[00:00] <dsprc> tgm4883:  https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2012/10/privacy-ubuntu-1210-amazon-ads-and-data-leaks
[00:00] <dsprc> hope i got that out correctly. screen is not playing well with other ncurses tools today
[00:00] <tgm4883> dsprc, ah, so what you actually meant was, anything that gets filtered though the amazon scope gets sent to amazon, not "it is not just logging "Searches" every time you type somethign into dash it sends those keystrokes off to a remote server and canonical state that they will share such information to 3rd parties"
[00:01] <invariant> For every ignorant user (and there are a lot of those), it's nothing short of spying.
[00:01] <brkc> Ease of use. You can install third-party pacakages from source with PPAs. Canonical offers paid support. Out of all the distributions, it has the most support (Steam supports it for example). Relatively bleeding-edge packages. It looks pretty.
[00:02] <dsprc> tgm4883: no. everything is sent up to canonical & amazon it then gets filtered and routed there. your local machine handles the display of locally installed stuff
[00:02] <brkc> Those are my pros, cagrijost, but I think they vary from person to person.
[00:03] <tgm4883> dsprc, that link you sent is confusing then. First they say it happens for every search, then they say to stop that just remove the amazon scope. So which is it
[00:03] <cagrijost> i guess you can disable that as you said, are there any good things about ubuntu then??
[00:03] <invariant> cagrijost, I think the number of things which Ubuntu does that are indispensable is 0.
[00:03] <cagrijost> oops
[00:03] <dsprc> tgm4883: read TFA and some of the comments from developers and users on launchpad linked in TFA
[00:03] <cagrijost> brkc: would you recommend ubuntu or any other distros?
[00:03] <invariant> cagrijost, if you care about these things, just run a community distribution.
[00:03] <jch2os> dsprc - I haven't used aptitude much, but aptitude safe-upgrade and full-upgrade both fail with the same error
[00:04] <brkc> cagrijost, what kind of user are you?
[00:04] <invariant> cagrijost, something like Debian or Arch.
[00:04] <invariant> cagrijost, for beginners, I would suggest Debian Stable.
[00:04] <tgm4883> dsprc, thanks for being polite about it. I read the article. It literally says to "sudo apt-get remove unity-lens-shopping"
[00:04] <tgm4883> dsprc, which is the amazon stuff
[00:05] <invariant> tgm4883, the problem is that they can just rename the package at some point.
[00:05] <cagrijost> brkc: well i like the desktop to be pretty, and im a student. ill still keep win8 for games and software i guess though
[00:05] <tgm4883> invariant, not sure if serious.....
[00:05] <dsprc> jch2os: not a clue then.
[00:05] <invariant> tgm4883, very serious.
[00:05] <tgm4883> invariant, sorry, that was sarcasm
[00:05] <invariant> tgm4883, I have no doubt that they will do something like that.
[00:06] <invariant> tgm4883, I am not sure whether you know what sarcasm is.
[00:06] <dsprc> tgm4883: ubuntu is run by a corporation. sure you can opt-out of the spyware by it is installed _by default_.
[00:06] <tgm4883> invariant, why. What would be the point in that. If they seriously wanted to prevent you from removing it, it would be dang easy
[00:06] <invariant> tgm4883, that's not the point.
[00:06] <jch2os> anyone have any ideas how to fix this, http://pastebin.com/26RPTcyC
[00:06] <tgm4883> invariant, eg. just build it into Unity
[00:06] <invariant> tgm4883, are you really this stupid?
[00:06] <invariant> tgm4883, let me spell it out for you then.
[00:06] <tgm4883> dsprc, so is redhat
[00:07] <invariant> tgm4883, the whole idea is that they can say to everyone 'but you can disable it, so it is not a problem!'.
[00:07] <dsprc> tgm4883: and red hat doesnt have to throw spyware into the distro to turn a profit...
[00:07] <invariant> tgm4883, but meanwhile people will not remain up to date regarding their new changes and as a result they will harvest more information.
[00:07] <tgm4883> dsprc, but you led with "ubuntu is run by a corporation.". Don't say corporations are evil and in the same breath say they are ok
[00:07] <invariant> tgm4883, it's all just a marketing trick and you are falling for it.
[00:08] <tgm4883> invariant, I suppose the switches to disable it without uninstalling it are probably just for show to then
[00:08] <brkc> cagrijost, yes, but what will you primarly be doing with Linux? Do you want to tinker around with it and learn? Will you be programming? Do you just want to be able to say you run Linux? Do Macs appeal to you? Etc.
[00:09] <dsprc> tgm4883: did i say they are evil? i said it was a corporation. meaning the direction of the distro is driven by for-profit interests and not what is best for users or a community
[00:09] <invariant> tgm4883, man, I explained it to you and you still don't get it.
[00:09] <invariant> tgm4883, how old are you?
[00:09] <invariant> tgm4883, you must be the most naive person in the channel now.
[00:09] <tgm4883> invariant, wow, good one
[00:10] <cagrijost> brkc: i guess i will be playing around with it, i program on microsoft studios on my studies, so thats win i guess. Guess to just try something new
[00:10] <cagrijost> so yeah, i think its tinker around
[00:10] <invariant> tgm4883, I will just go and guess that you are paid to spread misinformation now.
[00:10] <tgm4883> invariant, it's good that you are here to protect everyone then
[00:11] <invariant> tgm4883, what do you do for a living?
[00:11] <tgm4883> invariant, because since I obviously disagree with you, I'm an ignorant child. Geez, having a discussion with you is entertaining
[00:11] <brkc> If you want to tinker and learn, I suggest Arch Linux, but please, install it in *VirtualBox* and use it first. You will have a lot of questions. For most of them, you can use their wiki.
[00:11] <tgm4883> invariant, linux system admin
[00:11] <invariant> tgm4883, ok, what is wrong with rm *?
[00:11] <Guest47314> hello
[00:11] <invariant> tgm4883, you have 10 seconds to answer before I know you are lying.
[00:11] <npf> escott: this is what I am using
[00:12] <npf> escott: http://pastebin.com/3mwHpAsb
[00:12] <tgm4883> invariant, nothing
[00:12] <invariant> tgm4883, ok, there we go.
[00:12] <cagrijost> brkc: ubuntu looks quite good on the website and so on, they are doing good marketing about it, compared to other distros. but i've found some hating blogs on the net that made me reconsider
[00:12] <invariant> tgm4883, you are not a Linux system admin.
[00:12] <tgm4883> invariant, providing you want to remove everything in that directory
[00:12] <tgm4883> well, your current directory
[00:12] <invariant> tgm4883, or just unexperienced.
[00:12] <tgm4883> well, it wouldn't remove directories actually
[00:13] <tgm4883> invariant, but thanks, I sure do hope I passed your test
[00:13] <tgm4883> invariant, what do you do for a living?
[00:13] <invariant> tgm4883, all you have proven now is that I don't want you near my machines.
[00:13] <escott> npf, scripts run in their own shell. thats what the shebang is for
[00:13] <iter> guys, could you please keep the e-peen contest down for a second?
[00:13] <neon__> I have a laptop with broken screen. If I would install linux in a VM on the laptop disk, would I get output over the HDMI? (normally this laptop don't output on HDMI on boot)
[00:13] <escott> npf, do you want an alias?
[00:13] <dsprc> brkc: slackware is good too. if you want to tinker slack is pretty good at that. arch has too many sane and intelligent defaults :)
[00:14] <tgm4883> invariant, seriously. 'rm *' isn't a bad command
[00:14] <invariant> tgm4883, you failed my test.
[00:14] <npf> escott: alias
[00:14] <tgm4883> invariant, nobody cares
[00:14] <iter> invariant, tgm4883 please take it elsewhere
[00:14] <invariant> tgm4883, try to read a book and don't tell anyone you are a system admin until you understand the answer.
[00:14] <brkc> cagrijost, it's mainly due to Ubuntu changing from a traditional interface to one more suitable for tablets, and of course, the Amazon thing. Actually, if this is your first distribution, then yeah, I recommend Ubuntu.
[00:15] <tgm4883> whatever
[00:15] <cagrijost> arch looks kind of hard. can i customize in ubuntu aswell?
[00:15] <invariant> cagrijost, all distributions can be customized in different ways to get the exact same results.
[00:15] <subman> I am getting extemely poor graphics performance running Ubuntu 12.10.  glxgears gives 2.5 fps.  I am running the nvidia drivers and a geforce 6200
[00:15] <invariant> cagrijost, don't think you will give up some features for some things.
[00:16] <tgm4883> invariant, out of curiosity, what do you think 'rm *' does?
[00:16] <cagrijost> okay
[00:16] <brkc> cagrijost, you can customize in Ubuntu, but the methods of customizing it are just less organized.
[00:16] <invariant> tgm4883, read a book.
[00:16] <Tellmarch> nothing wrong with "rm *", assuming that's what you watn to do
[00:16] <cagrijost> okay, thanks for the help brkc and invariant :-)
[00:16] <iter> oh please seriously
[00:16] <npf> escott:  All I want to do is change to a certian directory then mv all files to a nother location
[00:17] <cagrijost> i think ill start with ubuntu for now
[00:17] <brkc> No problem. I recommend it.
[00:17] <cagrijost> and disable that amazon thing
[00:17] <cagrijost> i think, i dont mind really
[00:17] <invariant> brkc, what is that even supposed to mean?
[00:17] <escott> npf, there are no move commands in your script
[00:17] <invariant> Oh, noes, tgm4883 is going to send me private messages.
[00:18] <brkc> invariant, about less organized? I mean that you are more likely to find how to customize on Google than the wiki.
[00:18]  * tgm4883 rolls eyes
[00:19] <npf> at the point of this script im changing the directory  second line would look like mv * /media/disk1
[00:19] <escott> npf, ok
[00:19] <iter> npf: specify the full path in line 2
[00:19] <brkc> invariant, compared to Arch Linux I mean.
[00:19] <brkc> Of course, you can find plenty of things on the Ubuntu wiki.
[00:19] <PatrickDickey> Hi everyone. Has anyone else had an issue with the latest kernel update failing? I get to a point where it's finding the EXTLINUX directory, and it freezes up there (I let it run for about 10 hours and it never finished).
[00:19] <invariant> brkc, which wiki is better according to you?
[00:20] <npf> escott:  but wht doesnt that work in the script cd ~/Videos
[00:20] <brkc> Arch Linux's wiki seems better to me.
[00:20] <invariant> brkc, I think the Arch wiki is better, because it contains advanced level contents.
[00:20] <jch2os> anyone have any ideas about this? http://pastebin.com/26RPTcyC  I can't seem to get around it
[00:20] <escott> npf, i think you are confused because you dont understand subshells
[00:20] <brkc> invariant, indeed. I agree with you.
[00:20] <iter> npf: script may be running in a different context, which is why you should use the full path
[00:21] <escott> npf, its running in a subshell which has its own cwd. it wont affect your shell
[00:21] <cagrijost> one last question krkc and invariant: do you recommend wubi or a normal install through usb?
[00:21] <invariant> cagrijost, normal install.
[00:21] <npf> i get it. its opening a shell and running in the background
[00:21] <invariant> cagrijost, there is a simple reason for that.
[00:22] <invariant> cagrijost, most advanced users never used wubi.
[00:22] <invariant> cagrijost, so, there are likely more problems with wubi.
[00:22] <invariant> cagrijost, there is of course a chance that everything works as advertised, but really how often does that happen?
[00:22] <brkc> cagrijost, normal install, just let it resize your Windows partition.
[00:23] <cagrijost> is it easy to remove if i dont like it anyway?
[00:24] <brkc> Hmm, no, but you can use it before installing.
[00:24] <dpurgert> cagrijost, yes ... although that depends on how good you are with computers ... if you're just gonna "test" it, you can run off the CD, although you'll notice some lesser performance than if it was installed.
[00:24] <Bray90820> brck you around?
[00:25] <Bray90820> apparently you are
[00:25] <brkc> cagrijost, you can remove it, but it's a pain, especially for a beginner.
[00:26] <brkc> cagrijost, you can install it in VirtualBox to try it as well.
[00:26] <cagrijost> okay, ill try. ill log back in here with ubuntu, thanks for the help!
[00:26] <Bray90820> brck you told me 'firefox -P "myprofile"' to start firefox with a chosen profile
[00:26] <brkc> Yes?
[00:26] <Bray90820> is there a way to have it switch the profiles and not actually open up firefox
[00:27] <Bray90820> just to have it there for next time you open
[00:28] <brkc> Bray90820, what do you mean?
[00:28] <somsip> Bray90820: you want a command line that wil set the default profile for each time Firefox starts?
[00:29] <heedly> Hello.
[00:29] <Bray90820> no
[00:29] <Bray90820> i just want it to switch the profile without opening firefox
[00:29] <heedly> Is there away to show all windows during and Alt+Tab.
[00:29] <heedly> I don't like waiting for the window group to expand
[00:29] <brkc> You could do that in the bash script.
[00:30] <Bray90820> brck yes ;) but what would the command be
[00:30] <jch2os> ok I think I got it...had to boot into the older kernel, remove the newer kernels and then I could get apt fixed
[00:30] <brkc> What you could do is set an environment variable to the profile name.
[00:31] <brkc> export firefox_profile="myprofile"
[00:31] <brkc> Then, use "$firefox_profile" instead of "myprofile".
[00:31] <Bray90820> brck i apologize i am just learning bash and i don't really know what you mean
[00:32] <Bray90820> so i just put $ infront of it
[00:32] <dr_willis> foo=100
[00:32] <dr_willis> echo $foo
[00:32] <Bray90820> so i use "$firefox_profile" in the bash script
[00:32] <brkc> Sorry, you set a variable named firefox_profile to the profile name you want.
[00:32] <brkc> environment variable*
[00:32] <Bray90820> so is this correct
[00:33] <brkc> That's what the export line does that I did before.
[00:33] <brkc> typed before*
[00:33] <Bray90820> $firefox_myprofile
[00:33] <brkc> Okay, now you need to set this variable somewhere in your script.
[00:33] <Bray90820> let me try something hang on
[00:34] <brkc> Your script can take arguments, correct?
[00:35] <LS\MFT> What's better: Ubuntu Gnome Remix or installing Gnome Shell on normal Ubuntu?
[00:38] <PatrickDickey> Here's a pastebin for what I'm seeing when I try to upgrade. http://paste.ubuntu.com/5575053/
[00:38] <Bray90820> brck this is what my script looks like right now
[00:38] <Bray90820> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=a7fUKZLs
[00:39] <Bray90820> those 2 commands are just for example tho
[00:39] <brkc> LS\MFT, try them both. Personally, I've never tried Remix, but I've installed Gnome Shell on Ubuntu and it works perfectly fine.
[00:41] <brkc> Okay, Bray90820. Say your script's name is "switch-firefox-profile".
[00:41] <Akiva-Mobile> so pressing alt gives a command interface. Unfortunately, without the terminal, I can't do sudo commands when I press alt. Is there a lens I can configure this with? I would love it if I could just press alt + ctrl-v [sudo add-apt-repository ppa:irie/blender] > Enter password
[00:42] <brkc> You can run this script with words after it. These are called arguments.
[00:42] <crazyhorse> Hi, I'm looking for suggestions for an IRC client for ubuntu as well as a Git GUI
[00:42] <Bray90820> so i would have ti change the name of the script?
[00:42] <brkc> You don't have to, no. It can stay the same.
[00:42] <PatrickDickey> Akiva-Mobile: Alt+F2 maybe? You should be able to run sudo commands in there. And what do you mean by "without the terminal"?
[00:43] <crazyhorse> http://askubuntu.com/questions/8015/what-irc-clients-are-available << there's a big list here.. but i'd prefer to get recommendation from someone that uses IRC all day long
[00:43] <Bray90820> sorry if i am completely confused
[00:43] <Akiva-Mobile> PatrickDickey: Ah, don't like to stretch my hands like that. by terminal, I just meant that the dialogue that follows after you do a command input
[00:43] <dsprc> PatrickDickey: i believe they mean the 'run' dialog.
[00:44] <pppZero> crazyhorse, xchat if you want a gui, irssi if you use a shell
[00:44] <Akiva-Mobile> and alt f2 does not work PatrickDickey
[00:44] <PatrickDickey> crazyhorse you could try git-gui for the GUI. As for irc, I use Quassel, others seem to like XChat. It's a matter of preference.
[00:44] <Akiva-Mobile> it still won't prompt me for the password to use sudo
[00:44] <vick> how do I do a ssh tunnel, can someone help me?
[00:44] <crazyhorse> PatrickDickey: nice, ok.. i'll try them both
[00:44] <crazyhorse> pppZero: yeah i prefer gui
[00:44] <Akiva-Mobile> vick: just do a barrel roll
[00:45] <dsprc> Akiva-Mobile: use 'gksudo yourcommandhere'
[00:45] <Bray90820> brkc i put the argument where?
[00:45] <brkc> Basically, you can type 'my-script profile1' and use "$*" to get all the words you typed after the script name.
[00:45] <Akiva-Mobile> gksudo? mmm I will try
[00:46] <Akiva-Mobile> dsprc: nope, does not work
[00:46] <pppZero> vick: what sort of ssh tunnel?
[00:46] <vick> pppZero: I want to remotely connect to a computer and tunnel it through my browser
[00:46] <brkc> Bray90820, by the way, here's an excellent guide to bash if you're interested. It's probably easier than me explaining the intricacies of bash: http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/
[00:47] <vick> basically I want to load a site that's behind ssh in my browser..I have the host name and the port.. also have my public key registered with the remote server.
[00:47] <valerie_> is there a setting in inkscape that would allow me to open svg files that are not on my local computer but on a shared network?
[00:47] <Bray90820> brkc thank you
[00:47] <PatrickDickey> Akiva-Mobile: So, if I'm understanding you right, you want to be able to enter the command in something like ALT or ALT+F2, and have it execute without showing you anything?
[00:47] <Bray90820> but the argument is "$firefox_profile" right?
[00:48] <Akiva-Mobile> PatrickDickey:  looking for something like this http://askubuntu.com/questions/259234/where-do-i-find-a-terminal-lens-for-unity
[00:48] <Akiva-Mobile> that when I press alt, that comes up
[00:48]  * Akiva-Mobile reads on...
[00:49] <selena2013> i love ubuntu 12 . 10
[00:49] <brkc> Bray90820, the complete text you type after a script name is in "$*".
[00:49] <Akiva-Mobile> gah, the dev says that something like that does not exist. This would be amazing if it did :(
[00:49] <pppZero> vick: ssh user@example.org -L <local_port>:<remote_machine>:<remote_port> - then once you're connected, browse to http://127.0.0.1:<local_port> and you'll get whatever is at <remote_machine>:<remote_port>
[00:50] <brkc> In your script, you can 'export firefox_profile="$*"' to set a "global" variable in your terminal session.
[00:50] <Bray90820> brkc i will just have a look at the tutorial you sent me
[00:50] <pppZero> vick: also http://www.debianadmin.com/howto-use-ssh-local-and-remote-port-forwarding.html has way more info than you're likely to need :)
[00:51] <valerie_> I have a problem opening svg files with inkscape if the files from shared local area network
[00:51] <neon__> I started the machine with a ubuntu install disk, but it doesn't let me choose the partition or anything, it seem to straight up start installing
[00:52] <escott> neon__, no
[00:52] <PatrickDickey> Akiva-Mobile: You might want to point that link out, and include jono in it, since he's the one they suggested talking to.
[00:52] <vick> pppZero: example.org should be the remote I am conecting too right?
[00:52] <vick> what about <remote_machine> then?
[00:53] <pppZero> example.org is the machine you ssh into, then remote_machine is the actual other end of the tunnel
[00:53] <neon__> escott, what no?
[00:53] <Akiva-Mobile> jono  <<< It would be amazing if alt / alt f2 in unity would be replaced by something like this : http://askubuntu.com/questions/259234/where-do-i-find-a-terminal-lens-for-unity
[00:53] <escott> neon__, no it won't "just start installing" without asking about partitioning
[00:54] <dsprc> Akiva-Mobile: you can use things like 'tilda', 'yakuake' etc. they are drop down (or pop-up) terminals that stay hidden until you hit some hotkeys
[00:54] <PatrickDickey> neon__: What exactly do you see on the screen right now? It should have asked you if you want to update while installing, and then ask you if you want to partition.
[00:54] <Akiva-Mobile> dsprc: Not integrated into unity though, right?
[00:54] <escott> neon__, so you either misunderstood some question it asked earlier about the partitioning or don't know what it is doing right now
[00:55] <neon__> then I think maybe vmware does some wierd install magic
[00:55] <Akiva-Mobile> I mean, I could hotkey the terminal to be in a widgit layer too but its not ideal
[00:55] <PatrickDickey> neon__: I could be wrong about this, but VMWare has the ability to auto-install certain operating systems. Or it used to at least.
[00:56] <PatrickDickey> neon__: But you should have still set up the virtual hard drive in advance, along with other settings. So, it will only use what you gave it.
[00:56] <brkc> Bray90820, here's your switch-profile script (http://pastebin.com/AyzXqHke) and here's your start-firefox script (http://pastebin.com/DVWCf73p). That's what I was thinking/talking about.
[00:57] <dsprc> Akiva-Mobile: indeed. agree it would be neat though. file a feature request bug or if you have a patch, submit it ;)
[00:57] <Bray90820> it's ok if i combine then right
[00:57] <brkc> Bray90820, no. They must be separate files.
[00:57] <Akiva-Mobile> dsprc: I am on Brainstorm right now, I'll send you the link once posted so you can vote it up :P
[00:58] <Bray90820> :( i was going to execute the script with a keyboard command
[00:59] <jstrake> Newbie using 12.04lts on lenovo thinkpad t61. Core2duo@2.2ghz.3.9GiB RAM. Ubuntu is warning me that I only have a few Mb of diskspace left. But a scan shows over a Gb. Help please!
[00:59] <Bray90820> wait the start firefox script just opens firefox?
[00:59] <one> Where is the inittab?
[00:59] <brkc> Bray90820, yes.
[00:59] <escott> jstrake, 5% is reserved for root
[00:59] <Bray90820> ahh
[00:59] <Bray90820> i dont even need that
[00:59] <Bray90820> i just need to switch the profiles
[00:59] <Bray90820> so i'm all good
[01:00] <jstrake> escott, which won't show up on the scan? Is there a command that will show me a more accurate reading?
[01:00] <brkc> Bray90820, you have to restart firefox to switch profiles.
[01:00] <Bray90820> yes
[01:00] <Bray90820> i know that
[01:00] <Bray90820> i caqn do that
[01:00] <Bray90820> brck but thank you for the help i never expected you to actually create the script for me
[01:02] <brkc> Bray90820, for what I was thinking, you have to use the scripts together. Really, it sounds like you want what was suggested before, to change the default Firefox profile.
[01:02] <dr_willis> !inittab
[01:02] <dsprc> one: no sysv init. all is in /etc/init now
[01:02] <Bray90820> no not default
[01:02] <Bray90820> i want to switch between 2 of them with 2 sepret keybored shortcuts
[01:02] <jstrake> Disk Usage Analyzer shows home as eating 9.1GB. But when I go in a level, several GB are unaccounted for.
[01:03] <one> dsprc: used wrkrnd thnks for info
[01:03] <brkc> Okay, Bray90820, but you realize you can only use one of them at a time?
[01:03] <Bray90820> yes
[01:03] <Bray90820> i am aware of that
[01:03] <Bray90820> that's all i will need
[01:03] <jstrake> quit
[01:03] <Bray90820> i am creating the scripts to switch between laptop and tablet mode
[01:03] <bravis> whats the big difference between Xubuntu and ubuntu ?
[01:04] <Bray90820> i have a convertible netbook/tablet
[01:04] <recon_lap> bravis: xfce
[01:04] <dsprc> one: can do symlinks for all the sysv, bsd init stuff.
[01:05] <Bray90820> i just have one more question not about firefox
[01:05] <brkc> Bray90820, why don't you just use two different keyboard shortcuts for different profiles? It would make things simpler.
[01:05] <Bray90820> brck that's what i want to do
[01:06] <bravis> hmm
[01:06] <Bray90820> one profile is table and another is laptop
[01:06] <brkc> Bray90820, okay, well forget my scripts then.
[01:06] <brkc> You just need firefox -P.
[01:07] <cagrijost> have anyone here installed ubuntu on a win8 pc?
[01:07] <Bray90820> what i want to do is set 1 script to start tablet profile when i hit F6 and another script to start desktop profile when i hit Control+F6
[01:07] <selena2013> xubuntu uses xfce , ubuntu uses unity
[01:09] <Bray90820> what would be the best if i could sei then to XF86LAUNCH# and XF86LAUNCH2
[01:10] <Bray90820> because that's what actually happens when i rotate my screen
[01:12] <brkc> Bray90820, you know how to set shortcuts?
[01:12] <Bray90820> i do know how to set keyboard shortcuts yes
[01:12] <cagrijost> anyone?
[01:13] <brkc> Well, set those keys to the specific firefox -P command.
[01:13] <holstein> cagrijost: yes, i have
[01:13] <pppZero> cagrijost if it runs win8, it'll run ubuntu ... i've installed ubuntu instead of win8 if that helps?
[01:13] <cagrijost> holstein: did your installer see your windows partition?
[01:13] <brkc> Bray90820, I'm not sure where to begin with your XF86LAUNCH problem though.
[01:14] <Bray90820> brck i can figure that out myself
[01:14] <holstein> cagrijost: yes.. i installed it, and it worked... i wiped windows on a few, and shrank the windows partition on others
[01:14] <Bray90820> im just not a bash coder :p
[01:14] <remon__> Hi, i was wondering if it be possibleto stream my desktop through a virtual webcam like mycam tool does?
[01:14] <cagrijost> holstein: are you dual booting then?
[01:14] <holstein> cagrijost: you can always just install linux first, and see if its "friendlier" for you to install windows next
[01:15] <brkc> Bray90820, you should be thankful you aren't.
[01:15] <holstein> cagrijost: im not, but the machines i installed on are dualboot
[01:15] <Bray90820> why is that
[01:16] <cagrijost> holstein: can you help me through the installer?
[01:16] <remon__> I want to output my desktop to a virtual webcam
[01:16] <holstein> cagrijost: i can try, but im running out for a bit. if you are not seeing hard drives, i would test the hard drives
[01:16] <recon_lap> holstein: since when has windows been friendly to a dual boot?
[01:16] <holstein> cagrijost: whasts the issue?
[01:17] <cagrijost> holstein: the "install besides windows 8" option is not there. it doesnt recognize the win8 OS
[01:17] <holstein> recon_lap: im not sure.. i just install it alongside.. seems to work when i test it
[01:17] <brkc> Bray90820, it's probably the most confusing "programming language" out there.
[01:17] <holstein> cagrijost: the OS? or the drive?
[01:17] <cagrijost> os
[01:17] <selena2013> install boot-repair in live
[01:17] <Bray90820> i mean i do know a few small basics
[01:17] <holstein> cagrijost: go into windows and make a partition you know about, and select that to be replaced
[01:17] <Bray90820> but im no master
[01:18] <Bray90820> anything case sesative is confusing
[01:18] <escott> cagrijost, win8 oem?
[01:18] <dr_willis> remon__: at one  time   'webcamstudio' could do that.. no idea if the app is still being developed
[01:19] <remon__> @dr_wilis: ty i will check it out
[01:19] <holstein> cagrijost: use a gparted live CD to create partitions, and see if it "sees" your windows 8 install
[01:19] <holstein> cagrijost: install linux, then windows8 and recover grub afterwards
[01:19] <Bray90820> anyways what should i do about my bash script right now
[01:20] <holstein> cagrijost: use http://www.partition-tool.com/easeus-partition-manager/linux-partition-manager.htm or something like it to create your ext and swap partitions in windows for the linux install
[01:20] <SierraAR> Anybody know what exactly this process highlighted in blue is, and why it's eating up my CPU whenever i boot?
[01:20] <SierraAR> http://sierrabrown.toxic-productions.com/ss/Screenshot%20from%202013-02-28%2017:14:14.png
[01:20] <brkc> Bray90820, what do you mean? There's no need for a bash script. Just set your shortcuts' commands to firefox -P "specific-profile"
[01:21] <Bray90820> brck i was also going to have other non firefox related comands in the script
[01:21] <Bray90820> such as starting the onscreen keyboard
[01:22] <PatrickDickey> SierraAR: it's a python script that runs apt-get check (or apt-get update).
[01:22] <brkc> Ah, Bray90820, then create two different scripts.
[01:23] <brkc> Then have the firefox line be: firefox -P "$*"
[01:23] <remon__> @dr_willis. Thank you. It is still beein=g maintained. Very much what i was looking for
[01:23] <SierraAR> PatrickDickey: Is it necessary to run when I boot? Running the update manager or apt-get update doesn't eat up my CPU like this.
[01:23] <PatrickDickey> SierraAR: You can kill it, and it will run again when it needs to.
[01:23] <brkc> Bray90820, wait, sorry. Scratch that last part.
[01:23] <Bray90820> yes i plan on that
[01:23] <Bray90820> ok
[01:23] <brkc> You can just use their real profile names.
[01:24] <Bray90820> brck what is the comand?
[01:24] <brkc> Then, just set the keyboard shortcuts to your scripts' names.
[01:24] <Bray90820> sorry for not understanding
[01:24] <brkc> Bray90820, what do you mean?
[01:24] <brkc> Command for what?
[01:25] <neon__> yes, it was my VMware
[01:25] <Bray90820> changing the profiles for ubuntu
[01:25] <neon__> does ubuntu automaticly output to HDMI when it is connected with hdmi?
[01:25] <brkc> Whatever your profile's name is, is what you use. For example, you might have a "Tablet" profile. Then, you would launch Firefox using: firefox -P "Tablet"
[01:26] <Bray90820> yes
[01:26] <Bray90820> but i don't want to launch firefox
[01:26] <Bray90820> just change the profile
[01:26] <PatrickDickey> neon__: yes on a physical connection. As for in VMWare, it uses whatever display your host operating system is using.
[01:26] <SierraAR> So. PatrickDickey. The process won't die.
[01:26] <SierraAR> And my CPU's starting to overheat
[01:27] <Bray90820> brck do you understand what i want
[01:27] <PatrickDickey> SierraAR:  sudo kill -9 2251 might do it
[01:27] <neon__> PatrickDickey, I want to move the hard drive to a laptop with a broken screen, and an HDMI output. I won't be able to  see anything if it wont output to hdmi , and on boot that laptop don't output to hdmi
[01:28] <brkc> Bray90820, I do. It's a bit complicated. You would also have to change how you start Firefox.
[01:28]  * SaMOOrai is a cow with a sword.. MooYAH!
[01:28] <SierraAR> PatrickDickey: That got it, thanks. Any idea why the kil function in htop wasnt working?
[01:28] <Bray90820> brck do you think it's worth it
[01:28] <SierraAR> And what does the -9 do?
[01:28] <neon__> PatrickDickey, maybe I need to install some drivers/firmwares for the laptop?
[01:28] <Bray90820> to actually get it working
[01:28] <neon__> PatrickDickey, (before moving the HD?)
[01:29] <PatrickDickey> SierraAR: it was probably in an uninterruptible state, and -9 is Signal 9, which essentially says "I said KILL IT!"
[01:29] <SierraAR> Ah
[01:29] <dr_willis> -9 = kill with extreme prejudice
[01:30] <neon__> I think this laptop use GMA
[01:30] <PatrickDickey> neon__: I'm not sure on that. You'll need the drivers for the laptop's graphics card installed on the hard drive. If it's the same as what you're currently using (the driver files at least), it might detect the hdmi right away.
[01:32]  * PatrickDickey likes dr_willis explanation for -9 better than mine. :)
[01:34] <SierraAR> Is it safe to assume that the excessive CPU usage would explain why the battery wasn't charging?
[01:34] <dr_willis> SierraAR:  that would seem a little odd.
[01:34] <escott> SierraAR, no
[01:34] <PatrickDickey> SierraAR: Possibly. If the charger doesn't provide enough power to both charge the battery and run the computer. But it's unlikely.
[01:35] <dr_willis> that would be a very underpowered charger
[01:35] <neon__> OK, I don't get this gui for ubuntu. Does it have normal gnome?
[01:35] <Bray90820> brkc do you think i should try to get it working or should i should just turn it off every time
[01:36] <Bray90820> neon__: do you mean like it was in 8.04
[01:36] <SierraAR> I'll see if it charges now that it's not trying to melt itself XD
[01:36] <brkc> Bray90820, I don't think it's worth it to have just one firefox shortcut that switches between profiles.
[01:37] <neon__> Bray90820, it is the first time I see a ubuntu running. I am used to old gnome. I can't find here even how to fire up an xterm
[01:37] <brkc> Creating one for each profile would be easiest.
[01:37] <Bray90820> brck alright
[01:38] <dr_willis> !manual | neon__
[01:38] <selena2013> this is unity desktop , try installing gnome classic
[01:38] <dr_willis> neon__:  tap the super key, type 'terminam'
[01:38] <dr_willis> oope terminal
[01:38] <neon__> ok
[01:38] <SierraAR> Yep it's charging now
[01:38] <Bray90820> neon__: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/03/gnome-classic-in-ubuntu-12-04-its-like-nothing-ever-changed
[01:38] <neon__> isn't there a floder like start menu?
[01:38] <Bray90820> try that
[01:38] <dr_willis> they really  need to make up some first time run wizard tutorial overlay - like i see on so many  android phone apps
[01:39] <dr_willis> neon__:  top left  Ubuntu icon - the dash - your starting point for most things
[01:39] <selena2013> yea start menu is the '' dash ''
[01:39] <selena2013> dash  is the start menu
[01:39] <capella> On Ubuntu 12.04, my gnome-search-tool's |open containing folder| context item opens search result list items in their applications (not containing folder) , and double clicking search result list items opens un-predictable file associations ... can someone point me to how to configure gnome-search-tools behaviour? I've googled and come up empty ... this silly thing used to work
[01:39] <dr_willis> neon__:  tap super key - brings up dash.. hold super - shows shortcuts..
[01:39] <dr_willis> neon__:  a quick read of the manual will help greatly
[01:41] <neon__> what is super key?
[01:41] <selena2013> the windows key
[01:41] <dr_willis> tap the alt key = brings up the HUD. which is sort of an app-menu-searh thing.  - check youtube videos for  how  it works, :) is the easiest way to learn it.
[01:41] <dr_willis> My Windows Key has a TUX logo on it. ;P
[01:42] <selena2013> cool
[01:42] <ahoneybun> dr_willis, lucky!
[01:42] <selena2013> most come with windows key
[01:42] <dr_willis> some Linux Sticker pack - i got from cheapbytes.com or somthing. ;)
[01:43] <dr_willis> Seen little superman logos also for them
[01:44] <dr_willis> nice of MS to take over so many  keys. ;) ubuntu is taking them back!
[01:44] <neon__> holding it doesn't do anything
[01:44] <dr_willis> neon__:  you  are using the default Unity  Desktop on Ubuntu - pressing and holding super for a few seconds should bring up a Overlay window with shortcuts
[01:45] <dr_willis> if you are not using unity..  then it wont.
[01:46] <selena2013> and pressing control alt arrows , moves you to other desktop
[01:46] <neon__> I have this strip on the left side with stuff. This is not similar to the "application" menu of gnome/start menu of windows
[01:46] <selena2013> that is the launcher
[01:46] <dr_willis> neon__:  welcom to the 'unity' desktop.  You  may want to watch some unity  introduction videos at youtube or other  blog sites
[01:47] <dr_willis> it has a lot of non-obvious features
[01:47] <Akiva-Mobile> dsprc: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/30595/  <<  Guess it needs approval first
[01:47] <neon__> can I replace it with gnome instead?
[01:47] <dr_willis> neon__:  unity is using gnome3 - its a shell for gnome3.
[01:47] <PatrickDickey> manual neon__ This might be a good starting point
[01:47] <dr_willis> I would suggest you spend a week or 2 actually using unity.
[01:47] <neon__> can I make it fallback/classic?
[01:47] <PatrickDickey> !manual neon__ This might be a good starting point
[01:48] <selena2013> yes
[01:48] <selena2013> install gnome classic
[01:48] <dr_willis> I constantly see people in here annoyed that the fallback mode is not identical to gnome2.. since its not gnome2.. it just sort of looks like it.,
[01:48] <selena2013> people can you read my msjs >???
[01:48] <PatrickDickey> !manual | neon__ This might be a good starting point (Sorry about the two misfires earlier).
[01:49] <dr_willis> selena2013:  yes
[01:49] <phunyguy> how can I install Ubuntu and skip the GRUB portion?
[01:49] <dr_willis> phunyguy:  how are you going to boot it? theres a  installer part/pulldown menu thing that asks where to install it.. i recall you  can tell it not to.
[01:49] <phunyguy> I am fairly certain they took away the alternate installer images for 12.10 and up
[01:50] <dr_willis> No alt-cd for 12.10 -  correct
[01:50] <phunyguy> dr_willis: grub is already installed on the disk, I will just add the new install to it
[01:50] <dr_willis> phunyguy:  so some other OS is manageing grub then
[01:50] <phunyguy> dr_willis: ubuntu 12.04 is
[01:50] <phunyguy> I dont want both managing grub
[01:50] <phunyguy> that would get hairy...
[01:51] <phunyguy> I will check the installer for the option.  Thanks
[01:51] <dr_willis> problem may  be if you  update the kernel on 12.10 - im not sure how it will handle things.. you will have to go back to 12.04 rerun update-grub and it should scan.see the new kernels.. then add entries.. then reboot back to 12.10...
[01:51] <dr_willis> ive never done a dual boot of 2 ubuntus. ;)  at least not lately
[01:52] <phunyguy> dr_willis: I am OK with that.
[01:53] <ahoneybun> I know if I update my kernel to 3.5.0-25 on 12.10 my wireless drivers stop working
[01:54] <PatrickDickey> phunyguy: I think that if you choose the "Do something else" option at the partitioning, it gives you the option of where to install Grub. I don't know if you have the option to not install it at all though.
[01:54] <phunyguy> hmmm...
[01:54] <BareGraceMisery> Hello, I have a question about OpenOffice (I tried #openoffice but no-one was there).
[01:54] <phunyguy> well that's stinky
[01:55] <phunyguy> I will check though.  worst comes to worse, I can let all 3 manage grub.
[01:55] <phunyguy> not a deal breaker.
[01:55] <bazhang> BareGraceMisery, its #openoffice.org
[01:55] <PatrickDickey> phunyguy: More than likely, 12.10 will manage it for everyone. Unless you have a LVM set up. In which case it might get hairy.
[01:55] <BareGraceMisery> So, is anyone here familiar with Openoffice spreadsheet, and how one would create a "data plot" with it, which I think is the equivalent of… thank you bazhang
[01:56] <phunyguy> PatrickDickey: what do you mean it will manage it for everyone?
[01:56] <phunyguy> it will be the only one to make changes?
[01:57] <PatrickDickey> It will install it's version of GRUB over the bootloader. So, it will handle GRUB for everyone. Which means if you upgrade a kernel in one of the others, you'll probably have to go to 12.10 and run update-grub.
[01:57] <phunyguy> oh.
[01:57] <phunyguy> I knew that
[01:57] <PatrickDickey> phunyguy: I'm guessing here, as I haven't successfully tried to run two different grubs on one drive.
[01:57] <phunyguy> well either way, all the OSs will be listed
[01:58] <phunyguy> so I guess it's not all that bad.
[01:58] <phunyguy> brb
[01:58] <PatrickDickey> phunyguy: You could also try chainloading. If you have the option, install GRUB to the partition you're putting 12.10 on instead of the main drive itself (/dev/sda1 instead of /dev/sda for example). And then run your update grub on 12.04 and chain load them.
[01:58] <Bray90820> is killall a force close
[01:59] <remon__> Hi, when sudo + (for example apt-get update), while been in a chatroom java applet. Does that make me extra vulnrable?
[01:59] <grahamsavage> skype installs a disturbing large amount of crap for a chat client
[02:00] <dr_willis> skype is just disturbing...
[02:01] <dr_willis> remon__:  i dont see how.
[02:02] <selena2013> skype used to be good now is new
[02:02] <dr_willis> skype got bought by MS.. so thats common for things that get bought/then destroyed by  ms..
[02:03] <dr_willis> I tend to use the google voice chat stuff - when i rarely need voip things
[02:05] <grahamsavage> google chat works a lot better
[02:05] <grahamsavage> skypes quality seems a bit crap
[02:05] <dr_willis> theres an amazeing # of alternatives if you want to look into them :)
[02:06] <dr_willis> i saw a cellphone the other day that  defaulted to some VOIP feature if you had wifi with it connected.. or used the normal cellphone network if not.
[02:11] <remon__> Maybe a bit off topic. Does somebody here have experience running eve-online client on ubuntu?
[02:12] <lnx-e_> hi every one is any one help me
[02:13] <lnx-e_> i need help about my unity
[02:14] <Nekosan> how to add kvirc to startup applications?
[02:15] <dr_willis> lnx-e_:  give us more details ;)
[02:16] <dr_willis> Nekosan:  theres a .cofig/autostart  or autorun directory you can start stuff from
[02:16] <dr_willis> oops .config/autostart or .config/autorun
[02:17] <Nekosan> dr_willis: where do i look for this?
[02:17] <dr_willis> Nekosan:  its in your home diredtory like most all the other .files and .dirs
[02:17] <dr_willis>  /home/username/.config
[02:17] <Nekosan> dr_willis: thanks for the direction
[02:18] <dr_willis> kde, unity, gnome, and lxde and i imagine xfce all use that directory.
[02:18] <dr_willis> or at least i  thinkthey all do. :) there maybe other wm's that also use it
[02:19] <Nekosan> dr_willis: drop a shortcut in that dir?
[02:19] <neon__> I installed ubuntu on a physical disk in vmware, now I try to boot that disk in a laptop, and it doesn't load
[02:19] <dr_willis> a link, a  .desktop file. or a script. or even an actual executable...
[02:19] <neon__> anyone know what I should do in order to transfer the disk between machines?
[02:20] <dr_willis> neon__:  ive seen guides on converting Virtualdisk images onto a real physical disk and visa versa..  but never done so..
[02:20] <dr_willis> also  seen MANY warnings to  not use vbox (and  i  assume vmware) to access a real  physical disk.  - it can cause curruption of data
[02:21] <neon__> dr_willis, it is already on physical disk, I made vmware use the physical disk as is
[02:21] <dr_willis> and now it no longer boots normally?
[02:21] <dr_willis> or vmware just dosent boot it
[02:23] <neon__> I took the disk back to vmware, and there it boot fine. On the laptop, it started grub ok, but then didn't do anything, I tried again with recovery mode, and then it didn't even get to the grub on the next boot, but on the VMware it was oK.
[02:23] <vipzrx> hello
[02:23] <lnx-e_> hi every one are there any person to help me about unity
[02:23] <vipzrx> lnx-e_: hello
[02:23] <dr_willis> lnx-e_:  give us more details ;)...
[02:24] <dr_willis> !ask
[02:24] <vipzrx> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[02:24] <dr_willis> neon__:  you may wan tto check the vmware channels and forums. I dont know what vmware may have done to the thing
[02:24] <lnx-e_> hi
[02:24] <holstein> vipzrx: you probably just have another package manager open. close one and try again
[02:25] <lnx-e_> my unity is gone after update
[02:25] <neon__> dr_willis, you think normally ubuntu disk can be moved from one PC to an other without problem?
[02:25] <lnx-e_> no dash no menu but natilus is workin and i can do ctrl alt T for terminal
[02:25] <vipzrx> holstein: thx,i will try
[02:25] <holstein> vipzrx: http://askubuntu.com/questions/195950/package-system-broken-e-sub-process-usr-bin-dpkg-returned-an-error-code-1 if not
[02:25] <dr_willis> neon__:  ive moved them from one pc to another.. some videodrivers can cause issues.. is about the only problem ive see
[02:26] <lnx-e_> is there any bug or smthng about compiz unity
[02:26] <vipzrx> holstein: i have just only one running
[02:26] <vipzrx> !! Byte-compilation for emacs-snapshot failed!
[02:26] <vipzrx> !! This indicates a bug in one of the add-on packages
[02:26] <vipzrx> !! installed on your system, or a bug in Emacs itself.
[02:26] <vipzrx> !! Please file a bug report against emacs-snapshot
[02:26] <vipzrx> !! and attach the file /tmp/emacs-snapshot.BZu2g9
[02:26] <vipzrx> dpkg: error processing emacs-snapshot (--configure):
[02:26] <vipzrx>  subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[02:26] <FloodBot1> vipzrx: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:26] <vipzrx> FloodBot1: sorry !
[02:27] <apwbdjp> vipzrx, Careful with the pastes!
[02:27] <apwbdjp> !paste | vipzrx
[02:27] <PatrickDickey> vipzrx: along with the advice about the pasting, you might want to run sudo dpkg --configure -a and paste the output of that. It should tell you what's missing.
[02:28] <vipzrx> PatrickDickey: ok
[02:29] <PatrickDickey> lnx-e_: which video card do you have? It sounds like something with your graphics drivers is broken. Also which version of Ubuntu (12.04, 12.10, etc) are you on?
[02:31] <vipzrx> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5575224/ $ sudo dpkg --configure -a
[02:33] <ahoneybun> where do I report bugs in the kernel relating to Ubuntu 12.10
[02:33] <Disk1of5> hey all, using ubuntu 12.10 and gaming on steam.. i have a multi monitor setup and use twinview.. is there a better solution then twinview i heard it was a quick fix by nvidia and newer drivers use RandR but i can't find any info on how to use randr ?
[02:33] <bazhang> !xrandr | Disk1of5
[02:34] <bazhang> Disk1of5, arandr is the front end if you need a gui
[02:34] <PatrickDickey> I'll be back in tomorrow. Hopefully my kernel will decide to upgrade between now and then.
[02:35] <Disk1of5> bazhang: perfect thanks! :)
[02:35] <vipzrx> holstein:  ?
[02:37] <Disk1of5> bazhang: so im looking at this.. and all is good but does this mean i set my nvidia settings back to seperate X windows?
[02:38] <dr_willis> i found twinview better then the xrandr stuff here.
[02:38] <Disk1of5> bazhang: only thing is that when i do that i get a white screen on one.. its like unity window manager doesn't recognize the other display
[02:38] <dr_willis> i use the nvudia settings tool. not xrandr
[02:38] <vipzrx> PatrickDickey: any suggestion ?
[02:39] <Disk1of5> dr_willis: twinview is nice but it messes with most games.. thinking that my desktop is the width of dual monitors
[02:39] <vipzrx> PatrickDickey: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5575224/ $ sudo dpkg --configure -a
[02:39] <SonOfGod> hi
[02:39] <SonOfGod> anyone can help me please  ?
[02:39] <dr_willis> Disk1of5: sounds like a badly written app. ive not noticed that issue here with the few games i play
[02:40] <dr_willis> !ask
[02:41] <Disk1of5> dr_willis: i don't necessarily think its the apps fault if you look at dual screen implementation in linux its pretty flimsy with the implementation done differently by each vendor.
[02:41] <SonOfGod> try to install ubuntu-restricted-extras and it stoped in a gray window ttf-mscorefonts-installer and don't do anything more :|
[02:42] <bazhang> SonOfGod, tab to ok then hit enter
[02:42] <SonOfGod> bazhang  thanks
[02:42] <OerHeks> bazhang +1  hidden confirmation window
[02:44] <dr_willis> Disk1of5: twinview is xinerama with some extensions.. ive only had issues with it in very few apps over the years.  what app are you having issues with.  i dont think the xrandr tools work well with the nvudia drivers. used to be xrandr did not work at all with nvudia
[02:45] <holstein> vipzrx: i would remove those 2 packages... i would want to run "sudo apt-get update" and see no errors
[02:46] <vipzrx> holstein: ok
[02:46] <KI4RO> Anyone been able to get 12.10 to reboot on a Toshiba satellite?
[02:46] <holstein> KI4RO: should boot fine.. try it live
[02:47] <KI4RO> holstein, It runs fine but when I try to reboot/restart it goes to a black screen eventually and stays there...what do you mean try it Live?
[02:48] <dr_willis> !nomodeset
[02:49] <Bray90820> is there a way to close a program from the terminal
[02:49] <KI4RO> dr_willis, You think?
