[14:02] <gary_poster> oops
[14:21] <hatch> morning
[14:22] <hatch> bcsaller_, in my subapp scaffold I'm running into an issue where the 'namespace' property is being stripped from the route object 
[14:23] <bcsaller_> hatch: looks like someone merged out the changes to App.route that fixed that, let me see if I can verify this
[14:24] <hatch> yeah thats what I thought last night but I was running out of steam so I called it quits :)
[14:28] <bcsaller_> hatch: wait, I gave you that patch, no? I thought it was going to be in your branch as mine had already landed
[14:28] <bcsaller_> maybe you didn't port it from the prototype?
[14:29] <hatch> it was in the `match` method right?
[14:29] <bcsaller_> no, route
[14:29] <bcsaller_> match is in trunk
[14:29] <hatch> ok comparing
[14:30] <hatch> ahh that's what it was thanks
[14:30] <hatch> next time I'm definitely doing things differently :)
[14:43] <hatch> hoooooly linter does not like the 'lined up' spacing you did you the properties
[14:43] <hatch> :P
[14:54] <hatch> bcsaller_, when you get a second could you review https://codereview.appspot.com/7430043/ plz thx
[15:13] <frankban> hi benji: were you able to deploy charms in a precise env using lxc?
[15:14] <benji> frankban: I haven't tried using lxc.
[15:16] <frankban> benji: you used any other workaround?
[15:16] <therve> frankban, I am
[15:16] <frankban> therve: with gojuju?
[15:17] <therve> frankban, ah, not that one no :)
[15:17] <frankban> therve: :-) 
[15:19] <benji> frankban: I'm afraid I don't understand the question.  Workaround for what?
[15:20] <frankban> benji: for creating a juju-core precise environment, workarounf for bug 1131608
[15:20] <_mup_> Bug #1131608: deployed series is arbitrary <juju-core:New for fwereade> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/1131608 >
[15:20] <benji> frankban: oh, my "workaround" was to install the version of the OS juju-core wanted.  :\
[15:21] <frankban> benji: ack :-/
[15:28] <gary_poster> jujugui call in 2
[15:41] <bac> frankban, teknico: could one of you grab lp:~bac/juju-core/api-expose and run the tests?
[15:41] <bac> go test launchpad.net/juju-core/...
[15:42] <teknico> bac, I'll do it
[15:42] <bac> thanks!
[15:42] <bac> maybe |tee test.out so you can paste it
[15:46] <bac> hatch: was my audio quality any better after i changed headsets?
[15:46] <hatch> I still had to turn you up to match the others
[15:47] <hatch> but that was just a preference
[15:47] <hatch> you were still easy enough to hear
[15:48] <gary_poster> bac I endorse hatch's statements :-)
[15:51] <hatch> :-) 
[15:51] <hatch> bcsaller_, would you prefer console.error() or throw  for the warning?
[15:51] <hatch> what's the convention used elsewhere in the app?
[15:52] <teknico> bac, shortly: you were too soft :-)
[15:54] <bac> so i can be too quiet on my phone, or garbly vis DSL.
[15:55] <bac> luckily next week we should get wimax installed and ditch dsl.
[15:55] <gary_poster> cool
[15:55] <bcsaller_> hatch: we'd already get an exception when the callback.call happened, I think an error with more information about the route and the callback name make sense 
[15:55] <gary_poster> too quiet on phone is vastly better than garbled on DSL, bac, fwiw
[15:57] <hatch> bac I endorse gary_poster's staements :-)
[15:57] <hatch> statements even
[15:57] <gary_poster> :-)
[15:57] <hatch> bcsaller_, agreed
[15:58] <bac> yay we reached concensus on my crappy connectivity
[15:58] <gary_poster> lol
[15:58] <hatch> haha - you might want to call someone about that
[15:59] <hatch> see if you can get some free dialup
[15:59] <hatch> :P
[16:01] <gary_poster> hatch gave you review of https://codereview.appspot.com/7429044/ .  LGTM with trivial
[16:02] <hatch> thanks
[16:02] <hatch> much appreciate
[16:04] <hatch> d
[16:05] <teknico> bac, here's the test output: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5573695/
[16:06] <bac> teknico: cool.  so at least my branch isn't breaking things.  i get all kinds of worker/uniter failures
[16:06] <bac> maybe i'll blow that package away and try again
[16:10] <bac> teknico: thanks for taking the time to run those.
