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vibhavGood Morning05:08
JoseeAntonioRhello, vibhav :)05:10
vibhavhey JoseeAntonioR05:11
pleia2jcastro: pretty sure the answer to this is "yes" - can you confirm with Tanya? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-community/+bug/96273805:13
ubot2`Launchpad bug 962738 in ubuntu-website-content "ubuntu.com/contribute doesn't exist." [Undecided,Confirmed]05:13
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dholbachgood morning07:23
elfymorning dholbach07:27
dholbachhi elfy07:27
JoseeAntonioRmorning, mr. Holbach07:27
elfyhow's things07:28
elfyhi JoseeAntonioR07:28
JoseeAntonioRhey elfy!07:28
dholbachgood good - how are you? :)07:34
elfydholbach: good here thanks - just waiting to turn off the forum now - no trolls, no spam, no whining07:35
elfy4 or 5 hours of peace :p07:35
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bkerensaelfy: \o/08:02
elfyhi bkerensa08:02
bkerensaelfy: glad the forums are finally moving forward08:03
elfyyep - us too08:03
elfyI think this upgrade has been floating about for getting on for 4 years - I know the ticket is 2 years old08:04
bkerensa=o08:07
dholbachunfortunately it involved a lot of very busy people and finding somebody who could port the plugin08:08
elfysuch is life - bridges/water etc08:08
elfydholbach: for 4 years ...08:09
elfymore that the upgrade got SSO chucked at it halfway through and it came to a grinding halt ;)08:09
dholbachI don't understand the last sentence08:09
elfySSO got added to the mix - it all ground to a halt with no-one doing anything at all - till sometime last year08:10
elfyI'm not complaining :)08:11
dholbachI share your frustration that it took so long, but I understand that SSO was made a requirement at some stage08:11
bkerensaelfy: you guys have sql dumps right?08:11
elfyyea - not at the beginning :)08:11
dholbachthere were long periods where nobody moved the ticket forward at all08:11
elfybut heyho such is life it's moving now :)08:12
bkerensaelfy: I have seen big vbulletin upgrades that are of large scale go horrible :)08:12
elfybkerensa: the upgrade on staging worked ok :)08:12
bkerensaelfy: nice08:13
bkerensaelfy: I will miss my beans ;p08:13
dholbachI guess what I'm trying to say is the obvious knee-jerk reaction is: "it's IS' fault" and while the ticket TOOK LONG to get done, it might be worth to look at the whole history of the ticket (and maybe before) and try to figure out what could be done better in the future08:13
czajkowskialoha08:13
dholbach(and I'm not saying that you were blaming IS)08:13
bkerensadholbach: IS are super busy people :) I have been bribing the IS manager for a year to come to a debian beering08:14
czajkowskielmo ?08:15
bkerensambarnett08:15
elfydholbach: I've not blamed IS - FC doesn't either :)08:16
* dholbach hugs you all08:16
pleia2we blame sabdfl ;)08:16
bkerensaczajkowski: is james his boss?08:16
elfy:)08:16
dholbachhaha08:16
dholbachI'll take the dog for a walk - see you in a bit :)08:16
elfybkerensa: not sure why you miss your beans - but the forum ones will be there waiting for you08:17
bkerensaelfy: I thought they were leaving with the new design? hmm08:17
elfynope08:18
elfythere was talk at one point08:18
bkerensa\o/ yay for coffee beans08:19
elfy:)08:23
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czajkowskihttp://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13970_7-57571750-78/ubuntu-touch-beats-firefox-os-to-win-best-of-mwc-from-cnet/   whoooooo :-)12:01
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dpmczajkowski, \o/13:47
czajkowskiit's good right :)13:47
jcastropleia2: who is tanya?14:21
jcastromhall119: I know we're not autoscheduling, but like, how do I add the plenaries?14:21
jcastroerr, the keynotes I mean14:21
cjohnstonjcastro: in the admin as always14:32
jcastrohttp://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1303/admin/ ?14:36
jcastrosorry I have not done this in like 2 years14:36
smartboyhwjcastro, "This page does not exist":P14:36
smartboyhwjcastro, TIME ERROR14:37
smartboyhwIt says 2PM-8PM on the main page while in Launchpad it is 4PM-10PM14:37
jcastroI know, I don't know where the admin panel is14:39
jcastrooh, just /admin at the root14:39
