[00:29] <rick_h_android> woot
[00:38] <brousch> waat?
[00:40] <rick_h_android> got irc on the nexus 10
[00:40] <rick_h_android> so party
[00:45] <brousch> You got a nexus10?
[00:45] <brousch> You braved Walmart?
[00:47] <rick_h_> yea, braved walmark
[00:47] <rick_h_> survived, just barely
[00:52] <brousch> I need to go buy a dang shovel tonight
[00:52] <brousch> Plow left a wall of crap in my driveway again
[00:53] <rick_h_android> yea and shovel out jcastro
[00:56] <brousch> Anyone we know get blown up? http://www.woodtv.com/dpp/news/local/se_mich/royal-oak-house-explosion-022713
[01:04] <rick_h_android> lmorchard says it's by him.
[01:13] <snap-l> IT's across from the coffee shop
[01:25] <rick_h_android> orly?
[01:27] <jrwren> put ubuntu tablet on it?
[01:28] <Blazeix> mathomastech: hi
[01:28] <rick_h_> mathomastech: party
[01:28] <Blazeix> :'(
[01:53] <snap-l> Hellllllllllo
[01:53] <marc2> Yo
[01:53] <rick_h_> be aware! ... mathomastech
[01:54] <snap-l> http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[02:14] <snap-l> Hey, I'd like to know a little bit about the history of the universe. Can anyone give me an example or two?
[02:14] <rick_h_> snapl...
[02:14] <rick_h_> and that concludes the history of the universe
[02:14] <Blazeix> lesson one:
[02:15] <rick_h_> hope that helps, thanks for coming to the channel
[02:15]  * Blazeix slaps snap-l
[02:15] <Blazeix> the univerise is cruel
[02:17] <mathomastech> Blazeix: foo
[02:17] <snap-l> mathomastech: Bar
[02:17] <snap-l> bar
[02:34] <rick_h_> mathomastech: http://uploads.mitechie.com/awesome.png
[03:22] <brousch> "Rick Harding is a dangerous man. Sure, he may look like a harmless developer ..."
[03:22] <brousch> I'm gonna have to disagree with you there. He has a large, bald head and a goatee. He looks like an evil mastermind
[03:24] <brousch> And with that, I bid you good night
[04:19] <snap-l> hehehehehehe
[12:08] <rick_h_> brousch: lol
[12:09] <rick_h_> morning
[12:31] <brousch> ayup
[13:28] <snap-l> Morning again. :)
[13:34] <brousch> ayup
[13:35] <mathomastech> Sure is. Hi-ho hi-ho. Off to work we go.
[13:50] <snap-l> Yay, new Virtualbox and a new extension download
[13:51] <snap-l> And I think  they fucked something up
[13:51] <rick_h_> doh
[13:52] <snap-l> giving it my password, and it's complaining it can't use it
[13:53] <snap-l> At least it'll still run with the old one, so that's a plus
[14:15] <rick_h_> snap-l: speaking of B&N http://r.bmark.us/u/9466d3ab2146b4 and that includes the holiday season
[14:18] <snap-l> rick_h_: I knew I didn't want to click on that link
[14:19] <snap-l> They need to concentrate on their digital sales, and getting more inventory in stores
[14:20] <snap-l> This whole "order and we'll ship to the store" is OK for some folks, but it misses the mark
[14:20] <jrwren_> there is nothing "yay" about a new oracle product.
[14:22] <rick_h_> ok, linkedin has jumped..."Richard, see the best advice Martha Stewart ever got"
[14:22] <rick_h_> w...t...f
[14:26] <snap-l> Unless she's asking you personally to tell her to get fucked, I'm not sure what the best advice she could give would be?
[14:28] <snap-l> And yes, LinkedIn can also get stuffed
[14:31] <jrwren_> linkedin has sucks for much longer than just today forwrard.
[14:31] <snap-l> jrwren_: I deleted my account
[14:31] <jrwren_> can you do that?
[14:32] <snap-l> Yeah, they have a process
[14:32] <jrwren_> kinda like FB, I keep mine just so I can message certain people.
[14:32] <snap-l> whether it actually deletes it is another thing
[14:32] <snap-l> Y'know, if I can't figure out how to get a hold of you without using some service, then perhaps we need to rethink our relationship
[14:33] <snap-l> I hung onto AIM for way too long because there were three people that I barely talked to on there
[14:33] <slestak> anyone done any research on salt or ansible?  Been looking at both.