[16:11] <teknico> bac, yw
[16:13] <hatch> bcsaller_, have a second to respond to gary's comments on https://codereview.appspot.com/7429044 plz :-)
[16:18] <benji> bac: if you start a "Potential Improvements" list, I have a candidate or two for inclusion.
[16:18] <bac> benji: why don't you do that while i go down the street to fatty's for some fried chicken?
[16:18] <bac> and plantains
[16:19] <benji> I think I am getting the short end of the stick in this deal. :)
[16:19] <hatch> iunno
[16:19] <hatch> bac might die of a heart attack
[16:20] <hatch> from all that fried chicken
[16:20] <hatch> in which case you would be getting the good end
[16:20] <hatch> lets see how this plays out first
[16:20] <hatch> :P
[16:20] <bac> no, it's ok.  i ride my bicycle, so it cancels out
[16:22] <hatch> ohhh well then....carry on!
[16:22] <bac> and i only allow myself to go once a week
[16:22] <hatch> bring me back some popcorn chicken
[16:22] <hatch> :P
[16:23] <benji> gary_poster: is there a new wiki home for yellow (i.e., on wiki.canonical.com instead of dev.launchpad.net)?
[16:23] <gary_poster> benji, no.  interesting question.  is it for public info or private?
[16:23] <gary_poster> we could put something on ubuntu wiki too maybe?  I think there is one.  if it is public
[16:24] <benji> is our "Potential Improvements" list public or private?
[16:25] <gary_poster> benji if we say it nicely it can be public :-)
[16:25] <benji> darn
[16:25] <benji> ;P
[16:25] <gary_poster> :-0
[16:25] <gary_poster> :-)
[16:26] <benji> so... ubuntu wiki then?
[16:26] <gary_poster> I intended the smiley rather than the "gary opens his moth to reveal a single tooth"
[16:26] <gary_poster> mouth
[16:26] <benji> I figured you were so happy with your dental work that you were showing it off.
[16:26] <gary_poster> heh
[16:26] <hatch> haha
[16:27] <hatch> couple of my buddies are dentists.....oh the stories
[16:27] <gary_poster> benji trying to figure out where it might go...https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Teams but looks official-y
[16:27]  * benji invisions a Dali painting with a moth spreading his wings and his thorax is instead a single bicuspid.
[16:28] <gary_poster> disturbing, really
[16:28] <hatch> rofl
[16:28] <benji> the melting clocks will make it all ok
[16:28] <hatch> ^5 benji
[16:28] <gary_poster> oh ok, good
[16:32] <benji> yeah, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BuildingCommunity/CreatingTeamGuide makes it sound like "Teams" are more focused on a single topic.  We could break that mold, but I'm not sure it would be for the best.
[16:32] <benji> ^5 hatch  (I didn't want to leave you hanging)
[16:33] <hatch> oh thanks 
[16:33] <hatch> my arm was getting tired
[16:33] <gary_poster> benji https://wiki.canonical.com/CDO/CloudEngineering/Yellow
[16:33] <gary_poster> have at it and move on :-)
[16:34] <benji> cool, thanks
[16:34] <benji> I wondered why I hadn't seen that before and then I looked at the page history and saw that you just created it.
[16:35] <gary_poster> yes :-)
[16:55] <benji> bac: https://wiki.canonical.com/CDO/CloudEngineering/Yellow/PotentialJujuCoreImprovement
[17:04] <benji> bac: oops, wrong URL: https://wiki.canonical.com/CDO/CloudEngineering/Yellow/PotentialJujuCoreImprovements
[17:04] <gary_poster> hatch, bcsaller, if I read bcsaller's reply correctly (https://codereview.appspot.com/7429044/diff/1/app/app.js#newcode1083) I'm +1 on the switch to Y.Array that I mentioned, and removing the back-compat callback attr
[17:04] <gary_poster> hatch, so if you address my three comments then pleae land away
[17:04] <gary_poster> please
[17:06] <gary_poster> rogpeppe do you have a moment for a quick status update on the megawatcher in https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/7fb7c30f3a232db57dd8549738fb98e723d90d4a ?
