[00:01] <dank101> WELCOME TO WORM.COM
[00:01] <dank101> HACKED BY CHINESE
[00:01] <ogra_> dank101, ???
[00:02] <dank101> get the joke and get a cookie
[00:02] <dank101> :D
[00:03] <lectro> i have a issue updating phablet tools to flash latest ubuntu touch to my maguro nexus
[00:03] <lectro> i get quantal-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip: FAILED md5sum: WARNING: 1 computed checksum did NOT match Error while downloading, ensure connection
[00:03] <lectro> when doing phablet-flash -l
[00:04] <dank101> upgrade it
[00:05] <Hashcode> rsalveti: on my builds I'm fixing ubuntu-session in the android.zip
[00:06] <rsalveti> Hashcode: right, feel free to send me patches
[00:06] <rsalveti> or MRs
[00:06] <Hashcode> So I have users install the cdimage .zip first.  And then the android.zip
[00:06] <rsalveti> let me find the bzr branch
[00:06] <ogra_> rsalveti, ergh, see lectro above ... seems he is right
[00:06] <Hashcode> No real patch, but flashing the android.zip 2nd allows for some customization of the ubuntu fs
[00:06] <ogra_> ogra@nusakan:~$ md5sum /srv/cdimage.ubuntu.com/www/full/ubuntu-touch-preview/daily-preinstalled/current/quantal-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip
[00:06] <ogra_> 4e0792168b7047274f56487e1987cdfc  /srv/cdimage.ubuntu.com/www/full/ubuntu-touch-preview/daily-preinstalled/current/quantal-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip
[00:06] <ogra_> ogra@nusakan:~$ cat /srv/cdimage.ubuntu.com/www/full/ubuntu-touch-preview/daily-preinstalled/current/quantal-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip.md5sum
[00:06] <ogra_> 92a22c0afc2895502998a4ea7de73292  quantal-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip
[00:07] <ogra_> ogra@nusakan:~$
[00:07] <ogra_> rsalveti, ^^^
[00:07] <lectro> i get same md5
[00:07] <lectro> its a exact copy but the program with phable-flash -l gives me quantal-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip: FAILED md5sum: WARNING: 1 computed checksum did NOT match Error while downloading, ensure connection
[00:07] <ogra_> right, something went wrong with that build
[00:08] <lectro> if i miss the -l i only get the 21st feb build
[00:08] <rsalveti> Hashcode: https://code.launchpad.net/session-manager
[00:08] <lectro> i have the 26th feb build on there atm
[00:08] <rsalveti> Hashcode: but if you can, please have MRs for your ubuntu specific modifications
[00:08] <rsalveti> that way you can still just have your users using the daily images
[00:08] <rsalveti> + apt-get update/upgrade will work
[00:08] <Hashcode> Oh for adding the devices
[00:08] <rsalveti> yup
[00:08] <rsalveti> we need a better way to handle that
[00:08] <Hashcode> I'll see what I can do in the smallest use of new lines :)
[00:09] <rsalveti> I was thinking about having a dir where we can load configs based on the cpu board info
[00:09] <Hashcode> Yeah that'd be optimal
[00:09] <rsalveti> then all you need when creating a port is adding a new config
[00:09] <lectro> one day we will be able to update our touch os via the handset
[00:09] <lectro> similar to CM mod updates
[00:09] <lectro> seems how it is running a modded cm mod
[00:09] <sergiusens> lectro: best thing you can do is go to download dir
[00:10] <Hashcode> rsalveti: get my email of the android patches?
[00:10] <sergiusens> lectro: recheck the sum md5sum -c 'file that failed'
[00:10] <sergiusens> lectro: or just delete the offending file
[00:10] <ogra_> sergiusens, its wrong on the server
[00:10] <sergiusens> ogra_: what? for real? Which device?
[00:10] <ogra_> sergiusens, for the rootfs zip
[00:11] <sergiusens> ogra_: strange, well I'm downloading latest, let me check jenkins
[00:11] <rsalveti> hm, I was able to use with the internal jenkins
[00:11] <lectro> deleting the files just makes it redownload and spit out same error
[00:11] <rsalveti> maybe an issue while syncing?
[00:12] <rsalveti> lectro: yeah, error is at the server side
[00:12] <lectro> do we know when it will be resolved
[00:12] <lectro> ?
[00:12] <rsalveti> Hashcode: yup, will look in a few
[00:12] <ogra_> sergiusens, wrong on jenkins as well
[00:12] <rsalveti> lectro: we're just checking
[00:12] <ogra_> just checked
[00:12] <rsalveti> now why it worked here...
[00:13] <Uto_> Hi there
[00:13] <rsalveti> ogra_: which build id is that one?
[00:13] <Hashcode> thanks
[00:13] <ogra_> rsalveti, the new one
[00:13] <ogra_> JENKINS_BUILD 6
[00:13] <seepa14> I was able to start a root shell via adb. But the data/ubuntu folder is empty?
[00:13] <rsalveti> oh, I tested the 3
[00:14] <lectro> the latest one is 28th feb around 9pm GMT
[00:14] <lectro> modfied time that is
[00:14] <ogra_> yep
[00:14] <rsalveti> ogra_: sergiusens: maybe an issue when sergiusens was testing the incremental build?
[00:14] <lectro> modified time that is*
[00:14] <rsalveti> lectro: yeah, we're checking at the internal jenkins
[00:14] <rsalveti> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/daily-preinstalled/20130228.1/quantal-ubuntu_stamp
[00:14] <sergiusens> rsalveti: build 6 was a full build
[00:14] <rsalveti> says the build id used internally
[00:15] <ogra_> right and i pull from lastSuccessfulBuild
[00:15] <rsalveti> sergiusens: hm, so something wrong happened
[00:15] <ogra_> which according to jenkins was error free
[00:15] <lectro> so you recon someones made a mistake along the line of building it?
[00:15] <rsalveti> lectro: we're investigating
[00:15] <ogra_> lectro, right, be patient, there will be a new build
[00:16] <lectro> okie dokie :)
[00:16] <lectro> will we eventually have a change log file added to the download image site?
[00:17] <rsalveti> lectro: next week
[00:17] <rsalveti> :-)
[00:17] <ogra_> rsalveti, what do you plan to put in there ?
[00:17] <lectro> its always nice to know whats changed from one day to the next
[00:17] <Uto_> someone can help please
[00:17] <Uto_> http://pastebin.com/EyNQgfUs
[00:17] <ogra_> all the changelogs of the debs ?
[00:18] <rsalveti> ogra_: checking the other files
[00:18] <rsalveti> ogra_: to see if it's just a problem with the ubuntu image
[00:19] <rsalveti> also, sergiusens is working at the server side it seems
[00:20] <lectro> right im gonna have to hit the hay as work early in the morning but least its friday, ill check back maybe late tomorrow to see if it re works for the latest image
[00:21] <sergiusens> rsalveti: ogra_ lectro it seems to be an issue when jenkins archived the artifacts... the files are ok on disk :-/
[00:21] <lectro> so how would i by pass the phablet-flash -l command
[00:21] <ogra_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5575014/
[00:22] <rsalveti> ogra_: yeah, just the ubuntu zip
[00:22] <ogra_> oopps, missing some zips
[00:22] <ogra_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5575018/
[00:23] <ogra_> yeah
[00:23] <rsalveti> let's start another build and wait for the sync
[00:23] <rsalveti> and hope for the best
[00:23] <ogra_> right
[00:23] <rsalveti> :-)
[00:23] <ogra_> well, i could hcak it up on cdimage if you are confident the zip is fine
[00:23] <lectro> how long does another build take?
[00:24] <rsalveti> I'm not so sure
[00:24] <sergiusens> ogra_: let the machine do the matching :-) md5sum -c *.md5sum :-)
[00:24] <rsalveti> lectro: you could manually deploy an older image
[00:24] <rsalveti> meanwhile
[00:24] <Uto_> someone can help me please?
[00:24] <rsalveti> adb push them to /sdcard and flash with recovery
[00:24] <ogra_> sergiusens, pfft, then i cant show off my shellscripting in pastes :P
[00:24] <sergiusens> lectro: use -u and poin to the previous build on cdimage
[00:24] <rsalveti> sergiusens: can we use phablet-flash using the url from another builddate?
[00:24] <ogra_> (will do next time :) )
[00:24] <rsalveti> awesome
[00:25] <rsalveti> phablet-flash -u http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/daily-preinstalled/20130228/ should work then
[00:25] <rsalveti> OSError: [Errno 28] No space left on device: '/home/rsalveti/Downloads/phablet-flash/102'
[00:25] <rsalveti> oooops
[00:26] <ogra_> wipe these git trees :)
[00:26] <rsalveti> we indeed need to clean the older images
[00:26] <ogra_> yeah
[00:26] <rsalveti> or find a better way to handle them
[00:26] <rsalveti> ogra_: yeah, got a lot of trees around as well
[00:26] <ali1234> i keep running out of space also :(
[00:26] <lectro> why does it name the folders like 95, 99, 6. 102 etc
[00:27] <sergiusens> lectro: that's the jenkins build number
[00:27] <ogra_> internal build numbers of the machine building them
[00:27] <lectro> ah right i see
[00:27] <sergiusens> lectro: in case you want to roll back to one of them
[00:27] <sergiusens> lectro: you can use phablet-flash -p [path to build]
[00:27] <lectro> any upcoming changes in the next few days we can expect?
[00:27] <anonim> can anyone help with flashing? i wiped data/cache/dalvik, flashed quantal-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip and quantal-preinstalled-armel+maguro.zip, flashed cache again, then rebooted. it boots me into stock jelly bean
[00:28] <rsalveti> lectro: well, we got quite a few folks involved in many different projects, so hard to tell
[00:28] <rsalveti> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-touch-preview
[00:28] <lectro> be nice to see how it turns out, do they have deadlines on when they need to design a native app for example a music app?
[00:28] <rsalveti> you can subscribe yourself at the branches
[00:29] <rsalveti> and get all the notifications :-)
[00:29] <rsalveti> but it might be a lot of emails
[00:29] <sergiusens> ogra_: don't hack the md5sum, you'll need to hack the zip file ;-)
[00:30] <ogra_> sergiusens, oh ? why ?is the md5 used elsewhere than in .zip.md5sum ?
[00:30]  * rsalveti time to get a cold one and watch some football
[00:30] <ogra_> haha, have fun
[00:30]  * ogra_ did that yesterday
[00:31] <rsalveti> ogra_: :-)
[00:36] <rsalveti> ogra_: sergiusens bug 1136631
[00:38] <ogra_> bah, lectro is gone
[00:38]  * ogra_ wanted him as guineapig
[00:38] <ogra_> should be ok again
[00:38] <rsalveti> ogra_: awesome, thanks!
[00:40] <sergiusens> ogra_: rsalveti I'm downliding prev build from the J and it worked like a charm
[00:40] <sergiusens> ogra_: rsalveti infra glitch I'd say
[00:40] <rsalveti> sergiusens: alright
[00:41] <ogra_> ok
[00:43] <dank101> bug 666
[00:45] <ogra_> try bug 248619 if you look for entertainment
[00:45] <ogra_> or bug 1
[00:50] <ali1234> now that ubuntu runs on phones and smartphones outnumber desktop PCs, can we close bug 1?
[00:50] <ali1234> this is a serious question.
[00:51] <ogra_> after we surpassed win phone we can probably :)
[00:51] <ali1234> that shouldn't take long
[00:51] <ogra_> after all its marks bug though, he's the one to close it
[00:53] <ali1234> other people close my bugs all the time :(
[00:55] <ali1234> mainly launchpad janitor
[00:56] <ogra_> well, the janitor is a bot
[00:57] <ali1234> i know :)
[00:57] <ogra_> it automatically closes bugs when a fix is uploaded or when the bug was in incomplete state for 60 days
[00:57] <ali1234> someone should make him a profile
[00:57] <ogra_> hehe
[00:57] <ali1234> http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-xqKUwIGHISo/Tb8fej-bOWI/AAAAAAAACqU/ktxODuShhiI/s1600/Janitor.JPG
[00:58] <ogra_> haha
[01:00] <shaneo1> anyone have a link to the daily release notes?
[01:01] <ogra_> there are none
[01:04] <shaneo1> ok thanks ogra, whats been changed on the dailies
[01:04] <shaneo1> who knows
[01:05] <ali1234> i should think the information is spread across a lot of people
[01:05] <ali1234> nobody knows all of it
[01:06] <shaneo1> no worries
[01:06] <ogra_> shaneo1, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-touch-preview you could watCh all these branches for the ubuntu side and all commits on http://phablet.ubuntu.com/gitweb for the android parts of the image
[01:06] <shaneo1> thanks ogra
[01:07] <ogra_> or just wait until some kind of changelog is implemented, but i doubt it will cover the rootfs parts as that has individual packages
[01:07] <ali1234> so adb can use termios to get raw input on the PC side
[01:08] <ali1234> but for some reason it is getting lost between there and busybox on the phone
[01:08] <ali1234> and i can't find the part that handles it on the phone side
[01:11] <shaneo1> well see ya later guys o/ keep up the good work
[01:12] <rsalveti> let me email the list saying we'll have the changelog soon, but not there yet
[01:13] <Uto_> is there anybody?
[01:15] <ogra_> rsalveti, ++
[01:15] <mrspinx> hi
[01:15] <ali1234> hmm... so adb doesn't actually run busybox sh
[01:16] <ali1234> it runs /system/bin/sh which is symlink to mksh whatever that i
[01:16] <ali1234> s
[01:16] <ali1234> maybe tha doesn't handle signals properly
[01:24] <Uto_> can you check it http://pastebin.com/k00b0UF7 please and tell me why???
[01:24] <Uto_> please
[01:31] <ali1234> ah i see... SIGWINCH isn't sent through stdin - it is always a signal
[01:31] <ali1234> so adb needs to catch it and send it to the phone
[01:40] <ali1234> confirmed... even in raw mode adb still receives that SIGWINCH
[01:41] <ali1234> so it should be simple as sending it to phone and then having adbd raise it again
[01:41] <ali1234> but question is, can adb do anything more than just raw read and write the fds?
[01:43] <ali1234> this is how ssh does it: it has a special command in its protocol: https://github.com/SimonWilkinson/gss-openssh/blob/master/clientloop.c#L503
[01:54] <skinny> greetings
[02:10] <timothysnave> Is there a way to just download the nightly image for the nexus 7?
[02:11] <Uto_>    /usr/bin/ubuntu-session: line 38: kill: (652) - No such process
[02:11] <Uto_> ??
[02:18] <mrspinx> Does any one know where to download the orginal android image?
[02:20] <timothysnave> If you have a nexus device, Google hosts them. Other than that, you'll have to Google it. Sometimes they can be hard to find
[02:32] <ali1234> hmm
[02:35] <ali1234> ok, fixed enter key in nano
[02:36] <ali1234> the problem is that when you open fd in raw mode with termios, return, enter, ^J and ^M all send \n
[02:36] <ali1234> ^J in particular is supposed to send \r
[02:36] <ali1234> nano wants \r on the save dialog
[02:37] <ali1234> so i patched adb to convert \n to \r on outgoing packets... and it works
[02:37] <ali1234> i don't know if this can be fixed host side somehow with term settings
[02:37] <ali1234> hmm i mixed ^M and ^J
[02:38] <ali1234> ^M is \r
[03:01] <thed3ck3r> so how do i tell the new release note to the preinstalled image
[03:11] <thed3ck3r> hello?
[03:20] <RobbyF> ali1234, you fixed nano ? :) <3
[03:59] <jjesse> hello following the instructions at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=38300214&postcount=104 to MultiRom boot Ubuntu and Android it recommends quantal-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip  to install and download
[03:59] <jjesse> however if you look at this or install this it is full of personal information (phone #s and appointments)
[03:59] <jjesse> the phone #s are of canonical people
[03:59] <jjesse> and the pictures appear to be from an asian location
[04:00] <jjesse> also the Facebook page is linked to an indidivudal
[04:00] <jjesse> so either there needs to be a better way of doing things, or that file needs to be wiped of personal information
[04:04] <lilstevie> jjesse, that data is sample data
[04:04] <jjesse> lilstevie, including the phone #s?
[04:04] <lilstevie> yes
[04:04] <jjesse> seems a bit intrusive
[04:04] <jjesse> doesn't it?
