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| roaksoax | rvba: howdy!! I was wondering if you guys already have a ETA for the multiple environments storage fix? I just wanna have on idea on when we can do the SRU | 16:27 |
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| rvba | roaksoax: Hi. We just finished sketching out a plan for this. Now we're working on the code. End of next week seems like a reasonable ETA. <- allenap, what do you say? | 16:29 |
| allenap | rvba: Yeah, that sounds about right. | 16:30 |
| roaksoax | rvba: awesome, thanks! | 16:32 |
| roaksoax | rvba: so what are the reasons why trunk maas can't run in precise? | 17:04 |
| roaksoax | other than dependencies | 17:04 |
| rvba | roaksoax: there is only the dependencies issue AFAIK | 17:06 |
| rvba | The only reason we have 2 branches (trunk and 1.2) is because we added 2 new features in trunk that were considered "too much" to be SRUed. | 17:06 |
| roaksoax | rvba: which ones are those? | 17:07 |
| rvba | roaksoax: offline operation and user commissioning scripts | 17:07 |
| roaksoax | rvba: ack! thanks | 17:08 |
| rvba | np | 17:08 |
| roaksoax | rvba: and kernel params too | 17:09 |
| roaksoax | rvba: what are the dependencies that differ? | 17:10 |
| rvba | roaksoax: I think kernel params have been backported to 1.2 | 17:11 |
| roaksoax | rvba: nah | 17:11 |
| roaksoax | rvba: what are the dependencies that trunk has that make it impossible to work on precise? | 17:13 |
| rvba | roaksoax: I don't know offhand | 17:14 |
| rvba | roaksoax: 1.2 and trunk are so similar that I even wonder how the dependencies differ… | 17:14 |
| roaksoax | rvba: iirc bigjools did ssy that trunk wont eork in prrcise | 17:17 |
| roaksoax | rvba: ok this it what i'll do | 18:02 |
| roaksoax | rvba: i'll upload 1.2 to raring, then to precise-proposed and quantal-proposed before FF | 18:02 |
| roaksoax | rvba: once I do that, I'll upload trunk to raring | 18:02 |
| roaksoax | before FF | 18:02 |
| roaksoax | rvba: but then when your fix is really, will upload it to -precise-proposed and quantal-proposed | 18:02 |
| rvba | roaksoax: do we really have to upload now? | 18:03 |
| roaksoax | rvba: i', not really concerned with raring TBH | 18:04 |
| roaksoax | rvba: and the upload to -proposed will sit there for a while | 18:04 |
| roaksoax | rvba: and once it gets approved it will be there for SRU verification | 18:04 |
| roaksoax | so it is not really gonna be released right after upload | 18:05 |
| roaksoax | rvba: as far as raring, nobody will be upgrading current environments right? since raring is still in development | 18:05 |
| rvba | roaksoax: if yes, then I suggest you don't upload the last version. But instead r 1438 in trunk and r 1361 in 1.2 | 18:05 |
| roaksoax | rvba: the plan is to get multiple environments fix rather than a new feature for the SRU | 18:06 |
| rvba | Because we've changed the way the file storage works and that change will only be properly complete when the fix we're working on will be released. | 18:06 |
| roaksoax | smoser: ^^ | 18:06 |
| roaksoax | rvba: right but upgrading from 1363 to 136X should be fixed right? | 18:07 |
| rvba | roaksoax: what do you mean? | 18:08 |
| smoser | ugh. | 18:08 |
| smoser | roaksoax, unless daviey or sru team told you otherwise, just upload something to raring. its a pre-relesae snapshot. thats fine. it has bugs. | 18:08 |
| roaksoax | rvba: so if I release 1363 (1.2) to raring, then I release 136X (which contains your fix), then upgrading will fix the problem right? | 18:08 |
| smoser | whether or not we wait for the multiple-environment bug fix or not to upload to -proposed (quantal and precise) is un-related. | 18:09 |
| roaksoax | smoser: yeah that's what I'm planning to do | 18:09 |
| smoser | and i'd just upload a trunk snapshot to raring. | 18:09 |
| smoser | somethign that passed basic test. | 18:09 |
| roaksoax | smoser: i'll upload lp:maas/1.2 to raring, then to {precise,quantal}-proposed, and since it is gonna sit there for a while we'll wait for the bug to be released in trunk and update -proposed . But in the meantime, upload a trunk snapshot | 18:10 |
| roaksoax | do I make sense? | 18:10 |
| rvba | roaksoax: it will, but it you use 1363 you might encounter serious bugs. | 18:10 |
| smoser | why do you bother uploading maas/1.2 to raring ? | 18:11 |
| roaksoax | rvba: yes which is why it will be sitting in -proposed :) | 18:11 |
| smoser | ugh. | 18:11 |
| smoser | don't upload something to -proposed that we're not happy to release. | 18:11 |
| rvba | +1 | 18:12 |
