[03:09] <Peet> Hello. Can I ask an install question here please?
[03:10] <Peet> I just installed Unbuntu 12.04 from the live CD. The install said it was successful. After the first reboot though, it tries to start from the HD but I just see a flashing cursor in the upper left corner. No GRUB
[03:11] <Peet> No nothing.  Any ideas on where I can start?
[03:12] <holstein> Peet: try booting the live CD
[03:12] <Peet> Yep, that works fine. Then what?
[03:13] <Peet> If it helps any, I installed ubunut onto a clean, brand new HDD
[03:13] <holstein> Peet: test the hard drive.. maybe its bad
[03:16] <Unit193> It's not an EFI system is it?  And the Grub menu doesn't normally pull up on a single boot system.
[03:17] <Peet> Unit193: Sorry, what do you mean by EFI?    It's a Toshiba Satellite laptop from 2006.
[03:17] <Unit193> Then not EFI.
[03:17] <Peet> That helps me as far as Grub, thanks
[03:17] <Peet> Ok, I see
[03:18] <Peet> If the install went all the way through, is there still a chance the CD I installed from is bad?
[03:18] <Peet> I was thinking of maybe creating another CD-R
[03:23] <holstein> Peet: you can test the CD
[03:24] <Peet> Good point. I did run it as the Live part on a nother PC here and that works fine. Connect to the net from there, etc...
[03:24] <Peet> You mentioned testing the HDD. Is there a tool for that or did you just mean connect it to another PC and read its contents?
[03:25] <holstein> i use the ultimate boot cd...
[03:30] <Peet> holstein: thanks. reading about it now ...
[04:58] <vastkahuna> I have compiz installed on my system, how do I get it to work?
[04:59] <holstein> vastkahuna: what system?
[04:59] <vastkahuna> Ubuntu 12.10
[04:59] <holstein> vastkahuna: ubuntu just ships it... so its just working, or should be.. are you on xubuntu?
[05:00] <vastkahuna> I'm on just regular ubuntu, but I don't see it doing anything fancy like I was expecting
[05:01] <holstein> vastkahuna: its not like that anymore..
[05:01] <vastkahuna> Do I have to go into it and enable certain things?
[05:02] <holstein> vastkahuna: you dont have to, but you can.. just nail down what certain things you want
[05:02] <vastkahuna> Where do I go and how do I do it?
[05:02] <holstein> vastkahuna: do what?
[05:03] <vastkahuna> Open the settings and change them
[05:03] <holstein> vastkahuna: unity is not all that customizable.. what are you wanting to change?
[05:04] <vastkahuna> I just want to see the different effects like it does when you open your browser or a new window
[05:08] <krytarik> Just install CompizConfig Settings Manger, fire it up, and go to "Effects -> Animations".
[05:11] <vastkahuna> Can I do that in the terminal or where?
[05:13] <krytarik> Either run "sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager", or use the Software Center to install CCSM.
[05:14] <krytarik> After that, run it from the Dash, or from the menu, depending on what session you are using.
[05:17] <vastkahuna> http://pastebin.com/xCBFYnck
[05:18] <vastkahuna> I just tried it in the terminal but I'm not sure if it's telling me it's ready or what
[05:19] <krytarik> Alright, go for the Dash/menu now.
[05:20] <vastkahuna> And what do I put in to open it?
[05:20] <krytarik> "CCSM", for example.
[05:21] <krytarik> Now what session are you using actually?
[05:22] <krytarik> ^^ That was for the Dash in Unity or under Gnome Shell, alternatively just start typing "Compiz...".
[05:23] <vastkahuna> I'm not sure what you mean by session, I'm in ubuntu 12.10 and I'm using Firefox if that's what you mean
[05:24] <vastkahuna> I have the menu open for CCSM but I'm not sure how to enable the different effects
[05:25] <krytarik> Like I said, what you mentioned is under "Effects -> Animations".
[05:26] <krytarik> Also, you may want to install the package "compiz-plugins" to get even more options.
[05:27] <vastkahuna> So sudo apt-get compiz-plugins in the terminal?
[05:28] <krytarik> Plus "install" after "apt-get", yes.
[05:30] <vastkahuna> Now do I have to close and re-open CCSM for these to take efffect or reboot or anything like that?
[05:31] <krytarik> You should better just relogin, yes.
[05:36] <krytarik> vastkahuna, can you please run this command and tell me the output? It would show the name of the session you are using. -> "echo $DESKTOP_SESSION"
[05:38] <krytarik> Not that you are using a session where Compiz isn't actually used, like Gnome Shell or Gnome Classic w/o Effects. :P
[05:41] <vastkahuna> It didn't seem to do anything
[05:41] <krytarik> Run in the Terminal?