[04:05] <jjesse> like heres this person's life on a ubuntu phone all setup for you
[04:05] <lilstevie> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes#Sample_content
[04:05] <lilstevie> jjesse, it is sample data
[04:05] <jjesse> thanks for the link to the release notes
[04:05] <jjesse> was just very very suprised
[04:05] <lilstevie> because many features don't exist yet it is just to give you the feel of it
[04:06] <lilstevie> this is a developer preview, not a consumer ready product
[04:06] <jjesse> yeah i understand that a bit, but was surprised as a google didn't show it up
[04:07] <jjesse> and there were canonical employees (which showed up) as contacts etc
[04:08] <lilstevie> jjesse, rest assured that it is all intentional
[04:08] <lilstevie> there is script that injects the content in the fs
[04:08] <lilstevie> ;)
[04:47] <doppelkeks> Is There a way to install ubuntu on smartphone LG p990 and use telephone and SMS function?
[05:01] <TCPJunkie> Hi, I was hoping someone could give me a quick hand with restoring my android image, as after I installed Ubuntu, I am having too many troubles. When I run "adb devices" it sees my device. I extract and cd into the extracted directory. I run adb reboot-bootloader and my phone goes to the bootloader. but when I run "./flash-all.sh" it just hangs on "waiting for device"
[05:02] <TCPJunkie> any help would greatly be appreciated
[05:04] <TCPJunkie> nevermind, I didn't sudo
[05:04] <TCPJunkie> sorry
[05:05] <TCPJunkie> RTFM, eh?
[05:08] <James> Ellon
[05:08] <James> Ello
[05:09] <Guest91929> Installing Ubuntu Touch as we speak
[05:09] <Guest91929> :)
[05:50] <AndroUser> Hey hashcode, is it possible to remove the fake data on the touch preview for m-devices?
[05:52] <Mike253> Just wondering because i was gonna do it but dont know where to start.
[05:53] <Hashcode> I think it is
[05:53] <Hashcode> there's instructions somewhere on the wiki
[05:54] <drmarble> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes about half way down. "Sample content is preinstalled in the images. If desired it can be removed. Access the device via SSH as user phablet and perform the following:"
[05:55] <Mike253> Drmarble: i was wondering if it could be done through the zips that were provided that hashcode created.
[05:55] <Hashcode> I can add a few things in the zips
[05:56] <Hashcode> But I think most users just wanna load it up and play with the UI a bit and then turn it off :P
[05:56] <Hashcode> maybe leave some constructive feedback
[05:56] <Mike253> lol i know. Freaked me out the first boot, vibrated real loud, white screened then booted fully lol
[05:57] <Mike253> But me personally, i was gonna develop some apps and such for it and see if i cant contribute a little bit
[05:59] <Hashcode> Mike253: which device?
[05:59] <Mike253> Hashcode: Maserati.
[05:59] <Hashcode> Ah nice
[06:00] <Hashcode> Too bad the hard keyboard isn't used atm.
[06:00] <Mike253> Hashcode: also shutting down i couldnt turn the phone back on without plugging it into ac then had to go into safestrap lol.
[06:00] <Hashcode> well the screen doesn't time out
[06:01] <Hashcode> so watch for that
[06:01] <Mike253> Keyboard worked for me just without backlight
[06:01] <Hashcode> have to hit the power button to turn the screen off
[06:01] <Hashcode> And battery drain is a bit high atm
[06:01] <Mike253> Im guessing that its just about full kexec atm?
[06:01] <Mike253> Havent taken a look at the github yet lol
[06:01] <Hashcode> Well other devices have mentioned high battery drain also
[06:02] <Hashcode> But our kexec does have more than most kernels also
[06:02] <Hashcode> atm
[06:03] <Mike253> True, but at the time i was testing i had around 25% battery anyway lol.. and i was only testing seeing what worked and such
[06:03] <Mike253> Good start though
[06:03] <Hashcode> yeah it's .. the GSM RAZR has phone service
[06:03] <Hashcode> I can't get anything going yet on the CDMA devices tho
[06:03] <Hashcode> I'm still looking at ril logs to see whats missing
[06:04] <BLAKE_> Hashcode I dont think that have implemented cdma features eyt
[06:04] <BLAKE_> yet*
[06:04] <Mike253> Id take a look if my motherboard was here. And CDMA wasnt that mainly just drivers and links?
[06:04] <Hashcode> Yeah I was betting.
[06:04] <Hashcode> it's the interface w/ rild
[06:06] <BLAKE_> cant wait for new ubuntu, rolling releases \o/
[06:06] <Mike253> Gotcha. Is there any way i could pull the kexec/required stuff from github to see what i can do? As soon as i get my motherboard and set back up.
[06:06] <xsacha> that's not for sure is it?
[06:06] <Mike253> BLAKE_: rolling releases? :O thats gonna be crazy lol.
[06:07] <Hashcode> Mike253: we have a local manifest for building the ubuntu base
[06:07] <BLAKE_> crazy AWESOME
[06:07] <BLAKE_> there still gonna have LTS
[06:07] <BLAKE_> version
[06:08] <Hashcode> Mike253: this is the local_manifest we add to the phablet repo: https://github.com/STS-Dev-Team/android_local_STS/tree/phablet
[06:08] <Mike253> Hashcode: im gonna look into it, and hopefully if i can contribute ill let ya know
[06:09] <waseda> Hello - it would be nice if the flash tools would support proxies for downloads.
[06:10] <Mike253> Hashcode: wasnt there a way for adb to work?
[06:10] <Hashcode> yes it works
[06:10] <Hashcode> adb shell gets you into the android base layer
[06:10] <Hashcode> ubuntu_chroot shell
[06:10] <Hashcode> gets you into the ubuntu chroot  after that
[06:11] <Mike253> Hashcode: now.. is that ip-related or adb device info for (windows 7 at the moment, workstation ubuntu is out)
[06:12] <Mike253> I see alot of people SSH'ing into the phone/device through ip addresses lol
[06:12] <Hashcode> Right you can do that too
[06:13] <Hashcode> You can install ppa's and stuff
[06:13] <Mike253> Also ive heard whenever you install apps and such you cant exactly access it unless through terminal
[06:14] <Hashcode> yeah not all apps work in the UI
[06:14] <Mike253> Not yet anyway lol
[06:15] <Mike253> One dude i know that has a n4 said some apps he installed showed up inthe app drawer
[06:15] <Mike253> Which is weird
[06:20] <Mike253> Hashcode: oh and for no reason cm10.1 and all the variants kept on having this weird issue.. no vibrations for anything. SMS/MMS/Calls/Notifications also checked settings and such but it wasnt workin right..
[06:21] <Hashcode> mm
[06:21] <Mike253> also checked too see if it was just my phone so i swapped over to stock and didnt have no issues.. neither does Droid4HD -ULite which im using now
[06:21] <Hashcode> I think CM merged something which broke some things
[06:21] <Hashcode> Speakerphone issues in the last build as well
[06:21] <Hashcode> DHacker is looking at it
[06:22] <Mike253> What was the other issue it was having? Besides bt-audio?
[06:22] <Hashcode> erm
[06:22] <Hashcode> flash on photos
[06:23] <Hashcode> bt audio is a horrible problem.. there's a lot of Motorola mire we have to deal with in their audio libs (stuck on older Android versions)
[06:23] <Hashcode> Since we can't build it from source
[06:25] <Mike253> hmm, flash on photos on the latest builds were working just fine for me. And youve been working on it for a while so i can imagine its pretty tough not being able to look into source
[06:26] <Mike253> Have you looked into the dev versions of the droid 4 at all? Theres a couple out there that have an unlocked bootloader and through motodev you can get source and such.. least from what i remember.
[06:28] <Hashcode> not for audio :)
[06:28] <Hashcode> it's locked up tight
[06:29] <Hashcode> They do alot with the RDS socket for RIL communications
[06:29] <Hashcode> That's the part we can't duplicate.
[06:29] <rsalveti> Hashcode: I'm building and applying your stuff now
[06:30] <Mike253> Now i fully see why you moved over to kexec.
[06:30] <Hashcode> rsalveti: thank you sir
[06:30] <Hashcode> Mike253: so many more options :P
[06:31] <rsalveti> yeah, we need to remove the fake data as well
[06:31] <rsalveti> if anyone wants to open a bug for that, https://bugs.launchpad.net/touch-preview-images
[06:31] <Mike253> Lol true. Too bad google couldnt just release the unlock codes for the m-devices.. thatd make everything easier.
[06:32] <Hashcode> I like the fake data!
[06:32] <Hashcode> makes me feel important..
[06:32] <Hashcode> >.>
[06:32] <Hashcode> <.<
[06:32] <rsalveti> lol, yeah
[06:32] <Mike253> Lol
[06:32] <Mike253> rsalvet: wonder if they could provide a script to remove the fake data?? Hmm.
[06:33] <rsalveti> that might be easier indeed
[06:33] <Mike253> rsalveti: wonder if they could provide a script to remove the fake data?? Hmm.
[06:33] <Mike253> Something ill look into prolly tommorow
[06:34] <rsalveti> cool, feel free to share with us, would be more than happy to merge that :-)
[06:35] <doomlord> not really 100% ontopic but, has anyone heard of an app to use a phone or tablet to switch desktops/windows . basically imagine one's smartphone or tablet being like the desktop thumbnails
[06:35] <Mike253> Lol, maybe make an app that gives you an option if you wanted to remove all fake data from system..
[06:36] <rsalveti> ali1234: cool, wondering if we could fix adb for real regarding this issue then
[06:36] <Mike253> doomlord: you mean like control windows and such?
[06:36] <doomlord> yes
[06:37] <doomlord> imagine your smart-device docked above your desktop keyboard for example
[06:37] <Mike253> doomlord: no, but im sure thatd be a pretty awesome tool for someone to use though.
[06:38] <doomlord> its an itch i've had for a while
[06:38] <doomlord> not got around to writing it myself
[06:38] <Mike253> doomlord: make it man.
[06:38] <doomlord> android desktop remote for linux
[06:39] <Mike253> doomlord: maybe use some protocol for communicating (secure) and then you swipe up or down to kill the app.. like ics and up.
[06:40] <doomlord> part of whats inspiring me is how good OSX is - multi-touch is awesome for navigating desktops
[06:41] <doomlord> but a world of touchscreen main computers is just around the corner already(all the win8 touch enabled laptops)
[06:42] <Mike253> doomlord: maybe for a alpha you could kind of rip that? And i know, just installed windows 8 onto a tablet and its amazing.. as much as i love linux.. lol.
[06:42] <doomlord> i'll say i like the look of the Lenovo Yoga a lot
[06:43] <doomlord> and it would be nice to get the ubuntu-desktop more touch aware (more gestures for desktop switching..)
[06:44] <doomlord> i can completely see why apple did what they did with mission control ... N screens handled much better than a grid of 2x2,3x3,4x4
[06:44] <doomlord> but i bet you could do something nice with zooming out to see 2x2 desktops then scrolling to see more..
[06:45] <Mike253> doomlord: the yoga is pretty awesome. Maybe you could create a desktop enviroment based off gnome3? Ive personally never messed with apple lol
[06:45] <doomlord> what makes apple shine is the multitouch on a trackpad, and its got 'expo'+'scale' equivalents integrated..
[06:46] <doomlord> i've never seen linux able to trigger 'expo' and 'scale' together seemlessly like the mac can
[06:47] <Mike253> Theres a good challenge for you lol.. create a fully touch based enviroment (with mouse and keyboard as a fallback for hard core users). I know, i used my laptop with ubuntu for a while and it was awesome comparred to my friends macbook pro lol
[06:47] <doomlord> well i have this itch but.. it would probably be more helpful to just put time into touch-optimizing linux apps themselves , etc on n7,
[06:48] <doomlord> i prefer a mac over any linux desktop .. which is why i'd like to customize linux more lol
[06:48] <doomlord> because i prefer the variety of PC hardware
[06:48] <Mike253> Either the enviroment or help out with some apps to make it more touch optimized
[06:48] <doomlord> yes i think touch optimizing apps is the way to go
[06:48] <doomlord> have you seen "air-display"
[06:48] <doomlord> using a tablet as a mac 2nd monitor :)
[06:50] <Mike253> I like the cleanliness and the "quality" of mac hardware.. but id rather put 1500 towards a decent desktop thats custom. Ive never used it lol. I still have older hardware (mostly phenoms, core 2 duos, athlons, etc)
[06:50] <doomlord> multitouch could be awsome for window management... how about 3-finger pinch gestures for resizing
[06:50] <Mike253> ^^ thatd be awesome.
[06:51] <Mike253> Look up webcam ir touch panel.
[06:51] <doomlord> or just pinch gesture to bring up the desktop grid (and progressively zoom, 2x2,3x3..)
[06:51] <Mike253> Lol you could do it if you had the time and resources +motivation
[06:52] <doomlord> learning the codebase and getting changes in without breaking it ..
[06:52] <HarryCho> hello guys
[06:52] <HarryCho> may I ask something here?
[06:52] <Mike253> Yeah you can harry
[06:53] <HarryCho> my phone is LG optimus L5..
[06:53] <Mike253> doomlord: meh, itd be easy. Just back up config
[06:53] <HarryCho> and CM doesn't provide their solution for L5
[06:53] <Mike253> HarryCho: porting guide?
[06:53] <HarryCho> yes.. I need the porting guide
[06:53] <Mike253> Have you looked on xda?
[06:54] <HarryCho> I looked through it, but couldn't really find anything from there
[06:54] <Mike253> Because someone might of made the cm10.1 kernel already available.. thatd really help you.
[06:54] <Mike253> Your device-specific forum?
[06:54] <HarryCho> oh.. yeah that'd be help out
[06:55] <HarryCho> so Mike, you are saying.. there are some forum for specific device?
[06:55] <HarryCho> um... so are there any other way that I can port Ubuntu without using CM??
[06:56] <Mike253> Yes, on xda there is individiual forums for different devices. Mine would be the Droid 4 for instance.
[06:57] <Mike253> Youd have to use cm/ or if you can find the source for your phone.. you could do it.
[06:57] <Mike253> Mainly the kernel is all thats needed.
[06:58] <HarryCho> oh..
[06:58] <HarryCho> where can I find the guide?
[06:58] <Mike253> HarryCho: what does Settings-About Phone-Model Number say for you?
[06:58] <HarryCho> LG-E610
[06:59] <Mike253> think this is the one for porting https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting
[07:00] <HarryCho> yeah I saw that through.. but I thought that page was for devices that has CM
[07:01] <Mike253> I dont know if your phone supports this from what i seen on this thread... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1790342
[07:02] <Mike253> No custom recovery from my scan through..
[07:02] <HarryCho> Is the porting guide actually gives you the direction how to change the 'kernel' source?
[07:03] <Mike253> Mostly just the android propietary drivers for your device to make it work together then it uses ubuntu's stuff after that
[07:04] <Mike253> As far as i understood
[07:04] <doomlord> perhapps whats needed is just a complete touch-optimized window-manager... thats not so bad to change,if one starts with a simple one, but i dont know how touch events go through..
[07:06] <Mike253> doomlord: i believe touch events are handled by driver level.. not sure lol havent poked around desktop linux os internals
[07:06] <Mike253> Look at the documentary?
[07:09] <HarryCho> oh... Mike has quit..
[07:13] <HarryCho> doomlord: so it's possible?
[07:30] <HarryCho> Are there anyone here who can answer this question????
[07:30] <HarryCho> my question is.. how to port Ubuntu touch on a smart phone(optimus L5) that doesn't have CM version for....
[07:32] <HarryCho> Are there anyone here who can kindly answer my question????
[07:32] <HarryCho> my question is.. how to port Ubuntu touch on a smart phone(optimus L5) that doesn't have CM version for....
[07:44] <NazMir> hello guys
[07:45] <NazMir> I ported ubuntu to my galaxy note 2 GT-N7100 international version
[07:45] <NazMir> I can boot fine
[07:45] <NazMir> but the Networking doesn't work
[07:45] <NazMir> any ideas on how to proceed or fix that
[07:45] <NazMir> HarryCho -
[07:46] <NazMir> I think if your device does not have a CM version porting would be a little difficult
[07:46] <NazMir> IMO you would be better off first porting your device to CM
[07:46] <NazMir> then carrying on from there
[07:47] <NazMir> CM has good documentation on how to port a new device. Good luck/
[07:50] <HarryCho> NazMir
[07:50] <NazMir> @HarryCho - http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Doc:_porting_intro that should help you
[07:50] <HarryCho> thank you!
