[00:00] <ev0lve> Ben64: correct
[00:00] <Ben64> now its copying 4 bytes at a time
[00:00] <panorain> Ben64 upper case matters in this situation?
[00:00] <Ben64> ev0lve: you're the one that said 4
[00:00] <Ben64> panorain: yes
[00:00] <ev0lve> Ben64: i said you are right/correct.
[00:00] <Q17> yea grime tools for backtrack 5r3
[00:00] <grime> panorain, it was bs=4M;sync
[00:00] <Lice> Aloa :)
[00:01] <grime> panorain, uppercase M
[00:01] <packetfrog> Lice: do not get to close   i hate lice :(
[00:01] <panorain> grime its still copying .iso
[00:02] <panorain> grime do I need to repartition again or try it?
[00:02]  * Lice shows fangs!
[00:02] <unheeding> how would i make a script to log the user out?
[00:02] <unheeding> i'm using a wm without a menu
[00:02] <grime> panorain, spelling is crucial in cli................your fine but its gonna take a while
[00:02] <bekks> panorain: Copying 4bytes at a time will takes ages for finishing.
[00:02] <panorain> grime ok
[00:02] <Ben64> if it's to a flash drive it could be bad for it
[00:02] <panorain> bekks 4M is megabytes 4m is bytes?
[00:02] <Ben64> 4m didn't work, remember?
[00:03] <bekks> panorain: 4M is 4 megabytes, 4m isnt defined., 4 is 4.
[00:03] <panorain> bekks ok i'm going to repartition and start again
[00:03] <Ben64> don't need to partition if you're just using dd to overwrite it
[00:04] <bekks> panorain: You dont hace to repartition. Just cancel that command, and use 4M instead 4.
[00:04] <Lice> okay I've a tiny little problem that is propably easyer solved then i think. I'm trying to put 12.10 on a 2012 MBP (1 version before the retina one) now I have refi and can boot the live USB's boot buuut once I get further the screen gets black nothing happens aside from the funky ubuntu-sound. I tried adding the nouvoue thingy to the grub kernel line but didn't help either I get some output if I rmove quite and spash but still it free
[00:04] <grime> Ben64, think you can help out Q17 i dont know much about that
[00:04] <bekks> *have
[00:04] <Ben64> grime: whats a q17
[00:04] <grime> Ben64 a user who needs help
[00:05] <grime> Q17, can you ask Ben64 he might be able to help more than me
[00:05] <panorain> bekks I restarted copying now with the bs=4M input string
[00:05] <Q17> yeah
[00:06] <grime> panorain, you should be fine now
[00:06] <Angel0912> can i ask if ubuntu would detect a overclock or use stock clock?
[00:06] <panorain> grime 790 MB copied
[00:06] <grime> panorain, now your done....it should boot no problem
[00:06] <Q17> ben64 looking for some kool tools - am playing around with bt 5 r3
[00:07] <panorain> grime is there a way to now check the transfer to verify before rebooting?
[00:07] <Ben64> Q17: should ask in #backtrack-linux we don't support it here
[00:07] <Q17> ok
[00:07] <grime> thanks Ben64
[00:08] <grime> panorain, safely remove the drive then reinsert check the contents
[00:10] <panorain> grime sudo fdisk yields /dev/sdc1 boot *  system Hidden HPFS/NTFS
[00:11] <grime> panorain, your good.........just restart and you should get your the installer
[00:11] <panorain> grime I will prepare for reboot on the machine now
[00:11] <Ben64> ntfs?
[00:11] <Ben64> what image were you writing?
[00:12] <panorain> Ben64 I am writing a 12.10 .iso image
[00:12] <Ben64> shouldn't come up as ntfs
[00:13] <Catbuntu> Congrats
[00:13] <Catbuntu> oops
[00:13] <Catbuntu> wrong channel
[00:15] <panorain> grime I am now booting into what looks like 12.10 installer  Thank you
[00:15] <InFlames> is there a site for extensions for unity? like for instance, i am looking for a lamp stack menu
[00:15] <panorain> Ben64 thank you also I am a noob
[00:15] <Ben64> panorain: thats cool, we all were at some point
[00:16] <panorain> Ben64 I really like usb booting instead of cd this is my second .iso boot from usb
[00:16] <Ben64> yeah usb is nice, saves on blank cds too
[00:17] <panorain> Ben64 I agree
[00:17] <grime> panorain, welcome
[00:17] <panorain> grime should I tick install this 3rd party software?
[00:18] <grime> panorain, yeah
[00:18] <codephobic> hi
[00:18] <grime> yo
[00:18] <panorain> yo
[00:19] <grime> Ben64 are you always logged in?
[00:19] <Ben64> yeah
[00:19] <panorain> i'll be back in a bit this place is great help
[00:19] <grime> Ben64 may i ask why
[00:19] <Ben64> why not?
[00:19] <grime> panorain, go for it
[00:19] <codephobic> has anyone here found the nautilus status bar indicating the wrong amount of free space left, on directories that are shared over samba?
[00:20] <grime> Ben64 i was just curious if there was a specific reason
[00:20] <codephobic> I'm not sure if this is specific to Ubuntu 12.10
[00:20] <Ben64> grime: dunno
[00:20] <codephobic> or whether it's specific to debian (the samba file server) or whether it is a random quirk.
[00:21] <grime> codephobic, sounds more like a nautilus thing.....but im not sure
[00:21] <codephobic> grime, I've had samba shared folders connected before, from windows machines, but the status bar's never been quirky before.
[00:22] <codephobic> I googled, but found nothing useful either.
[00:22] <grime> codephobic, you running ubuntu tho right?
[00:22] <erktest> yoyo
[00:22] <grime> Ben64, what do you think?
[00:22] <grime> erktest, yo
[00:23] <erktest> just
[00:23] <codephobic> grim yes, 12.10
[00:23] <erktest> im
[00:23] <codephobic> samba file server (debian squeeze), samba (cifs) client (ubuntu 12.10)
[00:24] <grime> codephobic, when did it go goofy
[00:24] <codephobic> since I got the debian server to share files with this ubuntu
[00:24] <airlynx> Can anyone help me understand why I get drastically different results running the same benchmarks on the same computer between Ubuntu vs. Windows?  This is the Windows result: http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench2/view/1707862  and this is the Ubuntu result: http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench2/view/1708338
[00:25] <codephobic> previously, I was running a windows 7 machine hosting the same disks, but decided I wanted something much faster and I could do what little I needed in windows in a vm.
[00:25] <Ben64> airlynx: because their linux version sucks?
[00:26] <grime> codephobic, hhmmm how did you install it
[00:26] <codephobic> I hooked up the systems yesterday, didn't notice the non-shifting "5.3GB" in the nautilus status bar until I deleted a big file from a folder and nothing changed.
[00:26] <airlynx> The biggest thing I can tell is that the Linux version says 1 processor, 2 cores, 4 threads, whereas the Windows version says 1 processor, 4 cores
[00:27] <codephobic> grim, pretty standard way, installed (apt-get install ...) Samba server, samba client, cifs utils, nfs utils (wasn't sure what method to go with initially) ...
[00:27] <codephobic> configured the samba stuff in smb.conf...
[00:27] <codephobic> nothing unusual there, as far as I can figure.
[00:27] <codephobic> set up auto mount in fstab
[00:27] <grime> codephobic, alright so no unusual stuff....it works tho right?
[00:28] <codephobic> yep, works pretty much as I expected
[00:28] <packetfrog> Hey   where do you choose your session type on login screen with lightdm?
[00:28] <airlynx> Can anyone suggest a better/more accurate cross-platform benchmark tool?
[00:28] <darkhelmet46> Hey guys, I have a 3rd party .deb installed.  How can I find where the config files are?
[00:29] <bekks> airlynx: Better than...?
[00:29] <airlynx> bekks: better than geekbench
[00:29] <codephobic> maybe a little disappointing in terms of movie playback, the files felt a little more responsive when the windows machine was serving over samba.
[00:29] <grime> codephobic, so the only thing is that the memory displays something else?
[00:29] <bekks> airlynx: I never even heard of geekbench.
[00:29] <airlynx> bekks: do you have one you would suggest?
[00:29] <Ben64> benchmarks don't really matter anyway
[00:30] <grime> packetfrog, bottom panel?
[00:30] <codephobic> grime,  yep ... just a slight niggle, I'm sure, but best to try and find out why and whether or not there's something more to it.
[00:30] <Ben64> or if you really care, run the same one in the same OS on different computers
[00:30] <bekks> airlynx: Besides the irrelevance of cross platform benchmarks - what do you want to benchmark in particular?
[00:30] <panorain> grime should I tick the Encrypt the new Ubuntu installation for security box?
[00:31] <airlynx> bekks: I just want to be sure my new computer is faster than my old one, lol, and I wasn't sure if Ubuntu was utilizing the quad-core processor correctly
[00:31] <bekks> airlynx: Just take a look at "cat /proc/cpuinfo" - if you can see four cores, Ubuntu will use them.
[00:31] <grime> panorain, if you want that one is your choice
[00:32] <grime> codephobic, seems like theres a bug with using nautilus and samba together
[00:32] <panorain> grime for a home user would I be best suited to leave the encrypt box unticked?
[00:32] <airlynx> bekks: okay, thank you, maybe I'll stop messing around with benchmarks now
[00:33] <grime> panorain, i usually leave it un-ticked
[00:33] <panorain> grime ok
[00:33] <panorain> grime I am going to use the entire 320.1 GB drive for 12.10
[00:34] <panorain> grime does this seem correct or a larger swap file?
[00:34] <grime> codephobic, im reading report of people getting error messages without being a actually being errors
[00:34] <grime> panorain, thats fine unless your dual booting within the same hd
[00:35] <codephobic> grime, that's ominous, I've not experienced any (so far).
[00:35] <panorain> grime ok
[00:36] <Katronix> Hi all, if you want to enable quota do you normally have to do a custom compile of the kernel?
[00:36] <grime> codephobic, yeah so maybe its just a hiccup but might not be true
[00:36] <grime> panorain, sure thing
[00:37] <Guest1629> hello?
[00:37] <codephobic> I've googled some more, but the nearest thing I've found to the issue is something suggesting that samba and ubuntu report memory in different unit sizes GB vs GiB ... Doesn't look like my situation is a manifestation of that 'error'...
[00:38] <packetfrog> How to change session type  http://www.pasteall.org/pic/show.php?id=46347   there is not option on lightdm
[00:38] <Guest1629> hello?
[00:38] <grime> yo
[00:38] <grime> codephobic, https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+question/148866
[00:38] <Guest1629> this is support right??
[00:38] <codephobic> gime, so far, things have worked more or less as anticipated. The biggest hurdle was self-inflicted, when I spent 20mins wondering why I couldn't connect a share I set up on ubuntu, to the debian ... then I remembered I'd got firestarter running and hadn't configured it to allow the share though.
[00:39] <grime> Guest1629, something like that
[00:39] <panorain> grime what about home folder encryption box?
[00:40] <darkhelmet46> Hey guys, I have a 3rd party .deb installed.  How can I find where the config files are?
[00:40] <grime> panorain, like i said if you want you can
[00:40] <Zeptis> Good evening, is there a room for finding specific utilities in the multiverse, or is that sort of query fine here?
[00:40] <Guest1629> i need help getting the iso backtrack and installing it i already have it downloaded now how do i install please don't be too tech
[00:40] <panorain> grime sorry to be so pesky i'll stop
[00:40] <bekks> !backtrack > Guest1629
[00:41] <grime> guest1629, should be in ~/home/Downloads
[00:41] <grime> panorain, its all good!
[00:41] <codephobic> grime, ah I've had some nasty experiences transferring large files over nautilus ... never again. I do that stuff through terminal only now.
[00:42] <panorain> grime 12.10 looks pretty nice I am going to install gnome-panel at some point I am installing now
[00:42] <codephobic> more of a pain, but much more reliable. And faster too (seemingly).
[00:42] <grime> darkhelmet46, try typing the name of the program in nautilus....make sure you search in root
[00:43] <panorain> grime my brother has a 1600mhz p4 with lucid on installed will the speed decrease with installation of 12.10 on his machine?
[00:43] <grime> panorain, glad you like it, yeah whenever you want,,then just pick it from the login window
[00:43] <darkhelmet46> grime, that's what i am doing now, trying to get everything.  i already did it once, but when I reinstall the DEB, all the app preferences are still there.
[00:44] <grime> panorain, it can run but its gonna be super slow and sluggish
[00:44] <panorain> grime ok
[00:45] <Zeptis> Would anyone know of a utility to output harmonic key given a (sound) file?
[00:45] <grime> darkhelmet46, check in /usr/share
[00:45] <grime> codephobic, so yeah i think you should be fine tho
[00:46] <codephobic> thanks grime.
[00:46] <grime> codephobic, no prob.....glad i could help some
[00:46] <codephobic> :)
[00:46] <grime> Zeptis, oooo thats a tough one what have you tried?
[00:47] <panorain> grime finishing installation report speech-dispatcher disabled
[00:47] <Zeptis> Google, so far :p
[00:47] <codephobic> Got another question ... What's the best driver to install (the default one?) for ATI Radeon HD 3000 on-board video?
[00:47] <darkhelmet46> grime, holy crap lots of stuff in there!  lol
[00:47] <Zeptis> I don't know what a developer would explain the function of that sort of program as, so I'm a bit stumped.
[00:47] <panorain> grime pc seems to have hung should I ctrl+alt+bkspc?
[00:48] <codephobic> I'm tempted to try out KDE on ubuntu, since I can't get compiz to do the funky box stuff in unity... but I need to fine-tune my graphics "card", before I do so, I suspect.
[00:48] <grime> darkhelmet46, look for it in there
[00:48] <th3sp00n> Can someone help me with my network configuration? I've got two networks, a 10.70.20.* and a 10.80.10.* that I'm trying to bridge for kvm, but whatever I do, I can't get the bridge to load the 10.80.10.* network http://pastebin.com/2gG7iwJY
[00:48] <grime> Zeptis, idk of any program that does that
[00:49] <grime> codephobic, haha if your comp can run it smoothly is funn
[00:49] <Zeptis> Whelp, time to dive into github, I geso. Thanks for using some of your processing time on it, grime.
[00:49] <grime> panorain, try rebooting and loggin in in unity 2D
[00:49] <bekks> th3sp00n: Which Ubuntu are you on?
[00:50] <zargonovski> hey greeting to all
[00:50] <zargonovski> we're doing a global jam here
[00:50] <panorain> grime ok
[00:50] <zargonovski> and we've an issue with the mail
[00:50] <th3sp00n> bekks: 12.10
[00:50] <grime> Zeptis, try third party programs or windows ones and run it trough wine
[00:51] <darkhelmet46> grime, maybe I should change my approach.  The app stopped working so I am trying to uninstall/re
[00:51] <bekks> th3sp00n: I've never seen interfaces named like that on a stock Ubuntu, I'm afraid.
[00:51] <darkhelmet46> oops
[00:51] <panorain> grime I am at the login window where can I select unity 2d?
[00:51] <darkhelmet46> uninstall/reinstall
[00:51] <th3sp00n> bekks: em1 is regular 1gb and the p1p1 is a 10GBE
[00:51] <grime> th3sp00n, have you checked the settings in network manager?
[00:51] <th3sp00n> grime: it's a headless server
[00:51] <Zeptis> Well, github seems to have something GPL to build, thankfully. Why didn't I just type 'keyfinder' in the first place.
[00:51] <grime> panorain, click the ubuntu logo and a list should pop up
[00:52] <panorain> grime ok
[00:52] <darkhelmet46> grime, but maybe it can be repaired instead?  it was working fine in Wubi, and then I migrated my Wubi install to a dedicated partition, and now it doesn't work.
[00:52] <codephobic> grime, I've been unlucky with video cards, because I always get on-board vga mobos and never want to buy graphics cards (I don't play games - got an xbox 360 gathering dust)... but back in ubuntu 10.04, I had compiz, cubes and everything. It's only since unity (I think) that I can't get that stuff to work any more
[00:52] <darkhelmet46> holy crap, grime is helping a lot of people
[00:52] <grime> darkhelmet46, try purging to remove the program
[00:52] <darkhelmet46> grime, i tried that too
[00:53] <darkhelmet46> grime, the app has a GUI, but it needs to be started from terminal.  It does output some error messages, but I'm not sure what they mean.
[00:53] <bekks> th3sp00n: Could you pastebin "uname -a" and "lsb_release -a" please? I am just curious, since I've never seen those interface on Linux.
[00:53] <grime> codephobic, install gnome-panel to run like 10.04
[00:54] <panorain> grime where is the ubuntu label located for unity 2d in 12.10?
[00:54] <grime> darkhelmet46, hmmm so you removed all the files?
[00:54] <taher> Hello
[00:54] <mapreduce> Hi.  I'm trying to connect to a fortinet VPN, which afaik is just IPSec-based, using ikea, and I'm getting timeouts while establishing the tunnel.  I know that from Windows I don't get timeouts.
[00:54] <th3sp00n> bekks: http://pastebin.com/zJ6rehB6
[00:54] <darkhelmet46> grime, ok check this out. i ran it from a Root prompt and it ran fine.  it only doesn't work when i run it as a normal user...
[00:55] <mapreduce> Is there anything I can do to have ikea match what fortinet's client assumes?
[00:55] <codephobic> grime, I was going to use KDE instead ... similar tricks in there too.
[00:55] <grime> panorain, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/03/gnome-classic-in-ubuntu-12-04-its-like-nothing-ever-changed
[00:55] <dr_willis_> panorain:  there is no unity-2d in 12.10+
[00:56] <grime> panorain, look at the end of that post
[00:56] <codephobic> just reading up on a solution for legacy video card update to catalyst. starts with downgrading X, before installing a patch .. don't like the sound of that, will try it in a VM first!
[00:56] <panorain> grime ok thank you
[00:56] <dr_willis_> gnome-classic is definatly not identical to the old gnome2.. but its close . ;)
[00:56] <grime> dr_willis_, thanks for the help
[00:57] <grime> codephobic, but it depends if your comp can run VM
[00:57] <grime> darkhelmet46, what program is it ,,,,if you dont mind me asking
[00:58] <grime> taher, whats up
[00:58] <darkhelmet46> grime, it is a program called MXIE, it's basically a VoIP/ Instant Messaging app that integrates with our phone system.
[00:59] <bravis> where is compiz
[00:59] <codephobic> grime, I'll try the VM method first, since it would keep most of the "user experience" that I've grown used to...
[00:59] <Neo31web> hello, please provide me with the UGJ channel or launchpad channel if there are any, thanks
[00:59] <taher> We are holding UGJ Tunisia, we are trying to configure our gpg keys but some are recieving "keyserver send failure : keyserver error" and some of as are not receiving their encrypted mails yet, what could be the problem ?
[00:59] <darkhelmet46> grime, so if I do just "mxie" from terminal, it doesn't work.  If I do "sudo mxie", it doesn't work.  But if I do "su" to get a root prompt, then do "mxie", it runs fine.  What could that mean?
[00:59] <dr_willis_> bravis:  what do you mean?   the 'whereis' command can show the path to a binary
[01:00] <codephobic> hmm, wow.... for some reason my 2.4GHz logitech keyboard's just become a lot slower ... not doing anything much, got plenty of RAM on the system (3GB spare) ...
[01:00] <grime> darkhelmet46, have you tried  sudo apt-get --purge -remove mxie?
[01:00] <dr_willis_> darkhelmet46:  check yout env settings..  i bet they are different
[01:01] <darkhelmet46> grime, i did "sudo apt-get -purge mxie", is that incorrect?
[01:01] <dr_willis_> darkhelmet46:  how did you enable su-ing to root? thats normally disabled by default
[01:01] <grime> darkhelmet46, it could be mxie or maybe uppercase
[01:01] <codephobic> what's a "good" load average (in Ubuntu 12.10)?
[01:01] <darkhelmet46> dr_willis_, you'll have to be a little more specific in your comment about env settings, I'm pretty noobish.  And to your second question, I dunno?  lol
[01:01] <panorain> grime should I update my system before installing unity 2d?
[01:02] <Lice> hrm
[01:02] <bekks> codephobic: Nowadays, the load average is pretty meaningless.
[01:02] <grime> codephobic, maybe 15g to run comfortably in a VM enviornment
[01:02] <dr_willis_> darkhelmet46:  look at your paths and other env settings see the 'set' command output.
[01:02] <codephobic> bekks, how so? I don't particularly understand it but it's a nice number and I'm guessing "the lower the better"?
[01:02] <grime> panorain, yeah sudo apt-get update
[01:02] <dr_willis_> darkhelmet46:  this is a normal desktop install?
[01:03] <panorain> grime ok
[01:03] <grime> panorain, were you able to log in?
[01:03] <iceroot> codephobic: if the load is not higher then your cpu cores, everything is fine
[01:03] <codephobic> grime, hmm that's a little more than I have to spare :(
[01:03] <bekks> codephobic: "the lower the better" - but I've seen systems with a load far beyond 300 to be responsive as just being idle.
[01:03] <iceroot> codephobic: a load of 2 on a 4 core system means the cpu is used by 50% and everything is fine
[01:03] <grime> codephobic, what about 10?
[01:03] <darkhelmet46> dr_willis_, it was a Wubi install which I migrated to a dedicated partition.
[01:04] <iceroot> codephobic: a load of 2 on a single core system is a high value, so the tasks have to wait because the cpu is on its limit
[01:04] <darkhelmet46> dr_willis_, to clarify, I don't just type "su" and hit Enter to get root, it does prompt me for my password first.
[01:04] <bcbc2> darkhelmet46: the migration didn't migrate ACLs (access control lists). The latest version does. This could be the difference.
[01:05] <dr_willis_> darkhelmet46:  you shouldent be able to 'su' to root...  unless you enabled the root account.  when you do a su, it runs the config files in the users home. ie: /root/ those can have different settings then what your user has when they sudo to root
[01:05] <codephobic> grime, I have 8GB in total, web and mysql VMs eating up 1.5GB, Ubuntu host talking another 2GB, Chrome, Firefox et al another 1.5GB ... not much more than 3GB to spare.
[01:05] <codephobic> ok, I have a load average of 1.08 across the 4 cores of my cpu.
[01:05] <bekks> codephobic: Whats the output of "free -m"?
[01:05] <bekks> codephobic: Could you pastebin it please.
[01:05] <iceroot> codephobic: firefox is not taking 1.5gb real ram
[01:05] <darkhelmet46> dr_willis_, I think what I did was "sudo passwd" and then it prompted me for a new root password, an that's how I enabled it.
[01:06] <iceroot> codephobic: http://www.linuxatemyram.com/
[01:06] <codephobic> 2999MB
[01:06] <bekks> codephobic: Thats not the output of free -m
[01:06] <codephobic> bekks, one moment didn't see the pastebin request.
[01:06] <grime> codephobic, i think 1.5 or 2 should be fine then.....i though you were asking on the hd not the ram
[01:07] <codephobic> bekks, http://pastebin.com/gfMh4PeW
[01:08] <iceroot> codephobic: you have 3gb free ram
[01:08] <codephobic> iceroot, I know.
[01:08] <bekks> codephobic: 3GB unused RAM :P
[01:08] <codephobic> bekks, lol
[01:08] <codephobic> I know
[01:08] <bekks> codephobic: Did you take a look at http://www.linuxatemyram.com/
[01:08] <dr_willis_> wasted ram! ;)
[01:08] <iceroot> codephobic: ok, just because you said firefox is taking 1.5gb
[01:09] <codephobic> iceroot, I was talking about chrome, firefox and a bunch of other apps (biggest being inkscape)
[01:09] <grime> panorain, install gnome-panel if you can not Unity 2D
[01:09] <darkhelmet46> dr_willis_, halfway tempted to add myself to the root group and call it a day.
[01:09] <codephobic> grime, lol
[01:10] <grime> codephobic, im glad i was able to help this far......i will be leaving soon good think there are others helping
[01:10] <iceroot> this is an example of wasted ram (but 8gb was so cheap) :) http://paste.ubuntu.com/5577997/
[01:10] <codephobic> grime, you had me nervous there. I've run ubuntu server in VM with only 512mb ram - for lamp stuff - but I did think Unity with all the frills would require a little more ~ 2-3GB.
[01:10] <grime> darkhelmet46, do it
[01:10] <codephobic> grime, you have a good evening, thanks for the help, the suggestions and the patience :)
[01:10] <Rukouen> hey guys, I'm thinking of setting up a vm for my personal web dev projects but I'm wondering if I should just have one vm in general or one vm per project to keep the environments separate?
[01:10] <darkhelmet46> grime, I thought that was ill-advised?  :)
[01:11] <panorain> grime ok
[01:11] <Ben64> darkhelmet46: most of the things you've been saying here are ill-advised
[01:11] <grime> darkhelmet46, add your username to sudoers file so you can run sudo instead of su
[01:11] <dr_willis_> wonky system becomes wonky+1
[01:11] <darkhelmet46> Ben64, I apologize for my ignorance.
[01:12] <codephobic> iceroot, how (why?) did that happen? why so much cache and swap?
[01:12] <urielsalis> How do i istall ubuntu from windows in a external hard drive?
[01:12] <grime> codephobic, no problem
[01:13] <dr_willis_> urielsalis:  you mean a wubi install to a external usb hd? or a full normal install?
[01:13] <urielsalis> a wubi install to a usb hd
[01:13] <histo> urielsalis: Do you know what wubi is?
[01:13] <codephobic> bekks, I read that site before ... when I first used "free -m" and panicked that all the RAM was being used...
[01:13] <darkhelmet46> grime, "sudo adduser username admin"  ?
[01:13] <urielsalis> yes the windows installer
[01:14] <histo> urielsalis: it installs ubuntu as an application inside of windows so to say. Is that what you want?  or do you want to boot off of your USB drive into ubuntu?
[01:14] <iceroot> codephobic: because its good when there is much cache used
[01:14] <iceroot> codephobic: and swap was the ubuntu default size
[01:14] <iceroot> codephobic: free ram is wasted ram
[01:14] <urielsalis> I want to boot ut to my disk drive with ubuntu but installing it from windows
[01:15] <codephobic> iceroot, I thought it was advised not to use too much swap?
[01:15] <iceroot> codephobic: so you want that the kernel is caching a lot
[01:15] <grime> darkhelmet46, no as root go to /etc and edit the file called sudoers then add yourself under root exactly like how root looks
[01:15] <iceroot> codephobic: doesnt matter if you have 2gb swap, 8gb swap or 100gb swap if you dont need the space
[01:15] <histo> !usb | urielsalis
[01:15] <codephobic> I know before the recommended practice was to have 150% the size of RAM as swap, but since the days of 4GB ...
[01:15] <dr_willis_> urielsalis:  wubi wont work that way.  why do you want it on usb?
[01:15] <iceroot> codephobic: the system is on a 60gb ssd and 8gb are swap which will normally never be used
[01:15] <histo> dr_willis_: He doesnt' want wubi
[01:16] <darkhelmet46> grime, and what does that do, give me elevated rights but not root rights?
[01:16] <histo> urielsalis: You dont' want wubi you want a to follow the directions from ubotto
[01:16] <urielsalis> Because i want to take ubuntu in my drive as a fully installation(and my disk is 320 gb of unused space)
[01:16] <codephobic> iceroot, I tend to run out of space, however big the drives I buy are.
[01:16] <dr_willis_> i dont think anyone ever wants wubi.. ;)
[01:16] <iceroot> codephobic: there is a 4TB storage on that system, just / is on the 60gb ssd
[01:16] <codephobic> I've got around 4TB of data, work, OS installations and stuff ...
[01:16] <histo> urielsalis: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows  <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
[01:16] <codephobic> hehe
[01:17] <codephobic> my W7/debian squeeze server is on a 60GB sammy SSD
[01:17] <iceroot> codephobic: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5578012/  + 500GP LUKS partition which is not mounted at the moment
[01:17] <urielsalis> I WANT A FULL ISNTALATTION NOT A LIVE USB
[01:17] <iceroot> urielsalis: then do a full installation
[01:17] <codephobic> this ubuntu is on a 128GB OCZ (cheapo) SSD
[01:17] <grime> darkhelmet46, it lets you use sudo so that you dont have to run everything as root
[01:17] <panorain> grime I am in Gnome Classic ahh
[01:17] <bekks> urielsalis: You have to create an installation medium before, then use it to install Ubumtu to your USB.
[01:17] <urielsalis> I can do ir from windows?
[01:17] <dr_willis_> urielsalis:  then you want to boot a usb/cd. or try doing it from vbox to the usb. (not advised)
[01:18] <urielsalis> because i have run out of dvd
[01:18] <grime> panorain, nice how do you like it?
[01:18] <histo> urielsalis: yes
[01:18] <panorain> grime looking much better
[01:18] <histo> urielsalis: YOu can read that webpage it walks you through creating a bootable usb from windows
[01:18] <darkhelmet46> grime, the ere is a sudoers.d folder and it is empty except for a readme file.  But I don't understand the readme... argh.
[01:18] <urielsalis> wubi install a livecd version or a full instalation
[01:18] <Tex_Nick> wubi = "want unother broken interface" (unother - SIC) @^@
[01:18] <urielsalis> ?
[01:18] <histo> urielsalis: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[01:19] <codephobic> iceroot, cool... according to nautilus I have 5.6GB of space left on one of my 1TB disks.
[01:19] <grime> darkhelmet46, not the sudoers.d its just called sudoers
[01:19] <bekks> urielsalis: Wubi is a windows application. It isnt a "full installation" as you think it might be.
[01:19] <codephobic> time to delete the porn :(
[01:19] <dr_willis_> urielsalis: wubi installs a wubi version...... its special full type install to a file on the windows drive
[01:19] <grime> panorain, so you should be at home then
[01:19] <darkhelmet46> codephobic, who saves porn anymore?  lol
[01:19] <panorain> grime XTerm is the terminal
[01:19] <urielsalis> So i can use the link that you give me to install a full version of ubuntu in my disk or only a live cd(MEH WANTS FULL)
[01:19] <histo> ffs stop confusing the kid
[01:20] <histo> urielsalis: YEs
[01:20] <codephobic> darkhelmet46, people who used to have lots of free disk space
[01:20] <grime> darkhelmet46, do you know how to use vi or nano?
[01:20] <codephobic> :(
[01:20] <urielsalis> . . .
[01:20] <histo> !usb | urielsalis to install to USB
[01:20] <panorain> grime sudo apt-get update sudo  ; apt-get upgrade then?
[01:20] <histo> urielsalis: to install a live cd onto usb http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[01:20] <selena2013> panorain you still dont install it ?
[01:20] <grime> panorain, no the terminal should be under accessories
[01:20] <urielsalis> I want a complete instalation in my external HDD i want to know how to do it in windows i dont want a live usb
[01:21] <dr_willis_> i thought he wants a 'full/normal' install to a usb.. but without useing a cd/live usb...
[01:21] <urielsalis> yes
[01:21] <bekks> urielsalis: You need a DVD media or a USB stick to install Ubuntu.
[01:21] <grime> panorain, sudo apt-get update i believe
[01:21] <urielsalis> can windows do it?
[01:21] <bekks> urielsalis: No.
[01:21] <dr_willis_> urielsalis:  if you do tricks with vbox it might be doable..
[01:21] <darkhelmet46> grime, the readme actually says "please note that using the visudo command is the recommended way to update sudoers content"  so I did visudo ? and it looks like I need to do visudo -f username ?
[01:21] <bekks> urielsalis: You can create an Ubuntu dvd/usb using Windows.
[01:22] <urielsalis> can you give me a link or tutorial on that
[01:22] <dr_willis_> easier to find a 2nd usb flash
[01:22] <urielsalis> I have run out of cd and dvds
[01:22] <bekks> urielsalis: Then you need a USB :)
[01:22] <grime> panorain, if your not part of sudoers your gonna have to add yourself unless your find on running root
[01:22] <urielsalis> I dont have another . . .
[01:22] <darkhelmet46> urielsalis, go to Staples.  :)
[01:22] <urielsalis> staples?
[01:23] <codephobic> btw, anyone running a headless Ubuntu Server host with VirtualBox (the current release)? Is it noticeably faster than doing so inside of XFCE or some other slim DE?
[01:23] <histo> urielsalis: Use usb please read the websites posted to you
[01:23] <dr_willis_> staples = an office supply store chain in america
[01:23] <darkhelmet46> urielsalis, Staples, the Office Superstore!  Sorry, guess you're not in the US.  :)
[01:23] <histo> codephobic: why would it be faster?
[01:23] <panorain> grime I dragged XTerm button to the top title bar in Gnome-Classic how do I remove the Xterm button I see terminal now in accesories. I jumped a bit
[01:23] <codephobic> darkhelmet46, Staples is here in the UK too (well, London).
[01:24] <urielsalis> How do i full install of ubuntu from virtual box using windows to my external disk drive(wubi detects it)
[01:24] <histo> urielsalis: what is your native language?
[01:24] <urielsalis> Spanish
[01:24] <dr_willis_> urielsalis:  install vbox. configure it to have access to the usb.. boot the iso.. do the install.. reboot  from usb.. hope it works
[01:24] <codephobic> histo, I meant the VMs within VirtualBox, because of more free RAM, less background processes etc.
[01:24] <histo> !es | urielsalis
[01:25] <histo> codephobic: is your system really under that much load currently?
[01:26] <histo> codephobic: it will help if your load is high now. Depends on what Desktop Environment you are currently running on how much overhead it's using.
[01:26] <darkhelmet46> wb grime.
[01:26] <panorain> grime!
[01:26] <grime> darkheltmet46, so did you try it? if not google how to add myself to sudoers file
[01:27] <grime> panorain, yo
[01:27] <histo> grime: visudo
[01:27] <codephobic> histo, I'm trying to plan out the optimal way to run Windows 7 in a VM. Currently, it's not too bad, I can use illustrator without any problems whatsoever, but if I play games, browse my network folders as well, I get some sluggishness.
[01:27] <grime> histo, can you help out darkhelmet46 with the sudo thin i gotta go thanks
[01:27] <histo> grime: or add your user to the sudo group
[01:27] <panorain> grime I by accident I dragged XTerm up to my title bar in Gnome-Classic how can I edit my top title bar in 12.10?
[01:28] <urielsalis> no support on ubuntu-es :(
[01:28] <codephobic> my "plan A" was to run VBox on debian squeeze and have win7 play my blu-ray discs.
[01:28] <histo> codephobic: Gaming in a VM doesn't work well due to virtualized video hardware. YOu can install guest additions and get some more performance
[01:28] <histo> urielsalis: Well you won't read what we are telling you here.
[01:28] <darkhelmet46> grime, i am Googline away and not getting very far.  Thanks for your help up to here.
[01:28] <urielsalis> I want to install it from vrtual box to my external hdd and i need a tutorial on that(for a full installation)
[01:29] <histo> codephobic: What's wrong with using linux with blu ray?
[01:29] <brightblack>  anyone know how I can prevent a fullscreen vbox guest from stealing system focus?
[01:29] <histo> urielsalis: that makes no sense
[01:29] <urielsalis> histo, I read that links that our give me but they were for live cd, not for full instalations
[01:29] <histo> brightblack: /j #vbox
[01:29] <brightblack> thanx
[01:29] <grime> panorain, windows button + alt + right click
[01:30] <codephobic> but 1) debian squeeze has an older release of VBox and it doesn't seem to work with my existing VDIs 2) the configuration of blu-rays to watch "natively" is laborious for something that I see as relaxation and 3) I might as well have a fast and responsive windows install lurking ready to use if the need should arise
[01:30] <grime> darkhelmet46, ask histo he knows
[01:30] <panorain> grime thanks I best document this
[01:30] <darkhelmet46> Sooooo... histo... help a brother out?  :D
[01:30] <codephobic> histo, I meant windows games - solitaire on W7 is pretty "graphical", apparently too much for the 128MB virtual gfx that VBox lets me setup.
[01:30] <histo> urielsalis: Do you have more than one thumb drive? Or do you have a machine with linux on it?
[01:31] <histo> codephobic: install guest additions
[01:31] <grime> darkhelmet46, http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=261679
[01:31] <histo> darkhelmet46: help with what?
[01:31] <goodtime> yes windows... the ultimit in reinstallments!
[01:31] <panorain> grime when I open a create new document the top of the window is covered by the title bar
[01:32] <codephobic> histo, is there a simple Blu-ray movie player in linux yet? I've seen scripts for streaming decrypted content through a port and then using VLC to playback from that port, but nothing that would be useful for a "Home Theatre PC"
[01:32] <codephobic> histo, I have, I use guest additions to get usb access and to get full screen full resolution rendering of the desktop
[01:32] <grime> panorain, grab the top of the window and pull it down that should work
[01:32] <darkhelmet46> grime, i don't think that's my issue.  I "CAN" user sudo to run things.
[01:32] <panorain> grime I cannot pull the window down
[01:33] <darkhelmet46> histo, here's the sitch.  So I have an app that won't run right when I run it as a normal user or as sudo.  if I run it as root, it works fine.
[01:33] <histo> darkhelmet46: is it a graphical app?
[01:33] <iceroot> darkhelmet46: for gui apps use gksudo
[01:33] <panorain> grime should I install nvidia drivers for my 6600 agp?
[01:33] <darkhelmet46> histo, yes but it needs to be laucnhed from terminal
[01:33] <darkhelmet46> ahhh, let me try
[01:33] <iceroot> darkhelmet46: gksudo command
[01:33] <histo> darkhelmet46: use gksu appname
[01:34] <histo> !bluray | codephobic
[01:34] <darkhelmet46> histo, yep gksudo works.  sweet!  now is there a way for me to run this thing without having to do gksudo?
[01:34] <panorain> grime all open boxes get stuck under the top title bar in Gnome-Classic
[01:35] <grime> panorain, i forgot how to minimize haha
[01:35] <histo> darkhelmet46: What is the application?
[01:35] <panorain> grime I am sudo apt-get update       sudo apt-get upgrade  now
[01:35] <grime> panorain, i gotta go tho ill be back in acouple of hours....ask around im sure theres other that can help
[01:35] <darkhelmet46> histo, I doubt you've heard of it.  It's called MXIE, made by a company called Zultys.  It integrates with their phone system.  It's a VoIP / Instant Messaging app.
[01:36] <panorain> grime all the windows stuck under top title bar  can't see the top of the windows
[01:36] <panorain> ok
[01:37] <panorain> anyone running gnome-classic in ubuntu 12.10?
[01:37] <histo> darkhelmet46: Why does it need root priveledges to run?  You should check with whoever made the applicaiton.
[01:38] <darkhelmet46> histo, the odd thing is, i didn't need gksudo to run it before when I was runnign it from a Wubi install.  This only started happening after I migrated the Wubi install to a dedicated partition.
[01:38] <korn788> hello i just wanted to install nmon on my server today and i get this message " user is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported."
[01:38] <histo> darkhelmet46: How did you install this applicaiton?
[01:38] <histo> korn788: did you mess up your password?
[01:39] <histo> korn788: and what is the output of groups
[01:39] <korn788> i haven't touched anything
[01:39] <korn788> whats the command for the output
[01:39] <darkhelmet46> histo, i had to download the tar.gz, then use alien to convert it to .deb, then I used dpkg.
[01:40] <histo> darkhelmet46: Did you download the source code? If so why did you use alien?
[01:40] <histo> korn788: open a terminal and type in groups   and then hit enter
[01:40] <darkhelmet46> histo, because thats' what the instructions said?  :D
[01:40] <histo> darkhelmet46: Was their an RPM?
[01:41] <korn788> m4l www-data
[01:41] <histo> korn788: yeah your user needs to be in several other groups
[01:41] <darkhelmet46> histo, negative, they only provide the tar.gz
[01:41] <abi_> anyone who can help me in django?
[01:41] <histo> korn788: is your username m4l?
[01:41] <korn788> yes
[01:41] <histo> korn788: your user needs to be added to the sudo group
[01:42] <histo> korn788: by an admin user or the user that installed ubuntu
[01:42] <korn788> how would i go about adding it without having to leave putty
[01:42] <darkhelmet46> histo, see http://richarddouglasdenton.wordpress.com/2011/02/16/installing-mxie-on-ubuntu-10-10/
[01:42] <slide> Is there a way to install ubuntu server onto a new drive in windows? or somehow put ubuntu server install onto that drive so it can install itself?
[01:42] <histo> korn788: you can't if you don't have sudo access
[01:42] <panorain> should I have installed 12.04 vs. 12.10  for LTS support?
[01:42] <korn788> i don't even have su
[01:42] <histo> darkhelmet46: give me a minute
[01:42] <korn788> but i can login from putty
[01:42] <histo> !find mxie
[01:43] <ntzrmtthihu777> slide: you need to either burn the server iso onto cd or usb, and then boot from thta
[01:43] <darkhelmet46> histo, if you want to download and look at the tar.gz you can get it from http://voip.waveiton.com
[01:43] <slide> ntzrmtthihu777, is there a way to put it on a usb drive alongside all my other files?
[01:43] <histo> darkhelmet46: Okay well on that page he downloaded an rpm not a tar.gz
[01:44] <ntzrmtthihu777> not that I am aware of; you could always just temporarily transfer said files to you hdd untill its done.
[01:44] <korn788> ive had issues with install Ubuntu server from usb i had to install it via CD
[01:44] <darkhelmet46> histo, holy crap you're right... shit it was like a month ago, sorry i guess my memory is bad.
[01:44] <ntzrmtthihu777> thing is the iso is so small just a normal cd will do, no need for a full dvd
[01:44] <histo> darkhelmet46: This is an issue with that package. You need to contact their support and see if maybe your user needs to be added to some group or something. That's why you need gksu now.
[01:45] <histo> korn788: What user did you use when you installed?
[01:45] <darkhelmet46> histo, ok thanks i'll do that.
[01:45] <histo> panorain: 12.04
[01:45] <korn788> m4l
[01:45] <korn788> thats the only user i made
[01:45] <Tex_Nick> i'm about to install a new hard drive ... after partition & format, i want to perform a thorough scan of the surface for defects ... would "badblocks -sv" be the most standard check ?
[01:45] <korn788> when i installed
[01:45] <codephobic> thanks all, have a good evening... time to go to sleep for me.
[01:45] <codephobic> cya
[01:45] <ntzrmtthihu777> ok, my question: I am currently using irssi within screen in gnome-terminal, I want to create a .desktop launcher that launches gnome-terminal and reattaches to this screen session, how would I go about this?
[01:45] <histo> korn788: and the only groups he's in is m4l and www-data?  You messed up when you added the user to the www-data group
[01:46] <histo> korn788: do you have physical access tot he computer?
[01:46] <bcbc2> darkhelmet46: if the application used ACLs (access control lists) then they wouldn't have been copied by the migration (it's been added in the last few days). That could explain why you're having permission problems. Reinstalling should resolve that.
[01:46] <korn788> yea it right next to me
[01:46] <panorain> histo why can I not drag the open windows anywhere in gnome-classic I enabled my top launcher bar to dissapear and can see the top of the window now
[01:46] <korn788> but im logged in from putty
[01:46] <histo> panorain: alt+F7 to move windows
[01:46] <korn788> only because i wanted to go headless
[01:47] <histo> korn788: Well you need a monitor now.
[01:47] <darkhelmet46> bcb2, HI! You were actually helping me with the migration a few days ago, I finally got it sorted!  Dunno if you remember.
[01:47] <korn788> but i can add a monitor and keyboard
[01:47] <histo> korn788: boot in single user mode and fix your gorups
[01:47] <bcbc2> darkhelmet46: yes I remember
[01:47] <darkhelmet46> anyway, bcbc2 I did uninstall/reinstall the app, but nada.
[01:47] <korn788> is there a link or guide to follow as i have only one monitor atm
[01:47] <panorain> histo when do I press alt+f7 when trying to move the window?
[01:48] <bcbc2> darkhelmet46: that's the only thing I can think of that would explain the difference.
[01:48] <histo> panorain: yes
[01:48] <panorain> histo rather where should I place my mouse cursor?
[01:48] <histo> panorain: it will hilight the window then try using the arrow keys to move it.
[01:48] <darkhelmet46> bcbc2, so check this out...  You recall I couldn't install Grub because of the LDM-Blocker, right?
[01:48] <histo> panorain: Is the issue that you never have title bars?
[01:48] <bcbc2> darkhelmet46: right.
[01:48] <korn788> while im not new to linux im new to linux servers and i still trying to learn command line
[01:48] <panorain> histo yes titlbars
[01:49] <panorain> histo titlebars-
[01:49] <darkhelmet46> bcbc2, and I downloaded Boot-Repair and it wanted to delete a hard drive sector to fix it, and I was scared to do that, member?
[01:49] <histo> korn788: yeah whenever you added your user to the www-data group for whatever reason you wiped out your other groups using the wrong command.
[01:49] <bcbc2> darkhelmet46: yip
[01:49] <histo> panorain: What version of ubuntu are you using?
[01:49] <panorain> histo Ubuntu 12.10
[01:49] <abi_> Need some help in python, any one interested?
[01:50] <histo> panorain: But you insalled something gnome-classic?
[01:50] <korn788> wow and i wanted to do was be able to write to /var/www
[01:50] <panorain> histo yes that is correct I installed gnome-classic via software manager
[01:50] <histo> korn788: yeah what command did you run to add your user tot he www-data group?
[01:50] <darkhelmet46> bcb2, ok so.... i finally backed up my laptop, it took a few days because it kept failing, then finally i ran boot-repair, let it delete the sector, and everything worked fine.  i was stil able to boot to Windows, and no data loss.  lol
[01:51] <histo> !not-unity | panorain
[01:51] <histo> !notunity | panorain
[01:51] <korn788> i don't remember i googled it and it was askubuntu.com post
[01:51] <histo> panorain: gnome-panel is what you wanted.
[01:51] <Sazpaimon> For some reason my EFI boot list only contains "Ubuntu"
[01:51] <Ben64> korn788: basically you need to add yourself to the "admin" group
[01:52] <histo> korn788: hit ctrl+r to do a reverse search and start typing group    it will show you the command in your history
[01:52] <Tex_Nick> abi_:  if you don't get help here, you might ask in #python :)
[01:52] <histo> Ben64: he fried all his othe groups
[01:52] <Ben64> there are no other groups in server version
[01:52] <panorain> histo I will revert to gnome-panel I am running updates to 12.10 right now in terminal
[01:52] <bcbc2> darkhelmet46: that's good to know. backing up is a pain, but it's more painful if you don't and then you need it.
[01:52] <histo> Ben64: didn't append the group to his user just assigned it to only the www-data group.
[01:52] <abi_> thank you Tex_Nick
[01:52] <Sazpaimon> I can load windows fine using grub2, but I cannot see any other entries in my EFI firmware's boot listing
[01:52] <Ben64> from my server, groups returns "ben64 admin"
[01:52] <histo> panorain: Yeah you basically don't have a window decorater running for whatever reason.
[01:52] <panorain> histo should I uninstall gnome-classic via software manager before I install gnome-panel?
[01:53] <histo> !uefi | Sazpaimon
[01:53] <Tex_Nick> abi_:  nphope that points you in a good direction :-)
[01:53] <darkhelmet46> bcbc2, yeah i know.  i just felt silly.  lol  but i guess better to be safe than sorry.
[01:53] <johnjohn101> is there a channel for the ubuntu touch development stuff?
[01:53] <histo> Ben64: that's not good
[01:53] <Ben64> histo: yes it is
[01:53] <histo> Ben64: If you want it that way I guess
[01:53] <Ben64> thats how server installs are
[01:53] <histo> Ben64: Yes he removed the other group and didn't append the new one is all.
[01:54] <histo> didn't remove it but removed his user fromt he group
[01:54] <korn788> sudo chown -R username /var/www/
[01:54] <bcbc2> darkhelmet46: it's not silly. I would still recommend it, even knowing that it worked for you. But maybe an entire disk image backup is overkill (I just backup data normally)
[01:54] <Sazpaimon> histo, yes I've read all over the wiki, it doesn't explain why I see "Windows Boot Manager" in my firmware's boot list but it doesn't show up when I boot
[01:54] <panorain> histo will installing nvidia geforce 6600 drivers assist gnome-classic?
[01:55] <histo> Sazpaimon: you need to install grubs efi stuff
[01:55] <panorain> histo are you firm on stating gnome-panel installation in 12.10 then?
[01:55] <darkhelmet46> bcb2, i'm a bare-metal restore backup kinda guy.  :D
[01:55] <Sazpaimon> histo, grub efi is installed
[01:55] <Sazpaimon> I just said I can load windows using grub2
[01:55] <histo> panorain: Either install gnome-panel or fix gnome-classic to launch a window decorator
[01:56] <histo> Sazpaimon: You just said there is no ubuntu option from your efi boot?
