just don't remember the name exactly and can't find the CD. I think it was called HD copy. I will keep searching.
[15:54] <loopdepoop> can someone help me?
[15:55] <bean> c2tarun: you have a bandwidth cap?
[15:55] <heraclitis> loopdepoop, ask your question
[15:55] <bean> !ask | loopdepoop
[15:55] <Scooter__> hy
[15:55] <c2tarun> bean, yeah, also if I am able to share, it'll save some time (time it takes in downloading)
[15:56] <c2tarun> bean, the cap is not like it'll disconnect my internet, after reaching my cap my connection will slow down.
[15:56] <bean> hmm okay
[15:56] <Scooter__> does anyone now i can run an apps in sandbox under ubuntu 12.04 without virtualbox ?
[15:56] <bean> c2tarun: they .deb that it installed from may still be on the first machine, im not sure where though
[15:57] <bean> Scooter__: in a chroot?
[15:57] <c2tarun> bean, hmm.. ok, I'll try to find by looking at their java-installer app source code
[15:57] <jrib> Scooter__: what's wrong with vbox?
[15:57] <Scooter__> no i want a stand olaone app
[15:57] <Scooter__> standalone
[15:57] <jrib> Scooter__: I don't know what that means
[15:57] <Scooter__> without interaction with my user sapce
[15:58] <compdoc> kvm
[15:58] <Scooter__> virtualbox : running a entire OS
[15:58] <Scooter__> a soft like sandboxie under windows
[15:58]  * perfectz hi :)
[15:59] <Anirban> How to uninstall a application installed from Ubuntu Software Centre in Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[15:59] <c2tarun> how can I search for "wget" from all files in the folder?
[15:59] <Scooter__> the idea is  chromium is a super friend interface ect ... but it's a big spy
[15:59] <Scooter__> i want it isolate of my own sys
[16:00] <kriebz> Scooter__: you can look at how to configure apparmor, or up the ante to selinux, or possibly run something like linux-vserver or whatever it's called these days (OS-level virt
[16:00] <gregor3005> ah it also occurs on ubuntu: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/modemmanager/+bug/861282
[16:00] <kriebz> c2tarun: `find . | grep "wget"` maybe?
[16:00] <loopdepoop> hello again. i need help w/ configing my installation dok as a grub entry
[16:01] <Scooter__> ok
[16:01] <loopdepoop> thx scooter
[16:01] <appel> Hello there, anyone succed on dualbooting on a Acer w510 yet? :
[16:01] <Scooter__> thx
[16:01] <loopdepoop> wait wut
[16:02] <loopdepoop> ooh awesome
[16:02] <loopdepoop> text colors
[16:02] <loopdepoop> ok who knows how to cnfig grub?
[16:03] <loopdepoop> if you do pm me or comment
[16:03] <gregor3005> the hint with dhcp helps here
[16:03] <bazhang> !grub2 | loopdepoop
[16:03] <kriebz> Anirban: click on the "Installed" part of the menu at the top, find your app, and click uninstall
[16:03] <bazhang> loopdepoop, read the wiki
[16:04] <c2tarun> kriebz, grep wget * worked for me :) thanks
[16:05] <c2tarun> bean, the tar is in /var/cache/oracle-jdk7-installer location, I think if I copy oracle-jdk7-installer folder it should work :P
[16:05] <bean> probably
[16:05] <clemens> Hello! I've a dell notebook with hybrid graphics (AMD/Intel). I saw a lot of tutorials but they are a few moth old. My question is if there is a new solution for Hybrid graphics?
[16:05]  * perfectz how many of you guys think that windows 8 sucks compared to the newest ubuntu version?
[16:05] <bazhang> perfectz, offtopic here
[16:06]  * perfectz yeah I guess so :D
[16:06] <ivotkl> Have to go, see you guys. It's been a pleasure as always. You can find me on ubuntuforums and linuxforums under this same nickname. =)
[16:07] <eagle747> clemens: your better off disabling the extra graphics chip
[16:07] <ivotkl> Have to go, see you guys. It's been a pleasure as always. You can find me on ubuntuforums, raspberrypi and linuxforums under this same nickname. =)
[16:09] <clemens> could be there some risks if i do so?
[16:09] <BluesKaj> eagle747, that's not good advice
[16:10] <eagle747> clements :  there is no risk, your just disabling a module from the terminal
[16:11] <skorpio> what does it mean when MultiGet download manager tells me: retcode fail?
[16:12] <clemens> BluesKaj: Why is in you view eagle747 not so good?
[16:13] <bitbitbitbit> can anyone suggest a good irc for basic linux security questions?
[16:13] <bazhang> bitbitbitbit, ##security
[16:13] <MonkeyDust> bitbitbitbit  type /msg alis list *security*
[16:13] <BluesKaj> clemens, are you running Optimus ?
[16:13] <bitbitbitbit> thanks total noob here
[16:14] <Anirban> Also Please suggest me a Internet Security Software . Is Ubuntu vulnerable to Virus, Trojans, Malware threats...?
[16:15] <bazhang> !virus | Anirban
[16:15] <BluesKaj> !optimus
[16:15] <ubuntu> ship
[16:15] <Guest61716> ok
[16:16] <clemens> nope i just installed 12.10 and know i'm looking a good solution for hybrid graphics because the fan noise is a little bit annoying
[16:16] <sonOfRa> can I use this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1000644 for an ntfs formatted image? I have a drive that won't mount (hardware error?), and I made a copy with dd. Now I would like to mount it and see if the data is recoverable
[16:16] <przemek_> hello how to make traceroute in both directions?
[16:16] <Anirban> Is ubottu a bot ????
[16:16] <dward> bitbitbitbit #gentoo-hardened, they won't mind if the questions are broad/ not relating to ubuntu. they are very smart over there.
[16:16] <bazhang> Anirban, yes
[16:17] <bitbitbitbit> dward i'm a total fricken lame noob how to do get on that forum. sorry and thanks
[16:17] <deadbeef> guys i've a really weird problem: gnome-shell does not work anymore, after i installed some packages. it boots gnome classic instead. what did i do ?
[16:17] <bazhang> bitbitbitbit, /join #channelname
[16:18] <bean> przemek_: what do you mean?
[16:18] <bazhang> deadbeef, remove some of the extensions you installed
[16:18] <bitbitbitbit> bazhang, where do i type that in?
[16:18] <BluesKaj> clemens, check this out , it may apply to your graphics , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee
[16:18] <deadbeef> bazhang: which ones ?
[16:18] <deadbeef> bazhang: i used debian for years, this is the first time i use ubuntu
[16:18] <eagle747> clements: i used to have a dell hybrid, used to get pretty hot, never used it after that, try setting up the hybrid and check your temps or it might run cooler if you disable 1 chip.
[16:18] <bazhang> bitbitbitbit, right here, where you type the question to me
[16:19] <bazhang> deadbeef, try removing them one by one and test
[16:19] <bazhang> !find tweak
[16:19] <deadbeef> bazhang: also, for a brief period, gnome-shell's style in ubuntu was really awesome, both in greeter screen and in the wm
[16:19] <deadbeef> bazhang: i'm wondering how i could restore it
[16:19] <bazhang> deadbeef, using gnome-tweak-tool
[16:19] <przemek_> bean:  i have packet loss and poor transfer so my admin said
[16:20] <przemek_> i have to send hhim
[16:20] <przemek_> traceroute if possible from both ends
[16:20] <bean> przemek_: okay, well, from both ends of what?
[16:21] <viju> hey
[16:21] <przemek_> bean:  its why am asking :) i think
[16:21] <viju> I am can't apt-get update
[16:21] <przemek_> its mean from me IP to ex google.uk
[16:21] <viju> it's showing some errror,
[16:22] <przemek_> but how to make from other side?
[16:22] <goodtime> deadbeef: i belive you might wanna try apt-get install gnome classicdesktop or something like that the proper command is in synaptic for a differnt GUI
[16:22] <przemek_> i know how to make traceroute to one way
[16:22] <bean> przemek_: you can't, you'd have to do it from a server not on your local connection
[16:22] <viju> failed to fetch , couldnt resolve ..url
[16:22] <skorpio> is there another download manager for socks proxy than MultiGet?
[16:22] <przemek_> ahhh
[16:22] <Dennis8162> Hi, Im trying to Install Ubuntu but get a error: "The attempt to mount a fle system with type ext4 inscisi7 (0,0,0), patition #6 9sdb) at / failed.
[16:22] <przemek_> bean:  ok thank you mr bean
[16:23] <Raptors> In you try running a hdware accelerated apk on a platform that doesn't support hardware acceleration would it damage the device?
[16:23] <ivotkl> Have to go, see you guys. It's been a pleasure as always. You can find me on ubuntuforums, raspberrypi and linuxforums under this same nickname. =)
[16:23] <Raptors> woops wrong channel
[16:23] <bean> !enter | viju
[16:23] <clemens> BluesKaj: Bumblebee won't work for my. I have a Intel HD4000  and AMD HD 7730 M
[16:23] <royc> Hello. The backlight adjustment on my Dell XPS 13 (running Ubuntu 12.04) stopped working. Anyone have a fix?
[16:23] <bean> !root | antz__
[16:23] <BluesKaj> Dennis8162, how many primary partitions ?
[16:23] <bean> !rootirc | antz__
[16:24] <bean> viju: we need the whole error
[16:24] <bean> !details | viju
[16:24] <antz__> !wcid
[16:24] <viju> sorry guys , there was some problem in Internet connection
[16:24] <viju> :d
[16:25] <viju> its downloading now , bean thanks anyway :0
[16:25] <viju> :)
[16:25] <bean> antz__: if you just want info from ubottu yourself you should PM it, rather than doing that in channel
[16:25] <Dennis8162> I set all the partitions using this tutorial: http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2011/05/23/install-ubuntu-11-04-on-external-hard-disk/ i didnt do anything else but what is said there.
[16:25] <bean> np viju
[16:25] <BluesKaj> clemens, then try this , http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2083181
[16:25] <royc> Hello. The backlight adjustment on my Dell XPS 13 (running Ubuntu 12.04) stopped working. Anyone have a fix or suggestions?
[16:26] <goodtime> royc: try to uninstall it then reinstall idk
[16:26] <royc> reinstall which?
[16:26] <antz__> does ubuntu have builtin software to monitor your network speed?
[16:26] <antz__> quit
[16:27] <dward> iftop
[16:27] <jpds> antz__: vnstat, sysstat, ...
[16:27] <goodtime> antz__: yes system monitor
[16:27] <jpds> Shame he left.
[16:28] <Dennis8162> I did what was in that tutorial.
[16:29] <royc> Hello. The backlight adjustment on my Dell XPS 13 (running Ubuntu 12.04) stopped working. Anyone have a fix or suggestions?
[16:30] <LordDune> can anyone tell me where to go for help with constant Flash crashes in Firefox 19 / Precise ?
[16:30] <Dennis8162> Cant you reinstall flash?
[16:31] <LordDune> Yes, I have tried 100 times Dennis. I've tried so many suggestions online I have lost count.
[16:32] <LordDune> even Chromium crashes so I know it's not a plug-in for FF
[16:32] <BluesKaj> so you're tring to install ubuntu on an outboard drive , Dennis8162 ?
[16:32] <Dennis8162> Yes
[16:32] <royc> Hello. The backlight adjustment on my Dell XPS 13 (running Ubuntu 12.04) stopped working. Anyone have a fix or suggestions?
[16:32] <ronalds_m> royc, what exactly stopped working?
[16:32] <LordDune> (rather Flash crashes within Chromium)
[16:32] <clemens> BluesKaj: thx i'll try it :D
[16:32] <kunji> LordDune: Flash is a crashy unstable beast on any platform, and it's not like we can look at the source... so not sure what to tell you, I wouldn't expect it to end up being very stable
[16:33] <Dennis8162> Blueskaj: I deleted all windows partitions from the drive and formated it
[16:33] <royc> ronald_m: the buttons to adjust the backlight brightness. It stays way too bright by default, runing my eyes and my battery life.
[16:33] <LordDune> so kinji, what would you suggest I do, never watch any videos on this OS?
[16:33] <LordDune> I NEVER had this problem before I upgraded to Precise fyi
[16:34] <Dennis8162> royc: IS there a default brightness option in the system settings, I thought there was.
[16:34] <royc> Dennis8162: it doesn't change anything
[16:35] <LordDune> so how should I watch videos then kunji ?
[16:36] <Dennis8162> LordDune: http://freshtutorial.com/video-player-linux-ubuntu/
[16:36] <BluesKaj> did you prepare the partitions and encryption etc , Dennis8162 ? and a boot partiton isn't necessary , all you need is / and /home and swap in that order ...that tutorial is off the mark IMO
[16:36] <kunji> LordDune: Well it works right?  Just it crashes pretty often, I would just kill the process whenever it crashes, or is it crashing so often it's unusable?  Because it shouldn't be that bad.  That said, youtube-dl is a good program for downloading youtube videos, but there are a lot of other flash site it doesn't work for.
[16:37] <kunji> BluesKaj: Don't even really need /home
[16:37] <Dennis8162> ok
[16:37] <c2tarun> LordDune, sorry, this suggestion might not be right for you, but have you tried google-chrome?
[16:37] <lcabreza> http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/02/linus-torvalds-i-will-not-change-linux-to-deep-throat-microsoft/
[16:37] <BluesKaj> kunji, well /home is good if you're preparing a fresh install
[16:38] <kunji> Dennis8162: I've never seen an error like that though, even reducing my google search to "ext4 inscisi" only returns like 5 results T.T
[16:38] <LordDune> kunji, it crashes 99% of the time. Especially when you go from a commercial (what doesn't have ads nowadays) to the video content. TV shows, Youtube, instructional videoes, it doesn't matter what I watch, it all crashes 99% of the time
[16:38] <Dennis8162> what size should i set the parttions?
[16:38] <kunji> LordDune: Ah, that's more than normal T.T
[16:38] <LordDune> c2tarun , yes, Chromium crashes also
[16:39] <c2tarun> LordDune, not chromium, google-chrome
[16:39] <bean> install adblock plus?
[16:39] <makara> help please. Can't get PCSX2 emulator to detect ISO image
[16:39] <LordDune> I have adblock plus, script blocker, etc etc
[16:39] <kunji> Is it Chromium, or Chrome that uses Pepper instead of flash?
[16:39] <c2tarun> kunji, chrome
[16:39] <LordDune> all I know is the last version of Ubuntu worked perfectly. Now I get crashes and blue-skin people
[16:39]  * c2tarun not sure about chromium
[16:39] <kunji> c2taurun: thanks
[16:40] <Dennis8162> is 10gb ok for the / partition?
[16:40] <c2tarun> LordDune, what is blue-skin?
[16:40] <kunji> LordDune: oh... you have an Nvidia card don't you?
[16:40] <_alpha_> does anyone know of a gmail new message notifier that uses the credentials from ubuntu's online accounts thing?
[16:40] <LordDune> I've even tried to install new video drivers and that doesnt do anything either
[16:40] <BluesKaj> LordDune, try reinstalling flash
[16:40] <LordDune> yes kunji, Nvidia card
[16:41] <LordDune> GT GeForce 240
[16:41]  * c2tarun linux users should ask refund from Nvidia.
[16:41] <Dennis8162> what sizes should is et the partiotions?
[16:41] <Quest> how to find text in files that are in a dir (or the sub dirs)?
[16:41] <kunji> LordDune: The blue people is a problem with Nvidia/Flash depending on who you ask, there is a library that isn't being called properly
[16:41] <kunji> LordDune: Lemme pull up the workarounds for it, I should really bookmark them
[16:41] <LordDune> yes, I went in and edited the files as instructed, but the problem remains kinji
[16:42] <LordDune> I did the workarounds and it still crashes and blue people. Would be fantastic if I was a smurf.
[16:42] <kunji> LordDune: Hmm, well, lemme find some that actually work then, since you still have blue people :P
[16:42] <c2tarun> LordDune, did you try downloading flash plugin from adobe site and pasting it to ~/.mozilla/plugins
[16:43] <LordDune> but I only get blue people 1% of the 1% that flash doesn't actually crash
[16:43] <Dennis8162> oh and can is e the grub bottloader to the /
[16:43] <Dennis8162> i chose the pne where it said the name of the hdd
[16:43] <LordDune> I've tried many different versions of Flash
[16:43] <c2tarun> LordDune, by pasting in plugins folder?
[16:43] <LordDune> 32 bit, 64 bit, so called "stable" versions, experimental versions, "AIR" versions
[16:44] <Pwnguin1> How often do updates come for Ubuntu?
[16:44] <c2tarun> Pwnguin1, what do you mean?
[16:44] <LordDune> no, by deleting the old files and reinstalling via terminal
[16:44] <kunji> LordDune: Which fixes did you try?  It's possible there are things that need to be undone.
[16:44] <Dennis8162> brb
[16:44] <puznel> LordDune: probably not the solution you are looking for but... do you really need Flash?
