| draik | I'm trying to compile purple-otr, but I keep getting an error for libotr not being 3.2.0 or greater (which it is), and another issue with the config being for "x86_64-pc-linux-gnu", and doesn't match "x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu". Pastebin for the ./configure and output/errors can be found here => http://paste.ubuntu.com/5575026/ | 00:27 |
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| ScottyK | Is KDE 4.10 going to be available for 12.10 other than the backports? | 02:28 |
| shadeslayer | ScottyK: you mean in the archive? | 03:37 |
| shadeslayer | nope | 03:37 |
| ScottyK | so the only way to get 4.10 for 12.10 is to use the backports, correct? | 03:38 |
| shadeslayer | the backports PPA, correct | 03:38 |
| ScottyK | ok, thanks shadeslayer! | 03:38 |
| shadeslayer | ScottyK: note that there's a ubuntu-backports component as well | 03:39 |
| shadeslayer | so when refering to the PPA it's always good to append PPA there :P | 03:39 |
| ScottyK | true! I've got 12.10 right now, one computer I already activated the backport, but the computer I had not. Was curious if it was going to be pushed down before 13.04 came out. | 03:43 |
| SimonJ57 | Evening. | 03:45 |
| SimonJ57 | If I have an application segfaulting using Kubuntu in a VM, would running Kubuntu bare-metal in someway help? | 03:55 |
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| dishantp | BluesKaj, do i need to change the operating system itself, if the broken dependencies aren't fixed? | 06:41 |
| dishantp | Shadeslayer, can you take out some time and help me fix my system? | 07:34 |
| dishantp | hi people, i am running kde sc 4.10 on my ubuntu machine and i want to do development work with Amarok. However due to broken dependencies, it shows there is no kdelibs5 candidate installed. I just want to know that, would it effect the development work? | 07:34 |
| dishantp | by it, i mean,i just checked on terminal. | 07:34 |
| dishantp | The problem is mainly with kubuntu-ppa's i added and did a distribution upgrade. Now there is unmet depencendies, and there seems no way out, like a deadlock | 07:35 |
| sithlord48 | dishantp: you can ppa-purge the ppa and try again possibly | 07:39 |
| avihay | Hi, I have an error configuring telepathy from git: | 07:42 |
| dishantp | sithlord48, thank you very much. hope this works,looking into it. | 07:42 |
| avihay | CMake Error at /usr/share/cmake-2.8/Modules/FindPackageHandleStandardArgs.cmake:97 (MESSAGE):\n Could NOT find TELEPATHY_QT4 (missing: TELEPATHY_QT4_INCLUDE_DIR) | 07:42 |
| sithlord48 | i have never had luck building stuff w/ cmake | 07:43 |
| Smurphy | avihay: telepathy is a nightmare. The dependencies are not right, and I manage from time to time to make it work... | 07:43 |
| avihay | I tried installing nearly all telepathy dev packages I could think of. anyone knows? yofel, I have a feeling you know the answer | 07:43 |
| Smurphy | But it aint easy. | 07:43 |
| avihay | :-< | 07:44 |
| dishantp | sithlord48, unmet dependencies here too. can't even install ppa-purge | 07:48 |
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| dishantp | It says : The following packages have unmet dependencies: | 07:48 |
| dishantp | kdepimlibs-kio-plugins : Depends: libkimap4 (= 4:4.8.5-0ubuntu0.1~ppa2) but 4:4.10.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu12.04.2~ppa1 is to be installed | 07:48 |
| sithlord48 | you should be safe to remove that package. if you can remove it w/o breaking your system you can finish your upgrade and then reinstall the newer version (if there is one) | 07:50 |
| dishantp | sithlord48, won't even remove. libkimap4 and kdepimlibs5-dev are interdependent. okay,a fresh install seems the way togo. | 07:53 |
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| avihay | dishantp: you can force dpkg to install and remove packages | 08:04 |