jcastro\p/14:39
smartboyhwLOL14:39
jcastropleia2: oh nm, I see the bug now, looks like Ben got it14:39
smartboyhwjcastro, how does one create sessions? (Just asking)14:40
mhall119smartboyhw: plenary sessions or regular sessions?14:40
smartboyhwmhall119, both if you are willing to tell:P (More about regular)14:40
mhall119smartboyhw: plenaries you have to talk to jcastro14:41
mhall119regular sessions usually you create a blueprint for the appropriate track14:41
mhall119and get it approved by the track lead14:41
jcastromhall119: ok so I'm clear, the form on the front of summit that used to be there, we're not using that?14:44
jcastroI just need to know if I can use the easy form or if I use the django admin panel of usability awesomeness14:46
smartboyhwmhall119, ah14:47
cjohnstonjcastro: it isnt there because we havent started importing, I believe14:57
cjohnstonjcastro: if we start importing, I *think* it will show up14:57
cjohnstonthough you will have to be given the perms for it14:57
czajkowskijcastro: just being asked by folks any idea the scheule will be up and finalsied folks are trying to arrange time off14:57
jcastrook14:58
jcastroI'll wait a few hours I guess14:58
cjohnstonthe schedule is never finalised until its over... it always has the possibilty of changing to meet needs that come up14:58
cjohnstonmhall119: thoughts on starting the import?14:58
mhall119cjohnston: as long as IS has disabled the autoschedule/reschedule crons, I'm +114:59
cjohnstonok14:59
czajkowskicjohnston: well one would definately hope that's minimal this time considering it's virtual and people have a weeks notice to try and arrange these things14:59
mhall119czajkowski: March 5-6, 2pm - 8pm UTC, should be the final dates and times14:59
czajkowskimhall119: yes dates/time I'd hope woudnt be moved :)15:00
czajkowskibut content is what I'm looking for15:00
smartboyhwmhall119, in the Launchpad it is 16:00 UTC....15:00
smartboyhwWhich basically means 4PM15:00
mhall119czajkowski: content doesn't exist yes15:00
mhall119but yes, it should hopefully not change15:00
czajkowskimhall119: thank you!15:00
mhall119czajkowski: summit won't be auto-scheduling or rescheduling this time, so any changes will be due to track leads manually changing it15:00
czajkowskimhall119: that's what I was trying to make sure and cjohnston said the scheduler would be on15:01
cjohnstonI did not say that15:01
czajkowskithats how it read15:03
czajkowskischeduler is on and has the possibility of changing15:03
cjohnstonit has the possibilty of changing.. never said anything about the scheduler.15:04
czajkowskijcastro: tanya works in the bluefinn she's the new PM  for the web team15:06
czajkowskiairurando1: boo15:26
czajkowskiwelcome :)15:26
airurando1hi czajkowski15:30
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smartboyhwmhall119, in the main uds.ubuntu.com it says 2PM-8PM, but in Launchpad page it says 4PM-10PM (all UTC). Which one is correct?15:48
popey2-815:48
smartboyhwpopey, YEAH15:49
* smartboyhw can finally join in the fun15:49
smartboyhwjono, can you confirm? ^15:53
cjohnston2-815:56
popeysmartboyhw: it's 2-815:56
jonojcastro, can you fix the LP page^15:56
jcastroI'm in a call right now15:57
jcastroanyone in drivers can fix it15:57
cjohnstonjcastro: I don't have edit rights15:57
cjohnstonand im in drivers15:57
smartboyhwpopey, yes15:58
smartboyhwjo-erlend, I'm happy that it's now 2-815:58
jcastrook15:59
jcastroso 1600-200?15:59
cjohnston1400-200015:59
jcastrodone16:00
cjohnstonty16:00
vibhavMan, I will have to miss this UDS.16:13
vibhav(Exams)16:13
cjohnstonjcastro: try summit again please16:38
cprofittI will try to make a few sessions this UDS, but not enough time to take off from work to try to make the entire thing16:45
cprofittvibhav: good luck on your exams16:48
vibhavcprofitt: thanks :)16:58
mhall119jono: can you please check the slot times and let me know if they are correct17:06
mhall119http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1303/2013-03-05/17:06
jonomhall119, looks good17:07
jonobut on the Wed the first time slot is a session not a keynote17:07
mhall119ok17:07
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jonothanks mhall11917:08
mhall119jono: fixed17:08
