[00:38] <Katronix> Hi all, if you want to enable quota is it common to have to recompile the kernel?
[00:39] <sarnold> Katronix: you shouldn't have to; at least my config-3.5.0-25-generic shows CONFIG_QUOTA=y
[00:40] <Katronix>  quotatool -u braitostees -bq 200M -l '250 Mb' /home
[00:40] <Katronix> quotatool: Error while detecting kernel quota version: No such process
[00:40] <Katronix> would that indicate I have to?
[00:41] <Katronix> Or do I just need to enable something in the background?
[00:43] <sarnold> Katronix: hrm, /usr/share/doc/quota/README.Debian suggests you need a new mount option in /etc/fstab
[00:43] <sarnold> Katronix: have you added usrquota or grpquota options yet?
[00:44] <Katronix> yes looks like I needed to start the quota service
[00:44] <sarnold> cool :)
[03:22] <slide> I'm trying to install 12.04 with a usb disk, but after I select to install ubuntu, it just sits at a black screen forever. I'm not sure what else to do
[03:23] <slide> i followed this guide to make the usb bootdisk, http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[03:26] <histo> !nomodeset | slide
[03:26] <slide> i tried that too
[03:32] <histo> slide: did you check the iso that you downloaded for errors?
[03:43] <slide> histo lemmy run a md5sum
[03:44] <slide> yup md5 matches
[04:03] <histo> Can you boot the thumbdrive in another machine slide ?
[04:04] <slide> ive tried 2, with 1 it just goes to a black screen, in the second it goes to the next step, but i cant move the selection at all
[04:23] <histo> slide: Are both machines the same?
[04:23] <histo> slide: I would think you need to recreate the thumb drive or it's bad
[04:24] <slide> nope, different machines
[04:25] <slide> i recreated it again, and used a different usb boot creator =\
[04:25] <Nite_shades> i want to access my ubuntu server from outside my lan
[04:27] <Nite_shades> are there certain configs i have to make on the server in order for this to happen
[04:28] <histo> slide: still not working?
[04:28] <histo> Nite_shades: access it how via ssh?
[04:28] <Nite_shades> ssh
[04:28] <slide> nope :(
[04:29] <roasted> forward port 22
[04:29] <Nite_shades> on my router
[04:29] <roasted> and/or change the ssh port and forward that
[04:29] <roasted> if your name is frank, and your domain is google.com, you would ssh via "ssh frank@google.com"
[04:29] <roasted> pending 22 (or whateve rssh port you changed to) is forwarded
[04:30] <Nite_shades> forward port on my router or on ubuntu-server if possible
[04:31] <roasted> on your router
[04:31] <Nite_shades> oh yeah and the server im running is a virtual server running on my ubuntu host
[04:32] <roasted> in my router I set the IP of the box and the port I want to forward
[04:32] <roasted> my server has a static ip of 192.168.1.20
[04:32] <roasted> so my router has 22 forwarded to 192.168.1.20
[04:32] <roasted> so if I'm running DDNS, and my domain is google.com, ssh frank@google.com hits my router, router passes off to server, server allows SSH magic to happen.
[04:41] <Nite_shades> ok it said that connection failed
[05:44] <slide> ok so now im trying to do it on my laptop, and im getting "There was a problem reading data from the CD-ROM. Please make sure it is in the drive. If retrying does not work, you should check the integrity of your CD-ROM."
[05:45] <slide> even though im using a usb drive
[05:50] <dsmythies> leave
[05:51] <holstein> slide: i have had that before as well..
[05:52] <slide> one thing i read was that some file names are truncated
[05:52] <slide> and ive found a few
[05:52] <holstein> The basic steps to install Ubuntu Server Edition from CD or USB stick are the same for installing any operating system is what the site says
[05:52] <slide> lies
[05:53] <holstein> slide: i usually just make a CD... you can try minimal and add what you need
[05:53] <slide> if i only had any cds =\
[05:55] <slide> ok fixed all the truncated filenames i think
[05:56] <holstein> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2052939 is relevant
[05:57] <slide> thanks
[05:58] <holstein> i would try dd'ing the iso.. are you using unetbooing?
[05:58] <holstein> unetbootin*
[05:59] <histo> slide: how are you getting truncated file names?