| dishantp | avihay : ok,let me see. | 08:06 |
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| n8w | hey guys do u know any graphic editor that automaticaly refresh the content on a change? | 10:35 |
| n8w | im currently usin gwenview, but everytime i the content changes i need to press f5 | 10:36 |
| ovidiu-florin | hello world :D | 11:27 |
| ovidiu-florin | I've finally succeded to set up my znc server, now I don't have to miss up on conversations while I'm gone :D | 12:16 |
| Fuzzles | are kubuntu backports e.g. kde 4.10 stable to use? | 12:24 |
| Tm_T | Fuzzles: if they're stable releases of KDE SC then yes they should be | 12:25 |
| Fuzzles | Tm_T: KDE SC? | 12:27 |
| lordievader | Good afternoon | 12:29 |
| Fuzzles | afternoon | 12:29 |
| Fuzzles | does the backports only hold kde sc or test ones aswell? | 12:32 |
| yofel | Fuzzles: only the stable ones | 12:38 |
| Fuzzles | yofel: ok thanks trying 4.10 any min now | 12:39 |
| avihay | well, I gave up on telepathy, and started to build kdevelop and I have a problem. | 12:42 |
| avihay | kdevelopplatform builds fine, but kdevelop needs kdevelopplatform, and it doesn't use the newly built one | 12:43 |
| avihay | umm, and now it does build | 12:48 |
| Fuzzles | what is kdevelop? | 12:50 |
| avihay | It's an IDE (Integrated Development Environment) | 12:51 |
| tsimpson | !info kdevelop | Fuzzles | 12:51 |
| ubottu | Fuzzles: kdevelop (source: kdevelop): integrated development environment for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:4.4.1-0ubuntu0.1 (quantal), package size 1218 kB, installed size 4839 kB | 12:51 |
| Fuzzles | oh ok thanks | 12:51 |
| avihay | ok, I think I got why telepathy didn't work | 12:51 |
| Fuzzles | rb | 12:52 |
| Fuzzles | brb | 12:52 |
| avihay | kdesrc needs sudo to install, but the script isn't interactive, so it fails instead of asking for a password | 12:52 |
| avihay | woho, it built | 13:15 |
| avihay | wel, telepathy still doesn't build :-< | 13:35 |
| BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 13:47 |
| Feldegast | hi i think i have come across a security issue in the lock screen | 14:38 |
| Feldegast | sometimes i can press esc and it returns to the desktop without needing to enter the password.... | 14:38 |
| MsCourtney | Hi, Graphics acceleration does not seem to be working at all on Ubuntu 12.10. Its an Intel GPU | 14:41 |
| Feldegast | does intel have graphics acceleration? i thought only ati and nvidia did.... | 14:42 |
| cmagina | intel does | 14:42 |
| * cmagina is running on 12.10 with graphics accel right now using an intel chip | 14:43 | |
| * Feldegast is using 12.10 and kernel 3.5.0-24-generic #37-Ubuntu SMP Thu Feb 7 05:32:22 UTC 2013 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux | 14:44 | |
| Feldegast | if i go any newer, usb drives no longer mount | 14:44 |
| cmagina | interesting, did you report a bug? | 14:45 |
| Feldegast | yes | 14:45 |
| Feldegast | #1132498 | 14:45 |
| cmagina | any followup from the kernel team? | 14:45 |
| Feldegast | i was asked to test against 3.8 which i did and reported back | 14:46 |
| Feldegast | nothing since then | 14:46 |
| Feldegast | same issue with 3.8 | 14:47 |
| Feldegast | consolekit is also crashing with any newer kernels | 14:48 |
| Feldegast | may be related, i do not know enough to be sure | 14:48 |
| Feldegast | i reported that as bug #1132493 | 14:49 |
| ubottu | bug 1132493 in consolekit (Ubuntu) "crashes during kdm login before KDE shows the desktop" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1132493 | 14:49 |
| cmagina | yeah, was just reading through it | 14:49 |
| Feldegast | :) | 14:49 |
| cmagina | have you attempted to reproduce using lightdm instead of kdm by chance? | 14:50 |
| Feldegast | i am not sure what else i can do but i am willing to try anything if needed | 14:50 |
| * cmagina knows nothing about consolekit beyond its existance | 14:50 | |
