[00:22] <ali1234> adb opens the terminal raw, so it doesn't receive signals
[00:22] <ali1234> i guess the problem is on phone side where it uses the raw input then
[07:59] <diplo> Morning all
[08:27] <jacobw> Good morning all and diplo
[08:28] <popey> yo
[08:28] <AlanBell> morning
[08:31] <jacobw> AlanBell: I'm looking for vTiger resources
[08:32] <AlanBell> yay
[08:39]  * jacobw looks on theopensourcerer.com
[09:21] <bigcalm_> Good morning peeps :)
[09:22]  * bigcalm_ looks at his nick. How'd that happen?
[09:29] <redtape-renegade> Morning , except for sloanies.
[09:29]  * bigcalm grabs keepnick.pl and hopes that will be the end of that
[09:29] <redtape-renegade> nice day today at least.
[10:05] <JamesTait> Happy Friday and Happy St David's Day! :-D
[10:07] <NET||abuse> hi guys, i'm on 12.10 and i'm trying to hook my windows pc audio out to my laptop so i can hear stuff from the windows box too
[10:07] <NET||abuse> so i just have the front of box audio jack going into my docking station mic in.
[10:07] <NET||abuse> i'm hoping to pick up the audio
[10:07] <dwatkins> I tried to do that recently in alsamixer and it worked one week then didn't work the next.
[10:08] <NET||abuse> but pulse isn't showing any optin i can see.
[10:08] <NET||abuse> what alsa mixer tool did you use?
[10:08] <NET||abuse> the command line one is the only one on my box it seems
[10:09] <dwatkins> yeah, that's the one, 'alsamixer' on the terminal, NET||abuse
[10:09] <NET||abuse> don't see hwo to turn anything on
[10:10] <NET||abuse> i've moved all the volume sliders. no luck
[10:11] <redtape-renegade> JamesTait: Yep .. And my Dad is called David . What should I say to him ??
[10:13] <JamesTait> redtape-renegade, "Hi dad"?
[10:15] <JamesTait> redtape-renegade, there may well be some "formal" greeting that Welsh people say on St David's Day, but I have no idea what it might be.
[10:15] <dwatkins> borre da
[10:16] <NET||abuse> hmm, i can see level bouncing around on pavolumecontrol for analogue stero in input devices.
[10:16] <NET||abuse> how do i loop that back now.
[10:17] <JamesTait> "Dydd Gwyl Dewi hapus!"
[10:18] <brobostigon> good morning everyone,
[10:19] <JamesTait> brobostigon, o/
[10:20] <brobostigon> JamesTait: o/
[10:25] <NET||abuse> very frustrating,
[10:25] <NET||abuse> i can see the input level for the line in and mic working
[10:25] <NET||abuse> i just acn't see how to put it through the output/playback channels.
[10:25] <NET||abuse> damn pulse
[10:32] <redtape-renegade> & In Other News ...
[10:32] <redtape-renegade> Ricky gervais is doing a one-off Office special for Comic Relief on the 15th March on BBC1 , this time he is a "music manager"  .. Happy *St David*Brent Day \o/   .
[10:32] <redtape-renegade> page two of Indie 'I' N.paper..
[10:34] <Laney> oh god
[10:34] <Laney> this plant somebody gave me for my birthday about 5 weeks ago is already pretty much done for
[10:34] <Laney> and I just pulled out one of the few surviving leaves while trying to take a dead one off
[10:34] <popey> i found a cactus behind some folders last week
[10:34] <popey> its proper dead
[10:34] <diplo> :P
[10:35] <Laney> oh there's two of those in the kitchen that my landlord had for 15 years before i moved in here
[10:35] <Laney> they don't look so good either
[10:35] <popey> i thought I might be able to revive it
[10:35] <popey> but that seems optimistic
[10:35] <popey> oh, and wifey has binned it
[10:35] <popey> Sorted!
[10:35] <Laney> yeah probably not coming back from that
[10:35] <redtape-renegade> 67popey . Give the Cactus a hugg from me ;)
[10:36] <redtape-renegade> whops seem to be at 6's and 7's today .. :(
[10:36] <Laney> maybe they'll be ok - perhaps they naturally go a bit yellow in the winter? right guys?
[10:36] <Laney> guys? right?