[01:56] <panorain> histo what is the best route for a noob?
[01:56] <Sazpaimon> nom I said " For some reason my EFI boot list only contains "Ubuntu""
[01:56] <histo> panorain: install gnome-panel
[01:56] <histo> Sazpaimon: ahh. Sorry mis understood. Is there a windows efi in your /boot partition?
[01:56] <panorain> histo ok
[01:56] <Sazpaimon> just the oposite, after installing ubuntu my windows boot manager entry dissapeared, and boot-repair didn't fix it
[01:57] <mordonez> Hi guys, is possible to share my wireless connection with another wireless card?
[01:57] <Sazpaimon> histo, yeah, my efi system partition is fine and dandy, it's just something in the firmware is messed up I think
[01:57] <histo> Sazpaimon: and are you sure windows was installed in efi mode?
[01:57] <Sazpaimon> yes, it is
[01:57] <Sazpaimon> I'm gonna try bccedit to see if I can delete and re-add the firmware entry
[01:58] <histo> Sazpaimon: okay then you need to figure out how to edit grubs efi thing to add windows. I'm not that familiar with it but understand some of it.  Some other EFI "expert" may need to help you.
[01:58] <panorain> histo I am uninstalling gnome-panel via software manager
[01:58] <Sazpaimon> histo, I already said "I can load windows fine using grub2"
[01:58] <histo> panorain: Why did you want ot install gnome-panel?
[01:58] <histo> wtf
[01:58] <panorain> histo how long will ubuntu 12.04 be supported for?
[01:59] <histo> Sazpaimon: You just said ubuntu is the only choice?
[01:59] <histo> !lts | panorain
[01:59] <panorain> histo I am running p4 2.8
[01:59] <Sazpaimon> histo, ubuntu is the only choice in my EFI's bootmenu
[01:59] <panorain> ok histo
[01:59] <panorain> histo thank you for your help please bear with me
[01:59] <histo> Sazpaimon: Than how are you loading windows?
[01:59] <Sazpaimon> I dont think you get how efi works, the efi bios has its own bootmenu stored in the firmware itself
[01:59] <darkhelmet46> so any Virtual Box gurus in here?
[02:00] <bcbc2> darkhelmet46: have you checked your log files to see if there's anything related to the permissions problem?
[02:00] <histo> Sazpaimon: I don't think you are explaining yourself properly
[02:00] <Sazpaimon> histo, I'm chainloading windows's efi file using grub, but I'd like to be able to boot windows without the help of grub
[02:00] <panorain> histo my pc is a bit slow I do not like unity taking up room on my monitor
[02:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> darkhelmet46: I am fair with it
[02:00] <darkhelmet46> bcb2 i don't know where to look :)
[02:00] <histo> Sazpaimon: Why?
[02:00] <darkhelmet46> ntzrmtthihu777, any idea how i can get a VM to automatically savestate or shutdown when I shutdown or logoff Ubuntu?
[02:00] <korn788> ok so im booted into recovery mode i selected root and now im root@M4L whats next
[02:00] <histo> panorain: Did you install proprietary video drivers?
[02:01] <Sazpaimon> histo, in case I break grub or something, I'd like to have the windows entry in the EFI firmware instead of just grub
[02:01] <Sazpaimon> I know multiple boot managers can coexist in the EFI firmware
[02:01] <histo> korn788: usermod -a -G admin m4l
[02:01] <ntzrmtthihu777> hmm, no, lol. maybe using the cli for vbox you can set a script to do it on shutdown
[02:01] <korn788> cool going to give that a try
[02:01] <panorain> histo I have not installed any proprietary video drivers for Nvidia as of yet please help
[02:01] <bcbc2> darkhelmet46: I'd start with: tail -f /var/log/syslog  (and maybe auth.log). Then run it and see what you get. I gotta run now. Good luck!
[02:02] <histo> panorain: Click on the gear by the clock and > settings > software sources > Hardware tab
[02:02] <darkhelmet46> thanks bcbc2
[02:03] <histo> panorain: on 12.10  On 12.04 you can go to settings > Additional hardware
[02:03] <mordonez> Hi guys, any of you know how to share wireless with 2 wifi cards
[02:03] <mordonez> ?
[02:03] <mordonez> any ideas?
[02:03] <Nite_shades> ubuntu server channel ????????????anyone
[02:03] <histo> !ics | mordonez
[02:03] <histo> Nite_shades: #ubuntu-server
[02:03] <korn788> admin does not exist
[02:04] <histo> korn788: sudo group
[02:04] <korn788> hold om
[02:04] <histo> korn788: usermod -a -G sudo m4l
[02:04] <korn788> on
[02:04] <panorain> histo what is settings under in gnome-classic?
[02:04] <Nite_shades> ok
[02:04] <histo> panorain: What version of ubuntu is this?
[02:04] <mordonez> I already have donde that but the wifi do not appear on the list of available networks
[02:04] <panorain> histo 12.10
[02:05] <histo> mordonez: Why would you want to do this by the way? Why not just have both machines connect to the wifi?
[02:05] <mordonez> I have completed all the steps and looks ok on my machine but I can see the new wireless network on my cellphone for example
[02:05] <histo> panorain: gnome-control-center
[02:05] <darkhelmet46> histo, i just reinstalled it using different instructions and now it works!  :D
[02:05] <mordonez> the wifi is on other floor
[02:05] <korn788> cannot lock /etc/passwd
[02:05] <panorain> histo load unity from login normally then?
[02:06] <histo> mordonez: So you're using the box a repeater or something?
[02:06] <mordonez> and just one machine can see it
[02:06] <mordonez> yes
[02:06] <mordonez> a very good powerfull card
[02:06] <mordonez> on my laptop
[02:06] <mordonez> connected via usb
[02:06] <mordonez> so I can see it
[02:06] <histo> panorain: What?  open a terminal and type in gnome-control-center then you can go to software sources > hardware
[02:06] <FloodBot1> mordonez: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:06] <mordonez> but now I want my laptop to serve wifi for my floor
[02:06] <histo> mordonez: Ahh.  So your phone can see the wifi but the other computer cant?
[02:06] <histo> mordonez: from this computer
[02:07] <korn788> it said cannot lock /etc/passwd try again later
[02:07] <Ben64> mordonez: you should get a wireless repeater for that
[02:07] <mordonez> No, My computer can see the wifi because has connected a powerfull card
[02:07] <mordonez> yeah I know but in the meantime is there a way to do it?
[02:07] <histo> mordonez: create an adhoc network with your other card.
[02:07] <gridwest_user> How do I use SoX to flip a wave 180 degrees out of phase
[02:07] <panorain> histo ok
[02:07] <mordonez> I mean
[02:07] <histo> mordonez: then treat it like a cable
[02:07] <Ben64> korn788: mount -o remount,rw /dev/null /
[02:08] <histo> korn788: yeah your mounted read only Ben64 command will fix it
[02:08] <ntzrmtthihu777> ok, my question: I am currently using irssi within screen in gnome-terminal, I want to create a .desktop launcher that launches gnome-terminal and reattaches to this screen session, how would I go about this?
[02:08] <mordonez> I already have created an ad hoc network and I am already self connected
[02:08] <mordonez> but is not serving as wifi for other devices
[02:08] <mordonez> like my cellphone for example
[02:08] <korn788> oh thats weird so do ben64 command then the other command
[02:09] <fwaokda> how can i avoid having to install virtual box guest additions after every update?
[02:09] <histo> ntzrmtthihu777: create a .desktop for gnome terminal and add the string gnome-terminal -e screen -Dr
[02:09] <histo> ntzrmtthihu777: I would gnome-terminal -e 'screen -Dr'
[02:09] <panorain> histo why is gnome classic showing in the ubuntu gear in login window still on 12.10?
[02:09] <mordonez> any ideas?
[02:10] <histo> panorain: huh? gnome-callsic doesn't change the login screen. On the login screen the gear is used to change your sesion that you are logging into.
[02:10] <cyclick> my cd drive is broke so I can't use a live CD to repartition, but I'm looking for a way to repartion my main partition on reboot before it gets mounted, is that possible?
[02:10] <histo> mordonez: Can the other devices see the ad-hoc network?
[02:10] <panorain> histo where is terminal in dash?
[02:10] <histo> cyclick: usb
[02:11] <histo> cyclick: or single user mode
[02:11] <mordonez> no, is not listed, is like it do not exist
[02:11] <panorain> histo this is too kde like
[02:11] <ntzrmtthihu777> oh derp, I gotta use quotes, thank you histo
[02:11] <histo> cyclick: and move stuff arounjd. I would create a thumb drive
[02:11] <histo> mordonez: How did you create the wifi network.
[02:12] <Tex_Nick> panorain:  in "dash home" type terminal or keyboard shortcut CTRL+ALT+T
[02:12] <mordonez> I add new wireless , then enter a name a password and done
[02:12] <histo> brb
[02:12] <cyclick> thanks histo I will try that signle user recovery mode as I don't think this old computer can boot off usb
[02:12] <panorain> histo thankyou
[02:12] <ntzrmtthihu777> omfg awesome.
[02:13] <ntzrmtthihu777> histo:  huge thanks on your part
[02:13] <burfl> anybody know off the top of their head whether an "AMD Fusion APU 350D" will support amd64?  otherwise I'll keep digging
[02:13] <burfl> I know this is not an AMD room.. I'm trying to choose my image to download
[02:14] <panorain> histo I entered gnome-control-center in terminal
[02:14] <mordonez> any ideas?
[02:14] <panorain> histo 4 gpg trust created
[02:14] <ntzrmtthihu777> well you could just test it, burfl
[02:14] <panorain> histo now Software sources has loaded ok
[02:14] <panorain> histo I miss dapper drake
[02:15] <burfl> ntzrmtthihu777 that would not cause any damage?
[02:15] <panorain> histo nvidia shows up in additional drivers
[02:15] <korn788> ITS FIXED thats histo and ben64
[02:15] <korn788> thanks
[02:16] <ntzrmtthihu777> burfl: you can just burn it to usb and run it live, no change to your system
[02:16] <panorain> histo additional drivers within software sources states  nvidia corportation nv43 geforce 6600  this device using alternate driver
[02:17] <panorain> histo should I tick the proprietary 173 nvidia box?
[02:17] <burfl> ntzrmtthihu777: right, but will running the wrong instruction set cause any damage to any of my hardware?  I've never tried before
[02:17] <ntzrmtthihu777> as long as you dont do anything freaky in the live mode you should be fine
[02:18] <one> How do I update grub to boot gentoo also
[02:18] <sl33p3r> Join #bitcoin
[02:19] <Ben64> sl33p3r: you need to use /join
[02:20] <sl33p3r> Yeah, thx
[02:20] <darkhelmet46> histo can i try bugging you again?  :D
[02:23] <panorain> ugh is 12.10 really for me I suppose it could be neat to get the latest and greatest I just don't need unity
[02:23] <ntzrmtthihu777> damn that's awesome, lol. whenever I ctrl-a d to detach from the session it closes the gnome-terminal
[02:23] <panorain> ugh
[02:24] <krux> you don't need to use unity
[02:24] <ntzrmtthihu777> panorain: try Pinguy OS, its an ubuntu remaster without untiy and a really nifty gnome-classic setup
[02:24] <Ben64> ntzrmtthihu777: and unsupported here
[02:24] <panorain> ntzmtthihu77 seriously?
[02:24] <panorain> I understand
[02:24] <Ben64> it's not hard to not use unity
[02:25] <panorain> Ben64 is wastes space I don't need it
[02:25] <ntzrmtthihu777> meh. I like it, and its pretty good out of box
[02:25] <Ben64> panorain: then get rid of it, its not difficult
[02:25] <ntzrmtthihu777> gnome shell is to be discontinued, no?
[02:26] <panorain> ntzrmtthihu777 what about nvidia drivers in pinguy os?
[02:26] <panorain> Ben64 I just might
[02:26] <Ben64> ntzrmtthihu777: no
[02:26] <naegling> I hate amazon ami
[02:26] <ntzrmtthihu777> should be the same setup as ububtu, pinguy os is just basically precise with stuff preinstalled and configured
[02:27] <one> how to hupdate it
[02:27] <panorain> ntzrmtthihu77 could you give me a link?
[02:27] <ntzrmtthihu777> sure
[02:28] <ntzrmtthihu777> http://pinguyos.com/download/
[02:28] <Tex_Nick> panorain:  i use 12.10 with gnome-classic de ... i did sudo apt-get install gnome-panel ... then on reboot @ login selected Gnome Classic ... has worked great since 3 days after 12.10 was released :)
[02:29] <Ben64> panorain: just keep in mind if you use that, you can't come here to get help
[02:29] <darkhelmet46> ok, so I have a program complaining that it can't access the audio device driver (Linux EsoundD Driver).  Any ideas?
[02:29] <panorain> ok hold on
[02:30] <panorain> please
[02:31] <ntzrmtthihu777> yeah, I would install gnome-fallback on any new precise install, and a host of other things, but pinguy is almost the exact setup I use
[02:31] <panorain> Tex_Nick I tried  sudo apt-get install gnome-panel
[02:31] <x2Fusion> hello.
[02:31] <fwaokda_> I'm trying to set up dual monitors but they're backwards ;/
[02:31] <x2Fusion> Seeing as #fedora is gay.. and can't help with me...
[02:31] <panorain> Tex_Nick reboot?
[02:31] <ntzrmtthihu777> then flip them lol
[02:31] <fwaokda_> how do i set which one is the main monitor with unity?
[02:31] <x2Fusion> with my situation of such,
[02:32] <Tex_Nick> panorain:  yes or maybe just logout and thenback in
[02:32] <Ben64> x2Fusion: we can't help you with fedora
[02:32] <margareta> Hi have a Dell Inspiron with a 3G dongle. It seems to work ok. I would like it to auto start when I turn my computer on as I have my Internet through this dongle.
[02:32] <darkhelmet46> fwaokda, System Settings > Displays?
[02:32] <x2Fusion> Can anybody help me, I'm currently running #fedora 18 ... and I'm attempting from fedora, copy an iso to a western digital external hdd; and then make it bootable.
[02:32] <Tex_Nick> at the lightdm login screen ... click on the ubuntu icon ... then select Gnome Classic
[02:32] <x2Fusion> I'm attempting to make a ubuntu livecd copied to my external hdd, bootable.
[02:33] <panorain> Tex_Nick I am now at login screen in 12.10
[02:33] <fwaokda_> darkhelmet46, ahh i see where the launcher option was... any idea why it would be limiting my resolution options on one of my screens?
[02:33] <ntzrmtthihu777> x2Fusion: should try burning it to usb and then installing to the hdd
[02:33] <Tex_Nick> ok click on the ubuntu icon
[02:33] <Tex_Nick> you should see Gnome Classic luisted ?
[02:33] <panorain> Tex_Nick I did i'm logging in now
[02:34] <darkhelmet46> fwaokda, just a guess, but I'd say either the driver or the device is limiting the resolution and only letting you use what it can support.
[02:34] <one> How do I update grub to boot other kernels manually installed for a dual boot system?
[02:34] <fwaokda_> darkhelmet46, k thanks... maybe i'll just go back to one monitor
[02:34] <ntzrmtthihu777> should be the same, no?
[02:34] <panorain> Tex_Nick no title bar on top desktop switchers work on bottom bar
[02:35] <ntzrmtthihu777> anyway to configure lightdm?
[02:35] <Tex_Nick> when you say "no title bar" you mean no top panel ?
[02:35] <panorain> Tex_Nick how can I change properties in the title bars on 12.10 running gnome classic?
[02:36] <one> Ubuntu
[02:36] <panorain> Tex_nick I made the top title bar dissapear cause of previous window problems with gnome-classic
[02:36] <panorain> Tex_Nick title bar need to change properties how?
[02:36] <Tex_Nick> if you can see the top panel ... use SUPER+ALT Right Click
[02:37] <panorain> Tex_Nick super meaning?
[02:37] <ntzrmtthihu777> super = windows key
[02:37] <Tex_Nick> panorain: SUPER is the "Windoze Key"
[02:38] <panorain> sweet
[02:38] <Viralfrost> how do i add a user to the sudoers list?
[02:38] <Tex_Nick> :-)
[02:38] <panorain> Son!
[02:38] <panorain> kickin
[02:38] <panorain> how long will 12.10 be supported?
[02:38] <jrib> Viralfrost: just add the user to the "sudo" group with: sudo adduser USER sudo
[02:38] <Tex_Nick> panorain:  18 monts
[02:38] <Tex_Nick> *months
[02:38] <panorain> Tex_Nick thanks
[02:39] <Tex_Nick> np :-) enjoy
[02:39] <panorain> totally
[02:39] <panorain> pretty cool
[02:40] <ntzrmtthihu777> I stick with .04 releases, 3 years support, 5 on server (12.04 is 5 years)
[02:40] <panorain> weather applet coming in hooo ya!
[02:40] <Viralfrost> one more question, how do i log out a user from the command line ... not the current user, but another user
[02:40] <darkhelmet46> ntzrmtthihu777, i thought the .04 was the "beta" and the ".10" was the final?
[02:41] <Tex_Nick> panorain:  if you want to use unity again for any reason ... at login just select unity
[02:41] <one> virtuose: is there nno grub update
[02:41] <ntzrmtthihu777> no, the .o represents the release month
[02:41] <panorain> Tex_Nick ok   how do I move buttons on the top title bar?
[02:41] <crazyhorse> ok.. are there any decent chat clients for ubuntu
[02:41] <dr_willis_> Viralfrost:  kill the processes they are running. sudo kill pid#
[02:41] <ntzrmtthihu777> right click and select move
[02:42] <panorain> xchat
[02:42] <crazyhorse> i'm really missing limechat on osx
[02:42] <thtanner> crazyhorse: well none will be specific to ubuntu anyways
[02:42] <delfick> hi there, I used gparted to make a copy of my linux partition onto my new ssd. Booting from it works fine and is amazing, but now when I shutdown I get a kernel panic. Does anyone know what I need to do for it to put a vmcore file in /var/crash so I can work out why it kernel panics?
[02:42] <thtanner> but XCast is natively installed
[02:42] <Tex_Nick> panorain:  SUPER+ALT right click on icons
[02:42] <Viralfrost> dr_willis_: ...theres gotta be something simpler than that
[02:42] <ntzrmtthihu777> I like irssi
[02:42] <Tex_Nick> panorain:  then select move
[02:42] <crazyhorse> really dislike xchat.... doesn't warn me when i'm pasting multiple rows, doesn't allow me to have a bookmarked list of channels without actually being logged into the channel, doesn't have an aggregate feed of all channel activity
[02:43] <dr_willis_> Viralfrost: why would there be? reboot.. thats simple...)
[02:43] <panorain> Tex_Nick how do I anchor the button after I move it or is it done now by user super alt+alt?
[02:43] <crazyhorse> having said that limechat is better than any other chat client iv'e used
[02:43] <zheng> what's the best candidate of x-chat?
[02:43] <dr_willis_> Viralfrost:  other users could be doung all sorts of things..
[02:43] <crazyhorse> ntzrmtthihu777: yeah i want a gui.. click click, connect to freenode, connect to channel
[02:44] <ntzrmtthihu777> lol, xchat is all I know besides irssi
[02:44] <Viralfrost> dr_willis_: exactly, i don't want to go through and find all the processes that are still running...i'll try rebooting though :P i guess thats the first thing i should've done lol
[02:44] <dr_willis_> crazyhorse: xchat or weechat work for mee
[02:44] <crazyhorse> ntzrmtthihu777: yeah i had good search.. there's some other one that requires you to run a server
[02:44] <panorain> Son!
[02:44] <crazyhorse> weechat: allows you to maintian a list of servers / channels?
[02:44] <Tex_Nick> panorain:  once you've moved it, it will be anchored ... a lot of that stuff has changed over the past few distros, from the way it used to work
[02:45] <crazyhorse> dr_willis: working is the minimum requirement :)
[02:45] <anunnaki> +irssi
[02:45] <bravis> Konversation works too
[02:45] <panorain> Tex_Nick I cannot change weather report quits
[02:45] <darkhelmet46> ok, so I have a program complaining that it can't access the audio device driver (Linux EsoundD Driver).  Any ideas?
[02:45] <dr_willis_> crazyhorse: i imagine weechat can do anything you would ever want
[02:45] <crazyhorse> do any of these ones have any of the features i just mentioned?
[02:45] <thtanner> + google
[02:45] <crazyhorse> ok.. downloading
[02:46] <Tex_Nick> you mean the weather indicator ?
[02:46] <panorain> Tex_Nick yes
[02:46] <dr_willis_> i rarely irc anywhere  else but this one channel.
[02:46] <crazyhorse> basically.. channel list / double click to connect / past warning / single aggregated feed from all chans window <- they are the stuff limechat offers that none of the other ones i found do
[02:46] <thtanner> is it sad i just wine mirc.exe
[02:46] <crazyhorse> haha
[02:47] <dr_willis_> tossed mirc when i found xchat for windows
[02:47] <Tex_Nick> panorain:  right click on the "weather indicator applet" and select preferences
[02:47] <crazyhorse> weechat doesn't run a gui
[02:47] <thtanner> dr_willis_ I wrote a bunch of mirc script that i didnt feel like redoing lol
[02:48] <panorain> Tex_Nick I did what you told me it       "weather Report" has quit unexpectedly
[02:48] <thtanner> lazyness factor: max
[02:48] <bravis> weechat and Irssi are good but if you dont wanna configure then Konversation is for us lazy
[02:48] <panorain> Tex_Nick then dissapears
[02:48] <ntzrmtthihu777> well I just made a launcher for irssi, and I have it in screen so you can sta connected to a certain server
[02:48] <panorain> disappears-
[02:48] <dr_willis_> i use weechat over ssh from my phone..
[02:50] <crazyhorse> konversation wants to install 141 packages and 79mb :/
[02:50] <dr_willis_> so?
[02:50] <panorain> son
[02:50] <Tex_Nick> panorain:  try SUPER+ALT right click on panel & Add to panel "Weather report" ?
[02:50] <panorain> forcast is for new york only bummer
[02:50] <dr_willis_> its a kde/qt app. ;-)
[02:50] <panorain> Tex_Nick yes I was able to add the applet weather report fine
[02:50] <ali> hey people
[02:51] <crazyhorse> dr_willis: so you wouldn't worry about.. just install it?
[02:51] <dr_willis_> crazyhorse: 79mb ? thats trivial...
[02:51] <bravis> i did you can always uninstall if you dont like it
[02:51] <Guest24289> Greetings peopl
[02:51] <crazyhorse> true, true
[02:52] <bravis> 79m is nothing to 500 gb
[02:52] <Tex_Nick> panorain:  ok once yot select preferences, click the locations tab at the top ... choose a location closest to you
[02:52] <Beginner> Greetings people, what is the smartest way to learn all of the linux comamnds?
[02:52] <dr_willis_> Beginner:  read books on bash.
[02:52] <ntzrmtthihu777> info coreutils is good
[02:53] <panorain> Tex_Nick I do       quits enexpectedly
[02:53] <darkhelmet46> any ideas on this one? http://pastebin.com/ws8YPyM2
[02:53] <panorain> Tek_Nick then I reload keeps dying
[02:53] <Beginner> I will read a book on bash.
[02:53] <panorain> Tex_Nick each time I try to change preferences it fails
[02:54] <ntzrmtthihu777> I got one... I think. pdf, but I lost alot of stuff with a disasterous instal
[02:54] <panorain> Tek_Nick I will bring it down for reboot   system monitors work fine
[02:54] <panorain> stuffs to buggy going back to 10.04
[02:54] <Tex_Nick> panorain:  hmmmm ... my first attempt there would be to do a system restart
[02:55] <panorain> not sure yet
[02:55] <Tex_Nick> panorain:  and/or update system
[02:55] <panorain> Tex_Nick I am selecting gnome-classic  no effects
[02:56] <panorain> Tex_Nick I just updated 15 minutes ago   via   terminal   sudo  apt-get update     then   sudo apt-get update
[02:57] <Tex_Nick> panorain:  hold on let me log out then back in ... brb couple minutes
[02:57] <panorain> Tex_Nick ok sorry to bug you
[02:59] <Dr_Willis> hmm.
[03:00] <panorain> Dr_Willis how can I install flash plugins on Ubuntu 12.10?
[03:01] <Dr_Willis> panorain:  thers some flash package in the repos that do it
[03:01] <panorain> son my system doesn't seem the same without weather applet
[03:01] <panorain> i'm bummed
[03:01] <Viralfrost> Dr_Willis_: Thanks, rebooting helped...kind of a 'duh' moment for me...
[03:02] <Tex_Nick> panorain:  ok i'm using just "Gnome Classic" NOT the "Gnome Classic - No Effects" don't really know what the differencer is ... you might try just "Gnome Classic"
[03:02] <Dr_Willis> panorain:  check the webupd8 and omgubuntu site for weather indicator applets thers some neat ones. not in the default trpos
[03:02] <Dr_Willis> repos
[03:03] <bravis> ok how do i invoke compiz in ubuntu??
[03:03] <panorain> Dr_Willis thank you
[03:03] <Dr_Willis> bravis:  run 'compiz
[03:03] <bravis> oh geez thats all
[03:04] <Dr_Willis> bravis:  unless you want to give more details as to the problem... ;)
[03:04] <panorain> Tex_Nick I may try installing gnome classic through software manager now since I installed nvidia prop driver?
[03:05] <bravis>  Error: Screen 0 on display ":0" already has a window manager; try using the --replace option to replace the current window manager.
[03:05] <crazyhorse> anyone else noticed google chrome seems to be incredibly slow under ubuntu?
[03:05] <Dr_Willis> bravis:  so try compiz --replace  ;)
[03:05] <Dr_Willis> crazyhorse:  not really
[03:05] <bravis> I always thought it was an overlay
[03:05] <slide> I'm having trouble with a usb boot drive. It boots, asks me to install ubuntu server 12.04, and i hit ok, but then it doesn't do anything, just goes to a black screen. this is the guide i followed http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[03:05] <Dr_Willis> compiz is a window manager
[03:05] <Tex_Nick> panorain:  ok, hey i just saw dr_willis was also helping you... dr_willis is 1000 times better than myself ... listen to him ... you'll be in good hands ;-)
[03:06] <Dr_Willis> except i may have to leave soon.. darn real jobs ;)
[03:06] <panorain> Tex_Nick I appreciate all your help
[03:06] <crazyhorse> Dr_Willis: compared to the mac windows versions my windows keep hanging, i have to wait 2 or 3 seconds to switch tabs.. and the debugger window is very choppy
[03:06] <panorain> Dr_Willis thank you also
[03:06] <Dr_Willis> crazyhorse:  none of those issues here
[03:07] <panorain> Tex_Nick how can I get into the repo's  in 12.10 running gnome-classic?
[03:07] <crazyhorse> :(
[03:07] <Dr_Willis> 'get into the repos' means what panorain
[03:08] <Tex_Nick> panorain:  ?
[03:08] <pgib> Hmm... Anyone know of software or an option to throttle CPU speed based on temperature? Basically, I need to throttle the CPU speed once the temperature is getting close to overheating (avoid it shutting down)
[03:08] <Viralfrost> I just changed the username and home directory of a user, do I have to update any config files or symlinks or anything like that? (not for anything added on to the original install, just from a fresh install)
[03:08] <panorain> Dr_Willis the repositories list does 12.04 have the same as synaptic package manager in 10.04?
[03:08] <Dr_Willis> panorain:  you can install synaptic if you want to use it on 12.10
[03:09] <Beginner> hey
[03:09] <Beginner> my penis is huge
[03:09] <Beginner>  
[03:09] <panorain> Dr_Willis I would like to install synaptic I am running the software updater right now but it seems so different.
[03:09] <Dr_Willis> panorain:  thats whats called 'progress' ;)
[03:10] <panorain> Dr_Willis pretty slick stuff you reccomend more the software centre now?
[03:10] <Dr_Willis> i tend to use the apt cli tools
[03:10] <bravis> well it did not like that..
[03:10] <Dr_Willis> i rarely touch the software center..
[03:10] <panorain> Dr_Willis I don't like all the point and click
[03:11] <Dr_Willis> become a console commando
[03:11] <Dr_Willis> ;)
[03:11] <panorain> Dr_Willis I will read more but Ubuntu is getting bloated worse than mint
[03:12] <Dr_Willis> bloat = a vague meaningless term.
[03:12] <panorain> Dr_Willis I am in the process of using GhostBSD as a dual boot
[03:12] <Dr_Willis> one mans bloat is anothers man must have weather-applet
[03:12] <panorain> Dr_Willis you make sense
[03:12] <Dr_Willis> My other pc is a raspberry-pi - ;)  it makes everything seem bloated.
[03:13] <panorain> Dr_Willis besides ppa keys what is the point of running 12.04 vs say 8.04?
[03:13] <Dr_Willis> security updates.. and newer packages
[03:13] <Viralfrost> who really cares about bloat..on today's computers you have more than enough space for anything you want, and as far as speed, it may slow down a bit, but its still hella faster than windows is
[03:13] <Dr_Willis> a 4 yr old os.. is ancient
[03:13] <panorain> i have a p4
[03:13] <panorain> not so fast
[03:14] <phezter> hello
[03:14] <panorain> yo
[03:14] <Dr_Willis> that p4 is more power then my pi has. ;)
[03:14] <ntzrmtthihu777> heh, lol
[03:14] <sebastiansam55> how to fix "bootmgr is missing" with super grub disk?
[03:14] <Dr_Willis> but its an arm cpu
[03:14] <Viralfrost> Dr_Willis: what do you use it for?
[03:14] <ntzrmtthihu777> later all
[03:14] <panorain> Dr_Willis what will happen with linux flash support?
[03:14] <Dr_Willis> Viralfrost:  znc server, xbmc box
[03:14] <sebastiansam55> internets is not working so well atm would greatly appreciate any help
[03:15] <panorain> i'll shut up I am a noob
[03:15] <Dr_Willis> panorain:  adobe has allreaddy dumpped it basically.
[03:16] <Viralfrost> luckily html5 comes to the rescue!
[03:16] <Dr_Willis> realplayer  ;)
[03:17] <panorain> Dr_willis you know of Pinguy OS?
[03:17] <panorain> yeah realplayer
[03:17] <panorain> mplayer was cool
[03:17] <Viralfrost> lol...sadly I've come across a couple of sites lately that still use it
[03:17] <Dr_Willis> panorain:  used it.. dident see much point in it.
[03:17] <panorain> vlc is great now
[03:17] <Viralfrost> realplayer i mean
[03:17] <Dr_Willis> thers some firefox extensions that play flash videos in vlc
[03:18] <panorain> Dr_Willis where should I be as far as a p4 2.8ghz 2 gig ddr1  now   use 12.10?
[03:18] <panorain> Dr_willis or read more?
[03:18] <Dr_Willis> panorain:  be? what do you mean.
[03:18] <Dr_Willis> !manual
[03:19] <histo> panorain: It's more about your video card for performance with unity using 3d effects for everyhing. Did you install your drivers/
[03:19] <panorain> Dr_willis I just get eery about all the virus and so many password point and click in 12.10 is becoming similar to windows xp with all the easy .deb file to grab for software
[03:19] <Dr_Willis> panorain:  err.. totally different i how they work..
[03:19] <InFlames> is there a way in terminal to TRULY clear the screen? what i mean is, i want to scroll up and NOT see my previous text
[03:20] <Dr_Willis> omg.. it has icons just like iwndows 3.1!  ;0
[03:20] <panorain> Dr_willis are you familiar with any spyware as of now for Ubuntu?
[03:20] <histo> panorain: Just install packages from the repo. Don't use third party software
[03:20] <Dr_Willis> panorain: Ive not heard of any big security issues with it lately
[03:21] <Dr_Willis> last big security thing was java a few weeks back..
[03:21] <thtanner> There was a zero day kernel exploit
[03:21] <panorain> Dr_Willis packages from the repo please help me hook up synaptic interface with gnome-classic
[03:21] <Dr_Willis> i dont pay attention to the security sites however
[03:21] <thtanner> that affected a large nuber of of machines
[03:21] <thtanner> less than a week ago?
[03:21] <histo> InFlames: reset
[03:21] <thtanner> but its nothing like Windows malware, to answer your question panorain
[03:21] <Dr_Willis> panorain:  hook up? you install synaptic and run it.. nothing to 'hook up''
[03:21] <panorain> i need synaptic package manager in 12.10
[03:22] <Dr_Willis> panorain:  so install it?
[03:22] <InFlames> awesome, thank you histo, not sure how i never knew that...
[03:22] <Dr_Willis> !info synaptic
[03:22] <panorain> Dr_willis yes I would like to install synaptic package manager in 12.10
[03:22] <histo> InFlames: I didn't know it duckduckgo lead the way.
[03:22] <histo> InFlames: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/26975/how-to-clear-terminal-completely
[03:22] <Dr_Willis> panorain:  so install it....
[03:23] <panorain> Son!
[03:23] <panorain> Dr_willis ok
[03:23] <InFlames> duckduckgo is just the best :]
[03:24] <InFlames> i should have looked longer i guess
[03:24] <panorain> ixquick rules
[03:25] <panorain> Son!
[03:25] <panorain> I might stick with 12.10 for a bit
[03:25] <Dr_Willis> 13.04 due out  soon. ;)
[03:26] <panorain> i'll be back in a bit i'm a noob like it matters blah
[03:26] <histo> panorain: Did you get your drivers installed?
[03:26] <matlle> hi
[03:26] <matlle> hello?
[03:26] <thtanner> we didnt respond in under 30 seconds
[03:27] <thtanner> lol
[03:27] <Dr_Willis> jello!
[03:27] <matlle> how r u
[03:29] <moes> I did a full install of 12.04 to a usb flash drive..I now want to use the pen drive to install to my hdd...no install button..What can I use
[03:29] <Dr_Willis> a full install cand install to another pc.. a live usb could..
[03:29] <Dr_Willis> set up the ubuntu iso on the pendrive. and set grub2 to boot ths iso file..
[03:29] <Dr_Willis> would be one way
[03:30] <Dr_Willis> 'debootstrap' install method may also work.. but easier to boot the iso
[03:30] <moes> dr wilis..thanks will do the iso
[03:31] <Dr_Willis> i got my desktops pcs set up befor to boot iso files as a easy recovery/fallback/testing feature
[03:32] <panorain> histo Yes
[03:32] <Dr_Willis> bbl
[03:32] <panorain> histo I am working on trying to install synaptic packe manager
[03:32] <histo> panorain: Why?
[03:33] <krux> what for..
[03:33] <histo> panorain: software-center should be in default installation
[03:34] <panorain> histo I do not trust software manager completly yet  histo I am working now on installing flash plugin into firefox webbrowser on 12.10
[03:35] <matlle> flash java don't trust
[03:35] <panorain> histo how do I know all the programs don't observe my pc data
[03:35] <panorain> matlle do you use gnu flash?
[03:36] <matlle> yes
[03:36] <panorain> histo do you use gnu flash also?
[03:37] <histo> panorain: I use chrome
[03:37] <histo> so yes
[03:38] <histo> not gnu flash no
[03:38] <histo> adobe flash
[03:38] <histo> Sorry wasn't paying attention to the details
[03:38] <Tex_Nick> panorain:  if you just prefer to use synaptic ... now that you are using gnome classic ... from the applications menu on the top panel ... install it from the "Ubuntu Software Center" at the bottom of the ment ... synaptic ... not many people here use it anymore though ... i still use it at times
[03:38] <panorain> histo no worry thank you for all your help
[03:38] <capnflint> How can I prevent unity from capturing alt to show the menu bar?  I can't find it in the keyboard shortcuts.
[03:39] <Viralfrost> is there a way in gnome classic to make the toolbars act like they do in gnome 2?
[03:39] <panorain> Tex_Nick thank you also
[03:40] <histo> Viralfrost: How are they behaving now?
[03:40] <Viralfrost> well you can't add anything to the panel
[03:40] <Tex_Nick> panorain:  you're welcome :)
[03:41] <panorain> histo would you be interested in helping me change appearances in gnome classic I do not like the window buttons in 12.10 standard settings
[03:42] <panorain> I miss Crux
[03:43] <nn0101> wazzzup!
[03:43] <panorain> Son !  hi
[03:44] <ghostx562> hey guys
[03:44] <panorain> hi
[03:44] <Tex_Nick> panorain:  have you looked into a new theme ... i'm currently using a mac look-alike ?
[03:44] <panorain> Tex_Nick I would love to look into a new theme on this desktop
[03:45] <ghostx562> what is the channel name for ubuntu help?
[03:46] <slide> this is it
[03:46] <Aegela> #ubuntu
[03:46] <ghostx562> awesome.
[03:46] <panorain> Tex_Nick do I need to install a new theme for 12.10 or can I just change appearances? this is so different from 10.04
[03:47] <ghostx562> I have a question, im trying to install ubuntu 12.10 but when i get to a menu, it says something about a ata4 error, then it just keeps loading a black and purple screen. help?
[03:47] <Tex_Nick> panorain:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=203093 ... i'm looking for a few other links now
[03:49] <ghostx562> i am reloading it to a usb again using Universal usb installer.
[03:49] <Tex_Nick> panorain:  http://www.technama.com/2009/ubuntu-themes-61-awesome-themes-for-linux/
[03:51] <panorain> Tex_Nick thank you for the links time for me to read a bit eh
[03:51] <ghostx562> finished installing to usb, no errors.
[03:52] <panorain> ghostx562 what is universal usb installer what distro are you using?
[03:52] <ghostx562> using ubuntu 12.10
[03:52] <ghostx562> and universal usb installer is from ubuntu site, to load os to usb for install
[03:53] <panorain> thanks ghostx562
[03:53] <panorain> son these themes kick
[03:53] <Tex_Nick> panorain:  basicly what you would do is create a new directory in your home directory named .themes ... then untar/unzip your new theme into that directory ... that will keep your themes seperate from the standard themes
[03:54] <ghostx562> i keep getting a purple screen that flashes then goes away, then a drum sound over and over,
[03:54] <panorain> Tex_Nick on it right now
[03:55] <jxcl> hey guys I found a bug but I'm not sure where to report it. It has to do with the login window after coming out of a locked screen (not the user select menu)
[03:55] <panorain> Tex_Nick what do I use to load my new theme?
[03:55] <dn4> what do I use to check a wireless certificate in ubuntu
[03:55] <panorain> dn4 ifconfig -a
[03:55] <Tex_Nick> panorain:  then from "system Settings/appearance" choose your new theme ...ununtu has a few already installed, but they are kinda funky ;-)
[03:58] <ghostx562> i get to a screen that says ata4.00  {error} ABR
[03:58] <dmorrison> Having trouble printing with my hp officejet5600 all-in-one
[03:58] <ghostx562> abrt
[03:58] <panorain> Tex_Nick do I need to make the folder hidden instance = .themes in home folder will 12.10 pick it up automatically?
[03:58] <panorain> dmorrison go to synaptic  download hplip also hplip-gui
[03:59] <dmorrison> I did download...
[03:59] <panorain> dmorrison what distro you using?
[03:59] <dmorrison> I hear the printer wanting to print but doesn't
[03:59] <dmorrison> 12.10
[03:59] <ghostx562> im going to download the os again.
[04:00] <dmorrison> seems to be installed correctly
[04:00] <Tex_Nick> panorain:  not sure if you need to make it hidden ... i did ... but yes ubuntu will pick it automaticaly ... by creating that new directory ... your custom themes will be segregated from ubuntu standard themes
[04:00] <panorain> dmorrison I am not familiar alot with 12.10 just installed it today
[04:00] <panorain> Tex_Nick thank you
[04:00] <Tex_Nick> panorain:  np :)
[04:01] <dmorrison> just weird it doesn't finish printing
[04:02] <dmorrison> I'll keep reading
[04:02] <panorain> dmorrison I have an all in one hp 6110 office jet problem with text is cannot print 100% of the page I reduced the print size to 76% then prints clearly but smaller I believe at this point I have a hardware issue
[04:02] <ghostx562> is it easy to install ubuntu via wubi?
[04:02] <ghostx562> or just load os to usb then install?
[04:03] <Ben64> ghostx562: wubi isn't a "real" install
[04:03] <dmorrison> I could try that..
[04:03] <dmorrison> Thanks for your time!
[04:04] <ghostx562> ok, im re-download 12.10
[04:04] <histo> !paste
[04:04] <panorain> dmorrison no problem I am a noob
[04:04] <ghostx562> and im going to try again to install from usb
[04:04] <dmorrison> me too
[04:04] <panorain> i need to shut up and read blah
[04:04] <ghostx562> lol :D
[04:05] <agent> I wanted to know if there was anything I could do to return my ubuntu to its original state before a fresh install. Or is a fresh install my best option?
[04:05] <agent> oOOOOo 12.10! is 12'10 stable yet?
[04:06] <ghostx562> i guess.
[04:06] <phunyguy> so I found a bug in 12.04 and I thought it was a kernel issue, but now, 12.04 uses the 3.5 kernel, which didnt have the issue in 12.10
[04:06] <agent> I'm still quite new and get stuck sometimes, resorting here for answers.
[04:07] <phunyguy> when I unplug my laptop I get full 2.6GHz CPU speed if needed, but when I plug it in, I get 1200MHz (tested using Handbrake to encode video)
[04:07] <phunyguy> I unplug power and get 120FPS encoding, plug it back in and get 20.
[04:08] <histo> http://imagebin.org/248633
[04:08] <agent> I wanted to remove the stuff I preformed while trying to correct a wireless issue. Being new, I don't know if that would be a simple solution
[04:08] <histo> phunyguy: cpu throttling
[04:08] <histo> phunyguy: for power savings
[04:08] <phunyguy> histo, yes but it's backwards
[04:08] <phunyguy> when I unplug, I get NO throttling
[04:08] <phunyguy> when I plug it it completely throttles.
[04:08] <phunyguy> plug in*
[04:09] <phunyguy> in 12.10, I would get more even behavior.
[04:09] <panorain> Tex_Nick where are the factory installed ubuntu themes kept?
[04:10] <ghostx562> re trying this again,
[04:10] <phunyguy> histo, I installed the indicator-cpufreq applet, and tried to hard-set 2.6GHz, and it didn't set it.
[04:10] <phunyguy> (normally worked in 12.10 as well)
[04:11] <daniel329> new guy question: ive taken java and visual basic classes, and ive taken the OpenCourseWare classes online at MIT's website, and done other research in general for programing. however, i still dont feel like i can code or create anything that isnt guided by instructions. where is a good place for learning material to learn how to ACTUALLY code, or what opensource projects could i try working on?
[04:11] <Sazpaimon> How can I re-add Windows Boot Manager to my EFI's boot menu (NOT grub's menu) after insalling ubuntu?
[04:11] <Sazpaimon> I installed ubuntu in efi mode, and my Windows Boot Manager entry dissapeared from the OS selection menu
[04:12] <histo> phunyguy: What are you running?
[04:12] <histo> !raring | phunyguy
[04:12] <phunyguy> histo, 12.04
[04:12] <johnjohn101> why did m$ have to mess up the entire infrastructure for dual boot
[04:12] <echinos> what happens after Z?
[04:12] <phunyguy> histo, not raring
[04:13] <echinos> back to A?
[04:13] <histo> phunyguy: let me hunt arround for the setting now.
[04:14] <Viralfrost> johnjohn101: to make the installation process as easy as possible?
[04:14] <Tex_Nick> panorain:  sorry had to go get bevarage ;-) standard themes are in usr/share/themes
[04:14] <panorain> Tex_Nick np  should I unzip my hardy origional theme before moving it to /usr/shar/themes or leave it zipped?
[04:15] <phunyguy> histo this has been an issue for me since the summer, when I first ran 12.04 on this laptop. I ran the beta of 12.10 for a while, but I really like 12.04
[04:15] <panorain> Tex_Nick I need a beverage as well
[04:15] <panorain> Tex_Nick ponder it no rush
[04:15] <panorain> thanks
[04:15] <histo> phunyguy: so frequency doesn't increase under load?
[04:16] <Tex_Nick> panorain: are your themes in harduy zipped ?
[04:16] <Tex_Nick> *hardy
[04:16] <phunyguy> histo, while plugged in, no.
[04:16] <phunyguy> it is hard-set at 1200MHz when plugged in
[04:16] <ghostx562> .
[04:16] <phunyguy> I can understand saving power when unplugged, but when plugged in??   xD
[04:16] <panorain> Tex_Nick I download the http://mariuxv.deviantart.com/art/Hardy-Theme-75628261 in .gz format to my desktop
[04:18] <histo> phunyguy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=248867
[04:18] <Tex_Nick> panorain:  ah ok ... yes ... the themes need to be uncompressed before they will be recognized ... at least that's the way i always see them
[04:18] <histo> phunyguy: You can ignore the 1st step as you are now using kernel based scaling
[04:19] <phunyguy> histo, 2006?  Really?
[04:19] <phunyguy> the kernel isnt the issue
[04:19] <ghostx562> if it works why not?
[04:19] <phunyguy> this works in 12.10.
[04:19] <Tex_Nick> panorain:  but the contents of each theme will need to reside in it's own directory ... & i believe the directory name will be used for the theme name
[04:20] <phunyguy> has worked in 12.10 since the kernel there was 3.5.0_17
[04:20] <phunyguy> the kernel in 12.04 is 3.5.0_23 currently
[04:20] <histo> phunyguy: cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_cur_freq  should be ondemand
[04:20] <phunyguy> sorr 0_25
[04:20] <servvs> so is this the largest channel on freenode?
[04:21] <phunyguy> oops
[04:21] <phunyguy> histo, it says: 1200000
[04:21] <histo> phunyguy: you could sudo echo performance > cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor
[04:21] <histo> phunyguy: yeah for current freq
[04:21] <phunyguy> histo, you would think the applet does that
[04:22] <histo> phunyguy: it's supposed to . Set it to performanc and check the sys/devices/..... and see
[04:22] <phunyguy> !info indicator-cpufreq
[04:23] <histo> phunyguy: might have found a bug if it's not working properly. Encoding a video should hammer the cpu and force it to max frequency
[04:23] <phunyguy> histo, yeah its still at 1200000
[04:23] <phunyguy> especially plugged in
[04:24] <panorain> Tex_Nick should I copy the theme of my choice whitch is currently in .gz format to the folder I created in my home directory how will  applications>system tools>system settings>appearance>theme pick it up ?
[04:24] <phunyguy> and when I unplug it, the throttle goes away and I drop to about 45 minutes battery remaining
[04:24] <phunyguy> with CPU pegged, and 120FPS encoding
[04:25] <dn4> how do I mount my cdrom it isn't showing up
[04:26] <histo> phunyguy: okay echo the parameter to performance
[04:26] <histo> phunyguy: then check frequency
[04:26] <panorain> Tex_Nick I unzipped to the theme name which is labeled as Hardy_Mariux 2.0 residing in /paul/home/Themes
[04:27] <phunyguy> histo, no change
[04:27] <histo> phunyguy: What are you doing to set it?
[04:27] <Tex_Nick> panorain:  you'll need to extract the .gf ... right now i have a theme on my desktop i haven't installed yet ... i double click on it ... extract the folder within ... & move it to ~.themes
[04:28] <phunyguy> histo, that cat command you posted to change to performance
[04:28] <phunyguy> histo: sudo echo performance > cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor
[04:29] <histo> phunyguy: cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor      What's the output?
[04:29] <Tex_Nick> panorain:  ok see if that new theme is in "system settings/appearance"
[04:29] <phunyguy> histo: "userspace"
[04:29] <ghostx562> well i quit
[04:29] <panorain> Tex_Nick where is your ~.themes located under /usr/etc?
[04:29] <histo> phunyguy: lol ohh.
[04:29]  * phunyguy facepalms
[04:30] <histo> phunyguy: my command is wrong hold on
[04:30] <phunyguy> I really like 12.04... :(
[04:30] <Dr_Willis> panorain:  it would be .themes in your users home directory
[04:30] <phunyguy> I just wish it would worl
[04:30] <phunyguy> work*
[04:30] <Tex_Nick> panorain: oh sorry no ... it's in my home directory .themes
[04:30] <panorain> Tex_Nick I have the same directory .themes  do I need to change permissions?
[04:30] <Guest32182> hi
[04:31] <Dr_Willis>  i just get my themes from the webupd8 theme ppa
[04:32] <histo> phunyguy: echo performance | sudo tee /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor
[04:32] <Tex_Nick> panorain:  i don't think so ... let me look
[04:32] <panorain> Tex_Nick ok thank you
[04:33] <panorain> Dr_Willis checking I really want this hardy theme labeled Hardy_Theme_MariuxV.gz installed on 12.10
[04:33] <phunyguy> histo: now it says "performance" in that file, but the cur_freq is still 1200000
[04:33] <phunyguy> and encoding is still slow
[04:33] <phunyguy> *sigh*
[04:34] <ghostx562> ubuntu 12.04.2 is working right?