| Feldegast | i stopped using lightdm a while aback due to other issues but i can try it | 14:50 |
| cmagina | it would seem to be an issue between the kernel and your hardware or at least that would be my first guess | 14:51 |
| cmagina | i have some asus boards around, but haven't hit this issue | 14:51 |
| BluesKaj | Feldegast, which kubuntu version ? | 14:52 |
| Feldegast | i am using an eee pc 1001pe | 14:52 |
| Feldegast | 12.10 | 14:52 |
| cmagina | ah, so laptop | 14:52 |
| Feldegast | i do not see the issue on my 64bit desktop | 14:52 |
| Feldegast | i will try lightdm | 14:53 |
| mr0wl | i'm a little confused, is Kubuntu funded by Canonical or Blue Systems? | 14:53 |
| Feldegast | blue systems iirc | 14:53 |
| BluesKaj | Feldegast, lightdm should be working fine on your system if you've done the updates/upgrades and dist-upgrade since the lightdm issue, which goes back more than 2 months | 14:53 |
| cmagina | it might not change anything, but if it reproduces, then we can update the bug title to reflect it | 14:54 |
| Feldegast | BluesKaj i will try it, when lightdn 1st came in kde was more stable | 14:54 |
| Feldegast | er kdm was more stable | 14:54 |
| BluesKaj | well ,the default upgrades should replace kdm with lightdm | 14:56 |
| mr0wl | then Kubuntu should really change it's name | 14:56 |
| cmagina | why? its no different then lubuntu, xubuntu, etc now | 14:57 |
| avihay | kubuntu's infrastructure is funded by canonical, kubuntu development team (just one person, I think) is funded by blue-system | 14:57 |
| Feldegast | BlaXpirit it did but i went back to kdm cos lightdm wasn't working well for me, will try lightdm now | 14:57 |
| Feldegast | back asap | 14:58 |
| yofel | mr0wl: Canonical provides the infrastructure and owns the trademark "Kubuntu" - a rename would mean to leave the *buntusphere. The developer funding comes from blue systems mostly | 15:00 |
| mr0wl | the name seems too complex | 15:01 |
| BluesKaj | rumour has it that Ubuntu/Canonical will become a rolling distro next year ,( 14.04) | 15:01 |
| mr0wl | isn't 14.04 another LTS? | 15:02 |
| BluesKaj | there's also a shift towards mobile tuned OSs , so the future for desktop and laptop on (K)ubuntu is somewhat murky | 15:04 |
| mr0wl | funny they would start a rolling release with an LTS | 15:04 |
| BluesKaj | mr0wl, no one mentioned anything about the LTS , but it's not unreasonable to surmise that a rolling distro can still be an LTS | 15:06 |
| mr0wl | worst case senario Kubuntu can become a Debian based rolling release distro | 15:06 |
| mr0wl | it doesn't give the same perception of stability though | 15:07 |
| BluesKaj | well, these are rumours , so I'm not analysing this too deeply yet :) | 15:08 |
| BluesKaj | raises some obvious questions tho | 15:09 |
| Rish | i m using kubuntu on virtual machine...my laptop is connected to wifi...but kubuntu is not connectin to wifi..i mean i cant access internet on kubuntu...what should i do? | 15:17 |
| lordievader | Rish: How did you setup the vm networking? | 15:19 |
| Rish | means? | 15:20 |
| Rish | i m using virtual box | 15:20 |
| lordievader | Rish: Under the network settings tab have you configured the vm to use NAT? | 15:21 |
| Feldegast | now i remember why i don't use lightdm, it doesn't work, loading the kde plasma desktop just returns to lightdm | 15:21 |
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| Rish | lordievader: well i didnt configured it...it used to work by itself | 15:22 |
| Rish | lordievader: how should i check wether its NAT or not? | 15:23 |
| Feldegast | anything else i should try? | 15:23 |
| lordievader | Rish: Open Virtualbox, go to the Settings of the VM, to the Network tab, and check if "Attached to:" is set to use NAT. | 15:25 |
| Rish | lordievader: ya its NAT | 15:25 |
| Feldegast | anything else i can try? | 15:25 |
