[00:00] <Shark_friend> i need to go, now
[00:00] <David-A> Shark_friend: you can download 1 image of the backtrack dragon, but I think it is better if you download many dragon images. In case you need icons with different color or background in different places.
[00:00] <Shark_friend> nice to meet you
[00:00] <Shark_friend> : )
[00:00] <David-A> good luck :)
[00:09] <Debela-KURCINA> Hello!
[00:10] <Debela-KURCINA> i have some questions?
[00:10] <pleia2> ask away :)
[00:10] <Debela-KURCINA> i had a many problems with ubuntu, and this xubuntu is based on it.
[00:10] <Debela-KURCINA> should i try it or...?
[00:11] <pleia2> this is the support channel for xubuntu, if you have questions about ubuntu you'll want to ask them in #ubuntu
[00:11] <pleia2> (or use one of the other support outlets like ubuntuforums.org or askubuntu.com)
[00:11] <Debela-KURCINA> no no
[00:11] <Debela-KURCINA> i want to try
[00:11] <Debela-KURCINA> xubuntu
[00:11] <Debela-KURCINA> but i dont know can i
[00:12] <Debela-KURCINA> bcs xubuntu is based on ubuntu
[00:12] <Debela-KURCINA> ....
[00:12] <Nick___> Yo Debeli
[00:12] <pleia2> what problems are you hoping to avoid by trying xubuntu?
[00:12] <Debela-KURCINA> problems with screen, freeze, restart.
[00:12] <Debela-KURCINA> and freeze player.
[00:12] <Nick___> He have amd graphics and amd based motherboard
[00:13] <Debela-KURCINA> yes,
[00:14] <pleia2> if it's a problem with 3d acceleration using xubuntu could help since it doesn't require it for a standard install
[00:14] <pleia2> but that's a huge "if"
[00:14] <Nick___> He have freeze problem on login page
[00:14] <Nick___> Mouse and keyboard unable to work...
[00:14] <Debela-KURCINA> and ubuntu was so slow...10 mins opening software center....also problems on login page...yes..
[00:14] <pleia2> ah, we use the same login software as ubuntu
[00:14] <Nick___> Wjole sisetm freeze
[00:15] <Debela-KURCINA> then i must try slackware?
[00:15] <Nick___> also problems with software center are persistable...
[00:15] <pleia2> probably worth asking in an Ubuntu support area about how to actually solve the problem rather than just switching to another distro, could be you just need a new graphics driver installed
[00:16] <Debela-KURCINA> i asked them but their community
[00:16] <Debela-KURCINA> says im noob.
[00:16] <pleia2> not sure wat you mean by that, but you might want to try on askubuntu.com or ubuntuforums.org, and be sure to say what graphics card you're using
[00:17] <Debela-KURCINA> ok.
[00:17] <Debela-KURCINA> i have Radeon 7970 in warranty
[00:18] <Debela-KURCINA> good night X
[00:41] <BillyZane> hello.
[00:41] <BillyZane> your desktop crashes on me.
[00:42] <BillyZane> i was in codeblocks, i had modified a code outside codeblocks. it asks me to do some sort of update. i go sure. bam. crashes
[00:42] <BillyZane> i had to do a hard reset
[00:42] <BillyZane> this happens like once every 2 or 3 weeks
[00:42] <BillyZane> unacceptable
[00:42] <BillyZane> why ?
[00:42] <ochosi> not sure what you're saying
[00:43] <ochosi> !codeblocks
[00:43] <ochosi> hm, ubottu doesn't know anything about codeblocks either...
[00:43] <BillyZane> it's a program that lets you code in C
[00:43] <BillyZane> its in the repository
[00:43] <ochosi> right
[00:44] <ochosi> no clue though how that programme is related to "some sort of update" and i don't know _what_ "crashes"
[00:44] <BillyZane> well, you can modify code in that program
[00:44] <BillyZane> it's an IDE
[00:44] <ochosi> yeah, i realize that
[00:45] <BillyZane> so i modified it outside of codeblocks
[00:45] <BillyZane> that is to say, i sometimes use SSH to log in to my computer
[00:45] <BillyZane> and from SSH i used vim to modify the code
[00:45] <ochosi> ok
[00:45] <BillyZane> when i go back in to codeblocks, it's all, "yo, it code changed outside codeblocks. wana update?"
[00:46] <ochosi> right, so it wants to reload the local file
[00:46] <ochosi> sounds reasonable
[00:46] <BillyZane> yup
[00:46] <ochosi> (or one might even say: good)
[00:46] <BillyZane> at that point, xubuntu desktop froze
[00:47] <BillyZane> control alt delete worked
[00:47] <BillyZane> but outside of that, it was dead
[00:47] <BillyZane> im new to linux by the way
[00:47] <ochosi> right
[00:47] <ochosi> if you care about that IDE, file a bugreport about it
[00:47] <BillyZane> ok
[00:47] <ochosi> the best thing is if you file it at their bugtracker
[00:47] <ochosi> but don't expect this to be fixed asap
[00:48] <ochosi> cause fixing implies you can provide backtraces of why/how it crashes
[00:48] <ochosi> the alternative is to use an IDE that doesn't crash/lock your desktop
[00:48] <ochosi> (there are quite a few others)
[00:49] <BillyZane> so i guess it was the IDE then
[00:49] <BillyZane> sorry for blaming xubunut
[00:49] <BillyZane> :(
[00:49] <ochosi> no problem
[00:49] <ochosi> but if it only happens in this context then the first culprit to blame will always be the app
[00:50] <BillyZane> for sure
[00:50] <ochosi> but you can try to run the programme with gdb from the commandline
[00:50] <BillyZane> you know what else doesn't work well? chromium
[00:50] <ochosi> if you're a coder then trying to get backtraces won't be too hard for you
[00:50] <BillyZane> gdb?