[10:36] <diplo> heh, you sound as bad as my ex wife with plants
[10:36] <diplo> :)
[10:37] <redtape-renegade> Laney, possibly correct.
[10:37] <Laney> ;-)
[10:38] <Laney> on a better note, https://twitter.com/TheJohnsonArms/status/302094965058703360/photo/1 ← this is me tonight
[10:44] <dwatkins> board? ;)
[10:45] <popey> you got a new job working in a bar?
[10:46] <Laney> investing heavily in the pub's future
[10:51] <dwatkins> do they have a club card?
[10:59] <popey> http://popey.com/webcam/ \o/ pussycat
[11:05] <davmor2> Morning all
[11:05] <redtape-renegade> Laney : Invest. in a Pub ? Why didn't you buy an old post-office with an office on top ?
[11:05]  * redtape-renegade still believe's he can rule the world by doing an "I loveFilm" but for software DVD's for ppl to subscribe to .. !!
[11:05] <popey> hello davmor2
[11:07] <redtape-renegade> I remember when you could send a postcard for 10p with a £1 stuck in between the photo and writing paper sheets .. back when I was in "Colditz"...
[11:08] <NET||abuse> popey: check that cats' pulse, he's not moving.
[11:08] <redtape-renegade> .. smoke me a kipper, I'll be back after work..
[11:09] <redtape-renegade> bye for now.
[11:09] <NET||abuse> oh my god, i refreshed and he vanished.
[11:09] <NET||abuse> :P funny how my brain was trained to look for a movement given the url says "webcam"
[11:09] <davmor2> popey: that's sounds ominous, like you were lying in wait for me or something :)
[11:10] <popey> hehe NET||abuse
[11:10] <popey> i do have a live stream but it can only cope with 1 or 2 users at once
[11:10] <popey> I want to proxy it on my server
[11:11] <NET||abuse> :) use uStream and embed
[11:11] <popey> but haven't quite managed to get that working
[11:11] <popey> another day
[11:12] <NET||abuse> :)
[11:13] <davmor2> popey: so the rolling release is quite a popular topic I don't remmeber seeing so much mail on u-devel mailing list :)
[11:15] <bigcalm> davmor2: not that I've ever seen the list, but wouldn't the location change for window buttons have caused just as much hoo-har
[11:16] <davmor2> bigcalm: not like this, that was more the standard ubuntu channels this is the developer channel
[11:17] <bigcalm> Fair enough
[11:17] <bigcalm> davmor2: despite moving to work in an office, looks like I might still be able to do the workplace days.
[11:18] <davmor2> woohoo!
[11:19] <popey> http://havethebuttonsmovedbackyet.com/
[11:19] <bigcalm> popey: one of yours?
[11:19] <popey> ☺
[11:19] <bigcalm> Haha
[11:20] <Laney> I click the wrong side whenever I use shell now
[11:20] <popey> i click the wrong side in GameOS
[11:20] <Laney> no chance to do that in Metro :-)
[11:20] <Laney> metro -> steam -> game -> alt-f4 -> shutdown
[11:20] <Laney> no buttons involved
[11:21] <popey> gosh
[11:21] <popey> someone made a session launcher for steam in ubuntu irrc
[11:21] <popey> *iirc
[11:21] <Laney> mmm
[11:21] <Laney> still haven't given steam on ubuntu a real go
[11:21] <Laney> ssd too small
[11:22] <Laney> and it had an annoying bug where the mouse didn't actually click where the pointer was in the early releases
[11:22] <dwatkins> that reminds me, I should probably order an SSD soon
[11:22] <Laney> which was really REALLY frustrating
[11:22] <Laney> I would have flipped the desk were I not a weakling
[11:28] <dwatkins> was it a problem in Steam or specific Steam games, Laney?
[11:28] <Laney> happened in both steam and TF2
[11:28] <dwatkins> bah
[11:28] <Laney> i'm sure it's fixed now - that was way back at the star
[11:28] <Laney> t
[11:29] <dwatkins> most likely, yeah
[12:20] <bastubis> anyone else noticed firefox crashing in 13.04 alpha?
