[03:09] <Peet> Hello. Can I ask an install question here please?
[03:10] <Peet> I just installed Unbuntu 12.04 from the live CD. The install said it was successful. After the first reboot though, it tries to start from the HD but I just see a flashing cursor in the upper left corner. No GRUB
[03:11] <Peet> No nothing.  Any ideas on where I can start?
[03:12] <holstein> Peet: try booting the live CD
[03:12] <Peet> Yep, that works fine. Then what?
[03:13] <Peet> If it helps any, I installed ubunut onto a clean, brand new HDD
[03:13] <holstein> Peet: test the hard drive.. maybe its bad
[03:16] <Unit193> It's not an EFI system is it?  And the Grub menu doesn't normally pull up on a single boot system.
[03:17] <Peet> Unit193: Sorry, what do you mean by EFI?    It's a Toshiba Satellite laptop from 2006.
[03:17] <Unit193> Then not EFI.
[03:17] <Peet> That helps me as far as Grub, thanks
[03:17] <Peet> Ok, I see
[03:18] <Peet> If the install went all the way through, is there still a chance the CD I installed from is bad?
[03:18] <Peet> I was thinking of maybe creating another CD-R
[03:23] <holstein> Peet: you can test the CD
[03:24] <Peet> Good point. I did run it as the Live part on a nother PC here and that works fine. Connect to the net from there, etc...
[03:24] <Peet> You mentioned testing the HDD. Is there a tool for that or did you just mean connect it to another PC and read its contents?
[03:25] <holstein> i use the ultimate boot cd...
[03:30] <Peet> holstein: thanks. reading about it now ...
[04:58] <vastkahuna> I have compiz installed on my system, how do I get it to work?
[04:59] <holstein> vastkahuna: what system?
[04:59] <vastkahuna> Ubuntu 12.10
[04:59] <holstein> vastkahuna: ubuntu just ships it... so its just working, or should be.. are you on xubuntu?
[05:00] <vastkahuna> I'm on just regular ubuntu, but I don't see it doing anything fancy like I was expecting
[05:01] <holstein> vastkahuna: its not like that anymore..
[05:01] <vastkahuna> Do I have to go into it and enable certain things?
[05:02] <holstein> vastkahuna: you dont have to, but you can.. just nail down what certain things you want
[05:02] <vastkahuna> Where do I go and how do I do it?
[05:02] <holstein> vastkahuna: do what?
[05:03] <vastkahuna> Open the settings and change them
[05:03] <holstein> vastkahuna: unity is not all that customizable.. what are you wanting to change?
[05:04] <vastkahuna> I just want to see the different effects like it does when you open your browser or a new window
[05:08] <krytarik> Just install CompizConfig Settings Manger, fire it up, and go to "Effects -> Animations".
[05:11] <vastkahuna> Can I do that in the terminal or where?
[05:13] <krytarik> Either run "sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager", or use the Software Center to install CCSM.
[05:14] <krytarik> After that, run it from the Dash, or from the menu, depending on what session you are using.
[05:17] <vastkahuna> http://pastebin.com/xCBFYnck
[05:18] <vastkahuna> I just tried it in the terminal but I'm not sure if it's telling me it's ready or what
[05:19] <krytarik> Alright, go for the Dash/menu now.
[05:20] <vastkahuna> And what do I put in to open it?
[05:20] <krytarik> "CCSM", for example.
[05:21] <krytarik> Now what session are you using actually?
[05:22] <krytarik> ^^ That was for the Dash in Unity or under Gnome Shell, alternatively just start typing "Compiz...".
[05:23] <vastkahuna> I'm not sure what you mean by session, I'm in ubuntu 12.10 and I'm using Firefox if that's what you mean
[05:24] <vastkahuna> I have the menu open for CCSM but I'm not sure how to enable the different effects
[05:25] <krytarik> Like I said, what you mentioned is under "Effects -> Animations".
[05:26] <krytarik> Also, you may want to install the package "compiz-plugins" to get even more options.
[05:27] <vastkahuna> So sudo apt-get compiz-plugins in the terminal?
[05:28] <krytarik> Plus "install" after "apt-get", yes.
[05:30] <vastkahuna> Now do I have to close and re-open CCSM for these to take efffect or reboot or anything like that?
[05:31] <krytarik> You should better just relogin, yes.