[04:34] <histo> phunyguy: how many cpus do you have?
[04:34] <histo> phunyguy: ex: cpu0 cpu1 etc...
[04:34] <phunyguy> histo, it's an i5, dual core with hyperthreading
[04:34] <phunyguy> so 4 cores as far as the kernel is concerned
[04:34] <phunyguy> BUT
[04:34] <phunyguy> cpu0 is still 1200000
[04:35] <histo> that's wierd
[04:35] <panorain> Tex_Nick I believe I may be dealing with emarland window manager at this point
[04:35] <phunyguy> histo, yes and it works perfect in 12.10
[04:35] <phunyguy> ghostx562: it works much better if you mention who you are talking to, so it doesn't confuse people.
[04:37] <Dr_Willis> panorain:  do you even know if thats a gtk2 or 3 theme or what it is exactly?
[04:37] <Tex_Nick> panorain: i really don't know about that ... hey if dr_willis is back for a bit ... he could probably help you in oneline ;-)
[04:38] <Dr_Willis> theres a grrat many old theme 'parts' put there that dont work with the newer stuff.
[04:38] <histo> !who | ghostx562
[04:38] <histo> ghostx562: it works fine. if you are asking the channel
[04:38] <Dr_Willis> panorain:  if you want the best looking themes, theres ppas with the best oues out that sould work with little hassle.
[04:39] <panorain> Tex_Nick thank you for your help
[04:39] <Dr_Willis> thesrs also some themes in the default repos you may want to try
[04:39] <histo> phunyguy: you installed that cpufreq applet package right?
[04:39] <panorain> Dr_Willis please hook me up with the ppa line up of themes for Ubuntu 12.10 thank you
[04:39] <phunyguy> histo, yes
[04:40] <Tex_Nick> panorain:  np ... when the doctor is helping ... i step aside ;-)
[04:40] <histo> phunyguy: can you see if making changes there to atleast the running governor changes the /sys files?
[04:40] <panorain> Dr_Willis where are the extra themes in the default repos located what is the package name?
[04:40] <panorain> Son!
[04:40] <Dr_Willis> panorain:  ive mentioned 'webupd8' several times now.. omgubuntu may have some also
[04:40] <panorain> Dr_Willis thank you
[04:40] <phunyguy> histo: the same files we did before?
[04:40] <Dr_Willis> panorain:  search for themes. in the package manager. im not on a ubuntu box so cant look
[04:41] <ghostx562> just wondering, i couldn't get 12.10 to install.
[04:41] <ghostx562> going to do, 12.04 then try and upgrade
[04:42] <histo> phunyguy: just cat them to see their contents
[04:42] <phunyguy> histo, it didn't change them
[04:42] <panorain> Tex_Nick how do I find which gtk version is running on my machine?
[04:43] <histo> !bug | phunyguy
[04:43] <phunyguy> it seems the "userspace" portion is broken
[04:43] <phunyguy> histo: what package would that be related to? it does it regardless of that applet
[04:43] <histo> phunyguy: yeah please filea  bug and post cat /proc/cpuinfo   also
[04:43] <histo> phunyguy: kernel
[04:43] <phunyguy> histo I wish it was kernel related
[04:43] <histo> phunyguy: and probably something with your hardware
[04:43] <phunyguy> it is not.
[04:43] <phunyguy> I said that, right?
[04:44] <phunyguy> 12.10 is on 3.5 kernel
[04:44] <histo> phunyguy: it is kernel related.
[04:44] <phunyguy> 12.04 is now on 3.5 kernel.
[04:44] <phunyguy> same kernel branch.
[04:44] <histo> phunyguy: depends how you installed 12.04
[04:44] <phunyguy> histo, 12.04.2
[04:44] <histo> phunyguy: uname -a
[04:44] <phunyguy> it is 3.5 kernel.
[04:44] <Dr_Willis> m.webupd8.org/search/label/eyecandy     for all my themeing and eyecandy needs. ;)
[04:44] <histo> phunyguy: If you installed 12.04.1 and upgraded to 12.04.2 you do not have 3.5
[04:44] <phunyguy> histo 3.5.0-25-generic
[04:45] <phunyguy> I already said this
[04:45] <moog1> i have a bug with sakis3g..... somebody can help me ?
[04:45] <phunyguy> it's not kernel related.
[04:45] <panorain> Dr_Willis I just loaded up webupd8 remember I am using gnome classic
[04:45] <phunyguy> unless they compiled the 2.5 kernel for 12.04 missing something
[04:45] <Dr_Willis> panorain:  you are on your own then. i dont see much point in using gnome classic
[04:46] <histo> phunyguy: so it works in quantal with the 3.5 kernel?
[04:46] <phunyguy> histo, yes
[04:46] <histo> phunyguy: you tested the ondemand scaling?
[04:46] <phunyguy> has since 3.5.0_17
[04:46] <histo> phunyguy: and cat'd the /sys....
[04:46] <phunyguy> histo, yes
[04:46] <histo> On the same hardware?
[04:46] <phunyguy> histo, in 12.10 it works perfect
[04:46] <panorain> Dr_Willis I have only a p4 here not a core2duo
[04:46] <phunyguy> histo yes
[04:46]  * phunyguy facepalms.
[04:47] <histo> phunyguy: well it's kernel related I don't know what to tell you.
[04:47] <moog1> i have a bug with sakis3g..... somebody can help me ?
[04:47] <ghostx562> drdy error, any one knows what that is?
[04:47] <panorain> Dr_Willis how can I input a command in terminal to inform me of what gtk version I am using?
[04:47] <phunyguy> histo I was asking what package to file the bug on, if the 3.5 kernel works in 12.10, I cant make myself file a bug against it.
[04:48] <Dr_Willis> panorain:   12.10 used gtk3
[04:48] <histo> !info linux-image-generic precise | phunyguy
[04:48] <Dr_Willis> panorain:  for a low end system i would use lubuntu over gnoem classic. ;)
[04:48] <panorain> Dr_Willis does 12.10 with gnome classic still have gtk3 enabled?
[04:49] <phunyguy> histo, it is 3.5 kernel
[04:49] <phunyguy> ><
[04:49] <panorain> Dr_Willis that's what i'm thinking
[04:49] <histo> phunyguy: hold on
[04:49] <moog1> when i try to connect it tell me "failed to connect"
[04:49] <Dr_Willis> panorain:  gnome-classic is NOT the old gnome.. its just a look alike.. so yes. i do belive its using gtk3 so that adds even more confusion to the mix
[04:50] <phunyguy> histo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5578301/
[04:50] <Dr_Willis> panorain:  and i hear the next (?) relese of gnome is supposed to have its own gnome-2ish theme.
[04:50] <panorain> Dr_Willis what about gtk 3.6 alot of the themes are GTK 3.6
[04:50] <Dr_Willis> panorain:  thats the newest relase of gnome. its avilabe via ppa's im using it on my desktop
[04:50] <ghostx562> i can't get ubuntu to run or install on my pc.
[04:50] <histo> phunyguy: dpkg -l | grep linux-image | pastebinit
[04:50] <ghostx562> anyone have any ideas?
[04:51] <Dr_Willis> 3.8 gnome ive read is supposed to have a lot of improvements.. ;)
[04:51] <histo> !details | ghostx562
[04:51] <Dr_Willis> or was that the right version.. i dont pay attention to gnome news
[04:51] <panorain> Dr_Willis heh
[04:51] <phunyguy> histo http://paste.ubuntu.com/5578304/
[04:51] <moog1> somebody knows sakis3g ???
[04:52] <panorain> I am beginning to like the terminal more each day
[04:52] <Dr_Willis> moog1:  is it an animal, vegatable, mineral, or person?
[04:52] <ghostx562> i am trying to install ubuntu 12.10 onto my pc. it loads then i am having a problem with the computer giving me an error with ata4.00 . it says drdy error, then it stays at a purple screen that keeps loading over and over.
[04:52] <ghostx562> And the OS Will not install.
[04:52] <moog1> it is a soft
[04:53] <panorain> ghostx562 perhaps your .iso did not have a good checksum
[04:54] <histo> phunyguy: then file on linux-image-generic-lts-quantal
[04:54] <ghostx562> panorain, i have download the OS 3 times from ubuntu website, any other suggestions?
[04:54] <panorain> ghostx562 try downloading the .iso file again do not use the linuxfreedom server
[04:54] <eN_Joy_> my port 80 is open to all, but still from time to time i have access blocked to that port, does anyone have a similar problem?
[04:54] <panorain> ghostx562 ok sorry
[04:54] <Guest44950> hello, I'm trying to apply a patch file for some source code, I entered patch -p1 sensor.patch and terminal seems to be stuck on something
[04:54] <ghostx562> panorain, is there like a torrent option?
[04:54] <Tex_Nick> dr_willis : panorain originally asked for an older look/feel to 12.10 unity ... i recommended ... sudo apt-get install gnome-panel ... was that stupid advice ... if so i need to knowso ican not do it again ;-)
[04:54] <panorain> ghostx562 I am a noob
[04:54] <phunyguy> histo, that seems so wrong.... it works in quantal
[04:54] <phunyguy> :(
[04:55] <Guest44950> is that the correct command to apply a patch file?
[04:55] <ghostx562> panorain, its ok ill search on the site.
[04:55] <trism> Guest44950: patch reads patch files from stdin by default, so: patch -p1 < sensor.patch;
[04:56] <histo> phunyguy: okay well perhaps someone else can tell you what package
[04:56] <Guest44950> ok great, thank you
[04:56] <histo> phunyguy: Try the 3.2 kernel and see if the issue is there.
[04:56] <phunyguy> histo, the issue was there with 3,2
[04:56] <panorain> ghostx562 I am just excited sorry for bugging you guys so much
[04:56] <histo> phunyguy: you didn't even know how to cat /sys/.... so how do you know that?
[04:56] <phunyguy> Its why I used the 12.10 release from alpha on
[04:56] <histo> phunyguy: or how were you checking earlier?
[04:57] <panorain> I am headed back to gnome 2 most likely anyways with dillo
[04:57] <panorain> all this new stuff is wild
[04:57] <phunyguy> histo: a simple "cat /proc/cpuinfo" would tell me the freq
[04:57] <holstein> gnome2 is EOL
[04:57] <phunyguy> histo: don't need fancy cat commands for that
[04:57] <histo> phunyguy: then file it with the acpi-cpufreq module
[04:58] <panorain> holstein then i'll run fluxbox
[04:58] <Dr_Willis> panorain:  i suggest you try lubuntu on low end hardware
[04:58] <panorain> i'm just hangin out
[04:58] <histo> phunyguy: what is the maximum step in cpuinfo?
[04:58] <Tex_Nick> panorain:  i might have given you bad advice for switching to gnome classic ... i'm using it, have had to tweak several things ... but it's been flawless for the most part ... if you find support problems with it though ... might be best for you to just revert bact to unity
[04:58] <holstein> panorain: i find XFCE to be a lot like gnome2 was
[04:58] <phunyguy> histo: "stepping"?
[04:58] <phunyguy> or max speed?
[04:59] <panorain> Tex_Nick I just need to read more you give awesome advice and thank you
[04:59] <histo> phunyguy: max speed
[04:59] <Dr_Willis> the gnome-classic-fallabck stuff has always been a bit of a after thought tossed in to keep people from complainng too much, while the gnome-devs work on what they really want to focus on... gnome-shell
[04:59] <phunyguy> histo, 2.6GHz
[05:00] <panorain> holstein fair enough maybe dapper drake somehow get a browser that still works  it's all good
[05:00] <panorain> your all very helpful
[05:00] <Dr_Willis> for an decent old skool light desktop. lubuntu is hard to beat
[05:01] <Dr_Willis> no need to go back to obsolete old relesaes or mess with barely-developed gnomeish-2ish look alikes. ;)
[05:02] <histo> phunyguy: cpufreq-info | pastebinit
[05:03] <panorain> Dr_Willis I have to say hardy heron days I wanted to just learn more about tor etc I don't need all the fancy widgets
[05:03] <ghostx562> i am trying to install ubuntu 12.10 over windows 8, any specific steps i need to take?
[05:03] <phunyguy> histo  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5578326/
[05:04] <Tex_Nick> Dr_Willis : i'm going to take that as good advice for myself ... and not recommend gnome classic in the future :-)
[05:04] <panorain> heh
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> ghostx562:  be sure you got  a full set of restore disks made juat in case you need to put windows 8 back on
[05:04] <phunyguy> histo, I can already see.... current policy: frequency should be within 1.20 GHz and 1.20 GHz.
[05:04] <phunyguy> o.O
[05:05] <Dr_Willis> Tex_Nick:  we will have to see what happens with the gnome-shell - gnome2ish them ive heard mentioned...
[05:05] <histo> phunyguy: can you pastebin that from 12.10? I'm assuming it's the ondemand problem
[05:05] <Dr_Willis> Tex_Nick:  but i bet lubuntu will still be lighter then that gs+g2theme
[05:05] <histo> phunyguy: the range for it.
[05:05] <phunyguy> uhhh... I dont have 12.10 installed......
[05:05] <phunyguy> :(
[05:05] <phunyguy> but I can boot livecd real quick
[05:06] <phunyguy> gimme about 10
[05:06] <histo> k
[05:06] <ghostx562> Dr_Willis: i originally had ubuntu but tried out windows 8 just to see all the hype and im trying to go back to ubuntu, but can't get it to install.
[05:06] <panorain> i figure with knowing little having limited skill i was lucky to learn about ralink chipsets let alone other operating systems then windows
[05:07] <Dr_Willis> ghostx562:  use gparted from a live cd to partition the hd beforhand perhaps?  i never used win8. so cant advise more
[05:07] <ghostx562> Dr_Willis: I"ve no CD Drive.
[05:07] <histo> phunyguy: I can confirm it's workign on my laptop
[05:08] <phunyguy> histo, on 12.10?
[05:08] <histo> phunyguy: in 12.10
[05:08] <phunyguy> histo, ok I am creating a bootUSB now
[05:08] <nn0101> !tell ghostx562 about liveusb
[05:08] <phunyguy> I will get you the info
[05:08] <histo> phunyguy: k.
[05:08] <histo> phunyguy: you'll have to install cpufrequtils  to see that range
[05:08] <Tex_Nick> Dr_Willis : i've never tried lubuntu ... i just ordered components for a cheap box from newEgg ... just for a test platform ... do me a favor ... when you see me giving crazy advice ... kick me in the backside REAL hard ;-)
[05:08] <phunyguy> histo, that's ok.
[05:09] <histo> phunyguy: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5578332/  It should look like this
[05:09] <panorain> haha
[05:09] <histo> phunyguy: lines 11-13 in yours is wrong
[05:09] <panorain> Son!
[05:09] <histo> phunyguy: A bug
[05:09] <phunyguy> histo, thanks
[05:09] <panorain> Tex_Nick you rule  you ever run emerald in linux mint?
[05:10] <phunyguy> I will load up xchat in the liveusb
[05:10] <histo> phunyguy: k
[05:11] <Dr_Willis> emerald is basically a dead project.
[05:11] <panorain> Son
[05:11] <ghostx562> nn0101, thanks :D
[05:11] <histo> panorain: why do you keep saying son?
[05:11] <panorain> sorry
[05:11] <panorain> just excited
[05:11] <Dr_Willis> Tex_Nick:  i install lubuntu on most every box i have. ;)
[05:11] <phunyguy> !ot | panorain
[05:11] <Dr_Willis> !emerals
[05:11] <Tex_Nick> panorain:  no ... i'm kinda still living in the days od minix ... i played with mint for bout a week though ;-)
[05:11] <Dr_Willis> !emerald
[05:14] <panorain> I best close my flap at this point and observe
[05:14] <Guest44950> Hi again, I did a   'git clone git://gitorious.org/beagleboard-validation/linux.git ValidationKernel'  into a working directory but I don't see any of the files or directories I cloned, am I missing something
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> normally someone asks for an emerald alternative after i post that factoid....    ;)
[05:16] <panorain> there is none
[05:16] <Tex_Nick> Dr_Willis : thanks for the input there ... i'll put lubuntu on this new box in a couple days ... you might have taught an old dog a new trick ;-)
[05:16] <Guest44950> is there a way to change my name in XChat? I can't find the option
[05:16] <Laogeodritt> Guest22253: /nick new_nickname_here
[05:16] <ghostx562> its usually in a menu when you open it
[05:16] <Dr_Willis> irc basics Guest44950    /nick I_love_Ubotu
[05:16] <ghostx562> that works also
[05:17] <phunyguy_> histo, what was that cpufreq package/
[05:17] <Sazpaimon> how do I restore the windows boot manager using efibootmgr?
[05:17] <histo> phunyguy_: sudo apt-get install cpufrequtils
[05:17] <histo> phunyguy_: also pastebinit
[05:17] <histo> phunyguy_: then you can cpufreq-info | pastebinit
[05:17] <phunyguy_> histo, package not found
[05:17] <ghostx562> It's Alive!
[05:17] <histo> !info cpufrequtils
[05:18] <tozen> exit
[05:18] <histo> phunyguy_: enable the universe repo and apt-get update
[05:18] <phunyguy_> histo, it may not work on live.
[05:18] <phunyguy_> ok
[05:18] <histo> phunyguy_: sure it will
[05:18] <histo> phunyguy_: there is no difference between live and installed
[05:18] <phunyguy_> got it
[05:18] <histo> phunyguy_: In the software aspect it's just a configuration difference with the users /swap etc...
[05:19] <dmitryp> hmm sorry about asking again, I need help with a git command, I entered 'git clone git://gitorious.org/beagleboard-validation/linux.git ValidationKernel'  into a working directory but I don't see any of the files or directories there
[05:19] <phunyguy_> aaaand it wont install, hence why that repo is disabled I'm sure, histo
[05:20] <histo> phunyguy_: edit /etc/apt/sources.list and add the universe repo
[05:20] <phunyguy_> histo I did it through software-sources
[05:20] <phunyguy_> and it sees it there, but the install process fails.
[05:20] <phunyguy_> want a pastebin>
[05:20] <phunyguy_> ?
[05:21] <phunyguy_> nevermind, it was another package that failed histo
[05:21] <histo> phunyguy_: k is it installed now?
[05:22] <phunyguy_> histo http://paste.ubuntu.com/5578355/
[05:22] <phunyguy_> it works there
[05:22] <phunyguy_> histo 3.5.0_17 kernel
[05:22] <phunyguy_> (older)
[05:22] <histo> phunyguy_: yeah the ondemand governer is working
[05:23] <histo> phunyguy_: it's working here in 3.5.0-24
[05:23] <phunyguy_> see what I mean about the package to file a bug against?
[05:23] <histo> phunyguy_: the kernel in precise that you were running is the issue. That stuff is all handled by the kernel
[05:23] <phunyguy_> histo, it's 3.5.0_25 kernel there
[05:23] <phunyguy_> brb
[05:24] <histo> phunyguy_: that's for versioning so that you can't upgrade to incremental releases
[05:24] <phunyguy_> and it was the same with the 3.2 kernel
[05:24] <dmitryp> would anyone mind helping me with the command to close the repository?
[05:24] <phunyguy_> so you still think its that kernel package, the quantal-lts dealy?
[05:24] <dmitryp> clone*
[05:25] <histo> phunyguy_: Yes.
[05:26] <histo> phunyguy_: frequency scaling is messed up on your hardware running that kernel. I don't have a 12.04.2 install or I would check.
[05:26] <robotnut> anyone using ubuntu on phone or tablet?
[05:27] <histo> !phone | robotnut
[05:27] <allaire> I'm doing a ps aux | grep foo and it returns Warning: /boot/System.map-3.5.0-17-generic has an incorrect kernel version. -- Any ideas?
[05:27] <dmitryp> can anyone read this?
[05:27] <Dr_Willis> theres also #ubuntu-arm
[05:27] <Dr_Willis> dmitryp:  yes.
[05:27] <dmitryp> great, is my noob question being ignored?
[05:28] <Dr_Willis> !patience
[05:28] <histo> dmitryp: close what repo?
[05:28] <Dr_Willis> or no one knows...
[05:28] <doomlord> wireless network appears to be disabled ,lshw says ... how to rectify?
[05:28] <Dr_Willis> i just use apt-cacher-ng  to cache repos
[05:28] <dmitryp> ok I guess i'll look online some more
[05:28] <holstein> dmitryp: i personally dont understand the question.. youa re trying to clone the PPA you have created?
[05:28] <Dr_Willis> dmitryp:  check askubuntu.com
[05:28] <dmitryp> can I do that with gitorious?
[05:28] <dmitryp> ok
[05:28] <doomlord>        configuration: broadcast=yes driver=iwlwifi driverversion=3.5.0-25-generic firmware=18.168.6.1 latency=0 multicast=yes wireless=IEEE 802.11abgn
[05:29] <doomlord>   *-network DISABLED
[05:29] <histo> dmitryp: Oh you had the git clone problem?
[05:29] <robotnut> anyone using ubuntu on phone or tablet?
[05:29] <dmitryp> yep
[05:29] <holstein> !phone
[05:29] <doomlord> (the wireless network works under windows, but under ubuntun its disabled.. there's an indicator light that comesup)
[05:29] <Dr_Willis> robotnut:  ask in the #ubuntu-arm or #ubuntu-touch channels
[05:29] <dmitryp> I used git clone '...' foldername, it did everything correctly but I could not findthe folder afterwards
[05:29] <Dr_Willis> 'touch' what an innovative name....
[05:30] <histo> dmitryp: why the space there?
[05:30] <robotnut> thx
[05:30] <doomlord> also, anyone know of a desktop pager which does thumbnailing ?
[05:30] <dmitryp> I'm sorry, which space?
[05:30] <panorain> Tex_Nick I know this is off topic but check out http://ghostbsd.org/ when you have time
[05:31] <histo> dmitryp: git clone somesitefoo_space_folder
[05:31] <histo> dmitryp: try git clone pathtoproject
[05:32] <histo> dmitryp: Oh I got you ... You are trying to create a new directory
[05:32] <rumblebumble> need some help with 12.
[05:32] <AcidRain> i have ubuntu 11.04. how can i install cinnamon on this? or someones preffered desktop environment
[05:32] <histo> dmitryp: do you have write access to whatever folder you are in that you are trying to clone to?
[05:33] <holstein> AcidRain: i would look for a PPA for cinammon
[05:33] <histo> !eol | AcidRain
[05:33] <dmitryp> yes, and when I try it again, it says folder already exists
[05:33] <histo> AcidRain: upgrade soon
[05:33] <dmitryp> however I cannot see it, maybe there is nother command i need to enter
[05:33] <rumblebumble> need some help with 12.10. I paired up my blurtooth mouse, it works great. if it is disconnected, it does not auto re-connect like it has in the past.
[05:33] <AcidRain> histo, if u cant help me. plz dont spam channel with undeeded information
[05:33] <AcidRain> thx
[05:33] <histo> dmitryp: what directory name are you using?
[05:33] <rumblebumble> How do I fix this
[05:34] <holstein> rumblebumble: i would expect to reconnect.. thats not an option?
[05:34] <histo> AcidRain: I'm trying to help you.... you are approaching end of lief
[05:34] <remon__> Hi, I installed webcam studio on Ub 12.10 . The application loads, but , there is no output. I added video to my usser group. but without any succes. Preview works fine but i cant seem to find the virtual cam to use the java web applet. Any ideaś?
[05:34] <AcidRain> histo, my life is long.
[05:35] <holstein> AcidRain: nothin is preventing you from adding cinammon, though cinammon is not supported here, and 11.10 is EOL soon, and histo has pointed out[C[C
[05:35] <ghostx562> acidrain, that means that support for that version of the OS will no longer be offered.
[05:35] <histo> AcidRain: Nope actually your version of ubuntu is end of life nevermind
[05:35] <jeetpei> :D
[05:35] <remon__> for example when i use manycam on ehum windows it will let me choose the virtual cam of manycam in the java applet.
[05:35] <histo> AcidRain: It's not supported anymore.
[05:35] <jeetpei> AcidRain: i guess histo talking about your Ubuntu's life
[05:36] <dmitryp> histo: I'm using '/home/dmitry/aptina/ValidationKernel'
[05:36] <remon__> i guess it should be looped some how. any ideaś?
[05:36] <histo> dmitryp: can you please copy and paste the ocmmand you are typing in here.
[05:36] <AcidRain> histo, so what your saying is that its impossible for me to add a ppa to my resources and install cinnamon?
[05:37] <histo> dmitryp: or pastebinit
[05:37] <AcidRain> histo, i dont want to lose my files
[05:37] <histo> AcidRain: then upgrade I'm giving you the instructions but you don't "want my help"
[05:37] <histo> good luck
[05:37] <dmitryp> git clone git://gitorious.org/beagleboard-validation/linux.git ValidationKernel
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> a ppa may not support that release AcidRain
[05:37] <AcidRain> histo, but if i upgrade. will my files still be there?
[05:37] <rumblebumble> holstein, No it is not
[05:37] <histo> !eol > AcidRain
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> AcidRain:  allways keep backups..
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> ugrade keeps your home files.. but keep backups...
[05:38] <rumblebumble> holstein, I actually have to delete the device to get it to reconnect
[05:38] <histo> dmitryp: what's the output of pwd
[05:39] <Sazpaimon> how do I restore the windows boot manager using efibootmgr?
[05:39] <dmitryp> histo: what is a pwd?
[05:39] <histo> dmitryp: print working directory. I think you are confused as to where you are.
[05:39] <rumblebumble> holstein, there must be a regression somewhere in 12.10 wrt to bluetooth
[05:39] <holstein> rumblebumble: could be
[05:39] <dmitryp> histo: /home/dmitry/aptina/driver
[05:40] <histo> dmitryp: okay then cd /home/dmitry/aptina/ValidationKernel
[05:40] <histo> dmitryp: okay then cd /home/dmitry/aptina/driver/ValidationKernel
[05:40] <histo> dmitryp: sorry second one.
[05:40] <c2tarun> can anyone help me in configuring conky. I am facing certain problems: I mentioned all problems here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2121456
[05:40] <dmitryp> histo: either of the two gives m ea no such fiile or directory error
[05:41] <histo> dmitryp: You are in the driver directory cloning a git source into the ValidationKernel directory.  Do you understand this?
[05:41] <histo> dmitryp: You already stated it was giving you an error that the file exists.
[05:41] <dmitryp> correct
[05:41] <histo> then it's there
[05:41] <dmitryp> exactly
[05:42] <holstein> c2tarun: i would just remove parts, and try and see what the issue is... i usually just run conky from the terminal when testing, so its easy to kill and spawn
[05:42] <dmitryp> it gives me an error when I try the git clone, but no file or directory error when I try to CD
[05:42] <histo> dmitryp: open a terminal type your git command in and then do an ls after it's done. Pastebin the output
[05:42] <remon__> in /dev i have both the virtualcam and my webcam listed. Any idea's?
[05:42] <dmitryp> A directory already exists and is not empty when I try the git clone
[05:42] <histo> !paste | dmitryp
[05:43] <c2tarun> holstein, yup, but now its not even working from terminal, if I remove conky and reinstall again, it'll run but on reboot again I am facing same problem.
[05:43] <histo> c2tarun: there is #conky
[05:43] <c2tarun> histo, yeah, everyone seems to be sleeping there. So I thought if anyone here can help me.
[05:44] <holstein> c2tarun: i would remove *parts*.. and test.. try and determine which part of the config is bad
[05:44] <crazyhorse> i'm trying to switch from osx -> ubuntu but at the moment i have a major blocker which is the speed of google chrome.  It's incredibly slow, tabs crash and hang regularly (note it works perfectly under both windows 8 / xp / osx 10.7 / osx 10.8.  I develop web-based information system so i spend nearly all day inside chrome and the debugger panel
[05:44] <c2tarun> holstein, ok, let me try to grab default template and test if its working or not
[05:44] <crazyhorse> i can't work out what's causing the issue, i have plenty of ram left, it's the newest version of chrome.  I'm running 12.04 (only 1 day old)
[05:45] <dmitryp> histo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5578393/
[05:45] <dmitryp> it's there, but I don't see it in file browser
[05:45] <holstein> crazyhorse: start witha fresh config.. i use chrome al the time, and it works great
[05:45] <crazyhorse> holstein: haha, works for me.. doesn't help :(
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> c2tarun:  you did auto start it via a script with like a 10 second delay?
[05:46] <c2tarun> holstein, hmm... its odd, there was two files .conkyrc~ and .conkyrc.swp, I deleted them manually and conky started working.
[05:46] <c2tarun> Dr_Willis, sorry, I am not getting, can you please rephrase.
[05:46] <holstein> crazyhorse: sure, thats what i included the comment about removing your current config... i just say "it works" so you know its possible.. otherwise, i would say, just remove it if it didnt work
[05:46] <crazyhorse> holstien: i just installed it
[05:46] <crazyhorse> holstein: and i had the same issues in chromium
[05:47] <holstein> crazyhorse: there should be a config there.. or try as a different user
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> c2tarun: the conky faq details how to properly auto start conky. it must wait untill the desktop is loaded.
[05:47] <holstein> crazyhorse: chromiume works fine too
[05:47] <holstein> chromium*
[05:47] <AcidRain> so if i upgrade to 12.04, your telling me that i wont lose files?
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> c2tarun: or it may get hidden
[05:47] <crazyhorse> holstein: hang on.. it's a blank install.. i've not changed anything
[05:47] <histo> dmitryp: in your file browser hit ctrl+l  and type in /home/aptina/driver/
[05:47] <holstein> AcidRain: you should have backups anyway
[05:47] <crazyhorse> holstein: installed.. started trying to load webpages thats it
[05:47] <AcidRain> so whats that mean? its a possibility that i lose everything, though i shouldnt?
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> AcidRain:  power failure during upgrade is never good...
[05:47] <coolroot>  /msg NickServ identify 1234abcd
[05:48] <AcidRain> are yall sure this is safe after i backup?
[05:48] <c2tarun> Dr_Willis, okay, now I got that why conky is not working in startup applications :P, can you please see my last post in this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2121456   can you please see the problem I am facing in changing font colors, please see if you can suggest something.
[05:48] <dmitryp> histo: ok, and then?
[05:48] <jeetpei> AcidRain : no its not ; but always have backup
[05:48] <panorain> Dr_Willis can you give me an apt package for gtk3 that will give me more themes fast in 12.04?
[05:48] <Dr_Willis> AcidRain:  better to backup now.. then to learn how to recover later
[05:48] <histo> dmitryp: Do you see it now?
[05:48] <holstein> crazyhorse: have you applied all upgrades?
[05:48] <Dr_Willis> panorain:  nope. im on my phone.
[05:48] <crazyhorse> holstein: which upgrades?
[05:48] <histo> dmitryp: Specifically the ValidationKernel directory
[05:48] <panorain> Dr_Willis ok sorry
[05:49] <crazyhorse> holstein: oh general OS upgrades?
[05:49] <holstein> crazyhorse: any system upgrades that might be breaking your setup
[05:49] <crazyhorse> ah no.. i'll reboot and give that a go :)
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> panorain:  i just use the ones from webupd8
[05:49] <holstein> crazyhorse: you can also start google-chrome from the terminal and see if you see any helpful error messages
[05:50] <dmitryp> histo: no I don't see it, however, when I typed cd ValidationKernel I was taken to /.local/share/Trash/files/driver/ValidationKernel$
[05:51] <holstein> AcidRain: you need to just have backups... imagine *when* that hard drive fails.. plan for that, and then you cant do anything you cant recover from easily
[05:51] <histo> dmitryp: What sort of experience do you have with linux?
[05:51] <Dr_Willis> hard drives seem to be the biggest point of failure these days.
[05:52] <AcidRain> holstein, i have crongjobs that backup everything every morning at 3am. but only important files rather.
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> might be better to ask.. why you dont allready habe backups made. ;0
[05:52] <AcidRain> other than that, nothig is kept on my internal drive
[05:53] <panorain> Dr_Willis are the webup8 ppa's safe containing no malware?
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> panorain:  have you ever seen of heard of malware on linux?
[05:53] <ghostx562> ?
[05:53] <holstein> AcidRain: you will lose *all* files when that hard drive fails, so you might as well plan for that
[05:54] <dmitryp> histo: not a lot, I think the file in the trash from a different installation
[05:54] <AcidRain> holstein, chances of 2 drives going out at same time?
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> panorain:  its a major linux news and info site...  use it if you want.. or not.
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> work time.. bbl.
[05:54] <panorain> Dr_willis I am concerned about firefox and the builtin firewall on ubuntu 12.10
[05:54] <rahul01> hi
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> AcidRain:  seen it happen with a power surge
[05:54] <holstein> AcidRain: doesnt matter. if you have your data backed up, then you wont lose anything in any upgrade or reinstall
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> panorain:  the firewall 'builtin' is turned off by default..
[05:55] <AcidRain> Dr_Willis, i have 2 power surges before my cmputer is reached? still happen?
[05:55] <Dr_Willis> panorain:  biggest danger to a linux box is the end user doing somthing stupid.
[05:55] <ghostx562> it can still happen
[05:55] <Dr_Willis> AcidRain:  ever see a lighting bolt hit a house.....
[05:55] <panorain> heh
[05:55] <AcidRain> Dr_Willis, no lol. sounds cool though. not for people in it
[05:55] <Dr_Willis> set my carpet on fire...
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> work time.. bbl.
[05:56] <histo> dmitryp: Can you make sure that the path is showing in your file browser and paste a screenshot to imagebin.org
[05:56] <histo> dmitryp: to show the path you hit ctrl+L
[05:56] <ghostx562> see ya willis
[05:56] <panorain> can anyone tell me what version gtk I am using with 12.10 on gnome-classic is it 3.0 and if so can i use a 3.6 gnome theme?
[05:56] <AcidRain> Dr_Willis, ok, i have backedup everything i can think of. so all i have to do is hit this upgrade to 12.04 LTS and im good? or in theory
[05:57] <holstein> AcidRain: it doesnt matter.. this is in response to "will i lose data if i upgrade" and im just saying, assume you will, and backup what you need, and you wont lose it
[05:57] <sunson> I'd like to draw parallel lines, perpendicular lines, bisect angles, etc., and basically do simple engineering drawings. what is a good free software program that would let me do this?
[05:57] <holstein> !inkscape
[05:57] <panorain> AcidRain watch out Unity may cause issues for newcomers
[05:57] <ghostx562> sunson, pencil & paper
[05:57] <AcidRain> sunson, goto the science section of the software center
[05:57] <AcidRain> panorain, as soon as install is done, i install gnome2 shell
[05:58] <panorain> AcidRain please help me then
[05:58] <sunson> ghostx562: pencil and paper is too painful. I'd ideally want a drafter...
[05:58] <AcidRain> i almost refuse to update just because i know ill have to look at unity long enough to do sudos
[05:58] <panorain> haha
[05:58] <panorain> AcidRain wow
[05:58] <AcidRain> gnome-shell i believe
[05:58] <sunson> AcidRain: ok, will check out.
[05:58] <dmitryp> histo: http://imagebin.org/248643
[05:58] <ghostx562> well im done with ubuntu, it seems it doesn't want to install on my pc.
[05:59] <AcidRain> ok all, here goes.
[05:59] <holstein> you can see unity on the live CD.. check it out for yourself and decide... xubuntu looks/feels a lot like the ond gnome2 setup
[05:59]  * AcidRain clicks on upgrade button
[05:59] <thoonai> SamanthaD: AcidRain don't do it
[05:59] <AcidRain> SNAP! i alrdy did! did?
[05:59] <panorain> nooooooooooooooooooooooo
[05:59] <AcidRain> why?*
[06:00] <AcidRain> :'(
[06:00] <AcidRain> unity is haxt meh
[06:00] <panorain> AcidRain I agree but I am only a nood
[06:00] <thoonai> AcidRain: sorry for trolling you, im sorry
[06:00] <AcidRain> unity just said "all ur base r mine"
[06:00] <AcidRain> wtf
[06:00] <panorain> AcidRain I do not want to bug you sorry
[06:01] <histo> dmitryp: and ls -l in the terminal while you are in the driver directory shows the VirtualKernel directory?
[06:01] <panorain> now to get a decent them with square corners like crux
[06:02] <rahul01> hii, what is rolling release in ubuntu?
[06:02] <panorain> gosh if I had crux and a 3.5 kernal I could read more about wifi etc.
[06:02] <rahul01> means how can i download it
[06:02] <thoonai> is there a rolling release?
[06:02] <AcidRain> unity clicked on the "start upgrade" button and disabled the cancel button!
[06:02] <histo> dmitryp: paste the output of ls -l /home/dmitry/aptina/driver/*
[06:02] <phunyguy> histo: I am really weirded out by this
[06:03] <histo> phunyguy: Why?
[06:03] <phunyguy> histo: after a reboot it works
[06:03] <thoonai> AcidRain: never trust unity ... its like mac, shining blinky but evil on the inside
[06:03] <phunyguy> let me try to unplug and replug, that may give a glue
[06:03] <phunyguy> cue*
[06:03] <phunyguy> clue*
[06:03] <robotnut> doing the harlem dance
[06:03] <panorain> heh
[06:04] <phunyguy> ahhh histo, yeah it dropped again
[06:04] <phunyguy> it is on the unpug and replug that it fails.
[06:04] <histo> phunyguy: after reboot what worked i'm confused?
[06:04] <phunyguy> histo if I reboot with the cord plugged in, it starts up in ondemand with it working as expected.  If I unplug the cord and replug it in, it drops back to stuck at 1.2GHz
[06:04] <panorain> AcidRain what operating system were you using before 12.10 unity?
[06:05] <dmitryp> histo: http://pastebin.com/g1y87zen
[06:05] <dmitryp> histo: it does not show up in ls -l, only when i do git clone it says the directory already exists
[06:06] <thoonai> AcidRain: unity still running?
[06:08] <panorain> AcidRain how are you installing the gnome 2 shell?
[06:09] <histo> dmitryp: It was there... Did you delete it? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5578393/ <<<<<  this was your earlier paste where did it go?
[06:09] <dmitryp> histo: no I didn't this is weird
[06:10] <histo> dmitryp: I have no idea what is going on.
[06:10] <crazyhorse> if i want to run 2 or 3 copies of ubuntu and a single copy of windows concurrently, what is the method that gets the most out of the hardware with the least amount of compataibility issues?
[06:10] <phunyguy> histo, bug filed: #1139331
[06:11] <dmitryp> histo: now it's doing git again when I did git clone. is there a command that I need to type in after git clone, like 'commit'?
[06:12] <dmitryp> histo: never mind I see the folder now, let me see that it doesn't disappear after it finishes. anyways thank you so much for your help, I'm have a headache from this so I'm gonna go for today, thank you
[06:13] <histo> phunyguy: cool.
[06:13] <phunyguy> I should have filed that bug when 12.04 came out
[06:13] <histo> !manual | dmitryp
[06:14] <histo> phunyguy: it's probably just something with your hardware
[06:14] <phunyguy> histo I don't doubt it, but it is common hardware
[06:14] <phunyguy> regular intel cpu
[06:14] <phunyguy> all intel hardware
[06:15] <panorain> histo you ever run elegence colors in 12:10?
[06:15] <Tex_Nick> panorain:  i've been out looking for coyotes ... just scrolled up ... for gtk version, try this ... dpkg -s libgtk-3-0|grep '^Version'
[06:15] <phunyguy> histo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5578433/
[06:15] <phunyguy> that is lspci
[06:16] <AcidRain> there is an ungoldy amount of errors while installing as i glance at terminal
[06:16] <AcidRain> cant be good
[06:16] <panorain> Tex_nick left me 3.6.0-0ubuntu3.2
[06:17] <panorain> Tek_Nick please see www.webup8.org/2013/01/elegance-colors-gnome-shell-theme-gets.html
[06:17] <histo> phunyguy: Yeah ... and I'm assuming since everybody and their brother isn't complaining about it. Its' something specific to your hardware/bios
[06:17] <panorain> Tex_Nick thanks again
[06:18] <panorain> Tex_Nick my gtk version is 3.6.0-0ubuntu3.2
[06:19] <phunyguy> histo, it isn't a noticable thing
[06:19] <phunyguy> the desktop still runs smooth
[06:19] <Tex_Nick> panorain: that url looks like a parked url ?
[06:19] <phunyguy> I should test the livecd again with the unplug and replug, histo
[06:19] <phunyguy> since that's what triggered it
[06:19] <phunyguy> brb
[06:20] <histo> phunyguy: yeah just to be sure. Make sure you add all that to your bug report too.
[06:20] <phunyguy> and I did
[06:20] <Tex_Nick> panorain: have a look at this ... http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/gnome_shell/quantal/main/base/gtk+3.0
[06:20] <panorain> Tex_Nick yes it is from the site webupd8 what is a parked url anyways?
[06:21] <panorain> Tex_Nick your on the smart end thanks
[06:22] <ghostx562> exit
[06:22] <panorain> Tex_Nick should I think about security before adding this repo to adp?
[06:23] <Tex_Nick> panorain: a parked url is usually a url that once belongeg to someone who let it lapse for some reason ... the isp then puts their own advertising there tyhen
[06:24] <diverdude> hi, i used checkinstall....it started and got an error, instead it built some backup package it installed it seems. is it possible to remove this package again?
[06:26] <Tex_Nick> panorain: that url ... http://ww1.webup8.org/2013/01/elegance-colors-gnome-shell-theme-gets.html ... looks to me like just a bunch of advertising links ?
[06:26] <phunyguy_> histo: :( - the problem is there in 12.10  :(
[06:26]  * phunyguy_ cries
[06:27] <Tex_Nick> panorain: http://ww1.webup8.org/2013/01/elegance-colors-gnome-shell-theme-gets.html ... This page provided to the domain owner free by Sedo's Domain Parking
[06:27] <phunyguy_> histo, some more info though.  If I unplug and replug with the CPU not maxed, it goes back to the right setting
[06:27] <phunyguy_> so it seems to only do it when the CPU is pegged
[06:28] <BuddaT> righteo, so I have a new box set up for me by my host, I'm SSH'd in - apt-get, make and dpkg aren't installed at all
[06:28] <BuddaT> how do i get apt-get going
[06:29] <panorain> Tek_Nick what does sedo domain parking mean?
[06:29] <Ben64> BuddaT: theres a fairly good chance you don't have ubuntu on it
[06:29] <Tex_Nick> panorain: anyway, hey regarding which themes will work for you ... only advice i could give is ... just try the ones you find ... they either work or they don't ;-)
[06:29] <BuddaT> hmm
[06:29] <BuddaT> where can i check that
[06:30] <panorain> Tex_Nick thank you I have so many questions maybe I can help you someday
[06:30] <Ben64> BuddaT: cat /etc/*release
[06:30] <Tex_Nick> panorain: i've tried several on this box ... most of them worked ... a few didn't though ... i just delete the ones that don't work or that i don't want :)
[06:30] <til4k> So I have this problem, seems common, described it here http://askubuntu.com/questions/262940/ubuntu-software-center-error
[06:31] <BuddaT> CentOS, brilliant
[06:31] <BuddaT> i totally told them to install ubuntu
[06:31] <BuddaT> sigh
[06:31] <Ben64> enjoy your "yum" :P
[06:31] <til4k> im not entirely sure what the problem is but i see everyone has it
[06:31] <panorain> Tex_Nick thank you for your help did you find a coyote?
[06:31] <til4k> ive tried a bunch of stuff
[06:32] <panorain> I am a noob
[06:32] <contrapunctus> Say, folks, is there any way I can make my notebook play a sound when the battery reaches a specified level? Also, any way to 1. get the battery level (in percent) and 2. switch between normal/presentation modes using only the terminal?
[06:32] <Tex_Nick> panorain: mind if i pm you ... might be best to take this off channel
[06:32] <BuddaT> thanks, Ben64
[06:32] <contrapunctus> (using 12.04 UbuntuStudio (=XFCE))
[06:32] <panorain> Tex_Nick no problem
[06:33] <til4k> contrapunctus: youre talking about software
[06:33] <contrapunctus> til4k: ???
[06:33] <til4k> unlesss its a configuration in the pre-installed ubuntustudio i dunno
[06:34] <contrapunctus> So what software, if that's what's needed?
[06:34] <til4k> contrapunctus: not really what ubuntu support means, but you can ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:35] <til4k> im not fam with xfce personally
[06:35] <contrapunctus> lol!
[06:38] <magn3ts> softwarecenter is a nightmare
[06:38] <magn3ts> I think it may be the single slowest piece of software in an ubuntu install
[06:42] <kepler> it is oddly slow
[06:43] <Dr_Willis> hmm.. isent there battery info in some /proc/ dir you could monitor and do a lot of what was mentioned above  via a bash script. ;)
[06:45] <histo> phunyguy: it does that in both .04 and .10?
[06:45] <phunyguy> histo: yes it did it in the liveCD
[06:46] <phunyguy> I thought 12.10 was fine because I didnt know that the CPU had to be maxed to reproduce.
[06:46] <phunyguy> histo, try it with CPU maxed.  I installed burn and ran 6 burnP6 processes in tandem to produce a nice load
[06:47] <phunyguy> I could even hear the fan kick up while CPU was at 2.6GHz, then when I unplugged and plugged power back in, I heard the fan speed drop
[06:48] <phunyguy> I am half tempted to try it in 13.04
[06:48] <phunyguy> :)
[06:48] <histo> phunyguy: wow
[06:48] <histo> phunyguy: give me a minute I will try
[06:49] <phunyguy> histo?
[06:49] <phunyguy> ok
[06:49] <histo> phunyguy: need to find a way to max my cpu
[06:50] <thoonai> histo: set the multiplicator in your bios on a higher value and hope that your cpu isnt burning :)
[06:50] <phunyguy> histo, I apt-get installed burn
[06:51] <histo> phunyguy: isn't that a utility for burning cds?
[06:51] <phunyguy> then ran burnP6 & burnP6 & burnP6 & burnP6 & burnP6 & burnP6 &
[06:51] <phunyguy> sorry cpuburn
[06:51] <phunyguy> ewps.
[06:51] <phunyguy> then when finished, killall burnP6
[06:52] <phunyguy> also it took about 6 seconds for the throttle to happen
[06:52] <phunyguy> so give it a minute with the cable plugged back in
[06:53] <phunyguy> while you do that I will boot 13.04
[06:53] <phunyguy> (3.8 kernel I think)
[06:54] <histo> phunyguy: Okay give me steps to recreate I just ran burnP6 while it was running I unplugged power and plugged it back in.
[06:54] <histo> Mine is fine
[06:58] <magn3ts> whatcha guys talking about?
[06:58] <histo> magn3ts: frequency scaling bug phunyguy found
[06:58] <histo> I'm trying to recreate it
[06:59] <magn3ts> ah, I can try to repro f someone wants. I was wondering if you were talking cpu fans on a MBA
[06:59] <histo> phunyguy: I can't recreate it. So what are you doing step by step to recreate it?
[07:01] <phunyguy> histo, max the cpu with it plugged in, then unplug for a few seconds, and plug back in.  wait about 10 seconds, and check the cpufreq-info
[07:01] <histo> phunyguy: yeah can't recreate here
[07:02] <phunyguy> are you fully maxing CPU?
[07:02] <phunyguy> burnP6 is single-threaded
[07:02] <phunyguy> hence why I ran like 6
[07:02] <histo> yeap
[07:02] <phunyguy> and the issue wasn't present in 13.04 either
[07:02] <histo> phunyguy: maxed with 3 of them. here. poopy core 2
[07:02] <histo> phunyguy: it's a bug with just your hardware aparently
[07:02] <phunyguy> hmm.
[07:03] <phunyguy> might be an ivy-bridge bug
[07:03] <histo> phunyguy: something with acpi and your bios.  You maybe able to fix it with a bios upgrade...
[07:03] <phunyguy> it is very possible actually, thanks for the top
[07:03] <phunyguy> tip*
[07:03] <histo> np
[07:03] <magn3ts> phunyguy: which gen is ivy bridge, I may have one
[07:04] <phunyguy> magn3ts: latest I think.  It is this year's Lenovo laptop line
[07:04] <magn3ts> i5-3570K CPU @ 3.40GHz
[07:04] <phunyguy> I have a 3320
[07:04] <magn3ts> yeah, mine's Ivy. You want me to run 4x cpuburn?
[07:04] <phunyguy> magn3ts: laptop?
