[04:43] morning all [05:47] hi henkj [05:48] hi Kilos [05:51] hi barrydk [06:31] good mornings [06:31] and hi Kilos [06:32] oh and hi henkj [06:37] hmm... [06:37] en Kilos slaap nog? [06:37] Maaz: coffee on [06:37] * Maaz puts the kettle on [06:37] 06.43 morning all [06:37] Maaz, coffee please [06:37] Kilos: Done [06:37] more inetpro [06:38] ai! [06:38] hahaha [06:38] Maaz, large [06:38] In a beer mug just for you Kilos [06:39] Kilos: you reloaded your airtime yet? [06:39] ya did it beginning of the week. had no choice [06:39] hmm... [06:39] so lost near a month [06:39] grrr [06:40] at least you will have a nice 2GB for the month [06:40] lol yeah [06:41] used halg a g already [06:41] half [06:41] sjoe [06:41] Coffee's ready for inetpro and Kilos! [06:41] time to get the 10GB [06:41] ai! [06:41] dreams [06:41] Maaz, ty [06:41] You are welcome Kilos [06:42] 2+1 is good if i dont need installs and lotsa googling to find how to sort things [06:43] member 12.04 crashed then went kde and that crashed [06:43] i found some quantal packages in archives [06:43] dunno if that caused it [06:44] xserver.xorg packages [06:44] 3 of the swines [06:48] ai! [06:48] you wasted precious bw? [06:49] yeah lots. and kde was running so lekker till it showed the message thing there are 3 new packages to be upgraded [06:49] then crash [06:50] so next time i gonna change repos [06:50] i dunno if its in our one that they got mixed up [06:53] lo superfly [06:53] hi Kilos, inetpro [06:55] i need a refresh of noggin please. have a command i need help to do it correctly. on other pc so cant copy/paste [06:56] fdisk [options] change partition table [06:56] what goes in by options [06:56] hi inetpro [06:56] good morning superfly [06:56] disk is /dev/sdb [06:57] hi superfly [06:57] heyho henkj! [06:58] oh i see it [06:58] we actually need a fetch only command to make sure you only install updates after everything is downloaded [06:59] Kilos: why not use the gui for that? [06:59] it dont see the drive [06:59] gparted or partitionmanager [06:59] ai! [06:59] ya ai! [07:00] after all this you still have not downloaded the gparted distribution? [07:00] just used gdisk to wipe it so can install fresh mbr [07:01] and gdisk said use fdisk to sort it [07:02] GParted Live is a small bootable GNU/Linux distribution for x86 based computers. [07:02] It enables you to use all the features of the latest versions of the GParted application. [07:02] can be installed on CD, USB, PXE server, and Hard Disk then run on an x86 machine [07:02] http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php [07:02] ok ill get it ty [07:03] just wanna try this as they say before i switch pc off [07:04] wait ill bin what i need help with [07:05] 133 MB [07:06] its worth it if it saves me gray hairs [07:06] you sure you don't have it somewhere on your disk already? [07:07] on my drive [07:07] i have gparted ya [07:07] it dont see the drive [07:07] Kilos: yes, I'm sure we have discussed this before [07:08] one of the first things i always install [07:08] if not then I don't know why not [07:08] http://slexy.org/view/s2yxrPqqEF [07:08] gparted gdebi aptitude always early installs [07:10] are there of those options that will do the work automatically without me having to specify sizes etc [07:12] and can i use -C -H -S all at once [07:12] hi ThatGraemeGuy [07:12] hows the little one [07:20] inetpro, no gui apps could do anything with the drive but gdisk seems to have cleared it all [07:21] so theres hope [07:22] command line tools seem more powerful [07:23] or sensitive and accurate [07:24] Kilos: oh yes if you know the cli tools go for it [07:27] lol [07:27] just tell me what options to use from those i binned please [07:28] and do i use them with one - CHS like that or each one with own - [07:38] ai! never mind it cant read /dev/sdb [08:05] morning :) [08:05] he was sleeping when i left, had a rough night last night for some reason [08:05] shame [08:23] good morning [08:23] Maaz: coffee on [08:23] * Maaz flips the salt-timer [08:24] yo charl_ [08:24] hi Kilos [08:26] who named this library: http://developer.gnome.org/liboobs/ [08:27] Coffee's ready for charl_! [08:28] Maaz: thanks [08:28] charl_: Okay :-) [08:28] it should be lib-oobs obviously but it's easy to read that wrong [08:47] does anyone have any experience with using unity on two screens? or using unity with vmware workstation? [08:48] my experience so far: it's a disaster [08:48] charl_: what release? multi-monitor unity should be