[02:49] <KI4RO> dr_w
[02:49] <dr_willis> KI4RO: common issue
[02:49] <naegling> Bray90820: yes
[02:49] <KI4RO> dr_willis, I'll give it a go
[02:50] <dsprc> ahoneybun: use the 'reportbug' tool or go yell at them in #ubuntu-kernel
[02:50] <kirk601> i recently did a clean install of 12.10, updated to 13.04 and installed GDM and lightdm and i'm having some odd prolems with programs clsoing on their own. can someone help me troubleshoot?
[02:50] <Bray90820> i could use killall but that is a force close
[02:50] <dr_willis> kirk601:  #ubuntu+1for 13.04
[02:51] <Bray90820> naegling is there any way to do it without a force close
[02:52] <selena2013> use xkill shortcut keyboard
[02:52] <dsprc> ahoneybun: 'ubuntu-bug'...  not 'reportbug' :X
[02:52] <selena2013> go to settings , keyboard , add custom shortcut xkill , command xkill
[02:53] <selena2013> then with cursor on top of unresponsive window press the kyboard shortcut an x will appear on top of the window press left mouse
[02:53] <dsprc> ahoneybun: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/FAQ
[02:54] <kirk601> is there a gnome channel guys?
[02:54] <OerHeks> !alis
[02:54] <SunMoonStar> I have a directory with many text files and I want to change all instances of the string "de el" to "del" in all the text files.. is there a way to do it in the terminal?
[02:54] <holstein> kirk601: i just ran /join #gnome and it seems like the place to be
[02:55] <Bray90820> so anyone else know a terminal command to close applications
[02:55] <dr_willis> SunMoonStar:  sed can do it.
[02:55] <Bray90820> that isn't a force close
[02:56] <dr_willis> Bray90820:  i doubt if there is going to be a generic command that does that.
[02:56] <neon__> I installed gnome panel, but when I start an app, the window frame don't appear
[02:56] <OerHeks> Bray90820, that makes no sence, closing from terminal is a force.
[02:56] <Bray90820> oh well
[02:56] <dr_willis> neon__:  compiz is crashing, or your window manager is not running
[02:56] <dr_willis> !info devilspie
[02:56] <dr_willis> some of hte various xinput/macro/tweakers tools might get close Bray90820 .
[02:57] <selena2013> anybody knows how to get britness working
[02:57] <Bray90820> what i actually wanted was to close from  bash script
[02:57] <Bray90820> close firefox
[02:57] <OerHeks> pkill firefox
[02:57] <dr_willis> so you want to send an alt-f4 event to firefox.. (i think its alt-f4)
[02:57] <dr_willis> and have it close cleanly
[02:58] <dsprc> Bray90820: you can send a sigterm
[02:58]  * dr_willis wonders if firefox's command line options have a close/quiet option
[02:58] <SonOfGod> i have a notebook acer aspire 5732Z whith a ati radeon hd 4570 grafics card and i can't install the drivers allredy try lot of links to find the right drivers and no luck can anyone help me ?
[02:58] <dr_willis> quit ;)
[02:58] <vipzrx> why "don't use Enter as punctuation" ?
[02:58] <dr_willis> vipzrx:  it makes the channel and questions harder to read.
[02:58] <Bray90820> what's a sigterm
[02:59] <Bray90820> dsprc what's a sigterm
[02:59] <dr_willis> Bray90820:  you  have very little bash scripting experience (or am i rembering wrong)
[02:59] <dr_willis> sigterm = signal terminate
[02:59] <Bray90820> i have almost none
[02:59] <dsprc> Bray90820: tells a program to exit gracefully. as opposed to say.. a kill.
[02:59] <Bray90820> i watched a 2 minute video on bash
[02:59] <dr_willis> Bray90820:  time to check  out bash signals in the ABS guide.. I rarely use the feature
[03:00] <Bray90820> that's all the bash experience i have
[03:00] <dr_willis> Time to  spend an hr on reading up on bash i belive. :)
[03:00] <Bray90820> you know what i don't care anymore
[03:00] <dr_willis> Bray90820:  works for us.
[03:00] <Bray90820> i'll just do it graphically
[03:00]  * dr_willis closes the ticket
[03:00] <dsprc> :)
[03:01] <dr_willis> we are still sending you the bill. ;P
[03:01] <Bray90820> closing the program like that might not even be what i am looking for
[03:01] <dr_willis> i often see people going about things the totally wrong way. and they dont ask about what they are looking for.. but what they think may be a way...
[03:02] <Bray90820> what o wanted to do was change the firefox profile from a bash script without opening firefox
[03:02] <Bray90820> so i was going to have a command to open it change the profile and then close it
[03:02] <dr_willis> you mean change the default profile it uses?
[03:03] <holstein> Bray90820: why not just save shortcuts that open whatever profile you want?
[03:03] <dr_willis> then a link that links the firefox script to the  default profile you want. ;) then change  the link  as needed
[03:04] <dr_willis> i cant say ive ever needed to mess with firefox profiles.
[03:04] <somsip> Bray90820: it might help if you describe the end goal. You clearly want this to be controlled by a script, but to what end?
[03:05] <Bray90820> dr_willis i have a netbook/tablet hybrid i was going to have 2 scripts set to a keyboard shortcut 1 for my tablet profile and one for mt netbook profile
[03:05] <Grrrrrrrr> hello. Can I ask about an install issue here please?
[03:06] <somsip> Bray90820: weren't you told before to use the script to set an environmental variable to point to the profile you want to use, then create a Firefox link to use that ENV?
[03:06] <somsip> ...as the -P $FIREFOX_PROFILE
[03:06] <dr_willis> or use a soft link you change to run whatever profile/script you need
[03:06] <holstein> Bray90820: ^^ i agree with that.. you are doing it wrong to make script
[03:07] <Bray90820> well i could do "firefox -p tablet " but then it opens firefox
[03:07] <Bray90820> i wanted it to change the profile without opening firefox
[03:07] <dr_willis> Bray90820:  so why does it matter.. if you are opening firefox anyway
[03:07] <somsip> Bray90820: you've been given two solutions. What's the issue with them?
[03:07] <Bray90820> both of them open firefox
[03:08] <Bray90820> i don't want firefox to open
[03:08] <dr_willis> Bray90820:  setting the env variable. or soft links.. will NOT open firefox.
[03:08] <Bray90820> well then i appologize
[03:08] <sybariten> oh hai
[03:08] <Bray90820> i didn't know that
[03:08] <somsip> Bray90820: You symlink 'firefox' to 'firefox -P tablet' then the script toggles to reset the symlink to 'firefox -P desktop'
[03:08] <sybariten> anyone know any good clipboard managers for linux?
[03:08] <sybariten> ive aready tried clipit
[03:08] <dr_willis> sybariten:  theres several in the repos.
[03:09] <dr_willis> it depends on your needs and desktop.
[03:09] <sybariten> dr_willis: yes, i know.
[03:09] <Bray90820> actually if i enter "firefox -P tablet" in te terminal it opens firefox
[03:09] <sybariten> dr_willis: i need to dump a long clipboard history to file
[03:09] <holstein> Bray90820: you dont need to switch them.. unless its open.. if its closed, its not doing anything
[03:09] <sybariten> or autosave
[03:09] <Bray90820> what i want is for it to set a profile for next time i open it
[03:10] <somsip> Bray90820: then don't do that. symlink 'firefox' to a bash file that contains 'firefox -P tablet' and set the keyboard toggle script to switch between that script and another that contains 'firefox -P desktop'
[03:10] <somsip> ...to swicth the symlink...
[03:10] <Bray90820> but i am going to have more comands in the bash script
[03:10] <somsip> Bray90820: and?
[03:10] <Bray90820> like for teh onscreen keyboard and stuff
[03:10] <somsip> and?
[03:10] <Bray90820> i kinda would liek it all from 1 keyboard shortcut
[03:10] <holstein> Bray90820: the next time you open it, you open it with the shortcut you made to the profile you want to use
[03:11] <Bray90820> holstein you know that's not a bad idea
[03:11] <dr_willis> so the keyboard shortcut calls a 30 line script  instead of a 4 line script. ;)
[03:11] <somsip> Bray90820: and one of the lines in that 30 line script does the thing with the symlinks
[03:11] <Bray90820> what is a symlink
[03:11]  * dr_willis would just make 2 icons...
[03:12] <somsip> !symlink | Bray90820
[03:12] <dr_willis> Now is the time when we start suggesting reading some bash  basics..
[03:12] <dr_willis> ln -s   foo bar      makes bar a 'soft' link pointing back to foo
[03:12] <vipzrx> holstein: it does not work
[03:12] <somsip> Bray90820: that factoid is not helpful.
[03:12] <dr_willis> or am i backwards
[03:12] <vipzrx> holstein: dpkg: error processing ibus-el (--configure):
[03:12] <vipzrx>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[03:12] <Bray90820> somsip: what factoid
[03:13] <dsprc> Bray90820: they are sorta like "desktop shortcuts" but for files
[03:13] <somsip> Bray90820: the one ubottu showed you. Ignore it anyway
[03:13] <holstein> vipzrx: remove what is causing issues.. share the pastebin
[03:13] <dr_willis> I tend to  hit up the Delicious.com  site for bash  tutorial  links/tags.. tends to find some good sites
[03:13] <Bray90820> yea i know it's a bot
[03:13] <Bray90820> but dsprc thank you
[03:13] <vipzrx> holstein:  what should i do ?
[03:13] <dr_willis> the ABS guide is a bit overwhelming.. but definatly worth reading.
[03:13] <dsprc> Bray90820: no it was just the factoid the bot gave you was completely useless
[03:14] <holstein> vipzrx: pastebin your error messages
[03:14] <Bray90820> dsprc: ok
[03:15] <OerHeks> dr_willis, you have, https://delicious.com/dr_willis/bash
[03:15] <dr_willis> OerHeks:  yea. ive not  added anything recently - so there maybe better ones out.
[03:15] <Bray90820> i am just thinking if would be a better experience if i could combine them
[03:16] <vipzrx> holstein: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5575282/
[03:16] <dr_willis> Bray90820:  theres most likely 100+ ways todo  what you want. :) if you knew more about bash  and linux  fundamentals.
[03:16] <Bray90820> yea
[03:16] <Bray90820> but today is my fist day with bash so yea
[03:16] <holstein> vipzrx: sudo apt-get autoremove emacs-snapshot emacs-snapshot-gtk ibus-el
[03:16] <KI4RO> dr_willis, No luck with the reboot issue...added the nomodeset option the the grub config but still will not restart
[03:17] <holstein> vipzrx: then try sudo apt-get update
[03:17] <dr_willis> you  could add quicklists to the firefox icon in the unity panel. to launch firefox with either profile also....
[03:17] <dumont> does KVM come installed standard on Ubuntu, or is it easily installed from the software package manager?
[03:17] <Bray90820> dr_willis exsplane more about that
[03:17] <dr_willis> or make a single icon that pops up a dialog that asks what profile to use.. ;)
[03:17] <KI4RO> dr_willis, Wait a minute forgot something   be back
[03:17] <vacho> I would appreciate it someone could help me ssh tunnel to a host I have.
[03:18] <dr_willis> Bray90820:  right click icon in the unity launcher.. those are quicklists.. and can be customized
[03:18] <vipzrx> holstein: sudo apt-get update , then ?
[03:18] <dr_willis> quicklists are an overlooked feature of unity.. 13.04 adds some new  features to them
[03:18] <Bray90820> so basically the menu that pops up when i right click
[03:18] <holstein> vipzrx: thats *after* the other command... then you share errors
[03:19] <vipzrx> the other command ?
[03:19] <dr_willis> Google--chrome browser icon has quicklists items for  launching the browser in normal or incognito modew.
[03:19] <dr_willis> you could set  up the  FF icon in  a similer way
[03:20] <vipzrx> holstein: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5575293/
[03:21] <holstein> vipzrx: sudo apt-get autoremove emacs-snapshot emacs-snapshot-gtk ibus-el
[03:21] <vacho> can someone please help?
[03:21] <orp> when i resume my laptop from suspend, mouse/keyboard and rendering things on the screen is extremely laggy
[03:21] <dr_willis> maketecheasier.com/8-really-useful-ubuntu-unity-quicklists/2011/05/07     seems to  have  somthing like what we are refering to  Bray90820
[03:21] <orp> (pressing alt tab takes about 2-3 seconds of very low fps to swap the windows)
[03:21] <vacho> I am using: ssh -f username@xxx.xxx.net -L 22445:localhost:25 -N
[03:21] <holstein> vacho: ssh user@host
[03:22] <vipzrx> sudo apt-get autoremove emacs-snapshot emacs-snapshot-gtk ibus-el ,then sudo apt-get install emacs-snapshot emacs-snapshot-gtk ibus-el
[03:22] <holstein> !ssh
[03:22] <holstein> vipzrx: ? you run sudo apt-get autoremove emacs-snapshot emacs-snapshot-gtk ibus-el ...then sudo apt-get update.. then see that there are no errors.. then we talk about what you are trying to do that is breaking your system
[03:22] <dr_willis> some of the guides on quicklists may be out and a little out of date..   its an expanding feature with each new reelase
[03:23] <vipzrx> holstein:  ok
[03:23] <Bray90820> dr_willis that will work now if i can just get secondary click working on my touch screen then were all good
[03:25] <qcjn> hi, i'm trying to get some data back using vdfuse in ubuntu. i did it with a Mint.vdi file, but now i'm trying with a snapshot {numbers-seems-to-be-uuid}.vdi but it don't work . have any idea ?
[03:26] <vipzrx> holstein: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5575307/
[03:27] <vipzrx> holstein:  i am going to have lunch ! thank you for your help. i will be back in half an hour !
[03:29] <holstein> vipzrx: you need to check your sources.. you have issues there.. get those straight, and you shoud be good.. did you add manually some repos?
[03:29] <darkhelmet46> anybody know if there's a way to auto-start a VirtualBox VM in Seemless mode?
[03:30] <bazhang> darkhelmet46, try in #vbox
[03:30] <Bray90820> also is there a way to change the dpi
[03:30] <Bray90820> just to have the hole screen zoom in
[03:31] <boldfilter> Anyway to get touchpad gesture in ubuntu like windows 8?
[03:31] <darkhelmet46> thanks bazhang
[03:31] <boldfilter> Where you can switch windows with the touchpad and such
[03:32] <boldfilter> Id love to switch windows with the touchpad like in windows 8
[03:33] <holstein> boldfilter: assume we dont use windows8.. and assume since its open, anything is possible.. what do you want?
[03:33] <bazhang> boldfilter, have you asked in #ubuntu-touch ?
[03:33] <boldfilter> Switch windows with a side gesture on the touchpad
[03:33] <boldfilter> no on a laptop
[03:33] <boldfilter> not on a tablet
[03:34] <boldfilter> left side edge gesture
[03:36] <packetfrog> boldfilter http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/43097/how-to-get-macbook-style-finger-gestures-on-ubuntu-linux/
[03:36] <packetfrog> boldfilter https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Multitouch
[03:36] <boldfilter> oh snap
[03:36] <user__> hello
[03:37] <packetfrog> boldfilter http://www.synaptics.com/solutions/technology/touchpad-linux
[03:37] <user__> how to make ubuntu automatically boot with hdmi output only?
[03:37] <user__> (I am on laptop)
[03:37] <packetfrog> boldfilter: Those are all on the first page of google searching for "ubuntu touchpad gestures"    Tighten up buddy :)
[03:38] <boldfilter> I looked around
[03:38] <evilytwisted> anyone in here know anything about "recordmydesktop"?  im trying to get it to record the system audio.. like.. the games im playing and the sound coming from skype
[03:38] <packetfrog> I am not complaining. just saying :) your search would be faster if you searched something that responds immediately..
[03:39] <holstein> evilytwisted: i have used it
[03:39] <dr_willis> user__:  check the bios settings
[03:39] <evilytwisted> do you know how to get it to record both game sound.. Like minecraft  and skype voice at the same time
[03:39] <holstein> evilytwisted: i would use pavucontrol and try and route it.. i was using JACK back when i was using it
[03:39] <dr_willis> evilytwisted:  that seems to be a constant  question with that app.. ive managed to get it to record system sounds once or twice.. then never could repeate what i did  to do it
[03:40] <evilytwisted> i cant get jack to run..
[03:40] <evilytwisted> holstein:  im using pavucontrol.
[03:40] <holstein> !proaudio | evilytwisted but you should try pavucontrol first
[03:40] <dr_willis> evilytwisted:  and yes i was using jackd. and twiddled with pavucontrol..
[03:40] <evilytwisted> IM using  pavucontrol
[03:40] <evilytwisted> i cant get jackd to even work
[03:40] <dr_willis> had to use both of them i recall.. not looked into it lately
[03:41] <dr_willis> it was way way more hassles then it should have been
[03:41] <holstein> evilytwisted: that link ^^ shows how to setup JACK, but you should be aboe to route in pavucontrol
[03:41] <evilytwisted> ok ty
[03:41] <evilytwisted> pavucontrol from what ive seen only lets me record system audio
[03:41] <evilytwisted> and my voice..
[03:41] <selena2013> help help pleaseee
[03:41] <evilytwisted> not system audio and skype
[03:42] <dr_willis> the wkipe wiki page  had some info  on recording skype
[03:42] <dr_willis> !skype
[03:42] <selena2013> for audio in skype go to settings and choose default audio
[03:42] <selena2013> help help please
[03:42] <dr_willis> !ask
[03:42] <selena2013> please help me with brightness no working ubuntu 12.10
[03:42] <holstein> evilytwisted: when you have the outputs,, you should be able to route them in pavucontrol.. go ahead and open everything and get the apps running and look there for them to route
[03:43] <selena2013> resolution at max is making me blind
[03:43] <usr13> selena2013: Trun it down.
[03:43] <selena2013> the keys for brithness dont work
[03:43] <ahoneybun> anyone point me to where I report a Ubuntu kernel bug?
[03:43] <dr_willis> selena2013:  check for your exact make machine on askubuntu.com yet?  there maybe some bugs/known work arounds.
[03:43] <selena2013> ok
[03:43] <evilytwisted> holstein:  problem is jack wont connect... I use jackd and jack control
[03:43] <evilytwisted> But it wont connect to a server or something
[03:43] <evilytwisted> Ill get the errors
[03:44] <holstein> selena2013: sometimes, it can be as easy as installing hhe proprietary graphics driver, if you have one available
[03:44] <holstein> evilytwisted: i would try pavucontrol as i suggested above.. make sure everything is open and running
[03:44] <evilytwisted> I have everything opend
[03:44] <evilytwisted> everything is running,
[03:44] <evilytwisted> and im not trying to make you or ask you to repeat yourself
[03:44] <holstein> evilytwisted: then, you should see where and how to route, correct?
[03:44] <dr_willis> and recording? ;)
[03:44] <evilytwisted> heres the first ever i see
[03:44] <evilytwisted> http://pastebin.com/VY1tYyb4
[03:44] <evilytwisted> error *
[03:45] <evilytwisted> thats Just trying to run jack
[03:45] <holstein> evilytwisted: running JACK for this is overkill.. open a terminal and run "sudo adduser yourusername audio"
[03:45] <selena2013> hhe ???
[03:45] <evilytwisted> The user `evilytwisted' is already a member of `audio'.
[03:46] <Guest14660> 大家好，我用的xubuntu，打开软件中心的时候，闪一下，软件中心就自动退出了，请问应该怎么打开软件中心呢？
[03:46] <evilytwisted> I already have it as audio...
[03:46] <user__> how to set up default output to hdmi?
[03:46] <evilytwisted> and holstein  heres the other set of errors
[03:46] <evilytwisted> http://pastebin.com/VAiK1Ghm
[03:46] <dr_willis> user__:  on my desktop - it does defailt to hdmi first.. then dvi.. if both are plugged in.
[03:46] <holstein> evilytwisted: then, in the terminal... "ps aux | grep jack" see that jack is not running.. then run qjackctl or jack control and hit the setup button and let me know when you are ready
[03:47] <dr_willis> user__:  so its most likely a bios setting.. you  can use the drivers to  select what monitor is a primary  monitor.
[03:47] <darkhelmet46> Hey guys, I figured out how to make a command to run in startup using the GUI, but how do I get a command to run on shutdown?
[03:47] <Guest14660> 有人在吗
[03:47] <dr_willis> darkhelmet46:  a command to do what?
[03:47] <evilytwisted> holstein:  this says it is running http://pastebin.com/JCT4wevk
[03:48] <holstein> evilytwisted: see that it is *not* runnin.. kill it all
[03:48] <user__> dr_willis, my bios don't have that option, and the default is no hdmi output
[03:48] <evilytwisted> ok
[03:48] <evilytwisted> sorry
[03:48] <darkhelmet46> dr_willis, to save the state of a VirtualBox VM.  I know the command I need, I just want to have it run automatically on shutdown.
[03:48] <holstein> evilytwisted: for some reason, you have driver set to "null".. set that to "alsa".. then left side, untick "realtime" and see that nothing else it ticked
[03:48] <bloopletech> After the latest updates/reboot, I'm getting a black screen with cursor after graphical login; this is on 12.10
[03:48] <dr_willis> darkhelmet46:  im not sure id trust the auto-shutdown stuff to do that :) seems a very  imporntant thing to do..
[03:49] <evilytwisted> how do you kill jack when theres no programs to kill using the default click x button
[03:49] <holstein> evilytwisted: in the center... frames/period 1024,  samplerate 44100, periods/buffer 2
[03:49] <holstein> evilytwisted: i use kill pid.. sudo kill all jackd might get it.. or however you want to kill processes
[03:49] <darkhelmet46> dr_willis, I appreciate the concern, but I can take my chances, it's nothing mission-critical.
[03:49] <dr_willis> holstein:  You should write up a guide on askubuntu.com  for  this. ;) it seems to be  a faq for recordmydesktop
[03:49] <evilytwisted> and ty holstein  and dr_willis  for helping me.. sorry if im being a bit hard to help
[03:49] <bloopletech> I'm running official Nvidia drivers version 313.18, and I haven't updated that in a coupl week, and I've had intervening reboots
[03:50] <dr_willis> darkhelmet46:  ive seen mention where  that  .config/autorun  and /etc/rc.local can both run stuff at shutdown.  but  never seen how  to  make it do  it.
[03:50] <holstein> !proaudio | dr_willis this guide is pretty good, but its a long page to get to what im talking about, and most dont make it down there
[03:51] <dr_willis> i just want to record whats in a window.. and exacctly what i hear. ;) or just the audio from that playing video..
[03:51] <dr_willis> but i  havent even needed to do that in a year... so ive not looked into it  lately
[03:51] <user__> where are the keyboard layout settings?
[03:52] <bloopletech> If, after logging in, I switch to a VT, and run DISPLAY=":0" gnome-session, then I get a bunch of compiz stuff, notably FBO IS UNSUPPORTED errors, but I think those have been there before
[03:52] <evilytwisted> holstein:  i changed the audio driver to alsa.. and the other frames/period  and samplerate was the same as you mentioned
[03:52] <evilytwisted> Yet it still wont connect to it
[03:52] <evilytwisted> and ive killed jack multiple of times
[03:53] <holstein> evilytwisted: there is a lot of configuring... and setup.. and JACK *is* overkill for this. but you must wait on me.. for each stop
[03:53] <holstein> step*
[03:53] <evilytwisted> ok
[03:53] <evilytwisted> ty
[03:53] <darkhelmet46> dr_willis, ok i added a line to rc.local, let's see what happens...
[03:53] <capella> meh - something happened to gnome-search-tools' "open containing folder" behaviour after I started tinkering with the |exo-open| command ...
[03:53] <bloopletech> The only thing I can find is to disable texture compression, however it wasn't switched on, I've added an explicit texture-compression=false to the dconf config, and it's still not working after a reboot
[03:53] <evilytwisted> if there was something better to use than record my desktop I would use it..
[03:53] <evilytwisted> IM not trying to make a mountain out of a pile of dirt..
[03:53] <holstein> evilytwisted: so, see that JACK is not running in the terminal.. kill all jack processess.. ps aux | grep jack
[03:54] <darkhelmet46> nope, didn't work lol
[03:54] <evilytwisted> holstein:  I keep trying to kill jack but it wont die..
[03:54] <evilytwisted> I did pkill jack.. killall jack....
[03:54] <evilytwisted> and it still wont die
[03:54] <Bray90820> why does the touchscreen work so much better from the login screen then on the desktop
[03:54] <holstein> evilytwisted: kill -9 pid
[03:54] <bloopletech> evilytwisted: sudo killall -9 jack
[03:55] <evilytwisted> http://pastebin.com/T3Rgu2fn
[03:55] <KI4RO> dr_willis, It did not like nomodeset at all  LOL  had to reboot from a cd and then gedit the config file and then reboot whew! LOL
[03:55] <evilytwisted> this holstein  is my problem
[03:55] <evilytwisted> It says jack is running
[03:55] <evilytwisted> But when i try to kill it.. it states it isnt running
[03:56] <holstein> kill -9 3431 or just reboot if you want..
[03:56] <bravis>  
[03:58] <darkhelmet46> hey dr_willis, looks like this will do it, but not sure how actually edit this file: http://askubuntu.com/questions/91829/save-virtualbox-vm-state-before-logout
[03:58] <evilytwisted> http://pastebin.com/kraGEDt8
[03:59] <evilytwisted> holstein:  did you get that lastest pastebin link?
[03:59] <selena2013> anyone command autoremove before ? what is good for ???
[03:59] <holstein> evilytwisted: so, you are clear then? nothing but grep when you run ps aux | grep jack?
[03:59] <usr13> evilytwisted: To kill a process by name you have to use pkill Otherwise use the pid
[04:00] <evilytwisted> I understand waht your saying usr13  IM not trying to come across like a idiot
[04:00] <evilytwisted> I did pkill i did kill-9 with pid
[04:00] <evilytwisted> YEt it wont die
[04:00] <evilytwisted> it keeps rebooting..
[04:00] <usr13> evilytwisted: Did you use kill?
[04:00] <evilytwisted> Killall  pkill kill-9\
[04:00] <evilytwisted> Yes
[04:00] <usr13> evilytwisted: Why do you need to kill it in the first place?
[04:01] <evilytwisted> holstein:  asked to make sure jack isnt running
[04:01] <usr13> evilytwisted: You can uninstall it.
[04:01] <usr13> evilytwisted: Why
[04:01] <evilytwisted> holstein: ?
[04:01] <bloopletech> it looks like the process name isn't plain 'jack', looks like 'jack_lsp' and 'jackdbus'
[04:01] <evilytwisted> Ill show you the lastet attempts to kill it
[04:01] <holstein> evilytwisted: gksudo qjackctl ..though, you dont want to run jack as root all the time..
[04:02] <selena2013> sudo apt-get clean  , what it means
[04:02] <evilytwisted> http://pastebin.com/zNwMYqtd
[04:02] <holstein> evilytwisted: make sure the settings are as i asked.. and see that the interface settings are good.. and try hitting "start"
[04:03] <evilytwisted> ok
[04:03] <holstein> evilytwisted: pastebin any errors
[04:03] <usr13> evilytwisted: So you killed it.
[04:03] <evilytwisted> http://pastebin.com/nxKfZK4r
[04:04] <evilytwisted> usr13:  No i didnt kill it..
[04:04] <evilytwisted> It keeps apearing
[04:04] <bloopletech> evilytwisted: note that the grep jack you're seeing in the ps results is the "grep" command itself, not the "jack" command you're trying to kill
[04:04] <evilytwisted> bloopletech:  english plz? im sorry i didnt understand
[04:04] <darkhelmet46> How do I edit my .bash_logout file?
[04:05] <holstein> evilytwisted: /join #ubuntustudio so we can keep the channel clear
[04:05] <bloopletech> evilytwisted: the "grep --colour=auto jack" line you're seeing isn't actually jack, and you can safely ignore it
[04:06] <thewiredbear> anyone here?
[04:06] <bloopletech> when you do "ps aux | grep jack", that starts the grep program, and because of how the shell works, the "ps" command actually picks up on the grep program and will list that along with whatever it is you're searching for
[04:07] <evilytwisted> ahh..
[04:07] <evilytwisted> ty bloopletech
[04:07] <cfhowlett> thewiredbear, what's the issue ?
[04:07] <bloopletech> so if you do ps aux | grep choclate, you'll always see grep itself in teh results, even if you don't have ant choclate running
[04:07] <bloopletech> np
[04:07] <thewiredbear> anyone up for another sound problem, probably already solved before but I don't seem to find the right solution
[04:07] <evilytwisted> Ook.. that makes sense but doesnt at the same time
[04:07] <evilytwisted> its like a psuedo
[04:07] <evilytwisted> But its really not there
[04:08] <thewiredbear> Okay, this is the whole outlook,  I have ubuntu 12.10.....and it all was working fine, then suddenly, ubuntu stopped reading my soundcards, while alsamixer works perfectly fine and I can manage audio from there, and resulting to all of this, my unity sound control ( the one with rythmbox is gone).....BUT STILL OUT OF ALL OF THIS, ALSA WORKS and I DO HAVE SOUND FROM MY SPEAKERS.....  Please help me as soon as possible....it is re
[04:08] <thewiredbear> help please on this one!
[04:08] <bloopletech> evilytwisted: basically. It's a bit complicated, I'd jus deal with the current issue and ignore it :P
[04:08] <thewiredbear> please dude!
[04:08] <bloopletech> I get sidetracked myself >_>
[04:09] <thewiredbear> I really can't even use my equalizer!
[04:09] <cfhowlett> !patience|thewiredbear,
[04:09] <bloopletech> thewiredbear: ok dude I'll try to help
[04:09] <thewiredbear> man I could have helped......had I not been a noob myself
[04:09] <darkhelmet46> Anyone know how I edit my .bash_logout file?
[04:09] <evilytwisted> thewiredbear:  were all a noob at one point in life
[04:09] <bloopletech> thewiredbear: max relax ;). Ok so do you get sound in any of your music players?
[04:09] <evilytwisted> even bloopletech  tech here..
[04:09] <bloopletech> of course
[04:09] <thewiredbear> yup I get sound everywhere
[04:10] <thewiredbear> point is I have no way to control it
[04:10] <thewiredbear> my settings don't show any soundcard
[04:10] <thewiredbear> while I can manage from terminal through alsa mixer
[04:10] <bloopletech> darkhelmet46: go to the file manager, hit ctrl + h, then see the bach logout file, double click it,
[04:10] <bloopletech> thewiredbear: the settings probably are using pulseaudio whereas the alsamixer is using alsa
[04:11] <bloopletech> but we can figure it out
[04:11] <thewiredbear> yup I tried killall pulseaudio........then terminal says it is a wrong command
[04:11] <darkhelmet46> ty bloopletech!  got it.  ctrl+h shows hidden files I assume?
[04:11] <bloopletech> thewiredbear: well hang on a sec you may actually want pulseaudio
[04:11] <bloopletech> darkhelmet46: yep
[04:12] <thewiredbear> okay <blooptech>
[04:12] <bloopletech> darkhelmet46: on linux files that start with a "." are hidden,by convention
[04:12] <vipzrx> holstein: here ?
[04:12] <darkhelmet46> crap, it's not doing what i want it to do anyway...
[04:12] <bloopletech> thewiredbear: so if you go unity launcher > sound, are there any output devices listed?
[04:13] <vipzrx> holstein: W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ precise/partner amd64 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.canonical.com_ubuntu_dists_precise_partner_binary-amd64_Packages)
[04:13] <holstein> vipzrx: yes.. you have just what the error says.. duplicate sources.. also, you have 32 and 64bit sources.. its a mess there
[04:13] <holstein> vipzrx: you need to clean that up.. if you added anything manually, remove them, and hope you can recover
[04:13] <bloopletech> darkhelmet46: note that bash_logout is probably for when you exit a terminal session (or similar)
[04:13] <vipzrx> holstein:  i use ubuntu 12.04 64bit
 no output/input given
 no output/input given
 no output/input given
[04:13] <FloodBot1> thewiredbear: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:14] <vipzrx> holstein:  i have no idea !
[04:14] <holstein> vipzrx: you have duplicate entries in your sources, the error states... i would look at them
[04:14] <darkhelmet46> bloopletech, I want to run [vboxmanage controlvm <vm_name> savestate] when I shutdown or log off...
[04:14] <azizLIGHTS> is there a way to add "nomodeset" to the livecd befoer it starts loading
[04:15] <azizLIGHTS> i am having problems with my graphics and s-video to tv
[04:15] <bloopletech> darkhelmet46: hmm, /etc/rcblah probably isnt going to cut it, because by the time they run you're already logged out and so the virtualbox instance is killed
[04:15] <bloopletech> presuming that you're starting the virtualbox instance after you're logged in
[04:16] <holstein> azizLIGHTS: i do that by getting to an alternate menu by tapping or holding shift after the bios screen.. then f6 at the bottom has "nomodeset"
[04:16] <vipzrx> holstein: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5575364/  is the output of "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[04:16] <azizLIGHTS> holstein: thank you
[04:16] <sahil_> Good morning people!
[04:17] <holstein> vipzrx: just comment out any duplictates
[04:17] <darkhelmet46> bloopletech, any ideas?
[04:17] <bloopletech> thewiredbear: can you open a terminal and do "aplay -L" and pastie the output?
[04:18] <bloopletech> darkhelmet46: sorry, not off the top of my head, I'm happy enough I've got things working on login
[04:18] <bloopletech> There's probably a gnome-specific way to do things on logout
[04:18] <bloopletech> but I don't know it myself
[04:19] <darkhelmet46> ok no problem, just trying to make it brainless.
[04:19] <darkhelmet46> brb
[04:20] <dr_willis> darkhelmet46:  check askubuntu.com - they might know the proper way. ive seen this asked befor - but never saw a 'good' answer
[04:20] <vipzrx> holstein:  i find no duplictates
[04:21] <dr_willis> vipzrx:  loook in the sources.list.d/ directory also.   the sort command can sort  the  file and print it out also. ;)
[04:21] <holstein> vipzrx: in a terminal... sudo apt-get update .. post errors once more
[04:22] <vipzrx> sort? holstein
[04:22] <dr_willis> sort /etc/apt/sources.list  | uniq        ;)   i think  would filter out  all dupes. in that file.
[04:23] <sahil_> hello people! everyone is aware  of the "error: sparse file cannot be created" bug of grub,.... i just reinstalled the grub and the problem  was solved!
[04:23] <dr_willis> as for sources.list.d/ that may take a little more work
[04:23] <holstein> vipzrx: whats that?
[04:23] <Rallias> mmk... I'm trying to create a bridge device between tap0 and tap1, and have a pre-up script to start openvpn before launching, but it fails because the tap0 and tap1 devices don't exist... how do I correct this?
[04:24] <vipzrx> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5575383/ holstein  dr_willis
[04:25] <vipzrx> output of "sort /etc/apt/sources.list | uniq  "
[04:25] <holstein> vipzrx: sudo apt-get update
[04:25] <dr_willis> vipzrx:  that should have removed any duplicate lines. :) do a  line count on it and the original to  see if  any  lines have been removed
[04:26] <dr_willis> sort /etc/apt/sources.list  | uniq     | wc -l       vs output of    wc -l /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:26] <dr_willis> uniq requires a sorted input.. i recall from.. years back
[04:26] <vipzrx> jb@panda:~$ sort /etc/apt/sources.list | uniq | wc -l
[04:26] <vipzrx> 51
[04:26] <vipzrx> jb@panda:~$ wc -l /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:26] <vipzrx> 59 /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:26] <FloodBot1> vipzrx: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:27] <dr_willis> looks like 8 lines were removed.. but those might have been blank/empty lines
[04:27] <foobarface> why not just use sort -u instead of uniq then?
[04:27] <dr_willis> foobarface:  perhaps when i learned uniq in the 1970s it dident have a -u ;)
[04:27] <dr_willis> or sort.. :)
[04:27] <foobarface> XD
[04:27] <dr_willis> i started years ago on Sun Workstations
[04:28] <foobarface> dr_willis: i humbly bow before your many years of knowledge
[04:28] <dr_willis> the good old says of High res Greyscale monitors.. ;) i forget the res they used.
[04:28]  * darkhelmet46 is back.  At least I figured out how to get Hibernate working.  :D
[04:29] <derrick__> has anybody ever suddenly had their install be really slow to open up folders in nautilus/nemo?
[04:30] <bloopletech> derrick__: sometimes, try Quitting nautlus (right click it in the unity panel and click Quit), then start it again
[04:30] <dr_willis> ive had X/driver/compiz issues make all of X slow...
[04:30] <dr_willis> but never noticed it just for nautilus
[04:30] <derrick__> bloopletech: it has been constant for the last month
[04:30] <derrick__> my X is super fast
[04:31] <bloopletech> derrick__: hmm that is definitely odd. this persists after reboots, etc?
[04:31] <derrick__> just seems like file operations are slow ever since I remove a ntfs RAID from my machine
[04:31] <derrick__> bloopletech: Yeah
[04:31] <bloopletech> derrick__: across all filesystems, like portable hard drives / usb drive / other drive paritiions?
[04:32] <derrick__> switching folders, mounting drives, and sometimes loading webpages are slower than they should.
[04:32] <foobarface> derrick__: do you have any nfs hard mounts by chance?
[04:33] <foobarface> derrick__: nvm, that isn't what i thought it sounded like at first
[04:33] <derrick__> foobarface: I don't, but I actually installed nfs support recently... hmm..
[04:33] <foobarface> derrick__: is it in your fstab file?
[04:33] <derrick__> nope
[04:34] <jiltdil> how to find all hidden files present  in system              instead of this find /path/to/dest/ -iname ".*" -maxdepth 1 -type f any good & short way to  find ?
[04:35] <vipzrx> dr_willis: uniq consider "blank line" ?
[04:35] <derrick__> it takes about 15 seconds to open folders, and my hard drive isn't going crazy with activity. it's super weird.
[04:36] <bloopletech> derrick__: sounds suspiciously like something is timing out
[04:36] <bloopletech> maybe it's trying to do something nfs-y and ping something that's down etc
[04:36] <dr_willis> vipzrx: duplicate lines get removed.. 6 blank lines  mean 5 get removed
[04:37] <usr13> jiltdil: What is wrong with the way you just quoted?
[04:37] <jiltdil> usr13,  nothing... please read my question any short way to find...
[04:38] <jiltdil> usr13, Any idea?
[04:39] <bloopletech> jiltdil: that find command looks fine to me? Is using find like that problematic for you?
[04:39] <foobarface> jiltdil: a shorter command?  i suppose you could just find all files, then grep it for begining with a .
[04:39] <foobarface> jiltdil: but that's probably not shorter acutally
[04:39] <jiltdil> bloopletech, no.but want to type less
[04:40] <derrick__> alright, lets see what happens when i remove nfs-common...
[04:40] <bloopletech> jiltdil: you could make a bash alias for it
[04:40] <vipzrx> dr_willis: did you read my  sources.list ?http://paste.ubuntu.com/5575364/
[04:41] <jiltdil> bloopletech, that's not my answer :P  Any way i'll try to find if possible
[04:41] <bloopletech> add 'alias findhidden="find . -iname \".*\" -maxdepth 1"' to your ~/.bashrc file, open a new terminal, and type findhidden<enter>
[04:41] <bloopletech> jiltdil: then what are your requirements? We can't give you an answer unless we know what you need
[04:42] <dr_willis> vipzrx: whats the exact error you are having anyway. the sort commands we used showed no dupes that i noticed.
[04:42] <jiltdil> bloopletech, Actually i want to write less character in terminal & your aliasing solution is nice .. but what if i don't want to alias :)  Thanks for support
[04:43] <dr_willis> make a 2 line script.  ;-)
[04:43] <bloopletech> jiltdil: you could make a script in /usr/local/bin
[04:43] <bloopletech> then you could run it from anywhere on the system
[04:43] <dr_willis>   /home/username/bin    for a user
[04:44] <vipzrx> dr_willis: jb@panda:~$ sort /etc/apt/sources.list | uniq | wc -l
[04:44] <vipzrx>  51
[04:44] <vipzrx> jb@panda:~$ wc -l /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:44] <vipzrx> 59 /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:45] <vipzrx> dr_willis:  i want to install emacs from ppa,
[04:45] <dr_willis> so 51 unique lines in the file.. 59 in original... now count the number of blank lines.. i saw 8
[04:46] <sahil_> is there any libreoffice 4 ppa?? i am ubuntu 12.04
[04:46] <dr_willis> vipzrx:  redundant entries in sources.list wont prevent that
[04:46] <vipzrx> dr_willis:  that means there is no difference
[04:46] <cfhowlett> sahil_, you can install lib4 directly
[04:46] <dr_willis> vipzrx:  so your extra stuff is in   /sources.list.d/  somewhere...
[04:46] <escott> bloopletech, should your find pattern not be \.*
[04:46] <packetfrog> excuse me? Yes? how to hax planet?
[04:47] <bravis> can anyone tell me how to correct low soung in Xubuntu??
[04:47] <bravis> sound*
[04:47] <sahil_> cfhowlett_ i kinow that will install the enire suite, infact i have downloaded as well i just need writer and  impress
[04:47] <vipzrx> dr_willis: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5575403/
[04:47] <bloopletech> escott: ah yes, in that case definitely
[04:47] <dr_willis> vipzrx:  /etc /sources.list.d/   holds added ppa entries
[04:47] <vipzrx> this is my problem
[04:48] <sahil_> know*
[04:48] <foobarface> jiltdil: does this do what you want? it wont' produce the identical output however.      ls -A | grep "^\."
[04:48] <jiltdil> foobarface, kindof
[04:48] <jiltdil> foobarface, thanks
[04:48] <wad> So, on my old debian system, I'd edit /etc/network/interfaces to do things like configure my NICs. But that doesn't seem to be the right way to do it anymore. What file do I edit now?
[04:49] <foobarface> jiltdil: no prob, sorry it's not a 100% solution (and therefore not really a solution)
[04:49] <dr_willis> vipzrx: and looks like its nothing to do with entries in ypur sources to me.
[04:49] <wad> There is a networkmanager thingy now... where do I got to configure my network cards?
[04:49] <bloopletech> wad: are you looking to do something custom, or just connect to a network?
[04:49] <vipzrx> dr_willis: ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ http://paste.ubuntu.com/5575405/
[04:49] <jiltdil> foobarface,  no problem. thanks for your valuable time
[04:50] <escott> bloopletech, just tested it. find seems to interpret . differently from every other program
[04:50] <wad> I'm replacing my old debian machine, acting as a network gateway, with Ubuntu.
[04:50] <bloopletech> wad: ah ok. Well the short version is: network-manager is mainly for merely connecting to a network. If you want a custom setup, you're better off configuring the network manually
[04:51] <wad> So I'm needing to do a bunch of custom stuff. :)
[04:51] <bloopletech> which you can still do via /etc/network/interfaces
[04:51] <dr_willis> hmm
[04:51] <bloopletech> you can add lines to interfaces to mark certain interfaces to not be automatically managed
[04:51] <wad> bloopletech, perfect. So I suppose I need to tell the network manager to... not do things automatically?
[04:51] <dr_willis> vipzrx: and looks like its nothing to do with entries in ypur sources to me.
[04:52] <dr_willis> vipzrx:  the emacs pavkage has an issue
[04:52] <vipzrx> dr_willis:  what should i do next ?
[04:52] <wad> bloopletech, so just adding an entry in interfaces is enough to convince networkmanager to not do it automatically?
[04:52] <bloopletech> wad: um one sec
[04:52] <dr_willis> no idea. i dont use emasc. the error says report a bug
[04:52] <wad> sure! Thanks for the help, by the way!
[04:53] <bloopletech> wad: what you want is "iface wlan0 inet manual" (or similar) in /etc/network/interfaces
[04:53] <vipzrx> dr_willis: ok thank you
[04:53] <dr_willis>  Please file a bug report against emacs-snapshot
[04:53] <wad> bloopletech, got it. Thanks!
[04:53] <bloopletech> that's enough to get network-manager out of your hair; then it's up to you
[04:54] <DigitalNinja> Yo
[04:54] <wad> bloopletech, the first puzzle I've run into: The system is incorrectly assigning eth0 and eth1 to the interfaces. I recall there was a way to force them to be the same every time, at least with debian.
[04:55] <bloopletech> wad: humm, the last time I did this was like 6 months ago...
[04:55] <wad> I'll look for it.
[04:55] <wad> Don't bother.
[04:55] <bloopletech> thanks ;)
[04:55] <wad> Just checking to see if it was cached.
[04:55] <wad> ;)
[04:56] <bloopletech> the one tipoff I have is: if you're wanting to share an internet connection from one machine to others, it's a massive PITA, but it is possible
[04:56] <bloopletech> I remember hostapd and firestarter being important components
[04:57] <wad> bloopletech, I had this all set up under debian. Fancy firewall rules in my iptables, transparent proxy with squid, etc. But that OS finally gave up the ghost, so I'm upgrading to Ubuntu.
[04:57] <foobarface> so has anyone successfully gotten steam/tf2/source engine games to work on 12.10 with fglrx?  it appears that the repo is pretty far behind (even fglrx-updates has no updates)
[04:58] <foobarface> i'm just curious to hear a sucess story, not looking for troubleshooting help
[04:58] <thtanner> what card btw
[04:58] <foobarface> radeon hd 5470
[04:58] <thtanner> my mobile 4000 series was a right pain
[04:58] <mcurran> TOPIC FOR ME = MULTI-BOOTING:  What's the most professional way to dual-boot with windows 8, without any fallout problems later on, since ms likes to control what you use on your hardware and if you use their product then no-one else allowed.  Can Grub 2 handle passing the required info to WIN8's UEFI secure boot requirements?  Because I've tried numerous times, and my OS install only lasted about a week tops outta ten tries.
[04:58] <foobarface> ah, i have the mobile 5000 series :(
[04:59] <thtanner> its a very different card and considered more modern
[04:59] <foobarface> thtanner: did you eventually get it to work though?
[04:59] <thtanner> the hd 2-4k got set to legacy
[04:59] <thtanner> amd finally released 13.1
[04:59] <thtanner> cleared up my issue
[04:59] <foobarface> oh right... didn't they stop supporting the 4k cards in the latest driver?
[04:59] <thtanner> reintroduced it i guess
[04:59] <foobarface> that was in mid january right?
[04:59] <mcurran> PS:  I always install my bootloaders for each repective OS in their own respective partitions.
[04:59] <bloopletech> foobarface: I would use the drivers directly off the amd website rather than the ubuntu packages
[05:00] <thtanner> that was this month I thought
[05:00] <thtanner> i agree with bloop.
[05:00] <foobarface> bloopletech: thtanner: ok awesome, thanks for the help... this gives me hope!
[05:00] <thtanner> just run their installer script and it should hopefully do the rest
[05:00] <foobarface> i assume i need to compile a deb from source with them? or do they provide one?
[05:00] <kedar_apte> trying to access anymeeting.com on ubuntu 12.04.02 and flash settings cannot be clicked.......works properly on Linux Mint Nadia...
[05:00] <thtanner> they have a script that takes care of the kernel blob and such
[05:01] <bloopletech> foobarface: I used to have a 5650 HD mobile chipset
[05:01] <bloopletech> foobarface: though I switched to the open source drivers eventually
[05:01] <thtanner> its all automated for the most part as long as things go well
[05:01] <thtanner> open source drivers caused glitching on my 4000 series sadly
[05:01] <wad> bloopletech, found it. Edit /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules to assign NIC names by MAC address. :-D
[05:01] <foobarface> thtanner: ah, i think i see it... the .run one?
[05:01] <thtanner> correct
[05:01] <foobarface> awesome, thanks!
[05:01] <bloopletech> wad: nice
[05:01] <wad> Making the change.... I might drop off.
[05:01] <thtanner> gl
[05:02] <foobarface> bloopletech: yea, i started using the open source drivers, but i had hdmi output issues (interlaced video for some reason), but more importantly, games would run at 9fps
[05:03]  * wad wonders
[05:04] <foobarface> i'm just one of those people who hates to install without a repo, especially for something that I want to be bleeding edge, like video card drivers... but you guys seem to be happy with 13.1, so i'll try it out
[05:04] <bloopletech> foobarface: tbh with video card drivers, the official sites are usually more up to date than the repos
[05:05] <foobarface> bloopletech: that just seems so strange to me though since it's one of the few packages out there that so many people would use
[05:06] <bloopletech> foobarface: well by definition, the repos are just repackaging the stuff off the official site
[05:06] <dr_willis> theres a limit to the manpower they can allocate on keeping specific stuff up to date.. ubuntu dosent try to stay up with the nvidia or ati  drivers
[05:06] <dr_willis> ive also see those various .run installers break things..