[05:59] <histo> slide: how are you creating the thumb drive?
[05:59] <slide> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[05:59] <histo> or the cd or whatever
[06:00] <histo> slide: that will not truncate filenames
[06:01] <slide> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1692104
[06:01] <slide> had the same problem
[06:01] <slide> though my files are different
[06:10] <histo> slide: http://unetbootin.net/  use this
[06:11] <slide> yea trying that now :D
[06:13] <slide> still makes bad names =\
[06:13] <slide> http://pastebin.com/KJkD948s
[06:20] <slide> and that one doesnt even boot up =\
[06:20] <histo> why do you thihnk those are bad?
[06:21] <histo> and how is the thumb drive being formated?
[06:21] <slide> because the only other files are .deb and .udeb
[06:21] <slide> ive tried fat32 and exfat
[06:45] <histo> slide: doesn't unetbootin have hte option to format it?
[06:46] <slide> used it
[06:47] <slide> f it, ill go get some cds in the morning
[06:50] <histo> slide: Not sure what is going on. This isn't that difficult
[06:50] <slide> you would think heh
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[09:40] <andol> Techdude1011: allow-transfer would be the option you want to tune.
[09:41] <andol> (assuming Bind, that is)
[09:44] <Techdude1011> andol:sorted - was missing ip of server in allow-transfer {}. I had the ip addresses of other pc's that I want to allow.
[09:44] <Techdude1011> thanks
[09:58] <vedic> Hi I have taken static ip from my ISP which is connected to my remote pc via DLink Router. How can I configure to access server running on my remote PC?
[10:05] <histo> vedic: what kind of access ssh?
[10:06] <vedic> histo: Remote Desktop
[10:07] <vedic> I have required service running on Remote Server. I need to access that from my PC via Remote Desktop. My ISP says configure your router to do that.
[10:07] <histo> vedic: What version of ubuntu?
[10:07] <vedic> 10.04
[10:07] <histo> vedic: yeah you need to port forward
[10:07] <histo> What service are you running on the remote pc ?
[10:08] <vedic> Its monitoring software (remote cameras etc)
[10:08] <vedic> histo: I don't have port forwaring on Dlink router. But I do have routing option -> Static, Policy routing
[10:08] <histo> Why kind of dlink router?
[10:09] <vedic> Dlink 2750U
[10:09] <histo> http://screenshots.portforward.com/Dlink/DSL-2750U/Port_Forwarding.htm  yes you do
[10:10] <histo> Are you even running a desktop environment?
[10:10] <histo> You realize you are in the #ubuntu-server channel right?
[10:11] <vedic> histo: Well I realize server should not have GUI but it is just for testing. I shall remove it later
[10:12] <histo> Well first you need something serve your desktop over the network. Something like xrdp or vnc
[10:14] <lifeless> spice ftw
[10:15] <Techdude1011> Is it possible to use a web interface for remote monitoring?
[10:15] <histo> vedic: then you just need to forward whatever port that service uses to your internal ip of your sever
[10:16] <andol> Techdude1011: Well, the web interface might not neccesarily do the remote monitoring, but I think most monitoring solutions has some kind of web gui, Nagios being the classic example. I guess the main distinction being whatever you configure the monitoring using the web interface or not.
[10:18] <histo> Techdude1011: yes
[10:18] <histo> !zentyl
[10:18] <histo> what is the name of that stupid app
[10:19] <histo> !zentyal
[10:19] <histo> Techdude1011: ^^^^^^^^^^
[12:57] <crass_> shit! the kernel's disk cache has become out of sync with the disk, how can I tell it to clear the cache and _not_ write to the disk anything from the cache?
[13:02] <maswan> pull the disk then power off
[13:04] <crass_> maswan: is that an informed answer, or are you being facetious?
[13:05] <cfhowlett> :0
[13:06] <RoyK> crass_: cache disk?
[13:07] <RoyK> OH, DISK CACH
[13:07] <RoyK> oops
[13:07] <RoyK> oh, disk cache...
[13:07] <RoyK> how can that happen?
