[00:27] I'm trying to compile purple-otr, but I keep getting an error for libotr not being 3.2.0 or greater (which it is), and another issue with the config being for "x86_64-pc-linux-gnu", and doesn't match "x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu". Pastebin for the ./configure and output/errors can be found here => http://paste.ubuntu.com/5575026/ === Babbu is now known as Babbu|Trolling === Babbu|Trolling is now known as Babbu === murthy is now known as murthy_\ === murthy_\ is now known as murthy_ [02:28] Is KDE 4.10 going to be available for 12.10 other than the backports? [03:37] ScottyK: you mean in the archive? [03:37] nope [03:38] so the only way to get 4.10 for 12.10 is to use the backports, correct? [03:38] the backports PPA, correct [03:38] ok, thanks shadeslayer! [03:39] ScottyK: note that there's a ubuntu-backports component as well [03:39] so when refering to the PPA it's always good to append PPA there :P [03:43] true! I've got 12.10 right now, one computer I already activated the backport, but the computer I had not. Was curious if it was going to be pushed down before 13.04 came out. [03:45] Evening. [03:55] If I have an application segfaulting using Kubuntu in a VM, would running Kubuntu bare-metal in someway help? === ronnoc_ is now known as ronnoc === TheMaster is now known as Hypnotoad === Wi1d_ is now known as Wi1d === KJ_agent007 is now known as kotTon_kaNdiy [06:41] BluesKaj, do i need to change the operating system itself, if the broken dependencies aren't fixed? [07:34] Shadeslayer, can you take out some time and help me fix my system? [07:34] hi people, i am running kde sc 4.10 on my ubuntu machine and i want to do development work with Amarok. However due to broken dependencies, it shows there is no kdelibs5 candidate installed. I just want to know that, would it effect the development work? [07:34] by it, i mean,i just checked on terminal. [07:35] The problem is mainly with kubuntu-ppa's i added and did a distribution upgrade. Now there is unmet depencendies, and there seems no way out, like a deadlock [07:39] dishantp: you can ppa-purge the ppa and try again possibly [07:42] Hi, I have an error configuring telepathy from git: [07:42] sithlord48, thank you very much. hope this works,looking into it. [07:42] CMake Error at /usr/share/cmake-2.8/Modules/FindPackageHandleStandardArgs.cmake:97 (MESSAGE):\n Could NOT find TELEPATHY_QT4 (missing: TELEPATHY_QT4_INCLUDE_DIR) [07:43] i have never had luck building stuff w/ cmake [07:43] avihay: telepathy is a nightmare. The dependencies are not right, and I manage from time to time to make it work... [07:43] I tried installing nearly all telepathy dev packages I could think of. anyone knows? yofel, I have a feeling you know the answer [07:43] But it aint easy. [07:44] :-< [07:48] sithlord48, unmet dependencies here too. can't even install ppa-purge === gordon is now known as Guest30941 [07:48] It says : The following packages have unmet dependencies: [07:48] kdepimlibs-kio-plugins : Depends: libkimap4 (= 4:4.8.5-0ubuntu0.1~ppa2) but 4:4.10.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu12.04.2~ppa1 is to be installed [07:50] you should be safe to remove that package. if you can remove it w/o breaking your system you can finish your upgrade and then reinstall the newer version (if there is one) [07:53] sithlord48, won't even remove. libkimap4 and kdepimlibs5-dev are interdependent. okay,a fresh install seems the way togo. === julian is now known as Guest37380 [08:04] dishantp: you can force dpkg to install and remove packages [08:06] avihay : ok,let me see. === rani is now known as Guest50989 === pjoe_afk is now known as pjoe === ed__ is now known as ed5678998 === pjoe is now known as pjoe_dj [10:35] hey guys do u know any graphic editor that automaticaly refresh the content on a change? [10:36] im currently usin gwenview, but everytime i the content changes i need to press f5 [11:27] hello world :D [12:16] I've finally succeded to set up my znc server, now I don't have to miss up on conversations while I'm gone :D [12:24] are kubuntu backports e.g. kde 4.10 stable to use? [12:25] Fuzzles: if they're stable releases of KDE SC then yes they should be [12:27] Tm_T: KDE SC? [12:29] Good afternoon [12:29] afternoon [12:32] does the backports only hold kde sc or test