[10:48]  * ogra hugs nusakan and the livefs builders and hopes we never need to switch to jenkins ...
[10:49] <ogra> i just spent a damned hour trying to find a detailed build log for a failed phablet build ... seems jenkins has no concept of showing you actual info thats not mangeld
[10:54] <Daviey> ogra: I think it does.. it's a build artifact.. If not, i would suspect the job hasn't been created properly to collect logs.
[10:55] <xnox> usually downloadable as a zip file.
[10:56] <ogra> the only build artefact log i can find is a very top level one
[10:56] <ogra> and seriously, that UI is completely unusable
[10:56] <ogra> finding a build log on nusakan takes me less than a minute .... 2min through http (since its a few extra clicks)
[10:58] <ogra> (and i dont eant to download and unpack a zip file, i just want to see the last few lines of the live-build log telling me whats broekn)
[10:58] <ogra> *want
[11:03] <ogra> they should sell it to to valve... surely makes a good adventure game
[11:05]  * ogra types "go north" into the search box
[11:06] <ogra> ..." you have been eaten by a grue" ...
[11:06] <ogra> gah
[17:28] <Riddell> so is raring really cancelled?
[17:31] <TheLordOfTime> wait what?
[17:32] <GridCube> lol no
[17:32] <ogra_> Riddell, seems rather that raring is 14.04
[17:32] <ogra_> Riddell, btw, how did your nx7 tests turn out, did you get to it already ?
[17:33] <Riddell> ogra_: sorry it gave some error about something missing and dropped to a busybox shell
[17:33] <Riddell> ogra_: I was going to test the ubuntu image to compare then report back but got distracted
[17:33] <ogra_> ok
[17:33] <Riddell> should still get to it today
[17:33] <ogra_> i'm around if you need me
[18:22] <jbicha> nah, it's Rolling Raring and Stable Salamander (but of course the decision isn't quite final yet either)
[18:23] <jbicha> I think it depends on whether an Occupy Millbank movement spring up in the next week or something
[18:23] <Laney> Bluefin*
[18:25] <slangasek> heh
[21:03] <xnox> jbicha: feel free to Occupy Millbank =) we are on the other side of the river now ;-)
[21:04] <xnox> to be honest my mate asked if he should install quantal and I replied well precise and raring are far better at the moment.
[21:04] <xnox> he went with raring.
[21:06] <Laney> now he gets more than he bargained for ;-)
[21:07] <jbicha> yeah, precise is great and raring is great too if you have a friend who's an Ubuntu developer ;)
[21:36] <xnox> jbicha: and if that friend has all technical leads on a quick ping away ;-))))))
[21:38] <Laney> well, every ubuntu developer has that