| barrydk | Good morning all | 05:27 |
|---|---|---|
| superfly | morning barrydk | 05:32 |
| superfly | Maaz: tell Kilos hoekom slap just night?! :-P | 05:32 |
| Maaz | superfly: Righto, I'll tell Kilos on freenode | 05:32 |
| Kilos | lol hiya superfly and others | 05:40 |
| Kilos | funny message | 05:40 |
| superfly | Kilos: yeah, autocorrect fail | 05:43 |
| Kilos | lol | 05:43 |
| Squirm | morning | 05:53 |
| Kilos | hi sq | 05:54 |
| Kilos | ai | 05:54 |
| Squirm | tab | 05:54 |
| Kilos | Squirm, | 05:54 |
| Squirm | the little key on the left of your keyboard :) | 05:54 |
| Squirm | it says Tab | 05:54 |
| Kilos | i need that dd command you use please to clone one drive to another | 05:54 |
| Squirm | dd if=/path/to/the/drive/you/want/to/clone of=/path/to/the/other/drive bs=1M | 05:55 |
| Kilos | this drive i thought i fixed shows structure ok with testdisk but says read only | 05:55 |
| Kilos | grrr | 05:55 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 05:55 |
| Squirm | make sure the `if` is the one you want to KEEP | 05:56 |
| Kilos | dd if=/dev/sda of of=/dev/sdb | 05:56 |
| Kilos | is that it? | 05:57 |
| Kilos | oh and the end bit | 05:57 |
| Squirm | dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb bs=1M | 05:57 |
| Kilos | ty Squirm | 05:57 |
| Squirm | so /dev/sda is the one you want to keep? | 05:57 |
| Squirm | cause you will lose everything on /dev/sdb | 05:57 |
| Kilos | i had a saved file on how to mount it manually and chmod to it but cant open the file this morning for some weird reason | 05:58 |
| Squirm | mount /dev/sdb1 /mountpoint/here | 05:58 |
| Squirm | chmod 777 /mountpoint/here | 05:59 |
| Kilos | just like that? | 05:59 |
| Squirm | the 777 will make everyone be able to read and right to it | 05:59 |
| Squirm | and execute off | 05:59 |
| Squirm | that should work | 05:59 |
| Kilos | oh you not telling me to put /dev/sdb1 in there where mountpoint is? | 06:00 |
| Kilos | chmod: cannot access `/mountpoint/here': No such file or directory | 06:05 |
| Kilos | ai | 06:05 |
| superfly | Kilos: my message meant to say, "hoekom slaap jy nog?!" | 06:18 |
| superfly | :-) | 06:18 |
| superfly | morning Squirm | 06:18 |
| Kilos | lol i guessed that much ty superfly | 06:18 |
| Kilos | it just looked funny | 06:18 |
| Kilos | was actually up trying to get this other drive going | 06:19 |
| Kilos | Squirm, will that clone command do the mbr as well same time? | 06:20 |
| Kilos | thats where the corruption is | 06:21 |
| superfly | Kilos: dd applies to everything | 06:22 |
| Kilos | wonderful ty superfly | 06:23 |
| Kilos | ty Squirm | 06:23 |
| Kilos | if/when i have it going again i will post pics of the sata cable soldering direct to drive | 06:28 |
| superfly | morning henkj | 06:28 |
| Kilos | yo henkj | 06:28 |
| henkj | morning superfly Kilos | 06:28 |
| superfly | henkj: do you know about ScaleConf? | 06:29 |
| henkj | superfly: I attended last year | 06:29 |
| henkj | :) | 06:29 |
| superfly | going to be able to attend this year? | 06:29 |
| henkj | I assume so, since my company is a sponsor, and I'm working on server dev | 06:30 |
| superfly | ah right | 06:30 |
| superfly | Well, I'll be going, and my boss is one of the speakers :-) | 06:30 |
| henkj | but it hasn't been confirmed who's going yet | 06:30 |
| henkj | right, I remember seeing that | 06:30 |
| henkj | our speaker isn't on the list | 06:32 |
| magespawn | good day | 06:33 |
| superfly | morning magespawn | 06:33 |
| magespawn | Kilos: just reading the chatter, you trying to dd a healthy deive onto a sick one? | 06:34 |
| magespawn | s/deive/drive | 06:35 |
| Kilos | yessir magespawn , morning | 06:35 |
| magespawn | 0/ | 06:35 |
| magespawn | be interesting to see if it works | 06:35 |
| Kilos | stupid thing said it was read only when i tried to use testdisk to install mbr | 06:36 |
| Kilos | would even boot from seatools cds | 06:36 |
| Kilos | very sick drive it is/was. heres hoping | 06:37 |
| Kilos | wouldnt boot | 06:37 |
| Kilos | seatools just said drive not seen | 06:37 |
| Kilos | gparted still doesnt see it | 06:38 |
| Kilos | grrr | 06:38 |
| superfly | Kilos: then it is probably too damaged to salvage, and if you do manage to get it working, you're only going to loose any data you try to store on it | 06:39 |
| Kilos | ah | 06:40 |
| Kilos | lemme reboot and see if this drive shows errors again | 06:41 |
| Kilos | wbb | 06:41 |
| magespawn | sounds like something if failing but not yet failed | 06:42 |
| magespawn | Update involved page http://ubuntu-za.org/get-involved | 06:42 |
| inetpro | good morning | 06:43 |
| inetpro | Maaz: coffee on | 06:44 |
| * Maaz flips the salt-timer | 06:44 | |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for inetpro! | 06:48 |
| inetpro | Maaz: dankie | 06:49 |
| Maaz | Groot plesier inetpro my vriend | 06:49 |
| inetpro | magespawn, superfly: I would suggest rather than linking to the agenda on that page you link to the ubuntu-za loco page where upcoming events and meetings are listed | 06:50 |
| inetpro | http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-za | 06:50 |