| lordievader | Rish: Hmm usually NAT works... you might try Bridged, bridge it to your wifi card not your lan card ;) | 15:27 |
| mandoguit | Rish: switch it to bridged | 15:27 |
| Rish | ya i got it workin... | 15:27 |
| Rish | lordievader: actually it automatically started working | 15:27 |
| Feldegast | i generally use bridged | 15:27 |
| Rish | i just restarted the connection | 15:27 |
| Rish | thanks | 15:28 |
| lordievader | Feldegast: Different uses, different needs ;) | 15:28 |
| Feldegast | indeed | 15:29 |
| BluesKaj | Feldegast, then you have to make a DM choice , either KDM or Lightdm | 15:29 |
| Feldegast | BluesKaj not a choice, lightdm fails to load kde so is not a option | 15:30 |
| Feldegast | i could use gdm i guess | 15:30 |
| BluesKaj | which kde version, Feldegast ? | 15:30 |
| Feldegast | i dunno how that would mount my usb drive | 15:31 |
| Feldegast | let me see..... | 15:32 |
| Ana-45 | Hola | 15:34 |
| Ana-45 | aquí se puede pedir ayuda de ubuntu ? | 15:35 |
| Feldegast | kde base is 4:4.10.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu12.10~ppa1 | 15:36 |
| Ana-45 | gracias, ya veo que esto está muerto | 15:38 |
| Ana-45 | ciao | 15:38 |
| apg | siapa yang sudah makan? | 15:39 |
| BluesKaj | ok Feldegast so you already have 4.10, that's odd that you would continue to have kde loading issues , but I think you have to have only one DM installed | 15:42 |
| Feldegast | when u install multiple DMs you select the one u want to use, the others are inactive | 15:43 |
| Feldegast | at least thats what it looks like | 15:43 |
| Feldegast | i could remove kdm so only lightdm and gdm are installed | 15:43 |
| roland_ | Hi. I'm running kubuntu 12.04 and something strange happened. run dialog (alt+f2) crashed. and after rebooting the machine, it is unusable. I'm able to login, but after that any keypress I make freezes KDE for 30-45 seconds (clock stops ticking). But I'm able to use the system from console or webmin. | 15:44 |
| Feldegast | but i do not understand why lightdm can't start the kde desktop, this was the reason for me going back to kdm initially | 15:44 |
| roland_ | Any idea how to diagnose my problem? | 15:45 |
| BluesKaj | well, your issue seems to be an anomaly , especially if you've done all the proper updates and upgrades , Feldegast | 15:46 |
| Feldegast | roland is your cpu running hot? | 15:46 |
| Feldegast | BluesKaj indeed, is there some way to compare current config files with the default ones and selectivly restore the defaults? | 15:47 |
| roland_ | Feldegast: system load is 0.01 | 15:48 |
| Feldegast | this sustem was initially kubunti 10.04, and has been upgraded with each release so it might have un-needed cruft | 15:48 |
| Feldegast | *system | 15:48 |
| BluesKaj | Feldegast, I would try removing KDM and trying lightdm alone. | 15:49 |
| Feldegast | i can do that | 15:49 |
| Feldegast | remove gdm too? | 15:49 |
| BluesKaj | yes | 15:49 |
| Feldegast | ok will try that | 15:49 |
| avihay | roland_: install kdiff (can compare entire libraries), move ~/.kde to ~/.kde.badconf , login from the gui and run kdiff on both folders | 15:52 |
| avihay | badconf should be A and the normal one should be B if you want to perform the changes directly on it | 15:53 |
| Feldegast | avihay i did that a while back lots of differences not detected during upgrades | 15:53 |
| avihay | BluesKaj: ^ | 15:54 |
| BluesKaj | avihay,/ | 15:56 |
| BluesKaj | ? | 15:56 |
| avihay | I think Feldegas.t pinged me instead of you | 15:56 |
| avihay | ^ = arrow up | 15:57 |
| BluesKaj | ok | 15:57 |
| Feldegast | avihay i was just saying i reset my kde config files and did a compare like that a while back.....is all | 15:58 |
| avihay | oh | 15:58 |
| avihay | I didn't try kdiff on folders till git suggested it to me | 15:58 |
| Feldegast | it fixed a lot of issues | 15:59 |