[16:44] <Dennis8162> im gonna try install
[16:44] <LordDune> kunji : so many that I lost count
[16:45] <LordDune> well how would I watch videos within a browser other than flash?
[16:45] <Quest> how to find text in files that are in a dir (or the sub dirs)?
[16:45] <LordDune> (not meaning to sound dumb, but if there's another way, I am all for it !!!)
[16:45] <puznel> LordDune: depending on the sites, you may use HTML5 (youtube, dailymotion) which works fine.
[16:45] <MonkeyDust> Quest  combine find with grep
[16:46] <LordDune> hmmm
[16:46] <puznel> LordDune: for other sites, perhaps cclive (supports 50+ sites) can download the video.
[16:46] <c2tarun> LordDune, ok its worth giving a try, download the flash tar.gz file from http://www.adobe.com/support/flashplayer/downloads.html   extract and paste contents to ~/.mozilla/plugins
[16:46] <c2tarun> LordDune, if plugins is not present, create it.
[16:46] <Quest> MonkeyDust,  how to find is for file names.
[16:46] <LordDune> considering the fact that Flash says they will no longer support Linux, I think we should ALL change from them
[16:46] <kunji> LordDune: There are some free implementations you could try, you could use HTML5, some things you can actually get the video directly (aka like JupiterBroadcasting and Hak5)
[16:46] <c2tarun> kunji, I guess for Hak5 you need flash
[16:47] <goodtime> heh i installed flash
[16:47] <MonkeyDust> Quest  use find to look for filenames, then grep to look into that file -- the people in #bash can tell you how
[16:47] <fidel> LordDune: chrome comeswith flash
[16:47] <kunji> c2tarun: Hmm, I don't think so
[16:47] <LordDune> I have flash aid on FF
[16:47] <LordDune> so I've tried that version I believe
[16:47] <fidel> LordDune: so ingeneral flash workd pretty good within chrome browser on linux.
[16:47] <goodtime> ofcorse i just did a new install of ubuntu 12.04lts
[16:47] <LordDune> hmmm fidel I will try that also
[16:48] <Quest> k
[16:48] <fidel> LordDune: regarding alternatives - at least youtube offers some of its videos via html5 & without flash
[16:48] <goodtime> icetea has it
[16:48] <goodtime> icetea7
[16:48] <LordDune> yeah, generally speaking i don't watch youtube. mostly reruns of tv shows via the TV show website or netflix, etc
[16:49] <goodtime> oh wait thats ajava app
[16:49] <goodtime> sorry
[16:49] <LordDune> thanks for your help, I will try these things after lunch !!
[16:49] <puznel> IIRC Netflix used Silverlight instead of Flash.
[16:50] <oldude67> puznel, yeah and it crashes about every 30 seconds.
[16:50] <puznel> Why I'm not surprised...
[16:51] <LordDune> (it's weird because all I know is the last version of Ubuntu I used was fine with Flash. Precise might be the problem, or the new version of FF, or the new version of Flash, or even new Nvidia drivers)
[16:51] <LordDune> (wish I could find out what because it seems there are many people out there still with the same problem I have)
[16:51] <kunji> puznel: Yeah.. thing is the silverlight bit is kinda a sham, after all they make it run on the ps3, which as far as I know has no silverlight
[16:52] <LordDune> yeah, I am 50 years old. haven't owned a gaming system since the Sega.
[16:53] <BluesKaj> LordDune, did you try reinstalling flash ?
[16:53] <LordDune> yes BluesKaj
[16:53] <xibalba> The Sega...I vaguely remember that
[16:53] <LordDune> (heh, was meant as a joke, I owned a PS 2 but that was my last system)
[16:54] <LordDune> dang thing broke after a year too
[16:55] <LordDune> maybe I should revert to the last version of Ubuntu
[16:55] <xubuntu> hi
[16:55] <antz> quit
[16:55] <LordDune> or do a reinstall of Precise?
[16:56] <LordDune> I sometimes wonder if this OS is buggy or not
[16:56] <Guest38436> i have an error when install xubuntu 12.10 [Errno 30] Read-only file system: '/target/lib/modules/3.5.0-17-generic/kernel/drivers/media/dvb/dvb-usb/dvb-usb-dtv5100.ko'
[16:56] <goodtime> id stay with 12.04 LTS
[16:56] <antz> does ubuntu has built-in software where i can monitor network speed?
[16:56] <LordDune> (my version on my computer, not precise in general)
[16:56] <goodtime> antz: yes system monitor
[16:57] <theos> hello! my external speakers make a hissing sound when i connect the plug to the laptop headphone output. and the hissing stops when i pull the plug. is it ubuntu issue or laptop hardware issue? please help
[16:57] <bean> theos: probably a laptop issues.
[16:57] <goodtime> the plug hole is prob dirty
[16:58] <theos> goodtime both of them?
[16:58] <goodtime> spray it with air
[16:58] <goodtime> just the input jack
[16:58] <backbox> Error opening file for reading: Permission denied
[16:58] <backbox> **(ubiquity:10434): CRITICAL ** unable to create '/root/.cache/dconf' ; dconf will not work properly
[16:59] <backbox> ??
[16:59] <fckingwicked> hello i would like to install ubuntu 12.10 server via usb. the Universal-USB-Installer-1.9.2.6 does not support ubuntu server version. do i just select desktop? or will this cause problems
[17:00] <kunji> LordDune: Maybe, are you experiencing other things that are broken and it seems like it's just your install that has the problem?  Also if you didn't remember to run the md5 checksum, it's possible the original install was corrupt.
[17:00] <backbox> it always tells me that on install... yet the system always seems to work fine... what's up with it though??? I'm not even running gnome??
[17:00] <kunji> fckingwicked: Is that a windows tool?  You could use UnetBootin
[17:00] <genii-around> fckingwicked: Why not instead use a minimal iso then do the tasksel command to install the server parts like LAMP and sshd, etc
[17:01] <backbox> and why does it always check batery state ... even on a desktop??
[17:01] <Safa_[A_boy]> Hi all, can someone give me the mailing list for Ubuntu fonts project ? I want to ask them about the Arabic font :-)
[17:01] <fckingwicked> universal usb installer is suggested on the ubunutu website
[17:03] <antz> so for system monitor on ubunt. it only shows how much network is being used. is there one where i can tell what the max speed is? like you know how sometime when wireless is slow. is that just mean i m not receving as many packets becuase of .... what reasons?
[17:03] <fckingwicked> kunji: unetbootin does not support ubuntu 12.10
[17:03] <Espen_> How does spdif output work? Some people say your aren't able to change the volume on the audio, as it is done by the reciever. But i can still do it on both Ubuntu and Windows?
[17:03] <|Anthony|> what's the ubuntu development chan
[17:03] <kunji> fckingwicked: Yeah, unetbootin can be a little unreliable, but if it doesn't work you just try it again, no harm done.  If the universal usb installer will do the server version selecting the desktop one, then it's fine.  Also unetbootin works with basically any .iso file, I know, I do it all the time
[17:03] <|Anthony|> !dev
[17:04] <|Anthony|> join #ubuntudev
[17:04] <fckingwicked> genii-around: i dont have it installed yet and i have no dvd drive on the machine. kunji: i will try with the desktop version thanks
[17:04] <kunji> Espen_: ? You can do it in Ubuntu for the spdif out?
[17:05] <Espen_> Yes, i can. Some person says this tho:
[17:05] <Espen_> there is no volume control for the digital device  the volume is controlled by your digital receiver
[17:05] <BluesKaj> Espen_, spdif volume ctrl works with the KB vol ctrls and alsamixer , not sure about the panel icon on unity/gnome , since i use kde
[17:06] <Espen_> KB vol? and hi blueskaj again :p
[17:06] <BluesKaj> keyboard , Espen_
[17:06] <Espen_> ah
[17:07] <kunji> Espen_: Well lets see, it's definitely done by the receiver for digital out in the case of the optical out connections, unless the OS can hint what it wants to the device..
[17:07] <BluesKaj> Espen_, but it aslo works on your audio amp/reciever of course
[17:08] <BluesKaj> coaxial as well , not just optical
[17:08] <kunji> Espen_: spdif I'm really not sure, is that even digital?
[17:08] <Espen_> it is digital yes
[17:08] <BluesKaj> kunji, definitely digital
[17:08] <BluesKaj> no analog at the spdif out
[17:09] <Espen_> still working on my bugreport.., guy seems obsessed with fixing name of my sound device and not the actual sound volume reset i have.. :/
[17:09] <BluesKaj> sdpif = sony-philips digital interface, kunji
[17:10] <BluesKaj>  err spdif :)
[17:10] <dean_> Hi all I have installed Ubuntu on my PC but have realised that I need to have windows for my sons school stuff so need to reinstall it but only problem is I have no drivers disc. I have been onto the manufacturers website acer and I can see the drivers but how would I install them?
[17:11] <jamesgcd> dean_: its essentially just run each of the program installation files one by one until everything is working, theres nothing really beyond
[17:11] <BluesKaj> dean_, windows drivers will install with your windows OS
[17:12] <dean_> BluesKaj, It is windows xp but drivers dont install for chipset and etc?
[17:12] <The98> I have so doubts about LIRC, can anyone help?
[17:12] <dean_> jamesgcd, Am I looking for an exe file then cos I can see alot of dll files when I go into the zip file?
[17:12] <BluesKaj> dean_, just reminder tho , windows will wipe out the grub bootloader , so you'llneed the ubuntu OS live media to reinstall grub to the mbr
[17:13] <jamesgcd> dean_: it depends on the hardware and the OS. Some default windows drivers will install by themself and work properly, others might not. If you find that the hardware isnt working with default drivers its probably best to install the manufacturers one, and yeah typically you'll be looking for an .exe of .msi, it can get tricky installing them otherwise
[17:13] <Pici> dean_: Are you looking for help finding drivers for Windows?
[17:13] <dennis8162> Hi its me again, it ried what you said and still get he error
[17:13] <kunji> BluesKaj: I don't think you can control volume for spdif in the OS, if you can, I would appreciate an explanation of how that works.
[17:13] <dennis8162> tried*
[17:13] <Pici> dean_: If so, #ubuntu isn't the right place to ask. Try somewhere like ##windows
[17:13] <dean_> Pici, I will be running ubuntu alongside a fresh windows partition
[17:14] <dichtbijzee> doing the mini install i get an error about the mirror. "mirror does not support the specified release precise" any thoughts? Googling only finds 2 old bugs...
[17:14] <Pici> dean_: Okay? But it sounds like you're asking for help finding the right driver downloads for your Windows install.
[17:14] <supNow> is there a guide on how I can control my "ubuntu-server" from my "ubuntu-desktop" desktop version I'm running is 12.10. What I'd like to do is go to switch user and login to the remote machine and control it from my desktop
[17:14] <dennis8162> can anyone help please?
[17:14] <dean_> jamesgcd, When I extract the zip file it brings up loads of dll files and then an executable file?
[17:15] <dean_> Pici, I am just checking to see how I would install them I have downloaded the drivers
[17:15] <Pici> dean_: Windows support is offtopic for #ubuntu period
[17:15] <jamesgcd> dean_: Most likely you just need to run the .exe and it should do it by itself, although it would be advised to create a system restore point before doing that. As Pici said it may be better to ask someone in a windows specific IRC, but I dont think it'll be that problematic
[17:16] <dennis8162> dean_: you want ##windows
[17:16] <Keeni> can anyone tell me how to configure evolution for gmail-account with two-step-verification activated? evolution does not save the app-specific password correctly..so that every time when I start evolution it asks me for the password
[17:16] <dean_> jamesgcd, Ok thanks for your help I was kind of just looking for reassurance thats all Ubuntu will still be my number one unfortunately for my sons school work he has to install a windows native disc
[17:17] <dean_> dennis8162, I didn't realise there was a windows irc channel is it on freenode?
[17:17] <bazhang> dean_, yes
[17:17] <Pici> dean_: yes, its called ##windows
[17:17] <dean_> Ok thanks guys
[17:18] <Kbcao_Newbie> oi!
[17:18] <dennis8162> so can anyone help i need ubuntu. :P
[17:18] <Kbcao_Newbie> tuda a sala e PT br?
[17:18] <Pici> !pt | Kbcao_Newbie
[17:18] <antz> wireless speed for ubuntu is dicated by what factors?
[17:18] <antz> is it exclusively hardware?
[17:18] <Keeni> really nobody uses evolution for gmail?
[17:19] <Pici> dennis8162: All I've seen you ask is 'Hi its me again, it ried what you said and still get he error', I don't think we know what you're even asking about.
[17:19] <BluesKaj> kunji , the spdif volume is controlled by pulseaudio , the alsamixer volume doesn't affect the output
[17:19] <jamesgcd> antz: If working properly no more factors than any other OS. The hardware you're running compared to the speed the router is able to provide
[17:19] <kunji> antz: Wireless speed is never exclusively hardware on any OS T.T
[17:19] <antz> knji and jamesgcd is contradicting
[17:20] <kunji> antz: No we're not, read it carefully
[17:20] <antz> kunji says OS does affect. jamesgcd said no OS doesnt affect
[17:20] <jamesgcd> antz: the OS is only a problem if theres a glitch with it.
[17:20] <BluesKaj> Espen_, did you see my post to kunji above , it might give you some insight
[17:21] <dennis8162> OH ok, when installing ubuntu i get the error: "The attempt to mount a file system with type ext4 inscisi7 (0,0,0), partition #6 (sdb) at / failed.
[17:22] <Espen_> aah i see
[17:22] <kunji> antz: jamesgcd said NO MORE than other OSs, not that it makes no difference, furthermore the drivers can make a big difference.
[17:22] <Espen_> i find it strange tho, that i haven't found a single bugreport about issues similar to mine.
[17:22] <antz> so is there anthing i can do from the OS side to increase my wireless speed
[17:22] <antz> ie configure some networking file?
[17:22] <antz> network manager is what ubuntu uses?
[17:22] <antz> or is there any other software?
[17:23] <FloodBot1> antz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:23] <Espen_> just waiting for someone coding for pulseaudio to check my bug.
[17:23] <kunji> antz: For instance, there's cards that have linux drivers that don't support all the standards the hardware itself does.  What exactly were you hoping to do to increase the speed?
[17:23] <BluesKaj> Espen_, remind me what bug is that ?
[17:24] <dennis8162> Please can someone help ive been trying for hours :(
[17:24] <Espen_> any device with s/pdif is reset to 100% volume output, if switch default playback device (on same soundcard).
[17:24] <Espen_> only happens to spdif output, analog saves its sound levels.
[17:25] <antz> kunji, well i have two laptops. one is ubuntu and one is PC. these two uses the same wireless but ubuntu always disconnect time to time and slow while on pc its super fast and no problem.
[17:25] <kunji> BluesKaj: Can you cite that for me, about the pulseaudio control.. because I'm not really sure how that's possible.
[17:25] <antz> any idea as to why?
[17:25] <kunji> antz: Sounds like a driver problem.
[17:25] <antz> kunji, how do i go about fixing it?
[17:26] <dennis8162> What do i do? it cant make the / parttion
[17:28] <dichtbijzee> doing the mini install i get an error about the mirror. "mirror does not support the specified release precise" any thoughts? Googling only finds 2 old bugs...
[17:28] <kunji> antz: I'm not sure, I don't know my way around wireless drivers all that well, but for starters you could check exactly what the wireless device is using lspci  and what drivers it is using with maybe lsmod  From that information you could start to search around and/or pastebin it to see if anyone else knows more.
[17:29] <antz> kunji, thank you
[17:30] <BluesKaj> kunji, puleaudio is a sound server that runs on top of alsa and it converts to analog and back to digital , so the volume is controlled in the analog process afaik , hence a digital volume ctrl
[17:31] <dennis8162> im trying to install ubuntu, and get a error: "The attempt to mount a file system with type ext4 inscisi7 (0,0,0), partiton #6 (sdb) at / failed."
[17:31] <kunji> BluesKaj: Oh, hmm, didn't realize they would go through that....  lol, no wonder they can't get low latency with pulse :P  Thanks
[17:31] <BluesKaj> dennis8162, reformat the drive and reinstall , forget the encryption phase
[17:32] <Endafy> hey retard developers, whos bright idea was it to fucking replace Windows loader on my Windows hard drive, when I set my BIOS to boot from my Linux drive while installing it. Way to fucking go you ruined my Windows boot. Seriously learn how to fucking code I should sue you for ruining my computer
[17:32] <dennis8162> i didnt do any encripthion
[17:33] <BluesKaj> kunji, yeah I'm not a pulse fan , but i need it for webaudio , otherwise i could live without pualeaudio
[17:33] <kunji> lol Endafy, didn't even stick around long enough to learn how stupid he is
[17:33] <Espen_> Endafy, the installer finds it easy to mess up if you have plenty of drives.
[17:33] <dennis8162> I got the iso that doesnt include the encrypt system files, and i deleteed the partitions ubuntu made in windows drive manager.