| inetpro | otherwise you will have to change that link to the agenda each month | 06:51 |
| jrgns | morning all | 07:18 |
| magespawn | this link inetpro http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-za/542/detail/ | 07:18 |
| Vince-0 | haai | 07:19 |
| magespawn | ? | 07:19 |
| magespawn | hey Vince-0 | 07:19 |
| inetpro | magespawn: yes that link is only for the meeting on the 18th of March | 07:20 |
| magespawn | do the meeting not stay on the same link then? | 07:20 |
| inetpro | no | 07:20 |
| magespawn | i see | 07:20 |
| magespawn | makes sense then brb | 07:20 |
| magespawn | how is this http://ubuntu-za.org/get-involved | 07:27 |
| inetpro | magespawn: dankie | 07:30 |
| magespawn | cool | 07:30 |
| * staticrat waves hello | 07:34 | |
| inetpro | staticrat: good morning | 07:52 |
| inetpro | Vince-0: wb | 07:53 |
| inetpro | ThatGraemeGuy: wb | 07:53 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | thanks! morning all :) | 08:01 |
| magespawn | hey ThatGraemeGuy | 08:03 |
| * Squirm yawns | 08:19 | |
| inetpro | mage-test: it works | 08:20 |
| mage-test | indeed | 08:20 |
| inetpro | :-) | 08:20 |
| mage-test | was just trying the Live Chat in IRC link on the website | 08:21 |
| inetpro | ahh | 08:22 |
| mage-test | ah okay so works like a normal chat client | 08:22 |
| Vince-0 | we got that embedded freenode client on our LUG site too | 08:24 |
| magespawn | the embedded client is a good idea for new peeps | 08:31 |
| magespawn | inetpro: who hosts the website? | 08:32 |
| staticrat | morning inetpro | 08:44 |
| inetpro | magespawn: I forget, but it's somewhere in Cape Town | 08:45 |
| magespawn | maybe superfly knows who hosts it | 08:49 |
| magespawn | you know in canada they can get 175 Mbps up and down for 149 canadian or is R1199 rand per month all inclusive | 08:59 |
| magespawn | and 300gb usage | 08:59 |
| magespawn | kind of makes our 40Mpbs uncapped for R10700 look a bit backward | 09:00 |
| Kilos | hi jrgns Vince-0 charl_ | 10:19 |
| jrgns | hi Kilos | 10:22 |
| Kilos | hi mazal | 10:27 |
| mazal | Middag oom Kilos | 10:27 |
| Vince-0 | Hi Kilos | 10:31 |
| Squirm | oh look | 10:37 |
| Squirm | I have an Ubuntu question | 10:37 |
| Squirm | hmm | 10:37 |
| mazal | Shoot | 10:37 |
| Kilos | lol | 10:38 |
| Squirm | when a user logs onto a system for the first time, Ubuntu creates said persons home dir. This is all fine, but I don't want the other directories inside of said home dir. I understand Desktop, that should be fine. But I don't want Documents, Music, Pictures, etc. I have checked /etc/skel and they're not created there. I seem to remember finding it somewhere but for the life of me I can't remember where and can't find where on google either | 10:38 |
| Squirm | shoh, haven't typed a message like that in a while | 10:39 |
| mazal | Now that would ne handy to know | 10:39 |
| mazal | I use a desktop as a server and users only use their home folder for backups and have also wondered before if that creation of folders can be disabled | 10:40 |
| Kilos | i think on maverick i just deleted pics and documents there in places | 10:43 |
| Kilos | deleted/removed | 10:44 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/xdg-user-dirs | 10:45 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | i imagine xdg-user-dirs is pulled in as a dependency of the base desktop install, so i'm not sure exactly what the implications would be of disabling creation of those folder | 10:47 |
| inetpro | interesting | 10:47 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | +s | 10:47 |
| inetpro | I guess you could try uninstalling xdg-user-dirs | 10:50 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | or just sudo sed -i 's/enabled=True/enabled=False/' /etc/xdg/user-dirs.conf | 10:51 |
| inetpro | yep, I was about to say look at /etc/xdg/user-dirs.conf | 10:53 |
| Kilos | inetpro, you foned onderstepoort yet? | 10:53 |
| inetpro | Kilos: no man | 10:53 |
| inetpro | I forget personal stuffs when I reach the office | 10:54 |
| inetpro | and when I get home it takes me a couple of hours before I forget about work | 10:55 |
| Kilos | im sure if theyll do it it will be a coupla hundred not thousand | 10:55 |
| inetpro | Squirm: or you could just modify /etc/xdg/user-dirs.defaults | 11:08 |
| zeref | hi guys. i'm looking to repair a table in mysql. so my plan of action is to stop mysql, backup /var/lib/mysql, retart mysql, repair the table. | 11:13 |
| zeref | sound good? | 11:13 |
| Griffin_ | Hi everyone | 11:43 |
| Griffin_ | Anyone online | 11:44 |
| mazal | Lo Griffin_ | 11:49 |
| Griffin_ | I understand there is a get together the 3rd | 11:49 |
| Griffin_ | Anyone here going? | 11:49 |
| mazal | Not me , dunno who here is going maybe | 11:50 |
| Griffin_ | Ok, just asking. I actually don't live anywhere near the location but wanted to know if the last one was a huge success or just another getogether | 11:51 |
| Kilos | hi Griffin_ | 11:52 |
| Griffin_ | HI @Kilos | 11:52 |
| Kilos | you a tweeter? | 11:53 |
| Kilos | hehe | 11:53 |
| Kilos | we dont use @ on irc | 11:53 |
| Kilos | have you been here before Griffin_ ? | 11:53 |