| rvba | The bug we're fixing is really ugly. | 18:12 |
| smoser | but i'm do not think that this maas multi-user thing is significant. | 18:12 |
| smoser | no one is using that | 18:12 |
| smoser | and its not a regression | 18:12 |
| rvba | It is. | 18:12 |
| smoser | it is a regression from something in ubuntu ? | 18:12 |
| roaksoax | ok then I'll upload trunk to -raring | 18:13 |
| smoser | rvba, ? | 18:13 |
| roaksoax | trunk will be released as 1.3 | 18:13 |
| roaksoax | and SRU will have 1.2~bzr136X, which is nowhere in the archives | 18:13 |
| smoser | wait to see if rvba says this is a regression, but otherwise, i'm fine with that. | 18:14 |
| rvba | smoser: this is really tricky tbh. | 18:14 |
| * rvba thinks | 18:14 | |
| smoser | "tricky" isn't answering the question :) | 18:14 |
| roaksoax | if it gets rejected by the SRU team because we are backpoirting a new upstream which is nowhere in ubuntu, then we are screwed :) | 18:14 |
| rvba | smoser: That's why I need to think :) | 18:14 |
| smoser | roaksoax, honestly, if it does, then that is silly. | 18:14 |
| smoser | because, as you've suggested, there is a very stupid workaround for that process requirement. | 18:15 |
| roaksoax | smoser: well I came across a situation like that long time ago and was told "you can only backport something that is in the archive" | 18:15 |
| smoser | roaksoax, then if you want to, upload a 1.2 to raring. i'm fine with that too. | 18:15 |
| smoser | but i tihnk that it wont be a sticking issue on sru | 18:16 |
| rvba | smoser: I think it's a regression. If you have 2 users, you'll definitely see a regression. | 18:16 |
| smoser | remember, you're also not allowed to entirely new packages | 18:16 |
| smoser | or features. | 18:16 |
| smoser | rvba, you see that if you have 2 users on current quantal mas and you upgrade to 1.2 ? | 18:16 |
| smoser | is that what your'e saying ? | 18:17 |
| rvba | Yes. | 18:17 |
| smoser | if only we had unit tests | 18:17 |
| smoser | then we'd neer see bugs like this. | 18:17 |
| smoser | roaksoax, i say hold off on it then. i dont want to upload a regression to sru. | 18:17 |
| roaksoax | smoser: right but this time we got a TB exeption | 18:18 |
| smoser | but imo upload whatever you want to raring. we're already in major exception mode. | 18:18 |
| smoser | this little thing is a very minor exception. | 18:18 |
| rvba | smoser: this problem is not because of the lack of unit tests. It;s because we had to rush something to meet a crazy deadline at some point, and now we're paying the price for it. | 18:18 |
| roaksoax | i will just upload trunk to raring | 18:18 |
| smoser | and doing the dance to avoid that exception will cause you to make another exception (FFE) | 18:19 |
| roaksoax | i'll continue as suggested, upload trunk (1.3) to raring, and SRU 1.2 | 18:19 |
| smoser | roaksoax, right. but dont bother sruing without the fix for bug 11239986 | 18:20 |
| ubot5 | Error: Launchpad bug 11239986 could not be found | 18:20 |
| smoser | 1123986 | 18:20 |
| roaksoax | smoser: i won't SRU until it gets fixed | 18:20 |
| rvba | roaksoax: why don't you upload 1.2 revision 1361 and trunk revision 1438 ? | 18:20 |
| roaksoax | rvba: 1263 has IPMI fixes | 18:21 |
| roaksoax | err 1363 | 18:21 |
| rvba | The problem is only that right now, we're half way through fixing the multiple env bug. | 18:21 |
| roaksoax | and I need to make available those IPMI fixes to raring too | 18:22 |
| roaksoax | but we need tests for them | 18:22 |
| roaksoax | so that will take me couple days maybe | 18:22 |
| roaksoax | and then i'll upload trunk to raring | 18:22 |
| roaksoax | wait for your fix | 18:22 |
| roaksoax | and upload 1.2 tyo -proposed | 18:23 |
| rvba | Ok, I take it no one is using raring in prod now so it does not really matter. | 18:23 |
| roaksoax | exactly | 18:24 |
| rvba | Just don't upload the current tip of trunk or 1.2 before next week's fix to an important place :) | 18:24 |
| roaksoax | raring is fine to have bugs so raring is not really a concern | 18:25 |
| rvba | Right. | 18:25 |
| rvba | So you'll wait until next week for the other uploads right? | 18:26 |
| roaksoax | rvba: yeah | 18:30 |
| rvba | roaksoax: ok, thanks. | 18:30 |
| roaksoax | rvba: no worries :) just fix that bug i'll take care of the rest :) | 18:30 |
| rvba | roaksoax: we're on it, you can trust me. | 18:30 |
| roaksoax | i do :) | 18:32 |
| roaksoax | you've never disappointed so I'm really not concerned :) | 18:32 |
| rvba | Good :) | 18:34 |
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