[17:34] <Espen_> lolz and he left :)
[17:34] <kunji> BluesKaj: Hmm, yeah, I get JACK to work, but it's not very stable and certain things go through both.
[17:35] <dennis8162> can anyone help please?
[17:35] <dennis8162> i reformatted it and it still didnt work
[17:36] <BluesKaj> kunji, I can run music , videos even DL'd flv files from my HDD , I can't get alsa to link to flash audio om websites . that's the only reason I use pulse
[17:36] <heripunk> hola
[17:36] <dennis8162> When i made the / partition i set "Logical -10000MB- ext4 journel file system"
[17:37] <kunji> dennis8162: Same error still?  Because that one had me totally stumped.
[17:37] <heripunk> alguien habla español?
[17:37] <dennis8162> yes
[17:37] <dennis8162> im manually making the parttions, and what does that "new partition table" button do?
[17:38] <kunji> BluesKaj: Yeah, I think that's what is going through both for me, goes to pulse first, which is a source for JACK and then to the sink.
[17:38] <BluesKaj> dennis8162, make you/ the primary and make sure it's over 10G
[17:38] <Tex_Nick> !es | heripunk
[17:39] <amasome> hello all idiots
[17:39] <kunji> dennis8162: Oh, you'll want a new partition table, clean drive right?
[17:39] <dennis8162> i set id yo logical
[17:39] <mdh> hi amasome
[17:39] <dennis8162> and i didnt do the partiton table thing
[17:39] <dennis8162> it to**
[17:39] <domato> ciao
[17:39] <heripunk> gracias
[17:39] <domato> !list
[17:39] <amasome> hi mdh masale
[17:39] <BluesKaj> dennis8162, best bto start with a clean and shiny partition table for sure
[17:40] <dennis8162> ok
[17:40] <dennis8162> then make the partitions, do i need the /home one?
[17:41] <kunji> dennis8162: You don't need it, but it can be nice to have
[17:41] <dennis8162> Ah ok, do i have to make them in a certain order?
[17:41] <dennis8162> and can swap be a primary as / is
[17:42]  * BluesKaj wishes the bot would have a factoids in Italian saying  "No matter what the Italian computer magazines tell you (X)Ubuntu are not download sites"
[17:42] <dennis8162> nvm swaps loical
[17:42] <kunji> dennis8162: Doesn't need to be any particular order.  Swap can be primary, any can be either logical or primary, just know that you can only have 4 primary partitions on the drive unless it's using a gpt partition table
[17:42] <AnalogConspiracy> Hello?
[17:42] <dennis8162> ok thanks
[17:43] <dennis8162> one more thing, how big should i set the / partiton
[17:43] <BluesKaj> dennis8162, there is a beleif that / , /home and swap run best with that order . but i can't prove it
[17:44] <dennis8162> ah ok
[17:44] <AnalogConspiracy> I seem to be having a problem with my WiFi adapter, and I was wondering if there was anyone here to assist me.
[17:44] <mdh> AnalogConspiracy: what is the problem
[17:44] <BluesKaj> dennis8162, 15g should suffice for /
[17:44] <dennis8162> ok thanks
[17:44] <harovali> hi, I'm trying to get a Epson Styls TX-230 wireless multifunction printer to Scan. It already prints wirelessly like a charm. There seems to be a link to a driver ihere http://askubuntu.com/questions/147775/installation-of-wifi-epson-sx235w-4in1-printer-scanner-on-ubuntu-12-04-64-b but it's discontinued. Any kind hint ?
[17:45] <dennis8162> will 15000 mb b ok or do i need to add up all the 24's
[17:45] <dennis8162> as 1 gb is 1024
[17:45] <AnalogConspiracy> Mdh: Well, it's a kinda big issue, it'll take a moment to explain, but I'll provide all the information requested. The problem is, I'm trying to use Barnacle with my rooted LG Optimus Elite with Virgin Mobile to connect to the internet. Which is wonderful!
[17:45] <AnalogConspiracy> However, the netgear WNA1100 adapter stops working sometimes. It seems to be at random.
[17:45] <dennis8162> ill go try that
[17:45] <dennis8162> thatnks
[17:45] <dennis8162> thanks*
[17:46] <BluesKaj> dennis8162, 15Kmb is the same as 15G
[17:46] <dennis8162> thanks
[17:46] <mdh> AnalogConspiracy: is that a pci adapter or usb?
[17:46] <AnalogConspiracy> I'm trying to avoid the use of other packages and whatnot, like ndiswrapper (just personal preference)... But I honestly will do anything at this point. It's a USB adapter, mdh.
[17:46] <AnalogConspiracy> I have some logs while it's running... Would you like to see them?
[17:46] <AnalogConspiracy> And I finished taking logs of it while it randomly disconncected, too.
[17:46] <AnalogConspiracy> disconnected ^
[17:47] <mdh> AnalogConspiracy: i really don't know too much about usb network adapters in ubuntu, but i've had a few netgear usb wifi adapters that would quit out on me under windows after they had been running for a while. I almost suspect that they were overheating or something, because they would start working again after i unplugged them for a while
[17:48] <AnalogConspiracy> You see, that's what I'm starting to believe myself. But it doesn't really get hot at all. I wouldn't even use 'lukewarm' as an accurate adjective.
[17:49] <mdh> AnalogConspiracy: what driver are you using with it right now?
[17:49] <AnalogConspiracy> Do you know how I may find out? I may already have the info, but I just want to be sure that I have it.
[17:50] <mdh> AnalogConspiracy: i'm not entirely sure how to check that myself, did it just work when you plugged it in basically?
[17:50] <AnalogConspiracy> Yes.
[17:50] <kunji> AnalogConspiracy: lsusb plz :P, once we know the chipset, then we can start speculating for reals
[17:50] <AnalogConspiracy> Thanks, Kunji. In that case, I do have it. Let me post the results!
[17:50] <kunji> lsmod to see what drivers are loaded
[17:50] <AnalogConspiracy> Bus 001 Device 048: ID 0846:9030 NetGear, Inc. WNA1100 Wireless-N 150 [Atheros AR9271] Bus 001 Device 004: ID 0bda:0151 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. Mass Storage Device (Multicard Reader) Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[17:50] <AnalogConspiracy> lsmod coming up.
[17:51] <OerHeks> Some wireless adapters have power management problems, for some of them it helps turning managment off >>  http://askubuntu.com/a/162547
[17:51] <AnalogConspiracy> Module                  Size  Used by bnep                   18140  2  rfcomm                 46619  0  bluetooth             209199  10 bnep,rfcomm parport_pc             32688  0  ppdev                  17073  0  arc4                   12529  2  ath9k_htc              91402  0  snd_hda_codec_realtek    77876  1  mac80211              539908  1 ath9k_htc nouveau               895609  3  ath9k_common           14055  1 ath9k_h
[17:51] <AnalogConspiracy> Err. Oops.
[17:51] <AnalogConspiracy> I seem to be having an issue pasting it, but it's ath/htc stuff.
[17:52] <kunji> AnalogConspiracy: Hmm, T.T  I don't know about any problems with that one, atheros chips usually play nice.  Maybe look into OerHeks suggestion.
[17:52] <sonOfRa> i created /dev/mapper entry with kpartx, now I'm trying to remove it again with kpartx -d, but it won't go away. any suggestions?
[17:53] <AnalogConspiracy> I heard good things about them, too. I'm kinda discouraged. I've had great success a couple years back when I was trying to make other modems work. I'd write articles for them, because they didn't get much support. Like the Novatel USB727 modem, and whatnot.
[17:53] <AnalogConspiracy> But I'll definitely try that suggestion.
[17:53] <ronalds_m> how to purge repositorie?
[17:53] <OerHeks> atheros 9 > echo "options ath9k nohwcrypt=1" | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/ath9k.conf > /dev/null
[17:54] <ronalds_m> I want to remove kubuntu backports and all the packages with it
[17:54] <wdennis> Hi all - what do I need to do to get my custom-compiled libvirtd daemon to start on boot? (i.e. how to add a program to start on boot)
[17:54] <OerHeks> !purge-ppa | ronalds_m
[17:54] <linkov> OerHeks: Error: "purge-ppa" is not a valid command.
[17:54] <AnalogConspiracy> May I have an explanation of what that will do, OerHeks?
[17:54] <OerHeks> !ppa-purge | ronalds_m
[17:54] <linkov> OerHeks: Error: "ppa-purge" is not a valid command.
[17:54] <MonkeyDust> ronalds_m  system settings software sources
[17:54] <OerHeks> duhh
[17:54] <bloouup> wtf
[17:54] <bloouup> sorry guys
[17:54] <bloouup> !part linkov
[17:54] <MonkeyDust> ronalds_m  system settings > software sources (in 12.10)
[17:54] <ronalds_m> if I just remove the source
[17:54] <ronalds_m> it will do the change?
[17:55] <ronalds_m> ofcourse after update
[17:55] <kunji> ronalds_m: I think you really want to go with ppa-purge
[17:55] <OerHeks> AnalogConspiracy, disabling hwcrypt, that could be the 2nd reason for falling wireless connection
[17:55] <genii-around> !ppa-purge quantal
[17:55] <genii-around> meh
[17:56] <Pici> !info ppa-purge
[17:56] <AnalogConspiracy> Thank you. Would you please answer what hwcrypt is? Lol, I used to know a little bit about Ubuntu, But it's been about a year since I touched a computer.
[17:56] <ronalds_m>  sudo ppa-purge ppa:http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu
[17:56] <ronalds_m> gives
[17:56] <genii-around> Pici: Trying to remember what repo :)
[17:56] <ronalds_m> Warning:  Could not find package list for PPA:
[17:56] <BluesKaj> ronalds_m, alt+f2  , gksudo nautilus /etc/apt/sources.list.d , remove the ppa(s)
[17:57] <OerHeks> AnalogConspiracy, hwcrypt is hardwareencryption, vensor specific for atheros. not supported on every router.
[17:57] <OerHeks> vensor-vendor*
[17:57] <AnalogConspiracy> Ahhhhh, I see.
[17:57] <ronalds_m> just removing from sources will not remove software BluesKaj?
[17:57] <AnalogConspiracy> Do I need to restart my computer or maybe restart udev services for this to work?
[17:58] <BluesKaj> oh , i thought youwere jst trying to remove the ppas, ronalds_m
[17:58] <OerHeks> AnalogConspiracy, no, just disable wifi and turn it back on again
[17:58] <AnalogConspiracy> Will do. I'll likely have to reconnect to the chatroom though. I'll be right back!
[17:59] <z2s8> Hi I have login problem with Ubuntu one what can I do?
[17:59] <AnalogConspiracy> I'm back!
[18:00] <BluesKaj> ronalds_m, which kubuntu packages .. the whole desktop and kde or what ?
[18:00] <ronalds_m> kde as a whole, without some programms
[18:00] <ronalds_m> maybe I should keep it
[18:00] <AnalogConspiracy> Thank you, by the way. This seems to have worked so far. :)
[18:00] <melik_> Drives : 157   Total Capacity : 326.0T
[18:01] <OerHeks> AnalogConspiracy, we'll see after a minute or so, if wifi range drops
[18:01]  * AnalogConspiracy nods.
[18:01] <AnalogConspiracy> Hehe.
[18:01] <ronalds_m> what you usually do if everything stutters like dead
[18:02] <javiasa> hello. ubuntu have my wireless in power-save, it says ath: phy0: TX while HW is in FULL_SLEEP mode. how can I change it? sorry for my bad english
[18:02] <BluesKaj> ronalds_m, if you want to search for files/folders use alt +f2 for read only , use kdesudo dolphin /path/to/file to edit them
[18:02] <ronalds_m> I kinda have this problem sometimes with steam running , updates running behind and for some reason virtual machine :D
[18:02] <ronalds_m> tty is kinda choice but k and giving id of app doesn't do anything
[18:03]  * BluesKaj shrugs
[18:03] <AnalogConspiracy> It's best to throw some more information. Like your driver, chipset, etc, etc. If you don't know the commands, someone can help you.
[18:03] <StephenS> How can I find driver for my graphic card sapphire hd 6570  on linux 12?
[18:03] <ronalds_m> so what kinda vodoo is there for complete lagg, cause I want to restart just the apps, without restarting pc
[18:03] <mojtaba> Does anybody know how can I hibernate the laptop when the power is critically low? Because When I want to change it, it is gray out and just shutdown is activated.
[18:04] <BluesKaj> StephenS, ubuntu 12.10 ?
[18:04] <javiasa> please help, ubuntu has my wireless in power-save and I can't use internet right. ath: phy0: TX while HW is in FULL_SLEEP mode
[18:04] <ronalds_m> mojtaba, it will not be long running even in hibernate if power is low
[18:05] <AnalogConspiracy> javiasa: We don't know what your driver is, chipset, or anything. I'm just gonna throw a suggestion, try sudo rfkill unblock all
[18:05] <StephenS> BLZbubba, yes
[18:05] <StephenS> BlueEagle, *
[18:05] <mojtaba> ronalds_m: I had this option before, till I accidentally changed it to shutdown.
[18:05] <StephenS> BluesKaj, **
[18:05] <mojtaba> ronalds_m: Now when I want to make it back, it is grayed out
[18:05] <ronalds_m> try sudo that programm with terminal
[18:05] <kunji> ronalds_m: trying to kill a process?  Use top to find likely culprits, use ps ax | grep name to find the pid for the offendor, use kill -9 <pid> to kill it for sure.  Now that won't help with restarting the program though in the case where the offending program is something needed for the desktop.
[18:06] <AnalogConspiracy> Javiasa: Actually, someone here gave me a link to power management. Read this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/162524/wireless-card-power-management/162547#162547
[18:06] <ronalds_m> kill -9?
[18:06] <ronalds_m> why -9?
[18:07] <AnalogConspiracy> Welcome back, mdh.
[18:07] <kunji> ronalds_m: -9 is the best way to make it really die, it doesn't play nice the way a kill request otherwise does.
[18:07] <ronalds_m> oh ok
[18:07] <mdh> hi
[18:07] <ronalds_m> I see, cause it doesnt killed anything on request
[18:08] <kunji> ronalds_m: man kill should have more details
[18:08] <ronalds_m> I will probably forget about this options in next time..
[18:08] <ronalds_m> man yes..
[18:08] <ronalds_m> tnx
[18:08] <mojtaba> Does anybody know how can I hibernate the laptop when the power is critically low? Because When I want to change it, it is gray out and just shutdown is activated.
[18:08] <iceroot> ronalds_m: -9 is not good
[18:09] <BluesKaj> StephenS, alt+F2 type or copy and paste ,  additional drivers
[18:09] <iceroot> ronalds_m: it will kill everything and the program does not have time to unlock files, close sockets and so on, if a program needs -9 normally its a bad program
[18:09] <ronalds_m> steam is good programm
[18:09] <kunji> ronalds_m: as iceroot says though, -9 isn't good for the same reason it always works... it doesn't play nice, so try killing without it first
[18:09] <oldude67> running lubuntu 12.10 with hard drive running lvm, how long should it normally take for a 80 gig hard drive to fsck and repair broken packages threw the grub menu under recovery?
[18:09] <AcidRain> can anyone help me out. as soon as i boot my ubuntu computer, it passes the splash screen then i get a no signal! the issue occured when the xsessions-error.log was 50gig. i managed to delete the file before i restarted. any solutions?
[18:10] <StephenS> BluesKaj, what to search for?
[18:10] <AcidRain> can anyone help me out. as soon as i boot my ubuntu computer, it passes the splash screen then i get a no signal! the issue occured when the xsessions-error.log was 50gig. i managed to delete the file before i restarted. any solutions?
[18:10] <AcidRain> sry for double post
[18:10] <javiasa> AnalogConspiracy: thanks, it dont work. it is a samsung n130 with a chipset Intel 945GSE + ICH7M
[18:10] <BluesKaj> StephenS, additional drivers , the ati drivers should show up in a dialog
[18:11] <AcidRain> anyone to help me out here?
[18:12] <BluesKaj> !additional drivers | StephenS
[18:12] <StephenS> BluesKaj, nothing showed up
[18:12] <excito> could somebody please help me get the original ambiance theme back with all the icons? I think I accidentaly deleted something while trying to set up themes - http://i.imgur.com/mWmoekG.png
[18:12] <StephenS> also bot doesnt pm me either
[18:12] <StephenS> maybe I already have drivers installed with auto update? How can I check if I have installed it already?
[18:12] <AcidRain> my ubuntu computer wont boot
[18:12] <BluesKaj> yeah the bot doesn't have that factoid anymore
[18:13] <AcidRain> how can i boot into command console and try to remove gnome2 and reinstall it?
[18:13] <oldude67> AcidRain, can you get into recovery mode in grub?
[18:13] <AcidRain> oldude67, im not rly sure how to do that?
[18:13] <StephenS> eh Graphics driver: Unknown
[18:13] <StephenS> I just bought new graphic card today
[18:13] <oldude67> AcidRain, do you see a grub menu when you boot?