ones aswell? [12:38] Fuzzles: only the stable ones [12:39] yofel: ok thanks trying 4.10 any min now [12:42] well, I gave up on telepathy, and started to build kdevelop and I have a problem. [12:43] kdevelopplatform builds fine, but kdevelop needs kdevelopplatform, and it doesn't use the newly built one [12:48] umm, and now it does build [12:50] what is kdevelop? [12:51] It's an IDE (Integrated Development Environment) [12:51] !info kdevelop | Fuzzles [12:51] Fuzzles: kdevelop (source: kdevelop): integrated development environment for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:4.4.1-0ubuntu0.1 (quantal), package size 1218 kB, installed size 4839 kB [12:51] oh ok thanks [12:51] ok, I think I got why telepathy didn't work [12:52] rb [12:52] brb [12:52] kdesrc needs sudo to install, but the script isn't interactive, so it fails instead of asking for a password [13:15] woho, it built [13:35] wel, telepathy still doesn't build :-< [13:47] Hiyas all [14:38] hi i think i have come across a security issue in the lock screen [14:38] sometimes i can press esc and it returns to the desktop without needing to enter the password.... [14:41] Hi, Graphics acceleration does not seem to be working at all on Ubuntu 12.10. Its an Intel GPU [14:42] does intel have graphics acceleration? i thought only ati and nvidia did.... [14:42] intel does [14:43] * cmagina is running on 12.10 with graphics accel right now using an intel chip [14:44] * Feldegast is using 12.10 and kernel 3.5.0-24-generic #37-Ubuntu SMP Thu Feb 7 05:32:22 UTC 2013 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux [14:44] if i go any newer, usb drives no longer mount [14:45] interesting, did you report a bug? [14:45] yes [14:45] #1132498 [14:45] any followup from the kernel team? [14:46] i was asked to test against 3.8 which i did and reported back [14:46] nothing since then [14:47] same issue with 3.8 [14:48] consolekit is also crashing with any newer kernels [14:48] may be related, i do not know enough to be sure [14:49] i reported that as bug #1132493 [14:49] bug 1132493 in consolekit (Ubuntu) "crashes during kdm login before KDE shows the desktop" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1132493 [14:49] yeah, was just reading through it [14:49] :) [14:50] have you attempted to reproduce using lightdm instead of kdm by chance? [14:50] i am not sure what else i can do but i am willing to try anything if needed [14:50] * cmagina knows nothing about consolekit beyond its existance [14:50] i stopped using lightdm a while aback due to other issues but i can try it [14:51] it would seem to be an issue between the kernel and your hardware or at least that would be my first guess [14:51] i have some asus boards around, but haven't hit this issue [14:52] Feldegast, which kubuntu version ? [14:52] i am using an eee pc 1001pe [14:52] 12.10 [14:52] ah, so laptop [14:52] i do not see the issue on my 64bit desktop [14:53] i will try lightdm [14:53] i'm a little confused, is Kubuntu funded by Canonical or Blue Systems? [14:53] blue systems iirc [14:53] Feldegast, lightdm should be working fine on your system if you've done the updates/upgrades and dist-upgrade since the lightdm issue, which goes back more than 2 months [14:54] it might not change anything, but if it reproduces, then we can update the bug title to reflect it [14:54] BluesKaj i will try it, when lightdn 1st came in kde was more stable [14:54] er kdm was more stable [14:56] well ,the default upgrades should replace kdm with lightdm [14:56] then Kubuntu should really change it's name [14:57] why? its no different then lubuntu, xubuntu, etc now [14:57] kubuntu's infrastructure is funded by canonical, kubuntu development team (just one person, I think) is funded by blue-system [14:57] BlaXpirit it did but i went back to kdm cos lightdm wasn't working well for me, will try lightdm now [14:58] back asap [15:00] mr0wl: Canonical provides the infrastructure and owns the trademark "Kubuntu" - a rename would mean to leave the *buntusphere. The developer funding comes from blue systems mostly [15:01] the name seems too complex [15:01] rumour has it that Ubuntu/Canonical will become a rolling distro next year ,( 14.04) [15:02] isn't 14.04 another LTS? [15:04] there's also a shift towards mobile tuned OSs , so the future for desktop and laptop