[12:47] <einonm> ooh, Dell's just released the Ubuntu XPS13 developer edition http://bartongeorge.net/2013/03/01/xps-13-developer-edition-available-online-in-europe/
[12:47] <einonm> Now to check if there's any LinuxFoundation discount as well...
[13:01] <popey> \o/
[13:01] <popey> http://www.dell.com/uk/business/p/xps-13-linux/pd.aspx?s=bsd
[13:04] <AlanBell> wow
[13:04] <einonm> No LinuxFoundation discount though, which is a little disappointing...
[13:08] <Myrtti> einonm: it was announced few weeks ago tho
[13:08] <davmor2> popey: I love that the end of that link is bsd like that will make the linux community happy :)
[13:08] <popey> hah
[13:09] <einonm> Myrtti: yes, but only available today to actually buy
[13:09] <Myrtti> yes.
[13:09] <Myrtti> I suppose it would run Debian just as well
[13:10] <davmor2> Myrtti: depends on the wifi
[13:11] <Myrtti> Intel® Centrino® Advanced-N 6235 (2x2 b/g/n+ Bluetooth Combo Card)
[13:12] <einonm> Topcashback doing 8% discount on XPS is the best discount I've found so far.
[13:21] <AlanBell> lease deal doesn't seem very good
[13:21] <AlanBell> slightly tempted to get a couple still
[13:22] <Myrtti> so including tax that would be how much?
[13:22] <Myrtti> +17% ?
[13:23] <AlanBell> VAT is 20%
[13:25]  * Myrtti does some mental arithmetics
[13:25] <Myrtti> 1080 then?
[13:25] <AlanBell> http://www.dell.com/uk/business/p/xps-13-l321x-mlk/pd?oc=sbnb1326&model_id=xps-13-l321x-mlk& £1019 for the same spec with windows
[13:26] <AlanBell> plus VAT
[13:26] <Myrtti> that's considerably cheaper then
[13:26] <AlanBell> the Ubuntu one is £120 cheaper, yes
[13:27] <Myrtti> there was also a banner for 150 cashback for an old computer
[13:27] <Myrtti> I lost it tho
[13:44] <mungbean> how do i make a column header in Libreoffice to be a drop down chooser containing elements of the list?
[13:46] <popey> isnt that called a pivot table?
[13:47] <dwatkins> data filter, perhaps
[13:47] <mungbean> dwatkins: +1 thanks
[13:49] <mungbean> seems to be a bug in my sheet not working. c+p to a new sheet and made a new filter, now ok
[13:49] <mungbean> LO allows you to sum the columns, excel doesnt (fail)
[14:04] <bigcalm> Anybody here use gitolite?
[14:06] <SuperMatt> nope
[14:06] <bigcalm> So I see
[14:18] <redtape-renegade> Has anyone realized that Bitcoin has almost gone up by 300% in the last month ?? http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxGBP#igWeeklyztgSzm1g10zm2g25zv
[14:19] <redtape-renegade> Here's the spot price -----------------------> http://preev.com/btc/gbp
[14:30] <amayer> is there a way i can replace empathy with xchat in the mail/chat notification dropdown in the system tray?
[14:30] <amayer> so when i click chat it opens xchat
[14:30] <amayer> and when i have a new message in xchat it makes the envelope blue
[14:32]  * redtape-renegade Finds the source of RMS's Gnu soft toy that he auctions off @ most talks he gives ... http://www.alibaba.com/product-free/112592673/Promotional_giveaway_stuffed_plush_soft_logo.html
[14:47] <shauno> fancy 500 of them?
[14:53] <bastubis> is anyone else having problems with firefox on 13.04?
[14:53] <AlanBell> bastubis: works for me now, but I have not updated today
[14:54] <bastubis> hmmm, it started playig up yesterday - crashes, if you killall it still claims to be running
[14:54] <bastubis> often it crashes before it's even loaded
[14:55] <bastubis> now opera is mistaking my OS for Mac and won't give me the bloody deb
[14:55] <bastubis> I can only launch firefox from cli
[14:55] <AlanBell> I tend to use chromium-browser all the time now
[14:55] <AlanBell> could it be something bad in your firefox profile?
[14:56] <bastubis> starting to look that way - but doesn't explain why Opera thinks I'm on a Mac?
