| jjesse | herm i think i scrwed up putting a ubuntu image on my nexus 7 | 02:59 |
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| jjesse | looks like i have a phone version of it some how | 02:59 |
| jjesse | plus it looks like there are some phone messages on it | 03:00 |
| jjesse | is there a good link for a fresh install of ubuntu for nexus 7? it looks like the one i got from a ubuntu site has all kinds of personal information on it | 03:04 |
| jjesse | jcastro, might want to look at my G+ post i just made, seems like someone forgot to clean up some data before doing a build for Mobile World Congress | 03:23 |
| jjesse | rick_h_android, do you know a lola chang? i think she works at Canonical on the phone stuff | 04:02 |
| jjesse | rick_h_android, see my G+ post | 04:02 |
| jjesse | never mind looks like it was sample data | 04:07 |
| snap-l | Good morning | 12:56 |
| brousch | So far | 12:56 |
| snap-l | we be jammin' | 12:56 |
| rick_h_ | crappy morning...how do people live without middle click? | 12:58 |
| * rick_h_ is going to melt down and cry shortly | 12:59 | |
| snap-l | rick_h_: Foreign machine? | 13:01 |
| rick_h_ | snap-l: no, home docked laptop just no middle click this morning | 13:02 |
| rick_h_ | don't know wtf I did | 13:02 |
| snap-l | oh that sucks | 13:02 |
| brousch | I don't use middle click | 13:04 |
| rick_h_ | how do you live? I mean how do you open new tabs, paste content from terminals, open links from irc/terminals? | 13:05 |
| rick_h_ | middle click is the glue of the desktop | 13:05 |
| brousch | Right-click, open in new tab; ctrl+shift+v | 13:07 |
| brousch | irc is just a click since I use pidgin | 13:07 |
| mathomastech | ctrl+t | 13:14 |
| snap-l | Reminder: we're jamming this weekend | 13:32 |
| snap-l | starting today, and going through Sunday evening | 13:33 |
| rick_h_ | woot, jamming | 13:59 |
| snap-l | Blergh | 14:14 |
| snap-l | Apparently my keyboard has a problem with the left arrow key. | 14:14 |
| rick_h_ | ruh roh | 14:14 |
| snap-l | Yeah, not looking forward to waiting for a replacement. | 14:15 |
| rick_h_ | meh, arrow keys | 14:16 |
| rick_h_ | who needs em | 14:16 |
| snap-l | I do | 14:16 |
| snap-l | sorry, it's the right arrow key. | 14:16 |
| snap-l | still a pain in the cock | 14:19 |
| snap-l | Well, we'll see how their RMA process is. | 14:19 |
| snap-l | Hoping it'll be "we ship you a new one, you ship yours back" | 14:20 |
| snap-l | and not "you ship yours, wait a week, and we'll ship you another one when we've determined what the problem is" | 14:20 |
| rick_h_ | what you need to do is convince widox he wants the filco, then borrow his brown while you wait | 14:22 |
| snap-l | hahaha | 14:22 |
| widox | :o | 14:23 |
| widox | snap-l: I hope you aren't using the arrow keys in vim! | 14:25 |
| snap-l | 70 / 30 between hjkl and arrow keys | 14:25 |
| rick_h_ | nop the arrows ftw | 14:25 |
| snap-l | They're there to be used. :) | 14:26 |
| rick_h_ | just like the scroll lock and pause keys :P | 14:30 |
| snap-l | Just because you're not using the Pause key dowsn't mean I'm not. :) | 14:31 |
| snap-l | (actually, I'm not.) | 14:31 |
| jcastro | jjesse: link? I don't see a post about that | 14:32 |
| jjesse | i deleted it | 14:33 |
| jjesse | jcastro, the people in #ubuntu-touch delt w/ it | 14:33 |
| jcastro | k | 14:33 |
| snap-l | This Red Notebook looks interesting: http://rednotebook.sourceforge.net/downloads.html | 14:36 |