| Kilos | my memory sucks | 11:54 |
| Griffin_ | No first time. pulling nerd reage on the linux thing. Finally went over after years of MS | 11:57 |
| inetpro | Griffin_: welcome to #ubuntu-za | 11:59 |
| inetpro | Griffin_: are you referring to the Global Bug Jam in Cape Town? | 11:59 |
| inetpro | the event was organised by guys in here, feel free to stick around and have a chat with them | 12:00 |
| inetpro | using irc via the web interface can be frustrating though so I suggest you install and use one of the many irc clients available for the purpose | 12:02 |
| Kilos | welcome to ubuntu-za Griffin_ you must visit more often now | 12:02 |
| Kilos | like daily | 12:02 |
| Kilos | xchat | 12:02 |
| Kilos | hehe | 12:03 |
| Griffin_ | Yes talking about the event at CT. I've been running Ubuntu 12.04 LTS for about 4 months now and except for the nvidia drivers problem its replaced everyting that was MS related | 12:03 |
| mazal | Nice :) | 12:04 |
| Kilos | great | 12:04 |
| Griffin_ | I run a IT company on the side and have been looking at converting a few small company's I maintain an was hoping to find a few people in the same position | 12:05 |
| Griffin_ | Anyone here done something like that? | 12:06 |
| Vince-0 | Griffin_, Hi! Are you doing using Linux in business ? | 12:06 |
| Kilos | some of the guys here have done evrything so hang around and see who pops up with what | 12:06 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | i wish i had time to make a little extra money on the side | 12:07 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | 2 kids and a wife tends to suck up all my time AND money.... so cruel :-/ | 12:07 |
| Kilos | lol wait till they teenagers ThatGraemeGuy | 12:07 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | ugh i don't want to know :P | 12:08 |
| Kilos | haha | 12:08 |
| Griffin_ | All my current clients are on MS but I am looking at moving over the ones that dont have MS bound applications | 12:10 |
| Kilos | good | 12:11 |
| Kilos | you new to linux? | 12:11 |
| Kilos | if so this is the best help channel available | 12:11 |
| Kilos | even got ubuntu developers here | 12:12 |
| Kilos | ohi tumbleweed | 12:12 |
| tumbleweed | o/ | 12:12 |
| Kilos | one of the other things with maaz was the google replies given twice | 12:12 |
| Kerbero | So what ThatGraemeGuy is trying to say is "don't marry and don't have kids" | 12:13 |
| Griffin_ | Been playing around with it for some time but WIN8 and my Raspberry Pi finally convinced me | 12:13 |
| Kilos | lol | 12:14 |
| Griffin_ | ThatGraemeGuy atleast has a life outside work :-D | 12:14 |
| Kerbero | Griffin_: everything that i do these days uses a RPi somewhere in it | 12:14 |
| Kerbero | Internship, M-research and currently overseas at another uni | 12:14 |
| Kerbero | all wanting to use the Pi | 12:14 |
| Kilos | you know how to use the terminal Griffin_ | 12:15 |
| Kilos | and sudo and stuff | 12:15 |
| Griffin_ | Kerbero: Sweet, I'm building a home automation system. And yes I have mastered the terminal | 12:15 |
| Kerbero | o, my friend is doing that too | 12:15 |
| Kerbero | with his pi | 12:15 |
| Kerbero | koiosify | 12:16 |
| Griffin_ | sudo and terminal was the least of my worries. Been a command prompt guy for years. Did have a MASSIVE issue with getting the graphics card to work with 2HDMI outputs | 12:16 |
| Kilos | ah it didnt bring up additional drivers are available | 12:17 |
| Griffin_ | Kerbero: No event that. Blank screen at install | 12:17 |
| Griffin_ | Kerbero: Does your friend also do the electronics or does he buy a kit or integrate someting else? | 12:18 |
| Kilos | ai! i get that with 1.10 so went back to 12.04 | 12:18 |
| Kerbero | build it himself | 12:18 |
| Kerbero | we are graduated electronic engineers | 12:18 |
| Squirm | .:Kilos:. i think on maverick i just deleted pics and documents there in places <<-- Kilos: Won't quite work with my setup | 12:19 |
| Griffin_ | *12.04 | 12:19 |
| Squirm | ThatGraemeGuy: I had a look at xdg-user-dirs. I think I just remembered I did disable it | 12:19 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | Squirm, and its still re-creating the dirs at login? | 12:20 |
| Kilos | oh | 12:20 |
| Kilos | Griffin_, | 12:20 |
| Squirm | I mean, previously | 12:20 |
| Squirm | ThatGraemeGuy: so I will try it now again | 12:20 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | ah ok | 12:20 |
| Kilos | ctrlalt+f2 | 12:20 |
| Kilos | then type in sudo apt-get install gdm | 12:21 |
| Kilos | its the lightdm thing that dont work good to start | 12:21 |
| Kilos | then it will ask which one you wanna use, choose gdm and you wont have blank screen | 12:22 |
| Kilos | uh oh | 12:26 |
| Kilos | wb Griffin_ is it fixed? | 12:30 |
| Griffin_ | Kilos: Not at my home computer (at work) so I will try the next time I re-install | 12:30 |
| Kilos | ah ok | 12:30 |
| Griffin_ | I am running a working 12.4 right now so don't want to mess with it too much since I have a few very importan projects running at this time | 12:31 |
| Kilos | sometimes lightdm works and works well. | 12:32 |