[05:06] <foobarface> true, i suppose...
[05:07] <dr_willis> ubuntu is not designed to be bleeding edge. ;)
[05:07] <foobarface> dr_willis: really?  well now i'm scared to even try it haha
[05:08] <dr_willis> foobarface:  had a guy in here just yesterday was fighting with the .run stuff.. he eventually got it removed and  backto  the normal fglrx repo  drivers
[05:08] <dr_willis> this channel  basically dosent/cant support the  use of the .run drivers
[05:08] <argure_> hai, I'm having some issues getting 12.10 running properly
[05:08] <foobarface> dr_willis: do you mean to tell me that a 6 month turn around to get new software is not bleeding edge?? /sarcasm :P
[05:08] <argure_> I've tried installing nvidia-current after building linux-headers `uname -r` and linux-source
[05:08] <argure_> but modprobe nvidia_current throws a nice "Device not found"
[05:09] <foobarface> i'm not a fan of using some random .run either... it's just hard when they don't provide another comparable choice
[05:09] <dr_willis> foobarface:  isee people in here this month mad that their 8.xx release was no longer supported...
[05:09] <dr_willis> or others trying to get steam going on a 8.x install..
[05:10] <dr_willis> im more hampered by the lack of armv6 support. ;)  since i cant run ubuntu on my raspberry pi without it,
[05:10] <tdrusk> I'm stupid and did a chown tdrusk:tdrusk -R .* in my Videos directory, which seems to have went up to my home directory because it caught the .. folder as well. Does that mean that it went up another directory(/home) and kept going up or does it stop?
[05:10] <foobarface> hahaha... well i'm kinda guilty of living in the past too... i was using an unsupported 10.10 install until a little while ago (i'm stupid and should have just used the LTS)
[05:11] <dr_willis> i wouldent think -R .* would travel UP...
[05:11] <foobarface> dr_willis: i thought someone hacked together debian on the pi
[05:11] <dr_willis> foobarface:  rasbian is the official debian variant for  the  pi. but  thats not ubuntu. ;)
[05:12] <tdrusk> dr_willis: It goes up because *. includes ..
[05:12] <alexitcarper> can anyone here help me?
[05:12] <dr_willis> tdrusk:  ive definatly seen commands use .* that do not go Up and ignore . and ..
[05:12] <foobarface> dr_willis: true... i just guessed that if debian works, ubuntu would follow... shame that they do'nt support it though :( can't go wrong with a $25/35 computer
[05:12] <bloopletech> alexitcarper: no, we're all angry morons
[05:12] <dr_willis> foobarface:  its all  about  manpower
[05:12] <alexitcarper> wow
[05:12] <dr_willis> tdrusk:  did you use sudo  with that command?
[05:13] <alexitcarper> i just hooked up a external dvd drive and i cant seem to mount it so i can use it
[05:13] <foobarface> tdrusk: dr_willis does -R cover symlinks?
[05:13] <tdrusk> dr_willis: Odd. I am actually not using Fuduntu, but I figured bash would be the same and I could get a faster answer here. Yes, I ran sudo. After I saw it gave me an error about not being able to change ../.gvfs I ctrl+c to stop it.
[05:13] <dr_willis> foobarface:  never really noticed..
[05:14] <dr_willis> tdrusk:  fuduntu? thats  actually redhat based.    not ubuntu at all. ;)  sounds like it stopped in the users home..
[05:15] <tdrusk> dr_willis: I know but ubuntu chat is pretty snappy and full of smart people. I agree, since /root is still owned by root.
[05:16] <bloopletech> tdrusk: it would only go up, not sideways; check ownership of /home
[05:16] <foobarface> tdrusk: yea but my IQ will being this chat's avg down
[05:16] <tdrusk> dr_willis: would the recursion go up to my home directory, finish it's work, and then go up again or is it structured in any way?
[05:16] <dr_willis> ls -R .* goes up one directory from what i see here
[05:17] <dr_willis> and stops
[05:17] <tdrusk> dr_willis: Ah, you are right. /home is owned by root. Phew, i didn't want to accidentally my system. thanks a ton for your help. :)
[05:18] <dr_willis> tdrusk:  but you ran it with sudo.. that could affect /home/
[05:18] <foobarface> good catch, yea it was the .. that did it - i'm not sure why i assumed symlinks lol
[05:18] <alexitcarper> im having a problem
[05:18] <selena2013> ubuntu 12.10 i love it
[05:18] <tdrusk> dr_willis: It could, but it doesn't look like it did if home is still owned by root right?
[05:19] <Q17> new to Linux where the best place to start
[05:19] <dr_willis> tdrusk:  yep. it  stopped at .gvfs at least
[05:19] <tdrusk> Q17: Just make it do what you want it to do. Read the forums and try to help others solve their problems. Teaching is a great way to learn.
[05:19] <packetfrog> Q17 On your computer.
[05:19] <alexitcarper> how am i supposed to mount a external dvd drive
[05:19] <packetfrog> :D:D:D
[05:19] <bloopletech> Q17: download ubuntu and install it side-by-side with your existing operating system; then come in here if you have any graphics issues etc. after installation
[05:19] <tdrusk> dr_willis: Great. No big deal then. Thanks again man.
[05:20] <dr_willis> alexitcarper:  pop in disk.. use mount command
[05:20] <alexitcarper> im not very educated. im having a problem using the mount command
[05:20] <dr_willis> !mount
[05:20] <maddog> im having problems with ubuntu and my lap
[05:21] <maddog> can anyone help me, it over heat....
[05:21] <lenny__> maddog: how old is the laptop and what version you running on it?
[05:21] <apwbdjp> maddog: You sure it's ubuntu, have it tried with an other OS?
[05:21] <Q17> bloopletech: already it setup in vmware workststation 9 - with backtrack 5r3
[05:22] <bloopletech> Q17: ok. You're probably going to have a better long-term experience if you install it to the system itself. But that's a start
[05:22] <maddog> yes it is ubuntu 12.10
[05:22] <maddog> and yes i have windows 8 and tha so dont overheat
[05:23] <foobarface> maddog: do you hear your fans turn on at all under ubuntu?
[05:23] <maddog> no i dont
[05:23] <foobarface> maddog: (obvious related question) do you normally hear them under windows
[05:23] <maddog> my computer its a toshiba  amd x2 ati
[05:23] <foobarface> maddog: i only ask becuase some computers just are very quiet
[05:24] <Q17> bloopletech: yea was copying a file to my desktop took forever
[05:24] <bloopletech> Q17: what are your machine's spes?
[05:24] <foobarface> maddog: do you have lm-sensors installed? or any other sensors program?
[05:24] <maddog> yes  psensor
[05:25] <Q17> hp corei3 4gb
[05:25] <alexitcarper> command says it cant find the dvd
[05:25] <alexitcarper> drive
[05:25] <bloopletech> yeah it's not going to be the fastest thing ever
[05:25] <bloopletech> in a VM, I mean
[05:26] <foobarface> maddog: psensor shows fan speed, correct?  does it ever show fans turning on?
[05:27] <Q17> 768mb 20gb
[05:27] <keyboardChalleng> hi all, random challenge with ubuntu on a laptop.  They keyboard glitches randomly to where I have to hold a key for 3 seconds before it registers and key-combos don't work.  It's all fixed if I logout and login.  Any clues? (running xfce desktop)
[05:27] <foobarface> maddog: also, i had an older computer with overheating issues in linux which turned out to be due to compiz effects, you could try turning down/off any effects to test if that is the issue
[05:28] <keyboardChalleng> I'm wondering what might be reloading during logout / login to make the keyboard work again
[05:29] <bloopletech> foobarface, maddog: actually yeah compiz could be doing a lot of bad things if you don't have the right graphics drivers; what's the graphics chipset?
[05:30] <AcidRain> since earlier today. i get: The installation or removal of a software package failed.
[05:30] <AcidRain> in the software center
[05:30] <AcidRain> any solutions?
[05:30] <AcidRain> it appears, the package does indeed remove AND install. but i get the error
[05:31] <Q17> ok
[05:31] <keyboardChalleng> hi all, random challenge with ubuntu on a laptop.  They keyboard glitches randomly to where I have to hold a key for 3 seconds before it registers and key-combos don't work.  It's all fixed if I logout and login.  Any clues? (running xfce desktop)
[05:32] <packetfrog> wow
[05:32] <tonsofpcs> routing fail....
[05:32] <packetfrog> :):)
[05:32] <Q17> so which is better for a newb bracktrack or ubuntu
[05:32] <packetfrog> ubuntu
[05:33] <foobarface> Q17: ubuntu hands down
[05:33] <Q17> why?
[05:33] <packetfrog> backtrack is a security penitration testing distrobution.
[05:33] <tonsofpcs> for a newb for what? also, you're in #ubuntu so the anwer will always be ubuntu.
[05:33] <packetfrog> It is not even for desktop use. It is a tool for a specific purpose.
[05:33] <Q17> :)
[05:34] <Q17> yea i hve both running in vmware workstartion 9
[05:35] <segin> I'm trying to compile a project that I wrote on Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS AMD64, but the compile fails at the link step
[05:35] <foobarface> tonsofpcs: while the people here do have a bias, the question does seem to be like asking a car salesman "which car is easier to drive, an average 4 door or a tank?"
[05:35] <keyboardChalleng> during logout and login from desktop session, what could be fixing my keyboard issue?
[05:35] <segin> There are no complains about missing libraries, just complains of missing symbols
[05:35] <lazer> foobarface: That's easy. Tank. :)
[05:35] <segin> The program compiles on my FreeBSD box without issue, and I use GNU Autoconf for my build system
[05:35] <foobarface> lazer: XD
[05:36] <keyboardChalleng> last time to ask: random challenge with ubuntu on a laptop.  They keyboard glitches randomly to where I have to hold a key for 3 seconds before it registers and key-combos don't work.  It's all fixed if I logout and login.  Any clues? (running xfce desktop)
[05:36] <bloopletech> segin: so ./configure passes fine?
[05:36] <segin> Is there any known reason why the linker would find the libraries but be unable to resolve synbols?
[05:36] <keyboardChalleng> I'm wondering what might be reloading during logout / login to make the keyboard work again
[05:36] <segin> bloopletech: yes, it would be trying to link if configure didn't pass
[05:36] <tonsofpcs> foobarface: nah, it's more like asking a chevy salesman "ok, what's better: a chevy truck or a fishing boat"
[05:37] <aeon-ltd> keyboardChalleng: something xorg input related?
[05:37] <dr_willis_> a segway...
[05:37] <segin> wouldn't*
[05:37] <bloopletech> segin: can you pastie the makefile and the compilation output?
[05:38] <segin> The Makefile is generated from Makefile.am via automake
[05:38] <ramoer> hi
[05:38] <bloopletech> well then pastie the am file...
[05:38] <segin> but like I said, it works perfectly fine on my FreeBSD box
[05:40] <foobarface> did anyone switch to using gnome classic and have all their taken-for-granted keyboard shortcuts stop working? (basics like alt-tab)
[05:40] <bloopletech> well they are different operating systems so that isn't really enough information to solve the problem
[05:40] <foobarface> i know how to set them back, i'm just wondering if this is normal behavior
[05:40] <bloopletech> we need to see the compilation log so we can check the flags to gcc etc
[05:40] <dr_willis_> foobarface:  not heard anyone else complain
[05:41] <packetfrog> :D:D:D
[05:41] <foobarface> dr_willis_: ok thanks... i probably just goofed up something then
[05:41] <nell> one of my partitions is nearing maximum capacity. is there an easy way to just appoint a new mount or drive? chroot right?
[05:41] <apwbdjp> foobarface, switching windows managers does some times mess up with keyboard shortcuts
[05:42] <dr_willis_> whats a new mount going to do? You can mount a new filesystem to some /whtever/ dir and move stuff over. :) if thats what you mean'
[05:42] <bloopletech> nell: you want to resize a partition? or make a new one on blank space?
[05:42] <foobarface> apwbdjp: ah, ok thanks!  glad i'm not just going crazy
[05:42] <dr_willis_> nell:  thats nothing to do with chroot
[05:42] <apwbdjp> foobarface, I've never switched to Gnome Classic, but I did lose everything when switching to more "from scratch" WMs, like Openbox or FVWM
[05:42] <segin> okie
[05:43] <dr_willis_> openvox and fvwm has their own seperate settings from gnome.. so  the shorts btween the 2 are not related
[05:44] <dr_willis_> gnome classic uses the same gnome underneeth. so the shortcuts should stay the same.. unless its compiz using the shortcuts in unity.. and   whatever the gnomeclassic is using.. is not seeing the settings
[05:44] <dr_willis_> gnome classic/fallback uses mutter dosent it?
[05:44] <dr_willis_> or metacity?
[05:45] <foobarface> dr_willis_: i think mutter replaced metacity
[05:45] <segin> bloopletech: let me make clean and rebuild using a different terminal emulator... the log got chopped by xterm
[05:46] <foobarface> dr_willis_: but that's a good idea... i should check if compiz is messing with it somehow
[05:46] <bloopletech> segin: gnome-terminal has a preference to enable unlimited scrollback
[05:46] <vipzrx> dr_willis_: W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ precise/partner amd64 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.canonical.com_ubuntu_dists_precise_partner_binary-amd64_Packages) have been solved !   in the page of http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppa/canonical_partner?dist=precise ,Setup repository with:
[05:46] <vipzrx> sudo sh -c 'echo "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ precise partner" >> \
[05:46] <vipzrx> /etc/apt/sources.list.d/canonical_partner.list'
[05:46] <vipzrx> i have done it twice ,at different time. after i issue the aommand "$ sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list.d/canonical_partner.list" ,i found the same two line "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ precise partner" . i delete one , it works !
[05:46] <FloodBot1> vipzrx: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:47] <segin> bloopletech: I use Lubuntu and I prefer xterm, with lxterminal being my fallback
[05:48] <bloopletech> segin: sure
[05:48] <SaidKLE> Question: is there a way to edit the style of Ubuntu consoles (i.e. what you get to by typing ctrl-alt-<f1-f6>)?
[05:48] <segin> bloopletech: This is my Makefile.am http://pastebin.com/2JRj5zaS
[05:49] <segin> bloopletech: This is the Makefile (after .am -> .in -> this) http://pastebin.com/fmCbBYE1
[05:49] <dr_willis_> SaidKLE: in framebuffer mode yes. fbset can change things and theres a fbterm app
[05:49] <segin> bloopletech: This is the build log: http://pastebin.com/0dgMRuFU
[05:49] <dr_willis_> !info fbterm
[05:49] <bloopletech> segin: looking
[05:50] <segin> bloopletech: If you want to play with it locally yourself, the SVN repo is https://psymp3.googlecode.com/svn/trunk
[05:50] <SaidKLE> cool, thanks.
[05:50] <wad> I'm confused again. Need to set up dhcp. But I don't think I need "dhcp3-server" anymore, it says that this is just a transitional package. And there already exists /etc/dhcp. Do I made my changes to /etc/dhcp/dhcpd.conf... but how to I restart the daemon? There is no /etc/init.d/dhcp .... ?
[05:51] <segin> wad: DHCP as a server, or as a client to a server on e.g. a router?
[05:51] <wad> server
[05:51] <wad> Well, both.
[05:51] <bloopletech> segin: trying
[05:51] <segin> Ah, yeah, dnsmasq does the job
[05:51] <wad> Client on eth0, server on eth1.
[05:51] <wad> Is /etc/dhcp just the client?
[05:51] <segin> Yes.
[05:52] <wad> So what should I make of the result of "apt-cache show dhcp3-server" where it says that it's a transitional package that should be removed?
[05:52] <segin> wad: dnsmasq is the "recommended" server. It does a few nifty things, for example, it is a DNS proxy, and it can also take the hostnames in DHCP requests and add them to it's DNS cache
[05:52] <wad> Ah!
[05:52] <wad> New shtuff...
[05:52] <bloopletech> segin: well the first problem is your INSTALL file doesn't tell you to run automake first :/
[05:52] <segin> wad: Have you ever been on Windows, and been able to access another computer by hostname without having a local DNS server
[05:53] <segin> bloopletech: run 'generate-configure.sh'
[05:53] <wad> I don't use Windows.
[05:53] <segin> bloopletech: the lack of all those configure bits is because that is "compiled" output that is traditionally not checked into version control
[05:53] <wad> Well, okay. I think I'll just do it in dhcp3-server fo rnow. Gotta get this up and running so I can sleep tonight.
[05:54] <segin> bloopletech: release packages, of course, would include it.
[05:54] <foobarface> oh yea... here's a question i had from a long time ago... is there any way to show all manually installed packages? (when i say manually, i mean packages which the user explicitly installed)
[05:54] <bloopletech> segin: hmm ok
[05:54] <bloopletech> building
[05:54] <segin> wad: Well, you can just set a hostname in Windows on two boxen and they can find each other by resolving their hostnames via broadcast SMB
[05:55] <foobarface> there's a way to view all "manual" packages, but ubuntu seems to have marked many as manual during instalation
[05:55] <AcidRain> is there a bleachbit alternative? i feel like it does more damage than fixing now
[05:55] <wad> segin, ah.
[05:55] <segin> wad: dnsmasq accomplishes this behavior by adding the hostname reported in the DHCP request into it's DNS cache
[05:55] <AcidRain> it seems to do the same thing to me as xsessions-errors
[05:55] <wad> segin, that's spiffy. :)
[05:55] <segin> wad: You can add a new machine to your network, give it a hostname, and all the other computers can use that hostname without having to edit /etc/hosts
[05:56] <segin> wad: dnsmasq will automatically add the new machine's hostname to it's DNS cache
[05:56] <wad> segin: I have a different approach. I run DHCP and grab the MAC, and put in into the dhcpd.conf. Then that machine gets the same IP every time. If I want to hit it from another location, I add it to DNS.
[05:56] <wad> So I guess I just do it manually.
[05:57] <segin> wad: dnsmasq's DHCP server supports such "static DHCP"
[05:57] <mint_> hii
[05:57] <foobarface> mint_: HELLO!
[05:58] <mint_> How can I change a primary partition to extended. I have 4 primary partition. I need to install xp. It needs a primary partition
[05:59] <mint_> foobarface: here is the output of sudo fdisk -lu  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5575495/
[05:59] <foobarface> mint_: do you have any free space to store an image of a partition?
[06:00] <mint_> no
[06:00] <segin> mint_: Use GPartEd.
[06:00] <mint_> segin: using it but not able to do
[06:00] <apwbdjp> segin, is that doable without having to backup data?
[06:00] <foobarface> segin: can gparted change a partition in place?
[06:00] <segin> Are you booted from the same hard drive you wish to repartition?
[06:00] <erkan^> hello, where can I download --> .deb for the GIMP 2.8.2 ?
[06:00] <packetfrog> mint_ Use a virtual machine?
[06:00] <erkan^> without PPA
[06:00] <segin> erkan^: Why can't you use a PPA?
[06:01] <mint_> In sda1, Mint is installed, sda2, data folder, sda3 swap and sda4 windows8
[06:01] <mint_> segin: no, using live usv
[06:01] <erkan^> because I don't know who is this someone and I cannot true this someone, segin
[06:01] <segin> Oh.
[06:01] <zuppy> i use 12.04 on a samsung laptop and since iv done an update i cant connect to my home router via wifi when using wpa2, if i disable encryption it works fine or if i use a cable.
[06:01] <apwbdjp> mint_, I'd say your best way is to back up the data from one of the partitions, then delete it, and recreate it as extended. That's how I did it when I had to
[06:01] <segin> erkan^: Downloading random Debian packages from the net is even less trustworthy.
[06:01] <mint_> packetfrog: I need XP for some work-related stuff
[06:02] <segin> erkan^: PPAs may be risky, but the risk is low compared to other sources.
[06:02] <erkan^> ok
[06:02] <erkan^> :/
[06:02] <mint_> apwbdjp: so primary partition cant be changed to have two logical partitions?
[06:03] <mint_> my disk details http://paste.ubuntu.com/5575495/
[06:03] <apwbdjp> mint_, logical paritions can only be inside extended partitions
[06:03] <foobarface> apwbdjp: but mint_ said they didnt' have enough space to store an image of it
[06:04] <mint_> apwbdjp: yeah I dont have backup space. Is there any other way.
[06:04] <apwbdjp> foobarface, true, but yet making a primary partition become extended isn't any more doable, so he'll have to back up in a way or another (And backing up data is less expensive than backing up an entire image)
[06:05] <aeon-ltd> mint_: vm?
[06:05] <EmLeX> Any one here know real quick how you can filter out all sentences in a txt file that starts with a specific word?
[06:05] <holywater_> hi,
[06:05] <holywater_> Is dual boot ubuntu with windows 7 good
[06:05] <mint_> aeon-ltd: no , I need a full installation.
[06:05] <apwbdjp> mint_, I agree with aeon-ltd, a virtual machine might save you. It will also avoid you some trouble with the SATA drivers if WinXP is what you wanna install
[06:05] <holywater_> means i feel littt bit slow on dual boot
[06:06] <mint_> apwbdjp: SATA drivers?
[06:06] <apwbdjp> mint_, some trouble that WinXP has with modern computers, you might get a BSOD during the install
[06:07] <mint_> apwbdjp: thats OK. I think I need to reinstall everything again
[06:09] <segin> bloopletech: Anything so far?
[06:12] <bloopletech> segin: was away, still looking
[06:12] <segin> okay
[06:13] <segin> I'll be away, but my IRC client pops up alerts on highlight.
[06:21] <Bambabamb> hi.
[06:21] <Ntemis> hi
[06:21] <Ntemis> i need some help
[06:21] <Bambabamb> ok.
[06:21] <Ntemis> i created raid5 on /dev/md0
[06:21] <aeon-ltd> ask; in the future don't ask to ask
[06:21] <Ntemis> mounted in home/shares
[06:21] <Ntemis> on reboot error
[06:22] <Ntemis> i connect keyboard to server
[06:22] <Ntemis> it tels me that cant mount
[06:22] <Ntemis> continue manual etc
[06:22] <Ntemis> i continue
[06:22] <Ntemis> now raid has renamed it self to /dev/md127 o.o
[06:22] <Ntemis> wtf
[06:23] <Ntemis> i needed to update grub? that is what i did wrong right?
[06:24] <Ntemis> so how i name it back to md0?
[06:24] <dr_willis_> !enter
[06:25] <dr_willis_> normally grub and the system use the  uuid of a device. not the /dev/XXX name.. but im not sure  how that applys to raid setups.
[06:26] <dr_willis_> sounds like your fstab entry is incorrect
[06:26] <Ntemis> now is
[06:26] <dr_willis_> so this would not  be a grub issue if its just a data drive.  but a fstab problem
[06:26] <Ntemis> is looking for md0
[06:26] <dr_willis_> and your fstab entry for the  device is what exactly?
[06:27] <Ntemis> something like /dev/md0 /home/shares ext4 0 0
[06:27] <Ntemis> why he named my raid array md127
[06:27] <dr_willis_> and you really  should be using the uuid. and not the /dev/md* type name i imagine.
[06:27] <Ntemis> all was ok until i restarted
[06:28] <dr_willis_> I dont use raid. so no idea  why  they  change.
[06:28] <Akiva-Mobile> Anyone want to help me confirm a bug? It should be pretty easy. Open firefox, open two youtube videos, have one paused, and the other one playing, and then click the sound icon to see if the play/pause button is switching continuously on its youtube dialogue.
[06:28] <iceroot> Ntemis: use the UUID instead of /dev/md0
[06:28] <dr_willis_> !uuid | Ntemis
[06:28] <iceroot> Ntemis: mdadm was changing my name too
[06:28] <iceroot> Ntemis: but with UUID i dont have any problems with that
[06:28] <Ntemis> really?
[06:28] <Ntemis> is that a bug
[06:28] <Akiva-Mobile> Before I report it, I just want someone else to confirm it
[06:28] <dr_willis_> Ntemis:  /dev/XXX names can change.. uuid shpuldent.
[06:28] <dr_willis_> shouldent
[06:29] <iceroot> Ntemis: /dev/sda can also change the name to /dev/sdb, because of that we use UUID
[06:29] <iceroot> Ntemis: sudo blkid to get the uuid, use that instead of /dev/xxx
[06:29] <Ntemis> ok so uuid it is
[06:29] <Ntemis> so is dev/uuidnamexxx?
[06:30] <iceroot> Ntemis: UUID=83c95f5a-a171-4079-8a2c-b964dc4c580f /home/michael/storage ext4 errors=remount-ro 0 1
[06:30] <iceroot> Ntemis: that is a RAID 10 /dev/md127p1 device
[06:30] <Ntemis> got it thanks
[06:30] <diverdude> i have installed gnuplot from the repository, and when i try to plot something no plot window is shown. show terminal also says terminal type is unknown. is there a problem with the repository version?
[06:30] <snodo> ftp help, what does entering extended passive mode mean
[06:31] <Ademan> I'm using a USB wifi adapter with my laptop but network manager keeps reporting "disabled by hardware switch" which is true, the hardware switch is off (otherwise my system is unstable), but this does not affect USB devices, and indeed 'rfkill' shows that the USB device is neither hard nor soft blocked. I don't really like wicd, can I convince network-manager to ignore the hardware switch?
[06:31] <zuppy> i use 12.04 on a samsung laptop and since iv done an update i cant connect to my home router via wifi when using wpa2, if i disable encryption it works fine or if i use a cable.
[06:32] <apwbdjp> Ademan, the USB Wifi Adapter should act as another Networking card.. Does it show on iwconfig?
[06:33] <Ademan> apwbdjp: yeah, it appears in network manager as well, it just is unselectable and has the "Disabled by hardware switch" message. I can associate with every AP I've tried using wicd and even ifupdown
[06:34] <iceroot> Ademan: sounds like a bug in network-manager for me but i dont know what the hardware/bios is doing/reporting excactly when the hardware-switch is used
[06:35] <dr_willis_> ive heard some others in here mention that all their wifi cards turned off/failed to work right - if the switch on the laptops built in wifi was off.
[06:35] <iceroot> Ademan: i would suggest to open a bug against network-manager
[06:35] <diverdude> i have installed gnuplot from the repository, and when i try to plot something no plot window is shown. show terminal also says terminal type is unknown. is there a problem with the repository version?
[06:35] <Ademan> iceroot: I agree, I was just kind of hoping there was a work around, since I'm lazy and all, heh
[06:36] <iceroot> Ademan: maybe there is a workaround, i dont know but reporting a bug is always a good idea
[06:36] <Ademan> diverdude: version?
[06:36] <Ademan> iceroot: you're right of course
[06:36] <diverdude> Ademan, 12.10
[06:37] <Ademan> diverdude: can you provide a command I can use to reproduce the issue?
[06:37] <diverdude> Ademan, Linux bdi-ThinkPad-W520 3.5.0-24-generic #37-Ubuntu SMP Thu Feb 7 01:50:30 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[06:37] <mneuro> I am running Xubuntu 12.10 64 bit with Nvidia driver 310 and I'm noticing my performance in games is about half of what I get in Windows.  Is this to be expected?
[06:37] <Ademan> (I don't really know gnuplot)
[06:37] <zuppy> mneuro yeah sounds about right
[06:37] <diverdude> Ademan, well it says Terminal type set to 'unknown'
[06:38] <judahitewarrior7> I currently have Ubuntu 12.10 installed, and I am trying to reinstall Windows XP. I can't install it because my hard drive isn't showing up. Can anyone help me?
[06:38] <diverdude> Ademan, when i load gnuplot
[06:38] <zuppy> mneuro are you using wine
[06:38] <Ademan> diverdude: are you launching from a terminal?
[06:38] <iceroot> mneuro: wine? or steam?
[06:38] <mneuro> zuppy, no.  The same games in both Windows and Linux via steam
[06:38] <diverdude> Ademan, yes
[06:39] <mneuro> One example is Guns of Icarus Online.  30-40 frames per second on full graphics in Windows, 10 frames per second on medium graphics in Ubuntu
[06:39] <iceroot> mneuro: i am getting the same/better performance on GNU/Linux on all source-games, so normally it should not be slower (using an nvidia optimus card)
[06:39] <zuppy> mneuro does that include TF2?
[06:39] <iceroot> mneuro: but i am using the nvidia-driver from the website, not from the repo
[06:39] <mneuro> Killing Floor in Linux is nearly unplayable for me, stutters and freezes constantly.  In windows its flawless on max settings
[06:39] <Ademan> diverdude: how are you invoking gnuplot? (and how are you initiating the plot)
[06:39] <judahitewarrior7> Can anyone help me out?
[06:39] <mneuro> TF2 is stuttery and about half as good as Windows
[06:40] <iceroot> mneuro: i was also facing big differences on intel cards with the driver from the repo and newer drivers from a ppa
[06:40] <diverdude> Ademan, i open a terminal and i write gnuplot
[06:40] <iceroot> mneuro: so i guess its just a driver issue
[06:40] <packetfrog> judahitewarrior7 Do you want to get rid of ubuntu?
[06:40] <mneuro> What driver Should I use if not the one in the repo
[06:40] <Ademan> Killing floor has caused me a few kernel panics, but I'm using the open source ATI drivers so meh
[06:40] <judahitewarrior7> packetfrog: Yes
[06:41] <KingSphinx> mneuro: Did you use the "experimental-310" driver? Or are you using a Radeon graphics card?
[06:41] <packetfrog> judahitewarrior7 Do you have a live usb or dvd/cd of ubuntu still?
[06:41] <Ademan> diverdude: Ok so that brings up the gnuplot prompt right? what do you enter there where you're expecting a plot?
[06:41] <Ntemis> iceroot do i have to remove the " from uuid?
[06:41] <mneuro> experimental-310
[06:41] <judahitewarrior7> packetfrog: Yes
[06:41] <Ntemis> now i have it like this UUID="46273c1f-5095-46c1-9642-2480fdc48f43"
[06:41] <Ntemis> should i remove the ""
[06:41] <Ntemis> ?
[06:41] <zuppy> anyone have any advice about my wifi not connecting to some networks
[06:41] <KingSphinx> mneuro: Did you disable compositing? Even if Xfce is light, compositing will cause a performance hit.
[06:42] <packetfrog> judahitewarrior7 boot the live ubuntu. use gparted to make a new partition table on your harddrive  and format it to fat32   then reboot and install winXP
[06:42] <mneuro> Yes, disabled compositing
[06:42] <iceroot> Ntemis: use it like in my example
[06:42] <iceroot> Ntemis: UUID=83c95f5a-a171-4079-8a2c-b964dc4c580f /home/michael/storage ext4 errors=remount-ro 0 1
[06:42] <Ntemis> you dont have "
[06:42] <Ben64> mneuro: disable multi core rendering
[06:42] <diverdude> Ademan, yes. and when i launch it like that it says terminal type set to unknown as seen: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5575559/. i then try to make a plot by doing plot sin(x) and then nothing happens
[06:42] <mneuro> ?
[06:42] <segin> Does Lubuntu perform compositing by default?
[06:42] <packetfrog> judahitewarrior7 Understand?
[06:43] <Ademan> diverdude: interesting, I plotted sin(x) too... works for me
[06:43] <judahitewarrior7> packetfrog: thank you
[06:43] <Ademan> diverdude: you're on regular ubuntu? or xubuntu?
[06:43] <Ademan> using screen or tmux? over ssh?
[06:43] <diverdude> Ademan, its just standard ubuntu
[06:44] <diverdude> Ademan, and i cannot do set terminal x11
[06:44] <packetfrog> judahitewarrior7 No problem.
[06:44] <diverdude> Ademan, it seems to have problems finding X11
[06:44] <Ademan> diverdude: interesting, try this:     "DISPLAY=:0.0 gnuplot"
[06:45] <Ademan> diverdude: actually, I'm on 12.04 and your version is 0.2 newer than mine, my test may not be valid
[06:45] <diverdude> Ademan, DISPLAY=:0.0 gnuplot => invalida expression
[06:46] <Ademan> diverdude: it's a terminal command, not a gnuplot command
[06:46] <borillion> guys I have debian running off an sdcard and want to configure the fstab, to /dev/mmcblk# how do I know what number to set # as?
[06:47] <Ademan> diverdude: honestly I don't think it will make a difference, because it should already know what the DISPLAY variable is, but it's worth a try I suppose
[06:47] <diverdude> Ademan, ahhh i fixed it
[06:48] <dr_willis_> borillion:  i thunk you may want to use the uuid  not /dev/somthing
[06:48] <Ademan> diverdude: glad to hear it, what'd you do?
[06:48] <diverdude> Ademan, sudo apt-get install gnuplot-x11
[06:48] <dr_willis_> !uuid | borillion
[06:50] <diverdude> Ademan, now my c-api interface also works
[06:50] <borillion> dr_willis the fstab is blank, how do I set this thing up?
[06:50] <borillion> oahh got it bot message :P
[06:51] <borillion> thanks
[07:07] <anuj> hi
[07:07] <bloopletech> segin: hey I finally got it working
[07:07] <segin> okay!
[07:07] <segin> Did you experience the same problem initially, or did it just go?
[07:08] <anuj> I want installed application list with thumbnail in ubuntu
[07:08] <anuj> how can i get this list in a file
[07:08] <bloopletech> segin: I don't know how to configure this in automake, but in the final Makefiles, you have to change the CXXLINK= line to remove $(AM_LDFLAGS), and you have to change the $(CXXLINK) line o add $(AM_LDFLAGS) before $(LIBS)
[07:09] <bloopletech> i.e. the -lxyz arguments have to be after the -o blah blah.cpp arguments
[07:09] <bloopletech> yeah I had the problem you had
[07:10] <anuj> im new to ubuntu please help
[07:10] <bloopletech> So it helps, these are the packages I had to install to satisfy the configure dependencies: libsdl-gfx1.2-dev libvisual-0.4-dev libtag1-dev libmpg123-dev
[07:11] <bloopletech> also: I hope automake is doing something useful for you, because all it seems to be doing is making a giant crappy makefile with tons of stuff that probably never gets used
[07:16] <segin> okay
[07:20] <dr_willis_> !clone | anuj
[07:20] <dr_willis_> anuj:  theres other commands to get a list of instgalled apps also.  i just dont rember them
[07:21] <dr_willis_> no idea what 'with thumbnaill' means  in relation to a text list.
[07:22] <panorain> I need to mount ghostbsd and its been installed on my second hd
[07:22] <panorain> the first harddrive is running grub v 1.98
[07:22] <panorain> lucid lynx ubuntu
[07:23] <panorain> when I installed ghostbsd I did not tick the add bsd bootloader
[07:23] <dr_willis_> anuj some other ways are here --> http://askubuntu.com/search?q=list+of+installed+packages
[07:23] <panorain> I plan to use the grub2 bootloader
[07:23] <dr_willis_> panorain:  mounting is not the same as booting..
[07:23] <goodtime> ha just installed the kde GUI,"plasma"desktop
[07:23] <panorain> how am I able to mount then boot bsd at startup with grub?
[07:23] <dr_willis_> you mount via the /etc/fstab or mount command..  grub configs may pick up the bsd install if you run 'sudo update-grub'
[07:24] <panorain> can i mount with fstab through lucid right now?
[07:24] <dr_willis_> you can mount via mount command or a fstab entry normally
[07:24] <dr_willis_> depending on what filesystem its using
[07:24] <panorain> ext3 filesystem
[07:25] <dr_willis_> then you should be able to accerrss it fine
[07:25] <goodtime> yes panorain
[07:25] <panorain> could you help me with the terminal commands a bit?
[07:25] <dr_willis_> !mount
[07:25] <dr_willis_> sudo mount /dev/sdXX /media/make-a-directory-first
[07:26] <dr_willis_> sdXX is the location of your fs you want to mount. Use sudo blkid to see where its at
[07:26] <panorain> willis what do you mean by make-a-directory first?
[07:26] <goodtime> be careful in the fstab panorain
[07:26] <flintser> goodtime: after i installed plasma, my coldboot time went up almost 20 seconds :) removed it soon afterwards... oh ot >.<
[07:26] <dr_willis_> panorain:  just whata it says.. MAKE A DIRECTORY
[07:26] <dr_willis_> it has to exist befor you mount....
[07:26] <panorain> /dev/fsb1 is loaded with bsd
[07:27] <goodtime> did you do any overclocking flintser?
[07:27] <dr_willis_>  fsb1? that sould be a odd device name
[07:27] <dr_willis_> bsd does not use the same nameing scheme as linux
[07:27] <panorain> sdb1 excuse me
[07:27] <dr_willis_> there ya go then :) mount that puppy!
[07:27] <panorain>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[07:27] <panorain> /dev/sdb1               1        4847    39081672   a5  FreeBSD
[07:27] <flintser> goodtime: i don't do overclocking. why?
[07:27] <panorain> will the mount command stick through reboot?
[07:28] <dr_willis_> panorain:  of course not
[07:28] <panorain> will grub pick it up then?
[07:28] <dr_willis_> grub has NOTHING to do with it.
[07:28] <goodtime> remember every thing including hardware is a file in linux unlike windows
[07:28] <dr_willis_> you asked how to mount the filesystem.
[07:28] <panorain> how can I get mount to stick through a cold boot
[07:28] <oldude67> panorain, if you run sudo update-grub it will
[07:28] <flintser> is grub even able to search partitions from another disk?
[07:28] <dr_willis_> panorain:  thats what the fstab file is all about
[07:28] <panorain> ahh
[07:28] <dr_willis_> that dosent look like a ext3 filesystem to me either.
[07:29] <panorain> will grub pick it up with l-shift on a cold boot then?
[07:29] <goodtime> if you overclock it might mess you up on the output for a differnt GUI
[07:29] <dr_willis_> panorain:  you rerun 'update-grub' and see if its detected
[07:29] <panorain> what does it look like?
[07:29] <dr_willis_> grub dosent scan for the  otehr oss.. the update-grub commands do.. then configure grub
[07:29] <yacc_> I just wonder, what during startup configures ethernet devices? It outputs IP-Config: on the console, and it's really fast, udev does not get even enough time usually to rename the devices, which messes up the /etc/network/interfaces based setup.
[07:29] <goodtime> but the plasma does suck more resourses
[07:30] <goodtime> yes dr_willis_
[07:30] <TakeItEZ> panorain: grep menuent /boot/grub/grub.cfg                to see the grub-entries
[07:30] <goodtime> good advice
[07:30] <peppo> anyone running 12.10 and Chrome and experiencing Flash fullscreen performance issues? (Flash in Chromium and Firefox is OK)
[07:31] <goodtime> hmm might be some bugs
[07:31] <goodtime>  1210
[07:31] <panorain> can I paste in here?
[07:31] <flintser> panorain: !paste
[07:31] <panorain> menuentry 'Ubuntu, with Linux 2.6.32-45-generic' --class ubuntu --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os {
[07:31] <panorain> menuentry 'Ubuntu, with Linux 2.6.32-45-generic (recovery mode)' --class ubuntu --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os {
[07:31] <panorain> menuentry 'Ubuntu, with Linux 2.6.32-44-generic' --class ubuntu --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os {
[07:31] <panorain> menuentry 'Ubuntu, with Linux 2.6.32-44-generic (recovery mode)' --class ubuntu --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os {
[07:31] <flintser> !paste | panorain
[07:31] <panorain> menuentry 'Ubuntu, with Linux 2.6.32-33-generic' --class ubuntu --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os {
[07:31] <FloodBot1> panorain: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:31] <goodtime> paste in the message bar
[07:32] <panorain> menuentry 'Ubuntu, with Linux 2.6.32-45-generic' --class ubuntu --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os {
[07:32] <goodtime> dont flood lol
[07:32] <panorain> menuentry 'Ubuntu, with Linux 2.6.32-45-generic (recovery mode)' --class ubuntu --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os {
[07:32] <panorain> menuentry 'Ubuntu, with Linux 2.6.32-44-generic' --class ubuntu --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os {
[07:32] <panorain> menuentry 'Ubuntu, with Linux 2.6.32-44-generic (recovery mode)' --class ubuntu --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os {
[07:32] <panorain> menuentry 'Ubuntu, with Linux 2.6.32-33-generic' --class ubuntu --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os {
[07:32] <FloodBot1> panorain: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:32] <flintser> !paste | panorain
[07:32] <dr_willis_> time to learn to use a pastebin site dude.
[07:32] <goodtime> yeah
[07:32] <panorain> yeah I need to learn alot
[07:32] <dr_willis_> if you rerun update-grub  it should mention the os's it has found
[07:32] <TakeItEZ> time to learn reading information on his own
[07:32] <flintser> oh ubottu.. forgot it cannot say same thing twice fast
[07:32] <goodtime> go slow
[07:33] <crazyhorse> hey.. what packages should i install to get a java runtime env?
[07:33] <judahitewarrior> I have Ubuntu 12.10. I am trying to reinstall Windows XP. My hard drive does not show up in Windows Setup. I was told to use gparted in Ubuntu Live to  format the hard drive to FAT32. But after formatting to FAT32, the hard drive still does not show up in Windows Setup. Can anyone please help?
[07:33] <goodtime> took me ayear to be a irc pro
[07:33] <dr_willis_> !java | crazyhorse
[07:33] <goodtime> been in irc 15 years now lol
[07:33] <dr_willis_> crazyhorse:  iced tea java is in the repos.
[07:33] <goodtime> well 14
[07:34] <dr_willis_> goodtime:  youre just a kid.. ;)
[07:34] <goodtime> im 43 dude
[07:34] <goodtime> :)
[07:34] <crazyhorse> goodtime:  since 96.. so do i win?
[07:34] <flintser> judahitewarrior: is partition table recognizable by xp? and use ntfs, its better.
[07:34] <crazyhorse> hmmmm 17yrs bam :)
[07:34] <TakeItEZ> take the "mine is longer" please to -offtopic
[07:34] <flintser> fat is for usb thumb drives
[07:34] <goodtime> heh nope 98
[07:34] <goodtime> i miss thought it
[07:35] <judahitewarrior> flintser: No, the hard drive partition does not show up at all in Windows XP setup.
[07:35] <goodtime> i like the maddshark server
[07:35] <goodtime> phazenet
[07:35] <crazyhorse> is there anyway to send sudo requests to another computer for authorisation?
[07:35] <goodtime> etc
[07:35] <goodtime> uh i wouldnt do that crazyhorse
[07:36] <TakeItEZ> !enter | goodtime  and see !ot too
[07:36] <goodtime> unless you wanna be hacked
[07:36] <panorain> so
[07:36] <panorain> sudo mount /dev/sd1 /media/sd1 ?
[07:36] <crazyhorse> goodtime: yeah.. it really depends on the method it uses.. but i need someway of remotly authorising sudo requests
[07:37] <Kartagis> anybody using mixxx?
[07:37] <crazyhorse> walking upto the computer every time.. is a pain
[07:37] <Ntemis> am getting crazy on this
[07:38] <panorain> i best go read more
[07:38] <Ntemis> only root can write on mounted raid
[07:38] <flintser> judahitewarrior: i don't have the time to give extensive support, sorry. but i think http://apcmag.com/how_to_dual_boot_linux_and_windows_xp_linux_installed_first.htm?page=2 can help you, grub hasn't cahnged so much since that was made
[07:38] <panorain> so basically I need to mount
[07:38] <Ntemis> any clues
[07:38] <panorain> update grub
[07:38] <panorain> then?
[07:38] <TakeItEZ> !permissions | Ntemis
[07:38] <Ntemis> but is mounted rw
[07:38] <goodtime> yes panorain
[07:39] <Ntemis> o.o
[07:39] <TakeItEZ> Ntemis: what filesystem?
[07:39] <Ntemis> ext4
[07:39] <panorain> how do I tell what filesystem bsd is installed under?
[07:39] <TakeItEZ> Ntemis: so see ubottu and learn about permissions/ownership and groups
[07:39] <judahitewarrior> flintser: What should I format the hard drive back to, so I can get back into Ubuntu?
[07:40] <flintser> judahitewarrior: you formatted the whole drive? you need to install ubuntu again if you did that, since full format wipes the whole disk clean. you need to shrink the ubuntu and create a new partition for the unused space after that. the guide i linked will help you with that once you have ubuntu back
[07:41] <goodtime> in the fstab i would first format then mount panorain
[07:41] <panorain> I installed bsd through flash drive
[07:41] <goodtime> sweet
[07:42] <panorain> should I have mounted through fstab first?
[07:42] <goodtime> ive never used it
[07:42] <goodtime> format first panorain
[07:42] <goodtime> then mount
[07:43] <flintser> if you have a clean disk now, i suggest you install your xp first and then ubuntu. because it is much easier to do things that way
[07:43] <TakeItEZ> why should he format something where his bsd is on?
[07:43] <flintser> judahitewarrior ^^
[07:43] <panorain> ?
[07:43] <panorain> I used the whole second harddrive to install bsd
[07:43] <panorain> 40 gigs
[07:43] <goodtime> oic i thought it was linux sorry my bad
[07:43] <panorain> install went great
[07:43] <goodtime> nice :)
[07:43] <TakeItEZ> panorain: edit /etc/grub.d/40_custom, add your bsd manually
[07:44] <panorain> no im trying to setup a dual harddrive os boot
[07:44] <Ntemis> TakeItEZ: i did a chmod 777 on mounted link and i can create folder but i cannot delete lost and found folder, is it normal?
[07:44] <iceroot> Ntemis: lost and found directory is a special directory by the file-system, dont try to delete it
[07:44] <goodtime> bbl
[07:45] <Ntemis> thats why it doesnt let me?
[07:45] <TakeItEZ> Ntemis: you shoul dbe able to remove that as root (fsck will recreate it if needed)
[07:45] <panorain> #!/bin/sh
[07:45] <panorain> exec tail -n +3 $0
[07:45] <panorain> # This file provides an easy way to add custom menu entries.  Simply type the
[07:45] <panorain> # menu entries you want to add after this comment.  Be careful not to change
[07:45] <panorain> # the 'exec tail' line above.
[07:45] <FloodBot1> panorain: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:46] <Ntemis> is it normal to have to chmod 777 on a hdd share that i told it to mount it with read/write access
[07:46] <judahitewarrior> flintser: I can't install XP at all because Windows XP isn't recognizing my hard drive
[07:46] <Ntemis> it seems weird to me
[07:46] <panorain> I think i'm in over my head right now
[07:46] <panorain> it's humurous though
[07:47] <panorain> no harm it's fun to learn more
[07:47] <TakeItEZ> panorain: where did you install the bsd-bootloader?
[07:47] <panorain> I did not install a bsd bootloader at all
[07:47] <panorain> I left it unticked
[07:48] <TakeItEZ> panorain: freebsd?
[07:48] <panorain> bsd is on /dev/sdb    /dev/sdb1
[07:48] <panorain> ghostbsd gnome frontend same as bsd
[07:48] <UBshanky> adamk, I know
[07:49] <panorain> gnome 2
[07:49] <panorain> with bsd kernal
[07:49] <flintser> judahitewarrior: do you have ubuntu live-media at hand? run it, mount your hard drive (go in the file manager and click on it if you dont want to do it manually) and and use gparted. you can see your partitions there. if it is true that you formatted your whole hd, reformat it and dont do any partitions in it. then try xp install again and see if it shows up. it is also possible that something is wrong in bios, or xp needs some weird 
[07:50] <flintser> judahitewarrior: also if you can still see the ubuntu in it, you can try to do some grub-fiddling in which i cant help since i sck at it
[07:50] <TakeItEZ> panorain: see http://bit.ly/15mK78C  i'm not sure if that works with your bsd too. add that to the 40_custom file
[07:51] <Guest30941> what is the best linux distro for use with a i7 system using a ssd and a nvidia gtx 670 i thought it was ubuntu but i have a video bug that i cant get fixed and am not sure if ubuntu will be best for me
[07:51] <panorain> the one with the chainloader right?
[07:51] <TakeItEZ> panorain: if you haven't installed a bootloader, you cannot chainload
[07:51] <flintser> Guest30941: did you install any nvidia drivers?
[07:52] <chaz68> Hmmm.  On update-manager I'm getting "The action would require the installation of packages from not authenticated sources."
[07:52] <Guest30941> i used the updater and there was only two drivers selectable in the software center and both were buggy
[07:52] <panorain> I have grub 2 on my primary hd with lucid right now
[07:53] <helmut_> hi
[07:53] <panorain> do I have to have a bootloader on drive 2 for bsd?
[07:53] <TakeItEZ> panorain: if you haven't installed te bsd-bootloader, you cannot chainload
[07:53] <flintser> Guest30941: was it 12.10 ubuntu? if it was you can go to software sources -> additional drivers
[07:53] <panorain> oh
[07:53] <chaz68> Something wrong with the repositories today?