| snap-l | It's definitely active. | 14:36 |
| jcastro | rick_h_: man, colder today | 14:56 |
| jcastro | was hoping to finish up the slush fest in my driveway | 14:56 |
| rick_h_85 | lol yeah hard to clean now | 14:56 |
| rick_h_85 | I cleaned up the last slush when it was wet yesterday | 14:56 |
| rick_h_85 | I do look forward to some windows down weather in ATL | 14:58 |
| snap-l | Yeah, I'm done with this snow stuff | 14:59 |
| snap-l | not looking forwad to the extreme heat, but would be nice to get some of the stink out of the house. | 14:59 |
| widox | spacex launch in a few minutes, http://www.spacex.com/webcast/ | 15:07 |
| snap-l | unmanned rocket? | 15:08 |
| snap-l | Ah, it's a resupply mssion | 15:08 |
| widox | yeah, its a supply run | 15:08 |
| snap-l | that's cool | 15:08 |
| rick_h_ | woot | 15:09 |
| widox | I think they scheduled to do like 12 of them | 15:09 |
| rick_h_ | wish the boy was home, he loves counting down 'liftoff!' now | 15:09 |
| snap-l | OMG, there's a OFO on the pad! | 15:10 |
| snap-l | That's freaking amazing | 15:11 |
| rick_h_ | man that's a lot of rockets on that thing | 15:11 |
| rick_h_ | what's all this kilometer talk? :P | 15:12 |
| snap-l | <3 that this thing is sending a signal in real time back to earth | 15:13 |
| snap-l | Science is metric | 15:13 |
| snap-l | We'll have none of this king's foot nonsense. | 15:13 |
| rick_h_ | I can't help but laugh at using the term 'down range' when the damn thing is heading to SPACE | 15:19 |
| snap-l | Oh boy. | 15:24 |
| widox | doh! | 15:24 |
| widox | alien interception | 15:25 |
| rick_h_ | lol | 15:26 |
| snap-l | I think this forum is getting pummeled | 15:30 |
| jrwren_ | I'm leaning toward riak - what are your thoughts? | 15:46 |
| rick_h_ | jrwren_: because xxx and yyy? | 15:47 |
| snap-l | One thing about having a borked keyboard has taught me is to change over my default editing-modes to vi | 16:06 |
| snap-l | brb | 16:06 |
| snap-l | Let's see if this works. | 16:07 |
| snap-l | Hm, apparently weechat doesn't support vi keybindings from .inputrc | 16:07 |
| jrwren_ | rick_h_: exactly, because XXX and YYY | 16:12 |
| jrwren_ | :) | 16:12 |
| jrwren_ | riak - because its built on lightning memory mapped db, and its distributed, replicated. | 16:12 |
| jrwren_ | although my ideal is the same thing more sql like - like google's spanner. | 16:13 |
| jcastro | jrwren_: have you seen this yet | 16:16 |
| jcastro | http://kkovacs.eu/cassandra-vs-mongodb-vs-couchdb-vs-redis | 16:16 |
| jcastro | gives you a nice overview of all of them | 16:16 |
| rick_h_ | escept riak :P | 16:22 |
| rick_h_ | except | 16:22 |
| jrwren_ | but I hate most of those. | 16:40 |
| jrwren_ | cassandra is JVM, so its out | 16:40 |
| jrwren_ | mongodb - because I want to lose all my data - the RAM limits are not what I want | 16:40 |
| jrwren_ | couchdb - maybe I do want couch, I should look at it a lot more. | 16:40 |
| jrwren_ | redis - same memory limits as mongo | 16:40 |
| greg-g | jrwren_: what kind of memory limits are you running / will run itnnto with redis mongo? | 16:41 |
| jrwren_ | scalability, availability and fault-tolerance of riak is why I like | 16:41 |
| jrwren_ | although I don't knwo why this guys docs say riak is moving to google's leveldb | 16:41 |
| jrwren_ | AFAIK they are already on lightning | 16:41 |
| snap-l | Just use PostgreSQL. :) | 16:42 |
| jrwren_ | no acceptable HA/fault tolerant solutions | 16:43 |
| snap-l | It's postgresql. It's infallible | 16:43 |
