| Kilos | morning all | 04:43 |
|---|---|---|
| Kilos | hi henkj | 05:47 |
| henkj | hi Kilos | 05:48 |
| Kilos | hi barrydk | 05:51 |
| inetpro | good mornings | 06:31 |
| inetpro | and hi Kilos | 06:31 |
| inetpro | oh and hi henkj | 06:32 |
| inetpro | hmm... | 06:37 |
| inetpro | en Kilos slaap nog? | 06:37 |
| inetpro | Maaz: coffee on | 06:37 |
| * Maaz puts the kettle on | 06:37 | |
| Kilos | 06.43 morning all | 06:37 |
| Kilos | Maaz, coffee please | 06:37 |
| Maaz | Kilos: Done | 06:37 |
| Kilos | more inetpro | 06:37 |
| inetpro | ai! | 06:38 |
| Kilos | hahaha | 06:38 |
| Kilos | Maaz, large | 06:38 |
| Maaz | In a beer mug just for you Kilos | 06:38 |
| inetpro | Kilos: you reloaded your airtime yet? | 06:39 |
| Kilos | ya did it beginning of the week. had no choice | 06:39 |
| inetpro | hmm... | 06:39 |
| Kilos | so lost near a month | 06:39 |
| Kilos | grrr | 06:39 |
| inetpro | at least you will have a nice 2GB for the month | 06:40 |
| Kilos | lol yeah | 06:40 |
| Kilos | used halg a g already | 06:41 |
| Kilos | half | 06:41 |
| inetpro | sjoe | 06:41 |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for inetpro and Kilos! | 06:41 |
| inetpro | time to get the 10GB | 06:41 |
| Kilos | ai! | 06:41 |
| Kilos | dreams | 06:41 |
| Kilos | Maaz, ty | 06:41 |
| Maaz | You are welcome Kilos | 06:41 |
| Kilos | 2+1 is good if i dont need installs and lotsa googling to find how to sort things | 06:42 |
| Kilos | member 12.04 crashed then went kde and that crashed | 06:43 |
| Kilos | i found some quantal packages in archives | 06:43 |
| Kilos | dunno if that caused it | 06:43 |
| Kilos | xserver.xorg packages | 06:44 |
| Kilos | 3 of the swines | 06:44 |
| inetpro | ai! | 06:48 |
| inetpro | you wasted precious bw? | 06:48 |
| Kilos | yeah lots. and kde was running so lekker till it showed the message thing there are 3 new packages to be upgraded | 06:49 |
| Kilos | then crash | 06:49 |
| Kilos | so next time i gonna change repos | 06:50 |
| Kilos | i dunno if its in our one that they got mixed up | 06:50 |
| Kilos | lo superfly | 06:53 |
| superfly | hi Kilos, inetpro | 06:53 |
| Kilos | i need a refresh of noggin please. have a command i need help to do it correctly. on other pc so cant copy/paste | 06:55 |
| Kilos | fdisk [options] <disk> change partition table | 06:56 |
| Kilos | what goes in by options | 06:56 |
| henkj | hi inetpro | 06:56 |
| inetpro | good morning superfly | 06:56 |
| Kilos | disk is /dev/sdb | 06:56 |
| henkj | hi superfly | 06:57 |
| superfly | heyho henkj! | 06:57 |
| Kilos | oh i see it | 06:58 |
| inetpro | we actually need a fetch only command to make sure you only install updates after everything is downloaded | 06:58 |
| inetpro | Kilos: why not use the gui for that? | 06:59 |
| Kilos | it dont see the drive | 06:59 |
| inetpro | gparted or partitionmanager | 06:59 |
| inetpro | ai! | 06:59 |
| Kilos | ya ai! | 06:59 |
| inetpro | after all this you still have not downloaded the gparted distribution? | 07:00 |
| Kilos | just used gdisk to wipe it so can install fresh mbr | 07:00 |
| Kilos | and gdisk said use fdisk to sort it | 07:01 |
| inetpro | GParted Live is a small bootable GNU/Linux distribution for x86 based computers. | 07:02 |
| inetpro | It enables you to use all the features of the latest versions of the GParted application. | 07:02 |
| inetpro | can be installed on CD, USB, PXE server, and Hard Disk then run on an x86 machine | 07:02 |
| inetpro | http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php | 07:02 |
| Kilos | ok ill get it ty | 07:02 |