[07:53] <judahitewarrior> flintser: gparted gives me this error: "Error informing the kernel about modifications to partition /dev/sda1 -- Device or resource busy.  This means Linux won't know about any changes you made to /dev/sda1 until you reboot -- so you shouldn't mount it or use it in any way before rebooting."
[07:53] <panorain> I can't use grub on my primary hd to load bsd then ?
[07:54] <panorain> I was reading you could mod grub out
[07:54] <TakeItEZ> panorain: chainload means "1st bootloader (ubuntu-grub2) loads 2nd bootloader (bsd)"
[07:54] <chaz68> Maybe I just need to re-check / refresh updates...
[07:54] <Guest30941> i tried 12.10 but it kept crashing everytime i tried to open diffrent programs and switched to 12.04 and its still buggy
[07:54] <flintser> judahitewarrior: oh sorry! i was completely wrong i see it now, go in the filemanager and unmount the drive.
[07:54] <panorain> ahh
[07:54] <TakeItEZ> panorain: have you seen the 2nd/3rd expamples in the bit.ly link? try the 2nd
[07:54] <flintser> judahitewarrior: you must not mount the drive before gparted >.<
[07:54] <panorain> so put that in my grub now n reinstall bsd with loader?
[07:55] <sahil_> hello
[07:55] <snoopybbt> hello there!
[07:55] <Guest30941> i wasnt able to use any mail programs when i had 12.10 on my system
[07:56] <sahil_> does rsync  work in ubuntu 12.04
[07:56] <judahitewarrior> flintser: You said go in the filemanager and unmount the drive? I can't exactly find what you're talking about.
[07:57] <Guest30941> i installed the ubuntu restricted on both 12.10 and 12.04 neither helped
[07:57] <panorain> im not signed up with that site though
[07:57] <bviktor> so, why doesn't 12.10 save my shortcut settings
[07:58] <bviktor> it randomly reverts a random subset to their defaults
[07:58] <bviktor> after one logout-login, or sometimes two
[07:59] <bviktor> (gnome-control-center)
[07:59] <Guest30941> when i go to system settings details graphics the driver for the graphics is unknown
[08:01] <panorain> takeitez could I use the example from the first link you sent?
[08:01] <panorain> cause I know kernal is in /boot/loader on the newer bsd
[08:01] <TakeItEZ> panorain: try it
[08:01] <panorain> or whatnot I read that
[08:01] <sahil_> hello is rsync terminal dependent??
[08:02] <bviktor> dependent?
[08:02] <panorain> so im gonna add it to my 40 file an save it right
[08:02] <TakeItEZ> sahil_: its a cli-app, yes. use grsync if you want a gui
[08:02] <TakeItEZ> panorain: yes, then "sudo update-grub"
[08:02] <sahil_> i was trying rysnc is the terminal made by elementary team it didnt work
[08:03] <panorain> is says roo hd0 though
[08:03] <panorain> is that gonna work with sbc1?
[08:03] <panorain> or sdb sdb1 excuse me
[08:03] <panorain> do I need to change that?
[08:03] <sahil_> _TakeItEZ oh..i dint know i guess then  rsync is absent perhaps... whats the package name?
[08:04] <TakeItEZ> panorain: use (hd1,1)
[08:04] <TakeItEZ> !info rsync
[08:04] <panorain> set root=(hd0,1,a) ??????
[08:04] <panorain> so
[08:04] <TakeItEZ> panorain: did your bsd use slices?
[08:04] <panorain> no full drive
[08:05] <sahil_> tHNX :)
[08:05] <TakeItEZ> panorain: well, then (hd1,1) ... afaik (hd1,1,a) would be 1st slice. sorry its years ago i last used some bsd-stuff
[08:06] <panorain> so do the hd1,1 ?
[08:06] <TakeItEZ> panorain: you'd better ask that in a bsd-channel
[08:07] <panorain> what am I going to put lucid out of commision?
[08:07] <panorain> could he pop?
[08:07] <panorain> on my next boot?
[08:07] <panorain> I weant fast results here  j/k
[08:07] <Aci> Hi, can someone help with ndiswrapper I have the driver installed, the device is detected but sudo modprobe ndiswrapper does nothing, I've tried different drivers, followed the docs but nothing has worked
[08:08] <panorain> update grub now then
[08:08] <TakeItEZ> panorain: grep menuent /boot/grub/grub.cfg                to see the created grub-entries (don't paste them again, read them)
[08:09] <panorain> ok
[08:09] <panorain> what am I looking for I got 3 bsd entries at the bottom of file
[08:10] <TakeItEZ> panorain: well, so you still have your ubuntu-entries? reboot and test the bsd stuff then, you always may boot back into ubuntu
[08:10] <panorain> 11 menuent in red
[08:10] <panorain> yes this looks promising
[08:10] <TakeItEZ> 11 entries? seems grub has found your bsd now too panorain
[08:10] <panorain> what else am I missing before reinstalling bsd with the bootloader?
[08:10] <ejv> Aci: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ndiswrapper
[08:11] <TakeItEZ> panorain: maybe read the bsd-manual
[08:11] <panorain> I know i'm working on that
[08:11] <panorain> i've been reading since 10 am it now 2 am
[08:11] <panorain> I am slow no doubt
[08:11] <panorain> I really like lucid lynx
[08:11] <TakeItEZ> panorain: if your bsd in freebsd-based, read the freebsd-handbook. its one of the best documentations you can get
[08:12] <panorain> i know
[08:12] <panorain> I will be doing that
[08:12] <ejv> non-ubuntu discussions in #ubuntu-offtopic please, thanks.
[08:12] <panorain> welp
[08:12] <panorain> I think i'm off
[08:12] <panorain> thanks for your help
[08:12] <ejv> !enter | panorain
[08:12] <panorain> very nice of you
[08:15] <Aci> There's no bugs that seem to fit the same problem and the ones that do appear to be for completely different devices with solutions that don't really effect me
[08:16] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[08:16] <ShapeShifter499> does anyone know why when I run virtual box on my ubuntu 12.10 x64 host in another tty x11 session it suddenly has fewer graphic abilities (aero stopped working in windows 7 guest) but when ran normally from the original x11 session started when you log in graphics are fine (aero works in windows 7 guest)?
[08:17] <ShapeShifter499> the command I used is "xinit virtualbox -- :1"
[08:18] <ejv> Aci: file a new bug report and list your hardware; let them decide for you.
[08:19] <ejv> ShapeShifter499: probably best to try #vbox or the vbox-dev mailing list
[08:20] <ejv> ShapeShifter499: oh and https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Bugtracker
[08:22] <ShapeShifter499> ejv, I'll try that thanks
[08:22] <Monotoko> is there a channel for Ubuntu Mobile?
[08:22] <Monotoko> development
[08:23] <ShapeShifter499> Monotoko, #ubuntu-touch
[08:23] <Monotoko> cheers
[08:24] <ejv> Monotoko: future reference: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList
[08:24] <ShapeShifter499> Monotoko, #ubuntu-arm as well
[08:26] <raedov> hello guys
[08:26] <raedov> how can i get blender 2.66 in ubuntu 12.04 ?
[08:29] <ejv> raedov: you can obtain blender via PPA: https://launchpad.net/~irie/+archive/blender
[08:31] <panorain> ok
[08:31] <panorain> I am on my other pc
[08:31] <panorain> I am installing GhostBSD on the second harddrive as I type
[08:33] <sahil_> hello can some bone help in this matter ,i m getting this error while moving content  to a new home location   >.....mv: cannot move `/home' to `/old_home': Device or resource busy
[08:33] <burtonium> raedov: go to blender website and download package from there
[08:34] <burtonium> raedov: and unpack it where you want it to be, you don't need to install it. Just run the binary
[08:34] <ikonia> sahil_: you can copy it - but not move it
[08:34] <ikonia> sahil_: something is using your /home directory, so yo ucan't move it
[08:34] <sahil_> umm may be xchat?? i enabled logging?
[08:34] <ejv> the PPA is going to be the easiest method to support, and will allow for more seamless updates
[08:34] <zetheroo> isn't the Noveau driver for Nvidia gfx chipsets?
[08:35] <ikonia> sahil_: when you login - your user is automatically using /home
[08:35] <one> and the police will lie to throw one in a cage with them
[08:35] <ikonia> one: what ?
[08:35] <raedov> burtonium : thank you so much it works now
[08:36] <sahil_> aww..  cd / && sudo mv /home /old_home && sudo mkdir /home _______  so i have to use cp instead of mv in this command
[08:36] <sahil_> ?
[08:36] <panorain> when is lucid lynx rolling updates finsihed?
[08:36] <burtonium> raedov: np ;)
[08:36] <ikonia> panorain: lucid isnt a rolling release
[08:36] <panorain> oh
[08:36] <ikonia> sahil_: if something is using /home - yes
[08:37] <panorain> TakeITeasy are you there?
[08:37] <sahil_> okey so after copying can i do rm ?
[08:37] <ikonia> sahil_: not if something is using it
[08:37] <ejv> if you completely log out as your normal user, and login directly as root, you could then perform that /mv operation; but that's not recommeded practice here.
[08:38] <sahil_> _ikonika  cp: omitting directory `/home'
[08:38] <sahil_>  :/
[08:38] <ikonia> sahil_: you didn't do -r
[08:38] <ikonia> sahil_: I suggest you man mv and man cp to learn about them before typing them blind
[08:39] <panorain> I am now getting error: unknown filesystem when I try to load bsd in grub
[08:39] <panorain> what should I set the drive in the 40 file to?
[08:39] <sahil_> i followed the  ubuntu wiki :o
[08:40] <ikonia> panorain: what file system are you running on BSD's boot file system
[08:40] <panorain> how can i tell ikonia?
[08:40] <ikonia> panorain: you should know
[08:40] <ikonia> panorain: you installed it
[08:40] <panorain> fdisk -l?
[08:40] <ikonia> panorain: no,
[08:40] <panorain> gparted?
[08:40] <sahil_> _ikonika i am doing this now  ______ cd / && sudo cp -r /home /old_home && sudo mkdir /home
[08:40] <ikonia> panorain: no
[08:41] <ikonia> sahil_: you can't mkdir - you've not removed it
[08:41] <ikonia> sahil_: it already exists
[08:42] <sahil_> _ikonika  it seems umm the command is doing something, anyway i follwed this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving
[08:43] <ikonia> sahil_: you didn't follow that guide - that guide says use mv - you are using cp
[08:43] <ejv> it also says to use rsync
[08:43] <sahil_> i used mv before you said i cant use mv if something is using the disk
[08:43] <panorain> mount
[08:44] <ikonia> sahil_: yeah, so you're not following that guide
[08:44] <panorain> claims /dev/sda1 on / ext4
[08:44] <panorain> ikonia?
[08:44] <ikonia> panorain: is /dev/sda1 your bsd root partition ?
[08:44] <panorain> yes
[08:44] <ikonia> panorain: which one is your ubuntu root partition ?
[08:44] <panorain> nonono
[08:44] <sahil_> _ikonika i used the rsync part...
[08:45] <panorain> /dev/sdb1 is my free bsd drive partition
[08:45] <raedov> guys after add this ppa "xorg-edgers fresh X crack" and update + upgrade then restart the computer i see an improvements with my intel 2000 HD , what does it do , just i want to know
[08:45] <sahil_> _ikonika i am on this part Moving /home into /old_home
[08:45] <ikonia> panorain: right so when I asked "is /dev/sda1 your bsd partition" why did you say "yes"
[08:45] <panorain> sorry
[08:45] <sahil_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving#Moving_.2BAC8-home_into_.2BAC8-old_home
[08:46] <ikonia> panorain: please waste someone elses time
[08:46] <ikonia> panorain: I asked you 3 times
[08:46] <panorain> unknown partition /dev/sdb
[08:46] <ejv> raedov: all PPA's come with a CHANGELOG / README information. Go to the website and it should be listed.
[08:47] <sahil_> _ikonika what you say?
[08:47] <raedov> ejv : yes i see it but still don't understand ! is it new driver or what ?
[08:47] <ikonia> sahil_: what do I say about what ?
[08:48] <ejv> raedov: i'm not familiar with xorg development; for specific questions it would be best to contact them directly.
[08:48] <sahil_> click the link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving#Moving_.2BAC8-home_into_.2BAC8-old_home
[08:48] <ikonia> sahil_: why ?
[08:48] <sahil_> i followed the wiki,i am on this part now,its just the anchored part of the webpage
[08:48] <panorain> please help i'll slow down
[08:49] <ikonia> sahil_: you're changing that page's instructions, so you're not following it
[08:49] <ejv> the best intstructions are the ones you make up!
[08:50] <sahil_> sorry i follwed i tried mv then it said  the device is busy :(
[08:50] <ikonia> sahil_: yes, and I told you why
[08:50] <sahil_> so how should i do then?
[08:50] <ikonia> sahil_: as I told you
[08:51] <sahil_> i am little confused ... can you repeat?
[08:51] <raedov> ejv : thank you , i will ask them
[08:51] <ikonia> sahil_: copy the directory to a spare place, remove the old directory, create a new one
[08:51] <ejv> raedov: im sure they will be happy to hear that it is working well for you, positive feedback is always welcome.
[08:52] <sahil_> _ikonika i guess this this does it right? sudo rsync -aXS --exclude='/*/.gvfs' /home/. /media/home/.
[08:52] <ikonia> sahil_: no
[08:52] <ikonia> sahil_: that is an rsync sync
[08:53] <ikonia> sahil_: that will make a clone of the directory,
[08:53] <Ajca> I'm trying to setup lightdm to auto login to a xbmc session but for some reason autologin only works when I reboot the machine. When I exit XBMC I get to lightdm again which asks for user and password. How can I configure lightdm to autologin all the time (not just for the first login) ?
[08:53] <sahil_> okey then i can copy the content of the clone directory to the new home?
[08:53] <panorain> ikonia i'm sorry
[08:54] <ikonia> sahil_: you're syncing /home to /media/home - that is your new home directory
[08:54] <panorain> mount comes back with only /dev/sda1 on ext4 mounted
[08:54] <ikonia> sahil_: what are you trying to do exactly
[08:54] <ikonia> sahil_: as you seem to be copying a directory, removing the directory then moving it back, which makes no sense
[08:54] <ikonia> sahil_: what exactly do you want to do
[08:54] <ejv> technically it's a new "copy" of his home directory; until he mounts home at that position or sets up a symlink
[08:55] <sahil_> i have made a new partion named home, um now i wish to move my current home to the new home along with all the content
[08:55] <ikonia> sahil_: where is your new partition mounted ?
[08:56] <sahil_> currently there is nothing in the new partion other den lost and found
[08:56] <ikonia> sahil_: where is it mounted
[08:56] <ejv> he's not asking you what's inside of it, he's asking where you access it, it's location
[08:56] <ikonia> sahil_: please answer the questions I ask - nothing else
[08:56] <sahil_> i dont know i havnt assigned
[08:56] <ikonia> sahil_: ok - so this is very simple
[08:56] <ikonia> sahil_: please give me the partition name of your new /home partition
[08:57] <sahil_> Home
[08:57] <ikonia> sahil_: no, that is it's disk device, eg: /dev/sda3
[08:57] <sahil_> /dev/sda7: LABEL="Home" UUID="780e9498-7fd5-42e0-9c3f-40c131ff8d7d" TYPE="ext4"
[08:57] <ikonia> sahil_: ok
[08:57] <ikonia> sahil_: follow these instructions
[08:57] <ejv> mount /dev/sdX1 /mnt/someplace; rsync -av /media/home /mnt/someplace; voila
[08:57] <spm_Draget> COmmandline: I have http_proxy="foo" set, and yet apt-add-repository always says 'could not connect   to host' for http://ppa.launchpad.net/texlive-backports/ppa/ubuntu
[08:58] <ikonia> sahil_: mkdir /tmp/new_home
[08:58] <ikonia> sahil_: confirm when done
[08:58] <sahil_> ok done
[08:58] <spm_Draget> I add to the apt.conf Aquire:http::proxy too, and yet it cannot connect.
[08:58] <ikonia> sahil_: sudo mount /dev/sda7 /tmp/new_home
[08:58] <sahil_> done
[08:59] <ikonia> sahil_: sudo rsync -av /home /tmp/new_home
[08:59] <sahil_> ys its doing something :)
[09:00] <sahil_> rsync error: some files/attrs were not transferred (see previous errors) (code 23) at main.c(1070) [sender=3.0.9
[09:00] <ikonia> sahil_: please confirm when it's done
[09:00] <sahil_> _ikonika done ent 1292483685 bytes  received 165825 bytes  55006362.13 bytes/sec
[09:00] <sahil_> total size is 1291694175  speedup is 1.00
[09:00] <sahil_> rsync error: some files/attrs were not transferred (see previous errors) (code 23) at main.c(1070) [sender=3.0.9]
[09:01] <ejv> sahil_: most likely you have files in use, may be locked, not a big deal
[09:01] <ikonia> sahil_: you can run sudo rsync -aXS --exclude='/*/.gvfs' /home/. /tmp/new_home
[09:01] <number-7> i have this usb wifi stick and need help to get it to wwork on ubuntu...
 <number-7> its a belkin n150
 <number-7> model F9L1001v1
 <number-7> tiny little stick
 <number-7> with a light on it that doesnt glow with ubuntu
[09:01] <FloodBot1> number-7: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:01] <spm_Draget> apt-add-repository uses https. Adding a config for https proxy did solve things
[09:01] <TakeItEZ> "sent 1292483685 bytes  received 165825 bytes"  <- not a abig deal? most files are missing
[09:02] <sahil_> should i used that command now?
[09:02] <ikonia> sahil_: you're welcome to do so to verify all is copied fine
[09:02] <ejv> TakeItEZ: 1292483685 bytes is 1.2Gb transferred.
[09:03] <sahil_> _ikonika done well no output or log is displayed...
[09:03] <ikonia> sahil_: enter the directory /tmp/new_home - look around, make sure it all looks good,
[09:03] <sahil_> sahil@Cryptospy:~$ sudo rsync -aXS --exclude='/*/.gvfs' /home/. /tmp/new_home
[09:03] <sahil_> sahil@Cryptospy:~$
[09:04] <sahil_> ok
[09:04] <ikonia> sahil_: if you want to be really sure just do this "sudo cp -Rp /home /tmp/new_home
[09:04] <Kurdistan> Hi I really hope the idea of rolling release and LTS will be reality. Rolling release that support last point release of every libreoffice would be best instead of supporting every LO release. For beginning of every new LO it is a bit buggy. It shapes well in the last point release of a release.
[09:04] <ikonia> Kurdistan: that's not a support question
[09:04] <Kurdistan> ikonia, were can I discussion this?
[09:05] <sahil_> _ikonika  sahil@Cryptospy:~$ sudo cp -Rp /home /tmp/new_home
[09:05] <sahil_> cp: cannot stat `/home/sahil/.gvfs': Permission denied
[09:05] <ikonia> Kurdistan: #ubuntu-discuss ? #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:05] <ikonia> sahil_: that's ok
[09:05] <ejv> sahil_: if you want more stdout data you can use additional rsync flags like --verbose, --progress, --stats, and --log-file=<target>; you'd do well to read the rsync documentation.
[09:05] <ikonia> sahil_: don't worry about that directory, we don't care
[09:05] <Kurdistan> ikonia, thx.
[09:06] <sahil_> well you seems most busy person, i am very thank full to have your time :)
[09:06]  * ejv taps the mic, is this thing on?
[09:06] <sahil_> ok what should i do now?
[09:06] <ikonia> sahil_: it's fine, just pay attention to what others like ejv and TakeItEZ have said
[09:06] <j0d3> hi
[09:06] <sahil_> ya sure
[09:07] <ikonia> sahil_: ok - so does /tmp/new_home look like it has your data in ?
[09:07] <sahil_> well i can now see data in my home partion
[09:08] <sahil_> partition*
[09:08] <sahil_> three folders home,lost+found and sahil
[09:08] <ikonia> sahil_: look in /var/new_home/home
[09:08] <ikonia> sahil_: do you see all your data
[09:09] <TakeItEZ>  /tmp/new_home*
[09:09] <ikonia>  /tmp/new_home/home
[09:09] <ikonia> sorry
[09:09] <ikonia> thank you TakeItEZ
[09:09] <number-7> i have a problem getting my usb wifi stick to work in ubuntu, its a belkin n150 model F9L1001v1
[09:09] <sahil_> ya
[09:10] <ikonia> sahil_: ok - so lets get it mounted, then we'll tidy up
[09:10] <number-7> what do i do?
[09:10] <ikonia> sahil_: look in the file /etc/fstab, do you see the line that shows your current /home directory and it's partition identifier ?
[09:10] <sahil_> so i cut paste manually?
[09:10] <Ben64> number-7: get a new wifi card?
[09:11] <sahil_> i edited fstab and added the uuid ..
[09:11] <ikonia> sahil_: can you please show me the line in your /etc/fstab
[09:11] <number-7> it works fine in windows 7
[09:11] <sahil_> ok
 i have a problem getting my usb wifi
[09:13] <sahil_> UUID=780e9498-7fd5-42e0-9c3f-40c131ff8d7d   /home    ext3          nodev,nosuid       0       2
[09:13] <sahil_> UUID=780e9498-7fd5-42e0-9c3f-40c131ff8d7d   /home    ext4          nodev,nosuid       0       2
[09:14] <number-7> i have a problem getting my usb wifi stick to work in ubuntu,
[09:14] <number-7> its a belkin n150 model F9L1001v1
[09:15] <jpds> number-7: Right, best thing to do is return it, and find one that works.
[09:15] <number-7> it work fine on windows 7
[09:15] <number-7> and XP
[09:15] <jpds> number-7: Of course it does!
[09:16] <jpds> number-7: It was made by Belkin to work on them.
[09:16] <number-7> well... DUH
[09:17] <Ben64> http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?p_id=8072
[09:17] <number-7> so what do you think i should do?
[09:17] <Ben64> $7.44 and works out of the box with ubuntu
[09:17] <sahil_> _ikonika you there?
[09:17] <number-7> oooo
[09:18] <number-7> with ubuntu 8.10 ?
[09:18] <Ben64> ....
[09:18] <TakeItEZ> sahil_: remove the line with "ext3" or put a comment-sign # in front
[09:18] <Ben64> don't use 8.10
[09:18] <number-7> only cd i got
[09:18] <Ben64> upgrade
[09:18] <Ben64> download a new cd
[09:18] <sahil_> okey
[09:19] <jpds> number-7: You do realize that 8.10 is no longer supported?
[09:19] <sahil_> _takeitez done
[09:19] <Ben64> hasn't been supported since April of 2010
[09:19] <jpds> number-7: That could be your problem right there, try the wifi USB with a newer release.
[09:21] <packetfrog> How to hax planet?
[09:21] <TakeItEZ> sahil_: _i'd do_ "sudo umount /tmp/new_home" then logout from X, login at console (alt-ctrl-f1), there "cd /tmp" "sudo mv /home /old_home && sudo mkdir /home && sudo mount /home" then "cd; pwd"
[09:21] <packetfrog> ubuntu command please
[09:21] <ikonia> packetfrog: grow up please
[09:21] <ikonia> packetfrog: this is a support channel
[09:21] <packetfrog> support me in hax planet
[09:21] <ikonia> packetfrog: enough - last warning
[09:21] <packetfrog> oooo
[09:22] <packetfrog> I no hax planet :(
[09:22] <MindSpark> what is hax planet?
[09:22] <packetfrog> Off topic.
[09:22] <jpds> packetfrog: http://www.code.org
[09:22] <packetfrog> this is a ubuntu support channel.
[09:22] <packetfrog> !!! Thanks be to you jpds ;)
[09:23] <sahil_> _takeitez so doing from x wont give me this error mv: cannot move `/home' to `/old_home/home': Device or resource busy
[09:23] <number-7> wow, that  Monoprice thing is so tiny, lol
[09:24] <MindSpark> ok, peeps, here is one for you. Not necessarily on linux (I am currently on a mac), but I guess you could help me out. Our internal DNS servers are pretty bad, they lock me out of hte internet quite often, so I decided to switch to openDNS. However there are a couple of hosts that are resolved internally with a local domain. Is it possible to kind of set certain hosts to be looked up using specific DNS and the rest on the default one?
[09:24] <TakeItEZ> sahil_: you cannot mv /home while logged in in X, there are files open. "pwd" should give you "/home/sahil" then
[09:25] <Ben64> MindSpark: you could just put them in /etc/hosts
[09:25] <ejv> MindSpark: yup, there is.
[09:25] <ikonia> MindSpark: you know the rules
[09:25] <ikonia> MindSpark: we support ubuntu here
[09:25] <Ben64> oh mac, i just skimmed the question heh
[09:25] <sahil_> _takeitez i need to log out first right?
[09:25] <ejv> i love yes/no questions, my favorite!
[09:25] <TakeItEZ> sahil_: yes
[09:25] <TakeItEZ> sahil_: _i'd do_ "sudo umount /tmp/new_home" then logout from X, login at console (alt-ctrl-f1), there "cd /tmp" "sudo mv /home /old_home && sudo mkdir /home && sudo mount /home" then "cd; pwd"
[09:26] <TakeItEZ> sahil_: in that order
[09:26] <MindSpark> Ben64: I tried that, but that doesn't help. Because apache on that specific host simply does not know how it's called (the hostname is not sent)
[09:26] <MindSpark> so it doesn't open the right page, if that makes any sense
[09:27] <Ben64> MindSpark: thats why this is an ubuntu channel
[09:27] <sahil_> okey lets give it a shot
[09:27] <number-7> how do i load windows 3.1?
[09:27] <MindSpark> hmmm… sorry about that. Back in my times, linux people were kind of interested in anything related to OS/computers
[09:28] <smokie> hey guys, im trying to run something that requires ruby, when i run it, its giving me this msg: Redmine requires Bundler 1.0.21 (you're using 1.0.15). Please install a newer version with `gem install bundler`.
[09:28] <MindSpark> guess thngs have changed in the last 10 years or so
[09:28] <MindSpark> things*
[09:28] <smokie> does anyone know how to maybe restart gem or ruby?
[09:28] <MindSpark> is ruby ubuntu?
[09:28] <number-7> and doenst ubuntu come with wine?
[09:29] <bloopletech> So I finally got my ****** blank screen after login problem fixed
[09:29] <MindSpark> bloopletech: you running compiz?
[09:29] <MindSpark> must've been the cache dir, huh?
[09:29] <airos> hello anyone know how to remove banner from ssh server? in sshd_config I have put "none" on Banner, But when I'm logging in, I see: Welcome to Ubuntu 12.10 (GNU/Linux 3.5.0-25-generic i686)
[09:29] <airos> * Documentation:  https://help.ubuntu.com/
[09:30] <crazyhorse> i'm finding chromium on ubuntu is very "sluggish"
[09:30] <crazyhorse> and crashes constantly
[09:30] <crazyhorse> is it shit for everyone else too?
[09:30] <bloopletech> The first problem is that the /etc/alternatives script for the libgl1-mesa-glx package got run, which adds a symlink in /etc/ld.so.conf.d/ that points to the mesa libGL.so.
[09:30] <smokie> MindSpark, what do you mean?
[09:30] <ejv> MindSpark: there's always #linux and #ubuntu-offtopic / #ubuntu-discuss; good luck to you.
[09:31] <bloopletech> So any process that tried to use libgl.so tried to use software mode when the nvidia driver was already running and so it barfed all over itself
[09:31] <MindSpark> ejv: here's the thing, hadn't I mentioned "mac", noone would have even noticed
[09:31] <ejv> MindSpark: lesson learned.
[09:31] <MindSpark> smokie: nevermind...
[09:31] <Ben64> except when it didn't work
[09:31] <Ben64> because macs are weird
[09:32] <MindSpark> alright, so I have this ubuntu box… ;)
[09:32] <MindSpark> and I am trying to set DNS up
[09:32] <Ben64> nope
[09:32] <MindSpark> thought so. machines
[09:32] <bloopletech> Fixing that got me a desktop background only after login
[09:32] <crazyhorse> anyone else use chromium? it's pretty unusable.. i'm just on 12.04, blank install
[09:32] <packetfrog> MindSpark  They answered your question either way.
[09:33] <bloopletech> A couple of hours later, it turns out the reason there's no unity shell is because... the unity shell plugin is disabled!
[09:33] <MindSpark> packetfrog: who did?
[09:33] <bloopletech> I can only assume that when unity wouldn't start because of the opengl problem, compiz preventatively disabled the unityshell plugin
[09:33] <number-7>  how do i load ubunto and XP on the same comp?
[09:33] <bloopletech> GRARGH
[09:33] <bloopletech> there. Now I feel better
[09:34] <ejv> MindSpark: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BIND9ServerHowto
[09:34] <bloopletech> crazyhorse: I use google chrome and it's pretty fast usually
[09:34] <bloopletech> crazyhorse: what are your system specs?
 MindSpark: you could just put them in /etc/hosts
[09:34] <Ben64> !dualboot | number-7
[09:34] <MindSpark> packetfrog: and I replied to that, because that won't work
[09:35] <MindSpark> ejv: so installing bind on the client is my only option?
[09:35] <lordcyfer> Hello everybody
[09:35] <packetfrog> MindSparj /private/etc/hosts  mac equiv
[09:35] <bloopletech> MindSpark, what's the issue?
[09:35] <Ben64> MindSpark, packetfrog, bloopletech: its a mac issue, doesn't belong in #ubuntu
[09:35] <bloopletech> I'm sure it doesn't
[09:35] <MindSpark> I am in a network that has some hosts configured to run internally using a domain that only resolves on the local dns
[09:36] <MindSpark> however this dns is quite bad and keeps dropping every few minutes, and I decided to use open dns instead
[09:36] <MindSpark> but now, these internal hosts are not being resolved
[09:36] <packetfrog> Cant you just add those ones in specifically
[09:36] <MindSpark> packetfrog: are you still talking about /etc/hosts
[09:36] <MindSpark> ?
[09:36] <lordcyfer> I need to list of packages use for the keyboard mapping for the desktop environment ? I am doing a very light automatic install.
[09:37] <bloopletech> And the clients or the servers are linux boxes >_> ?
[09:37] <sahil> _takeitez still showing device busy :
[09:37] <packetfrog> So you are using opendns now?
[09:38] <MindSpark> bloopletech: some are linux, some are others
[09:38] <packetfrog> and it says what when trying to resolve a local host?
[09:38] <MindSpark> packetfrog: yes, I am
[09:38] <MindSpark> packetfrog: it routes me to the opendns search page
[09:39] <ejv> MindSpark: I'm going to be the voice of profressional reason here and say that if you're using company equipment, it's a bad idea to start circumventing their DNS. Tread carefully.
[09:39] <MistahSpooky> yo
[09:39] <packetfrog> Why cant you just add the specific IP's in the host files?
[09:40] <MindSpark> packetfrog: I am not sure how familiar you are with webservers, but is I set a virtualhost myserver.bla on an internal webserver and it doesn't point to the docroot, then browsing to that server using the ip won't show the page you're looking for
[09:40] <ejv> MindSpark: That being said, if you could find a local linux platform, you could probably use something like Dnsmasq to configure a DNS forwarder for your $HARDWARE.
[09:40] <MistahSpooky> im having trouble with usb mounting
[09:40] <packetfrog> hmm
[09:40] <crazyhorse> bloopletech: australian?
[09:40] <TakeItEZ> MistahSpooky: you don't browse them by ip
[09:40] <cute_walker> hi,  how can i set up a 6over4 tunel?
[09:40] <TakeItEZ> MindSpark: ^^ sry MistahSpooky
[09:41] <MistahSpooky> haha
[09:41] <Guest41676> Hi
[09:41] <MindSpark> TakeItEZ: I could if I know the directory structure...
[09:41] <cute_walker> which tools or packages should i use ?
[09:41] <TakeItEZ> MindSpark: if you add them to hosts-file, you just access them by hostname as usual
[09:41] <MindSpark> ejv: why do you think it's a bad idea?
[09:42] <TakeItEZ> MindSpark: thats the matter of the hosts-file
[09:42] <Guest41676> I need help with running Ubuntu inside VirtualBox on Windows 8. Can anybody assist?
[09:42] <MindSpark> TakeItEZ:  please read my last message to packetfrog
[09:42] <Jeeves_moss> Guest41676, what did you do?
[09:42] <TakeItEZ> MindSpark: well, seems you aren't very familiar how hostnames are resolved
[09:42] <MistahSpooky> on windows 8? hhhmmmmm
[09:43] <Jeeves_moss> MistahSpooky, you should try it.  it's annoying
[09:43] <MindSpark> TakeItEZ: maybe. But it's still not what I need
[09:43] <packetfrog> MindSpark How else do you connect to the webserver if not ip?
[09:43] <TakeItEZ> MindSpark: your webserver uses vhosts by hostname, you access them by hostname, so what is your problem?
[09:43] <Guest41676> I installed 12.10 inside VirtualBox and rebooted. The system started. I see X-screen. I do not see any login prompt/window.
[09:43] <panorain> TakeItEZ can I ask you another question?
[09:43] <packetfrog> Two cans and a string? :)))
[09:43] <MistahSpooky> yeah ived tried messing with it but i dont like it...nor do i like the gnome3
[09:44] <Jeeves_moss> Guest41676, do you have network access to the vbox?  if so, shell in
[09:44] <ejv> MindSpark: worst case scenario, someone breaks into that system, and starts DNS spoofing / poisoning systems within your workplace. Pink slips hilarity follows.
[09:44] <Guest41676> I do not know. How can I check?
[09:44] <MistahSpooky> Jeeves_moss they want a program that can do it for them im assuming
[09:44] <panorain> should the insmod in the 40_custom grub file be set   zfs  for filesystem ?
[09:45] <Jeeves_moss> Guest41676, please tag your reply to me so I see it.  And how did you set up the networking?  NATed, or direct?
[09:45] <MindSpark> TakeItEZ: alright, I'll try to explain this again. Maybe I wasn't very clear. So there's a local webserver. It has some running sites, I don't know how this server is set up internally. I.e. I don't have info on virtualhosts and so on. If I connect to that server using ip, I will be sent to document root, and to none of the virtual hosts...
[09:46] <MistahSpooky> yo Jeeves how do you tag
[09:46] <TakeItEZ> MindSpark: read from my lips: you don't access that host by IP!
[09:46] <Jeeves_moss> MindSpark, go look in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/
[09:46] <TakeItEZ> MindSpark: http://weird-srever.local
[09:46] <Guest41676> to <Jeeves_moss>: I used directions from couple of sites. Neither of them  said a word about network configuration. I used default.
[09:46] <MindSpark> TakeItEZ: good, so I access it by hostname?
[09:46] <Jeeves_moss> MistahSpooky, if you start to type my name, and hit tab, it should auto fill.  Otherwise, add my name, and a ,
[09:46] <TakeItEZ> MindSpark: that is why you should add it to hosts-file
[09:47] <MindSpark> oh god
[09:47] <Touhou11> panorain: That just means it's loading support for the zfs filesystem as a kernel module afaik
[09:47] <TakeItEZ> MindSpark: 1.2.3.4  my.server1.local my.server2.local
[09:47] <MistahSpooky> nive
[09:47] <Jeeves_moss> Guest41676, sorry then, I'm not sure.  Do you have the URLs to hte "howtos" handy?
[09:47] <MindSpark> TakeItEZ: what does the hosts file do?
[09:47] <MistahSpooky> nice
[09:47] <jpds> MindSpark: Yeah, you'll have to add it to the hosts file to trick it into thinking you're coming in from the domain.
[09:47] <MindSpark> internally it just translates some name to some ip address
[09:47] <Jeeves_moss> MindSpark, it translates host names into IPs locally (not DNS)
[09:47] <TakeItEZ> MindSpark: if you dont even know that, why do you refuse to accept that solution?
[09:47] <Ben64> why are we filling the chat with mac support now?
[09:47] <panorain> Touhou11 should I add zfs after insmod?
[09:48] <MindSpark> Ben64: meanwhile I switched to ubuntu ;)
[09:48] <Ben64> lies
[09:48] <MistahSpooky> Ben64, mac and windows
[09:48] <Ben64> take it somewhere else
[09:48] <TakeItEZ> MindSpark: well you got what you need, goodbye
[09:48] <Jeeves_moss> TakeItEZ, be nice.
[09:48] <Touhou11> panorain: Depends if you're using ZFS or not
[09:48]  * packetfrog tips his cap to TakeItEZ 
[09:48] <MistahSpooky> Ben64, hahaha
[09:48] <packetfrog> Your awesome :)
[09:49] <panorain> Touhou11 I am setting up GhostBSD which uses BSD 9 zfs
[09:49] <MindSpark> Ben64: hehe, I was lying about the mac earlier on too :P
[09:49] <Guest41676> to <jeeves_moss>: I looked at http://askubuntu.com/questions/187424/install-windows-7-through-virtual-box-in-ubuntu-12-04   and     http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/virtualbox
[09:49] <MistahSpooky> anyways ubuntu suddenly stopped mounting my usb or cd's
[09:49] <MistahSpooky> anyone had that problem
[09:50] <panorain> Or at least I believe it does at this point
[09:50] <MistahSpooky> ever since an update it went wakko
[09:50] <MindSpark> TakeItEZ: just for your info. Your "solution" does not work. Because I tried it before I even got in here
[09:50] <MindSpark> now take it ez
[09:51] <panorain> there is a set root=(.....) under the insmod line what device should be added?
[09:51] <panorain> would it be the drive output of sudo fdisk -l ?
[09:51] <MistahSpooky> panorian, is that directed at me?
[09:51] <packetfrog> MistahSpooky what version
[09:51] <MistahSpooky> packetfrog, 12.04
[09:52] <panorain> if you could help MistahSpooky that would be great
[09:52] <l057c0d3r> sorry just joined what is MistahSpooky problem/question
[09:52] <MistahSpooky> panorain, thing is it reads it in disk util but wont mount
[09:53] <tcarter> is there any way to get a libc++ clang (not libstdc++) in 12.10 or 13.04 without recompiling clang from scratch?
[09:53] <panorain> yes MistahSpooky I am having a mounting issue with the drive containing BSD
[09:54] <TakeItEZ> MindSpark: for your info: its a mac-issue then, it works fine with linux
[09:54] <MistahSpooky> panorain, you are? or am i? hahaha im having issues with that too
[09:54] <MindSpark> TakeItEZ: then you still do not understand my problem
[09:54] <panorain> no I am having problems I am a noob who needs to chill
[09:55] <MistahSpooky> panorain, haha what ubuntu are you runnin?
[09:55] <panorain> MistahSpookey are you setting up GhostBSD on a seperate drive from Ubuntu?
[09:55] <panorain> I am running Lucid Lynx 10.04
[09:55] <MistahSpooky> panorain, no i used dd to flash the iso to the thumb drive
[09:56] <panorain> yes I have the image on a thumb drive myself MistahSpookey
[09:56] <panorain> MistahSpookey I have installed GhostBSD on an individual hd
[09:56] <MistahSpooky> panorain, check if it shows up in disk utility
[09:57] <MistahSpooky> panorain, if it does then you might be able to mount it from there
[09:57] <panorain> It does show up but with unknown filesystem MistahSpooky
[09:57] <l057c0d3r> ok i think i understand now.. so you have a volume that has a bsd on it.. and you can't get it to mount
[09:57] <l057c0d3r> correct??
[09:57] <MistahSpooky> panorain, and why are you running 10.04? its not supported anymore
[09:58] <bviktor> just upgrade to 13.04 rofl
[09:58] <bviktor> it's sooooo stable
[09:58] <panorain> well Mistah Spookey I didn't like 12.04 enough to swap out quite yet
[09:58] <l057c0d3r> bviktor, i myself dont mind 12.10 with gnome
[09:58] <l057c0d3r> and a but load of extensions to fix it so it feels like a better system...
[09:59] <MistahSpooky> panorain, you know you can install 12.04 or 12.10 and install gnome panel so it looks like 10.04
[09:59] <bviktor> yeah, i love those random error reports
[09:59] <l057c0d3r> and caior dock to fill in the gaps
[09:59] <bviktor> and i also love the way it asks me for my sysadmin password and then my wifi password just because i move out of range
[09:59] <panorain> I did not know that MistahSpooky
[09:59] <bviktor> and i also love how the networkmanager guys explain why it's perfectly fine for me (even though it is NOT)
[10:00] <MistahSpooky> panorain, yeah thats what i use i dont like unity verry much,,,,go figure
[10:00] <l057c0d3r> bviktor, sounds like a setting issue. because mine never ask me for network password
[10:00] <bviktor> no it's not a setting
[10:00] <MistahSpooky> bviktor, ahahahaha
[10:00] <bviktor> it's a known bug
[10:00] <panorain> I do not like unity alot either MistahSpooky
[10:00] <l057c0d3r> panorain, unity uses compiz.. not a fan of compiz
[10:00] <bviktor> http://askubuntu.com/questions/67500/how-to-disable-notification-from-network-manager
[10:00] <bviktor> https://mail.gnome.org/archives/networkmanager-list/2011-March/msg00214.html
[10:00] <bviktor> etc
[10:01] <l057c0d3r> the new gnome3 has a fallback mode that looks and acts a lot like gnome2 did.. but i believe it uses compiz as well..
[10:01] <MistahSpooky> panorain, anyway we should help you with your mounting problem
[10:01] <TakeItEZ> !ringtail | bviktor 13.04 is not scope of this channel, your rants pls to +1
[10:01] <panorain> 1057c0d3r I tend to agree with you about Compiz
[10:01] <MistahSpooky> i despise gnome3
[10:01] <l057c0d3r> however gnome-shell is not bad.. u can add a few extensions to make it just like gnome2 was... or even make it better
[10:01] <bviktor> wtf
[10:01] <panorain> MistahSpooky that would be awesome
[10:01] <bviktor> it bugs in 12.10 and 12.04 too
[10:01] <bviktor> so thank you but no thank you
[10:01] <packetfrog> MistakSpook use dconf-editor  org.gnome.desktop.media-handling    there should be an automount key there   make sure its set to true?
[10:02] <l057c0d3r> bviktor, well if your using unity it could be..
[10:02] <l057c0d3r> i dont havent and wont use it
[10:02] <MistahSpooky> packetfrog, help out panorain with the mounting of the hd
[10:02] <bviktor> l057c0d3r, lemme tell you, network-manager is not a unity thing
[10:02] <bviktor> but i'm pretty sure you're aware
[10:02] <bviktor> just trying to let me down with your pre-cooked answers
[10:03] <MistahSpooky> packetfrog, ima check it out
[10:03] <bviktor> the network-manager list message is back from 2011, go figure
[10:03] <packetfrog> whats his problem
[10:03] <panorain> hi packetfrog
[10:03] <bviktor> my problem is "defective by design", not that i expect a change, just hopelessly complaining
[10:03] <bviktor> :)
[10:03] <panorain> I would like to try and mount a second harddrive that I installed GhostBSD on
[10:04] <packetfrog> But it is zfs and not recognized
[10:04] <MistahSpooky> packetfrog, im not too good with mounting issues haha
[10:04] <panorain> packetfrog why doesn't lucid lynx recognize zfs?
[10:04] <panorain> for that matter I want my next distro using zfs
[10:04] <l057c0d3r> have you tried sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/hdd -a
[10:04] <jpds> panorain: Because it's too old for that?
[10:04] <l057c0d3r> or sdab
[10:05] <MistahSpooky> jpds, and not supported
[10:05] <SwedeMike> panorain: http://zfsonlinux.org/ ZFS on linux isn't really something that is done the same way things are usually done on linux, mostly due to licensing problems.
[10:05] <TakeItEZ> panorain: you'd need grub-1.99 at least
[10:05] <lordcyfer> @panorain use this ZFS support https://launchpad.net/~zfs-native/+archive/stable
[10:06] <lordcyfer> It is just great
[10:06] <lordcyfer> perfect stable
[10:06] <panorain> well 1057c0d3r my BSD drive is labeled /dev/sdb  /dev/sb1
[10:06] <lordcyfer> the defaul frequency of auto snapshot is too high
[10:06] <MistahSpooky> packetfrog, thanks that helped with my automount issue
[10:06] <panorain> I am running grub 1.99
[10:06] <packetfrog> panorain http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1320657
[10:06] <packetfrog> MistahSpooky Glad :)
[10:06] <SwedeMike> panorain: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZFS#Linux
[10:07] <MistahSpooky> the ubuntu community is great haha
[10:07] <packetfrog> panorain That link shows how to add zfs repo and instal zfs software to deal with your drive.
[10:07] <lordcyfer> DOn't use ZFS fuse
[10:07] <packetfrog> MistahSpooky except the lame ops.
[10:07] <lordcyfer> There is a native support
[10:08] <lordcyfer> https://launchpad.net/~zfs-native/+archive/stable
[10:08] <smokie> anyone here can help me out with installing a certain version of Bundler using Gem?
[10:08] <MistahSpooky> i find it funny theres a thousand users but only 10 talking
[10:08] <smokie> would really appriciate the help
[10:08] <MistahSpooky> packetfrog, ops?
[10:08] <packetfrog> Channel moderators/operators
[10:08] <lordcyfer> @MistahSpooky they fall asleep on there keyboard
[10:09] <packetfrog> I like how there are a lot of them that wont actually help anyone but they will yell at everyone about stupid things.
[10:09] <panorain> Thanks alot I think I need to do some reading now
[10:09] <packetfrog> :D
[10:10] <MistahSpooky> packetfrog, this is the first time using irc, most of the time i figure it out myself or find some old post on a closed forum
[10:10] <packetfrog> panorain  goto command line and type zfs and hit enter
[10:10] <MistahSpooky> lordcyfer, ha all 1000?
[10:10] <panorain> ok
[10:10] <packetfrog> MistahSpooky IRC was awesome. ten years ago.
[10:10] <Zorton> who likes what for MTA's nowdays? Postfix? Spam filtering? DSPAM or SpamAssasian?
[10:11] <lordcyfer> @MistahSpooky you don't hear them snoring ;-)
[10:11] <panorain> should I  sudo apt-get install zfs-fuse?
[10:11] <crazyhorse> my launcher bar disappeared.. how do i get it back?
[10:11] <MistahSpooky> lordcyfer so does your name mean you rap or what
[10:11] <packetfrog> crazyhorse what version?
[10:11] <crazyhorse> 12.04
[10:11] <lordcyfer> @Zorton  My setting is dovecot + postfix
[10:11] <packetfrog> crazyhorse unity? gnome? kde? xfce? :P
[10:12] <MistahSpooky> crazyhorse, did use mess with gnome tweeak
[10:12] <crazyhorse> packetfrog: whatever the default is
[10:12] <panorain> packetfrog should I install the zfs-fuse?
[10:12] <crazyhorse> no
[10:12] <packetfrog> panorain if you typed in zfs on command line and it is installed you can use that.
[10:12] <lordcyfer> @panorain fuse is a toy
[10:13] <crazyhorse> fixed it.. went into settings
[10:13] <l057c0d3r> crazyhorse did you install binary video card drivers
[10:13] <panorain> lordcyfer what do you mean 'toy' will it work?
[10:13] <packetfrog> https://groups.google.com/a/zfsonlinux.org/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/zfs-discuss/JGNYD2cl1h8
[10:13] <crazyhorse> turned some autohid on/autohide off
[10:13] <crazyhorse> and it reset itself
[10:13] <crazyhorse> and showed up
[10:13] <MistahSpooky> nice
[10:13] <panorain> SON
[10:13] <AciD`> hi
[10:13] <MistahSpooky> yo
[10:13] <lordcyfer> Fuse is a layer to mount filesystem in user environment
[10:14] <t-mart> panorain: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:zfs-native/stable; sudo apt-get install zfs-linux
[10:14] <MistahSpooky> packetfrog, so its not like it used to be?
[10:14] <lordcyfer> You have this implementation : https://launchpad.net/~zfs-native/+archive/stable
[10:14] <lordcyfer> Wich is great
[10:14] <AciD`> do you know any apps that can open ics calendar properly, apart from ligthning and korganizer ?
[10:14] <lordcyfer> i handke around 12 To of HD with it
[10:14] <packetfrog> panorain Go with t-mart :P
[10:14] <l057c0d3r> t-mart don't forget the sudo apt-get update before install
[10:14] <lordcyfer> To backup all my network
[10:14] <lordcyfer> it is native
[10:14] <lordcyfer> support all the ZFS option
[10:15] <Touhou11> AciD`: Mail on OS X
[10:15] <MistahSpooky> AciD, on what version
[10:15] <AciD`> :/
[10:15] <AciD`> 12.10
[10:16] <panorain> packetfrog should I remove zfs-fuse then?