| Kilos | it depends on the machine i think | 12:32 |
| mazal | Graphics is still the one weak link in Ubuntu | 12:33 |
| Griffin_ | Thats the thing I always had against linux. I have never encountered a MS installations that did not finish. No matter the hardware it always installed. But my frustration with WIN8 finally pushed me to make it work | 12:34 |
| mazal | Many users battle with graphics | 12:34 |
| inetpro | no | 12:34 |
| Griffin_ | Is this becuause of the lack of support for open drivers from the OEM's or where does the problem come from | 12:34 |
| inetpro | you guys are either very lucky or have not worked on a lot of hardware with windows | 12:35 |
| inetpro | linux has more driver support for hardware than windows has | 12:35 |
| mazal | Griffin_, I dunno , but they defnitely need to put more effort into that part | 12:35 |
| Griffin_ | I have doen installations of over a 1000 machines at some sites and no issues with MS. The only problem is if the drivers are not found it is slow as hell but does install | 12:36 |
| mazal | Apart from the graphics I agree with inetpro , I have installed Ubuntu on many different types of pc's with many different types of hardware. And I never had any major issues | 12:36 |
| mazal | Screen drivers is the only drivers I ever need to install. Never had to install any other driver | 12:37 |
| inetpro | obviously not everything is perfect but there is a woraround most of the time | 12:37 |
| inetpro | workaround as well | 12:37 |
| Kilos | Griffin_, what graphics card? | 12:38 |
| mazal | Oi gotta go | 12:38 |
| mazal | Enjoy the evening guys | 12:38 |
| Griffin_ | I guess it also depends on experiance. With MS there are other places where you need to know certain commands but it just starts a little early with ubuntu installations | 12:38 |
| inetpro | mazal: enjoy the weekend | 12:38 |
| Kilos | you can type additional in the dash and it will show additional drivers you can get | 12:38 |
| Kilos | toods mazal | 12:38 |
| Kilos | hehe ubuntu loves working with the terminal | 12:39 |
| Kilos | important commands to remember on any new install is | 12:40 |
| Kilos | sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get dist-upgrade | 12:41 |
| Griffin_ | Those I got and made note of at the beginning. So other that support what do you guys do for a living? | 12:41 |
| Kilos | they all do IT work | 12:42 |
| Kilos | i rest | 12:42 |
| Kilos | some networking guys and other sysadmins etc | 12:42 |
| tonberry352_ | And a few engineers | 12:43 |
| Griffin_ | Haha, that was the assumption | 12:43 |
| Griffin_ | tonberry352_: engineers mmm... what kind? O and please dont say the good kind | 12:43 |
| Kilos | haha | 12:43 |
| tonberry352_ | EE | 12:43 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | <-sysadmin | 12:45 |
| Griffin_ | Sweet, I’m a bobby electronic enthusiast, programmer and all round IT sys admin. Appears I am in the right place | 12:45 |
| Kilos | yip | 12:47 |
| Kilos | all you need is to install xchat then you dont have to use a browser to get here | 12:48 |
| Griffin_ | Unfortunately, this is my work PC so wil do that on my Ubuntu box. | 12:49 |
| Kilos | we are here nights too | 12:50 |
| Kilos | some night owls live here | 12:50 |
| Griffin_ | Kilos: Can I assume your one? | 12:51 |
| Kilos | nope Griffin_ im a ballie that goes to bed early | 12:51 |
| Kilos | hehe | 12:51 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | my work pc is an ubuntu box, woop woop! | 12:52 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | is a laptop a box? hrmmm | 12:52 |
| Griffin_ | Bed.. that thing your read about and hear other people speak about in the afternoons. If only | 12:52 |
| Kilos | lol | 12:52 |
| Kilos | youll get there one day | 12:52 |
| Griffin_ | My first manager use to say you can sleep when your dead | 12:53 |
| Kilos | beem there done that | 12:53 |
| Kilos | pulled a windows trick | 12:54 |
| Kilos | reboot to complete the install | 12:54 |
| Griffin_ | I am enjoying the last few day I have admin right to my own pc. Working on a project for a big company international company where we will be rolling out a standard win7 image across all computers. My sites have about 680 to be done in 6weeks | 12:56 |
| Kilos | whew | 12:56 |
| Griffin_ | Then it's dual boot OS or suffer the regtrictions of the overseas sys admins | 12:57 |
| Griffin_ | *restrictions | 12:58 |
| Kilos | ai! | 12:58 |
| Kilos | be good to convert them all to ubuntu | 12:58 |
| Kilos | less gray hairs and live longer | 12:59 |
| Griffin_ | If only it was our decision but that’s the corporate world for you! | 13:00 |
| Kilos | yeah | 13:00 |
| Griffin_ | But now to my big question regarding smaller companies. Does linux have a replacement for AD or not really? | 13:01 |
| Squirm | thanks ThatGraemeGuy, seems good | 13:01 |
| Kilos | Maaz, google linus alternative for AD | 13:02 |
| Maaz | Kilos: "Active Directory Alternative | Linux.com" http://www.linux.com/community/forums/system-management/active-directory-alternative/limit/20/offset/0 :: "linux - What Are Some Good Open Source Alternatives to Active ..." http://serverfault.com/questions/13419/what-are-some-good-open-source-alternatives-to-active-directory :: "Best FOSS Active Directory | 13:02 |