[18:13] <AcidRain> oldude67, lol ya
[18:14] <BluesKaj> StephenS,  type jockey in the run command search (alt+f2)
[18:14] <oldude67> AcidRain, then got advanced user and then to recovery mode
[18:14] <AcidRain> oldude67, then what?
[18:14] <StephenS> BluesKaj, nothing
[18:14] <oldude67> AcidRain, it has an option to boot in to base line
[18:14] <StephenS> now I have two searches in historu showing :(
[18:14] <StephenS> history*
[18:14] <excito> How to get back the original theme and icons for ubuntu? I accidentaly deleted something and only have high contrast theme in appearance settings?
[18:15] <kunji> StephenS: Additional Drivers has been moved to Software Sources, it's a tab there now
[18:15] <excito> here's the problematic image of the current theme and no ambiance original theme - http://i.imgur.com/mWmoekG.png
[18:15] <BluesKaj> kunji, yeah but it should show up in the run command ?
[18:15] <trism> excito: make sure light-themes is installed
[18:16] <excito> trism, how does one go about doing that?
[18:16] <StephenS> ok Im in that
[18:16] <kunji> BluesKaj: Software Sources should, I believe Additional Drivers does not.
[18:16] <StephenS> now what?
[18:16] <BluesKaj> kunji, not good
[18:16] <trism> excito: sudo apt-get install light-themes; in a terminal
[18:16] <StephenS> It says Im using x.0rg ATI/
[18:17] <StephenS> AMD/ATI display wrapper
[18:17] <StephenS> from xserver-xorg
[18:17] <qwebirc739989> Testing.
[18:17] <StephenS> does this mean I have druver? If so, why it says in about info that I dont have?
[18:17] <AcidRain> worse linux idea ever: append logs to xsessions-errors.log
[18:17] <excito> perfect. Thank you very much trism
[18:17] <kunji> BluesKaj: Yeah.. there wasn't really any legacy support on that, one day it was just like that all of a sudden T.T
[18:18] <excito> trism: everything works/looks perfect now. Thanks once more
[18:18] <BluesKaj> time to realign and resync the factoids
[18:19] <Cenerentolo> hi all, how can i block hated sites from google research on firefox?
[18:20] <kunji> Cenerentolo: I don't think you can stop them from showing up in the search, you mean block following the links?
[18:21] <Cenerentolo> I mean, are there some options to have a personal block list for my research on google using firefox?
[18:22] <BluesKaj> !info jockey-gtk
[18:22] <AcidRain> oldude67, im in the grub prompt
[18:22] <AcidRain> this doesnt look like a recovery promot
[18:23] <oldude67> AcidRain, in the grub menu it has an advanced user mode, in it it has a recovery mode.
[18:24] <AcidRain> oldude67, ok got it. im reparing project packages
[18:25] <Dennis8162> Me again
[18:26] <Dennis8162> IT stil wont work :(
[18:26] <Dennis8162> i did everything you said
[18:26] <gordon_> how do i set quassel back to its default?
[18:27] <Rawad> hi
[18:28] <AcidRain> when trying to login through console. i have a scrolling error saying: unable to enumerate usb device on port 2
[18:28] <AcidRain> how do i fix this so i can login >_>
[18:28] <AcidRain> its typing over my username and password
[18:28] <Dennis8162> Heres the error i get: http://www5.picturepush.com/photo/a/12296728/img/Images/270213-1813.jpg
[18:29] <llutz> AcidRain: just type blindly and login
[18:29] <Azure_> guys
[18:29] <Azure_> i need help
[18:29] <AcidRain> llutz, cool man it worked
[18:29] <Azure_> one of my friends wants windows back
[18:30] <Dennis8162> why isnt it working :(
[18:30] <Azure_> he had linux before, he has swap, /, and his DATA partition
[18:30] <AcidRain> one more thing. how do i start the x server?
[18:30] <Azure_> he wanted to install windows but he wasn?t able to delete the swap partition
[18:30] <Azure_> so he wanted me to ask
[18:30] <Azure_> how to delete a linux-swap partition?
[18:31] <AcidRain> startx, when using this command. i get error: failed to activate core devices
[18:32] <kunji> Azure_: Boot from a livecd and use gparted, if he want's to use the space for his windows partition though, then he'll need to resize the windows partition, so he should make a full backup before doing that to be safe.
[18:32] <Pici> Azure_: if for some reason the windows installer won't delete it, you can load up an Ubuntu live-cd, and use gparted from there to manage your partitions
[18:32] <BluesKaj> Azure_, with a partitoner app or live cd , delete the swap , the expand the preceding partition into the freeapce where swap used to be
[18:33] <Dennis8162> help,,, please???
[18:33] <oldude67> AcidRain, you are in recovery mode, try rebooting
[18:33] <Azure_> there is no windows partition currently
[18:33] <Azure_> only unallocated space, swap and his DATA drive
[18:33] <gordon_> i have a video bug where there is a blur line 3/4 of the way up the screen
[18:33] <AcidRain> oldude67, i just dont know what to do man
[18:33] <BluesKaj> Dennis8162, have you run a md5 sum on your ubuntu OS image ?
[18:33] <oldude67> type reboot
[18:34] <AcidRain> oldude67, im rebooting. but all of this is scary. how am i going to get my files back when all fails?
[18:34] <AcidRain> i run like.... 15 servers. all of which are very important to me
[18:34] <Dennis8162> whats a md5sum?
[18:34] <kunji> Azure_: Ok, then expanding isn't needed, that space will just be all set for windows to use when installing after using gparted to delete the swap
[18:34] <Azure_> kunji
[18:34] <BluesKaj> !md5sum
[18:34] <Azure_> ok
[18:34] <Azure_> thanks
[18:34] <Azure_> downloaded gparted and burning it
[18:35] <Azure_> thanks god i brought my notebook to him
[18:36] <Bray90820> so is there  a way to tur off the onscreen eybord when using a physical one
[18:36] <AcidRain> Dennis8162, to be more precise. and md5sum is a hash of a certain data block used to check the integrity of a download by re md5 hashing it and comparing the 2 hashes against each other
[18:36] <AnalogConspiracy> OerHeks, it didn't work. :(
[18:36] <Dennis8162> ok
[18:36] <gordon_> is there a way to tell if my computer parts (video card, SSD, etc) are supported by ubuntu ?
[18:37] <zAo^> How can I adjust the screen brightness in xfce?
[18:37] <Azure_> kanji, thanks for help
[18:37] <Dennis8162> g2g
[18:37] <Azure_> *kunji
[18:37] <AcidRain> oldude67, http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?s=8a835738043db1e30fb949e120c9b77c&p=8621525&postcount=10 this is very similar to my issue
[18:37] <AnalogConspiracy> I was wondering if maybe someone could help me try tethering my phone to the computer and using the internet that way? My phone is rooted, it's an LG Optimus Elite from Virgin Mobile, and I'd like to use easytether to connect to the internet.
[18:37] <Azure_> my friend says he tried to delete the partition before from a linux cd but it wasn?t visible
[18:38] <Azure_> he said it looked just as unallocated space
[18:38] <zAo^> AnalogConspiracy: why not use Wifi tethering?
[18:38] <AnalogConspiracy> My WiFi USB adapter is still not working. It randomly stops.
[18:39] <kunji> Azure_: Sounds like it's already deleted then.
[18:39] <oldude67> AcidRain, that post says the person is out of hard drive space, is that your issue as well?\
[18:39] <AnalogConspiracy> I've never seen or even heard of problems like this before. But give me one moment.
[18:39] <AcidRain> oldude67, actually its very possible
[18:39] <AcidRain> oldude67, my issue is that the xsessions-error.log file got up to 60gig ish.
[18:39] <Azure_> kunji, when we load the windows setup, it is there
[18:39] <AnalogConspiracy> Bus 001 Device 009: ID 0846:9030 NetGear, Inc. WNA1100 Wireless-N 150 [Atheros AR9271] Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0bda:0151 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. Mass Storage Device (Multicard Reader) Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[18:39] <AnalogConspiracy> Here's the lsusb for my WiFi Adapter. It's a NetGear WNA1100 N-150 Wireless Adapter.
[18:39] <oldude67> AcidRain, well then you need to go back into recovery mode and try freeing up some disk space.
[18:39] <AcidRain> oldude67, i deleted the file, but then when i restarted, i am approached with this issue
[18:40] <kunji> AnalogConspiracy: I've seen and heard of them.. only conclusion I could draw though was faulty hardware T.T in my cases.
[18:40] <AcidRain> oldude67, so your saying its possible the file didnt delete?
[18:40] <AnalogConspiracy> kunji: :'(
[18:40] <kunji> Azure_: Are you sure gparted doesn't see it then?
[18:40] <oldude67> AcidRain, check your disk space.
[18:40] <Azure_> kunji, he did not use gparted
[18:40] <HappyNewYear13> what's the name of that device similar to a calculator where some worker from an x company goes house by house to register data, but insead of anotating on a paper he/she registers it there, and you can write a digital signature too. it's like a pocket pc but with many buttons like a calculator. what's its name?
[18:40] <Azure_> alright, we booted gparted up
[18:41] <Azure_> we don?t understand those keycap settings
[18:41] <AcidRain> oldude67, ok. trying to get into recovery now. it takes like 20min to get there :/
[18:41] <Azure_> keymap
[18:41] <kunji> Azure_: keymap?  Just go with something that looks standard, if there's a default value it's probably fine
[18:42] <sssdf> do i need to reconnect in order to use vpn ?
[18:42] <oldude67> AcidRain, sorry for the mishap, didnt realize you might be out of space.
[18:42] <gordon_> i have a video problem is this the right channel to ask for help ?
[18:42] <AcidRain> oldude67, its cool man! thanks for your help! i hope we can get this figured out
[18:42] <kunji> Azure_: Oh.. you're using the gparted specific livecd, I actually haven't used that before, I use the Ubuntu LiveCD which happens to have gparted on it.  That should work pretty much the same way though.
[18:42] <oldude67> AcidRain, have to leave for now, just ask in room others can help as well.
[18:43] <Azure_> well, ubuntu isn?t light anymore
[18:43] <sssdf> i mean if i set up a vpn right now do i need to restart the connection in order to connect to vpn ?
[18:43] <AcidRain> lol. no they cant
[18:43] <AcidRain> :P
[18:43] <Azure_> gparted sees it!
[18:43] <AnalogConspiracy> So yeah, anyways. I'd like to try usb tethering, but I don't know anything about it. Easytether seems to be the easiest option. And I know it will work. When I do try to connect, I see the two green lights when it tries to connect. Meaning, I think I'm already close to establishing a connection. I can't figure out why it won't though.
[18:44] <MonkeyDust> AcidRain  I haven't followed, but repeat your question every 10 minutes or so, until someone enters who can help -- in 1 line
[18:44] <sssdf> anyone ?
[18:44] <kunji> Azure_: good, I don't think it's mounted, so just right click and delete, then the green checkmark to apply the changes.
[18:44] <kunji> Azure_: If it when ahead and used it, then you'll need to right click -> swapoff first.
[18:44] <AcidRain> MonkeyDust, issue is currently: im out of disk space. and i am trying to get into recovery mode to attempt to delete some
[18:45] <wdennis> Hi all - what do I need to do to get my custom-compiled libvirtd daemon to start on boot? (i.e. how to add a program to start on boot)
[18:46] <Azure_> kunji, now i see why we weren't able to delete it, the swap was deleted but fell under /dev/sda1 so it became extended
[18:46] <Azure_> oh man
[18:46] <kunji> wdennis: I want to say rc.local
[18:46] <MonkeyDust> AcidRain  is this useful http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2198752/adding-a-start-up-via-command-line-ubuntu
[18:46] <Azure_> i think there is no possible way to move it out from /dev/sda1?
[18:47] <wdennis> kunji: thought about that, but is there a way to add it into /etc/init.d like the other services?
[18:47] <gordon_> i am new to ubuntu is this the right channel to ask about technical problems ?
[18:47] <AcidRain> MonkeyDust, no not rly :/
[18:47] <kunji> Azure_: Hmm, are both that and the data partition in the same logical partition?
[18:48] <kunji> gordon_: yep, right place
[18:48] <Azure_> yes
[18:48] <MonkeyDust> AcidRain  or this: scroll down to rc.local http://linux.bihlman.com/2010/learn-linux-help/running-commands-at-startup-in-debian-and-ubuntu-the-simplest-approach/
[18:48] <Azure_> and the soon-to-be windows partition is just in sda
[18:48] <Azure_> before linux, only the data was logical
[18:48] <dn4> where does my usb hdd show up at in ubuntu
[18:49] <sssdf> places
[18:49] <kunji> Azure_: Ok, so then I guess you would probably want to delete the swap, then resize the logical to move it over so the start corresponds with the start of the data partition.
[18:49] <Azure_> well, he told me that he didn?t want linux anymore cause he didn?t like the look
[18:49] <gordon_> under system settings / details graphics says unknown and i have a video glitch where there is a blur line from the left side of my screen all the way to the right side of the screen which only happens when i scroll up or down
[18:50] <Spine> Anyone know how to get to the cmd+shift apple keys on ubuntu?
[18:50] <Spine> I really need squiggly () and brackets
[18:50] <Azure_> kunji, the swap is already deleted
[18:50] <Azure_> it is now ?unallocated? under dev/sda1
[18:50] <Azure_> and i need to move that unallocated to dev/sda
[18:50] <gordon_> i tried all the ubuntu restricted and updated the system
[18:51] <Azure_> if someone can upload a picture or a really detailed manual, please do so
[18:51] <Guest7041> I have wirelles problem... When i try to turn it on, netbook just restarts.. im using ubuntu 12.04
[18:51] <gordon_> is there a way to get the right graphics drivers ?
[18:51] <kunji> Azure_: Well, you don't move it to /dev/sda... /dev/sda just refers to the entire drive
[18:51] <Azure_> kunji, sorry i am a linux noob
[18:52] <kunji> Azure_: So basically /dev/sd<x>  are devices, in this case it's a hard drive.  Then numbers are used to enumerate partitions.  Basically what you want here is one partition that has your data, and everything else to be unallocated.
[18:53] <Azure_> exactly
[18:54] <Guest7041> I have wirelles problem... When i try to turn it on, netbook just restarts.. im using ubuntu 12.04
[18:55] <kunji> Azure_: So delete anything that's not the data partition, and not the logical partition that contains the data partition.  Then right click the logical partition (the extra colored border) and select resize/move and resize it so it just contains the data partition.
[18:55] <StephenS> Hey
[18:55] <StephenS> I lost connection, anyway when I do ssh to some server I have password delay
[18:56] <StephenS> I tried everything, installed sshd, and then put UseDNS no in sshd_config and restart ssh, which not helped
[18:56] <StephenS> I re-logged as user, and still the same error, I put gasp to no and still nothing
[18:56] <StephenS> I'm clueless what to do else..
[18:56] <StephenS> That password delay prompt is a tricky one dunno what to do
[18:56] <ajacom> i made a mistake and typed sudo chmod 777 /lib ... how can I restore its permissions ?
[18:56] <kunji> Azure_: hmm, is there a way you can post a screenshot somewhere, it would help me see exactly how things are layed out
[18:57] <LS\MFT> One question, does indicator-weather work again?
[18:57] <LS\MFT> I thought it didn't work.
[18:57] <jrib> ajacom: change it back to 755
[18:57] <ajacom> jrib, thanks
[18:57] <Azure_> kunji, no way to post a screenshot
[18:57] <AcidRain> ok all. i am in recovery mode. how can i locate the xsession-error.log file. im not seeing it inside of /var/log
[18:57] <AcidRain> any advice?
[18:57] <bekks> ajacom: Did you use -R ?
[18:57] <jrib> StephenS: did you restart the server after making changes to your sshd_config?
[18:57] <Azure_> i can just make a pastebin pastie that shows the partitions
[18:57] <k3ks> Hey, I've got a problem with my network connection, every 5min or so all TCP connections drop
[18:58] <llutz> AcidRain: /home/username/.xsession-errors
[18:58] <kunji> Azure_: Sure, that would help I thijnk
[18:58] <Bray90820> is there a way to turn off the onsceen keybored from the menubar
[18:58] <k3ks> Has anybody an idea where to start looking for the source of the problem?
[18:58] <StephenS> jrib, yes I did, sudo service ssh restart after I edited ssh/sshd_config
[18:58] <StephenS> it did not helped
[18:58] <jrib> StephenS: what ubuntu version?
[18:58] <StephenS> 12.1
[18:58] <StephenS> 10
[18:58] <AcidRain> llutz, its not located there either
[18:58] <jrib> StephenS: can you pastebin your current sshd_config?
[18:58] <HeXiLeD> how do i get iperf to run as system service on ubuntu ?
[18:58] <StephenS> !paste
[18:58] <HeXiLeD> manuelly it is iperf -s -D
[18:59] <AcidRain> how can i view files from command line that are hidden?
