[04:18] <ryanvade> hello
[14:14] <jphilipz> wondering if people are still discussing the rolling release issue
[14:18] <jphilipz> just finished watching the video and thought i'd drop my two cents if someone from the team would read it
[14:23] <jphilipz> well i've been interested in rolling releases for a while as i dont like the idea of reinstalling a new version every new relase
[14:23] <jphilipz> and dont want to deal with things breaking down if conflicts arise
[14:24] <jphilipz> so i was glad to hear that opensuse, which i had on my laptop, had a rolling release version called tumbleweed
[14:24] <jphilipz> and think their approach is quite good to be implemented by ubuntu
[14:25] <jphilipz> you have the LTS, stable rolling release, and development rolling release
[14:36] <jphilipz> the development rolling release would be the daily rolling release
[14:38] <jphilipz> the stable rolling release would not be a monthly rolling release, but when more stable versions of software come up they would be pushed into this release
[20:54] <JoseeAntonioR> jsjgruber-l99-p: here I am
[20:54] <JoseAntonioR> here too
[20:55] <jsjgruber-x> This should appear in the chat box.
[20:55] <JoseAntonioR> it does
[20:55] <jsjgruber-l99-p> QUESTION: a question
[20:56] <JoseAntonioR> which appears as a normal text
[20:57] <jsjgruber-l99-p> I'm not in any way privileged here--it is run off the ubuntu-on-air schedule. Go to the schedule on top to see it.
[20:57] <JoseAntonioR> we actually do not give privileges or anything, it's a normal chatroom
[20:58] <jsjgruber-l99-p> Interesting--your first "I am here" message is bolded. I'm not sure why.
[20:58] <jsjgruber-l99-p> "here I am"
[20:59] <JoseAntonioR> jsjgruber-l99-p: maybe because I highlighted you?
[20:59] <jsjgruber-l99-p> I don't understand?
[20:59] <JoseeAntonioR> I mentioned your nick, IRC clients highlight the person when their nick is mentioned
[21:00] <JoseeAntonioR> e.g. if I say thisisatestnick, thisisatestnick would have that message in bold, or red, or somethign different
[21:00] <jsjgruber-x> Is this hightlighted?
[21:00] <jsjgruber-x> no it's not
[21:00] <JoseAntonioR> nope
[21:00] <JoseAntonioR> jsjgruber-x: but if I mention you, it is
[21:01] <JoseAntonioR> jsjgruber-l99-p: or if I do this
[21:01] <jsjgruber-l99-p> That's it. Now I understand. Thanks.
[21:01] <JoseeAntonioR> np :)
[21:02] <jsjgruber-l99-p> Like to hit play in the session window to see that it works as you expect?
[21:02] <JoseeAntonioR> sure
[21:02] <JoseeAntonioR> it does work, but the video eems to be a bit oversized
[21:02] <JoseeAntonioR> s/eems/seems
[21:05] <jsjgruber-l99-p> I think people will need to adjust the size of the top window. That's what I found myself doing yesterday when I used it against the Rick Spencer session.
[21:06] <jsjgruber-l99-p> It takes about 40% of my laptop's vertical space.
[21:07] <JoseAntonioR> jsjgruber-l99-p: would you mind changing the default link from http://ubuntuonair.com/ to http://ubuntuonair.com/#video, please?
[21:08] <jsjgruber-l99-p> Make that half. People will need to use most of their screen for the lernind window, too, I suppose. The web page has that problem. Sure, I can do that, does that eliminate the irc stuff or something?
[21:09] <jsjgruber-l99-p> It's just an entry in a config file, (and a backup string in the program).
[21:10] <JoseAntonioR> nope, it's only an anchor to the video, it's like if the user scrolled all the way down to it
[21:10] <jsjgruber-x> Cool, I'll make the change.
[21:11] <JoseAntonioR> ok!
[21:11] <jsjgruber-x> I'll wait to see if you notice anything else that should change.
[21:12] <JoseAntonioR> is there any way to set the default webpage size to another one for #ubuntu-on-air sessions?
[21:15] <jsjgruber-l99-p> That may be difficult. We suggest the last size we used a the size we want the whole window to use, but the window manager can give us anything it wants. There's also the issue of running on different size screens. Let me think about it, though, it should take some research.
[21:15] <JoseAntonioR> sure :)
[21:15] <JoseAntonioR> apart from that, I think it's working great
[21:16] <jsjgruber-l99-p> anything else you want to do together?
[21:16] <JoseAntonioR> nope, I think that's all
[21:16] <JoseeAntonioR> works as expected from what I've seen
[21:16] <jsjgruber-l99-p> You can change the url of the video for yourself now if you want to see how that changes things--
[21:16] <jsjgruber-l99-p> Let me look it up....
[21:18] <jsjgruber-l99-p> You can change it on the homepage: line of /etc/lernid-classrooms.d/ubuntu-on-air
[21:19] <jsjgruber-l99-p> I'm going to try it here.
[21:20] <JoseeAntonioR> problems over here, the video is not loading
[21:21] <JoseeAntonioR> ** Message: console message:  @0: Unsafe JavaScript attempt to access frame with URL http://ubuntuonair.com/#video from frame with URL http://www.youtube.com/embed/z04ndWaVfJs. Domains, protocols and ports must match.
[21:23] <jsjgruber-l99-p> That message comes out of webkit all of the time. I don't think that is it. It came up here ok and plays, by the way.
[21:23] <JoseeAntonioR> you set it as ubuntuonair.com/#video, right?
[21:24] <jsjgruber-l99-p> you might try a browser refresh at the top of the session window.
