[05:08] Good Morning [05:10] hello, vibhav :) [05:11] hey JoseeAntonioR [05:13] jcastro: pretty sure the answer to this is "yes" - can you confirm with Tanya? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-community/+bug/962738 [05:13] Launchpad bug 962738 in ubuntu-website-content "ubuntu.com/contribute doesn't exist." [Undecided,Confirmed] === hobgoblin is now known as elfy [07:23] good morning [07:27] morning dholbach [07:27] hi elfy [07:27] morning, mr. Holbach [07:28] how's things [07:28] hi JoseeAntonioR [07:28] hey elfy! [07:34] good good - how are you? :) [07:35] dholbach: good here thanks - just waiting to turn off the forum now - no trolls, no spam, no whining [07:35] 4 or 5 hours of peace :p === vibhav is now known as Guest98376 [08:02] elfy: \o/ [08:02] hi bkerensa [08:03] elfy: glad the forums are finally moving forward [08:03] yep - us too [08:04] I think this upgrade has been floating about for getting on for 4 years - I know the ticket is 2 years old [08:07] =o [08:08] unfortunately it involved a lot of very busy people and finding somebody who could port the plugin [08:08] such is life - bridges/water etc [08:09] dholbach: for 4 years ... [08:09] more that the upgrade got SSO chucked at it halfway through and it came to a grinding halt ;) [08:09] I don't understand the last sentence [08:10] SSO got added to the mix - it all ground to a halt with no-one doing anything at all - till sometime last year [08:11] I'm not complaining :) [08:11] I share your frustration that it took so long, but I understand that SSO was made a requirement at some stage [08:11] elfy: you guys have sql dumps right? [08:11] yea - not at the beginning :) [08:11] there were long periods where nobody moved the ticket forward at all [08:12] but heyho such is life it's moving now :) [08:12] elfy: I have seen big vbulletin upgrades that are of large scale go horrible :) [08:12] bkerensa: the upgrade on staging worked ok :) [08:13] elfy: nice [08:13] elfy: I will miss my beans ;p [08:13] I guess what I'm trying to say is the obvious knee-jerk reaction is: "it's IS' fault" and while the ticket TOOK LONG to get done, it might be worth to look at the whole history of the ticket (and maybe before) and try to figure out what could be done better in the future [08:13] aloha [08:13] (and I'm not saying that you were blaming IS) [08:14] dholbach: IS are super busy people :) I have been bribing the IS manager for a year to come to a debian beering [08:15] elmo ? [08:15] mbarnett [08:16] dholbach: I've not blamed IS - FC doesn't either :) [08:16] * dholbach hugs you all [08:16] we blame sabdfl ;) [08:16] czajkowski: is james his boss? [08:16] :) [08:16] haha [08:16] I'll take the dog for a walk - see you in a bit :) [08:17] bkerensa: not sure why you miss your beans - but the forum ones will be there waiting for you [08:17] elfy: I thought they were leaving with the new design? hmm [08:18] nope [08:18] there was talk at one point [08:19] \o/ yay for coffee beans [08:23] :) === Guest98376 is now known as vibhav [12:01] http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13970_7-57571750-78/ubuntu-touch-beats-firefox-os-to-win-best-of-mwc-from-cnet/ whoooooo :-) === komputes_ is now known as komputes === kloeri_ is now known as kloeri === matt_symes is now known as andrew_46 === andrew_46 is now known as Guest38153 === Guest38153 is now known as matt_symes [13:47] czajkowski, \o/ [13:47] it's good right :) [14:21] pleia2: who is tanya? [14:21] mhall119: I know we're not autoscheduling, but like, how do I add the plenaries? [14:21] err, the keynotes I mean [14:32] jcastro: in the admin as always [14:36] http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1303/admin/ ? [14:36] sorry I have not done this in like 2 years [14:36] jcastro, "This page does not exist":P [14:37] jcastro, TIME ERROR [14:37] It says 2PM-8PM on the main page while in Launchpad it is 4PM-10PM [14:39] I know, I don't