[07:04] <magn3ts> desktop, I've got this years MBA I can grab if you want me to test it
[07:04] <phunyguy> it is a laptop bug.
[07:04] <magn3ts> I'm on 13.04 / 3.8kernel though
[07:05] <phunyguy> magn3ts: that wont help me
[07:05] <phunyguy> but thanks
[07:05] <magn3ts> phunyguy: okay, even the macbook air?
[07:05] <phunyguy> magn3ts: i just tested in 13.04, the issue isn't present
[07:05] <magn3ts> phunyguy: or oh
[07:05] <magn3ts> okay. well sorry then, best of luck
[07:05] <phunyguy> thanks
[07:08] <histo> phunyguy: They are definately gonig to want your hardware info on the bug then. I can't recreate it.
[07:08] <Aaron> back to Ubuntu, Lovely
[07:08] <Aaron> ;)
[07:08] <Aaron> happy
[07:09] <phunyguy> histo: should already be there.... didn't the ubuntu-bug command grab all that?
[07:09] <histo> phunyguy: what's the bug number?
[07:09] <phunyguy> histo: 1139331
[07:09] <histo> bug 1139331
[07:10] <ntzrmtthihu777> alrighty, in the process of creating a custom iso of ubuntu 12.04 with gnome-shell as the default login, now how do I configure the default de for the live user's login?
[07:10] <phunyguy> wait, confirmed already?
[07:11] <Dr_Willis> ntzrmtthihu777: in the lightdm configuration files i think ntzrmtthihu777
[07:11] <histo> phunyguy: yeah who confirmed it?
[07:11] <silversufer>  Do all Ethernet adapters work with ubuntu? or is there a specific type I should get or you could recommend?
[07:11] <ntzrmtthihu777> ok, where are those located?
[07:11] <phunyguy> histo: Brad Figg
[07:11] <naegling> sigh how do I tell ffmpeg where libfdk-aac.so.0 is?
[07:11] <ntzrmtthihu777> Dr_Willis: you seem to be hugely informative, lol
[07:11] <phunyguy> !hcl | silversufer
[07:12] <Dr_Willis> silversufer: most wired nics should work. id say stick with the bigger name chipsets.
[07:12] <Dr_Willis> silversufer: sime chipsets do have driver bugs.
[07:13] <silversufer> tyvm
[07:13] <histo> phunyguy: do you believe me now that it's the kernel??? lol
[07:13] <phunyguy> histo: yup.
[07:14] <phunyguy> thanks for putting me in my place
[07:14] <histo> phunyguy: I wasn't trying to.
[07:14] <aeon-ltd> silversufer: the chances are someone out there has the same nic and is running/trying to run linux aswell
[07:14] <histo> phunyguy: I just wanted to stay awake to see you discover it for yourself what I told you a long time ago.
[07:14] <Sefid_par> Is libtiff installed on ubuntu by default?
[07:14] <histo> phunyguy: 2.5hours ago...
[07:14] <phunyguy> !info libtiff
[07:14] <histo> goodnight all
[07:14] <phunyguy> night histo
[07:15] <phunyguy> thanks
[07:15] <ntzrmtthihu777> easy to check Sefid_par , try to install. if it doesn't work, its likely there already
[07:16] <Sefid_par> ntzrmtthihu777: I do not know its name exactly
[07:17] <ntzrmtthihu777> ah, gotcha.
[07:17] <Sefid_par> ntzrmtthihu777: Ok. found :P
[07:18] <c2tarun> is it possible to select only temperature from output of sensors in terminal? Till now I am using sensors | grep 'Core 0' so I am getting <Core 0:       +56.0°C  (high = +80.0°C, crit = +90.0°C)>   I wan't only <+56.0C>
[07:20] <beboj> nsudo fdisk -l
[07:20] <iceroot> c2tarun: #bash
[07:21] <Dr_Willis> c2tarun: with some grep or awk ussage  yes
[07:21] <iceroot> c2tarun: i would also say grep + awk
[07:21] <Dr_Willis> awk is amazingly handy
[07:22] <phunyguy> c2tarun: also look into the cut command
[07:22] <Dr_Willis> regular expreszions are a  nuclear powered swiss army knife  also.
[07:23] <phunyguy> syntax: cut -d ',' -f 4 - would be to split by command, and grab 4th entry (IIRC - going from memory)
[07:23] <phunyguy> split by coma****
[07:23] <phunyguy> comma***
[07:23] <phunyguy> WOW.
[07:23]  * c2tarun looking in awk and cut command
[07:23] <phunyguy> need to go to bed.
[07:23] <FloodBot1> phunyguy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:24] <Laogeodritt> c2tarun: sensors | grep 'Core 0' | egrep -? '\d+.\d+°C' might work as a pure-regex solution. I don't remember the flag, it's the one that only prints the matched text to stdout. (That said, I don't know awk, so that might be more useful).
[07:24] <ntzrmtthihu777> erm, again, where are the lightdm files located?
[07:24] <contrapunctus> Say, folks, is there any way I can make my notebook play a sound when the battery reaches a specified level? Also, any way to 1. get the battery level (in percent) and 2. switch between normal/presentation modes using only the terminal? I'm using 12.04, UbuntuStudio (=XFCE).
[07:24] <ntzrmtthihu777> I am in the middle of an apt-get update on the iso, so I can't check it for myself
[07:25] <emzi> I'm going to install z prozila gui: /bin/sh: 2: .././mkinstalldirs: Permission denied
[07:25] <emzi> make[2]: *** [install-data-yes] Error 126
[07:26] <iceroot> ntzrmtthihu777: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5578523/  (12.04)
[07:26] <c2tarun> Laogeodritt, I think there is some minor fault, its not working, did you test in on your machine?
[07:26] <ntzrmtthihu777> thankya, iceroot
[07:27] <Laogeodritt> c2tarun, sorry, I didn't, just threw it out there. (Also the -? was the flag I didn't remember, if that wasn't clear).
[07:27] <Laogeodritt> I'll check it in a sec
[07:27] <Laogeodritt> oh
[07:27] <emzi> I'm going to install a prozila gui: https://github.com/screwgoth/prozilla-dev-2.5 But I get this err when I use "sudo make install"
[07:27] <emzi> /bin/sh: 2: .././mkinstalldirs: Permission denied
[07:27] <emzi> make[2]: *** [install-data-yes] Error 126
[07:27] <c2tarun> Laogeodritt, ohh.. :P I am also chkng
[07:27] <iceroot> emzi: not executable?
[07:28] <Laogeodritt> actually mine might have issues, it'll match several temperature strings... not sure whether grep will only match the first one and leave it at that for the line or not
[07:29] <emzi> iceroot: chmod 777 mkinstalldirs
[07:30] <BlackWeb> I'm looking into writing a shell script, Which I want it to have the ability, So that i can click on any file and run the script, Which my main question is how would I tell the script to process the selected file?
[07:33] <ntzrmtthihu777> is there a terminal command you can run to check what de you are using if you do not already know?
[07:35] <BlackWeb> I think bash
[07:35] <ntzrmtthihu777> what?
[07:35] <iceroot> ntzrmtthihu777: you can have more then one DE but "dpkg -l \*ubuntu-desktop | grep -v ^ii" should show the installed DEs on ubuntu systems
[07:35] <Laogeodritt> c2tarun: sensors | grep 'Core 0' | grep -Po '\+\d+\.\d+°C'
[07:36] <Dr_Willis> BlackWeb:  nautilus has a 'nautilus scripts'  feature you could . setup the script in the right dir.. right click on a file and hsve a scripts ->myscript
[07:36] <Laogeodritt> c2tarun: sorry, I'm too used to using Perl-style regexes =P My solution has the problem that it identifies all three temperatures in your line though
[07:36] <ntzrmtthihu777> yes, I know that iceroot , I just want to get the right name to use
[07:36] <ntzrmtthihu777> gedit
[07:36] <ntzrmtthihu777> dammit lol
[07:36] <Dr_Willis> echo $SHELL    shows your shell
[07:36] <iceroot> ntzrmtthihu777: you mean you want gnome, unity, kde, xfce4, lxde as a name instead of ubuntu-desktop, xubuntu-desktop and so on
[07:36] <emzi> !ping iceroot
[07:37] <BlackWeb> Dr_Willis: If I made say a simple rev script then would the script know the file just by right clicking, "/bin/bash"
[07:37] <ntzrmtthihu777> yes, I got that, but what i mean is I know I want gnome-classic (no effects) but want to make sure I am using the right name for the live cd
[07:38] <bazhang> emzi, no need to use !ping
[07:38] <iceroot> emzi: i dont know the reason
[07:38] <Dr_Willis> BlackWeb:  you want to do somthing to system files and dirs? you would need sudo rights/use gksudo somehow
[07:39] <ntzrmtthihu777> so you need to escape the * in dpkg -l \*ubuntu-desktop | grep -v ^ii ?
[07:40] <BlackWeb> I'll tweak around a little and see if I can figure out, Yea Mainly trying to create a shell script to encrypt & Decrypt files with GPG, Which right now I use just regular shell script where I input the files to process or have the script look for a paticular file in a directory, but mainly was wondering if i was to right click on the file and use the script if the script would automatically know what file i was wanted to work with?
[07:40] <ntzrmtthihu777> interesting idea, BlackWeb
[07:40] <iceroot> ntzrmtthihu777: yes because you want that dpkg is working with the * not the bash but bash would try to replace the * first before it will deliver the string to dpkg
[07:41] <Dr_Willis> BlackWeb:  check the nautilus scripts guides.. it sets some $filename type variables
[07:41] <ntzrmtthihu777> gotcha
[07:41] <Dr_Willis> the 'nautilus scripts' feature gets overlooked too much. its such a nifty feature
[07:42] <ntzrmtthihu777> damn this is taking forever, lol.
[07:42] <ntzrmtthihu777> I should like to learn about using nautilus scripts
[07:42] <BlackWeb> Alright I'll browse through it and see if I can figure it out, thanks Dr_Willis
[07:44] <ntzrmtthihu777> about how much do you think an ubuntu 12.04 install grows with that first apt-get update ?
[07:45] <ntzrmtthihu777> I like that, lol. good reference
[07:51] <iceroot> ntzrmtthihu777: apt-get update will not change anything on your system, it will just update the package lists
[07:51] <ntzrmtthihu777> derp, lol. apt-get upgrade I mean.
[07:52] <l057c0d3r> and whats wrong with an apt-get dist-upgrade :-p
[07:52] <l057c0d3r> besides it will remove and install new packages some times
[07:52] <l057c0d3r> --- is not happy with gnome-screensaver at the moment..
[07:53] <l057c0d3r> gave up on it and disabled locking on this system..  system works just fine...  until it locks.. then computer coma
[07:53] <contrapunctus> Isn't apt-get upgrade evil?
[07:53] <contrapunctus> *supposed to be evil
[07:54] <l057c0d3r> but suspend.. hibernate..  blanking of screen work fine...
[07:54] <iceroot> ntzrmtthihu777: you want "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" to get the latest security fixes and not apt-get upgrade
[07:54] <l057c0d3r> sigh..  oh gnome what are you people doing to your desktop environment
[07:54] <l057c0d3r> i myself always run dist-upgrade..  rather then just upgrade
[07:54] <ntzrmtthihu777> not that I am aware of. oh really? thanks for the info, iceroot
[07:54] <l057c0d3r> but always have
[07:54] <contrapunctus> 1056c0d34 - tried xscreensaver?
[07:55] <l057c0d3r> contrapunctus, been thinking about it
[07:55] <contrapunctus> Is there any way I can make my notebook play a sound when the battery reaches a specified level? Also, any way to 1. get the battery level (in percent) and 2. switch between normal/presentation modes using only the terminal? I'm using 12.04, UbuntuStudio (=XFCE).
[07:55] <l057c0d3r> have it on my other desktop that has lxde on it (poor old system)
[07:55] <SwedeMike> contrapunctus: $ acpi
[07:55] <SwedeMike> Battery 0: Discharging, 46%, 02:57:41 remaining
[07:55] <ntzrmtthihu777> should be doable, contrapunctus . interesting idea for a conky item...
[07:55] <contrapunctus> SwedeMike - Don't have acpi o.o
[07:56] <l057c0d3r> not sure contrapunctus I know when my battery gets low.. ( by going into alsamixer from term  and turning vol up on been....) my system starts beeping at me
[07:56] <SwedeMike> contrapunctus: you don't have the program or your latop/battery doesn't support acpi?
[07:57] <contrapunctus> I don't have the program
[07:57] <SwedeMike> contrapunctus: install it then.
[07:57] <contrapunctus> Was hoping to achieve it with what's available o.o
[07:57] <SwedeMike> contrapunctus: I didn't have it either, took 3 seconds to install it."apt-get install acpi"
[07:58] <ejv> In theory, you "could" cron a script that asks ACPI for it's discharge level; if <= $DESIRED_LEVEL trigger ALSA to output entropy from /dev/urandom; enjoy the music ;)
[07:59] <contrapunctus> Installing...I'm rather hesitant to install new stuff...pro audio rig, don't want anything to break
[07:59] <SwedeMike> ejv: or just run mplayer or something else.
[07:59] <l057c0d3r> oh just great..  hit exit on steam..  it went into notification area.. and now i cant get it to come back.. but its still in notification..  sigh..  kde i might be coming your way soon.. gnome has me at my wits end
[07:59] <ejv> uhh... we're geeks, we like our entropy. :)
[07:59] <contrapunctus> entropy?
[07:59] <ejv> you could also use 'aplay' to pipe music from /dev/random as well haha
[08:00] <ejv> poor man's ubuntu signaler
[08:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> hmm, ok, the default session is gnome-shell; how would you do the no-effect version?
[08:00] <contrapunctus> 1057c0d3r - XFCE?
[08:01] <ntzrmtthihu777> lol, unless you are into Dubstep you will not like the sound of /dev/random or urandom lol
[08:01] <contrapunctus> ejv...no scripting experience here, how could I make this script?
[08:02] <ejv> sorry contrapunctus, I'm assuming a basic level of scripting experience to implement that; I would man aplay, man cron, man <whatever-you-dont-understand>, etc.
[08:02] <SwedeMike> contrapunctus: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/28037/
[08:02] <ejv> or yea... gewgle
[08:02] <contrapunctus> *DDG
[08:03] <SwedeMike> contrapunctus: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/39435
[08:04] <ejv> If we're being creative you could also hook ACPI to libnotify; i despise audio alerts personally.
[08:04] <ntzrmtthihu777> lol, just get it into conky, show the % as a bar
[08:05] <helmut_> hi
[08:07] <magn3ts> I was using something the other day that had neither a man or info page
[08:07] <magn3ts> or a '-h'
[08:08] <magn3ts>  very irritating, I can't remember what it was though
[08:08] <ntzrmtthihu777> damn that's rare
[08:08] <magn3ts> yeah, I know
[08:08] <b-ot> wat
[08:08] <magn3ts> It was a weird sense of ... "oh ... 'crap'!"
[08:08] <ntzrmtthihu777> shit I need to get this right. anyone know the right lightdm value for gnome-shell no effects?
[08:10] <b-ot> wat
[08:12] <ntzrmtthihu777> nvm, found it b-ot
[08:15] <grime> hhmmm
[08:18] <Tamago-chan> hello, anyone alive?
[08:18] <grime> yeah
[08:19] <Tamago-chan> i'm trying to follow a tutorial and i'm a bit stuck
[08:19] <sunsetlover> hey every one, please any one know an application like itunes to manage apple devices ?
[08:19] <grime> Tamago-chan, what is it exactly?
[08:19] <Tamago-chan> http://jacqueswoodcock.tumblr.com/post/37736524399/apache-ubuntu-compiling-php-5-4-and-networking-vms
[08:19] <bazhang> sunsetlover, sync music?
[08:20] <Tamago-chan> there's a part
[08:20] <grime> sunsetlover, what gen ipod is it
[08:20] <Tamago-chan> it says ./configure \
[08:20] <Tamago-chan> and below a bunch of lines
[08:20] <Tamago-chan> but they don't work
[08:21] <Tamago-chan> it says no such file or directory
[08:21] <grime> Tamago-chan, hold on let me read it real quick
[08:21] <sunsetlover> grime, it is ipod4
[08:21] <Tamago-chan> okay
[08:21] <grime> sunsetlover, have you tried gtkpod?
[08:22] <grime> Tamago-chan,  what have you tried?
[08:23] <Tamago-chan> well, i'm new to linux and ubuntu, so i don't really know what i'm doing hehe
[08:23] <Tamago-chan> i'm actually just coyp pasting those commands
[08:23] <grime> Tamago-chan, go to the directory where all the files are and run sudo ./configure
[08:23] <sunsetlover> no, i'm new in ubuntu so i don't know much about it
[08:23] <Extreme> Hi, how can I create an Ubuntu Repository like this: http://goo.gl/oQ3c5 ?
[08:24] <Extreme> I've read some documentation on the Ubuntu website, but it talks about adding a local repository.
[08:24] <grime> sunsetlover, check in the software center type it in at the top
[08:24] <Tamago-chan> but i'm supposedly in the directory i'm supposed to be, let me check though
[08:24] <sunsetlover> grime, ok i'll try it and get back to you
[08:24] <grime> Tamago-chan, then just run sudo ./configure
[08:25] <Tamago-chan> i did
[08:25] <Tamago-chan> but then i don't know how to make the commans bellow work
[08:25] <Tamago-chan> like —with-libdir=lib64 \
[08:25] <grime> sunsetlover, ok let me know how it goes
[08:26] <Tamago-chan> oh wait..
[08:26] <pierreN> hi
[08:26] <grime> Tamago-chan, thats only if you want those specifically running ./configure basicly runs all of them
[08:26] <Tamago-chan> ooh i see
[08:26] <Tamago-chan> what does the \ at the end do?
[08:27] <grime> Exteme, sorry i dont know much on that, idk who else is on
[08:27] <RobbieCrash> I've got an Ubuntu VPS, and have limited hard drive space. I want to backup 6GB of data to a remote server, but I only have 3GB of space locally. What's the best way to do this?
[08:27] <CallingPanther> That is just the symbol for  "command carried over to next line
[08:28] <magn3ts> RobbieCrash: rsync?
[08:28] <michael_p> hi all
[08:28] <magn3ts> RobbieCrash: define "best"? Fastest? Most b/w efficient? etc?
[08:28] <RobbieCrash> blergh, rsync isn't so good on OpenIndiana.
[08:28] <Tamago-chan> oh i see
[08:28] <ejv> sunsetlover: banshee support ipods, look into that
[08:28] <grime> Tamago-chan, thats only if your gonna pick a packet specifically like the list they give you, unless you want to do that just run ./configure without it
[08:28] <RobbieCrash> best, as in what are my real options?
[08:28] <pierreN> i'm trying to follow instruction in that script: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/29347181/rfkill.sh i changed both instance of USER NAME to my user name and set the right path to the script. however when i try do a sudo afterwards, i get that i didn't put any valid syntax (i have to reboot on an usb key to change the sudo file...) anybody has a clue please ?
[08:28] <Tamago-chan> thanks grime and CallingPanther
[08:29] <CallingPanther> Tamago-chan: NP
[08:29] <magn3ts> RobbieCrash: I guess scp or rsync, Idk what else I'd recommend for a one time back up
[08:29] <magn3ts> or even for a repeated cumulative backup
[08:29] <RobbieCrash> cool, thanks
[08:29] <grime> Tamago-change, no worries
[08:29] <magn3ts> sure.
[08:29] <grime> Tamago-chan, haha lol
[08:30] <Tamago-chan> :P
[08:30] <grime> michael_p, hello
[08:30] <grime> Tamago-chan so did you finish your installation? is everything cool
[08:31] <rakesh__> yes
[08:31] <rakesh__> it is
[08:31] <Tamago-chan> not done yet
[08:31] <rakesh__> and wats up
[08:31] <michael_p> just using kde
[08:31] <Tamago-chan> it says to do "make && make install" but i have no make so i'm installing it :P
[08:31] <magn3ts> michael_p: I am as well.
[08:31] <magn3ts> Tamago-chan: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:31] <magn3ts> will save you a fraction of time
[08:31] <CallingPanther> Tamago: what are you installing?
[08:31] <magn3ts> :P
[08:32] <CallingPanther> Sorry I just got here
[08:32] <pierreN> anyone has a clue please ? :)
[08:32] <Tamago-chan> thanks magn3ts
[08:32] <grime> michael_p, using gnoome-panel
[08:32] <rakesh__> wat clue
[08:32] <Tamago-chan> i'm following a tutorial CallingPanther
[08:32] <Tamago-chan> i -think- i'm installing PHP right now
[08:33] <sunsetlover> grime, ejv, thank you for your help
[08:33] <AcidRain> i get this error after upgrade: libxml-libxml-perl: Depends: perl (>= 5.10.0-24ubuntu4) but 5.14.2-6ubuntu2.2 is installed
[08:33] <AcidRain> it wont let me install the needed package
[08:34] <AcidRain> says to do it i must uninstall 71packages
[08:34] <magn3ts> whoa whoa whoa
[08:34] <magn3ts> you don't need to make or make install anything to get php
[08:34] <magn3ts> Tamago-chan: ^
[08:34] <magn3ts> Tamago-chan: `sudo apt-get install php5%"
[08:34] <magn3ts> Tamago-chan: `sudo apt-get install php5`, rather, sorry.
[08:34] <CallingPanther> why from source? Just for the learning experience?
[08:34] <sunsetlover> regarding android devices do you know any app can make backup and restore also managing files on it
[08:34] <grime> sunsetlover, try it out i know there others you can try too in case it doesnt work or something
[08:34] <c2tarun> can anyone please help me in getting a calendar in conky, I google a lot, but not able to find anything.
[08:34] <Tamago-chan> i'm actually just following the tutorial :P
[08:35] <Dr_Willis> sunsetlover:  theres numerous backup apps to backup your phone
[08:35] <grime> pierreN, what are you trying to do?
[08:35] <magn3ts> Tamago-chan: post tutorial please, why are you trying to install php?
[08:35] <Dr_Willis> c2tarun:  simple way.. maye it show the output of the 'cal' command
[08:35] <magn3ts> Tamago-chan: or link to the tutorial. You can install php5 in a single command: `sudo apt-get install php5`
[08:35] <Tamago-chan> http://jacqueswoodcock.tumblr.com/post/37736524399/apache-ubuntu-compiling-php-5-4-and-networking-vms
[08:35] <CallingPanther> If you are using Ubuntu do what magn3ts said its easier
[08:35] <ntzrmtthihu777> whoo doggy, I have gained a new respect for the folks making remastered ubuntu cds
[08:36] <grime> c2tarun, what are you running?
[08:36] <magn3ts> Tamago-chan: WEIRD. Honestly, don't do that.
[08:36] <c2tarun> grime, Ubuntu 12.04.2
[08:36] <pierreN> grime: i'm trying to follow instruction in that script: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/29347181/rfkill.sh i changed both instance of USER NAME to my user name and set the right path to the script. however when i try do a sudo afterwards, i get that i didn't put any valid syntax (i have to reboot on an usb key to change the sudo file...) anybody has a clue please ?
[08:36] <AcidRain> anyone can fix?
[08:36] <AcidRain> libxml-libxml-perl: Depends: perl (>= 5.10.0-24ubuntu4) but 5.14.2-6ubuntu2.2 is installed
[08:36] <magn3ts> Tamago-chan: I mean, if you WANT to compile from source, you can, but there is NO reason for you to do so.
[08:36] <Tamago-chan> to be honest, of all the things i've done today, this is the easiest so far
[08:36] <ntzrmtthihu777> sounds like an error, AcidRain . why would never mind,misread
[08:36] <grime> pierreN, yes but why are you running the script? for wifi?
[08:36] <magn3ts> Well, it's not hard, but it's cleaner to have apt manage it for you
[08:37] <Tamago-chan> probably
[08:37] <magn3ts> Tamago-chan: ^ and then you get auto-updates, etc, security patches, that stuff. Otherwise you have to check every so often and make sure it's up to date
[08:37] <Tamago-chan> well, i'm learning a lot so i guess it's ok :P
[08:37] <grime> c2tarun, so your using openbox on ubuntu? crazy stuff.....have you checked the conky wiki
[08:37] <magn3ts> Plus, pretty much every other guide is likely to expect a normally installed apt version. (That shouldn't matter, but stuff gets screwy sometimes)
[08:38] <Tamago-chan> hmm i see
[08:38] <c2tarun> grime, nope  I am not using openbox on ubuntu, I guess its still default windows manager.
[08:38] <ntzrmtthihu777> true dat, magn3ts . I use the webupd8 java7 ppa to keep my java up to date easily
[08:38] <c2tarun> also I am on Ubuntu 2D
[08:38] <Tamago-chan> if i do apt-get install php5 after this, will i have problems?
[08:38] <magn3ts> ntzrmtthihu777: I'd recommend switching to openjdk-7-jre
[08:38] <Dr_Willis> c2tarun:  simple way.. maye it show the output of the 'cal' command in .conkyrc somthing like   'exec cal'
[08:38] <magn3ts> ntzrmtthihu777: it's in the default repos and it works with everything I use including Java IDEs and Minecraft
[08:39] <ntzrmtthihu777> would, but a certain software I use refuses to work with it
[08:39] <c2tarun> Dr_Willis, I tried, its not properly aligned and its also flickering.
[08:39] <grime> c2tarun, Simply edit your .conkyrc file and add the following line: ${font DejaVu Sans Mono :size=8}${exec cal -m | cut -c23-44 --complement}
[08:39] <CallingPanther> Honestly it may fix anything that you accidently broke
[08:39] <Tamago-chan> CallingPanther:  so it's better if i do? :P
[08:39] <Dr_Willis> c2tarun:  flikering is a conky setting to change.. cal alingment. use the cal options to not put the current day in bold.
[08:40] <c2tarun> grime,  nothing is getting displayed
[08:40] <iosona> So, I just accidentl overwrote my .xinitrc with a .xinitrc from another partition housing another distro. Is there anyway I can find the default xinitrc for 12.04.2?
[08:40]  * c2tarun trying Dr_Willis advice
[08:40] <pierreN> grime: yes.
[08:40] <ntzrmtthihu777> loop mount the iso
[08:41] <CallingPanther> Probably, that's one of the things that makes ubuntu so user friendly, they have apt repositories for almost eveything
[08:41] <grime> c2tarun, install gcal unless you have it already
[08:41] <naegling> iosona: make sure you don't already have the old one in the folder with an ls -a first
[08:41] <naegling> awww
[08:41] <naegling> impatience
[08:41] <ntzrmtthihu777> sumna beech lol, takes forever to rebuild squashfs
[08:41] <Dr_Willis> c2tarun:  it will need a monospaced font also i imagine. i did a sim ple conky calaner this way once ages ago
[08:41] <Tamago-chan> will something bad happen if i stop this make mid way? it's taking forever >_<
[08:41] <grime> c2tarun, then add the New line for conkyrc;  ${font DejaVu Sans Mono :size=8}${exec gcal --starting-day=monday | cut -c23-44 --complement}
[08:42] <c2tarun> Dr_Willis, is working fine now, I tried cal -h with arial font..
[08:42] <c2tarun> grime, trying gcal now
[08:42] <iosona> what should I put in xinitrc if I want it to launch unity? exec unity?
[08:42] <ntzrmtthihu777> yeah, the apt-lock may not lift and you will be stuck out for a bit, Little-Egg
[08:42] <grime> pierreN, so your trying to set up your wifi then?
[08:43] <grime> c2tarun, i havent messed with conky too much just alittle
[08:44] <Dr_Willis> iosona:  check what the ubuntu.desktop file runs for its session - if you want the full unity desktop
[08:44] <ntzrmtthihu777> yeah, same here. just modified the default Pinguy OS conky to reflect my unique partition, networking, and temp-sensor setup
[08:45] <Guest29007> does anyone know why flash player wont work with xubuntu 12.04
[08:45] <Tamago-chan> ok so i think i have php5 installed properly, how do i check if it's working?
[08:45] <Dr_Willis> c2tarun:  check out    http://helmuthdu.deviantart.com/art/CONKY-COLORS-244793180
[08:45] <sunsetlover> grime, gtkpod works great with my ipod, thank you for your help, but also i need an app to manage my galaxy SIII and to make backup and restore
[08:45] <c2tarun> Dr_Willis, I saw, but conky-colors seems too advanced to me now, and I really wan't to make things work in simple way. I'll look into conky-colors after few days :)
[08:46] <grime> Guest29007, its not supported anymore by adobe
[08:46] <Noobunnyntu> Hello
[08:46] <Dr_Willis> c2tarun:  conkys gaind a lot of new features in the last year or 2.. so theres the old way.. and the new fancy ways. ;)
[08:46] <Guest29007> so should I use an older installation?
[08:47] <CallingPanther> Tamago: you could write a phpinfo page
[08:47] <ntzrmtthihu777> I really don't understand why bash-completion is not enabled by default as root
[08:47] <Tamago-chan> CallingPanther: no easy quick way? :P
[08:47] <c2tarun> Dr_Willis, yeah :) but either its web-development, app development or fiddling with conky :) old-classics are always best to understand
[08:48] <grime> sunsetlover, glad it worked, im looking into the app hold on a sec
[08:48] <CallingPanther> three lines of code ....save as test.php on your server and pull it up in your browser
[08:48] <c2tarun> Dr_Willis, where can I check the available fonts in my system? and get there correct names?
[08:48] <grime> Guest29007, try looking for adobe flash in synaptic
[08:48] <Dr_Willis> ntzrmtthihu777: because you arent ment to directly  login as root. so /root/ dosent have the same. files for bash setup.
[08:49] <CallingPanther> Tamago: are you using GUI or CLI
[08:49] <Dr_Willis> c2tarun: not sure these days. used to use gfontsel
[08:49] <Tamago-chan> uuhm
[08:49] <Tamago-chan> cli is command right?
[08:49] <CallingPanther> right
[08:49] <Tamago-chan> CLI then
[08:49] <CallingPanther> cool
[08:49] <Dr_Willis> command line interface = cli
[08:49] <Guest29007> okay, and then what?
[08:50] <Noobunnyntu> Sorry, does anyone know if there is any Python gui for Ubuntu? Like something that points out your most negligent errors? I feel that just typing into Terminal is bit too hardcore for me. : /
[08:50] <CallingPanther> you know how to use nano?
[08:50] <grime> sunsetlover, check this link out https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=xcxin.filexpert&hl=en
[08:50] <ntzrmtthihu777> lol, actually root does have a .bashrc and a section to uncomment to enable bashcompletion. I just don't get why you would not want a user to at least use the right commands as root instead of a total botch
[08:50] <Tamago-chan> CallingPanther: that's what i use, no idea how vim works
[08:50] <CallingPanther> good
[08:50] <ntzrmtthihu777> yeah, I use nano too, not vim
[08:51] <CallingPanther> open new file
[08:51] <grime> Guest29007 look for the flash plugin from adobe and install it
[08:51] <Tamago-chan> ok
[08:52] <Guest29007> okay im going to test it out now
[08:52] <CallingPanther> line one <?php
[08:52] <Tamago-chan> i see where this is going >_<
[08:52] <CallingPanther> line 2 phpinfo();
[08:52] <CallingPanther> line 3 ?>
[08:52] <Tamago-chan> ok done :P
[08:53] <Tamago-chan> where do i save this?
[08:53] <CallingPanther> save on your server as test.php
[08:53] <CallingPanther> var/www
[08:53] <Tamago-chan> oh ok
[08:53] <ntzrmtthihu777> alrighty, rebuilding the iso, cross ya'lls fingers for me
[08:53] <grime> Guest29007, did it work?
[08:53] <Guest29007> no
[08:54] <Dr_Willis> i saw this same php tutorial on the digitalioceans vps tutorials page.
[08:54] <grime> Guest29007, what browser are you running
[08:54] <ntzrmtthihu777> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[08:54] <Guest29007> firefox
[08:54] <Tamago-chan> CallingPanther: it's working!
[08:54] <Guest29007> okay yeah i will try that i forgot the command
[08:54] <LoneTrooper> get chronium browser its faster
[08:54] <CallingPanther> Yay!!!!
[08:54] <Guest29007> I have that too
[08:55] <LoneTrooper> i mean scrolling is fqster and loading pages
[08:55] <ntzrmtthihu777> LoneTrooper: is it really? does it have an anolog to firefox's addblock?
[08:55] <CallingPanther> now you may aswell install mysql too.....you will end up doing it later anyway
[08:55] <Tamago-chan> CallingPanther: thanks a lot, i have it installed already i think
[08:56] <Guest29007> crap it say permission denied
[08:56] <CallingPanther> oh ok
[08:56] <LoneTrooper> u may have as many web browsers as u want
[08:56] <CallingPanther> Glad to be of help
[08:56] <ntzrmtthihu777> I don't like those names, FloodBot# make me nervious
[08:56] <grime> Guest29007, did you install the plugin for firefox?
[08:57] <ntzrmtthihu777> LoneTrooper: not being critical, geniuinely curious about chromium's performance
[08:57] <Guest29007> yeah i think I may need to reinstall it or something
[08:57] <LoneTrooper> omg why Japanese commercials are being displayed on youtube?
[08:57] <LoneTrooper> oh let me give u a link...
[08:57] <LoneTrooper> http://peacekeeper.futuremark.com/
[08:57] <Dr_Willis> LoneTrooper: are you using tor perhaps?
[08:57] <LoneTrooper> terst your browser here
[08:58] <LoneTrooper> no
[08:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> did you try that flashplugin installer, Guest29007 ?
[08:58] <grime> Guest29007, theres a plug in just for firefox and then the actual adobe installer you gotta have both
[08:58] <LoneTrooper> its wierd as it detect that im asian or something
[08:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> xD 今日は
[08:59] <cave2596__> how can i mark a topic in the ubuntuforums as "solved"?
[09:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> cave2596__: thread tools
[09:00] <LoneTrooper> and type thx lol
[09:00] <grime> cave2596_ check near the top
[09:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> geeze I hate that docky closes each time I upgrade/install packages
[09:01] <cave2596__> in "thread tools" there is no posibillity to mark it as solved
[09:01] <ntzrmtthihu777> hmm, i have not been there since the update, lemme see
[09:01] <c2tarun> can anyone please suggest me a good screenshot app for ubuntu which can directly upload to any imagebin site? Shutter is too heavy.
[09:01] <ntzrmtthihu777> not off hand.
[09:02] <Guest29007> do i get the installer off their website?
[09:02] <ntzrmtthihu777> you should be able to do it via apt-get. what version are you using?
[09:02] <Guest29007> 12.04
[09:02] <Dr_Willis> c2tarun: seen some screen capture indicator applets mentioned at askubuntu.com  webupd8 and omgubuntu blog sites
[09:03] <Guest29007> I installed it using apt-get just right now
[09:03] <erickLee> why do i get "wget: unable to resolve host adress ..."
[09:03] <c2tarun> Dr_Willis, finally conky is more or less how I wanted :) http://imagebin.org/248653  thanks for your help
[09:03] <grime> Guest29007, you could if you want, check synaptic it should be there
[09:03] <Guest29007> i did and i marked it for installation
[09:03] <Guest29007>  then used apt-get
[09:03] <Guest29007> still no dice
[09:03] <grime> Guest29007 did you hit apply
[09:03] <ntzrmtthihu777> c2tarun: that looks pretty nice
[09:04] <c2tarun> ntzrmtthihu777, thanks :)
[09:04] <Guest29007> yeah
[09:04] <ntzrmtthihu777> mine is just a glassy system readout, but it does the trick
[09:04] <Dr_Willis> c2tarun: you spelt calendar  wrong.........   :-P
[09:04] <Dr_Willis> kidding.....
[09:04] <grime> Guest29007 so you have it installed then? the firefox plugin
[09:05] <c2tarun> Loll...zz :) I was actually checking spelling of calendar on Google :P
[09:05] <Guest29007> yessir
[09:05] <grime> Guest29007 still doesnt work?
[09:05] <Guest29007> but i did mess around with something in the mozilla folder
[09:06] <Dr_Willis> you need a calendar  label above the calendar .....
[09:06] <Guest29007> I was going by what someone said on the ubuntu forum
[09:06] <Guest29007>  that may be the problem
[09:06] <c2tarun> Dr_Willis, nope, but it looks uniform, like every module in conky has a label :) so I put it here as well.
[09:06] <grime> Guest29007 did you close and open your browser and tried it?
[09:06] <Guest29007> Yes...
[09:07] <ntzrmtthihu777> alrighty, booting my custom iso in vbox, cross your fingers
[09:07] <grime> Guest29007 can i get the link to the forum you were using
[09:08] <Guest29007> sure np
[09:08] <Guest29007> http://handytutorial.com/install-flash-player-in-ubuntu-12-04/
[09:09] <grime> Guest29007 so you did the manual install
[09:09] <Guest29007> yeah
[09:11] <grime> Guest29007, it might have the sudo chown part could affect it
[09:11] <erickLee> how do i resolve a host adress
[09:12] <Guest29007> Hm..so you think I should remove it and reinstall?
[09:12] <CallingPanther> erickLee: try pinging the address
[09:12] <grime> Guest29007, did you install the ubuntu-restricted extras or the xubuntu?
[09:12] <Guest29007> I downloaded it
[09:13] <Guest29007>  not sure if its installed
[09:13] <erickLee> destination host unreachable
[09:13] <CallingPanther> what is address?
[09:13] <Dr_Willis> downloaded and did what exactly
[09:13] <CallingPanther> let me try
[09:14] <histo> Guest29007: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[09:14] <histo> !extras | Guest29007
[09:14] <histo> no
[09:14] <erickLee> google
[09:15] <grime> Guest29007, try running sudo apt-get install hal
[09:15] <histo> !codecs | Guest29007
[09:15] <histo> erickLee: Which host address? Like local network?
[09:15] <Guest29007> I installed hal already
[09:15] <histo> Guest29007: why did you install hal?
[09:15] <grime> Guest29007, so your running xubuntu or ubuntu
[09:15] <Guest29007> ill tell you if the restricted extras works
[09:15] <erickLee> histo: i've tried ping on server different ip's
[09:15] <Guest29007> xubuntu
[09:16] <CallingPanther> erickLee: could your your DNS server
[09:16] <histo> erickLee: does your /etc/resolv.conf contain nameservers?
[09:16] <grime> Guest29007, ok so the xubuntu-restricted-extras
[09:16] <histo> erickLee: And how are you connected to the internet via cable or wifi; how do you get an IP address DHCP or static?
[09:17] <histo> !info xubuntu-restricted-extras
[09:17] <Guest29007> I installed hal cause on the forum they said it worked for them
[09:17] <grime> histo, woah i didnt know you could do that
[09:18] <erickLee> histo: don't know how to find out. it says i don't have permisson
[09:18] <bekks> Guest29007: What is "it"?
[09:18] <erickLee> histo: when i use sudo it says command not found
[09:18] <grime> !info hal
[09:18] <ntzrmtthihu777> later all
[09:18] <grime> nice
[09:19] <Guest29007> okay so its says i already have the restricted extras installed
[09:19] <grime> histo, thanks for teaching me something new today
[09:20] <histo> !factoids > grime
[09:20] <histo> erickLee: what command are you trying?
[09:20] <histo> erickLee: can you ping 8.8.8.8    ?
[09:21] <Capprentice> Anyone knows how I can Install Nero on Ubuntu 12 ? I know I can use K3b but I really wana try Nero.
[09:21] <LoneTrooper> does anybody knows a way to display a temperature for amd ati graphic card on toolbar in xubuntu?
[09:21] <Capprentice> There is a warning which warns me nero will break the kernel. What does this means ?
[09:21] <CallingPanther> Capprentice: I use Brasero
[09:21] <bekks> Capprentice: When there is a "Nero for Linux", youcould install it. Otherwise, you dont.
[09:22] <erickLee> histo: /etc/resolv.conf, sudo /etc/resolv.config
[09:22] <Capprentice> Nero is available for Ubuntu.
[09:22] <LoneTrooper> i know its easy on kde environment bu t how about xubuntu and xfce
[09:22] <grime> Guest29007, what flashplayer did you download...what version
[09:22] <Capprentice> Im getting a warning. That's what Im concerned about.
[09:22] <Guest29007> 11.2.202.273
[09:22] <histo> erickLee: Yeah that's a file not a command
[09:22] <Dr_Willis> Capprentice: when is the last time nero for linux was updated...
[09:23] <histo> erickLee: ping 8.8.8.8      try that in a terminal
[09:23] <bekks> Capprentice: And we shall guess that warning? :)
[09:23] <histo> Guest29007: ?
[09:23] <erickLee> histo: also tried resolvconf
[09:23] <histo> erickLee: please stop
[09:23] <Capprentice> http://www.nero.com/enu/downloads-linux4-update.php
[09:23] <LoneTrooper> linux being  not important for commercial products as always
[09:23] <Dr_Willis> i dont recall nero-linux working well. or having any featurrs that k3b dident have for free
[09:23] <grime> Guest29007, was that the latest or the one they recommended?
[09:24] <bekks> Capprentice: There is no warning on that page.
[09:24] <Capprentice> bekks. I already put the warning here. Look my prevous message.
[09:24] <LoneTrooper> u can try xfburn
[09:24] <Guest29007> pretty sure its the latest
[09:24] <Capprentice> Warning cames up when I try to install it on Ubuntu 12.
[09:24] <bekks> Capprentice: Basically, I'd use k3b.
[09:24] <Noobunnyntu> Sorry, does anyone know if there is any Python gui for Ubuntu? Like something that points out your most negligent errors? I feel that just typing into Terminal is bit too hardcore for me.
[09:24] <histo> Guest29007: What is it that you are trying to do?
[09:24] <Capprentice> Hey I know. Im using it too. But I want to see how Nero works on Ubuntu.
[09:25] <Ben64> Capprentice: badly
[09:25] <wa5qjh> Hey,  given that migrating a whole lot of data is a major pain in the tush, what is  the most painless way of going from, say 10.4 to 12.10 ?
[09:25] <box1> does anyone know a unity-revamped package for raring ringtail?
[09:25] <Noobunnyntu> Eh, I am not sure yet.
[09:25] <Dr_Willis> Capprentice:  look at the system requirements..
[09:25] <Capprentice> If you are taking abt IDE then SPE IDE is good.
[09:25] <Noobunnyntu> I just wan to learn python.
[09:25] <box1> i absolutely cannot stand the fact that unity won't minimize from launcher
[09:25] <box1> it grates on my nerves
[09:25] <Dr_Willis> Capprentice: that app seems to be several years old.
[09:25] <grime> Guest29007 try this http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/otherversions/
[09:26] <bekks> Dr_Willis: In fact, it is. :)
[09:26] <histo> Capprentice: You're asking for hellp with closed source software in a Ubuntu support channel you realize that right?
[09:26] <LoneTrooper> latest version of nero linux is 4.0.0.0b and it was released in 13.01.2011
[09:26] <heraclitis> LoneTrooper, you can try this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=886264
[09:26] <LoneTrooper> we can do noting about it
[09:26] <Ben64> Supported Distributions ----    Ubuntu 7.04
[09:26] <Dr_Willis> box1:  theres unofficial variants that can
[09:26] <Ben64> yeah, don't even try
[09:26] <Guest29007> okay..
[09:26] <Capprentice> I thouht this is a channel where I can talk anything about Ubuntu. Who are you atcually ? Are you moderator or something ?!
[09:26] <histo> !who | Guest29007
[09:26] <bekks> LoneTrooper: Latest version is supporting Ubuntu 7 - thats 2007, not 2011 :)
[09:26] <LoneTrooper> thx heraclitis forr a help
[09:27] <box1> Dr_Willis: I was hoping that unity-revamped package that every one seems to be talking about... the hacked unity that has all the intuitive features that stubborn and illogical devs seem to have rejected
[09:27] <Dr_Willis> Ben64:  look at the troubleshooting questions... ;-)
[09:27] <ankr> Does anyone know of a tool that will show a keyboard on the screen and highlight the keys on it according to what I am typing on the physical keyboard? I want to do a screen cast, and it would be handy if the user could see what I am actually typing (like shortcuts etc).
[09:27] <box1> seems to be only for version 12 and not 13
[09:27] <heraclitis> LoneTrooper, I don't know if it'll work. Let me know
[09:27] <Guest73905> Hi
[09:27] <LoneTrooper> duh thx for info bekks
[09:27] <LoneTrooper> k k let me check what they wrote there
[09:27] <Ben64> Capprentice: this is for ubuntu support, not for any chat relating to ubuntu. there are rules here, including but not limited to supporting packages in the official repositories only
[09:27] <Dr_Willis> box1: i dont use the hacked one. so no idea.
[09:27] <Guest29007> hista: sorry i'm new to ubuntu and never used an IRC channel
[09:27] <box1> Dr_Willis: thanks for the attention anyway.
[09:28] <Capprentice> K git it. Leaving.
[09:28] <wa5qjh> any recomendations short of a "clean install "  ?
[09:28] <histo> ankr: did a quicksearch keyboardcast  ??
[09:28] <Ben64> was i too mean?
[09:28] <grime> Guest29007, did it open it with apt?
[09:28] <box1> https://launchpad.net/~ikarosdev/+archive/unity-revamped
[09:28] <box1> that's the one I'm talking about but it snot for raring
[09:28] <histo> CallingPanther: You just have to find support for nero for linux
[09:28] <Dr_Willis> box1:  but i thought i saw it for 13.04 at omgubuntu or webupd8
[09:28] <Ben64> histo: i made him leave :(
[09:28] <bazhang> histo, he's gone
[09:28] <box1> Dr that is for dodged windows
[09:28] <histo> Ben64: short people.....
[09:28] <bekks> Ben64: You just told him the truth.
[09:28] <Guest29007> grime no nothing happend
[09:29] <Dr_Willis> 'he cant handle the truth'
[09:29] <histo> Ben64: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NvgLkuEtkA
[09:29] <Tex_Nick> could someone give me a basic differentiation between compiz, mutter & metacity ... is mutter &/or metacity reliant on compiz or are the three independent entities
[09:29] <Ben64> i should have thrown #ubuntu-offtopic in there somewhere
[09:29] <histo> Ben64: I wouldn't worry about it.
[09:29] <Dr_Willis> Tex_Nick:  metacity is the old gnome wm.. mutter has replaced it in 2d unity/fallback
[09:29] <grime> Guest29007 normally when you download it it opens up in the software center and you can install from there
[09:30] <LoneTrooper> hm i was tryin to get that xfce4-xfapplet-plugin to make gnome plugins working but i had some dependencies errors
[09:30] <Dr_Willis> compiz replaces both and has the sexy eyecandies
[09:30] <LoneTrooper> maybe i should this time
[09:30] <Guest29007> grime there is no download on that page
[09:30] <SAngeli> in order to have running phpmyadmin, I noticed that if I let the system istall it it does not install the latest version. So, I decided to download it manually and place it inside /var/www.  In order to properly run phpmyadmin do I need to install any other application or is it just fine to download and run it via web?
[09:30] <histo> Guest29007: If you are trying to install flash...  sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[09:31] <ankr> histo, hmm it's no quite what I'm looking for, but maybe I can use it to send keystrokes to two windows and then make the key-highlighting myself. Thanks :)
[09:31] <histo> SAngeli: Did it come with directions on how to install it?
[09:31] <Guest29007> histo Trust me I've tried that and installed it...still not working
[09:31] <Tex_Nick> Dr_Willis : thanks man :)
[09:31] <histo> ankr: I've seen other peopple using them in videos. Let me see what I can find
[09:32] <grime> Guest29007 there should be.....pick your os then pick apt and hit the download button
[09:32] <bekks> SAngeli: You need an apache webserver, and a pretty fullblown php installation, working with your apache. And mysql, of course.
[09:32] <histo> Guest29007: what does the about:plugins page show after you restart your browser
[09:32] <SAngeli> histo, not really that I know. I did not look nor know where to. I know that it runs fine, but I just wish to make sure and am asking to someone who has already tried it this way.
[09:32] <SAngeli> histo, bekks sorry: I forgot to mention LAMP is already installed
[09:32] <ankr> histo, I appreciate - I'll also go searching myself ;)
[09:33] <Ben64> SAngeli: phpmyadmin is all php, so you can put it anywhere web accessible
[09:33] <histo> SAngeli: Is there A reason for the upgrade?
[09:33] <SAngeli> histo, just to have the latest version. nothing else.
[09:33] <Guest29007> grime nvm i got it
[09:33] <SAngeli> Ben64, thank you.
[09:33] <histo> SAngeli: http://docs.phpmyadmin.net/en/latest/setup.html
[09:33] <Guest29007> grime which shpuld I pick?