[18:59] <HeXiLeD> *manually
[18:59] <AcidRain> i did sudo dir
[18:59] <Guest7041> I have wirelles problem... When i try to turn it on, netbook just restarts.. im using ubuntu 12.04
[18:59] <llutz> AcidRain: ls -la /home/username/.xsession-errors
[18:59] <ajacom> bekks, nope
[18:59] <ajacom> sudo
[18:59] <StephenS> jrib, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5571331/
[19:00] <AcidRain> llutz, ok. i see the file. and i deleted it using rm .xsessios-errors.log
[19:00] <AcidRain> but when i execute df command. it says still 100%
[19:00] <StephenS> I have GSSAPIAuthentication set to no
[19:00] <newroad> hmmmm
[19:00] <StephenS> and UseDNS to no, other is by default.
[19:00] <StephenS> Do I need to restart PC? :D
[19:01] <diverdude> How do i search in man files?
[19:01] <Pici> diverdude: within a particular one?
[19:01] <newroad> what would cause my virtualbox icon to stop working? when I double click the icon, the app never loads. But if I open virtualbox via command line, it works fine?
[19:01] <diverdude> Pici,  i want to find -g inside man g++
[19:01] <Pici> diverdude: type /-g   and then press enter
[19:01] <llutz> diverdude:  /-g
[19:02] <Pici> diverdude: press n to go to the next match
[19:02] <AcidRain> llutz, after this. i did rm -rf ~/.Trash/*. still 100% full
[19:02] <Guest7041> I have wirelles problem... When i try to turn it on, netbook just restarts.. im using ubuntu 12.04
[19:02] <diverdude> thx
[19:03] <llutz> AcidRain: you did that as root? ~ refers to /root then, maybe not what you want
[19:03] <Bray90820> is there a way to turn off the onsceen keybored from the menu bar
[19:03] <Azure_> kunji
[19:03] <Azure_> http://pastebin.com/Hn3BMJ59
[19:03] <stacky> is there any problem in graphics compatibility of HP-dv6 with ubuntu 12.10 ?
[19:03] <StephenS> jrib, what to do?
[19:04] <goodtime> Bray90820: you turn it off with you display in system settings
[19:04] <jrib> StephenS: try disabling gssapi authentication client-side (in ssh_config and not sshd_config)
[19:04] <goodtime> your*
[19:04] <jrib> StephenS: there's lots of discussion here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openssh/+bug/84899
[19:05] <kunji> Azure_: Ok, yeah, you'll want to resize /dev/sda1, there should be unallocated space at the start of it, so you can shrink it to start at the same place as /dev/sda5
[19:05] <AcidRain> llutz, the only thing located in my trash folder are a few small files.
[19:05] <AcidRain> i dont think the xsession-errors.log file deleted, even though it said it did
[19:05] <Azure_> ok
[19:06] <llutz> AcidRain: "ls -lah /home/username/.xsession-errors   " to check, and DON't remove that file, while X is running...
[19:06] <Bray90820> goodtime i know that but i was wondering if there way a way to quickly just turn it on an off when switch from from my on schreen to my phisical keybored
[19:06] <Bray90820> physical
[19:06] <kunji> Azure_: So there's the rectangle for /dev/sda5, and a bigger one around it for /dev/sda1, right click the bigger one and choose resize/move
[19:06] <newroad> what would cause my virtualbox icon to stop working? when I double click the icon, the app never loads. But if I open virtualbox via command line, it works fine?
[19:06] <goodtime> oic
[19:07] <AcidRain> llutz, no such file or directory
[19:07] <AcidRain> llutz, im in the console right now. no gui
[19:07] <StephenS> jrib, I have read a lot on google about problem and still not working ill try to edit ssh
[19:07] <AcidRain> x wont boot cause of no disk space
[19:07] <kunji> Azure_: There should be a rectangle with arrows on the end, grab the left one and drag it as far to the right as it will go.
[19:07] <kunji> *ends
[19:07] <llutz> AcidRain: ln -s /dev/null /home/username/.xsession-errors                 then reboot
[19:08] <AcidRain> llutz, do i need to include the file ext
[19:08] <AcidRain> ?
[19:08] <AcidRain> its .log
[19:09] <Azure_> it worked kunji
[19:09] <Azure_> you are the best!
[19:09] <llutz> AcidRain: xsession-errors.log? odd filename
[19:09] <Bray90820> goodtime do you know of any way to do what i want
[19:09] <kunji> Azure_: ^_^
[19:09] <AcidRain> llutz, wat is odd about that? :/
[19:09] <Azure_> kunji, one last question, are those 2MB at end normal? (see the pastie)
[19:09] <AcidRain> oh wait. your right ^_^ nvm. sry
[19:09] <llutz> AcidRain: because the file usually is .xsession-errors
[19:10] <AcidRain> llutz, ok man. rebooting. lets see if this works
[19:10] <AcidRain> llutz, seems to be doing better than normal
[19:10] <kunji> Azure_: They're fairly normal, you'll get them depending on how alignment is done for the partitions.  I wouldn't bother moving the partition to get that space.
[19:10] <Azure_> ok
[19:10] <AcidRain> llutz, it even mounted drives properly this time :D
[19:10] <AcidRain> !!!!
[19:11] <Azure_> so i guess now i should click the green Apply icon
[19:11] <Azure_> right?
[19:11] <AcidRain> BAM! way to pull me llutz im at the gnome desktop
[19:11] <kunji> Azure_: yep
[19:11] <AcidRain> though my disk is still at 100%!
[19:12] <llutz> AcidRain: find ~ -type f -size +10000000
[19:12] <Azure_> kunji, now i can close it, reboot and install windows?
[19:12] <llutz> AcidRain: find ~ -type f -size +1G (easier than counting zeros)
[19:12] <goodtime> bah
[19:12] <kunji> Azure_: Yep, should be all set
[19:13] <Guest7041> I have wirelles problem... When i try to turn it on, netbook just restarts.. im using ubuntu 12.04
[19:13] <StephenS> kunji,
[19:13] <AcidRain> llutz, there is 1 file that i have downloaded that is bigger than 1 gig
[19:13] <AcidRain> llutz, it appears ubuntu is reading the disk space incorrectly
[19:13] <AnalogConspiracy> Can someone please help me tether my phone with easytether?
[19:14] <kunji> StephenS: ?
[19:14] <Guest7041> can anyone at least try to help me...
[19:14] <AcidRain> llutz, i can create files.... but im at 100%
[19:14] <Pici> AnalogConspiracy: What does that have to do with Ubuntu?
[19:14] <AnalogConspiracy> It's not connecting to it.
[19:14] <AnalogConspiracy> I have the internet because of WiFi tethering, but I'd really like to have a wired connection.
[19:15] <maitake> oh my god.. just having a gnome 3 moment here.
[19:15] <maitake> i love ubuntu so much [/emo]
[19:16] <BillyZane2> rly
[19:16] <BillyZane2> is gnome3 that good?
[19:16] <goodtime> Guest7041: see if your wierless ia activated in your network dir.
[19:16] <BillyZane2> i heard gnome 2 was filled fixed, so they had nothing to do but break it with gnome 3. maybe that was a joke
[19:16] <goodtime> oops wierless*
[19:16] <goodtime> lol
[19:16] <goodtime> wireless*
[19:17] <goodtime> goodgreif
[19:17] <Guest7041> goodtime im new to ubuntu so you must be more precise... where to find network dir
[19:17] <goodtime> you might have to activate it
[19:18] <thebishop> the ubuntu backup utility bugged me today, so i decided to use it.  hey, it's pretty good!
[19:18] <AcidRain> llutz, disk usage analyzer says that none of my drives are even close to being 30% full. yet df command shows drives at 100%
[19:18] <AcidRain> llutz, or rather, my main internal drive
[19:18] <Azure_> windows is installing
[19:18] <Azure_> thank you for helping kunji
[19:18] <Azure_> i am sorry for all linux-guys that i am installing windows but that is on friends computer
[19:19] <Azure_> i use linux myself :D
[19:19] <dfx> hello guys can someone check this and tell me if my hd is dead cus i cant formate it http://pastie.org/6349300#20
[19:19] <Azure_> i am just not a in-windows-linux-partition-expert :P
[19:20] <Guest7041> goodtime: where is network dir...? im new to ubuntu so i have hard time
[19:20] <jtoy> what is teh recommended way toget java autoamted  on ubuntu? this doesnt seem to wokr: https://github.com/flexiondotorg/oab-java6
[19:20] <jtoy> mine dies wiht [x] Downloading jdk-6u41-linux-i586.bin :    http://: Invalid host name.
[19:20] <AcidRain> how can i make ubuntu recalculate the disk space being used?
[19:20] <goodtime> hang on Guest7041
[19:21] <BrainBug[BE]> Hello, I've got a question. I Had some problems with the tg3 driver (wired network broadcom), as I was troubleshooting I saw that the lsmod of tg3 was 0 in 'used by'. Now everything is working with the tg3 driver but still shows up as 0, why is this happening, shouldn't it be 1 (for my wired network)?
[19:21] <codephobic> hi
[19:21] <goodtime> Guest7041:  what distro are you useing
[19:21] <Guest7041> ubuntu 12.04
[19:21] <codephobic> what's the best way to remote desktop into a debian squeeze machine from ubuntu 12.10?
[19:21] <goodtime> ok
[19:22] <captain_cook> hi, is there a programm for linux mint or ubuntu that broadcast football game streams?
[19:23] <goodtime> goto your ubuntu tab at the top of your tab will be a ubuntu logo
[19:23] <goodtime> left click it and then there should be a search engine
[19:23] <goodtime> type network
[19:23] <AcidRain> im currently running bleachbit as root
[19:24] <AcidRain> i dont think this will fix ubuntu reading bad disk space
[19:24] <goodtime> there should be a folder "networks
[19:24] <purefusion> how do I scroll the CLI scrollback when running Ubuntu Server?
[19:24] <na__> problem with sound, abruptly stops in flash while video continues to work fine.
[19:24] <Pici> purefusion: shift-pageup generally
[19:24] <gigabot> on my mac its command up
[19:24] <gigabot> lol
[19:24] <gordon_> its been 30 minutes since i asked a question. is this common ? do i need to repost my question and how long should i wait? or do i need to come back another time?
[19:24] <BrainBug[BE]> AcidRain, I'm no expert, but you did not set quota right (quota -v )?
[19:24] <Guest7041> netngood NetworkManager?
[19:25] <goodtime> go into that folder and there you should be able to enable it.
[19:25] <na__> it is reported at launchpad.net
[19:25] <purefusion> gigabot: I'm running it on a Mac, but only in Parallels, and Cmd+Up doesn't work for me
[19:25] <AcidRain> BrainBug[BE], i dont know anything about a quota
[19:25] <na__> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/1133132
[19:26] <BrainBug[BE]> AcidRain, try quota -v to see if it says something like "x quota usage been used"
[19:26] <Guest7041> goodtime: to edit NetworkManager.state?
[19:26] <na__> anyone can help!!!
[19:26] <goodtime> nope
[19:26] <goodtime> it should just say wireless
[19:27] <Guest7041> ok it says wirelles is Unavaiable
[19:27] <AcidRain> BrainBug[BE], quota isnt installed
[19:27] <purefusion> Pici: ah, apparently shift+pageup doesn't work after a recent nano'ing...
[19:27] <AcidRain> BAM! bleachbit as root fixe dme up!
[19:27] <BrainBug[BE]> AcidRain, maybe it's a lvm problem, found this one : http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/10776/why-are-partion-size-and-df-output-different
[19:27] <goodtime> theres your answer then sorry
[19:27] <AcidRain> 11% disk space. thanks everyone for your help
[19:27] <Guest7041> And when i tred to turn it on i restarted again
[19:27] <goodtime> hmmmm
[19:27] <AcidRain> special love goes to llutz and the other guy :P
[19:28] <purefusion> gigabot: got it working, it's shift+fn+up ...it just wasn't working for me after having recently used nano
[19:31] <Guest7041> goodtime: Anymore ideas? or to start reinstalling system
[19:31] <goodtime> Guest7041: hard to say seeing that im on a desktop right now at the momment
[19:31] <StephenS> jrib, it works :)
[19:32] <chamunks> Mother of god why UEFI why!!! I really just want to install ubuntu on this sony vaio...
[19:32] <Guest7041> goodtime: It works fine when i start system from flash
[19:32] <chamunks> Can I remove the harddrive out of this laptop and transplant it into a machine that will allow me to install the ubuntu files onto it using unetbootin then transplant the drive back into the vaio?
[19:32] <goodtime> yeah
[19:33] <chamunks> because windows 8 is a trainwreck
[19:33] <haris_> hi.i have problem with new ubuntu 12.10
[19:33] <newroad> what would cause my virtualbox icon to stop working? when I double click the icon, the app never loads. But if I open virtualbox via command line, it works fine?
[19:33] <goodtime> i know there has tobe some setting for that
[19:33] <haris_> i cannot find dvd here
[19:35] <newroad> ah, I just figured it out
[19:35] <newroad> the new bumblebee update has broken my bumblebee
[19:35] <chamunks> uefi is blocking me from being able to boot from the livedisk
[19:35] <chamunks> is there a way to force uefi to just die in a fire and let me do what I intend to do with my own hardware?
[19:35] <StephenS> how can I make when onclick sidebar icon, to minimaze?
[19:35] <StephenS> Like that thing on windows?
[19:35] <goodtime> Guest7041: do you see the wireless symbol in you top bar?
[19:36]  * _goxxsy_ veche ! :-) :D
[19:36] <Guest7041> goodtime: i see netwok simbol...
[19:37] <goodtime> right click right on it
[19:37] <Guest7041> goodtime: when i try to activate itnetbook just restarts
[19:37] <StephenS> is ubuntu 12.10 the same almost as 12.04/?
[19:37] <StephenS> is it multiarch/?
[19:37] <Pici> StephenS: Both are multiarch
[19:38] <StephenS> !multiarch
[19:38] <goodtime> i use 12.04lts because there will be updates for it for years to come
[19:40] <Guest7041> goodtime: Il just reinstall system
[19:40] <goodtime> heh ok but theres a way man
[19:41] <goodtime> im sure
[19:41] <StephenS> ok and how about that clicking
[19:41] <StephenS> I have that sidebar, and when I click on icon, I wish to minimaze/maximaze like on windows
[19:41] <goodtime> its not the sidebar
[19:41] <Guest7041> goodtime: sure there is the way but this is faster :D
[19:41] <StephenS> Launcher*
[19:41] <no_gravity> Hey! Im trying to install some Desktop on an EC2 micro instance with ubuntu 12.04. "apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" results in "ubuntu-desktop" not found. Isnt that the name of this default unity desktop?
[19:41] <goodtime> its the little wifi symbol in the top right corner
[19:42] <goodtime> right click that
[19:42] <Guest7041> ok..
[19:43] <goodtime> Guest7041:  do you see anything?
[19:44] <Guest7041> goodtime: eneble Network,eneble wirelles,edit connections
[19:44] <goodtime> enable wireless!!! thats it man.
[19:45] <goodtime> left click enablewireless
[19:45] <Guest7041> goodtime: you kidding me??? I said that my problem is that when i enable it my note book restarts
[19:45] <tgunr> Im getting the error 'sudo: unable to resolve host ubuntu' usinging sudo, looking at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=723361 I double checked my /etc/hosts file and hostname which both have the name 'ubuntu'. Where do I go from here to fix this?
[19:45] <goodtime> oic hmm idk man
[19:46] <away> tgunr, what command exactly are you using?
[19:46] <tgunr> sudo -s
[19:46] <goodtime> try sudo bash tgunr
[19:47] <StephenS> can someone tell me about that launcher
[19:47] <tgunr> same message
[19:47] <StephenS> minimaze/maximaze thing? Also where is icon when I click on it to display desktop only
[19:47] <StephenS> tgunr, which message?
[19:47] <no_gravity> How do you install a desktop on Ubuntu 12.04 via apt-get?
[19:47] <StephenS> I disconnected I don't see some of it
[19:47] <tgunr> sudo: unable to resolve host ubuntu
[19:48] <iceroot> tgunr: you changed the hostname and did not open a new terminal?
[19:48] <no_gravity> I was able to install gnome with "apt-get install gnome-core". How do I install unity?
[19:48] <ronalds_m> if laptop restarts on enabling network, you should really go for service..
[19:48] <goodtime> are you root tgunr
[19:48] <iceroot> no_gravity: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[19:48] <tgunr> no, everything is fine there after a restart
[19:48] <tgunr> yes
[19:48] <Guest7041> goodtime: alredy half way reinstalling... ty anyway :D
[19:48] <goodtime> ok np
[19:48] <tigrang> Does hard drive spin down and power off when laptop enters standby?
[19:49] <jamesgcd> tigrang: it should
[19:49] <Sashmo_> I was reading somewhere that there is a wine trick that can allow me to use windows drivers on linux, has anyone heard of this??