[10:16] <t-mart> panorain: yes
[10:16] <MistahSpooky> AciD`, what DE
[10:16] <panorain> use the ppa key zfs-linux package instead lordcypher?
[10:16] <lordcyfer> yes
[10:16] <AciD`> MistahSpooky > kde, but on 4.10, akonadi is completly broken
[10:17] <AciD`> hence no more korganizer for me :'(
[10:17] <panorain> ok
[10:17] <t-mart> panorain: maybe you need to ask yourself why you should be installing a niche filesystem in the first place
[10:17] <panorain> I installed the zfs-linux package t-mart
[10:17] <lordcyfer> @panorain  dpi you know how to use ZFS after ?
[10:18] <MistahSpooky> AciD`, ooo not good....how did it break?
[10:18] <panorain> i'm gonna try to learn I just really want to get GhostBSD booted up
[10:18] <l057c0d3r> why use zfs over ext4?
[10:18] <mengine> ll
[10:18] <panorain> cause it's self healing
[10:18] <l057c0d3r> oh because of the bsd
[10:18] <panorain> yes the bsd
[10:18] <l057c0d3r> self healing?
[10:18] <panorain> I bookmarked all the links
[10:19] <AciD`> MistahSpooky > its just bugged, I opened a bug report for this problem I'm trying to fix for 18 days.. https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=315934
[10:19] <AciD`> so as I _need_ to be able to use my calendar, I'm searching for another app to do that
[10:19] <lordcyfer> @panorain  after your install is a success http://unixfoo.blogspot.ch/2009/02/zfs-basic-administration-guide.html
[10:19] <panorain> packetfrog what should I do at this point?
[10:20] <l057c0d3r> heh i love my android... calender syncs with google.... evolution sync's with google..  my calendar goes everywhere with me
[10:20] <lordcyfer> run ifs list
[10:20] <lordcyfer> to check that your module is loaded
[10:20] <lordcyfer> zfs list
[10:20] <packetfrog> remove what I told you. Do what t-mart said.
[10:20] <panorain> I removed zfs-fuse
 panorain: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:zfs-native/stable;sudo apt-get update;  sudo apt-get install zfs-linux
[10:22] <MistahSpooky> AciD`, still looking for something hold on
[10:22] <lordcyfer> @packetfrog you should be pay
[10:22] <AciD`> ok
[10:22] <packetfrog> pay?
[10:22] <packetfrog> lordcyfer,  Huh?
[10:23] <lordcyfer> giving the command line so precisely
[10:23] <panorain> alright packetfrog i'm running it
[10:23] <lordcyfer> should be award
[10:23] <MistahSpooky> AciD`, did you upgrade to kde 4.10
[10:23] <packetfrog> lordcyfer,  For what?
[10:23] <panorain> failed to fetch 404 not found
[10:24] <lordcyfer> @packetfrog Joke
[10:24] <AciD`> MistahSpooky > yes I did, using the kubuntu ppa. I tried importing my data in another computer that was still in 3.9.5, without any problem. Hence, akonadi 4.10 is bugged..
[10:24] <packetfrog> panorain works for me..
[10:25] <MistahSpooky> AciD`, ahh i see no wonder
[10:26] <panorain> I did dpkg -l |less
[10:26] <panorain> rc zfs-fuse
[10:26] <panorain> packetfrog the package is broken?
[10:26] <packetfrog> http://zfsonlinux.org/faq.html
[10:26] <panorain> oops sorry
[10:27] <panorain> I'm gonna install zfs-fuse
[10:27] <panorain> I don't know what else to do packetfrog
[10:27] <ronalds_m> when the hell are there going to be ubuntu tablet, I want one
[10:28] <Ben64> !touch
[10:28] <t-mart> panorain: this is a bad idea. you need to spend some time just learning what linux is about. the BSD's aren't any easier.
[10:28] <MistahSpooky> AciD`, try deleting your old data thats in the home directory then start fresh before importing
[10:28] <panorain> MistahSpooky are you there?
[10:28] <MistahSpooky> panorain, yeah whats up
[10:28] <AciD`> MistahSpooky > I did that by creating a new user, same problem arise
[10:28] <panorain> t-mart am I going to pop lucid just trying to get it to boot?
[10:29] <panorain> MistahSpooky should I lay off my GhostBSD deal or press on?
[10:29] <AciD`> (18 days i'm on this, with only very help from akonadi dev..)
[10:29] <AciD`> few
[10:29] <panorain> I want to get that blowfish firewall book for bsd
[10:30] <MistahSpooky> AciD` did you delete Everything under ~/.local/share/ ?
[10:30] <MistahSpooky> panorain, its up to you...hows it going so far?
[10:31] <dawkirst> hi, if I clone a partition on a HDD with bad sectors, will the bad sectors be cloned to the target device?
[10:31] <AciD`> MistahSpooky > I did have to do that, as I created a new user, copied all my ics and cvf files into another directory, then created new akoandi resource pointing to those dir
[10:31] <panorain> it's great MistahSpooky I installed zfs-fuse
[10:31] <AciD`> at first it seems it works
[10:31] <panorain> reading to get all mounted up on sdb sdb1
[10:31] <MistahSpooky> AciD`, Everything under ~/.config/akonadi/. as well?
[10:31] <AciD`> but if you close korganizer|kadressbook nd relaunch it, the data won't load in akonadi
[10:31] <AciD`> MistahSpooky > yes
[10:32] <MistahSpooky> panorain, so where you able to mount it? or still unrecognized?
[10:32] <MistahSpooky> AciD`, hhmmm what did you copy over?
[10:33] <panorain> MistahSpooky Gparted still states /dev/sdb1 is unrecognized
[10:33] <panorain> I wonder if I need to reboot this machine?
[10:33] <MistahSpooky> panorain, so you have it on a usb then or a hd
[10:34] <panorain> MistahSpooky it's on my slave harddrive
[10:34] <panorain> MistahSpooky all installed with BSD bootloader
[10:35] <MistahSpooky> AciD`, it only works, so i heard, if you only by copping over your emails only
[10:35] <AciD`> MistahSpooky > for my contacts, the vcf files from a january backup. For my calendar the ics files from a backup + ics files from a script I made to retrieve ics data from akaondi database (http://paste.ubuntu.com/5575932)
[10:36] <AciD`> MistahSpooky > emails do works fine. I only have problem with vcard and ical files
[10:36] <n8w> hey guys do u know any graphic editor that automaticaly refresh the content on a change?
[10:36] <MistahSpooky> panorain, sdb is for usb sda or hda is for the hard drive
[10:36] <AciD`> n8w > kate
[10:36] <t-mart> n8w: gedit will alert you of this.
[10:37] <n8w> AciD`, kate???what?
[10:37] <stilia-johny> hi there
[10:37] <n8w> t-mart, ok i will look into it...thx
[10:37] <panorain> MistahSpooky on my lucidlunx sudo fdisk -l responds with /dev/sdb 40.0 GB  no flash drives plugged into the pc
[10:37] <stilia-johny> i am trying to setup the zoneminder(dvr software) is anyone having any idea how?
[10:37] <stilia-johny> thank you
[10:37] <AciD`> MistahSpooky > and to be more precise, I pasted all those ics files into a folder, imported it with kde 4.9.5, then exported on big std.ics files. That's the file I then used on 4.10, and it only load once..
[10:37] <apwbdjp> n8w, FYI, it alerts and gives you a button to refresh, it doesn't refresh automatically
[10:38] <panorain> MistahSpooky the slave harddisk is a 40 GB
[10:38] <t-mart> n8w: automatic updating might not be such a good idea. are you saying you want it to delete unsaved changes you've made?
[10:38] <t-mart> n8w: also, with ubuntu, you already have gedit
[10:38] <AciD`> *one big std.ics file
[10:39] <MistahSpooky> panorain, thats strange i checked mine right now and its sda for mine
[10:39] <n8w> t-mart, ye,lets say i have got a picture opened n i will constantly updating the picture...so i wanna see the changes without hittin F5 everytime
[10:39] <panorain> MistahSpooky when I plug in my flash drive and sudo fdisk -l states 'unable to mount wrong fs type  /dev/sdc4
[10:40] <panorain> my usb is on /dev/sdc4 MistahSpooky
[10:40] <MistahSpooky> AciD`, yeah i guessing its the bug....have you tried thunderbird or evolution?
[10:40] <panorain> MistahSpooky it's got a written .img of GhostBSD what I used to install GhostBSD to my slave 40GB HD
[10:41] <AciD`> i'll try with evolution
[10:41] <MistahSpooky> panorain, so gparted doesnt read it? at all?
[10:41] <panorain> that is correct MistahSpooky should I reboot since installing zfs-fuse?
[10:42] <MistahSpooky> AciD`, ima have to look into that bug....dont want that happening on my machine
[10:42] <AciD`> MistahSpooky > make backups !
[10:42] <panorain> gparted= /dev/sdb1 filesystem unknown 37.27 GiB
[10:42] <MistahSpooky> panorain, yeah reboot
[10:42] <panorain> ok MistahSpooky
[10:43] <t-mart> MistahSpooky: btw, those mappings shouldn't be relied on. they can change at boot. https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Persistent_block_device_naming
[10:43] <MistahSpooky> AciD`, deff!!
[10:43] <AciD`> MistahSpooky > because some times akonadi just doesn't write your information into the source, but only keeps it in cache, then decide cache is unnecessary, and delete that cache : you lose !
[10:44] <judd96> giorno
[10:44] <judd96> !LIST
[10:44] <t-mart> n8w: are you looking for a text editor or an image viewer?
[10:44] <MistahSpooky> t-mart, thats true but a reboot should help out some...if not then an upgrade might be needed
[10:44] <crazyhorse> i need to disable two ubuntu shortcuts, alt-shift-up and alt-shift-down
[10:44] <n8w> t-mart, image editor...
[10:44] <crazyhorse> i can't find where they ar set
[10:44] <crazyhorse> are set
[10:44] <panorain> MistahSpooky it took a bit longer to get into Gnome
[10:45] <n8w> t-mart, as i have mentioned in the question...havent i?if not sry...too lazy to check it out:)
[10:46] <panorain> MistahSpooky still unknow /dev/sdb1 in gparted
[10:46] <panorain> I know somethings wrong
[10:46] <crazyhorse> actually.. it's just alt-shift-up i need to disable
[10:46] <panorain> with my mind haha
[10:46] <t-mart> n8w: you said graphic editor. we thought that meant graphical text editor
[10:46] <MistahSpooky> AciD`, try the self test on akonadi
[10:47] <n8w> t-mart, oh sry...that was wrong interpretation from me...
[10:47] <AciD`> MistahSpooky > what is that ?
[10:47] <beinghuman> I've added a custom desktop entry and locked it to the launcher, sometimes when I click the icon it will blink and the application won't show up. If I grep it from ps then it shows it's there and I have to kill it.
[10:47] <beinghuman> this is not a problem with the application itself because if I launch from the terminal it always shows up and doesnt hang
[10:49] <MistahSpooky> panorain, try manualy mounting it
[10:49] <t-mart> n8w: anyway, i'd get imagemagick and use the display command and the update option http://www.imagemagick.org/www/display.html
[10:49] <panorain> Ok MistahSpooky
[10:50] <MistahSpooky> AciD`, try installing kdepim4
[10:51] <beinghuman> I've created a .desktop entry to launch an application that launches fine every time from the terminal. However, when I lock it to the unity launcher and try to launch... occasionally the icon will just blink and not launch the application. However, it does launch it but it doesn't show the window because I have to grep it from ps and kill the PID
[10:51] <MistahSpooky> panorain, mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdb1
[10:51] <n8w> t-mart, i have got imagemagic...but have never used it,since it looks pretty oldschool to me...ye i will give it a try. thx
[10:51] <panorain> ok MistahSpooky
[10:51] <LinaSovereign> Hey !
[10:51] <MistahSpooky> yo
[10:51] <AciD`> MistahSpooky > I already have that, how do you launch that self test ? from akonadi console ?
[10:52] <t-mart> n8w: it's super powerful. you might be surprised
[10:52] <makara> i'm trying to increase the number of recent documents LibreOffice remembers. It's 10 I want it 20. Is this property set by Ubuntu?
[10:53] <panorain> MistahSpooky  sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdb1  zfs or ntfs ?
[10:53] <MistahSpooky> ponarain, zfs
[10:54] <MistahSpooky> makara, check in the settings for the libreoffice
[10:54] <MistahSpooky> panorain, did it mount?
[10:55] <panorain> MistahSpooky no I
[10:55] <t-mart> makara: first google result: http://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/941/can-i-access-a-list-of-recent-documents-longer/
[10:56] <n8w> t-mart, ye man! like displaying all images within a folder in one window+ update option
[10:56] <n8w> t-mart, super cool...
[10:56] <panorain> sudo mount -t zfs-3g /dev/sdb1   I think I am missing something MistahSpooky
[10:56] <crazyhorse> is there an equivilent of gconf-editor for the default ubuntu gui?
[10:56] <MistahSpooky> panorain, check /media and see what you have there
[10:56] <n8w> t-mart, good pick...
[10:57] <MistahSpooky> AciD`, yeah im not sure how to run it tho
[10:57] <panorain> media   floppy  floppy0  MistahSpooky nothing more
[10:58] <artichio> ya til des francai ??
[10:58] <artichio> ya til des francai ??
[10:58] <MistahSpooky> AciD`, it runs a test and you can see whats wrong i think think it runs on the terminal
[10:59] <artichio> french
[10:59] <AciD`> MistahSpooky > i'm trying to find more info of that "self-test" on the web, without success so far
[10:59] <MistahSpooky> panorain, mount -t zfs-3g /dev/sdd1 /media/media try that
[11:00] <TakeItEZ> MistahSpooky: what is "zfs-3g"?
[11:01] <artichio> il ny a aucain francai
[11:01] <TakeItEZ> !fr | artichio
[11:01] <panorain> MistahSpooky sudo mount -t zfs-3g /dev/sdb1 /media/sdb1  ?
[11:01] <panorain> why 2 media's MistahSpooky?
[11:02] <MistahSpooky> AciD`, kdepim-runtime? do you have that installed
[11:02] <AciD`> MistahSpooky > yes
[11:02] <Kotica> Hello  everyone
[11:02] <Kotica> Does anyone know how to restart gnome session from terminal?
[11:02] <crazyhorse> this is driving me nuts.... where are the keyboard shortcut settings in ubuntu
[11:03] <MistahSpooky> panorain, hhmmmm im stuck
[11:03] <crazyhorse> i can only find a subselection of them in settings
[11:03] <MistahSpooky> TakeItEZ, help please?
[11:03] <crazyhorse> i install dconf-tools but that didn't provide them either
[11:03] <dbugger> hello guys. I have a very slow startup, specially since I log in until the Desktop is functional. I have the System Log Viewer open, but I dont really understand whats going on there. Could anyone help me tackle down the problem?
[11:03] <MistahSpooky> AciD`, the akonadi runs a self test and stores it in a log im trying to find the location of were it is
[11:04] <panorain> MistahSpooky what do I try to mount /dev/sdb or /dev/sdb1  /sda is the HD lucidlynx is on
[11:04] <panorain> Thanks MistahSpooky for your help though
[11:04] <panorain> if you think of anything please let me know
[11:05] <AciD`> MistahSpooky > ah, then I already have that, as during my test I used the `akonadictl start  2>&1 | tee ako.log` command
[11:05] <Espen_> How can i reset sound profiles like "Stereo Digital Duplex/Analag Stereo Output"? I found the settings in Gnome, but if i switch to Unity they are gone.
[11:05] <AciD`> MistahSpooky > everything is inthe bug report then..
[11:05] <MistahSpooky> AciD`, try akonadi start in a terminal
[11:06] <MistahSpooky> AciD`, try removing the folder: $HOME/.local/share/akonadi/db_data
[11:06] <AciD`> MistahSpooky > akonadi output only one cryptic error : "can't load resource xxx" of something like that. *not helping*
[11:06] <AciD`> MistahSpooky > would could that change ?
[11:06] <MistahSpooky> panorain, sorry its hard trying to help more than one person at a time
[11:06] <AciD`> :)
[11:07] <panorain> I'm cool MistahSpooky i'm checking out a forum take a break from it you've been awesome
[11:09] <MistahSpooky> AciD`, did it help
[11:11] <AciD`> MistahSpooky > i'm cautious when deleted akonadi cache ; as I said, sometimes akonadi takes time to save the changes to the source, sometimes it just does not
[11:17] <panorain> MistahSpooky sudo zpool import return a drive and light noise from the drive
[11:17] <panorain> Do any Ubuntu Distributions support ZFS file structures at this time?
[11:18] <MistahSpooky> AciD`, i see well im stuck...ived looked and tried but no avail
[11:18] <AciD`> MistahSpooky > are you on 4.10 too ?
[11:19] <MistahSpooky> panorain, what the output of fdisk -l -u
[11:19] <MistahSpooky> AciD`, not ubuntu tho
[11:20] <AciD`> MistahSpooky > so if you try to create a vcarddir resource for instance, point it to a folder where you a have few vcard files, then restart akonadi, does this resource still works ?
[11:20] <panorain> MistahSpooky what are you wanting me to report exactly looks the same as -l i'll look up the -u quick
[11:21] <panorain> MistahSpooky how can I paste the output of sudo fdisk -l -u to you here ?
[11:21] <MistahSpooky> AciD`, well im working backwards trying to see why it works then trying to find a solution like that
[11:22] <MistahSpooky> panorain, just the gist of it
[11:23] <MistahSpooky> AciD`, on the test what is the error it gives you?
[11:23] <panorain> Basically MistaSpooky its got /dev/sda1 /dev/sda2 /dev/sda5  on primary HD running LucidLynx then  /dev/sdb /dev/sdb1 Are HD 2 BSD
[11:24] <AciD`> MistahSpooky > the one I mentionned in the bug report : "AkonadiAgentServer(20469): akonadi_ical_resource: Can't find incidence with uid "f36a0552-a73e-4c0d-9945-e772057bfafe" ; item.id() = 521696 ItemRetrieverException : Unable to retrieve item from resource: <html>Invalid item retrieved</html>"
[11:25] <AciD`> where the f36a0552-a73e-4c0d-9945-e772057bfafe string is the uid the very first row where data is null
[11:26] <MistahSpooky> panorain, ok hold on
[11:27] <panorain> ok MistahSpooky
[11:27] <MistahSpooky> AciD`, https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=285676    see if this helps
[11:29] <Akiva-Mobile> I am trying to install a legacy version of blender so I can use a legacy plugin. Is there a way to do this through ubuntu debs? I tried downloading a deb package, but of course its dependencies could not be satisfied.
[11:30] <Akiva-Mobile> I believe lucid was the last ubuntu to feature the version of blender I need
[11:30] <Dulcin> Hi, I'm on ubuntu 12.04 with gnome shell, and I'm trying to figure out how I can change empathy but I can not find a 'settings' menu anywhere. I want to remove the huge avatars from the chat and only see the names / text
[11:31] <MistahSpooky> panorain, ok try this first go to your terminal, then run sudo mkdir /media/BSD
[11:32] <AciD`> MistahSpooky > i'm reading that bug report
[11:32] <panorain> Ok MistahSpooky I created the BSD folder under /media
[11:32] <graemeglass> Is there anyway of getting gcalc in ubuntu 12.04 to start in advance mode all the time?
[11:33] <MistahSpooky> panorain, then sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdb1 /media/BSD
[11:33] <panorain> MistahSpooky wait
[11:33] <MistahSpooky> panorain, exactly like that
[11:33] <MistahSpooky> AciD`, read the last post
[11:34] <MistahSpooky> Dulcin, you want to remove empathy?
[11:34] <panorain> MistahSpooky I am installing ubuntu-zfs pzckage now
[11:34] <panorain> MistahSpooky I will run your mount command next
[11:35] <Dulcin> MistahSpooky, : No I want to change the chat settings, now the avatars are HUGE and I want them gone, but I can not find a menu anywhere and with the F-keys I cant find a settings menu either
[11:35] <MistahSpooky> panorain, ok let me know what happens
[11:36] <AciD`> MistahSpooky > I know that this "solution" (which I'm not sure will solve my problem as I tried with a new user already) just delete *every single* pim information you set, like rating, tags, and all..
[11:36] <AciD`> not good for me :/
[11:37] <panorain> MistahSpooky  I noticed ubuntu-zfs package uninstalled zfs-fuse I am still compiling
[11:38] <MistahSpooky> Dulcin, how good are you with cli
[11:39] <MistahSpooky> AciD`, that because it will delete everything that youved imported right
[11:39] <panorain> MistahSpooky Building initial module for 2.6.32-45-generic kernal still
[11:40] <AciD`> MistahSpooky > I then don't see the point of deleting nepomuk information, when it seems the problem lies in the vcard/icaldir resource loading
[11:41] <Dulcin> MistahSpooky, well I know my way around
[11:41] <panorain> looks like a pretty major package done n ow
[11:41] <Dulcin> MistahSpooky, I wouldn't consider myself a pro though :)
[11:41] <MistahSpooky> AciD`, maybe theres something overlooked a package not set up right or file
[11:42] <Dulcin> MistahSpooky, I have set up a few ubuntu servers in the past, that's where most of my cli knowledge comes from
[11:42] <MistahSpooky> Dulcin, you need to go to  to the directory and edit the fonts
[11:43] <panorain> MistaSpooky sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdb1 /media/BSD  Maybe wrong device used? doesn't seem to have valid ntfs
[11:43] <MistahSpooky> Dulcin, If you look in the /usr/share/adium/message-styles/[theme, such as ubuntu.AdiumMessageStyle]/Contents/Resources/ path, you'll find two directories:
[11:43] <panorain> MistahSpooky I am going to zpool import
[11:44] <MistahSpooky> Dulcin, incoming and outgoing
[11:44] <flcl> how do I quickly zip file "dump.sql" ?
[11:44] <MistahSpooky> Dulcin, In those directories are two files: Content.html NextContent.html
[11:45] <panorain> MistaSpooky filesystem /dev/sdb1'  cannot be m ounted, unable to open dataset
[11:45] <MistahSpooky> Dulcin, If you go into those files (open in terminal, "sudo gedit Content.html", etc) and manually insert this before and after %message%
[11:45] <flcl> what is the command to zip single or few files?
[11:46] <MistahSpooky> Dulcin, <font face="Tuffy" size="10">%message%</font>
[11:46] <Dulcin> MistahSpooky, but how will changing the font remove their avatars?
[11:47] <flcl> zip dump.sql returns error about binary mode... How to zip a file??
[11:48] <borov> hi, everybody. Maybe somebody knows: why service autofs do not start after system start? After rebooting autofs (service autofs restart), everything start working fine. In syslog i have: automount[5287]: key ".directory" not found in map source
[11:48] <MistahSpooky> Dulcin, oh sorry i misunderstood so the avatar is super huge?
[11:49] <MistahSpooky> panorain, how did you format your slave
[11:49] <makara> MistahSpooky, tmart, It's not in the settings, and I've check the 1st google link tmart showed and can't get it to work. I'm not a complete moron.
[11:49] <Dulcin> MistahSpooky, yeah, and the text is just plain text, no markup whatsoever
[11:50] <MistahSpooky> Dulcin, what ubuntu are you running
[11:50] <MistahSpooky> Dulcin, version i mean
[11:50] <Dulcin> MistahSpooky, maybe it's because I removed most unity settings? I have ubuntu 12.04 LTS with gnome shell
[11:50] <Dulcin> MistahSpooky, I removed a bunch of unity packages though
[11:50] <panorain> MistaSpooky is formatting different then selecting the entire disk for use in the installation screen within GhostBSD? Should I consider using HDshred and reinstalling GhostBSD?
[11:51] <panorain> MistahSpooky what would be reccomended to format the drive and prepare it for use with zfs GhostBSD?
[11:52] <llxe> BEST Ubuntu support IRC irc.dreamterra.net 6665 #dreamterra
[11:52] <maxsus> BEST Ubuntu support IRC irc.dreamterra.net 6665 #dreamterra
[11:52] <MistahSpooky> Dulcin, there seams to be a bug causing this
[11:52] <tanju> BEST Ubuntu support IRC irc.dreamterra.net 6665 #dreamterra
[11:53] <volkan> BEST Ubuntu support IRC irc.dreamterra.net 6665 #dreamterra
[11:53] <MistahSpooky> panorain, well is your hd formated yet? oh does your bios read the HD?
[11:53] <raedov> hello guys , my pc now comes with intel 2000 HD , i bought Nvidia CARD 440 GT - 2GB DDR3 , now i need to reinstall ubuntu or just put the nvidia card and it will use nouveau !!
[11:53] <panorain> MistahSpooky my bios is reading the harddrives properly
[11:53] <Dulcin> MistahSpooky, ah crap :)
[11:53] <MistahSpooky> Dulcin, try installing a old version of empathy
[11:54] <panorain> MistahSpooky these are both PATA drives
[11:54] <obert> hi, someone could teach me on using pastebinit to print a git diff file,please?
[11:54] <relaks> BEST Ubuntu support IRC irc.dreamterra.net 6665 #dreamterra
[11:54] <MistahSpooky> Dulcin, echo 'deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise main restricted universe multiverse' >> /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:54] <obert> i'd tried git diff && pastebinit
[11:55] <leader> BEST Ubuntu support IRC irc.dreamterra.net 6665 #dreamterra
[11:55] <MistahSpooky> Dulcin, run that in the terminal to begin installation of old empathy for precise,,this should fix your problem
[11:55] <excel> BEST Ubuntu support IRC irc.dreamterra.net 6665 #dreamterra
[11:55] <saurov> hello... everyone.. i've just installed 12.10 with selected encrypt my home folder.. i've entered the passphase and got the self generated code but my home folder is not encrypt.. how it work? pls help me
[11:56] <dr_willis_> saurov:  how do you know its not encrypted?
[11:56] <MistahSpooky> panorain, hmm strange how new or old is your hd
[11:56] <resat> BEST Ubuntu support IRC irc.dreamterra.net 6665 #dreamterra
[11:56] <MistahSpooky> Dulcin, then run apt-get update
[11:57] <saurov> i can open my home folder .. no password or something is needed
[11:57] <crazyhorse> how do i open the current directory in the file explorer?
[11:57] <crazyhorse> i.e. terminal -> nautilus?
[11:57] <jrib> crazyhorse: nautilus .
[11:57] <flintser> saurov: it measn you cannot read it if you for exapmle put that hd in another computer to skip loginscreens etc
[11:58] <panorain> MistahSpooky It is a slimline 5.25 Maxstor 7200 rpm I used the drive with another distro a month or so ago
[11:58] <Dulcin> MistahSpooky, Iĺl try that, thanks
[11:58] <crazyhorse> jrib: too much to type :(
[11:58] <MistahSpooky> crazyhorse, are you tying to run it in root?
[11:58] <crazyhorse> nah just normla
[11:58] <crazyhorse> normal
[11:58] <snodo> is open ssh installed on ubuntu 12.04 by default?
[11:58] <jrib> snodo: no
[11:58] <crazyhorse> can i create a symlink to it somewhere?
[11:58] <MistahSpooky> Dulcin, theres more tho once you run that let me know
[11:58] <jrib> crazyhorse: create an alias
[11:59] <crazyhorse> sudo ln -s /path/to/nautilus /usr/local/bin/n
[11:59] <matelot> BEST Ubuntu support IRC irc.dreamterra.net 6665 #dreamterra
[11:59] <jrib> ugh
[11:59] <crazyhorse> jrib: how do i do that?
[11:59] <snodo> jrib: thanks, i been using ssh for sometime, though it was the open ssh software, guess ill have to install it
[11:59] <jrib> crazyhorse: alias o='nautilus .'
[11:59] <dr_willis_> crazyhorse:  make a bash alias
[11:59] <jrib> !ssh > snodo
[11:59] <saurov> i've no idea about how that encryption work.. is there any way to restrict access to my home folder?
[11:59] <MistahSpooky> panorain, do you have another computer? try formating it a diffrt computer
[11:59] <snodo> *thought
[11:59] <graemeglass> how do you get gcalctool to start up in specific mode (ie: basic, scientific, financial)
[12:00] <dr_willis_> !permissions | saurov
[12:00] <crazyhorse> ohh, do i need to add that to ~/.profile?
[12:00] <jrib> crazyhorse: ~/.bashrc is customary
[12:01] <MistahSpooky> Dulcin, still here?
[12:01] <crazyhorse> i thought in ubuntu .profile was where you were supposed to dump stuff? or is that not true?
[12:01] <dengeslz> BEST Ubuntu support IRC irc.dreamterra.net 6665 #dreamterra
[12:01] <panorain> MistahSpooky I have another pc what should I format it with hdshredder or the inboard distro setup ?
[12:02] <blrgul> BEST Ubuntu support IRC irc.dreamterra.net 6665 #dreamterra
[12:02] <clup> BEST Ubuntu support IRC irc.dreamterra.net 6665 #dreamterra
[12:02] <MistahSpooky> panorain, check and see if another computer can read it first if it cant then it might be something else
[12:03] <crazyhorse> if i have multiple terminal windows open, how do i jump from one to the next?
[12:03] <MistahSpooky> Dulcin, hello?
[12:03] <panorain> MistahSpooky ok i'll set it up as an independant master drve
[12:03] <guang> why "mkfs.vfat testfile" can work,but "mkfs.ntfs testfile" will tell "it is not a block device"?testfile is created by "dd if=/dev/zero of=testfile bs=1M count=128".
[12:04] <snodo> jrib : thanks ill have a read
[12:05] <MistahSpooky> panorain, is it a fat partition?
[12:05] <panorain> MistahSpooky I believe it is a BSD 9 zsf partition
[12:05] <Letatcest> anyone knows a workaround for microphone in google hangouts?
[12:06] <Letatcest> i've been searching but have not found the answer
[12:06] <disty> Hi, the sound has disappeared in my xubuntu.
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> crazyhorse: alt+tab, or super+w
[12:06] <noaXess> hiho
[12:06] <panorain>  MistahSpooky it's booting fine as primary drive no slaves
[12:06] <crazyhorse> alt-tab didn't work
[12:06] <crazyhorse> what's super?
[12:06] <crazyhorse> is that like the windows key?
[12:06] <krux> yes
[12:06] <MistahSpooky> panorain, so you were running BSD before? or did you get it blank
[12:07] <MistahSpooky> Dulcin, ?????
[12:07] <noaXess> have killed unity and tried different things to restore.. what i see is a empty desktop... i can right click to get the desktop context menu.. but nothing else
[12:07] <snodo> jrib: thanks for the link cleared my doubts!!
[12:07] <noaXess> any hint how to restore it?
[12:07] <panorain> MistahSpooky I was in LucidLynx before when we are chatting
[12:07] <crazyhorse> ActionParsnip: windows+w seems to show all the windows, alt-tab doesn' twork
[12:07] <jrib> snodo: no problem
[12:07] <crazyhorse> ActionParnsip: ohhhhh alt + tilda works :D
[12:08] <MistahSpooky> panorain, no i mean the hard drive that wont mount...was it always bsd?
[12:08] <panorain> MistahSpooky all I did was pull the PATA cable off my LucidLynx drive and plug into BSD but that sucks really I wanted dual bootability
[12:08] <panorain> MistahSpooky no the drive loads great as primary im in GhostBSD login menu now
[12:09] <panorain> MistahSpooky nothing wrong with HD sectors on this drive
[12:09] <flintser> crazyhorse: you can use konsole for tabs, i cant be sure if it works in unity though
[12:09] <MistahSpooky> panorain, so you want to have both plugged in? and just pick at startup which one to load?
[12:09] <panorain> I just wanted to have them both hooked up to this pc with a grub menu
[12:09] <panorain> MistahSpooky yes
[12:10] <noaXess> i also see the update manager ;).. but no more unity things.. no logout/shutdown ions..
[12:10] <noaXess> icons ^
[12:10] <MistahSpooky> panorain, if you want to do that then they both have to be primary you cant have slave
[12:11] <panorain> MistaSpooky I only have 1 PATA cable how can I make both the drives primary?
[12:12] <Letatcest> no one on mic problems google voice chat/hangouts? :|
[12:12] <grahamsavage> sorry dropped out
[12:12] <MistahSpooky> panorain, ive tried that but it doesnt work...they both have to be primary and you pick from the bios not the grub....grub is only to pick for parttionss on one drive
[12:12] <grahamsavage> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/583063b336bf2b2ccdf2 << i'm trying to create an icon in the side launcher to display this application.. or have it come up in spotlight(or whatever the ubuntu-omnibox is called).. i've got one working for sublimetext.. but this one doesn't appear in the alt-f2 .. i ran those commands exactly as is
[12:12] <HeKToN> It will take years until I start talking the same language as you ...
[12:13] <MistahSpooky> panorain, the hd has a label on it to tell you how to make it a master...they both have to be master
[12:13] <panorain> MistahSpooky that does make sense so I will revert my grub 40 file back reupdate grub
[12:13] <panorain> MistahSpooky jumper settings?
[12:13] <MistahSpooky> panorain, yeah the jumpers,,
[12:14] <panorain> MistahSpooky then it will not matter which plug the cable is into which drive correct?
[12:14] <MistahSpooky> panorain, right
[12:14] <panorain> MistahSpooky fair enough
[12:15] <MistahSpooky> panorain, but your gonna have to pick from the bios which one to boot, meaning you have to change the order all the time
[12:15] <MistahSpooky> panorain, haha i thought you were trying to do something else....but it was easy this whole time haha
[12:16] <panorain> MistaSpooky I don't get why zpool list won't pony up a drive list of zfs drives after I installed ubuntu-zfs
[12:16] <panorain> MistaSpooky yes I know sometime I tend to make things overly difficult
[12:17] <MistahSpooky> panorain, thats true it should read it....
[12:17] <panorain> MistaSpooky I thought it would be nice to select right from grub though
[12:17] <panorain> MistaSpooky I am going to send a mail to the team just to ask them about it
[12:18] <MistahSpooky> panorain, yeah but idk how to do that....or if you can do it at all
[12:18] <MistahSpooky> HeKToN, what do you mean
[12:19] <panorain> MistaSpooky what distro are you using?
[12:19] <MistahSpooky> panorain, ubuntu, debian, linux mint, arch, chrunchbang, fedora, slax, etc i use all of them
[12:19] <flintser> noaXess: have you tried to Ctrl+Alt+T at the blank desktop, and to run unity from there? that happened to me once (temporary) and unity launhed from terminal wuite nicely
[12:19] <flintser> quite*
[12:20] <panorain> MistahSpooky fair enough
[12:20] <MistahSpooky> panorain, i rotate every once in a while to get familiar with all of them
[12:21] <grahamsavage> I've got a running app
[12:21] <grahamsavage> which i can only select by pressing windows-w and selecting it
[12:21] <crackth> hello，everybody
[12:21] <MistahSpooky> panorain, you never know what you can do if you keep learing
[12:21] <grahamsavage> how can i make it appear in the quick-launch bar on the left?
[12:21] <MistahSpooky> panorain, learning*
[12:21] <panorain> MistahSpooky your right BSD has some wild firewalls
[12:22] <panorain> MistahSpooky I wonder if I have the ability I learned alot talking with you
[12:22] <MistahSpooky> panorain, i havent tried bsd but i will soon.....what do you mean
[12:22] <Dulcin> MistahSpooky, I am still here, but it I have to restart my pc and still have unsaved work so Ill do it in a bit
[12:23] <MistahSpooky> Dulcin, ok cuz theres more to it
[12:23] <panorain> MistaSpooky all the links were pretty direct and helpful
[12:24] <panorain> MistaSpooky my bios doesn't enable either harddrive only C:\
[12:24] <MistahSpooky> Dulcin, after you do the get the wget and do the update you gotta run apt-get remove empathy empathy-common
[12:24] <Dulcin> MistahSpooky, rebooting now, so brb
[12:24] <HeKToN> MistahSpooky, I mean that I`m so beginner with everything don`t even know what is equal to programfiles in ubuntu....
[12:24] <panorain> I guess I can work around it
[12:24] <panorain> I never messed much with fdisk and gparted before yesterday
[12:25] <MistahSpooky> panorain, yup haha hoped i helped some tho
[12:25] <MistahSpooky> HeKToN, dont worry you learn as you go
[12:26] <HeKToN> anyway which one is equal to it :D
[12:26] <panorain> MistahSpooky you did help i'm going to learn more about zfs file system
[12:26] <MistahSpooky> HeKToN, you wont learn until you encounter a problem, then you expand
[12:27] <HeKToN> makes sense :)
[12:27] <panorain> MistahSpooky or get a migraine
[12:27] <GeorgeSvn> hello everyone
[12:27] <MistahSpooky> panorain, cool try hitting the local library...some have awesome books on linux
[12:28] <MistahSpooky> HeKToN, which one is equal to what
[12:28] <panorain> MistaSpooky I should
[12:29] <HeKToN> programfiles folder on windows is equal to which one in linux
[12:29] <MistahSpooky> panorain, for gparted try the wikis its a long read but its worth it
[12:30] <panorain> MistahSpooky I have been really liking the Launchpad anwsers
[12:30] <TakeItEZ> !fhs | HeKToN: there is no real equivalent
[12:30] <grahamsavage> in terminal what is the paste command?
[12:30] <flintser> HeKToN: i believe it is /usr/bin :)
[12:30] <MistahSpooky> HeKToN, sorry i still dont understand hahaha sleepyness kickin in
[12:30] <TakeItEZ> grahamsavage: pastebinit, if installed
[12:31] <grahamsavage> oh sorry, i mean paste shortcut
[12:31] <HeKToN> :)
[12:31] <HeKToN> thanks
[12:31] <grahamsavage> copy/paste shortcut
[12:31] <grahamsavage> ctrl-c does - cancel
[12:31] <grahamsavage> ctrl-v doesn't work
[12:31] <MistahSpooky> panorain, launchpad is good just make sure you read the links that are current...some still talk about old stuff
[12:31] <flintser> HeKToN: although it wont be the same, but the /usr/bin or the /usr/ in whole act as where you will find your binaries what you run
[12:31] <grahamsavage> i've done right click paste about 1000 times today
[12:32] <HeKToN> so if I need to find firefox for example I need to go into this folders?
[12:33] <MistahSpooky> TakeItEZ, where have you been hahaha i had to solve problems on my own for a while until other showed up or woke up haha
[12:33] <TakeItEZ> HeKToN: "which firefox" will tell you, where the binary is (if it exists)
[12:33] <panorain> MistahSpooky should I consider getting rid of LucidLynx soon?
[12:34] <MistahSpooky> panorain, well yeah its not maintained and theres no more updates for it
[12:34] <TakeItEZ> HeKToN: usually you won't have to cruise through the filesystem to run things, most is in your $PATH(a variable holding pathes to binaries/scrips)
[12:35] <HeKToN> hm much more convenient than windows
[12:35] <panorain> MistaSpooky I have been getting updates daily for it there was just a flash update yesterday
[12:35] <andybrine> hey guys, im just trying to install adobe air though wine with numerous problems. Has anyone managed to install it?
[12:36] <andybrine> adobe have made a right balls up
[12:36] <Machtin> Hey guys, is there any direct way to use skydrive like dropbox on ubuntu? Direct meaning not having to use some third-party site?
[12:36] <andybrine> have searched everywhere and unable to find a solution]
[12:36] <MistahSpooky> panorain, yeah but its the last year,, after that then your really out
[12:37] <Fra_ButBut_> Plop all
[12:38] <panorain> MistaSpooky yes theres alot of reading etc though thats relatively the same. Unity seemed so odd when I installed 12.04
[12:38] <n8w> is this a correct syntax for imagemagic to keep updating a given image? display image.jpg -update 1 ?
[12:38] <TakeItEZ> Machtin: does t support webdav? then use that
[12:38] <MistahSpooky> andybrine, adobe is a jerk....they dropped support for linux awhile back
[12:38] <param_> how to launch vm in ubuntu using QEMU ?
[12:38] <flintser> HeKToN: for example to create a shortcut to chromium browser at your desktop you'd create text-file at desktop called "chromium" and write "#!/bin/bash <enter> /usr/bin/chromium-browser" in it. that is the equivalent of running /usr/bin/chromium-browser at your terminal.
[12:39] <MistahSpooky> panorain, yeah but you can install gnome pannel and at the login choose gnome instead of unity and your back
[12:39] <ikonia> param_: same way as a normal install
[12:39] <ikonia> param_: a vm should be treated the same way
[12:39] <andybrine> MistahSpooky, yeah i know they are rubbish
[12:40] <andybrine> i just need to install something and at the moment I am unable to due to a conflict with adobe air
[12:40] <Machtin> TakeItEZ: I think it does to some extent. Didn't find out how to get the adress though
[12:40] <HeKToN> what will be the extension ?
[12:40] <TakeItEZ> HeKToN: fileextensions are for humans only, files don't need any
[12:40] <flintser> HeKToN: you dont need one :)
[12:41] <panorain> MistahGoofy I should probably get moving with it within the next month i'm not super worried about it right now
[12:41] <flintser> though ubuntu handles xyz.desktop differently than just xyz
[12:41] <flintser> but that is another thing
[12:41] <panorain> MistaSpooky have you ever stumbled on Slitaz?
[12:41] <MistahSpooky> andybrine, try finding an older version of adobe air for linux and use that...way easier
[12:42] <MistahSpooky> panorain, yeah i have a cd of the latest one
[12:43] <andybrine> managed to get is resolved :)
[12:43] <peppo> anyone running 12.10 and Chrome and experiencing Flash fullscreen performance issues? (Flash in Chromium and Firefox is OK)
[12:43] <SpecialEmily> whats the current state of installing ubuntu on a mac mini?
[12:43] <MistahSpooky> andybrine, what did you do?
[12:43] <andybrine> adobe air is such crap but when its needed what can you do :)
[12:43] <flcl> what is the command to zip single or few files?
[12:44] <andybrine> i just installed the application through play onlinux and it installed adobe air with it
[12:44] <dr_willis_> flcl:  checked zip --help for its ussage?
[12:44] <TakeItEZ> flcl: man zip (zip foo.zip bar)
[12:44] <MistahSpooky> andybrine, ah yes playonlinux haha
[12:45] <Machtin> TakeItEZ: I think I got the link to the webdav, but it doesn't seem to just login if I enter webdav://docs.live.com/<mycid> in dolphin, but gets redirected to a login-page
[12:46] <MistahSpooky> panorain, why do you ask about slitaz
[12:46] <andybrine> playonlinux is awesome :)
[12:46] <SpecialEmily> Can someone suggest a mac-mini style device I can run a high-end ubuntu machine on?
[12:46] <MistahSpooky> andybrine, agreed, i use the ableton thats on there...tho i hope there could be more stuff
[12:48] <andybrine> lol the application installed but it is now stuck on the manual installation through POL
[12:48] <flcl> but I can't read
[12:48] <MistahSpooky> panorain, well im glad i helped but i gotta be going
[12:49] <flcl> zip dump.sql returns error about binary transfer mode
[12:49] <MistahSpooky> andybrine, oooo not good! hahaha if you mess with it the program wont install right
[12:49] <panorain> MistaSpooky I have a p3 with 128 memory I wanted to get it setup but I run into a video card refresh issue. I tried Slitaz 2 with the Vesa but no go.
[12:50] <HeKToN> flintser, there is an issue when I drop some text file on my Desktop it dissapears :)
[12:50] <andybrine> MistahSpooky true, its just not running though
[12:50] <andybrine> lol
[12:51] <andybrine> its still the damn adobe crap which is causing it
[12:51] <andybrine> what a load of bs :S
[12:52] <dr_willis_> flcl:   i belive it was mentioned you need to give a zip archive NAME to use for the file to go into
[12:59] <flintser> HeKToN: I dont understand? from where are you trying to drag'n'drop the file?
[13:00] <fonty> hi just have a quick question, does anyone know a link for installing ubuntu (or edubuntu) on to and toshiba satellite l800 with amd a8-4500m apu with radeon graphics?  I've installed debian and ubuntu before howver with windows 8, it always reboots when I use grub to select the ubuntu boot, windows 8 still boots but the ubuntu boot causes a reboot every time.
[13:01] <streulma> hello, what's the best way to run Ubuntu virtually? In Virtualbox?
[13:03] <dr_willis_> vbox works well. but you may want to use Lubuntu in it
[13:05] <dawkirst_> hi, how can I bind an IP address of a machine on a local network to a domain name?
[13:07] <somsip> dawkirst_: create a DNS entry under the domain
[13:07] <Chaitanya> Hi, I am facing issues with 12.10 the screen goes blan after login?
[13:08] <Chaitanya> Windows-8 + Virtual Box+ Intel HD 4000
[13:08] <Chaitanya> Planning to downgrade to 12.04, any help?
[13:09] <Milestone5> hey guys
[13:11] <flintser> dawkirst_: if you want to join the computer to the domain, i've used likewise-open succesfully, you need to create the approppriate entry for the domain dns first though.
[13:12] <dr_willis_> Chaitanya:  whats to help? you reformat and reinstall..
[13:13] <queer1> just upgraded from 12.04 LTS to 12.10, or so I thought, on "upgrade" accidentally created new home folder and user, how do I go back?
[13:13] <dr_willis_> queer1:  clarify what you mean..
[13:14] <dawkirst_> somsip, flintser thanks
[13:15] <Chaitanya> dr_willis_: Thanks, Thats what i am doing downgrading to 12.04
[13:15] <queer1> during "upgrade" process, then user setup, no option to resume current user. therefore new user was created along with corresponding home folder
[13:16] <queer1> I want  to go back to old user and back to 12.04 LTS
[13:16] <jpds> queer1: Wait, so you used a CD to reinstall with an upgrade?
[13:16] <dr_willis_> queer1:  what upgrade process? theres no downgradeing.. you reinstall.
[13:16] <queer1> correct
[13:16] <dr_willis_> if your /home/ was on its own partion. you should have told the installer  where /home/ was at.
[13:16] <dr_willis_> you can move /home/ to its own partition affterwards
[13:17] <jpds> queer1: I think you could of entered the old user details and it would of used that.
[13:17] <jpds> dr_willis_: The installer can do a reinstall while preserving /home automagically.
[13:17] <dr_willis_> jpds:  must be a new feature. ;)
[13:17] <koooli>  ( https://github.com/osdlyrics/osdlyrics ) osdlyrics in "osd" mode shows lyrics at the top-left side of desktop, But in gnome-shell the lyrics goes under the top bar?!
[13:17] <jpds> dr_willis_: Been around for.... two releases?
[13:17] <queer1> used current partition.  during install used "upgrade" option
[13:18] <jpds> dr_willis_: You select a / partition and unmark the format flag.
[13:18] <jpds> dr_willis_: Then it rm's everything but /home and installs everything.
[13:18] <dr_willis_> jpds:  hmm.. i recall always seeing a warning when doing that. ;) but i tend to do clean installs.
[13:18] <queer1> didnt give me that option
[13:18] <jpds> queer1: That's another option.
[13:18] <dr_willis_> got my home on its own partition. :) like a good little tux.
[13:19] <queer1> used graphic install interface
[13:20] <flintser> dr_willis_: i think it asks at the beginning of install if you want to a) auto-everything b) preserve user-files and do auto-restofit c) do own partitioning
[13:20] <queer1> i still have my old /home folder but that user is not usable now
[13:21] <Milestone5> i always do c)
[13:22] <dawkirst_> somsip, flintser, I've been googling, and it seems there are a few ways to create dns entries. What would your recommend though?
[13:22] <flintser> dawkirst_: is your domain Windows AD?
[13:23] <dawkirst_> flintser, no, both computers in this case on Ubuntu
[13:23] <flintser> ahh... you want to call computers with names instead of ip-addresses?