[14:34] <snap-l> finally I messaged every one of them prior to deleting my account
[14:34] <snap-l> salt can harden your arteries, so I've been told. ;)
[14:34] <slestak> but it adds flavor to life...
[14:34] <rick_h_> slestak: know some people using salt, not looked at ansible
[14:35] <snap-l> context?
[14:35] <rick_h_> puppet alternatives
[14:35] <snap-l> ah
[14:35] <rick_h_> or puppet-like alternatives
[14:35] <slestak> i am lookign for sth for deploying a small set of apps in a few configurations to various customers.  salt looks like it woul dbe great for managing many internal servers
[14:35] <rick_h_> http://docs.saltstack.org/en/latest/topics/index.html
[14:35] <jrwren_> i knew salt sounded familiar
[14:35] <snap-l> So we're looking for ways to make things completely ungoogleable
[14:35] <jrwren_> for app deployment? why not fabric?
[14:36] <slestak> not sure about my use case
[14:36] <slestak> fabric is in my list
[14:36] <snap-l> slestak: Do you want the ability to deploy or update?
[14:36] <snap-l> or both?
[14:36] <slestak> just deploy
[14:36] <jrwren_> i've always viewed puppet as more of a system level cmdb, like that old confdb in perl, wtf was it called
[14:37] <snap-l> so once this code is deployed, you'll rebuild the machine to redeploy? :)
[14:37] <slestak> i have seen descriptions of salt as (chef || puppet) + fabric + python
[14:37] <jrwren_> slestak: interesting!
[14:38] <slestak> the developer is very active on g+ with weekly hangouts.  lots of good info out there
[14:38] <snap-l> http://saltstack.com/products.html <- I hate this.
[14:38] <slestak> updates will be managed onsite with existong methods
[14:38] <slestak> we are just trying to straighten up initial deployment
[14:39] <snap-l> This gives me bulletpoint, but doesn't tell me how to use it
[14:39] <jrwren_> snap-l: but there are 4 columns! ITS ENTERPRISEY!
[14:40] <brousch> snap-l: http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/getting-started-salt-stack-other-configuration-management-system-built-python
[14:41] <slestak> i saw that.
[14:41] <slestak> i know either salt or ansible will be my recommendation.  ansible has the benefit that it can use 0mq or ssh as a transport
[14:42] <slestak> both are python
[14:56] <jrwren_> cfengine is what I was trying to think of.
[14:56] <jrwren_> salt sounds like a good choice. that said, I've found fabric to be simple and awesome.
[14:57] <snap-l> brousch: Yeah, that would a great thing... FOR THE SITE. :)
[14:58] <slestak> i think im going to recommend ansible
[14:58] <slestak> less dependencies
[14:58] <slestak> has ssh transport
[16:17] <slestak> talked to the ansible and salt people.  i think ansible is def the choice.  the fellow that wrote ansible is the same guy behind func and has worked on puppet
[18:26] <rick_h_> <3 https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2013-February/036537.html
[18:26] <rick_h_> I can have Debian Ubuntu please!
[18:37] <snap-l> http://decafbad.net/2013/02/27/mechanical-keyboards-or-youre-typing-it-wrong <- Keyboard discussion in comments
[18:39] <greg-g> OH YIPPEE! KEYBOARD DISCUSSION IN COMMENTS!
[18:39] <snap-l> greg-g: Heh
[18:39]  * greg-g actually cares about keyboards, just, you know, sounds funny ;)
[18:40] <greg-g> which is why I hate this new dell xps, the keyboard is basically a macbook air one :( :( :( :(
[18:40] <snap-l> I actually liked the Macbook Air keyboard
[18:40] <snap-l> and the Aluminum
[18:40] <snap-l> It made no illusions of being a deep keyboard
[18:41] <brousch> I was surprised how usable the Transformer Infinity keyboard is
[18:41] <jjesse> whats wrong w/ the macbook ari keyboard?
[18:41] <jjesse> i love the keyboard on mine
[18:42] <jjesse> i'm just the idiot that can't spell
[18:42] <snap-l> Ugh, the Air has the same scissor-spring shit that the Logitech ones did
[18:43] <jjesse> its better than the Dell desktop the customer has me working on
[18:43] <snap-l> yea, Dell really cheaped out
[18:43] <snap-l> Their business laptops were OK
[18:43] <snap-l> but over time they kept getting cheaper and cheaper and ...
[18:44] <snap-l> "Who wants to race to the bottom?!?"
[18:44] <greg-g> well: A) bad layout and B) just feels loose