[17:06] <hatch> alright I'll take a look - sorry just trying to understand the less workflow
[17:07] <gary_poster> cool hatch.  for less, just edit, and use make devel.  less changes will automatically update so you can just reload
[17:07] <rogpeppe> gary_poster: i'm there :-)
[17:08] <hatch> gary_poster, ahh ok - almost done that ticket
[17:11] <hatch> when the designers say 'pt' do they mean 'px' ?
[17:12] <bac> thanks benji
[17:13] <hatch> I ask because 14pt is a massive header text where 14px looks good
[17:14] <hatch> but they also use px 
[17:15] <gary_poster> hatch ask goodspud 
[17:15] <hatch> oh ok - I didn't know that they were in here :D
[17:15] <gary_poster> we have 45 more minutes of goodspud goodness
[17:15] <goodspud> hatch, we are always watching
[17:15] <goodspud> ... unless we aren't
[17:15] <hatch> uh oh!
[17:15] <hatch> haha
[17:15] <gary_poster> :-)
[17:16] <hatch> so https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-gui/+bug/1125424
[17:16] <_mup_> Bug #1125424: Tweaks to loading messages and login visuals <juju-gui:Triaged by hatch> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/1125424 >
[17:16] <hatch> you will see that someone said 14pt but that makes that header text huge! requiring the warning box to actually increase in width
[17:16] <goodspud> hatch, just chatting with Greg (designer)
[17:17] <hatch> okee
[17:17] <hatch> Ubuntu Medium at 14pt also looks blurry but that could just be my monitor
[17:20] <goodspud> hatch, could you send me a screen shot at 14pt and 14 pixels?
[17:21] <hatch> umm
[17:21] <hatch> yes I just need to find a good screenshot tool :)
[17:21] <hatch> I'm used to working on my mac which has Skitch 
[17:21] <hatch> heh
[17:21] <goodspud> You can just do C<D
[17:21] <goodspud> doh!
[17:21] <gary_poster> hatch printscreen pops something up
[17:22] <goodspud> hatch, yeah, printscreen should work or (on a mac) CMD+shift+4
[17:22] <gary_poster> hatch, otherwise gnome-screenshot
[17:23] <hatch> yeah printscreen will work for this case - I just like skitch's crosshairs so you can select a section of the page and then add text to it
[17:23] <hatch> I'll look into gnome-screenshot afterwards thx
[17:24] <hatch> goodspud, can you pm me your email plz
[17:26] <hatch> ok sent
[17:27] <hatch> I THINK 12pt = 16px
[17:30] <bac> benji did you notice the 'roommate' column has been removed from the sprint wiki?
[17:30] <benji> bac: I didn't.  I guess that means that either we each get a room or we will all be sleeping on the floor of the conference room.
[17:31] <gary_poster> the latter
[17:31] <hatch> yay sleepover!
[17:31] <gary_poster> benji is responsible for the sleeping bags
[17:31] <gary_poster> hatch brings the tents
[17:31]  * benji packs his footy pajamas
[17:31] <gary_poster> lol
[17:31] <hatch> haha - my tent has a solar panel on the root with built in led lighting
[17:31] <hatch> yeah...I'm THAT guy at the camp site
[17:31] <hatch> roof*
[17:31] <gary_poster> I definitely chose the right guy then
[17:32] <benji> is it also bigger on the inside than on the outside?
[17:32] <gary_poster> :-)
[17:32] <hatch> haha
[17:36] <bac> i see on google maps our hotel is right close to "Cabbagetown".  can't wait to find out what that is all about.
[17:37]  * bac practices for georgia by using phrases like "right close" again.
