[02:26] <zequence> I'm working on some kind of format for our wikis
[02:26] <zequence> This is a candidate for the landingpage at wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/LandingPageStaging
[02:27] <zequence> There are two goals with this format
[02:27] <zequence> 1. minimal, and concise. 2. Advertise for user contribution
[02:28] <zequence> Those are the two things I'd like to focus on this year
[02:28] <zequence> Does it look good? Is it missing something?
[02:29] <zequence> All the links aren't doing much yet, but just thinking of the layout and content
[06:26] <Len-nb> zequence_, I like the wiki you mentioned. Only one thing and I am not sure if it is cultural or not
[06:26] <Len-nb> But the community icon in red says beware or stay out or warning or something like that.
[06:27] <Len-nb> red means danger or stop to many people. Green is safe and go.
[06:28] <Len-nb> (could be just me) Anyone else look at it?
[06:28] <Len-nb> Anyway other than that it looks good.
[10:02] <zequence_> Len-nb: Makes sense. I was actually thinking it looked a little commy :)
[10:28] <zequence> Yep, that looks much better. Still not sure of the side menu https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/LandingPageStaging
[10:29] <zequence> I'd like to do more work on the row of apps too, to make it nicer. 
[11:55] <zequence> Just had an idea. I'd like us to have a SRU PPA, where we keep updates to packages that we are meaning to SRU
[11:55] <zequence> Or, in the process of SRUing
[12:02] <smartboyhw> zequence, what do ya think about the new UDS system?
[12:03] <zequence> smartboyhw: I haven't read about it thoroughly yet
[12:04] <smartboyhw> zequence, BTW next UDS is actually next Tuesday-Wednesday...
[12:05] <zequence> smartboyhw: Yeah :). Just read through the mail
[12:05] <smartboyhw> zequence, that
[12:05] <smartboyhw> is real nuts
[12:05]  * smartboyhw doesn't like it holding on 16:00 UTC
[12:05] <smartboyhw> IM ASLEEP!!
[12:06] <zequence> smartboyhw: It's not the same thing as being there in person. You really do get more out of it, if you're there
[12:06] <smartboyhw> zequence, yeah
[12:07] <zequence> And in this respect, i feel it's a little sad. It'll be less expensive this way
[12:07] <smartboyhw> zequence, basically two reasons: 1. Canonical doesn't want to sponsor (at all) and 2. Canonical wants to get Ubuntu non-LTSed
[12:08] <zequence> I suppose the plus is that more people will feel apart of the event
[12:09] <zequence> It'll be more open, but not as powerful
[12:12] <smartboyhw> zequence, the problem is: It makes Ubuntu contributors' friendship go.....
[12:12] <smartboyhw> zequence, BTW nice Wiki landing page:)
[12:13] <zequence> It's hard estimating what will happen now. With the Ubuntu phone, they seem to be taking a huge step away from the community
[12:13] <smartboyhw> zequence, yep
[12:13] <zequence> I just hope the phone will be free, in the sense that I control what it does to the last bit
[12:14] <smartboyhw> zequence, ;)
[12:14] <zequence> I mean, maybe not away from the community, but away from the current type of community
[12:14] <smartboyhw> zequence, yep
[12:14] <zequence> It's not bad to mix commercial with free, as long as one has the total freedom to be totally free
[12:15] <smartboyhw> zequence, :)
[12:15] <zequence> This way, it'll benefit everyone
[12:15] <smartboyhw> +1
[12:16] <zequence> As the Ubuntu phone gest more attention, so will the Ubuntu desktop
[12:16] <zequence> This is actually a chance for us to start thinking a little bigger
[12:16] <smartboyhw> zequence, another thing that is stupid is that they used Google+ Hangouts
[12:16] <zequence> I mean, we should do that anyway
[12:16] <zequence> smartboyhw: Why is that bad?
[12:17] <smartboyhw> zequence, it can only enable 10 people at a time
[12:17] <zequence> really?
[12:17] <smartboyhw> zequence, although IRC will also be supported I would want video conversation
[12:17] <zequence> 10 at the time, discussing, and zillions following, I suppose
[12:17] <smartboyhw> zequence, yep
[12:17] <zequence> I guess 10 is enough. You don't want to see more faces than that anyway
[12:18] <smartboyhw> zequence, LOL
[12:18] <zequence> Would be confusing
[12:19] <zequence> 13.04 will be the first Ubuntu Studio release with fairly good jack PA interaction. It works fine, if you don't do anything out of the ordinary
[12:19] <zequence> That gives at least me the courage to promote it well
[12:20] <zequence> And we're also adding a lot of other apps this cycle
[12:20] <zequence> For the other workflows
[12:20] <smartboyhw> zequence, clap clap clap clap
[12:20] <zequence> For 14.04 I want the desktop to be excellent. With all the tools in place that we've been talking about
[12:21] <zequence> But first, we need to get more people involved. And that is my main mission this whole year
[12:21] <smartboyhw> zequence, you got Planet Ubuntu sorted out?
[12:21] <zequence> smartboyhw: Yes, but I haven't started posting anything
[12:22] <zequence> I'll wait until later
[12:23] <smartboyhw> zequence, OK:)
[15:09] <smartboyhw> Hi len_1304 you know about the new UDS arrangement?