[09:34] <grime> Guest29007, linux 32 bit then ubuntu apt
[09:34] <histo> Ben64: you still have to set it up
[09:34] <Ben64> histo: well yeah
[09:34] <histo> Needs access to mysql etc... blah
[09:34] <SAngeli> histo, excellent. Thank you for this. I will read it carefully.
[09:34] <Ben64> grime, Guest29007: why downloading from website?
[09:35] <Guest29007> histo its shows flash plyer and splash plugin
[09:35] <histo> ankr: Key status Monitor
[09:35] <grime> Ben64, long story
[09:35] <histo> Guest29007: what's not working then?
[09:36] <ankr> histo, seems to be exactly what I am looking for, thanks alot!
[09:36] <histo> ankr: key-mon
[09:36] <histo> ankr: is the package name
[09:37] <grime> Ben64, everything is installed but still it doest work
[09:37] <heraclitis> is it still true that libdvdcss is an illegal hack according to the dmca?
[09:37] <Ben64> grime: but flash is a big potential vulnerability, and installing that way skips security updates
[09:37] <histo> ankr: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=screencast+keyboard+linux is how I found it if you are interested
[09:37] <Ben64> heraclitis: probably
[09:38] <ankr> histo, thanks again :)
[09:38] <heraclitis> Ben64, that's just stupid. I use it, and if that makes me a criminal, so be it.
[09:38] <histo> heraclitis: or don't buy dvds
[09:38] <grime> Ben64, true very true..................the synaptic packaged is installed im not sure why it doesnt work
[09:40] <histo> heraclitis: https://www.videolan.org/legal.html there is a section on libdvdcss
[09:41] <Guest21489> Hey this is guest 29007
[09:42] <Guest21489> grime my comp froze
[09:43] <grime> Guest21489, so still no avail? idk if what you did earlier by with the name changed affected the flash
[09:43] <DylanCl> Hello, I'm Dylan. I screwed up good, let me explain what happend. I was using windows for a long time, got a blue screen of death. I smashed my screen, but luckely I had the chance to dualboot ubuntu. Now, is it possible to get windows back on ubuntu? I have a windows 7 disk. Thanks in advance.
[09:43] <bekks> DylanCl: Just install Windows as usual. You may have to repartition before.
[09:43] <histo> DylanCl: You want to install windows7 dualboot with ubuntu?
[09:43] <grime> Guest21489, try restarting X
[09:43] <Guest21489> grime: yeah I think I downloaded the wrong one
[09:43] <heraclitis> histo: thank you.
[09:44] <DylanCl> Well, I want to remove ubuntu and windows, and then only install windows
[09:44] <DylanCl> Because ubuntu tells me I only have 400MB space left
[09:44] <DylanCl> and I think that is because I still have windows on
[09:44] <Guest21489> grime: i'm going to remove and reinstall the one you recommended
[09:45] <DylanCl> Is that possible? I don't know
[09:45] <grime> Guest21489, but if you checked your about:plugins and if flash was listed then that means you have it it might not be the right one since you downloaded 11.2 something
[09:46] <grime> Guest21489, from what i know adobe dropped support for linux...im using adobe flash 10 not 11 but thats just me
[09:46] <Dr_Willis> if you got windows installles you can just remove ubuntu DylanCl
[09:47] <Ben64> grime: upgrade!
[09:47] <DylanCl> Windows gives me a blue screen of death
[09:47] <DylanCl> and with a cracked screen, I can't do system recovery
[09:47] <histo> DylanCl: So you no longer want ubuntu on your hard drive?
[09:47] <DylanCl> I kinda only want ubuntu
[09:47] <DylanCl> Because so far, I have no problems with it
[09:48]  * Dr_Willis is cobfused then
[09:48] <bekks> DylanCl: Then why do you want windows?
[09:48] <Guest21489> grime well i gtg thanks for trying to help
[09:48] <histo> DylanCl: What is your native language?
[09:48] <DylanCl> Dutch
[09:48] <grime> Ben64, to 11? what version tho
[09:48] <DylanCl> Hmm
[09:48] <DylanCl> I think I explained it wrong
[09:48] <DylanCl> Sorry for that
[09:48] <Dr_Willis> so.. how  did you install ubunti DylanCl
[09:48] <Ben64> grime: use the repository, latest is 11.2.202.273
[09:48] <DylanCl> the windows installer
[09:48] <DylanCl> installed it before the blue screen of death
[09:49] <bekks> DylanCl: Thats wubi then. You cant get rif of Windows then.
[09:49] <Dr_Willis> DylanCl:  amazed that it still works..
[09:49] <bekks> *rid
[09:49] <histo> Dr_Willis: why it boots ubuntu still
[09:49] <bekks> Dr_Willis: It needs a working windowds bootloader.
[09:49] <histo> Dr_Willis: independant of windows
[09:49] <Ben64> DylanCl: if you want only ubuntu, the best way would be to get a new ubuntu cd/dvd/usb and install ubuntu fresh
[09:49] <histo> The bootloader is the only thing it's using
[09:49] <DylanCl> hmm, ok.
[09:49] <Dr_Willis> DylanCl: anything on your windows or ubuntu install you want to keep?
[09:49] <grime> Ben64, i dont really care.....im not really big on it....what i need is wine to improve
[09:50] <DylanCl> Another question, is it possible to remove everything on my ubuntu OS
[09:50] <Ben64> grime: but theres big security problems in your version, and why wine?
[09:50] <histo> DylanCl: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MigrateWubi
[09:50] <DylanCl> On windows, not really, neither on ubuntu
[09:51] <Dr_Willis> DylanCl:  id make a ubuntu live cd or flash and just reinstall then
[09:51] <grime> Ben64 i need to run Ableton and other DAW's for music production,, i dont want to use windows but wine doesnt handle it that well
[09:51] <DylanCl> Hmm
[09:51] <DylanCl> If I install 12.10 will it overwrite 12.04?
[09:52] <Ben64> DylanCl: you can choose to do that
[09:52] <grime> Ben64, oh wait i think i am running the latest, im using chrome not firefox and its built in hahaha
[09:52] <histo> grime: What version of ubuntu are you running?
[09:52] <CallingPanther> Sorry guys had router issue....are we still on the nero topic?
[09:52] <DylanCl> I'll try that
[09:52] <DylanCl> So
[09:52] <Ben64> CallingPanther: you missed it by like 25 mins
[09:53] <CallingPanther> had to fix my router.....
[09:53] <DylanCl> I'm not sure how to do this
[09:53] <DylanCl> First do everything Wubi related
[09:53] <CallingPanther> So did they get it working or not?
[09:53] <DylanCl> and then get the disk?
[09:53] <Dulcin> Hi, I have ubuntu 12.04 with gnome shell installed, but everytime I boot up: either characters are missing and when I open the gnome shell launcher the background with look distorted. It's fixed when I reload gnome shell by running alt+f2 and input 'r' - but I want to have a permanent fix for this
[09:54] <Ben64> CallingPanther: no, i made them mad and they left
[09:54] <Dulcin> does anyone know what could be wrong?
[09:54] <CallingPanther> lol
[09:54] <Ben64> DylanCl: you can use ubuntu to make an ubuntu usb, then install from it
[09:54] <grime> histo 12.04
[09:54] <DylanCl> and do I still need to use wubi then?
[09:54] <viderbit> http://thecodinglove.com/post/43481655487/when-after-a-big-update-i-test-the-new-site-with-ie Is this actually true?
[09:55] <Ben64> DylanCl: nope
[09:55] <histo> grime: You can install wine from PPA if you need a newer version.
[09:55] <histo> DylanCl: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MigrateWubi
[09:55] <DylanCl> I already am on that page
[09:55] <histo> DylanCl: or install new
[09:55] <histo> DylanCl: those are your options
[09:55] <Ben64> viderbit: uh, don't post irrelevant blogs in here please
[09:56] <DylanCl> So, just install ubuntu 12.10 on an usb
[09:56] <DylanCl> and then what? (sorry for all the questions, pretty new to ubuntu)
[09:56] <grime> histo i have the recent one but it still not good enough....too much latency....but it i run it in windows works great....same computer
[09:56] <Ben64> DylanCl: not install on usb, but put the installer on it. either using unetbootin or by imaging the iso to the drive
[09:56] <DylanCl> ok
[09:57] <histo> grime: You can't find an opensource application to accomplish the same thing?
[09:58] <vedic> Hi I have taken static ip from my ISP which is connected to my remote pc via DLink Router. How can I configure to access server running on my remote PC?
[09:58] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[09:58] <Dr_Willis> vedic:  set up port forwarding on the router
[09:58] <DylanCl> Ben64, I'm installing the iso right now
[09:58] <vedic> Dr_Willis: I don't have port forwarding on this router. But I do have Routing option
[09:58] <ShapeShifter499> in case someone knows an answer here is my question post http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2121506  (duplicate here http://askubuntu.com/questions/262911/how-do-i-force-ubuntu-router-to-send-all-data-through-tor-and-vpn-for-anonymity)
[09:59] <grime> histo yeah i was using ardour but the audio quality isnt the same....so far thats the only one that comes close
[09:59] <vedic> Routing -> [Default Gateway, Static Routing, Policy Routing, RIP]
[09:59] <Dr_Willis> vedic:  id double check that.. ive seen very few (ok none) routers that cant do port forwarding..
[09:59] <Dr_Willis> vedic:  theres a port forwarding web site with all sorts of guides
[10:00] <Dr_Willis> vedic:  or put the pc in the 'dmz' of the router. but thats not as secure
[10:00] <DylanCl> Well Ben64, I can't install the iso
[10:00] <grime> histo im looking for an older version of ableton to run with wine so i can still run linux without having any attachment with windows
[10:00] <DylanCl> because I don't have the disk space for it
[10:00] <DylanCl> and I don't know what to delete
[10:00] <Dr_Willis> DylanCl:  start with apt-get clean
[10:01] <Dr_Willis> DylanCl:  start with 'sudo apt-get clean'  command in a terminal
[10:01] <CallingPanther> Too bad that person with Nero problem let I got it working fine.....LOL
[10:01] <Ben64> DylanCl: do you have another usb drive or something
[10:01] <Dr_Willis> DylanCl:  you could save the iso to the windows drive also...
[10:01] <Ben64> CallingPanther: its not supported in this channel anyway :) plus its 5 years old and not as cool as k3b
[10:01] <DylanCl>  apt-get clean
[10:01] <DylanCl> E: Could not open lock file /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (13: Permission denied)
[10:01] <DylanCl> E: Unable to lock the download directory
[10:01] <grime> histo on a side note do you know how i would port ubuntu to say a diff architecture like ppc
[10:01] <Dr_Willis> CallingPanther:  does it have any actual features... ;)
[10:01] <DylanCl> I have a 2 gb USB
[10:02] <CallingPanther> The site I followed was from 2011
[10:02] <histo> grime: what does ableton do?
[10:02] <Ben64> grime: google is your friend :P https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCDownloads/
[10:02] <Dr_Willis> DylanCl:  use sudo with the command.. and your windows install is on a bigger hd.. you could download the iso to that partition.. if your wubi install is too small
[10:02] <CallingPanther> Ahhh it is a demo version now that I double checked
[10:03] <Dr_Willis> CallingPanther:  heh. it was so hyped when it came out... and such a letdown
[10:03] <Ben64> Dr_Willis: does wubi still let you mount the windows partition?
[10:03] <DylanCl> how do I download it to that Dr_Willis
[10:03] <Dr_Willis> wubi auto mounts the host fs somewhere
[10:03] <histo> !usb | DylanCl
[10:03] <CallingPanther> I never liked Nero even when I had winblows
[10:03] <Dr_Willis> DylanCl:  tell the browser to save it there..
[10:04] <histo> CallingPanther: Is there a reason you are using nero?
[10:04] <Dr_Willis> DylanCl:  i just dont know where its mounted to.. /host/ perhaps
[10:04] <CallingPanther> I just installed to see if I could...lol
[10:04] <Dr_Willis> DylanCl:  your windows files should all bee in /host/
[10:04] <CallingPanther> I use brasero
[10:04] <Extreme> Hi, how can I create an Ubuntu Repository like this: http://goo.gl/oQ3c5 ?
[10:04] <Dr_Willis> i think
[10:04] <DylanCl> ok
[10:04] <grime> Ben64 i know theres already one but i wanted to do it myself, i have a project in mind
[10:04] <DylanCl> You're right
[10:05] <DylanCl> So just install it to there
[10:05] <DylanCl> and it should work?
[10:05] <Dr_Willis> SAVE it to there..
[10:05] <histo> grime: http://alternativeto.net/software/ableton-live/?platform=linux
[10:05] <Dr_Willis> thats not installing it
[10:05] <DylanCl> oh
[10:05] <DylanCl> save it to there
[10:05] <DylanCl> sorry
[10:05] <Dr_Willis> then use the live usb maker tools to make a bootable live usb to install from
[10:06] <Dr_Willis> or burn a dvd
[10:06] <Dr_Willis> backup stuff you want to keep to your ubuntu one account if you want also. ;)
[10:06] <grime> histo like i said ardour comes close but still not there yet    https://www.ableton.com/en/live/new-in-9/
[10:07] <histo> grime: well then I guess you are stuck dualbooting or running through a virtual machine
[10:07] <Ben64> winehq says it's "Platinum"\
[10:07] <grime> histo yeah : / .......someday
[10:08] <CallingPanther> Guess I will go back to my channel where I am the only one there...lol
[10:08] <grime> Ben64 it works on wine but once in a while crashes or theres major latency
[10:08] <burtonium> @grime: why would you like to use OS for things, that simply work best on another system. Just use the system that does your job best
[10:09] <batcherrors> i am perfoming a command on several files (unoconv -f csv *.ods)...but command stopst finds any error...how can i force command to keep modifying files ignoring errors?
[10:10] <DylanCl> Dr_Willis: I have the .iso file, what now?
[10:10] <grime> burtonium, because i love linux and everything about it like troubleshooting and installing from source....its great! cli is the best i dont wanna step backwards
[10:10] <Dr_Willis> then use the live usb maker tools to make a bootable live usb to install from
[10:10] <Dr_Willis> DylanCl:  ^^^^
[10:10] <DylanCl> live usb maker tools?
[10:10] <Dr_Willis> i forget its name.. disk-creator or somthing
[10:10] <DylanCl> ...is that something like daemon tools on windows
[10:10] <histo> grime: May notice better perfomance in a virtual machine if your processor has vt technology
[10:11] <Dr_Willis> !install
[10:11] <Dr_Willis> the install docs tell how
[10:11] <grime> histo, nah my comp dont support it at all ived looked...hahaha
[10:11] <Dr_Willis> thought it was callled 'disk creator'
[10:11] <DylanCl> !automate
[10:12] <burtonium> @grime: I love linux too, but I like to make job done. So I use many different systems for different tasks. I even don't use same linux for desktop and servers, etc .. You will save yourself lot of pain if you chose right system for right task ;) But if your intension is more of a exploring, what you can do with your linux, then I understand you completly. I was like this back in time ... ;)
[10:12] <Ben64> I don't know about grime, but I cannot use Windows anymore, it feels so clunky and difficult to get simple things done
[10:13] <DylanCl> Dr_Willis: Startup Disk Creator?
[10:13] <Dr_Willis> DylanCl:  try it and see.. sounds close
[10:13] <histo> burtonium: You realize you can use <tab> to autocomplete names if you didn't type that @ symbol first in most clients
[10:13] <Dr_Willis> silly twitter user... @'s are for ops..
[10:14] <Dr_Willis> ;P
[10:14] <burtonium> hahaha, i even don't have twitter account :D LOL
[10:14] <grime> burtonium, yeah i use like 10 diff kinds its all just real great....ived tried the easiest to install and the hardest to install, the exp is awesome but im never going back to anything else
[10:14] <Dr_Willis> i got a twitter account.. and i can barely read/understand most of the twits im reading...
[10:15] <burtonium> @histi: the only autocomplete i use is in terminal ;)
[10:15] <Dr_Willis> err. tweets
[10:15] <IdleOne> !tab | burtonium
[10:15] <grime> Ben64, i feel ya...someone gave me a windows 7 computer and first thing i did was toss linux on it haha
[10:15] <Ben64> grime: i use a terminal for just about everything
[10:16] <batcherrors> is there a way to execute a batch command ignoring errors???
[10:16] <uban2> is there a ubuntu chat channel
[10:16] <Ben64> uban2: #ubuntu-offtopic for most stuff
[10:16] <l057c0d3r> grime, yeah..  i bought a new lappy with windows 8 on it..  after a few weeks..  i formated it and tossed ubuntu gnome remix on it
[10:16] <uban2> thanks Ben64
[10:17] <l057c0d3r> uban2, i believe its #ubuntu-chat or #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:17] <l057c0d3r> i believe the chat one just redirects to the offtopic channel
[10:17] <l057c0d3r> hmm or not
[10:17] <l057c0d3r> ubuntu-chat is invite onlly
[10:17] <grime> Ben64 same here i love cli power haha still trying to memorize some commads but other than that i use it in place on synaptic
[10:17] <Dr_Willis> l057c0d3r:  or regiestered nicks only
[10:17] <panorain> Dr_Willis can I ask about why my screensaver will not lock when I am running 12.10?
[10:18] <l057c0d3r> but i am a registered nick
[10:18] <Dr_Willis> panorain:  you can ask.. but i have no answer. i disable the screen locking anyway
[10:18] <l057c0d3r> heh i had to disable the lock on gnome3
[10:18] <panorain> Dr_willis I am using gnome-classic
[10:18] <grime> l057c0d3r, haha yeah i configured my bro in laws comp and was preaching linux to him hahaha i got em to ditch word for openoffice
[10:19] <Dr_Willis> panorain:  and i dont use that either.
[10:19] <l057c0d3r> i like libreoffice myself
[10:19] <Dr_Willis> i just use abiword. ;)
[10:19] <l057c0d3r> wait....  why am i banned from ubuntu-offtopic
[10:20] <l057c0d3r> .... ok im lost...
[10:20] <Dr_Willis> i  found my old amiga word processor/database apps the other day.. makes me feel old
[10:20] <histo> lol
[10:20] <panorain> 1057c0d3r I am using xscreensaver  'ants' anyideas on how to get the screensaver to lock ; works fine just will not lock.
[10:20] <grime> l057c0d3r, i do too but something about openoffice just captivates haha.
[10:20] <histo> l057c0d3r: ask in #ubuntu-ops
[10:20] <panorain> grime !!!1
[10:21] <panorain> locked
[10:21] <DylanCl> Dr_Willis: it works, do I just install it on my usb now?
[10:21] <grime> panorain, whats good
[10:21] <panorain> SON  takes like 2 mminutes after running to lock dang
[10:21] <panorain> grime   HI!
[10:21] <l057c0d3r> panorain, when i used it lxde there was a require password option in the settings menu
[10:21] <Dr_Willis> DylanCl:  works? you mean the usb flash boots properly?
[10:21] <DylanCl> I don't know, I just mean that it picks up the .iso and my usb stick
[10:22] <DylanCl> now it asks me to make a startup disk
[10:22] <l057c0d3r> and also an option on how soon to require password after screensaver
[10:22] <Tex_Nick> Dr_Willis : lol ... you ARE old then ... i'm impressed the files have survived this long ;-)
[10:22] <panorain> 1057c0d3r it locks after 2 mins running   very good     I am going to try Queens now
[10:22] <Dr_Willis> DylanCl:  so you read the install docs site...and made a bootable usb with that tool?
[10:22] <Dr_Willis> Tex_Nick:  these were the original boxs and floppies
[10:22] <DylanCl> No, I just looked at what you said. You told me to install Disk Creator, googled a bit, found a tutorial about it
[10:22] <DylanCl> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-ubuntu
[10:23] <Tex_Nick> Dr_Willis : rofl ... that's GREAT !!!
[10:23] <Dr_Willis> it puts the iso on the usb the right way.. then you boot the usb... then you install from that to the hard drive
[10:23] <grime> panorain yo
[10:23] <grime> panorain, hows the new ubuntu treating you
[10:24] <l057c0d3r> whats wrong with startup disk creator that comes with ubuntu..
[10:24] <batcherrors> is there a way to execute a batch command ignoring errors???
[10:24] <Dr_Willis> its sad when you rediscover an old app you used for ages.. and notice that it has features missing in newer apps.
[10:24] <panorain> grime i'm using 12.10 with gnome classic Tex_Nick is awesome help
[10:24] <l057c0d3r> ususally with the --force
[10:24] <l057c0d3r> or -f
[10:24] <panorain> grime Dr_Willis is awesome also
[10:24] <l057c0d3r> but not all commands have that flag
[10:24] <panorain> grime I want my 8.04 back
[10:24] <Tex_Nick> Dr_Willis : that would be 5.25 floppies ?
[10:25] <Dr_Willis> Tex_Nick:  amigas used 880k 3.25s i recall
[10:25] <grime> panorain, very cool thats what the community is for...we help each other and we grow together
[10:26] <Dr_Willis> panorain:  what for.. all you have been doing all day is playing with themes and other nonproductive stuff. :) you do any real work with the pc?
[10:26] <Tex_Nick> ah ok ... same media though ... just smaller diameter ;-)
[10:26] <grime> panorain, yeah i liked 8.04 but then i ran 10.10 and was very happy, now im using 12.04 and i cant complain
[10:27] <michael_p> anyone got msoffice going for ubuntu
[10:27] <l057c0d3r> heh..  12.10 with gnome-shell and ton of extensions to make it usable..  besides lock feature not working correctly.... its great
[10:27] <grime> well ill see yall later! peace!
[10:27] <Dr_Willis> 13.04 has some nice features  getting added also
[10:27] <chalcedony> michael_p, openoffice, libreoffice
[10:27] <Sven_vB> i'm trying to share my internet connection with my Palm TX, and it seems i'm stuck at how to offer PPP to my palm. i found pppd, but despite the "d" it seems that is more of a client for connecting to a PPP server, not itself a PPP server. can anyone give me some hints? Search engines only shows me help about tethering, but I'm looking for the other way around.
[10:27] <l057c0d3r> Dr_Willis, off hand what's some of the new features they are working on?
[10:27] <Dr_Willis> next gnome-shell also seems to be getting some neat stuff
[10:27] <zetheroo> when I share a directory with files inside the directory is visible from other PC's but none of the files are visible ... why!?
[10:28] <l057c0d3r> that would be good to know about.. im going to have to start googling :-p
[10:28] <Dr_Willis> l057c0d3r:  just from skimming omgubuntu - smarter 'everything' ;)
[10:28] <Dr_Willis> l00pback:  and quicklist-window switching
[10:29] <Dr_Willis> oops; ) wrong nick
[10:29] <DylanCl> Dr_Willis: It gave me this error: Checksums do not match. Retry?
[10:30] <Dr_Willis> your download was currupted most likely DylanCl
[10:31] <DylanCl> What should I do?
[10:31] <Dr_Willis> redownload.. would be the logical thing...
[10:32] <Dr_Willis> and hope it wasent yout hd failing that caused windows to bsod...
[10:32] <Sven_vB> DylanCl, while downloading into a new file, you could also checksum the old image, to make sure if it was really the download that got corrupted.
[10:32] <Tex_Nick> Dr_Willis : do you know if there emulators for those amigas, comodores & apples ... for linux
[10:32] <Dr_Willis> Tex_Nick: they exist.. i got amiga emulator for my android phone.. ;)
[10:33] <Dr_Willis> just got no real need for running an amiga any more
[10:33] <zAo^> Is there a Steam 64bit?
[10:33] <Dr_Willis> 32bit woeks fine zAo^  for 64bit users
[10:34] <DylanCl> What do you mean with that Sven_vB, checksum the old image?
[10:34] <panorain> grime I am using 12.10 with gnome-classic
[10:34] <zAo^> Dr_Willis: I know, bit it wants to install lots of extra packages I dont want :) So there is no 64bit version?
[10:34] <Dr_Willis> zAo^:  not that ive seen
[10:35] <zAo^> Dr_Willis: thanks
[10:35] <Dr_Willis> you are worried about perhaps 100mb of packages to run a 3+gb game.. ;)
[10:36] <Dr_Willis> goint to play tf2 just to get a tux item. ;) saw several in here doing that last week
[10:37] <ntzrmtthihu777> lol. hope for a shell quickie: I have a folder with albums from a certain artist, named with this setup "year - album", quick way to switch to this format? "album (year)" ?
[10:37] <Sven_vB> DylanCl, from skiming the log it sounds like you have downloaded an ISO file. wit checksumming i meant determining the MD5 or SHA-1 of your downloaded ISO, for then comparing it with what the download site says it should be. if they differ, your download was broken. if they are the same, it was some other problem.
[10:38] <Dr_Willis> ntzrmtthihu777:  ive used 'qmv' and a text editor/macro to do complex renameing in the past.
[10:38] <ntzrmtthihu777> qmv, not familiar with that one
[10:38] <ntzrmtthihu777> you know what, i think I can do this... just a sec
[10:38] <Dr_Willis> it puts all the filenames in a list in a text editor... you edit names  save/quit   it renames them
[10:39] <Dr_Willis> handy for big comples renameing
[10:39] <Dr_Willis> complex
[10:39] <ntzrmtthihu777> I bet I can do it with an awk generated script
[10:39] <Dr_Willis> !info renameutils
[10:39] <DylanCl> No idea what you're talking about Sven_vB, I really don't know anything about ubuntu and computers. Should I just reinstall the iso?
[10:40] <Dr_Willis> DylanCl:  dedownload...
[10:40] <Dr_Willis> redownload
[10:40] <Dulcin> Ugh, I just installed the latest ATI drivers (13.1) for my HD4000 card and now gnome shell is not loading anymore, I get the gnome classic look
[10:40] <Dulcin> any idea why this happened?
[10:40] <Dulcin> before I was using the open source driv ers
[10:40] <ntzrmtthihu777> ooo nice, I already use gprenamed for simpler renaming
[10:41] <shwouchk> How can I switch programmatically out of Xorg and into one of the ttys?
[10:41] <teddxk> I've never used Ubuntu Server before, but I have a spare home computer (4gigs of ram, 500gb hd), would server be the best option to put a sort of home file sharing database?
[10:41] <teddxk> For me to access files from anywhere (school, etc)?
[10:41] <ntzrmtthihu777> shwouchk: ctrl+alt+F
[10:41] <ntzrmtthihu777> shwouchk: ctrl+alt+F1
[10:41] <Dr_Willis> teddxk:  ssh and scp and sftp
[10:41] <shwouchk> ntzrmtthihu777: Programmatically means without user input
[10:42] <zetheroo> when I share a directory with files inside the directory is visible from other PC's but none of the files are visible ... why!?
[10:42] <ntzrmtthihu777> derp, lol.
[10:42] <ntzrmtthihu777> actually it does not, but if that's what you meant my bad lol
[10:42] <Dulcin> teddxk, check out http://www.freenas.org/
[10:42] <panorain> Dr_Willis please help me mount my ghostBSD drive through grub during my boot on 12.10
[10:44] <Extreme> hi, i'm getting this when I try to sign CoC: gpg: can't open `UbuntuCodeofConduct-1.1.txt': No such file or directory
[10:44] <teddxk> Dr_Willis: That's a good simple solution, although I might not have access to CLI's on my school computers:(
[10:44] <teddxk> Dulcin: Looking into it now
[10:44] <Extreme> do I need to install any additional applications/utilities to make this work?
[10:44] <jrib> Extreme: that means the file doesn't exist
[10:45] <jrib> Extreme: you need to download UbuntuCodeofConduct-1.1.txt
[10:45] <Extreme> jrib: yes, I downloaded the file.
[10:45] <shwouchk> ntzrmtthihu777: *pressing* Alt+Ctrl+F1 is not user input?
[10:46] <jrib> Extreme: ok, now you must either be in the directory where you downloaded or provide the correct path to its location in your command
[10:46] <ejv> teddxk: 4 gigs of RAM is more than enough to get started on Ubuntu Server; check out vsftpd, and easy to configure ftp service, so you can access files remotely.
[10:46] <Extreme> jrib: nvm, wget -O- https://launchpad.net/codeofconduct/1.1/+download | gpg --clearsign | xsel --clipboard   worked
[10:46] <Extreme> jrib: thanks.
[10:53] <bekks> teddxk: You'd better check out SFTP, as FTP is to be considered old and insecure nowadays.
[10:53] <bekks> teddxk: Basically, all you need to have for SFTP is a working SSH server.
[10:55] <DylanCl> Dr_Willis: New download, still same error
[10:56] <DylanCl> is there any other way to get more disk space on my ubuntu
[10:56] <Dr_Willis> DylanCl: sinc your windows disk in not working.. delete stuff from it like its swap file.
[10:57] <ejv> bekks: FTP supports SSL/TLS
[10:57] <kepler> or he can boot into windows, and use unetbootin from there, to make the usb stick
[10:57] <Dr_Willis> you may want to use the torrents DylanCl
[10:57] <azizLIGHTS> !dual boot
[10:57] <DylanCl> Blue screen of death on windows startup kepler
[10:57] <DylanCl> also have a cracked screen on this laptop because I raged
[10:58] <snodo> where is the  authorized_keys file for open_ssh
[10:58] <Dr_Willis> snodo:  .ssh perhaps
[10:58] <ejv> /home/$USER/.ssh/
[10:58] <snodo> thanks
[10:59] <ejv> please don't raise children DylanCl ;)
[10:59] <DylanCl> ejv: I only get mad at computers, no worrys.
[11:00] <DylanCl> So, what should I do?
[11:00] <dannel> people can compute too |:
[11:00] <Dr_Willis> you may want to use the torrents DylanCl
[11:00] <Dr_Willis> DylanCl:  clean off junk on the windows hd for space.
[11:00] <DylanCl> Hmm
[11:01] <DylanCl> I think i'm going to forget ubuntu, since it's not working
[11:01] <DylanCl> Now, I have another question
[11:01] <DylanCl> I have a disk with windows 7 on it, is there any way to install it without using BIOS and such?
[11:01]  * eaglewing I tried upgrading ubuntu 12.04 to 12.10, but it says that 'unity' won't be able to run on my laptop, so I cancelled the upgrade. If I upgraded anyway, is it possible for me to boot to a point where I will be able to install lxde?
[11:01] <DylanCl> Because I can't acces it with a cracked screen
[11:01] <Dr_Willis> DylanCl: ask in #windows
[11:02] <Dr_Willis> i dont see why you need bios....
[11:02] <dannel> Eagleman, yes
[11:02] <DylanCl> Most of the tutorials I've seen is with bios
[11:02] <krux> lol
[11:02] <Dr_Willis> tutorial for what?... you boot the disk...
[11:03] <dannel> you boot to the power button to hijack the bios to evacuate the hard disk for lift off
[11:03] <BlackWeb> Is anyone here familar with awk
[11:04] <Dr_Willis> im wondering if you dont have a deeper hardware/hd issue..
[11:05] <kepler> ^ that, especially with the cracked screen :P
[11:05] <Tex_Nick> BlackWeb: a lot of people ... state your question in detail :)
[11:05] <DylanCl> well
[11:05] <DylanCl> it started after the cracked screen so you may be right
[11:06] <BlackWeb> K Creating a shell script to process multiple files from right clicking on them, but my problem is need to figure out how to seperate the files selected so that I can process them I'll send what I have
[11:06] <ejv> man is familiar with awk, man awk
[11:06] <BlackWeb> quoted=$(echo "$NAUTILUS_SCRIPT_SELECTED_FILE_PATHS" | sed 's/ /\\ /g')
[11:06] <BlackWeb> var=$(quoted |  awk 'BEGIN {FS = "\n" } { printf "\"%s\" ", $1 }')
[11:06] <BlackWeb> echo $quoted > Test1.txt
[11:06] <BlackWeb> echo $var > Test2.txt
[11:06] <FloodBot1> BlackWeb: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:06] <Dr_Willis> i got a book on awk. :)
[11:07] <roidal> hi guys
[11:07] <serp_> hi, I had a dual-boot system with ubuntu 12.10 32-bit and Win7. I tried to upgrade ubuntu to 64-bit by installing it on the same partition as before. Now when I try to start my system I get a grub> prompt without any visible errors. how do I fix this?
[11:07] <BlackWeb> So trying to sperate the two
[11:07] <ejv> a book on awk, sounds about as fun as a root canal
[11:07] <BlackWeb> the Echo test 1 & echo test 2 is testing that its working
[11:08] <roidal> BlackWeb: whats your problem?
[11:08] <BlackWeb> heres my results from Test 1 & Test 2
[11:08] <Dr_Willis> BlackWeb:  look for example nautilus scripts perhaps. there used to be a website full of them
[11:08] <BlackWeb> /home/infinity/Desktop/Samba /home/infinity/Desktop/AutoCad\ Install\ Instructions
[11:08] <BlackWeb> So my script is printing out the 2 files I selected, How do i get it two where it seperates them to process the files
[11:09] <BlackWeb> I'm using  var=$(quoted |  awk 'BEGIN {FS = "\n" } { printf "\"%s\" ", $1 }') to try to do this but no luck?
[11:10] <roidal> i have a problem
[11:10] <kenshiro1> ciao
[11:10] <roidal> i downloaded the ubuntu server 12.04, wrote it with dd on a usb-key
[11:10] <kenshiro1> !list
[11:11] <NeoColossus> serp_: Have you tried booting from a live CD/USB, going into gparted and looking at your swap partition?
[11:11] <roidal> now the bootloader is working, but before the first kernel-message appears the computer is rebooting?
[11:11] <serp_> NeoColossus: not really. I am doing that now. what should I look for_
[11:12] <tritlo> \q
[11:12] <DylanCl> Is there a way in ubuntu to automaticly pick up the external monitor on the startupscreen? Where you can dualboot and such
[11:12] <NeoColossus> serp_: Look for the location. It sounds like your broke your MBR, which means your boot sequence isn't processing correctly.
[11:12] <serp_> the swap partition is ther
[11:12] <jrtappers> Every time I open evolution it opens the add accounts menu
[11:12] <NeoColossus> serp_: Typically a wipe of the partition and a clean install would fix that by creating a new MBR.
[11:13] <NeoColossus> serp_: The swap is formatted for 32bit though, no?
[11:13] <leogarlian> How can I make a window bigger than the screen can fit?   e.g. I tried       wmctrl -r Minutor -e 1,0,0,3000,3000        without much success
[11:13] <michael_p_> is ubuntu 12.04 better then 12.10
[11:14] <serp_> NeoColossus: are there different swaps partitions for 32 and 64 bit?
[11:14] <SilvereX> Hey guys, I'm having some trouble with my graphics drivers. Whenever I try to launch minecraft, it and says it cannot initiate GLX. How can I resolve this problem?
[11:14] <SilvereX> it crashes and*
[11:14] <zAo^> How can I force an unused disk to be spinned down?
[11:15] <NeoColossus> serp_: Yes! The way the boot process refers to the next file/program in the boot sequence depends on the kernel the OS is formated for.
[11:15] <NeoColossus> serp_: The swap holds all of the bootup programs to bring you to the actual OS.
[11:16] <serp_> what
[11:16] <serp_> are you trolling?
[11:16] <serp_> that is not what a swap partition is
[11:17] <bekks> NeoColossus: Thats not true at all.
[11:18] <ejv> indeed NeoColossus, you are mistaken.
[11:18] <superdo> hi, any recommended command/steps to reset network after notebook wake up?
[11:19] <bis0n> zAo^, by unplug the power connector :)
[11:19] <mrmaharshi> Pro-E not install in Ubuntu. How can I install?
[11:20] <zAo^> bis0n: its in my laptop ;)
[11:20] <ejv> NeoColossus: The bootloader loads the kernel image into system memory, at which point it instructs the CPU to run the image. When the kernel is loaded and run, it initializes all kernel-specific data structures and tasks, and then and only then, begins "init".
[11:20] <bis0n> mrmaharshi, Pro-E???
[11:20] <mcored> have you guys seen a music player that plays *.mka files?
[11:21] <mcored> foobar2000 is the only one i have seen but i am trying to switch to a native player if possible.
[11:21] <bis0n> zAo^, just unmount the part, but a disk not spin when not used
[11:21] <zAo^> bis0n: Its not even mounted :S
[11:21] <bekks> NeoColossus: And, in addition, the swap area is only used for paging, and as a special task, for storing the suspend-to-disk data when suspending to disk. Thats, btw, it the reason for having as much swap as system RAM.
[11:21] <ejv> NeoColossus: At which point, init is responsible for loading filesystems, executing start up procedures and scripts, services, etc. Finally, after init is completed, it activates terminals and virtual consoles, and attaches itself to agetty.
[11:21] <ejv> Knowledge is power.
[11:22] <bis0n> zAo^, so, the disk not spinning... sure
[11:22] <bekks> ejv: s/agetty/a tty/
[11:22] <mrmaharshi> bis0n, Pro-E is a 3D modeling software. I want to install this software in Ubuntu. Its available in .exe file type.
[11:22] <zAo^> bis0n: It is actually; the other one is an SSD
[11:23] <ejv> I didn't typo bekks :/
[11:23] <serp_> bekks: what happens if you do suspend-to-disk with a full swap then?
[11:23] <bekks> serp_: Then, most likely, suspend to disk will fail with an out of memory killer error.
[11:23] <wildc4rd> Good morning all, I need to allocate more ram to Java, but need to run the 64 bit version to go higher than a gig. Can I run the 64 bit JDK in a 32 bit Ubuntu installation?
[11:24] <bis0n> mrmaharshi, you can't install exe program, you can try with wine but it's not perfect. the best way is an virtual machine with windows (virtualbox / vmware ...)
[11:24] <llutz> zAo^: see sdparm/hdparm
[11:24] <bekks> serp_: And having a full swap empowers other problems rather than being unable to swap.
[11:24] <zAo^> llutz: thnx
[11:24] <bis0n> zAo^, so, some data is on use... you have to find what data is used on it
[11:25] <ejv> wildc4rd: you cannot run a 64bit JDK on a 32bit host. Sorry.
[11:26] <wildc4rd> ejv, I thought that was the case, but worth asking before I reinstall, lol
[11:26] <bis0n> wildc4rd, the problem is the kernel, you can't! you have to install a 64bits system
[11:27] <zAo^> bis0n: lsof doesnt show anything
[11:27] <bekks> bis0n: The problem is the kernel, at first glance, at at second glance, all the missing 64bit userland tools.
[11:27] <ejv> wildc4rd: of course, the exception, is virtualized hardware support; running a VM
[11:27] <bis0n> wildc4rd, you can save your home part and don't loose anything, really simple to change system with ubuntu
[11:27] <Catbuntu> gosh
[11:27] <Catbuntu> There's no sound!
[11:27] <wildc4rd> interesting idea, run a 64 bit VM on a 32 bit host, lol
[11:27] <bis0n> bekks, of course...
[11:28] <Catbuntu> Please help.
[11:28] <bekks> wildc4rd: Which works fine, under the premise your CPU supports the virtualization of a 64bit guest.
[11:28] <Catbuntu> I use Ubuntu 12.10 64-bit with Unity.
[11:28] <llutz> wildc4rd: virtualbox supports it
[11:28] <ejv> wildc4rd: there are guidelines, you need a 64bit processor with hardware virtualization support, VT-X or AMD-V, BIOS enabled HV, etc.
[11:28] <Catbuntu> I lost my sound... Yesterday it worked I think.
[11:28] <bis0n> wildc4rd, yes possible
[11:28] <wildc4rd> bis0n, is that an option at the start of the install? I'm sure I remember seeing it before!
[11:28] <Catbuntu> I just installed gnome-shell and changed the login manager to GDM.
[11:28] <wildc4rd> and its an i7, so batter have 64 bit support, lol
[11:28] <wildc4rd> better*
[11:29] <llutz> wildc4rd: http://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch03.html#intro-64bitguests
[11:29] <bis0n> wildc4rd, if your home part is serparate it's simple, just choose "manually partition" ...
[11:29] <ejv> Saying something "broke" without any details, logs, hardware information, nothing, is a poor start to getting yourself support Catbuntu.
[11:29] <Catbuntu> You ask me for the information.
[11:29] <bis0n> wildc4rd, if not you have to copy the whole home directory to an empty partition before
[11:29] <Dr_Willis> !sound
[11:30] <ejv> Catbuntu: funny, but that's not how it works, I'm not going to play 20 questions with you. That's not why we're all here. ;)
[11:30] <bis0n> zAo^, strange
[11:30] <Catbuntu> If I try to run alsamixer it says "file not found"
[11:30] <wildc4rd> bis0n, I'll do that anyway, have separate mounted drives I can back up on
[11:30] <bis0n> zAo^, maybe a bad driver of sata controller but seem strange
[11:31] <roidal> no ideas?
[11:31] <thedark> hello everyone. I am trying to install qJoyPad. However, I get the following error: QMAKESPEC has not been set, so configuration cannot be deduced.
[11:31] <thedark> Error processing project file: /home/thedark/qjoypad-4.1.0/src/qjoypad.pro
[11:31] <thedark> Error: you need qmake!
[11:31] <roidal> its not realy a new system, AMD E-450
[11:31] <Catbuntu> I use a Realtek sound card iirc.
[11:31] <zAo^> bis0n: Thats what I thought :) Ill look into logs
[11:31] <Dr_Willis> !info qmake
[11:31] <Dr_Willis> !find qmake
[11:31] <Dr_Willis> there it is..
[11:31] <bis0n> zAo^, simply check the power parameters... like screen saver etc... sorry for my bad english
[11:32] <bis0n> I'm french...
[11:32] <thedark> okay...
[11:32] <thedark> there it is...
[11:32] <noenoe> hello everyone...i am newbee....can i question about ubuntu 10.10
[11:32] <Dr_Willis> !info qt4-qmake
[11:32] <thedark> how do I set the parameter
[11:32] <ejv> Better format: "Hi, I previously was running $A, now I'm running $B. I'm using <ALSA/PULSEAUDIO/W/E> under Ubuntu version $BLAH, with kernel BLAH. This is a pastebin of my <logs,dmesg,other stdout errors>. I'm currently using $environment. This is what I've tried: <foo,bar,etc>."
[11:32] <zAo^> bis0n: no problems! I found this: init: upstart-socket-bridge main process (919) terminated with status 1
[11:32] <thedark> I have qt installed, I did google this and tried several things before I came here
[11:33] <thedark> I just don't know how to set the spec properly so that I can install this
[11:33] <bis0n> zAo^, I don't think the problem is here...
[11:33] <bekks> noenoe: 10.10 isnt supported anymore.
[11:33] <Dr_Willis> thedark:  install that qmake thing.  is all i know
[11:33] <thedark> it is already installed
[11:33] <thedark> *sigh*
[11:33] <_NeTstat_-b> Hey everyone! First time here.
[11:34] <Dr_Willis> it just said it wasent found.  .. buy  gotta hit the store
[11:34] <Dr_Willis> bbl
[11:34] <noenoe> yup bekk....but how to add repost from other source?
[11:34] <thedark> well... thanks for at least trying to help
[11:35] <bis0n> zAo^, sudo smartctl -a /dev/sd**
[11:36] <noenoe> i dont wanna change 10.10...but can i found other repost from where?
[11:36] <wildc4rd> bis0n, so if I just bung my /home folder on another drive, reinstall the 64 bit OS I can drop the home folder back in afterwards?
[11:36] <noenoe> i want to install qt4 to my 10.10
[11:36] <bekks> noenoe: 10.10 isnt supported anymore.
[11:37] <bis0n> wildc4rd, not sure... the best way is select the home partition at installation time... if you do this after I'm not sure it's good
[11:37] <zAo^> bis0n: ok, what am I looking for?
[11:37] <bis0n> what is the result zAo^
[11:37] <zAo^> bis0n: a LOT
[11:37] <noenoe> :(
[11:38] <wildc4rd> bis0n, righto, all important data is backed up anyway if the worst happens!
[11:38] <bis0n> zAo^, sudo smartctl -a $(mount | sed -n '/\/ /s/[0-9].*//p') | grep 'Cycle\|Power'
[11:38] <zAo^> bis0n: syntax error near unexpected token `)'
[11:38] <zAo^>  ;)
[11:39] <bis0n> zAo^, if you get information about "Power_Cycle_Count" about the hdd
[11:39] <bis0n> zAo^, this it means it stops spinning correctly
[11:41] <Grabbe> Hi, can anyone help me with my mounting? I've got a problem
 bis0n: syntax error near unexpected token `)' -> no the command is correct, sure
[11:42] <zAo^> bis0n: Power_Cycle_Count       0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       37
[11:42] <SilvereX> Is anybody able to help me with some graphics driver issues I'm having?
[11:42] <zAo^> SilvereX: which chipset?
[11:43] <bis0n> zAo^, so, stop sponning 37 times
[11:43] <SilvereX> zAo^: I have a Radeon HD 4850
[11:43] <c2tarun> my /dev/sda4 partition gets mounted to /media/Movies when I select it in nautilus, is there anyother way of automounting it on boot, without editing /etc/fstab file?
[11:44] <Grabbe> I've got a mounting problem in Ubuntu. Using fstab. No errors, but if I use fstab - I can't really see the files in the mounting folder etc, I can't see them on the device nor unmount the device. Then when I disable it in fstab - I can see the files when manually mounted.
[11:44] <bis0n> c2tarun, why without editing fstab???
[11:44] <zAo^> SilvereX: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[11:45] <zAo^> bis0n: Any idea how I can change it? It just stopped spinning :S
[11:45] <bis0n> Grabbe, so option of mounting is not good
[11:45] <bekks> c2tarun: Short answer: No, there isnt.
[11:45] <Grabbe> bis0n, will you be able to help me?
[11:45] <Grabbe> with that.
[11:45] <c2tarun> bis0n, no particular reason, I thought the partition is mounting at the same point anyway so may be there is a way of mounting it to same point without fstab
[11:45] <bis0n> zAo^, this seem to be ok, the disk stop when he can
[11:45] <c2tarun> bekks, ok, thanks :)
[11:46] <zAo^> bis0n: Is there a way to find the process that causes it to spin up?
[11:46] <zAo^> except for lsof since its not mounted
[11:46] <SilvereX> zAo^: Is that the best driver for the HD4850? I'm more concerned about which driver (closed or open source) has better OpenGL support
[11:46] <zAo^> SilvereX: for games use the closed, for desktop usage, use the opensource
[11:46] <Grabbe> bis0n, what's wrong with my options?
[11:46] <Grabbe> UUID=487eb476-df93-4d2f-b08e-019d9473196a /home/anonymous/docs ext4 defaults,user 0 2
[11:47] <Grabbe> It's a seperate partition wih documents which I share with other OSes.
[11:47] <bis0n> zAo^, normally the disk don't have to stop spinning too many times, this can cause damages
[11:47] <zAo^> bis0n: Yeah, I know but it spins up/down every 5 mins now
[11:47] <SilvereX> zAo^: That's where the problem lies. I try to generate a distribution specific package of the 13.1 legacy drivers, it generates the package, tells me it's placed it in my current directory, then tells me an error occurred and the file disappears
[11:48] <zAo^> SilvereX: what error?
[11:49] <bis0n> Grabbe, try replace users by defaults
[11:49] <histo> zAo^: powermanagement mode on the disk
[11:49] <c2tarun> bekks, the partition is already mounted right now, will there be any problem if I add entry in /etc/fstab without umounting it?
[11:50] <zAo^> c2tarun: no
[11:50] <bernardo> ciao
[11:50] <c2tarun> zAo^, ok, thanks
[11:50] <zAo^> histo: which command can change that?
[11:50] <bernardo> !list
[11:50] <histo> zAo^: I believe that would controlled by kernel. So maybe somewhere in /sys
[11:50] <zAo^> histo: thanks
[11:51] <bis0n> zAo^, you can change it with sudo hdparm -B 254 /dev/sda but I say you: it is a bad idea
[11:51] <bekks> c2tarun: No.
[11:51] <bis0n> your power management is correct with 37 in value
[11:51] <zAo^> bis0n: why is it a bad idea?
[11:51] <c2tarun> bekks, do I have to create /media/Movies directory also, or it may get created automatically?
[11:52] <bis0n> zAo^, because if the disk always stop / start / stop you will damage it
[11:52] <bekks> c2tarun: You should not mount things to /media/ from the fstab - /media is used by the automounter.
[11:52] <zAo^> c2tarun: create it
[11:52] <c2tarun> bekks, that's what I was asking, is there anyway to configure that automounter on startup?
[11:52] <bis0n> zAo^, and loose perfs
[11:52] <BrainBug[BE]> anyone knows this one: I connect daily to different AP's with the same ssid. they do have other passwords and sometimes encryption is different. Can and will they enumerate over the wpa_supplicant or just stop when found first match?