| Kilos | just wanna try this as they say before i switch pc off | 07:03 |
| Kilos | wait ill bin what i need help with | 07:04 |
| inetpro | 133 MB | 07:05 |
| Kilos | its worth it if it saves me gray hairs | 07:06 |
| inetpro | you sure you don't have it somewhere on your disk already? | 07:06 |
| Kilos | on my drive | 07:07 |
| Kilos | i have gparted ya | 07:07 |
| Kilos | it dont see the drive | 07:07 |
| inetpro | Kilos: yes, I'm sure we have discussed this before | 07:07 |
| Kilos | one of the first things i always install | 07:08 |
| inetpro | if not then I don't know why not | 07:08 |
| Kilos | http://slexy.org/view/s2yxrPqqEF | 07:08 |
| Kilos | gparted gdebi aptitude always early installs | 07:08 |
| Kilos | are there of those options that will do the work automatically without me having to specify sizes etc | 07:10 |
| Kilos | and can i use -C -H -S all at once | 07:12 |
| Kilos | hi ThatGraemeGuy | 07:12 |
| Kilos | hows the little one | 07:12 |
| Kilos | inetpro, no gui apps could do anything with the drive but gdisk seems to have cleared it all | 07:20 |
| Kilos | so theres hope | 07:21 |
| Kilos | command line tools seem more powerful | 07:22 |
| Kilos | or sensitive and accurate | 07:23 |
| inetpro | Kilos: oh yes if you know the cli tools go for it | 07:24 |
| Kilos | lol | 07:27 |
| Kilos | just tell me what options to use from those i binned please | 07:27 |
| Kilos | and do i use them with one - CHS like that or each one with own - | 07:28 |
| Kilos | ai! never mind it cant read /dev/sdb | 07:38 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | morning :) | 08:05 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | he was sleeping when i left, had a rough night last night for some reason | 08:05 |
| Kilos | shame | 08:05 |
| charl_ | good morning | 08:23 |
| charl_ | Maaz: coffee on | 08:23 |
| * Maaz flips the salt-timer | 08:23 | |
| Kilos | yo charl_ | 08:24 |
| charl_ | hi Kilos | 08:24 |
| charl_ | who named this library: http://developer.gnome.org/liboobs/ | 08:26 |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for charl_! | 08:27 |
| charl_ | Maaz: thanks | 08:28 |
| Maaz | charl_: Okay :-) | 08:28 |
| charl_ | it should be lib-oobs obviously but it's easy to read that wrong | 08:28 |
| charl_ | does anyone have any experience with using unity on two screens? or using unity with vmware workstation? | 08:47 |
| charl_ | my experience so far: it's a disaster | 08:48 |
| tumbleweed | charl_: what release? multi-monitor unity should be a lot better since quantal | 08:48 |
| tumbleweed | (or was it since precise, can't remember) | 08:48 |
| tumbleweed | also, what does unity have to do with vmware? | 08:48 |
| magespawn | good day | 08:48 |
| charl_ | hi magespawn | 08:49 |
| magespawn | hey charl_ | 08:49 |
| charl_ | tumbleweed: i'm running ubuntu 12.10 with all updates applied | 08:49 |
| charl_ | tumbleweed: i have two monitors attached (which is working perfectly configured side-by-side, not mirror mode) | 08:50 |
| charl_ | tumbleweed: everything works perfectly until i start up vmware, then i get "weird" behaviour all over | 08:51 |
| charl_ | by "weird" i mean, for rexample: mouse stops working (i can still move it around but not click anything) | 08:51 |
| charl_ | the launcher also stops working properly, only displays in part or doesn't allow me to open anything | 08:51 |
| charl_ | and various other unusual behaviour | 08:51 |
| charl_ | i don't know if this is related to using two monitors, it's probably unrelated | 08:52 |
| tumbleweed | charl_: sounds like vmware is doing naughty things | 08:53 |