jonomhall119, is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDS/Create up to date with how to create sessions using the new tracks?17:13
jonojcastro, how is the plenary and lightning talks prep going?17:15
JoseeAntonioRjono: it's still got the old tracks, and linking to summit.u.c/uds-q17:17
jonoyeah17:17
jonomhall119, can you look at fixing that17:17
jonodpm, jcastro can you help mhall119 with this too?17:17
mhall119jono: what does?17:18
jonomhall119, eh?17:18
mhall119sorry, for JoseeAntonioR17:18
czajkowskiwhy ?17:18
mhall119I'm just to lazy to type 3 letters before tab-completing17:18
jonomhall119, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDS/Create doesn't seem to accurately reflect the online UDS17:18
JoseeAntonioRmhall119: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDS/Create17:18
jonoit should reflect the new tracks17:19
dpmjono, sure. mhall119, what do you need help with?17:19
mhall119ok, I'll fix the tracks, the rest is just examples that should still be valid17:19
jonomhall119, yeah it just needs a sanity check to ensure everything applies to the new UDS17:20
mhall119ok17:22
rrnwexecrequest for help: can someone who has access to the ubuntu twitter account post a Jam announcement?17:23
rrnwexecthis is the announcment, from Brazil: http://www.ubuntubrsc.com/ubuntu-global-jam-brazil-2013.html17:27
jonomhall119, hey17:41
jonoso some outstanding questions:17:41
jono 1. can people name their blueprints with whatever they like and use the Sprint setting to assign them to the UDS? this will allow people to maintain team names in the blueprint definitions for status.u.c17:42
mhall119jono: if they don't follow the naming convention with regard to track, they won't be assigned to the right track when imported into Summit17:43
jonomhall119, right, so they need to specify the track name17:44
mhall119yes17:44
jonomhall119, but then how are those BPs tracked in status.u.c?17:44
mhall119the -1303- might be optional17:44
jonomhall119, ok17:44
mhall119jono: status.u.c uses a series milestone, not sprint, if I understood cjohnston correctly17:44
mhall119so when the BP is assigned to a series milestone on the Ubuntu project, it will be imported to status.u.c for that milestones17:45
jonomhall119, ok, we should have a page on /UDS that explains this - can you add this?17:45
mhall119jono: I'll add it to my list17:46
jonomhall119, also can you update https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDS/Create to specify the specific track names for naming blueprints (E.g. is it serverandcloud or cloudandserver)17:46
mhall119jono: it should already be on there, but I'll double check and clarify if needed17:47
jonomhall119, ahhh17:48
jonojust split client-1303-kernel-decision servercloud-1303-openstack-integration client-1303-wallpapers appdev-1303-python-transition  into bullets17:48
jonothat makes it clearer17:48
JoseeAntonioRdholbach: hey, you didn't get to do the hangout, right?17:50
dholbachJoseeAntonioR, no, I'm sorry - I'll get it rescheduled17:50
JoseeAntonioRno worries :)17:50
mhall119jono: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDS/Create#Name better?17:51
dholbachall right, I call it a day - got to do some shopping because some folks come over and expect food :-D18:02
dholbachsee you tomorrow!18:02
dpmmhall119, jono, sorry, I need to run, is there anything I can help regarding UDS and can I do it tomorrow morning?18:08
jonodpm, nope, all good18:08
jonothanks18:08
dpmok, see you all tomorrow, then!18:09
jonoJoseeAntonioR, hey18:25
jonoso at 10am tomorrow I am going to use Ubuntu On Air to host the rick hangout18:26
jonojust a FYI18:26
cjohnstonjono: we need something more prominent than a wiki page about how to name blueprints.. there are all sorts of naming conventions being used, but almost all of them are wrong.18:26
jonocjohnston, suggestions?18:27
popeywhat's that in proper time jono ?18:27
cjohnstonI suggested sending out an email to all of the lists that the initial UDS email was sent to.18:28
czajkowskipopey: 6pm UTc18:28
cjohnstonI typed one up, but was then told to hold off.18:28
jonopopey, 6pm18:29
czajkowskiFriday 27th Feb at 6pm UTC / 10am18:29
czajkowskiPacific / 1pm EST18:29
popeyballs18:29
popeyI'll miss that, Sam goes swimming18:29