a lot better since quantal [08:48] (or was it since precise, can't remember) [08:48] also, what does unity have to do with vmware? [08:48] good day [08:49] hi magespawn [08:49] hey charl_ [08:49] tumbleweed: i'm running ubuntu 12.10 with all updates applied [08:50] tumbleweed: i have two monitors attached (which is working perfectly configured side-by-side, not mirror mode) [08:51] tumbleweed: everything works perfectly until i start up vmware, then i get "weird" behaviour all over [08:51] by "weird" i mean, for rexample: mouse stops working (i can still move it around but not click anything) [08:51] the launcher also stops working properly, only displays in part or doesn't allow me to open anything [08:51] and various other unusual behaviour [08:52] i don't know if this is related to using two monitors, it's probably unrelated [08:53] charl_: sounds like vmware is doing naughty things [08:53] naughty things? :) [08:56] no idea [08:57] ok i am trying it under "kubuntu" (kde 4.9.4) now and having no problems so far [08:58] whatever it is, it seems to be related to the combination of unity+vmware [08:58] i would submit a bug but this is a very hard issue to 1) explain 2) debug unless you have it in front of you [08:59] charl_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1073298 ? [09:01] it could be related [09:01] although, i didn't have fullscreen applications on both windows [09:01] and even when not running in fullscreen mode, vmware makes unity fall over [09:02] *on both screens [09:51] wv Kilos [09:51] *wb [09:52] i dunno what disconnected ty charl_ [09:53] aargh can you believe it, oracle still distributes mainly in rpm for linux :) [09:54] sorry oracle, but the mainstream is debian-based [09:54] in 2013 in any case [10:12] ThatGraemeGuy: do you have any other resouces like the one you posted last night? [10:20] charl_, use alien to convert them [10:20] hi magespawn [10:27] hey Kilos [10:58] magespawn, what did i post last night? :-/ [10:59] https://www.udacity.com [10:59] oooh right [10:59] busy with cs 101 now [11:01] cs101 is a good start, i did that one last year [11:01] i did cs253 as well [11:01] it's based on google app engine, which is quite interesting to work with [11:02] there's also coursera.org, but i haven't done anything there [11:02] cool will check it out [11:28] wbb [11:55] wow! [11:55] so maybe it's time to switch to MTN again? [11:55] MTN slashes data costs http://www.gadget.co.za/pebble.asp?relid=6008 [12:18] hey all [12:19] any bash scripting experts on the board? [12:21] jrgns: what do you need to know though? [12:21] Squirm: i deploy some of my code using a git post-receive hook [12:22] part of the deploy involves clearing caches [12:22] these caches don't belong to the git user that runs the hook [12:22] so i get permissions errors [12:23] i was wondering if i can bypass this using sudo, where it will actually ask the user doing the push for the sudo password [12:23] if that makes sense? [12:23] you could [12:23] /etc/sudoers [12:24] you can specify what users/groups can run specific commands [12:24] with/without password [12:24] just remember, it'll run the command as root [12:24] i'm guessing i can specify the user using sudo -u [12:25] how specific can I be when specifying commands? can I specify cmd and parameters, or just cmd? [12:26] you can specify the name of the command and parameters [12:26] afaik, the command. so it'll take any parameters [12:26] ah [12:26] cool [12:26] well, if you specify the parameters before the command, they will be sudo parameters [12:27] if you specify the parameters after the command you want to invoke with sudo, they will be the parameters of the command [12:27] I really need to go over my RHCE book. was meant to do my exam on the 15th of this month. Don't know if I'll be ready in time :p [12:29] sudo -u user tail -n 10 /var/log/syslog [12:29] now you are running "tail -n 10 /var/log/syslog" as the user called "user" [12:30] -u is a sudo argument, -n is a tail argument [12:34] jrgns: you want to use the NOPASSWD option i think in this instance [12:35] i meant specifying the parameters of the command in the sudoers file [12:35] so that it will only allow the command if passed with those specific parameters [12:35] as the command that clears the cache is rm -fr /var/cache/website/* [12:51] jrgns: http://superuser.com/questions/167631/fine-grained-sudoers-configuration-allowed-commandline-arguments [12:51] i like the suggestion "Write a script that does