[00:20] <ScottK> lfaraone: How about I review your SRU and you get barry's NM process unstuck.
[06:37] <ScottK> lfaraone: Accepted.  Now barry's NM.
[11:16] <tumbleweed> micahg: I see blueman on rcbugs. You cherry-picked bits from 1.23-1 but seemed to have missed the gnome-icon-theme dependency, which does appear to be important
[11:29] <tumbleweed> jtaylor: seen any big increase in linker failures? (generally you seem on top of these things)
[11:29] <jtaylor> I saw a few new no-copy-dt-needed
[11:29] <jtaylor> not sure wh
[11:29] <jtaylor> in principle they should have appeared when it was first enabled
[11:30] <tumbleweed> yeah, there seem to be lots of things with libm, pulse, or Xt
[11:31] <tumbleweed> I tracked it down to binutils change, but not sure what was going on
[11:31] <jtaylor> probably related to jwilks bug a while bug that it wasn'T working as expected
[11:31] <jtaylor> let me see if I can find it
[11:33] <jtaylor> hm no, but probably it was fixed recently
[11:35] <tumbleweed> I'd also love any ideas for things to do with some new developers
[11:36] <tumbleweed> build failures and rcbugs haven't resulted in any uploads yet :P
[11:36] <jtaylor> http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2011/08/msg00445.html
[11:38] <jtaylor> indeed his testcase now fails
[11:40] <jtaylor> autopkgtests might be a place to work on
[11:40] <tumbleweed> jtaylor: thanks!
[11:40] <tumbleweed> (I'd forgotten all about that)
[12:09] <jtaylor> tumbleweed: when is your jam? I have a very easy sru on my todo list I could leave for you
[12:12] <tumbleweed> jtaylor: we're doing it :P
[12:12] <tumbleweed> just got someone started on an autopkgtest for one of my packages :)
[12:12] <jtaylor> oh, it would be bug: 1113356
[12:16] <tumbleweed> jtaylor: I handed that to ginggs, who knows, maybe you'll even sponsor it
[12:16] <jtaylor> sure
[12:17] <tumbleweed> thanks
[13:52] <lfaraone> ScottK: sure, apologies.
[13:52]  * lfaraone has been sort of afk from most FOSS recently :/
[15:21] <cjohnston> The only help that I found on the wiki about syncing a package from debian is to file a bug if you don't have upload perms is to file a bug, and include the necessary info.. Is there any other way to assist/speed up the process?
[15:22] <jtaylor> use requestsync
[15:22] <jtaylor> aka, sync request done in 10 seconds
[15:23] <cjohnston> jtaylor: I completed that... I am referring to actually helping to move the process along (I only did it last night, but if there is another way to assist with it is what I'm asking)
[15:23] <jtaylor> bug number?
[15:24] <cjohnston> bug #1139097  I have a couple more that I'm going to be doing in the next day or two as well...
[15:25] <jtaylor> the bugs are added to a queue which is pretty large
[15:25] <jtaylor> main is to a large part handled by canonical, so less work is done on the weekend
[15:25] <cjohnston> right.. hense asking if there is any other help I could provide.. If there was something I could do to make it easier, (I honestly have no idea if there is, but I doubt it) then I'm willing to put forth the effort
[15:26] <cjohnston> I understand the weekend part.. I feel like I'm the only one who works weekends alot of the time :-/
[15:26] <jtaylor> for syncs there is not much you can do except testing it good
[15:26] <cjohnston> I figured, but couldn't hurt to ask.
[18:42] <Laney> cjohnston: yeah, not really - but they are usually sponsored pretty fast in my experience
[18:42] <Laney> the same advice applies as for all sponsoring - ping if you don't hear anything in a reasonable period of time
[18:46] <cjohnston> Laney: ack
[18:56] <siretart> debfx: around? do you know if anyone is already working on a virtualbox 4.2 package?
[19:25] <cjohnston> if syncing a package in raring will fix multiple CVE's is that better than patching the version in Ubuntu? If so, should I open a sync request for it and just comment in the security bug? (security bug is still valid for older releases, though I guess they could possibly be synced over as well, if that is better than doing a delta)
[20:18] <notgary> Is there anyone here who can help me with this question? http://askubuntu.com/questions/263193/ibus-package-not-found-while-trying-to-build-gnome-settings-daemon
[20:22] <Laney> notgary: you want libibus-1.0-dev
[20:22] <Laney> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=ibus-1.0.pc&mode=exactfilename&suite=raring&arch=any
[20:43] <notgary> Laney, thanks a lot :0
[20:43] <notgary> :)
[20:54] <jbicha> notgary: or you can build with --disable-ibus
[20:55] <notgary> jbicha, Thanks a lot. That one is preferable.
[20:56] <notgary> jbicha, how can I find out if the package I'm trying to build can be built without certain dependencies?
[20:57] <jbicha> notgary: for GNOME stuff you can try reading the configure.ac
[20:58] <jbicha> also, depending on what you're trying to do, you may find https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3-staging/+packages useful
[20:59] <Laney> what are you trying to do?