| charl_ | naughty things? :) | 08:53 |
| tumbleweed | no idea | 08:56 |
| charl_ | ok i am trying it under "kubuntu" (kde 4.9.4) now and having no problems so far | 08:57 |
| charl_ | whatever it is, it seems to be related to the combination of unity+vmware | 08:58 |
| charl_ | i would submit a bug but this is a very hard issue to 1) explain 2) debug unless you have it in front of you | 08:58 |
| tumbleweed | charl_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1073298 ? | 08:59 |
| charl_ | it could be related | 09:01 |
| charl_ | although, i didn't have fullscreen applications on both windows | 09:01 |
| charl_ | and even when not running in fullscreen mode, vmware makes unity fall over | 09:01 |
| charl_ | *on both screens | 09:02 |
| charl_ | wv Kilos | 09:51 |
| charl_ | *wb | 09:51 |
| Kilos | i dunno what disconnected ty charl_ | 09:52 |
| charl_ | aargh can you believe it, oracle still distributes mainly in rpm for linux :) | 09:53 |
| charl_ | sorry oracle, but the mainstream is debian-based | 09:54 |
| charl_ | in 2013 in any case | 09:54 |
| magespawn | ThatGraemeGuy: do you have any other resouces like the one you posted last night? | 10:12 |
| Kilos | charl_, use alien to convert them | 10:20 |
| Kilos | hi magespawn | 10:20 |
| magespawn | hey Kilos | 10:27 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | magespawn, what did i post last night? :-/ | 10:58 |
| magespawn | https://www.udacity.com | 10:59 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | oooh right | 10:59 |
| magespawn | busy with cs 101 now | 10:59 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | cs101 is a good start, i did that one last year | 11:01 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | i did cs253 as well | 11:01 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | it's based on google app engine, which is quite interesting to work with | 11:01 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | there's also coursera.org, but i haven't done anything there | 11:02 |
| magespawn | cool will check it out | 11:02 |
| Kilos | wbb | 11:28 |
| inetpro | wow! | 11:55 |
| inetpro | so maybe it's time to switch to MTN again? | 11:55 |
| inetpro | MTN slashes data costs http://www.gadget.co.za/pebble.asp?relid=6008 | 11:55 |
| jrgns | hey all | 12:18 |
| jrgns | any bash scripting experts on the board? | 12:19 |
| Squirm | jrgns: what do you need to know though? | 12:21 |
| jrgns | Squirm: i deploy some of my code using a git post-receive hook | 12:21 |
| jrgns | part of the deploy involves clearing caches | 12:22 |
| jrgns | these caches don't belong to the git user that runs the hook | 12:22 |
| jrgns | so i get permissions errors | 12:22 |
| jrgns | i was wondering if i can bypass this using sudo, where it will actually ask the user doing the push for the sudo password | 12:23 |
| jrgns | if that makes sense? | 12:23 |
| Squirm | you could | 12:23 |
| Squirm | /etc/sudoers | 12:23 |
| Squirm | you can specify what users/groups can run specific commands | 12:24 |
| Squirm | with/without password | 12:24 |
| Squirm | just remember, it'll run the command as root | 12:24 |
| jrgns | i'm guessing i can specify the user using sudo -u | 12:24 |
| jrgns | how specific can I be when specifying commands? can I specify cmd and parameters, or just cmd? | 12:25 |
| charl_ | you can specify the name of the command and parameters | 12:26 |
| Squirm | afaik, the command. so it'll take any parameters | 12:26 |
| Squirm | ah | 12:26 |
| Squirm | cool | 12:26 |