[17:39] <hatch> lol
[17:40] <benji> bac, since I will have a car I can "carry you" places
[17:45] <hatch> benji, do you live close to atlanta?
[17:46] <benji> yep, middle Tennessee (about a 3.5 hour drive)
[17:46] <hatch> ahh cool - I have about an 8h travel time by flight heh
[17:46] <benji> therefore I will be fully versed in the local vernacular
[17:48] <hatch> Ooo - I'm hoping there is a good seafood restaurant near by
[17:49] <hatch> I'm pretty landlocked so I don't get much in the way of fresh seafood :)
[17:49] <hatch> well....salt water seafood
[17:53] <benji> hatch: bac had proposed a trip to a seafood place, but I don't remember if it was fresh water (catfish, etc.) or salt water 
[17:53] <bac> more mud based
[17:53] <bac> crawfish shack
[17:53] <hatch> oooo I'll go@
[17:53] <hatch> !
[17:54] <bac> i saw a reference to it on anthony bourdain's new show.  i added a link to the wiki.  please don't listen when he talks about the unsavory parts of atlanta.
[17:56] <hatch> ehh every city has unsavory parts
[17:58] <hatch> bac, I don't see the link
[17:58] <hatch> which wiki? :)
[17:59] <bac> hatch: the one where i forgot to press 'save'.  it is there now.  https://wiki.canonical.com/CDO/Sprints/JujuEcosystemSprintMarch13
[17:59] <hatch> :D
[18:01] <hatch> looks like it's also lunch time so I'll watch the vid now :)
[18:14] <Makyo> Ugh, tried reproposing with -for, still wants to merge into the wrong branch.
[18:25] <Makyo> One more try...
[18:33] <bac> benji: ping
[18:34] <Makyo> Fixed, sorry if that leads to extra emails.
[18:35] <benji> bac: what's up?
[18:36] <benji> (I'm lunching)
[18:36] <bac> benji: not much, just trying to figure out how the 'deny' mechanism works.  ping me when you're back.
[18:36] <benji> k; it'll be about 20 minutes
[18:42] <bac> benji: ok
[18:53] <hatch> bac, oh that guy is quite the character haha (just finished watching the video)
[19:01] <benji> bac: I'm looking at the deny bits now.
[19:08] <hatch> *sigh* I long for chrome dev tools in FF
[19:12] <hatch> the log out panel is wrapped in an unnamed div which is causing it's position to be incorrectly calculated - can someone point me to where this panel is created?
[19:12] <gary_poster> hatch, maybe index.html?  not quite sure what you mean by panel in context
[19:13] <hatch> ok when you go and click 'log out' a panel is shown
[19:13] <hatch> or the 'log in' panel I suppose
[19:13] <gary_poster> oh, to enter your password hatch?
[19:13] <gary_poster> that's on index.html
[19:13] <gary_poster> pretty sure
[19:15] <benji> bac: I think I have figured out the allow/deny bits (those in state/api/api_test.go at least)
[19:16] <bac> benji: you want to chat?
[19:16] <benji> I also think there is a bug or at least a mis-design in that functionality.  There is nothing guarding against someone having both allow and deny set for a test, if so only the deny will be tested and the allow will be ignored
[19:16] <hatch> gary_poster, no such luck - it's in the handlebars rollup I'm just not sure where those are stored
[19:16] <benji> sure; how about the regular hangout if no one is in there
[19:16] <hatch> I can find them though :)
[19:16] <bac> benji: i think the opposite.  note the early return in the allow part
[19:17] <gary_poster> hatch, oh!  app/templates/login.handlebars ?
[19:17] <benji> bac: yep, you're right
[19:17] <benji> the regulr place is free
[19:17] <hatch> oh son of a.....sublime didn't show that folder (`watch` issue again)
[19:18] <hatch> thanks
[19:18] <hatch> :D
[19:18] <gary_poster> :-) np
[19:31] <hatch> ok branch is done and proposed - so I have three screenshots, should I add them to the bug? Or is there another preferred place for them? 