[05:36] <krytarik> vastkahuna, can you please run this command and tell me the output? It would show the name of the session you are using. -> "echo $DESKTOP_SESSION"
[05:38] <krytarik> Not that you are using a session where Compiz isn't actually used, like Gnome Shell or Gnome Classic w/o Effects. :P
[05:41] <vastkahuna> It didn't seem to do anything
[05:41] <krytarik> Run in the Terminal?
[05:41] <vastkahuna> http://pastebin.com/
[05:42] <krytarik> Wrong URL. :P
[05:45] <vastkahuna> So re-enter echo $DESKTOP_SESSION  in the terminal?
[05:45] <krytarik> Yes.
[05:45] <krytarik> Make sure you don't misspell it.
[05:49] <krytarik> What happened, vastkahuna?
[05:50] <krytarik> ^^ vastkahuna_
[05:52] <vastkahuna_> It didn't seem to do anything
[05:53] <krytarik> Now I actually meant why you needed to relogin to IRC. :)
[05:53] <krytarik> Doesn't the command output a session name? It should.
[05:53] <vastkahuna_> My browser seemed to freeze
[05:54] <krytarik> Aha, already thought something like that.
[05:56] <vastkahuna_> I was trying to send you the link from pastebin but that page seems to be messedup, I can't find the link at the top of that pge
[05:56] <krytarik> You aren't possibly using something like Cinnamon, are you?
[05:57] <vastkahuna_> No just standard ubuntu 12.10 and whatever that uses
[05:57] <krytarik> The pure default then, yes?
[05:58] <vastkahuna_> Yes
[05:58] <krytarik> That would be Unity then, and the output should be "ubuntu" - isn't it?
[05:58] <vastkahuna> Yes
[05:59] <krytarik> Oki doki. :)
[05:59] <krytarik> Compiz is used then.
[06:00] <krytarik> Have fun with playing with its settings then, but don't break it! :P
[06:01] <vastkahuna_> Something weird just happened, my search bars are missing from the top of my browser page
[06:03] <vastkahuna_> OK it's back now
[06:03] <krytarik> Ok, was going to say: right-click somewhere besides the tabs and re-enable "Navigation Toolbar". :)
[06:04] <krytarik> Btw, you may want to use something like XChat when chatting that often on IRC. :)
[06:05] <krytarik> I.e. the webchat interface is rather ugly and misses a lot of features.
[06:05] <vastkahuna_> Yeah, now in CCSM I have the effects and animations open, so just check the boxes under random effects?
[06:06]  * krytarik looks
[06:07] <vastkahuna_> OK thanks
[06:07] <krytarik> No, that's really only for if you set "Random" as the effect for something on the list above that.
[06:09] <krytarik> For example, I have the first on the list under "Open Animation" set to "Glide 2".
[06:10] <krytarik> Click on the entry you want to edit, then below the list, click on "Edit".
[06:11] <vastkahuna_> That seems to be the standard setting because mine is like that too but I don't see any special effects when I open my browser or a new window
[06:12] <krytarik> Yeah, might be, but I think I have lowered the duration - to what is it set there? I have mine on 80.
[06:13] <vastkahuna_> Glide 2 on mine is at 120
[06:14] <vastkahuna_> Fade is at 80
[06:15] <krytarik> Now that you mention it, it doesn't work here either (Lucid 10.04), and I remember there is a bug report about that somewhere.
[06:17] <krytarik> So sorry, I guess you can forget about that for now. :|
[06:17] <vastkahuna_> I was reading on it somewhere before I logged in here and they think it has to do with unity, maybe disabling something there first?
[06:18] <krytarik> Most other animations should work tough, just not the "Open Animation".
[06:19] <krytarik> As I mentioned, I'm using Lucid 10.04, way before Unity as it is now started to exist. :P
[06:19] <vastkahuna_> I don't know but it doesn't seem to do anything, it's just regular
[06:19] <krytarik> Yep, just pops up.
[06:20] <vastkahuna_> I have a question about something else
[06:20] <krytarik> Then shoot! :)
[06:21]  * krytarik searches for that bug report
[06:22] <vastkahuna_> I installed ubuntu restricted extras to fix flash and my dvd movie player, it fixed flash but the codecs must be missing for the dvd
[06:23] <krytarik> !dvd
[06:23] <krytarik> Check out that ^^ too then.
[06:25] <vastkahuna_> Yeah  I was looking at that but it didn't seem to help, why do they make it so hard?
[06:26] <krytarik> I'm not playing DVDs myself, so I can't really help with that, sorry.