[05:41] <vastkahuna> http://pastebin.com/
[05:42] <krytarik> Wrong URL. :P
[05:45] <vastkahuna> So re-enter echo $DESKTOP_SESSION  in the terminal?
[05:45] <krytarik> Yes.
[05:45] <krytarik> Make sure you don't misspell it.
[05:49] <krytarik> What happened, vastkahuna?
[05:50] <krytarik> ^^ vastkahuna_
[05:52] <vastkahuna_> It didn't seem to do anything
[05:53] <krytarik> Now I actually meant why you needed to relogin to IRC. :)
[05:53] <krytarik> Doesn't the command output a session name? It should.
[05:53] <vastkahuna_> My browser seemed to freeze
[05:54] <krytarik> Aha, already thought something like that.
[05:56] <vastkahuna_> I was trying to send you the link from pastebin but that page seems to be messedup, I can't find the link at the top of that pge
[05:56] <krytarik> You aren't possibly using something like Cinnamon, are you?
[05:57] <vastkahuna_> No just standard ubuntu 12.10 and whatever that uses
[05:57] <krytarik> The pure default then, yes?
[05:58] <vastkahuna_> Yes
[05:58] <krytarik> That would be Unity then, and the output should be "ubuntu" - isn't it?
[05:58] <vastkahuna> Yes
[05:59] <krytarik> Oki doki. :)
[05:59] <krytarik> Compiz is used then.
[06:00] <krytarik> Have fun with playing with its settings then, but don't break it! :P
[06:01] <vastkahuna_> Something weird just happened, my search bars are missing from the top of my browser page
[06:03] <vastkahuna_> OK it's back now
[06:03] <krytarik> Ok, was going to say: right-click somewhere besides the tabs and re-enable "Navigation Toolbar". :)
[06:04] <krytarik> Btw, you may want to use something like XChat when chatting that often on IRC. :)
[06:05] <krytarik> I.e. the webchat interface is rather ugly and misses a lot of features.
[06:05] <vastkahuna_> Yeah, now in CCSM I have the effects and animations open, so just check the boxes under random effects?
[06:06]  * krytarik looks
[06:07] <vastkahuna_> OK thanks
[06:07] <krytarik> No, that's really only for if you set "Random" as the effect for something on the list above that.
[06:09] <krytarik> For example, I have the first on the list under "Open Animation" set to "Glide 2".
[06:10] <krytarik> Click on the entry you want to edit, then below the list, click on "Edit".
[06:11] <vastkahuna_> That seems to be the standard setting because mine is like that too but I don't see any special effects when I open my browser or a new window
[06:12] <krytarik> Yeah, might be, but I think I have lowered the duration - to what is it set there? I have mine on 80.
[06:13] <vastkahuna_> Glide 2 on mine is at 120
[06:14] <vastkahuna_> Fade is at 80
[06:15] <krytarik> Now that you mention it, it doesn't work here either (Lucid 10.04), and I remember there is a bug report about that somewhere.
[06:17] <krytarik> So sorry, I guess you can forget about that for now. :|
[06:17] <vastkahuna_> I was reading on it somewhere before I logged in here and they think it has to do with unity, maybe disabling something there first?
[06:18] <krytarik> Most other animations should work tough, just not the "Open Animation".
[06:19] <krytarik> As I mentioned, I'm using Lucid 10.04, way before Unity as it is now started to exist. :P
[06:19] <vastkahuna_> I don't know but it doesn't seem to do anything, it's just regular
[06:19] <krytarik> Yep, just pops up.
[06:20] <vastkahuna_> I have a question about something else
[06:20] <krytarik> Then shoot! :)
[06:21]  * krytarik searches for that bug report
[06:22] <vastkahuna_> I installed ubuntu restricted extras to fix flash and my dvd movie player, it fixed flash but the codecs must be missing for the dvd
[06:23] <krytarik> !dvd
[06:23] <ubot93> Ubuntu's default installation and repositories do not include packages needed to play commercial DVDs for legal reasons. For information on adding them, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs | For information on the legalities involved, see the "DVD" section of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:23] <krytarik> Check out that ^^ too then.
[06:25] <vastkahuna_> Yeah  I was looking at that but it didn't seem to help, why do they make it so hard?
[06:26] <krytarik> I'm not playing DVDs myself, so I can't really help with that, sorry.
