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submanI have a dual monitors, but whenever I start up Xubuntu I have to open up the nVidia Setting Manger and reset the dual monitor settings.  By default they are just acting as mirrors.00:11
moetunessubman:  tried saving the session?00:12
submanmoetunes, yes, no luck00:12
submanmoetunes, Do you mean Save to X Config?00:13
submanmoetunes, or at logout?00:13
moetunesI meant save the xsession in xfce - is the nvidia settings manager saving what you do to a file?00:14
submanmoetunes, How would I know?00:16
moetunessubman:  check in session in the settings manager00:16
submanmoetunes, I don't see a 'session' in 'settings manager'00:25
submanmoetunes, Do you mean in nvidia settings manager?  The 'Save Current Configuration' checkbox?00:27
moetunessubman:  that should save the settings to /etc/X11/xorg.conf so they are used at every startup00:27
moetunesshould be a sessions and startup entry in the settings manager - not on a xfce box atm00:28
submanActually it asks me for a place to store a file named .nvidia-settings-rc.00:29
submanI've tried the save to x configuration file and that does not work either00:29
submanmoetunes, you lost me with 'should be a sessions and startup entry...'00:30
submanmoetunes, I found it.00:30
submanmoetunes, nope, I just logged off and back on again after saving the session and I still had to reset the monitors00:34
moetunessubman:  do you have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf file?00:35
submanyes00:35
moetunesis that set up to have the monitors how you want them? does it mention xinerama?00:36
submanIt does not mention xinerama00:36
moetunesI guess that's why you are having the issue - do you start nvidia-settings or whatever you use with sudo?00:37
submanNo00:37
moetunesor gksu?00:37
submanProbably can't save then?00:37
moetunestry that so it can write the file00:37
moetunes!gksu00:38
ubottuIf you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)00:38
submanHow do you find the name of a program in the Settings Manager to be able to run it from a terminal?00:39
moetuneswhich one are you trying to run? what do you do in the settings manager to run it?00:40
moetunesxfce's monitor setup?00:40
submanNVIDIA X Server Settings00:41
moetunesin a terminal do   gksudo nvidia-settings00:41
submanyeah, it is nvidia-settings-manager00:42
moetunesthis is a neat tip00:42
moetunes!tab00:42
ubottuYou can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.00:42
submanThanks!00:42
moetunesceers00:42
submanI'm going to try a logout and back in again00:42
moetunescheers00:43
submanmoetunes, nope, same problem00:44
nakphell low! :P00:45
nakpanybody here having troubles with live usbs?00:46
holsteinnakp: no... i use unetbootin, and i format my sticks00:46
moetunessubman:  is the xorg.conf file changed from before?00:47
submanmoetunes, I only see it addressing one monitor in there.  Monitor000:49
moetunessubman:  that's the bit you have to sort out first - try this link00:49
moetunes!nvidia00:49
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto00:49
nakpholstein: so did I but it always messed up with "config apt for extra idunnowhat from CD"00:49
holsteinnakp: what iso?00:49
nakpx86 one00:50
nakpi checked the sum :/00:50
holsteinnakp: the live one? it works fine for me00:50
submanmoetunes, It looks like the xorg way does not work and you have to use a xranrd command line at startup.  PITA.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1982974&page=200:50
nakpand ive used it before00:50
nakpi removed it and used elementary00:50
nakpthen back to xubuntu00:50
nakpand it was messed up00:50
holsteinnakp: it?? the usb?00:51
nakpsame iso, same stick, same unetbootin version00:51
nakpno00:51
nakpit's not the usb00:51
nakpthe error is like couldnt config apt to install extra packages or something like that00:51
nakpnow i used LiLi and did the job :P00:52
holsteinnakp: its live.. you just install from it, and then install whatever you like00:52
submanmoetunes, I tried Lubuntu some time ago and it had the very same issues.  I never really dug into it at the time though.00:52
nakpholstein: intall is aborted :P00:52
nakpi think its more related to unetbootin than xubuntu00:53
holsteinnakp: then, i would just the installation source.. i also dont install packages while installing the os00:53
nakpbut i still was curious about it because as you, i've installed same iso with same usb stick before00:53
holsteinnakp: did you select "install upgrades while installing"00:53
nakpit fails even when dc and without fluendo stuff00:53
nakpnope00:53
nakpnever00:53
holsteinnakp: well, if everything is *exactly* the same, and its failing, then i think you are missing something somewhere00:54
