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rick_h_androidwoot00:29
brouschwaat?00:38
rick_h_androidgot irc on the nexus 1000:40
rick_h_androidso party00:40
brouschYou got a nexus10?00:45
brouschYou braved Walmart?00:45
rick_h_yea, braved walmark00:47
rick_h_survived, just barely00:47
brouschI need to go buy a dang shovel tonight00:52
brouschPlow left a wall of crap in my driveway again00:52
rick_h_androidyea and shovel out jcastro00:53
brouschAnyone we know get blown up? http://www.woodtv.com/dpp/news/local/se_mich/royal-oak-house-explosion-02271300:56
rick_h_androidlmorchard says it's by him.01:04
snap-lIT's across from the coffee shop01:13
rick_h_androidorly?01:25
jrwrenput ubuntu tablet on it?01:27
Blazeixmathomastech: hi01:28
rick_h_mathomastech: party01:28
Blazeix:'(01:28
snap-lHellllllllllo01:53
marc2Yo01:53
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rick_h_be aware! ... mathomastech01:53
snap-lhttp://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration01:54
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snap-lHey, I'd like to know a little bit about the history of the universe. Can anyone give me an example or two?02:14
rick_h_snapl...02:14
rick_h_and that concludes the history of the universe02:14
Blazeixlesson one:02:14
rick_h_hope that helps, thanks for coming to the channel02:15
* Blazeix slaps snap-l02:15
Blazeixthe univerise is cruel02:15
mathomastechBlazeix: foo02:17
snap-lmathomastech: Bar02:17
snap-lbar02:17
rick_h_mathomastech: http://uploads.mitechie.com/awesome.png02:34
brousch"Rick Harding is a dangerous man. Sure, he may look like a harmless developer ..."03:22
brouschI'm gonna have to disagree with you there. He has a large, bald head and a goatee. He looks like an evil mastermind03:22
brouschAnd with that, I bid you good night03:24
snap-lhehehehehehe04:19
rick_h_brousch: lol12:08
rick_h_morning12:09
brouschayup12:31
snap-lMorning again. :)13:28
brouschayup13:34
mathomastechSure is. Hi-ho hi-ho. Off to work we go.13:35
snap-lYay, new Virtualbox and a new extension download13:50
snap-lAnd I think  they fucked something up13:51
rick_h_doh13:51
snap-lgiving it my password, and it's complaining it can't use it13:52
snap-lAt least it'll still run with the old one, so that's a plus13:53
rick_h_snap-l: speaking of B&N http://r.bmark.us/u/9466d3ab2146b4 and that includes the holiday season14:15
snap-lrick_h_: I knew I didn't want to click on that link14:18
snap-lThey need to concentrate on their digital sales, and getting more inventory in stores14:19
snap-lThis whole "order and we'll ship to the store" is OK for some folks, but it misses the mark14:20
jrwren_there is nothing "yay" about a new oracle product.14:20
rick_h_ok, linkedin has jumped..."Richard, see the best advice Martha Stewart ever got"14:22
rick_h_w...t...f14:22
snap-lUnless she's asking you personally to tell her to get fucked, I'm not sure what the best advice she could give would be?14:26
snap-lAnd yes, LinkedIn can also get stuffed14:28
jrwren_linkedin has sucks for much longer than just today forwrard.14:31
snap-ljrwren_: I deleted my account14:31
jrwren_can you do that?14:31
snap-lYeah, they have a process14:32
jrwren_kinda like FB, I keep mine just so I can message certain people.14:32
snap-lwhether it actually deletes it is another thing14:32
snap-lY'know, if I can't figure out how to get a hold of you without using some service, then perhaps we need to rethink our relationship14:32
snap-lI hung onto AIM for way too long because there were three people that I barely talked to on there14:33
slestakanyone done any research on salt or ansible?  Been looking at both.14:33
snap-lfinally I messaged every one of them prior to deleting my account14:34
snap-lsalt can harden your arteries, so I've been told. ;)14:34