| Maaz | Alternative? - Slashdot" http://tech.slashdot.org/story/09/01/17/2255247/best-foss-active-director… | 13:02 |
| Squirm | ThatGraemeGuy: a box holds things? laptop holds things | 13:02 |
| Squirm | it's just a thin box | 13:02 |
| Squirm | ldap | 13:02 |
| Squirm | @ Griffin_ | 13:02 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | Griffin_, you can get centralised auth, group permissions and that sort of thing, but the biggest thing you won't get is a group policy equivalent | 13:02 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | Squirm: my lapbox :) | 13:03 |
| Griffin_ | I can Google too. Wanted to know if there is anyone that actively uses this in a AD like environment | 13:03 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | Griffin_, actually scratch that come to think of it, you can actually get something close to group policy with puppet | 13:03 |
| Griffin_ | puppet, will have a look at that. I work with allot of schools as well and I am looking at something that can replicate the control I have with AD and GPO's over the system | 13:07 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | puppet is a configuration management solution. it lets you describe the configuration in its own language and then translates that into native actions on the target system | 13:08 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | so for example you might have something like 'server1 must have the apache2 package installed', and on an ubuntu box that would result in it running 'apt-get install apache2', but on a redhat box it would do 'rpm bla bla something' | 13:09 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | (i don't know redhat) | 13:09 |
| Kilos | thats Squirm s department | 13:11 |
| Griffin_ | Just flipped trough a tut on one of the sites and gathered that much. Will have a in depth look later on | 13:11 |
| Griffin_ | Well will chat a little later. I am packing up to go home. Then some programming but will install xchat and see everyone later on | 13:13 |
| Kilos | later Griffin_ | 13:14 |
| Kilos | sigh | 13:15 |
| Kilos | why dont we get visitors that know less than me | 13:15 |
| * Kilos cries | 13:15 | |
| Squirm | because you're smart enough to get onto irc | 13:22 |
| Kilos | no no the fly told me how | 13:23 |
| Squirm | and I don't know that much :/ | 13:24 |
| Squirm | I'm just glad I can now follow a lot of conversations | 13:24 |
| Squirm | not be able to do it, least I have some form of understanding. | 13:24 |
| * Squirm pokes Symmetria | 13:25 | |
| Squirm | he was no help a while back, cause he spoke gibberish :P | 13:25 |
| Kilos | lol | 13:25 |
| Kilos | everyone spoke gibberish when i first came here | 13:26 |
| Kilos | you even taught me how to get mxit on pidgin | 13:27 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | is mxit still a thing? :o | 13:47 |
| Kilos | i use it all the time and most of the family too | 13:48 |
| Kilos | but lotsa peeps gone whatsapp now | 13:49 |
| Kilos | and bbm | 13:49 |
| tonberry352_ | we are no longer their target market | 13:49 |
| Kilos | mxit is more stable than other ims | 13:49 |
| Kilos | when your browser wont even connect mxit does | 13:49 |
| inetpro | Kilos: but you can still not mxit from PC to mobile, can you? | 14:17 |
| inetpro | PC to mobile or vice versa | 14:17 |
| Kilos | yessir | 14:18 |
| Kilos | you even get mxitevo that doesnt need to register with a fone first | 14:18 |
| inetpro | interesting | 14:19 |
| Kilos | i can see mxit from my cell here on the pc inetpro | 14:19 |
| Kilos | mxit rocks | 14:19 |
| Kilos | tara uses mxitevo on her pc | 14:20 |
| Kilos | and boet did in saudi | 14:20 |
| Kilos | and she has it on her cell as well | 14:20 |
| inetpro | hmm | 14:23 |
| * inetpro still not convinced | 14:23 | |
| inetpro | not sure that I need yet another IM in my life | 14:24 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | mxit is over, my mom is ancient and even she's using whatsapp now | 14:24 |
| tonberry352_ | most of africa does not own a smartphone | 14:33 |
| magespawn | afternnoon all | 14:37 |
| Kilos | and the nice thing about mxit is peeps get messages you leave when they come online | 14:37 |
| Kilos | no need to tell maaz | 14:37 |
| Kilos | i had mxit on my razr v3 | 14:38 |
| Kilos | you dont need a smartfone | 14:38 |
| Kilos | hi magespawn | 14:38 |
| Kilos | whatsapp seems more popular but cant add it to pidgin so to me it sucks | 14:39 |
| Kilos | and all the android stuff i tried to get it on here | 14:40 |
| Kilos | whew | 14:40 |
| magespawn | whatsapp is actually starting to charge | 14:40 |
| Kilos | oh ya mxit is free as in beer | 14:41 |
| Kilos | hehe | 14:41 |
| Vince-0 | Noo! Don't use proprietary protocols on closed networks | 14:48 |
| magespawn | nice to see new peeps hey Kilos | 14:54 |
| Kilos | yeah | 14:55 |
| Kilos | and another one lost to ms | 14:55 |
| Kilos | thats the best part | 14:55 |
| magespawn | home time later all | 14:57 |