[13:24] <dawkirst_> flintser, yes sir :)
[13:24] <flintser> with two computers it is easy. just edit /etc/hosts :)
[13:24] <dawkirst_> thanks! :)
[13:25] <panorain> I just watched a small video on the zfs drive pool
[13:25] <flintser> dawkirst_: "x.x.x.x hostname" after the localhosts on both computers
[13:26] <dawkirst_> flintser, thanks
[13:27] <dawkirst_> flintser, and then should I restart anything
[13:28] <flintser> i'm not exactly sure, but you can do "sudo service networking restart" to be sure
[13:28] <dawkirst_> ok
[13:29] <Antar> Hi
[13:29] <tyler_d> hello there Antar
[13:29] <Antar> can any one help ;e please
[13:29] <flintser> then you can test it by "ping hostname" if it responds it works, also you can try "nslookup hostname" for more info
[13:30] <Antar> tyler_d
[13:30] <tyler_d> !help | Antar
[13:31] <Antar> Ok thank you
[13:35] <Antar_> Hi agin
[13:35] <Antar_> sorry it is connection problee
[13:35] <Antar_> m*
[13:35] <Antar_> i said
[13:36] <Antar_> while i am try to install ubuntu i got an error
[13:36] <Antar_> message
[13:36] <sssdf> the amazing ubuntu
[13:36] <decci> I am accessing one of my colleague machine remotely through this IP:81.140.78.x. When I logged in and did ifconfig it showed me eth0: as 192.168.x.x. Why I am not able to see public IP
[13:36] <decci> under interface
[13:36] <sssdf> each time when i want to volumn down it will go up instead
[13:36] <Antar_>  "Ubi-partman crashed.  Ubi-partman failed with exit code 10. Further information may be found in /var/log/syslog. Do you want to try running this step again before continuint? If you do not, your installation may fail entirely or may be broken."
[13:37] <ztane> decci: the address is NATted
[13:37] <Antar_> can any one help me
[13:38] <decci> ztane: I am setting up clonezzilla and need to add gateway and subnet mask for this IP : 81.140.78.x. How to find this?
[13:39] <decci> ztane: so that I can enter into /etc/network/interface file
[13:41] <XATRIX> Hi guys, can you advice me something to tune my aggressive power saving ?
[13:41] <XATRIX> I mean using powertop
[13:41] <sssdf> and what is powertop
[13:41] <XATRIX> How can i track things that are triggerring my CPU recently ?
[13:42] <sssdf> system monitor
[13:42] <ztane> decci: you do not need to see the public ip on the computer if outward network connections work
[13:43] <decci> ztane: No, I need to setup Clonezilla which require WAN and LAN IP
[13:43] <decci> ztane: http://winlinuxnet.blogspot.in/2011/07/step-by-step-installing-clonezilla.html
[13:44] <decci> ztane: auto eth0 iface eth0 inet static      address 192.168.0.33      netmask 255.255.255.0      gateway 192.168.0.1 auto eth0:0 iface eth0:0 inet static      address 192.168.1.133      netmask 255.255.255.0
[13:44] <ztane> decci: damnit you cannot setup the subnetmask for any random ip address
[13:44] <ztane> decci: it is only for ip addresses that are directly connectable, any others go through the gateway
[13:44] <decci> ztane: Random IP??? what you mean?
[13:44] <ztane> 81.140.78.x. in this case is a RANDOM IP...
[13:45] <ztane> it is outside of your colleagues local network obviously
[13:45] <decci> ztane: Its public IP right? Thats why I am able to access it remotely
[13:46] <ztane> decci: yes
[13:46] <decci> ztane: so what I need to mention under eth0 and eth0:0
[13:46] <decci> ztane: eth0:0 is the LAN and I ahve the details
[13:46] <decci> ztane: what about eth0:(WAN)
[13:47] <decci> ztane: Thats 81.x..x right?
[13:48] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:50] <ztane> I have absolutely no idea what you are doing: (
[13:52] <rcmaehl> Is there a way to turn off messages from a specific source from showing in tty terminals
[13:52] <rcmaehl> Mainly bluetooth errors
[14:03] <alex88> hello guys, how do I know to which version apt-get will update the package?
[14:05] <histo> alex88: apt-cache showpkg packagename
[14:05] <alex88> histo: thanks man!
[14:06] <thehumanelement> Hey, I have a weird problem, and I have tried Googleing for it - every time start my Ubuntu machine I can't click on the titlebars and sometimes the desktop or the Unity panel. Also it says the keyring hasn't been unlocked (which is supposed to be automatic). If I relogin, the problem goes away. Any ideas?
[14:07] <thehumanelement> the main problem is the not being able to click on titlebars and sometimes windows
[14:07] <Letatcest> anyone any idea how to get mic working in hangouts?
[14:07] <thehumanelement> am now tracking 13.04 but problem exists in 12.04 and 12.10 for me (it's probably my Radeon)
[14:07] <histo> !raring | thehumanelement
[14:08] <thehumanelement> ubottu it's the same in the last two versions
[14:08] <thehumanelement> ubottu don't worry, I won't
[14:08] <thehumanelement> Letatcest can you use your mic in other apps?
[14:08] <histo> !bug | thehumanelement
[14:09] <histo> !sound | Letatcest
[14:09] <thehumanelement> I'm not sure it is a bug, because no-one else has it
[14:09] <_DeBuG_> salvee
[14:09] <thehumanelement> I can't be the only person using a Radeon 7750 and Ubuntu
[14:17] <ix_> I have no idea how to set the brightness, it used to work with Unity (settings), but I uninstalled it and I installed openbox
[14:17] <ix_> xbacklight does not work
[14:18] <enroxorz-work> is ubuntu liveusb installation suppose to be slow?
[14:18] <ikonia> enroxorz-work: as slow as your device
[14:18] <Touhou11> enroxorz-work: It's having to read data from the CD rather than your harddisk, so you figure it out
[14:18] <ix_> enroxorz-work: it could be quite good on usb3, I think
[14:19] <enroxorz-work> well. at least its installing on my laptop.
[14:19] <ix_> how do I set the brightness from the command line?
[14:22] <samsamsam_> windowsXP option not showing during booting my pc.how do i fix this ???
[14:23] <thehumanelement> I don't know what package it is with, and so I don't know how to file a bug
[14:23] <thehumanelement> a
[14:23] <Letatcest> thehumanelement, tnx, it works in other apps, even steam ;)
[14:23] <thehumanelement> also it affected me with multiple versions
[14:24] <Letatcest> thehumanelement, but now i accidentially unplugged the quickcam en plugged it back in, now video doesn't work anymore but mic does
[14:24] <thehumanelement> well Google Hangouts might use the same plugin that Google Chat uses
[14:24] <xeorex> After enabling a module, should we do a apache2 restart or an apache2 reload is enough?
[14:24] <thehumanelement> which *might* be flash based
[14:24] <thehumanelement> so maybe you need to change your Flash microphone settings
[14:25] <MykRobinson> yup...
[14:25] <thehumanelement> try right-clicking on a Flash object in a page and see if you can access the Flash settings
[14:25] <xeorex> Ok, answer my own question. Restart may be required. In other words, just restart and get on.
[14:26] <Letatcest> thehumanelement, afaik is google voice not flash based?
[14:27] <thehumanelement> that's what I'm saying
[14:27] <thehumanelement> so try that
[14:28] <thehumanelement> if it's *not* Flash based
[14:28] <jeeves_moss> how do I search a txt file with wildcards looking for a phone number that's formatted like ***-****?
[14:28] <thehumanelement> then maybe there is a Google Plugin for it
[14:28] <thehumanelement> jeeves_moss - you'd probably want to ask on a mailing list for grep or something for that
[14:28] <thehumanelement> or a computer forensics forum
[14:28] <jeeves_moss> thehumanelement, I asked in #bash, but I think everyone is asleep
[14:28] <thehumanelement> hah
[14:29] <thehumanelement> 'fraid I can't help you with that, I suck
[14:29] <thehumanelement> Hi Daz646, another Be customer ;)
[14:29] <thehumanelement> Daz646 - did you hear the news about Sky? Bummer
[14:29] <jeeves_moss> thehumanelement, I'm just too lazy to learn scripting.  But as I keep doing htis PI work, I need to find out how to do it
[14:29] <thehumanelement> well
[14:30] <thehumanelement> if you use the right tools, you will be able to search *all* files, not just plain text files
[14:31] <jeeves_moss> lol, one would think, but I was able to do a chat dump into a txt so no sense making it more complicated
[14:31] <Lynxx> hello i have been having problems updating my system, whenever i try to run software update it says failed to connect to repository.... i have tried this several times last few days
[14:31] <Daz646> Hi humanlement, no i did not head any news about sky.
[14:32] <Lynxx> i'm on ubuntu 12.10
[14:37] <MsCourtney> Hi, Graphics acceleration does not seem to be working at all on Ubuntu 12.10
[14:37] <MsCourtney> Any ideas its an Intel GPU
[14:37] <Lynxx> this sucks no one wants to help me
[14:38] <Lynxx> wish i knew MsCourtney , have you tried searching google?
[14:38] <he77abad> #speechRecognition
[14:38] <Lynxx> i know thats probably not an answer you'd like to hear.. but it seems the helpers here are passed out
[14:38] <MsCourtney> Lynxx: Yes
[14:39] <MsCourtney> Lynxx: Does the Internet work?
[14:39] <Pici> Lynxx: I need to run in a few minutes, but if you could could get to a terminal and pastebin the output of: sudo apt-get update   we'd have some more information to work with
[14:39] <Pici> !pastebin
[14:39] <Lynxx> okay
[14:40] <MsCourtney> Lynxx: You could go in "Configure software sources" and chose a different repository mirror
[14:41] <Lynxx> Pici,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5576436/
[14:42] <Lynxx> ok MsCourtney
[14:43] <mike4_> hi is there a usb-boot image I can use to repair my grubloader? Ive installed windows and I cant see the linux loader anymore
[14:43] <jhutchins_wk> How do I tell what runlevel a system is at?
[14:44] <Pici> jhutchins_wk: type 'runlevel' in a terminal
[14:44] <Pici> !runlevel | jhutchins_wk also see
[14:44] <Pici> Lynxx: The ppa that you have added for 'myunity' does either no longer exists, or does not offer any packages for your release of Ubuntu
[14:45] <Lynxx> okay well how do i remove that? just edit the sources list?
[14:45] <param> how to guest mount in ubuntu in qemu
[14:45] <param> ?
[14:46] <Pici> Lynxx: If you modified your sources.list file directly, yes, otherwise look in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/  OR you could use the software sources tool and uncheck the appropriate repo there.
[14:46] <Lynxx> i didnt modify it myself so
[14:49] <aurelie_> #
[14:51] <Lynxx> okay  i just unchecked those two.. will find out if this works
[14:53] <decci> how to run pptx in ubunto i tried to open in libreoffice but no luck
[14:53] <Lynxx> ty so much so far the updater works
[14:54] <Lynxx> really appreciate it
[14:54] <Pici> yay
[14:54] <Lynxx> i dont want to have a unsecure screwed up machine, and i was wondering why it wasnt downloading updates as usual... it is very appreciated pici :)
[14:54] <te> jeeves_moss: egrep -Hon "[0-9][0-9][0-9]-[0-9][0-9][0-9]-[0-9][0-9][0-9][0-9]" *
[14:55] <enroxorz-work> figured out the issue. the usb port i was on was slower than molassas on a cold winter morn
[14:55] <Pici> te: why not just "[0-9]{3}-[0-9]{3}-[0-9]{4}"
[14:56] <param> how to mount guest in ubuntu
[14:56] <te> Pici: Yep, that's shorter.  works
[14:56] <decci> how to run pptx in ubunto i tried to open in libreoffice but no luck
[14:57] <airos> hello everyone, I have a problem, I want to send my logs to a server log on the same LAN. I have configured both client and server log, but on my client, the tcp packet sent is rejected:Mar  1 15:56:36 Jennings syslog-ng[15049]: Syslog connection failed; fd='13', server='AF_INET(10.1.0.51:1999)', error='Connection refused (111)', time_reopen='60' . Anyone can help me?
[14:58] <nightporter_> Please say me good html php editor for ubuntu, may be with directories tree
[14:58] <nibbler> airos: your port and your protocol are strange
[14:58] <Aladin> hi
[14:59] <xeorex> nightporter_:  sublime text 2
[14:59] <nibbler> airos: default port is 512, and default protocol is udb
[14:59] <nibbler> udp, sorry
[14:59] <Aladin> !list
[14:59] <airos> ok I have changed that to udp
[14:59] <Aladin> ok
[14:59] <airos> but there is no firewall rules which can block the traffic, I don't understrand why the port number is important
[15:00] <xeorex> nightporter_:  netbeans, eclipse, they are all good IDE. Try them and see which one you feel most comfortable with.
[15:00] <nibbler> airos: if you don't understand why port numbers are important, you should research some basic (ip) networking.
[15:00] <Aladin> i not understad
[15:00] <Aladin> help me
[15:01] <lmat> How do I stop wget? I see a few entries from Google which all recommend CTRL+C, but this doesn't suffice. I specified the -k option (convert links) which doesn't happen if I interrupt with ^c
[15:01] <Aladin> very difficolt
[15:01] <lmat> I had to specify a rather deep recursion length, but I don't want to wait for it to stop. Eventually, I want to kill it, *but* I want it to convert the links when done.
[15:01] <airos> nibbler, yes ok but I have specified that I sent the logs on port 1999 and, on the server, my source listen to port 1999
[15:02] <nibbler> airos: it does not read like anything would be listening on the server 1999
[15:02] <xeorex> lmat: using top, then kill the process
[15:02] <xeorex> lmat: maybe?
[15:02] <lmat> xeorex: That's even worse :)
[15:03] <xeorex> lmat: Then I might learn something today
[15:04] <lmat> :)
[15:06] <airos> nibbler, I have tried your configuration and there is still the same proble: "Mar  1 16:05:38 Jennings syslog-ng[15481]: Syslog connection broken; fd='9', server='AF_INET(10.1.0.51:512)', time_reopen='60'"
[15:06] <nibbler> airos: check on the server which port is open (netstat, ip ....)
[15:06] <xeorex> lmat: have you tried unplug the RJ45 at the back of the server?
[15:08] <airos> nibbler, ok my port 512 isn't in LISTEN state, how I'm supposed to open it?
[15:09] <CrazyGangster> hello ppl, there is a way to recover a password hidden with asterisks from a java application?
[15:10] <compdoc> the asterisks replace the actual letters of the password. nothing to recover
[15:11] <ASHER1> Hello
[15:11] <CrazyGangster> compdoc: even with xwininfo?
[15:12] <ASHER1> i have something problem i install ubuntu version 10.04 and i no see in folder var folder www
[15:12] <ASHER1> what i need to do please?
[15:12] <xeorex> lmat: ctrl+c, then you can resume later on using "$ wget -c path-to-same-file
[15:13] <ASHER1> help please?
[15:14] <mdh> ASHER1: isn't that folder for a web server?
[15:14] <ASHER1> yes
[15:14] <nibbler> ASHER1: just create it - but make sure you have a webserver isntalled (sudo apt-get install apache2) and why would you use 10.4?
[15:15] <ASHER1> i try install something and i no see in /var/www
[15:15] <ASHER1> if i install apache i have folder www?
[15:15] <nibbler>  ASHER1 to create a folder you can use "mkdir" in the commandline, or just some file manager
[15:16] <Eagleman> How can i set back the mac address, i changed it with ifconfig hw ether  but i want the default address back
[15:16] <ASHER1> i try
[15:16] <ASHER1> this no give to me
[15:17] <ASHER1> what i need to do?
[15:17] <ASHER1> install apache and i get folder in var?
[15:18] <xeorex> ASHER1: sudo mkdir /var/www then sudo chown www-data:www-data /var/www
[15:18] <ASHER1> ok but i no see in var folder www
[15:18] <ASHER1> then how i can make?
[15:19] <excalibr> im wondering if it would be safe to update offline ubuntu on other part through chroot..anyone ever tried that?
[15:19] <Eagleman> How can i set back the mac address, i changed it with ifconfig hw ether  but i want the default address back
[15:20] <xeorex> ASHER1:  do you have a var folder at all?
[15:20] <xeorex> ASHER1: forget that question, sigh
[15:20] <ASHER1> no
[15:20] <ASHER1> i inside to file
[15:20] <ASHER1> and i inside to folder var
[15:21] <ASHER1> and i no see folder www
[15:21] <xeorex> What do you get when you run pwd
[15:21] <Neo-51> Is ubuntu still so unfriendly ?
[15:21] <ASHER1> this version 10
[15:21] <mdh> Neo-51: unfriendly to who?
[15:21] <xeorex> Neo-51: no, it is the easiest.
[15:22] <xeorex> Neo-51: i'm in love with apt-get and service
[15:23] <xeorex> ASHER1: did you run "pwd"?
[15:24] <Eagleman> How can i set back the mac address, i changed it with ifconfig hw ether  but i want the default address back
[15:27] <Neo-51> xeorex:  & mdh > I don't wanna have to write commands for the simple applications like unzipping, installing etc...
[15:28] <xeorex> Neo-51: apt-get, that's what I meant. The new versions are never too late too.
[15:28] <mdh> Neo-51: you don't have to, theres gui apps for installing stuff and file roller to unzip
[15:29] <xeorex> Neo-51: sudo apt-get install mysql-server mysql-client, that it, you have just installed MySQL.
[15:31] <xeorex> Neo-51:  mdh: I see, I meant server side. I use Desktop too, but Unity is a pain as fas as I am concerned. I like the Window Snapping by default. Ubuntu is very stable overall compared to other I tried.
[15:33] <xeorex> mdh:  Neo-51: They did work on the Unity taskbar, and it is getting better.
[15:34] <xeorex> I wish one day they'll with the Snipping tool like on Mac. I miss that a lot.
[15:36] <nibbler> xeorex: like shutter?
[15:39] <xeorex> nibbler: yes, like shutter. I'll have a try. It seems a longer process at first sight but maybe they are some nifty shortcuts to look at.
[15:39] <lordcyfer> Hello everybody
[15:43] <lmat> xeorex: okay, You may learn something today: http://superuser.com/questions/559400/stop-wget-but-allow-convert-links
[15:43] <lmat> lordcyfer: yo
[15:44] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[15:48] <asdjaputra> Flood?
[15:48] <CrazyGangster> test
[15:49] <gordon__> can anyone help me with my video card drivers i have a video glitch
[15:50] <kerro> hello..
[15:50] <histo> gordon__: what kind of video card?
[15:50] <lordcyfer> I am doing a pressed config files and my late_command fail with an exit code 100 i am tired of that
[15:51] <gordon__> nvidia gtx 670
[15:51] <histo> !nvidia | gordon__
[15:53] <Dennis8162_Ubunt> Umm hi
[15:53] <Dennis8162_Ubunt> Im running ubuntu from the disk :3
[15:53] <Dennis8162_Ubunt> wait why are all the cobinations different
[15:53] <Dennis8162_Ubunt> the has is on shift and 3
[15:53] <Dennis8162_Ubunt> hash*
[15:54] <Pilif12p> did you choose a different keyboard layout than what you normally use?
[15:54] <Dennis8162_Ubunt> not sure, i just shose @try ubuntu@
[15:54] <Pilif12p> ah, it probably use en-us keyboard before you install
[15:54] <histo> !keyboard | Dennis8162_Ubunt
[15:55] <Dennis8162_Ubunt> ok
[15:55] <airlynx> I've installed Ubuntu 12.10 on my new laptop, but Windows 8 is not showing up in grub, even after update-grub.  The Win8 partition is still there but I'm unable to access it (gives an error about the NTFS partition is hibernated), but I have a bad feeling that the Windows installation has a different boot sector when I installed Ubuntu, how do I tell?
[15:55] <Dennis8162_Ubunt> I want to install ubunti along side windows, can i choose what drive it installs on?
[15:55] <decci> I am tryign to setup Clonezilla server for fresh installation of Windows images
[15:56] <dr_willis_> Dennis8162_Ubunt:  yes
[15:56] <decci> on client machines
[15:56] <decci> Any idea where shall I put WIndows image which I created
[15:56] <Aeros> I am trying to get my Behringer Amp to work with Wine, but can't seam to get the usb to recognize the amp. It shows in the lsusb from the terminal
[15:56] <gordon__> i tried the url for Https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto and i get the message The requested URL /Community/VideoDriverHowto was not found on this server.
[15:57] <Dennis8162_Ubunt> i never nknew you could use the proframs when runnign from disk
[15:57] <Dennis8162_Ubunt> this is great <3
[15:58] <Dennis8162_Ubunt> If only I could use my windows programs on ubuntu :P
[15:58] <coder2> can any body help me on this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/262735/ubuntu-12-10-not-booting-after-upgrading-kernel-to-3-5-0-25-generic
[15:59] <Dennis8162_Ubunt> Does andone think @im free@ hen they switch from windws to ubuntu?
[16:00] <lordcyfer> histo
[16:00] <lordcyfer> I need you
[16:00] <compdoc> you used to need me :(
[16:02] <lordcyfer> .lol
[16:02] <lordcyfer> I'll show you my bug
[16:02] <hellonick> hello
[16:03] <lordcyfer> I am doing a auto install dvd that install bacula
[16:03] <histo> lordcyfer: huh?
[16:03] <lordcyfer> sec i prepare my paste
[16:03] <histo> !wine | denni
[16:05] <histo> !wine > dennis8162
[16:05] <devslash> Is anyone using the latest nightly of ubuntu touch
[16:05] <histo> !phone | devslash
[16:11] <lordcyfer> Here is my problem : http://paste.ubuntu.com/5576665/
[16:13] <makara> how can I make the file operation dialog visible. I'm moving masses of files and can't find the dialog since a few days ago
[16:15] <makara> ok. I think its a bug in Nautilus
[16:15] <tapun42> hi al
[16:15] <oneliner> makara what options you get when left clicking on the home folder of the left hand side tab? using unity?
[16:16] <gordon__> if i dont find my video card at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCardsNvidia will it be able to be supported or not ?
[16:16] <thtanner> What card?
[16:16] <thtanner> That list is.. older than the hills
[16:16] <gordon__> nvidia geforce gtx 460
[16:17] <thtanner> yes install the nvidia proprietary drivers
[16:17] <gordon__> thanks
[16:17] <thtanner> that list hasn't been touched in about 3 years it seems
[16:18] <makara> oneliner, I don't know what you mean by 'home folder'
[16:19] <gordon__> how do i find out how to install the ncidie proprietary drivers
[16:20] <gordon__> found it never mind
[16:21] <makara> oneliner, there's nautilus's orange folder but it's not a separate window
[16:21] <makara> oneliner, I close it and then there's nothing, but the files operations continue
[16:22] <makara> oneliner, I tried wmctrl -R "File Operations" and still nothing
[16:24] <surxenberg> how can i disable the framebuffer console in ubuntu 12.10?
[16:27] <surxenberg> you guys are a bunch of fags and pansies
[16:28] <tgm4883> wow
[16:28]  * tgm4883 wonders if the mods will jump on that and ban him or not
[16:29] <lordcyfer> I have a pressed setting problem with late_command i needed help Here is my problem : http://paste.ubuntu.com/5576665/
[16:29] <BluesKaj> he's a chicken , insults then leaves immediately
[16:31] <lordcyfer> imagine how your life is boring if you spend your time doing that
[16:31] <Ghost1227> So every time I restart my computer, it reverts my video settings to mirrored display. Any thoughts on why this might happen?
[16:33] <dr_willis_> Ghost1227: what video chipset.. you are refering to the login screen doing this also?
[16:33] <zAo^> Does anyone play ta3d? I installed the packages, but dont know how to run it! :$
[16:34] <marksaitis> Here is a question for you boys :) I have a debian based server on the internet directly connected to an internet IP. Can I make some virtual adapters on it and use vpn and connect some stuff together so my test machine from virtualbox would feel like it is inside a private lan with my server? Any ideas on this one?
[16:35] <yeehaw> marksaitis: Virtualbox already supports host networking doesn't it?
[16:35] <mz`> marksaitis: use a pvlan adapter directly
[16:35] <mz`> yeehaw: exactly
[16:35] <yeehaw> marksaitis: http://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch06.html
[16:35] <marksaitis> yeehaw, it does... but the scenario I am speeking is a bit more complicated isnt it
[16:36] <marksaitis> pvlan ?
[16:36] <marksaitis> my linux server has no GUI
[16:36] <marksaitis> and i am in my home network and server is in datacentre
[16:36] <mz`> and the vm is on your home computer ?
[16:36] <mz`> private vlan
[16:37] <marksaitis> mz`, yes. vm is on my home computer :)
[16:37] <marksaitis> and it will be changing locations
[16:37] <mz`> marksaitis: anyway OF COURSE your server has NO gui :D
[16:37] <yeehaw> marksaitis: Put openvpn server on the server
[16:37] <mz`> marksaitis: yup, vpn on the server, client on vm
[16:38] <mz`> yeehaw: :)
[16:38] <marksaitis> yeah for sure :))) I was thinking whether openvpn is the only way
[16:38] <mz`> ssh tunnel ?
[16:38] <yeehaw> marksaitis: Or IPSEC or anything like that
[16:38] <marksaitis> I can't do client on vm, I need my vm to feel like in the network even before OS boots :)
[16:38] <Ghost1227> dr_willis_: login screen seems to work fine, it's a GeForce 2800
[16:38] <Ghost1227> *8200
[16:38] <mz`> marksaitis: before ? hem, you can't ;)
[16:38] <marksaitis> with openvpn will I be able to create virtual adapter on the server?
[16:39] <yeehaw> marksaitis: Yes
[16:39] <oconnore> Why does 'sudo apt-get install libftdi-dev:i386' try to remove gcc, my x86/64 version of libftdi, and a bunch of other things?
[16:39] <dr_willis_> Ghost1227:  your user can run nvidia-settings and configure it on a per user basis
[16:39] <mz`> oconnore: diff of arch
[16:39] <marksaitis> mz`, sure I can, i done it before a year ago, it's just all was happening locally between my vm's ... cant remember myself. everything is possible :)
[16:39] <yeehaw> marksaitis: It creates a TUN/TAP device that is used for the openvpn connection
[16:39] <oconnore> mz`: diff of arch?
[16:39] <Ghost1227> dr_willis_: I have...
[16:40] <mz`> you are using x64 system currently and trying to install 386 packages with dependencies
[16:40] <mz`> s/386/x86
[16:40] <antz___> hello. I am reading this and I am a bit confused regarding wireless. So my computer has its own network card? along with "Chipset"???? how does ubuntu knows how to use these?
[16:40] <marksaitis> mz`, yeehaw I suppose I connect my HOST thru openvpn and then bridge my vm with tap adapter
[16:41] <oconnore> mz`: I know that. It's supported with multiarch.
[16:41] <oconnore> mz`: or at least, it's supposed to be supported.
[16:41] <yeehaw> marksaitis: I think that will work without connecting the adapters if you NAT the vm to the host
[16:41] <oconnore> mz`: dpkg --print-foreign-architectures -> i386
[16:42] <marksaitis> I wish there was an quick and easy straight forward openvpn install guide :D
[16:42] <yeehaw> s/to/trough/
[16:42] <antz___> i have openvpn installed
[16:42] <antz___> you just have to tunnel it
[16:42] <marksaitis> yeehaw, yeah, I will either bridge or smth, must work :)))
[16:42] <mz`> multiarch.. are you using that into production ,
[16:42] <mz`> ?
[16:42] <marksaitis> so openvpn server will also create private network on the server yeah
[16:42] <yeehaw> marksaitis: https://help.ubuntu.com/11.10/serverguide/openvpn.html
[16:43] <marksaitis> seen that one, long isnt it :) but I bet that's what it is then
[16:43] <moog1> hello everybody, somebody can help me for uprade firefox to the 19 from 14 on backtrack 5r3 ?
[16:43] <marksaitis> thanx anyways, I am going for this one :)
[16:43] <yeehaw> marksaitis: It's not a lot of work, it's just described very thorough
[16:43] <Pici> !backtrack | marksaitis
[16:43] <marksaitis> I hope so :)
[16:44] <mdh> anyone want to #wolfgame?
[16:44] <llutz> Pici: moog1 ;)
[16:44] <marksaitis> ftw :)
[16:44] <Ntemis> am facing permissions problems all day
[16:44] <Ntemis> i cant do anything else and i need some help
[16:44] <Ntemis> some history
[16:45] <yeehaw> Ntemis: Well this is the support channel ;-)
[16:45] <Ntemis> i had raid0 with fstab etc etc ext4 user 0 0
[16:45] <Ntemis> all ok
[16:45] <Ntemis> then i backup
[16:45] <Ntemis> made raid5 out of 4 hdd 2tb
[16:45] <Ntemis> mounted again
[16:46] <Ntemis> lost raid name
[16:46] <holywater> hii is their any release date of next ubuntu
[16:46] <holywater> ?
[16:46] <Ntemis> from md0 to md127
[16:46] <Ntemis> anyway fix it with uuid
[16:46] <Ntemis> then i thought time to get using it
[16:46] <Ntemis> i couldnt write on the mounted partition
[16:46] <yeehaw> !release | holywater
[16:47] <Ntemis> i chmod -r all the mounted share
[16:47] <Ntemis> 777
[16:47] <holywater> thanks yeehaw and ubottu
[16:47] <Ntemis> all seemed to be ok
[16:47] <llutz> !enter | Ntemis
[16:47] <totic> Hi, my Ubuntu 12.04 keeps freezing (not even the caps lock work) about twice a day, what files should I look at to try to determine whats causing it to freeze?
[16:47] <yeehaw> Ntemis: You did 777 on the complete filesystem?
[16:47] <Ntemis> then i installed torrent client and newsgroups client
[16:48] <Ntemis> they cant write on the partition
[16:48] <K4k> Hi, in Ubuntu 12.10, when I choose "Change desktop background" from the right click menu on the desktop, it just takes me to the system settings window. There does not appear to be a way to change the desktop background. Has this changed since 12.04?
[16:48] <Ntemis> so i went back to fstab and edit again the uuid
[16:49] <yeehaw> totic: Try the log files in /var/log/
[16:49] <holywater> cool next release is on aprill :)
[16:50] <Ntemis> now my fstab is like this
[16:50] <Ntemis> UUID=46273c1f-5095-46c1-9642-2480fdc48f43	/home/demetris/Shares	ext4        defaults,acl,user_xattr,usrjquota=aquota.user,grpjquota=aquota.group,jqfmt=vfsv1,noatime,nodiratime      0      2
[16:50] <Ntemis> still no fix
[16:50] <yeehaw> Ntemis: Stop and use paste.ubuntu.com
[16:50] <Ntemis> please help
[16:51] <yeehaw> Ntemis: First of all, did  you chmod 777 the complete filesystem?
[16:51] <Ntemis> yes
[16:51] <yeehaw> Ntemis: I would suggest a complete reinstall. Fixing that will be an utter pain in the ass. Salvage all important data to dropbox or something like that and reinstall
[16:52] <Ntemis> reinstall what?
[16:52] <blazemore> You cannot recover easily from a chmod 777 -R /
[16:52] <yeehaw> Ntemis: Ubuntu
[16:52] <blazemore> Ntemis: Ubuntu
[16:52] <Ntemis> omg
[16:52] <Ntemis> am on a server
[16:52] <Ntemis> 12.04.2
[16:52] <yeehaw> Ntemis: Not production I hope?
[16:53] <Ntemis> not yet no
[16:53] <Ntemis> what i did wrong?
[16:53] <blazemore> Ntemis: I didn't get the whole discussion, but did you break it?
[16:53] <Ntemis> why 777 hurts so much
[16:53] <yeehaw> Ntemis: Is it locally? And do you have data?
[16:53] <K4k> 777 shouldn't prevent write capability
[16:53] <blazemore> Ntemis: http://serverfault.com/questions/364677/why-is-chmod-r-777-destructive
[16:54] <K4k> oh, 777 on /, nvm
[16:54] <bijoo> Hi; anyone got NVIDIA GTX 670MX (or similar card) to properly work on Ubuntu 12.10? Believe me when I say I stayed up till 5am trying to fix it and again for past 3 hours since I woke up.
[16:54] <bijoo> FYI I've googled everything I could find and tried many different solutions. Please help if you are knowledge-able in this area.
[16:55] <Ntemis> blazemore: is not on os is 777 only on raid5 share partition
[16:55] <Ntemis> i can destroy it and redo
[16:55] <blazemore> Oh
[16:55] <blazemore> Do that, then
[16:55] <Ntemis> but why
[16:55] <yeehaw> Ntemis: There is no data on it?
[16:55] <Ntemis> some gigs
[16:55] <blazemore> bijoo: Have you tried using the built-in driver installer tool?
[16:55] <Ntemis> not much
[16:56] <Ntemis> i can stop raid, reformat and re mount
[16:56] <bijoo> blazemore: the built-in driver installer tool? Is that the J- something? I actually have not, but I'll try googling it right now.
[16:56] <Ntemis> will be ok then right?
[16:56] <yeehaw> Ntemis: What manual did you use for the creation of the Raid set?
[16:57] <Ntemis> from web links
[16:57] <blazemore> bijoo: that should be the first thing to try
[16:57] <blazemore> bijoo: jockey-gtk
[16:57] <bijoo> blazemore: if you're referring to sudo apt-get install nvidia-* (e.g. settings, current-dev, etc.) I have.
[16:57] <bijoo> Oh ok.Thanks blazemore .
[16:57] <yeehaw> Ntemis: That's a big place you know, the internet
[16:57] <yeehaw> Ntemis: Please be more specific
[16:58] <Ntemis> yeehaw: was something like mdadm --create raid=5 /dev/md0 devices=4 /dev/sdx /dev/sdy etc
[16:58] <Ntemis> standard things
[16:58] <yeehaw> Ntemis: Try reading trough this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=517282
[16:59] <yeehaw> Ntemis: It might help you understand what you did wrong and also: Never chmod 777 anything, ever
[16:59] <Ntemis> ok
[16:59] <Ntemis> thanks for the link
[16:59] <Ntemis> i am 100% my creation was the same
[16:59] <Ntemis> exept devices=4
[17:00] <yeehaw> Ntemis: Well than you should have no problems creating a working RAID-set if that's the case..
[17:00] <blazemore> yeehaw: "Never chmod 777 anything, ever" is a bold statement
[17:00] <Ntemis> after mdstat said all was ok and raid was clean
[17:01] <Ntemis> i did this to a clean raid 5
[17:01] <Ntemis> mkfs.ext4 -b 4096 -E stride=128,stripe-width=384 /dev/md0
[17:01] <yeehaw> blazemore: Yeah I know, there are a few exceptions like the /tmp folder
[17:01] <Ntemis> mkfs.ext4 -O 64bit /dev/md0
[17:01] <Ntemis> tune2fs -m 0 /dev/md0
[17:01] <Ntemis> and i started using it
[17:01] <yeehaw> blazemore: But for normal users it's not needed often. And you should not use it if you do not know what it does
[17:01] <Ntemis> aor i thought i could
[17:01] <Ntemis> ;p
[17:02] <Ntemis> alas
[17:02] <Ntemis> permission demon strike
[17:02] <Ntemis> ah ofc i mount it first :)
[17:03] <Ntemis> as i said i had raid0
[17:03] <Ntemis> so i just mount -a
[17:03] <Ntemis> and all was back to normal, or i thought
[17:04] <Ntemis> now am lost
[17:04] <yeehaw> Ntemis: I'm not a tutorial. And I can't magically tell you what you did wrong. But I do know that the tutorial I linked should work given you follow it properly
[17:04] <Quest> how to invert colors (black goes white and white versa) in krita?
[17:04] <Ntemis> yeehaw: okey
[17:04] <blazemore> Quest: Filter -> Adjust -> Invert
[17:04] <Dennis8162> Hey, wheere can i get that ubuntu wallpaper of the train station, its not inculded in the lates version :(
[17:05] <Quest> blazemore,  great. how to make an image as grey scale?
[17:05] <Ntemis> yeehaw: i just saqw where i did wrong
[17:05] <Ntemis> saw
[17:05] <zAo^> Dennis8162: http://nzbindex.nl/download/23147368/Total-Annihilation-Classic-No-install-just-run-total-annihilation.rar-18.nzb << one of these?
[17:05] <Ntemis> sudo chown -R tore:tore /home/tore/raid
[17:05] <sgfgdf> hello, guys! i have ubuntu 2.6.38-8-server as a virtual machine, and now i want to upgrade postgresql 8.4 to 9.x, but apt-cache search postgresql shows only old versions. i did "sudo apt-get update" before.
[17:06] <blazemore> Quest: http://google.com
[17:06] <Dennis8162> ahh kust found it
[17:06] <Dennis8162> its the 2nd one down here: http://www.techdrivein.com/2011/10/new-set-of-14-wallpapers-for-ubuntu.html
[17:06] <blazemore> Quest: Not to be rude, but I just googled "Krita invert colours" - I've never even heard of krita before today
[17:06] <yeehaw> sgfgdf: What does cat /ets/lsb-release give you?
[17:06] <zAo^> sgfgdf: you should upgrade Ubuntu I guess
[17:06] <sgfgdf> yeehaw, DISTRIB_RELEASE=11.04
[17:07] <Quest> blazemore,  i did the same. nevermind. thanks
[17:07] <yeehaw> sgfgdf: Upgrade your OS or use a third party ppa
[17:08] <airlynx> I solved my problem of Win8 not showing up in grub using boot-repair, this should really be included in the Ubuntu repositories
[17:08] <MsCourtney> Hi, I graphics acceleration is not working on 12.10. Its an Intel GPU. Any ideas?
[17:08] <Dennis8162> thanks
[17:08] <blazemore> airlynx: update-grub is included by default with Ubuntu
[17:08] <sgfgdf> yeehaw, what is the painless way to upgrade without breaking things (and installing minimal thnigs needed)? it is server version so there is no GUI fortunately.
[17:09] <airlynx> blazemore, update-grub was not doing the trick, I needed to use boot-repair because Ubuntu and Windows had different mbr's on my hdd
[17:09] <yeehaw> sgfgdf: Sudo do-release-upgrade -a
[17:09] <kerro> good night everyone
[17:09] <yeehaw> sgfgdf: If I recall correctly
[17:10] <yeehaw> sgfgdf: Without -a apparently
[17:10] <yeehaw> sgfgdf: But I would recommend doing a back-up. It might cause weird problems
[17:11] <sgfgdf> yeehaw, even if i don't have GUI?
[17:11] <Santosh> Hello !
[17:11] <zero_coder> hi Santosh
[17:12] <Guest44935> Im new to Xchat. This is very new to me.
[17:12] <thinkn> how does i give a standard user rights to start an application that you need to be root to access?
[17:12] <lordcyfer> @sgfgdf you want to upgrade
[17:12] <lordcyfer> or a distribution upgrade ?
[17:13] <sgfgdf> lordcyfer, i don't have postgresql 9.x when i search for it with apt-cache search postgresql so it appears i have DISTRIB_RELEASE=11.04 and people suggested to upgrade ubuntu.
[17:13] <MoPac> Hi - I'm having an odd problem re: files in a mounted encfs folder. If I put openvpn client certificate files on my desktop, the connection works.  But if I drop those same files to a mounted encfs folder and point the openvpn configuration to them there, the connection fails.  Any ideas?
[17:13] <llutz> thinkn: read "man sudoers"
[17:13] <zAo^> thinkn: like which application? It really depends
[17:13] <yeehaw> sgfgdf: Yes
[17:14] <lordcyfer> so
[17:14] <thinkn> zAo^, openvpn in this case
[17:14] <lordcyfer> You need a distribution upgrade
[17:14] <lordcyfer> sudo su -
[17:14] <lordcyfer> to be root
[17:14] <lordcyfer> then
[17:14] <zAo^> thinkn: read the sudoers manual :)
[17:14] <lordcyfer> apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade
[17:14] <thinkn> so i dont have to login as admin each time to start the vpn client, for then later log into the regular user
[17:14] <lordcyfer> then apt-get dist-upgrade
[17:14] <Soham> What is this ? how oto change the nick name ?!
[17:15] <thinkn> zAo^, where is it the manual?
[17:15] <lifebird64> can anyone point me in the right direction to even START troubleshooting this: Ubuntu 12.10 suspend seems to work, but will not wake up. Is there some guide to intelligently working through this issue?
[17:15] <flcl> guys, how to check who is owner of file?
[17:15] <sgfgdf> lordcyfer, yeehaw points me to "sudo do-release-upgrade" and do a backup before it could broke some things.
[17:15] <yeehaw> lordcyfer: WRONG, apt-get dist-upgrade doesn't do a distribution upgrade
[17:15] <zAo^> thinkn: did you read it??
[17:15] <flcl> ls -la has two columns, which one is the owner?
[17:15] <zAo^> thinkn: or just add the user to the sudo group... (will be full root!!)
[17:15] <lordcyfer> sicne yehen yeehaw ?
[17:15] <yeehaw> lordcyfer: Only if you first manually edit the sources.list
[17:16] <llutz> flcl: 1st
[17:16] <kodak> ciaolist
[17:16] <thinkn> zAo^, no, where is the manual?
[17:16] <lordcyfer> yeehaw: is totally right
[17:16] <MoPac> re: my problem above -- could this have to do with user permissions to read the plaintest data from encfs?
[17:16] <zAo^> thinkn: man sudoers
[17:16] <yeehaw> lordcyfer: What?
[17:16] <lordcyfer> i forgot this step
[17:16] <glphvgacs> hello, i have libncurses5-dev installed on the system but i get this error msg:
[17:16] <glphvgacs> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -libncursesw
[17:16] <lordcyfer> it was since when
[17:16] <yeehaw> lordcyfer: And the do-release-upgrade command is the best way in ubuntu
[17:16] <sgfgdf> lordcyfer, so you suggest too to use his way?
[17:16] <glphvgacs> what's the right switch to pass to ld?
[17:16] <thinkn> in terminal you mean?(im sitting on a windows computer now, dont have inet on my ubuntu pc
[17:17] <yeehaw> !do-release-upgrade | sgfgdf
[17:17] <lordcyfer> I am old skool
[17:17] <zAo^> lol; I still do that too :$
[17:17] <yeehaw> !distupgrade | sgfgdf
[17:17] <sgfgdf> yeehaw, lordcyfer, thank you very much for the help, guys!
[17:17] <lordcyfer> but backup
[17:17] <yeehaw> !upgrade | sgfgdf
[17:18] <thinkn> zAo^, : should i type that in terminal you mean? "man sudoers" ?
[17:18] <lordcyfer> and also check if you really need postgres
[17:18] <zAo^> thinkn: yes
[17:18] <Capprentice> Anyone have exprience of installing Cadence on Ubuntu 12 ?
[17:18] <thinkn> i will not give root access to a regular user, then the purpose is gone ;)
[17:18] <lordcyfer> guys is it a joke
[17:18] <thinkn> ok, thnx, then i have some reading to doo tonight
[17:18] <flcl> llutz: thx!
[17:19] <lordcyfer> This guide tell you to get the version with the GUI
[17:19] <lordcyfer> Let's be serious a bit
[17:19] <thinkn> zAo^, is it a manual for how to get openvpn to start automatic when i start my computer as well?
[17:19] <zAo^> thinkn: sorry, no
[17:20] <thinkn> im tired of wring all the commands everytime internet fall out, 00
[17:20] <thinkn> ++
[17:20] <lordcyfer> do a crontab
[17:20] <flcl> how to see all users list?
[17:20] <lordcyfer> with a little check every minutes
[17:20] <lordcyfer> and restart your openvpn client in case of
[17:20] <llutz> thinkn: why don't you use the vpn-addon in networkmanager, it doesn't need root
[17:20] <lordcyfer> do this crontab as root
[17:20] <thinkn> lordcyfer, "do a crontab" iam new to that phrase
[17:21] <kerro> how to look pasted code in paste.ubuntu.com ?
[17:21] <thinkn> llutz, : because it wont work on openvpn anymore
[17:21] <thinkn> after ubuntu 10
[17:21] <llutz> thinkn: works fine here
[17:21] <thinkn> i cant get it in there
[17:21] <lordcyfer> @thinkn you don't know what is a crontab ?
[17:21] <thinkn> lordcyfer, not sure
[17:21] <zAo^> flcl: cat /etc/passwd
[17:22] <thinkn> lordcyfer, maybe i know in my language
[17:22] <thinkn> but i dont know crontab no
[17:22] <llutz> flcl: getent passwd
[17:22] <lordcyfer> google it
[17:23] <lordcyfer> it is the basic unix scheduler since 30 years
[17:24] <thinkn> lordcyfer, ooh, crontab was what i where looking for!
[17:24] <thinkn> thnx!
[17:24] <bijoo> Hey blazemore;  i used software-properties-gtk (replacement of jockey-gtk) and I don't see any options for the Additional Drivers for NVIDIA; still stuck; any help is appreciated.
[17:24] <thinkn> im still a noob to linux even though i have used it some years
[17:25] <Capprentice> How to stop mysql from autostarting on ubuntu 12 ?
[17:25] <Capprentice> any help ??
[17:25] <flcl> llutz: thanks! :)
[17:25] <Capprentice> hi flcl can you help me ?
[17:26] <llutz> Capprentice: sudo sh -c "echo 'manual' > /etc/init/mysql.override"
[17:26] <Capprentice> ok.
[17:26] <Capprentice> thanks @ llutz. What will the command do ?
[17:27] <llutz> Capprentice: create a special file which tells upstart not to start mysql
[17:27] <Capprentice> ok . Is this I will need ?
[17:27] <Nite_shades> anyone using chrubuntu
[17:27] <Capprentice> afetr doing this can I still be able to start as sudo service mysql start ?
[17:28] <thinkn> Capprentice, to you have a comand for autostarting openvpn at startup as well ?
[17:28] <thinkn> :)
[17:28] <llutz> Capprentice: yes, http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/
[17:28] <thinkn> do you*
[17:28] <Capprentice> k
[17:28] <flcl> I can change owner of file from root to "admin" and from "admin" to root... But I can not change owner to user "tester". What can be the reason? I get no error message
[17:28] <llutz> fcoury: do you have a user "tester"?
[17:28] <flcl> yes
[17:29] <flcl> although when I try to login to SSH as "tester" PuTTY just closes itself...
[17:29] <llutz> flcl: "getent passwd tester "
[17:30] <flcl> tester:x:500:502::/var/www/admin/data/www/testores.fullycoolly.com:/bin/date
[17:30] <flcl> ffffffffffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
[17:30] <flcl> please don't hack me
[17:31] <flcl> :)
[17:31] <llutz> flcl: how did you add that user? bin/date as shell, interesting
[17:31]  * LaserShark hacks you
[17:31] <llutz> flcl: that user cannot login /no valid login shell/, but why chown fails... what was your exact command?
[17:31] <flcl> T_T
[17:32] <CrazyGangster> hello ppl, it is possible to recover a java application password behind asterisks though memory dump?
[17:32] <lordcyfer> @thinkn if you use the standard package
[17:32] <lordcyfer> oh no the client sorry
[17:32] <lordcyfer> add the command et then of /etc/rc.local
[17:33] <shark> eae, galera
[17:33] <shark> do bang
[17:33] <tjingboem> can 2 nvidia cards produce different images on 4 monitors? (like 2 * twinview)
[17:33] <shark> No, they can't
[17:33] <shark> you should .
[17:33] <tjingboem> pitty
[17:34] <thinkn> lordcyfer, add the command "et" ? then of "/etc/rc.local" ? didnt quite get it
[17:34] <lordcyfer> rc.local
[17:34] <lordcyfer> is the last script execute before the login
[17:34] <thinkn> instead of init.d ?
[17:35] <thinkn> oh
[17:35] <shark> Is possible i change my desktop interface, i mean the task bar, ? change all the icon of ubuntu or replace it to another icons like backtrack icon ?
[17:35] <thinkn> i see
[17:35] <lordcyfer> rc.local is the last script start by init
[17:35] <thinkn> i see
[17:35] <eipi10> #join #linux-kernel
[17:35] <thinkn> thnks again
[17:35] <lordcyfer> init.d is a folder containing the services
[17:35] <lordcyfer> then you have the rcX.d
[17:35] <lordcyfer> with X as a runlevel
[17:36] <lordcyfer> You don't need all of that
[17:36] <llutz> !runlevel | lordcyfer
[17:36] <thinkn> lordcyfer, i know, but was thikning you maybe meant i should move it there or something.. didnt understand it at first, but i doo now
[17:36] <llutz> !upstart | lordcyfer
[17:36] <shark> ubottu
[17:36] <shark> AHAHAH, not original name
[17:36] <shark> You should change your life,
[17:36] <shark> AFSHDUSDUHADFUHUHSSUHUHDFUHDFSUHD
[17:36] <shark> it's joke
[17:36] <FloodBot1> shark: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:37] <shark> zica da galayxa
[17:37] <lordcyfer> lol
[17:37] <thinkn> lordcyfer, ok, so rcX running after rc.local ?