[19:32] <hatch> ^ gary_poster 
[19:32] <gary_poster> bug is fine, and then give links to designers
[19:32] <hatch> goodspud_, you shouldn't have come back...I just pushed the changes ;)
[19:32] <goodspud_> :)
[19:33] <goodspud_> I'm sure it's all perfect
[19:34] <gary_poster> hatch, https://codereview.appspot.com/7429044/ just needs a few tweaks then you can land it
[19:34] <gary_poster> if it's not clear what they are we can have quick call
[19:35] <hatch> goodspud_, hah! https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-gui/+bug/1125424 in the right column at the bottom are the three screen shots
[19:35] <_mup_> Bug #1125424: Tweaks to loading messages and login visuals <juju-gui:In Progress by hatch> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/1125424 >
[19:35] <hatch> gary_poster, sure thing let me check that out
[19:37] <goodspud_> hatch: looks good. 
[19:37] <hatch> great - so do you comment on https://codereview.appspot.com/7452043/ ?
[19:39] <goodspud_> hatch. done
[19:39] <hatch> awesome
[19:39] <goodspud_> Time for my dinner. Catch you all tomorrow
[19:39] <hatch> so does this workflow work pretty good for you?
[19:39] <hatch> okee :) cya
[19:39] <hatch> enjoy dinner
[19:39] <goodspud_> hatch, yes
[19:43] <benji> bac: I am 90% sure that maps in go are magic, and that is why you can assign the results of a map lookup to either one or two variables
[19:45] <hatch> gary_poster, so just to clarify that I understand the comments on 7429044 - we will remove the backwards compatibility because multiple callbacks can't be supported anyways - and - a result of that we no longer need to flatten so we can simply create an array of routes
[19:58] <hatch> bcsaller_, the callbacks 'backwards compatibility' section on the namespace branch - is that required? I don't think you commented on that directly
[19:59] <bcsaller_> hatch: I was trying to say that I think our codebase has been cleared of any references but I don't know if YUI depends on it anywhere
[20:00] <bcsaller_> I suspect removing it the tests will all still pass, but we don't test dispatch very well so I just left it in there 
[20:01] <hatch> oh ok sorry I misunderstood - I'll make a note and leave it in - I was reading the YUI tests of router last night and I think once I split this stuff out into an extension then we will be able to properly test this stuff
[20:20] <benji> Granted, it's early going, but I'm not real keen on go's decision that getters should just be the name of the thing being retrieved.
[20:22] <hatch> I'm not sure I follow
[20:22] <hatch> need one more review on some css https://codereview.appspot.com/7452043/
[20:24] <benji> if a method returns a value (say a unit's status) then instead of being named something like "GetStatus" it is simply named "Status"
[20:24] <benji> Asymmetrically, setters are still named like "SetStatus".
[20:25] <benji> At least they don't use the idiom I've seen in some JS of having a method named "status" that if called with a value is a setter and if called without one is a getter.  I had to lie down for a little while after I saw that for the first time.
[20:26] <gary_poster> hatch sorry was on call.  reading
[20:26] <hatch> ugh I hate inconsistent api's
[20:26] <hatch> gary_poster, ben already answered my q's and it's been submitted :)
[20:26] <gary_poster> great  hatch, thanks.
[20:27] <hatch> benji, I spent a while in PHP - if you want inconsistent api's....that's your language 
[20:27] <hatch> foo_bar or fooBar ? needle, haystack or haystack, needle? 
[20:27] <hatch> lol
[20:27] <benji> yep, PHP takes the cake
[20:29] <hatch> gary_poster, I just need one more to sign off on my less changes then that ticket can also go away
[20:31] <gary_poster> ok hatch looking
[20:33] <hatch> hmm it looks like the rail from the airport to the hotel isn't that bad
[20:33] <hatch> anyone else planning to take the rail?