[06:27] <vastkahuna_> OK thanks
[06:27] <vastkahuna_> Bye
[06:27] <krytarik> Bye.
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[07:53] <r4y> I am having trouble with my mp3 player. I am not sure if I did safe removeable or not, but it will not mount. It's an RCA mp3 player model number th1814wm-a
[07:53] <r4y> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5575630/
[07:53] <r4y> http://imagebin.org/248545
[07:53] <r4y> http://imagebin.org/248546
[07:53] <r4y> http://imagebin.org/248547
[07:56] <r4y> It still plays the music that is on it. And Windows XP says it is in mtp mode and if I remember right it is supposed to be in msc mode, but I don't know how to change it's mode. I tried formatting it but it can't be formatted and there is no mount point and I tried flashing the firmware with an exe file rca supplied. I should say I 2 different ones that they supplied, one of which I have...
[07:56] <r4y> ...used before to fix this mp3 player before.
[07:57] <r4y> It's cheap, but we are pinching our pennies right now
[08:01] <r4y> To get the photos and info from the terminal I had to connect this mp3 player over and over and over each time removing the battery to turn it off, because it stops being under /dev/bus/usb/001
[08:21] <r4y> I found this:
[08:21] <r4y> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1551985.html
[08:21] <r4y> How can I use what they said to do at the bottom of that thread?, and should I try it?
[08:23] <r4y> Am I supposed to create this file /etc/usb_modeswitch.conf?, because I don't see it there, or is that a file that has to downloaded from the link given at the bottom of that thread?
[08:26] <r4y> I guess the downloadable file was only of the logging that person did
[08:28] <krytarik> A quick web search indicates that you can just create that file there and enter that setting.
[08:30] <r4y> ah, I will try then
[08:34] <r4y> O well, it was worth a shot. TY for trying
[08:35] <krytarik> I barely just googled for you :P - didn't work then apparently?
[08:36] <r4y> I don't think so
[08:37] <krytarik> Did you reboot after putting that file in place? If not, I think you should do so.
[08:37] <r4y> I also tried changing it and adding EnableLogging=1, but I don't know where the info for logging would be put into
[08:38] <r4y> OK, I change it and do so just in case
[08:38] <r4y> I will be back
[08:44] <r4y> I didn't work. I is it supposed to be DisableSwitching=1
[08:45] <r4y> I would guess not assuming 1=true and 0=false
[08:46] <krytarik> Too bad. Reg. the log file, it should pop up directly under "/var/log", according to this page - there is way more info there too: http://www.draisberghof.de/usb_modeswitch/#trouble
[08:49] <r4y> I should read this, so I bookmarked it and I will change DisableSwitching=1 to DisableSwitching=0and enable debugging as well then I will have to reboot then get the info from the log file
[08:49] <r4y> I will be back
[08:50] <krytarik> Ok.
[08:50] <r4y> Are those the only 2 lines needed? because I am a newbie sort of
[08:51] <r4y> I mean I am not a dev of coarse and I haven't messed with scripting and so forth
[08:52] <r4y> Just plain, right?
[08:52] <krytarik> Yeah, I've seen an example file in a forums post, the rest was all outcommented stuff.
[08:52] <r4y> DisableSwitching=0 enter next line EnableLogging=1
[08:52] <krytarik> Yes, just plain text.
[08:52] <r4y> OK
[08:52] <r4y> I will be back
[08:57] <r4y> There is no log
[08:57] <r4y> was this what this line should read DisableSwitching=0
[08:59] <krytarik> What version of Ubuntu are you using then?
[08:59] <r4y> 10.04
[08:59] <r4y> Am I supposed to run a command for this?
[09:00] <r4y> Ah, I haven't read that link yet
[09:01] <krytarik> No, I just have checked whether that config should be there by default in your version of Ubuntu - in Lucid 10.04 not.
[09:03] <r4y> Automatic serial driver assignment will work with the 3G-optimized driver only for kernels from 2.6.27 and up
[09:05] <krytarik> Btw, the example file content I was referring to is here: http://www.draisberghof.de/usb_modeswitch/bb/viewtopic.php?p=5815&sid=d6747e6f86292dc1e0e1ea436633e561#p5815
[09:07] <r4y> So then it should work for this kernel I think after checking synaptic package manager
[09:08] <r4y> Header files related to Linux kernel version 2.6.32 and that is what I remember to be a lower number
[09:08] <krytarik> You know, you should try with the Live CD of a current version of Ubuntu if 1.) your original issue exists, and 2.) that workaround works.
