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ryanvadehello04:18
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jphilipzwondering if people are still discussing the rolling release issue14:14
jphilipzjust finished watching the video and thought i'd drop my two cents if someone from the team would read it14:18
jphilipzwell i've been interested in rolling releases for a while as i dont like the idea of reinstalling a new version every new relase14:23
jphilipzand dont want to deal with things breaking down if conflicts arise14:23
jphilipzso i was glad to hear that opensuse, which i had on my laptop, had a rolling release version called tumbleweed14:24
jphilipzand think their approach is quite good to be implemented by ubuntu14:24
jphilipzyou have the LTS, stable rolling release, and development rolling release14:25
jphilipzthe development rolling release would be the daily rolling release14:36
jphilipzthe stable rolling release would not be a monthly rolling release, but when more stable versions of software come up they would be pushed into this release14:38
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JoseeAntonioRjsjgruber-l99-p: here I am20:54
JoseAntonioRhere too20:54
jsjgruber-xThis should appear in the chat box.20:55
JoseAntonioRit does20:55
jsjgruber-l99-pQUESTION: a question20:55
JoseAntonioRwhich appears as a normal text20:56
jsjgruber-l99-pI'm not in any way privileged here--it is run off the ubuntu-on-air schedule. Go to the schedule on top to see it.20:57
JoseAntonioRwe actually do not give privileges or anything, it's a normal chatroom20:57
jsjgruber-l99-pInteresting--your first "I am here" message is bolded. I'm not sure why.20:58
jsjgruber-l99-p"here I am"20:58
JoseAntonioRjsjgruber-l99-p: maybe because I highlighted you?20:59
jsjgruber-l99-pI don't understand?20:59
JoseeAntonioRI mentioned your nick, IRC clients highlight the person when their nick is mentioned20:59
JoseeAntonioRe.g. if I say thisisatestnick, thisisatestnick would have that message in bold, or red, or somethign different21:00
jsjgruber-xIs this hightlighted?21:00
jsjgruber-xno it's not21:00
JoseAntonioRnope21:00
JoseAntonioRjsjgruber-x: but if I mention you, it is21:00
JoseAntonioRjsjgruber-l99-p: or if I do this21:01
jsjgruber-l99-pThat's it. Now I understand. Thanks.21:01
JoseeAntonioRnp :)21:01
jsjgruber-l99-pLike to hit play in the session window to see that it works as you expect?21:02
JoseeAntonioRsure21:02
JoseeAntonioRit does work, but the video eems to be a bit oversized21:02
JoseeAntonioRs/eems/seems21:02
jsjgruber-l99-pI think people will need to adjust the size of the top window. That's what I found myself doing yesterday when I used it against the Rick Spencer session.21:05
jsjgruber-l99-pIt takes about 40% of my laptop's vertical space.21:06
JoseAntonioRjsjgruber-l99-p: would you mind changing the default link from http://ubuntuonair.com/ to http://ubuntuonair.com/#video, please?21:07
jsjgruber-l99-pMake that half. People will need to use most of their screen for the lernind window, too, I suppose. The web page has that problem. Sure, I can do that, does that eliminate the irc stuff or something?21:08
jsjgruber-l99-pIt's just an entry in a config file, (and a backup string in the program).21:09
JoseAntonioRnope, it's only an anchor to the video, it's like if the user scrolled all the way down to it21:10
jsjgruber-xCool, I'll make the change.21:10
JoseAntonioRok!21:11
jsjgruber-xI'll wait to see if you notice anything else that should change.21:11
JoseAntonioRis there any way to set the default webpage size to another one for #ubuntu-on-air sessions?21:12
jsjgruber-l99-pThat may be difficult. We suggest the last size we used a the size we want the whole window to use, but the window manager can give us anything it wants. There's also the issue of running on different size screens. Let me think about it, though, it should take some research.21:15
JoseAntonioRsure :)21:15
JoseAntonioRapart from that, I think it's working great21:15
jsjgruber-l99-panything else you want to do together?21:16
JoseAntonioRnope, I think that's all21:16
JoseeAntonioRworks as expected from what I've seen21:16
jsjgruber-l99-pYou can change the url of the video for yourself now if you want to see how that changes things--21:16
jsjgruber-l99-pLet me look it up....21:16
jsjgruber-l99-pYou can change it on the homepage: line of /etc/lernid-classrooms.d/ubuntu-on-air21:18
jsjgruber-l99-pI'm going to try it here.21:19
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JoseeAntonioRproblems over here, the video is not loading21:20
JoseeAntonioR** Message: console message:  @0: Unsafe JavaScript attempt to access frame with URL http://ubuntuonair.com/#video from frame with URL http://www.youtube.com/embed/z04ndWaVfJs. Domains, protocols and ports must match.21:21
