[00:00] <GridCube> holly canoli
[00:00] <Haohmaru> grab that with a phone camera ;]
[00:00] <GridCube> send that to a gallery o:
[00:00] <GridCube> i mean in imgur
[00:01] <zequence> Haohmaru: More detail than the eye can see
[00:01] <Haohmaru> http://i.imgur.com/1XUkN.jpg
[00:02] <GridCube> nice, this is as good as mine gets, http://i.imgur.com/wZWFe3d.jpg
[00:03] <GridCube> no wait, thats from the canon camera XD
[00:03] <Haohmaru> nice cat ;P~
[00:03] <Haohmaru> well, i don't think you can do even this with a phone camera: http://i.imgur.com/37URe.jpg
[00:04] <Haohmaru> so it's not worth paying for those 40MP on a phone camera, no matter what ;]
[00:05] <GridCube> here, this is a picture i took with my cellphone http://imagebin.org/247876
[00:05] <GridCube> P: all that granularity
[00:06] <Haohmaru> thing is, the sensor is small
[00:06] <Haohmaru> you can't get bokeh
[00:07] <Haohmaru> not to mention you can't play with lenses ;]
[01:24] <clivie-user438> hey i need help how can i login   to the desktop
[01:24] <clivie-user438> any one ?
[01:26] <clivie-user438> msg
[01:31] <clivie-user438> hello
[11:33] <SuperRoach> Good evening :) Good evening. I've just noticed my 12.10 ubuntustudio, apps  has lost their menu with the min/close icons. http://i.imgur.com/SCFC43t.png What can I use to restore it?    I'm using an Intel HD 4000, reboot doesn't solve it. Multiwindow seems disabled too.
[11:53] <zequence> SuperRoach: Metacity has crashed
[11:53] <zequence> Or, no
[11:53] <zequence> It's something else
[11:53] <zequence> It's the program that draws the window borders
[11:54] <zequence> SuperRoach: Do you have Desktop FX enabled? Try disbling them.
[11:54] <zequence> SuperRoach: And, is it like this every time you restart?
[11:55] <SuperRoach> zequence, yeah its every time I restart
[11:55] <SuperRoach> I'll have a look at disabling desktop fx
[11:56] <zequence> Metacity is what draws window borders to Gnome. FXCE has something else
[11:57] <zequence> And there's also Compiz somehow baked into all of that
[11:57] <zequence> If used..
[11:58] <zequence> Compiz is often used for fancy FX
[11:59] <SuperRoach> apparantly I don't have compiz installed, nor metacity
[12:02] <SuperRoach> zequence, to make things tricky, if I look at settings ("customize your desktop"), clicking on "window manager" hangs instead of giving me a dialog
[12:03] <zequence> SuperRoach: Have you installed any graphic drivers lately?
[12:04] <SuperRoach> zequence, not that I'm aware of no.
[12:04] <SuperRoach> A stock 12.10 install was working ok. I think it may have been after a firefox update possibly.
[12:04] <SuperRoach> A bit annoying not being able to bring up the window manager to look further.
[12:05] <zequence> SuperRoach: Could be some user files that have gone bad
[12:06] <zequence> SuperRoach: No change in theming?
[12:07] <SuperRoach> zequence, fixed after more googling! :)
[12:07] <zequence> SuperRoach: Yeah?
[12:07] <SuperRoach> The problem was my "xfce session seems to have been corrupted" . I had to rm -r ~/.cache/sessions
[12:08] <SuperRoach> Ref: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1955078
[12:08] <zequence> SuperRoach: Cool. I'll try to remember that next time someone has weird problems :)
[12:09] <SuperRoach> Was a bit of luck finding that one. I was looking at compiz and window manager as well.
[12:10] <zequence> SuperRoach: It might be a good idea to clean the home totally sometimes. At least cache and settings that one will not miss
[12:10] <zequence> Those will be autoreplaced with default settings
[12:10] <zequence> Well, at least if one is having problems
[12:11] <SuperRoach> Agreed. Might add it to bash lest I'll probably forget.
[13:00] <Patero-ng> what does wise up douche
[13:36] <Haohmaru> where should i be looking for to see what serial ports are available?
[13:51] <zequence> Haohmaru: usb, SATA and Firewire are all serial, but are you talking about the old classic style?
[13:51] <zequence> same size as VGA, but less pins
[13:52] <zequence> I think the last paralell port to vanish was IDE
[13:55] <Haohmaru> zequence, yeah, RS232
[13:56] <Haohmaru> actually there's a device which connects to USB but acts as a serial port
[13:56] <Haohmaru> it uses the FTDI usb<->serial driver (which seems to be already part of ubuntu)
[13:56] <Haohmaru> so on windows - this driver creates a virtual serial port
[13:58] <zequence> Haohmaru: So, you want to see if the port is usable, or not?
[13:59] <zequence> Haohmaru: lsusb
[13:59] <zequence> Try that for usb devices
[14:00] <zequence> lspci for MB attached chips
[14:00] <zequence> Haohmaru: To see what they can do, do: lsusb --help, or to read the manual: man lsusb
[14:00] <zequence> Hit "q" go quit the manual