[09:09] <r4y> Would I need to install extra packages?
[09:09] <r4y> updates
[09:09] <krytarik> Since the version of that tool provided via the Lucid 10.04 is considerably older too.
[09:10] <r4y> Well couldn't I try Ubuntu 12.04 virtaully for this?
[09:10] <krytarik> Also, Lucid's End of Life is in April this year anyway.
[09:10] <r4y> I know
[09:10] <r4y> But I am not switching
[09:11] <r4y> in a calm tone
[09:12] <krytarik> Well, I will upgrade to Precise 12.04 any time soon - I'm currently still on Lucid too. :)
[09:13] <r4y> I tried it but to each their own
[09:14] <krytarik> Reg. the Virtual Machine thing, I don't think that it would go that deep, hardware control-wise, but I don't really know.
[09:14] <r4y> I still haven't tried the OSes Unit193 suggested to try out which I have downloaded, but I am going
[09:14] <r4y> to
[09:14] <krytarik> It's not that you have to live with the default "Ubuntu" setup, you know. :)
[09:14] <r4y> kubuntu, lubuntu and xubuntu
[09:15] <r4y> I know
[09:15] <r4y> I want to myself out there and try debian but I am afraid
[09:15] <krytarik> You should definitely have a look at Xubuntu, I was quite impressed when I played with it thoroughly just recently. :)
[09:16] <krytarik> You can simply run any Ubuntu ISO through Grub2, you know?
[09:17] <r4y> I still haven't tried other linux oses on this motherboard because I had tried some other gnome off shoots of Ubuntu for pleasing gnome fans whichI didn't like
[09:17] <r4y> grub2, what?, I mean Idon't like installing and messing up another install
[09:18] <r4y> I still to one install per hard drive just in case
[09:18] <krytarik> Grub2 is the boot loader.
[09:18] <r4y> I told you I am sort of a newbie
[09:19] <r4y> I've been using Ubuntu since gutsy
[09:19] <r4y> but I lack a lot
[09:19] <krytarik> I.e. you put the ISO somewhere on your HDD, add an entry for it to the Grub2 menu, and then you can boot directly into it.
[09:20] <krytarik> Sec., grabbing for a link.
[09:20] <r4y> What, that's cool
[09:21] <krytarik> There: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1549847
[09:22] <krytarik> Yeah, indeed, that way I'm running any sorts of current Ubuntu ISO without ever having to burn a CD/DVD. :)
[09:22] <r4y> I like not having to install a program but that is great as well
[09:24] <krytarik> Grub2 is the default boot loader of Lucid 10.04 as well.
[09:26] <r4y> So the path should be under the filesystem?, not home
[09:27] <r4y> O
[09:27] <r4y> I mean I was wrong I guess
[09:28] <krytarik> You mean for the config file? Yes.
[09:28] <krytarik> As well as the log file.
[09:28] <r4y> I like to use this command gksudo nautilus when messing with the filesystem. It just makes things easier for me
[09:30] <krytarik> Yeah, but not always necessary, sometimes it's easier to just use "sudo nano <file>" for just editing files, for example.
[09:31] <r4y> I am a little lost and I need to use the bathroom and get water, sorry, I need to read this some more as well
[09:31] <krytarik> Yeah, I should go to bed as well, so... :)
[09:31] <r4y> Sorry for speaking so soon hear
[09:32] <r4y> TY for this info but it will take me a little to put it together. I haven't messed with the grub menu I don't think
[09:32] <krytarik> It's 10:32 AM here already, so.. - I'm just a little weird in that. :P
[09:33] <r4y> I am a crazy late night personas well
[09:33] <r4y> Take care, and ty
[09:33] <krytarik> Yeah, take your time. There is also this, if you want to know more: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[09:34] <r4y> TY, that should help me
[09:34] <krytarik> You are welcome. :)
[09:34] <r4y> TY for trying to help me
[09:35] <krytarik> And good luck with your original issue.
[09:35] <r4y> This mp3 player is driving me nuts, but I know I need to get a better one
[09:35] <r4y> and I've been to the channel rockbox
[09:36] <r4y> I Just don't have the money yet for it
[09:36] <r4y> Things are some what tight here, but I am happy
[09:36] <r4y> TY again
[09:36] <krytarik> Yup. :)
[09:36] <r4y> Ya, I may never get it fixed, but what ever
[09:37] <Guest41676> Hi
[09:37] <r4y> Hi
[09:37] <Guest41676> I am new to Ubuntu and have a problem
[09:37] <Guest41676> I installed 12.10 inside VirtualBox running on Windows 7
[09:38] <r4y> There is also the ubuntu channel as well as this channel just in case
[09:38] <Guest41676> It wend well until the first real boot. The system booted but I did not get any prompt/loging window
[09:38] <Guest41676> Nothing
[09:38] <Guest41676> Can anybody help?