| BluesKaj | well, having 3 DMs is going to cause a problem I'm sure | 15:59 |
| avihay | shouldn't, only one is active at a time, dpkg magic or somth | 15:59 |
| Feldegast | exactly the others are deactivated | 16:00 |
| Feldegast | but i have removed them | 16:00 |
| BluesKaj | avihay, I had to delete KDM inorder get a desktop after kightdm was auto installed after upgrade to 12.10 | 16:00 |
| Feldegast | BluesKaj we will see if it works brb | 16:01 |
| avihay | ˄↑⇑⇧⤊⬆ꜛ￪ maybe when you uninstalled, it triggered dpkg-reconfigure DM | 16:02 |
| avihay | also, arrows!!!!!! | 16:02 |
| roland_ | avihay: I moved the .kde folder, system is now more responsive, but not entirely | 16:08 |
| * avihay shrugs | 16:09 | |
| roland_ | for example, opening dolphin... shows file list 20 seconds after main windows has appeared | 16:09 |
| avihay | I have something that when right clicking in dolphin, dolphin freezes fora few sec to a few min , and only then show the menu | 16:10 |
| roland_ | I haven't seen this kind of bug jet | 16:11 |
| roland_ | and I've used KDE 4 from the beginnig | 16:11 |
| avihay | I have a hunch it's nepomuk, but I havn't confirmed yet | 16:12 |
| BluesKaj | yeah , I have nepomuk / desktop Search and Akonadi and PIM , disabled and kmail , kontact etc removed from my system ... being a home user I don't have any need for any of those app/daemons running | 16:17 |
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| BluesKaj | It looks like Feldegast still has DM troubles ..not back yet | 16:20 |
| roland_ | avihay: I disabled nepomuk and akonadi , but it didn't change a thing(beside the fact that they are not running anymore) | 16:21 |
| roland_ | look like a reinstall is waiting | 16:22 |
| * avihay wants to reinstall, but his only machine is also his production machine | 16:23 | |
| avihay | :-< | 16:23 |
| roland_ | well this is my production machine that went nuts | 16:23 |
| BluesKaj | roland_, if you have a browser open , some plugins on chromium and FF can be taking up resources , there was a bug filed a while back about it, that should be solved now | 16:28 |
| roland_ | BluesKaj: I dont have anything open, except for dolphin and konsole | 16:28 |
| roland_ | firefox runs fine | 16:30 |
| BluesKaj | roland_, have you relogged in since | 16:30 |
| roland_ | I've rebooted the system a couple of times after disabling nepomuk,akonadi | 16:30 |
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| BluesKaj | roland_, have you set them to remain turned off in system settings>startrup&shutdown>session management>"applications to be excluded from sessions" textbox | 16:34 |
| roland_ | BluesKaj: they don't show up in ps anymore | 16:35 |
| BluesKaj | ok | 16:35 |
| Feldegast | lightdm can't find the kde desktop runtime | 16:53 |
| Feldegast | kdm can however | 16:53 |
| BluesKaj | very strange | 16:54 |
| BluesKaj | must be missing some libs | 16:54 |
| The_Parkers | hey all....would you recommend kubuntu as a good desktop os? | 16:55 |
| The_Parkers | looking to make the switch from windows 7 | 16:55 |
| BluesKaj | yes The_Parkers that's why we;re here :) | 16:55 |
| The_Parkers | people like that over ubuntu? | 16:56 |
| The_Parkers | just asking? | 16:56 |
| BluesKaj | you can keep W7 and install kubuntu on a partition beside windows | 16:56 |
| Feldegast | BluesKaj i doubt it, more likly the kde->kde4->kde name changing broke it | 16:56 |
| The_Parkers | thats right...good point | 16:56 |
| The_Parkers | im gonna grab the latest/greatest and go from there | 16:57 |
| BluesKaj | The_Parkers, a lot of linux users dual boot with windows | 16:57 |
| BluesKaj | !dualboot | 16:58 |
| ubottu | Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Windows - Macs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro https://help.ubuntu.com/community/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot | 16:58 |
| BluesKaj | The_Parkers, ^ | 16:58 |