on (K)ubuntu is somewhat murky [15:04] funny they would start a rolling release with an LTS [15:06] mr0wl, no one mentioned anything about the LTS , but it's not unreasonable to surmise that a rolling distro can still be an LTS [15:06] worst case senario Kubuntu can become a Debian based rolling release distro [15:07] it doesn't give the same perception of stability though [15:08] well, these are rumours , so I'm not analysing this too deeply yet :) [15:09] raises some obvious questions tho [15:17] i m using kubuntu on virtual machine...my laptop is connected to wifi...but kubuntu is not connectin to wifi..i mean i cant access internet on kubuntu...what should i do? [15:19] Rish: How did you setup the vm networking? [15:20] means? [15:20] i m using virtual box [15:21] Rish: Under the network settings tab have you configured the vm to use NAT? [15:21] now i remember why i don't use lightdm, it doesn't work, loading the kde plasma desktop just returns to lightdm === pjoe_dj is now known as pjoe_afk [15:22] lordievader: well i didnt configured it...it used to work by itself [15:23] lordievader: how should i check wether its NAT or not? [15:23] anything else i should try? [15:25] Rish: Open Virtualbox, go to the Settings of the VM, to the Network tab, and check if "Attached to:" is set to use NAT. [15:25] lordievader: ya its NAT [15:25] anything else i can try? [15:27] Rish: Hmm usually NAT works... you might try Bridged, bridge it to your wifi card not your lan card ;) [15:27] Rish: switch it to bridged [15:27] ya i got it workin... [15:27] lordievader: actually it automatically started working [15:27] i generally use bridged [15:27] i just restarted the connection [15:28] thanks [15:28] Feldegast: Different uses, different needs ;) [15:29] indeed [15:29] Feldegast, then you have to make a DM choice , either KDM or Lightdm [15:30] BluesKaj not a choice, lightdm fails to load kde so is not a option [15:30] i could use gdm i guess [15:30] which kde version, Feldegast ? [15:31] i dunno how that would mount my usb drive [15:32] let me see..... [15:34] Hola [15:35] aquí se puede pedir ayuda de ubuntu ? [15:36] kde base is 4:4.10.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu12.10~ppa1 [15:38] gracias, ya veo que esto está muerto [15:38] ciao [15:39] siapa yang sudah makan? [15:42] ok Feldegast so you already have 4.10, that's odd that you would continue to have kde loading issues , but I think you have to have only one DM installed [15:43] when u install multiple DMs you select the one u want to use, the others are inactive [15:43] at least thats what it looks like [15:43] i could remove kdm so only lightdm and gdm are installed [15:44] Hi. I'm running kubuntu 12.04 and something strange happened. run dialog (alt+f2) crashed. and after rebooting the machine, it is unusable. I'm able to login, but after that any keypress I make freezes KDE for 30-45 seconds (clock stops ticking). But I'm able to use the system from console or webmin. [15:44] but i do not understand why lightdm can't start the kde desktop, this was the reason for me going back to kdm initially [15:45] Any idea how to diagnose my problem? [15:46] well, your issue seems to be an anomaly , especially if you've done all the proper updates and upgrades , Feldegast [15:46] roland is your cpu running hot? [15:47] BluesKaj indeed, is there some way to compare current config files with the default ones and selectivly restore the defaults? [15:48] Feldegast: system load is 0.01 [15:48] this sustem was initially kubunti 10.04, and has been upgraded with each release so it might have un-needed cruft [15:48] *system [15:49] Feldegast, I would try removing KDM and trying lightdm alone. [15:49] i can do that [15:49] remove gdm too? [15:49] yes [15:49] ok will try that [15:52] roland_: install kdiff (can compare entire libraries), move ~/.kde to ~/.kde.badconf , login from the gui and run kdiff on both folders [15:53] badconf should be A and the normal one should be B if you want to perform the changes directly on it [15:53] avihay i did that a while back lots of differences not detected during upgrades [15:54] BluesKaj: ^ [15:56] avihay,/ [15:56] ? [15:56] I think Feldegas.t pinged me instead of you [15:57] ^ = arrow up [15:57] ok [15:58] avihay i was just saying i reset my kde config files and did a