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ali1234adb opens the terminal raw, so it doesn't receive signals00:22
ali1234i guess the problem is on phone side where it uses the raw input then00:22
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diploMorning all07:59
jacobwGood morning all and diplo08:27
popeyyo08:28
AlanBellmorning08:28
jacobwAlanBell: I'm looking for vTiger resources08:31
AlanBellyay08:32
* jacobw looks on theopensourcerer.com08:39
bigcalm_Good morning peeps :)09:21
* bigcalm_ looks at his nick. How'd that happen?09:22
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redtape-renegadeMorning , except for sloanies.09:29
* bigcalm grabs keepnick.pl and hopes that will be the end of that09:29
redtape-renegadenice day today at least.09:29
JamesTaitHappy Friday and Happy St David's Day! :-D10:05
NET||abusehi guys, i'm on 12.10 and i'm trying to hook my windows pc audio out to my laptop so i can hear stuff from the windows box too10:07
NET||abuseso i just have the front of box audio jack going into my docking station mic in.10:07
NET||abusei'm hoping to pick up the audio10:07
dwatkinsI tried to do that recently in alsamixer and it worked one week then didn't work the next.10:07
NET||abusebut pulse isn't showing any optin i can see.10:08
NET||abusewhat alsa mixer tool did you use?10:08
NET||abusethe command line one is the only one on my box it seems10:08
dwatkinsyeah, that's the one, 'alsamixer' on the terminal, NET||abuse10:09
NET||abusedon't see hwo to turn anything on10:09
NET||abusei've moved all the volume sliders. no luck10:10
redtape-renegadeJamesTait: Yep .. And my Dad is called David . What should I say to him ??10:11
JamesTaitredtape-renegade, "Hi dad"?10:13
JamesTaitredtape-renegade, there may well be some "formal" greeting that Welsh people say on St David's Day, but I have no idea what it might be.10:15
dwatkinsborre da10:15
NET||abusehmm, i can see level bouncing around on pavolumecontrol for analogue stero in input devices.10:16
NET||abusehow do i loop that back now.10:16
JamesTait"Dydd Gwyl Dewi hapus!"10:17
brobostigongood morning everyone,10:18
JamesTaitbrobostigon, o/10:19
brobostigonJamesTait: o/10:20
NET||abusevery frustrating,10:25
NET||abusei can see the input level for the line in and mic working10:25
NET||abusei just acn't see how to put it through the output/playback channels.10:25
NET||abusedamn pulse10:25
redtape-renegade& In Other News ...10:32
redtape-renegadeRicky gervais is doing a one-off Office special for Comic Relief on the 15th March on BBC1 , this time he is a "music manager"  .. Happy *St David*Brent Day \o/   .10:32
redtape-renegadepage two of Indie 'I' N.paper..10:32
Laneyoh god10:34
Laneythis plant somebody gave me for my birthday about 5 weeks ago is already pretty much done for10:34
Laneyand I just pulled out one of the few surviving leaves while trying to take a dead one off10:34
popeyi found a cactus behind some folders last week10:34
popeyits proper dead10:34
diplo:P10:34
Laneyoh there's two of those in the kitchen that my landlord had for 15 years before i moved in here10:35
Laneythey don't look so good either10:35
popeyi thought I might be able to revive it10:35
popeybut that seems optimistic10:35
popeyoh, and wifey has binned it10:35
popeySorted!10:35
Laneyyeah probably not coming back from that10:35
redtape-renegade67popey . Give the Cactus a hugg from me ;)10:35
redtape-renegadewhops seem to be at 6's and 7's today .. :(10:36
Laneymaybe they'll be ok - perhaps they naturally go a bit yellow in the winter? right guys?10:36
Laneyguys? right?10:36
diploheh, you sound as bad as my ex wife with plants10:36
diplo:)10:36
redtape-renegadeLaney, possibly correct.10:37
Laney;-)10:37
Laneyon a better note, https://twitter.com/TheJohnsonArms/status/302094965058703360/photo/1 ← this is me tonight10:38
dwatkinsboard? ;)10:44
popeyyou got a new job working in a bar?10:45
Laneyinvesting heavily in the pub's future10:46
dwatkinsdo they have a club card?10:51
popeyhttp://popey.com/webcam/ \o/ pussycat10:59
davmor2Morning all11:05
redtape-renegadeLaney : Invest. in a Pub ? Why didn't you buy an old post-office with an office on top ?11:05
* redtape-renegade still believe's he can rule the world by doing an "I loveFilm" but for software DVD's for ppl to subscribe to .. !!11:05
popeyhello davmor211:05
redtape-renegadeI remember when you could send a postcard for 10p with a £1 stuck in between the photo and writing paper sheets .. back when I was in "Colditz"...11:07
NET||abusepopey: check that cats' pulse, he's not moving.11:08
redtape-renegade.. smoke me a kipper, I'll be back after work..11:08
redtape-renegadebye for now.11:09
NET||abuseoh my god, i refreshed and he vanished.11:09