[19:49] <Guest7041> goodtime: next time i wont turn off wirelles and no problem
[19:49] <no_gravity> iceroot: E: Unable to locate package ubuntu-desktop
[19:49] <goodtime> yes no_gravity
[19:49] <tgunr> one thing i did notice was in /etc/resolv my domain is not set from the DHCP server, all my other machines using DHCP have a domain
[19:49] <iceroot> no_gravity: cat /etc/issue
[19:49] <jamesgcd> Sashmo_: Wine isn't designed to offer that functionality, you may be thinking of a program I forget the name of what lets you use Windows WiFi drivers, it does it different if you care about the technical aspects but may be what youre thinking of
[19:49] <Sashmo_> NDSUIwrapper?
[19:50] <no_gravity> iceroot: stupid me - i was on the wrong box :)
[19:50] <tgunr> on a mac i can do `ipconfig get packet en0' to see the dhcp reply, don't see a ipconfig on ub
[19:50] <jamesgcd> Sashmo_: something like that. All I know is it doesn't use the actual drivers just the configuration files inside of them. I can research it if you like
[19:50] <iceroot> Sashmo_: wine can not handle drivers
[19:50] <iceroot> Sashmo_: you mean "ndiswrapper" for wifi-drivers
[19:50] <goodtime> wine stinks anyhow lol
[19:51] <Sashmo_> so, what can I do? woudl ndiswrapper work for other things like capture cards?
[19:51] <jamesgcd> Sashmo_: No. It's designed for WiFi only, and as I said, Wine won't work with Drivers and they have no intention of ever making it do so if I remember correctly.
[19:51] <Sashmo_> hmm, so no other way?
[19:52] <iceroot> Sashmo_: no
[19:52] <jamesgcd> Sashmo_: you're pretty much stuck to looking for Linux drivers for the capture card
[19:52] <Sashmo_> kk thanks
[19:53] <Sashmo_> know anyone that will work with the source code of the source driver and make one for linux?
[19:54] <kirk601> i recently installed gdm and went from the default ubuntu (13.04) window manager to lightdm. while running lightdm programs would close after being open a few seconds and a several programs wouldnt open at all. i got it back to the default window manager and its working fine again but now i want to go to gdm and try it. can anyone help me?
[19:54] <iceroot> Sashmo_: when there is a open source driver there is normally also a linux-driver
[19:54] <jamesgcd> Sashmo_: It'd be hard so much even getting the source since most drivers are closed source on hardware which isn't well documented. I can't say there's no chance of finding someone here willing, but you're most likely to get better help just searching Google :p
[19:54] <kirk601> its already installed, so i cant run the first time setup that lets you change from default to GDM
[19:54] <iceroot> Sashmo_: but i never heard of open source drivers for capture cards
[19:55] <StephenS> I have two sound outputs, usb headphones and analog speakers, speakers work while usb dont
[19:55] <StephenS> In output I see both recognized, but the question is how to switch between those two?
[19:56] <Sashmo_> iceroot: I'm working with a reseller of these capture cards, and they gave me the source code for the windows drivers, so what I really need is someone to port them to linux
[19:56] <iceroot> Sashmo_: which licence?
[19:56] <Sashmo_> iceroot: licenese?? dont get it?
[19:56] <joshu> hi I'm trying to boot an old macbook air 2008 with ubuntu desktop 12.04 burnt on DVD….it boots and then it gets stuck with a blinking cursor….I don't understand why it doesn't work
[19:57] <iceroot> Sashmo_: what licence does the source-code have
[19:57] <jamesgcd> Sashmo_: To avoid any legal issues you should really make sure you're even allowed to just hand out the source first :p, just to ensure you don't get into trouble for it. That's what iceroot means by lisence I believe
[19:57] <Sashmo_> jamesgcd: I have all of that.  Its straight from the company
[19:57] <joshu> btw I used this iso http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/12.04/release/ubuntu-12.04.2-desktop-amd64+mac.iso
[19:57] <StephenS> help pls
[19:58] <chamunks> Can I format a windows 8 uefi drive on a secondary computer and not have any complications from doing that?
[19:58] <Sashmo_> iceroot: I have full permission to do what ever I need to make the driver to work in linux
[19:58] <chamunks> I dont know how to ask this question any simpler.
[19:58] <streulma> joshu: I know what you have to do :)
[19:58] <chamunks> I would like to completely remove windows 8 from a computer that has no apparent option to boot linux via any means
[19:58] <joshu> streulma ok I'm all ears :D
[19:58] <chamunks> uefi really doesnt appear to support booting an installer disk.
[19:58] <iceroot> Sashmo_: check the licence first
[19:58] <streulma> joshu: you need 2 devices, one cd and one USB
[19:59] <iceroot> Sashmo_: and does the driver use non-free firmware and so on
[19:59] <streulma> joshu: boot from the cd, the reason is that it not find a root device
[20:00] <streulma> joshu: if you boot from cd, it will use BIOS emulation boot and not EFI
[20:00] <streulma> joshu: if that just not works, try to boot from the USB (ok, it's EFI)
[20:00] <iceroot> Sashmo_: and normally you should contact the kernel hackers at the LKML (Linux kernel mailing list) with that
[20:01] <Sashmo_> iceroot: thanks for the help
[20:01] <joshu> streulma sorry I'm confused…I thought the amd64+mac.iso was modified to work on Macs due to EFI issues….and the MBA 2008 only has one USB port I don't have a hub handy right now
[20:01] <iceroot> Sashmo_: but when the driver is not FOSS, i dont think someone will handle that
[20:01] <Sashmo_> iceroot: ok, good to know, thanks
[20:01] <streulma> joshu: yes but that's the method
[20:01] <mojtaba> Hi, Does anybody know how can I connect with my android to internet thru ubuntu?
[20:02] <streulma> joshu: and booting from CD with Alt ?
[20:02] <jamesgcd> mojtaba: you want Ubuntu to uses android's internet, or the other way around?
[20:02] <streulma> joshu: then you have a menu to choose, and choose "Windows" cd
[20:02] <joshu> streulma yes correct that is what I've done
[20:02] <iceroot> mojtaba: you want that ubuntu will be the access point?
[20:02] <mojtaba> jamesgcd: the other way.
[20:02] <iceroot> !ics | mojtaba
[20:03] <mojtaba> iceroot: I just want to set the gateway the ubuntu to android.
[20:03] <joshu> streulma I've done that several times….and it shows the purple screen and then it shows black screen with underscore cursor blocking in top left corner
[20:04] <jamesgcd> mojtaba: If you have WiFi but aren't using it, creating a wifi hotspot the way that link shows how is definitely the easiest way. Unfortunately, I don't think you can share the connection with WiFi if you're using the same WiFi card to receive it, although I think that wouldn't be a problem here
[20:04] <mojtaba> I have proxy settings in my ubuntu, and want to connect to the internet via my ubuntu from my android device.
[20:05] <mojtaba> I am connected to the internet through the wifi access point with both devices.
[20:06] <iceroot> mojtaba: you are confusing it
[20:06] <streulma> mojtaba: you want to use the internet connection from Ubuntu ?
[20:06] <iceroot> mojtaba: what system should be the gateway?
[20:06] <streulma> mojtaba: the best thing is share a wired internet connection over wifi
[20:06] <mojtaba> iceroot: I have android device and ubuntu laptop. with ubuntu I can bypass the filtering, but with android I can not.
[20:07] <iceroot> mojtaba: so you want android to use ubuntu as the gateway
[20:07] <mojtaba> iceroot: yes
[20:07] <mgolisch> mojtaba: how do you bypass it?
[20:07] <iceroot> mojtaba: read the ics-link from ubottu
[20:07] <Zentaur> Hi
[20:07] <Zentaur> could anybody help me with a very basic question?
[20:07] <iceroot> !details | Zentaur
[20:08] <mojtaba> iceroot: I have proxy server settings, also I can boot my laptop with tails.
[20:08] <iceroot> mojtaba: what?
[20:08] <iceroot> mojtaba: you read the link?
[20:08] <Zentaur> i need to start the sftware that came with my UPS. it is correctly installed
[20:09] <Zentaur> well, i need to execute by entering cd /opt/upspilot/
[20:10] <Zentaur> and then ./monitor
[20:10] <mgolisch> Zentaur: and that fails?
[20:10] <mgolisch> Zentaur: whats the error message?
[20:10] <Zentaur> i can do t in the terminal but i want to meke a button in alacarte
[20:10] <mgolisch> Zentaur: make a shell script with those commands then
[20:11] <Zentaur> that's it mgolisch  :)
[20:11] <genii-around> Zentaur: Perhaps see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBootupHowto#Installing_custom_init-scripts
[20:11] <Zentaur> but how can i do it in a line?
[20:11] <T4b> I've got an usb-ethernet-adapter (mcs7830) which works out of the box on an other arm-linux system I own (Pandora) but on this one here it doesn't. lsusb find's it, but it's not in NetworkManager's menu like I'm used to. I haven't got a clue what to do now.
[20:14] <T4b> (obviously, because I'm asking in this channel, I'm using Ubuntu here. To be exact it's Lubuntu 12.04 which was modified by some people to run on the mk802)
[20:14] <iceroot> T4b: technicly its not Lubuntu
[20:15] <iceroot> T4b: like raspbian is not debian and mint is not ubuntu
[20:16] <T4b> iceroot: I think but for some hacks to make it run it's the same as Lubuntu. Does it still not count as Lubuntu?
[20:17] <iceroot> T4b: no
[20:17] <iceroot> T4b: normally these hacks are kernel-based
[20:17] <lisandrop05> hello to every one, I'm making script to download and compress using 7z and I'm getting this error: System error:
[20:17] <lisandrop05> Too many open files
[20:17] <iceroot> T4b: and we dont support modified version of ubuntu/lubuntu
[20:17] <lisandrop05> can any one tell me something about it?
[20:17] <iceroot> lisandrop05: how many files?
[20:17] <lisandrop05> just one
[20:17] <iceroot> lisandrop05: and you want to search for "ulimit"
[20:17] <iceroot> lisandrop05: one?
[20:18] <lisandrop05> ulimit?
[20:18] <iceroot> lisandrop05: only one file in the archive?
[20:18] <lisandrop05> I don't know what it is
[20:18] <iceroot> lisandrop05: could you paste your command and the extact error message?
[20:18] <lisandrop05> I just want to compress 1 file
[20:18] <iceroot> !paste | lisandrop05
[20:18] <lisandrop05> tes I cant
[20:19] <lisandrop05> wget $URL
[20:19] <lisandrop05> 7z a -v$(echo $Size) -mx8 YOUR-FILE.7z /home/lisandro/$file
[20:19] <lisandrop05> and the error
[20:20] <rzyz> Hello, i want to reinstall fonts packages ( with apt-get --reinstall install). Can't find the packages to reinstall... does someone know which one are?
[20:20] <lisandrop05> Creating archive YOUR-FILE.7z
[20:20] <iceroot> lisandrop05: is $file empty? so that you are compressing the complete home-dir?
[20:20] <lisandrop05> Compressing  cantor-dbg_4.7.4-0ubuntu0.1_i386.deb
[20:20] <root_> #ubuntu-manual
[20:20] <lisandrop05> System error:
[20:20] <lisandrop05> Too many open files
[20:20] <lisandrop05> no the File is not empty
[20:21] <lisandrop05> iceroot: the output of the command show
[20:21] <lisandrop05> the file
[20:21] <lisandrop05> I'm compressing
[20:21] <serp_> close some files nd try again
[20:21] <T4b> iceroot: So where else should I get support? And I don't think it's a problem with the distro, it's just that I haven't gotten a clue on what to try next. May I need to load a kernel module, what would be it's name on vanilla ubuntu?
[20:21] <lisandrop05> the file exist
[20:21] <yigal> amen
[20:22] <lisandrop05> and is writeable
[20:22] <T4b> How would I find that out myself?
[20:22] <wilx> Hi.
[20:22] <wilx> Has anybody tried to play the game Warzone 2100 after recent update of the package in Ubuntu?
[20:22] <iceroot> T4b: maybe try #ubuntu-arm
[20:22] <iceroot> T4b: if i get it correctly you are using it on arm
[20:22] <wilx> It seems to me that units pathing is dumber than it used to be.
[20:23] <Ziber> If I wanted to, I could use ldap to create user accounts on a particular server, right?
[20:23] <iceroot> Ziber: yes
[20:23] <wilx> The units cannot circle around even a small group of other units and get stuck not going to their destination.
[20:23] <Ziber> iceroot: How might I start learning ldap and do that?
[20:23] <iceroot> !bug | wilx
[20:23] <T4b> yes. But shouldn't stuff like the name of kernel modules or the general steps one should follow to solve such a problem be the same on all architectures?
[20:23] <iceroot> Ziber: #slapd
[20:24] <iceroot> T4b: normally yes but because the kernel is not the ubuntu kernel we cant help
[20:24] <iceroot> T4b: we dont know what they patched in the kernel
[20:24] <iceroot> T4b: so ask the channel of your distri
[20:24] <jhutchins_wk> T4b: I would expect dmesg to have some useful information on what's going on.
[20:25] <lisandrop05> anything about too many files open error compressing only one file using 7z?
[20:25] <jhutchins_wk> T4b: Also, more uncommon systems tend to get their support in forums/mailing lists more than in IRC.  The users are more spread out in realtime, so immediate gratification isn't available.
[20:26] <T4b> jhutchins_wk: Ah, yes, dmesg is always a good idea, should have thought of that, thanks.
[20:27] <lisandrop05> any one knows how can I compress and split a files using custom size and aloow it to be decompressed on any operating system
[20:27] <lisandrop05> ?
[20:27] <jhutchins_wk> lisandrop05: Can't guarantee "any operating system" but zip will do that.
[20:28] <FatDarrel> Hello how do i   get Ubuntu 12.04 server to install over nfs?
[20:28] <jhutchins_wk> lisandrop05: rar is pretty popular on the newsgroups, but the creator is not free.
[20:28] <FatDarrel> anyone installl  ubuntu over nfs?
[20:30] <lisandrop05> justinfung: I like more zip because it's free (but how can I split the files)??
[20:32] <jmayfield> hmm.. anybody have any idea why recent the keyboard (even external usb) on a macbook would have completely stopped working as of a couple kernel updates ago?
[20:34] <jmayfield> i have to boot with 3.5.0-22.. anything higher and i get no inputs goodness
[20:42] <linux_user> Hello, I'm having problems with Unity 3D (Ubuntu DE) and I can't figure out how to disable LLVMPIPE
[20:42] <Bray90820> ubuntu touch for like the nexus 7 or the nexus 4 is that built off of a ARM architecture
[20:43] <linux_user> Yes
[20:44] <linux_user> Bray90820, Yes, Ubuntu works on Arm stuff as well
[20:44] <Bray90820> linux_user they should put out an x86 version for intel tablets
[20:44] <linux_user> I think they are as well
[20:44] <Bray90820> cool
[20:45] <Bray90820> because i have a convertable netbook and woulld really like to see ubuntu touch on it
[20:45] <Bray90820> now what would be cool is when i converted it to a netbook it used the desktop veron and when i turned it into a tablet it has ubuntu touch
[20:46] <linux_user> http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/tablet/partner
[20:47] <linux_user> The high end tablets are capable for x86 Ubuntu
[20:47] <Bray90820> yes
[20:47] <Bray90820> like the HP touchpad
[20:47] <Bray90820> and the HP slate
[20:48] <Bray90820> actually if i remember correctly the touchpad is arm
[20:48] <linux_user> Does anybody here know how to disable Unity LLVMPIPE back to 3D?
[20:49] <Bray90820> inux_user just t have both of toes intrfaces on the same system would be cool
[20:52] <MoPac> Hi, I'm looking for some help finding good all-text file indexing that integrates with the Unity search bar.  I'm a bit confused about whether I need separate indexing daemons and front ends, etc.  I've tried Pinot, and it was a disaster -- huge resource use, poor GUI, no integration...
[20:55] <linux_user> Is there not a way to disable LLVMPIPE??
[20:56] <MonkeyDust> !find pinot
[20:57] <ExpeDition> Hello guys
[20:57] <ExpeDition> whats popping?
[20:57] <linux_user> Hello, I need some help
[20:58] <linux_user> ExpeDition, hello, I need some help with 12.10 if possible
[20:58] <ExpeDition> i would love you help you linux but i am a newbie my self
[20:58] <ExpeDition> i just joined this channel
[20:58] <TheLordOfTime> linux_user:  you've already asked your quesiton, have some patience
[21:00] <linux_user> Sorry, thelordoftime, but won't my answer get buried?
[21:00] <MonkeyDust> linux_user  then repeat it every 10-15 minutes or so
[21:00] <TheLordOfTime> linux_user:  that doesn't mean you should repeat it every minute
[21:00] <TheLordOfTime> maybe every 10 or so minutes, but not every minute.
[21:01] <linux_user> Apologies
[21:03] <Anirban> I have installed vuze but transmission is still my default bittorrent client . Also Vuze is not launching and earlier qBittorrent stopped working often. I have uninstalled them both. What is wrong???