compare like that a while back.....is all [15:58] oh [15:58] I didn't try kdiff on folders till git suggested it to me [15:59] it fixed a lot of issues [15:59] well, having 3 DMs is going to cause a problem I'm sure [15:59] shouldn't, only one is active at a time, dpkg magic or somth [16:00] exactly the others are deactivated [16:00] but i have removed them [16:00] avihay, I had to delete KDM inorder get a desktop after kightdm was auto installed after upgrade to 12.10 [16:01] BluesKaj we will see if it works brb [16:02] ˄↑⇑⇧⤊⬆ꜛ￪ maybe when you uninstalled, it triggered dpkg-reconfigure DM [16:02] also, arrows!!!!!! [16:08] avihay: I moved the .kde folder, system is now more responsive, but not entirely [16:09] * avihay shrugs [16:09] for example, opening dolphin... shows file list 20 seconds after main windows has appeared [16:10] I have something that when right clicking in dolphin, dolphin freezes fora few sec to a few min , and only then show the menu [16:11] I haven't seen this kind of bug jet [16:11] and I've used KDE 4 from the beginnig [16:12] I have a hunch it's nepomuk, but I havn't confirmed yet [16:17] yeah , I have nepomuk / desktop Search and Akonadi and PIM , disabled and kmail , kontact etc removed from my system ... being a home user I don't have any need for any of those app/daemons running === FReaper is now known as FlameReaper [16:20] It looks like Feldegast still has DM troubles ..not back yet [16:21] avihay: I disabled nepomuk and akonadi , but it didn't change a thing(beside the fact that they are not running anymore) [16:22] look like a reinstall is waiting [16:23] * avihay wants to reinstall, but his only machine is also his production machine [16:23] :-< [16:23] well this is my production machine that went nuts [16:28] roland_, if you have a browser open , some plugins on chromium and FF can be taking up resources , there was a bug filed a while back about it, that should be solved now [16:28] BluesKaj: I dont have anything open, except for dolphin and konsole [16:30] firefox runs fine [16:30] roland_, have you relogged in since [16:30] I've rebooted the system a couple of times after disabling nepomuk,akonadi === anoneemouse is now known as tjaart [16:34] roland_, have you set them to remain turned off in system settings>startrup&shutdown>session management>"applications to be excluded from sessions" textbox [16:35] BluesKaj: they don't show up in ps anymore [16:35] ok [16:53] lightdm can't find the kde desktop runtime [16:53] kdm can however [16:54] very strange [16:54] must be missing some libs [16:55] hey all....would you recommend kubuntu as a good desktop os? [16:55] looking to make the switch from windows 7 [16:55] yes The_Parkers that's why we;re here :) [16:56] people like that over ubuntu? [16:56] just asking? [16:56] you can keep W7 and install kubuntu on a partition beside windows [16:56] BluesKaj i doubt it, more likly the kde->kde4->kde name changing broke it [16:56] thats right...good point [16:57] im gonna grab the latest/greatest and go from there [16:57] The_Parkers, a lot of linux users dual boot with windows [16:58] !dualboot [16:58] Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Windows - Macs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro https://help.ubuntu.com/community/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot [16:58] The_Parkers, ^ [16:58] how much of my 370gb should i use for kubuntu [16:59] so is there a way to identify if i have any broken config files? [17:00] The_Parkers, that depends on where you plan to keep your media files and data files and how committed you are to using either OS . [17:00] The_Parkers i gave myself 80gb [17:00] okay i will partition my hard drive for 80gb and go from there [17:00] i keep my media files elsewhere [17:00] thanks all [17:00] ill keep my media on my windows system [17:01] you may want/need a separate /boot partition [17:01] right then The_Parkers 80-100G is a resonable size [17:01] Feldegast, boot partitions aren't really necessary anymore [17:01] good to know [17:02] some (most?) people use one partition for / and one for /home [17:02] they just complicate the partitioning process with no rela benefit [17:02] this system has been upgraded since 8.04 [17:02] Hi, I graphics acceleration is not working on 12.10. Its an Intel