[00:01] <xxiao> why is package rebuild giving me permission errors?
[00:01] <xxiao> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5577868/
[00:03] <xxiao> dpkg-source -x qemu-kvm_1.2.0+noroms-0ubuntu2.12.10.2.dsc  gave me same errors, permission denied
[00:06] <sarnold> xxiao: any change if you leave off the 'fakeroot'?
[00:07] <xxiao> sarnold: dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -b messed it up
[00:08] <xxiao> rebuilding qemu-nbd and see if that helps
[00:08] <xxiao> how do I pass -j12 to apt-get -b?
[00:09] <sarnold> xxiao: try DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=-j12
[00:39] <slangasek> sarnold: DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=parallel=12
[00:39] <slangasek> $DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS is keyword-based
[00:40] <sarnold> slangasek: ah! thanks :D
[03:44] <hallyn> kees: I assume you mean at add_id_mapping, to check for delayed write errors?
[03:45] <hallyn> not sure the id_mapping file would do that, though, in this case.  (haven't checked)
[04:56] <xxiao> is it ok to disable beam.smp. the cpu sucker?
[05:13] <xxiao> is  ubuntu-12.10-server-powerpc.iso 32 or 64 bit?
[05:13] <xxiao> i mean the filesystem
[05:13] <xxiao> i'm having trouble with 64bit kernel / 32bit ubuntu 12.10 on ppc
[05:15] <xxiao> guess it's 32bit, as it's not named ubuntu-12.10-server-powerpc64.iso, the 'server' lable confuses me...
[05:16] <xxiao> my issue is that 32bit qemu-nbd dislikes 32bit filesystem
[05:16] <xxiao> while runnning a 64bit kernel
[09:18] <cjwatson> xxiao: 32-bit userspace, indeed
[14:08] <jtaylor> are old daily builds of compiz somewhere?
[14:08] <jtaylor> looks like the one from feb 26 broke java apps
[15:58] <vibhav> 21:20 < KHendrik> did I seriously just brick two phones ...
[15:58] <vibhav> Oops, wrong window
[16:00] <ejat> anyone can verify this : http://paste.ubuntu.com/5579567/
[17:02] <kees> hallyn: yup, and it does.
[17:03] <kees> i noticed while trying to write without cap_setuid
[20:19] <IDWMaster> How do I recommend a package (library) for inclusion in one of the Ubuntu repositories?
[20:19] <mlankhorst> best would be to get it in debian first, then request inclusion for ubuntu
[20:22] <IDWMaster> So I should probably dual-boot a Debian installation?
[20:22] <IDWMaster> Or is there a better way
[20:22] <IDWMaster> Why Debian first?
[20:24] <slangasek> Ubuntu derives most of its packages from Debian, and getting it into Debian usually provides for more sustainable maintenance over the long term
[20:24] <slangasek> and if it's in Debian, more people benefit from the package's availability - Ubuntu users, but also Debian users
[20:24] <slangasek> but there's no need to dual-boot to get a package into Debian; you can do most development work in a chroot
[20:24] <slangasek> (or VM)
[20:25] <IDWMaster> OK
[20:25] <IDWMaster> So pbuilder would be a good tool for this
[20:25] <slangasek> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Debian/ForUbuntuDevelopers
[21:12] <runeks> anyone know why gdb is not loading symbols from files placed in /usr/lib/debug/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/ ?
[21:12] <runeks> installed via the freerdp-dbg package
[22:51] <chilicuil> NCommander: hi there, sorry to bother, I was wondering if you could be able to help with bug #1113648
[23:29] <Maccer> Anyone know where I can look up the maintainer for a certain package or what guidelines I need to follow so I can take over? There's a package here that hasn't been updated in quite a bit even though both there is a higher stable and unstable version. (It's an audio player)
[23:30] <penguin42> Maccer: apt-cache show   will show you the maintainers
[23:31] <Maccer> I found out through launchpad, but apparently the Debian Multimedia Maintainers group maintains this package... hrm.
[23:31] <penguin42> ah, I think they have a mailing list
[23:33] <Maccer> But it looks like they maintain the unstable version if it. Yeah they do. Is there a way to add their unstable repository or can I only get their files through a .deb package?
[23:33] <penguin42> Maccer: does packages.debian.org show a newer version ?
[23:35] <Maccer> Using debian unstable (sid), it shows 3.2.4 for the i386/i686/amd64 version, and I have 3.2.3, and I'm using a non-LTS Ubuntu 12.10
[23:36] <penguin42> Maccer: What does packages.ubuntu.org say ?
[23:36] <Maccer> What surprises though is why they don't upgrade Quantal (12.10?) to 3.3.4. It's a media player.
[23:36] <penguin42> Maccer: It's probably just not happened in time; if it's in debian sid it'll probably make it into Raring (depending when it landed)
[23:37] <Maccer> penguin42: http://i.imgur.com/biwF6c9.png
[23:37] <penguin42> erm what's that got to do with anything?
[23:38] <Maccer> That's packages.ubuntu.org.
[23:38] <Maccer> I have no idea why that's displaying.
[23:38] <penguin42> oops - .com!
[23:39] <Maccer> For a second there I thought my DNS server was hijacked. Seems like they rewrite the URL so as to make it work with the subdomain.
[23:39]  * xnox ponders how does doko make source packages with @ubuntu.com without updating Maintainer fields to say Ubuntu Developers, and whether that's bad or just ugly.
[23:39] <Maccer> Seems like quantal is 3.2.3. Yeah but this is odd because 3.2.4 came out more than 4 months ago I believe.
[23:40] <Maccer> Plus I'd expect the unstable version 3.3.x to be on Quantal.
[23:40] <penguin42> Maccer: That's not how it works
[23:40] <penguin42> Maccer: So quantal came out in October, and it's version won't be updated
[23:41] <penguin42> Maccer: Quantal will have taken the 'current' debian version a month or so before that, probably around August-September
[23:41] <Maccer> Mh, so what are the release cycles for ubuntu then? It's just like debian but more frequently updated? I thought that was LTS.
[23:42] <penguin42> Maccer: Every 6 months and there's a timetable soemwhere where you can see when the sync's happen
[23:43] <penguin42> Maccer: There's talk of moving to a rolling release; the details I don't know
[23:43] <Maccer> Ah, that's a shame. Has there been a release model in linux distributions that's a hybrid bleeding edge or rolling?
[23:44] <penguin42> Maccer: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaringRingtail/ReleaseSchedule  so the sync from Debian happened in Feb
[23:44] <Maccer> Stable libraries and core libraries, but unstable things like music players.
[23:46] <xnox> Maccer: apart from at the moment we are actively discussing on ubuntu-devel to turn raring into a rolling release.