[07:50] <HarryCho> hey I have some more question..
[07:51] <NazMir> yeah
[07:51] <HarryCho> well I'm so desparate to port this thing on L5..
[07:52] <HarryCho> so what do we exactly have to do for porting Ubuntu?
[07:52] <HarryCho> for two cases...
[07:52] <HarryCho> one for we have CM for the device,
[07:53] <HarryCho> and another one for we don't have CM for the device
[07:53] <NazMir> HarryCho - technically you dont need CM for porting Ubuntu to a device
[07:54] <HarryCho> right..?
[07:54] <NazMir> but CM does make a lot of things easier
[07:54] <HarryCho> um... why is that..?
[07:54] <NazMir> with its scripts, repos, wiki, documentation
[07:54] <NazMir> it automates a lot of things for you
[07:54] <HarryCho> oh.... canonical actually did alot of things for us... right?
[07:55] <NazMir> what canonical did is - automating a part of porting
[07:55] <NazMir> technically Ubuntu touch is comprised of two parts
[07:56] <HarryCho> yeah..
[07:56] <NazMir> Android bare bones + Ubuntu
[07:57] <NazMir> Ubuntu runs on top of Android because -  Android has a huge device base & device drivers are already available
[07:57] <NazMir> so Ubuntu takes this from Android
[07:57] <NazMir> and runs the actually Ubuntu on top of it
[07:57] <HarryCho> yeah I understood that part
[07:57] <NazMir> Since, CM is very good at the porting/customizing Android Ubuntu just based their Android part on CM's code
[07:58] <NazMir> that way they are not reinventing a lot of things
[07:58] <HarryCho> oh.. yeah I understood
[07:58] <NazMir> so when you say phablet-bootstrap ..(something) you are getting the CM code base
[07:59] <HarryCho> yeah
[07:59] <HarryCho> I downloaded that
[07:59] <NazMir> from which you build the Android part
[07:59] <NazMir> if you look inside the root folder there are folders like kernel
[07:59] <NazMir> vendor
[07:59] <NazMir> device etc'
[07:59] <HarryCho> yeah
[08:00] <NazMir> if your device is already supported getting code, drivers etc. should be as simple as updating manifest file (git repo list) and doing a repo sync
[08:00] <NazMir> but if your device is not supported
[08:00] <NazMir> you did have to do it all by yourself
[08:01] <HarryCho> and if CM code is there... then we can just plug in the codes?
[08:01] <NazMir> yeah
[08:01] <NazMir> if your device is supported by CM
[08:02] <NazMir> all you need to do is run repo sync
[08:02] <NazMir> it will get the code
[08:02] <NazMir> and then compile it
[08:02] <NazMir> which will give you a .zip file which you can flash using TWRP or CWM
[08:02] <HarryCho> repo sync for my specific device.. right?
[08:02] <NazMir> yeah
[08:02] <NazMir> usually brunch
[08:02] <NazMir> command will let you do that
[08:03] <NazMir> here's what I did for my device
[08:03] <NazMir> repo sync
[08:03] <HarryCho> so if I made my own CM
[08:03] <NazMir> brunch n7100
[08:03] <NazMir> thats it
[08:03] <NazMir> I got a zip
[08:03] <HarryCho> oh wow..
[08:04] <HarryCho> I see
[08:04] <NazMir> thats the beauty of CM
[08:04] <HarryCho> after you get your zip file for CM
[08:04] <NazMir> so what I suggest is go through the CM porting link i sent earlier
[08:04] <NazMir> that should help you
[08:05] <HarryCho> yeah..
[08:05] <HarryCho> thank you so much
[08:05] <NazMir> np
[08:05] <HarryCho> but would that be possible to
[08:05] <NazMir> good luck
[08:05] <HarryCho> port the Ubuntu on my phone without using CM??
[08:06] <NazMir> it should be
[08:06] <HarryCho> if we have the android source code.... that I got from xda
[08:06] <NazMir> but the process would be identical
[08:06] <NazMir> with CM or without CM you should be able to port your device
[08:07] <HarryCho> are there any guide or direction to it?
[08:07] <NazMir> I'm not sure
[08:07] <NazMir> but you should find them
[08:07] <NazMir> http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Doc:_porting_intro
[08:07] <NazMir> sorry
[08:08] <HarryCho> no
[08:08] <NazMir> you should find them on Ubuntu site
[08:08] <NazMir> they are not detailed
[08:08] <HarryCho> Ubuntu site??
[08:08] <HarryCho> ah... yeah
[08:08] <HarryCho> I see
[08:08] <NazMir> XDA would be a good bet
[08:08] <HarryCho> hey.. so if I succefully made a CM version for my device
[08:09] <HarryCho> then I would have a image....
[08:09] <HarryCho> then I flash that image into my device
[08:09] <NazMir> yes
[08:09] <HarryCho> and see if the device work with the CM
[08:09] <NazMir> yeah thats it
[08:09] <HarryCho> and then.. what file do I need to put into the build directory..?
[08:10] <HarryCho> the Ubuntu build directory I meant
[08:12] <HarryCho> NazMir..? you there?
[08:24] <Monotoko> hey all, I'm trying to get the SDK set up on my system, and I'm running through the notes and have run the command here (http://developer.ubuntu.com/get-started/gomobile/#step-get-toolkit)
[08:24] <Monotoko> but I'm not seeing this: Projects > Application > Qt Quick UI
[08:25] <Monotoko> all I'm seeing is QT Resource file :(
[08:26] <Monotoko> (I'm having a look at porting some of my apps over from iOS and Android)
[08:26] <Monotoko> (or trying to..)
[08:35] <dpm> Monotoko, have you tried this? -> http://askubuntu.com/a/259734/9781
[08:36] <Monotoko> dpm, cheers... didn't find that, looking through it now
[08:36] <dpm> Monotoko, cool, let me know if that works for you
[08:39] <Monotoko> dpm, not sure if it's because it's not even 9am here, but I'm not seeing the build&run section: http://imgur.com/cCsNxoR.jpg
[08:40] <dpm> Monotoko, that's really weird. Either it's too early for me too, or I can't see it either :)
[08:41] <dpm> which version of Ubuntu are you running?
[08:41] <Monotoko> dpm, I'm running 12.10
[08:41] <dpm> Monotoko, and did you follow these instructions to install? -> http://developer.ubuntu.com/get-started/gomobile/
[08:42] <Monotoko> dpm, yeah I did, installed everything there
[08:42] <Monotoko> and it all installed successfully
[08:43] <dpm> Monotoko, what version does Qt Creator show if you go to Help > About Qt Creator?
[08:44] <Monotoko> dpm: Qt Creator 2.6.82
[08:44] <Monotoko> Based on Qt 5.0.1 (64 bit)
[08:44] <Monotoko> also just re-ran the commands on the gomobile page: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 29 not upgraded.
[08:46] <Monotoko> this is almost a vanilla build... installed it a few days ago, is there any development librarys I need that aren't listed?
[08:46] <Monotoko> *are
[08:46] <dpm> Mirv, do you have any idea what this could be? ^^ -> missing "Build & Run" tab on http://imgur.com/cCsNxoR.jpg
[08:46] <dpm> Monotoko, ah, what do you mean by a vanilla build?
[08:47] <Monotoko> dpm, sorry I mean I've just finished building this computer... I installed the regular Ubuntu 12.10 desktop edition from the Ubuntu page
[08:48] <dpm> ok ok, I wasn't sure if you meant you had built Qt Creator yourself
[08:48] <Monotoko> nah, just did the apt-get commands on the gomobile page
[08:49] <dpm> Monotoko, and did you get any error message from Qt Creator about missing plugins when you started it?
[08:49] <Monotoko> dpm, ahhhh I forgot about that... yes, I got a lot
[08:49] <Monotoko> that could be it .-.
[08:49] <dpm> aha
[08:50] <Monotoko> that was before my morning coffee though... so I can't remember what they said :P
[08:50] <dpm> Monotoko, could you try to run these commands:
[08:50] <dpm>     sudo apt-get install libqt5declarative5
[08:50] <dpm>     sudo apt-get install libbotan*
[08:51] <Monotoko> sure
[08:52] <Monotoko> ahha! Thank you very much dpm, it worked :3
[08:52] <Monotoko> is the gomobile page editable?
[08:53] <Mirv> dpm: that's missing a lot of stuff. is ubuntu-sdk installed?
[08:53] <dpm> Monotoko, cool. Let me know if after going through http://askubuntu.com/a/259734/9781 the initial issue is solved
[08:53] <dpm> Mirv, ^^ installing the missing deps fixed it
[08:54] <Mirv> dpm: there's a fixed qtcreator with a _lot_ better dependencies built at https://launchpad.net/~canonical-qt5-edgers/+archive/qt5-staging - I will copy 12.04 & 12.10 versions to the SDK team PPA as soon as we've tested it's ok
[08:54] <Mirv> and have it uploaded for raring
[08:54] <Mirv> dpm: ok, so hopefully today that and other problems would get fixed
[08:54] <Monotoko> awesome, thanks guys
[08:54] <Monotoko> and will do dpm
[08:54] <Mirv> if there's anyone willing to test, please add ppa:canonical-qt5-edgers/qt5-staging and update qtcreator from there
[08:55] <Monotoko> Mirv, I will get it working... then update from there and see if it still works.. :)
[08:55] <Mirv> the more I get confirmations that it seems fine and nothing gets broken, the more assured I'm of getting it copied to the proper place
[08:55] <Mirv> Monotoko: sounds good!
[08:58] <Monotoko> dpm, that worked beautifully, thanks... shall update it now
[08:58] <dpm> Monotoko, \o/
[09:01] <Monotoko> Mirv, trying to update... why's it holding them back?
[09:02] <wastrel> podcasts
[09:03] <Monotoko> there we go, nevermind
[09:11] <Monotoko> Mirv, thumbs up from here on the update
[09:12] <Mirv> Monotoko: thanks!
[09:13] <card> Hi, is there someone there?
[09:14] <card> Ubuntu operating system will have for xperia mini pro?
[09:20] <Mattycee> Hi I hope someone can help me. Am I able to ask a question here?
[09:20] <iorweth> try?
[09:21] <Monotoko> card, there's no mention of that device yet... you'll have to wait for one of the devs
[09:21] <Mattycee> I installed the Preview on a Nexus 4 and it is now a black screen only, is there a way to reboot it or do I need to wait for the battery to run flat?
[09:22] <Monotoko> Mattycee, you should be able to reboot by holding the power button+up+down for a few seconds
[09:22] <Monotoko> (around 5 secs on my Nexus 10)
[09:23] <Mattycee> Thanks I tried that and it did not work and then tried it again then and within a few seconds it rebooted. Appreciate the help
[09:24] <card> Thanks, Monotoko. ll wait.
[09:41] <Monotoko> QT has got a bit better since I remember using it with the ol' Nokia/Symbian phones
[09:47] <melmoth> anyone has an example of using a screenview in qml ?
[10:48] <eftijis> good morning everyone...one question i have only... the ubuntu touch works on samsung galaxy s2 ?
[10:48] <BenLue> Hi Guys, i will buy a new Mobilefone. Wich devices supports Ubuntu Mobile OS?
[10:49] <Tigrouzen> You wanna buy phone and then you want push ubuntu ?
[10:49] <BenLue> yes
[10:49] <dun1982> Go with the nexus line
[10:49] <dun1982> Nexus 4 is the only phone that support ubuntu touch.
[10:50] <Tigrouzen> dun1982, ^^ its depending
[10:50] <om26er> *the only*  ?
[10:50] <dun1982> Well, it is the only one at this moment that supports it.
[10:50] <dun1982> All the other are WIP.
[10:50] <Tigrouzen> om26er, the only one dun1982 like ^^
[10:50] <om26er> what about Galaxy Nexus ?
[10:51] <Tigrouzen> BenLue, all phone based on arm
[10:51] <om26er> right
[10:51] <dun1982> Hey, I'm using DesireZ and Galaxy Tab 7.7 which I know I can get working with time, but if the question was that what supports, then the answer is the Nexus line in official wiki page.
[10:51] <Tigrouzen> BenLue, better is Omap why ? Because all Ubuntu arm based first on Omap
[10:51] <ogra_> heh
[10:51] <BenLue> Nexus 4 is from LG?
[10:52] <om26er> BenLue, yes
[10:52] <ogra_> ubuntyu arm does/did ... but that doesnt matter in a world where we use an android base anymore
[10:52] <dun1982> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
[10:52] <dun1982> So either Galaxy Nexus or Nexus 4
[10:52] <ogra_> OMAP is a dead architecture ...
[10:53] <ogra_> (TI killed it and fired everyone working on mobile OMAP)
[10:53] <dun1982> I'm currently using Lumia 920 as my daily driver, but last phone I really liked was the DesireZ. Sadly it's 800mhz soc is not good for ubuntu I think...
[10:53] <ogra_> yeah, you want diualcore and at least 1G
[10:54] <ogra_> or even quad and 2G
[10:54] <Tigrouzen> ogra_, i dont have this news thanks
[10:54] <ogra_> if you want to do actual development
[10:54] <ogra_> (it helps if you can quickly test compile on the device)
[10:55] <om26er> anyone got the phone shell working on the desktop ?
[10:55] <ogra_> Tigrouzen, funnily blackberry still uses it in their new devices :)
[10:56] <ogra_> om26er, it dpoesnt use X11 ... might not be easy to get going (unless you run the full image in a qemu instance or so)
[10:57] <ogra_> (or make surfaceflinger work on your desktop machine)
[10:59] <om26er> i wonder what the android x86 guys are doing running surfaceflinger on laptops/netbooks then ?
[10:59] <Tigrouzen> ogra_, Android x86 ;)
[10:59] <Tigrouzen> ^^
[10:59] <ogra_> yeah, i was proposing that already
[10:59] <ogra_> seems CM doesnt really like x86 yet
[11:00] <Tigrouzen> om26er, i make it
[11:00] <Tigrouzen> ogra_, u can instal Phone shell on Desktop
[11:00] <Ford_Prefect> If you're feeling a bit crazy, you could build the x86 emulator :)
[11:00] <Tigrouzen> ogra_, its compiled for i386 and Amd64 too
[11:00] <om26er> Tigrouzen, cool, you are ;)
[11:00] <Tigrouzen> Ford_Prefect, no its realy compiled
[11:00] <ogra_> sure, but it wants to talk directly to the HW
[11:00] <Tigrouzen> And its work
[11:00] <Ford_Prefect> Tigrouzen: ah, since it's QML?
[11:01] <Tigrouzen> Ford_Prefect, yes
[11:01] <ogra_> if anyone could make CM work on x86 that would be awesome
[11:01] <ogra_> and bring is a full emulator to the desktop
[11:01] <Tigrouzen> Ford_Prefect, ah no use something other like HUD with Unity or Weston...
[11:01] <halcycon> hi all
[11:01] <ogra_> s/is/us/
[11:02] <Tigrouzen> wait i share screenshot
[11:02] <halcycon> ogra_: got my p3100 working with touch :)
[11:02] <ogra_> yay
[11:02] <halcycon> ogra_: thanks for your help the other day
[11:02] <ogra_> :)
[11:03] <halcycon> my port didnt work in the end, but at 7.20 last night someone reused the code from porting the p5110 to make the 3100 work
[11:03] <om26er> halcycon, does the camera work ?
[11:03] <halcycon> so I'm sure I'll crack it once I can compare the build differences
[11:03] <halcycon> om26er: yep :-)
[11:04] <halcycon> however (and this is why I'm here today :-P)
[11:04] <om26er> would be cool to see the Nexus 7 front camera work as well
[11:04] <halcycon> I get that rotation doesn't work, so I'm in landscape
[11:04] <halcycon> but the touch interface still seems to behave as though the tablet is in portrait :-S
[11:04] <halcycon> so it swipes at 90deg to the actual interface
[11:04] <om26er> halcycon, like the notification area drop down taking the whole screen ?