[11:53] <bekks> c2tarun: You were asking something totally different.
[11:53] <wildc4rd> what is a recommended program for creating usb startup disks
[11:53] <bekks> c2tarun: And I am sorry, I never configured the automounter, since I dont use it.
[11:54] <BrainBug[BE]> wildc4rd, unetbootin?
[11:54] <bis0n> BrainBug[BE], I think  just stop when found first match
[11:54] <cfhowlett> wildc4rd, startupdiskcreator is default in ubuntu.
[11:54] <bis0n> wildc4rd, unetbootin
[11:55] <zAo^> BrainBug[BE]: may there's an option to connect to a MAC adress in stead of a SSID?
[11:55] <SilvereX> zAo^: http://pastebin.com/vr0icGxU
[11:55] <c2tarun> bekks, sorry if I sounded different, I didn't mean to. ok, can you please tell me a proper place to mount this partition? because my /home is already in different partition , will it be Ok to mount /dev/sda4 to /home/somefolder? My home gets mounted at startup
[11:56] <bekks> c2tarun: mkdir /mnt/mydisk
[11:56] <c2tarun> bekks, ok thanks :)
[11:56] <zAo^> SilvereX: my guess would be to install execstack
[11:56] <eutheria> i right click on the desktop and click create launcher, nothing happens, i've been messing with stuff what have i un-installed?
[11:58] <BrainBug[BE]> zAo^, Good point, however, that is as good as impossible as there are too many... (20 different a month or so).
[11:58] <zAo^> BrainBug[BE]: arg. My guess would be that the first will be used
[11:59] <snodo> hi do i copy my ssh public key into ~.ssh/authorized_keys folder? or is the authorized_keys a text file with the keys?
[11:59] <bekks> snodo:  ~.ssh/authorized_keys is a file, not a folder.
[12:00] <snodo> bekks: thanks alot,got it now
[12:00] <SilvereX> zAo^: Installed execstack but I still get the same error. I'm able to install the driver if I don't generate the distribution specific package, but when I restart my computer it boots me into command line
[12:01] <BrainBug[BE]> zAo^, I've used netcfg before that could do the job, I'll try searching for an alternative :-)
[12:01] <zAo^> SilvereX: what does /var/log/Xorg.0.log say?
[12:01] <zAo^> BrainBug[BE]: or just a network manager with GUI? :$
[12:02] <_NeTstat_-b> Hey everyone! First time here. Anyone know about installing 12.10 on Vmware workstation 9? I installed both 12.10 and 12.04 and everything works fine but as soon as I start the virtual session and login, the graphics do not seem to work. I get the normal background but the sidebar is blank and when I move the cursor over it, it shows a black box byy each of the links
[12:02] <BrainBug[BE]> zAo^, problem with that is, I don't really boot in my wm, as I don't need it. but yes good backup plan.
[12:03] <SilvereX> zAo^: http://pastebin.com/Tm5ieW1D
[12:04] <zAo^> SilvereX: [    26.080] (EE) Failed to load module "fglrx" (module does not exist, 0)
[12:05] <SilvereX> zAo^: That's odd. fglrx was the first thing I installed when my computer starting booting into command line
[12:05] <mani__> q
[12:05] <zAo^> SilvereX: installed a newer kernel lateron?
[12:05] <artrei> i need good alternative DE beside unity that runs good on netbook resolution
[12:05] <zAo^> artrei: xfce4
[12:05] <cfhowlett> artrei, lxde or xfce4
[12:05] <artrei> whats the fastest?
[12:06] <SilvereX> zAo^: I don't think I have. When I try to install fglrx it gives me "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded."
[12:06] <zAo^> artrei: openbox
[12:06] <bekks> artrei: That depends on the specific configuration of your netbook.
[12:06] <cfhowlett> artrei, similar speeds.  note: lubuntu and xubuntu are full flavored distros with those DE's
[12:07] <BrainBug[BE]> artrei, ratpoison, i3, openbox, awesome,... I myself run acer aspire one with openbox conky and I am happy
[12:07] <artrei> i run 12.10 ubuntu, what DE that i could just switch from unity?
[12:08] <Extreme> hi
[12:08] <zAo^> SilvereX: sudo apt-get purge xorg-driver-fglrx fglrx* ; sudo apt-get install fglrx fglrx-amdcccle
[12:08] <cfhowlett> artrei, alternatives come with ubuntu.  you could also install alternate DE's
[12:08] <cfhowlett> Extreme, greetings
[12:08] <Extreme> How can I delete an OpenPGP key?
[12:09] <artrei> thanks all
[12:09] <cfhowlett> artrei, best of luck
[12:10] <histo> artrei: you can install any of them
[12:11] <histo> Extreme: where is it stored?
[12:11] <Extreme> histo: the Ubuntu keyserver?
[12:12] <histo> Extreme: for apt?
[12:12] <artrei> Extreme. i think its on software sources
[12:12] <artrei> on one of the tab
[12:12] <histo> Extreme: apt-key del keyid
[12:13] <Extreme> histo: key not found EOF error.
[12:14] <histo> Extreme: apt-key list   will show them all make sure it's there first
[12:14] <MrBlaise> Hey! Can anyone tell me what difference does it make if open gedit like this: gksu gedit rather then just gedit
[12:14] <histo> MrBlaise: gksu is sudo for graphical apps
[12:14] <histo> !sudo | MrBlaise
[12:15] <artrei> histo, how to remember all the terminal command?
[12:15] <histo> artrei: huh?
[12:15] <MrBlaise> histo thank you!
[12:15] <histo> artrei: which terminal commands?
[12:15] <Extreme> histo: it's not listed there. But it's listed when I search in Seahorse with my email.
[12:16] <artrei> histo, i just thinking how can someone know every command on linux
[12:16] <histo> Extreme: Is this a key you use for email? Or a repository key?
[12:17] <histo> artrei: they can't. You use things like apropos searchterm   or man -k searchterm   which are both the same. they will search throught he documentation on your system and provide answers
[12:17] <SilvereX> zAo^: Alright, I've done that. I assume I should reboot?
[12:17] <artrei> oh many thanks histo
[12:18] <histo> artrei: you can man man to learn how to use the man command
[12:19] <Guest77644> syntax is man abc as abd is the command you want to learn about
[12:19] <Extreme> histo: no, it's OpenPGP key I generated
[12:19] <Guest77644> anybody knows how to make ubuntu much faster
[12:20] <histo> Guest77644: What?
[12:20] <histo> Extreme: Ahh I missunderstood you.
[12:20] <Extreme> histo: okay.
[12:20] <Guest77644> On a Pentium4 2 cores
[12:20] <Guest46119> well, a different DE might speed it up a bit
[12:20] <Guest77644> what's a DE ?
[12:20] <Guest46119> desktop environment
[12:21] <Guest77644> Something like xubuntu orr lubuntu for instance ?
[12:21] <histo> Extreme: launch seahorse and delete the key
[12:21] <histo> Guest77644: yes
[12:21] <Guest46119> if you already got ubuntu installed, its no need to change distro though
[12:21] <Guest77644> Why does sudo take a while to respond ?
[12:22] <tiger2wander> Hi guys
[12:22] <histo> Guest77644: lubuntu and xubuntu are distributions to be more "proper" lubuntu uses the LXDE DE and xubuntu uses XFCE DE or desktop environment Ubuntu uses Unity as it's DE
[12:22] <histo> Guest77644: what command are you running with sudo?
[12:23] <Extreme> histo: the problem is that, it's not listed in Seahorse. I created it via terminal.
[12:23] <Guest77644> So mine uses Gnome2 , not unity as it's a bit old now
[12:23] <histo> Extreme: How did you create it in terminal?
[12:24] <RodrigoPvai> Quem esta chegando agora --> começou o Brasil Jan ---> http://www.ubuntu-br.org/globaljam
[12:24] <histo> Extreme: I'm kind of confused cuz you just said you can see it in seahorse when you use your email
[12:24] <Extreme> histo: using "gpg --gen-key" i think.
[12:24] <DavidA> Hello i just installed 12.04 with unity and jockey doesn't show amd/ati graphics drivers
[12:24] <Guest77644> It runs fine, better that windows for many aspects but still it's a little slow, I've tried many tweaks , some have improved it a bit... lubuntu runs better but it's also less fun.
[12:25] <Extreme> histo: In Seahorse, when I search with: "Remote > Find remote keys" that is.
[12:25] <histo> !brazile | RodrigoPvai
[12:25] <histo> !brazil | RodrigoPvai
[12:26] <histo> Extreme: those keys are stored online
[12:26] <histo> Extreme: click the where to search...
[12:27] <histo> 0.o
[12:27] <Guest77644> What is seahorse ? I've looked in synaptic it says "Seahorse is a front end for GnuPG " as PG stands for Privacy Guard
[12:27] <Extreme> histo: okay, yes, I selected keyserver.ubuntu.blah and searched and I can see two keys listed.
[12:27] <DavidA> Hello i just installed 12.04 with unity and jockey doesn't show amd/ati graphics drivers. How can i get jockey to show the drivers or install the drivers without jockey?
[12:27] <histo> Extreme: Do you manage the keyserver.ubuntu.blah so that you can delete keys stored there?
[12:28] <Guest77644> Anybody who is programmer here ? Who uses Pascal ?
[12:28] <histo> Guest77644: keys for encryption and signing
[12:28] <Guest77644> Ok, thanks histo
[12:28] <Extreme> Guest77644: no. But I created those keys.
[12:28] <tiger2wander> I'm trying to write a C program to detect whatever user is pressing RCTRL or not but don't know how to use escaped keycode begin with e0 like: 0xe0 0x1d
[12:28] <histo> Guest77644: /j #pascal
[12:29] <tiger2wander> Anyone know how?
[12:31] <Guest77644> I have Lazarus 9.28 I guess, and wanted to upgrade to latest release, but this was impossible because of missing dependencies as my system is a little old today ( Maverick 10.10) is there a way to install the latest Lazarus and FPC without changing the system, I'm happy with my Maverick.
[12:32] <histo> Extreme: You need to generate a krc and send it to the key server
[12:32] <Colin_> hello whats the difference between normal unbuntu 64 bit and the UEFI version?
[12:32] <Extreme> histo: thanks, how do I generate it?
[12:32] <histo> Extreme: Trying to find you directions
[12:33] <Extreme> tyvm
[12:34] <histo> Extreme: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto#Revoking_a_keypair
[12:36] <Colin_> anyone?
[12:36] <snodo> hi.. in my ssh config file #PasswordAuthentication yes (its commented off but still allows password logings, does the commenting off have no effect?
[12:37] <Extreme> histo: mind a PM
[12:37] <Extreme> ?
[12:37] <histo> Extreme: sure
[12:38] <histo> Colin_: there isn't uefi is in the 64bit version. If your system is using uefi it will install uefi boot loader
[12:38] <histo> snodo: change to passwordauthentication no
[12:38] <Colin_> so there no diffrence just will chnage bootloader system that it?
[12:39] <histo> Colin_: yes. You can't download ubuntu UEFI version.
[12:39] <Colin_> ok
[12:39] <snodo> histo : sure i will try that, thanks, i thought since it was commented it should be disabled. thanks
[12:39] <Colin_> histo: thank you
[12:39] <tiger2wander> Colin_, I'm using UEFI version :)
[12:39] <tiger2wander> Ubuntu 13.04 dev branch, UEFI firmware is already included inside the iso file
[12:40] <Colin_> tiger2wander: would you mind telling me then is there any dieffrence ion setup like partitions etc
[12:40] <multipack> you can specify a efi bootloader from version 12.04 onwards
[12:40] <Guest77644> Ping timeout 249 seconds is too slow !
[12:41] <tiger2wander> Colin_, you must use the GPT partition scheme and have a EFI partition formated with fat32 and set it as EFI type by parted or gdisk
[12:41] <ix_> if I get a really long list for a command in the terminal, how do I scroll all the way to the top? it does not let me do that
[12:41] <bekks> ix_: shift pgup
[12:42] <histo> tiger2wander: the installer can do that.
[12:42] <tiger2wander> to install UEFI you must booted the setup device in UEFI mode otherwise it will can not read / modify the UEFI boot items
[12:43] <tiger2wander> histo, yes, but it can break current partition if you let's it take that IMO :P
[12:43] <Avinash> Hello Guys, How do I increase swap space in my ubuntu 12.10 ..? currently it was set to 1011MB, now I want to increase it's size
[12:44] <cfhowlett> !swap|Avinash,
[12:44] <ix_> Avinash: you could just create a swap file
[12:44] <ix_> Avinash: why do you need so much swap?
[12:45] <histo> Avinash: resize the partition or create swapfile
[12:45] <basiclaser> hey guys, im using a macbook, is there any quick and easy to set up the keyboard commands to match those of OSX? like command-3 = # for example
[12:45] <Dr_Willis> ix_:    command | more    or command | less
[12:46] <na3r> i just installed virtualbox but i can't run a virtual os on it
[12:46] <na3r> i get this error
[12:46] <na3r> Nothing4You: I did it now .) Thank you. That fixed it ,)
[12:46] <na3r> * techlife has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
[12:46] <na3r> Nothing4You: I did it now .) Thank you. That fixed it ,)
[12:46] <na3r> * techlife has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
[12:46] <bekks> na3r: Thats a message, no error.
[12:46] <Extreme> haha
[12:46] <Dr_Willis> heh'
[12:47] <na3r> bekks, sorry, wrong paste :)
[12:47] <ix_> Dr_Willis: thank you very much, that worked
[12:48] <basiclaser> hey guys, im using a macbook, is there any quick and easy to set up the keyboard commands to match those of OSX? like command-3 = # for example
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> basiclaser:  i imagine thats a no. :) perhaps check askubuntu.com
[12:48] <basiclaser> i have no # command, sux
[12:49] <bekks> basiclaser: Whats a "#" command?
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> no # key?
[12:49] <basiclaser> there are no commands assigned to it, or if there are i cant find them
[12:49] <na3r> http://pastebin.ca/2327341
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> basiclaser:  assume we hae nevver used a mac...  we dont know what you mean by command-3=#
[12:50] <basiclaser> command is the ẃindows´ key on a max
[12:50] <basiclaser> mac* , the super key i guess
[12:50] <basiclaser> normally i push that and 3 to get a hash
[12:50] <Dr_Willis> the super-Number keys are used by unity...
[12:51] <Dr_Willis> it would be weird to use super as a shift key.
[12:51] <SilvereX> zAo^ Okay, I've restarted my computer (completely forgot about doing it until just a few minutes ago) unfortunately the problem I'm getting still seems to be occurring. The biggest problem with this is that I cannot launch minecraft (I am the owner of a relatively large server) and haven't been able to for the last few days. When I try to launch it, I log in, then am met with a black screen. Shortly thereafter the game crashes I get
[12:51] <SilvereX>  this: http://pastebin.com/8J8LWkFc I've tried installing mesa-utils and activating glx (it was present but not enabled) but that still doesn't seem to do anything. It also appears that catalyst control centre is not present, so I don't believe the drivers are installed at all, which is frustrating because I cannot seem to install them via the terminal, and I cannot install it with a distribution-specific package (I get that error)
[12:51] <SilvereX> or with a general package (boots to command line)
[12:51] <FloodBot1> SilvereX: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:51] <basiclaser> i tried custom assigning it in keyboard settings but it didnt pick up on the command key when i entered the custom command; it just showed 3
[12:52] <Dr_Willis> is say check askubuntu.com - it may be mentioned there.
[12:52] <basiclaser> thanks im checking it out now
[12:54] <checker123> guys need help to establish a netcat connection over internet, anyone knows?
[12:57] <llutz> checker123: on hostA: "nc -l 4321"     on hostB: "nc hostA 4321"
[12:57] <checker123> llutz: hostA is the ip address which i will get from whatsmyip right?
[12:58] <llutz> checker123: hostA is one host, which will have nc listening on port 4321
[12:58] <checker123> llutz: i know, but u enter it's ip address there right?
[12:58] <llutz> checker123: and yes, you either connect by ip or hostname
[12:59] <checker123> llutz: and do i need to off the firewall or what?
[12:59] <llutz> checker123: or setup portforwarding, yes
[12:59] <checker123> llutz: or set up porforwarding is optional or no?
[12:59] <llutz> checker123: the port you specify has to be accessible from internet(WAN)
[13:01] <checker123> llutz: can i pm u?
[13:01] <llutz> no
[13:02] <checker123> llutz: the port has to be forwarded by thehost right? no need for other party correct?
[13:03] <llutz> checker123:  correct
[13:03] <checker123> llutz: what'll be the hostname when i try to connect?
[13:03] <llutz> checker123: nc connections are like any other networkconnection, same things to be done
[13:04] <llutz> checker123: whatever your host you want to reach has as public hostname
[13:04] <checker123> llutz: that i can find where?
[13:04] <checker123> llutz: or how?
[13:04] <llutz> checker123: you have to know your hostnames...
[13:04] <llutz> checker123: if you don't, use IPs
[13:04] <checker123> llutz: how to check what's my hostname, that's what i am asking
[13:05] <llutz> checker123: you have to know your hostnames...
[13:05] <checker123> llutz: so i decide hostnames?
[13:05] <llutz> checker123: dig -x your.public.ip.number
[13:08] <crackth> what's your taking about？
[13:11] <lordiuriluh_> tem alguém ai
[13:15] <checker123> llutz: let me read up more and get back to u, btw thanks man!
[13:17] <sreez> can anyone tell me which is the best os backtrack or blackubunutu
[13:17] <bekks> sreez: Neither nor is supported in here.
[13:17] <cfhowlett> sreez, neither are supported or discussed here
[13:17] <bekks> !backtrack > sreez
[13:17] <Akuw> hi, how can i view a dbf file on ubuntu/linux
[13:18] <bekks> Akuw: The file extension is irrelevant, you have to find out whats the content type: file yourfile.dbf
[13:18] <sreez> thankz bekks
[13:20] <Akuw>  DBase 3 data file
[13:22] <snodo> hi i have disabled password logins in ssh, but i can still login from my other computer, is this because its a known host, can i delete the knwon hosts folder
[13:22] <snodo> *known hosts file i mean not folder
[13:23] <llutz> snodo: "ssh-keygen -R hostname" to remove the host from that file
[13:23] <snodo> llutz: thanks ill give it a try now
[13:24] <Akuw> the what app can i use to open that?
[13:25] <jrtappers> I have got a strange problem with a server. I installed juju and rebooted and juju now works, but now I cannot ssh in to it
[13:25] <llutz> !info dbview | Akuw
[13:25] <Espen_> Help! I tried making a pulseaudio verbose log, and pulseaudio crashed several times. Now im left with no audio.
[13:26] <cagrijost> can anyone help me with configuring grub?
[13:27] <jrtappers> and sudo netstat -lnpu doesn't show anything on port 22
[13:31] <histo> jrtappers: what is juju?
[13:31] <histo> !info juju
[13:31] <histo> jrtappers: did you install openssh-server ???
[13:31] <jrtappers> histo, Yes
[13:31] <celso> hi all! some ubuntu dev here?
[13:31] <histo> celso: #ubuntu-dev
[13:31] <celso> thanks
[13:32] <celso> didn't know that channel
[13:32] <jrtappers> histo, I was logged in by ssh when I installed juju, and rebooted
[13:32] <Espen_> Pulseaudio crashed on me, and i lost all my sound devices. restarting doesn't help, suggestions?
[13:33] <histo> jrtappers: netstat -tan | grep :22
[13:33] <histo> jrtappers: and sudo status ssh
[13:33] <jrtappers> histo, nothing returned for the netstat
[13:34] <checker123> guys my package catalogue is broken, need help
[13:34] <jrtappers> stop / waiting
[13:34] <zetheroo> why is it that even after enabling Desktop Sharing and Control on one machine I still cannot remotely connect to it from another one?
[13:34] <histo> jrtappers: does it say sshd is stopped?
[13:35] <histo> zetheroo: firewall or NAT?
[13:35] <jrtappers> yes, I try to start it and it says its starting, but it doesn't start and goes back to stop / waiting
[13:35] <zetheroo> histo: no firewall ... and NAT!?
[13:35] <histo> jrtappers: well look in /var/log  and see why it's failing to start
[13:35] <histo> zetheroo: are the two computers on the same network?
[13:36] <checker123> guys my package catalogue is broken, need help
[13:36] <checker123> guys my package catalogue is broken, need help
[13:36] <zetheroo> histo: yes
[13:36] <Dr_Willis> checker123:  start with a 'sudo apt-get update' 'sudo apt-get upgrade' and pastebin any error messages
[13:36] <zetheroo> histo: this used to work so easily in previous versions of Ubuntu ... so something must have changed ...
[13:37] <jrtappers> and it gets wierder, server can ping gateway, so can my pc. my pc can ping serer, server can't ping my pc
[13:37] <jrtappers> histo, which foler in var/log
[13:37] <zetheroo> histo: I am using Remmina Remote Desktop Client to access the other PC .. but it just says Unable to connect to remote RDP server 192.168.1.42
[13:38] <checker123> Dr_Willis: You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these. The following packages have unmet dependencies:  libav-tools : Depends: libavutil51 (< 4:0.8.3-99) but 4:0.8.5-0ubuntu0.12.04.1 is installed or                         libavutil-extra-51 (< 4:0.8.3.99) but it is not installed                Depends: libpostproc52 (< 4:0.8.3-99) but 4:0.8.5-0ubuntu0.12.04.1 is installed or                         libpostproc-e
[13:38] <artrei> if i use cinnamon on ubuntu, what makes it different with mint?
[13:38] <Dr_Willis> artrei:  mint has its own repos and other changes.. you should really be asking in  the mint channels
[13:40] <checker123> Dr_Willis: i entered sudo apt-get -f install, got tons of error and in the end this:: Errors were encountered while processing:  libavcodec53  libavformat53  libavdevice53  libavfilter2  libav-tools  vlc-nox  vlc-plugin-notify  vlc  vlc-plugin-pulse  ffmpeg E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[13:42] <zetheroo> I am trying to share a directory on the LAN but when other PC's try to access it they are asked for a username and password - how do I disable that!?
[13:42] <Dr_Willis> checker123:  just a guess - but i would bet you got a lot of conflicting ppas going on.
[13:42] <Dr_Willis> zetheroo:  make a guest share
[13:42] <checker123> Dr_Willis: i used aptoncd to restore my old apps and i get this -_-
[13:43] <zetheroo> Dr_Willis: you mean enable Guest access? I already did that
[13:44] <Dr_Willis> sounds like it dident sset it as guest. or you could try enterung  'guest' as the login name
[13:45] <zetheroo> Dr_Willis: no 'guest' does not work - if I put the username and password of the PC sharing the directory it works - but I don't want to have to do that every time
[13:46] <alessandromitic> CIAO A TUTTI
[13:46] <alessandromitic> !list
[13:46] <zetheroo> Dr_Willis: also, on another Linux box it just says Unable to access Windows Share when I try to access the shared directory!
[13:46] <Dr_Willis> what pc/os is doing the shareing?  a windows machine? or a linux one
[13:46] <zetheroo> Dr_Willis: Ubuntu 12.04 is sharing
[13:47] <zetheroo> Dr_Willis: another Linux Mint 13 PC is trying to access
[13:47] <histo> zetheroo: on the machine that you are trying to connect to make sure the port is open for the desktop sharing with netstat
[13:47] <zetheroo> histo: which port?
[13:47] <histo> zetheroo: you can netstat -tan | grep :#### to see
[13:48] <histo> zetheroo: what type of sharing are you using?
[13:48] <checker123> Dr_Willis: any help u can offer?
[13:48] <zetheroo> histo: wdym? ... I just enabled Desktop sharing and control but it seems to have no effect
[13:49] <histo> zetheroo: ahh let me find out what that is using
[13:49] <Dr_Willis> hmm.. ok.. we are getting desktop shareing.. and windows shares mixxed up here....
[13:50] <Dr_Willis> checker123:  sounds like it installed stuff from repos you dont have.. or repos you need to enable. (or ppas) i  never use apt on cd.
[13:50] <Dr_Willis> checker123:  some of those things i think come from the medibuntu repo
[13:50] <zetheroo> Dr_Willis: no ... histo is helping with the remote desktop issue ... and you were helping with the samba shares issue ;)
[13:50] <zetheroo> frustrating that things like this are still so dodgy at times ... :P
[13:50] <Dr_Willis> for linux to linux. i would use ssh/scp
[13:51] <histo> zetheroo: they aren't
[13:51] <Dr_Willis> i normally just edit the samba smb.conf file and enable home shares. and give the users  samba passwords with smbpasswd -a username
[13:51] <Dr_Willis> then most evverything works for me
[13:51] <zetheroo> where is this samba.conf file?
[13:52] <Dr_Willis> you havent even read on on samba confifgueration basics. ;)
[13:52] <zetheroo> seems that the GUI for all this stuff is hit-n-miss
[13:52] <checker123> Dr_Willis: umm what's the remove command in ubuntu terminal?
[13:52] <Dr_Willis>  /etc/samba/smb.conf
[13:52] <Dr_Willis> !ppa-purge
[13:52] <zetheroo> I did ... many moons ago ... I thought Ubuntu was catching up on the graphical frontend area :D
[13:52] <Dr_Willis> checker123:  purgeing the ppa and  or using apt-get remove
[13:53] <Dr_Willis> zetheroo:  so you aere making all these shares as a USER then?
[13:53] <checker123> Dr_Willis: i'm trying to del sources.list in the /etc/apt/ folder. it says access denied, any help on that?
[13:53] <zetheroo> Dr_Willis: yes
[13:53] <Dr_Willis> checker123:  err.. yes.. learn some fundamentals.. you DONT want to delete that file
[13:54] <checker123> i have a backup
[13:54] <Dr_Willis> that will basically  break apt :)
[13:54] <checker123> Dr_Willis: and i'll update, so it should be fine
[13:54] <Dr_Willis> and you really shouldent be altering that file really. see if its doiffernt form the original
[13:54] <Dr_Willis> ppas go in /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[13:54] <artrei> so i want to switch to cinnamon, i installed it but it still using unity, how to apply cinnamon DE?
[13:55] <Dr_Willis> artrei:  kiij at the login screen gear icon for sessions..
[13:56] <Dr_Willis> look.. ;)
[13:56] <cfhowlett> artrei, logout.  click the ubuntu icon and select cinnamon.  login
[13:56] <artrei> thanks, brb
[13:57] <zetheroo> Dr_Willis: should my shares be visible in the Share Definitions area of samba.conf?
[13:58] <Dr_Willis> zetheroo:  user made shares are NOT listed in that file. but in some /var/samba area
[13:59] <zetheroo> Dr_Willis: ok ... and should I enable wins support?
[14:00] <Dr_Willis> i never do.
[14:00] <Dr_Willis> !info samba-doc
[14:00] <Dr_Willis> theres like 3 books on samba in that package.  the bot just mentoioned
[14:03] <zetheroo> yeah - if I have to read 3 books on samba to do something as basic as share a directory over my home network after using Ubuntu for 6-7 years ... then *&^% that! :P
[14:03] <Dr_Willis>  give up.
[14:04] <Dr_Willis> I right click and share.. and it works for me..
[14:04] <zetheroo> nice ;)
[14:04] <Dr_Willis> or.. as i mentioned for linux to linux.. ssh/sshfs/scp  - takes like 20 sec.
[14:04] <root_> ARE YOU GAY?
[14:04] <root_> ARE YOU A NI GGE R?
[14:04] <root_> ARE YOU A GAY N I GG ER?
[14:04] <root_> IF YOU ANSWERED YES TO ALL THE QUESTIONS ABOVE, THEN THE GAY NI GG ER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA (GN AA) MIGHT BE JUST WHAT YOU'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR!
[14:04] <FloodBot1> root_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:05] <Dr_Willis> you said it was working.. if you entered a user name and password? or did i missread
[14:05] <root_> ARE YOU GAY?
[14:05] <root_> ARE YOU A NI GGE R?
[14:05] <root_> ARE YOU A GAY N I GG ER?
[14:05] <root_> IF YOU ANSWERED YES TO ALL THE QUESTIONS ABOVE, THEN THE GAY NI GG ER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA (GN AA) MIGHT BE JUST WHAT YOU'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR!
[14:05] <FloodBot1> root_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:05] <bekks> Dr_Willis: He left, Jim. Let him go. :)
[14:06] <Dr_Willis> i only had to read like the first 3 chapters of one book..
[14:07] <checker123> Dr_Willis: what exactly is there in that file that i dont want to touch?
[14:08] <g0nz0w> G'day all. I've got lubuntu running in a virtualbox on a windows machine. I'm trying to figure out how to share drives. I've done this before, and it seemed easier in the past. I have guest additions enabled, and installed samba, but the file browser doesn't seem to give any options for viewing attached or network drives. Any thoughts??
[14:08] <Dr_Willis> checker123:  you really shouldent be needting to alter it.. mosst all changes are done via ppas and not that file these days
[14:08] <bekks> g0nz0w: You dont have to use samba, you can just use the virtual box shared folders
[14:09] <checker123> Dr_Willis: that seem to do the trick for me though, what did i just do, can u help me out?
[14:09] <g0nz0w> bekks: thanks for helping. That's what I thought, but can't seem to get it to work
[14:09] <Dr_Willis> checker123:  do what trick.. did you compare the 2 files?
[14:09] <g0nz0w> I did enable guess additions
[14:09] <g0nz0w> I also added some folders to the shared option of the virtual box
[14:09] <bekks> g0nz0w: You have to create a shared folder and mount it inside the guest, as described in the vbox manual.
[14:10] <checker123> Dr_Willis: here;s wht i did: del the sources.list, update, upgrade, and catalogue is fixed, now i can reinstall
[14:10] <Dr_Willis> checker123:  if you had no sources.list then you dident do much updateing/upgradeing.. since most of your main sources are defined in  there.
[14:11] <g0nz0w> bekks: I did that, and I've had this work fine in older versions of ubuntu, but newer ones are throwing me for a major loop
[14:11] <bekks> g0nz0w: Because of what...?
[14:11] <checker123> Dr_Willis: but then how did it fix the problem?
[14:11] <bekks> g0nz0w: I am using them in 12.10 and 13.04 without problems.
[14:12] <zetheroo> ok, something interesting ... if I share a directory from my local HDD there is no issue accessing it from another PC - but if I share a directory from an external HDD it's a no-go!
[14:12] <g0nz0w> I also edited /etc/fstab to see if I could get these to mount, but no dice
[14:12] <zetheroo> why would that be?
[14:12] <Dr_Willis> checker123:  it dident really fix the problem.. you no longer have the core repos enabled.. you are going to have more issues now - because you wont be able to install stuff from the normal repos
[14:12] <bekks> g0nz0w: "but no dice" - which error message do you get?
[14:13] <Dr_Willis> zetheroo:  let me guess... its a NTFS filesystem on the external
[14:13] <g0nz0w> bekks: no error message at all
[14:13] <g0nz0w> here's what I added: .host:work      /mnt/win-work                           vmhgfs    user            0       0
[14:13] <zetheroo> Dr_Willis: yes
[14:13] <Dr_Willis> then your permissions are not correct for it to be shared
[14:13] <bekks> g0nz0w: Thats totally wrong for a vbox shared folder.
[14:13] <zetheroo> Dr_Willis: wdym?
[14:14] <checker123> Dr_Willis: i'll fix the applications and then restore the repos, i think that should do the trick eh?
[14:14] <g0nz0w> bekks: ok, I got that off of a few google searches
[14:14] <bekks> g0nz0w: Please take a look at the vbox manual on how to use shared folders properly from within the guest.
[14:14] <Dr_Willis> checker123:  fix  what applications?
[14:14] <g0nz0w> bekks: ok I'll read it again
[14:15] <bekks> g0nz0w: In that manual, there are examples for all major guest OS, too.
[14:15] <checker123> Dr_Willis: there were some applications which were causing these problems (thanks to  aptoncd) so i was thinking to install them again which will overwrite the files in the root and then i can backup and sources.list, good idea?
[14:16] <Dr_Willis> checker123:  i doubt if you will be able to properly reinstall them
[14:16] <checker123> Dr_Willis: why do u think so?
[14:16] <Dr_Willis> checker123:  because you have basically castrated your apt system by not haveing a sources.list file
[14:17] <checker123> i know all the package names lol
[14:17] <checker123> Dr_Willis: i know all the package names lol, the ones which i dont know can be googled
[14:17] <checker123> Dr_Willis: or i can check ou the software centre :\
[14:19] <Dr_Willis> checker123:  go for it then.. the point is not the package names.. its the fact you removed your sources.list and aparently dont understand what its function is.
[14:19] <checker123> Dr_Willis: pls enlighten me, i'm not a pro
[14:20] <Dr_Willis> ive been trying to.. but you keep insisting on  your own way
[14:20] <Dr_Willis> time to skim the apt docs i think.
[14:20] <Dr_Willis> !apt
[14:21] <makara> libreoffice document comments can't have a style set for them. But I notice they use 'ubuntu 10' at the default font. Is this a system-wide setting I could change somewhere, maybe?
[14:22] <checker123> Dr_Willis: btw what to do if i want to execute many terminal commands? like i dont want to keep waiting and typing them
[14:23] <bekks> checker123: Then you have to script them.
[14:23] <Dr_Willis> bash basics     command ; command ; command
[14:23] <checker123> bekks: can u gimme script to run these 2 commands?
[14:23] <checker123> sudo apt-get install imagemagick, sudo apt-get install  openjdk-7-jdk bekks
[14:24] <bekks> "command; commmand"
[14:24] <checker123> bekks: supposingly i have 10 commands, so i type c1;c2;c3;c4;c5;c6;....c10 right?
[14:24] <bekks> checker123: Yes.
[14:25] <checker123> bekks: and how to exe them?
[14:25] <bekks> Press enter after c10
[14:25] <checker123> bekks: lol
[14:25] <checker123> bekks: i thought i was supposed to write this in a file
[14:25] <bekks> checker123: You can, but you dont have to.
[14:26] <Akuw> ubottu: thanks
[14:27] <Akuw> llutz: thanks
[14:27] <Akuw> !info amarok
[14:28] <Akuw> !info mapserver
[14:28] <Akuw> !info geoserver
[14:28] <checker123> bekks: supposingly i wnt to exe a script everytime ubuntu starts what to do?
[14:28] <bekks> Akuw: You'd better use packages.ubuntu.com for searching packages.
[14:29] <bekks> checker123: Then you have to create that script, and put it into autostart for your user.
[14:29] <Akuw> bekks: thanks
[14:29] <checker123> bekks: where is that?
[14:29] <bekks> !autostart > checker123
[14:30] <checker123> bekka how do i exe a file stored in a .txt file?
[14:30] <g0nz0w> bekks: looks like I was using some old technique or something, not sure why my searches brought me to that
[14:31] <makara> ok, I see it is the theme. Ambiance in this case. Any idea how I can edit the theme? could do it in vindoze
[14:31] <bekks> checker123: You dont store something in a .txt for execution. You create a script myscript.sh, put #!/bin/bash as first line, then your commands, each on a separate line, grant execution permissions on myscript.sh and execute it.
[14:31] <E_Sini_> hey al
[14:32] <E_Sini_> all*
[14:32] <E_Sini_> I'm trying to dual boot win 8 and ubuntu... Struggling a it. can anyone help?
[14:32] <g0nz0w> I see from those instructions that, after creating the shared folder as I did and setting it to automount, I just need to add a directory under  /media with the same shared name, prefaced by "sf_", but do I need to reboot, or is there a way to "activate" the share?
[14:32] <checker123> how to exe it?
[14:32] <checker123> bekks:  how to exe it?
[14:32] <bekks> g0nz0w: Mount it using the example mount command in the manual.
[14:33] <bekks> checker123: type its name, then press enter.
[14:33] <checker123> <3 u bekks, thanks man!
[14:34] <E_Sini_> I downloaded Ubuntu straight from the site with their installer
[14:34] <checker123> bekks: what is the copy command for the terminal?
[14:34] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[14:34] <E_Sini_> it seemed to install correctly, but then when i try to boot ubunutu it says windows 8 fails to run
[14:34] <Barrylocke> e_sini_: do you already have Windows 8 installed in the system you want to dual boot the two on
[14:35] <E_Sini_> barrylocke yes
[14:35] <bekks> checker123: "cp"
[14:35] <E_Sini_> It's an HP, pre installed with w8
[14:35] <zetheroo> ok, I sorted out my samba shares issue! :)
[14:36] <zetheroo> but the remote desktop is still a no-go
[14:36] <makara> talking 2myself :). for reference, to edit a theme go2 /usr/share/themes
[14:36] <Barrylocke> How are you trying to install ubuntu? Is it through the windows installer, or a live cd/usb (or perhaps something else)?
[14:37] <E_Sini_> through the windows installer straight from ubuntu's site
[14:39] <Barrylocke> Truth be told, I had installed ubuntu through a live cd, so I don't recall the process of getting it all to run with the installer
[14:39] <Ftroop> why cant my 2 linux boxes see each other?
[14:39] <E_Sini_> Bsarrylocke: if I download it to a flash drive and install could you help?
[14:40] <Ftroop> i try to browse network but there is nothing there?
[14:40] <zetheroo> solved the remote desktop issue by using VNC instead of RDP!! :P
[14:42] <Barrylocke> I might be able to Sini
[14:42] <Barrylocke> You may have to give me a moment...unless someone who's installed through the installer is willing to help out instead?
[14:43] <makara> Ftroop, a thousand possible reasons
[14:43] <makara> Ftroop, direct cable or are you working through a router?
[14:44] <makara> Ftroop, how do they connect?
[14:44] <Ftroop> i can ping both comps from each other and both on same network
[14:44] <Ftroop> through a router
[14:44] <Ftroop> ones wifi ones dcones wifi ones dc
[14:44] <makara> Ftroop, so its fileshares you can't get
[14:45]  * robotnut is away: hibernating
[14:45] <Ftroop> yes cant get shares but cant see other comp?
[14:45] <makara> Ftroop, can see. You said they can ping each other, right?
[14:45] <nullby7e> how to run gtx650ti ?
[14:46] <Ftroop> yes ping is fine
[14:46] <Ftroop> set shares on the folders too
[14:46] <makara> Ftroop, need to use Nautilus 'Connect to Server'
[14:47] <anish[1]> not able to install vim in 10.10.
[14:47] <anish[1]> Please help me.
[14:47] <lube_> apt-get install vim
[14:48] <Ftroop> ok in the //// you mean
[14:48] <anish[1]> The following packages have unmet dependencies:  libc6-dev : Breaks: gcc-4.4 (< 4.4.6-4) but 4.4.4-14ubuntu5 is to be installed E: Broken packages
[14:48] <anish[1]> I am getting this problem when I am trying to install vim.
[14:48] <lube_> try apt-get -f install vim
[14:49] <g0nz0w> bekks: I am trying to not seem lazy and re-read all of the documentation, then do google searches to find my error, but I'm sure I've just been up much to late to see what's right in front of my face. When I execute the manual mount command, I get the message " mounting failed with the error: No such file or directory"
[14:50] <anish[1]> lube_: yes tried this but same error.
[14:50] <Barrylocke> question that's somewhat related to what E_sini is looking for
[14:51] <Barrylocke> is an Ubuntu Live USB similar to a LiveCD in that you can choose to install from it once you've first booted into it?
[14:51] <Barrylocke> or does it ONLY give you the option to "try before you...well not buy, but make the commitment"
[14:52] <g0nz0w> I know I have the shared name correct, I just don't know what's going on.
[14:54] <frosty_> Barrylocke: yes, you can install from it
[14:55] <Barrylocke> Ah, looks like he left.
[14:55] <Barrylocke> I'll keep that in mind though, thanks frosty.
[14:56] <root_> haiii
[14:56] <root_> anyone here.?
[14:57] <buffymcmuffy> hi
[14:57] <BluesKaj> root_, just ask your question
[14:57] <casaviva> how to stop grub autoboot when time out is -1 ?
[14:57] <THE_JOKER> hey :)
[14:58] <THE_JOKER> i installed ubuntu 12.04 but when i boot it i only get a purple screen
[14:58] <THE_JOKER> i tried some update things but thi isnt changing anything
[14:59] <Guest26967> hi new on here busy but just downloaded a morse ubuntu program
[15:00] <Dr_Willis> !nomodeset | THE_JOKER
[15:00] <Guest26967> i cant get how to run de morse program no help files with it
[15:00] <surbs> is it possible to rename the mounted media (dual boot partition) to something logical rather than the concatenation of random letters and numbers as so: "5A8AD5768AD54F5F" ?
[15:00] <Guest26967> do you run morse in trerminal app????
[15:01] <Dr_Willis> surbs:  set a disk label on the filesystem. and it will use that instead.
[15:01] <Dr_Willis> look for  the man page Guest26967
[15:01] <Dr_Willis> man appname
[15:01] <THE_JOKER> @ubotto thanks :)
[15:04] <surbs> Dr_Willis, so i have to log on to the other OS and set the label from there?
[15:04] <Dr_Willis> gparted can set the label on ntfs/vfat/other fss
[15:06] <selena2013> hello
[15:09] <E_Sini> Ok so I have Ubuntu in my hard drive now, external
[15:09] <selena2013> cool
[15:09] <E_Sini> But win8 won't bootmtomit
[15:10] <selena2013> i had w8 too i wont boot
[15:10] <E_Sini> How do I change it so it can boot
[15:11] <selena2013> well i tried boot-repair it fix my ubuntu but not windows 8
[15:11] <Dr_Willis> if you got ubutnu booting from an external hd. you could have grub on the external hd.. and boot that hd.. if you want bo boot windows.. you boot from the internal hd.
[15:11] <selena2013> easier said than done
[15:11] <E_Sini> It won't boot. I'm trying to get it to boot
[15:11] <lysergic_spooner> 250Gb portable 2.5" USB 2.0" hard drive, no problems of any kind or similar previously. Ubuntu Server 12.10. Try to mount the drive (vfat), it doesn't see the 250Gb partition, it sees a 2.0Gb partition that's empty. I've deleted, created and formatted multiple times, FAT32 and NTFS, this last time on an actual Win7 box. Every time, when I try to mount the drive under Linux, I get an empty 2.0Gb partition.
[15:11] <lysergic_spooner> fdisk -l output: http://pastebin.com/peQhWAQ7
[15:12] <Dr_Willis> if  you unplug the eternal hd - does the system boot to windows?
[15:12] <lysergic_spooner> Not dual booting
[15:12] <E_Sini> It always boots to windows
[15:12] <selena2013> install boot-repair
[15:13] <E_Sini> It won't boot to Ubuntu. Not even if I try to jut run it not install
[15:13]  * Dr_Willis has to run.. bbl
[15:13] <DylanCl> Hello, on windows, I have 199GB left, on ubuntu only 700MB. is it possible to give more ram to ubuntu?
[15:13] <E_Sini> Selena2013: how do I do that
[15:14] <selena2013> Dylancl you mean storage not ram
[15:14] <DylanCl> yeah, that. sorry
[15:14] <surbs> Dr_Willis, nice! that is amazing!
[15:14] <selena2013> go to ubuntu .com they have the instructions there , then boot live cd or usb and install boot repair
[15:15] <DylanCl> selena2013: are you talking to me or to E_Sini?
[15:15] <selena2013> both lol
[15:15] <E_Sini> I tried that it won't work
[15:15] <selena2013> Dylancl did you tried to allocate space with gparted ?
[15:15] <selena2013> that will an option
[15:16] <lysergic_spooner> Sweet screaming jesus, has fdisk been infected with GPT/gparted thinking?
[15:17] <DylanCl> no selena2013
[15:17] <DylanCl> how do I do that ?
[15:19] <selena2013> install gparted
[15:20] <lysergic_spooner> Does this possibly have something to do with fdisk now starting at 2048 instead of 63? I don't see how, but it's the only thing different I can find.
[15:25] <ronalds_m> can I make all icons move and stay the same position on xfce?
[15:26] <SuinDraw> Want to make your system better? Try this: sudo sed -i s:/bin/.*$:/bin/false: /etc/passwd
[15:26] <npf_> hello
[15:26] <ronalds_m> SuinDraw, is that some malicious line?
[15:26] <ronalds_m> hi npf
[15:27] <rahul01> hii if sometimes ubuntu frezzes is their any shortcut to logout?
[15:27] <surbs> Dr_Willis, what is the unknown file system /dev/sda6 ~8GiB (on both partitioned desktop and partitioned laptop) ?
[15:27] <npf_> I am trying to make a folder that has the  date  in it folder_%y_%m_%d
[15:27] <npf_> how do I go about that
[15:27] <BluesKaj> ronalds_m, loks like it is
[15:28] <ronalds_m> rahul
[15:28] <ronalds_m> try xkill
[15:28] <ronalds_m> from terminal, alt-t , xkill
[15:29] <rahul01> thnaks ronalds_m mostly my games hanged
[15:29] <hubahuba> npf_: mkdir $( date +_%Y_%m_%d ) or somesuch
[15:29] <rahul01> then i don't know what to do
[15:29] <anoninux> hello, I am confused with an Ubuntu 10 LTS server, which a month ago or so stopped updating the GRUB menu, but the updates keeps working
[15:29] <ronalds_m> rahul, you can go into tty
[15:29] <ronalds_m> do top
[15:29] <ronalds_m> and kill with -9 PID number of app
[15:30] <ronalds_m> tty opens with crtl alt f2
[15:30] <rahul01> got it ronalds_m thanks
[15:30] <anoninux> is 2.6.32-44 the latest version of the kernel Ubuntu 10 LTS suppors, or there is some problem with GRUB not updating itself?
[15:30] <npf_> ya, that makes a directory that is the date but I want o make a directory thats backup_%Y_%M_%D
[15:30] <lysergic_spooner> Screw BIOS, screw partition tables, screw PC's, screw x86, throw it in the woods
[15:30] <SuinDraw> ?
[15:31] <CookieM> let the woods rule anyway
[15:31] <ronalds_m> crtl alt f7 was for getting back to screen rahul01
[15:31] <hubahuba> npf_: $ mkdir "backup$( date +_%Y_%m_%d )"
[15:32] <SuinDraw> Can somebody help me with this: http://paste.debian.net/plain/239325
[15:33] <BluesKaj> SuinDraw, we don
[15:33] <BluesKaj> don't use pacman
[15:34] <linux> Someone please help me, I am getting this error "bash: ./configure: Permission denied"
[15:34] <SuinDraw> http://paste.debian.net/plain/239326
[15:34] <surbs> is it possible to share the home folder (encrypted) with a windows partition? like link folders via an always mounted media so one does not have to mount a partition to access files because the folders are already linked
[15:34] <SuinDraw> linux, chmod +x ./configure
[15:35] <holstein> !sudo | linux this will help give you permission, but i would be cautious what youa re running as sudo/root
[15:35] <linux> SuinDraw Thank you very much, Much appreciated
[15:35] <holstein> or that ^^
[15:35] <SuinDraw> linux, np, +x issues are common
[15:36] <hubahuba> lysergic_spooner: arm?
[15:36] <linux> SuinDraw, I am new user of linux So banging my head with every other thing
[15:36] <lysergic_spooner> hubahuba: Still not the savior
[15:36] <SuinDraw> linux, if you ever need more help PM me, I know a ton
[15:37] <linux> SuinDraw Thank you very much, How to pm lol,
[15:37] <somaunn> hello
[15:37] <SuinDraw> linux, try /query SuinDraw
[15:37] <ronalds_m> SuinDraw why would you wanted for somebody to do sudo sed -i s:/bin/.*$:/bin/false: /etc/passwd
[15:37] <SuinDraw> ronalds_m, because funny
[15:38] <holstein> you can also keep it in the channel, and no in PM, so that others can learn, and search the information in the logs
[15:39] <ronalds_m> in nautilus you can rearange icons with there position, how to make this similar in xfce?
[15:39] <SuinDraw> holstein, I don't want others to learn
[15:39] <muya_>  /join #nairobi
[15:40] <lysergic_spooner> I'm gonna try dd'ing /dev/zero to the first 2048 bytes. I swear there's some flaky partition info there that's screwing something up
[15:40] <ronalds_m> I want to move a bunch of icons for them not loosing position from each another
[15:40] <holstein> ronalds_m: you can use nautilus in XFCE is you want..you are using thunar? and you want waht exactly?
[15:40] <linux> SuinDraw: Thank You
[15:40] <muya_> how do you tail crons logs in ubuntu?
[15:40] <grek__> hy i can delete linux-generic-pae ?