GPU. [17:03] MsCourtney, have you installed the recommended driver in jockey ? [17:04] BluesKaj: There are none. It is an Intel GPU [17:04] onboard ? [17:05] BluesKaj: On cpu [17:09] BluesKaj: Any ideas? [17:16] MsCourtney, in the terminal , lspci | grep VGA , so we canwhich gpu we're dealing with [17:16] see [17:17] mine is a Intel Corporation Atom Processor D4xx/D5xx/N4xx/N5xx Integrated Graphics Controller [17:18] i just asumed there was no acceleration [17:20] BluesKaj: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0000]: Intel Corporation Haswell Graphics Controller [8086:0172] (rev 01) [17:20] MsCourtney, Feldegast if you have the i965-va-driver installed then you should have #d and Dri [17:20] 3D and dri [17:21] BluesKaj: It works out of the box on my Intel HD 4000 GPU on another laptop. [17:23] the best method to find your installed driver is to install mesa-utils , then run, glxinfo | grep OpenGL ..the version string shows the installed driver [17:24] has anyone figured out a way to integrate Dropbox with Dolphin? [17:25] mr0wl: Yes, there is something on kde-look.org for that I think, you can get it using the "get hot new stuff"for services in dolphin [17:26] renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) IGD x86/MMX/SSE2 [17:27] Feldegast, version string ? [17:28] version string: 1.4 Mesa 9.0.2 [17:29] MsCourtney, well install the i965 driver since it appears to be the driver you need , unless it's already installed. [17:30] i think my best option is probaly a fresh install [17:30] what a pita tho :( [17:31] Feldegast, then you are using the default 2D driver without the Dri or 3D , so install i965 [17:32] BluesKaj i doubt that would work on a eee pc [17:34] Hey does Kubuntu suffer from the same issues that Unity suffers when it comes to NVidia and dual monitors??? [17:34] unity is gnome only [17:34] reggie_: which issues would that be? [17:35] well torch this is a bit embarrasing [17:35] reggie_: let's hear it then ;-) [17:35] I'm a network admin and my personal win server 2008 r2 box got hacked through a dos attack [17:35] Feldegast, according to the the gpu spec requirement in the package manager , the i965 should work [17:35] ahh well [17:36] so got nervous and wiped my machine and decided to take the full Ubuntu plunge but tried Unity 12.10 [17:36] I know LTS is more stable but wanted to try it anyway [17:36] reggie_: I switched from 12.10 to LTS, and I'm glad I did..... [17:36] reggie_ have u installed the kde desktop? [17:37] so I wiped my machine installed and things were working well until I tried to move things around and update the box [17:37] BluesKaj: Solved my problem. Since this is a prototype computer, its CPU and GPU are not on the market yet and 12.10 does not support it. [17:37] so now it constantly freeezes when I do random things, mind you I havben't even tried to use the proprietary drivers [17:38] reggie_: maybe you should [17:38] No i Have not installed KDE desktop do you think Unity is the problem ??? [17:38] reggie_: can't tell. i have a stable system with nvdiia 8xx card, kde and the binary nvidia drivers [17:38] I thought about trying netrunner or mint as a replacement as I read that cinnamon DE does not exhibit issues with dual monitors [17:38] MsCourtney, so how did you solve the problem ? [17:39] reggie_: don't believe anything you read ;-) [17:39] reggie_: that's what I was going to say: 12.10 randomly went flakey, and I swtiched to LTS. It's not perfect, but I'm pitching that I like it a lot better..... [17:39] errr, everything, that is ;-) well, in some cases anything. [17:39] anyway , need to go for a bit ...BBL [17:40] yea but the thing is I tried Zorin OS 6 which is an LTS version and it exibited the same issues [17:40] BluesKaj: I didn't but, it says on here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1066975 [17:40] Launchpad bug 1085245 in linux (Ubuntu Quantal) "duplicate for #1066975 [Quantal] Include support for Haswell hardware" [Medium,Fix released] [17:40] i'm also running 12.04 (not for the LTS, just didn't get around to upgrading to 12.10 yet and will probably skip it) [17:40] erhm....I had a question--"is there a command-line utility that can recursively search inside of text files for a pattern, and report the files where the pattern occurs?" [17:41] rosco_y: yes, grep [17:41] I'm