nakpit might be that i did not completely erase previous "livecd" i had00:54
nakpbecause i had xubuntu > elementary > xubuntu00:55
holsteinnakp: i format the stick00:55
nakpnah i have too many files there.. i just delete old files00:55
nakpfirst time i did00:55
nakp2nd too00:55
nakp3rd back to xubuntu i didnt00:55
holsteinsounds like a troubleshooting vector to me00:55
nakpanyway xD im here not to solve my problem hahaha00:55
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nakpjust to feedback :P00:55
nakpbecause ive seen just a few posts about this since 11.04 and nobody had a solution :P00:56
holsteinnakp: sure, but if you format, and it works, then we *know* its not related to xubuntu and/or the iso.. then you can properly give feedback in the right place00:56
holsteinnakp: i dont have the issue to seek a solution00:56
nakpi meant.. if someone else comes around with the same issue :P00:57
holsteinnakp: they have, and i say "i format and use unetbootin" and so far, when they do the same, all is well00:57
nakpwell :P00:58
nakpi only have 1 stick haha00:58
nakpi rather delete all linux related files to make it work00:58
holsteinnakp: or to try to make it work, but maybe not00:58
holsteini had an issue a few times without formatting.. now i just do it each time00:59
nakpthe error is related with checking files and some signature.pgp files00:59
nakpso it should do the job00:59
holsteinnakp: should...00:59
nakpwell :P01:00
nakpg2g now01:00
nakpthank you for your time ñ_ñ01:00
nakpsee ya :P01:00
holsteinnakp: good luck!01:00
bravisso do i want Xubuntu or ubuntu?01:10
holsteinbravis: this is the xubuntu channel, so you will likely be swayed to xubuntu... xubuntu *is* ubuntu, though they look and feel different.. i would try them live and decide which you prefer01:12
bravisthis is why i ask because the follow up is what features you like more is it Xfce only or others01:14
holsteinbravis: but, this is the xbuntu channel.. so of course we like XFCE.. but its a matter of opinion01:16
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bravisis there a startup disk creaton in Xbuntu?02:57
Unit193Yes, and even if there wasn't, you could always install it.  It is in settings manager.02:57
bravishmm not seeing it  so i will install03:00
bravisgood to go03:23
bravisOk cannd? someone tell me how to deal with LOW sou04:43
braviscan someone tell me how to correct the low sound?04:46
holstein!sound | bravis04:48
ubottubravis: If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings.  If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files,  see !players and !mp3.04:48
bravisty04:49
distyHi, morning.09:34
distyMy sound has disappeared.09:34
distyHi, the sound has disappeared in my xubuntu.12:08
distyPlease, help me.12:08
distyI've tried to fix it with this page: http://www.freewayprojects.com/2012/05/sound-not-working-in-xubuntu-12-04-on-my-new-hp-elitebook-will-not-unmute-with-media-button-solved/12:12
zorgborgdisty: have you tried restarting your comp?12:12
distyBut I think I've worsened.12:12
distyYes, zorgborg.12:12
distyAfter # apt-get purge linux-sound-base alsa-base alsa-utils / apt-get install linux-sound-base alsa-base alsa-utils / apt-get install xubuntu-desktop /  apt-get purge remove pulseaudio ....12:14
distyAfter all that, I restart the comp and the volume icon has disappeared.12:14
distyAnd continue the issue.12:14
zorgborgdisty: no wonder after al that purging, i fail to see how installing xubuntu-desktop would do anything when you're already using xubuntu12:16
zorgborgzorgborg: maybe when you've removed and reinstalled those sound packages its messed up configuration files or something?12:17
zorgborglove how i addressed the last message to myself12:18
distyxDD12:18
distyWhat can I do, zorgborg?12:19
zorgborgzorgborg: im no expert, but those instructions are for 12.04, aren't you using 12.10?12:19
distyHaha.12:20
distyNo idea.12:20
distyHow could I see it?12:20
distyI don'r remember the command.12:21
zorgborgdisty: the website you provided above gives instructions for re-enabling sound in xubuntu 12.0412:21
disty12.0412:22
distyI have.12:22
zorgborgdisty: and to see your previous commands, in a terminal you can press up or open the history file with: history | less12:22
distyOk, thx.12:23
distyAnd to reenabling sound?12:23
distyxDD12:23
disty:(12:23
zorgborgdisty: if you're using 12.04, you should really upgrade to 12.1012:24
distyHow.12:25
distyI'm a noob.12:25
zorgborgdisty: especially as it says at the bottom of that webpage "until a recent xubuntu update the sound would start up on mute"... so seems like upgrading may solve the issue12:26
zorgborgdisty: well, how did you manage to install xubuntu 12.04?12:26