[11:05] <halcycon> om26er: no, I have the resolution corrected
[11:05] <halcycon> #well actually what I did was:
[11:05] <halcycon> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=38456296
[11:06] <halcycon> and followed the bit under - to configure the resolution
[11:06] <halcycon> I could change it back and see if the touch interface is the right way round, then I have a screen at the wrong resolution :-(
[11:07] <halcycon> so effectively I've changed the webkit version being exported and the form factor
[11:08] <halcycon> and the GRID_UNIT_PX
[11:08] <Tigrouzen> http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/capturedcran-28022013-034329.php
[11:08] <Tigrouzen> http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/capturedcran-28022013-034446.php
[11:08] <Tigrouzen> and its work verry welll !!!
[11:12] <halcycon> is there anything I can do like switch the axes for touch inpiut
[11:12] <halcycon> *input
[11:18] <halcycon> can I use xrandr on touch?
[11:19] <ogra_> no, xrandr needs X11
[11:19] <P3T3> Hi all, I am trying to compile Ubuntu Touch for ac100. I have made kernel and device direcories but while trying to brunch paz00 I get error
[11:19] <halcycon> damn I was afraid of that :-(
[11:19] <P3T3> *** No rule to make target `out/target/common/obj/APPS/framework-res_intermediates/src/R.stamp', needed by `out/target/common/obj/APPS/DSPManager_intermediates/src/R.stamp'.
[11:19] <P3T3> any hint?
[11:19] <halcycon> P3T3: did you run extract-files.sh?
[11:20] <ogra_> P3T3, as i said in the ac100 channel, you need to make sure nothing from the /APPS subdir is used, as all of this stuff uses java/dalvik
[11:21] <halcycon> so is there a "flinger equivalent" of xrandr? :-)
[11:22] <P3T3> halcycon, good tip, I will check it
[11:22] <halcycon> P3T3: and see if that throws any errors - gave me an issue with my p3100 where it hadn't copied /sbin/cbd
[11:22] <dun1982> Hey, I have a really a issue with my gt-p6800 device. I have the cyanogenmod kernel available to that device, but how can I make device configuration for it to cyanogenmod repository as well?
[11:23] <dun1982> I mean there are few repo's in github available for that specific device, but all of them are old or do not work anymore with the current kernel...
[11:23] <ogra_> you could try to grab the config from /proc/config.gz on a running device
[11:23] <ogra_> and start from that
[11:23] <dun1982> I have the source code for the existing CM10.1 implementation made by Iocerra, but it needs some work to do.
[11:23] <dun1982> And it is in his own repository.
[11:24] <dun1982> What I would like to have is an official cyanogenmod or ubuntu-touch device configuration repository.
[11:24] <ogra_> phablet.ubuntu.com you mean ?
[11:25] <dun1982> I mean either cyanogenmod 10.1 device configuration or what ever we start using in the touch to keep up the needed configuration data to build images
[11:25] <baltic> Is there anything ubuntu-touch related going on at the CeBit in Hannover next week?
[11:26] <dun1982> not just bunch of private repositories that may or may not work with some version, but actually community supported repository/configuration for build.
[11:26] <ogra_> i dont think so
[11:33] <halcycon> ok guys, so I have worked out how to fix the rotation (sort of) silly android question now: how do I edit build.prop? trying to vi over adb root/shell but getting readonly :-/
[11:37] <halcycon> ignore my last :-)
[11:53] <dun1982> halcycon: if no editor available or if adb-push is out of question, then use echo "" > build.prop approach :)
[11:54] <dun1982> Or echo "row1" >> build.prop for line by line copy pasting :)
[11:56] <dun1982> Hey, can someone add my contact information to "Work in progress", Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.7 (p6800) https://launchpad.net/~dun1982
[12:02] <TToivanen> Tigrouzen, Gonna build now with the correct init.rc
[12:03] <TToivanen> Tigrouzen, You talked to Uto last night?
[12:03] <Tigrouzen> TToivanen,
[12:06] <TToivanen> Tigrouzen, ?
[12:07] <Tigrouzen> TToivanen, yes
[12:07] <TToivanen> Any news? He said something about uchroot.sh and uchroot.c
[12:08] <Tigrouzen> TToivanen, booted ?
[12:09] <TToivanen> Nope, I'm flashing the build with fixed init ATM
[12:10] <ozy> anyone testing on a droid 3?
[12:11] <kajjah> ppl, will we be able to install ubuntu touch on Samaung Galaxy tab when the full version is out?
[12:12] <TToivanen> kajjah, Has someone ported it?
[12:12] <kajjah> i dont think so.
[12:13] <TToivanen> kajjah, Then you won't be able to flash it. Somebody gotta port it first.
[12:13] <Tigrouzen> kajjah, depending hardware
[12:14] <kajjah> So, it seems that it is technically possible to do it rt?
[12:14] <ogra_> kajjah, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
[12:14] <ogra_> there is a tab and a note image ...
[12:14] <ogra_> (note still being WIP)
[12:15] <ogra_> dun1982, its a wiki, just add yourself
[12:16] <kajjah> ok, but i need a port to Galaxy Tab 10.1 GT-P 7500.
[12:17] <ogra_> you could try to make  call on the xda dev forums
[12:17] <kajjah> i shall try to make a port, Samsung has officially stopped all OS update to Galaxy Tab 10.1.
[12:17] <ogra_> or just port it yourself
[12:19] <kajjah> Thanks Tigrouzen
[12:19] <Tigrouzen> kajjah, if CM10.1 all ready ported then its more easy
[12:20] <TToivanen> Tigrouzen, Now, with correct init.rc, I executed ubuntu-session without error. Screen is still black, what to do?
[12:20] <kajjah> ya, that true. CM is already ported
[12:22] <ozy> so, I installed touch on my droid 3 using hashcode's port... it boots.. but the lock screen wont react to anything or unlock...
[12:23] <ogra_> ozy, there is no lock screen, swipe from the left
[12:23] <ozy> damn
[12:23] <ozy> no reaction
[12:23] <ogra_> kajjah, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting  shoudl get you going
[12:24] <ozy> the only thing that does anything appears to be the power button
[12:24] <kajjah> Thanks ogra_
[12:25] <TToivanen> Tigrouzen, Now, with correct init.rc, I executed ubuntu-session without error. Screen is still black, what to do?
[12:26] <Tigrouzen> adb shell
[12:26] <Tigrouzen> ps
[12:26] <ozy> should we be wiping dalvik/cache like we do with android roms?
[12:26] <TToivanen> I'm already in phablet@localhost
[12:26] <TToivanen> So do i type exit
[12:27] <TToivanen>   PID TTY          TIME CMD
[12:27] <TToivanen>  1048 pts/0    00:00:00 sh
[12:27] <TToivanen>  1067 pts/0    00:00:00 su
[12:27] <TToivanen>  1068 pts/0    00:00:00 bash
[12:27] <TToivanen>  4944 pts/0    00:00:00 ps
[12:27] <Tigrouzen> ctrl+d
[12:27] <Tigrouzen> ps
[12:28] <TToivanen> http://pastebin.com/4D4wetxx
[12:29] <Tigrouzen> TToivanen, hmm ubuntuservice not runing....
[12:29] <Tigrouzen> TToivanen, adb pull init.rc
[12:30] <TToivanen> http://pastebin.com/7rXeVeDH
[12:31] <Tigrouzen> ok
[12:32] <Tigrouzen> just on adb shell
[12:32] <Tigrouzen> ubuntuappmanger
[12:32] <Tigrouzen> ubuntuappmanager
[12:32] <TToivanen> /system/bin/sh: ubuntuappmanager: not found
[12:32] <Tigrouzen> ah
[12:35] <om26er> I installed the Ubuntu sdk by following the raring instructions and now I see this when i open qtcreator http://ubuntuone.com/3qpnnWrXqX2CzrCTFeEG1l
[12:35] <Tigrouzen> om26er, sudo apt-get install libbotan*
[12:37] <TToivanen> Tigrouzen, How do I get ubuntuappmanager?
[12:37] <om26er> Tigrouzen, tried but still the same
[12:37] <Tigrouzen> om26er, ubuntu-sdk ?
[12:37] <Tigrouzen> om26er, ubuntu-qtcreator ?
[12:38] <Tigrouzen> om26er, you need install it
[12:38] <om26er> Tigrouzen, there is not ubuntu-qtcreator for me
[12:38] <om26er> s/not/no
[12:38] <Tigrouzen> om26er, on terminal
[12:38] <Tigrouzen> type : ubuntu-qtcreator
[12:39] <om26er> there is ubuntu-qtcreator-plugins and no ubuntu-qtcreator
[12:39] <om26er> ubuntu-qtcreator: command not found
[12:39] <TToivanen> Tigrouzen, Why do I have a process "sleep" active?
[12:39] <Tigrouzen> TToivanen, i have too
[12:39] <TToivanen> OK
[12:40] <Tigrouzen> TToivanen, difficult to find why he dont compile it
[12:40] <Tigrouzen> Ubuntu appmanager
[12:41] <Tigrouzen> om26er, try install ubuntu-sdk
[12:42] <om26er> Tigrouzen, i am installing ubuntu-qtcreator-qt5libs which was not installed previously that may help
 should we be wiping dalvik/cache like we do with android roms? <- cache is nothing more than recovery stuff and wiping it is irrelevant even for android, and the dalvik-cache doesn't exist on ubuntu for phones as the dalvik vm is not present nor is it used
[12:42] <om26er> Tigrouzen, and ubuntu-sdk is already installed
[12:42] <Tigrouzen> ;)
[12:43] <TToivanen> Is ubuntuappmanager absolutely necessary for proper functioning?
[12:43] <Tigrouzen> TToivanen, yes
[12:43] <TToivanen> Crap.
[12:44] <ali1234> rsalveti: if you missed it last night i now know exactly why SIGWINCH and enter don't work. fixing it however...
[12:44] <ogra_> great !
[12:45] <ozy> lilstevie: thanks!
[12:47] <ozy> trying to figure out why my screen was not responsive. for the record, wiping those two caused issues...
[12:47] <ozy> lol
[12:47] <ali1234> one of the problems is adb does not have out of band signalling for the shell
[12:47] <ali1234> ssh does, that's how it implements SIGWINCH
[12:48] <om26er> Tigrouzen, is seems libqt5declarative5 was not installed. now is fine.
[12:48] <om26er> http://askubuntu.com/questions/259561/qtcreator-error-cant-load-library-projectexplorer2-6-82
[12:59] <TToivanen> ubuntu-session says:
[12:59] <TToivanen> Redirecting output to local session logs
[12:59] <TToivanen> How can I access those?
[13:01] <dun1982> /var/logs?
[13:07] <TToivanen> The upstart log is empty? dafuq
[13:12] <lilstevie> TToivanen, /home/phablet/.ubuntu-session/logs/
[13:12] <optimus> i need a bit of help in fixing an issue on a port, any one can help?
[13:13] <ogra_> optimus, if you dont ask your question nobody will know
[13:14] <optimus> ok :P here i post the logcat link. it boots but touch not working
[13:15] <ogra_> touch not working ? you dont get a launcher if you swipe from the left on a freshly booted device ?
[13:15] <optimus> http://pastebin.com/VMj5wJE5
[13:16] <optimus> no, only home screen, touch doesnt work, screen on and off works by pressing power button
[13:16] <lilstevie> some devices have some really weird setup with proprietary touchscreen drivers
[13:16] <optimus> just boots and shows home screen
[13:16] <gianguido> optimus, device? lg thing?
[13:16] <optimus> lg p990
[13:17] <TToivanen> Tigrouzen, Could this be a reason why I can't see display? http://pastebin.com/pesHi8SN
[13:19] <lilstevie> hm
[13:19] <lilstevie> I/InputDispatcher(  471): Dropped event because input dispatch is disabled.
[13:19] <lilstevie> looks rather sus
[13:19] <lilstevie> :p
[13:19] <ogra_> yeah
[13:24] <optimus> yes
[13:24] <optimus> looking for the cause
[13:28] <tvoss> lilstevie, optimus that might well be connected to a missing driver for the touchscreen or a missing calibration file
[13:29] <optimus> ok
[13:29] <lilstevie> tvoss, yeah not sure if it has one of those really odd corner cases, moto are generally the ones that go to that extreme (where twrp needs to mount system otherwise the touch driver doesn't work)
[13:30] <tvoss> lilstevie, yup, might well be that it is needed to compensate for weird h/w
[13:30] <tvoss> lilstevie, can you dig the logcat output right after boot to check for any messages from the input stack?
[13:30] <lilstevie> tvoss, it isn't me
[13:30] <tvoss> lilstevie, ups, sorry :)
[13:31] <tvoss> optimus, can you dig the logcat output right after boot to check for any messages from the input stack?
[13:31] <lilstevie> :p
[13:31] <optimus> the logcat posted above is from start of boot till 1-2 minutes after boot
[13:32] <Monotoko> this example code, the button doesn't position right unless it's outside the item: http://developer.ubuntu.com/api/ubuntu-12.10/qml/mobile/qml-ubuntu-components-popups0-dialog.html
[13:32] <Monotoko> am I just using it wrong, or is that an oversight?
[13:40] <Mirv> hi! heads up, I will be updating qtcreator for 12.04 and 12.10 in the ubuntu-sdk-team PPA soonish. just a pre-warning.
[13:41] <Mikey___> hello
[13:41] <bcurtiswx> Not enough space in /data, found 3.2G trying to phablet-flash
[13:41] <bcurtiswx> didn't see anything online about that
[13:42] <Mikey___> anyone used this method to install ? http://www.qbking77.com/development/how-to-install-ubuntu-touch-developer-preview-on-nexus-devices.html
[13:42] <ogra_> bcurtiswx, we dont wipe your /data currently ...
[13:42] <ogra_> bcurtiswx, so do that yourself
[13:42] <ogra_> (before installing)
[13:43] <bcurtiswx> ogra_, do i have to ssh into the device ?
[13:43] <ogra_> you could do it with fastboot
[13:43] <ogra_> sudo fastboot erase userdata ... before installling
[13:44] <Mikey___> would that remove internal storage ogra_ ?
[13:44] <bcurtiswx> ogra_, OK thanks :)
[13:44] <ogra_> Mikey___, it would format the userdata partition
[13:44] <ogra_> (and empty it)
[13:45] <ali1234> hmm
[13:46] <Mikey___> ogra_, I'm installing onto a Nexus 10 and have done a nandroid and have then used the phablet-flash -b which went ok but booted into black screen. The user guide on ubuntu says to then wipe data and try again, but I dont really want to remove the nandroid on Internal Storage
[13:46] <ogra_> you want to install a new OS but not overwrite the old one ?
[13:47] <Tassadar> Mikey___: TWRP can erase /data while leavin the /data/media intact, which recovery do you have?
[13:47] <ali1234> where can i find a gcc in phablet?
[13:47] <ogra_> apt/get install gcc ?
[13:47] <Mikey___> look at the link i posted before it is possible to flash ubuntu as a zip through recovery without wiping internal, plus should this not be done during the bootstrap if it was required ?
[13:47] <ogra_> *apt-get
[13:47] <ali1234> ogra_: for arm :)
[13:47] <ali1234> ogra_: for desktop side
[13:48] <ogra_> apt-get install gcc-gueabihf or some such ?
[13:48] <ali1234> isn't there one in the phablet repo somewhere?
[13:48] <Tassadar> ali1234: http://phablet.ubuntu.com/gitweb?p=platform/prebuilts/gcc/linux-x86/arm/arm-eabi-4.6.git;a=summary
[13:48] <ali1234> yes but where does it go when it is built :)
[13:48] <ali1234> oh wait, prebuilt?
[13:48] <ali1234> ok then
[13:49] <Tassadar> got me confused for a moment there)
[13:49] <ogra_> ali1234, sudo apt-get install gcc-arm-linux-gnueabihf
[13:50] <ogra_> ali1234, thats our cross toolchain (and identical to wahts unpackaged in the git tree)
[13:50] <ali1234> ok, thanks
[13:50] <lilstevie> Mikey___, you do know you can back them up from the internal to your computer right?
[13:50] <dun1982> Hey do we have build-essentials basicly for arm as well?
[13:51] <Mikey___> yeah just wondering if wiping internal storgae was a requirement seen as it isnt done during the bootstrap proccess
[13:51] <ali1234> Mikey___: it's a requirment if you have 1.5GB or less on data
[13:51] <Tigrouzen> We cant add forked git on manifest he say's error reposotery not found...