[00:50] <ochosi> it's a debugging programme
[00:50] <BillyZane> i'm not, i'm a n00b
[00:50] <ochosi> a-ha
[00:50] <BillyZane> i'm the worst programmer on this network
[00:51] <ochosi> there are ppl who don't really do coding (like yours truly)
[00:51] <BillyZane> at least in ##c
[00:51] <ochosi> is that a language i don't know?
[00:51] <BillyZane> it's C
[00:51] <ochosi> or the successor of c#? ;)
[00:51] <BillyZane> lol
[00:51] <BillyZane> hahah
[00:51] <ochosi> okies
[00:51] <ochosi> well it's all opensource
[00:51] <BillyZane> for sure
[00:52] <ochosi> so you can try to even fix that bug yourself
[00:52] <ochosi> theoretically
[00:52] <BillyZane> i could. one day
[00:52] <ochosi> depends on how comfortable you are reading other ppls code
[00:52] <ochosi> etc
[00:52] <BillyZane> probably not today
[00:52] <ochosi> hehe
[00:52] <ochosi> yeah, probably not
[00:52] <ochosi> btw, how does the desktop crash exactly?
[00:52] <BillyZane> i'm rather busy at the moment. i've squandered so much time
[00:52] <BillyZane> well
[00:52] <David-A> BillyZane: just a question, is the file that you are editing in the IDE that it wants to re-read, on a remote file-system or on the local harddisk?
[00:53] <BillyZane> i clicked and immediately after clicking, it was a complete lock, outside of CTRL-ALT-DEL and CTRL-ALT-F#
[00:53] <BillyZane> local hard disk
[00:53] <ochosi> k
[00:53] <ochosi> sounds harsh for an IDE to lock down X11
[00:53] <ochosi> but it can happen with any app theoretically
[00:53] <BillyZane> i got a lot to learn
[00:54] <BillyZane> i'm reading a linux book
[00:54] <ochosi> it's not a fully fledged IDE, but you can try geany
[00:54] <ochosi> it's lightweight and nice for coding
[00:54] <BillyZane> geany eh. i'll look in to that
[00:54] <BillyZane> i sorta like codeblocks though :(
[00:54] <ochosi> (although "lightweight"... there are ppl who advocate geany-light)
[00:54] <BillyZane> but maybe this one will be better
[00:54] <BillyZane> checking out screen shot
[00:55] <BillyZane> it looks pretty good
[00:55] <BillyZane> i presume it is in the repository
[00:56] <ochosi> yeah, i just checked their website
[00:56] <ochosi> it's written in c++
[00:56] <BillyZane> i love linux. man i was really stunned when i saw the repository in action
[00:56] <ochosi> and it supports gdb (http://www.codeblocks.org/features)
[00:56] <ochosi> so have fun googling your way around gdb to getting a backtrace ;)
[00:56] <BillyZane> i did an apt-cache search, it's in there :D
[00:57] <ochosi> (disclaimer: open terminal, run "gdb $appname", then "run", then "bt" after it crashes)
[00:57] <BillyZane> installing
[00:57] <ochosi> yeah, geany is nice, and from my experience it's rather stable
[00:57] <ochosi> hm, codeblocks still uses svn
[00:57] <BillyZane> oh, i recognize gdb now. gdb is part of the "g package" , like gcc , etc. gdb debugs
[00:58] <BillyZane> never used it exclusively
[00:58] <BillyZane> i think though, it is activated when using gcc no?
[00:58] <BillyZane> svn?
[00:58] <BillyZane> is that a different debugging tool?
[00:58] <BillyZane> oh wow, geany really is light weight
[00:58] <ochosi> svn is a version-control software, like git
[00:58] <BillyZane> it looked instantly
[00:59] <ochosi> sure, that's how it's _supposed_ to be anyway ;)
[00:59] <BillyZane> err. loaded
[00:59] <ochosi> yeah, i assumed that much
[00:59] <BillyZane> i gotta head for work soon
[00:59] <BillyZane> i work in a shoe store
[00:59] <ochosi> you mean like al bundy?
[01:00] <BillyZane> haha
[01:00] <BillyZane> yeah
[01:00] <ochosi> (or are you too young for this kind of pop-cultural reference)
[01:00] <ochosi> obviously not :)
[01:00] <nikolam> why xubuntu desktop install needs 4.3GB, when in uses less after install. GUI installer just dumbly refuses to install if there is less on disk.
[01:00] <BillyZane> i love that show
[01:00] <ochosi> well have fun and see you around
[01:00] <BillyZane> no wait, i can still chat
[01:00] <BillyZane> it takes me about 25 minutes to drive there, i still got an hour
[01:00] <BillyZane> and i'm dressed
[01:00] <ochosi> nikolam: ubuntu and xubuntu use the same installer (ubiquity)
[01:01] <ochosi> nikolam: that might be part of the problem
[01:01] <nikolam> and alternate install is no more. so xubuntu suffer from ubuntu slaws
[01:02] <recon_lap> a 4.3 gb drive being the other
[01:02] <nikolam> it is logical, who am i to complain.