what you want and give sudo access to it." [12:51] _charl: awesome, thanx [12:52] it's already a script that does what i want :) [12:52] but yeah, i agree [12:52] it seems like you can in fact specify a command list [12:52] but it looks confusing [12:52] i would rather follow that suggestion [12:53] be sure that the user running the script cannot modify it, because if they can, they could potentially run anything with root access [13:10] ThatGraemeGuy: wise words [13:11] cheers all, enjoy the weekend [13:17] yeah that is a good point, thanks ThatGraemeGuy [14:18] sup [14:19] not much [14:20] timkeller: is yoyo again [14:20] gahhhhh 6 month waiting period for my new car :( [14:20] hard life, choose something else [14:21] what car? [14:22] M5 [14:22] well then it is worth waiting for [14:23] stock, or are you modifying it? [14:24] inetpro ping [14:28] magespawn its got every optional extra known to man on it [14:28] and a coupla other mods [14:28] its got official bmw chip in it and governer removed etc [14:30] that is the way to go [14:30] out run the highway patrol [14:30] I test drove the nissan GTR as well [14:30] its a lot faster than the M5, but... its kinda strange, for everything in there, it just doesnt feel like you're driving the same luxury [14:30] and its 2 damn quiet [14:31] you driving a car that fast, the engine must howl at you when you put your foot down, it must FEEL like you're in a performance machine [14:31] and you just dont get that from the GTR [14:32] all that german engineering [14:32] well if you are ordering a BMW M5 it is surely worth waiting for? [14:33] hehehe yeah but its still annoying to have to wait [14:33] ;p [14:33] not exactly a cheap vehicle [14:33] looking at the wikipedia page now http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_M5 [14:33] my new sort of buzz car is the nissan GTR [14:33] there are only two assembly points in the world, one in germany (obviously) and the other in south africa [14:34] i didn't realise they assemble BMW's in south africa, that is quite impressive [14:34] did not know that [14:34] none in the states? [14:34] not listed on the wikipedia [14:35] charl_ south african plant though doesnt make the M5 anymore though :( [14:35] ah i see, maybe the wikipedia is outdated [14:36] heh, we're the second largest producer of 3 series in the world though [14:36] yes then they have to bring it from germany by ship, no wonder you have to wait for 6 months :P [14:36] my ex fiance's dad ran their paint shop [14:36] magespawn I test drove that GTR [14:36] awesome car [14:36] its fast as hell, and it handles well, but... as I said, its missing something [14:36] price difference? [14:37] its 2 damn quiet, it doesnt howl at you the way a sports car should, and it just... doesnt have that feeling you get from a germany luxury car [14:37] gtr is substantially cheaper [14:37] and you can feel it when you're in it [14:37] then take that money put it all into after market tuning [14:38] lol i was tempted to just go screw it and buy an aston [14:39] but that was a little... outta budget ;p [14:45] well at least you will get to work quick [15:04] I'd have a C63 Coupe over a GTR [15:04] GTR is nice on paper, but like you say, the noise isn't there [15:05] and on that bombshell, it is time to go! [15:05] bye all [15:17] have a good weekend all! [15:32] brb server reboot [15:36] eveing all [15:36] evening too [15:43] hi psyatw [15:43] inetpro, is jy nat? [15:45] aw netsplits again [15:51] hey Kilos just on my way home [15:51] later all] [15:51] k [16:05] hi nlsthzn Vince-0 [16:05] hi [16:06] alo [16:17] hi Kilos [16:40] moo [16:41] >.> [16:43] hehe [17:46] aw timkeller your connection really sucks [17:46] isnt there something you can do to get it more stable [17:47] looks like about a 10 minute timeout [17:53] * Kilos hides join/part messages for now [18:03] hi [18:07] * nlsthzn should be in bed already \o/ [18:14] good night -za land... and good luck with the jam tomorrow :) be sure to get some pics etc. and someone make a blog post or link me the info and I will do it if needed ;) [18:33] night all . sleep tight [18:33] night [18:59] hoi :D [19:03] hoi to you too [19:03] * Squirm looks at timkeller [19:03] hi psyatw [19:03] hi Squirm [19:04] hoi [19:04] :/ [19:08] why so sad? [19:15] not sad [19:15] grrr [19:17] * smile4ever looks at Squirm [19:17] :p === Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za [22:23] YawN === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za