[14:57] <AlanBell> 13.04 was very messy for me yesterday morning actually, no wifi, no touchpad, US keyboard
[14:57] <bastubis> gawd lol - I just installed a slew of upgrades
[14:57] <AlanBell> did an update and it all went nice again
[14:58] <bastubis> never mind, 12.04 was so flakey I'm sorta used to it ;)
[14:58] <AlanBell> (and yes, I did discover this when opening the laptop to do a client presentation)
[14:58] <bastubis> I know - I'm using it for production too - masochistic no doubt lol - but 12.04 was driving me up the wall
[14:58] <bastubis> I probably should've done a clean install
[14:58] <bastubis> since my 12.04 was broke anyway
[14:58] <AlanBell> it has been *really* good for months
[14:59] <AlanBell> that is the only time I have had an issue and it fixed real quick, not even certain it was a problem in the updates
[15:00] <bastubis> hmmmm. will archive my ff profile and reboot
[15:00] <AlanBell> I am using gnome-shell and unity on alternating weeks roughly
[15:00] <bastubis> I'm ok with Unity (now) as gnome shell is even more annoying
[15:01] <bastubis> I replaced the heinous shambles of the new nautilus with the whatsit thingy
[15:01] <bastubis> Nemo
[15:01] <bastubis> maybe that's causing probs?
[15:01] <bastubis> ok rebooting, brb
[15:21] <bastubis> yeah, must'vebeen something in the profile, working fine now
[15:29] <Laney> gosh
[15:29] <Laney> anyone get green energy?
[15:31] <bastubis> you mean uisng a green energy tariff or understanding what it means?
[15:32] <Laney> preferably a dedicated supplier
[15:32] <Laney> seems to be £loads more than normal
[15:32] <bastubis> yeah, the r&d is expensive
[15:32] <bastubis> I got as far as fitting a supply monitor
[15:33] <Laney> mmm
[15:33] <Laney> I feel bad about being with EDF given their dubious antics lately
[15:34] <bastubis> most energy suppliers are dodgy but EDF does seem to be going for tosser gold
[15:34] <bastubis> then again, I keep meaning to transfer my bank account from lloyds to something less evil but don't get around to it
[15:37] <Laney> yeah that too
[15:37] <Laney> doing that is pretty easy these days, at least for DD/SO which are switched automatically
[15:37] <Laney> just have to fix people who pay you
[15:38] <Laney> ecotricity's website seems to have crapped itself on me. ho hum
[15:38] <bastubis> heh, I did think of switching from British Gas but having read reviews of all the other suppliers I just kinda though "what's the point"
[15:39] <bastubis> it's the credit card that's a big hassle - I tried with Coop but they wouldn't give me a credit card
[15:42] <davmor2> it's all a big price fixing game anyway, the whole point was that there was competition, same thing for petrol there is now no big difference anywhere
[17:13] <MsCourtney> Hi, I graphics acceleration is not working on 12.10. Its an Intel GPU. Any ideas?
[17:14] <MsCourtney> Its really slow graphics wise and there is display corruption sometimes.
[17:20] <amayer> MsCourtney: did you look in the additional drivers menu?
[17:20] <ali1234> on intel?
[17:20] <MsCourtney> ali1234: Its an intel GPU
[17:30] <directhex> MsCourtney, how recent an intel gpu?
[17:31] <MsCourtney> directhex: Very recent.
[17:32] <directhex> xserver-xorg-video-intel version 2:2.20.9-0ubuntu2 ?
[17:32] <davmor2> MsCourtney: you can try running /usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p
[17:32] <MsCourtney> davmor2: Using Kubuntu
[17:32] <davmor2> MsCourtney: that will at least let you know if your card 3d is working
[17:33] <davmor2> MsCourtney: hmmmmmm I'm not sure what kubuntu uses
[19:28] <AlanBell> evening all
[19:29] <brobostigon> evening AlanBell
[19:52] <diplo> Evening all
[19:56] <popey> yo
[19:57] <davmor2> ^ watch out lads it's the Fuzz
[21:36] <Alex________> is anyone here?
[21:36] <Alex________> i need some help
[21:38] <popey> yes
[21:38] <popey> oh dear
[22:02] <AlanBell> gulp, apt-get autoremove is ripping out a gig of stuff
[22:03] <AlanBell> ok, it knew what it was doing it seems