[01:02] <David-A> BillyZane: when I google ' codeblocks freeze ' i find some reports similar to your problem. have you checked them?
[01:02] <BillyZane> David-A: actually, i haven't. i can't believe that :(
[01:02] <ochosi> nikolam: you can always install ubuntu-minimal/server and then install xubuntu-desktop...
[01:03] <nikolam> ochosi, i just did that this evening, and after that 12.10 failed to boot.
[01:03] <nikolam> i added xubuntu-desktop during install.. and no boot.
[01:04] <nikolam> i could try with minimal install. and after booting adding xubuntu desktop
[01:04] <ochosi> yup
[01:04] <nikolam> but i think i was already doing it at least once, few montths ago.
[01:05] <nikolam> no other, but to try again
[01:05] <ochosi> did you file a bugreport?
[01:06] <nikolam> not yet, but bugs don't get fixed untill next release anyway
[01:06] <David-A> BillyZane: if google didn't help please come back. if it helped, please come back anyway, and tell us how you fixed it, or just chat a little.
[01:06] <nikolam> think gonna sleep and do it all over again with minimal.
[01:07] <ochosi> nikolam: k, good night and good luck
[01:07] <BillyZane> David-A: to be honest, I believe you. If you say codeblocks causes that error, then I'll probably just stop using it. It's not that big a loss, because I was suggested an alternative, which is geany. To be honest, I rather prefer the light weight IDE's, which is what attracted me to codeblocks in the first place. given that geany appears even lighter, i'm delighted :). thank you, and i will return
[01:10] <BillyZane> i'm having green tea with lemon. it's quite good
[01:10] <David-A> BillyZane: I didn't tell you not to use codeblock. If there is an easy fix, please try it. Otherwise try something else.
[01:10] <BillyZane> for sure
[01:10] <David-A> I had green tea with lemon an hour ago. I like it too.
[01:10] <BillyZane> haha, really?
[01:11] <BillyZane> i like to put a lot of lemon, half a lemon per cup
[01:11] <David-A> Yea, before that Earl Grey
[01:11] <BillyZane> nice. i've only had earl grey once
[01:12] <David-A> BillyZane: you're a connesour, I just had a tea bag with all the tastes in it from the factory.
[01:12] <BillyZane> haha
[01:13] <BillyZane> i think it goes very well with lime juice
[01:13] <BillyZane> though i've been using lemon lately
[01:14] <BillyZane> it's ironic because i've always hated green tea that comes in the can
[01:14] <BillyZane> but i gave the fresh brewed variety a try and i realized what the big deal was
[01:16] <BillyZane> do you like black tea?
[01:17] <David-A> I thought adding the lime or lemon myself would be unnecessary extra work, almost like compiling a kernel or something, when someone else already have done it for me :)
[01:17] <BillyZane> haha
[01:18] <BillyZane> that's one way to look at it
[01:18] <BillyZane> and if you enjoy the flavor, well i suppose it's not worth the hastle
[01:19] <BillyZane> hassle
[01:19] <BillyZane> have you ever tried making lemonade ?
[01:19] <BillyZane> water + fresh lemon juice + sugar + ice
[01:20] <BillyZane> it's very cheap and extremely good
[01:20] <BillyZane> did you know lemon trees fruit year round? you'd always have a fresh supply of lemons
[01:20] <BillyZane> i gotta go to work now
[01:21] <BillyZane> thanks for the help David-A  and ochosi
[01:21] <BillyZane> i'll see you later
[01:21] <David-A> there is concentrated lemonade you just add water, I like them
[01:21] <ochosi> yw, and hf
[01:21] <David-A> good luck with the ide
[01:21] <BillyZane> you gotta try the real stuff David-A !
[01:21] <BillyZane> thanks
[01:21] <David-A> I will
[01:22] <David-A> we can talk about wild berries another day
[02:11] <Guest80561> Hi. So I burned a live CD and I changed my boot order
[02:11] <Guest80561> And the Xubuntu menu came up.
[02:12] <Guest80561> I tried both the install Xubuntu and try it without installing
[02:13] <Guest80561> but all I am getting is a blank cursor
[02:13] <eduardo> Hello!
[02:13] <David-A> Guest80561: depending on hardware it can take seconds or minutes. how long did you wait?
[02:14] <eduardo> I'm not speak english! I'm from Brazil!
[02:15] <David-A> hello eduardo, I saw you yesterday (yo vista ti dia antes (?))
[02:15] <eduardo> I'm speak Portuguese Brazil not Español!
[02:15] <eduardo> :D
[02:16] <eduardo> Alguém aqui fala português?
[02:16] <eduardo> I'm need help with Xubuntu!
[02:17] <eduardo> Ops! I need help with Xubuntu!
[02:17] <well_laid_lawn> there's !pt or !br if that'll help
[02:17] <well_laid_lawn> !br
[02:18] <eduardo> ubottu: Thanks!
[02:19] <David-A> eduardo: you can try english here, we will be glad to help, or you can try portugese in the #ubuntu-br channel, they may be able to help with Xubuntu too.
[02:20] <eduardo> The Brazilian community can not help me!
[02:20] <eduardo> How do I upgrade the kernel?
[02:21] <eduardo> Someone?
[02:21] <David-A> eduardo: upgrade kernel would be the same procedure in ubuntu and xubuntu.
[02:23] <David-A> eduardo: exactly what do you mean by upgrade kernel? normally when a new kernel is available, it will be updated automatically when you run the Update Manager.