[13:52] <Mikey___> I have 32GB nexus 10 but I got a black screen after install
[13:52] <lilstevie> Mikey___, yes, but I'm sure you don't have 32GB free ;)
[13:52] <Mikey___> no actually i have around 15GB
[13:52] <ogra_> Mikey___, yes, thats a bug, we will add wiping to the script (with asking the user first indeed)
[13:53] <Mikey___> arrr okay well I will wipe then :) thanks for clearing that up
[13:57] <P3T3> what I am dong wrong ending with this error: *** No rule to make target ...... /obj/lib/libandroid_runtime.so ?
[13:57] <TToivanen> P3T3, pastebin please. Probably you have some java stuff trying to compile
[13:59] <P3T3> TToivanen, http://pastebin.com/fVZrnPe2
[13:59] <ogra_> P3T3, make sure to have removed all java/dalvik bits from your manifest .... specifically stuff using the /apps or /APPS dirs
[14:00] <ogra_> oh, ugly, complain to nvidia
[14:00] <ogra_> seems like you need to disable the camera driver
[14:01] <lilstevie> sounds about right
[14:01] <TToivanen> P3T3, What device?
[14:01] <P3T3> TToivanen, Toshiba AC100
[14:01] <lilstevie> paz00 that is AC100 right?
[14:01] <lilstevie> yep
[14:01] <lilstevie> :p
[14:01] <TToivanen> Got the same with my one X but it got fixed in the upstream.
[14:01] <ogra_> yeah, funnily with the ubuntu kernel it just uses iuvcvideo without probs
[14:02] <ogra_> *uvcvideo
[14:04] <P3T3> ogra_, where to disable cam driver? In kernel there is no enabled
[14:04] <ogra_> hmm, no idea
[14:05] <ogra_> how does your manifest changes look like ?
[14:05] <Tassadar> daily builds are using phablet.ubuntu.com repos, sweet!
[14:05] <ogra_> *do
[14:05] <ogra_> yeah :)
[14:05] <lilstevie> ogra_, heh, I've never really worked too much on getting cameras working on the tfx01 but on the android side camera depends on gralloc et al.
[14:06] <ogra_> well, we use surfaceflinger with gralloc i think
[14:06] <TToivanen> How would I go about fixing logcat? unable to open log device '/dev/log/main' no such file or directory
[14:06] <P3T3> there is USE_CAMERA_STUB := false in BoardConfig.mk :-(
[14:06] <ogra_> but this clearly tries dalvik stuff
[14:10] <ali1234> ogra_: i built a simple exe with gcc-arm-linux-gnueabihf but it won't run on the device. i need the gcc that builds against bionic...
[14:10] <ogra_> oh, right, the one from the sdk i guess
[14:10] <ogra_> err, wait
[14:10] <ogra_> inside the ubuntu chroot it should work with the normal cross gcc
[14:11] <ali1234> yes but i don't want to run it inside the chroot
[14:11] <ogra_> the bionic enabled one should only be needed for the android side
[14:11] <ogra_> aha
[14:11] <ogra_> yeah, that needs the one from the git tree
[14:11] <ali1234> should have mentioned this before
[14:11] <ogra_> i doubt you will find any packages for it
[14:11] <ali1234> anywhoo... i tried to use the prebuilt gcc and it can't find stdio.h etc
[14:11] <ali1234> how am i supposed to invoke it?
[14:13] <ogra_> dunno, how does brunch do it ?
[14:13] <ogra_> same invokation should work for you
[14:14] <ali1234> ah, maybe with envsetup.sh?
[14:14] <ogra_> sounds right
[14:17] <ali1234> nope
[14:19] <ricmm> win 22
[14:19] <ricmm> darn
[14:20] <P3T3> camera removed in file "device/toshiba/paz00/paz00.mk" , section "PRODUCT_PACKAGES += \" where deleted line "camera.tegra \"
[14:24] <Mirv> if anyone has a couple of minutes extra time and uses 12.04 and 12.10 with the PPA:s, please upgrade - the sdk PPA's qtcreator got updated, and I'd like to once again double-check the upgrade goes fine. it shouldn't change anything, at most pull in a couple of extra packages
[14:25] <Mirv> there will be one more qtcreator precise update in about 1.5h that will get rid of the adb dependency (which is not currently in precise) for the ubuntu-qtcreator-plugins
[14:28] <Tigrouzen> I dont undestand i add my git repo but i dont get error and he dont download it
[14:29] <Tigrouzen>   <project name="Tigrouzen/android_device_samsung_wave" path="device/samsung/wave" remote="github" revision="jellybean" />
[14:29] <Tigrouzen>   <project name="Tigrouzen/android_kernel_samsung_wave" path="kernel/samsung/wave" remote="github" revision="jellybean" />
[14:30] <agb2> hi all, what is the best way to backup my device prior to flashing ubuntu onto it?
[14:35] <TToivanen> Tigrouzen, Shouldn't revision be cm-10.1?
[14:35] <agb2> i'm not asking for a walkthrough, I just wanted to know what method/tools people recommend, then I can figure out the rest from there
[14:36] <Tigrouzen> TToivanen, its just link for my git before forked its work i ported Jb too cm10.1
[14:36] <Tigrouzen> TToivanen, he doesnt like forked...
[14:37] <ogra_> agb2, i heard people use nandroid backup to make full backups of their devices
[14:37] <TToivanen> agb2, I'm using an ordinary nandroid backup
[14:37] <ogra_> *snap*
[14:37] <ogra_> :)
[14:38] <agb2> alright, cheers. I wasn't sure if something more than nandroid might have been necessary.
[14:38] <agb2> Thanks
[14:42] <One_> Hello?
[14:42] <One_> Hello?
[14:43] <One_> Hey...
[14:43] <TToivanen> One_, Wut?
[14:44] <One_> Oh.. I know no one here
[14:44] <ogra_> only 288 people. yeah
[14:44] <One_> Sorry I'm korean so I can't English correctly
[14:44] <One_> Hmm..
[14:45] <Tigrouzen> TToivanen, new patch on phablet
[14:45] <Tigrouzen> TToivanen, and for kernel too on fs/proc/array.c
[14:46] <One_> Do you know when release Ububtu for phones formula version?
[14:46] <One_> Sorry I'm korean so I can't English correctly
[14:46] <ogra_> full release will be in april 2014
[14:46] <TToivanen> Tigrouzen, I started sync like one hour ago. I start it again I guess...
[14:47] <Tigrouzen> TToivanen, you need manualy change array.c
[14:47] <Tigrouzen> TToivanen, no you dont need but for array.c  you need do it yourself
[14:48] <One_> 2014 april??
[14:48] <ogra_> One_, right
[14:48] <Tigrouzen> not sure maybe 2015 ^^
[14:49] <ogra_> nope
[14:49] <ogra_> 14.04 is our release date
[14:49] <TToivanen> Tigrouzen, How do you know this?
[14:49] <ogra_> for the full converged device on phone, tablet and desktop
[14:49] <ogra_> in 13.10 the phone and tablet bits should be production ready though
[14:49] <Tigrouzen> TToivanen, http://phablet.ubuntu.com/gitweb?o=age
[14:50] <One_> I have knew release today.......Oh.. I have believed release MWC....
[14:50] <ogra_> at MWC we released a "developer preview"
[14:50] <Tigrouzen> TToivanen, http://phablet.ubuntu.com/gitweb?p=CyanogenMod/android_kernel_samsung_tuna.git;a=blobdiff;f=fs/proc/array.c;h=867889585e3ee2f6f63b327ad9609ce9c09ca5ae;hp=9b45ee84fbccd584144fd942ffe8fcca34c47b50;hb=c2deee221f0feae621641538311e6eea960cbc9a;hpb=d8e20fe0d6cd15068bff89dccd1df2adf9bf7afc
[15:00] <the-gibson> for whoever is interested, SpaceX is launching one of their Falcon9 rockets in about 10 min
[15:00] <the-gibson> http://www.ustream.tv/channel/nasa-media-channel
[15:09] <TToivanen> Tigrouzen, so I'm gonna make the changes described there to my own kernel, right?
[15:14] <Tigrouzen> yes
[15:15] <Tigrouzen> hmm
[15:15] <Tigrouzen> doesnt boot ^^
[15:16] <Tigrouzen> shit
[15:16] <Tigrouzen> update and no ore work
[15:16] <IReboot> Tigrouzen: I would like to add the Ubuntu-Touch interface to a Raring Virtual box guest. Can I do this by just adding "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/phablet-team/ppa/ubuntu raring main" to my source list, then updating?
[15:16] <ogra_> hah, jono incognito
[15:17] <Tigrouzen> IReboot, need some more stuff i tried to but looks some bug on raring i think work on quantal
[15:17] <Tigrouzen> TToivanen, update doesnt boot screen
[15:18] <TToivanen> Tigrouzen, Crap.
[15:18] <TToivanen> Tigrouzen, I wonder if it works for me, gonna use the patch enyways
[15:18] <IReboot> Tigrouzen: Ok then I will stick to a 12.10 Virtual box guest. Thanks
[15:19] <Tigrouzen> TToivanen, surfaceflinger crash
[15:20] <TToivanen> Tigrouzen, I hope I could use logcat like you LOL
[15:20] <Tigrouzen> just dmesg
[15:20] <TToivanen> Oh
[15:21] <ali1234> Mirv: updated. still no ubuntu projects in qt creator on quantal
[15:21] <TToivanen> Do you know why my logcat fails? I get unable to open log device '/dev/log/main' no such file or directory
[15:21] <Tigrouzen> logcat doesnt in ubuntu
[15:21] <TToivanen> Oh, that's good to know :D
[15:21] <Tigrouzen> TToivanen, oh no sorry
[15:22] <Tigrouzen> TToivanen, need activate it
[15:22] <TToivanen> Kernel stuff?
[15:23] <TToivanen> Tigrouzen, Hm do you mind telling me how to activate it?
[15:25] <Mirv> ali1234: thanks for testing that at least the upgrade works. can you install ubuntu-sdk, or do you already have it installed?
[15:25] <Tigrouzen> TToivanen, yes onemin
[15:25] <TToivanen> Tigrouzen, Thank you. :)
[15:26] <Mirv> ali1234: if yes, and you don't have anything precious in Qt Creator configuration, try rm -r .config/Trolltech.conf .config/Qt*
[15:26] <Mirv> ali1234: this week we've learned that qt creator can misconfigure itself in various ways if not everything is installed when it's started for the first time, and the easiest way to reconfigure it is by deleting the old configuration
[15:27] <Mirv> ali1234: I just testified myself in a quantal environment how that brought me the Ubuntu UI wizard options
[15:28] <Tigrouzen> TToivanen, adb shell
[15:28] <Tigrouzen> TToivanen, ubuntu_chroot shell
[15:28] <Tigrouzen> TToivanen, cd /var/log/
[15:28] <Tigrouzen> ls -l
[15:28] <Mirv> also manual reconfiguration of Qt Creator is possible, if needed
[15:29] <TToivanen> Tigrouzen, I'm not booted up atm, wait a min
[15:29] <Tigrouzen> TToivanen, all log is there
[15:30] <Tigrouzen> TToivanen, best is like just adb cp /data/ubuntu/var/log/ /"yourfolder"
[15:31] <TToivanen> Tigrouzen, thanks, will do that.
[15:32] <Tigrouzen> oops sorry TToivanen i shake ubuntu and android
[15:32] <Tigrouzen> TToivanen, its adb pull ^^
[15:32] <TToivanen> Right :D
[15:34] <Mirv> ali1234: as a final note, the bug describing the whole problem of Qt Creator configuration is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtcreator/+bug/1135336
[15:43] <ali1234> Mirv: ubuntu-sdk is installed. deleted those file, no difference
[15:46] <Mirv> ali1234: can you try removing qt4-qmake package (I have a hunch you have that installed), remove the configuration again and try then?
[15:46] <ali1234> Mirv: yes, i have that installed. i also have necessitas SDK installed
[15:46] <ali1234> i don't know how to uninstall necessitas since it is not distro packaged
[15:47] <Mirv> ali1234: if you have the package 'qt4-qmake' installed, you can try removing it alone. having it installed apparently makes qt creator misconfigure itself - you can also try the manual steps to fix the configuration by adding Qt 5 in Qt Creator settings
[15:48] <ali1234> Mirv: nope, still doesn't work
[15:49] <Mirv> ali1234: it might be then that the necessitas SDK installs Qt4 qmake somehow else, Qt Creator notices it and disables Qt 5 - I'm not sure about exact steps, but see the bug report (refresh the page if you have it open already) and the "Manually fixing Qt Creator settings"
[15:49] <ali1234> yeah that would be my guess. although i have no qt4-qmake on path now
[15:51] <rsalveti> morning
[15:52] <rsalveti> ali1234: yeah, saw, quite nice btw
[15:53] <rsalveti> guess it'd be cool to add out of band signaling support, just not sure about the effort needed
[15:53] <rsalveti> but it'd probably be a nice thing to push even at android upstream
[15:54] <ali1234> Mirv: in qt versions i only have Qt 5.0.0 (/opt/qt5/bin) as manual, and it has a big red warning next to it. nothing at all in automatic.
[15:54] <Mirv> ok my last update for now: qtcreator updated once more for 12.04 users, "test26" ending in the version. you can now install 'ubuntu-sdk' and fix or reset your Qt Creator configuration as instructed at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtcreator/+bug/1135336
[15:54] <Mirv> dpm: ^
[15:55] <Mirv> ali1234: ah, that sounds like Beta 1 PPA time legacy stuff. please check http://askubuntu.com/questions/254800/how-can-i-update-the-ubuntu-sdk-preview-from-the-qt-5-beta-ppa-to-the-qt-5-relea - especially the PATH removal from .bashrc
[15:55] <Tigrouzen> update source now surfaceflinger crash
[15:55] <ali1234> Mirv: yes. i ppa purged the old ppa but it just won't die
[15:55] <ali1234> did i mention i'm going to install sailfish sdk too?
[15:56] <Mirv> ali1234: kill it better! :) but if creator gets qmake from /opt/qt5/bin, it sounds like there's something in there, and also that you're setting a PATH parameter somewhere that makes qt creator notice it
[15:56] <Mirv> ali1234: sounds great, we're all a big family with these Qt SDK:s ;)
[15:56] <ali1234> the thing is it's not an automatic entry it is manual
[15:56] <ali1234> and even after i renamed /opt/qt5 and wiped the config files, it is still there
[15:57] <Mirv> ali1234: that's normal, Qt Creator automatically finds it and still calls it manual...
[15:57] <ali1234> so it definitely isn't picking it up from paths
[15:57] <ali1234> how can it find it if i renamed the directory it is in?
[15:57] <Mirv> ali1234: hmm, then it sounds like somehow the rm -r .config/Qt* isn't working you properly, because otherwise it couldn't be there
[15:57] <Mirv> ali1234: maybe it's only in the Creator configuration and it's not getting wiped with rm for some reason.. or something
[15:58] <ali1234> well, note rm -r will fail if first argument doesn't exist
[15:58] <ali1234> however i added -f
[15:58] <Mirv> yeah, I just don't want to do offer -rf instructions, people doing a typo and be furious..
[15:59] <Mirv> you could try grep -r opt * in .config or something to try finding out where the setting is
[15:59] <Mirv> and grep opt .[a-z]* in $HOME
[15:59] <ali1234> ok, i'll try it
[16:00] <ali1234> i'm not desparate for a fix or anything, i;m going to reinstall next week anyway
[16:01] <Mirv> ok. I'm interested anyhow if you happen to find what caused the /opt/qt5/bin stickyness (which probably causes the rest of the problem)
[16:01]  * Mirv signs off, Friday 6pm and need for food
[16:02] <ali1234> Mirv: sure, i'll let you know what i find
[16:02] <ali1234> and thanks
[16:04] <ali1234> rsalveti: i sent detailed findings about terminal stuff to the ML. i was thinking about making ^L "magic" and send SIGWINCH but i think it also needs to transmit the new size. busybox resize uses a horrible hack of moving the cursor to 999,999 and then checking actual position with vt100 escape codes. i think bash etc just uses an ioctl which won't work.
