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apw | when things are broken, they are very broken | 09:36 |
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smb | apw, They can get more broken easily | 09:43 |
smb | but not the other way round | 09:43 |
cking | breakage is like entropy, always increasing and always unavoidable | 09:43 |
apw | heh yeah, i have much internal network outage | 09:43 |
apw | dhcp server and radv servers both went on the friz | 09:43 |
apw | and now my tunelling has gone wonkey | 09:44 |
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ppisati | brb | 12:53 |
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ppisati | http://www.androidcentral.com/google-working-experimental-38-linux-kernel-android | 13:15 |
* ppisati wonders if they'll try to use nvidia's opensource tegra driver | 13:16 | |
apw | ppisati, interesting | 13:17 |
ppisati | apw: /me wonders if we can use it for our phablet/nexus7 img | 13:20 |
apw | ppisati, indeed. why don't you find out :) | 13:20 |
ogra_ | theiur opensource driver is for X, isnt it ? | 13:20 |
ogra_ | wont help on phablet | 13:20 |
ppisati | ogra_: no idea | 13:21 |
ppisati | apw: don't think it's ready yet, but i can give it a look | 13:21 |
ogra_ | and i dont think it has full 3D support in X so wont be of much use on n7 desktop either | 13:21 |
ogra_ | phablet uses libEGL directly, thats the part they will never make free | 13:22 |
rtg | apw, 'binary-arch-deps-$(do_libc_dev_package) += binary-arch-headers' is why headers are not getting packaged in the LTS backport build for Raring. | 13:26 |
apw | rtg ? | 13:26 |
ppisati | ogra_: "x11, drm, fbdev, and gdi" which backend do we use with libegl? | 13:26 |
apw | rtg, how does that work in any version if that is true | 13:27 |
rtg | apw, bug #1134441 | 13:27 |
ubot2` | Launchpad bug 1134441 in linux-lts-raring (Ubuntu Precise) "kernel headers are missing from 3.8" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1134441 | 13:27 |
rtg | apw, becasue we set that flag false for the LTS backport build | 13:27 |
apw | rtg, obviously we don't want libc making back there though | 13:27 |
apw | rtg, and how does it work in the quantal lts backport | 13:27 |
rtg | apw, dunno, was just gonna go have a look | 13:27 |
apw | rtg that change is nothing new | 13:27 |
apw | rtg, and remember binary-arch-headers is in more than one place, depending on settings | 13:28 |
apw | rtg, and binary-arch-headers is _not_ the headers for the kernel, that is only libc-dev | 13:29 |
rtg | apw, well, hmm. | 13:29 |
rtg | apw, what builds linux-headers*all.deb ? | 13:30 |
apw | rtg, install | 13:31 |
rtg | install-headers | 13:31 |
apw | rtg, ie binary-arch | 13:31 |
apw | rtg, so binary-arch-headers is only about libc-dev, binary/install et al all make the headers | 13:31 |
apw | binary-headers is a convienience for you as a human and not used internally iirc | 13:32 |
ogra_ | ppisati, gralloc | 13:32 |
apw | rtg, search for " # The flavour specific headers image | 13:32 |
apw | rtg, this is on the raring backport branch right ? | 13:34 |
rtg | apw, yep | 13:34 |
* apw pokes | 13:34 | |
apw | rtg, any idea when we might see 3.8.1, cause this had is pissing me right off | 13:42 |
apw | heap | 13:42 |
rtg | apw, today according to his announcement | 13:42 |
apw | as soon as you have it i want want want want *stamp foot* *cry* | 13:43 |
* apw is getting grumpy a losing his environment every other hour | 13:45 | |
apw | and this is too hard to reporoduce to be able to bisect it reliablly | 13:45 |
apw | and not far enough apart to not be annoying | 13:45 |
apw | rtg, not that there is any hope that it will be fixed by that, there is none of the flip fixes in there, bugger | 13:47 |
apw | rtg, got it, its that -SRCPKG thing agian | 14:05 |
rtg | yeah, I was just getting to that conclusion | 14:05 |
apw | dh_installchangelogs -plinux-lts-raring-headers-3.8.0-7 | 14:05 |
rtg | must be in a control file | 14:05 |
* apw will sort it out | 14:06 | |
rtg | apw, k, I'll go back to the N7 kernel | 14:06 |
rtg | apw debian.master/control.stub.in:Package: SRCPKGNAME-headers-PKGVER-ABINUM | 14:07 |
apw | rtg, we're not using those in theory | 14:08 |