[17:37] <lordcyfer> yes llutz  i know
[17:38] <lordcyfer> no
[17:38] <lordcyfer> rc.local is the LAST one in any case
[17:38] <thinkn> okok
[17:38] <thinkn> got a little confusedf
[17:39] <lordcyfer> add your command to /etc/rc.local
[17:40] <thinkn> that i got ;)
[17:40] <shark> VAI TOMAR NO SEU CU ><
[17:40] <shark> You got my egg's inside your mouth
[17:40] <mdh> ???????
[17:41] <thinkn> but what will the command for typing in passwd and changing dns bee? (changing dns i understand) but for typing in pswd?
[17:41] <Capprentice> Anyone tried using Cadence on Ubuntu 12.04 as Default Pulseaudio to Jack switcher ?
[17:41] <thinkn> pass for the openvpn
[17:41] <thinkn> i will try it out and get back to you:)
[17:41] <thinkn> thanks!
[17:45] <capella> somehow i've hosed the gnome-search-tool behaviours ... when right-clicking search results and selecting |open in containing folder| it just tries to actually open the result ... hmmm ... how would I reset this...(?)
[17:48] <zAo^> Can anyone help with vncviewer to a Mac OS machine? All I get is a grey screen (where the login should be)
[17:48] <Capprentice> Why using VNC ? Why not use teamviewer ?
[17:49] <zAo^> Capprentice: dont know :) I used vnc way back
[17:49] <Capprentice> oh. Ok
[17:49] <zAo^> Capprentice: what is it called in the repos?
[17:50] <Capprentice> Just teamviewer
[17:50] <holstein> zAo^: its not.. teamviewer is a commercial product
[17:50] <zAo^> ah, there you go.
[17:50] <holstein> zAo^: i do use it to and from osx, and it works well
[17:50] <zAo^> vnc should work though
[17:50] <delinquentme> SO I'd like to be able to run bundle install
[17:50] <zAo^> holstein: teamviewer you mean?
[17:50] <holstein> zAo^: should.. but is it server side? can you connect locally on the mac?
[17:51] <delinquentme> so I think I'm trying to add the bundler path to my $PATH var ... in my ~/.bashrc .. ja?
[17:51] <holstein> zAo^: yes... teamviewer works to and from osx.. i use it to and from osx
[17:51] <zAo^> holstein: yes: vnc betwean macs and Windows works
[17:51] <VGusev2007> I think VNC is a rather slow...
[17:52] <holstein> zAo^: so, its client side with ubuntu? have you tried remmina?
[17:52] <VGusev2007> But I use it for Mac, Linux, Windows
[17:52] <zAo^> te
[17:52] <holstein> !info remmina
[17:52] <jY> is there anyway in the interfaces file to set a interface to not load on bootup
[17:52] <jY> but i can still do ifup on
[17:52] <nacitar> I just changed my /etc/network/interfaces to put a static ip on eth0, but stopping/restarting networking doesn't use it.  Furthermore, if I ifconfig eth0 down, restarting networking doesn't bring it back up (and ifup eth0 says eth0 isnt configured)
[17:53] <holstein> jY: you can blacklist the module
[17:53] <jY> holstein: what if it's like eth0:1 ?
[17:53] <holstein> nacitar: i would just double check the static ip config
[17:53] <VGusev2007> You can remove auto eht* from /etc/network/interfaces
[17:53] <holstein> jY: you can blacklist the module for the device you dont want to use
[17:53] <holstein> !blacklist
[17:53] <zAo^> holstein: trying now, thnx
[17:53] <VGusev2007> it is so hard
[17:54] <VGusev2007> just remove auto eth* from interfaces
[17:55] <nacitar> holstein: it's jsut like http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-static-ip/ says to do it
[17:55] <zAo^> holstein: it connects, shows the login screen, but cant type the password
[17:56] <holstein> nacitar: sure, but doublecheck your entries.. they will be specific to your network
[17:56] <VGusev2007> jY: go to: /etc/network/interfaces and comment: auto eth0 or whatever you need
[17:56] <nacitar> holstein: even if they're wrong, the interface should be coming up though (just not functional), aye?
[17:56] <nacitar> holstein: ifconfig isn't even showing the interface when i restart networking
[17:56] <jY> VGusev2007: thanks.. works
[17:56] <holstein> zAo^: with remmina? what do you use in windows? maybe you can run that natively or in wine.. at least as a test
[17:57] <holstein> nacitar: i would start over.. use auto, and see that the device is working...
[17:57] <zAo^> holstein: lol. Sorry, no wine on this machine
[17:57] <nacitar> holstein: with just auto eth0, as before, restarting networking still doesn't bring it up
[17:58] <nacitar> holstein: ifup eth0 says it "isn't configured" so if i could just figure out why it thinks that it would be swell.
[17:58] <nacitar> i feel that these are related problems.
[17:59] <maslen> Hi, I'm using ubuntu 12.10, x86-64, and when using nautilus, X is completely destroying my CPU (97%, for minutes, for opening a single directory). How can I fix this?
[17:59] <JakeDust> Hello, I need help with setting up the resolution on 12.10.
[17:59] <Capprentice> maslen:Do a reinstall
[17:59] <JakeDust> (with the nvidia-current drivers)
[17:59] <JakeDust> It doesn't recognize the native resolution of neither of my monitors
[17:59] <holstein> nacitar: i would return to default config, and test the network device
[18:01] <VGusev2007> JakeDust: i use the vanilla Nvidia Driver from Nvidia.com, after install this one from console it setup my resolution correctly.
[18:01] <JakeDust> VGusev2007: Ok, I'll try it
[18:02] <VGusev2007> JakeDust: the repo of ubuntu doesn't has correct and latest Nvidia drivers.
[18:06] <modgod> hi guys, i tried to "restart jobname" and now im experiencing a 502 bad gateway error
[18:06] <modgod> and the app is down
[18:06] <modgod> im taking over an that was set up to run on nginx
[18:07] <modgod> does any  know how I can ge tthis app back running
[18:08] <h00k> modgod: I'm not terribly familiar with nginx, but #ubuntu-server may be able to help
[18:09] <h00k> modgod: and maybe you can check !alis to see if there's an nginx room
[18:09] <h00k> !alis | modgod
[18:13] <flintser> modgod: if there is an bad config, the server wont start up. what did you change?
[18:13] <flintser> a*
[18:14] <kalib> hello guys. Is there a way to hide ubuntu's dock? the lateral menu?
[18:14] <kalib> the side panel.
[18:15] <Capprentice> You can set it to auto hide.
[18:15] <rndbit> has anyone ever heard of or even tried putting boot partition on usb stick (full disk encryption is in place)? I googled to no avail.. idk if i dont know how to search or noone really bothered doing this
[18:15] <flintser> kalib: go to appearance where you can change the settings of autovide, then set it to top left corner and sensitivity to lowest.
[18:15] <flintser> then it wont come unless super is pressed (it is handy sometimes)
[18:16] <Capprentice> Putting boot partition on a USB drive ?
[18:16] <kalib> flintser, it will hide the mnus.. but still with the "blank" space.
[18:16] <kalib> is it right?
[18:16] <Capprentice> Use Tails OS if you want..
[18:16] <Capprentice> anonymity
[18:17] <flintser> kalib, it is like it never was there. unless you press super (win/cmd key)
[18:17] <Capprentice> Best fps games on Ubuntu 12 ? (One Im played is "Nexuiz"
[18:18] <amarcolino> Capprentice, I can't guarantee you but in theory you should be able to do it considering it is possible to boot *nix from a usb
[18:18] <flintser> i use it that way and use docky as substitute.
[18:18] <kalib> ok
[18:18] <flintser> Capprentice: OpenArena, Team Fortress 2
[18:18] <Capprentice> Well, there is a windows tool that claims to do somehing like that - RUFUS
[18:18] <flintser> openarena is quake 3 with dfferent maps and models
[18:19] <Capprentice> openarena is like Nexuiz.
[18:19] <Capprentice> Not much enjoyable.
[18:19] <disty> hi
[18:19] <disty> what about .... http://pastebin.com/NrkmQgeE
[18:20] <flintser> Capprentice: how dare you mock quake ;) no.. but team fortress is fun, you can also get cs1.6
[18:21] <flintser> tf and cs through steam
[18:21] <Capprentice> CS1.6 is unusuable to me. I dont have highspeed Internet. I want something single player and standaslone.
[18:22] <flintser> tf 2 is with bots. you van also install bot mod to cs.
[18:22] <flintser> can* and openarena is with bots too
[18:24] <Capprentice> What is "Steam" ?
[18:24] <Capprentice> What does it provide ? I have seen it on USC. What it does ?
[18:24] <Capprentice> Ok. I was'nt aware of that.
[18:24] <Capprentice> Yes. Open Arena is good. But I played it on Ubuntu 11.10.
[18:24] <FloodBot1> Capprentice: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:24] <Capprentice> What does this means ?
[18:24] <Capprentice> Where I have used punctuation ?
[18:24] <Pici> Capprentice: stop pressing enter so often
[18:25] <eikke> is there a way to mark dpkg-reconfigure of a package to be 'successful' (even though it thinks it isn't)?
[18:25] <Capprentice> So, how do i post msgs then ? strange ! Im new to IRC. Dont know how toproperly use it. Where Do i read more about Xchat IRC ?
[18:26] <flintser> tf 2 is free to play so its free. so is steam. lookup steam on google. im on phone on very bad connection through ssh
[18:27] <flintser> steam is like marketplace for games. it released to ubuntu just a while ago. ä
[18:27] <unborn> Capprentice, you may write longer msg then press enter after every few words.. its like getting msgs every seconds on gtalk.. some of my friends does it too and it is very annoying
[18:28] <Capprentice> oh. Ok I have got it. Thanks unborn. This is the last time :)
[18:28] <flintser> sorry unborn. it is a pain to use a very slow sssh shell through slower connection than gprs...
[18:29] <unborn> Capprentice, just imagine your friend will text you msg on your phone 5 times in second because he just type two tree words and then press send.. would you not be upset? women does this so much :D
[18:30] <Capprentice> flintser: how you are using SSH on a Mobile ? Stupid question maybe. I never knew that ssh can be used from a Mobie. What kind of Mobile you re using
[18:30] <gezeppi> hi
[18:30] <gezeppi> how can i download python?
[18:30] <Pici> gezeppi: It should already be installed.
[18:31] <Capprentice> Search on synaptic. You need to check the version you want there.
[18:31] <flintser> but capprentice: im on a train and use ssh client called serverauditor on ios. my server is running at my home. lookup flinz.zapto.org for my website. it is the same computer i am running sah server on
[18:31] <flintser> ssh*
[18:34] <Pwnguin1> Why doesn't the Print Screen button work with Lubuntu?
[18:34] <CrazyGangster> Is possible to use gdb to recovery application passwords?
[18:35] <Capprentice> Okay. flintser I have got it. Its an awesome way to route internet traffic via shh
[18:35] <CrazyGangster> *recover
[18:35] <bijoo> Hi, is http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-x-swat-x-updates-/ubuntu really slow for everyone or just me? I was getting 1MB+/s minutes ago, but now it's at ~15kB/s.
[18:35] <Capprentice> Printsceen works. if you have changed the bindings to gnome screenshot tool then it will not work.
[18:35] <Capprentice> Do you have shutter ?]
[18:35] <bijoo> Sorry, I'll ask in launchpad room.
[18:35] <flintser> very painful to use this because of the slow connection though. everything appears few seconds late or not at all. typos are non avoidable
[18:36] <Capprentice> Thats a pain. Bijoo - install ksnapshot if everything fails to work.
[18:37] <bijoo> Capprentice: ok, thanks.
[18:38] <bijoo> Capprentice: looks like it was a hiccup since it's back now (phew, had me going there).
[18:38] <flintser> capprentice: i can offer tou a free irssi server (not guaranteed 24/7 uptime) if you want.
[18:38] <flintser> you
[18:38] <flintser> msg if interested
[18:39] <capoderra> I'm connected to the TV via HDMI, but how do I get the sound to output through the TV speakers and now the laptop speakers?
[18:39] <Capprentice> Well. Im not aware how these things works. So I cant take your offer rite now.
[18:40] <flintser> capoderra: if using ubuntu go to sound applet at top right and change the output from there
[18:40] <capoderra> I'm connected to the TV via HDMI, but how do I get the sound to output through the TV speakers and *not* the laptop speakers? sorry about the typo
[18:40] <capoderra> flintser, sound settings?
[18:40] <Capprentice> Why do you want to use Laptop speakers ?
[18:41] <capoderra> Capprentice, I don't want to use the laptop speakers.
[18:41] <flintser> capoderra: yes. i dont remember exact path but it is a dropdown menu under output tab
[18:41] <capoderra> I want to be able to put a movie on and watch on the big screen
[18:43] <Capprentice> Cant help you there. But my wild guess will be there is some problem with the HDMI port. Recheck everything.
[18:43] <capoderra> flintser, I've got the volume way up on the TV, but i don't hear anything
[18:43] <flintser> it is set to hdmi at the sound settings?
[18:43] <capoderra> flintser, yes, it is.
[18:44] <naegling> test left test right
[18:44] <naegling> soothing lady voice
[18:44] <capoderra> I have speakers and digital out on the output tab. speakers works on the laptop, but switching to digital i hear no sound anywhere.
[18:44] <flintser> i mean the output. if you use desktop pc it is not not guaranteed that your grapcihs car dsupport ausio
[18:44] <Capprentice> To use Digital Out you need a sound card.
[18:45] <flintser> audio. digital out is hdmi
[18:45] <Capprentice> HDMI it is.
[18:45] <flintser> lol i meant diital is not hdmi
[18:45] <capoderra> well, it works in windows, why doesn't it work in ubuntu?
[18:45] <flintser> i hate this >.< slow connection... no can do when must irc moar
[18:46] <Capprentice> Well. Im feeling stupid :;
[18:46] <sbluen> I accidentally invalidated my email address thinking that the link was supposed to confirm my email address. Can someone help me?
[18:46] <Capprentice> Do you have Jackd ?
[18:46] <BluesKaj> capoderra, hdmi is digital to your tv , both audio and video , so the test signals should be heard thru the tv
[18:47] <holstein> capoderra: could be the hardware supports windows, but not linux, not the digial out anyway.. i would just do analog connection
[18:47] <flintser> capoderra: what grapchis card?
[18:47] <capoderra> flintser, nvidia geforce 310m
[18:47] <makara> hi. I just want to see the total size of a folder - without doing any recursion (du) and not the file system (df)
[18:48] <holstein> capoderra: you are using the proprietary driver?
[18:48] <capoderra> no
[18:48] <flintser> proper drivers? capoderra
[18:48] <BluesKaj> capoderra, then you should have hdmi audio support , make sure you have the recommended driver in jockey
[18:48] <holstein> capoderra: i would try that driver.. i would try pavucontrol
[18:48] <sbluen> I'm basically having trouble logging in right now.
[18:49] <holstein> capoderra: or, just get an analog cable and plug it in
[18:49] <sbluen> to UbuntuOne
[18:49] <capoderra> BluesKaj, what is jockey?
[18:49] <capoderra> holstein, what is pavucontrol
[18:49] <holstein> !ati | capoderra you can refer to this on how to install the proprietary driver
[18:49] <holstein> !info pavucontrol
[18:49] <BluesKaj> capoderra, alt+f2 type jockey
[18:49] <Capprentice> Pulse audio Volume Control.
[18:50] <Capprentice> Install from Ubuntu software Center, Install Alsa Mixer too. There you will find additional soud mixing options.
[18:50] <BluesKaj> ok , taking a break , too many cooks here
[18:50] <flintser> id just use the 3.5mm audio jack if youre in a hurry, capoderra. software sources has proprietary drivers tab where you van install them.
[18:50] <flintser> drivers
[18:51] <SonikkuAmerica> !drivers
[18:51] <SonikkuAmerica> Seriously, no !command for drivers?
[18:52] <holstein> !ati | SonikkuAmerica is that what you are looking for?
[18:52] <capoderra> I'm not interested in 3.5, I want to get the audio to work via HDMI
[18:52] <SonikkuAmerica> holstein: Actually, not this time. We're dealing with audio driver issues.
[18:53] <flintser> now i ammsad that i didnt do thia guide in english... http://flinz.zapto.org/2013/02/nvidia-uusimmat-ajurit-ubuntu-12-10/
[18:53] <flintser> it is about nvidia drivers from nvidia page straight.
[18:54] <SonikkuAmerica> flintser: I'm looking at via Google Translate
[18:55] <SonikkuAmerica> flintser: Turn off the desktop and go back to the folder where the driver is located, and run it a second time. <<< What do you mean, kill lightdm?
[18:56] <Aeros> Saionara
[18:57] <capoderra> Are you guys still trying to help me? I'm confused.
[18:57] <SonikkuAmerica> flintser: That part could be improved slightly: you have to run  sudo stop lightdm , then  cd  to the correct folder, and run the script.
[18:58] <SonikkuAmerica> capoderra: And your problem was...?
[18:58] <SonikkuAmerica> (I wasn't here)
[18:58] <Capprentice> Capoderra, perhaps you might want to post a question on AskUbuntu.com
[18:58] <capoderra> Capprentice, I already have.
[18:58] <Capprentice> oh. Sorry.
[18:59] <capoderra> Capprentice, no problem, but I haven't gotten any bites and it's been ... more than a week.
[18:59] <selena2013> hi
[18:59] <SonikkuAmerica> flintser: Disregard all that, I didn't read what came before it.
[18:59] <flintser> translation problems :) google is not not yet perfect. sometimes wheni tell not to it says the opposite. m
[18:59] <SonikkuAmerica> selena2013: Welcome back
[18:59] <BluesKaj> capoderra, I took a break since there were so many suggestions to solve your problem , i thought I'd wait til the dust settled or you got a solution
[18:59] <SonikkuAmerica> flintser: lol
[19:00] <capoderra> SonikkuAmerica, My problem is that I can't get the audio to output through my TV speakers through HDMI
[19:00] <SonikkuAmerica> capoderra: Oh... that. What drivers do you have?
[19:00] <capoderra> When I test my laptop speakers, I can hear the lady say "front right, front left"
[19:01] <capoderra> but nothing happens when I test the digital output
[19:01] <capoderra> SonikkuAmerica, I haven't installed drivers
[19:01] <flintser> capoderra: install drivers. install pavucontrol. that was the best we could come up with. after that i said that i should have eone my guide in english
[19:01] <capoderra> I just installed pavucontrol, it's not making a difference
[19:02] <selena2013> try fix in alsamixer in  konsole
[19:02] <SonikkuAmerica> capoderra: Of course not. You also need the prop drivers for whatever gfx card you have.
[19:02] <flintser> digital out is not hdmi still :/ you dont have the hdmi output listed so there is probaply a driver issue
[19:02] <SonikkuAmerica> flintser: <capoderra> SonikkuAmerica, I haven't installed driver
[19:02] <SonikkuAmerica> *drivers
[19:02] <Capprentice> There is a tool. PulseAudio manager. Look at it. This provides internal details of PulseAudio Server. It might help you.
[19:02] <Capprentice> paman is the command to run PulseAudio Manager.
[19:03] <BluesKaj> Capprentice, have you set pavucontrol to the hdmi output ?
[19:03] <Capprentice> I dont have HDMI.
[19:03] <Angel0912> hello i have question regarding ubuntu amd i amble to use my SSD as primary home and use my HDD as secondary storage with a set up partition?
[19:03] <flintser> capprentice. it wont. i bet my money for drivers. HDMI doesnt show up because of that
[19:03] <SonikkuAmerica> Angel0912: What? I didn't catch that...
[19:03] <BluesKaj> sorry  Capprentice , wrong nick
[19:04] <capoderra> BluesKaj, how do I do that?
[19:04] <flintser> ubuntu has handled my audio by dfault after drivers are installed, since very rar away
[19:04] <flintser> far*
[19:04] <Angel0912> SonikkuAmerica: right i have 2 drives i want to use my SSD as primary home but i want to know if i can set my HDD as secondary storage as i compile android roms and only have 120Gb ssd
[19:05] <BluesKaj> capoderra, , open pavucontrol and choose the options in the audio output dropdown
[19:05] <crass> has anyone ever tried to run the iso from an ntfs formatted usb/disk using the grub loopback file?
[19:05] <SonikkuAmerica> Angel0912: I don't see a reason why not.
[19:05] <capoderra> there is only one choice: digital output (s/pdif)
[19:05] <SonikkuAmerica> Angel0912: Do you need help setting that up?
[19:06] <flintser> nvidia has good support for ubuntu. go to software sources and proprietary drivers tab! install nvidia drivers and them ypu see the hdm!
[19:06] <crass> more specifically it lookslike there's a bug in the initrd, where the mount.ntfs3g links to libntfs-3g.so.831 but libntfs-3g.so.835 is in the initrd
[19:06] <Angel0912> SonikkuAmerica: i will do i will install my dual boot linux first then i will come back ok =]
[19:06] <crass> can anyone confirm this?
[19:06] <flintser> it cannot work without drivers, the end of it.
[19:06] <Atlantic777> Hi! I've got a prolem on one machine, X suddenly freezes from time to time. It's standard 12.04 installation, with open source radeon driver (it's radon 1950 gt)
[19:06] <SonikkuAmerica> Angel0912: OK, see you in a bit
[19:06] <SonikkuAmerica> (no pun intended)
[19:06] <capoderra> flintser, what do you mean by software sources
[19:07] <Angel0912> SonikkuAmerica: ok =]
[19:07] <BluesKaj> capoderra, then you rpresent graphics driver doesn't support hdmi audio , unless you install the right driver
[19:07] <Atlantic777> Mouse pointer is alive, but can't do anything but to restart X session (restarting lightdm actually helps). Any ideas how to debug?
[19:07] <capoderra> BluesKaj, how do i find the right driver?
[19:07] <selena2013> software sources , additional drivers
[19:07] <flintser> capoderra: searc from dash (press win key)
[19:07] <rasha666> i need program for Lyrics on Ubuntu 12.04 ? suggestion?
[19:07] <Dennis8162> Hey
[19:08] <Dennis8162> Ubuntu is great :D
[19:08] <Capprentice> If you want to look intro your installed hardware, the easiest tool to do so is "SysInfo"
[19:08] <capoderra> oh right, i forgot to say that choosing additional drivers comes up with nothing
[19:08] <Dennis8162> I installed it about a hour ago and am amzed by it <3
[19:08] <Capprentice> You have to install them, I think you have not installed any yet.
[19:08] <selena2013> Denis which version you amazed ?
[19:09] <Capprentice> Ubuntu 12.10 is crappy if you are pointing that.
[19:09] <flintser> capoderra, then youd need my guide i pasted. sad it is only in finnish. i might translate it tonight :/
[19:09] <BluesKaj> capoderra, ok . alt+f2 , type additional drivers into the textbox , a dialog with some listed nvidia drivers should launch
[19:09] <rasha666> i need program for Lyrics on Ubuntu 12.04 ? suggestion?
[19:09] <Capprentice> Muse
[19:09] <capoderra> BluesKaj, what i'm trying to say is that it doesn't list any drivers
[19:09] <gmachine_24> I need to add two processes to start on boot - sc_serv and sc_trans;  where do I put references to these to beg them to start when the computer boots/reboots. Thanks.
[19:10] <capoderra> is there anything i can do through the terminal to get a driver?
[19:10] <gmachine_24> I mean to "get them to start when the computer boots/reboots" ...... ugh. It's Friday
[19:10] <Dennis8162> I got the latest version
[19:10] <Dennis8162> its just so nice
[19:10] <Dennis8162> :3
[19:10] <sloucher> rasha666 - I use Banshee. You have to install a lyrics plugin. I have trouble with it occasionally.
[19:10] <BluesKaj> capoderra, ok open a terminal/console , type this , sudo apt-get install nvidia-current , then reboot
[19:11] <matriks404> what kind of fucking joke is GNOME Setting Manager thing appearing after closing it
[19:11] <escott> gmachine_24, either rc.local or make your own init script
[19:11] <IdleOne> !language | matriks404
[19:12] <capoderra> BluesKaj, ok, i'll try this out and come back when I'm back up and report how it goes. Thanks.
[19:13] <BluesKaj> capoderra, ok
[19:14] <spartanfx701> Hallo !
[19:15] <capoderra> flintser, can you send me the link to the thing in finnish?
[19:16] <spartanfx701> I want to change the network name shown in network-manager with one i decide for every network interface. Can someone help me?
[19:16] <flintser> capoderra, dont. it is full of translation errors i checked :)
[19:16] <flintser> http://flinz.zapto.org/2013/02/nvidia-uusimmat-ajurit-ubuntu-12-10/
[19:17] <capoderra> flintser, ok what is it about?
[19:17] <flintser> installing nvidia drivers (newest and best supportig) nvidia current has a bit older drivers
[19:17] <Capprentice> check this - http://www.noobslab.com/2012/10/install-latest-nvidia-drivers-in-ubuntu.html
[19:18] <bakarat> i have rhythmbox playing on my main pc but I want to listen to the music on my laptop in another room, can I stream it somehow?
[19:18] <bakarat> i don't need controls, just the ability to stream the music (though controls would be a nice feature)
[19:18] <gmachine_24> escott: thanks
[19:19] <zAo^> how can I adjust the scroll speed??
[19:19] <bakarat> or alternatively is there a way to tell rhythbox to take all the music in the current playlist and dump it on a usb stick or something?
[19:19] <kynlem> where's keyboard shortcut to change layout stored in 12.04?
[19:19] <kynlem> i quickly looked through dconf tree, couldn't find it
[19:19] <selena2013> settings , keyboard
[19:20] <lifebird64> bakarat: I haven't found a solution for this either. I had some success piping raw PCM audio, reencoding it and sending the output to a FIFO; but when switching songs, somethings I'd get a bunch of a annoying fuzz.
[19:20] <lifebird64> *sometimes
[19:20] <kynlem> selena2013: i need to change it from command line
[19:20] <Capprentice> Install Internet DJ console. Create a account on ShoutCast.com. Stream muzic worldwide.
[19:20] <bakarat> lifebird64, ah k
[19:20] <spartanfx701>  I have four network interfaces and i want to show in network-manager Lan for eth0, Wifi150-1 instead of wlan0...and so on for the others network interfaces. Can someone help me?
[19:21] <Capprentice> best IRC channels ?
[19:21] <lifebird64> Capprentice,bakarat: even on a LAN, shoutcast/icecast still has different latencies on more than one computer, which makes for annoying echos when both computers are close to each other. the FIFO is less prone to those differences, I find.
[19:22] <holstein> mumble has pretty decent latency
[19:22] <lifebird64> holstein: mumble allows piping in audio from standard in?
[19:22] <JoeyJoeJo> How can I tell what package provides libssl.so.1.0?
[19:23] <Flannel> JoeyJoeJo: dpkg -S /path/to/file
[19:23] <holstein> lifebird64: i either route with pavucontrol, JACK, or an analog cable.. i dont spend a lot of time on what is "allowed".. i just use ins and outs as i need
[19:23] <spartanfx701>  I have four network interfaces and i want to show in network-manager Lan for eth0, Wifi150-1 instead of wlan0...and so on for the others network interfaces. Can someone help me?
[19:23] <Pici> JoeyJoeJo: or if you don't have it installed, check packages.ubuntu.com  (File libssl.so.1.0 found in libssl1.0.0, libssl1.0.0-dbg)
[19:23] <Capprentice> sudo find / -name libssl.so.1.0.*^C
[19:23] <bazhang> spartanfx701, be patient
[19:23] <lifebird64> holstein: sounds promising. I'll dick around with that later.
[19:23] <Capprentice> check your system first.
[19:23] <JoeyJoeJo> thanks
[19:24] <Pici> Capprentice: Uh, that will not tell you what package the file came from. and you don't need sudo for find.
[19:24] <Capprentice> ok.
[19:24] <zAo^> no one on the scroll speed?
[19:25] <escott> !find libssl.so.1.0
[19:25] <escott> JoeyJoeJo, ^
[19:25] <JoeyJoeJo> I'm on 10.04 LTS and it looks like the highest libssl I can get is 0.9.8
[19:27] <Capprentice> download the .deb from here - http://pkgs.org/search/?keyword=libssl1.0.0
[19:28] <Pici> Capprentice: no
[19:28] <Capprentice> Why not ?>
[19:28] <JoeyJoeJo> It didn't work anyway. I got an error that said "multiarch-support is not installed."
[19:29] <Pici> Capprentice: Because none of those packages are for the release that JoeyJoeJo is running.
[19:29] <penk> hi folks, i'm unable to log in as root or any user on one of my hosts.  It's an AWS host, so i can see the logs - they're filled with "sshd[20823]: Did not receive identification string from 127.0.0.1"
[19:29] <penk> any suggestions?
[19:29] <penk> this is a mirror copy of other hosts in the environment, it's just this one that isn't let me log in.
[19:30] <Capprentice> Ok Im telling you today I have installed Torcs 1.3.3 from pkgs.org which is made for ubuntu 12.10. and it is working perfectly.
[19:30] <Capprentice> Im on Ubuntu 12.04
[19:30] <Squarism> key assignmments in ubuntu-unity is just whack... its a damn lame excuse of a windowmanager when developers obviously have no controll of the code
[19:30] <DJones> !wfm | Capprentice
[19:31] <JoeyJoeJo> Another quick question - when I run uname it says i686. Is that a 32 or 64 bit kernel?
[19:31] <Capprentice> Ok oK. Still learning man. Dont get me wrong. Just trying to help.
[19:31] <judahitewarrior7> I need help ASAP, I have Ubuntu 12.10 and I am trying to reinstall Windows XP. After reformatting the hard drive to NTFS and trying to reinstall Windows XP, when I put the WIndows XP disc into the hard drive, it does not recognize my hard drive. Why is this?
[19:31] <dienes> hi
[19:31] <bekks> JoeyJoeJo: 32bit
[19:32] <packetfrog> judahitewrrior7 I told you to format fat32
[19:32] <dienes> can u help me for gtk-2.0 print printer?
[19:32] <packetfrog> judahitewarrior7 rather
[19:32] <ClientAlive> is there any way to use tree to display the diff between two directories?
[19:32] <bekks> packetfrog: thats nonsense, XP cannot be installed on FAT32.
[19:33] <judahitewarrior7> packetfrog: I did that, Windows XP setup still does not recognize my hard drive.
[19:33] <packetfrog> bekks Help him then.
[19:33] <bekks> packetfrog: This is not a XP support channel.
[19:34] <packetfrog> He is trying to get off ubuntu
[19:34] <ClientAlive> packetfrog:  #windows
[19:34] <packetfrog> Your lame
[19:34] <bekks> packetfrog: Which doesnt turn a Windows installation into an Ubuntu issue.
[19:34] <packetfrog> Yes it does.
[19:34] <bekks> packetfrog: For me, it doesnt.
[19:34] <packetfrog> Someone tried to use Ubuntu   YOUR community.
[19:34] <bazhang> packetfrog, lets move on
[19:35] <packetfrog> Fuck you.
[19:37] <Capprentice> Fun Ubuntu from a Live cd. Use gaparted to create all the necessary partitions from Ubuntu. Then trying installing. It might work.
[19:48] <kgalahassa> hello, I have configured my backup on linux with backup software , but when it's higt time for make backup, it fails, and said : not a directory. can you help?
[19:48] <away> what backup software?
[19:49] <j0d3> away tar :-)
[19:49] <j0d3> rsync
[19:49] <rzyz> Hello, is it possible to do not have XDM (display manager)? i allways have only one user and only under xfce, but XDM still run in background.
[19:50] <penk> log in on the console, then startx?
[19:50] <mr_chris> rzyz: Yes. You need to disable the service.
[19:50] <Capprentice> Anyone have Idea what extra packages are added in Zorin OS ultimate  than Ubuntu 12.10 ?
[19:51] <bazhang> Capprentice, ask in the Zorin support forums
[19:51] <DJones> Capprentice: Wouldn't like to say about Zorin, you probably need to ask in their irc channel
[19:51] <mr_chris> rzyz: Try a tool like rcconf. You may need to install it first. Then disable xdm. When you reboot you should start at a console.
[19:51] <rzyz> mr_chris, does xubuntu desktop will still be launch?
[19:51] <Capprentice> What is their IRC channel ?
[19:51] <rzyz> mr_chris, i still want want my xfce desktop.
[19:52] <bazhang> !alis| Capprentice have a search
[19:52] <mr_chris> rzyz: If you disable the display manager you will have to launch X manually. To do that, log in through the console and run "startrx". To get xfce to launch you may need to add "exec startxfce4" to your .xinitrc file.
[19:53] <mr_chris> rzyz: But if you don't want to have to go through that effort, you should keep xdm. It's a login manager. Its job is to make it easy to launch your desktop.
[19:54] <kgalahassa> hello, I have configured my backup on linux with backup software , but when it's higt time for make backup, it fails, and said : not a directory. can you help?
[19:55] <mr_chris> kgalahassa: Which backup software?
[19:55] <bazhang> kgalahassa, what backup software
[19:55] <rzyz> mr chris, i thought that XDM was only the screen where i login, screen that i doesn't need.
[19:56] <mr_chris> rzyz: xdm is a display manager. It manages logging in and choosing which desktop session you run. It sounds like what you want is autologin.
[19:56] <kgalahassa> mr_chris, i use déjà Dup
[19:56] <mr_chris> rzyz: Are you running stock Xubuntu? It uses lightdm now. Did you remove lightdm in favor of xdm?
[19:57] <kgalahassa> bazhang , i use déjà Dup
[19:57] <rzyz> mr_chris, yes , i want autologin .
[19:57] <mr_chris> kgalahassa: What is the error?
[19:57] <kgalahassa> : not a directory
[19:58] <mr_chris> rzyz: I can help you with this but first I need to make sure we are on the same page. Please run "ps -ef | grep -v grep | grep xdm" in a terminal and tell me what the output is.
[19:58] <mr_chris> Please run "ps -ef | grep -v grep | grep lightdm" in a terminal and tell me what the output is.
[19:59] <rzyz> mr_chris,  but my ligthDM still is in memory (sorry, it is lightDM)..
[19:59] <kgalahassa> is it me? mr_chris, for running ''ps -ef?
[19:59] <mr_chris> rzyz: OK. Now that we are talking about the same login manager I can tell you how to do this. One moment, please.
[19:59] <mr_chris> kgalahassa: No. For rzyz. Sorry.
[19:59] <rzyz> mr_chris, mistake because i've installed slim and xdm.
[19:59] <kgalahassa> bazhang , i use déjà Dup
[20:00] <mr_chris> rzyz: You only need one, slim or xdm. Which are you running?
[20:00] <mr_chris> kgalahassa: What is the error you are getting?
[20:01] <mr_chris> rzyz: Telling you how to autologin depends on the display manager you are using.
[20:01] <rzyz> mr_chris, i use : lightDM : http://pastebin.com/PXpyRqTQ
[20:01] <kgalahassa> : not a directory, mr_chris
[20:01] <mr_chris> rzyz: And slim and xdm are not running then, correct?
[20:01] <mr_chris> kgalahassa: Which directory are you trying to backup from and to?
[20:02] <mr_chris> kgalahassa: Please be as specific as possible. Can't help you otherwise.
[20:02] <rzyz> mr_chris, yes they doesn't run
[20:02] <mr_chris> rzyz: This should help you out. https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/LightDM#Enabling_Autologin
[20:03] <mr_chris> rzyz: Actually, here is Ubuntu's https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LightDM#Autologin
[20:03] <kgalahassa> I have a partition, which i use for backup, a data partition, i 've just created a directory  and configure my backup into it
[20:04] <rzyz> mr_chris, ok , i try , back in minutes.. ;)
[20:04] <kgalahassa> my_chris:I have a partition, which i use for backup, a data partition, i 've just created a directory  and configure my backup into it
[20:04] <kgalahassa> my_chris:I have a partition, which i use for backup, a data partition, i 've just created a directory  and configure my backup into it
[20:05] <mr_chris> kgalahassa: I'm sorry. You're still not being specific enough. I'm look for what your source and destination directory are. Something like source: /home/kgalahassa destination: /media/mybackup/
[20:05] <mr_chris> Look at where you thing you are backing up from and to and make sure those are actually accessible.
[20:05] <mr_chris> *where you think
[20:06] <kgalahassa> mr_chris: /media/kgalahassa/Data (/dev/sda3)
[20:07] <kgalahassa> mr_chris: /media/kgalahassa/Data (/dev/sda3)
[20:07] <mr_chris> kgalahassa: That is your destination?
[20:08] <kgalahassa> mr_chris: /media/kgalahassa/Data (/dev/sda3), yes in this , it create himself the zip file home_backups
[20:08] <mr_chris> mr_chris: And you can confirm that it is indeed mounted and accessible?
[20:09] <kgalahassa> mr_chris, yes
[20:10] <mr_chris> kgalahassa: Are you getting something like "Backup failed:  Specified archive directory /home/<NAME>/.cache/duplicity/82efb7512ec2268e50d9f45280229cd0"
[20:10] <mr_chris> err
[20:10] <mr_chris> kgalahassa: like  "Backup failed:  Specified archive directory /home/<NAME>/.cache/duplicity/82efb7512ec2268e50d9f45280229cd0' does not exist, or is not a directory"
[20:12] <mr_chris> kgalahassa: It would help if you can share the exact error you are getting. "Not a directory" is not enough to go on.
[20:16] <GottfriedHofmann> is there a way to probe wether your headphones are plugged in?
[20:17] <Angel0912> SonikkuAmerica: hello im back apolagies for the delay i cooked dinner
[20:23] <whhhhhh> anyone know how to use filezilla to download an entire directory
[20:24] <whhhhhh> i can't seems to download the whole folder using filezilla in ubuntu
[20:26] <THE_JOKER_> hey everyone :)
[20:26] <THE_JOKER_> i want to install ubuntu via usb... and when i start it i get an error message that the file /casper /vmlinuz is missing... but it is there when i look  inside of these folder...
[20:28] <odra> Bom dia!
[20:28] <odra> Quer dizer tarde!
[20:28] <odra> Eh, not #ubuntu-br
[20:28] <odra> Cya!
[20:29] <jamesgcd> THE_JOKER_: Does your system use UEFI by any chance? I've no idea why it wouldn't be working unless you were using the 32bit iso on a UEFI system or just the image is corrupt
[20:29] <THE_JOKER_> image is not corrupt... i checked it twice
[20:29] <THE_JOKER_> i use a 64 bit
[20:29] <THE_JOKER_> and UEFI
[20:29] <THE_JOKER_> i have to say i want to dual boot
[20:30] <THE_JOKER_> windwos 8 is on the other side
[20:30] <Angel0912> ubuntu and windows 8 dual boot will work with 32 bit or 64 bit linux i can confirm this
[20:30] <Angel0912> and using UEFI bioes
[20:30] <zabomber> do you guys like snowcones?
[20:31] <bazhang> !ot | zabomber
[20:31] <THE_JOKER_> where can i check it if it is UEFI?
[20:31] <THE_JOKER_> i'm a noob :(
[20:32] <Dennis8162> Hi how can i install java, i downloaded the linux packag
[20:32] <Angel0912> what mobo are you using
[20:32] <Angel0912> THE_JOKER_: what mobo are you using may i ask
[20:32] <whhhhhh> who using filezilla in ubunt u?
[20:32] <bekks> whhhhhh: Why?
[20:33] <whhhhhh> can filezilla download the entire directory ?
[20:33] <bekks> whhhhhh: Sure.
[20:33] <Dennis8162> is the OpenJDK Java 7 Runtime in the software centre the one i want?
[20:33] <Dennis8162> i downloaded the package from java.com
[20:34] <bekks> Dennis8162: java.com == Oracle != OpenJava
[20:34] <matriks404> i want to update ubuntu 12.04 to 12.10, it is there any issues with 12.10?
[20:34] <whhhhhh> mine will stop at each folder
[20:35] <Dennis8162> sorry to be a n00b, but is this the wright one? http://openjdk.java.net/
[20:35] <whhhhhh> so damn boring
[20:35] <bekks> !java | Dennis8162
[20:35] <davis776> Hello, why is Unity Dash Home lags when opening?
[20:36] <elisa87> how can I know if the binary created by nvcc (Nvidia CUDA C Compiler) for a simple vecadd.cu (Cuda C)  is static or dynamic?
[20:36] <bekks> elisa87: Just run "ldd yourbinary"
[20:37] <mgore> hello SR Team, I would like this case to be executed: https://gus.salesforce.com/500B0000000dWcL
[20:37] <Dennis8162> thanks
[20:37] <elisa87> bekks http://paste.ubuntu.com/5577368/ so is that a dynamic binary now? Can you explain a little more?
[20:38] <mgore> Can someone please help me
[20:38] <mgore> thx
[20:38] <Dennis8162> another question, ive installed wine, now will .exe programs just run when i click them?
[20:38] <mgore> oops
[20:38] <bekks> elisa87: Yes it is. You dont see a "this is a static binary" message, but instead, you can see the linked libraries.
[20:38] <elisa87> bekks thanks a lot
[20:39] <matriks404> Dennis you can right click and click run in wine, or you can change default opening operation
[20:39] <bekks> Dennis8162: No.
[20:39] <bekks> Dennis8162: Just installing wine does not mean you can execute every .exe file
[20:39] <Dennis8162> isok
[20:40] <Dennis8162> oh ok*
[20:40] <elisa87> bekks can you guess what does this exactly want from me For dynamic binaries, specify an appropriate plugin with an argument to hpcrun.
[20:40] <Dennis8162> wish there was spotify for ubuntu :(
[20:41] <davis776> Dennis8162, it is
[20:41] <Dennis8162> there is?
[20:41] <Dennis8162> :D
[20:43] <Dennis8162> How can you make linux better?
[20:43] <Dennis8162> I mean
[20:43] <Dennis8162> Its so good already
[20:43] <flintser> search for linux spotify
[20:43] <Dennis8162> ok
[20:43] <flintser> you get specific guide from spotify itself
[20:43] <Dennis8162> https://www.spotify.com/uk/download/previews/ this?
[20:43] <bekks> elisa87: I'm sorry, never seen a message like that
[20:44] <alex________> Hello, I have a problem with Ubuntu 12, I want to get away with sh shell a welcome message with a specific user to edit the file but. "Profile" in / etc / and enter the session, I only Appears on the terminal to $, why? sorry for my bad English.
[20:45] <Dennis8162> umm is there a show desktop command?
[20:45] <nicf> Hi, I just bought a new computer which had Windows 8 preinstalled and I've been trying to get it set up to dual boot with Ubuntu 12.10. I seem to have screwed up the bootloader a lot and I'm wondering if anyone is willing to help talk me through this.
[20:45] <bekks> alex________: Is german your native language? If so - try #ubuntu-de
[20:45] <packetfrog> people djones Sorry for cursing. Whatever my issues that is not proper in a place such as this.
[20:45] <flintser> this is good guide, but not the one i said. does the same thing though
[20:45] <flintser> http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/10/install-spotify-linux-client-in-ubuntu-12-10-quantal-quetzal/
[20:45] <alex________> bekks i'm spanish
[20:46] <kwyjibo> anyone running ubuntu on n7? is it stable?
[20:46] <bazhang> !touch | kwyjibo
[20:46] <kwyjibo> cold. i just wanted to chat with a human being
[20:47] <thiebaude> !bot
[20:47] <thiebaude> :)
[20:47] <bazhang> kwyjibo, thats the discussion channel for it
[20:47] <matriks404> i am updating Ubuntu to 12.10 :D
[20:47] <kwyjibo> okie
[20:47] <ronalds_m> steam linux channel is there one?
[20:47] <matriks404> yes
[20:47] <bazhang> !steam > ronalds_m
[20:48] <packetfrog> alex________,  What are you trying to do? Display a banner msg on login?
[20:48] <kwyjibo> i'll see you guys in #ubuntu-touch
[20:48] <voxadam> I'm having problems mounting a Windows share on my Ubuntu Server 12.10 box. Every time I try using "sudo mount -t smbfs //Windows/share /mnt/windows" I get an unknown filesystem type error.
[20:48] <packetfrog> alex________,  Msg me in spanish and I can translate.
[20:48] <alex________> ok
[20:49] <synju> Hey guys
[20:50] <alex________> quiero mostrar un mensaje de bienvenida al iniciar terminal con la shell sh, al editar el archivo /etc/skel/.profile y añadir un echo "Hola $USER bienvenido" luego inicio sessión con el usuario y al abrir terminal no aparece
[20:50] <packetfrog> voxadam  http://askubuntu.com/questions/84494/whats-the-easiest-way-to-mount-windows-share-as-a-local-folder-in-home-director     maybe that can help
[20:50] <f4cl3y> voxadam: `dmesg | tail` psl.
[20:50] <f4cl3y> pls*
[20:51] <f4cl3y> voxadam: or try mount -t cifs //Windows/share /mnt/windows -o --verbose -o user=username
[20:52] <voxadam> packetfrog: thanks.
[20:52] <packetfrog> alex________,  I want to display a welcome message to start terminal with sh shell, to edit the file / etc / skel / .profile and add echo "Hello $ USER welcome" then start session with the user and does not appear to open terminal
[20:52] <voxadam> I just figured out the cifs thin.g
[20:52] <f4cl3y> voxadam: or try mount -t cifs //Windows/share /mnt/windows  --verbose -o user=username
[20:52] <synju> Guys what command can I use to find other commands... eg it would take a search like... command "zip"
[20:54] <alex________> gracias packetfrog
[20:54] <packetfrog> alex________, Im looking for what you want   brb
[20:55] <skillo> alguem usando nmap ai ?
[20:55] <Dennis8162> hi ive nstaled java but still get a error
[20:55] <flintser> /etc/skel is the folder where from useradd gets its info
[20:56] <davis776> somehow I opened command line in unity, what was the shortcut?
[20:56] <packetfrog> alex________,   Maybe this http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-change-message-of-the-day-motd-in-ubuntu-server.html
[20:56] <flintser> ctrl+alt+t
[20:56] <packetfrog> ctrl alt t  ? davis776
[20:56] <judahitewarrior7> Can anyone tell me of a program that will run Windows XP programs on Ubuntu better than Wine?
[20:57] <alex________> I'll see thanks again
[20:57] <flintser> or ctrl+alt+f<number> changes tty. tty7 is the tty reserved for x
[20:57] <bekks> judahitewarrior7: There is no such program. You would have to install a Windows virtual machine.
[20:57] <holstein> judahitewarrior7: no.. but any software can be written to run in linux natively.
[20:57] <bekks> holstein: Which is not true :)
[20:57] <judahitewarrior7> bekks: How do I do that?
[20:57] <davis776> packetfrog, no, it wasnt terminal, just unity like search and before input was command line
[20:57] <billkd> judahitewarrior7: you can use a program like kvm or VIrtualbox to run a vm
[20:58] <bekks> judahitewarrior7: You would have to install a hypervisor like virtualbox, and install a windows guest OS after.
[20:58] <holstein> bekks: yeah? anyone can write whatever they like.. and can write it for linux.. i cant think of anything that cant be written for linux
[20:58] <naegling> you could try crossover
[20:58] <naegling> it's like a polished version of wine
[20:58] <alex________> el problema es que tiene que ser un mensaje de bienvenida al abrir el terminal, es obligatorio usar el fichero oculto .profile de /etc/skel.
[20:58] <holstein> bekks: i didnt say "ported".. or "compiled".. i mean, if the company or developers want, they can support linux natively
[20:59] <judahitewarrior7> bekks: So how do I set up VirtualBox to run Windows XP?
[20:59] <bekks> holstein: s/want/get payed for/
[20:59] <billkd> bekks : what Ubuntu version are you on? 12.10 or 13.04?
[20:59] <holstein> bekks: sure. that doesnt make it not true though.. just potentially unlikely do to commercial interest
[21:00] <packetfrog> alex________,     Asked: the problem is that it has to be a welcome message to open the terminal, it is compulsory to wear a hidden file. profile / etc / skel.
[21:00] <bekks> billkd: 12.04 on production system, 12.10 on daily use, 13.04 on testing boxes.
[21:00] <billkd> bekks: What version do you want to install Virtualbox on?
[21:00] <Dennis8162> Hi ive installed java but still get the following error: http://www1.picturepush.com/photo/a/12314014/1024/Images/Screenshot-from-2013-03-01-20%3A58%3A12.png
[21:00] <bekks> billkd: Whatever I need for that particular use case.
[21:01] <packetfrog> alex________,  http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/welcome-message-on-terminal-582616/
[21:01] <billkd> Dennis8162: Could you run these commands?