[06:27] <vastkahuna_> OK thanks
[06:27] <vastkahuna_> Bye
[06:27] <krytarik> Bye.
[07:53] <r4y> I am having trouble with my mp3 player. I am not sure if I did safe removeable or not, but it will not mount. It's an RCA mp3 player model number th1814wm-a
[07:53] <r4y> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5575630/
[07:53] <r4y> http://imagebin.org/248545
[07:53] <r4y> http://imagebin.org/248546
[07:53] <r4y> http://imagebin.org/248547
[07:56] <r4y> It still plays the music that is on it. And Windows XP says it is in mtp mode and if I remember right it is supposed to be in msc mode, but I don't know how to change it's mode. I tried formatting it but it can't be formatted and there is no mount point and I tried flashing the firmware with an exe file rca supplied. I should say I 2 different ones that they supplied, one of which I have...
[07:56] <r4y> ...used before to fix this mp3 player before.
[07:57] <r4y> It's cheap, but we are pinching our pennies right now
[08:01] <r4y> To get the photos and info from the terminal I had to connect this mp3 player over and over and over each time removing the battery to turn it off, because it stops being under /dev/bus/usb/001
[08:21] <r4y> I found this:
[08:21] <r4y> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1551985.html
[08:21] <r4y> How can I use what they said to do at the bottom of that thread?, and should I try it?
[08:23] <r4y> Am I supposed to create this file /etc/usb_modeswitch.conf?, because I don't see it there, or is that a file that has to downloaded from the link given at the bottom of that thread?
[08:26] <r4y> I guess the downloadable file was only of the logging that person did
[08:28] <krytarik> A quick web search indicates that you can just create that file there and enter that setting.
[08:30] <r4y> ah, I will try then
[08:34] <r4y> O well, it was worth a shot. TY for trying
[08:35] <krytarik> I barely just googled for you :P - didn't work then apparently?
[08:36] <r4y> I don't think so
[08:37] <krytarik> Did you reboot after putting that file in place? If not, I think you should do so.
[08:37] <r4y> I also tried changing it and adding EnableLogging=1, but I don't know where the info for logging would be put into
[08:38] <r4y> OK, I change it and do so just in case
[08:38] <r4y> I will be back
[08:44] <r4y> I didn't work. I is it supposed to be DisableSwitching=1
[08:45] <r4y> I would guess not assuming 1=true and 0=false
[08:46] <krytarik> Too bad. Reg. the log file, it should pop up directly under "/var/log", according to this page - there is way more info there too: http://www.draisberghof.de/usb_modeswitch/#trouble
[08:49] <r4y> I should read this, so I bookmarked it and I will change DisableSwitching=1 to DisableSwitching=0and enable debugging as well then I will have to reboot then get the info from the log file
[08:49] <r4y> I will be back
[08:50] <krytarik> Ok.
[08:50] <r4y> Are those the only 2 lines needed? because I am a newbie sort of
[08:51] <r4y> I mean I am not a dev of coarse and I haven't messed with scripting and so forth
[08:52] <r4y> Just plain, right?
[08:52] <krytarik> Yeah, I've seen an example file in a forums post, the rest was all outcommented stuff.
[08:52] <r4y> DisableSwitching=0 enter next line EnableLogging=1
[08:52] <krytarik> Yes, just plain text.
[08:52] <r4y> OK
[08:52] <r4y> I will be back
[08:57] <r4y> There is no log
[08:57] <r4y> was this what this line should read DisableSwitching=0
[08:59] <krytarik> What version of Ubuntu are you using then?
[08:59] <r4y> 10.04
[08:59] <r4y> Am I supposed to run a command for this?
[09:00] <r4y> Ah, I haven't read that link yet
[09:01] <krytarik> No, I just have checked whether that config should be there by default in your version of Ubuntu - in Lucid 10.04 not.
[09:03] <r4y> Automatic serial driver assignment will work with the 3G-optimized driver only for kernels from 2.6.27 and up
[09:05] <krytarik> Btw, the example file content I was referring to is here: http://www.draisberghof.de/usb_modeswitch/bb/viewtopic.php?p=5815&sid=d6747e6f86292dc1e0e1ea436633e561#p5815
[09:07] <r4y> So then it should work for this kernel I think after checking synaptic package manager
[09:08] <r4y> Header files related to Linux kernel version 2.6.32 and that is what I remember to be a lower number
[09:08] <krytarik> You know, you should try with the Live CD of a current version of Ubuntu if 1.) your original issue exists, and 2.) that workaround works.