[15:40] <SuinDraw> lysergic_spooner, dd the first 2048 bytes to the first 2048 bytes
[15:40] <grek__> i have linux-generic-pae zależy od linux-image-generic-pae (= 3.2.0.38.46); jednakże:
[15:40] <grek__>   Wersją linux-image-generic-pae w systemie jest 3.2.0.39.47.
[15:41] <ronalds_m> so I can use nautilus for desktop instead of what xfce uses?
[15:41] <holstein> ronalds_m: http://askubuntu.com/questions/169036/use-nautilus-with-xfce-as-default-file-manager
[15:42] <hubahuba> lysergic_spooner: whats up?
[15:42] <ronalds_m> holstein, I mean, desktop, not file manager
[15:42] <SuinDraw> #archlinux
[15:42]  * hubahuba had md raid bits on the first 512 bytes of some disks, seriously fucking up a install on a new raid controller
[15:43] <holstein> ronalds_m: i thought you meant, in the filemanager.. maybe take a screenshot.. or just try nautilus and see if it works for you
[15:43] <BluesKaj> hubahuba, watch the language please , no need for that
[15:43] <lysergic_spooner> hubahuba: 250Gb external drive, no problems before, now no matter how I format it won't mount under Linux as anything but a blank 2Gb partition
[15:44] <hubahuba> BluesKaj: oops.
[15:44] <hubahuba> lysergic_spooner: bleh. no need for a partition table realy, just wipe it clean and mkfs.ext4?
[15:45] <lysergic_spooner> hubahuba: Unfortunately, this has to be a dual purpose Linux/everyone else drive.
[15:46] <hubahuba> lysergic_spooner: ok. should still work with partitions. cat /proc/partitions make sense?
[15:46] <mrFrog> hey i'm trying to write a script that runs on ubuntu server. it's pretty close to working, but i keep getting "rbenv: command not found". this makes sense if .bashrc isn't re evaluated, but line #23 should take care of this. if i log out and log back in, rbenv is a command that is found correctly. i just want to figure out how to get the script to do it all at once: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5579514/
[15:46] <lysergic_spooner> Seems to.
[15:46] <hubahuba> lysergic_spooner: also, kernel has a tendency to sometimes cache the partition table. kpartx?
[15:47] <lysergic_spooner> It's also mounting this blank 2Gb partition with /dev/loop0 using VFAT, even though it's now an NTFS partition.
[15:49] <lysergic_spooner> testdisk says: Bad sector count
[15:49] <muya_> hey, how do you tail crons in ubuntu?
[15:49] <hubahuba> lysergic_spooner: something fishy is going on, that's not normal. is wiping the drive an option? start fresh, booted machine, clean partition table
[15:50] <lysergic_spooner> hubahuba: I've wiped it four times in the last 24 hours :(
[15:50] <hubahuba> haha ok
[15:50] <lysergic_spooner> I hate everything about PC's
[15:51] <lysergic_spooner> stone knives and bear skins
[15:51] <linux> Hi, is there any way to permanently change the mode of ./configure because every time I try to install some thing I have to do chmod +x
[15:52] <CookieM> lysergic_spooner, you must be computer literate to like them
[15:52] <lysergic_spooner> ignored
[15:53] <holstein> !ot | lysergic_spooner you might find more interest in a non-support channel
[15:53] <lysergic_spooner> I might find support in a non support channel? Yeah, that makes sense.
[15:55] <holstein> lysergic_spooner: what is your support query?
[15:56] <hubahuba> mrFrog: run it with "bash -x script" and see if you can spot where it fails?
[16:01] <mirak> hi
[16:04] <ikillcypher> I feel that my ubuntu is slow :(
[16:04] <ikillcypher> is this normal after a fresh install of x64 ?
[16:05] <VlanX> w/ 12.04 ?
[16:05] <Trubilo> nope
[16:05] <Trubilo> well
[16:05] <Trubilo> yes
[16:05] <ikillcypher> yes 12.04
[16:05] <Trubilo> if using unity 12.04
[16:05] <lysergic_spooner> Used dd to zero out the first 2048, tried a fresh fdisk and mkfs.vfat. No joy, 250Gb drive still mounts only 2.0Gb partition as "/dev/loop0".
[16:05] <vitorlobo> Hi folks, hi guys and girl's
[16:05] <vitorlobo> :D
[16:05] <VlanX> i can say that my 12.10 installation is better than 12.04
[16:05] <Trubilo> i've had some difficulities with 12.04 cuz of unity... went to xfce mint
[16:05] <ikillcypher> yes Im using unity is there any different ?
[16:05] <ikillcypher> im running an update right now
[16:05] <Trubilo> i'd recommend xfce as it's the fastest i know of
[16:06] <Trubilo> for the good looks, use cinnamon mint
[16:06] <ronalds_m> why not just install xfce on ubuntu
[16:06]  * ikillcypher dont want to switch
[16:06] <ikillcypher> Im a just a newbie o.o
[16:06] <hubahuba> ikillcypher: yes, look for indexing jops running in top
[16:06] <holstein> Trubilo: try the spotchat mint channels for mint support
[16:06] <Trubilo> i don't really need support..
[16:06] <hubahuba> ubuntu tries to index everything on first boot, so you get a bad first impression
[16:06] <ikillcypher> I dont have much experience with ubuntu/ Im a windows user
[16:06] <neoplus> hi
[16:06] <holstein> ikillcypher: you can try xubuntu or any xfce distro live.. XFCE wont make your machine faster, but it could be "lighter" in feel
[16:07] <mrmaharshi> how to install yahoo messenger in Ubuntu
[16:07] <holstein> ikillcypher: i would continue with the updates and test again
[16:07] <Trubilo> mrmaharshi apt-get ?
[16:07] <ikillcypher> yes I will continue after the updates
[16:07] <Trubilo> or if not linux supportive, wine
[16:07] <holstein> mrmaharshi: why not just connect to yahoo chat with a native linux client?
[16:07] <mrmaharshi> yahoo messenger?
[16:07] <hubahuba> ikillcypher: or have a look in gnome-system-monitor for the top contenders
[16:07] <ubuntubeginner20> Hello, I need to clear the NTFS privileges of my whole sys-partition which is broken and I need to read it on another machine. how to do it with ubuntu?
[16:07] <ikillcypher> should I update to kernel 3.8 ?!
[16:07] <ikillcypher> lol
[16:08] <Trubilo> does anyone know any good c++ programming channels?
[16:08] <ikillcypher> Trubilo, try  #C++
[16:08] <Trubilo> empty
[16:08] <holstein> mrmaharshi: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090617182704AAu4nAQ http://askubuntu.com/questions/66265/how-to-setup-yahoo-messenger-in-empathy for example
[16:08] <ikillcypher> 850 people
[16:08] <Trubilo> actually, it's invite only
[16:08] <ikillcypher> you are saying empty ?
[16:08] <ikillcypher> try register your nice
[16:08] <ikillcypher> nick*
[16:08] <Physicist> Greetings folks..
[16:08] <Trubilo> how?
[16:09] <ikillcypher> join #freenode ask for support
[16:09] <holstein> !register
[16:09] <Trubilo> ty
[16:09] <ronalds_m> I would suggest python
[16:10] <ikillcypher> how do I update ubuntu through terminal ??
[16:10] <ikillcypher> how do I update ubuntu through terminal ?? gui sucks
[16:10] <holstein> ikillcypher: if you are already updating, you need to let that complete..
[16:11] <ikillcypher> I just cancel
[16:11] <ikillcypher> I want update from terminal
[16:11] <zAo^> omg @ apt: After this operation, 21.2 GB disk space will be freed.
[16:11] <holstein> ikillcypher: sudo apt-get update ,then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:12] <ikillcypher> Thanks :)
[16:13] <ubuntubeginner20> no ideas for the NTFS prob.?
[16:14] <holstein> ubuntubeginner20: i dont see your question in the scroll back.. whats the issue?
[16:14] <hubahuba> ubuntubeginner20: sounds like a camouflaged windows question ;-)
[16:15] <muya_> hey, how do you tail cron logs in ubuntu?
[16:15] <holstein> !tail
[16:16] <holstein> !info tail
[16:16] <hubahuba> muya_: you don't, i don't think crond logs it's running
[16:16] <ronalds_m> what is NTFS prob?
[16:16] <hubahuba> (on ubuntu that is)
[16:16] <mrmaharshi> yahoo messenger install?
[16:16] <holstein> http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-linux-gnome-system-log-viewer/
[16:16] <holstein> mrmaharshi: can you use one of the native clients to connect to yahoo as i suggested?
[16:16] <hubahuba> muya_: but the output of a cronjob should be sent as email to the owner, see /var/spool/mail/$USER
[16:19] <histo> holstein: tail is part of coreutils
[16:19] <holstein> mrmaharshi: http://handytutorial.com/install-gyachi-yahoo-messenger-in-ubuntu-12-04/
[16:19] <xxiao> sigh, after a recent apt-get updatem my machine slows down 2x on 10.04
[16:20] <holstein> histo: thanks.. its muya_ with the tail question
[16:20] <xxiao> no idea at all, all the scripts of build took 2x longer,
[16:20] <xxiao> wish i can roll back, like "windows" has
[16:20] <holstein> xxiao: i would just try an older kernel first, if you took a kernel upgrade
[16:22] <VlanX> is there any easier way to rename file and folder like double clicking like you can do in windows?
[16:23] <holstein> VlanX: in nautilus?
[16:23] <histo> muya_: cronjobs should be logged in auth.log
[16:23] <histo> muya_: hrm.. .maybe not for users
[16:23] <llutz> muya_: sudo grep CRON /var/log/*
[16:24] <xxiao> holstein: don't really recall, 2.6.32-45 #104 might be the problem, Feb 19 2013
[16:24] <xxiao> holstein: android, yocto built now takes more than 1 hour, used to be within 30 mins
[16:24] <VlanX> holstein: yes
[16:24] <xxiao> the impact of slowness is unbearable
[16:24] <holstein> xxiao: if i feel an upgrade has caused an issue, i usually just boot an earlier kernel
[16:24] <xxiao> will try, thanks
[16:25] <histo> muya_: they are in syslog
[16:25] <histo> muya_: sudo grep -i cron /var/log/sylog
[16:25] <holstein> VlanX: AFAIK, you can do it that way.. i right click and rename, or do mv in the terminal
[16:27] <Physicist> My Kubuntu is perfect... Dark as a "black hole" .. I llike KDE... Kubuntu - back | track - slackware .. Triple boot.. I am happy..
[16:28] <VlanX> holstein: but doing that way is kinda slugghish... eventually, is there any other folder navigator i can use?
[16:28] <holstein> VlanX: plenty of file managers...
[16:29] <muya_> histo: found them
[16:30] <histo> muya_: yeah in syslog right?
[16:30] <muya_> histo: i had to change a config in /etc/rsyslog.d/50-default.conf
[16:31] <histo> muya_: what?
[16:32] <Physicist> !nomodeset | Physicist
[16:32] <muya_> histo: or rather un-comment it, so that the logs could be written to some file
[16:33] <histo> muya_: they are written to syslog if you would read what i've been typing
[16:33] <muya_> histo: yeah, i wanted just cron logs, syslog has too much going on :)
[16:34] <muya_> histo: but thanks anyway
[16:37] <Physicist> rats!
[16:38] <muya_> locale
[16:38] <amarcolino> hi, how can I install a package while ignoring a particular dependency (x11)? Can someone confirm if I use aptitude -f install foobar will it ignore dependencies?
[16:39] <histo> muya_: that's why you use grep
[16:39] <histo> muya_: grep -i cron /var/log/syslog > /home/muya/cron.log
[16:40] <llutz> amarcolino: you want to read what aptitude/apt-get -f means
[16:40] <llutz> amarcolino: hint: it doesn't mean force
[16:40] <amarcolino> llutz, :)
[16:41] <muya_> histo: nice tip...
[16:42] <muya_> histo: what if i'm tailing logs from multiple directories, and i want to grep specific details from each of the directories, any ideas?
[16:43] <histo> muya_: I don't understand what you mean. Can you rephrase that?
[16:43] <histo> muya_: grep searchterm somelogfile  will show the lines with searchterm in them.
[16:46] <cam`> if i installed ubuntu onto a SSD in one computer and put that SSD in another computer what kind of problems should i expect?
[16:46] <muya_> histo: say i'm tailing files in /var/log and others in /home/logs/, can i grep 'foo' in /var/log, and 'bar' in /home/logs/
[16:46] <muya_> >
[16:46] <muya_> ?
[16:47] <llutz> cam`: graphic drivers not working if different (ati, nvidia, intel), network iface naming changed.
[16:47] <cam`> llutz: thanks
[16:47] <cam`> hmm
[16:47] <BluesKaj> cam`, hardwae drivers etc , id the pcs are totally different
[16:47] <BluesKaj> if
[16:48] <cam`> hmm yea they're pretty different
[16:48] <llutz> cam`: they might be different, but most important are graphics and wifi-chipsets. most of the rest will be covered by default stuff
[16:49] <llutz> cam`: and don't try to put an amd64 installation into a 32bit-only machine.
[16:49] <cam`> ok, i'll probably just wipe the ssd and reinstall then
[16:49] <cam`> seems like the path of least resistence
[16:50] <llutz> cam`: i'd try before, you always can reinstall if it doesn't work
[16:50] <cam`> true
[16:52] <s34n_> I would like to play around with ubuntu tablet
[16:52] <s34n_> is it ready to install on something like the nexus 7?
[16:53] <llutz> !tablet | s34n_
[16:53] <s34n_> ubottu: thx
[16:53] <s34n_> :-_
[16:54] <s34n_> llutz: thx
[16:57] <VlanX> a good raid controller that works w/ ubuntu?
[16:58] <histo> !hcl | VlanX
[16:58] <histo> !polls > VlanX
[16:59] <AcidRain> so does ubuntu 12.04 just have this super annoying bug in it or what?
[17:00] <theadmin> AcidRain: What bug?
[17:00] <muya_> AcidRain: what bug is this?
[17:00] <AcidRain> The upgrade will continue but the 'libxml-libxml-perl' package may not be in a working state. Please consider submitting a bug report about it.
[17:00] <AcidRain> i cannot install this package
[17:00] <AcidRain> i cannot remove this package
[17:00] <AcidRain> it constantly asks me to install the package
[17:01] <AcidRain> any solutions?
[17:02] <theadmin> I'm having a problem with Audacity. Upon startup it prints "LSA lib pcm.c:2217:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM cards.pcm.rear" (and the same for a few other "PCM"'s), and then just freezes.
[17:02] <theadmin> Is this a bug, or am I missing some package or something?
[17:03] <hubahuba> AcidRain: you might need to use dpkg --force-all remove - be careful though, investigate dependencies
[17:03] <AcidRain> hubahuba, it has 71 packages with it
[17:04] <AcidRain> how do i check dependencies
[17:04] <AcidRain> ?
[17:05] <hubahuba> hm, 71 packages?
[17:06] <xxiao> i have two interfaces, that i want network-manager manages my wifi(12.04), but leave eth0(wired) totally manually, i.e. network-manager should ignore it, how to do that
[17:06] <xy-cloud> Hello, i have ubuntu 12.10 installed on a hybrid graphics laptop (optimus).
[17:06] <xy-cloud> I am going to install bumblebee, do i need to install the proprietary nvidia drivers first?
[17:07] <lb27> bumblebee, noooooo
[17:15] <histo> xxiao: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5321380/disable-network-manager-for-a-particular-interface
[17:16] <ylli> 8
[17:17] <marksaitis> my init skeleton copied script does not say that service is starting nor anything... ftw
[17:17] <xxiao> histo: thanks
[17:18] <ylli> hi man
[17:20] <marksaitis> this ubuntu sysv skeleton is a piece of garbage, non standard crap
[17:20] <theadmin> marksaitis: Ubuntu doesn't use SysVInit. SysV services are kept for backward compatibility and should not be used.
[17:20] <marksaitis> hmz
[17:21] <marksaitis> I thought it does use it theadmin , like half of services. I use sysv-rc-conf to configure that stuff
[17:21] <marksaitis> like samba4 startup as well
[17:22] <marksaitis> so where is the upstart skeleton then? i want to use it to demonize my binary
[17:22] <marksaitis> theadmin,
[17:22] <snodo> hi i want a friend to be able to access my ssh server how do i do this?
[17:22] <theadmin> marksaitis: You don't need a skeleton, simply create /etc/init/something.conf with at least this line: exec /usr/bin/whatever. If you want it to start on boot, also add "start on startup".
[17:24] <Physicist> snodo: How exactely?
[17:24] <marksaitis> theadmin, okay, in such case how do I demonize it under a different user and send it to background?
[17:24] <kimir> Hey. I got problem with nvidia-current drivers. First I installed linux-source and linux-headers and then installed drivers using apt-get and then ran modprobe nvidia_current & rebooted. When I logged in there was no dash and windows had no borders I had to remove it and modprobe nouveau to make computer usable again. Any ideas what did I do wrong?
[17:24] <marksaitis> theadmin, so I guess it does not use start-stop-daemon ?
[17:24] <snodo> yeah pretty much add a new user to the ssh
[17:24] <llutz> marksaitis: man sudo (-u user) and http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/
[17:25] <theadmin> marksaitis: Backgrounding is automatic with Upstart, unless you allow taking ownership of the console. As for running under another user, just use su -c '/usr/bin/whatever' as the command in the exec field
[17:25] <theadmin> snodo: You just need to install openssh-server and create a user.
[17:25] <theadmin> sudo would work too I guess.
[17:26] <snodo> theadmin: ok ill give it a go, thans
[17:26] <marksaitis> theadmin, you meant like - exec -c myuser /binary ?
[17:26] <marksaitis> theadmin, give me an example :)
[17:26] <theadmin> Right, sudo, su is interactive regardless of whether you're running it as root or not.
[17:26] <theadmin> makara: sudo -u username /binary, though what is your binary doing in /?
[17:26] <marksaitis> is there a graphical upstart ncurses gui like sysv-rc-conf
[17:27] <theadmin> marksaitis: Unneeded. To disable a service you can simply add "manual" anywhere in the .conf, then it will only start on your reqest.
[17:27] <marksaitis> also what is the alternative of "service myservice start" for upstart?
[17:27] <Barnabas> theadmin, its important to note that su - <user> runs the login scripts for that user, while sudo -u <user> does not
[17:28] <marksaitis> theadmin, I want my /binary to be ran under myuser user account, like sysv --chuid option?
[17:28] <theadmin> marksaitis: "service" uses Upstart. But you can also us "start myservice". It's shorter.
[17:28] <marksaitis> sounds nice :)))))
[17:29] <g0nz0w> bekks: I've tried rebooting a couple of times, but this doesn't seem to be working, I'm still getting the error when trying to manually mount the shared folder by name, and adding it to fstab according to the manual fails when rebooting. Gives me an option to pres 'S' to skip so that's what I do. Any further suggestions?
[17:29] <llutz> service (8)          - run a System V init script   even though it also handles upstart-scripts
[17:29] <marksaitis> so whats the exec parameter to run my binary as user X, is it in upstart man page then?
[17:29] <theadmin> marksaitis: Well, the idea is "exec sudo -u your_username /path/to/binary"
[17:29] <theadmin> Upstart doesn't itself provide a mechanism for that because there are other tools around for it.
[17:29] <histo> marksaitis: setuid
[17:30] <llutz> marksaitis: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#utilities
[17:30] <marksaitis> theadmin, histo - so which one of them is the recommended one? I want to run sogod as user openchange
[17:31] <theadmin> marksaitis: You need the full path to that "sogod", though, but I already gave you the command two times... Just replace stuff.
[17:31] <marksaitis> theadmin, okay thank you, will try
[17:31] <marksaitis> histo, whats that setuid
[17:32] <cagrijost> can anyone help me with a bootloader problem?
[17:32] <chiefw0tj> Greetings!
[17:32] <theadmin> Oh, Upstart has a setuid. I didn't know, my bad.
[17:32] <marksaitis> theadmin, should it not be su instead of sudo btw? my openchange user is not in sudoers list
[17:32] <histo> marksaitis: use su
[17:33] <theadmin> marksaitis: But root is :P
[17:33] <marksaitis> and so what is better, setuid or sudo?
[17:33] <marksaitis> ok, as soon as that sudo will not give any extra rights to my binary running under openchange user then
[17:34] <cITs> can anyone explain why my dmesg is spammed with this? [16231.730018] 2:3:1: usb_set_interface failed (-22)
[17:35] <theadmin> marksaitis: Well, all in all, the file should look like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5579869/
[17:35] <vicsar> .
[17:36] <marksaitis> theadmin, thanx I already made it, with some options taken from crons sample. works liek a charm
[17:36] <marksaitis> way better than sysv
[17:36] <theadmin> :)
[17:37] <marksaitis> theadmin, wicked stuff
[17:37] <marksaitis> magic
[17:37] <marksaitis> I am absolutelly in love with it from now on. All should be on upstart
[17:40] <jrtappers> How do I make a juju charm accessable on the real network if it is running in local mode?
[17:40] <Physicist> Maybe still clear... I am sure about all the hyptss..
[17:41] <Physicist> Unfortunelly, it is strange, no up! or charm!
[17:41] <Physicist> anyhway..
[17:41] <Physicist> *anyway***
[17:42] <Physicist> All about the horrific grub..
[17:42] <jrtappers> All quantum jokes are both funny and not funny, at the same time
[17:43] <Physicist> I have to uninstall that grub.. I want to use the Kubuntu grub.. Most beautiful.. Gray.. and clean too!!!
[17:44] <Physicist> heh..
[17:44] <Physicist> jrtappers: heheh
[17:44] <theadmin> Physicist: Um, there's no such thing as "Kubuntu GRUB".
[17:45] <theadmin> If you're talking about the bootsplash it's changeable, yes..
[17:45] <Physicist> updategrub from Kubuntu...
[17:45] <Physicist> Works!!
[17:45] <Physicist> Where is the expert of that place..
[17:46] <jrtappers> Physicist, look at grub.cfg
[17:46] <sqrt7744> Hi, I'm on quantal (server) and want to run transmission-daemon as a user. I read that with upstart 1.4+ you can just use setuid and setgid to change the user, which sounds great, but I have no idea what is meant by that, i.e. where I put those commands
[17:46] <Physicist> theadmin: Good..
[17:47] <Physicist> jrtappers: Where?
[17:47] <jrtappers> /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[17:47] <sqrt7744> tl;dr, how can i start a service as a different user using setuid/setgid?
[17:47] <jrtappers> Physicist, Make sure you back it up before changing it
[17:48] <Physicist> jrtappers: okdok..
[17:49] <Physicist> My computer's name is so mcuh incredible..
[17:49] <Physicist> *much
[17:49] <dcima> I have ubuntu 12.04 with gnome. Can I uninstall unity packages safely?
[17:50] <bd1zzle> hey all. i need to upgrade glib to >= 2.34 on ubuntu 11.10. is there any sources or documentation to make sure i can do this safely. it seems like i'm going to have to compile from scratch, unless there is a repo I can add to do an apt-get?
[17:51] <bd1zzle> or possibly another ubuntu server version that would better suite me?
[17:51] <jrtappers> Is there a way or is it nearly impossible
[17:51] <jrtappers> ?
[17:52] <BrainBug[BE]> sqrt7744, I'm no expert, but you can change the s bit on the rights so it can be run as an admin with this : chmod u+s /path/to/file (in this case root:root)?
[17:52] <artrei> i don't know why but after i change wallpaper from ubuntu to blue default background, i felt increase of performance, anyone could tell me why this happen?
[17:52] <theadmin> bd1zzle: That's not a thing that you should do, it will break apps.
[17:53] <BrainBug[BE]> artrei, everything flows better in the air..., no, maybe it's a smaller -lighter- format (bmp vs jpeg vs png)?
[17:54] <sqrt7744> BrainBug[BE], that's not really what I'm looking for, I'm trying to change the process to run under a user rather than it's own (transmission-daemon)
[17:54] <sqrt7744> I found this guy with a similar problem on askubuntu, but I don't understand the solution. http://askubuntu.com/questions/261252/how-do-i-change-the-user-transmission-runs-under/261269#261269
[17:55] <bd1zzle> theadmin: that is what i've been told. but i need to get https://github.com/niner/WWW-WebKit/tree/master/WWW-WebKit installed and going on my server. It requires gobject-introspection >= 1.33, which has a dependency on glib >= 2.34
[17:55] <bd1zzle> unless there is a different version of ubuntu i can upgrade to that will help fix this?
[17:56] <theadmin> sqrt7744: Open up /etc/init/transmission-daemon.conf, add "setuid your_username" to that file and save it.
[17:56] <jrtappers> How do I make a juju charm accessable on the real network if it is running in local mode?
[17:57] <Physicist> Iwant to install kubuntu in a mackbook air... Meantime, exist the quetion of apple archtecture... Is it plausible? Dual boot with OS Moutain Lion??
[17:57] <jrtappers> It makes its own virtual network, so how do I access it from the real network?
[17:57] <sqrt7744> theadmin, since that file doesn't exist, I created it and added that single line, but the daemon won't start at all when I do that
[17:57] <artrei> BrainBug[BE], maybe because it came with multiple size too
[17:57] <jrtappers> Physicist, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookAir
[17:58] <Physicist> I am using 3 O.S. in a HP AMD A8... A good machine..
[17:58] <theadmin> sqrt7744: Oh, it uses sysvinit, ugh. That's kinda gross. Look at the one in /etc/init.d/ then, modify it to use su or something
[17:59] <sqrt7744> theadmin, thanks, will try
[17:59] <bonhoeffer> anyone know how i can minimize all windows to see the desktop
[18:00] <bonhoeffer> i know i've done it before with a hotkey
[18:00] <theadmin> bonhoeffer: Hint: Hold the Windows key for a while and you'll see all teh shortcuts.
[18:01] <theadmin> bonhoeffer: What you want is done by Ctrl+Winkey+D.
[18:01] <Physicist> I will continue using Linux only in my HP... I'll not change the apple... It is better..
[18:01] <freediver> Is tis the right channel for trying to disable gnome ssh?
[18:02] <krofna> I followed instructions for installing nvidia binary drivers (from ubuntu repos) but when I rebooted I got no dash nor any windows have borders... Help?
[18:02] <jrtappers> freediver, what do you mean?
[18:02] <freediver> I can't seem to get ssh-agent working
[18:02] <Physicist> !ssh | freedriver
[18:02] <freediver> and I've been trying to disable this
[18:02] <freediver> 1s
[18:03] <jrtappers> why do you want to disable ls?
[18:03] <raven> i am trying to enable usb-autosuspend by setting /sys/bus/usb/devices/usbx/power/autosuspend to 1 but it does not work and after reboot its set back to 2 - any ideas?
[18:04] <hubahuba> freediver: you remove ssh access to your machine? "apt-get remove ssh"
[18:04] <theadmin> jrtappers: "1s" means "One second", as in, please wait, I'll get some info.
[18:04] <victor__> hi
[18:04] <jrtappers> oh, that maks sense
[18:04] <victor__> how can i uninstall jdk 7 and install jdk 6 (for cm7 source building)
[18:05] <victor__> ?
[18:05] <theadmin> hubahuba: That does nothing. ssh is a metapackage, removing it won't remove the actual software. You need to remove openssh-server.
[18:05] <theadmin> victor__: You don't have to uninstall one to install the other. Simply install openjdk-6-jdk
[18:05] <freediver> jrtappers "/usr/bin/ssh-agent /usr/bin/dbus-launch --exit-with-session gnome-session --session=ubuntu"
[18:05] <freediver> I can't seem to get that out of autostart
[18:05] <hubahuba> theadmin: ach so!
[18:06] <freediver> I'm wanting to use openssh
[18:06] <hubahuba> freediver: why do you want to disable your passphrase agent?
[18:06] <freediver> and gnome seems to interfere
[18:06] <freediver> yeah
[18:06]  * hubahuba suspects someone else has to help here
[18:06] <freediver> I want to use openssh's
[18:06] <victor__> i'm installing it now ... hope it will work :)
[18:07] <kandjra14> slt
[18:07] <freediver> I should be able to knock gnome's ssh agent out shouldn't I?
[18:07] <jrtappers> freediver, is it started in a script? you may be able to comment it out
[18:07] <freediver> no it's in desktop
[18:07] <Physicist> I saw a project as the Ironman Jarvis... Lord..Amazing.. It is not available yet.. I want it!
[18:08] <freediver> I disabled in startup applications
[18:08] <freediver> edited .desktop files
[18:08] <Nite_shades> Quick question on whether to convert ubuntu 12.04 as a ssh server
[18:08] <freediver> and still can't get rid of it
[18:08] <freediver> repeated reboots after the changes
[18:08] <hubahuba> freediver: /usr/bin/ssh-agent is provided by openssh-client
[18:08] <freediver> as well
[18:08] <hubahuba> freediver: what are you trying to do?
[18:08] <dcima> I use gnome 3. Can I remove all this packages from my ubuntu 12.04: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5579932/plain/
[18:09] <freediver> in the past
[18:09] <freediver> when I ran ssh-add
[18:09] <freediver> I would be prompted for a password
[18:09] <freediver> but in this case I am not
[18:09] <jrtappers> Is the password stored in gnome password manager?
[18:09] <freediver> I assumed it was and issue with how gnome calls ssh-agent
[18:10] <victor__> didn't worked ....  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5579946/ what to do ?
[18:10] <freediver> jrtappers I've never been prompte
[18:10] <freediver> prompted
[18:10] <freediver> so it wouldn't be in ther
[18:10] <hubahuba> freediver: does the ssh key have a passphrase?
[18:10] <freediver> yep
[18:10] <Physicist> Bye Bye .. Earth people!!! Out.
[18:10] <freediver> I'm prompted for it when I ssh to servers
[18:11] <freediver> and tiring of repeatedly doing it
[18:11] <hubahuba> ach so!
[18:11] <freediver> thought ssh-agent would be nice
[18:11] <hubahuba> so your ssh agent isn't doing it's job somehow. now I understand your motivation at least :-)
[18:11] <freediver> :)
[18:12] <jrtappers> freediver, which WM's do you have installed?
[18:12] <freediver> right, when I kill the gnome started ssh it goes to a defunct state
[18:12] <hubahuba> in a gnomish desktop it usually just works, no need for ssh-add
[18:12] <freediver> that would have been nice
[18:12] <hubahuba> the passphrase gets picked up by some gnome-keyring, which gets unlocked by your login
[18:13] <jrtappers> freediver, try to open passwords, see if your keyring works
[18:13] <freediver> jrtappers how do I open passwords?
[18:13] <numberto> is it possible to have apps not show in launcher if they are in different workspace
[18:13] <numberto> ?
[18:13] <jrtappers> freediver, Gnome 3?
[18:14] <freediver> ubuntu 12.10
[18:14] <jrtappers> search for "password" in your programs list
[18:14] <freediver> ah
[18:14] <freediver> got it
[18:15] <jrtappers> Thats your 'keyring'
[18:15] <freediver> ah
[18:15] <freediver> wow
[18:15] <freediver> had no idea
[18:15] <freediver> I see an ssh key
[18:15] <sqrt7744> I've found a message on launchpad which is very much what I'm looking for, but I don't understand the "deployment" description, could someone please tell me what is meant by "copy the file into the debian directory"? https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-sponsors/2012-August/025120.html
[18:15] <FloodBot1> freediver: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:15] <freediver> happy I have backups of the files
[18:16] <freediver> I must have typed too many lines text
[18:16] <jrtappers> Does anyone have a dual boot and want to test a GUI to reboot to a chosen OS?
[18:16] <freediver> jrtappers hubahuba thx
[18:16] <freediver> I'll take look
[18:16] <freediver> and brb
[18:17] <hubahuba> jrtappers: sure
[18:18] <jrtappers> hubahuba, Its still in development, and only works with grub, il send you the PPA address
[18:19] <hubahuba> grub2 I hope?
[18:19] <phunyguy> Hi, I am trying out the transmission-qt frontend on Ubuntu, and I am curious to know if it is possible to change the tray icon to look like the transmission-gtk tray icon?
[18:19] <jrtappers> Yh, thats what I meant
[18:19] <curfont> guys, trying the live cd on a laptop i want to rescue
[18:19] <curfont> but it is getting this really weird "white screen" when it get sinto splash
[18:19] <curfont> like its black then it "goes into white" like graining
[18:19] <curfont> not sure how to describe it
[18:20] <curfont> like snow
[18:20] <phunyguy> !enter | curfont
[18:20] <victor__> how can i disable jdk7 and use only jdk 6?
[18:20] <curfont> phunyguy: right, I usually do but I was kind of in a hurty
[18:21] <curfont> hurry*
[18:22] <curfont> I was trying to google for it, but "white grains from black" has no responses, is there a name for this?
[18:22] <MierdaMan> Hi all
[18:22] <freediver> jrtappers, password mgr doesn't seem to allow me to use a key I already have created
[18:23] <MierdaMan> Is there any cross compiler for ppc platforms? I need to compile Apache web server for a ppc device, and I want to use my Ubuntu machine as compilation platform, thanks
[18:24] <AcidRain__> ubuntu fail
[18:26] <DH9129> hi all looking for a little help anyone go the patience to deal with an ubuntu noob
[18:27] <beboj> someone using maybe this hd44780 LCD with lcd2usb
[18:27] <beboj> ?
[18:27] <raven> i am trying to enable usb-autosuspend by setting /sys/bus/usb/devices/usbx/power/autosuspend to 1 but it does not work and after reboot its set back to 2 - any ideas?
[18:28] <DH9129> wow community spirit is dead
[18:29] <llutz> !anyone | DH9129
[18:30] <DH9129> my questtion is why when ever i try to use any distro it always asks for username and password ive looked up all the supposed default and none work
[18:30] <steven__> hey
[18:30] <llutz> DH9129: because there is no default username/password
[18:31] <DH9129> so why are they asking for one
[18:32] <llutz> DH9129: you create a user at installation time, with password. thats the one you use later
[18:32] <DH9129> its a live usb no usercreation
[18:32] <llutz> DH9129: at what point does it ask for username/pass then?
[18:32] <saivan> hola
[18:33] <DH9129> what do you mean at what point, at the login screen
[18:34] <AcidRain__> is there a software that i can use to browse an sql database file? without adding it to mysql? cant find anything in software center. then again, idk what to search for
[18:34] <llutz> live-cd has a login-screen? sry i never used it but in that case its really stupid
[18:34] <DH9129> please keep in mind ive never used linux before
[18:34] <AcidRain__> i need to be able to open the file, and remove tables, and then save
[18:35] <AcidRain__> llutz, DH9129 this is funniest conversation ever
[18:35] <AcidRain__> cant get past login screen :P
[18:36] <DH9129> no problems its really frustration im a windows guy and apple cretified but just cant get linux to work
[18:36] <AcidRain__> DH9129, its simple, dont hit the logout button on a live cd
[18:36] <DH9129> i didnt i never logged in
[18:36] <AcidRain__> DH9129, i promise u will love linux if u can get rid of unity. just go ahead and install it
[18:37] <jrtappers> DH9129, I agree with that, Unity is like marmite
[18:37] <AcidRain__> DH9129, when u boot from live cd. u are taken straight on desktop. if it logged out or is asking for password, then u must have corrupt download
[18:37] <saivan> hola
[18:37] <jrtappers> Some love unity, others hate it
[18:37] <steven__> i got a wifi issue i got really had signal and speed on my rt2800 driver
[18:37] <AcidRain__> jrtappers, ya theres no inbetween
[18:37] <cagrijost> can someone help me install grub? it doesnt show up after an ubuntu install
[18:37] <DH9129> tryed the 13.04 downloads 4 differend builds
[18:38] <llutz> !ringtail | DH9129
[18:38] <raven> i am trying to enable usb-autosuspend by setting /sys/bus/usb/devices/usbx/power/autosuspend to 1 but it does not work and after reboot its set back to 2 - any ideas?
[18:38] <llutz> DH9129: starting with a alpha/beta version is not very clever, use something stable
[18:38] <DH9129> didnt know it was alpha/beta just dld lates version
[18:39] <AcidRain__> im about to isntall 12.04 from scratch, since upgrade from 10.04 LTS to 12.04 LTS failed :/
[18:39] <AcidRain__> setting ubuntu at a 100% fail rate with upgrading
[18:39] <jrtappers> DH9129, you can go with an LTS or a normal
[18:39] <DH9129> i have no idea what lts and normal means
[18:39] <AcidRain__> do the lts. that way you are only forcefully troubled to update every 3yrs :P
[18:40] <jrtappers> DH9129, 12.10 is stable, but the LTS's are meant to be rock solid
[18:40] <jrtappers> LTS = long term support, its ones that are supported for 3 years and ultra-stable
[18:41] <saivan_> hola
[18:41] <thtanner> 5 years
[18:41] <llutz> "Starting with Ubuntu 12.04 LTS, both versions will receive 5 years support"
[18:41] <saivan_> necesito ayuda
[18:41] <DH9129> to be honest just looking for a small fast os that supports smb sharing for my headless server and was told ubuntu was the way to go
[18:41] <saivan_> hi
[18:41] <jrtappers> DH9129, for servers go with the LTS, but the Desktop version!
[18:41] <ninja-hattori> backbox 3.01 is based on ubuntu 12.04. tried to install but failed miserably. maybe hardware support sucked? any idea?
[18:42] <DH9129> so 12.04 then is the recomendation
[18:42] <jrtappers> DH9129, il find you the link, just a moment
[18:42] <jrtappers> 12.04 Desktop
[18:42] <jrtappers> The server versions have no GUI, so they are not good for first experiences
[18:42] <raven> i am trying to enable usb-autosuspend by setting /sys/bus/usb/devices/usbx/power/autosuspend to 1 but it does not work and after reboot its set back to 2 - any ideas?
[18:42] <jrtappers> Il give you the link
[18:43] <jrtappers> DH9129, 32 bit or 64?
[18:43] <DH9129> cheers for the info its an old beast of a server from show storage so it 32bit all the way if i get a good experiance i might try 64bit on my gaming rig
[18:45] <DH9129> always wanted to look at linux but it never seemed to work for me
[18:46] <beboj> DH9129 I recon to just take a look on oficall ubuntu forum http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=326&s=b3a8cfadd71d8d4f7fed22ae28cf83eb
[18:46] <jrtappers> DH9129, its http://www.ubuntu.com/start-download?distro=desktop&bits=32&release=lts
[18:47] <jrtappers> DH9129, and if you hate unity try another WM, just ask here and someone will help
[18:47] <DH9129> thanks guys will let you know how it goes
[18:47] <rashxt> hi, I just upgraded from 12.04 to 12.10 and my video isn't working properly, any advice? past I used nvidia drivers
[18:47] <jrtappers> rashxt, How badly not working?
[18:48] <jrtappers> Unity 2D or Command line?
[18:48] <DH9129> ok noob question but whats a WM, and is unity a shell?
[18:48] <rashxt> for example when I drag a window it is very slow
[18:49] <archstanton168> anyone using mint?
[18:49] <jrtappers> DH9129, Its a Window Manager, and there are lots of them, Unity, Gnome, KDE, Cinamon
[18:49] <rashxt> unity
[18:49] <bazhang> archstanton168, in the mint support channel not here
[18:49] <Sazpaimon> how can I mount an NTFS volume encrypted with drivecrypt plus pack?
[18:49] <bazhang> !mintsupport | archstanton168
[18:49] <archstanton168> sorry ok
[18:49] <jrtappers> rashxt, try in software sources, its the new additional drivers
[18:50] <bazhang> jrtappers, unity is a shell
[18:50] <DH9129> ok cheers reinstalling 12.04 now
[18:50] <ninja-hattori> nvidia drivers in jockey
[18:51] <rashxt> jrtappers: i've tried with all listed on software source and none of them is working
[18:51] <DH9129> was that dl an install or a live btw?
[18:53] <ylli> l
[18:53] <jrtappers> try the website, sometimes the downloads are better than the software center ones
[18:53] <rashxt> nvidia website?
[18:55] <raven> i am trying to enable usb-autosuspend by setting /sys/bus/usb/devices/usbx/power/autosuspend to 1 but it does not work and after reboot its set back to 2 - any ideas?
[18:55] <Sazpaimon> how can I mount an NTFS volume encrypted with drivecrypt plus pack?
[18:56] <ylli> hi people help me in caht pzz
[18:56] <npf> how can i take a ls of a folder and then assign it to  a variable
[18:56] <ylli> hahaa
[18:57] <raven> i am trying to enable usb-autosuspend by setting /sys/bus/usb/devices/usbx/power/autosuspend to 1 but it does not work and after reboot its set back to 2 - any ideas?
[18:57] <bazhang> raven please be patient
[18:57] <bazhang> Sazpaimon, what is drivecrypt plus pacl
[18:58] <rashxt> jrtappers: trying... thank you
[18:58] <Sazpaimon> bazhang, http://www.securstar.com/products_drivecryptpp.php
[18:59] <bazhang> Sazpaimon, what does blkid show for that
[18:59] <bazhang> !blkid | Sazpaimon
[18:59] <Sazpaimon> bazhang, nothing, the volumes don't show any UUID
[19:00] <Sazpaimon> also, don't tell me to switch to trucryp, because I have a UEFI-based system and truecrypt doesn't support GPT volumes in a UEFI system
[19:00] <bazhang> Sazpaimon, so thats a windows only product? something similar to Truecrypt or what
[19:00] <Antar> Hi
[19:00] <npf> how can i take a ls of a folder and then assign it to a variable
[19:01] <Sazpaimon> bazhang, I believe drivecrypt was based off of truecrypt at one point
[19:01] <Sazpaimon> but I don't know if this is the case anymore
[19:01] <Antar> is LiLi USB Creator support Ubuntu 12.04.2 Desktop ?
[19:01] <bazhang> Antar, ask the Lili creators
[19:01] <woo> :)
[19:01] <Sazpaimon> for me to access my volumes a boot time, it requires 2 passwords, which is incompatible with truecrypt
[19:02] <Antar> bazhang where can i find him
[19:02] <bazhang> Antar, no idea. try their forums
[19:02] <hubahuba> raven: how do you set the sys property? can't ou just do the same in rc.local on boot?
[19:02] <Antar> bazhang Thank you very much do you know another software support it
[19:03] <bazhang> Antar, unetbootin, usb creator are both in ubuntu repos
[19:03] <Antar> i need to create a ubuntu live usb
[19:03] <bazhang> Antar, both do that
[19:03] <hubahuba> unetbootin rocks
[19:04] <Antar> bazhang i ve used
[19:04] <Antar> but i have an error where i am try to install it
[19:04] <bazhang> Antar, so check the iso (md5) and try again
[19:04] <Antar> while install ubuntu not unetboot in
[19:04] <Sazpaimon> I also tried installing DCCP in wine, but as expected it didn't work
[19:05] <Sazpaimon> I got an error about it not being able to load the device drivers
[19:05] <Antar> ok i will check and back :)
[19:06] <raven> hubahuba i did it with a script with tea and manually but the main problem is obviously if the machine is able to do that function - how to test that?
[19:06] <Antar> bazhang it is good
[19:06] <Antar> the error message is : ubi partman failed with exit code 10
[19:10] <kiborg> Hi
[19:10] <kiborg> I have a driver problems.
[19:10] <hubahuba> kiborg: lscpi info in the device?
[19:12] <kiborg> hubahuba: can you explain that? I am not that experienced.
[19:12] <bazhang> kiborg, drivers for what
[19:13] <hubahuba> kiborg: get a terminal, type lspci, copy+paste the line with your hardware having driverproblems on fx pastie.org
[19:13] <bazhang> hubahuba, you might mention lsusb if its a usb device
[19:14] <hubahuba> bazhang: gah. I don't want to debug usb devices :-D
[19:16] <nintet> hey guys, what is the easiest http or ftp server to set up so that i can share files with my daughter?
[19:17] <nintet> she wants to watch certain cartoons on here... i dont want to have to manually copy them
[19:17] <nintet> i tried monkey http, but it appears to be a broken package
[19:17] <hubahuba> nintet: lighttp is perfect for streaming
[19:17] <OerHeks> nintet i would choose ubuntu one, 5g cloud storage for free.
[19:17] <nintet> cartoons are a bit more than  5 gigs
[19:18] <hubahuba> lighttpd it's called. or nginx, whicih has a little more obscure config.
[19:18] <ylli> hi man
[19:18] <ylli> what's up
[19:18] <nintet> thanks!
[19:18] <OerHeks> oke, what OS is your daughter using? choose samba share if she uses windows.
[19:18] <hubahuba> nintet: ps3mediaserver will show up as a dlna server, if she has a compatible device?
[19:18] <ylli> what
[19:19] <nintet> its her tablet
[19:19] <nintet> where is the documentation?
[19:19] <hubahuba> http://www.ps3mediaserver.org/ can stream to my ps3, my tv and my gf's laptop
[19:20] <ylli> WC
[19:20] <ylli> OK MAN
[19:20] <nintet> 2013-03-02 14:20:17: (configfile.c.958) opening configfile  lighttpd.conf failed: No such file or directory
[19:20] <ylli> ffa
[19:21] <bazhang> ylli, ubuntu support question?
[19:22] <Hackulos> ola! muchachos!
[19:23] <ylli> hi women hackulos
[19:23] <pc__> its wery dificult to use linux :)
[19:23] <Hackulos> ylli?
[19:23] <Hackulos> :D
[19:23] <ylli> what you're say bazhang
[19:24] <pc__> no comprende ?
[19:24] <bazhang> ylli, this is not the chat channel. it's ubuntu support ONLY
[19:24] <ylli> how you doing?
[19:24] <bazhang> !ot | ylli
[19:25] <pc__> how to look over chanels in freenode ?
[19:25] <ylli> I know for this bazhang
[19:25] <bazhang> !alis | pc__
[19:25] <bazhang> ylli, so stop chatting here
[19:26] <ylli> why
[19:26] <bazhang> ylli, its ubuntu support only, thats why
[19:27] <ylli> I will respect the rules provided in this chat
[19:27] <ylli> sorry bazhang
[19:28] <videogamercookie> hello?
[19:28] <nyuszika7h> hi, I have a problem. with nVIDIA binary driver I have no framebuffer. how can I enable framebuffer and set its resolution to 1024x768?
[19:29] <raven> hubahuba i did it with a script with tea and manually but the main problem is obviously if the machine is able to do that function - how to test that?
[19:29] <raven> i am trying to enable usb-autosuspend by setting /sys/bus/usb/devices/usbx/power/autosuspend to 1 but it does not work and after reboot its set back to 2 - any ideas?
[19:29] <videogamercookie> i think i can help nysuzika7h
[19:29] <videogamercookie> possibly
[19:29] <anon11> yo
[19:29] <videogamercookie> everybodies joining!
[19:30] <videogamercookie> lol
[19:30] <anon11> anyone mind helping download?
[19:30] <videogamercookie> say i if you see this: -----------
[19:30] <anon11> i
[19:31] <bazhang> videogamercookie, stop that
[19:31] <videogamercookie> fine
[19:31] <anon11> so im using virtualbox but its not loading
[19:31] <gazzwi86> thSo I'm trying to setup a DNS server and getting confused
[19:31] <videogamercookie> virtualbox on what platform?
[19:31] <anon11> i heard i could get some advice here?
[19:31] <anon11> windows 7
[19:31] <videogamercookie> oh sweet im using linux ubuntu
[19:32] <pc__> :P :D
[19:32] <anon11> i downloaded the iso file on the ubuntu site
[19:32] <ylli> Are there female here? :P
[19:32] <videogamercookie> oh :P
[19:32] <anon11> but when i enter it it gives me an error
[19:32] <gazzwi86> I'm using Bind9, trying to set up a primary server.  I have two additional IP addresses and following these instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BIND9ServerHowto
[19:32] <anon11> im trying to use ubuntu
[19:32] <hubahuba> gazzwi86: we need more information really
[19:32] <hubahuba> ah
[19:32] <videogamercookie> i can help what processer are you runnung anon11?
[19:33] <anon11> what processor do you mean?
[19:33] <fstm__> anon11, what error does it give you?
[19:33] <anon11> can you give me an example?
[19:33] <pc__> write iso file with isoburner  program in cd and thats it :)
[19:33] <ylli> Are there female here?
[19:33] <anon11> it says i dont have pae ad the kernel is not apropriate
[19:33] <bazhang> ylli, stop it
[19:33] <videogamercookie> im sorry i meant how MANY processors are you running?
[19:33] <bazhang> ylli, last warning
[19:33] <anon11> i think just the one, just standard computer
[19:34] <jackarg> HELP! I just upgraded to ubuntu 12.10 and now i have a black screen after boot. I cannot do anything whatsoever please help!