[21:01] <billkd> sudo apt-get install wgetpaste
[21:01] <billkd> java your_application > java.log
[21:01] <billkd> wgetpaste java.log
[21:01] <billkd> then post that link?
[21:01] <FloodBot1> billkd: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:01] <Dennis8162> oh ok ill do them commands
[21:02] <Dennis8162> ive got the java btw
[21:02] <Dennis8162> I downladed openjdk 6 & 7
[21:02] <billkd> Dennis8162 so you fixed your java?
[21:02] <Dennis8162> no
[21:02] <TheLordOfTime> is there a way to set up a secure (closed, needs-auth for use) HTTP proxy on an Ubuntu server?
[21:02] <Dennis8162> im not sure what to do
[21:03] <TheLordOfTime> Dennis8162, what're you trying to do?
[21:03] <TheLordOfTime> (I'm late to the convo)
[21:03] <Dennis8162> i only started using ubuntu about 2 hours ago
[21:03] <Dennis8162> I want to install java
[21:03] <packetfrog> alex________,  Or add it .bashrc
[21:03] <billkd> wgetpaste is a program to paste error messages into web links for posting here on the channel, nothing else really.
[21:03] <TheLordOfTime> Dennis8162, did you take a look at the java page on the wiki(s)?
[21:03] <TheLordOfTime> !java > Dennis8162
[21:04] <Dennis8162> I did the java thing
[21:04] <TheLordOfTime> Dennis8162, also, what browser is that in the screenshot you posted (i pulled up logs)
[21:05] <Dennis8162> the browser is chromium
[21:05] <billkd> Dennis8162: try uninstalling 6 or 7 and see what happens(version conflict)?
[21:05] <TheLordOfTime> Dennis8162, did you install the java plugin as well?  It may be a separate package
[21:05] <matriks404> !42
[21:05] <Dennis8162> i did both like the wiki page said
[21:06] <billkd> Dennis8162: uninstall openjdk6 with sudo apt-get remove openjdk6 or whatever
[21:06] <Dennis8162> umm is there program like teamviewer for linux?
[21:06] <flintser> .... i am on windows computer and tried to change desktop.. just ended u with upside down screen
[21:06] <Dennis8162> open jdk 6 is a policy tool?
[21:06] <TheLordOfTime> Dennis8162, there is teamviewer for linux, but we don't do remote support here.
[21:06] <billkd> So you need 6? Then uninstall 7.
[21:06] <TheLordOfTime> Dennis8162, because of... security issues.
[21:06] <flintser> wrong channel.. shouldve been in ot
[21:06] <Dennis8162> hang on
[21:07] <alex________> packetfrog reads this question, Haz una copia de seguridad de los archivos contenidos en el directorio /etc/skeel/ al directorio /etc/esqueleto. Edita el archivo /etc/esqueleto/.profile y añade al final del archivo la línea siguiente:  echo “Bienvenido $USER a la sesión Ubuntu”  Qué efecto tendrá esta acción?
[21:07] <flintser> Dennis8162:  teamviewer is for linux
[21:07] <bravis_> Ventrilo
[21:07] <Dennis8162> can someone teamviewer to me, im confused
[21:07] <TheLordOfTime> Dennis8162, as i said, its inadvisable to ask that here.
[21:07] <billkd> Dennis8162: stand by for pm
[21:07] <Dennis8162> ok
[21:08] <flintser> http://www.teamviewer.com/en/download/linux.aspx
[21:08] <packetfrog> alex________,  asked Make a backup of the files in the / etc / Skeel / to the / etc / skeleton. Edit the file / etc / skeleton / .profile and add to the end of the following line: echo "Welcome $ USER to the Ubuntu session" What effect will this action?
[21:08] <packetfrog> alex________,  Just use .bashrc ?
[21:08] <troulouliou_dev> hi i have 32 gb of ram and i do see some swap space being used ; especialy when using vmware ; can i turn off swap with such ram ?
[21:08] <packetfrog> or the motd
[21:09] <packetfrog> troulouliou_dev,  yes
[21:09] <flintser> troulouliou_dev: if you run lots of vm and ram goes low sometimes, you NEED swap otherwise i cannot think of any situation that 32 gb will fill up
[21:10] <packetfrog> troulouliou_dev,   http://askubuntu.com/questions/103915/how-do-i-configure-swappiness
[21:10] <troulouliou_dev> packetfrog, still strange i have lots of free ram and the system is swaping
[21:11] <alex________> solo puedo usar el .profile, es una pregunta de un curso de formacion profesional y tengo que hacerlo como dice.
[21:11] <troulouliou_dev> there is a special mmap param to use swap in prioryty or wha t?
[21:11] <packetfrog> troulouliou_dev,  reduce the swappiness
[21:11] <troulouliou_dev> ha ok :)
[21:11] <packetfrog> troulouliou_dev,  look at the link i gave you
[21:11] <troulouliou_dev> packetfrog, yes thanks
[21:11] <packetfrog> it explains it
[21:11] <davis776> why is unity dash so laggy with Intel GPU?
[21:12] <packetfrog> why does unity do anything it does?
[21:12] <flintser> troulouliou_dev: i say that dont worry abut it. it wont use swap for things that could be run in ram
[21:13] <packetfrog> flintser, that link i gave him is not just how to change it   it explains it a bit.
[21:13] <flintser> i mean after swappiness is correct, but dont remove swap. your system can crash if lots of vms fill up your ram
[21:14] <troulouliou_dev> packetfrog, perfect answer yeah didn't know about that
[21:14] <semitones> hello
[21:14] <packetfrog> troulouliou_dev,  I just had to find and use it the other day ;)
[21:14] <semitones> I want to buy a laptop. is there a place I can get recommendations for which ones are most ubuntu friendly?
[21:14] <packetfrog> semitones google
[21:15] <semitones> thanks, thanks a lot
[21:15] <selena2013> system 76
[21:15] <OerHeks> !hcl
[21:16] <semitones> Thanks OerHeks, thanks selena2013 :)
[21:16] <packetfrog> semitones http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/desktop/
[21:16] <packetfrog> it lists makes/models
[21:17] <packetfrog> I found it on google :(
[21:17] <packetfrog> Its actually a nice list ! :)
[21:18] <ntzrmtthihu777> ok lets try this again
[21:18] <ntzrmtthihu777> technically I am using pinguy os 12.04 but I don't know if they have an irc help channel.  I compiled the driver for dlink dwa-160 b2 and got it running, but now stuff hangs terribly when I have it plugged in, docky will literally freeze in place, apps won't respond, even reboot hangs.
[21:18] <Dougie187> I'm having a weird issue, I have a usb sound card with a microphone plugged into it, and I'm repeatedly getting popping sounds in the input stream. I was curious if anyone had any suggestions for fixing this.
[21:18] <magiik> i'm not sure when this stopped working, but I can't seem to connect to all wireless APs - in syslog I keep on getting DHCPDISCOVER messages with no response
[21:18] <magiik> it's weird, i can set up an AP from my phone and it will connect, but two wifi routers i have here at work I can't get them to connect
[21:19] <magiik> my last attempt was turning off security and I can't even conenct to the router with unsecured wifi
[21:19] <troulouliou_dev> magiik, no physical switch on the laptop ?
[21:19] <magiik> i do have a physical switch
[21:19] <magiik> it associates with the AP, but it doesn't respond to DHCPDISCOVER messages
[21:20] <magiik> i gotta run to lunch
[21:20] <magiik> i'll try again when i get back
[21:20] <troulouliou_dev> linux ruteur ?
[21:21] <samuel> Hey everyone, How can i have some applications use my USB headset, and some use the laptop speakers?
[21:21] <ArneLurk> Is it rude to ask for Ubuntu help here? It's a very simple question, I hope.
[21:22] <packetfrog> ArneLurk This is a ubuntu support channel   go ahead
[21:22] <packetfrog> Good luck :/
[21:22] <IboS> go ahead ArneLurk
[21:22] <IboS> samuel: huh try pavucontrol ?
[21:23] <patrycjusz> how to register login on IRC
[21:23] <ArneLurk> I used Unetbootin to make a bootable USB Ubuntu Live 12.04. My moms laptop Windows 7 HDD which won't boot can be seen from Ubuntu. I also made 1.6gb persistent storage and I'm hoping to put the files there.
[21:23] <DJones> !register | patrycjusz
[21:23] <ntzrmtthihu777> msg nickserve register <password> <email>
[21:24] <ArneLurk> Do I put the files directly into the file system partition or does putting them in the regular home dir mirror them in the persistent storage file system?
[21:24] <packetfrog> DJones  you just made me so happy.
[21:24] <ntzrmtthihu777> #nickserv
[21:24] <ntzrmtthihu777> *nickserv lol
[21:24] <ntzrmtthihu777> ArneLurk: what?
[21:25] <packetfrog> How can I learn the bot commands?
[21:25] <ArneLurk> I'm booted into Live Ubuntu with some persistent storage and now I'm confused where to put the files.
[21:26] <ArneLurk> I don't know anything about Ubuntu, I just wanted to save my mom's vacation photos.
[21:26] <ArneLurk> From the dying internal HardDerive
[21:26] <DJones> !bot | packetfrog This should help you finding the different commands for the bot,
[21:27] <packetfrog> Thanks
[21:27] <Nite_shades> any help with chrubuntu which the ubuntu version for the chromebooks
[21:27] <DJones> packetfrog: There is also a channel #ubuntu-bots which is useful when you want to test the different factoids etc
[21:28] <Nite_shades> would like to collaborate with anyone interested in the same OS
[21:31] <Angel0912> hello guys im trying to install ubuntu on old laptop my i keep gettign this error any idea?http://s1.directupload.net/file/d/3181/vgicg8nd_jpg.htm
[21:31] <patrycjusz> how to enter #php chat
[21:31] <samuel> IboS: Thanks ! just what i wanted !
[21:31] <DJones> packetfrog: It should just be "/join #php"
[21:31] <klj613> hello - i've got a asus xonor dg - sound works (but cant seem to get virtual/doby working.. or amp) - and i can't seem to get the microphone working... i've googled and loads others got same problem. is there anything else i can try?
[21:32] <patrycjusz> i need to be invited it says
[21:32] <klj613> or should i just get a new soundcard
[21:32] <packetfrog> DJones ?
[21:32] <packetfrog> oh i see
[21:32] <DJones> packetfrog: Sorry, I mis-tabbed
[21:32] <packetfrog> patrycjusz, /join #php
[21:33] <DJones> patrycjusz: You may need to register your nick to be able to join #php
[21:33] <Angel0912> hello guys im trying to install ubuntu on old laptop my i keep gettign this error any idea?http://s1.directupload.net/file/d/3181/vgicg8nd_jpg.htm??
[21:33] <HoNgOuRu> hi, I want to launch xterm from the command line but can't get rid of the titlebar or scrollbars... tried xterm -h or man xterm but didn't find a solution
[21:33] <patrycjusz> DJones: ALREADY REGISTERED
[21:33] <packetfrog> DJones * Cannot join #php (Channel is invite only).
[21:33] <IboS> packetfrog: ew see on #freenode
[21:33] <packetfrog> patrycjusz,  It is invite only
[21:34] <klj613> ##php
[21:34] <DJones> patrycjusz: Try joining ##php
[21:34] <DJones> patrycjusz: #php forwards to ##php
[21:34] <patrycjusz> DJones: not working
[21:35] <patrycjusz> i just want to tlk how to learn PHP using MVC
[21:35] <patrycjusz> where to start
[21:36] <klj613> use a framework? e.g. #symfony
[21:36] <anew> i'm trying to unmount a shared folder, but when i type sudo unmount it says command not found ?
[21:36] <klj613> symfony.com
[21:36] <klj613> patrycjusz, ^
[21:36] <flintser> anew its umount
[21:36] <DJones> patrycjusz: As far as I can see, your nick isn't registered, probably best if you join #freenode the people there will be able to help you get the nick registered
[21:36] <packetfrog> patrycjusz,  Identify your nick and you can goto ##php
[21:36] <Dennis8162> TheLordOfTime: umm ok
[21:36] <anew> ah
[21:36] <anew> damn
[21:36] <anew> ok thx
[21:37] <klj613> anyone here got a asus xonar dg? and got microphone working?
[21:37] <patrycjusz> klj613: but i want to learn PHP
[21:37] <patrycjusz> klj613: better is learn from scratch not using ready solutions
[21:37] <patrycjusz> klj613: i want to understand how to build apps using MVC
[21:38] <packetfrog> patrycjusz,  www.google.com   great resource
[21:38] <klj613> MVC isn't specific to PHP. but ##php is best place to get help for php. and google of course :)
[21:38] <packetfrog> patrycjusz,  More directly http://www.w3schools.com/php/default.asp
[21:38] <patrycjusz> ok thanks all
[21:39] <AlexItC> can anyone help me?
[21:39] <anew> how can i mount always on bootup ?
[21:39] <mlechner> hi, i'm facing problems on simple backup (sbackup) since upgrade to 12.10. - the estimated  space for a incrementel backup is multi times less then the resulting backup (up to filling the hdd up to 0 space) - anybpdy hearded of this bug?
[21:39] <zeroday617> AlexItC: you should just ask your question and if anyone can help they will :)
[21:40] <Angel0912> does anyone know how to fix udev 205 error
[21:40] <mlechner> anew, put the driv ein /etc/fstab
[21:40] <IboS> Angel0912: check out fstab editiing
[21:40] <packetfrog> anew  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[21:40] <Angel0912> IboS: ?? what do you mean sorry
[21:41] <harrisr> what is libre channel
[21:41] <AlexItC> ok. i am having a problem mounting my external dvd drive. i put my diablo 3 disk in and i can find it in media file but i cant seem to mount it. and when i use playonlinux to install diablo 3 through cd installation it say the path isnt present.
[21:41] <kgalahassa> mr_chris,  I can not access to the details into erros: it just shows : not a directory
[21:42] <harrisr> !libre
[21:42] <harrisr> !libre-office
[21:42] <packetfrog> harrisr what are you looking for? libreoffice?
[21:42] <harrisr> !libreoffice
[21:42] <DJones> !alis | harrisr
[21:42] <HoNgOuRu> hi, I want to launch xterm from the command line but can't get rid of the titlebar or scrollbars... tried xterm -h or man xterm but didn't find a solution
[21:42] <harrisr> packetfrog, yes
[21:42] <packetfrog>  #libreoffice
[21:43] <packetfrog> harrisr /join #libreoffice
[21:43] <harrisr> thanks
[21:43] <vazox> alguien que hable español ?
[21:43] <harrisr> oh and wheres the backslash key on keyboard
[21:43] <edu> vazox: try #ubuntu-es
[21:44] <vazox> ok thanks edu
[21:44] <zeroday617> HoNgOuRu: have you tried modifying the config file for xterm?
[21:44] <HoNgOuRu> I only want to launch one xterm at startup
[21:45] <HoNgOuRu> for monitoring purposes
[21:45] <kgalahassa> mr_chris,  I can not access to the details into erros: it just shows : not a directory
[21:45] <zeroday617> xterm is conifgured in .Xdefaults so you should be able to specify things like `xterm*scrollBar:: false`
[21:46] <kgalahassa> hello, I have configured my backup on linux with backup software , but when it's higt time for make backup, it fails, and said : not a directory. can you help?
[21:46] <kgalahassa> hello, I have configured my backup on linux with backup software , but when it's higt time for make backup, it fails, and said : not a directory. can you help?
[21:46] <zeroday617> if you don't have a ~/.Xdefaults file you may need to make one.
[21:46] <AlexItC> so im taking a guess no one can help me figure out my dvd drive problem
[21:47] <harrisr> when i open a docx file with pictures in libre the formatting is messed up
[21:50] <Q17Q> so whats new tools are out there
[21:51] <Mnemonic> Hi. Is there some way to check when a ext4 partition was last mounted?
[21:52] <Q17Q> looking for some new tools
[21:53] <Guest24835> hi ppl
[21:54] <grime> hhhmmm
[21:55] <grime> so whats the situation
[21:56] <anew> i'm tryin to edit my fstab folder to auto mount but keep getting error on bootup
[21:56] <anew> not sure what i'm doing wrong here is the line i'm writing
[21:56] <anew> shared home/will/Documents/shared vboxsf defaults 0 0
[21:56] <anew> what is wrong with that ?
[21:57] <grime> anew, ooouuff im having that save problem...nothing is mounting correctly.............what have your tried
[21:58] <anew> well i can mount it normally
[21:58] <anew> but when i try to automount
[21:58] <anew> is when it doesnt work
[21:58] <anew> i am trying to edit the fstab folder
[21:58] <anew> not sure what i'm doing wrong
[21:58] <grime> anew, so your trying to mount a vb? or a hd?
[21:59] <anew> vb
[22:00] <anew> so annoying
[22:00] <Dougie187> I'm having a weird issue, I have a usb sound card with a microphone plugged into it, and I'm repeatedly getting popping sounds in the input stream. I was curious if anyone had any suggestions for fixing this.
[22:00] <grime> anew, i bet, what command did you run?
[22:00] <anew> shared home/will/Documents/shared vboxsf defaults 0 0
[22:00] <anew> in fstab
[22:01] <harrisr> Always have your stuff when you need it with @Dropbox. Sign up for free! http://db.tt/GEUdip68
[22:01] <harrisr> please sign up and install dropbox application i need space for work
[22:02] <anew> wait i'm an idiot i think i can automout from within settings
[22:02] <anew> let me try that
[22:02] <grime> anew, so you want it to load at start up so you can pick what to load
[22:02] <anew> wtf are u talking abour harrisr
[22:02] <anew> stop spamming
[22:02] <harrisr> it is a cloud service
[22:02] <anew> yeah i think we all know what dropbox is ...
[22:02] <harrisr> open the link i posted sign up and download the application
[22:02] <grime> Dougie187, what have you tried? do you have alsa-utils installed?
[22:02] <harrisr> we both get space
[22:03] <anew> no
[22:03] <anew> stop spamming
[22:03] <anew> grime i think i got it
[22:03] <Dougie187> grime: I haven't tried anything. I'm not sure what to try to fix it. but I can install alsa-utils.
[22:03] <Dougie187> Also, I'm on 12.04
[22:03] <Dougie187> Alsa-utils is installed.
[22:03] <grime> anew, haha what did you do?
[22:04] <anew> there is an automount session in vbox
[22:04] <anew> i just had to check it
[22:04] <anew> lol
[22:04] <grime> Dougie187, run alsamixer in terminal and make sure pcm levels are not to hight
[22:05] <grime> anew, haha glad it was fixed im not too familiar with vb my laptop cant run it
[22:05] <Dougie187> grime: it's 19
[22:05] <baumy> i cant get alsa/audio working in ubuntu server 12.04.2 64bit, kernel 3.5.0-25, with intel panther point [8086:1e20] (rev 04)
[22:06] <harrisr> Always have your stuff when you need it with @Dropbox. Sign up for free! http://db.tt/GEUdip68 just sign up and install dropbox so we both get space
[22:06] <grime> Dougie187, while in alsamixer press f-6 and see what soundcard your system is using
[22:06] <Dougie187> My output is HDA Intel PCH, and my input is the USB PnP one
[22:06] <anew> really? grime it's not that resource heavy
[22:06] <grime> baumy, what have your tried?
[22:07] <anew> if u have a semi/new laptop
[22:07] <anew> omg can someone ban harrisr
[22:07] <anew> so annoying
[22:07] <grime> anew, yeah but it just doesnt support it for some reason
[22:07] <harrisr> fine is there a channel where i can ask
[22:08] <grime> Dougie187, it might be the usb coming in causing latency
[22:08] <anew> yeah go to some dating channel
[22:08] <anew> annoy them
[22:08] <anew> lol
[22:08] <Dougie187> grime: is there something I can do to fix it? :P
[22:08] <baumy> grime: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/1002978  the things suggested in that thread mainly, the alsa-hda-dkms_0.1_all.deb package
[22:09] <grime> Dougie187, try finding direct drivers for the usb soundcard
[22:09] <Q17Q> so whats new tools are out there
[22:09] <grime> Dougie187, what the name and model
[22:10] <Dougie187> grime:http://www.amazon.com/Syba-SD-CM-UAUD-Adapter-C-Media-Chipset/dp/B001MSS6CS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1362172782&sr=8-1&keywords=usb+sound+card
[22:10] <grime> baumy, are you running alsa only or alsa and pulse
[22:11] <baumy> only alsa; the libpulse0 package is on my system but not pulse itself
[22:11] <IdontKnowAnythin> need help with Software Center...cant intall anything
[22:12] <grime> Dougie187, woah it might be the adapter....it could be cheaply built
[22:13] <Dougie187> ok
[22:13] <grime> IdontKnowAnythin, try using synaptic instead or the terminal
[22:13] <grime> Dougie187, what do you need the mic for?
[22:13] <Dougie187> skype and stuff
[22:13] <Dougie187> voice chatting
[22:13] <Dougie187> mumble, etc.
[22:13] <baumy> grime: only alsa; the libpulse0 package is on my system but not pulse itself (forgot to hilight you)
[22:13] <IdontKnowAnythin> the problem is that Dropbox seems to be hung up in Terminal and I cant get it to go away, ive tryed to purg but not working
[22:14] <grime> baumy, check alsamixer in terminal and make sure your running on your onboard and not something else
[22:15] <grime> Dougie187, have you considered a usb mic? it might work way better
[22:15] <baumy> grime: 'alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory"
[22:15] <cihhan> how can i read individual processes' cpu and memory utilization? i checked /proc/pid but i think im still missing something out there
[22:15] <Dougie187> grime: I've had a hard time finding one that I knew would work with ubuntu. I ordered this mic from tiger direct because it said it was USB on the page, and it came as 3.5mm. They gave me my money back and let me keep the mic.
[22:15] <grime> IdontKnowAnything, try dropping dow to tty1 and going fully cli
[22:16] <grime> baumy, do you have alsa-utils installed
[22:16] <IdontKnowAnythin> what is ttyl
[22:16] <grime> Dougie187, hmmm let me find a link to one i used its real nice hold on
[22:16] <Dougie187> ok, ty
[22:17] <baumy> grime: alsa-utils                           1.0.25-1ubuntu5
[22:18] <grime> IdontKnowAnythin, ctrl + alt+ f-2 or f-1 will drop you to cli environment log in and run it see if it works
[22:18] <grime> baumy, yeah do you have it installed?
[22:18] <baumy> grime: yes, that version of it specifically
[22:19] <grime> baumy, hhhmm try running sudo alsamixer
[22:20] <baumy> grime: that worked...wtf
[22:20] <vincentS> !superkaramba
[22:20] <magiik> alright i'm back - anyont have any issues with wifi - I can't seem to get an IP address - DHCPDISCOVER messages in syslog with no response
[22:20] <vincentS> anyone uses it ?
[22:20] <vincentS> !dcop
[22:20] <magiik> it seems to be able to connect to some APs, like when I set up tethering on my phone, but two routers I have here at work I can't connect to
[22:21] <magiik> one of them I even turned off security so it's unsecured, and no dice, DHCPDISCOVER requests go unanswered
[22:21] <grime> Dougie187, http://www.amazon.com/CAD-U1-Dynamic-Recording-Microphone/dp/B000ULQTE0/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1362176451&sr=1-2&keywords=usb+mic
[22:21] <magiik> ok wtf.... i just tried it now and it's working
[22:21] <grime> baumy, so what is your set up like? make sure master and pcm isnt muted
[22:22] <magiik> ok yeah there it goes, I try the other router and just a bunch of DHCPDISCOVER's from dhclient in syslog but no ip negotiated
[22:23] <baumy> grime: i turned everything up to 100 and made sure everything was unmuted, not hearing anything
[22:23] <cihhan> How can i read individual processes' cpu and memory utilization? I checked /proc/pid but i think im still missing something out there.
[22:24] <grime> baumy, what sound card is being loaded check with f-6
[22:24] <baumy> grime: the intel one
[22:24] <heraclitis> cihhan, have you tried "top" in terminal?
[22:24] <DanielL> Hi guys,
[22:24] <DanielL> I and my mate are developing a web designer software GTK+ [open source], we are wondering if someone has knowledge in donations for projects within Open Source.
[22:24] <grime> baumy, is there any others listed?
[22:25] <whjms> cihhan: htop is a pretty good application for what you need
[22:25] <baumy> grime: one for my nvidia graphics card, and some weird usb device i dont recognize with a hexidecimal name and no playback controls when i select it
[22:26] <magiik> so weird... this AP was working a week or two ago, and now it won't get an IP through DHCP
[22:26] <cihhan> well, im writing a small monitoring tool for myself to create some reports -- so i dont want to use top
[22:26] <magiik> I can connect fine on my android phone to the AP, but ubuntu won't get an ip
[22:26] <magiik> anyone got any ideas on what might be wrong?
[22:27] <grime> baumy, make sure you have nvidia proprietary drivers installed
[22:28] <whjms> cihhan: do you want to find the usage by core, or just the percentage of the total system that is being used (e.g. a process with 400% usage means it's using four cores)
[22:28] <baumy> grime: i have the latest nvidia graphics drivers, but i dont think thats relevant? i could be mistaken, but i think the nvidia audio drivers are for audio over hdmi, since my gpu has an hdmi output. my speakers are plugged into my motherboard, which is definitely the intel audio driver
[22:28] <calwig> whats a readable font for IRC?
[22:28] <whjms> calwig: fixed-misc-medium
[22:29] <cihhan> whjms: i would prefer overall system usage for the processes
[22:29] <ViralFrost> calwig - monospace
[22:29] <calwig> perfect thanks
[22:30] <calwig> I dont have "terminal" or "symbol" font
[22:30] <calwig> ViralFrost, monospace is good, whjms fixed-misc-medium is no go on my chat proggy, thanks though
[22:30] <cihhan> whjms: any ideas/
[22:30] <magiik> what does: wpa_supplicant: Association request to the driver failed
[22:31] <baumy> grime: i just noticed something, in the "chip" section at the top left of alsamixer, it says Intel PantherPoint HDMI, which i think is for my motherboard's hdmi out
[22:31] <magiik> and why is wpa_supplicant used/needed for WEP security?
[22:31] <baumy> grime: so it seems like my motherboard audio device isnt recognized at all?
[22:31] <whjms> cihhan: why don't you want to use top?
[22:31] <grime> baumy, check in your preferences under sound make sure nothing is muted
[22:32] <magiik> could it be my proprietary broadcom drivers?
[22:32] <sloucher> #linux
[22:32] <sloucher> lol, oops sorry
[22:32] <baumy> grime: nothing is muted
[22:33] <cihhan> whjms: actually i have written using it in the beginning, but i started having so many issues and now my advisor doesnt want me to use top. in fact he wanted me to read directly from /proc/pid but i wanted to ask here for further ideas
[22:34] <heraclitis> how does fsck work?
[22:34] <whjms> cihhan: so you're looking to find usage for a single process, right?
[22:34] <thebananafish> good evening all, so I setup my bind9 dns server, all is working well... except that some people are not getting name lookups if they arent using googles dns
[22:34] <cihhan> whjms: yes
[22:35] <grime> baumy, ok try running this in terminal as root adduser (your username) audio
[22:35] <cihhan> whjms: in fact the cpu and mem usage of all processes individually
[22:35] <baumy> grime: "adduser <user> audio"?
[22:36] <whjms> cihhan: sorry, you might have better luck over at #linux
[22:36] <cihhan> whjms: thanks a lot :)
[22:36] <baumy> grime: just did that, added me to audio group still no sound, gonna restart real quick
[22:36] <Q17Q> whats new tools are available for backtrack
[22:37] <whjms> Q17Q: #backtrack-linux
[22:37] <grime> baumy, run groups in terminal and tell me your output
[22:37] <baumy> grime: james adm cdrom sudo audio dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare
[22:38] <Refried__> hey... so i broke my apache2 installation in some fundamental way that I don't understand.  is there a way to restore it to the distribution initial settings?
[22:38] <Refried__> or at least, the apache-php interaction
[22:38] <Refried__> removing and reinstalling packages hasn't seem to have been the right solution for me ;-)
[22:38] <basiclaser> hey guys how do set up an extracted tar file?
[22:39] <whjms> basiclaser: does this file have source code, or is it a package?
[22:39] <grime> baumy, hmm ok try uninstalling alsa-utils and alsa-base then reinstalling
[22:39] <basiclaser> ive tried following a tutorial, nvigated to the file, extracted the bz2  but then ./configure doesnt work
[22:40] <lasers> basiclaser: What are you trying to do?
[22:40] <basiclaser> whjms: installing sublime text 2, it has a packages folder inside
[22:40] <SourceSlayer> Hey.
[22:41] <Q17Q> whjms : on backtrack now
[22:41] <Tex_Nick> Refried__:  if you don't get an answer here, you mightask in #httpd
[22:41] <K4k> I had installed the Gnome3 team PPA to try out Gnome3 and found that it breaks some things in Unity so I would like to figure out which packages were provided only by the PPA. What would be the easiest way to go about doing this?
[22:41] <Refried__> Tex_Nick: k thanks
[22:41] <Tex_Nick> Refried__:  np ;-)
[22:42] <grime> baumy, if that doesnt work you might need to edit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[22:42] <lasers> basiclaser: tar -xvjf "$FILE" -C /opt/ ; mv -v /opt/Sublime* /opt/sublime-text/ ; ln -sf /opt/sublime-text/sublime_text /usr/local/bin/subl
[22:42] <Refried__> Tex_Nick: in particular, the default config was working well for me for a while
[22:42] <basiclaser> whjms: might the fact that the file name has spaces in it be a problem?
[22:42] <Refried__> but in the course of trying to aggressively uninstall some packages that depended on it, i broke it
[22:42] <SourceSlayer> I'm using Ubuntu 12.10, I went into to the terminal and typed in "$PYTHONPATH", but it only outputed a blank line, when using python I could still import modules just fine, what's wrong with my python install.
[22:42] <Refried__> aggressively reinstall, i mean
[22:42] <SourceSlayer> ?*
[22:43] <whjms> basiclaser: what does running 'ls' in the extracted directory give you? do you see something like 'PackageSetup.py'?
[22:43] <baumy> grime: suddenly things work, much obliged
[22:43] <Q17Q> whjms: so what is the kools backtrack tool
[22:44] <grime> baumy, welcome happy to help
[22:44] <whjms> Q17Q: backtrack's channel should help you. if not, check their wiki and their forums.
[22:44] <basiclaser> whjms: yes there is a package setup py file
[22:45] <whjms> basiclaser: then run that, it should create a .deb file, if i remember correctly
[22:46] <basiclaser> whjms: ok thanks whats the command to run it?
[22:46] <whjms> basiclaser: "python PackageSetup.py"
[22:46] <ZenMasta> Is there a way to bulk rename a bunch of files? I have a folder with about 5k images and each one is named using a product number. But I want to remove all the dashes from the file names.
[22:46] <whjms> ZenMasta: are you looking for a GUI tool?
[22:47] <ZenMasta> whjms no shell ideally
[22:47] <K4k> ZenMasta: can you provide me an example of one of the file names?
[22:47] <ZenMasta> 978-1-4143-1306-1.jpg
[22:47] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[22:47] <ZenMasta> the dashes mostly follow that pattern
[22:48] <whjms> ZenMasta: and just remove the dashes?
[22:48] <basiclaser> whjms: that command runs without complaint but i see no products of it, anything else to do?
[22:48] <ZenMasta> just remove, I do not want to substitute
[22:48] <whjms> basiclaser: if you run 'ls', do you see any .deb files in the directory?
[22:48] <grime> ShapeShifter449, hello
[22:48] <ZenMasta> I have a gui tool but it crashes because of how many files there are
[22:48] <ShapeShifter499> my email provider has a quota, I'd like to download that onto my main ubuntu system then "forward" that to my other clients, how would I do this?
[22:49] <whjms> ZenMasta: maybe using a combination of a for loop, mv, and sed?
[22:49] <basiclaser> whjms: no :/
[22:49] <K4k> ZenMasta: the way that comes to mind would be a for loop which uses sed to create the new name for each file and moves them from the old location to the new location
[22:49] <whjms> basiclaser: is this the version downloaded from sublime text's site?
[22:49] <grime> ShapeShifter449, is it an email that was sent to you or that your sending
[22:49] <basiclaser> whjms: yes
[22:49] <ZenMasta> ok thanks
[22:50] <ShapeShifter499> grime, this is my own personal email
[22:50] <Tex_Nick> ZenMasta:  se if this points you in the general direction ... http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/150
[22:50] <grime> ShapeShifter449, are you using the web or an app on ubuntu
[22:50] <ZenMasta> ok
[22:51] <whjms> basiclaser: does ./sublime_text open up the editor?
[22:51] <K4k> ZenMasta: something like 'for file in $(ls); do file2=$(sed .... file); mv file file2; done
[22:52] <ShapeShifter499> grime, its a vary secure service but has a really small quota (under 100 megs) so I would need to download it save it then delete the original off their servers, this leaves new mail on my system but I'd like to get notifications for that mail (and read it too) on my other devices like my iPhone or Android tablet
[22:52] <K4k> but I don't know enough sed to complete that
[22:52] <ShapeShifter499> grime, I'm currently using the web, but I could also set up a client
[22:52] <whjms> K4k: sed 's_-__g', or something like that?
[22:52] <basiclaser> whjms: it says cannot execute binary file when i try that
[22:53] <K4k> whjms: yup, just don't know the exact syntax you'll want to replace all - in the name regardless of surrounding characters
[22:53] <ShapeShifter499> grime I know how to set up a client to receive this mail, but I want it to download to my home ubuntu system, if I do this I will not get notified for this mail on my mobile devices
[22:53] <whjms> basiclaser: try 'chmod +x sublime_text', then run it
[22:55] <grime> Shapeshifter499, there some apps on ubuntu, try PostFix sound like something your looking for
[22:56] <K4k> is there a way to list what packages are provided from a particular repo in sources.list.d?
[22:56] <grime> ShapeShifter499, and if you are installing PostFix you can install MySQL as well to foward
[22:57] <basiclaser> whjms: i did, it passed without complaint
[22:58] <whjms> basiclaser: which version did you download (32 or 64 bit)?
[22:58] <basiclaser> 64, i have 64bit machine
[22:58] <whjms> basiclaser: what happens when you do './sublime_text' ?
[22:59] <basiclaser> whjms: it says cannot execute binary file again
[22:59] <veme9082> ciao
[22:59] <veme9082> !list
[22:59] <whjms> basiclaser: sorry, you might have better luck using a ppa for ubuntu
[23:00] <basiclaser> whjms: ppa? thanks for your time!
[23:00] <grime> ShapeShifter499, heres a link that can help   http://www.pixelinx.com/2010/10/creating-a-mail-server-on-ubuntu-using-postfix-courier-ssltls-spamassassin-clamav-and-amavis/
[23:05] <grime> panorain, yo
[23:05] <panorain> hi grime
[23:05] <panorain> I need help burning a bootable .iso of ubuntu 12.04
[23:06] <grime> panorain, were you able to mount your hd
[23:06] <grime> panorain, so you decieded to upgrade?
[23:06] <panorain> grime I was not I received an anwser on launchpad telling me to update ubuntu
[23:06] <panorain> grime yes I am updating to 12.04
[23:07] <panorain> grime liveusbinstaller completes but the usb is still not booting
[23:07] <grime> panorain, what you want a bootable usb?
[23:07] <panorain> grime yes
[23:08] <grime> panorain, try start up disk creator
[23:08] <grime> panorain, its me MistahSpooky i just changed my name cuz someone else was ussing it
[23:08] <panorain> grime I am unfamiliar with disk creator
[23:08] <panorain> grime hi MistaSpooky
[23:09] <grime> panorain, ha so your still running 10.04 right
[23:09] <panorain> grime yes I am in it on my pc to the left right now
[23:10] <diverdude> i am trying to compile VTK on my ubuntu 12.10 machine and i get an error saying "X11_Xt_LIB could not be found". What is this? and how do i install it?
[23:10] <panorain> grime I have liveusb creator installed it fails to create a bootable image I tried 2 times now
[23:10] <grime> panorain, Open a program called Startup Disk Creator (It should be installed by default it not then open synaptic package manager search for it and install)
[23:10] <panorain> grime have you worked with dd writing .img file?
[23:11] <grime> grime, yeah dd is easy is it works,,,has never failed me
[23:11] <grime> panorain, yeah dd is easy is it works,,,has never failed me
[23:11] <whyrusleeping> Ive got an asus Taichi21 and the touchscreen is completely dark
[23:11] <diverdude> i am trying to compile VTK on my ubuntu 12.10 machine and i get an error saying "X11_Xt_LIB could not be found". What is this? and how do i install it?
[23:11] <selena2013> this is ubuntu
[23:12] <panorain> grime usb-creator-gtk is installed
[23:12] <Linco> hello. im very new to ubuntu. i installed 12.10 with no problem. but when it finishes i loads to a purplish wallpaper with no gui a few moments later i get an error saying compiz has closed unexpectedly.
[23:12] <grime> panorain, try formating your usb before you flash your image
[23:12] <whyrusleeping> anybody know what to do about the screen being super dark? its happened on another laptop too..
[23:12] <panorain> grime I just did with gparted then created a fat16 partition with fdisk
[23:13] <panorain> grime usb is empty ready to go
[23:13] <selena2013> fat16 ???
[23:13] <Angel0912> does linux detect OC in the bios?
[23:13] <selena2013> use unetbootin in usb
[23:13] <panorain> selena2013msdos excuse me
[23:13] <grime> panorain, fat16? use fat32
[23:14] <panorain> grime I am sorry  I created an msdos partition
[23:14] <selena2013> fat32
[23:14] <selena2013> why msdos ?
[23:14] <selena2013> i believe you trying to do a live usb ?
[23:14] <panorain> selena2013 I need to create a fat32
[23:14] <DeliriumTremens> is there any way to set global permissions to a ttySx device?
[23:14] <panorain> selena2013 yes
[23:15] <magiik> omg finally got my wifi problem fixed... i dont know what happened to break it? kernel update maybe? but my solution was downloading/patching/compiling the broadcom STA drivers from the broadcom site
[23:15] <magiik> man that was a pain in the ass
[23:15] <selena2013> alright use unetbootin , format to fat32 then install iso
[23:15] <DeliriumTremens> i dont care if it can perform i/o, i just want any user to be able to connect to it
[23:16] <grime> panorain, use dd
[23:16] <panorain> grime ok
[23:17] <Mrg0302>  if I boot Linux on a USB will it delete my current operating system
[23:17] <selena2013> no if boot live
[23:17] <panorain> grime what options in fdisk should I be selecting?
[23:17] <safecancel> how does one reset display settings for a user from the guest account?
[23:17] <grime> panorain, sudo dd if=/path/to/iso/ubuntu-example.iso of=/dev/sdX bs=4M;sync where sdX is what your usb is being recognized as
[23:17] <selena2013> live boot wont erase current os
[23:17] <K4k> Found my answer, ppa-purge was what I needed
[23:18] <Mrg0302> Thank you
[23:18] <grime> safecancel, alt+ctrl+del
[23:18] <panorain> grime should I repartition the usb drive with fdisk again and not be using fat16?
[23:18] <safecancel> grime: zzz ..
[23:18] <diverdude> i am trying to compile VTK on my ubuntu 12.10 machine and i get an error saying "X11_Xt_LIB could not be found". What is this? and how do i install it?
[23:19] <grime> panorain, no just make sure you put the path of the iso with the name exactly spelled and then the output to where your usb is then you should be fine
[23:19] <grime> safecancel, hahaha
[23:20] <panorain> grime i'll give it a try thanks
[23:20] <selena2013> if i were you i use unebootin is easier
[23:20] <dawn> join #space
[23:21] <Ben64> dawn: you need a / before join
[23:21] <PrincessDaybreak> Hrmm
[23:22] <grime> safecancel, so whats wrong exactly
[23:22] <grime> panorain, did it work?
[23:24] <grime> selena2013, it doesnt always work, its buggy at best.............dd has not failed me yet......unetbooting has
[23:25] <safecancel> grime: I have an external display connected via HDMI to a laptop. When I login using my user account, both displays (laptop and external) display nothing. I have tried rebooting with and without the external display connected. I have also tried brightness and external/internal toggles on the laptop. The guest account works fine though. So I am wondering if there is a way to reset the display settings in my
[23:25] <safecancel> user account, using the guest account?
[23:26] <grime> safecancel, if your guest account is fine then its a user problem
[23:27] <safecancel> grime: seems I can't sudo or even SU to my user account from the guest account
[23:28] <aLeSD> Is there a ubuntu mobile channel ?
[23:28] <safecancel> grime: surely there is a file(s) in the home folder for the user account which i could replace with a copy from (or delete) the guest account to achieve this ...
[23:28] <tgm4883> !touch | aLeSD
[23:28] <aLeSD> thnaks
[23:28] <grime> safecancel, try using the cli at login, ctrl + alt + f-2 then Try deleting ~/.config/monitors.xml
[23:29] <safecancel> grime: thank you :)
[23:31] <grime> safecancel, let me know if that worked if not theres more stuff you can try
[23:31] <enis_> hey wassap guys
[23:31] <grime> yo
[23:32] <kmc__> Hi all. I have deleted the user "nobody" from my 12.04 system, because it was behaving like a hacker and I didn't know what it was. It isn't nobody at all, it's important. Now I can't login. Can anyone tell me how to recreate it please?
[23:32] <enis_> delete c
[23:32] <enis_> shut down your computer
[23:32] <enis_> jump 3 times
[23:32] <enis_> after open it
[23:33] <linxeh> nobody:x:65534:65534:nobody:/nonexistent:/bin/sh
[23:33] <kmc__> linxeh: thankyou, what should its password be?
[23:34] <grime> safecancel, so hows the progress going
[23:34] <Ben64> kmc__: firstly, you shouldn't go around deleting stuff that you don't know what it does. secondly, what made you think it was a hacker?
[23:34] <linxeh> kmc__: none
[23:35] <kmc__> kmc__: it was the lesser of two evils. I didn't want to take time to research it because it was running 'find' and I didn't want to wait until it found what it was looking for, if it were a hacker.
[23:35] <Linco> I installed 12.10 with no problem. but when it finishes it loads to a purplish wallpaper with no gui. a few moments later i get an error saying compiz has closed unexpectedly.
[23:35] <kmc__> Ben64:
[23:35] <linxeh> kmc__: the password will be in the shadow file, but since you dont need to login as nobody it doesnt need an entry
[23:35] <grime> Linco, what kind of computer are you running it on
[23:36] <HelloWorld321> http://www.libreoffice.org/features/extensions/ says that there's a non-linear Solver extension, but I can't find any extensions for Solver in the Extention Center.  How do I install it?
[23:36] <HelloWorld321> I downloaded the oxt at http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/download/2175
[23:36] <kmc__> linxeh: when I create a user, it insists ona password.....and the system logs in as that user, so I assume it expects it to have a password, or perhaps it su's to it? I dunno, there's no doco I could see...
[23:36] <HelloWorld321> but it opens under the archive maanger, and I'm not sure where to go from there.
[23:36] <Linco> Dell, intel celeron cpu 2.00ghz, 8286gG intergrated graphics
[23:37] <grime> Lincon, is this an older comp?
[23:37] <Linco> yes, sir
[23:38] <grime> Linco, have you tried loggin in unity 2D
[23:38] <packetfrog> Linco Xubuntu might be a better option.
[23:38] <HelloWorld321> found it: use Ubuntu Software Center to install the package by name, which happens to be libreoffice-nlpsolver
[23:38] <Linco> grime: im very new to ubuntu. what's the command to log into unity?
[23:39] <grime> packetfrog, lxde is better
[23:39] <packetfrog> grime personal choices..
[23:39] <mikeliss> How do I get a newer version of a package installed than what's in the repos?
[23:39] <mikeliss> I have Ubuntu server, and I need the version of libmagic1 that's in 12.10, not 12.04.
[23:40] <safecancel> grime: thanks again - just what i was looking for :)
[23:40] <grime> Linco at login when the computer starts you can choose a session it normaly says unity or default, click it and see if you can pick unity 2D
[23:40] <kmc__> linxeh: any idea? :/
[23:40] <grime> safecancel, so you got the your screens running?
[23:41] <Ben64> mikeliss: see if you can find a ppa for it
[23:41] <Linco> Grime: when it starts it loads to the default background. that is all. a few moments later i get a compiz error. no login pops up.
[23:42] <grime> Linco, so did you set it to auto login? or since the install did it do this?
[23:42] <Linco> Grime: granted during install i set it to auto login
[23:43] <Linco> lol, yeah.
[23:43] <grime> Linco, that might be a problem haha..........thats wierd tho cuz i know ubuntu has a fallback
[23:44] <packetfrog> Linco Linco hit ctrl alt f1 or f2... get to a login and type unity-2d-shell
[23:44] <mikeliss> Ben64: Failing that? I don't see any.
[23:44] <Linco> okay packet. once sec
[23:44] <Ben64> mikeliss: compile it yourself?
[23:45] <mikeliss> Ben64: Ugh. There really should be a way to get a version of something without compiling it. Odd that there *still* isn't a way to get things like this.
[23:46] <Ben64> mikeliss: you chose 12.04, so use 12.04 packages, upgrade to 12.10 or do it yourself
[23:46] <Linco> packetfrog: "unity-2d-shell: command not found"
[23:47] <packetfrog> Linco  sudo apt-get install unity-2d-shell
[23:47] <grime> Linco, you can install gnome-panel but then you wont have unity
[23:47] <Linco> k. one sec
[23:48] <grime> packetfrog, are you always online?
[23:48] <packetfrog> Generally.
[23:48] <packetfrog> I dont sleep much.
[23:49] <grime> packetfrog, i wanna know what you know...im still beginner status yo
[23:49] <packetfrog> I know nothing.
[23:49] <packetfrog> < uses google.
[23:50] <Linco> packetfrog: installed. nothing changed. got a prompt about submiting display manager log files
[23:50] <grime> packetfrog, im sure you know
[23:50] <graft> hi, firefox won't view this svg file in the browser, it keeps trying to open it externally, what should i do?
[23:50] <graft> err, the svg file is on my local disk
[23:50] <packetfrog> Linco: http://askubuntu.com/questions/44107/disable-auto-login-from-the-cli   Get rid of autologin    lets start there
[23:51] <Linco> okay. brb
[23:51] <grime> graft, are you just double clicking or are you selecting how to open it?
[23:52] <packetfrog> graft Inkscape
[23:52] <graft> grime: i'm navigating it to it via firefox (i.e., file:///home/graft/blah.svg)
[23:52] <packetfrog> graft You need something to open it with.
[23:52] <graft> packetfrog: i want to be able to view it in firefox
[23:52] <packetfrog> graft http://www-archive.mozilla.org/projects/svg/faq.html
[23:53] <graft> i went through that already
[23:53] <graft> it doesn't help me
[23:53] <Angel0912> failed to load file amd-ucode/microcode_amd.bin any one know how to fix this error?
[23:54] <graft> how does firefox decide whether to view a file, like a jpeg?
[23:54] <OerHeks> Angel0912, sudo apt-get install amd64-microcode should fix that
[23:54] <Connor_> hi
[23:54] <Q17> hey
[23:55] <grime> graft, check the value of the pref svg.enabled on the about:config page
[23:55] <Angel0912> OerHeks:  how do i get in terminal again to do that as wont boot into linux
[23:55] <packetfrog> graft https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=368009
[23:55] <grime> Angel0912, crtl + alt + f1 or f2
[23:56] <Angel0912> thank you
[23:56] <Q17> looking for some new tools\
[23:56] <panorain> grime
[23:57] <grime> panorain, yo
[23:57] <Connor_> does anyone know how i can install ssh server onto my ubuntu server edition?
[23:57] <Connor_> i forgot to check it on install
[23:57] <unheeding> sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[23:57] <grime> Q17, tools?
[23:57] <Connor_> kay
[23:58] <panorain> grime the command sudo dd if=ubuntu-12.10-desktop-i386.iso of=/dev/sdc bs=4m  yields the following dd: invalid number '4m'
[23:58] <graft> there is no pref svg.enabled on about:config
[23:58] <Connor_> says it has not installation candidate
[23:58] <ev0lve> panorain: bs=4
[23:58] <Ben64> 4M
[23:58] <Ben64> not 4
[23:59] <panorain> grime I removed the m now the .iso appears to be copying to /dev/sdc
[23:59] <Connor_> what do i do?
[23:59] <Ben64> panorain: ... you should have used 4M