[20:34] <gary_poster> hatch, if you mean MARTA, yes
[20:34] <gary_poster> haven't looked at it het
[20:34] <gary_poster> yet
[20:34] <gary_poster> hatch approved your branch
[20:34] <gary_poster> you need another code review though
[20:34] <gary_poster> 2 code + 1 design if UX is involved
[20:34] <hatch> gary_poster, http://goo.gl/maps/yWAay it looks pretty straight forward
[20:35] <hatch> ohh ok 
[20:35] <gary_poster> hatch, cool, no changes
[20:36] <hatch> nope just hop on at the airport and then a block walk 
[20:36] <hatch> I don't even think a city bus goes to our airport lol
[20:46] <benji> interesting, there is no NotEquals checker in launchpad.net/gocheck
[20:54] <rogpeppe> benji: Not(Equals)
[20:54] <rogpeppe> benji: and there's NotNil as well, which is (interestingly) slightly different
[20:54] <benji> rogpeppe: heh, I was just looking for a negation operator in there, thanks!
[20:55] <benji> yeah, the existence of NotNill threw me off initially
[20:55] <rogpeppe> benji: nil is a little special when you're dealing with interfaces.
[20:56] <rogpeppe> benji: because interface{}((sometype*)(nil)) != nil
[20:56] <benji> If I understood that sequence of symbols I'm sure I would now be enlightened. ;)
[20:56] <rogpeppe> benji: the left hand expression is just a sequence of type conversions
[20:57] <hatch> gary_poster, so are you alright with be getting back on that scaffold?
[20:57] <rogpeppe> benji: nil converted to *sometype (oops, got that wrong) converted to interface{}
[20:57] <benji> ah, so casting nil to a pointer to any interface is not nil?
[20:57] <rogpeppe> benji: in general typeExpression(foo) converts foo to the given type (assuming it's assignment compatible)
[20:58] <rogpeppe> benji: an interface value is not nil if the underlying value has any concrete type
[21:05] <rogpeppe> benji: this might be of some help: http://play.golang.org/p/r2DfTUbasP
[21:06] <gary_poster> hatch, +1
[21:08] <hatch> this may be a case of looking in the wrong place - but do we not 'render' the app anywhere?
[21:12] <bcsaller_> index calls it once
[21:14] <bcsaller_> use to anyway
[21:15] <hatch> :)
[21:19] <hatch> yeah I'm baffled
[21:24] <hatch> bcsaller_, I'm pretty confident that it isn't being called
[21:25] <hatch> when you render an app yui3-app class gets added to the container
[21:28] <hatch> I guess it doesn't really matter - would be a good point of investigation though
[21:40] <hatch> gary_poster, bcsaller_ do we want to render all subapps on registration? 
[21:41] <gary_poster> on call will think later
[21:41] <hatch> issue I'm running into is that the namespace is calling methods on the subapps but they aren't rendered
[21:41] <hatch> deal
[21:42] <bcsaller_> hatch: I suspect not, though a callback or event when registered would allow that 
[21:42] <hatch> yeah I wasn't thinking so either
[21:42] <hatch> so will need to lazy-render these subapps
[21:43] <hatch> **will this never end!!!!**
[21:43] <hatch> heh
[21:53] <hatch> awesome that works
[21:55] <Makyo> Got go env sorta set up, but test complains there are no Go source files in $GOPATH/src/launchpad.net/juju-core  Did I miss a step?
[21:56] <Makyo> guihelp ^^^ (not sure who to ping specifically)
[21:56] <hatch> could I get a quick less review on https://codereview.appspot.com/7452043/ thx
[21:56] <hazmat> Makyo, i'd blow away and refetch assuming its not a branch
[21:56] <hazmat> just the juju-core dir
[21:56] <hazmat> and use -v on go get
[21:57] <Makyo> hazmat, Alright.
[22:00] <Makyo> hazmat, no luck :/ can't load package: package launchpad.net/juju-core: no Go source files in /home/makyo/work/juju-core/src/launchpad.net/juju-core
[22:01] <hazmat> hmm
[22:02] <hazmat> Makyo,  what command are you running to test?
[22:02] <Makyo> go test -gocheck.v
[22:02] <Makyo> I've also tried specifying go test -gocheck.v launchpad.net/juju-core/...
[22:03] <hazmat> Makyo, the later should work though the flag needs to come last i'm told
[22:03] <hazmat> Makyo, does go test launchpad.net/juju-core/...  work?