| snap-l | It's the pope of databases | 16:43 |
| jrwren_ | couchbase looks good too | 16:44 |
| jrwren_ | its postgresql, its old school, its old. | 16:44 |
| jrwren_ | yes, I know it works, I love it. I love postgresql. | 16:44 |
| jrwren_ | now, deploy postgresql in an environment where chaos monkey is running. | 16:44 |
| jrwren_ | solve that problem, and I'll run what you have. | 16:44 |
| snap-l | http://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.2/static/warm-standby-failover.html | 16:47 |
| snap-l | http://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.2/static/high-availability.html | 16:48 |
| jrwren_ | not acceptable | 16:48 |
| jrwren_ | go do that, run chaos monkey, tell me how it goes. | 16:48 |
| greg-g | oh right, chaos monkey the thing | 16:49 |
| greg-g | thought it was an idiom :) | 16:49 |
| jrwren_ | huh? | 16:49 |
| snap-l | jrwren_: What's the problem of keeping a warm / hot standby for PostgreSQL? | 16:50 |
| snap-l | Just have an automatic failover mechanism | 16:50 |
| jrwren_ | write that for me plz. | 16:51 |
| jrwren_ | and failback too | 16:51 |
| jrwren_ | not just 1 failover | 16:51 |
| snap-l | https://github.com/2ndQuadrant/repmgr | 16:51 |
| jrwren_ | because 5 min later that monkey is going to kill what was your standby | 16:51 |
| snap-l | so have several backup servers in a pool | 16:52 |
| snap-l | and if the monkey can kill off every backup, then game over | 16:52 |
| snap-l | even with nosql | 16:52 |
| jrwren_ | no, not "even with" | 16:52 |
| jrwren_ | its master master v. slave | 16:53 |
| snap-l | if your monkey is good enough to follow the money and edestroy every single backup, then you're fucked | 16:53 |
| jrwren_ | you join another couchbase to the cluster and its just up. | 16:53 |
| jrwren_ | you can restart an instance | 16:53 |
| jrwren_ | but that instance has to come up appropriately. | 16:53 |
| snap-l | nuclear bomb takes out michigan. No backups. Game over. | 16:53 |
| jrwren_ | my understanding of ALL postgresql failover solutions is that lots of human work is required to bring up that slave | 16:53 |
| rick_h_ | yea, pgsql failover isn't meant for cloud-levels of reliability | 16:54 |
| jrwren_ | besides that if I am running from nukes I have other worries. | 16:54 |
| rick_h_ | really, you put pgsql on the server that's old school rock solid failover galore | 16:54 |
| jrwren_ | its just not true - I can put riak in each ec2 zone, my DC here, and azure, all same cluster | 16:54 |
| rick_h_ | jrwren_: I know internally we've used cassandra and happy with it. I just don't know the use cases enough to compare vs riak. Never used it myself | 16:55 |
| rick_h_ | jrwren_: I have heard it compared some with tokyo cabinet more than things like mongo/etc | 16:55 |
| snap-l | Haven't heard much about Tokyo Cabinet in the last few years | 16:56 |
| rick_h_ | yea, same here | 16:56 |
| jrwren_ | yeah. | 16:56 |
| snap-l | http://fallabs.com/kyotocabinet/ | 16:56 |
| rick_h_ | but not looked either | 16:56 |
| snap-l | became Kyoto Cabinet | 16:56 |
| jrwren_ | riak is actually built on a more modern dbm. tokyo is similar | 16:56 |
| jrwren_ | but its shit compared to lightning | 16:56 |
| jrwren_ | lightning claims riak uses lightning. | 16:57 |
| jrwren_ | kovacs page claims kiak uses leveldb | 16:57 |
| jrwren_ | its unclear to me | 16:57 |
| rick_h_ | lol | 16:57 |
| jrwren_ | especially given its erlang | 16:58 |