[16:06] <devslash> Is anyone using the latest nightly of ubuntu touch
[16:07] <devslash> Has cannonical posted changelogs between builds for developers to see what has been fixed or improved?
[16:07] <ali1234> not yet
[16:08] <ogra_> devslash, see the mailing list
[16:08] <devslash> Ali not yet for which question
[16:08] <ali1234> second question
[16:08] <devslash> Ogra where do I find that at
[16:08] <ogra_> i think its linked from each of the wikipages
[16:09] <devslash> Oh okay. I i used the 2-26
[16:09] <ogra_> definitely from the contribute one
[16:09] <ali1234> https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/msg00595.html
[16:09] <devslash> Ok thanks
[16:12] <ali1234> i made a functional test from the adb terminal input code: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5576664/
[16:12] <ali1234> i need to do this with nano next i think
[16:12] <devslash> Ogra are you using the latest nightly
[16:12] <ali1234> since it is obviously doing something different
[16:13] <Kurlon_> So, haven't had a chance to pour though the porting guide yet, but assuming I've got a device with a working CM10 build env, is ubuntu touch essentially an overlay on top of that?
[16:13] <ogra_> devslash, nope, any issues with it (i put them on cdimage.ubuntu.com)
[16:13] <devslash> Karlin yea kind of I'm on cm10
[16:13] <ali1234> Kurlon: sort of
[16:13] <devslash> I made a nandroid backup factory reset and flash 2 zip files
[16:13] <ali1234> Kurlon: it is actually a cut down version of CM. you need to bring over device specific repos
[16:14] <ali1234> and remove dalvik/java stuff
[16:14] <ali1234> it's all in the guide
[16:14] <Kurlon> Guess I need to start reading then. :D
[16:14] <Kurlon> I've got a Nook Color that just screams 'port to me!' :D
[16:14] <ogra_> reading definitely helps
[16:14] <devslash> I can't wait for a complete and stable version of ubuntu touch
[16:14] <ogra_> and makes the writing more worthy for the writers ;)
[16:15] <Kurlon> What I was hoping to find was a prebuilt userland that I could just slap my known working android kernel into.
[16:16] <ogra_> Kurlon, it kind of is, but you need to re-roll your android from source
[16:16] <devslash> I can't wait to put u touch on my transformer
[16:20] <rsalveti> ali1234: got it, will take a look
[16:23] <Tigrouzen> TToivanen, i forget add extractfille ^^
[16:24] <TToivanen> Tigrouzen, Huh?
[16:25] <Tigrouzen> shit same
[16:25] <Tigrouzen> oops ^^ forget push new rom
[16:25] <Tigrouzen> stupid
[16:26] <Kurlon> So, gotta recreate my andriod build chroot, and I suppose collect up some basic Nook documentation first.
[16:26] <TToivanen> Tigrouzen, About the init.rc thing: Should I just take the ubuntu/chroot related entries from the good one and paste them to the original that get's compiled?
[16:26] <Tigrouzen> The original its on system/core/rootdir
[16:27] <TToivanen> Yes but for me it doesn't get compiled
[16:27] <TToivanen> I would add the things from it to the one that gets  compiled
[16:28] <ali1234> hmm nano has special handling for enter key
[16:31] <kenvandine> jholtom|away, hey, have you figured out the wifi problem on the tf101?
[16:32] <ali1234> rsalveti: hah! verbatim input mode works in nano
[16:32] <ali1234> press alt-shift-v enter and it works
[16:42] <francesco_> hi
[16:43] <francesco_> where i can find a change log of ubuntu touch?
[16:43] <Tigrouzen> ^^
[16:43] <Tigrouzen> next week
[16:44] <ali1234> input = get_kbinput(bottomwin, meta_key, func_key); hmmmmmmmmm
[16:44] <francesco_> thks
[16:47] <TToivanen> OK everybody. Uto has booted the first port on the HTC One X a.k.a endeavoru!
[16:48] <TToivanen> Screen and all fine!
[16:48] <Tigrouzen> TToivanen, congrat
[16:50] <TToivanen> :D
[16:50] <TToivanen> I want to boot too LOL
[16:50] <Tigrouzen> what about init.rc ?
[16:50] <TToivanen> I guess it finally fixed it. Don't know yet
[16:51] <TToivanen> Uto didn't tell much
[16:51] <Tigrouzen> make video ?
[16:52] <TToivanen> I will do all that stuff when I manage to boot myself
[16:54] <ortrigger> I just popped in. Has anybody tried the init.rc fix for wifi?
[16:54] <jholtom> not yet.
[16:56] <ali1234> nano exclusively uses curses wgetch
[16:56] <ali1234> and that does process the input
[16:56] <ali1234> hmmmmmmm
[16:56] <ortrigger> Okay. I just got it to boot on the LGE VS920 yesterday and wanted to see if the fix worked for anything similar.
[16:57] <rsalveti> ali1234: awesome!
[16:58] <ali1234> i will get to the bottom of this enter thing. i am 100% certain it can be fixed without breaking anything, at this point.
[17:01] <ortrigger> @ali1234: If I was more experienced, I would offer to help. As it is, porting Ubuntu Touch to the LG Spectrum is my first 'real' development endeavor.
[17:05] <ali1234> well i didn't expect this. ncurses only ever receive 0x0a with getch
[17:06] <ali1234> so i don't understand how nano fails with identical input
[17:08] <ali1234> ah-ha
[17:08] <Hashcode> rsalveti: thank you for the cherry-picks :)
[17:09] <rsalveti> Hashcode: np :-)
[17:12] <ortrigger> Quick question, for the init.rc wifi fix, the does the lsmod command have to be run through an adb shell? Or do I just not have that particular bin in my busybox installation?
[17:18] <ali1234> hmmm.... installing build-essential on phone
[17:19] <Hashcode> Does anyone else need this fix in bionic? https://github.com/STS-Dev-Team/android_bionic/commit/48b91005475a9e9ed60b3110b217ee4efb6b36a5
[17:19] <matge> Hi, is anyone working in unity/phablet on makeing the launcher show the actually installed apps instead of an fixed list? I compiled unity on the device, and would like to help out
[17:22] <ortrigger> Hashcode: I had to make that fix for the LG Spectrum.
[17:22] <ogra_> matge, yes
[17:23] <Hashcode> I'm researching why we need it now tho
[17:23] <Hashcode> We get a compile error when krait optimizations are left on
[17:23] <matge> ogra_, someone is working on this?
[17:23] <ogra_> matge, yes, the shell isnt finished yet, its in full flux and such issues are indeed being fixed
[17:24] <tilapia> hello
[17:24] <matge> then I'll just focus on coding something else until it gets merged
[17:24] <tilapia> my nexus 7 is a tilapia says the flash command
[17:25] <tilapia> and stops. and now $
[17:26] <ogra_> tilapia, you can force it with -d grouper IIRC
[17:26] <ogra_> essentially grouper and tilapia differ only in the 3G support
[17:27] <tilapia> argh"""
[17:27] <tilapia> i only ordered the nexus for ubuntu
[17:27] <Hashcode> ortrigger: ah they fixed it in CM on 2/20
[17:27] <Hashcode> https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_bionic/commit/20cec6de3a92fd1891eab19c94b6fe49ebe0b0e3
[17:27] <tilapia> why cant that be included
[17:28] <ogra_> tilapia, just use -d grouper and you will be fine
[17:28] <ogra_> 3G data doesnt work anyway yet
[17:28] <tilapia> what is a -d grouper?
[17:28] <tilapia> can you type what I shoudl type?
[17:28] <ogra_> phablet-flash -d grouper
[17:29] <Hashcode> rsalveti: Can I send you another email with a CM cherry-pick for bionic to fix that e_pow.S error?
[17:29] <ortrigger> Nice. Thanks for pointing that out, Hashcode.
[17:29] <ogra_> instead of just phablet-flash
[17:29] <tilapia> zhx
[17:29] <rsalveti> Hashcode: sure
[17:29] <rsalveti> anytime
[17:29] <Hashcode> I know we'll eventually have a gerrit :P
[17:29] <Hashcode> And I know you're a busy guy
[17:30] <ortrigger> rsalveti: what is the plan for integrating ports into the official repo? I'm just curious.
[17:30] <rsalveti> ortrigger: need to coordinate with the port owners to send the patches or point the trees we need to import
[17:31] <rsalveti> I'd like to host them at phablet.ubuntu.com, as once we have our gerrit instance up and running, people will be easily able to create merge proposals
[17:31] <rsalveti> guess that at the time we get a port which is a bit stable already, we can start merging them at phablet.u.c
[17:32] <ogra_> if there only wouldnt be binary blobs ... we could even roll regular images for ports
[17:32] <gianguido> haichan, finally got my nexus 4 :D
[17:32] <gianguido> there are daily ubuntu rootfs builds?
[17:32] <tilapia> can you add this option to the homepage fpor the flash script: phablet-flash -d grouper
[17:32] <ogra_> and android HW layer too
[17:33] <rsalveti> yeah
[17:33] <gianguido> any link please? :)
[17:33] <ali1234> ogra_: how does cyanogenmod get away with it? i mean they have that extract_files.sh, but the binaries are in all the images they distribute. whats the point?
[17:33] <ortrigger> Okay. When I have things worked out a bit more with the LG Spectrum, I'll look into it more. Right now, it boots and you can navigate the UI but screen doesn't turn off, wifi, camera, don't work and sound/video is untested.
[17:33] <tilapia> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install?action=show&redirect=TouchInstallProcess
[17:34] <ogra_> ali1234, do they actually distribute them themselves ? i thought they rely on the forume people for that
[17:34] <ali1234> ogra_: they have a galaxysmtd image to download, sure. it's the number one most popular phone for CM
[17:34] <ali1234> and it contains the bins i assume, or else how would it work?
[17:35] <ali1234> ogra_: eg http://download.cyanogenmod.org/?type=nightly&device=galaxysmtd
[17:36] <ogra_> ali1234, well, i guess you cant easily sue them since there is no company behind it
[17:36] <ali1234> yeah, there's that
[17:37] <ali1234> though doesn't mr cyanogen work for motorola now?
[17:37] <ortrigger> cyanogen works for samsung.
[17:38] <ortrigger> And it is legal to use the proprietary blobs in a rom. You just can't decompile them and redistribute the code.
[17:38] <tilapia> now pushing into the device, how long does that take?
[17:38] <ortrigger> It will take a few minutes tilapia.
[17:38] <tilapia> zhx
[17:39] <tilapia> and then I can power it?
[17:40] <ali1234> ortrigger: "legal" is a point of view
[17:47] <tilapia> adbd cannot run as root in production builds Pushing /tmp/tmpvwA5fa to /cache/recovery/command failed to copy '/tmp/tmpvwA5fa' to '/cache/recovery/command': Permission denied Error while excetuting adb push /tmp/tmpvwA5fa /cache/recovery/command Make sure the device is connected and viewable by running 'adb devices' Ensure you have a root device, one which running 'adb root' does not return an error
[17:47] <Hashcode> Heads up for anyone porting a device using TI's WLAN12xx chips.  Need to insmod the wl12xx_sdio.ko after the rest.  Ubuntu can't tell the wifi lib to load it like stock android does.
[17:47] <tilapia> what does that mean?>=
[17:48] <Hashcode> (IE: whatever it takes to have the rfkill sysfs entries ready for ubuntu)
[17:48] <ogra_> tilapia, did you unlock your bootloader already ?
[17:48] <tilapia> yes
[17:48] <tilapia> otherwise I would not be able to start all this
[17:48] <tilapia> how do i unlock ?
[17:49] <gianguido> fastboot oem unlock
[17:50] <tilapia> i did: sudo fastboot oem unlock    -  now waiting for device
[17:50] <tilapia> but cable is connected
[17:51] <gianguido> tilapia, launch that command with the device in fastboot mode...
[17:52] <tilapia> fastboot mode is a check box in android?
[17:52] <gianguido> no
[17:52] <gianguido> how do you call it.. bootloader mode? lol
[17:52] <gianguido> device?
[17:57] <tilapia> Friends, device is black npw and nothing starts !!!!!
[17:58] <tilapia> any idea?
[18:02] <tilapia> shit, device dead
[18:02] <tilapia> black screen, no reaction
[18:02] <tilapia> need to return it
[18:03] <tilapia> please get in touch with dell to allow devices sold at amazon soon
[18:03] <gianguido> great ubuntu
[18:03] <gianguido> great community, great OS
[18:04] <gianguido> running really smooth compared to the n7 MWC build
[18:09] <ogra_> tilapia, did you fully charge it before firing it up for the first time ?
[18:09] <tilapia> yes
[18:09] <tilapia> should be so
[18:09] <tilapia> can i charge it offline ?
[18:09] <tilapia> i can try again
[18:09] <tilapia> ok
[18:10] <ogra_> the nexus7 behaves really bad if the battery is low
[18:11] <tilapia> okay it is back
[18:11] <tilapia> lol
[18:11] <ogra_> so make sure its full ... then make sure you unocked your bootloader (to get into fastboot mode you hold the volume key while booting)
[18:11] <ogra_> *unlocked
[18:11] <tilapia> charging 96 %
[18:14] <tilapia> tablet@ubuntu:~$ sudo fastboot oem unlock [sudo] password for tablet:  ... (bootloader) Bootloader is already unlocked OKAY [  0.020s] finished. total time: 0.020s tablet@ubuntu:~$
[18:14] <ogra_> great
[18:16] <mrdigerati> Hey is it possible to work with I9100G?
[18:16] <mrdigerati> SGS2 GT I9100G
[18:16] <ogra_> i dont think anyone has ported to it yet
[18:16] <ogra_> check the devices wikipage
[18:16] <tilapia> The file is already fully retrieved; nothing to do.
[18:17] <mrdigerati> How does it work? Can I port it?
[18:17] <tilapia> pushing...
[18:17] <ogra_> mrdigerati, see the channel topic, it links to the porting doc
[18:17] <mrdigerati> Oak! Checking already ogra_
[18:17] <ogra_> :)
[18:20] <tilapia> i am pushing into the android rinning or into the noot page ?
[18:20] <tilapia> the script says to press the start button
[18:20] <Sashmo_> is there a way to have apt-get installed on ubuntu touch?
[18:20] <tilapia> and then flash
[18:20] <Sashmo_> or is there another replacement for it?
[18:21] <ogra_> Sashmo_, you can use apt on the system, its preinstalled
[18:21] <Sashmo_> ogra_: Im connected to it now via adb, I tired apt and apt-get, but its not found
[18:21] <ogra_> tilapia, enable USB debugging in the running android now and just run the script
[18:22] <ogra_> Sashmo_, its in the ubuntu container, see the release notes (linked from the channel topic)
[18:22] <Sashmo_> ogra_: thanks, will do
[18:23] <ogra_> i would recommend to install openssh-server rigth after youre in, then you dont need adb anymore and just can ssh into the ubuntu side
[18:26] <tilapia> Pushing /home/tablet/Downloads/phablet-flash/95/quantal-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip.md5sum to /sdcard/ 1 KB/s (73 bytes in 0.059s) adbd cannot run as root in production builds Pushing /tmp/tmpQH_drg to /cache/recovery/command error: device not found Error while excetuting adb push /tmp/tmpQH_drg /cache/recovery/command Make sure the device is connected and viewable by running 'adb devices' Ensure you have a root device, one
[18:27] <tilapia> i dont know how to indstal openssh server
[18:27] <ogra_> did you actually enable USB debugging yet in android ?
[18:27] <tilapia> yes
[18:27] <ogra_> the ssh server wasnt for you :)
[18:28] <tilapia> k
[18:28] <steiner> Just read the article about the Ubuntu Touch demo
[18:28] <ogra_> tilapia, so does "adb devices"  list your device
[18:28] <steiner> Anyone have an ETA on a functional image?
[18:28] <steiner> Just curious
[18:29] <tilapia> yes
[18:29] <tilapia> tablet@ubuntu:~$ adb devices List of devices attached  015d41d46b500212	device
[18:29] <ogra_> steiner, "functional" should be between april and october, actual release with all bells and whistles will be 14.04
[18:29] <ogra_> (april 2014)
[18:30] <steiner> Oh, nice.
[18:30] <steiner> Any idea if Wine will run on it?