[21:25] <JoseeAntonioR> nope, still showing a black  box
[21:26] <jsjgruber-l99-p> I'll try the new url a couple of more times myself.
[21:26] <JoseeAntonioR> ok, let me know if this problem persists
[21:29] <jsjgruber-x> I tried it over and over with the new url and it works here. Same computer on your end I assume.
[21:30] <jsjgruber-x> I do get the same message in the log
[21:30] <JoseeAntonioR> yep
[21:30] <jsjgruber-x> You can't get it to work at all with refreshing the screen or reconnecting?
[21:30] <JoseeAntonioR> nope
[21:30] <JoseeAntonioR> at all
[21:30] <JoseeAntonioR> worked with ubuntuonair.com, though
[21:31] <JoseeAntonioR> give me a sec, need to restart the router
[21:31] <jsjgruber-x> ok
[21:34] <jsjgruber-x> [#ubuntu-on-air]
[21:34] <jsjgruber-x> homepage: http://ubuntuonair.com/#video
[21:34] <jsjgruber-x> chat: ubuntu-on-air
[21:34] <jsjgruber-x> icalurl: https://www.google.com/calendar/ical/dno3ip0msg552dei3e3r7m8jl0%40group.calendar.google.com/public/basic.ics
[21:35] <JoseeAntonioR> back now
[21:35] <JoseeAntonioR> hmm, weird thing
[21:36] <jsjgruber-x> do you think the new URL is less reliable? Could have to do with your relationship with the google hangout mechanisms?
[21:36] <jsjgruber-x> just throughing out ideas
[21:36] <jsjgruber-x> can't spell: just throwing out ideas
[21:42] <JoseeAntonioR> nope
[21:42] <JoseeAntonioR> it's just an url
[21:42] <JoseeAntonioR> I mean, an anchor, it's just HTML code
[21:43] <jsjgruber-x> so it's just an anchor on the very same html page and therefore shouldn't matter.
[21:44] <jsjgruber-x> Is it working now or still failing after you reset the router?
[21:46] <jsjgruber-x> me thinks about the sse2 check added
[21:50] <JoseeAntonioR> I'm checking that
[21:56] <JoseeAntonioR> still not working
[22:02] <jsjgruber-x> JoseeAntonioR, have you double checked that you can reach the page with firefox or chrome?
[22:02] <JoseeAntonioR> I do
[22:03] <jsjgruber-l99-p> and what exactly do you see in the browser window?
[22:03] <JoseeAntonioR> the page as it should be
[22:03] <jsjgruber-l99-p> I mean with lernid
[22:06] <jsjgruber-x> Does the lernid browser show any part of the page?
[22:06] <JoseeAntonioR> yes, it does
[22:07] <JoseeAntonioR> shows everything but the video
[22:07] <jsjgruber-x> what is different about it. Did you say the video box is just black?
[22:09] <JoseeAntonioR> yep
[22:09] <jsjgruber-x> OK, would you mind executing "cat /proc/cpuinfo"? It could be that plugins are being unnecessarily prohibited.
[22:10] <JoseeAntonioR> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5580608/
[22:11] <jsjgruber-x> That looks ok.
[22:11] <jsjgruber-x> and it worked once and never worked again? What have you tried?
[22:12] <JoseeAntonioR> just running it
[22:13] <jsjgruber-x> It did work once, though?
[22:14] <JoseeAntonioR> yep
[22:15] <jsjgruber-x> Have you tried to disconnect and reconnect to ubuntu-on-air through lernid?
[22:16] <JoseeAntonioR> yep
[22:16] <JoseeAntonioR> lots of times
[22:17] <jsjgruber-x> and you've restarted lernid without success, too?
[22:17] <JoseeAntonioR> yep
[22:18] <jsjgruber-x> Given what you see I have to suspect the check for the sse2 feature in lernid is bad--new code. Would you mind making a change to a lernid file on your computer for me if I tell you what to change?
[22:19] <JoseeAntonioR> sure thing
[22:19] <jsjgruber-x> Wierd that it would work once and no more. Let me work out a print that'll tell us whether lernid is disabling plugs--I'l be back in a few minutes.
[22:24] <jsjgruber-x> sudo vi /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/lernid/widgets/Browser.py
[22:25] <jsjgruber-x> and then go to line 70 in the file (you could you another editor like gksudo gedit, to) ....
[22:26] <jsjgruber-x> add the print line: "        print "sse2 returns ", sse2()"
[22:26] <jsjgruber-x> so it looks like:
[22:27] <jsjgruber-x>         parts[-1]='lernid/'+VERSION
[22:27] <jsjgruber-x>         browser_settings.set_property('user-agent', ' '.join(parts))
[22:27] <jsjgruber-x>         print "sse2 returns ", sse2()
[22:27] <jsjgruber-x>         if not sse2():
[22:27] <jsjgruber-x>             browser_settings.set_property('enable-plugins', False)
[22:27] <jsjgruber-x>         else:
[22:27] <jsjgruber-x>             browser_settings.set_property('enable-plugins', True)
[22:27] <jsjgruber-x>         self._browser.set_settings(browser_settings)
[22:27] <jsjgruber-x> the eight spaces at the beginning are critical
[22:27] <jsjgruber-x> The third line of the above is the addition.
[22:27] <jsjgruber-x> Please let me know if you have trouble.
[22:35] <JoseeAntonioR> jsjgruber-x: would you mind doing this with me later? I need to run out
[22:36] <jsjgruber-x> good idea. I could use some dinner, too. When should we try to get together?
[22:36] <jsjgruber-x> BTW, what version of python and ubuntu are you using?
[22:58] <jsjgruber-x> shutting down to experiment with a newer version of Ubuntu