| Kilos | hey griffin_ you a winsucks expert ? | 15:33 |
| griffin_ | Define winsucks? | 15:35 |
| Kilos | windows | 15:35 |
| griffin_ | O sorry had it as winshits., but yea I think I know my way around | 15:35 |
| Kilos | i got a channel where we help friends from here only with wondows probs | 15:35 |
| griffin_ | Whats the problem? | 15:36 |
| Kilos | we dont do windows help here so try help them there | 15:36 |
| Kilos | luckily it isnt often | 15:36 |
| griffin_ | O ok. What is the channel name? | 15:36 |
| Kilos | np now but would be nice to have a backup when we get tuck | 15:36 |
| Kilos | ##kilos | 15:37 |
| griffin_ | A original | 15:37 |
| Kilos | stuck as well | 15:37 |
| griffin_ | Well I'm available when online | 15:37 |
| Kilos | sometimes guys get funny probs like last night was outlook passwords missing or something | 15:38 |
| Kilos | ty sir | 15:38 |
| Squirm | staff vs. prefects water polo | 15:38 |
| Squirm | I'm dead :/ | 15:38 |
| Kilos | lol who won | 15:38 |
| griffin_ | Missing or just asking for the account details repeatedly ? | 15:38 |
| Squirm | prefects :/ | 15:38 |
| Squirm | like 8-4 | 15:39 |
| Kilos | yeah asking because of moving on servers or something | 15:39 |
| Kilos | but they got around it | 15:39 |
| Kilos | shame Squirm hang head | 15:39 |
| griffin_ | Yea I know @lantic has that problem allot when the servers are down. You keep getting the popup in outlook and the users keep filling in Sh1t | 15:40 |
| Kilos | lol | 15:40 |
| griffin_ | Kilos: do you use steam on Ubuntu or not yet? | 15:40 |
| Squirm | griffin_: it's not great :/ | 15:41 |
| Kilos | nope i dont have data to play games | 15:41 |
| Kilos | some of the guys do though | 15:41 |
| griffin_ | I know... cannot remember my account name and it keeps hanging when trying to retrieve it | 15:41 |
| Squirm | not many games for it yet. but it will come, seeing as it is the steam engine | 15:41 |
| Kilos | griffin_, open a new one | 15:42 |
| griffin_ | Allot of my fav games are on steam. Also a big reason I ported because I knew it was comming | 15:42 |
| griffin_ | Virtualbox>win7>steam>retrieve | 15:42 |
| Kilos | or they must have a forum or email addy you can query at | 15:43 |
| Kilos | lol you got 7 inna box? | 15:43 |
| Squirm | griffin_: you should be able to go through the steps on their website | 15:43 |
| Kilos | my son has to do that too to do work | 15:43 |
| griffin_ | Yep. Some of the CAD software does not run so nice on Ubuntu | 15:43 |
| Kilos | when you have some more experience you can try kubuntu as well | 15:44 |
| Squirm | supper time. I hope this cool weather stays for tomorrow | 15:44 |
| Squirm | then it must bake | 15:44 |
| Kilos | ubuntu has many flavours | 15:45 |
| griffin_ | Just had a look at some images and it looks nice but I dont like the KDE interface that much | 15:45 |
| Kilos | it takes some getting used to but i find it does installing apps faster | 15:46 |
| Kilos | the fly and pro can tell you where else its better | 15:47 |
| Kilos | oh we got python experts here too | 15:47 |
| griffin_ | I like the unity interface because the side bar is usually where I put my windows one anyways. | 15:47 |
| griffin_ | Anyone doing java and php? | 15:47 |
| Kilos | lol | 15:48 |
| Kilos | creature of habit | 15:48 |
| Kilos | ya nuvolari does java | 15:48 |
| Kilos | and someone else | 15:48 |
| griffin_ | I my G0d just noticed how I sounded like a noob saying that | 15:48 |
| Kilos | php dont seem very popular here | 15:49 |
| Kilos | but ThatGraemeGuy does it | 15:49 |
| griffin_ | From what I remember from the start linux and python go hand in hand | 15:50 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | i do what now? | 15:50 |
| griffin_ | ThatGraemeGuy: <-PHP | 15:51 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | oh, no i don't do drugs | 15:52 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | :-! | 15:52 |
| griffin_ | Haha java then? | 15:52 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | nope | 15:52 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | i'm a sysadmin | 15:52 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | i did some php YEARS ago but that would be worthless nowadays | 15:52 |
| griffin_ | O then you do everything right? | 15:52 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | also Tcl way back | 15:52 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | lol | 15:53 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | bash & Python is what i do mostly | 15:53 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | or vbscript/powershell if i'm doing windowsy things | 15:53 |
| griffin_ | Do you have a workaround for getting past Applocker in win7 or not | 15:54 |
| Kilos | oh sorry ThatGraemeGuy | 15:54 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | i ... uh | 15:54 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | don't know what that is | 15:54 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | i'm primarily an ubuntu guy for the past 4 years almost, so my windows is pretty rusty | 15:55 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | particularly desktop-side windows stuffs | 15:55 |