[20:59] <Laney> you might find building in some other way like jhbuild more pleasurable
[21:00] <IDWMaster> I have experience with the Ubuntu packaging system and Launchpad and am looking into getting some of my packages into Ubuntu under the GPLv3 license, what do I need to do to get started?
[21:01] <notgary> I want to build gnome-control-center so I can work on a bug. I trying to work on the latest source (Gtk+ 3.7.10-based) which is requiring me to go straight to Gnome for the latest sources. I can see that version of Gtk in Gnome3 staging. Is there a way I can upgrade my raring system to pull all of the in?
[21:01] <notgary> and there's a lot of dependent packages I'm having to build too
[21:05] <jbicha> notgary: one way is  to use ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3 and ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3-staging to update your system to GNOME 3.7.90, then run sudo apt-get build-dep gnome-control-center and install jhbuild, then run jhbuild buildone gnome-control-center
[21:05] <IDWMaster> I'm looking to get appToolkit and crosslibs into the repositories from my PPA: https://launchpad.net/~webadm/+archive/idwpackages/+packages
[21:05] <jbicha> the staging PPA has some regressions though...
[21:07] <IDWMaster> Hmm
[21:08] <IDWMaster> I should probably upload to Debian first though; but they're preparing a new release now so it may not be the best timing
[21:09] <notgary> IDWMaster, Debian would be a good way to do it. I've never done it myself, but I think this doc is what you want http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/developers-reference/pkgs.html
[21:19] <notgary> jbicha, Thanks a lot for that. When I try to run jhbuild buildone gnome-control-center I get the error jhbuild: install prefix (/opt/gnome) can not be created
[21:22] <jbicha> notgary: well you'll need to either create that directory or tell jhbuild where you want to install stuff instead
[21:23] <jbicha> here's an excerpt from my ~/.config/jhbuildrc  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5580485/
[21:27] <notgary> jbicha, Thanks a lot. I've just copied that paste and stuck it in my own file. It's building now and I'll let you know how it goes.
[21:28] <notgary> jbicha, So is jhbuild just a tool for scripting the download and building of a packages and all its dependencies? Earlier tonight, as I was going through all these Gnome build, I was wondering if something just like this existed :)
[21:29] <jbicha> notgary: you're probably have a few more problems actually since gnome-control-center needs newer versions of network-manager, modem-manager, colord than we currently have
[21:30] <jbicha> you can use jhbuild buildone on those first and maybe you need repos['git.freedesktop.org'] = 'git://anongit.freedesktop.org/git/' for those
[21:38] <Logan_> jbicha: Hey, regarding that multi arch Python bug, I just tried building virtualbox locally, and it still fails to find Python...
[21:40] <jbicha> Logan_: do you have the buildlog? because I have things that failed to build with python in mid-January that build fine now
[21:46] <notgary> jbicha, I'm getting a dependency issue on gnome-desktop3. It wants 3.7.5 but I only have 3.6.2 installed. I've checked the gnome3-staging page and 3.7.9 is in there and that repo is in my sources.list, but when I do 'apt-cache showpkg gnome-desktop3', it can't find it. Problem persists after updating and upgrading.
[21:47] <debfx> siretart: I started working on it a bit. I can push the branches if you are interested.
[21:49] <jbicha> notgary: I believe you need a dist-upgrade
[21:49] <siretart> debfx: that would be great, thanks!
[21:56] <ricotz> siretart, i have a ppa with 4.2.8
[21:57] <Logan_> jbicha: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5580563/
[21:58] <ricotz> Logan_, you need to patch configure.ac to use the pkg-config file python provides
[21:59] <debfx> siretart: done, it's in the experimental branch. you also need a newer version of kbuild.
[22:01] <neo31> We need a mentor to help ubuntu-tn introduce packaging to north africa. we have been working on scribus for long hours and we are stuck with some errors you can find on http://pastebin.com/M0Jmyf8Q
[22:02] <ricotz> debfx, hi, http://paste.debian.net/plain/239413
[22:02] <ricotz> debfx, would be nice to have that in so it can be synced
[22:03] <siretart> ricotz: cool, does it work with raring?
[22:04] <ricotz> siretart, yes
[22:04] <ricotz> i mean i guess so, since 4.2.8 added support for 3.8
[22:07] <jbicha> neo31: scribus is already packaged, it would be easier to start with the existing packaging if all you want is a newer version
[22:08] <Logan_> ricotz: Oh, were you already working on fixing this?
[22:09] <ricotz> Logan_, yes, https://launchpad.net/~ricotz/+archive/unstable/+packages
[22:10] <neo31> scribus is available as 1.4.1 and we are intending to make a package for 1.4.2, could you please tell us the guide lines to follow jbicha ? thanks (we already downloaded the source from svn and installed the requirements)
[22:10] <ricotz> siretart, ^
[22:10] <Logan_> ricotz: Awesome - I'll leave you to it then. :P
[22:11] <jbicha> neo31: I recommend you read through http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/ it's not complete but it has useful information
[22:12] <siretart> ricotz: how comes that you didn't need a newer kbuild, as debfx mentioned?