| The_Parkers | how much of my 370gb should i use for kubuntu | 16:58 |
| Feldegast | so is there a way to identify if i have any broken config files? | 16:59 |
| BluesKaj | The_Parkers, that depends on where you plan to keep your media files and data files and how committed you are to using either OS . | 17:00 |
| Feldegast | The_Parkers i gave myself 80gb | 17:00 |
| The_Parkers | okay i will partition my hard drive for 80gb and go from there | 17:00 |
| Feldegast | i keep my media files elsewhere | 17:00 |
| The_Parkers | thanks all | 17:00 |
| The_Parkers | ill keep my media on my windows system | 17:00 |
| Feldegast | you may want/need a separate /boot partition | 17:01 |
| BluesKaj | right then The_Parkers 80-100G is a resonable size | 17:01 |
| BluesKaj | Feldegast, boot partitions aren't really necessary anymore | 17:01 |
| Feldegast | good to know | 17:01 |
| away | some (most?) people use one partition for / and one for /home | 17:02 |
| BluesKaj | they just complicate the partitioning process with no rela benefit | 17:02 |
| Feldegast | this system has been upgraded since 8.04 | 17:02 |
| MsCourtney | Hi, I graphics acceleration is not working on 12.10. Its an Intel GPU. | 17:02 |
| BluesKaj | MsCourtney, have you installed the recommended driver in jockey ? | 17:03 |
| MsCourtney | BluesKaj: There are none. It is an Intel GPU | 17:04 |
| BluesKaj | onboard ? | 17:04 |
| MsCourtney | BluesKaj: On cpu | 17:05 |
| MsCourtney | BluesKaj: Any ideas? | 17:09 |
| BluesKaj | MsCourtney, in the terminal , lspci | grep VGA , so we canwhich gpu we're dealing with | 17:16 |
| BluesKaj | see | 17:16 |
| Feldegast | mine is a Intel Corporation Atom Processor D4xx/D5xx/N4xx/N5xx Integrated Graphics Controller | 17:17 |
| Feldegast | i just asumed there was no acceleration | 17:18 |
| MsCourtney | BluesKaj: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0000]: Intel Corporation Haswell Graphics Controller [8086:0172] (rev 01) | 17:20 |
| BluesKaj | MsCourtney, Feldegast if you have the i965-va-driver installed then you should have #d and Dri | 17:20 |
| BluesKaj | 3D and dri | 17:20 |
| MsCourtney | BluesKaj: It works out of the box on my Intel HD 4000 GPU on another laptop. | 17:21 |
| BluesKaj | the best method to find your installed driver is to install mesa-utils , then run, glxinfo | grep OpenGL ..the version string shows the installed driver | 17:23 |
| mr0wl | has anyone figured out a way to integrate Dropbox with Dolphin? | 17:24 |
| MsCourtney | mr0wl: Yes, there is something on kde-look.org for that I think, you can get it using the "get hot new stuff"for services in dolphin | 17:25 |
| Feldegast | renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) IGD x86/MMX/SSE2 | 17:26 |
| BluesKaj | Feldegast, version string ? | 17:27 |
| Feldegast | version string: 1.4 Mesa 9.0.2 | 17:28 |
| BluesKaj | MsCourtney, well install the i965 driver since it appears to be the driver you need , unless it's already installed. | 17:29 |
| Feldegast | i think my best option is probaly a fresh install | 17:30 |
| Feldegast | what a pita tho :( | 17:30 |
| BluesKaj | Feldegast, then you are using the default 2D driver without the Dri or 3D , so install i965 | 17:31 |
| Feldegast | BluesKaj i doubt that would work on a eee pc | 17:32 |
| reggie_ | Hey does Kubuntu suffer from the same issues that Unity suffers when it comes to NVidia and dual monitors??? | 17:34 |
| Feldegast | unity is gnome only | 17:34 |
| Torch | reggie_: which issues would that be? | 17:34 |
| reggie_ | well torch this is a bit embarrasing | 17:35 |
| Torch | reggie_: let's hear it then ;-) | 17:35 |
| reggie_ | I'm a network admin and my personal win server 2008 r2 box got hacked through a dos attack | 17:35 |
| BluesKaj | Feldegast, according to the the gpu spec requirement in the package manager , the i965 should work | 17:35 |