| griffin_ | It's a issue we will be having in the coming weeks because the higher up sys admins have locked down all exe's using it. It sucks balls | 15:55 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | i left my laptop at home the other day and i was using a spare with win7, spent an hour trying to get my external display to work at native resolution | 15:56 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | gave up, worked with 1 screen for the day | 15:56 |
| griffin_ | External displays.... HDMI, s-video... why are these things still a issue 10 years down the line | 15:57 |
| griffin_ | Point, click, select and apply... what makes that so difficult | 15:58 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | yeah | 15:58 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | ok it's time to abandon ship, yay! | 16:01 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | later all | 16:01 |
| griffin_ | Cheerz | 16:01 |
| Kilos | yo drussell hows things | 16:36 |
| Kilos | ? | 16:36 |
| Kilos | hi Cantide | 16:43 |
| Cantide | hey Kilos | 16:43 |
| Cantide | i am going to be CanStudy tonight :p | 16:43 |
| Cantide | hopefully for the last time :) | 16:43 |
| Kilos | lol | 16:44 |
| Kilos | studying never stops | 16:44 |
| Kilos | one is always learning | 16:44 |
| Cantide | yeah | 16:45 |
| Cantide | but at least one doesn't have to stay up until midnight several days in a row to study | 16:46 |
| Cantide | if one is studying casually that is | 16:46 |
| Kilos | yeah | 16:47 |
| Kilos | but also if you dont try cramp just before exams you also dont need to stay up till midnight | 16:48 |
| * Cantide whistles | 16:49 | |
| Cantide | i no longer have exams | 16:49 |
| Cantide | just one final assignment | 16:49 |
| Cantide | but 4 essay questions of 5 pages each is a bit much... | 16:49 |
| Kilos | just buckle down and do it man. its not so bad | 16:52 |
| Cantide | yeah | 16:52 |
| Cantide | i've done 3 of them | 16:52 |
| Cantide | 1 left | 16:52 |
| Cantide | i've prepared it already | 16:52 |
| Kilos | see | 16:52 |
| Cantide | just need to write it now | 16:52 |
| Cantide | going to start at 7 | 16:53 |
| Cantide | and hopefully finish by 10.. | 16:53 |
| Cantide | else it's going to be a long, long night | 16:53 |
| Kilos | how long is it gonna take to finish it? | 16:58 |
| Kilos | i go eat | 16:59 |
| Kilos | wbb | 16:59 |
| Cantide | i don't know... 3 hours? | 17:00 |
| * Cantide shrugs | 17:00 | |
| Cantide | it's on T.S. Eliot... might take longer.. | 17:00 |
| magespawn | evening all | 17:11 |
| Cantide | hi~ | 17:12 |
| === Cantide is now known as CanStudy | ||
| Kilos | hi magespawn | 17:14 |
| magespawn | hey CanStudy Kilos | 17:15 |
| CanStudy | '-'/ | 17:15 |
| Kilos | hey magespawn you must take a look at spfdisk on ubcd | 17:22 |
| magespawn | will do Kilos | 17:22 |
| Kilos | quite a potent tool | 17:23 |
| magespawn | bbl network playing around here | 17:25 |
| Kilos | ok | 17:25 |
| Squirm | almost bed time | 17:48 |
| Vince-0 | yoh the Internet strikes again: http://memeburn.com/2013/02/brace-yourselves-here-comes-the-darth-pistorius-meme/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+memeburncom+%28memeburn%29 | 18:43 |
| Kilos | hey ThatGraemeGuy nice to see you here at night as well now | 18:44 |
| Kilos | last night too | 18:44 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | 'ello :) | 18:44 |
| Kilos | sup Vince-0 | 18:45 |
| Vince-0 | Ag same dizl | 18:45 |
| Kilos | ah well thats life hey | 18:45 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | last night i had intentions of sitting through some units of a udacity course i started | 18:46 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | never happened though | 18:46 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | tonight i had the same idea but i just don't feel like it | 18:46 |
| Kilos | lol | 18:46 |
| Kilos | near bed time for ballies too | 18:47 |
| Kilos | old married fathers | 18:47 |
| Kilos | hehe | 18:47 |
| Vince-0 | Ya dis ook laat vir klien kinders | 18:47 |
| * Symmetria dances around | 18:47 | |
| Symmetria | as a private contractor | 18:47 |
| Symmetria | today was the most awesome day a guy like me can have | 18:47 |
| Symmetria | one of those days where EVERYTHING falls into place | 18:47 |
| Vince-0 | ThatGraemeGuy, what course? | 18:47 |
| Vince-0 | Symmetria, thats naas | 18:48 |
| Symmetria | I closed on 2 of the largest contracts I could ever have wished for today | 18:48 |
| * Symmetria can now go and buy the car he wants ;p | 18:48 | |
| Symmetria | and pay for it in cash ;p | 18:48 |
| Kilos | hey Symmetria nice | 18:48 |
| Kilos | now help fanie with the host thing | 18:49 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | Vince-0, https://www.udacity.com/course/cs212 | 18:49 |
| Vince-0 | Nice! | 18:55 |
| * Symmetria is ordering his new car tomorrow ;p | 18:59 | |
| Vince-0 | yoh luckeee | 18:59 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | gtg, baby having a rough night | 19:01 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | night all! | 19:01 |
