[00:00] yofel: my local daemon uses 4mib [00:00] ... [00:00] mumble allocated 247m of VIRT mem, and OpenVZ is retarded [00:00] fun [00:00] anywho afk [00:00] * Darkwing kicks mumble [00:01] EC2!! [00:01] Darkwing: when you connect, contextmenu yourself and register [00:01] shadeslayer: make it happen [00:01] I reckon we can simply bundle up the sqlite db and deploy it anywhere :P [00:01] do you have to register everytime? [00:01] erm [00:01] s/everytime// [00:01] shadeslayer: You did something wrong... Try s/you/me/ or tell me "help sed" [00:02] BBIAB [00:03] * shadeslayer installs mumble-server to try it out [00:03] shadeslayer: once [00:03] oic [00:04] ACLs require registration [00:04] a regular visitor would not need to register [00:04] now really afk :P [00:04] I think it should be simple enough if we can make a db and then store it in a location where mumble can pick it up [00:06] meh, need to restart this thing again (to see if ulimit -v has an effect on it) [00:07] apachelogger: http://jujucharms.com/charms/precise/mumble-server [00:07] juju it [00:09] apachelogger: this is the target branch for tomahawk lp:~blue-shell/tomahawk/tomahawk-ubuntu ? [00:11] nah kubuntu needs a nu branch [00:11] which would be branched from that one I reckon [00:11] yofel: how does access the django interface? [00:11] don't need it [00:11] you don't right now. before wsgi was running out of memory [00:12] apachelogger: so what will the target branch for my merge request? [00:12] oh k [00:12] now it seems like I managed to cage it into ~90M [00:13] I don't see documentation which will allow 2 mumble servers to talk to each other :( [00:14] what for? [00:14] well, we can setup 2 servers 2 distribute load [00:14] murthy: dunno [00:14] just create one somewhere [00:14] we'll branch that one then [00:14] shadeslayer: it creates virtually 0 load [00:14] shadeslayer: taht won't work [00:15] except bandwidth [00:15] yofel: network wise? [00:15] and you can't balance that [00:15] yeah, that's what I meant by 'load' :P [00:15] I see [00:15] apachelogger: ok [00:15] also, latency is going to be batshit crazy for me :P [00:15] if we use the buyvm servers [00:16] it's a test for now, we can shift to something more professional once we know it works [00:16] yeah [00:16] just run it inside something that's not managed by OpenVZ [00:17] heh [00:19] apachelogger: the homepage url in debian/control is empty for tomahawk , shall i leave it empty or shall i update it with http://www.tomahawk-player.org/ ? [00:21] please update it [00:21] ok [00:23] totally found my headphones [00:23] yofel: did you do audio testing? [00:23] darkwing just said something which was understandable [00:24] shadeslayer: the actual mumble client is also not too reliable for me :P [00:24] I just set the bandwidth limit above client max. on the server - will need a murmurd restart though [00:24] gets all confused when switching around in the audio wiz ^^ [00:24] :S [00:24] yofel: feel free to restart [00:25] so I think mumble's the awesome [00:26] uh [00:26] segfault in pulse [00:26] oh my [00:27] dude [00:27] jabber conferences? [00:28] isn't that texty? [00:28] but iirc it also supports calls no? [00:28] http://telepathy.freedesktop.org/wiki/Muji [00:28] do we have a working jabber client? [00:28] dpkg: error processing mumble-django (--purge): [00:28] subprocess installed post-removal script returned error exit status 128 [00:28] lawl [00:28] yeah :P [00:28] shadeslayer: and that scales? [00:29] idk [00:29] that's p2p [00:29] they have a sample client here : http://telepathy.freedesktop.org/wiki/MujiDemoClient [00:29] sounds like it aint scaling :P [00:29] try eet [00:30] is that a spaceship? [00:32] yofel: u there? [00:32] yes [00:32] u no hear me? [00:33] * apachelogger now listening to TV with yofel :D [00:34] shadeslayer: come join the fun [00:34] Don't have no headphones [00:34] people sleeping [00:34] maybe tomorrow [00:34] also pretty neato... when you move into AFK it automutes [00:34] <- master with the ACL [00:34] oh and android cloning [00:35] apachelogger: ACL? [00:35] kubotu: wp acl [00:35] Results for acl: 1. Anterior cruciate ligament - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anterior_cruciate_ligament | 2. Access control list - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Access_control_list | 3. ACL - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ACL [00:35] [1] The anterior cruciate ligament (ACL) is a cruciate ligament which is one of the four major ligaments of the human knee. In the quadruped stifle (analogous to the knee), based on its anatomical position, it is also referred to as the cranial cruciate ligament.