[02:24] <well_laid_lawn> you can have a look in backports for a new kernel
[02:25] <eduardo> Is that my version do kernel it is outdated! The version do kernel in site (kernel.org) is 3.7 and the my is the 3.5
[02:27] <eduardo> Sorry my English! I'm from Brazil and not speak English fluently!
[02:30] <well_laid_lawn> eduardo:  xubuntu doesn't release a new kernel just because there is one
[02:30] <well_laid_lawn> they make sure it is stable which means waiting a bit
[02:35] <David-A> eduardo: do you NEED kernel 3.7 ? (necesidad o just curioso?)
[02:38] <eduardo> yes
[02:39] <eduardo> Someone know where find a course of English? (laughs)
[02:40] <well_laid_lawn> eduardo:  you can get the sources for the newest kernel and build it yourself
[02:40] <well_laid_lawn> !compile
[02:40] <well_laid_lawn> !kernel
[03:28] <inahd> could someone tell me... how i could access the filesystem from a live usb install, from my regular install?
[03:29] <inahd> it has been encrypted on my usb
[03:29] <inahd> methinks
[06:54] <WiredOnLinux> hello
[06:55] <WiredOnLinux> how long does it take for xubuntu 12.04 alt. to install on 512 MB of RAM and 1.8 GHz AMD processor?
[06:56] <baizon> im not sure, 30 min aprox?
[06:56] <baizon> depends on HDD too
[06:58] <koegs> and USB-Stick or CD-Rom as Source
[07:00] <WiredOnLinux> CD-ROM
[07:01] <WiredOnLinux> its going on 30 minutes and its on select and install software
[07:01] <WiredOnLinux> 48 %
[07:03] <WiredOnLinux> its a hp pavilion ze4325us
[07:03] <WiredOnLinux> not sure on the hard drive
[07:03] <bazhang> let it run
[07:03] <WiredOnLinux> ok
[07:04] <bazhang> thats a very small amount of ram
[07:04] <WiredOnLinux> does it auto restart?
[07:04] <bazhang> so it will take some time
[07:04] <WiredOnLinux> ok
[07:04] <bazhang> it will ask you to do so
[07:04] <WiredOnLinux> ok
[07:04] <WiredOnLinux> so I can leave it and it will shutdown, or does it make you rpess enter?
[07:04] <WiredOnLinux> press*
[07:05] <bazhang> it will go to sleep until you return to press restart
[07:05] <WiredOnLinux> ahh ok, I will have my parents do it
[07:05] <WiredOnLinux> ok thanks for your time bazhang
[07:06] <bazhang> np
[07:06] <HonestAbe> howdy chaps
[07:06] <bazhang> hi
[07:06] <HonestAbe> i've got a bizarre problem, my themes are no longer applied
[07:06] <HonestAbe> until i restart my computer
[07:07] <HonestAbe> unless I change the theme under window manager settings, but then it only(obviously) affects window manager stuff
[07:07] <HonestAbe> while the panel remains stubborn
[07:07] <bazhang> depends on how extensive the theming is
[07:07] <HonestAbe> not extensive at all
[07:07] <HonestAbe> vanilla themes
[07:08] <bazhang> if its like a Macbuntu thing I could see a restart being necessary
[07:08] <HonestAbe> not macbuntu either
[07:09] <HonestAbe> and the bizarre thing is that if i do xfce4-panel -r
[07:09] <HonestAbe> the theme remains unchanged, so if anyone could give me a pointer on where to look, that would be fantastic
[07:10] <Unit193> You are changing it under Settings Manager > Appearance, right?
[07:11] <HonestAbe> correct
[07:12] <Unit193> Version of Xubuntu?
[07:13] <HonestAbe> Hmmm, it's telling me I'm running Ubuntu 12.10
[07:14] <HonestAbe> but I migrated it to xubuntu
[07:14] <HonestAbe> perhaps that's my problem?
[07:15] <Unit193> Mine says that too, Ubuntu is the core.  Did you use !purexfce ?  And what happens if you nuke ~/.cache and move (backup) .config?
[07:15] <Unit193> I have no issues doing what you're trying to do, just did it when I updated my theme.
[07:15] <Unit193> Is the theme gtk3 and 2 compatible?
[07:16] <HonestAbe> i have nuked my config already
[07:16] <HonestAbe> and the theme is vanilla
[07:16] <HonestAbe> it was working
[07:16] <HonestAbe> until recently, and I'm not exactly sure what broke it
[07:17] <HonestAbe> and it's not just one theme, it's every theme
[07:19] <HonestAbe> alright, prior to nuking .cache, should I back it up? or is it as disposable as the name implies?
[07:21] <HonestAbe> brb, restarting
[07:26] <HonestAbe> none of that fixed it
[07:30] <HonestAbe> any further suggestions unit193?
[07:34] <Unit193> You are running with xfwm4, thunar, xfce4-session, xfdesktop, and all?
[07:34] <HonestAbe> I am
[07:34] <Unit193> Maybe try restarting those, but I don't know as I've never had any issue like that.
[07:35] <HonestAbe> yeah
[07:35] <HonestAbe> now it's working
[07:35] <HonestAbe> didn't restart them
[07:35] <HonestAbe> not sure what happened
[07:35] <HonestAbe> possibly voodoo?
[07:36] <Unit193> Ah, was going to say try moving ~/.gtkrc-2.0, but alrightyo.