know where the admin panel is [14:39] oh, just /admin at the root [14:39] \p/ [14:39] LOL [14:39] pleia2: oh nm, I see the bug now, looks like Ben got it [14:40] jcastro, how does one create sessions? (Just asking) [14:40] smartboyhw: plenary sessions or regular sessions? [14:40] mhall119, both if you are willing to tell:P (More about regular) [14:41] smartboyhw: plenaries you have to talk to jcastro [14:41] regular sessions usually you create a blueprint for the appropriate track [14:41] and get it approved by the track lead [14:44] mhall119: ok so I'm clear, the form on the front of summit that used to be there, we're not using that? [14:46] I just need to know if I can use the easy form or if I use the django admin panel of usability awesomeness [14:47] mhall119, ah [14:57] jcastro: it isnt there because we havent started importing, I believe [14:57] jcastro: if we start importing, I *think* it will show up [14:57] though you will have to be given the perms for it [14:57] jcastro: just being asked by folks any idea the scheule will be up and finalsied folks are trying to arrange time off [14:58] ok [14:58] I'll wait a few hours I guess [14:58] the schedule is never finalised until its over... it always has the possibilty of changing to meet needs that come up [14:58] mhall119: thoughts on starting the import? [14:59] cjohnston: as long as IS has disabled the autoschedule/reschedule crons, I'm +1 [14:59] ok [14:59] cjohnston: well one would definately hope that's minimal this time considering it's virtual and people have a weeks notice to try and arrange these things [14:59] czajkowski: March 5-6, 2pm - 8pm UTC, should be the final dates and times [15:00] mhall119: yes dates/time I'd hope woudnt be moved :) [15:00] but content is what I'm looking for [15:00] mhall119, in the Launchpad it is 16:00 UTC.... [15:00] Which basically means 4PM [15:00] czajkowski: content doesn't exist yes [15:00] but yes, it should hopefully not change [15:00] mhall119: thank you! [15:00] czajkowski: summit won't be auto-scheduling or rescheduling this time, so any changes will be due to track leads manually changing it [15:01] mhall119: that's what I was trying to make sure and cjohnston said the scheduler would be on [15:01] I did not say that [15:03] thats how it read [15:03] scheduler is on and has the possibility of changing [15:04] it has the possibilty of changing.. never said anything about the scheduler. [15:06] jcastro: tanya works in the bluefinn she's the new PM for the web team [15:26] airurando1: boo [15:26] welcome :) [15:30] hi czajkowski === airurando1 is now known as airurando [15:48] mhall119, in the main uds.ubuntu.com it says 2PM-8PM, but in Launchpad page it says 4PM-10PM (all UTC). Which one is correct? [15:48] 2-8 [15:49] popey, YEAH [15:49] * smartboyhw can finally join in the fun [15:53] jono, can you confirm? ^ [15:56] 2-8 [15:56] smartboyhw: it's 2-8 [15:56] jcastro, can you fix the LP page^ [15:57] I'm in a call right now [15:57] anyone in drivers can fix it [15:57] jcastro: I don't have edit rights [15:57] and im in drivers [15:58] popey, yes [15:58] jo-erlend, I'm happy that it's now 2-8 [15:59] ok [15:59] so 1600-200? [15:59] 1400-2000 [16:00] done [16:00] ty [16:13] Man, I will have to miss this UDS. [16:13] (Exams) [16:38] jcastro: try summit again please [16:45] I will try to make a few sessions this UDS, but not enough time to take off from work to try to make the entire thing [16:48] vibhav: good luck on your exams [16:58] cprofitt: thanks :) [17:06] jono: can you please check the slot times and let me know if they are correct [17:06] http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1303/2013-03-05/ [17:07] mhall119, looks good [17:07] but on the Wed the first time slot is a session not a keynote [17:07] ok === elfy is now known as hobgoblin [17:08] thanks mhall119 [17:08] jono: fixed [17:13] mhall119, is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDS/Create