distyCd-rom.12:26
zorgborgdisty: did you get the CD from a friend or the internet? you can download the xubuntu 12.10 ISO file from the xubuntu website, install that on a CD or USB and install it12:28
distyDownload by me.12:29
distyOk.12:29
distyThe matter is that I have not time in this moment for all this.12:30
distyIf there is no choice...12:30
zorgborgdisty: you can maybe just upgrade to 12.10 without a CD, open up software sources and make sure in the updates tab that 'notify me of a new ubuntu version:' is set to 'for any new version'12:32
zorgborgdisty: there probably is a choice but i havent a clue how to fix the sound issue specifically, im just suggesting what i would do :/12:33
distyYou're charming, don't worry.12:33
zorgborgzorgborg: but if software sources is set to that it should give you the option of upgrading to 12.10 anyway12:33
distyHahaha.12:36
zorgborgha dammit12:36
distyYou love to yourself.12:37
distyzorgborg: <3 zorgborg12:37
zorgborgdisty: im knackered, that explains it, never happened b412:39
zorgborgdisty: but anyway if you do upgrade to 12.10 via either means, make sure you back up all your files first, tho if you use install CD it should give you the option of upgrading 12.04 to 12.10 while keeping all your files, so shouldn't take too long to upgrade i would think12:40
distyOk, friend, :-)12:41
zorgborgdisty: no problemo12:42
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XATRIXHi guys, any idea how can i map Win button to open the main menu ?13:14
zorgborgXATRIX: winkey is known as the 'super' key i think, go to settings > keyboard > shortcuts > to modify or create shortcuts13:18
zorgborgXATRIX: alt + F1 is already mapped to open the main menu btw13:19
XATRIX<Primary>Escape ?13:20
XATRIXWhat's that ?13:20
zorgborgXATRIX: primary is ctrl for some reason in xubuntu13:20
XATRIXOk, thanks13:21
XATRIXxfdesktop --menu Super_L - nothing happens13:22
zorgborgXATRIX: you can remap that shortcut by double clicking on it, and a little window pops up to remap it, and you just press the keys you want as the new shortcut (at the same time ofc) and viola13:22
GridCubeXATRIX, you need xfce4-popup-applicationsmenu13:24
GridCubeno xfdesktop13:24
XATRIXAh13:25
XATRIXYup it works13:25
GridCube:) it should13:25
XATRIXBut i can't open/close it with Win key13:26
XATRIXOnly open13:26
GridCubeescape13:26
GridCubein any case, you should learn to alt-f2, and use the appfinder :P13:26
XATRIXYep!13:26
XATRIXThanks :)13:27
XATRIXIt's for my GF :)13:27
GridCube:D teach her new more productive ways of working :D13:27
XATRIXAs for me, so it's better to use awesome wm if you want appfinder ;)13:27
GridCubeP: i just type and hope it works13:28
XATRIXYea :)13:29
XATRIXAnyway thanks for all13:29
GridCubeno problem :) good lucks13:29
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zorgborghi, does anyone know how to rotate images in imageviewer and save them as the rotated version? rotating them and then saving them doesnt work :(16:28
Cheri703is there an easy way to upgrade from ubuntu 12.04 to xubuntu 12.10?17:37
GridCubeyes17:38
* Cheri703 appends "and if so, how?" to the original question17:38
Cheri703it seems like a diagonal move, so I wasn't sure :)17:39
GridCubeenable the updates on the Software Sources settings17:39
Cheri703I'm not doing it in real time17:40
Cheri703it'll be after I get back from errands later :)17:40
Cheri703I can poke you to ask then17:41
GridCubeopen usc, go to edit > Software Sources, go to the updates tab, go to the last option and change "notify me of a new xubuntu version" from "only for lts" to "any"17:42
Cheri703no, I have vanilla ubuntu on my one computer17:42
Cheri703I want to go from vanilla ubuntu 12.04 to xubuntu 12.1017:42
GridCubeyou cant just do that17:42
Cheri703I get that I can do xubuntu to xubuntu, I'm wondering if there's an easy path from vanilla to x17:42
Cheri703ok, that was my initial question17:43
GridCubeyou need to install xubuntu-desktop and then update it17:43
Cheri703thanks :) I was hoping to avoid a full reinstallation, but if that's the only option, that's fine. it's a slow computer and is very laggy with regular ubuntu. has been for a while, but I just dealt with it17:43
Cheri703ok17:43
GridCube!purexubuntu | Cheri70317:44
ubottuCheri703: If you want to remove all !KDE and !Gnome packages and have a default !Xubuntu system follow the instructions here « http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce »17:44
GridCubeif you remove mainbuntu before updating it will not be so much work17:45
ZelouilleCheri703: Ubuntu 12.04 is a LTS (Long Term Support) version. Ubuntu 12.10 is not. So, make sure of what you're doing.17:45
Cheri703yeah I know :)17:46