apw | rtg, as we are on the branch | 14:08 |
apw | and control is right actually as we make the right package name in the output | 14:08 |
apw | but we don't put the shit in the right place, so it is empty | 14:08 |
apw | rtg, this is all because we don't let the indep package change name, which we should really do | 14:11 |
apw | these lts-backports packages are a bit of a mess ... arg | 14:11 |
rtg | the indep packages are unique because of the ABI number, right ? | 14:12 |
apw | they are for lts-backports _only_ because they don't overlap | 14:12 |
apw | for example in ppc they are not | 14:13 |
apw | or indeed in the linux-lowlatency | 14:13 |
apw | so we have to be very careful in changing the indep parts | 14:13 |
apw | _or_ more likely we should be letting the indep package in the lts-backports be different | 14:13 |
rtg | so you're thinking it _should_ be linux-lts-raring-headers | 14:13 |
apw | perhaps, we can discuss that at 'sprint', the important thing is for now we need to fix that | 14:14 |
apw | but only on the lts-backport branch | 14:14 |
apw | not in the master, as that is carried over to ppc and lowlatency | 14:14 |
* apw confirms this is the issue | 14:14 | |
rtg | apw, well, if we are going to change the name we need to do it before sprint | 14:14 |
apw | rtg, will figure out the deps for ppc and lowlatency and propose somethign on kernel-team@ | 14:20 |
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rtg | ack | 14:20 |
apw | we need the change i am having to revert there, so for now i'll do it on the branch | 14:20 |
rtg | apw, policy on CONFIG_PATA_ACPI in raring is that it has to be 'y' or 'm', right ? | 14:50 |
apw | yeah | 14:50 |
rtg | I think it should _never_ be 'y' | 14:50 |
rtg | as it will match any storage PCI ID | 14:51 |
apw | rtg is it causing an issue? | 14:58 |
rtg | apw, bug #1084783 | 14:58 |
ubot2` | Launchpad bug 1084783 in linux (Ubuntu Raring) "[Regression] SATA reset failing since Linux 3.6" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1084783 | 14:58 |
apw | rtg, if the description in that bug is right then indeed it should not be y, it being y is interesting it must have been switch that way for a reason, no idea why tho. | 15:00 |
rtg | apw, I couldn't find one either. just thought you might know. | 15:00 |
rtg | I'm gonna make the policy 'm' | 15:01 |
apw | nope i dont recall, perhaps uni-cum ? | 15:01 |
rtg | wtf is uni-cum ? | 15:02 |
apw | what we were drinking in bundapesht | 15:02 |
rtg | ah :) | 15:02 |
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apw | rtg, though from its position in the annotation list i would say we did it when we were picking the most common disk device drivers, soh | 15:03 |
rtg | likely just a foobar decision then | 15:03 |
apw | rtg, what was teh headers thing bug # | 15:17 |
rtg | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1084783 | 15:18 |
ubot2` | Launchpad bug 1084783 in linux "[Regression] SATA reset failing since Linux 3.6" [High,Fix committed] | 15:18 |
apw | ta | 15:18 |
rtg | apw, nm | 15:18 |
apw | oh thats the other one | 15:18 |
rtg | apw, yeah, looking. hang on | 15:18 |
rtg | apw, bug #1134441 | 15:19 |
ubot2` | Launchpad bug 1134441 in linux-lts-raring (Ubuntu Precise) "kernel headers are missing from 3.8" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1134441 | 15:19 |
* ppisati kicks a new arm build and evaporates for a bit | 15:30 | |
* ogasawara back in 20 | 15:30 | |
rtg | apw, working on v3.8.1. should have it in a bit | 15:40 |
apw | great | 15:40 |
rtg | apw, I was within 30 seconds of uploading for that PATA_ACPI boto fix when I noticed your build daemon email | 15:42 |
rtg | boot* | 15:42 |
apw | rtg ? boto daemon? | 15:42 |
rtg | boot fix | 15:43 |
* apw cannot recall this boot fix | 15:43 | |
rtg | apw, bug #1084783 is a boot failure | 15:44 |
ubot2` | Launchpad bug 1084783 in linux (Ubuntu Raring) "[Regression] SATA reset failing since Linux 3.6" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1084783 | 15:44 |
apw | rtg i don't recall sending any email about that one, you sure it was me | 15:45 |
rtg | apw, 'Mainline Build v3.8.1' | 15:45 |
rtg | that one ^ | 15:46 |
rtg | isn't that your build bot somewhere ? | 15:46 |