[22:14] <ricotz> siretart, idk
[22:15] <IDWMaster> Setting up Debian build environment, seems like the best way to start
[22:15] <IDWMaster> Still think it's odd that Ubuntu gets a lot of its packages directly from Debian
[22:15] <siretart> neo31: try 'dh_auto_configure --buildsystem cmake'
[22:16] <debfx> ricotz: it would be good to get a fix upstream for the python multiarch issue
[22:16] <IDWMaster> So after I publish to Debian and request a sync, do future releases of my library just automatically get put in Ubuntu, or is there some kind of manual modifications that need to be done to the package when switching from Debian to Ubuntu archives?
[22:17] <debfx> ricotz, siretart: virtualbox ships with a pre-built kbuild so it probably uses that
[22:17] <ricotz> debfx, yeah, i am not stripping the tarball
[22:17] <siretart> debfx: so what's wrong with that, what made you extracting it to a standalone package?
[22:17] <neo31> yes, we have been following the document all day long. we tried to follow  the document for creating a new package for scribus 1.4.2 and test it with our own ppa jbicha :)
[22:18] <siretart> neo31: if I'm interpreting the log correctly, then debhelper misdetects the build system and requires some help here
[22:18] <notgary> IDWMaster, Ubuntu is a derivative of Debian, so it's not strange at all that we get our packages from them. As for updating your package in Ubuntu, you can do it both ways. You can either upload your updates to Debian and they'll eventually make their way into Ubuntu, or you can use a manual process to request a merge/sync which will speed up the process
[22:19] <debfx> siretart: the problem is that it's not built from source
[22:20] <debfx> since it has to move to contrib anyway that's not a huge problem anymore but still ...
[22:20] <siretart> k
[22:21] <notgary> jbicha, I've run into a dependency issue with colord like you said I would earlier. You also mentioned something about setting a repos dictionary in jhbuildrc that I don't understand. How can I get Freedesktop repos added to the build list without having to download and build each one manually?
[22:21] <siretart> I'll try to have a look at it tomorrow or next weekend, i need to crash now.
[22:21] <siretart> good night
[22:22] <jbicha> notgary: you tried jhbuild buildone colord after adding that line to your jhbuildrc?
[22:24] <notgary> jbicha, Doh, I thought it would a single command leading to a long chain of dependency builds :P
[22:24] <jbicha> notgary: sure, you can do jhbuild build gnome-control-center if you want to try that
[22:26] <notgary> jbicha, Cool. So what's the use case for buildone over build? Surely you would want to build dependencies.
[22:27] <jbicha> notgary: I prefer the control of jhbuild buildone so that I can use system dependencies as much as possible
[22:27] <notgary> jbicha, Ah, makes sense.
[22:28] <jbicha> but I think most people just recommend jhbuild build which I think still uses system dependencies if they're already installed
[22:29] <neo31> siretart, we are still trying to found our way around. please if you have any more hints we will really appreciate it. (FYI 'dh_auto_configure --buildsystem cmake' didn't resolve the problem)
[22:39] <IDWMaster> Porting to Debian failed. What is the other way to get my package in Ubuntu when it cannot be ported to Debian?
[22:40] <IDWMaster> It has dependencies that Debian Squeeze does not support
[22:40] <IDWMaster> Specifically; it requires a newer version of g++ than is supported
[22:41] <jtaylor> debian has 4.7 in unstable and 4.8 in experimental
[22:41] <IDWMaster> OK, so do I just set pbuilder to unstable instead of squeeze than?
[22:42] <jtaylor> yes
[22:42] <IDWMaster> OK, thanks!
[22:44] <neo31> we have put the option inside the rules file as a parameter of the dh command, it seems to compile now siretart
[22:56] <chilicuil> hi there, I'm trying to fix a package.., however when Idownload it with bzr, it said it's "OUT-OF-DATE", how can I get the up to date version?, the full log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5580712/
[23:05] <notgary> jbicha, Hmm, something during this whole process has gone and hosed my system. Now when I boot all I have is a blank screen with a cursor floating around in it. I'm guessing this is something to do with the bleeding edge gnome code I installed. Does this sound familiar?
[23:10] <jbicha> notgary: you know how to use ppa-purge, right?
[23:11] <notgary> jbicha, I do now :P
[23:13] <jbicha> notgary: knowing how to unbreak your computer is a prerequisite for that PPA, did you see the message at https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3-staging/ ?
[23:15] <jbicha> there's also a #ubuntu-gnome channel if you want to discuss those ppas more
[23:19] <notgary> jbicha, Actually I missed the message. I guess every day's a school day :P
[23:28] <Logan_> james_w: Can you please perform requeue_package.py --full coreutils # ?
[23:59] <xnox> Logan_: is that for package importer?