[1] [00:35] number two [00:35] I see [00:36] kubotu: wp acl 2 [00:36] no results found for 2 [00:36] heh [00:36] that works somehow [00:36] help wikipedia [00:36] ~help wikipedia [00:36] no help for topic wikipedia [00:36] pff [00:36] :P [00:36] ~help wp [00:36] search (or: google ) => search google for | ddg to search DuckDuckGo | wp => search for on Wikipedia | wa => search for on WolframAlpha | unpedia => search for on Uncyclopedia [00:36] or maybe not [00:36] not [00:37] amarok is not social enough [00:37] can't listen along with people [00:37] saving me the trouble of having to find sensible music :P [00:37] yofel: is this setup on the openvz server? [00:38] oh wait [00:38] tomorrow I have no computer [00:38] shadeslayer: yeah, and I'm still fighting memory [00:38] heh [00:38] might move it later if I don't find a solution for this [00:38] I can give you a EC2 instance to work on [00:38] need to figure out how to launch one in Europe though [00:39] lol, wp supports language but no result selection [00:39] kubotu: wp de autobahn [00:39] Results for autobahn: 1. Autobahn Wikipedia: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autobahn | 2. Autobahn NingboJinhua Wikipedia: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autobahn_Ningbo%E2%80%93Jinhua | 3. Autobahn WenzhouLishui Wikipedia: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autobahn_Wenzhou%E2%80%93Lishui [00:39] [1] Eine Autobahn ist eine Fernverkehrsstraße, die ausschließlich dem Schnellverkehr und dem Güterfernverkehr mit Kraftfahrzeugen dient. Sie besteht im Normalfall aus zwei Richtungsfahrbahnen mit jeweils mehreren Fahrstreifen. Deutsche Autobahnen sind seit längerem mit mindestens zwei Fahrstreifen pro Richtungsfahrbahn versehen. In der Regel ist auch ein zusätzlicher Seitenstreifen (auch Standstreifen oder Pa... [00:39] heh [00:40] kubotu: wp cohesion [00:40] Results for cohesion: 1. Cohesion (chemistry) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cohesion_(chemistry) | 2. Cohesion - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cohesion | 3. Cohesion (computer science) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cohesion_(computer_science) [00:40] [1] Cohesion (n. lat. cohaerere "stick or stay together") or Cohesive attraction or Cohesive force is the action or property of molecules sticking together, being mutually attractive. This is an intrinsic property of a substance that is caused by the shape and structure of its molecules which makes the distribution of orbiting electrons irregular when molecules get close to one another, creating electrical at... [00:40] murthy: do you have a branchy yet? [00:40] and suddenly the lurkers become active :D [00:40] we should do more flood ^^ [00:40] * bkerensa runs and hides [00:40] ok [00:40] ulimit -mv 64000 and it seems to behave itself [00:41] spooky [00:41] wonder if that holds up when 30 people connect [00:41] ^ [00:41] RES is like 9M, just virt goes up like crazy by default [00:42] they have decent docs, perhaps they know why [00:43] ulimit -mv 128000 now. That should work I guess [00:43] :S [00:54] apachelogger: new branch for tomahawk with updated debian/copyright lp:~murthy/tomahawk/tomahawk-ubuntu [00:58] yofel: i cannot package a new version after 13.04 feature freeze? [00:58] https://trello.com/c/Fwq6SVzX in case someone wants to handle that [00:59] murthy: you can, but you'll need to go with http://assets.minecraft.net/13w09a/minecraft.jar [00:59] erm............ [00:59] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreezeExceptionProcess [00:59] ha ha ha [01:00] yofel: so normally we can't right? [01:01] yofel clearly si about to minecraft away [01:01] when's future freeze? [01:01] <- too lazy to check [01:02] next thursday [01:02] 6 mar [01:03] that's wed [01:03] 7th https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaringRingtail/ReleaseSchedule [01:03] sorry 7 march [01:04] i am clouded by my own deadline [01:05] apachelogger: ok with the new branch and changes? [01:06] yofel: ping [01:06] yofel: how do I check if mumble was setup correctly [01:06] if you're connected and your audio setup works you're fine [01:06] or do you mean the server? [01:07] yofel: lazr.delegates, mpich, node-oauth, telepathy-ring, texi2html. Do you want any of these latest versions of packages to be in 13.04 [01:07] the server [01:08] if you did all the setup steps and can connect to it, it should work [01:08] set superuser password with 'murmurd -supw ' [01:09] then you can do the setup from the client [01:11] murthy: havent looked at it [01:11] it's on the todo [01:11] apachelogger: ok [01:12] :/ [01:12] when is the online uds ? [01:13] it just hangs at the connect dialog [01:14] ScottK: I am not sure that there would be sizable testing exposure difference between landing pre releases in a PPA (as to not put into rolling) and having them in a pre-release of our own product [01:14] either way the user is opting to get pre-release software [01:16] if anything adding a beta ppa to rolling would be more encouraging as it's easier [01:17] also to repeat myself... that is essentially what gentoo has [01:17] yofel: and how does one add a user? [01:18] they need to register [01:18] right click user -> register [01:18] i.e. the username is then tied to a uuid [01:18] without the uuid you could not really do stuff [01:18] right click where? [01:18] the user [01:19] dude [01:19] it asks for a username [01:19] what do you want to add a user for? [01:19] when adding a new server [01:19] what where? [01:19] wtf? [01:19] shadeslayer: just set one? [01:19] just pick any [01:19] oh, doesn't matter? [01:19] it's really a nickname [01:19] I see [01:19] something is rong then [01:19] *wrong [01:19] only upon registering with the server does it become a username [01:20] eh, what's this review request on im-config [01:20] renamed binary I think [01:20] bug 1076975 [01:20] bug 1076975 in language-selector (Ubuntu) "Please port input method function to use im-config" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1076975 [01:21] ah [01:21] so I'm just sleepy [01:21] yeah [01:21] well [01:21] right now we have no UI ties anyway [01:21] so whatever :P [01:21] 6:50 AM] Connecting to server ec2-54-235-6-45.compute-1.amazonaws.com. [01:21] [6:51 AM] Server connection failed: Connection timed out. [01:24] u doing it wrong it appears :P [01:26] nmap says only ssh is open [01:27] is murmurd even running? [01:27] yep [01:27] 107 7022 0.0 0.5 356004 9368 ? Sl 01:10 0:00 /usr/sbin/murmurd -ini /etc/mumble-server.ini [01:30] eh [01:30] 2013-03-01 01:30:30.205 SQL Error [INSERT INTO `channels` (`server_id`, `channel_id`, `parent_id`, `name`) VALUES (?, ?, ?, ?)]: unable to open database file Unable to fetch row [01:33] lol [01:34] shadeslayer is a leet haxx0r [01:34] shadeslayer: did you even dpkg-config it? [01:34] I think that creates the db [01:35] hmm, nope, I assumed the charm set that up :/ [01:35] ah you are using charm [01:35] dunno then :P [01:35] yus === murthy is now known as murthy_\ === murthy_\ is now known as murthy_ [01:36] is there another mumble server with ppl talking? :P [01:37] no, shadeslayer doesn't know how to use juju [01:37] also I should go to bed [01:37] ahhh [01:37] but somehow I ended up having 300000000000000000000000 windows open [01:37] Yeah. It's getting late there. [01:38] and as many tasks I started [01:38] I need to nominate myself on the lists. [01:38] nominate for what? [01:38] council [01:39] shadeslayer: plz be nominating Darkwing :P [01:39] it's very classy to be proxy-nominated [01:39] is that even a word [01:39] lol I was going to do it myself but if someone wants to do it for me I'm not going to complain. It might look like someone likes me though. [01:39] let's go with posh, posh is a good word [01:39] I like posh. I'm from the US and I like Posh [01:40] ur weird [01:40] :P [01:40] Come on apachelogger... You know that I'm not a normal USA person. [01:41] do I know normal ones? [01:41] * Darkwing snickers [01:42] Oo [01:42] lol [01:42] mmmm snickers [01:42] I started today by trying to work on phonon [01:42] I broke the build, then I got interrupted [01:42] * apachelogger needs to turn off notifications or something [01:43] shadeslayer: oh by ze ways [01:43] did you test master-p4q5? [01:43] nope [01:43] go test master-p4q5 plz [01:44] bleh [01:44] like [01:44] Can I nomintate Darkwing? [01:44] apachelogger: will have no computer for the next 2 days [01:44] that goes into master than I rip out shite then we branch again, then we release [01:44] Quintasan: I'd very much appreciate that [01:44] I feel loved [01:44] Can I nominate logger? [01:44] Quintasan: I'd offer alcohols at UDS but there is no UDS anymore pluz you'd not get no drinkery in the US of A [01:44] also no nominating the logger [01:45] someone nominate the slayer so I can overthrow the logger [01:45] >pluz you'd not get no drinkery in the US of A [01:45] lol yeah sure [01:45] shadeslayer didn't [01:45] and shadeslayer's like old [01:45] yeah ^ [01:45] yeah :( [01:45] Quintasan: they asked for my id [01:46] I did have a drink in the US of A though [01:46] after my 21st birthday :P [01:46] meanwhile I got a drink with my fake id [01:46] ... [01:46] 21 for drinks is just dumb. [01:46] rofl [01:46] Darkwing: it's 25 in Delhi/NCR [01:46] i.e. where I live [01:46] dumb. [01:46] and here I thought I would get in moral trouble if I said Riddell got me one [01:46] but no one cares [01:46] actually [01:46] Darkwing: you'd think so [01:47] some of them do [01:47] but most of them don't [01:47] Darkwing: report logger for faking ids :P [01:47] ^ [01:47] HAHAHHAHAHAHA [01:47] but with today's kids I am not so sure about that [01:47] I had a few fake IDs in my day [01:47] anyway [01:47] Not that I need them at 30 anymore. [01:47] apachelogger: cannot test, disk is failing, must get it replaced today [01:47] Darkwing: I bet you still keep them around :P [01:47] 180 bad sectors [01:48] i.e. in austria and germany it has become common practise to drink until you pass out [01:48] Quintasan: only to make myself younger [01:48] ... amongst the youngsters [01:48] Darkwing: That's what I assumed [01:48] exhausted my limit of reallocation of bad sectors [01:48] Quintasan: 30 isn't old [01:48] Quintasan: all the cool kids have fake ids in the US of A [01:48] Did I say that at any point? [01:48] apachelogger: implying I actually care about that :P [01:49] apachelogger: Not just the kids... fake IDs are popular for wonment in their 40s trying to be in their 30s still [01:49] Quintasan: u not cool enough [01:49] apachelogger: wow [01:49] that's even better [01:49] implying I care [01:49] :D [01:49] Darkwing: that actually seems even more useful ^^ [01:49] apachelogger: it makes them feel better about themselves [01:50] It's not like your mind knows how old are you, is it? [01:50] :O [01:50] actually [01:50] you'd be surprise how easy it is to forget one's age [01:50] i.e. I dunno mine [01:50] somwhere >10 <30 [01:50] * yofel thought it's the minds purpose to convince you of something far from reality [01:50] Does forgetting about one's brithday count as well? [01:50] happens [01:51] not quite the same thing [01:51] * apachelogger forgot his birthday last year [01:51] was all like waaaah [01:51] Well, last year I woke up, my sisters wished me happy birthday and I was like WTF [01:51] hm, that doesn't *change* though [01:51] It's not my bday yet is i...oh shit. [01:52] yofel: he meant forgetting that it is your birthday [01:52] not the date [01:52] although I also often have trouble remembering that [01:52] oh [01:52] takes me a couple of seconds usually ^^ [01:52] well, you usually notice it if something's different from the other 364 days of the year [01:53] Do I nominate Darkwings on ml or this new stuff we are using? [01:53] ML [01:53] read the ML [01:53] ml [01:53] yeah [01:53] read the ml [01:53] >read [01:53] you mean ctrl+a ctrl+r? [01:53] * Quintasan hides [01:53] though I can make you a trello card to nominate Darkwing [01:53] also one to read the ml [01:53] maybe it helps [01:54] if you think I'm not going to mark the latter as done after doing ctrl+a ctrl+r then I have bad news for you [01:55] Quintasan: if you do that we'll force you to read that nice thread on ubuntu-devel from today [01:55] nice thread? [01:55] eh [01:55] thread*S* [01:55] sorry, I usually avoid spam lists yofel :P [01:55] one was not enough [01:55] we had to have 5 [01:55] :@ [01:56] and I actually read 'em [01:56] I so can [01:56] I so can't see you doing that [01:56] and it was like canonical employee: yay; kubuntu contributor: fuuuuu; others: meh; [01:56] Quintasan: well, I'll let you off easy if you nominate me :P [01:56] What are we talking about? [01:57] * apachelogger nominates Quintasan [01:57] * yofel agrees with apachelogger [01:57] LOL [01:57] OKAY [01:57] DO IT [01:57] ACTUALLTLY [01:57] no [01:57] DO IT [01:57] I DARE YOU [01:57] Quintasan is a worse uni slacker than shadeslayer was [01:57] Darkwing: ^^ [01:57] DOOOOOO EEEEEEEEEEEEET [01:58] sigh [01:58] gmail ate that email as well [01:58] look who is here :D [01:59] it will be all like "yo, Quintasan we need you to approve JR travelling to france to get us a support company" - "notime, gotta do exams, no travels for JR" [01:59] s/JR/apachelogger and only then the statement will be accurate [01:59] :P [02:00] then JR will be all sad and cry and I'll have to coup Quintasan and the council out of office, establish a beloved dictatorship and stuff [02:00] being dictator is hard work, so I'd rather avoid that [02:00] Like hell that will happen! [02:00] * Quintasan banhammmers apachelogger [02:00] hm [02:01] watch my powa :P [02:01] holy [02:01] . . . [02:01] lawl [02:01] like hell I'd allow [02:01]