[09:09] <r4y> Would I need to install extra packages?
[09:09] <r4y> updates
[09:09] <krytarik> Since the version of that tool provided via the Lucid 10.04 is considerably older too.
[09:10] <r4y> Well couldn't I try Ubuntu 12.04 virtaully for this?
[09:10] <krytarik> Also, Lucid's End of Life is in April this year anyway.
[09:10] <r4y> I know
[09:10] <r4y> But I am not switching
[09:11] <r4y> in a calm tone
[09:12] <krytarik> Well, I will upgrade to Precise 12.04 any time soon - I'm currently still on Lucid too. :)
[09:13] <r4y> I tried it but to each their own
[09:14] <krytarik> Reg. the Virtual Machine thing, I don't think that it would go that deep, hardware control-wise, but I don't really know.
[09:14] <r4y> I still haven't tried the OSes Unit193 suggested to try out which I have downloaded, but I am going
[09:14] <r4y> to
[09:14] <krytarik> It's not that you have to live with the default "Ubuntu" setup, you know. :)
[09:14] <r4y> kubuntu, lubuntu and xubuntu
[09:15] <r4y> I know
[09:15] <r4y> I want to myself out there and try debian but I am afraid
[09:15] <krytarik> You should definitely have a look at Xubuntu, I was quite impressed when I played with it thoroughly just recently. :)
[09:16] <krytarik> You can simply run any Ubuntu ISO through Grub2, you know?
[09:17] <r4y> I still haven't tried other linux oses on this motherboard because I had tried some other gnome off shoots of Ubuntu for pleasing gnome fans whichI didn't like
[09:17] <r4y> grub2, what?, I mean Idon't like installing and messing up another install
[09:18] <r4y> I still to one install per hard drive just in case
[09:18] <krytarik> Grub2 is the boot loader.
[09:18] <r4y> I told you I am sort of a newbie
[09:19] <r4y> I've been using Ubuntu since gutsy
[09:19] <r4y> but I lack a lot
[09:19] <krytarik> I.e. you put the ISO somewhere on your HDD, add an entry for it to the Grub2 menu, and then you can boot directly into it.
[09:20] <krytarik> Sec., grabbing for a link.
[09:20] <r4y> What, that's cool
[09:21] <krytarik> There: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1549847
[09:22] <krytarik> Yeah, indeed, that way I'm running any sorts of current Ubuntu ISO without ever having to burn a CD/DVD. :)
[09:22] <r4y> I like not having to install a program but that is great as well
[09:24] <krytarik> Grub2 is the default boot loader of Lucid 10.04 as well.
[09:26] <r4y> So the path should be under the filesystem?, not home
[09:27] <r4y> O
[09:27] <r4y> I mean I was wrong I guess
[09:28] <krytarik> You mean for the config file? Yes.
[09:28] <krytarik> As well as the log file.
[09:28] <r4y> I like to use this command gksudo nautilus when messing with the filesystem. It just makes things easier for me
[09:30] <krytarik> Yeah, but not always necessary, sometimes it's easier to just use "sudo nano <file>" for just editing files, for example.
[09:31] <r4y> I am a little lost and I need to use the bathroom and get water, sorry, I need to read this some more as well
[09:31] <krytarik> Yeah, I should go to bed as well, so... :)
[09:31] <r4y> Sorry for speaking so soon hear
[09:32] <r4y> TY for this info but it will take me a little to put it together. I haven't messed with the grub menu I don't think
[09:32] <krytarik> It's 10:32 AM here already, so.. - I'm just a little weird in that. :P
[09:33] <r4y> I am a crazy late night personas well
[09:33] <r4y> Take care, and ty
[09:33] <krytarik> Yeah, take your time. There is also this, if you want to know more: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[09:34] <r4y> TY, that should help me
[09:34] <krytarik> You are welcome. :)
[09:34] <r4y> TY for trying to help me
[09:35] <krytarik> And good luck with your original issue.
[09:35] <r4y> This mp3 player is driving me nuts, but I know I need to get a better one
[09:35] <r4y> and I've been to the channel rockbox
[09:36] <r4y> I Just don't have the money yet for it
[09:36] <r4y> Things are some what tight here, but I am happy
[09:36] <r4y> TY again
[09:36] <krytarik> Yup. :)
[09:36] <r4y> Ya, I may never get it fixed, but what ever
[09:37] <Guest41676> Hi
[09:37] <r4y> Hi
[09:37] <Guest41676> I am new to Ubuntu and have a problem
[09:37] <Guest41676> I installed 12.10 inside VirtualBox running on Windows 7
[09:38] <r4y> There is also the ubuntu channel as well as this channel just in case
[09:38] <Guest41676> It wend well until the first real boot. The system booted but I did not get any prompt/loging window
[09:38] <Guest41676> Nothing
[09:38] <Guest41676> Can anybody help?