[09:39] <r4y> I can't, I am sorry, but maybe someone else here can help, I am just a visitor
[09:39] <r4y> There is this channel as well #ubuntu
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[15:15] <r4y> Hello, can someone help me add an entry to the grub 2 menu?
[15:15] <r4y> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5576527/
[15:17] <r4y> Disk Utility says /dev/sda, is it still supposed to be the way I posted it in pastebin if it is sda?
[15:17] <r4y> Someone gave me this link:
[15:17] <r4y> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1549847
[15:18] <r4y> I think that person's nick started with a k, anyways
[15:20] <r4y> I think the answer is yes
[15:21] <r4y> does hd0,1 remain as hd0,1 or should it be changed
[15:34] <r4y> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5576579/
[15:35] <r4y> I want to understand better what is sda1 and sda2 and sda5 for?, is one for home and one for the filesystem, please make this clear to me
[15:35] <r4y> Anyone?
[15:36] <r4y> Give me my daily Linux bread, lol
[15:36] <r4y> Don't over feed me though
[15:37] <r4y> I forgot got to say pretty please
[15:39] <r4y> I should say that the help I've been given here has been very nice and I want to thank all the people here for the help you give us
[15:44] <r4y> I need to sleep, so I will keep this open in hopes that someone will answer what I have asked.
[15:54] <r4y> I didn't have chatzilla logging, so now I can go to sleep. Any help with my simple questions would really help me in strides. Sorry for any past trouble. TY all for the help over the years
[16:05] <r4y> I wasn't referring to the questions I had regarding my mp3 player, just the questions regarding adding an iso file to the grub 2 menu entrie and what sda1, sda2 and sda5 stand for. I forgot home is under the filesystem, duh, so then never mind that question
[16:07] <r4y> Is this right?, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5576527/ or hd0,1 is supposed to be different http://paste.ubuntu.com/5576579/
[16:12] <r4y> Sorry, in part it is too much coffee and lack of sleep. I am not a social person, so I lack thinking before I speak and ramble. What's great about the Ubuntu forums for instance is that we can edit what we have written to take out spelling errors and ramblings. Anyways, sorry again
[16:13] <r4y> I will be logging this so I can sleep
[21:57] <alexitc_> is anyone here knowledgable?
[21:59] <alexitc_> is anyone here alive?
[22:00] <alexitc_> shadeslayer r u here?
[22:28] <alexitc_> anyone here?
[22:29] <Unit193> !ask | alexitc_
[22:29] <ubot93> alexitc_: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience
[22:30] <alexitc_> i cant find the mount point for my external dvd drive. how can i find that out?
[22:32] <Unit193> /dev/sr0 is a standard one.
[22:32] <Unit193> !mount
[22:32] <ubot93> mount is used to attach devices to directories. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount
[22:34] <alexitc_> cant find /dev/sr0 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[22:43] <alexitc_> am i never gonna be able to mount a cd or dvd drive?
[23:29] <cerebrate> Peace yall.  may i have guidance into making a practical script to keep my touchpad i dont need or want from activating through the software
[23:32] <krytarik> How about this?: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad#Completely_disabling_Touchpad
[23:35] <cerebrate> it varies with the necessary change of login devices attached to my computer krytarik
[23:35] <cerebrate> plus i want it automated
[23:35] <cerebrate> i guess i should read the friendly manpage or something
[23:35] <cerebrate> oh yeah you proved satisfactory :D
[23:35] <krytarik> :)
[23:37] <cerebrate> dissatisfactory implimenting due to use of lubuntu instead of less modified ubuntu variants :/
[23:38] <cerebrate> atareao not found in commands
[23:38] <cerebrate> atareao not found in accessories list
[23:40] <krytarik> You'd have to install it from its PPA first, with the commands provided there.
[23:41] <cerebrate> apparently touchpad functionality disabled :D
[23:41] <cerebrate> tyvm ^3^
[23:41] <krytarik> You are welcome. :)
[23:55] <r4y> krytarik 	Is this right?, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5576527/ or hd0,1 is supposed to be different http://paste.ubuntu.com/5576579/
[23:57]  * krytarik looks
[23:58] <krytarik> Looks fine to me.