Cheri703alright, I'm off. thanks!17:46
GridCubenp17:47
Levy_Hi, i have a question. How to install a new themes in xfce ? I'm download the tar.gz theme files, uncompres the files in .home/user/.themes folder, and the theme not appear nothing in the theme selector menu18:37
Levy_the theme file names: 124442-Pulse-Glass.tar18:38
baizonLevy_: http://xubuntugeek.blogspot.de/2012/06/how-to-install-desktop-themes-in.html18:39
baizonLevy_: but it has to be compatible with xfce :)18:40
Levy_another xfce themes download pages ?18:41
Levy_this 124442-Pulse-Glass.tar file i'ts not compatible with xfce 4.10 ?18:42
holsteinLevy_: the theme should say what its compatible with18:44
SonikkuAmericaLevy_: Try dumping (extracting) the tarball into /usr/share/themes/ (as root)18:45
SonikkuAmericaLevy_: Then go into the Settings Manager and find it18:46
Levy_how to install XFCE-Themes-Manager in comand line ?18:46
SonikkuAmericaThe only one I found is only compatible with GTK+ 218:48
Levy_i'm newbie in linux, and don't know what is GTK+ 2 :)18:50
holsteinLevy_: you can always search terms you dont know.. but, this is related to XFCE suppport18:51
SonikkuAmerica!gtk | Levy: here's a brief description18:51
ubottuLevy: here's a brief description: GTK is the !GIMP toolkit, which forms the base of !GNOME and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI18:51
SonikkuAmericaLevy_: Also, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GTK18:52
Levy_thanks for all ansvers, i'm triing to install new themes18:55
Levy_sorry for my bad englis :(18:56
ncmcxxanyone know how to use fdisk? i am trying to format a usb flash disk that requires 2 partitions one for the OS I am guessing and one for SWAP?19:04
baizonncmcxx: you can use GParted19:05
baizonit has a nice GUI :)19:05
ncmcxxok will try it :) thanks19:07
GCTAplease can we *please* have gparted on xubuntu?19:13
GCTAwe need that more than we need sudoku and minesweeper19:13
holsteinGCTA: its in the repos.. you can install it if its not there by default19:14
GCTAits not there by default. thats my point19:14
holsteinGCTA: its easy to install.. just search for it in the package manager of your choice19:14
GCTAwe need gparted more than we need sudoku and minesweeper19:15
holsteinGCTA: sure, and you can have it.. its an easy install. its usually one of the first things i install19:15
holsteinGCTA: im just guessing here, but one argument could be that, if you need/want gparted, you will be the kind of person who can install it, and will understand what can be broken with it.. the others you mention are just to round out a well balanced desktop experience19:16
GCTAcan i just let this request hang untill some one has an actualy question?  can we please have gparted by default? er need t more than sudoku / minesweeper19:17
bazhangfile a wishlist bug or brainstorm suggest it GCTA19:17
holsteinGCTA: if the focus of xubuntu were "a distro where you can create and edit partitions", i would personally totally agree.. but as it is now, if you need gparted, you likely know how to get it19:17
bazhang!brainstorm | GCTA19:18
ubottuGCTA: Post your ideas for Ubuntu at http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com and vote for the ones you like!19:18
bazhangor just do what most more advanced users do: install it and/or get the SixtyMb iso gparted livecd GCTA19:18
holsteinGCTA: imagine if someone in your family had just gotten xubuntu, and they are not "computer savvy".. imagine what they could break with gparted19:19
drcon the other hand, <knowing> what you are doing but not <watching> what you are doing can have bad results too...personal experience :(19:23
holsteini can understand why gparted might not be included by default, for a desktop workstation focused installation... less chance for "bad results"19:25
xubuntu647hey there.19:27
drcJust out of curiosity, does ubuntu still include gnome disk utility by default (I know they used to)?19:27
bazhangits called Disks now drc19:28
drcah, thanks19:28
xubuntu647I just downloaded xubuntu torrent through utorrent and would like to put it on a usb stick  to install on my computer19:28
drchttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick19:29
bazhang!unetbootin | xubuntu64719:29
ubottuxubuntu647: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent19:29
xubuntu647The file is still under utorrent as 'completed' but still seeding. What is the next step please19:29
Unit193drc: If installed on Xubuntu, it's in the settings manager.19:29
bazhangread the link above xubuntu64719:30
xubuntu647actually, I know how to load ubuntu from the usb, but I don't know how to get the torrent version from utorrent to a folder on my computer to put on usb with penlinux19:31