[07:36] <HonestAbe> yeah, i don't even have .gtkrc-*
[07:36] <Unit193> Heh.
[07:38] <HonestAbe> I'm darn near perplexed
[07:38] <Unit193> But, if it works...
[07:40] <HonestAbe> I guess I need to make more sacrifices in the name of Baron Samedi
[09:13] <Cubi_> Hello world!
[09:13] <Cubi_> I have a question for Xubuntu
[09:13] <Cubi_> Can I have Open Office on Xubuntu ?
[09:13] <koegs> yes
[09:14] <Cubi_> Thanks
[09:14] <Cubi_> How to download ?
[09:15] <Cubi_> (sorry for my english)
[09:15] <koegs> Cubi_: just use the software center and install libre office
[09:15] <Cubi_> libre office = open office ?
[09:16] <koegs> basically, yes
[09:16] <Cubi_> Ok Thanks :D
[09:16] <deejayldn> sudo apt-get install libreoffice
[09:17] <deejayldn> it is basically the same as Open Office
[09:17] <deejayldn> You could always just use AbiWord that is already installed with Xubuntu for word processing though
[09:18] <deejayldn> if you need a spreadsheet program try gnumeric
[09:18] <Cubi_> I download on software center
[09:18] <deejayldn> sudo apt-get install gnumeric
[09:18] <deejayldn> yes, yoiu can get both from software centre
[09:19] <Cubi_> I install xubuntu yesterday
[09:19] <deejayldn> yoiu = you
[09:19] <deejayldn> great, it's an excellent OS
[09:20] <Cubi_> I use Xubuntu for my study
[09:21] <Cubi_> It's fast OS
[09:21] <deejayldn> nice, it is a very fast and stable operating system
[09:21] <Cubi_> yes :)
[09:22] <Cubi_> Thanks for Help :D
[09:22] <deejayldn> you're welcome
[09:23] <Cubi_> You speak French ?
[09:23] <deejayldn> not really, sorry
[09:23] <well_laid_lawn> there is a french channel
[09:23] <well_laid_lawn> !fr
[09:24] <Cubi_> thanks never use IRC before ^^
[09:24] <well_laid_lawn> you can reach the french channel ok Cubi_ ?
[09:25] <Cubi_> ok thanks I will go
[09:25] <deejayldn> have fun with Xubuntu!
[09:25] <well_laid_lawn> don't have to...
[09:25] <Cubi_> Thanks all !
[09:25] <well_laid_lawn> cheers
[10:38] <sealman> hai everybody ..
[10:38] <sealman> i wanna add arabic to my xubuntu. what can i do?
[10:44] <deejayldn> Arabic keyboard layout?
[10:45] <Malsasa> deejayldn: yes, he want to change easily into arabic layout.
[10:47] <deejayldn> Click the Xubuntu Logo in the top left
[10:47] <deejayldn> Settings manager
[10:47] <deejayldn> Keyboard
[10:47] <deejayldn> Layout
[10:47] <deejayldn> Click the Add button
[10:48] <deejayldn> and then select arabic from the list
[10:48] <deejayldn> does that work for you?
[10:50] <deejayldn> sealman / Malsasa does that work for changing your keyboard layout?
[10:51] <Malsasa> deejayldn: thank you, let my brother sealman try it :)
[10:52] <deejayldn> no problem, let me know if you need more help
[10:53] <Malsasa> deejayldn: wow, please keep this so kind support for further newbies like us... thank you...
 i dont find arabic to be marked, just russian and english..
[11:08] <Shark> is there some one  line ?
[11:08] <sealman> i
[11:09] <moetunes> Shark:  Hi what's up?
[11:09] <sealman> hi ... can you help me?
[11:09] <Shark> Nice,
[11:09] <Shark> yes, i think
[11:10] <sealman> ubuntu 12.04 and then i installed XFCE. in unity there is arabic but in XFCE i dont find it..
[11:10] <Shark> Man, how i change the rat icon, i'm thinking in replace it to a backtrack icon, ?
[11:10] <Shark> Restart it,
[11:11] <sealman> i dont understand...
[11:11] <Shark> what ?
[11:11] <sealman> restart it?
[11:12] <Shark> moetunes : how i can change the icon ? idon't like the rat icon
[11:12] <moetunes> sealman:  there was no choice for arabic in the keyboard layout settings?
[11:12] <sealman> moetunes: yeah...
[11:12] <moetunes> Shark:  which icon where?
[11:12] <Shark> there is,
[11:13] <Shark> the icon of the rat, in the task bar and again the icon of the rat that shows in the login
[11:13] <Shark> i wan't replace it, to the backtrack icon.
[11:14] <Shark> reinstalling it , moetuns
[11:14] <moetunes> Shark:  right click the ion in the taskbar - what's in the menu?
[11:15] <Shark> i'm mean, all the icon i don't like the mascot of xubuntu, i want replace it
[11:15] <Shark> all the icons, of the rat.
[11:16] <moetunes> you can edit the icon theme and chage it there
[11:16] <Shark> do you know some tutorial ?
[11:17] <Shark> Do you know backtrack icon, the dragon .
[11:17] <Shark> so, i want just replace the icon, and the theme when i login in my xubuntu. take out the rat's icon
[11:18] <knome> it's a mouse.
[11:18] <Shark> yeah, the mouse icon
[11:18] <Shark> i want replace put the backtrack icon
[11:19] <Shark> i don't like that mouse icon, the mascot of xubuntu, ii just want replace to a backtrack icon
[11:20] <Shark> Someone, know ?