slestakbut it adds flavor to life...14:34
rick_h_slestak: know some people using salt, not looked at ansible14:34
snap-lcontext?14:35
rick_h_puppet alternatives14:35
snap-lah14:35
rick_h_or puppet-like alternatives14:35
slestaki am lookign for sth for deploying a small set of apps in a few configurations to various customers.  salt looks like it woul dbe great for managing many internal servers14:35
rick_h_http://docs.saltstack.org/en/latest/topics/index.html14:35
jrwren_i knew salt sounded familiar14:35
snap-lSo we're looking for ways to make things completely ungoogleable14:35
jrwren_for app deployment? why not fabric?14:35
slestaknot sure about my use case14:36
slestakfabric is in my list14:36
snap-lslestak: Do you want the ability to deploy or update?14:36
snap-lor both?14:36
slestakjust deploy14:36
jrwren_i've always viewed puppet as more of a system level cmdb, like that old confdb in perl, wtf was it called14:36
snap-lso once this code is deployed, you'll rebuild the machine to redeploy? :)14:37
slestaki have seen descriptions of salt as (chef || puppet) + fabric + python14:37
jrwren_slestak: interesting!14:37
slestakthe developer is very active on g+ with weekly hangouts.  lots of good info out there14:38
snap-lhttp://saltstack.com/products.html <- I hate this.14:38
slestakupdates will be managed onsite with existong methods14:38
slestakwe are just trying to straighten up initial deployment14:38
snap-lThis gives me bulletpoint, but doesn't tell me how to use it14:39
jrwren_snap-l: but there are 4 columns! ITS ENTERPRISEY!14:39
brouschsnap-l: http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/getting-started-salt-stack-other-configuration-management-system-built-python14:40
slestaki saw that.14:41
slestaki know either salt or ansible will be my recommendation.  ansible has the benefit that it can use 0mq or ssh as a transport14:41
slestakboth are python14:42
jrwren_cfengine is what I was trying to think of.14:56
jrwren_salt sounds like a good choice. that said, I've found fabric to be simple and awesome.14:56
snap-lbrousch: Yeah, that would a great thing... FOR THE SITE. :)14:57
slestaki think im going to recommend ansible14:58
slestakless dependencies14:58
slestakhas ssh transport14:58
slestaktalked to the ansible and salt people.  i think ansible is def the choice.  the fellow that wrote ansible is the same guy behind func and has worked on puppet16:17
rick_h_<3 https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2013-February/036537.html18:26
rick_h_I can have Debian Ubuntu please!18:26
snap-lhttp://decafbad.net/2013/02/27/mechanical-keyboards-or-youre-typing-it-wrong <- Keyboard discussion in comments18:37
greg-gOH YIPPEE! KEYBOARD DISCUSSION IN COMMENTS!18:39
snap-lgreg-g: Heh18:39
* greg-g actually cares about keyboards, just, you know, sounds funny ;)18:39
greg-gwhich is why I hate this new dell xps, the keyboard is basically a macbook air one :( :( :( :(18:40
snap-lI actually liked the Macbook Air keyboard18:40
snap-land the Aluminum18:40
snap-lIt made no illusions of being a deep keyboard18:40
brouschI was surprised how usable the Transformer Infinity keyboard is18:41
jjessewhats wrong w/ the macbook ari keyboard?18:41
jjessei love the keyboard on mine18:41
jjessei'm just the idiot that can't spell18:42
snap-lUgh, the Air has the same scissor-spring shit that the Logitech ones did18:42
jjesseits better than the Dell desktop the customer has me working on18:43
snap-lyea, Dell really cheaped out18:43
snap-lTheir business laptops were OK18:43
snap-lbut over time they kept getting cheaper and cheaper and ...18:43
snap-l"Who wants to race to the bottom?!?"18:44
greg-gwell: A) bad layout and B) just feels loose18:44

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