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NET||abuse:P funny how my brain was trained to look for a movement given the url says "webcam"11:09
davmor2popey: that's sounds ominous, like you were lying in wait for me or something :)11:09
popeyhehe NET||abuse11:10
popeyi do have a live stream but it can only cope with 1 or 2 users at once11:10
popeyI want to proxy it on my server11:10
NET||abuse:) use uStream and embed11:11
popeybut haven't quite managed to get that working11:11
popeyanother day11:11
NET||abuse:)11:12
davmor2popey: so the rolling release is quite a popular topic I don't remmeber seeing so much mail on u-devel mailing list :)11:13
bigcalmdavmor2: not that I've ever seen the list, but wouldn't the location change for window buttons have caused just as much hoo-har11:15
davmor2bigcalm: not like this, that was more the standard ubuntu channels this is the developer channel11:16
bigcalmFair enough11:17
bigcalmdavmor2: despite moving to work in an office, looks like I might still be able to do the workplace days.11:17
davmor2woohoo!11:18
popeyhttp://havethebuttonsmovedbackyet.com/11:19
bigcalmpopey: one of yours?11:19
popey11:19
bigcalmHaha11:19
LaneyI click the wrong side whenever I use shell now11:20
popeyi click the wrong side in GameOS11:20
Laneyno chance to do that in Metro :-)11:20
Laneymetro -> steam -> game -> alt-f4 -> shutdown11:20
Laneyno buttons involved11:20
popeygosh11:21
popeysomeone made a session launcher for steam in ubuntu irrc11:21
popey*iirc11:21
Laneymmm11:21
Laneystill haven't given steam on ubuntu a real go11:21
Laneyssd too small11:21
Laneyand it had an annoying bug where the mouse didn't actually click where the pointer was in the early releases11:22
dwatkinsthat reminds me, I should probably order an SSD soon11:22
Laneywhich was really REALLY frustrating11:22
LaneyI would have flipped the desk were I not a weakling11:22
dwatkinswas it a problem in Steam or specific Steam games, Laney?11:28
Laneyhappened in both steam and TF211:28
dwatkinsbah11:28
Laneyi'm sure it's fixed now - that was way back at the star11:28
Laneyt11:28
dwatkinsmost likely, yeah11:29
bastubisanyone else noticed firefox crashing in 13.04 alpha?12:20
einonmooh, Dell's just released the Ubuntu XPS13 developer edition http://bartongeorge.net/2013/03/01/xps-13-developer-edition-available-online-in-europe/12:47
einonmNow to check if there's any LinuxFoundation discount as well...12:47
popey\o/13:01
popeyhttp://www.dell.com/uk/business/p/xps-13-linux/pd.aspx?s=bsd13:01
AlanBellwow13:04
einonmNo LinuxFoundation discount though, which is a little disappointing...13:04
Myrttieinonm: it was announced few weeks ago tho13:08
davmor2popey: I love that the end of that link is bsd like that will make the linux community happy :)13:08
popeyhah13:08
einonmMyrtti: yes, but only available today to actually buy13:09
Myrttiyes.13:09
MyrttiI suppose it would run Debian just as well13:09
davmor2Myrtti: depends on the wifi13:10
MyrttiIntel® Centrino® Advanced-N 6235 (2x2 b/g/n+ Bluetooth Combo Card)13:11
einonmTopcashback doing 8% discount on XPS is the best discount I've found so far.13:12
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AlanBelllease deal doesn't seem very good13:21
AlanBellslightly tempted to get a couple still13:21
Myrttiso including tax that would be how much?13:22
Myrtti+17% ?13:22
AlanBellVAT is 20%13:23
* Myrtti does some mental arithmetics13:25
Myrtti1080 then?13:25
AlanBellhttp://www.dell.com/uk/business/p/xps-13-l321x-mlk/pd?oc=sbnb1326&model_id=xps-13-l321x-mlk& £1019 for the same spec with windows13:25
AlanBellplus VAT13:26
Myrttithat's considerably cheaper then13:26
AlanBellthe Ubuntu one is £120 cheaper, yes13:26
Myrttithere was also a banner for 150 cashback for an old computer13:27
MyrttiI lost it tho13:27
mungbeanhow do i make a column header in Libreoffice to be a drop down chooser containing elements of the list?13:44
popeyisnt that called a pivot table?13:46
dwatkinsdata filter, perhaps13:47
mungbeandwatkins: +1 thanks13:47
mungbeanseems to be a bug in my sheet not working. c+p to a new sheet and made a new filter, now ok13:49
mungbeanLO allows you to sum the columns, excel doesnt (fail)13:49
bigcalmAnybody here use gitolite?14:04
SuperMattnope14:06
bigcalmSo I see14:06
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redtape-renegadeHas anyone realized that Bitcoin has almost gone up by 300% in the last month ?? http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxGBP#igWeeklyztgSzm1g10zm2g25zv14:18
redtape-renegadeHere's the spot price -----------------------> http://preev.com/btc/gbp14:19
amayeris there a way i can replace empathy with xchat in the mail/chat notification dropdown in the system tray?14:30
amayerso when i click chat it opens xchat14:30
amayerand when i have a new message in xchat it makes the envelope blue14:30