popeychange it damn you!18:29
czajkowskihe did folow up and say the 1st not the 27th :)18:29
jonopopey, will be recorded :-)18:29
jonoczajkowski, yeah :-)18:29
popey18:29
jonowe are never good with dates and times18:29
jonolol18:29
jonoyou all see http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13970_7-57571750-78/ubuntu-touch-beats-firefox-os-to-win-best-of-mwc-from-cnet/ ?18:29
jonoawesome :-)18:29
cjohnstonjono: for example, the blueprint that is being used for the RR thread is named wrong... so it should be changed, but doing so will make all the links to it not valid18:30
jonocjohnston, right18:32
jonounfortunately not much we can do about that18:32
jonoI guess the BP could be superceded18:32
rrnwexecthe firefox leader didn't seem to be very cheerful in the MWC discussion with Mark. borderline annoyed actually.18:32
cjohnstonIt could be renamed and just reply to the list with the updated link18:33
popeyrrnwexec: i agree18:33
popeylots of personality on that stage18:34
czajkowskiI found her very annoying, she'd interrupt and then decided she'd wanted to say something18:34
czajkowskishe seemed very unfriendly18:35
popeynone of them are professional public speakers, all in front of a barrage of potential engineers, customers and partners. I wouldn't fancy that job either. They did pretty well.18:35
pleia2ubuntuforums.org update complete :D :D18:40
czajkowskipopey: well, you could say all speak as part of their jobs so are professional at this stage, the other two just came across friendlier I guess18:41
* popey shrugs18:43
czajkowskiThis is rather depressing but also rather true. http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_IP-13-165_en.htm18:57
popeyjcastro: you going to http://www.oscon.com/oscon2013/public/content/exhibitors ?19:02
popey(or do you know who is)19:03
pleia2czajkowski: this is a good post: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/joan-williams/women-dont-negotiate_b_2593106.html19:12
pleia2(though if you read it I may need to start sending jack+coke by the case)19:13
czajkowskiI'm  off coke atm :(19:14
czajkowskiand so need one for my JD, drinking it neat could be trouble :)19:15
pleia2so, straight jack then? :)19:15
pleia2hehe19:15
popeywuss! :D19:16
popeyYou women and your equality.. Drink damnit!19:16
popeyor is that not the right approach?19:16
pleia2only one way to find out19:16
popeyhah19:16
popeyThanks for doing the interview with us yesterday pleia2, it went really well!19:17
pleia2sure :) I had fun19:17
czajkowskiohh19:17
czajkowskiwhen does it get aired ?19:17
pleia2the 7th19:17
czajkowskisweet :D19:18
pleia2talking about xubuntu19:18
pleia2(thankfully, I am about through with "I want to talk about women in tech")19:18
pleia2I have an awesome job, ask me about that :)19:18
czajkowskiw00t19:18
IdleOneDid the negotiations go the way you expected ?19:23
IdleOne:)19:23
jcastrowhoa!19:55
jcastrothe forums came back way earlier than I thought19:55
jonomhall119, hey20:02
jonomhall119, so /UDS is complete?20:02
jcastrook back mhall11920:05
JoseeAntonioRjono: just read the rick hangout thing, can you give me some details to add it to the cal?20:05
JoseeAntonioRis it a Q&A, or what?20:05
jcastromhall119: woo, I see the Create a meeting now, AWESOME.20:06
jcastrojono: bah, it scrolled outta my buffer, the three keynotes are ... "Introduction" Jono, "Keynote" Mark, and intro of tech leads? I know the times, just the titles20:06
jonoJoseeAntonioR, it is to discuss the Rolling Release Proposal20:08
jonoJoseeAntonioR, it will be a presentation followed by Q+A20:09
jonojcastro, this is it:20:09
jono * 2pm - 2.10pm - Jono Bacon, Introduction20:09
jonojcastro, actually20:09
jonothis:20:09
jono * 2pm - 2.15pm - Jono Bacon, Introduction20:09
jcastroright, 15, 30, 15 is what you told me last time20:09
jono * 2.15pm - 2.40pm - Rick Spencer, Keynote20:10
jono2.40pm - 3pm - Track Lead Introductions20:10
jcastroI made up some descriptions, but we can tweak those after they get on the schedule20:11
jcastro"Do whatever you please, but wait until next version, I have already submitted a wallpaper for this version's contest!"20:12
jcastrohah20:12
mhall119jono: /UDS still needs content onthe G+ Hangout page, but that's for participation, it shouldn't  block people getting stuff on the schedule20:15
