[00:06] <mjrosenb> hey, does anyone know if the linux-omap4 images that ubuntu is asking me to install work with perf?
[12:25] <xnox> I just realised that adb supports full phone backup.
[12:26] <xnox> not sure how well that works with pushing apps & data from one phone to another though.
[12:26] <xnox> but whould be good enough to test phablet deploy.
[12:26] <xnox> on nexus4 that is.
[12:30] <XorA> xnox: it seems to work well in Titanium backup so should work well in other cases
[12:30] <xnox> hmm... note to self to checkout titanium backup
[19:30] <ogra_> infinity, hey, look, our new community starts producing fixes for libc ... https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/msg00637.html ...
[19:30] <ogra_> (have fun fishing them out of xda froum zips :P )
[19:45] <mosasaur> I'm still trying to play audio from inside a chroot, so far alsamixergui can control the sound volume of apps running under the android host  -- which is extremely cool by the way, since this is the first time I can increase left/right master/headphones separately -- but any apps from within the chroot are inaudible or won't even start playing.
[19:47] <ogra_> do you have /dev bindmounted ?
[19:47] <mosasaur> ogra_: yes
[19:47] <ogra_> and proc and sys too ?
[19:47] <mosasaur> yes
[19:48] <ogra_> then i would guess its a permission thing
[19:48] <mosasaur> I have chmod 777 /dev/snd
[19:49] <infinity> ogra_: Enabling debug options isn't a fix. :P
[19:49] <ogra_> hehe
[19:50] <ogra_> no, but his fix will likely end up in a similar place in a zip
[19:50] <infinity> But the bug won't be in glibc.
[19:50] <infinity> Just sayin'.
[19:50] <ogra_> tell him :)
[19:51] <ogra_> the next few months will surely be fun ...
[19:51] <infinity> Err, are our images based on quantal still? :/
[19:51] <ogra_> yes
[19:51]  * infinity notes him talking about libc-2.15.so
[19:51] <ogra_> a) we dont have the phablet packages in raring
[19:51] <ogra_> b) we need https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/client-1303-cdimage-android-builds
[19:52] <ogra_> i gues we'll start raring images around april
[19:52] <infinity> Anyhow.  I don't see him claiming it's a libc bug either.  It's just that turning on IO_DEBUG allows libc to trap the bug he has elsewhere.
[19:54] <ogra_> haha, and there is an infinity553 in #ubuntu-touch
[19:55] <ogra_> i wonder if xnox' xchat fix would catch that
[20:11] <ogra_> xnox, how about a usb-creator -> phablet-flash spec ?
[21:23] <xnox> ogra_: sure go ahead.
[21:24] <xnox> ogra_: you can even dishout assignee to be me.
[21:24] <xnox> ogra_: not sure about xchat catching that ;-)
[21:24] <ogra_> not tonight anymore, but i'll add it over the weekend
[21:24] <xnox> kk.
[21:24] <ogra_> haha
[21:24]  * ogra_ goes to watch wok racing on tv now
[21:48] <lilstevie> ogra_, haha welcome to the world of xda/android, where if it isn't in a .zip it isn't good enough
[21:48] <ogra_> heh, yeah
[21:49] <lilstevie> it is going to make the lists painful
[21:50] <lilstevie> (the influx of android "devs)
[21:50] <ogra_> well, its seemingly our new part of the community
[21:51] <lilstevie> and I do use that term liberally
[21:51] <ogra_> so we'll have to live with it
[21:51] <ogra_> yeah, there is already a thread about overclocking and replacing the bootloago with a running mario on the list
[21:51] <ogra_> (in the same mail)
[21:52] <lilstevie> heh
[21:52] <lilstevie> not surprised in the slightest
[21:53] <ogra_> it gives a good impression of what to expect i think
[21:53] <lilstevie> yeah
[21:55] <lilstevie> it is a good window into what the modding community will be like post release too
[21:55] <lilstevie> and of what google currently deal with on their own lists
[21:56] <ogra_> yeah
[21:56] <ogra_> well, you get what you asked for i guess
[21:57] <lilstevie> heh
[21:57] <lilstevie> it is a delicate balance really
[22:00] <lilstevie> I love how the mailing list is resembling a forum at the moment
[22:27] <wookey> what's wrong with android devs? are they all clueless?
[22:28] <wookey> or all use windows? Or both :-)
[22:32] <ogra_> heh, they are young, bear with them :)
[22:32] <lilstevie> wookey, the common name for these devs is "winzip devs" cause the extent of their dev'ing is that they used winzip removed extra apks, added a few others, and then release it as their own creation
[23:19] <wookey> aha. wel I just got apt built for arm64. generating a new rootfs now...
[23:20] <wookey> an image with apt in it and working networking is suddenly a lot more useful...
[23:20] <lilstevie> :o do you have an arm64 device?
[23:20] <wookey> nope - there are none. only models
[23:20] <wookey> and I didn't run that till last week
[23:21] <wookey> you can work on an arch for 2 years without actually _running_ any native code :-)
[23:22] <lilstevie> heh
[23:22] <ogra_> he imagines an arm64 device and then builds on it :)
[23:23] <lilstevie> heh
[23:24] <stgraber> and people used to complain they had to wait years to get Linux support for thei hardware. Now they have to wait years for the hardware that Linux supports to actually exists ;)
[23:25] <ogra_> yeah :)
[23:25]  * lilstevie wants an arm64 device yesterday
[23:25] <ogra_> easy ...
[23:26] <lilstevie> lol
[23:26] <ogra_> if you want it yesterday you have to invent time traveling anyway so you can travell to wookey's house to next year, pick it up and go back to yesterday
[23:26] <lilstevie> that does sound easy
[23:26] <ogra_> yeah, totally trivial
[23:27] <lilstevie> in 20 years when I finish inventing the time travel machine I will just send it back to today
[23:27] <ogra_> http://www.amazon.com/Back-Future-Capacitor-Replica-Unlimited/dp/B001M5PTQM
[23:27] <ogra_> just needs the peripherials
[23:28] <wookey> I had to do some nsty hackery on curl. first real bodge in the whole bootstrap, but I decided I was in a hurry :-)
[23:28] <wookey> oh and nss is evil. Did I complain about that already? yuk.
[23:29] <wookey> why do we need 6 different ssl implmentations anyway?
[23:29] <wookey>  (curl supports 6 and build-deps on 3)
[23:30] <lilstevie> wookey, because 5 wasn't good enough