jsjgruber-l99-pThat message comes out of webkit all of the time. I don't think that is it. It came up here ok and plays, by the way.21:23
JoseeAntonioRyou set it as ubuntuonair.com/#video, right?21:23
jsjgruber-l99-pyou might try a browser refresh at the top of the session window.21:24
JoseeAntonioRnope, still showing a black  box21:25
jsjgruber-l99-pI'll try the new url a couple of more times myself.21:26
JoseeAntonioRok, let me know if this problem persists21:26
jsjgruber-xI tried it over and over with the new url and it works here. Same computer on your end I assume.21:29
jsjgruber-xI do get the same message in the log21:30
JoseeAntonioRyep21:30
jsjgruber-xYou can't get it to work at all with refreshing the screen or reconnecting?21:30
JoseeAntonioRnope21:30
JoseeAntonioRat all21:30
JoseeAntonioRworked with ubuntuonair.com, though21:30
JoseeAntonioRgive me a sec, need to restart the router21:31
jsjgruber-xok21:31
jsjgruber-x[#ubuntu-on-air]21:34
jsjgruber-xhomepage: http://ubuntuonair.com/#video21:34
jsjgruber-xchat: ubuntu-on-air21:34
jsjgruber-xicalurl: https://www.google.com/calendar/ical/dno3ip0msg552dei3e3r7m8jl0%40group.calendar.google.com/public/basic.ics21:34
JoseeAntonioRback now21:35
JoseeAntonioRhmm, weird thing21:35
jsjgruber-xdo you think the new URL is less reliable? Could have to do with your relationship with the google hangout mechanisms?21:36
jsjgruber-xjust throughing out ideas21:36
jsjgruber-xcan't spell: just throwing out ideas21:36
JoseeAntonioRnope21:42
JoseeAntonioRit's just an url21:42
JoseeAntonioRI mean, an anchor, it's just HTML code21:42
jsjgruber-xso it's just an anchor on the very same html page and therefore shouldn't matter.21:43
jsjgruber-xIs it working now or still failing after you reset the router?21:44
jsjgruber-xme thinks about the sse2 check added21:46
JoseeAntonioRI'm checking that21:50
JoseeAntonioRstill not working21:56
jsjgruber-xJoseeAntonioR, have you double checked that you can reach the page with firefox or chrome?22:02
JoseeAntonioRI do22:02
jsjgruber-l99-pand what exactly do you see in the browser window?22:03
JoseeAntonioRthe page as it should be22:03
jsjgruber-l99-pI mean with lernid22:03
jsjgruber-xDoes the lernid browser show any part of the page?22:06
JoseeAntonioRyes, it does22:06
JoseeAntonioRshows everything but the video22:07
jsjgruber-xwhat is different about it. Did you say the video box is just black?22:07
JoseeAntonioRyep22:09
jsjgruber-xOK, would you mind executing "cat /proc/cpuinfo"? It could be that plugins are being unnecessarily prohibited.22:09
JoseeAntonioRhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/5580608/22:10
jsjgruber-xThat looks ok.22:11
jsjgruber-xand it worked once and never worked again? What have you tried?22:11
JoseeAntonioRjust running it22:12
jsjgruber-xIt did work once, though?22:13
JoseeAntonioRyep22:14
jsjgruber-xHave you tried to disconnect and reconnect to ubuntu-on-air through lernid?22:15
JoseeAntonioRyep22:16
JoseeAntonioRlots of times22:16
jsjgruber-xand you've restarted lernid without success, too?22:17
JoseeAntonioRyep22:17
jsjgruber-xGiven what you see I have to suspect the check for the sse2 feature in lernid is bad--new code. Would you mind making a change to a lernid file on your computer for me if I tell you what to change?22:18
JoseeAntonioRsure thing22:19
jsjgruber-xWierd that it would work once and no more. Let me work out a print that'll tell us whether lernid is disabling plugs--I'l be back in a few minutes.22:19
jsjgruber-xsudo vi /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/lernid/widgets/Browser.py22:24
jsjgruber-xand then go to line 70 in the file (you could you another editor like gksudo gedit, to) ....22:25
jsjgruber-xadd the print line: "        print "sse2 returns ", sse2()"22:26
jsjgruber-xso it looks like:22:26
jsjgruber-x        parts[-1]='lernid/'+VERSION22:27
jsjgruber-x        browser_settings.set_property('user-agent', ' '.join(parts))22:27
jsjgruber-x        print "sse2 returns ", sse2()22:27
jsjgruber-x        if not sse2():22:27
jsjgruber-x            browser_settings.set_property('enable-plugins', False)22:27
jsjgruber-x        else:22:27
jsjgruber-x            browser_settings.set_property('enable-plugins', True)22:27
jsjgruber-x        self._browser.set_settings(browser_settings)22:27
jsjgruber-xthe eight spaces at the beginning are critical22:27
jsjgruber-xThe third line of the above is the addition.22:27
jsjgruber-xPlease let me know if you have trouble.22:27
JoseeAntonioRjsjgruber-x: would you mind doing this with me later? I need to run out22:35
jsjgruber-xgood idea. I could use some dinner, too. When should we try to get together?22:36
jsjgruber-xBTW, what version of python and ubuntu are you using?22:36
jsjgruber-xshutting down to experiment with a newer version of Ubuntu22:58
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