[22:06] <hazmat> there aren't any source files directly in the juju-core directory which leads to that message.. tests need to be run in a dir with go source files.. or spec'd as top level recurse 
[22:06] <bac> Makyo: best i can tell, -gocheck.v is not recursive
[22:07] <bac> so you can do 'go test launchpad.net/juju-core/...' from anywhere as long as GOPATH is correct
[22:07] <Makyo> URK.
[22:07] <bac> or you can cd into a specific directory and do 'go test -gocheck.v[v]' and only get those tests
[22:07] <Makyo> Works quite well, thanks hazmat.
[22:07] <Makyo> Blows up my computer pretty well.
[22:07] <hazmat> cool
[22:07] <hazmat> testing is hard work ;-)
[22:10] <hazmat> speaking of go build/test issues anyone seen.. pack: cannot open $WORK/labix.org/v2/mgo/_test/_go_.8  i get that on most of the packages
[22:11] <hazmat> oh.. dev version of go maybe
[22:12] <hazmat> yeah.. that was it mixed a tip and stable versions
[22:24] <hatch> oh this is beautiful
[22:24]  * Makyo -> dogwalk
[22:35] <hatch> bcsaller_, if you're still around I'd like your input on the lazy rendering code https://codereview.appspot.com/7444046/
[22:35] <gary_poster> hatch I was on call and then catching up on mail before leaving. do you have review you want?
[22:36] <hatch> oh umm lemme check sorry I just finished the delay rendering code
[22:36] <hatch> I still need one more code review on the css layout changes
[22:36] <hatch> and if you would like to weigh in on the lazy render code that would be great
[22:36] <gary_poster> k trying
[22:39] <gary_poster> hatch I already gave you a review of https://codereview.appspot.com/7452043/.  That's the CSS one, right?
[22:39] <hatch> yep
[22:40] <gary_poster> Maybe ask Makyo to look at it?  The coder is responsible for drumming up reviewers :-)
[22:43] <gary_poster> hatch, https://codereview.appspot.com/7444046/ LGTM with trivial
[22:43] <gary_poster> need to run.  night all
[22:43] <hatch> thanks, have a good night!
[22:43] <gary_poster> you too
[23:00] <Makyo> hatch, which branch?
[23:00] <Makyo> Lazy render?
[23:03]  * Makyo reviews it anyway, already open.
[23:05] <hatch> hey Makyo sorry I stepped away
[23:05] <Makyo> No worries :)
[23:05] <hatch> umm the css one https://codereview.appspot.com/7452043/
[23:05] <hatch> if you have time :)
[23:05] <hatch> well both really
[23:05] <hatch> hah
[23:05] <hatch> :D
[23:06] <Makyo> Hah, alright.  On it.
[23:07] <hatch> thanks!
[23:15] <bac> hazmat: you around?
[23:16] <hatch> Makyo, thanks for the reviews
[23:18] <bac> hazmat: i'll ask anyway:  i am using cobzr, am in the 'master' checkout of juju-core, and see it is on rev 949.  i do a 'go get -u -v launchpad.net/juju-core/...' and it does stuff.  however, juju-core is still shown to be rev 949.  i then do a 'bzr pull lp:juju-core' and it fetches rev 950.  what's going on?  why didn't 'go get' go get it?
[23:42] <Makyo> hatch, re: @ubuntu-font, I just meant a definition at the top of the stylesheet: @ubuntu-font: Ubuntu Medium, Helvetica, Ariel;  However, it turns out there already is one, and you can just do font-family: @font-family;
[23:42] <Makyo> I know you just submitted, but yeah, future reference thing.
[23:42] <Makyo> Sorry, @font-family-medium;
[23:42] <hatch> ohh I thought you were referring to an actual font file....oops :)
[23:43] <Makyo> No worries.  Just a LESS thing.  And boy howdy is that file big now.
[23:43] <hatch> I actually want to split the less file up into modules at some point
[23:43] <hatch> that'll probably be a slack task
[23:46] <Makyo> Yeah, for sure.