jonomhall119, cool, I sent out the scheduling details20:15
mhall119http://mhall119.com/2013/02/will-you-have-ubuntu-touch-at-your-jam/20:16
mhall119rrnwexec: ^^20:16
JoseeAntonioRjono: added to the calendar, and updated the page20:19
jonothanks JoseeAntonioR20:21
JoseeAntonioRjono: this is a response to your Q&A video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jozg-HXCNpU&feature=em-video_response_received20:29
jcastrowoo, our first plenary is filed!20:42
jcastro3 more slots to go!20:42
jonojcastro, did you schedule the keynotes?21:09
jcastrothey're in the system21:11
jcastromhall119: how do I make them fit in the first slot?21:11
rrnwexecmhall119: Awesome post. thank you!!21:17
popeyjcastro: you going to oscon?21:30
popeyfriend of mine works for rackspace and is asking who we're sending21:31
mhall119jcastro: what do you mean?21:32
jcastropopey: yeah, assuming my talk gets accepted21:32
mhall119jcastro: as long as they are a plenary type, you can add them to the plenary slot21:33
jcastromhall119: so I submitted the keynotes as type plenary21:33
jcastrooh dude, the edit button thing21:34
jcastropopey: ideally it'll be full force, with mark keynote etc.21:34
jcastrobut give him my contact info21:34
* cjohnston notes that jcastro needs to not be so detached from Summit21:34
cjohnston;-)21:34
popeyok21:35
jcastrowell stop improving things!21:35
jcastrooh, found a bug too cjohnston21:35
cjohnstonwhat21:35
jcastrowhen you go to schedule21:35
jcastrothe sidebar thing you know21:35
jcastrothat view seems busted in chrome/ff here, screenshotting now21:36
jcastrohttp://imgur.com/8nJR0xJ21:36
jcastroI get that in both FF and chrome21:36
cjohnstonblame mhall11921:37
cjohnstonhe hasn't created rooms21:37
cjohnstonits not a bug21:37
cjohnstonit just doesnt have data21:37
jcastrook21:37
jcastromhall119: create "rooms" please!21:37
jcastrocjohnston: also, if no data exists, don't break the layout!21:37
cjohnstonjcastro: mhall119, we need a plenary room, and then whatever 2x rooms per track21:37
cjohnstonjcastro: we shouldn't be scheduling before rooms exist, therefor the view doesn't really exist21:38
cjohnstonbut you begged me to let you create meetings, so now you can create meetings, but mhall119 hasn't created rooms so layout broken21:38
jcastroyou floridians never make sense to me21:38
* cjohnston files a bug against jcastro 21:39
cjohnstonlol21:39
rrnwexeccould rooms be reused from last event since they're labels only? (just a dumb suggestion)21:39
cjohnstonrrnwexec: they are going to be track related21:39
jcastro"Client" and so on I assume?21:39
cjohnstoneither way, we would still have to recreate the rooms, they are tied to a single summit21:39
cjohnstonjcastro: I believe its going be something like "Plenary" "Client 1" "Client 2" "S&C 1" "S&C2"21:40
jcastrowell, my sessions are in there, so like, I'm 90% there, as long as my data is safe21:40
cjohnstonand then for the irc channel it needs to be #ubuntu-uds-client1 #ubuntu-uds-client2, etc21:40
cjohnstonjcastro: its safew21:40
cjohnstonsafe21:40
cjohnstonEOD. G'nite all.21:41
jcastroEOD too, finishing up on mail and then off to the rink! TT y'all later.21:41
jcastro\o/ ROLLING21:41
mhall119jcastro: jcastro: rooms have been created21:43
jcastro\o/21:45
jcastrohey, so like I need to modify the meetings, I forgot to mark 2 as plenary21:45
jcastrowould messing with them in /admin be bad?21:45
mhall119jcastro: that's the only way21:47
mhall119I made rick's a plenary and scheduled it21:47
jcastrook, so I won't break anything21:47
mhall119jcastro: let me know if you need the plenary slots broken into smaller chunks of time21:47
jcastrook so there are 2 more21:47
jcastrowe need this:21:47
jcastro14-14:1521:47
jcastro14:15-14:4521:48
jcastro14:45-15:0021:48
jcastroI made the other two, I just need the slot21:48
mhall119ok, give me a minute21:48
jcastroI need the "afternoon" plenaries to be 15 minutes, but that can wait until tomorrow21:48
jcastroand for Wed its just 1 block for "Lightning talks" anyway21:49
mhall119jcastro: done21:50
mhall119for the morning one21:50
mhall119jcastro: should be all set21:53

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