apw | yeah it is a build bot jobby | 15:46 |
apw | now i get you, yo mean you uploaded just before seeing there was a .1 you could rebase to at the saem time | 15:46 |
rtg | I *almost* uploaded. caught it just in time. now I have to go remove the tag etc | 15:47 |
apw | heh | 15:47 |
* ppisati disappears again | 16:13 | |
Windows | Hello is this the English Channel? | 16:42 |
rtg | apw, zinc.canonical.com:~rtg/linux-image-3.8.0-9* | 16:44 |
apw | Windows, it is an ubuntu kernel discussion channel, wherein people know english | 16:44 |
Windows | apw: German? | 16:45 |
Windows | apw: Where can I find a german channel? | 16:45 |
apw | not me | 16:45 |
apw | #ubuntu-de ? | 16:45 |
Windows | apw: I have got a question about the kernel! | 16:46 |
* rtg bounces | 16:46 | |
BenC | infinity: ppc kernel about to be uploaded | 16:57 |
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apw | Windows, then as per the topic, ask it and see what happens | 16:59 |
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rtg | apw, did you have a patch for the raring LTS headers issue yet ? | 17:04 |
rtg | apw, never mind. I fixed it. | 17:19 |
BenC | rtg: when are you guys going to switch to using an upstream tar ball with 3.8? | 17:35 |
rtg | BenC, usually just before handoff prior to release. guess thats coming right up. | 17:36 |
BenC | Ok | 17:37 |
rtg | BenC, I'll try to remember it for the next upload. | 17:37 |
infinity | BenC: Ah, wasn't around. Oh well, you get adare. | 17:58 |
* rtg -> lunch | 18:26 | |
apw | rtg, you changed that indep thing on master-next in raring, that is the wrong place, that will break ppc et al | 18:39 |
rtg | apw, you're sure ? | 19:03 |
rtg | apw, ok, dropped that patch for now | 19:06 |
apw | rtg, yeah they both have full header sets, including their own independant common header, to allow them to migrate britney independantly | 19:11 |
rtg | apw, ok, I've just left it in the LTS branch | 19:11 |
unkle_george | This is more of a glibc/alloc thing, but maybe someonehere can explain it to me: "deallocated space is not placed | 19:17 |
unkle_george | on the free list for reuse by later allocations" http://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man3/mallopt.3.html | 19:17 |
unkle_george | So any allocations over 128k are not reusable by my app even after free? | 19:18 |
unkle_george | while(1) {delete [](new char[128*1024]);} will eventually exhuast memory space? | 19:19 |
rtg | henrix, I think 'Re: [PATCH 018/139] tty: Prevent deadlock in n_gsm driver' on the kteam list is directed at you. | 20:07 |
rtg | apw, pushed N7 again with some config updates. seems to work OK on the desktop. | 20:30 |
henrix | rtg: checking | 20:31 |
henrix | rtg: interesting, looks like we're not building that driver in with our config. | 20:33 |
henrix | rtg: i need to take a closer look at that | 20:34 |
rtg | henrix, you should likely be building vanilla stable with allyesconfig | 20:34 |
henrix | rtg: i was testing with the same config we use for the mainline builds | 20:35 |
rtg | henrix, which I beleive is derived from Ubuntu | 20:35 |
henrix | rtg: most likely. i'll start doing that. thanks | 20:35 |
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* rtg -> EOD | 20:59 | |
ppisati | do any of you know how i can debug a dkms pkg? IOW it doesn't want to apply one of the patch that are "there" | 21:23 |
ppisati | if i explode .deb, go inside and manually apply the patch, it works ok | 21:23 |
ppisati | but during the installation, that patch is not applied | 21:24 |
ppisati | (but it's there, it's corrent and it's in the right place) | 21:24 |
ppisati | grrr... | 21:24 |
* ppisati has found the problem... :P | 21:44 | |
JanC | ppisati: so, what was it? | 21:55 |
ppisati | JanC: spoke too early... | 21:59 |
ppisati | JanC: mispelled patch in dkms.conf.in | 22:08 |
ppisati | but now i've another problem... uhm... | 22:08 |
JanC | sounds... interesting ☺ | 22:11 |
JanC | about debugging: I suppose you already checked if the build log has some useful info? | 22:16 |
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Redoubt | 1swutrif;QWE | 22:56 |
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