up to date with how to create sessions using the new tracks? [17:15] jcastro, how is the plenary and lightning talks prep going? [17:17] jono: it's still got the old tracks, and linking to summit.u.c/uds-q [17:17] yeah [17:17] mhall119, can you look at fixing that [17:17] dpm, jcastro can you help mhall119 with this too? [17:18] jono: what does? [17:18] mhall119, eh? [17:18] sorry, for JoseeAntonioR [17:18] why ? [17:18] I'm just to lazy to type 3 letters before tab-completing [17:18] mhall119, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDS/Create doesn't seem to accurately reflect the online UDS [17:18] mhall119: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDS/Create [17:19] it should reflect the new tracks [17:19] jono, sure. mhall119, what do you need help with? [17:19] ok, I'll fix the tracks, the rest is just examples that should still be valid [17:20] mhall119, yeah it just needs a sanity check to ensure everything applies to the new UDS [17:22] ok [17:23] request for help: can someone who has access to the ubuntu twitter account post a Jam announcement? [17:27] this is the announcment, from Brazil: http://www.ubuntubrsc.com/ubuntu-global-jam-brazil-2013.html [17:41] mhall119, hey [17:41] so some outstanding questions: [17:42] 1. can people name their blueprints with whatever they like and use the Sprint setting to assign them to the UDS? this will allow people to maintain team names in the blueprint definitions for status.u.c [17:43] jono: if they don't follow the naming convention with regard to track, they won't be assigned to the right track when imported into Summit [17:44] mhall119, right, so they need to specify the track name [17:44] yes [17:44] mhall119, but then how are those BPs tracked in status.u.c? [17:44] the -1303- might be optional [17:44] mhall119, ok [17:44] jono: status.u.c uses a series milestone, not sprint, if I understood cjohnston correctly [17:45] so when the BP is assigned to a series milestone on the Ubuntu project, it will be imported to status.u.c for that milestones [17:45] mhall119, ok, we should have a page on /UDS that explains this - can you add this? [17:46] jono: I'll add it to my list [17:46] mhall119, also can you update https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDS/Create to specify the specific track names for naming blueprints (E.g. is it serverandcloud or cloudandserver) [17:47] jono: it should already be on there, but I'll double check and clarify if needed [17:48] mhall119, ahhh [17:48] just split client-1303-kernel-decision servercloud-1303-openstack-integration client-1303-wallpapers appdev-1303-python-transition into bullets [17:48] that makes it clearer [17:50] dholbach: hey, you didn't get to do the hangout, right? [17:50] JoseeAntonioR, no, I'm sorry - I'll get it rescheduled [17:50] no worries :) [17:51] jono: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDS/Create#Name better? [18:02] all right, I call it a day - got to do some shopping because some folks come over and expect food :-D [18:02] see you tomorrow! [18:08] mhall119, jono, sorry, I need to run, is there anything I can help regarding UDS and can I do it tomorrow morning? [18:08] dpm, nope, all good [18:08] thanks [18:09] ok, see you all tomorrow, then! [18:25] JoseeAntonioR, hey [18:26] so at 10am tomorrow I am going to use Ubuntu On Air to host the rick hangout [18:26] just a FYI [18:26] jono: we need something more prominent than a wiki page about how to name blueprints.. there are all sorts of naming conventions being used, but almost all of them are wrong. [18:27] cjohnston, suggestions? [18:27] what's that in proper time jono ? [18:28] I suggested sending out an email to all of the lists that the initial UDS email was sent to. [18:28] popey: 6pm UTc [18:28] I typed one up, but was then told to hold off. [18:29] popey, 6pm [18:29] Friday 27th Feb at 6pm UTC / 10am [18:29] Pacific / 1pm EST [18:29] balls [18:29] I'll miss that, Sam goes swimming [18:29] change it damn you! [18:29] he did folow up and say the 1st not the 27th :) [18:29] popey, will be recorded :-) [18:29] czajkowski, yeah :-) [18:29] ☺ [18:29] we are never good with dates and times [18:29] lol [18:29] you all see http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13970_7-57571750-78/ubuntu-touch-beats-firefox-os-to-win-best-of-mwc-from-cnet/ ? [18:29] awesome :-) [18:30] jono: for example, the blueprint that is being used for the RR thread is named wrong... so it should be changed, but doing so will make all the links to it not valid [18:32] cjohnston, right [18:32] unfortunately not much we can do about that [18:32] I guess the BP could be superceded [18:32] the firefox leader didn't seem to be very cheerful in the MWC discussion with Mark. borderline annoyed actually. [18:33] It could be renamed and just reply to the list with the updated link [18:33] rrnwexec: i agree [18:34] lots of personality on that stage [18:34] I found her very annoying, she'd interrupt and then decided she'd wanted to say something [18:35] she seemed very unfriendly [18:35] none of them are professional public speakers, all in front of a barrage of potential engineers, customers and partners. I wouldn't fancy that job either. They did pretty well. [18:40] ubuntuforums.org update complete :D :D [18:41] popey: well, you could say all speak as part of their jobs so are professional at this stage, the other two just came across friendlier I guess [18:43] * popey shrugs [18:57] This is rather depressing but also rather true. http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_IP-13-165_en.htm [19:02] jcastro: you going to http://www.oscon.com/oscon2013/public/content/exhibitors ? [19:03] (or do you know who is) [19:12] czajkowski: this is a good post: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/joan-williams/women-dont-negotiate_b_2593106.html [19:13] (though if you read it I may need to start sending jack+coke by the case) [19:14] I'm off coke atm :( [19:15] and so need one for my JD, drinking it neat could be trouble :) [19:15] so, straight jack then? :) [19:15] hehe [19:16] wuss! :D [19:16] You women and your equality.. Drink damnit! [19:16] or is that not the right approach? [19:16] only one way to find out [19:16] hah [19:17] Thanks for doing the interview with us yesterday pleia2, it went really well! [19:17] sure :) I had fun [19:17] ohh [19:17] when does it get aired ? [19:17] the 7th [19:18] sweet :D [19:18] talking about xubuntu [19:18] (thankfully, I am about through with "I want to talk about women in tech") [19:18] I have an awesome job, ask me about that :) [19:18] w00t [19:23] Did the negotiations go the way you expected ? [19:23] :) [19:55] whoa! [19:55] the forums came back way earlier than I thought [20:02] mhall119, hey [20:02] mhall119, so /UDS is complete? [20:05] ok back mhall119 [20:05] jono: just read the rick hangout thing, can you give me some details to add it to the cal? [20:05] is it a Q&A, or what? [20:06] mhall119: woo, I see the Create a meeting now, AWESOME. [20:06] jono: bah, it scrolled outta my buffer, the three keynotes are ... "Introduction" Jono, "Keynote" Mark, and intro of tech leads? I know the times, just the titles [20:08] JoseeAntonioR, it is to discuss the Rolling Release Proposal [20:09] JoseeAntonioR, it will be a presentation followed by Q+A [20:09] jcastro, this is it: [20:09] * 2pm - 2.10pm - Jono Bacon, Introduction [20:09] jcastro, actually [20:09] this: [20:09] * 2pm - 2.15pm - Jono Bacon, Introduction [20:09] right, 15, 30, 15 is what you told me last time [20:10] * 2.15pm - 2.40pm - Rick Spencer, Keynote [20:10] 2.40pm - 3pm - Track Lead Introductions [20:11] I made up some descriptions, but we can tweak those after they get on the schedule [20:12] "Do whatever you please, but wait until next version, I have already submitted a wallpaper for this version's