[09:39] <r4y> I can't, I am sorry, but maybe someone else here can help, I am just a visitor
[09:39] <r4y> There is this channel as well #ubuntu
[15:15] <r4y> Hello, can someone help me add an entry to the grub 2 menu?
[15:15] <r4y> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5576527/
[15:17] <r4y> Disk Utility says /dev/sda, is it still supposed to be the way I posted it in pastebin if it is sda?
[15:17] <r4y> Someone gave me this link:
[15:17] <r4y> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1549847
[15:18] <r4y> I think that person's nick started with a k, anyways
[15:20] <r4y> I think the answer is yes
[15:21] <r4y> does hd0,1 remain as hd0,1 or should it be changed
[15:34] <r4y> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5576579/
[15:35] <r4y> I want to understand better what is sda1 and sda2 and sda5 for?, is one for home and one for the filesystem, please make this clear to me
[15:35] <r4y> Anyone?
[15:36] <r4y> Give me my daily Linux bread, lol
[15:36] <r4y> Don't over feed me though
[15:37] <r4y> I forgot got to say pretty please
[15:39] <r4y> I should say that the help I've been given here has been very nice and I want to thank all the people here for the help you give us
[15:44] <r4y> I need to sleep, so I will keep this open in hopes that someone will answer what I have asked.
[15:54] <r4y> I didn't have chatzilla logging, so now I can go to sleep. Any help with my simple questions would really help me in strides. Sorry for any past trouble. TY all for the help over the years
[16:05] <r4y> I wasn't referring to the questions I had regarding my mp3 player, just the questions regarding adding an iso file to the grub 2 menu entrie and what sda1, sda2 and sda5 stand for. I forgot home is under the filesystem, duh, so then never mind that question
[16:07] <r4y> Is this right?, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5576527/ or hd0,1 is supposed to be different http://paste.ubuntu.com/5576579/
[16:12] <r4y> Sorry, in part it is too much coffee and lack of sleep. I am not a social person, so I lack thinking before I speak and ramble. What's great about the Ubuntu forums for instance is that we can edit what we have written to take out spelling errors and ramblings. Anyways, sorry again
[16:13] <r4y> I will be logging this so I can sleep
[21:57] <alexitc_> is anyone here knowledgable?
[21:59] <alexitc_> is anyone here alive?
[22:00] <alexitc_> shadeslayer r u here?
[22:28] <alexitc_> anyone here?
[22:29] <Unit193> !ask | alexitc_
[22:30] <alexitc_> i cant find the mount point for my external dvd drive. how can i find that out?
[22:32] <Unit193> /dev/sr0 is a standard one.
[22:32] <Unit193> !mount
[22:34] <alexitc_> cant find /dev/sr0 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[22:43] <alexitc_> am i never gonna be able to mount a cd or dvd drive?
[23:29] <cerebrate> Peace yall.  may i have guidance into making a practical script to keep my touchpad i dont need or want from activating through the software
[23:32] <krytarik> How about this?: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad#Completely_disabling_Touchpad
[23:35] <cerebrate> it varies with the necessary change of login devices attached to my computer krytarik
[23:35] <cerebrate> plus i want it automated
[23:35] <cerebrate> i guess i should read the friendly manpage or something
[23:35] <cerebrate> oh yeah you proved satisfactory :D
[23:35] <krytarik> :)
[23:37] <cerebrate> dissatisfactory implimenting due to use of lubuntu instead of less modified ubuntu variants :/
[23:38] <cerebrate> atareao not found in commands
[23:38] <cerebrate> atareao not found in accessories list
[23:40] <krytarik> You'd have to install it from its PPA first, with the commands provided there.
[23:41] <cerebrate> apparently touchpad functionality disabled :D
[23:41] <cerebrate> tyvm ^3^
[23:41] <krytarik> You are welcome. :)
[23:55] <r4y> krytarik 	Is this right?, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5576527/ or hd0,1 is supposed to be different http://paste.ubuntu.com/5576579/
[23:57]  * krytarik looks
[23:58] <krytarik> Looks fine to me.