[11:21] <knome> !patience | Shark
[11:23] <Shark> May you answer my questions ?
[11:23] <knome> Shark, did you read what i told ubottu to tell you?
[11:25] <Shark> :(
[12:02] <sealman> anyone there?
[14:30] <xubuntu036> hi there... i have the latest xubuntu installed on a mac mini. since the last update (new kernel included) i have no mouse and keyboard anymore! and there is no sshd enabled :( any idea what happened and how to solve this? thanks
[14:40] <ncmcxx> I have two internet connections on xubuntu how do I get access the second one ocassionally?
[14:40] <GridCube> xubuntu036, first you can start with an older kernel by choosing one on the grub stage
[14:41] <GridCube> ncmcxx, you have an icon of an antenna,or two arrows in the plugins indicator, click it to see your options
[14:41] <xubuntu036> gridcube, thanks! of course.... thats a good start :)
[14:41] <ncmcxx> yes ifconfig says both devices are connected to the internet
[14:42] <ncmcxx> netstat -r shows traffic going through one interface
[14:44] <GridCube> ncmcxx, there you can disable one or the other as you need them (though i've found that disabling one rants it useless till the reboot)
[14:44] <ncmcxx> i am trying to access both at same time
[14:45] <ncmcxx> so that other devices on network can access one or the other through this device
[14:45] <GridCube> mmhm
[14:45] <GridCube> each device should have its own ip then
[14:45] <xubuntu036> sadly, it did not help
[14:45] <GridCube> xubuntu036, older kernel didnt help?
[14:46] <xubuntu036> on boot prompt, keyboard is there
[14:46] <xubuntu036> no
[14:46] <ncmcxx> yes each device has its own ip...
[14:46] <xubuntu036> new udev package maybe?
[14:47] <GridCube> don't really know xubuntu036 :(
[14:47] <GridCube> sorry
[14:47] <Shark> hello
[14:48] <GridCube> !hi | Shark
[14:48] <xubuntu036> hm... at least i can access the FS from os x
[14:48] <Shark> someone knows how to change the mouse icon, i mean the mascot of xubuntu i want replace it to backtrack icons
[14:49] <GridCube> xubuntu036, may this help you? http://askubuntu.com/questions/127410/upgrading-to-ubuntu-12-04-loses-keyboard-and-mouse
[14:50] <GridCube> right clic on it, go to its settings, change icon
[14:51] <GridCube> ncmcxx, sorry i dont understand your problem
[14:51] <Shark> and how i change the icon thats shows when i turn on my computer
[14:51] <xubuntu036> the problem is i have no ssh on this machine... no access at all. maybe i try rescue mode
[14:51] <Shark> it shows the mouse icons too
[14:52] <GridCube> xubuntu036, if you can access the fs from osx, you dont need ssh
[14:52] <Shark> can i switch put just the theme of backtrack ou other theme, when starting
[14:52] <Shark> is it possible
[14:52] <ncmcxx> on xubuntu, I have two interfaces and two internet connections two ipaddress netstat -r shows traffic routed through eth0 is it possible to attach a proxy to wlan0 and make that internet connection available over the network?
[14:53] <xubuntu036> but i can not change packages from os x
[14:53] <xubuntu036> just edit files...
[14:53] <xubuntu036> maybe i can enable sshd and then reboot?
[14:55] <GridCube> xubuntu036, have you tried booting into recovery mode?
[14:56] <GridCube> ncmcxx, https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:qzCFkmvojFMJ:ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php%3Ft%3D1373049+&cd=1&hl=es&ct=clnk&client=ubuntu
[14:56] <GridCube> sorry for the link the forums are down
[14:57] <ncmcxx> its ok i noticed the forums were down too
[14:57] <GridCube> Shark, once you choose a theme it stays like that
[14:57] <ncmcxx> ty, will read hope it helps
[14:58] <GridCube> Shark, if you want to change the lightdm theme you need to find one that suits you, i dont know how to edit them to change the icos
[14:58] <Shark> :(
[14:58] <Shark> can you send to me some link of some tutorial ?
[14:59] <GridCube> there are none
[14:59] <GridCube> lightdm its a mistery, wrapped on an enigma, hided in xml and javascript code
[15:00] <xubuntu036> i booted into rescue mode. there i selected fix broken packages (i guess there went something wrong wihth dbus/udev whatever) this didnt work because network was enabled. i choose enable network - now it hangs wiht the message "loaded 20 plugins" :(
[15:01] <GridCube> xubuntu036, did you first logged as root?
[15:01] <GridCube> Shark, you can look at this http://www.mattfischer.com/blog/?p=5
[15:02] <Shark> thanks
[15:02] <ncmcxx> thanks gridcube, looks like i have another day of reading to do :/
[15:02] <xubuntu036> i dont understand... rescue menu runs as root i guess?
[15:02] <ncmcxx> take care all
[15:03] <GridCube> ncmcxx, thats the life of a sysadmin
[15:03] <GridCube> nope
[15:03] <GridCube> xubuntu036, believe it or not, you need to mount first
[15:03] <GridCube> i have no idea why that is like that
[15:04] <xubuntu036> fs was mounted r/w
[15:04] <Shark> do you have some idea, how change it in login, some video please
[15:05] <Shark_> Some one,
[15:05] <Shark_> help me
[15:05] <GridCube> !patience
[15:05] <GridCube> Shark, i already gave you an answer
[15:06] <Shark_> please, send to me a video
[15:06] <One-Man-Bucket> hi
[15:06] <Shark_> i am new using xubuntu
[15:06] <Shark_> i just want replace the icon, and the icon of the mouse when i started my xubuntu
[15:06] <One-Man-Bucket> i have a problem with nvidia drivers and latest xubuntu, the window manager starts up fine, but there is a small overlay in the top left corner of my left screen that shows the blinking cursor from the text mode console
[15:08] <GridCube> Shark_, thats not easy to do, there is no video
[15:08] <Shark_> :(
[15:08] <Shark_> Is possible to me find some one that can do it ?