| charl_ | well, if you specify the parameters before the command, they will be sudo parameters | 12:26 |
| charl_ | if you specify the parameters after the command you want to invoke with sudo, they will be the parameters of the command | 12:27 |
| Squirm | I really need to go over my RHCE book. was meant to do my exam on the 15th of this month. Don't know if I'll be ready in time :p | 12:27 |
| charl_ | sudo -u user tail -n 10 /var/log/syslog | 12:29 |
| charl_ | now you are running "tail -n 10 /var/log/syslog" as the user called "user" | 12:29 |
| charl_ | -u is a sudo argument, -n is a tail argument | 12:30 |
| charl_ | jrgns: you want to use the NOPASSWD option i think in this instance | 12:34 |
| jrgns | i meant specifying the parameters of the command in the sudoers file | 12:35 |
| jrgns | so that it will only allow the command if passed with those specific parameters | 12:35 |
| jrgns | as the command that clears the cache is rm -fr /var/cache/website/* | 12:35 |
| charl_ | jrgns: http://superuser.com/questions/167631/fine-grained-sudoers-configuration-allowed-commandline-arguments | 12:51 |
| charl_ | i like the suggestion "Write a script that does what you want and give sudo access to it." | 12:51 |
| jrgns | _charl: awesome, thanx | 12:51 |
| jrgns | it's already a script that does what i want :) | 12:52 |
| jrgns | but yeah, i agree | 12:52 |
| charl_ | it seems like you can in fact specify a command list | 12:52 |
| charl_ | but it looks confusing | 12:52 |
| charl_ | i would rather follow that suggestion | 12:52 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | be sure that the user running the script cannot modify it, because if they can, they could potentially run anything with root access | 12:53 |
| jrgns | ThatGraemeGuy: wise words | 13:10 |
| jrgns | cheers all, enjoy the weekend | 13:11 |
| charl_ | yeah that is a good point, thanks ThatGraemeGuy | 13:17 |
| Symmetria | sup | 14:18 |
| magespawn | not much | 14:19 |
| magespawn | timkeller: is yoyo again | 14:20 |
| Symmetria | gahhhhh 6 month waiting period for my new car :( | 14:20 |
| magespawn | hard life, choose something else | 14:20 |
| magespawn | what car? | 14:21 |
| Symmetria | M5 | 14:22 |
| magespawn | well then it is worth waiting for | 14:22 |
| magespawn | stock, or are you modifying it? | 14:23 |
| magespawn | inetpro ping | 14:24 |
| Symmetria | magespawn its got every optional extra known to man on it | 14:28 |
| Symmetria | and a coupla other mods | 14:28 |
| Symmetria | its got official bmw chip in it and governer removed etc | 14:28 |
| magespawn | that is the way to go | 14:30 |
| magespawn | out run the highway patrol | 14:30 |
| Symmetria | I test drove the nissan GTR as well | 14:30 |
| Symmetria | its a lot faster than the M5, but... its kinda strange, for everything in there, it just doesnt feel like you're driving the same luxury | 14:30 |
| Symmetria | and its 2 damn quiet | 14:30 |
| Symmetria | you driving a car that fast, the engine must howl at you when you put your foot down, it must FEEL like you're in a performance machine | 14:31 |
| Symmetria | and you just dont get that from the GTR | 14:31 |
| magespawn | all that german engineering | 14:32 |
| charl_ | well if you are ordering a BMW M5 it is surely worth waiting for? | 14:32 |
| Symmetria | hehehe yeah but its still annoying to have to wait | 14:33 |
| Symmetria | ;p | 14:33 |
| charl_ | not exactly a cheap vehicle | 14:33 |
| charl_ | looking at the wikipedia page now http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_M5 | 14:33 |
| magespawn | my new sort of buzz car is the nissan GTR | 14:33 |