[21:04] <Anirban> I am using 12.04 ITS
[21:04] <Anirban> *12.04LTS
[21:05] <MoPac> MonkeyDust: was your ("!find Pinot") a way of telling me to try it again?
[21:05] <Anirban> Plz help
[21:06] <na__> guys i have an audio problem ,can anyone help
[21:06] <kunji> Anirban: Maybe try purge?
[21:06] <kunji> !ask | na__
[21:06] <kunji> !details | na__
[21:07] <na__> it has been posted at launchpad
[21:07] <kunji> na__: link it then :P
[21:07] <bitethecoin> Anyone know how well a GTX 680 would be in a Ubuntu 12.04 LTS installation? Buggy, or working?
[21:09] <Anirban> How to purge ....
[21:10] <BlitzHere> bitethecoin, I don't really know, but system76's bonobo extreme can come equipped with one
[21:10] <cITs> anyone know how to setup xinerama/dual monitor setup with the current prop amd driver 13.1 on 12.10?
[21:10] <kunji> Anirban: sudo apt-get purge <package name>
[21:10] <Bray90820> does anyone know how to set custom keybored shortcuts in ubuntu
[21:11] <bitethecoin> BlitzHere. Great. Currently on a GT 610 :) Buggy as never seen before )(
[21:11] <jamesfung14> in the keyboard setting
[21:12] <ubuntu_installl> hello, folks. I need some help about installation
[21:12] <Bray90820> sory i know that was kinda a nubish question :p
[21:12] <kunji> Bray90820: Gear in upper right -> system settings -> Keyboard -> Shortcuts tab -> Custom Shortcuts on the left.
[21:12] <Bray90820> i found it
[21:12] <Anirban> "sudo apt-get purge <package name>" where to type the command ?
[21:13] <Bray90820> now i just need to see if i can get one working for tabelet mode
[21:13] <ubuntu_installl> anyone?
[21:13] <away> Anirban, a terminal
[21:13] <kunji> Anirban: In the terminal, I'm not sure what the package name for Vuze is though
[21:13] <Anirban> where is the terminal ?
[21:13] <kunji> !ask | ubuntu_installl
[21:13] <BlitzHere> Alt F2
[21:14] <kunji> BlitzHere: Isn't it ctrl+alt+t by default?
[21:14] <Anirban> I got Vuze from software centre
[21:14] <ubuntu_installl> ok. I left some space for windows 8. Ubuntu 12.10 is my first OS. Now I can't install windows 8. It says, it can't revognize partition, and the free partiotion is formated in NTFS, though. Why can't I install win8?
[21:15] <kunji> Anirban: Just look, I think vuze is the package name.  Try:  sudo apt-get purge vuze
[21:16]  * cITs waves his hand
[21:16] <Anirban> terminal says vuze is not installed
[21:16] <leptone> I'm having trouble connecting to apple airport extreme router on 12.04 with Macbook Pro. i've just managed to connect by have a very slow connection
[21:17]  * leptone smh
[21:17] <ubuntu_installl> Listen guys, I'm not going to use win8 on my PC. I just need it for my friend. I need to check if the DVD I've burned is working, so I can give him working win8 DVD.
[21:17] <ubuntu_installl> And couldn't try it using VM Virtualbox
[21:18] <Anirban> Ubuntu is just SHIT !!!!
[21:18] <xangua> !language | Anirban
[21:19] <genii-around> Anirban: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install vuze
[21:21] <ubuntu_installl> Really no one knows?
[21:22] <BlitzHere> You know, I find terminal commands easier for certain things, but wouldn't it be better to give strictly gui instructions to newbies as far as possible?
[21:23] <jamesgcd> BlitzHere: maybe, maybe not. It's probably best to do both, since the GUI can only do so much. If they've had previous terminal experience even if there was a GUI way, it makes it less intimidating when they're forced to actually use it
[21:23] <Pici> ubuntu_installl: I don't understand what you're asking. If you don't want to install Windows 8 why are you installing it? If you can boot off the disc, assume that your DVD-write worked
[21:24] <genii-around> BlitzHere: Since I don't use Unity ( I use normally either KDE or LXDE) I prefer to give desktop-agnostic instructions
[21:25] <MoPac> I need to diagnose a framerate/jittering problem that I have on some Flash web applications. For example, a game (Haxball.com) that runs very smooth in Crhome on Win7 is choppy in Ub12.10.  Is this likely to be the flash player, a browser difference, a video card driver issue, some other process interfering... any guidance on how to narrow the possibilities would be much appreciated
[21:26] <xangua> MoPac: 100% possibilities that flash sucks in linux
[21:28] <MoPac> xangua: Any chance that trying different plugins would help? Or is it a more fundamental suckage?
[21:28] <xMopxShell> Hi guys. I'm trying to configure ipv6 on ubutnu 12.10. After being connected for a few minutes (15-40) something is automatically deleting the default route for ipv6 (thus killing my connectivity)
[21:28] <xMopxShell> whats up with that?
[21:30] <BlitzHere> genii-around I use LXDE myself - and I prefer to do package management with apt-get myself. It's just that CLI is scary to a lot of people. I find people to be more receptive and comfortable to go through a lenghty series of unnecessary graphical interfaces rather than type in a simple command (update && install, for instance). Just a thought when trying to make ubuntu friendly for newbies...
[21:30] <ux> how can i change the profile in the pulse audio control per shell?
[21:31] <n3normal3n> ima li bulgari
[21:31] <Bray90820> i seems that my custom keybord shortcuts are disabled
[21:32] <Bray90820> how would i enable them
[21:33] <BlitzHere> jamesgcd, I agree with you personally, but for the average user, it's usually graphical interface or tech support or the software is broken...
[21:36] <Bray90820> why does it show my custom keybored shortcuts as disabled
[21:39] <vanzan> Hello!
[21:41] <haryv> What is the default root password for the ubuntu install disk?
[21:41] <anonymous_> hello
[21:41] <xangua> !root | haryv
[21:42] <Peyam> anybody playing heroesofnewerth here?
[21:42] <Peyam> I can't sign up
[21:42] <Peyam> anyone can make a account fo rme
[21:42] <haryv> i just need it in one case...file system is corrupted and need it to do a fsck
[21:42] <xibalba> hey all, i'm trying a web server + load balancer combination in ubuntu. Can you guys hit this URL https://147.203.216.195/ and tell me if it says "web01" or "web02" ?
[21:42] <xibalba> thank you
[21:42] <ikonia> Peyam: not really something #ubuntu deals with
[21:42] <xibalba> and maybe refresh it a few times to ensure you stick to the same server
[21:43] <jamesgcd> xibalba: web01, but it also says your certificate is broken :p
[21:43] <xibalba> right its a brand new box w/self signed ssl cert
[21:43] <xibalba> trying to test the load balancing
[21:47] <Bray90820> anyone know why my custom keybored shortcuts are disabled
[21:48] <brianbgrp> quick question, just started using ubuntu 12.04 lts. made the switch from windows..how do i get the computer to start using my asus n10 wireless adapter on boot? currently i have to unplug then replug it every time i restart, afterwards it works fine.
[21:49] <Ftroop> hi got a problem with duplicates  in apt-get seems to have stemmed from steam  any ideas ?
[21:49] <Ftroop> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5571824/
[21:51] <bryan1980> where can i get help to recover my password?
[21:51] <bryan1980> or put new windows on
[21:51] <escott> bryan1980, boot too recovery mode and run "passwd your_username"
[21:51] <bryan1980> i can't remember my user name
[21:52] <bryan1980> how do you get into recovery mode?
[21:52] <escott> !recovery
[21:52] <escott> thats not right
[21:53] <escott> its an option during the boot
[21:53] <escott> recovery or single user mode
[21:53] <escott> you can see all the accounts by looking in /home at the directories there or looking at /etc/passwd
[21:53] <bryan1980> i have a mini dell
[21:53] <nino_> does anybody know how to update grub in terminal? There is something changed in the computer but i cant see it in grub
[21:54] <braaaains> would somebody please help me? I just installed 2 new WD red drives, but whenever I try to partition I get this error :(
[21:54] <braaaains> Failed to save partition : parted -s /dev/sdb unit cyl mkpart primary 0 243201 failed : Error: /dev/sdb: unrecognised disk label
[21:54] <jamesgcd> nino_: does sudo-update grub not work? Could be sudo grub-update I always forget :p
[21:54] <ikonia> nino_: what's changed ?
[21:54] <genii-around> nino_: sudo update-grub
[21:54] <penguinman> nino_: you can edit the grub configuration file then update-grub
[21:55] <nino_> my windows was crashed and i have now windows 8 loader. But now i have windows 7 on the laptop
[21:55] <braaaains> it sees both hard drives, but cannot format/partition them
[21:55] <nino_> Before it was windows 8 but i want know to see windows 7 loader
[21:55] <ikonia> nino_: sorry, don't understand how that relates to grub
[21:55] <nino_> *now*
[21:55] <nino_> I cant see it in the grub menu
[21:55] <ikonia> nino_: looks os-prober
[21:55] <nino_> When i boot my computer
[21:56] <jamesgcd> nino_: you'll need a windows 7 installation disc or recovery media. Also I'm not sure how much of a grub problem it is given you've got mix and match bootloader/os
[21:56] <cITs> http://pastebin.com/dvr1FgH7 <-- doesn't work as dual monitor setup, any idea why that might be?
[21:56] <penguinman> nino_: ah, gotcha. an update grub should locate the windows partition for you
[21:56] <jamesgcd> nino_: I'm assuming the windows 8 bootloader/windows 7 os is the problem anyway, try the other advice first :p
[21:56] <braaaains> i'll literally paypal you $5 if you can help me fix this
[21:57] <nino_> penguinman thanks that was the problem :)
[21:57] <penguinman> nino_: np
[21:58] <ikonia> braaaains: put a label on it, use mklabel
[21:59] <captainlinux> Guys, I have posted a blueprint for raring ringtail on Launchpad some short time ago. Just checked my blueprints and I assume that it got deleted. Is this possible? If so, what could be the reasons of it?
[21:59] <ikonia> captainlinux: try in #launchpad
[21:59] <captainlinux> ikonia: thanks
[22:00] <antonio_> for some reason sound isn't working on my laptop...
[22:00] <antonio_> I cannot record any audio into line in...
[22:00] <antonio_> it worked 2 days ago and just mysteriously stopped...
[22:01] <braaaains> ikonia: would you be kind enough to talk me through it ? I know $5 isn't much but it's all yours if you can help me get this up and running! I do most of my admin through a web interface (this is headless) Would it be ok to message you ?
[22:01] <joshu> hi i'm on 12.04…and my cmake is 2.8.7
[22:01] <ikonia> braaaains: I don't want money
[22:02] <joshu> how do i update cmake to => 2.8.8
[22:02] <ikonia> braaaains: it's not complex, just use the command I said on the device file
[22:02] <antonio_> this is absolutely uncalled for...why does my audio system all of a sudden not work????
[22:02] <leptone> does anyone know how i can get text-to-speech in firefox?
[22:03] <antonio_> this is so damn frustrating...
[22:04] <braaaains> parted mklable /dev/sdb msdos ?
[22:04] <antonio_> the sound system on linux sucks!
[22:04] <Bray90820> can someone help me with custom keybored shortcuts that arnt techniclly keybored shortcuts
[22:04] <cITs> antonio_: tell that mr poettering
[22:04] <Bray90820> i will br right back
[22:04] <antonio_> huh?
[22:04] <cITs> never mind
[22:04] <antonio_> ah..googled him
[22:04] <fried_> anyone know a way to slow down the mouse past the minimum settings, this is ridiculous lol
[22:05] <cITs>  slower hand movements?
[22:05] <antonio_> I have a ton of important projects to work on and linux decides..."hmm..lets stop audio from working"
[22:05] <antonio_> I made absolutely no changes...
[22:05] <zach__> I have a similar problem with my mouse
[22:06] <antonio_> how can I get my sound system to work?
[22:06] <Hootch> "I made absolutely no changes..." this is a only windows (tm) slogan :D
[22:06] <Spine> Im trying to figure out how to install .tar.gz files, but everywhere I look, it only tells me how to extract it
[22:06] <cITs> antonio_: what does your dmesg say?
[22:06] <SonikkuAmerica> Hootch: "I made absolutely no changes" said no one ever.
[22:06] <Spine> Is tar.gz only sourcefiles?
[22:06] <cITs> Spine: because it is a package
[22:07] <jrib> Spine: well tar.gz are things you extract.  Sometimes they have software inside.  What are you trying to install?
[22:07] <cITs> it is packed like .rar
[22:07] <xangua> Spine: you could statr with tell what you want to install
[22:07] <Spine> JDK
[22:07] <Spine> from sun
[22:07] <jrib> !java | Spine
[22:07] <Spine> gonna lern java :p
[22:07] <cITs> Spine: learn something useful
[22:07] <Spine> damn..
[22:08] <antonio_> cits: here is the pastebin of it
[22:08] <antonio_> http://pastebin.com/4a3vMaZ0
[22:08]  * Bray90820 is back
[22:08] <Bray90820> so anyways now what i was saying
[22:08] <Spine> Java isnt usefull?
[22:08] <Bray90820> can someone help me with some advnced keybord shortcuts/scripts
[22:09] <tcstar> running ubuntu 12.04 on a HP G7-2317CL which runs AMD graphics...  Periodically my mouse cursor completely distorts and displays really small 4 times...  any ideas why or how to repair that?
[22:09] <Bray90820> what i want is to have a script exacuted every time i open/close the lid of my netbook
[22:09] <cITs> antonio_: kernel module seems to be loaded properly
[22:10] <Bray90820> and the guide i have told me to use eybored shortcuts
[22:10] <Bray90820> keybored
[22:10] <cITs> try running pulseaudio from commandline and see what it does when trying to configure the mic in
[22:10] <escott> Bray90820, if you want it hooked into suspend resume then hook it into suspend resume
[22:10] <Bray90820> no
[22:10] <Bray90820> that's not what i want
[22:10]  * qwebirc7618 hides his gold-like pulseaudio config files
[22:10] <Bray90820> i wanted one for tablet mode and anotherone for laptop mode
[22:11] <Bray90820> for the onscren keybored
[22:12] <antonio_> cits: E: [pulseaudio] pid.c: Daemon already running. E: [pulseaudio] main.c: pa_pid_file_create() failed.
[22:12] <Bray90820> and a few other buttons for scroolbard and what not
[22:12] <Bray90820> scrollbars
[22:13] <Bray90820> it's a convertable netbook/tablet
[22:13] <cITs> antonio_: kill it?
[22:13] <Bon-chan> is it possible to run opengl games using a onboard video card?
[22:14] <Bray90820> depends on the onbored video card
[22:14] <thiefy`> what is the command to list what groups a user is part of?
[22:14] <bekks> "id"
[22:14] <cITs> Bon-chan: should be possible but only with the closed firmware as far as i know
[22:14] <Bray90820> do you know the motherbored modle
[22:14] <kostkon> Bon-chan, yes
[22:14] <braaaains> would anybody be kind enough to help me create label my disks with parted from the command line ? I can create labels for my main drive but cannot seem to (or don't know how to) specify /dev/sdb
[22:14] <Bray90820> Bon-chan do you know the motherbored model
[22:15] <joey8> thiefy`➤ have you tried "users"
[22:15] <tgunr> I have ny interfaces setup as `auto eth0 face eth0 inet dhcp' but after boot the /etc/resolve.conf does not show the domain name which is present in the DHCP reply message. Am I missing something here? On my macs all have my domain name in the file.
[22:15] <joey8> sorry... "groups"
[22:15] <Bon-chan> kostkon, im trying to run tibia here but im getting a "./Tibia: error while loading shared libraries: libGLU.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[22:15] <braaaains> nevermind
[22:15] <thiefy`> i'll try taht. thanks.
[22:15] <Bray90820> Bon-chan that is beyond my knoldge i will let omeone else take over
[22:16] <braaaains> argh!
[22:16] <kostkon> Bon-chan, try installing the package:  libglu1-mesa
[22:16] <Bon-chan> lets see
[22:16] <Guest31314> I am trying to install 12.04 64bit on my new laptop. I am trying to dual boot it with Windows. For some reason the installer wont see the Windows partition. It shows the whole drive as free space. I tried  partitioning the drive in Windows, but it still shows the whole drive as free space. What can I do to fix this?
[22:17] <gray--> just swapped from debian squeeze to 12.10 - anyone able to recommend an alternative to the sas2ircu tool for querying storage controllers?  i've got a lsi sas2008, onboard a dell r515
[22:18] <Bray90820> so anyone want to take a stab at my keybred shortcut probelum from before
[22:18] <Bon-chan> kostkon, its installed
[22:18] <Bon-chan> but cant run it
[22:18] <SonikkuAmerica> Bray90820: Like my Fujitsu Lifebook
[22:18] <SonikkuAmerica> (Ref: <Bray90820> it's a convertable netbook/tablet)
[22:18] <Bray90820> yes
[22:18] <Bray90820> mine is a dell insperon duo tho
[22:19] <Bon-chan> kostkon, oh wait! i think im getting it!