[18:30] <steiner> For small applications, obviously
[18:30] <ogra_> wine runs on ubuntu arm already
[18:30] <ogra_> but you need arm binaries for wince or some such for it
[18:30] <steiner> Ah
[18:31]  * ogra_ has seen notepad running on arm under wine
[18:31] <steiner> Well, I was looking forward to Ubuntu on tablet for the sake of productivity
[18:31] <ogra_> but i dont think there is much else
[18:31] <steiner> Using Android on the side for other nonsense
[18:31] <steiner> Although apparently Ubuntu apps are looking good too
[18:34] <steiner> Oh, another quick question. Will Ubuntu Touch have any effect on the tablet's battery life, like shortening it or helping it run a bit longer?
[18:35] <zdun> Hello everyone
[18:36] <zdun> I'd like to try ubuntu touch, is it possible to run it in parallel with android using some kind of bootloader. I used to have two Android systems on my phone where I could choose one of them. Is sth like this possible?
[18:37] <Tigrouzen> need #ubuntu-question ^^
[18:37] <ogra_> heh
[18:37] <ogra_> zdun, i think on the xda developers forum there are a few ports that can use dual boot
[18:38] <ogra_> steiner, its a developer preview currently ... make a guess :)
[18:39] <zdun> cool I might give it a try
[18:40] <tilapia> i dont have a sd card added
[18:40] <tilapia> is this needed ?
[18:40] <ogra_> no
[18:40] <Hashcode> zdun: what device
[18:41] <zdun> note I
[18:41] <Hashcode> Hm.. what dual boot system were you using?
[18:41] <steiner> Ah, good point ogra_
[18:42] <Hashcode> zdun: biggest issue is that the dual boot system must support a newer updated kernel with some ubuntu-touch changes
[18:43] <TToivanen> OK ppl. We finally got our build to boot! Once the USB cable is unplugged, the screen goes black. Is this normal?
[18:43] <Tigrouzen> hihihi
[18:43] <TToivanen> that's a yes isn't it?
[18:43] <TToivanen> LOL
[18:44] <Tigrouzen> TToivanen, i think yes its normal like Ubuntu goes for now
[18:44] <TToivanen> OK, thanks. You're included in our credits BTW
[18:45] <Tigrouzen> TToivanen, I expected it to work even
[18:46] <zdun> Hashcode: so with the dual boot I will have to use an old version of Ubuntu touch
[18:46] <Hashcode> er
[18:47] <Hashcode> no I don't think you can use ubuntu touch at all w/o the kernel changes
[18:52] <zdun> thanks for the info. Anyway I will definitely give it a try soon
[18:55] <stayupthetree> dank101
[19:03] <Tigrouzen> look at this joke https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7TsXGad4O4
[19:05] <TToivanen> AHAHA, amateurs
[19:10] <Infinity553> hi
[19:10] <Hashcode> Does Tony Espy's kernel patch affect normal Android?  I'd like to keep my kernel in-sync for dual usage.
[19:14] <ogra_> Hashcode, heh, that might become hard over time
[19:15] <Hashcode> Yeah I may add a CONFIG_UBUNTU_TOUCH
[19:15] <Hashcode> and #ifdef everything
[19:15] <Hashcode> I keep a 2nd defconfig atm
[19:29] <Hashcode> rsalveti: sent you a 2nd email regarding a missing patch in frameworks/av
[19:29] <Hashcode> https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_frameworks_av/commit/6a2d77757d46081868558749c0f963c2de7fbf55
[19:29] <Hashcode> This fixes JB MR0 audio blob crashing
[19:30] <Hashcode> it's from 1/14 where the forked code stops at 1/10 I think.
[19:40] <ali1234> oooookay getting somewhere
[19:40] <ali1234> parse_kbinput(): kbinput = 10 via adb
[19:40] <ali1234> parse_kbinput(): kbinput = 13 via ssh
[19:40] <Stskeeps> ..CRLF?
[19:41] <ali1234> yes
[19:41] <ali1234> adb is messing up the terminal and curses apps don't work properly
[19:41] <ali1234> trying to find out why
[19:42] <Stskeeps> and i presume you checked term variable :)
[19:42] <ali1234> yes a million times :)
[19:42] <ali1234> it's same everywhere
[19:42] <ali1234> so unless you have any suggestions what i should change it to...
[19:42] <ali1234> this is certainly something to do with terminals and ttys and escape codes
[19:43] <ali1234> but until i've traced through the whole stack... i just don't know
[19:46] <ali1234> but what i don;t understand...10 = 0x0a = LF = ^J
[19:47] <ali1234> when i use ncurses getch directly my program always receives 10
[19:47] <ali1234> on ssh or adb
[19:47] <ali1234> but for some reason nano knows to magically turn it into 13 when on ssh
[19:47] <ali1234> i need debugging deeper in nano stack i guess
[19:50] <ali1234> this is why i love open source. you don;t need any obscure knowledge. just follow the code and eventually you will get an answer.
[19:50] <Stskeeps> any interesting output from stty?
[19:50] <ali1234> yes actually
[19:50] <ali1234> in android system EOL = <undefined>
[19:51] <ali1234> this is probably related
[19:51] <ali1234> i tried setting it but no change
[19:51] <ali1234> i've tried stty -c and setting same values everywhere too, and no difference
[20:00] <ali1234> so... nano receives different character from wgetch depending on ssh or adb... so it's something in the curses setup
[20:00] <ali1234> but i can't reproduce this in my minimal curses test
[20:01] <ali1234> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5577270/
[20:01] <ali1234> this always gets ^J on adb or ssh
[20:02] <ali1234> so clearly i need a more complex curses test... maybe one that uses wgetch would be a start
[20:04] <Kurlon> Going through the porting guide, setting up a dev env and running into a ton of missing/not-found packages.
[20:05] <Kurlon> http://pastie.org/6362067
[20:06] <rsalveti> Hashcode: awesome, thanks, will take a look later today
[20:06] <rsalveti> lots of meetings today
[20:06] <Hashcode> No worries
[20:06] <ali1234> wgetch isn't the answer :(
[20:08] <frankencode> ali1234: you have checked your TERM environment variable? (stupid, I know!)
[20:09] <Hashcode> ^^ I was just thinking this
[20:09] <Hashcode> termcap or something
[20:09] <Kurlon> Specifically it's the i386 ver of dev packages that won't pull down, should I have the i386 repositories in my apt-sources too?
[20:11] <ali1234> frankencode: yes, a million times :)
[20:12] <ali1234> ah-ha number 2
[20:12] <ali1234> nano doesn't use ncurses, it uses slang
[20:12] <ali1234> so a functional test for ncurses is worth...nothing
[20:12] <dhacker29> Hello
[20:13] <ali1234> hmm or does it...
[20:13] <ogra_> Kurlon, what exactly do i see in that paste ? an ubuntu 32bit chroot on a debian box ?
[20:14] <Kurlon> 64bit Ubuntu chroot on a 64bit Ubuntu quantal system.  The porting guide specifically says to install the i386 ver of those packages for some reason.
[20:14] <Kurlon> Which is failing when I try.
[20:15] <ogra_> Kurlon, heh, use multiarch, not a chroot
[20:15] <ogra_> dpkg --print-foreign-architectures
[20:16] <ogra_> run that (not in the chroot)
[20:16] <ogra_> if that doesnt return i386 ....
[20:16] <ogra_> dpkg --add-architecture i386
[20:17] <Kurlon> i386 is the output
[20:17] <ogra_> then something like: sudo apt-get installl libfoo0:i386 will start working on your system
[20:17] <ogra_> ok
[20:17] <ogra_> so you can already make use of multiarch
[20:17] <ali1234> ah here we go... nano calls curses nonl()
[20:18] <ogra_> so just adding the :i386 suffix to the package names will get you the 32bit versions
[20:18] <ali1234> and of course that makes all the difference
[20:19] <Kurlon> So, why are the 32bit ver of those libs needed for the build?
[20:19] <ali1234> hmm so that brings me all the way back to client side adb
[20:20] <ali1234> because if it can't tell the difference between ^J and ^M then there's no way anything on the phone can
[20:20] <ogra_> Kurlon, thats a question rsalveti might be able to answer but i think he's just rebooting
[20:20] <ali1234> so... adb needs to do what nonl() does to get real raw CRLF, and then it will be fixed
[20:22] <Kurlon> ogra_: Cool.  I can install the requested 32bit packages in my host os, not the chroot though, even though in the chroot it reports the correct foreign arches.
[20:22] <ogra_> yeah, but chroots for foreign arches is last century :)
[20:22] <grouper> http://www.wugfresh.com/nrt/
[20:23] <ogra_> in ubuntu you can even set up your PC to be able to run armhf binaries
[20:23] <ali1234> Kurlon: i suspect it is because build system uses prebuilt stuff which is 32 bit?
[20:24] <ogra_> oh, that might be, yeah
[20:24] <Kurlon> That'd make sense I suppose.
[20:24] <ali1234> i don;t seem to be able to install 32 and 64 libncurses5-dev at the same time though
[20:25] <Kurlon> The porting guide only requests the 32bit ver.
[20:28] <Kurlon> and... now it's letting me install.  I had to do an apt-get update first.
[20:33] <Kurlon> Now to wait for the sync
[20:34] <ali1234> yeah... fixed!
[20:34] <Stskeeps> what was it?
[20:35] <ali1234> Stskeeps: adb unsets ICANON on terminal to get raw input... actually it sals l_flag to 0
[20:35] <ali1234> *sets
[20:35] <Stskeeps> ah
[20:35] <ali1234> but, they forgot that newline translation is controlled from i_flag
[20:35] <ali1234> so they weren't really getting raw, uncooked inpu
[20:35] <ali1234> terminal was converting all CR to LF
[20:35] <ali1234> so the fix is just set the right bits with termios
[20:36] <ali1234> to disable that
[20:36] <ali1234> now, how do i send my patch back to google?
[20:37] <ali1234> i guess i'll start by attaching i to the bug report :)
[20:47] <kwyjibo> hi all
[20:49] <kwyjibo> someone with a n7: is ubuntu touch stable?
[20:49] <ali1234> no
[20:50] <kwyjibo> :|
[20:50] <ali1234> not in either sense of the word
[20:50] <steiner> Not yet
[20:50] <dun1982> Wow, I just got my device/kernel combination to compile.
[20:50] <dun1982> Let's see if I got flashable image ready...
[20:50] <steiner> I think another user here said between October and Feb of next year
[20:50] <kwyjibo> ouch
[20:50] <steiner> Or am I mistaken?
[20:51] <ali1234> well t's certainly not going to magically turn into a fully finished OS any time in the next couple of months
[20:51] <trapntan> I'm wondering if I missed something in the port guide? what is the section 'Building the Ubuntu packages' referring to?
[20:51] <ali1234> trapntan: building the software inside /data/ubuntu
[20:51] <ali1234> which you don't need to do
[20:52] <trapntan> It says you'll need one of those images plus what you build below, is that in order to boot it?
[20:52] <trapntan> ah
[20:53] <trapntan> I boot straight to off with my build for toro, trying to figure it out
[20:53] <trapntan> like this: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/30768617/boot_output
[20:59] <giveen> Round 45999 today, did a bunch of kernel changes which seems to make it happier. And now applying the tf300t libc patch and going to see if that brings up my display like it did for him
[21:08] <Sashmo_> I sound like a retard, by why does ifconfig return "Warning: cannot open /proc/net/dev (No such file or directory). Limited output. "
[21:08] <dun1982> grap, no luck with p6800 yet.
[21:08] <ali1234> Sashmo_: you didn't mount /proc inside chroot
[21:08] <ali1234> Sashmo_: mount -t proc none /proc
[21:16] <Sashmo_> ali1234: thanks, that did it, but here comes the newb in me...... why am I mounting it?  I'll read, just shoot me a link....
[21:18] <dun1982> yes! Seems promising, now it did not crash during make on wifi-problems...
[21:19] <dun1982> wow, working with ubuntu, 4gb ddr3, 4 threads and ssd makes the compiling a breeze compared to windows platforms :)
[21:19] <dun1982> even if I'm using a very old laptop.
[21:25] <dun1982> ok, anyone around who can give hint on what went wrong on building the gt-p6800 image? I got make error which states: make: *** [TARGET_KERNEL_BINARIES] Error 2
[21:26] <ogra_> dun1982, get 4G more and use a ramdisk ... no SSD beats that
[21:26]  * usererror is away: breaking all the things
[21:26] <dun1982> ogra_: true, I could go 16gb as well. I think my board can take it. But still, the ssd is not the bottleneck here :)
[21:26] <ogra_> heh
[21:27] <dun1982> My cpu was 100% utilizided during the build.
[21:27] <frankencode> ogra_: linux uses anyway all the free memory for file system cache
[21:27] <ogra_> frankencode, yeah, but if you have to build something that does a lot disk accesses, a ramdisk will massively speed you up
[21:27] <dun1982> For some reason i5 M480 (2.67Ghzx2 + hyperthreading) was not enough...
[21:28] <ali1234> Sashmo_: /proc is a filesystem that contains information about running processes and network settings. you are mounting it because it isn't already mounted...
[21:28] <Sashmo_> ali1234: can I add that to my etc/rc.local to auto mount?
[21:28] <dun1982> but anyway, is there a place where I can get more info where my build died?
[21:28] <dun1982> any logs available on building?
[21:29] <ali1234> Sashmo_: maybe
[21:29] <frankencode> ogra_: nope, because the ramdisk is empty when you switch on your machine, same as the file system cache
[21:29] <ogra_> frankencode, i'm not talking about caches but about read and write operations
[21:30] <frankencode> yeah don't mind
[21:30] <ogra_> an fs cache gets flushed regulary ... so you have IO bottlenecks if yu have an actual disk/SSD
[21:30] <dun1982> guys, performance vise: 12gb ramdisk + ssd in laptop.
[21:31] <Tigrouzen> dun1982, strange
[21:31] <dun1982> poweron/off and you can flush the ramdisk as you wish. And because laptop, you have always enough energy to write the ramdisk to ssd
[21:32] <ali1234> https://android-review.googlesource.com/52640 \o/
[21:32] <frankencode> ogra_: yes dirty pages are flushed, but linux retains them in memory as long as enough free memory is available
[21:32] <dun1982> But anyway, where can I read the build logs?
[21:32] <ogra_> i know
[21:33] <ogra_> ali1234, wow, that was fast
[21:34] <Hashcode> What's a good way to test audio in the preview if calls aren't working
[21:35] <ali1234> ogra_: what, me figuring out how to push to gerrit? ;)
[21:35] <ali1234> the docs are actually quite good...
[21:35] <ogra_> it says "in review"
[21:35] <ali1234> oh, gerrit auto sanity checks it
[21:35] <ogra_> is that auto-set ?
[21:35] <ali1234> i think that's what that is
[21:35] <ogra_> ah
[21:35] <ogra_> i thought someone looks at it that quickly :)
[21:37] <frankencode> ogra_: yes i see, nasty configures run better on ramdisk, btw. you know dstat?
[21:37] <frankencode> oh mei, i start to sound like a lisa bot...
[21:37] <Sashmo_> any ideas how i can get a terminal window on my device??
[21:39] <ogra_> frankencode, oh, wow, no, i use to use iostat and friends usually, thanks ! thats a very helpful tool
[21:40] <ogra_> Sashmo_, either remotely ... or you could write a terminal app :)
[21:40] <Sashmo_> hehe, ok thanks ogra_
[21:41] <Sashmo_> just thought there was one oout there already
[21:41] <Sashmo_> trying to experiment with the device as a pen test tool for a newb
[21:41] <ogra_> nope, one of the things still in the todo list
[21:41] <Sashmo_> I'm dieing to try this on my quad core note2
[21:42] <matge_> Is anyone running daily no 8 (current) on Nexus 4 and wifi is still working? Mine doesn't connect anymore. /var/log/syslog shows nothing interesting. Seems that NetworkManager does not scan/try to connect. iwlist wlan0 scan does show the networks though.
[21:42] <Sashmo_> is there a way to make a full backup of my exact setup on my note2, so that I can play with touch?  then later put it back to the way it was?
[21:45] <matge_> When doing iwconfig wlan0 essid SomeSSID I get "wlan: connection failed with 00:00:00:00:00:00 reason:1 and Status:9" in dmesg
[21:48] <Hashcode> ogra_ any idea how to test audio in the preview?