| Feldegast | ahh well | 17:35 |
| reggie_ | so got nervous and wiped my machine and decided to take the full Ubuntu plunge but tried Unity 12.10 | 17:36 |
| reggie_ | I know LTS is more stable but wanted to try it anyway | 17:36 |
| rosco_y | reggie_: I switched from 12.10 to LTS, and I'm glad I did..... | 17:36 |
| Feldegast | reggie_ have u installed the kde desktop? | 17:36 |
| reggie_ | so I wiped my machine installed and things were working well until I tried to move things around and update the box | 17:37 |
| MsCourtney | BluesKaj: Solved my problem. Since this is a prototype computer, its CPU and GPU are not on the market yet and 12.10 does not support it. | 17:37 |
| reggie_ | so now it constantly freeezes when I do random things, mind you I havben't even tried to use the proprietary drivers | 17:37 |
| Torch | reggie_: maybe you should | 17:38 |
| reggie_ | No i Have not installed KDE desktop do you think Unity is the problem ??? | 17:38 |
| Torch | reggie_: can't tell. i have a stable system with nvdiia 8xx card, kde and the binary nvidia drivers | 17:38 |
| reggie_ | I thought about trying netrunner or mint as a replacement as I read that cinnamon DE does not exhibit issues with dual monitors | 17:38 |
| BluesKaj | MsCourtney, so how did you solve the problem ? | 17:38 |
| Torch | reggie_: don't believe anything you read ;-) | 17:39 |
| rosco_y | reggie_: that's what I was going to say: 12.10 randomly went flakey, and I swtiched to LTS. It's not perfect, but I'm pitching that I like it a lot better..... | 17:39 |
| Torch | errr, everything, that is ;-) well, in some cases anything. | 17:39 |
| BluesKaj | anyway , need to go for a bit ...BBL | 17:39 |
| reggie_ | yea but the thing is I tried Zorin OS 6 which is an LTS version and it exibited the same issues | 17:40 |
| MsCourtney | BluesKaj: I didn't but, it says on here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1066975 | 17:40 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1085245 in linux (Ubuntu Quantal) "duplicate for #1066975 [Quantal] Include support for Haswell hardware" [Medium,Fix released] | 17:40 |
| Torch | i'm also running 12.04 (not for the LTS, just didn't get around to upgrading to 12.10 yet and will probably skip it) | 17:40 |
| rosco_y | erhm....I had a question--"is there a command-line utility that can recursively search inside of text files for a pattern, and report the files where the pattern occurs?" | 17:40 |
| Torch | rosco_y: yes, grep | 17:41 |
| reggie_ | I'm not seeing anything special with 12.10 to be honest. I like Unity though but think I will have to let it go until version 15.04 :( | 17:41 |
| rosco_y | Torch: :) beautiful, thanks! | 17:41 |
| Feldegast | reggie_ 15.04? | 17:41 |
| rosco_y | I'm thinking no upgrades unless I see something I have to have in a virtual machine first.... | 17:42 |
| rosco_y | I'm in love with forward progress..... | 17:42 |
| reggie_ | this is a bit frustrating, one last thing, I installed vmware workstation to have a windwos install locally but as soon as I try putting the guest into fullscreen mode on let's say monitor 2 system locks up | 17:42 |
| reggie_ | lol Yes I'm serious 15.04 3 years from now lol | 17:42 |
| Torch | reggie_: same thing, isn't it? gfx driver problem. | 17:42 |
| Feldegast | reggie_ and u haven't tried the proprietory drivers? | 17:43 |
| reggie_ | I just think for an enterprise environment Unity still feels a bit beta, love the direction it is going but these tyes of bugs should have been worked out prior to a release | 17:43 |
| Feldegast | i found they were better for dual monitor support | 17:43 |
| rosco_y | reggie_: I have windows installed in VirtualBox, I use it to run MS's express tools. Windows runs waaay better under Linux than it does under Windows :) | 17:43 |
| Torch | reggie_: neither KDE nor gnome nor unity are ready for the enterprise | 17:43 |