contest!" [20:12] hah [20:15] jono: /UDS still needs content onthe G+ Hangout page, but that's for participation, it shouldn't block people getting stuff on the schedule [20:15] mhall119, cool, I sent out the scheduling details [20:16] http://mhall119.com/2013/02/will-you-have-ubuntu-touch-at-your-jam/ [20:16] rrnwexec: ^^ [20:19] jono: added to the calendar, and updated the page [20:21] thanks JoseeAntonioR [20:29] jono: this is a response to your Q&A video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jozg-HXCNpU&feature=em-video_response_received [20:42] woo, our first plenary is filed! [20:42] 3 more slots to go! [21:09] jcastro, did you schedule the keynotes? [21:11] they're in the system [21:11] mhall119: how do I make them fit in the first slot? [21:17] mhall119: Awesome post. thank you!! [21:30] jcastro: you going to oscon? [21:31] friend of mine works for rackspace and is asking who we're sending [21:32] jcastro: what do you mean? [21:32] popey: yeah, assuming my talk gets accepted [21:33] jcastro: as long as they are a plenary type, you can add them to the plenary slot [21:33] mhall119: so I submitted the keynotes as type plenary [21:34] oh dude, the edit button thing [21:34] popey: ideally it'll be full force, with mark keynote etc. [21:34] but give him my contact info [21:34] * cjohnston notes that jcastro needs to not be so detached from Summit [21:34] ;-) [21:35] ok [21:35] well stop improving things! [21:35] oh, found a bug too cjohnston [21:35] what [21:35] when you go to schedule [21:35] the sidebar thing you know [21:36] that view seems busted in chrome/ff here, screenshotting now [21:36] http://imgur.com/8nJR0xJ [21:36] I get that in both FF and chrome [21:37] blame mhall119 [21:37] he hasn't created rooms [21:37] its not a bug [21:37] it just doesnt have data [21:37] ok [21:37] mhall119: create "rooms" please! [21:37] cjohnston: also, if no data exists, don't break the layout! [21:37] jcastro: mhall119, we need a plenary room, and then whatever 2x rooms per track [21:38] jcastro: we shouldn't be scheduling before rooms exist, therefor the view doesn't really exist [21:38] but you begged me to let you create meetings, so now you can create meetings, but mhall119 hasn't created rooms so layout broken [21:38] you floridians never make sense to me [21:39] * cjohnston files a bug against jcastro [21:39] lol [21:39] could rooms be reused from last event since they're labels only? (just a dumb suggestion) [21:39] rrnwexec: they are going to be track related [21:39] "Client" and so on I assume? [21:39] either way, we would still have to recreate the rooms, they are tied to a single summit [21:40] jcastro: I believe its going be something like "Plenary" "Client 1" "Client 2" "S&C 1" "S&C2" [21:40] well, my sessions are in there, so like, I'm 90% there, as long as my data is safe [21:40] and then for the irc channel it needs to be #ubuntu-uds-client1 #ubuntu-uds-client2, etc [21:40] jcastro: its safew [21:40] safe [21:41] EOD. G'nite all. [21:41] EOD too, finishing up on mail and then off to the rink! TT y'all later. [21:41] \o/ ROLLING [21:43] jcastro: jcastro: rooms have been created [21:45] \o/ [21:45] hey, so like I need to modify the meetings, I forgot to mark 2 as plenary [21:45] would messing with them in /admin be bad? [21:47] jcastro: that's the only way [21:47] I made rick's a plenary and scheduled it [21:47] ok, so I won't break anything [21:47] jcastro: let me know if you need the plenary slots broken into smaller chunks of time [21:47] ok so there are 2 more [21:47] we need this: [21:47] 14-14:15 [21:48] 14:15-14:45 [21:48] 14:45-15:00 [21:48] I made the other two, I just need the slot [21:48] ok, give me a minute [21:48] I need the "afternoon" plenaries to be 15 minutes, but that can wait until tomorrow [21:49] and for Wed its just 1 block for "Lightning talks" anyway [21:50] jcastro: done [21:50] for the morning one [21:53] jcastro: should be all set