[22:19] <Bon-chan> just a sec!
[22:19] <braaaains> ikonia: I got it! While you may not want money... could I interest you in perhaps... CAT PICTURES ? Either way, thank you kindly, sir.
[22:20] <Bray90820> what i want is a 1 configuration when it's in laptop mode and a different configuration when it's in tablet mod
[22:20] <braaaains> I never had to do that with any of my other drives for some reason.
[22:21] <joshu> anyone help me with cmake installation on ubuntu 12.04
[22:21] <Bray90820> Anyone wnna help me with that
[22:21] <jrib> joshu: you want to install cmake?
[22:21] <Corestrike> If I have Team Fortress 2 installed on WIndows 7 but I don't have the time to reinstall it on Ubuntu, how can I play the game on Ubuntu?
[22:21] <joshu> jrib i have installed from apt but it's 2.8.7 but i need a newer version
[22:21] <jrib> joshu: why?
[22:21] <kickingvegas> hi folks - any way to get natural scrolling working with gnome apps?
[22:22] <leptone> i've tried various text-to-speech add ons in various browsers. they all seem unable to find a voice synthesizer bc they install fine the just dont make any noise/read anything
[22:22] <joshu> because i need a newer version ;)
[22:23] <goodtime> Corestrike: you cant
[22:23] <Corestrike> Why not? I can't move files over?
[22:24] <goodtime> the format for that game is ntfs not a linux kernnel format
[22:24] <Corestrike> So It's either reinstall it or I can't play it?
[22:25] <goodtime> yep
[22:25] <goodtime> that is going to end in like 1 year thoe
[22:25] <Corestrike> That would work if it wasn't going to take more than 48 hours to install.
[22:26] <goodtime> brbg
[22:26] <goodtime> brb*
[22:26] <jhutchins_wk> Corestrike: There are ways to configure wine to use the existing windows system resources, which would let you do that, but it's a pretty advanced topic.
[22:27] <jhutchins_wk> Corestrike: THe problem with windows programs is they don't just copy files to a folder.  There are registry entries and library modifications.
[22:27] <Bray90820> is there anyway i can set two things to 1 keybored shortcut
[22:27] <jumadi85> hi all
[22:27] <jhutchins_wk> Corestrike: I'd start by looking at the wine db to see if it even runs under wine.
[22:28] <Bray90820> like i i press it once for enable and then press it again for disable
[22:28] <Bray90820> another question
[22:28] <Corestrike> What about PlayonLinux?
[22:28] <cleamoon> jhutchins_wk, what do you want to run under wine?
[22:29] <Bray90820> anyways i gotta go
[22:29]  * Bray90820 bye bye
[22:31] <xMopxShell> Hi guys. I'm trying to configure ipv6 on ubutnu 12.10. After being connected for a few minutes (15-40) something is automatically deleting the default route for ipv6 (thus killing my connectivity)
[22:32] <Fuzzles> whats heavier unity or KDE?
[22:34] <jhutchins_wk> cleamoon: Corestrike wanted to run and existing game.
[22:34] <cleamoon> which game?
[22:34] <jhutchins_wk> Team Fortress 2?
[22:34] <cleamoon> never here of it...
[22:34] <cleamoon> heard
[22:35] <jhutchins_wk> Claims it took him 48 hrs to install.
[22:35]  * joey8 wonders if that is entirely correct
[22:36] <cleamoon> ...
[22:36] <cleamoon> is that a new game?
[22:38] <ibrahim> hello world I have a question that drives me crazy
[22:39] <BlueNexus> the answer is questions drive the world
[22:39] <ibrahim> lol
[22:39] <BlueNexus> hehe :P
[22:39] <joey8> i reckon the answer is "42"
[22:40] <ibrahim> is about  /usr/include/asm/ dosnt exist
[22:40] <ibrahim> on ubuntu 12.10
[22:40] <SunMoonStar> Is there a way to open an encrypted excel file in ubuntu? I have the password but need to use the file in Linux.
[22:40] <jhutchins_wk> SunMoonStar: Try it with open/libreoffice calc.
[22:41] <BlueNexus> you should be able to do it with libreoffice or openOffice
[22:41] <SunMoonStar> jhutchins_wk: I tried that but it did not provide any options when importing. Do you know that to be a working method?
[22:41] <SunMoonStar> It was nonsensical characters when it opened
[22:41] <cleamoon> ibrahim, what is asm about?
[22:41] <BlueNexus> Have you tried open office
[22:41] <SunMoonStar> no, only libreoffice
[22:42] <jhutchins_wk> SunMoonStar: Did it prompt for the password?
[22:42] <SunMoonStar> jhutchins_wk: no
[22:42] <jhutchins_wk> Hm.  I thought they were compatible but those things change more often than I deal with them.
[22:43] <jhutchins_wk> To teh googles!
[22:43] <SunMoonStar> heh
[22:43] <SunMoonStar> Dr google
[22:44] <SunMoonStar>  
[22:44] <chopin_> Whenever I go down a resolution and then go back to my normal, native res, I get a weird black bar down the right side of my screen, where the old resolution ended. Only way I can get rid of it is restarting X. Is there a better way of going about this?
[22:44] <hilarie> I rm'd something I shouldn't have, is there an easy way to recover this, or should I get started on recreating it?
[22:44] <cleamoon> SunMoonStar, maybe you can try to open it with google docs
[22:44] <chopin_> I'm not using gnome or anything. Just X with wmii.
[22:45] <SunMoonStar> cleamoon: shall try now
[22:45] <hilarie> Google answered my qeustion nvm :(
[22:46] <cleamoon> chopin_, wmii does behave weird sometimes. but i think there is a shortcut for restarting wmii.
[22:47] <chopin_> cleamoon: Killing wmii doesn't fix it :/
[22:47] <chopin_> I have to totally restart X
[22:47] <SunMoonStar> cleamoon: not working
[22:48] <SunMoonStar> cleamoon: thx for the suggestion
[22:48] <cantellope> hello. I am trying to do X11 forwarding over ssh. I get this message when I login: /usr/bin/xauth:  error in locking authority file /home/danny/.Xauthority  And I get this message if I try to start an application: PuTTY X11 proxy: MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 data did not match (newline)  Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: localhost:10.0
[22:48] <cleamoon> chopin_, ok. that's weird
[22:48] <cantellope> when I do this while ssh'd into another ubuntu box, it works fine.
[22:49] <ncmcxx> how would I go about connecting two interfaces to different isps on the same computer?
[22:49] <cleamoon> SunMoonStar, i think there is something wrong with charactor set. try to open it like this in terminal: LANG=en_US.iso88591 libreoffice
[22:49] <billybob000> im trying to uninstall openjdk.  when i type in sudo apt-get remove openjdk, it prompts me to install more packages... what the..?
[22:50] <cantellope> ncmcxx: either two NIC cards or some fancy routing
[22:50] <braaaains> would you get double the speed with that ncmcxx ?
[22:51] <cantellope> braaaains: you can get more total bandwidth, but each single connection would only utilize one link (in almost all cases)
[22:51] <ncmcxx> no I just want to be able to route an internet connection through the network
[22:51] <ncmcxx> to a network with its own internet connection
[22:51] <escott> ncmcxx, its called bonding
[22:52] <ncmcxx> I dont want to combine them, I want to make one accesssible to apps on a network already connected
[22:52] <cantellope> ncmcxx: need more information about the current network, and exactly how they are connected
[22:53] <ncmcxx> so i can maybe use a proxy to send the browser to the machine with the other internet connection
[22:53] <SunMoonStar> cleamoon: nope, maybe I should try openoffice
[22:53] <krababbel> Hi, is there a channel for the Nexus devices?
[22:53] <cantellope> ncmcxx: I've used OpenVPN to achieve a similar setup
[22:53] <ncmcxx> ok network connected to the internet, I have a second internet connection i would like available to applications running on other computers on the network
[22:54] <ncmcxx> cantellope: on the same network?
[22:54] <ncmcxx> internally?
[22:54] <cleamoon> SunMoonStar, they are the same. try this: LANG=en_US.UTF-8 libreoffice
[22:54] <haryv> some one tell me just how fast is fsck -F directory name? I was having some issues making it work, and now, I think it did...in .5 seconds?
[22:55] <cantellope> ncmcxx: I don't think this is really #ubuntu relevant. Would you like to continue in pm?
[22:55] <SunMoonStar> cleamoon: Also it gives me a vast array of options when opening the file (various file types). I choose the Microsoft Excel one though it doesn't have an option for 2007 which is I think the version of Excel it was made in
[22:55] <ncmcxx> sure
[22:56] <SunMoonStar> cleamoon: it says same thing : read error, unknown or invalid excel file type
[22:57] <cleamoon> SunMoonStar, ok...
[22:58] <SunMoonStar> cleamoon: thanks :P)
[22:59] <cleamoon> SunMoonStar, no problem. : )
[23:06] <omar> any idea on firefox slow on ubuntu 12.04.2
[23:07] <BlueNexus> it runs fine on my 12.04 omar.. perhaps uninstall/reinstall..  just export your bookmarks first
[23:07] <omar> i am using xmarks add-on
[23:08] <omar> will re install
[23:10] <wiolet> what is the mint channel ?
[23:10] <Ben64> !mint
[23:12] <mattin> im trying to uninstall the google talk plugin for ubuntu.  google's page in https://support.google.com/chat/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=161994 does not list the instructions for linux.  anyone know how to do the uninstall cleanly?
[23:13] <soee> how can i completly remove ubuntu one
[23:13] <soee> with all configurations etc
[23:13] <soee> or only completly remove configuration ?
[23:13] <mattin> im not sure why but it doesn't show for my "ubuntu software center" either, even tho i have it installed
[23:13] <mattin> *even tho i have the google talk plugin installed
[23:14] <jambeedrum> hi does anyone know how i can make a virtual dvd driver ? or cd
[23:14] <jambeedrum> furious iso mount. doenst mounts the iso in the mnt/cdrom directory
[23:14] <jambeedrum> anyone helping?
[23:14] <dmitri> hi guys
[23:14] <dmitri> maybe someone could help me
[23:15] <dmitri> is it possible to connect with smth like Global VPN Client for ubuntu?
[23:16] <dmitri> need to connect with Sonicwall VPN
[23:16] <dmitri> but can't find any appropriate client that can work with it
[23:22] <ferhat> Test
[23:23] <mattin> not a lot of helping in this channel
[23:23] <mattin> anyway, i found my problem.  it's to use the synaptic package manager instead of the ubuntu software center
[23:25] <rjune> mattin,
[23:25] <rjune> that's the problem?
[23:25] <tgm4883> mattin, I assume it shows up in USC under "Show X technical items"
[23:31] <ferhat> Hi
[23:31] <nearst> hi ppll
[23:31] <ferhat> can someone help me by configuring my dwm window manager?
[23:32] <ferhat> join #cat-v
[23:34] <jambeedrum> can i create a directory in the "mnt" folder?
[23:34] <Ben64> yes
[23:34] <jrib> jambeedrum: sure, why not
[23:34] <jaha> any idea why I can run "nmcli nm enable false" through commandline but NOT in sh script run by same user?
[23:34] <jambeedrum> ok ty
[23:34] <prophit> I've installed python2.6, but when I'm trying to build mesos, it can't find libpython2.6.. any idea where the libpython2.6.so* goes?
[23:34] <jaha> CANT*
[23:35] <jrib> jaha: how are you executing the script?
[23:35] <jaha> jrib: through an upstart user-job
[23:35] <jrib> jaha: probably environment or dbus issue (guess)
[23:37] <jaha> jrib: any ideas on how to debug? not realy sure where to start when it works with that same user via commandline
[23:37] <jrib> jaha: what do you actually want to accomplish?  Why are you trying to run this script in the first place?
[23:39] <jaha> jrib: i have a small shell script that checks the internet connection and when its down, after awhile it will restart network-manager via "nmcli nm enable false", "nmcli nm enable true". Since network-manager will only try to reconnect for so long as I found. I need a way to make sure it ALWAYS trys to reconnect. System is hands off.
[23:40] <jrib> jaha: hmm.  I don't too many details about nm.  But have you looked into some configuration that tells nm to keep trying to connect for longer?
[23:40] <abc__> hey guys how do i get kernel 3.5 on LTS ?
[23:41] <jrib> abc__: which LTS?
[23:41] <abc__> jrib 12.04
[23:41] <jrib> abc__: apt-cache search -n linux image backport
[23:41] <kostkon> abc__, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[23:42] <kostkon> abc__, only new isntallations get the quantal kernel. But you can install it yourself: sudo apt-get install linux-generic-lts-quantal xserver-xorg-lts-quantal
[23:43] <jrib> kostkon: will xserver-xorg pull in xorg if he doesn't have it before?
[23:43] <kostkon> jrib, i hope so :/
[23:43] <kostkon> haven't done it yet
[23:43] <jrib> kostkon: oh, I was thinking this was a server for some reason, but he never said that
[23:43] <kostkon> jrib, oh right.
[23:45] <abc__> kostkon: thanks, but that broke aptitude
[23:45] <jaha> jrib: not that ive found, everyone says scripts or wicd, I tested wicd awhile ago and it wasnt as stable but could be different now, just want to exhaust options with network-manager first
[23:46] <jrib> abc__: broke aptitude how?  Do note that aptitude doesn't play nice with multiarch in 12.04
[23:46] <abc__> jrib: it will remove a bunch of stuff and not install the dependencies
[23:47] <abc__> jrib: i'm running amd64
[23:47] <jrib> abc__: well does apt-get say the same thing?
[23:47] <abc__> jrib: shouldn't aptitude be better and take care of all the dependencies for you ?
[23:47] <parallel21> Any tips on cleaning an ubuntu install without doing a fresh install?
[23:48] <TheAsgard> hey all
[23:48] <abc__> jrib: i've always used aptitude
[23:48] <jrib> abc__: I don't know what you are seeing.  As I said, aptitude has issues with multiarch in 12.04
[23:48] <feeshon> I have a fresh install of Ubuntu 12.10 and having trouble with wireless...in Dmesg I am getting authentication with xxxxxxxxxxxx timed out
[23:49] <abc__> jrib: nvm apt-get works
[23:49] <Bray90820> so anyone wanna help me get this keyboard shortcut script working
[23:49] <abc__> jrib: all i'm saying is aptitude has always worked for me and i rarely use apt-get
[23:49] <jrib> abc__: you get any output from: dpkg --print-foreign-architectures ?
[23:49] <Bray90820> i have a dell inspron duo
[23:49] <TheAsgard> anyone have any idea how to run installed drivers in ubuntu
[23:49] <Bray90820> a netboon/tablet hybrid
[23:50] <abc__> jrib: i386
[23:50] <feeshon> Also I am seeing associating with AP with corrupt beacon (but I am connected to that AP right now)
[23:50] <jrib> jaha: have your upstart script output error messages somewhere and take a look.  There's a guide on the upstart wiki for debugging upstart scripts.  If you can't find it, I'll search for it
[23:50] <Bray90820> i want to have a keybored shortcut run every time i switch between tablet and laptop mode
[23:50] <jrib> abc__: right, so definitely stop using aptitude (or, if you don't need multiarch, I guess you could just disable it instead)
[23:50] <abc__> jrib: ahh so you mean mixing i386 stuff with my amd64 base  screws up aptitude ?
[23:50] <jrib> abc__: yes, though it seems to be fixed in 12.10
[23:51] <abc__> jrib: well thanks for clearning that out
[23:51] <abc__> jrib: i'll stick to 12.04 and apt-get from now on then
[23:51] <feeshon> I have a fresh install of Ubuntu 12.10 and having trouble with wireless...in Dmesg I am getting authentication with xxxxxxxxxxxx timed out
[23:52] <feeshon> Also I am seeing associating with AP with corrupt beacon (but I am connected to that AP right now)
[23:52] <nearst> whats up ? :)
[23:52] <woo> feeshon: ur ip's are straight?
[23:53] <feeshon> woo: I have it to DHCP
[23:53] <abc__> jrib: kostkon thanks, i'm off enjoy my new kernel :D
[23:53] <woo> :|
[23:53] <nearst> ew.
[23:53] <woo> feeshon: did you use additional drivers?
[23:53] <jaha> jrib: thanks, im sure i can find it
[23:54] <Bray90820> Do the same Keyboard shortcuts work if you are using the onscreen keyboard
[23:55] <feeshon> i  did not
[23:55] <feeshon> woo: I have an interface in ifconfig
[23:55] <moxx> join #xda-devs
[23:56] <woo> feeshon: and some damaged packets and no auth? but connctivity isp is fine?
[23:57] <feeshon> ISP is fine as I am on this laptop and all wireless work and have been working
[23:57] <kiyoura> join #bren
[23:57] <kiyoura> wops
[23:57] <feeshon> woo: its def something with this driver/card
[23:58] <woo> feeshon: did you use lshw to find the name of the device?