[02:59] herm i think i scrwed up putting a ubuntu image on my nexus 7 [02:59] looks like i have a phone version of it some how [03:00] plus it looks like there are some phone messages on it [03:04] is there a good link for a fresh install of ubuntu for nexus 7? it looks like the one i got from a ubuntu site has all kinds of personal information on it [03:23] jcastro, might want to look at my G+ post i just made, seems like someone forgot to clean up some data before doing a build for Mobile World Congress [04:02] rick_h_android, do you know a lola chang? i think she works at Canonical on the phone stuff [04:02] rick_h_android, see my G+ post [04:07] never mind looks like it was sample data [12:56] Good morning [12:56] So far [12:56] we be jammin' [12:58] crappy morning...how do people live without middle click? [12:59] * rick_h_ is going to melt down and cry shortly [13:01] rick_h_: Foreign machine? [13:02] snap-l: no, home docked laptop just no middle click this morning [13:02] don't know wtf I did [13:02] oh that sucks [13:04] I don't use middle click [13:05] how do you live? I mean how do you open new tabs, paste content from terminals, open links from irc/terminals? [13:05] middle click is the glue of the desktop [13:07] Right-click, open in new tab; ctrl+shift+v [13:07] irc is just a click since I use pidgin [13:14] ctrl+t [13:32] Reminder: we're jamming this weekend [13:33] starting today, and going through Sunday evening [13:59] woot, jamming [14:14] Blergh [14:14] Apparently my keyboard has a problem with the left arrow key. [14:14] ruh roh [14:15] Yeah, not looking forward to waiting for a replacement. [14:16] meh, arrow keys [14:16] who needs em [14:16] I do [14:16] sorry, it's the right arrow key. [14:19] still a pain in the cock [14:19] Well, we'll see how their RMA process is. [14:20] Hoping it'll be "we ship you a new one, you ship yours back" [14:20] and not "you ship yours, wait a week, and we'll ship you another one when we've determined what the problem is" [14:22] what you need to do is convince widox he wants the filco, then borrow his brown while you wait [14:22] hahaha [14:23] :o [14:25] snap-l: I hope you aren't using the arrow keys in vim! [14:25] 70 / 30 between hjkl and arrow keys [14:25] nop the arrows ftw [14:26] They're there to be used. :) [14:30] just like the scroll lock and pause keys :P [14:31] Just because you're not using the Pause key dowsn't mean I'm not. :) [14:31] (actually, I'm not.) [14:32] jjesse: link? I don't see a post about that [14:33] i deleted it [14:33] jcastro, the people in #ubuntu-touch delt w/ it [14:33] k [14:36] This Red Notebook looks interesting: http://rednotebook.sourceforge.net/downloads.html [14:36] It's definitely active. [14:56] rick_h_: man, colder today [14:56] was hoping to finish up the slush fest in my driveway [14:56] lol yeah hard to clean now [14:56] I cleaned up the last slush when it was wet yesterday [14:58] I do look forward to some windows down weather in ATL [14:59] Yeah, I'm done with this snow stuff [14:59] not looking forwad to the extreme heat, but would be nice to get some of the stink out of the house. [15:07] spacex launch in a few minutes, http://www.spacex.com/webcast/ [15:08] unmanned rocket? [15:08] Ah, it's a resupply mssion [15:08] yeah, its a supply run [15:08] that's cool [15:09] woot [15:09] I think they scheduled to do like 12 of them [15:09] wish the boy was home, he loves counting down 'liftoff!' now [15:10] OMG, there's a OFO on the pad! [15:11] That's freaking amazing [15:11] man that's a lot of rockets on that thing [15:12] what's all this kilometer talk? :P [15:13] <3 that this thing is sending a signal in real time back to earth [15:13] Science is metric [15:13] We'll have none of this king's foot nonsense. [15:19] I can't help but laugh at using the term 'down range' when the damn thing is heading to SPACE [15:24] Oh boy. [15:24] doh! [15:25] alien interception [15:26] lol [15:30] I think this forum is getting pummeled [15:46] I'm leaning toward riak - what are your thoughts? [15:47] jrwren_: because xxx and yyy? [16:06] One thing about having a borked keyboard has taught me is to change over my default editing-modes to vi [16:06] brb [16:07] Let's see if this works. [16:07] Hm, apparently weechat doesn't support vi keybindings from .inputrc [16:12] rick_h_: exactly, because XXX and YYY [16:12] :) [16:12] riak - because its built on lightning memory mapped db, and its distributed, replicated. [16:13] although my ideal is the same thing more sql like - like google's spanner. [16:16] jrwren_: have you seen this yet [16:16] http://kkovacs.eu/cassandra-vs-mongodb-vs-couchdb-vs-redis [16:16] gives you a nice overview of all of them [16:22] escept riak :P [16:22] except [16:40] but I hate most of those. [16:40] cassandra is JVM, so its out [16:40] mongodb - because I want to lose all my data - the RAM limits are not what I want [16:40] couchdb - maybe I do want couch, I should look at it a lot more. [16:40] redis - same memory limits as mongo [16:41] jrwren_: what kind of memory limits are you running / will run itnnto with redis mongo? [16:41] scalability, availability and fault-tolerance of riak is why I like [16:41] although I don't knwo why this guys docs say riak is moving to google's leveldb [16:41] AFAIK they are already on lightning [16:42] Just use PostgreSQL. :) [16:43] no acceptable HA/fault tolerant solutions [16:43] It's postgresql. It's infallible [16:43] It's the pope of databases [16:44] couchbase