xubuntu647sorry...meant pendrive19:31
drcxubuntu647: Read The Links19:31
bazhangthere are ways to do it with windows, xubuntu64719:32
SuperLagWith Unity you can access the menus for an app along the top of the screen, when you drag your mouse pointer up there... with XFCE, where do an app's menus go? For example, with Thunderbird, it seems as if its menus disappear.19:33
pleia2SuperLag: do you have a screenshot demonstrating? Xfce works like old gnome did, the menus are inside the application, not in the xfce panel19:35
drcSuperLag: They shouldn't dissappear...is it all apps or just Thunderbird.19:36
designbybeckI have a new install of Xubuntu 12.10, but is there a awy to get the XCFE updated to the latest as well?19:51
designbybeckoh, sorry. I lied. This is only Xubuntu 12.1019:51
designbybeckmy bad! Not sure if this lil' old computer will run anything else newer. But I might give it a try19:52
designbybecksorry This is only 11.10 I have now19:52
designbybeckah yes, that is why... 12.10 doesn't fit on a CD and  I don't have a DVD drive for this old system19:53
bazhangPPa perhaps19:54
bazhang!ppa19:54
ubottuA Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge19:54
drchttps://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+archive/xfce-4.12 states that going from 12.04 requires the 4.10 ppa but nothing about older versions, so I'm guessing that it's not in the cards19:56
designbybeckah Ok... maybe I can try a ppa?19:57
designbybeckor force upgrade!19:57
designbybeckI didn't even think about this for this old machine19:57
knomedesignbybeck, you should be able to upgrade normally to 12.0419:57
knomedesignbybeck, and then 12.1019:58
designbybeckI'll give tit a try drc. I don't mind breaking it if I do! ;)19:58
designbybeckSo it sees 12.10 is a new release. Can I just go from 11.10 to 12.10?20:00
bazhangnot in one step, no20:00
designbybeckhmm ok... So the Update Manager is telling me 12.10 is availbable. So I need to add the 12.04 ppa first and do it that why20:01
bazhanggo for the PPA after getting to 12.1020:02
designbybeckOk, thanks for the feedback20:03
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xubuntu083Hello, I am having troubles installing XUbuntu on a virtual machine with Virtual Box21:14
toraxxubuntu083: what kind of troubles?21:15
xubuntu083it wont install at all21:18
GCTAany specific errors?21:34
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Guest11673anyone know how can i set root pass on Xubuntu?21:55
knome!rootsudo | Guest1167322:00
ubottuGuest11673: sudo is a command to run command-line programs with superuser privileges ("root") (also see !cli). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (GNOME, Xfce), or !kdesudo (KDE). If you're unable to execute commands with sudo see: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo22:00
Guest11673i want to install an abode flash player for youtube...from an .rpm file and i must be root to do that..22:05
knome!info flashplugin-installer22:06
ubottuflashplugin-installer (source: flashplugin-nonfree): Adobe Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 11.2.202.273ubuntu0.12.10.1 (quantal), package size 6 kB, installed size 136 kB (Only available for i386; amd64)22:06
knomeGuest11673, install that package22:06
harrisrAlways have your stuff when you need it with @Dropbox. Sign up for free! http://db.tt/GEUdip68 just sign up and install dropbox so we both get space22:06
Unit193!info adobe-flashplugin partner22:06
ubottuadobe-flashplugin (source: adobe-flashplugin): Adobe Flash Player plugin version 11. In component main, is optional. Version 11.2.202.273-0precise1 (partner), package size 6442 kB, installed size 17162 kB (Only available for i386; amd64)22:06
Unit193harrisr: Don't spam here.22:07
harrisri need space sign up22:07
Unit193Also don't spam #ubuntu, that is not the place for it.22:07
Unit193You can buy a better plan.22:07
harrisrhow do u know i was on ubuntu22:07
Guest11673knome thank you for the help man i ve done it :D22:12
knomeGuest11673, no problem. have fun!22:12
knomeGuest11673, and remember you don't need root, simply use sudo (or gksudo for graphical applications)22:13
zoredacheis there something like ssh-askpass I can add to my script to get an arbitrary password via a GUI prompt and then feed it to an app?22:18
GridCubezoredache, gnome-keyring?22:19
SuperLagpleia2: looks like the menu bar got disabled. I don't know how. It was working with Gnome. (sorry for my delay in response)23:05
GridCubeSuperLag, what problem do you have23:20
GridCube?23:20
ZelouilleSuperLag: you probably need to remove thinderbird-globalmenu if you came from Ubuntu/Unity23:42

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