not seeing anything special with 12.10 to be honest. I like Unity though but think I will have to let it go until version 15.04 :( [17:41] Torch: :) beautiful, thanks! [17:41] reggie_ 15.04? [17:42] I'm thinking no upgrades unless I see something I have to have in a virtual machine first.... [17:42] I'm in love with forward progress..... [17:42] this is a bit frustrating, one last thing, I installed vmware workstation to have a windwos install locally but as soon as I try putting the guest into fullscreen mode on let's say monitor 2 system locks up [17:42] lol Yes I'm serious 15.04 3 years from now lol [17:42] reggie_: same thing, isn't it? gfx driver problem. [17:43] reggie_ and u haven't tried the proprietory drivers? [17:43] I just think for an enterprise environment Unity still feels a bit beta, love the direction it is going but these tyes of bugs should have been worked out prior to a release [17:43] i found they were better for dual monitor support [17:43] reggie_: I have windows installed in VirtualBox, I use it to run MS's express tools. Windows runs waaay better under Linux than it does under Windows :) [17:43] reggie_: neither KDE nor gnome nor unity are ready for the enterprise [17:44] Torch i think redhat and ibm would disagree [17:44] Hey Toch you may be right but they're definitely more secure than a windows box :( [17:44] meant Torch [17:44] * Torch shrugs. [17:45] unity isn't ready i agree [17:45] Feldegast: they make their money selling that stuff. so what do you expect them to say? [17:45] I will try running the nvidia driver installation but I'm reading in the forums that they're problematic as well, for example serious artifacts on the screens when running unity 3d [17:45] kde 3.5 is fine so is gnome 2 [17:45] I think KDE is a great work environment for the home office. I love the Activities and Desktops as a way to organize work spaces. [17:46] reggie_ do not use unity then [17:46] reggie_: we won't be able to help you much with unity here, i'm afraid. [17:46] reggie_: like i said, the binary drivers work fine for me with kde [17:46] Do you guys think perhaps using gnome 3.6 instead would be a more stable deal? [17:46] reggie_: well, this isn't the unity-vs-gnome-channel either ;-) [17:46] I'm not fond of gnome, I think it's just what you learned first. [17:47] I am just asking not asking which is better than the other jkust need a stable DE to work out of [17:47] well, blankety-blank the blankety blank. This is fun, but I gotta get to it. [17:47] reggie_ try kde [17:47] I agree, kde rules [17:47] I will give Netrunner a try then [17:48] although I remember running into problems with netrunner after doing an apt-get upgrade [17:48] vm stopped working [17:49] kde-desktop-environment [17:49] think it was the last release [17:50] netrunner is kdecentric :) [18:43] anyone proficient in both OSX and Linux here? [18:44] proficient, can you be specific? [18:44] are you dealing with a specific issue? [18:45] yes with firewalls [18:45] i'm trying to interpret certain rules for iptables [18:47] ahh okay that's clearer when you mentioned firewalls thought you were referring to an appliance, I'm not really good with IP tables [18:51] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo [19:59] Where can we find centos 5 minimal? [19:59] Korrosion, #centos === SeH_ is now known as SeH [20:44] is it possible to specify a certain Konsole profile for terminal applications? [20:53] mr0wl, yes open a konsole >settings>manage profiles ... altho I've never tried it [20:57] BluesKaj: i was thinking, assigning profiles to certain terminal applications [20:58] would i have to use alias? [20:58] let's say top: konsole --profile top_profile top? [21:17] BluesKaj: apparently this is suppose to be it: konsole --profile my_profile -e terminal_app [21:17] but it doesn't work === elien is now known as sk_ryan007 [22:19] How can i read individual processes' cpu and memory utilization? I checked /proc/pid but i think im still missing something out there. [22:32] top [22:37] mandoguit: if possible i dont want to use external programs to do it [22:40] external program?? not sure what you mean then.... top comes with pretty much any distro afaik === 65MAAMDVJ is now known as designbybeck [23:58] hello [23:58] Sir1786: hi [23:58] mr0wl: how are you? [23:58] okay thanks