[13:07] <maswan> crass_: It's the only obvious way i can think of, yes. Hitting the power hard might or might not be enough, depending on if it gets a signal to shutdown before the power gets pulled out from underneath the kernel
[13:07] <crass_> is there a tool for getting the contents of the cache? I'd like to see what blocks might be modified
[13:08] <maswan> At least if the blocks are dirty. But then they're probably going to be written back within seconds to minutes anyway.
[13:08] <maswan> Oh, if they aren't dirty, you can just drop caches
[13:08] <crass_> yeah, I found vm/drop_caches
[13:08] <crass_> I need to figure out if anything is dirty
[13:09] <RoyK> crass_: really, the disk cache contents are never "out of sync", that is, some parts may be dirty blocks (not written yet), but that's it
[13:09] <RoyK> crass_: linux handles the cache far better if you don't meddle with it
[13:09] <crass_> RoyK: never say never, I bet I could create a reproducible test for you
[13:09] <RoyK> crass_: what really happens?
[13:10] <maswan> crass_: well, if they are dirty, /proc/sys/vm/dirty_writeback_centisecs tells you how long you have before they'd get flushed to disk. Shorter than this conversation certainly.
[13:10] <crass_> ok, actually, I'm not sure if its an inconsistency with the kernel cache or perhaps a volatile cache on the disk
[13:11] <crass_> maswan: well that's extremely reassuring
[13:11] <RoyK> ssd or spinning rust?
[13:11] <crass_> the latter, using scsi writes with the ddisable page out bit set
[13:11] <maswan> dirty pages aren't meant to stay dirty for that long, since then you'd lose state in case of a power outage.
[13:12] <crass_> yeah, I should hope so, but I'm still afraid of drop caches. I'd like to see if I can figure a way to get the cache and verify there's nothing dirty in there
[13:30] <crass_> whew, it seems to be good now. The number of dirty pages is indeed small, as seen in /proc/meminfo. This resolved apparently after echo "1" > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches, but taht might have been a coincidence
[13:31] <crass_> In order to see the real data, I had to bypass the volatile cache on the disk, so that might have been the problem all along
[13:52] <amarcolino> Hi, now that resolv.cof is set automatically by resolvconf package how do I go about making my changes permanent?
[13:53] <Daviey> amarcolino: normally /etc/network/interfaces for server
[13:55] <Daviey> amarcolino: http://askubuntu.com/questions/157154/how-do-i-add-changes-to-resolv-conf-without-them-getting-overwritten-on-reboot ?
[13:57] <amarcolino> Daviey, will check it out thanks, I wonder if the use of resolv.conf.d directory actually makes it more flexible to manage resolvconf
[14:19] <Daviey> amarcolino: i tend to favour /etc/network/interfaces.. but doesn't atter
[14:22] <amarcolino> Daviey, weird all those config and interface does the job even after restart and sets up nameservers
[14:22] <amarcolino> Daviey, thanks for the help
[15:03] <histo> amarcolino: you can add nameservers to resolv.conf.d/head file also
[15:11] <blair> is anybody running raring in OpenStack or EC2?  the new isc-dhcp's log messages are not being filtered out by logcheck: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/logcheck/+bug/1134592
[15:16] <amarcolino> histo, I can but what is the point when interface does it all and it is easier considering that I am not aware of the new file types in resolv.conf.d directory
[17:03] <amarcolino> hi, not exactly an ubuntut server question but does anyone know to install a headless virtualbox without the x11 dependencies?
[17:06] <tedski> amarcolino: http://www.howtoforge.com/vboxheadless-running-virtual-machines-with-virtualbox-4.1-on-a-headless-ubuntu-11.10-server
[17:07] <tedski> google turns that up for me
[17:08] <amarcolino> thanks tedski  but I want to install to safely install vbox while ignoring  the x11 dependecies
[17:10] <tedski> i'm sorry, did that link include the x11 deps?
[17:10] <tedski> i must have overlooked that
[17:11] <tedski> amarcolino: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/virtualbox-ose/+question/144567
[17:11] <tedski> see there
[17:11] <tedski> post #3
[17:14] <becom33> I followed this tutorial to install mod_security http://www.thefanclub.co.za/how-to/how-install-apache2-modsecurity-and-modevasive-ubuntu-1204-lts-server but I'm getting a forbidden error on a web page
[17:18] <tedski> becom33: the most common cause of 403 errors are file permissions
[17:18] <becom33> tedski, could u help me ?