| charl_ | there are only two assembly points in the world, one in germany (obviously) and the other in south africa | 14:33 |
| charl_ | i didn't realise they assemble BMW's in south africa, that is quite impressive | 14:34 |
| magespawn | did not know that | 14:34 |
| magespawn | none in the states? | 14:34 |
| charl_ | not listed on the wikipedia | 14:34 |
| Symmetria | charl_ south african plant though doesnt make the M5 anymore though :( | 14:35 |
| charl_ | ah i see, maybe the wikipedia is outdated | 14:35 |
| Symmetria | heh, we're the second largest producer of 3 series in the world though | 14:36 |
| charl_ | yes then they have to bring it from germany by ship, no wonder you have to wait for 6 months :P | 14:36 |
| Symmetria | my ex fiance's dad ran their paint shop | 14:36 |
| Symmetria | magespawn I test drove that GTR | 14:36 |
| magespawn | awesome car | 14:36 |
| Symmetria | its fast as hell, and it handles well, but... as I said, its missing something | 14:36 |
| magespawn | price difference? | 14:36 |
| Symmetria | its 2 damn quiet, it doesnt howl at you the way a sports car should, and it just... doesnt have that feeling you get from a germany luxury car | 14:37 |
| Symmetria | gtr is substantially cheaper | 14:37 |
| Symmetria | and you can feel it when you're in it | 14:37 |
| magespawn | then take that money put it all into after market tuning | 14:37 |
| Symmetria | lol i was tempted to just go screw it and buy an aston | 14:38 |
| Symmetria | but that was a little... outta budget ;p | 14:39 |
| magespawn | well at least you will get to work quick | 14:45 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | I'd have a C63 Coupe over a GTR | 15:04 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | GTR is nice on paper, but like you say, the noise isn't there | 15:04 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | and on that bombshell, it is time to go! | 15:05 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | bye all | 15:05 |
| charl_ | have a good weekend all! | 15:17 |
| magespawn | brb server reboot | 15:32 |
| Kilos | eveing all | 15:36 |
| Kilos | evening too | 15:36 |
| Kilos | hi psyatw | 15:43 |
| Kilos | inetpro, is jy nat? | 15:43 |
| Kilos | aw netsplits again | 15:45 |
| magespawn | hey Kilos just on my way home | 15:51 |
| magespawn | later all] | 15:51 |
| Kilos | k | 15:51 |
| Kilos | hi nlsthzn Vince-0 | 16:05 |
| Vince-0 | hi | 16:05 |
| nlsthzn | alo | 16:06 |
| psyatw | hi Kilos | 16:17 |
| superfly | moo | 16:40 |
| nlsthzn | >.> | 16:41 |
| Kilos | hehe | 16:43 |
| Kilos | aw timkeller your connection really sucks | 17:46 |
| Kilos | isnt there something you can do to get it more stable | 17:46 |
| Kilos | looks like about a 10 minute timeout | 17:47 |
| * Kilos hides join/part messages for now | 17:53 | |
| Squirm | hi | 18:03 |
| * nlsthzn should be in bed already \o/ | 18:07 | |
| nlsthzn | good night -za land... and good luck with the jam tomorrow :) be sure to get some pics etc. and someone make a blog post or link me the info and I will do it if needed ;) | 18:14 |
| Kilos | night all . sleep tight | 18:33 |
| Squirm | night | 18:33 |
| smile4ever | hoi :D | 18:59 |
| Squirm | hoi to you too | 19:03 |
| * Squirm looks at timkeller | 19:03 | |
| Squirm | hi psyatw | 19:03 |
| psyatw | hi Squirm | 19:03 |
| psyatw | hoi | 19:04 |
| Squirm | :/ | 19:04 |
| psyatw | why so sad? | 19:08 |
| Squirm | not sad | 19:15 |
| Squirm | grrr | 19:15 |
| * smile4ever looks at Squirm | 19:17 | |
| smile4ever | :p | 19:17 |
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