| snap-l | fucking spaces in filenames need to fucking die in a fucking fire | 18:44 |
| greg-g | :) | 18:45 |
| slestak | tell us what you really think | 19:03 |
| snap-l | Fire isn't good enough | 19:04 |
| snap-l | Anyone else noticed their machine going out to lunch on prolonged disk activity?> | 19:51 |
| snap-l | Seems anytime I do anything disk heavy my whole machine goes slow | 19:51 |
| brousch | snap-l: SSD? | 19:56 |
| snap-l | No | 19:56 |
| snap-l | This is also an older machine | 19:56 |
| brousch | Throw that junk away, man. It's an antique | 19:56 |
| snap-l | I'll have you know it's my main desktop at home. :) | 19:56 |
| snap-l | Never mind I can't remember when I built it. :) | 19:57 |
| brousch | I get slowness when a mounted (network) drive is not available | 19:57 |
| snap-l | Seems whenever I do heavy disk activity the whole thing just grinds down in a spiral of slow until things settle down | 19:57 |
| brousch | Could be a sign of a dying disk | 19:58 |
| snap-l | Yeah, i ran the smart surface test, but I might just toss SPINRITE in it just to be doubly sure | 20:00 |
| brousch | Or a nearly-full disk | 20:01 |
| snap-l | I think Elite Keryboards doesn't answer email on Fridays | 20:45 |
| jrwren_ | snap-l: you haven't learned to deal with spaces in filenames yet? | 22:35 |
| jrwren_ | given how long you've been using linux and unix, that is a bit sad really. | 22:36 |
| snap-l | jrwren_: I forget everytime I have to do a for loop | 22:36 |
| rick_h_ | they're evil, that is all | 22:36 |
| snap-l | because it's not how you'd think it would handle it | 22:36 |
| snap-l | jrwren_: I know how to escape a space, thank you. :) | 22:37 |
| snap-l | I know how to get find to do -print0 | xargs -0 | 22:37 |
| jrwren_ | gnu find and exec + does it for you | 22:38 |
| snap-l | but the genius part was it was a bunch of zip files with the same filenames inside that i had to preserve the directory structure | 22:38 |
| jrwren_ | xargs is obsolete with gnu find AFAIK | 22:38 |
| jrwren_ | ugh, i hate zip files and directory structures :) | 22:38 |
| snap-l | so I was looking for a way to create the directory name using basename and mkdir | 22:39 |
| snap-l | but it was easier to use sftp to my local machine and just right click on them | 22:39 |
| snap-l | created the directories just the way I like it | 22:39 |
| snap-l | does it mean I lose some UNIX cred? | 22:39 |
| snap-l | fuck off. | 22:39 |
| snap-l | ;) | 22:39 |
| jrwren_ | nah, it doesn't. | 22:40 |
| jrwren_ | i experienced similar issue with scp just doay. | 22:40 |
| jrwren_ | just today | 22:40 |
| jrwren_ | but I know the rules, so I both quoted and escaped and things worked | 22:40 |
| snap-l | Yeah, most of the time this stuff works | 22:41 |
| snap-l | but when I have to do things in bulk with spaces, that's when things get weird | 22:41 |
| snap-l | and it seems this company has spaces in spades | 22:41 |
| greg-g | rick_h_: eneloop has colors?!?!?! http://arstechnica.com/science/2013/03/sodium-air-battery-shows-potential/ | 23:24 |
| rick_h_ | greg-g: heh, when was the last time colors did anything on a battery. You just put the cover over it :P | 23:28 |
| greg-g | but! Pretty! | 23:31 |
| rick_h_ | it's like having a pretty colored inner tube | 23:40 |
| rick_h_ | ooh pretty, now put the tire on over it | 23:40 |
| rick_h_ | http://www.airforums.com/ ... this can only end badly | 23:40 |
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