[21:49] <ogra_> Hashcode, not really, i think there should be a pulseaudio daemon running in the chroot, so paplay shoudl work
[21:49] <Hashcode> now to find some audio files :p
[21:51] <Hashcode> hmm
[21:51] <Hashcode> pa_context_connect() failed: Connection refused
[21:51] <Hashcode> ah
[21:51] <Hashcode> No PulseAudio daemon running, or not running as session daemon.
[21:53] <Hashcode> Hmm
[21:53] <Hashcode> root@localhost:/system/media/audio/ringtones# pulseaudio --check
[21:53] <Hashcode> W: [pulseaudio] main.c: Couldn't read /proc/self/exe, cannot self execute. Running in a chroot()?
[21:53] <RobbyF> hair
[21:53] <RobbyF> hai*
[21:53] <RobbyF> whats new today
[21:53] <RobbyF> just installing today's image.
[21:55] <Hashcode> I don't think I have the right permissions on /proc
[21:55] <rsalveti> Hashcode: remember to use that via ssh
[21:55] <rsalveti> not via adb, as that will have the wrong pid namespace
[21:55] <Hashcode> Im in the chroot
[21:55] <Hashcode> oh
[21:55] <Hashcode> k
[21:55] <ogra_> yeah, old habits :)
[21:55] <Hashcode> I gotta setup ssh
[21:55] <rsalveti> yeah, there's a fix planned for the adb -> shell to work
[21:55] <rsalveti> but that requires some 3.8 based kernel patches
[21:55] <ogra_> pfft, we should just drop adb
[21:55] <ogra_> :)
[21:56] <rsalveti> ogra_: :-)
[21:56] <ogra_> ssh is enough for everyone
[21:56] <dhacker29> so the GSM Motorola Razr has working phone calls SMS audio still no video decoding via ducati yet
[21:57] <Hashcode> ducati is my problem tho :P
[21:57] <dhacker29> yeah :P
[21:59] <Tigrouzen> dhacker29, http://phablet.ubuntu.com/gitweb?p=CyanogenMod/android_frameworks_av.git;a=commit;h=305293c57f858ee5eba7593af9178f106971ad05
[21:59] <PaulyboyUK> hola peeps
[21:59] <Tigrouzen> ^^
[21:59] <lilstevie> ogra_, ssh may be enough for everyone, but it doesn't help when some of us do not have working wifi in our images
[22:03] <Hashcode> Well that works
[22:03] <Hashcode> paplay /system/media/audio/ringtones/Zeta.ogg
[22:03] <Hashcode> Easy test of audio
[22:06] <dun1982> oh god, the vertex 2 line of ssd's are slow when copying small files that do not compress...
[22:07] <dun1982> 3.0 MB/s transfer speed...
[22:15] <ogra_> lilstevie, i wasnt serious
[22:16] <lilstevie> ogra_, lol, I would be, adb is a horrible tool
[22:16] <lilstevie> :p
[22:17] <ogra_> heh, but i know its needed
[22:17] <Hashcode> So if we migrate to swap creation during the 1st boot.. can we add a check for total ram?
[22:17] <Hashcode> IE: 512MB devices should have 300mb+ swap imho
[22:17] <Hashcode> Just so the device is usable
[22:17] <Hashcode> w/o that it basically freezes after 2-3 apps are opened.
[22:17] <ali1234> rsalveti: https://android-review.googlesource.com/52640 enter key fixed :)
[22:17] <ogra_> i'm not sure we want wap at all in the end
[22:18] <rsalveti> ali1234: great!
[22:18] <Hashcode> Well on the 1GB devices I'm testing, it's not being used.
[22:19] <rsalveti> ali1234: will test and make sure that's included at our repos
[22:20] <ogra_> Hashcode, yeah, must be the huge amount of phone apps running on them that leave it free :P
[22:20] <ogra_> *leaves
[22:20] <ogra_> it will be eaten very quickly once you have actually some apps running
[22:20] <Hashcode> yeah
[22:21] <Hashcode> I normally see about 80mb usage
[22:21] <Hashcode> if I open up every app in the preview
[22:21] <Hashcode> or most of them
[22:21] <ogra_> all three you mean :)
[22:21] <Hashcode> > 900mb total
[22:21] <Hashcode> like the camera, dialer, notepad, gallery, and a website
[22:21] <ogra_> ok. five, i take that back :)
[22:21] <Hashcode> Not exactly a good test I know :P
[22:22] <Hashcode> but there's quite a bit of "inactive" memory on my device
[22:22] <Hashcode> or cached
[22:22] <ogra_> yup
[22:22] <Hashcode> Is there 3G support or wifi data only
[22:22] <Hashcode> ?
[22:23] <ogra_> currently wifi only
[22:23] <Hashcode> K, just making sure
[22:23] <Hashcode> I don't have a GSM phone so dhacker29 is getting to have all the phone fun
[22:25] <dhacker29> :D I can't seem to initiate a new sms to an unknown contact but can reply
[22:29] <matge_> Anyone has working wifi on lastest build (8) on nexus 4?
[22:33] <dun1982> Is there anyone else interested on gt-p6800 build?
[22:37] <dhacker29> Just an observation I assume the size of the call answer box is in the Phone applicaiton? https://dl.dropbox.com/u/28823036/call.png
[22:44] <Joda> hi i was trying to flash Ubuntu touc on my nexus 7 and i get to the phablet-flash -b command and i get the following error Not enough space in /data, found 4G... any help would be awesome!
[22:45] <dhacker29> how much free space do you have on your sdcard?
[22:46] <jholtom> WiFi made to work on the TF101! It was a bad driver location and a init.ventana.rc change....
[22:46] <jholtom> anyone else with tegra2 or BCMDHD feel free to ask more.
[22:46] <Joda> 4.9 gigs
[22:47] <ogra_> Joda, well, make space then
[22:47] <Joda> i can't make anymore. theres no sd card slot and i have the 8gb model. witch has 5.9 total space .
[22:48] <Joda> so to clarify the problem is with not having enough space on my device?
[22:49] <Tassadar> 4.8gb should be enough though
[22:49] <Tassadar> *9
[22:49] <Joda> thats what i figured...
[22:53] <MrNerd> hey
[22:53] <MrNerd> can someone help me really fast?
[22:56] <ogra_> !ask | MrNerd
[22:57] <MrNerd> i cant get my ubuntu to add the repo and instal phablet-olstt
[22:57] <MrNerd> i cant get my ubuntu to add the repo and instal phablet-tools
[22:57] <pigeonor_> no toro updates yet?
[22:59] <ogra_> MrNerd, sudo add-apt-repository ppa:phablet-team/tools
[22:59] <MrNerd> did that
[22:59] <MrNerd> still get nothing back says it cant find the tools.
[22:59] <ogra_> and you ran sudo apt-get update ?
[23:00] <ogra_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install#Setup_the_Touch_Developer_Preview_Tools_PPA
[23:00] <MrNerd> yes
[23:00] <MrNerd> ...
[23:00] <MrNerd> im following it..
[23:00] <MrNerd> i can read.
[23:00] <ogra_> which ubuntu elease
[23:00] <ogra_> *release
[23:00] <MrNerd> idk
[23:00] <MrNerd> i just have back track
[23:00] <ogra_> ?
[23:00] <MrNerd> backtrack 5
[23:00] <ogra_> no idea what that is
[23:01] <MrNerd> ..ubuntu
[23:01] <pigeonor_> backtrack?
[23:01] <pigeonor_> people use that?
[23:01] <MrNerd> yes?
[23:01] <ogra_> definitely not ubuntu ... probablu ubuntu based
[23:01] <ogra_> *probably
[23:01] <MrNerd> yes ubuntu.
[23:01] <pigeonor_> why would u use it for anything but netpen testing?
[23:01] <MrNerd> its still ubuntu reguardless of its purpose.
[23:02] <ogra_> MrNerd, thats like calling mint ubuntu
[23:02] <pigeonor_> ha
[23:02] <ogra_> which mint definitely isnt
[23:02] <Tassadar> last backtrack is based on kinda old ubuntu, maybe that's the reason...
[23:02] <MrNerd> alright
[23:02] <MrNerd> thanks..
[23:02] <pigeonor_> i just want to know the progress of toro
[23:02] <ogra_> (suppressing kernel updates, changing a lot of core system bits etc)
[23:02] <Tassadar> on 10.04 LTS
[23:02] <pigeonor_> the wiki isnt kept up too well
[23:03] <lilstevie> ogra_, in this case backtrack is ubuntu with some tools overlayed
[23:03] <lilstevie> Tassadar, I thought backtrack 5 was 10.10
[23:03] <ogra_> MrNerd, anyway, you need at least ubuntu precise, quantal or raring
[23:03] <MrNerd> it is rls 3
[23:03] <Tassadar> I'm looking at wiki, maybe it is outdated
[23:03] <Tassadar> *wikipedia, that is
[23:03] <ogra_> MrNerd, that wont help
[23:03] <MrNerd> ogra ok
[23:03] <MrNerd> ill figure it out..
[23:04] <ogra_> if thats actually 10.04 based there is no chance you will get it working
[23:04] <MrNerd> ogra, what linux should i use for program development
[23:05] <ogra_> you could pull the source of phablet-tools, look at the steps it does and manually mimic them with adb and fastboot though
[23:05] <lilstevie> Tassadar, at this point it is really irrelevant as they are both ancient
[23:05] <ogra_> MrNerd, for the ubuntu touch edition ? use a plain ubuntu
[23:05] <MrNerd> Ogra ,i mean in general.
[23:05] <ogra_> heh
[23:06] <ogra_> the one you like best :)
[23:06] <ogra_> try some and the one you like best is for you ...
[23:06] <lilstevie> MrNerd, asking in a canonical run channel is likely to get the answer "Ubuntu"
[23:06] <MrNerd> i cant just try some..sadly..
[23:06] <MrNerd> lilstevie what one do you use?
[23:07]  * ogra_ tried to be a bit more diplomatic :)
[23:08] <ogra_> but yeah, probably ubuntu woudl be good :)
[23:08] <lilstevie> MrNerd, I use fedora 18, but that is because it supports my hardware best
[23:08] <ali1234> if you need to ask that question, the answer is ubuntu
[23:08] <ali1234> and that's as someone with no particular affiliations
[23:08] <MrNerd> hmm..
[23:09] <MrNerd> ubuntu.
[23:09] <ali1234> and not lubuntu/xubuntu/kubuntu either
[23:09] <MrNerd> im gonna find an ubuntu dakr edition!
[23:09] <MrNerd> all black err thang niggaaa tyeaaaahhh
[23:10] <ogra_> MrNerd, can you keep such stuff out of this channel please
[23:10] <MrNerd> im not sure what your talking sir?
[23:10] <Joda> hi everyone. i've been trying to figure this out. i'm trying to flash ubuntu touch and get this message when i put in phablet-flash -b. Device detected as grouper Not enough space in /data, found 4G
[23:10] <ogra_> MrNerd, your language above
[23:10] <MrNerd> what do you mean ?
[23:11] <MrNerd> are you being rascist?
[23:11] <Joda> anyone know what i can do to fix it? i have 4.9 gigs of space on my device.
[23:11] <ogra_> throwing swearwords around isnt desired in ubuntu channels
[23:11] <MrNerd> what swearword?
[23:11] <ogra_> you know what i mean
[23:11] <MrNerd> i have no clue
[23:11] <ogra_> dont pretend you dont
[23:12] <MrNerd> i didtn swear once
[23:12] <MrNerd> your being ignorant.
[23:12] <lilstevie> you certainly did
[23:12] <MrNerd> what word is a "swear" word?
[23:13] <MrNerd> so what type of music does everyone listen to?
[23:14] <lilstevie> the humming of cpu fans
[23:15] <MrNerd> oh cool..
[23:15] <MrNerd> fuck it
[23:15] <MrNerd> im not wanted anywhere i se..
[23:15] <MrNerd> see*
[23:15] <lilstevie> language
[23:15] <MrNerd> i dontcare
[23:15] <MrNerd> stfu
[23:15] <MrNerd> stop crying
[23:16] <MrNerd> im a grown ass man..
[23:16] <lilstevie> so as a grown man you are familiar with the concept of rules
[23:16] <lilstevie> and have no excuse
[23:17] <MrNerd> i didnt see any rules stating i cant use words.. that are considered bad to children
[23:17] <MrNerd> lilstevie are you 7?
[23:17] <MrNerd> grow the fuck up.
[23:17] <MrNerd> the world swears
[23:17] <ogra_> !ops
[23:17] <lilstevie> MrNerd, no, I'm a school teacher where swearing is not tolerated at all
[23:17] <MrNerd> yeah its
[23:18] <MrNerd> it is
[23:18] <lilstevie> also it is against the channels rules
[23:18] <MrNerd> idc.
[23:18] <MrNerd> liek i just stated above,
[23:18] <MrNerd> and people swear in school all the time.
[23:18] <lilstevie> then you run the very real chance of being removed from this channel
[23:18] <IdleOne> We are not in school
[23:18] <IdleOne> We are in an Ubuntu IRC channel
[23:18] <MrNerd> ^ thank you
[23:19] <MrNerd> your acting as if i swore at you.
[23:19] <IdleOne> !guidelines
[23:19] <IdleOne> MrNerd: Doesn't matter if you swear at someone directly or just in general, please don't.
[23:20] <MrNerd> what ever..
[23:20] <MrNerd> i can talk how i want its not offensive
[23:20] <MrNerd> grow up..
[23:20] <MrNerd> seriosuly.
[23:20] <ogra_> phew
[23:20] <ogra_> thanks so much
[23:20]  * ogra_ hugs IdleOne 
[23:21] <dun1982> Hm wut?
[23:22] <dun1982> Not sure if my build is progressing, had to turn wifi, bluetooth, camera etc.. off from the kernel...
[23:23] <dun1982> Let's see if I manage to compile my first build now.
[23:36] <aLeSD> hi all
[23:42] <dun1982> hi, oh man, should have started the brunch command with time...
[23:43] <dun1982> what's typical time for brunch-process to finish?
[23:44] <lilstevie> dun1982, for ubuntu for phones? about 15 minutes is the longest it has taken for me
[23:46] <dun1982> Ok, I think my gt-p6800 build has taken so long already...
[23:46] <dun1982> Still going though, hope I can get the first ever build done soon.
[23:49] <dun1982> hm... from top I think it has been running 34 minutes already.
[23:49] <kwyjibo> anyone have experience soldering stuff (ie: on a netbook)? i'm going to try replacing a DC jack in my netbook, but have no idea what tools i need to buy. do i need to bother with flux?
[23:49] <brion> will phablet-flash pick up the daily image updates? or is there a fancier way to update…?
[23:50] <IdleOne> kwyjibo: ##hardware is probably a better channel to ask
[23:50] <dun1982> you mean after you have flashed your build?
[23:50] <dun1982> brion: I mean have you flashed your device already with phablet?
[23:50] <brion> dun1982: yeah
[23:50] <brion> nexus 4, flashed it a few days ago
[23:51] <dun1982> I think you should get the updated through apt-get?
[23:51] <brion> last i heard there was some warning that apt-get would break on the device, that might have been a one-time thing
[23:51] <brion> (something about a dbus upgrade)
[23:52] <dun1982> ok, if you try, be careful :)
[23:52] <dun1982> Of course you can always build and install latest version like you did first time...
[23:52] <matge_> phablet-flash -l flashes the latest
[23:53] <matge_> apt-get upgrade seems not supported yet
[23:53] <dun1982> #¤"12es, I really hate when the kernel stuff breaks. Now I'm missing a file. argh.,
[23:54] <matge_> is there a way to make a screenshot on the ubuntu phone?
[23:55] <ali1234> matge_: yes, use ... ddms?
[23:56] <brion> matge_: thanks
[23:56] <brion> i'll flash latest, then apt-get from there :)
[23:57] <matge_> ali1234_, thanks. It's not included with the phablet-tools, right?
[23:57] <t1mp> matge_: you connect to the phone using adb?
[23:57] <matge_> yes
[23:57] <t1mp> try screencap
[23:57] <t1mp> on android side
[23:57] <matge_> I'll try that in a minute (currently flashing). Thanks for your input!
[23:58] <ali1234> matge_: it's in the android sdk i think. and when i run it it says to use tools/monitor instead
[23:59] <Tigrouzen> ali1234, its a new ddms