* redtape-renegade Finds the source of RMS's Gnu soft toy that he auctions off @ most talks he gives ... http://www.alibaba.com/product-free/112592673/Promotional_giveaway_stuffed_plush_soft_logo.html14:32
shaunofancy 500 of them?14:47
bastubisis anyone else having problems with firefox on 13.04?14:53
AlanBellbastubis: works for me now, but I have not updated today14:53
bastubishmmm, it started playig up yesterday - crashes, if you killall it still claims to be running14:54
bastubisoften it crashes before it's even loaded14:54
bastubisnow opera is mistaking my OS for Mac and won't give me the bloody deb14:55
bastubisI can only launch firefox from cli14:55
AlanBellI tend to use chromium-browser all the time now14:55
AlanBellcould it be something bad in your firefox profile?14:55
bastubisstarting to look that way - but doesn't explain why Opera thinks I'm on a Mac?14:56
AlanBell13.04 was very messy for me yesterday morning actually, no wifi, no touchpad, US keyboard14:57
bastubisgawd lol - I just installed a slew of upgrades14:57
AlanBelldid an update and it all went nice again14:57
bastubisnever mind, 12.04 was so flakey I'm sorta used to it ;)14:58
AlanBell(and yes, I did discover this when opening the laptop to do a client presentation)14:58
bastubisI know - I'm using it for production too - masochistic no doubt lol - but 12.04 was driving me up the wall14:58
bastubisI probably should've done a clean install14:58
bastubissince my 12.04 was broke anyway14:58
AlanBellit has been *really* good for months14:58
AlanBellthat is the only time I have had an issue and it fixed real quick, not even certain it was a problem in the updates14:59
bastubishmmmm. will archive my ff profile and reboot15:00
AlanBellI am using gnome-shell and unity on alternating weeks roughly15:00
bastubisI'm ok with Unity (now) as gnome shell is even more annoying15:00
bastubisI replaced the heinous shambles of the new nautilus with the whatsit thingy15:01
bastubisNemo15:01
bastubismaybe that's causing probs?15:01
bastubisok rebooting, brb15:01
bastubisyeah, must'vebeen something in the profile, working fine now15:21
Laneygosh15:29
Laneyanyone get green energy?15:29
bastubisyou mean uisng a green energy tariff or understanding what it means?15:31
Laneypreferably a dedicated supplier15:32
Laneyseems to be £loads more than normal15:32
bastubisyeah, the r&d is expensive15:32
bastubisI got as far as fitting a supply monitor15:32
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Laneymmm15:33
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LaneyI feel bad about being with EDF given their dubious antics lately15:33
bastubismost energy suppliers are dodgy but EDF does seem to be going for tosser gold15:34
bastubisthen again, I keep meaning to transfer my bank account from lloyds to something less evil but don't get around to it15:34
Laneyyeah that too15:37
Laneydoing that is pretty easy these days, at least for DD/SO which are switched automatically15:37
Laneyjust have to fix people who pay you15:37
Laneyecotricity's website seems to have crapped itself on me. ho hum15:38
bastubisheh, I did think of switching from British Gas but having read reviews of all the other suppliers I just kinda though "what's the point"15:38
bastubisit's the credit card that's a big hassle - I tried with Coop but they wouldn't give me a credit card15:39
davmor2it's all a big price fixing game anyway, the whole point was that there was competition, same thing for petrol there is now no big difference anywhere15:42
MsCourtneyHi, I graphics acceleration is not working on 12.10. Its an Intel GPU. Any ideas?17:13
MsCourtneyIts really slow graphics wise and there is display corruption sometimes.17:14
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amayerMsCourtney: did you look in the additional drivers menu?17:20
ali1234on intel?17:20
MsCourtneyali1234: Its an intel GPU17:20
directhexMsCourtney, how recent an intel gpu?17:30
MsCourtneydirecthex: Very recent.17:31
directhexxserver-xorg-video-intel version 2:2.20.9-0ubuntu2 ?17:32
davmor2MsCourtney: you can try running /usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p17:32
MsCourtneydavmor2: Using Kubuntu17:32
davmor2MsCourtney: that will at least let you know if your card 3d is working17:32
davmor2MsCourtney: hmmmmmm I'm not sure what kubuntu uses17:33
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AlanBellevening all19:28
brobostigonevening AlanBell19:29
diploEvening all19:52
popeyyo19:56
davmor2^ watch out lads it's the Fuzz19:57
Alex________is anyone here?21:36
Alex________i need some help21:36
popeyyes21:38
popeyoh dear21:38
AlanBellgulp, apt-get autoremove is ripping out a gig of stuff22:02
AlanBellok, it knew what it was doing it seems22:03

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