| inetpro | good evening | 19:23 |
| Kilos | lo inetpro | 19:30 |
| Kilos | you just in time to say night | 19:30 |
| inetpro | Kilos: you still awake at this point? | 19:30 |
| Kilos | only just | 19:30 |
| inetpro | why? | 19:30 |
| Kilos | sleep tight all of you | 19:30 |
| Kilos | well | 19:30 |
| Kilos | why not? | 19:30 |
| inetpro | ok | 19:30 |
| Kilos | lol | 19:30 |
| inetpro | well, good night Kilos | 19:30 |
| Kilos | ok then sleep tight | 19:31 |
| smile4ever | slaapwel :) | 19:32 |
| === CanStudy is now known as CanDONE | ||
| === CanDONE is now known as Cantide | ||
| inetpro | well done can tide | 19:47 |
| Cantide | thanks, inet pro | 19:48 |
| Cantide | I submitted my 10 page assignment | 19:48 |
| Cantide | let's hope i get quick feedback | 19:48 |
| griffin_ | Anyone still awake? | 20:19 |
| Vince-0 | yar kinda | 20:20 |
| griffin_ | Haha late nie hey? | 20:20 |
| griffin_ | *nite | 20:20 |
| Vince-0 | negative, usually awake until midnight | 20:24 |
| Vince-0 | trying to figure out some silly cakePHP ap | 20:24 |
| griffin_ | Work? | 20:24 |
| Vince-0 | just messin' | 20:24 |
| griffin_ | O ok. Work mostly keeps me up till the wee hours of the mornin | 20:24 |
| Vince-0 | Noo thats terrible - do you work for yourself? | 20:25 |
| griffin_ | For myself, for my company for everyone else also it seems some times | 20:25 |
| Vince-0 | ag no man. life is too short | 20:26 |
| griffin_ | Well I have to say the after 5 work is usually the most fun. Then I get to do what I really like | 20:26 |
| Vince-0 | true | 20:27 |
| griffin_ | So what are you messing with/ | 20:27 |
| Vince-0 | opencdrrate project - to do billing calculations on VoIP switches | 20:27 |
| Vince-0 | seems most of these types of projects are poorly documented | 20:28 |
| Vince-0 | and supported | 20:28 |
| griffin_ | Great ideas but documentation is always lacking. I do programming as well and can tell you I would sell my sole to avoid it | 20:29 |
| griffin_ | What voip switches are you using? | 20:30 |
| Vince-0 | Asterisk and Freeswitch | 20:30 |
| griffin_ | The company I work for uses cisco voice gateways. All closed source stuff and managed by a team in Texas | 20:32 |
| Vince-0 | oow that stuff is world class - not sure about the development interfaces though. | 20:32 |
| griffin_ | All linux based which is kinda nice but the only time we get to do with it is when we replace a server or upgrade and even then its just insert CD and press enter | 20:33 |
| Vince-0 | do you know what kind of billing platform that plugs into? | 20:34 |
| griffin_ | Its cisco's custom call manager. Ironically called call manager | 20:35 |
| Vince-0 | oh I've seen those | 20:35 |
| griffin_ | We use to use 3cx voip system tied into a few analog gateways which was very nice. But I never had access to the call manager so dont know what the plug was they used | 20:37 |
| griffin_ | So are you working for a company doing voip or just laerning | 20:38 |
| griffin_ | *learning | 20:38 |
| Vince-0 | both | 20:40 |
| Vince-0 | not exactly programming though | 20:41 |
| Vince-0 | especially not cakephp | 20:41 |
| griffin_ | Was never my department as well. Just mainteined the hardware and setup the initial software | 20:42 |
| Vince-0 | problem is, these things tend to be a little to close to the core of a company to outsource | 20:46 |
| Vince-0 | darned open projects - even the commercial support avenue is an issue | 20:46 |
| superfly | Vince-0: do yourself a favour and forget PHP and learn Python | 20:47 |
| griffin_ | Except when you are a international corporate company. Then you outsource everything | 20:47 |
| Vince-0 | superfly, ! hell yea - I'm doing python. This darned project is in php | 20:47 |
| superfly | griffin_: you don't perhaps work in Century City? | 20:48 |
| griffin_ | superfly: No mining way out in the middle of nowhere | 20:49 |
| superfly | griffin_: ah, OK... I know a company in Century City that uses Cisco stuff, sounds familiar to you | 20:49 |
| superfly | griffin_: you wanted to know what people in here do? I'm a firmware developer | 20:51 |
| griffin_ | No sorry. Big mining company. Gone over to Cisco VOIP for over 2 years now | 20:51 |
| Vince-0 | superfly, firmware! what languages / stuff | 20:51 |
| superfly | Vince-0: C++, C and Assembler | 20:52 |
| superfly | Vince-0: though we have a server which is written in Python | 20:52 |
| Vince-0 | python is the ideal language I think - system procedures, objects and web. I studied Java to some extent | 20:53 |
| superfly | yeah, we're investigating some new hardware which runs embedded Linux, which we're hoping to be able to run Python apps on | 20:53 |
| superfly | and then drop the C++ for Python | 20:54 |
| superfly | well, I gotta head to bed, more C to handle tomorrow | 20:54 |
| Vince-0 | cya | 20:54 |
| griffin_ | Cheerz | 20:55 |
| griffin_ | Well its off to be for me as well. Vince I hope you get done what your looking to do | 20:57 |
| Vince-0 | Thanks! griffin_ cya | 20:59 |
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