[17:19] <tedski> i have no experience with mod_security
[17:21] <amarcolino> tedski, wil check that out didn't know x11-commons didn't pull all the x11 libraries
[17:24]  * becom33 anyone ?
[17:26] <tedski> becom33: feel free to post more information, i might be able to help somewhere
[17:26] <tedski> relevant logs... were you able to access this file before you setup mod_security, etc.
[17:28] <Nite_shades> i want to access my server outside my lan, I already forwarded my routers ports to 22 but still to no avail
[17:29] <Nite_shades> any suggestions
[17:30] <RoyK> if 22/tcp is indeed forwarded and no firewall is in the way (like one at the ISP), it should work
[17:30] <amarcolino> becom33, google got me this with the search criteria [mod_security 403], this links seems relevant if you have access to your logs http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=1081070
[17:30] <histo> Nite_shades: can you ssh while on your lan to server?
[17:31] <Nite_shades> everything on my lan interconnects fine
[17:32] <tedski> Nite_shades: do you have access to an outside host?
[17:32] <Nite_shades> yes, im using connectbot on android to ssh
[17:33] <tedski> Nite_shades: if you provide your external ip, i can do a short portscan to tell you if it's open
[17:34] <tedski> Nite_shades: it is possible that your isp is blocking 22... you could try to forward 2222 to 22
[17:34] <RoyK> or, if the router doesn't support that, run sshd -p 2222
[17:34] <Nite_shades> yeah my isp is most likely the culprit
[17:36] <Nite_shades> Even though im running my server on a virtualbox does it still matter
[17:37] <tedski> it does
[17:37] <tedski> if you're using nat'd networking
[17:37] <tedski> make sure you're bridging
[17:37] <Nite_shades> ok i have it on bridged adapter
[17:37] <tedski> so, it's int he same subnet as the router
[17:38] <Nite_shades> yes
[17:38] <tedski> good
[17:39] <RoyK> Nite_shades: try another, high port (> 1024)
[17:43] <Nite_shades> ok im baffled on the start port and end port on port forwarding
[17:43] <RoyK> in the router?
[17:43] <Nite_shades> yeah
[17:43] <RoyK> it's probably a port range
[17:44] <Nite_shades> i think so
[17:44] <Nite_shades> any suggestions
[17:44] <RoyK> just try to forward 2222 and start sshd -p 2222
[17:55] <Nite_shades> yeah my isp is blocking from forwarding port 22
[17:55] <Nite_shades> is there anyway around this
[17:56] <tedski> nope
[17:56] <tedski> just use a high port
[17:56] <tedski> many recommend listening on a port other than 22, anyway
[17:56] <tedski> security by obscurity thing if you ask me
[17:57] <Nite_shades> why would my isp block this port as its a secure one
[17:57] <Nite_shades> is it for security on their part or what
[18:00] <tedski> answers we'll never truly know
[18:00] <tedski> but, they probably have some idiot infosec twit saying that if you're listening on 22, you're hosting a server!
[18:00] <tedski> and then you need business class services
[18:02] <Nite_shades> ok finally got connected
[18:03] <Nite_shades> The problem i had was i was using the router  ip address instead of the external isp provided ip address
[18:03] <Nite_shades> which got me connected quickly
[20:19] <chronossc> I own a ME580J dual 3.5" hdd enclosure. It has chip JMB352 and while using as usb device I can recognize two disks I have in enclosure. With e-sata, I can regonize only first one. Did guys have idea what I can do?
[20:37] <RoyK> chronossc: what does /proc/partitions have to say while on esata?
[20:38] <RoyK> sata expanders may be a problem
[20:38] <RoyK> or port multipliers
[20:38] <RoyK> why don't you just use plain sata?
[20:41] <chronossc> RoyK: it shows only sdb1
[20:42] <chronossc> I'm using e-sata cuz I need to copy a large amount of data and my wifi isnt doing good with it
[20:43] <chronossc> this ME580J normally is connect to my Zbox running Ubuntu Server
[20:44] <chronossc> and my notebook is losting wifi from time to time, so I plugged e-sata on my note, and e-sata also not works on Zbox