| Feldegast | Torch i think redhat and ibm would disagree | 17:44 |
| reggie_ | Hey Toch you may be right but they're definitely more secure than a windows box :( | 17:44 |
| reggie_ | meant Torch | 17:44 |
| * Torch shrugs. | 17:44 | |
| Feldegast | unity isn't ready i agree | 17:45 |
| Torch | Feldegast: they make their money selling that stuff. so what do you expect them to say? | 17:45 |
| reggie_ | I will try running the nvidia driver installation but I'm reading in the forums that they're problematic as well, for example serious artifacts on the screens when running unity 3d | 17:45 |
| Feldegast | kde 3.5 is fine so is gnome 2 | 17:45 |
| rosco_y | I think KDE is a great work environment for the home office. I love the Activities and Desktops as a way to organize work spaces. | 17:45 |
| Feldegast | reggie_ do not use unity then | 17:46 |
| Torch | reggie_: we won't be able to help you much with unity here, i'm afraid. | 17:46 |
| Torch | reggie_: like i said, the binary drivers work fine for me with kde | 17:46 |
| reggie_ | Do you guys think perhaps using gnome 3.6 instead would be a more stable deal? | 17:46 |
| Torch | reggie_: well, this isn't the unity-vs-gnome-channel either ;-) | 17:46 |
| rosco_y | I'm not fond of gnome, I think it's just what you learned first. | 17:46 |
| reggie_ | I am just asking not asking which is better than the other jkust need a stable DE to work out of | 17:47 |
| rosco_y | well, blankety-blank the blankety blank. This is fun, but I gotta get to it. | 17:47 |
| Feldegast | reggie_ try kde | 17:47 |
| rosco_y | I agree, kde rules | 17:47 |
| reggie_ | I will give Netrunner a try then | 17:47 |
| reggie_ | although I remember running into problems with netrunner after doing an apt-get upgrade | 17:48 |
| reggie_ | vm stopped working | 17:48 |
| Feldegast | kde-desktop-environment | 17:49 |
| reggie_ | think it was the last release | 17:49 |
| reggie_ | netrunner is kdecentric :) | 17:50 |
| mr0wl | anyone proficient in both OSX and Linux here? | 18:43 |
| reggie_ | proficient, can you be specific? | 18:44 |
| reggie_ | are you dealing with a specific issue? | 18:44 |
| mr0wl | yes with firewalls | 18:45 |
| mr0wl | i'm trying to interpret certain rules for iptables | 18:45 |
| reggie_ | ahh okay that's clearer when you mentioned firewalls thought you were referring to an appliance, I'm not really good with IP tables | 18:47 |
| reggie_ | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo | 18:51 |
| Korrosion | Where can we find centos 5 minimal? | 19:59 |
| bazhang | Korrosion, #centos | 19:59 |
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| mr0wl | is it possible to specify a certain Konsole profile for terminal applications? | 20:44 |
| BluesKaj | mr0wl, yes open a konsole >settings>manage profiles ... altho I've never tried it | 20:53 |
| mr0wl | BluesKaj: i was thinking, assigning profiles to certain terminal applications | 20:57 |
| mr0wl | would i have to use alias? | 20:58 |
| mr0wl | let's say top: konsole --profile top_profile top? | 20:58 |
| mr0wl | BluesKaj: apparently this is suppose to be it: konsole --profile my_profile -e terminal_app | 21:17 |
| mr0wl | but it doesn't work | 21:17 |
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| cihhan | How can i read individual processes' cpu and memory utilization? I checked /proc/pid but i think im still missing something out there. | 22:19 |
| mandoguit | top | 22:32 |
| cihhan | mandoguit: if possible i dont want to use external programs to do it | 22:37 |
| mandoguit | external program?? not sure what you mean then.... top comes with pretty much any distro afaik | 22:40 |
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| Sir1786 | hello | 23:58 |
| mr0wl | Sir1786: hi | 23:58 |
| Sir1786 | mr0wl: how are you? | 23:58 |
| mr0wl | okay thanks | 23:58 |
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