looks good too [16:44] its postgresql, its old school, its old. [16:44] yes, I know it works, I love it. I love postgresql. [16:44] now, deploy postgresql in an environment where chaos monkey is running. [16:44] solve that problem, and I'll run what you have. [16:47] http://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.2/static/warm-standby-failover.html [16:48] http://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.2/static/high-availability.html [16:48] not acceptable [16:48] go do that, run chaos monkey, tell me how it goes. [16:49] oh right, chaos monkey the thing [16:49] thought it was an idiom :) [16:49] huh? [16:50] jrwren_: What's the problem of keeping a warm / hot standby for PostgreSQL? [16:50] Just have an automatic failover mechanism [16:51] write that for me plz. [16:51] and failback too [16:51] not just 1 failover [16:51] https://github.com/2ndQuadrant/repmgr [16:51] because 5 min later that monkey is going to kill what was your standby [16:52] so have several backup servers in a pool [16:52] and if the monkey can kill off every backup, then game over [16:52] even with nosql [16:52] no, not "even with" [16:53] its master master v. slave [16:53] if your monkey is good enough to follow the money and edestroy every single backup, then you're fucked [16:53] you join another couchbase to the cluster and its just up. [16:53] you can restart an instance [16:53] but that instance has to come up appropriately. [16:53] nuclear bomb takes out michigan. No backups. Game over. [16:53] my understanding of ALL postgresql failover solutions is that lots of human work is required to bring up that slave [16:54] yea, pgsql failover isn't meant for cloud-levels of reliability [16:54] besides that if I am running from nukes I have other worries. [16:54] really, you put pgsql on the server that's old school rock solid failover galore [16:54] its just not true - I can put riak in each ec2 zone, my DC here, and azure, all same cluster [16:55] jrwren_: I know internally we've used cassandra and happy with it. I just don't know the use cases enough to compare vs riak. Never used it myself [16:55] jrwren_: I have heard it compared some with tokyo cabinet more than things like mongo/etc [16:56] Haven't heard much about Tokyo Cabinet in the last few years [16:56] yea, same here [16:56] yeah. [16:56] http://fallabs.com/kyotocabinet/ [16:56] but not looked either [16:56] became Kyoto Cabinet [16:56] riak is actually built on a more modern dbm. tokyo is similar [16:56] but its shit compared to lightning [16:57] lightning claims riak uses lightning. [16:57] kovacs page claims kiak uses leveldb [16:57] its unclear to me [16:57] lol [16:58] especially given its erlang [18:44] fucking spaces in filenames need to fucking die in a fucking fire [18:45] :) [19:03] tell us what you really think [19:04] Fire isn't good enough [19:51] Anyone else noticed their machine going out to lunch on prolonged disk activity?> [19:51] Seems anytime I do anything disk heavy my whole machine goes slow [19:56] snap-l: SSD? [19:56] No [19:56] This is also an older machine [19:56] Throw that junk away, man. It's an antique [19:56] I'll have you know it's my main desktop at home. :) [19:57] Never mind I can't remember when I built it. :) [19:57] I get slowness when a mounted (network) drive is not available [19:57] Seems whenever I do heavy disk activity the whole thing just grinds down in a spiral of slow until things settle down [19:58] Could be a sign of a dying disk [20:00] Yeah, i ran the smart surface test, but I might just toss SPINRITE in it just to be doubly sure [20:01] Or a nearly-full disk [20:45] I think Elite Keryboards doesn't answer email on Fridays [22:35] snap-l: you haven't learned to deal with spaces in filenames yet? [22:36] given how long you've been using linux and unix, that is a bit sad really. [22:36] jrwren_: I forget everytime I have to do a for loop [22:36] they're evil, that is all [22:36] because it's not how you'd think it would handle it [22:37] jrwren_: I know how to escape a space, thank you. :) [22:37] I know how to get find to do -print0 | xargs -0 [22:38] gnu find and exec + does it for you [22:38] but the genius part was it was a bunch of zip files with the same filenames inside that i had to preserve the directory structure [22:38] xargs is obsolete with gnu find AFAIK [22:38] ugh, i hate zip files and directory structures :) [22:39] so I was looking for a way to create the directory name using basename and mkdir [22:39] but it was easier to use sftp to my local machine and just right click on them [22:39] created the directories just the way I like it [22:39] does it mean I lose some UNIX cred? [22:39] fuck off. [22:39] ;) [22:40] nah, it doesn't. [22:40] i experienced similar issue with scp just doay. [22:40] just today [22:40] but I know the rules, so I both quoted and escaped and things worked [22:41] Yeah, most of the time this stuff works [22:41] but when I have to do things in bulk with spaces, that's when things get weird [22:41] and it seems this company has spaces in spades [23:24] rick_h_: eneloop has colors?!?!?! http://arstechnica.com/science/2013/03/sodium-air-battery-shows-potential/ [23:28] greg-g: heh, when was the last time colors did anything on a battery. You just put the cover over it :P [23:31] but! Pretty! [23:40] it's like having a pretty colored inner tube [23:40] ooh pretty, now put the tire on over it [23:40] http://www.airforums.com/ ... this can only end badly