[15:09] <GridCube> if you find a theme for lightdm you like, you can easily choose it to use it, if you dont then you will have to learn to modify the theme to your likings, http://www.mattfischer.com/blog/?p=5
[15:09] <GridCube> no one will do one just for you
[15:09] <Shark_> you know a tuto more easy ?
[15:09] <GridCube> thats pretty easy
[15:10] <Shark_> not to me,
[15:10] <GridCube> in fact thats the first time i see it explained so simply
[15:10] <Shark_> something done, more easy ?
[15:10] <xubuntu036> SOLVED! it was a corrupted udev rule file.. there was a message in the boot.log. thanks gridcube, for your help!
[15:10] <GridCube> :3 w00t!
[15:10] <GridCube> :D
[15:10] <xubuntu036> hehe :)
[15:10] <xubuntu036> bye. have a nice day!
[15:11] <GridCube> you to
[15:25] <lolcat> Hello
[15:25] <lolcat> Can I make focus on mouseover in xfce?
[15:30] <GridCube> yes
[15:35] <lolcat> GridCube: How?
[15:37] <GridCube> go to the settings manager, find the windows manager settings, go to the focus tab, choose "focus follos the mouse"
[16:22] <zAo^> Hello all. Is there a working global menu plugin?
[16:24] <baizon> zAo^: no
[16:24] <zAo^> thanks baizon
[16:24] <baizon> zAo^: https://launchpad.net/xfce4-appmenu-plugin
[16:25] <baizon> but i dont think it works
[16:26] <zAo^> 2011 last updated.. hmm. Thanks!
[16:46] <Shark_> Hello, everybody
[16:46] <baizon> hi Shark_
[16:46] <Shark_> Hi,
[16:47] <Shark_> Nice to meet you
[16:49] <baizon> nice to meet youuuu... and hes gone
[16:53] <xubuntu965> hey guys , someone uses the tp-link wn722n  wireless adapter  ??
[17:54] <xubuntu006> c'è qualcuno che parla italiano?
[17:54] <holstein> !it
[17:55] <xubuntu006> ok sorry!
[17:55] <GridCube> :D
[17:55] <baizon> np
[17:55] <xubuntu006> #ubunto-it
[17:56] <holstein> xubuntu006: /join #ubuntu-it should work
[17:56] <GridCube> /j #ubuntu-it
[18:10] <xubuntu826> hello
[18:10] <baizon> hi xubuntu826
[18:11] <xubuntu826> is xubuntu installation cd a live cd also?
[18:11] <xubuntu826> and does it has gparted?
[18:12] <baizon> xubuntu826: yes and no
[18:12] <xubuntu826> what you mean?
[18:12] <koegs> gparted is on the live cd, iirc
[18:12] <baizon> is it?
[18:12] <zorgborg> koegs: i intended to use gparted on it last week and couldnt find gparted at all
[18:12] <xubuntu826> koes on xubunto.org there is only one image for 32 bit. Is it a live cd also?
[18:13] <zAo^> just install it through apt?
[18:13] <baizon> xubuntu826: like i said, installation cd equals live cd
[18:13] <xubuntu826> ok, ty
[18:13] <baizon> and i dont think there is gparted on the livecd
[18:13] <baizon> but you can install it
[18:14] <xubuntu826> baizon: there is not a linux system installed on that pc yet
[18:14] <xubuntu826> i need it to partition the disk before installing any os
[18:14] <baizon> xubuntu826: you can install a program on the livecd
[18:14] <zAo^> Thats OK, you can install software during the live session
[18:14] <xubuntu826> ah ok
[18:14] <xubuntu826> ty
[18:15] <zAo^> np
[18:15] <baizon> xubuntu826: the installation process contains a partitioning tool
[18:15] <zorgborg> xubuntu826: the installation cd will partition it for you when you install xubuntu alongside it
[18:15] <zAo^> And I guess thats just Gparted2 ;)
[18:15] <baizon> xubuntu826: so you dont need gparted, while installing a nice partitioning tool will appear :)
[18:17] <xubuntu826> ok but i need to install windows first so i should begin ubuntu installation process, then stop it after the disk partitioning and then install windows. It should work... i thing
[18:17] <xubuntu826> or i just run the live cd, install gparted ad use that
[18:18] <zAo^> Why not install Windows (and use its installer to create a small partition and install Linux later?
[18:18] <zAo^> On the other part of the disk
[18:19] <xubuntu826> because that is an old laptop wich has a recovery partition or something like that and i would like to clean everything
[18:19] <zAo^> ah: start the xubuntu installer first then ;)
[18:19] <zAo^> of just use cfdisk...
[18:19] <zAo^> pretty easy
[18:19] <xubuntu826> good idea, cfdisk :)
[18:21] <koegs> baizon: i am pretty sure about gparted on the live-cd :)
[18:21] <xubuntu826> i will look for that too
[18:25] <David-A> xubuntu826, baizon: yes, gparted is already installed when running the live cd (xubuntu 12.04 and many other).
[18:35] <baizon> ok, if you say so. I thought is was removed due needed space
[18:39] <zorgborg> David-A: ive got the liveCD running on my netbook, gparted is not in the application menu, you can go to main menu settings and select it to be visible, but this doesn't actually work, typing it into application finder does zilch, only works from command line
[18:41] <David-A> I ran "Try Xubuntu" with xubuntu-12.04.1-desktop-i386.iso in a virtual machine, I saw gparted in the system submenu.
[18:41] <Cheri703> couldn't you just install it if it isn't showing up? it doesn't really matter if it's installed by default...
[18:43] <David-A> Cheri703: yes you can install it. (requires internet of course, and not too little available ram)
[18:43] <Cheri703> zorgborg: might try alt f2 and type gparted?
[18:45] <zorgborg> Cheri703: yup that works, only with sudo though
[18:45] <Cheri703> it would, you have to authenticate to run gparted even if you click from the launcher
[18:46] <zorgborg> Cheri703: i forgot that, got used to parted magic livecd recently, makes one forget :)
[18:47] <Cheri703> :)
[18:49] <David-A> zorgborg: strange, here application finder finds gparted, and it starts when i select it. also, in previsous versions of ubuntu and xubuntu, gparted has always been on the live cd when I have needed it.
[18:59] <zorgborg> David-A: is there anything i could be doing wrong? im typing in gparted into applicatino finder, it does nothing so i press enter, nothing, change main menu settings so that it should be visible there, doesnt make it visible. pretty odd :/
[19:03] <David-A> zorgborg: I'm running xubuntu-12.04.1-desktop-i386.iso in a virt.machine. I cannot believe virt or not would matter. Can 32 or 64 bit matter, what packages are on the live cd?
[19:05] <manicmac> How can I get a fresh sources.list and gpg keys?
[19:06] <David-A> zorgborg: (theoritizing, that 64 bit packages may be a little bigger, so they may have to prioritize harder?) (just a theory, I could have googled for facts)
[19:06] <manicmac> I am on 12.10 64bit   fyi
[19:09] <manicmac> k then.
[19:10] <David-A> manicmac: come back! there is a "restore" button in system>softwaresources>authentication
[19:16] <zorgborg> David-A: ive tried it thoroughly just now with the 32-bit version, and in the 64-bit i couldnt find gparted in the menu so i presume same issue
[19:22] <eduardo> Hello!
[19:22] <eduardo> Good Afternoon!
[19:24] <eduardo> I'm learning English! I'm from Brazil.
[19:29] <zorgborg> hey eduardo what's your question?
[21:13] <srbin> hey guys
[21:13] <srbin> i have a wustion
[21:14] <srbin> where does xubuntu 12.04 save my files transferred via bluetooth?
[21:14] <holstein> srbin: i would assume just in ~/ somewhere
[21:15] <srbin> what does  mean
[21:15] <srbin> is that the home folde?
[21:16] <holstein> srbin: why not just search by filename?
[21:16] <srbin> how do i search? catfish is reporting a crash
[21:16] <srbin> ?
[21:17] <David-A> srbin: what search method in catfish crashed?
[21:18] <David-A> srbin: you can search with "find" in a terminal, example:  find -iname "madonna.mp3"
[21:18] <baizon> srbin: locate for example
[21:20] <srbin> thanks david!!!!!
[21:20] <srbin> :D
[21:20] <srbin> made it work
[21:20] <srbin> !
[21:32] <xubuntu766> hello,
[21:32] <xubuntu766> I'm a complete newbie to linux
[21:33] <xubuntu766> I downloaded ubuntu 12.10 and tried the trial...I found it to be terribly slow so I tried to download xubuntu
[21:34] <xubuntu766> when trying to download xubuntu it fails everytime
[21:34] <Unit193> How so?
[21:34] <Unit193> Are you on Windows or linux?   Do you have a bittorrent client you can use?
[21:35] <xubuntu766> while it's downloading near the end, I get "echoué"
[21:35] <xubuntu766> I'm using windows and live in France
[21:36] <holstein> xubuntu766: and bittorrent is available?
[21:37] <xubuntu766> hello?
[21:37] <Unit193> So I take it you tried one from ftp://ftp.free.fr/mirrors/ftp.xubuntu.com/releases/12.10/release/ ?
[21:37] <knome> !patience | xubuntu766
[21:37] <xubuntu766> I'm not sure
[21:37] <holstein> xubuntu766: yes.. can you use bittorrent?
[21:38] <xubuntu766> don't really know how to use bittorrent
[21:38] <xubuntu766> i downloaded utorrent
[21:39] <holstein> xubuntu766: bittorrent is a alternate method of downloading that might help you get a clean download
[21:39] <xubuntu766> How would I go about using bittorrent please?
[21:41] <holstein> xubuntu766: http://www.tecmint.com/xubuntu-12-10-desktop-quantal-quetzal-linux-installation-guide/
[22:23] <xubuntu051> hello
[22:24] <xubuntu051> xubuntu 12.10 support the trim?
[22:24] <David-A> BillyZane: I have bought home lime *and* lemon, in 2 minutes the tea is ready, what do you suggest I try first?
[22:45] <Pupeno> Hey… what's the proper UI way of changing the password of the current user?
[22:51] <David-A> Pupeno: System>Users and groups by Password click Change