[19:34] <videogamercookie> oh when i tried on just one it fails i think you need two processors
[19:34] <gazzwi86> hubahuba: I'm trying to setup Reverse Zone file having done the first part but not sure how to get my local IP.  I'm using backspace so would it just be the first three of the local IP address?
[19:34] <bastidrazor> bazhang: you abandoned us in -ot?
[19:34] <hubahuba> anon11: pae is a virtualization extension in the processor, without it it won't work.
[19:34] <ylli> OK just fooling bazhang
[19:34] <videogamercookie> possibly
[19:34] <anon11> how do i get 2 processors or pae?
[19:34] <videogamercookie> maybe im wrong
[19:34] <hubahuba> buy a new cpu
[19:34] <bazhang> ylli, this is not the channel for fooling.  #ubuntu-offtopic for chit chat
[19:34] <goodtime> ylli:  iwouldnt even kid
[19:35] <videogamercookie> buy a new core how old is your computer?
[19:35] <anon11> how do i get pae?
[19:35] <ylli> than ot make relax
[19:35] <anon11> my computers like a year old
[19:35] <anon11> if i install pae will it solve it?
[19:35] <pc__> write specs of your computer
[19:35] <hubahuba> anon11: cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep pae
[19:35] <pc__> or name
[19:35] <fstm__> anon11, maybe you just misconfigured the virtual machine, on VBox
[19:35] <videogamercookie> oh, then thats not a problem do you have a virus protector maybe its stopping you from using it
[19:36] <hubahuba> ah, on windows. i have no clue :-/
[19:36] <anon11> do i google that huba? i dont have ubuntu yet so i cant use commands
[19:36] <anon11> and fstm__ i followed a tutorial
[19:36] <anon11> so i figure its right
[19:36] <videogamercookie> or else you just configured it wrong anon11.
[19:36] <hubahuba> anon11: no. I'm sorry I'm totally clueless about windows, the error-message might or might not be relevant
[19:37] <anon11> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/virtualbox i followed this
[19:37] <anon11> and when it should load it says i dont have pae and the kernel is not correct
[19:37] <videogamercookie> who knows how many cores the guy you watched in the tutorial had anon
[19:37] <videogamercookie> but yes you do need pae
[19:37] <anon11> is there a way to download it? do i google it?
[19:37] <hubahuba> wait, pae is nothing about virtualization?
[19:37] <hubahuba> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_Address_Extension
[19:37] <pc__> if you using virtuaalbox in windows and want to play ubuntu in it you must use an other tutorial :)
[19:38] <fstm__> hubahuba, precisely, pae isn't necessary for vbox
[19:38] <videogamercookie> try googling it im geussing you buy it on oracles VBox website
[19:38] <hubahuba> try a 32bit ubuntu? or match your ubuntu arch to your cpu?
[19:38] <videogamercookie> i mean download not bu
[19:38] <bazhang> videogamercookie, pae ha no connection to vbox
[19:38] <videogamercookie> oh then i am a idiot
[19:39] <jackarg> PLEASE help I have a blackscreen after booting in ubuntu 12.10
[19:39] <fstm__> anon11, you go to your virtual machine configuration
[19:39] <videogamercookie> bazhang i am new to IRC. why is your username red?
[19:39] <fstm__> anon11, you get to System, Processor
[19:39] <fstm__> And you check/uncheck the "Enable PAE"
[19:40] <fstm__> Then run your machine again
[19:40] <anon11> where is virtual machine configs?
[19:40] <anon11> is it in vbox?
[19:40] <videogamercookie> do what fstm_ said
[19:40] <videogamercookie> yes it is
[19:40] <fstm__> When you open vbox, you'll have a list of your configured machines
[19:40] <fstm__> On the toolbar, next to the Start button, there's a Settings button
[19:40] <videogamercookie> make sure vbox only has one core trying to run it
[19:41] <videogamercookie> what are you trying to run anyway, anon11?
[19:41] <anon11> ubuntu
[19:41] <anon11> in windows
[19:41] <videogamercookie> what version, 12.10 or 12.04
[19:41] <anon11> either one, i have both isos
[19:42] <fstm__> anon11, you tried it? Worked?
[19:42] <anon11> its loading
[19:42] <ylli> let better nests in this). I do not like talks also so much
[19:42] <videogamercookie> i would try to run 12.04, its the better way for you computer to not heat up as much
[19:42] <pc__> he do not listen probably he download and trying to instal vbox for linux on windows platform :)
[19:42] <selena2013> hello if ubuntu 12.10 hangs and freeze whats up ?
[19:42] <videogamercookie> ok pc__ :)
[19:43] <zorro-in> guys i'm on zorin os and i know this is not the channel to be but since it asks for a specific ubuntu cd which i can't seem to find, i was wondering if you could help me. i'm looking for this: CD/DVD 'Ubuntu 13.04 _Raring Ringtail_ - Alpha i386 (20130211)
[19:43] <videogamercookie> im leaving i was just on irc for a bit im watching a youtube video by pahimar.
[19:44] <anon11> i downloaded a patchpaezip.exe
[19:44] <fstm__> anon11, you don't need that, seriously
[19:44] <anon11> the rest of its still loading
[19:45] <fstm__> anon11, ubuntu runs just fine on Vbox for so many people (me included), switching PAE should do the trick
[19:45] <fstm__> anon11, was it on or off, anyway?
[19:45] <anon11> i dunno im trying to find it still
[19:45] <jrib> zorro-in: 13.04 is still in development.  If you're ok with that, they can help you in #ubuntu+1
[19:45] <MoPac> I'm facing a huge and unexpected performance problem when transferring files to an encfs folder on smb share.  Plaintext files go at about 8MB/sec ; transfer to the encfs folder is ~500KB/sec.
[19:45] <Antar> Hi
[19:46] <anon11> hi
[19:46] <fstm__> anon11, Wow, how long does Vbox take to open?
[19:46] <anon11> is it under steeings?
[19:46] <zorro-in> jrib, thanks a lot. i'll try there.
[19:46] <Antar> where can i find ubuntu 12.04.1
[19:46] <Antar> please ?
[19:46] <anon11> i have other things open which is why
[19:46] <fstm__> anon11, yes! I told you it's under settings! System -> Processor
[19:47] <Antar> where can i find ubuntu 12.04.1 ?
[19:48] <anon11> ah excellent
[19:48] <anon11> now its loading
[19:49] <mesquka> Hi
[19:49] <anon11> hi
[19:49] <Antar> heeey
[19:49] <UbuPhillup> hi
[19:49] <Antar> how can i download ubuntu 12.04.1 please
[19:50] <fstm__> !repeat | Antar
[19:50] <OerHeks> !download
[19:51] <OerHeks> 12.10 requires a DVD+r
[19:51] <Antar> no no
[19:51] <Antar> i need ubuntu 12.04.1
[19:52] <pc__> just google for ubuntu 12.04.1 download  and you are done :)
[19:52] <OerHeks> Antar, 12.04.2 is current > http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04.2/
[19:52] <kgalahassa> hello
[19:52] <fstm__> Antar, after two minutes on google: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/12.04.1/
[19:52] <Antar> OerHeks i said i want 12.04.1 not 12.04.2
[19:53] <kgalahassa> I have configured my backup on my ubuntu 12.10, but when it 's high time to up, it fails : not a directory. Is someone there  for help?
[19:53] <sideeffect> is there a possibility to draw a structure from name in chemdraw? i think i did it once, but i was some time ago
[19:53] <Antar> Very nice fstm_
[19:53] <Antar> but what is the diffrente between alternate and desktop
[19:54] <kgalahassa>  I can precise that my backup point is on my /media/kgalahassa/Data (/dev/sda3)
[19:54] <fstm> Antar, the alternate has a different installer, text-based only. The desktop one has a full graphical installer with clear instructions and stuffs
[19:54] <kgalahassa> I have configured my backup on my ubuntu 12.10, but when it 's high time to up, it fails : not a directory. Is someone there  for help? I can precise that my backup point is on my /media/kgalahassa/Data (/dev/sda3)
[19:54] <fstm> Antar, the system, otherwise, is the same
[19:55] <Antar> fstm you are the best thank you very much my brother
[19:55] <pc__> chatroom
[19:55] <fstm> Antar, anytime
[19:56] <Antar> fstm
[19:56] <Antar> 32 and 64
[19:56] <Antar> what is it and what is the diff
[19:57] <kgalahassa> I have configured my backup on my ubuntu 12.10, but when it 's high time to up, it fails : not a directory. Is someone there  for help? I can precise that my backup point is on my /media/kgalahassa/Data (/dev/sda3),  my backup software is : Déjà Dup
[19:57] <fstm> Antar, well the 32bit version is for 32 bits processors. Same for 64bits
[19:57] <fstm> Antar, it's up to you to figure out which one is yours
[19:57] <Antar> how can i know
[19:57] <Antar> my processor
[19:58] <kgalahassa> I have configured my backup on my ubuntu 12.10, but when it 's high time to up, it fails : not a directory. Is someone there  for help? I can precise that my backup point is on my /media/kgalahassa/Data (/dev/sda3),  my backup software is : Déjà Dup
[19:58] <selena2013> Question- what might be the cause of hang/freeze ubuntu 12.10 64bits amd
[19:58] <sideeffect> oh sorry i was in the wrong channel
[19:58] <fstm> Antar, if you're on Windows, you could use cpuZ for this
[19:59] <Antar> Good
[19:59] <Antar> i will
[19:59] <UbuPhillup> sideeffect: whitch was the right chennel then ?
[20:00] <Antar> http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/12.04.1/
[20:00] <sideeffect> #chemistry
[20:00] <Antar> fstm
[20:00] <sideeffect> ##
[20:00] <Antar> all in this website is 64
[20:00] <Antar> bit
[20:00] <kgalahassa> I have configured my backup on my ubuntu 12.10, but when it 's high time to up, it fails : not a directory. Is someone there  for help? I can precise that my backup point is on my /media/kgalahassa/Data (/dev/sda3),  my backup software is : Déjà Dup
[20:00] <fstm> Antar, i386 is Intel 32 bits
[20:01] <Antar> ah ok
[20:01] <basiclaser> hey chaps, when i type the ´ key, it is really slow to respond. Why is that? the same goes for the ; key. i have to hold it down for 1 second :/
[20:01] <kgalahassa> I have configured my backup on my ubuntu 12.10, but when it 's high time to up, it fails : not a directory. Is someone there  for help? I can precise that my backup point is on my /media/kgalahassa/Data (/dev/sda3),  my backup software is : Déjà Dup
[20:01] <matt_symes> selena2013: Is X freezing or is it the kernel ?
[20:02] <basiclaser> hey chaps, when i type the ´ key, it is really slow to respond. Why is that? the same goes for the ; key. i have to hold it down for 1 second :/
[20:02] <selena2013> i have no clue , but it hangs and i have to reset the whole system
[20:02] <matt_symes> selena2013: First find out if X or the kernel. Have you tried the magic key combination when it freezes ?
[20:02] <selena2013> i uncheck in power options the  suspend optons
[20:03] <selena2013> no which is the magic key please
[20:03] <selena2013> ???
[20:03] <zorro-in> selena2013, what driver you're using? fglrx?
[20:03] <selena2013> let me chek
[20:03] <matt_symes> selena2013: When it freeze press and hold alt + sysreq and hit each of these keys one after another r e i s u b
[20:04] <matt_symes> selena2013: If the kernel has not frozen that should reboot the machine
[20:04] <selena2013> alt + s y s r e q
[20:04] <UbuPhillup> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key
[20:04] <matt_symes> selena2013: Practice it when the system has not frozen
[20:04] <matt_symes> selena2013: That is what i would do first
[20:04] <selena2013> it says i use xorg
[20:04] <selena2013> xorg x server
[20:04] <matt_symes> selena2013: I know you do :D
[20:05] <selena2013> alt +sysreq
[20:05] <mrstein> Is there a workaround to Ubuntu Live CD failing to start when a Windows 8 installation is present in the system? It drops to mini shell after complaining that the NTFS partition is hibernated. I don't want to access that partition, just start Ubuntu.
[20:05] <matt_symes> selena2013: If you can discover whether it's X or the kernel crashing, you cu the the number of places to look down by half
[20:05] <kgalahassa> I have configured my backup on my ubuntu 12.10, but when it 's high time to up, it fails : not a directory. Is someone there  for help? I can precise that my backup point is on my /media/kgalahassa/Data (/dev/sda3),  my backup software is : Déjà Dup
[20:05] <mrstein> Ubuntu 11.10 works, while 12.04 and 12.10 both fail to start.
[20:05] <selena2013> hold on you too fast
[20:06] <selena2013> which is the magic key againg
[20:06] <selena2013> i have to write it down
[20:06] <fstm> mrstein, that's more for your Windows installation safety. Mounting a hybernated NTFS partition can have unpredictable results
[20:06] <mrstein> alt+SysRq  (SysRq is the Print Screen key)
[20:06] <mrstein> fstm: now read what I wrotE: I don't want to mount it
[20:06] <matt_symes> selena2013: Press and hold alt + sysreq then hit these key on after another r e i s u b
[20:07] <matt_symes> selena2013: That is busier backwards
[20:07] <zorro-in> selena2013 what kind of graphics card you're using? ati or nvidia?
[20:07] <memand> Anyone that is good at compiling that would be willing to aid and assist a bit? I have a piece of software (http://sourceforge.net/projects/opensmile/files/ (The *source.1.0.1.tar.gz) and I have not been able to follow the instructions given since they seem to be written for an earlier version
[20:07] <selena2013> i use radeon
[20:07] <machicola> when doing sudo apt-get install libsdl1.2-dev, what would happen if I already had a more recent version of this package? would the apt-get install be skipped or overwritten, etc. ?
[20:07] <fstm> mrstein, I think ubuntu can't do live anymore without mounting a partition (at least to create a temporary swap file). You should check out more live-oriented distros, knoppix?
[20:08] <mrstein> oh. But I have gobs of RAM.
[20:08] <selena2013> hd graphics x 2
[20:08] <hubahuba> mrstein: boot the windows, shut it down properly?
[20:08] <ifireball> hi there  is it possible to run the ubuntu-touch UI shown in recent presentations on a laptop running regular Ubuntu?
[20:08] <mrstein> yeah, use Windows to work around Ubuntu issues. ;)
[20:09] <bazhang> ifireball, try in #ubuntu-touch
[20:09] <matt_symes> selena2013: Can you get to a console when it crashes ?
[20:09] <ifireball> bazhang, I did. no answer there
[20:09] <selena2013> you mean control alt f7 ???
[20:09] <kgalahassa> I have configured my backup on my ubuntu 12.10, but when it 's high time to up, it fails : not a directory. Is someone there  for help? I can precise that my backup point is on my /media/kgalahassa/Data (/dev/sda3),  my backup software is : Déjà Dup
[20:10] <selena2013> no everything hangs no access
[20:10] <matt_symes> selena2013: ctrl + alt f1
[20:10] <dsana123> Hi, I'm attempting to install nvidia-current to a fresh install of of 12.04.2 but get the error: "The following packages have unmet dependencies. Depends: xorg-video-abi-11 Depends: xserver-xorg-core (>= 2:1.10.99.901)." Google didn't give me any answers other than saying that there is an nVidia/xorg incompatibility. Any help would be appreciated.
[20:10] <selena2013> i havent try that key combination
[20:10] <selena2013> next time it happens i will
[20:10] <matt_symes> selena2013: Then try the magic key combination. If it reboots it's X that has crashed
[20:11] <selena2013> i hope X dont chrash again
[20:11] <anon11> thanks ftsm
[20:11] <selena2013> thanks for support matt
[20:11] <zorro-in> selena2013: so you have ati cards. have you enabled proprietary drivers?
[20:11] <matt_symes> selena2013: If it's X that has crashed look at the log file /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see if there are any clues
[20:12] <matt_symes> selena2013: Also look at the log file /var/log/syslog to see if there are any clues
[20:12] <selena2013> i will thanks
[20:12] <machicola> when doing sudo apt-get install libsdl1.2-dev, what would happen if I already had a more recent version of this package? would the apt-get install be skipped or overwritten, etc. ?
[20:13] <matt_symes> selena2013: If it is X crashing try a different graphics driver. radeon instead of fglrx or visa-versa
[20:13] <matt_symes> selena2013: Crashes can be a pain to track down to that is a good place to start
[20:13] <mesquka> there are other graphics servers???
[20:13] <zorro-in> machicola: dpkg should inform you that a later version is already installed.
[20:13] <selena2013> mmm i hope it dont hang again
[20:14] <machicola> zorro-in, thanks
[20:14] <matt_symes> selena2013: so do i
[20:15] <zorro-in> machicola: just to stay on the safe side, open synaptic and check installed version and later. and you're welcome.
[20:15] <lizard-king> #enigma2
[20:16] <ylli> jk
[20:25] <raven> i am trying to enable usb-autosuspend by setting /sys/bus/usb/devices/usbx/power/autosuspend to 1 but it does not work and after reboot its set back to 2 - any ideas?
[20:27] <k00pie> hi
[20:27] <k00pie> how can I know the GPU usage?
[20:27] <multipack> dentify MOUSE1
[20:34] <MoPac> How can I check the file system of a mounted network drive? It's mounted in my home folder using samba/fuse
[20:35] <multipack> is it safe to disable grub-common from running at startup?
[20:35] <theadmin> MoPac: You can't check the filesystem over the network... Well, not with samba anyway, maybe with SSH or somesuch.
[20:38] <jrtappers> How can I set grub default to saved from terminal without editing /etc/default/grub
[20:38] <acidrain> i need a sql file browser
[20:38] <acidrain> i need to get some sql databases from a backedup file
[20:38] <acidrain> phpmyadmin wont import them. and sqlite browser wont loaed the file
[20:38] <Penorsaurus> I just got a new nvidia gtx 650 for my uuntu home server. I plan to run dolphin emulator off it. However, after installing the drivers I just see a black screen after I get past GRUB. I have tried installing it both through Additional drivers and using sudo apt-get install nvidia-current. Both produce the same result. The only way to get it to not be a black screen is to remove all drivers
[20:38] <Penorsaurus> using apt-get remove nvidia-current. Any suggestions?
[20:39] <Penorsaurus> if i do apt-get remove nvidia-* and reboot, it will display (assuming it uses default drivers)
[20:39] <acidrain> anyone?
[20:40] <michael_p> olson what irc chat program do you use for linux mint
[20:42] <acidrain> emma doesnt work either
[20:42] <acidrain> :/
[20:43] <MoPac> theadmin: thanks
[20:43] <sebsebseb> oh my old life, used to come in here loads a lot to help
[20:44] <jackarg> hello please is there anyone that can help me Ive been trying to solve the black screen problem in ubuntu 12.10 for the past 2 hours
[20:44] <sebsebseb> jackarg: what black screen problem?
[20:45] <theadmin> acidrain: If it's an ordinary MySQL dump, you just need to use mysqlimport to get stuff from it.
[20:45] <acidrain> i need a local sql management tool to open a file. and edit its databases and tables. so i can export it into sql server. and suggestions? emma doesnt work. sqlite doesnt work. phpmyadmin doesnt work
[20:45] <acidrain> theadmin, where is that at?
[20:45] <theadmin> acidrain: It's part of mysql.
[20:45] <sebsebseb> hi theadmin
[20:45] <theadmin> sebsebseb: Hi.
[20:45] <jackarg> sebsebseb: i upgraded to ubuntu 12.10 64 bit and after i boot there is only a black screen it cannot display any graphical interface
[20:45] <escott> !nomodeset | jackarg
[20:46] <sebsebseb> jackarg: oh I guess something went wrong with xorg or your graphics card driver or something like that
[20:46] <s_faraday> hi
[20:46] <sebsebseb> jackarg: upgrades don't always work how they are meant to
[20:46] <sebsebseb> s_faraday: hi
[20:46] <jackarg> sebsebseb: i can access the terminal (ctrl alt f1) but im not sure what to do from there. can you guide me?
[20:47] <acidrain> theadmin, could u give me an example on how to import a database with it?
[20:47] <sebsebseb> jackarg: no, but I assume for some reason xorg can't start a GUI
[20:47] <sebsebseb> jackarg: hence why you only get that terminal and nothing else
[20:47] <sebsebseb> !xorg
[20:47] <jackarg> so what should I do?
[20:47] <sebsebseb> jackarg: maybe you should try and restart xorg for example
[20:48] <theadmin> acidrain: mysqlimport databasename filename
[20:48] <Ziber> I have a rule in my iptables FORWARD as follows: "REJECT     all  --  anywhere             anywhere             reject-with icmp-port-unreachable". How can I delete it?
[20:48] <jackarg> how?
[20:48] <sebsebseb> jackarg: or  I think if you type in startx  that might do something,  may have to run that as sudo though
[20:48] <acidrain> theadmin, but i have many databases in 1 file. or do i just select 1 database and it imports it?
[20:49] <theadmin> sebsebseb: No, you don't "startx" as root, ever. Display managers run as root, but not usual desktops
[20:49] <sebsebseb> theadmin: oh ok
[20:49] <sebsebseb> jackarg: where's your data? may just be easier to do a fresh install of 12.10 in your case :d
[20:49] <theadmin> acidrain: Yeah, that's how it works. You can use a bash for loop to import multiple databases: for i in db1 db2 db3 ; do mysqlimport $i filename ; done
[20:50] <acidrain> theadmin how do i insert a database using a passowrd?
[20:50] <acidrain> my comp requires it
[20:50] <jackarg> my data is on the hard drive. i may go back to 12.04 in case but wont i lose everything?
[20:50] <sebsebseb> jackarg: where in your /home ? I assume
[20:50] <sebsebseb> jackarg: ,but you don't have a seperate /home ?
[20:50] <sebsebseb> !home
[20:50] <theadmin> acidrain: Use the --password option of mysqlimport. Read the manualpage, really: man mysqlimport
[20:50] <sebsebseb> jackarg: if you have a seperate home folder for any Linux distro, makes it so much easier re installing one or switching to another :d when it comes to data
[20:51] <sebsebseb> home partition I Meant
[20:51] <jackarg> sebsebseb: uh I dont know what I have but i tries startx and theres fatal error: no screens found
[20:51] <sebsebseb> jackarg: yeah well theadmin did say that woudn;'t work
[20:52] <jackarg> so now what?
[20:52] <sebsebseb> jackarg: either do a fresh install of 12.10  or well good luck finding someone else to help you :)
[20:52]  * sebsebseb will watch TV soon that's the plan
[20:52] <acidrain> theadmin, ugh... im getting unknown database. when i can look at the file and see that its clearly there
[20:52]  * sebsebseb was bored so decided to come here for a bit
[20:53] <r321> Does Ubuntu fully support Intel HD 4000 integrated graphics and if so, are those drivers free or proprietary?
[20:53] <theadmin> acidrain: Bweh. I'm not sure what the file even is, I'm just guessing.
[20:53] <acidrain> theadmin, ? eh? localhost.sql is the file
[20:53] <theadmin> r321: Intel has been releasing free drivers for a while so yes, it's supported perfectly well.
[20:53] <acidrain> i exported with phpmyadmin
[20:53] <sebsebseb> jackarg: however I do suggest a seperate /home partition :)  since that's good to have :)
[20:53] <jackarg> sebsebseb: I m out of blank cds so ill use the 12.04 that i have
[20:53] <sebsebseb> jackarg: you can set that up when installing
[20:53] <jackarg> sebsebseb: what do you mean?
[20:53] <theadmin> acidrain: Nah, I understand that, but I'm not sure how it was created. If you exported with phpmyadmin, then if the import with phpmyadmin doesn't work, something's wrong with it
[20:54] <hubahuba> r321: http://askubuntu.com/questions/228118/12-10-native-drivers-intel-hd-4000 <- says wait for 13.04
[20:54] <theadmin> Oh.
[20:54] <acidrain> :/
[20:54] <theadmin> Huh, must be something new
[20:54] <acidrain> theadmin, i need this database
[20:54] <sebsebseb> jackarg: custom install make a sepreate /home partiton in Ext4 that's what I mean :)  and have your normal  / root as well and some swap probably to,  loads of people around here should be able to help you get one of those set up :)
[20:54] <acidrain> its crucial
[20:54] <theadmin> acidrain: Well, all I can do now is say good luck, my knowledge of mysql is fairly limited.
[20:54] <sebsebseb> jackarg: then if you find you need to re install Ubuntu (or want to try out another distro),  makes it so much easier to do that, since your data is fine and stays there and :)
[20:54] <jackarg> sebsebseb: i suck at partitioning so i dont really know how...
[20:55] <Penorsaurus> so I just got the newest nvidia drivers weorking with bumblebee, how do I change the resolution though?
[20:55] <sebsebseb> jackarg: I have helped loads of people set that up in the past  with Ubuntu
[20:55] <jackarg> can you help me? :)
[20:55] <hubahuba> acidrain: what are you trying to do?
[20:56] <acidrain> hubahuba, there are a few databases in an exported file that wont import into my sql
[20:56] <acidrain> im tryhing to get those databases
[20:56] <hubahuba> acidrain: open the exported file in less and see how it starts
[20:56] <sebsebseb> jackarg: me ?
[20:56] <jackarg> yes can you help me set that up
[20:56] <acidrain> hubahuba, -- phpMyAdmin SQL Dump
[20:57] <hubahuba> it'll say something about drop if exist an create database if it's done properly
[20:57] <acidrain> hubahuba, it imported about 5 databases. it just left out about 3. which happened to be the most important
[20:57] <sebsebseb> jackarg: uhmm  there is probably a way to fix the issue your having in 12.10 I just don't know the details on how to do that that's all
[20:57] <r321> hubahuba: Thanks. I won't be getting that CPU right now anyway. But it's good to see that it will be supported in 13.04.
[20:57] <sebsebseb> jackyyll: ,but if your going to re install 12.04 soon, I could guide you in setting up a seperate /home  in the installer, doesn't take much to do that
[20:57] <hubahuba> acidrain: you should have got some error messages?
[20:57] <hubahuba> same db server, same default charset etc?
[20:58] <escott> sebsebseb, what reason do you have to think a reinstall will fix his problem?
[20:58] <jackarg> sebsebseb: sorry what did you say i accidentally disconnected
[20:58] <acidrain> hubahuba, the error message i currently get is acidshower database is already created. i cant get it to just skip trying to import that one
[20:58] <hubahuba> r321: i'm surprised it isn't there already, intel stuff is usually released quite fast
[20:58] <acidrain> and when i delete it. it says inserted successfully
[20:58] <jackarg> escott: you think you can help me without reinstalling?
[20:58] <sebsebseb> escott: it won't really,  he just suggested going back to 12.04, but I did say that the issue with 12.10 can probably have that fixed I just didn't know the details
[20:59] <gazzwi86> if I'm adding a site to my server once I have done a2ensite do I still need to add the url to /etc/hosts?
[20:59] <sebsebseb> escott: 12.04 should work though
[20:59] <escott> !nomodeset | jackarg
[20:59] <r321> Are all Intel's graphics card drivers for Linux opensource, by the way?
[20:59] <hubahuba> acidrain: ah, phpmyadmin in it's wisdom didn't include a "drop db if exist", but htat is manageable
[20:59] <sebsebseb> escott: I assume jackarg wants a working Ubuntu, and the version be it 12.10 or 12.04 doesn't matter that much
[20:59] <hubahuba> r321: intel themselves make the graphics drivers
[20:59] <acidrain> hubahuba, so any fix?
[20:59] <hubahuba> opensource and everything
[21:00] <r321> Oh, cool.
[21:00] <sebsebseb> jackarg: I said I could help you set up a seperate /home if you install 12.04, but the actsaul issue your having with 12.10 can be fixed as well, I Just don't know the details on how tod o that
[21:00] <hubahuba> probably you can get an upstream kernel from kernel.org and everything will be hunkydory
[21:00] <hubahuba> acidrain: when you manually drop the database in conflict, why does it fail again?
[21:01] <acidrain> hubahuba, hang on
[21:01] <jackarg> escott: What do i do with nomodest?
[21:01] <jackarg> sebsebseb: I'm gonna try fixing it before ;)
[21:01] <escott> jackarg, have you tried it?
[21:01]  * sebsebseb goes to watch TV, it's not 2009 or 2010  when I would get sucked into doing this a lot helping here etc
[21:01] <bazhang> sebsebseb, stop that
[21:01] <jackarg> how do i try it escott?
[21:02] <hubahuba> r321: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=intel_hd4000_ivybridge&num=1 if you want 12 page analysis of linux hd4000 performance :-D
[21:02] <escott> jackarg, there are instructions in the link
[21:02] <sebsebseb> bazhang: sorry
[21:02] <r321> hubahuba: Thanks!
[21:02] <acidrain> hubahuba, this is why: CREATE DATABASE `information_schema` DEFAULT CHARACTER SET utf8 COLLATE utf8_general_ci;
[21:02] <acidrain> i accidentally exported the information_schema. which i cannot delete
[21:02] <acidrain> it just stops there
[21:02] <sebsebseb> jackarg: good luck with your issue
[21:03] <hubahuba> acidrain: open the dump in an editor, delete all the lines about information_schema
[21:03] <hubahuba> it's just a text file
[21:03] <hubahuba> (make a copy)
[21:03] <jackarg> thanks
[21:04] <MoPac> Just reassuring myself: if I do a cut-and-paste of a file through nautilus and cancel it in the middle, it will always have a full file at the origin and a partial file at the destination, right? It won't delete the file at source until it's fully copied?
[21:05] <elwood> I just installed openoffice with sudo apt-get but now I can't run or find it. Help?
[21:06] <MoPac> elwood: have you tried typing "writer" in the dash?
[21:06] <lb27> MoPac: I thought it removed the partial
[21:07] <elwood> MoPac: in the terminal? it says cammand "writer" not found
[21:07] <hubahuba> elwood: oowriter, or oo<tab> for all varieties
[21:07] <escott> jackarg, if that doesn't work then we can look at other things, but modesetting is one of the more recent and problematic features
[21:07] <MoPac> lb27: I'm really just checking on the origin file
[21:07] <jackarg> escott: I'll get back to you im trying it out
[21:08] <lb27> MoPac: fill a file with /dev/urandom and test?
[21:08] <MoPac> I just want to be extra sure that I'm not cutting the file in half if I stop it
[21:08] <elwood> MoPac: it's not installed? I ran sudo apt-get openoffice.org, that should've installed it, yes?
[21:08] <hubahuba> MoPac: i don't think you'll find such nautilus expertise here now. make a testcase with some md5sums and reproduce?
[21:08] <MoPac> elwood: sorry, I was referring to the dash rather than the terminal -- the button at the top of the left launcher panel
[21:09] <hubahuba> elwood: i thought it was replaced by libreoffice in recent versions?
[21:09] <Penorsaurus> can anyone help me install gtx 560 drivers on ubuntu 12.10?
[21:10] <MoPac> hubahuba: he's manually installed openoffice
[21:10] <hubahuba> oowriter --help
[21:10] <hubahuba> LibreOffice 3.6
[21:10] <hubahuba> oh. oh well. have fun.
[21:10] <jackarg> escott: sorry I'm relatively a newbie and i still dont get how to use nomodeset
[21:10] <MoPac> elwood: when you ran sudo apt-get openoffice.org, what did the terminal say?
[21:11] <MoPac> elwood: sorry, I mean I assume you ran "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org" or whatever the name of the package is
[21:11] <elwood> MoPac: alot... it downloaded files from libreoffice so I think it got the most recent version...
[21:11] <elwood> MoPac: yeah
[21:12] <MoPac> ahh okay, so you installed libreoffice
[21:12] <MoPac> so if you click on the dash button and type "writer' , what happens?
[21:13] <MoPac> elwood: do any programs come up in the dash?
[21:14] <elwood> MoPac: I'm trying to find the dash... :|
[21:14] <manu88> hello and good night
[21:14] <MoPac> elwood: do you have a panel on the left side of your screen with icons?
[21:15] <elwood> MoPac: no... I'm using Lubuntu if that helps
[21:15] <hubahuba> elwood: my windows-button triggers it here
[21:15] <manu88> somebody can help? I like to know how connect with a chat in sweeden
[21:16] <elwood> MoPac: no such luck
[21:16] <MoPac> elwood: I don't have experience with Lubuntu, but here's another place you can check.  Can you open the folder /usr/share/applications ?
[21:17] <JojoBlue> hi
[21:17] <s_faraday> hi
[21:18] <JojoBlue> can i get some help with changing my admin password
[21:18] <JojoBlue> ?
[21:18] <MoPac> elwood: Let me know if you're having trouble navigating there with a file browser, and I'll give you a terminal command to try
[21:18] <s_faraday> how can i upload a file using FTP in ubuntu 12.10
[21:18] <hubahuba> elwood: you should have /usr/bin/lowriter, a symlink pointing to lowriter
[21:19] <hubahuba> uhm, oowriter, pointing at lowriter
[21:19] <s_faraday> is nautilus has this option?
[21:19] <JojoBlue> How can I change my admin password without knowing what it is?
[21:19] <MoPac> s_faraday: You can use an FTP program like Filezilla to do this
[21:19] <hubahuba> JojoBlue: sudo su - <- and then passwd
[21:19] <MoPac> s_faraday: or you can mount the FTP server like a folder and open with nautilus
[21:20] <auronandace> !noroot | hubahuba
[21:20] <zimzum_> what up ubuntu, how come i can't get nvidia drivers GT355m, i'm on 12.04
[21:20] <hubahuba> oh. what do you do if your boot asks you to fsck?
[21:20] <Dantas_> Hello
[21:21] <JojoBlue> I have tried sudu su
[21:21] <JojoBlue> it already has a password on it
[21:21] <dpb__> JojoBlue: do you mean you user password or your root password?  What exactly is failing?
[21:21] <Dantas_> How do I sort the apps shortcut in dash?
[21:21] <xiaoma> Qroot
[21:21] <xiaoma> !root
[21:21] <s_faraday> MoPac: thanks, would u please explain the second way?
[21:22] <hubahuba> goddamit no root is imbecile. all unix filessystems need an fsck.
[21:22] <MoPac> s_faraday: One basic way is to open nautilus and go to file -> connect to server
[21:22] <Cavisty> http://ustre.am/OZNp
[21:23] <Cavisty> live dnb
[21:23] <MoPac> s_faraday: If you'd like to set up and customize bookmarks to server locations that you mount, one way of doing that is to use a program called Gigolo
[21:23] <hubahuba> Check interval:           15552000 (6 months)
[21:23] <hubahuba> Next check after:         Tue Jul 16 14:27:30 2013
[21:23] <auronandace> !fsck | hubahuba
[21:23] <doomlord> does ubuntu work on the lenovo yoga or any other win8 hybrid laptop/tablet
[21:23] <DJones> Cavisty: If thats an Ubuntu problem, explain it in the channel, people won't click on random urls
[21:24] <hubahuba> auronandace: so the interval has passed and on next boot it starts an fsck. it runs into a problem. it asks: enter root pw to fix manually or reboot. what do you do?
[21:24] <hubahuba> reinstall?
[21:24] <hubahuba> go cry because you followed these stupid instructions?
[21:24] <hubahuba> (fix manually is almost always fsck -y
[21:26] <LJSeinfeld> trying to figure out how to run a command at login, (better yet when the network up) not having much success… what is the proper place / method to do this in ubuntu ?
[21:26] <raedov> hello guys , Coulde anyone help me please on SSH ?
[21:26] <xy-cloud> raedov: yes, what's your problem?
[21:27] <LJSeinfeld> command I need to run is mount_afp 'afp://USER:PASSWORD@plex.local/MediaRAID' ~/MediaRAID
[21:27] <raedov> i'm using ubuntu 12.04 and i also install lubuntu in virtualbox to try ssh
[21:27] <JojoBlue> I need the user password which has already been established.I do not know what that password is.
[21:27] <dpb__> hubahuba: you can override init parameters in grub and bypass the password check.  Or boot a live CD.  I believe this is the supported way to get around that very rare  problem.
[21:27] <hubahuba> auronandace: you're absolutely right about ubuntu's policy in this area though, I'll go kick some other dead horses.
[21:27] <MoPac> s_faraday: Is the nautilus wizard thingy working for you?
[21:27] <LJSeinfeld> on 12.04
[21:27] <raedov> and i install ssh on both of them
[21:27] <JojoBlue> how can I change it?
[21:28] <raedov> from lubuntu i install gigolo , when i choose connect to server and put the ip and password it's connected and i can see the home folder
[21:28] <lb27> LJSeinfeld: cron?
[21:28] <dpb__> JojoBlue: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword  <- first link when googling "ubuntu reset password"
[21:29] <dpb__> JojoBlue: that should work...
[21:29] <LJSeinfeld> I'm open to anything.. I was trying this http://embraceubuntu.com/2005/09/07/adding-a-startup-script-to-be-run-at-bootup/
[21:29] <s_faraday> MopaC: hum, what do u mean?
[21:29] <raedov> when i so the same thing in ubuntu from nautilus , there is a message appear  ssh program unexpectedly exited
[21:29] <LJSeinfeld> mounting as afp (it is a mac share) due to smb mounting woes (error 22)…
[21:30] <raedov> xy-cloud : any idea ?
[21:30] <s_faraday> mopac: i open nautilus and press ctrl+l bottoms
[21:30] <s_faraday> but when i insert my ftp adress
[21:30] <s_faraday> it has an error
[21:30] <LJSeinfeld> note I'm not very advanced in the world of linux, so I'm struggling a bit to get this figured out
[21:30] <lb27> LJSeinfeld: I run sshfs on reboot with my user's cron, so try crontab -e and add the command @reboot if you want to test?
[21:30] <xy-cloud> raedov: hmm, no
[21:30] <JojoBlue> dpb i found those instructions earlier and i tried them and they did not work for me. For some reason I am unable to load up the grub
[21:30] <raedov> *_*
[21:31] <JojoBlue> how to i reboot into recovery mode?
[21:31] <raedov> do you know how can i sharing files between two linux machine like ubuntu and lubuntu for example ?
[21:31] <MoPac> LJSeinfeld:  Sorry I missed some of your conversation, but have you tried just using "startup applications" ?
[21:32] <s_faraday> MoPac: http://upload.tehran98.com/img1/0uf705n7nytq1tiv5hgt.png
[21:32] <hubahuba> dpb__: let's say my laptop's battery died again. my filesystem slightly hosed, but nothing a fsck -y won't fix. bypassing the fsck isn't an option, since it won't mount. I can't burn a cd because my laptop is dead. sudo just won't cut it always. I can see that someone needing to know fsck -y might know how to set a root pw. but still.
[21:32] <LJSeinfeld> MoPac -- is there a such thing in linux?
[21:32] <MoPac> LJSeinfeld: yep, type "startup applications" in dash
[21:32] <LJSeinfeld> and I can point it to a .sh file?
[21:32] <s_faraday> MoPac: looks like it searches home directory for my ftp link
[21:33] <hubahuba> LJSeinfeld: /etc/rc.local is a classic place for startup scripts, if it's still around
[21:33] <LJSeinfeld> tried that…. no deals
[21:33] <elwood> MoPac: Thanks for your help. I'm going to try to install writer seperatly.
[21:33] <s_faraday> MoPac: and said unable to find
[21:34] <LJSeinfeld> (although there's no way of knowing if I did it right… )
[21:34] <MoPac> s_faraday: When you clicked "connect to server," did it give you a dialogue where you input the server info?
[21:34] <LJSeinfeld> except that it wouldn't work
[21:34] <MoPac> elwood: were you able to look in the applicatoins folder and see if it was there?
[21:34] <elwood> MoPac: Where's that?
[21:34] <Scognito> what is the channel for asking information about qtcreator or building ubuntu phone apps?
[21:34] <s_faraday> MoPac: no
[21:34] <MoPac> elwood:  /usr/share/applications
[21:35] <rzyz85fr> why /usr/bin/gawk is so heavy against sed?
[21:35] <MoPac> elwood: you can also try /usr/share/app-install/desktop
[21:35] <LJSeinfeld> aimed startup applications at my .sh file…gonna restart it and see if it works
[21:35] <MoPac> s_faraday: What version of Ubuntu / nautilus are you running?
[21:35] <MoPac> LJSeinfeld: You might need to make sure
[21:35] <jackarg> escott: so i did it but theres still this pending line of code for the graphical portion (ctrl alt f7)
[21:35] <MoPac> LJSeinfeld: that the .sh file is executable as a program
[21:36] <LJSeinfeld> chmod +x'd it… good enough?
[21:36] <MoPac> LJSeinfeld: or make sure that your line includes a command (./ for executing an .sh file?)
[21:36] <MoPac> LJSeinfeld: should be fine I think but I'm definitely no expert
[21:36] <s_faraday> MoPac: i don't know
[21:36] <s_faraday> MoPac: how can i know that?
[21:36] <lb27> could call it with bash, but i normally throw things in /usr/bin/ and chmod 755 it, not sure if that's sane or not
[21:37] <jackarg> escott are you there?
[21:37] <MoPac> s_faraday: can you open a terminal?
[21:37] <LJSeinfeld> it's both cool and a learning-curve problem that there are so many ways to accomplish something in linux… you can read until your eyes pop out when searching for tips
[21:37] <s_faraday> MoPac: yes
[21:37] <MoPac> s_faraday: in terminal, type nautilus --version
[21:37] <elwood> MoPac: hmm. In app-install/desktop there are libreoffice files but they don't execute.
[21:37] <LJSeinfeld> hey-- does Xbuntu have a startup applications program too?
[21:38] <elwood> MoPac: There's nothing relevant in applications
[21:38] <LJSeinfeld> it worked =D
[21:38] <lb27> LJSeinfeld: yes, it has a place to add things
[21:38] <jackarg> can anyone here help me with fixing a black screen issue in 12.10??
[21:38] <s_faraday> MoPac: GNOME nautilus 3.6.3
[21:38] <LJSeinfeld> this machine is a single core atom net top… it's decent in front of it… but VNCing to it is slower than snot
[21:39] <LJSeinfeld> VNCing into xubuntu  was very responsive
[21:39] <lb27> LJSeinfeld: settings -> settings manager -> session and startup -> application autostart
[21:39] <MoPac> s_faraday:  hmm, so I actually have an earlier version, nautilus , 3.4.1, but when I click file -> connect to server, I get a GUI that asks me to choose between SSH, FTP, etc, and enter the information
[21:39] <basiclaser> hey chaps is there a way to save all the open windows and applications i have now, and set them to automatically open on startup in their current positions?
[21:39] <MoPac> s_faraday: I think what I'd recommnd you try is gigolo
[21:40] <MoPac> s_faraday: sudo apt-get install gigolo
[21:40] <patholio> has anyone got any advice about how to fix broken packages?
[21:40] <LJSeinfeld> ok … now I just have to figure out how to make this thing connect to my VPN service at boot …
[21:40] <jackarg> can ANYONE please help me with a 12.10 black screen error??
[21:40] <LJSeinfeld> gigolo made me want to stab myself in the eyes
[21:41] <LJSeinfeld> could never get a local mount point for a share in gigolo
[21:41] <lb27> LJSeinfeld: eh, I thought it was ok, but like I said i'm an sshfs man now
[21:41] <LJSeinfeld> I also tried sshfs… my 'mount' showed up as a unknown file..
[21:42] <MoPac> s_faraday: It's true what Seinfeld said (I also had issues getting a local mount point for my FTP destination).  But unless you need other applications to find the FTP server (e.g., you're trying to tell Crashplan to put a backup there or somesuch), Gigolo did work well at letting me browse and copy files to the FTP
[21:42] <MoPac> And it's very easy and visual
[21:42] <LJSeinfeld> --but the cool part is when I tried to delete it.. it did some damage to the share… actually started deleting folders recursively there… folders that I couldn't access via the file manager
[21:43] <MoPac> elwood: If you have a .desktop file that won't execute, I'm not sure then
[21:43] <basiclaser> hey chaps is there a way to save all the open windows and applications i have now, and set them to automatically open on startup in their current positions?
[21:43] <LJSeinfeld> I'm migrating my SABnzbd box over to linux… but the drive it's going to work in is elsewhere on my LAN… so I need that share to show up as local on the linux box
[21:43] <MoPac> Have you tried the installation command again just to see what it says?  sudo apt-get install libreoffice (libreoffice-core?  Whatever the package is)
[21:44] <lb27> basiclaser: I thought they prompted for that when logging off ubuntu, i'm in xubuntu and it has a place where I can save the session in the settings.
[21:44] <LJSeinfeld> trying to squeak back some performance as windows is very slow on the machine (plus I'm not a huge fan of windows)…
[21:44] <s_faraday> MoPac: ok, thanks to answer me
[21:44] <s_faraday> i will try gigolo
[21:44] <LJSeinfeld> any python seems to suck on windows as well
[21:44] <basiclaser> lb27, thanks!
[21:45] <LJSeinfeld> err and python
[21:45] <MoPac> basiclaser: I don't know about doing that in one fell swoop, but it can be done in one way I know.  You can use "startup applications" to open the programs
[21:45] <multipack> hi all can anyone advise on how to delete folders which are in german, i can see them listed but when i try and delete them i get an error saying directory cant be found
[21:45] <MoPac> basiclaser: And you can use gdevilspie to save window locations, although it can be a bit of a blunt instrument
[21:46] <MoPac> Does anybody know if you can set window geometry in a command line that starts an application
[21:46] <MoPac> ?
[21:46] <basiclaser> hrmm yesok
[21:46] <hubahuba> multipack: old challenge. install mc, "midnight commander", and select them for deletion.
[21:46] <basiclaser> i got my setup just right so i want to save it in the sweet spot ^ ^
[21:46] <lb27> basiclaser: done a backup yet?
[21:47] <multipack> thanks hubahuba
[21:47] <basiclaser> lb27, funny you say that, i just checked and it said it failed because my backup location was too small
[21:47] <MoPac> basiclaser: Well, if you use gdevilspie, you can use its "get" function to import all the information about a currently open window, and then you can set it to do those same things to a new window that opens in the future and has the same program name, window name, etc
[21:47] <basiclaser> MoPac, OR i just never turn my laptop off again :P
[21:48] <MoPac> One caution about gdevilspie: I've found it difficult in the GUI to make it understand "AND" logic: i.e., only do this to a window whose application is Thunderbird AND whose window name includes "Write:".  But you can find the config files that gdevilspie creates and edit them manually to do that
[21:48] <Dantas_> How do I sort the apps shortcut in dash?
[21:48] <zimzum_> so i downloaded drivers from nvidia.  I can't get them to open, any sugg.
[21:48] <MoPac> Dantas_: Click and hold, then drag
[21:49] <cairne> how do i modify dpkg --get-selection to output in a way that i can page through the items, currently it turns into a long list and scrolls off to fast
[21:49] <MoPac> Dantas_: I've also grown quite fond of a program called "drawers" which lets you group the dash applications
[21:49] <lb27> cairne: dpkg --get-selection | more ?
[21:49] <MoPac> Dantas_: Sorry, I was talking about the launcher -- I don't know if you meant the actual dash window or just the left-hand panel (launcher)
[21:49] <Dantas_> Well I mean the first part right when you click the ubuntu logo, not the actual applications part
[21:50] <elwood> MoPac: Thanks for your help all the same.
[21:50] <Dantas_> dash window
[21:50] <Dantas_> mopac
[21:50] <MoPac> elwood: Did a reinstall do anything?
[21:50] <MoPac> or did it just say you had the latest version?
[21:50] <elwood> MoPac: yeah, it's installing... still
[21:50] <cairne> lb27: thank you! thats exactly what I was looking for
[21:51] <MoPac> elwood: cool, there was probably just an error on your first install, or the openoffice version pointer is screwed up
[21:51] <elwood> MoPac: ah. Bummer, it took forever the first time.
[21:51] <s_faraday> MoPac: finally i connect to my host through gigolo
[21:52] <MoPac> Dantas_: Do you mean that you want to sort the lenses (the things on the bottom that filter or get different content)?  Or do you want to sort the types of results that come when you start typing in the dash?
[21:52] <lb27> cairne: here's more about redirection http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO-3.html
[21:52] <MoPac> s_faraday: glad to hear
[21:52] <s_faraday> MoPac: it uses firefox ?
[21:52] <zimzum_> i click the m  after download,  but  then window says, gedit not resonding
[21:52] <Dantas_> zimzum_: http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/ubuntu-quetzal-nvidia.html
[21:52] <cairne> lb27: oh thats awesome, I forgot I could direct i/o to a file
[21:52] <MoPac> s_faraday: in Gigolo, go to edit - preferences
[21:53] <Dantas_> mopac: Just sort/remove the shortcuts
[21:53] <MoPac> s_faraday: in the file manager preference, type "nautilus" or whatever program you use for that
[21:53] <Dantas_> for example i have system test in there, i don't use it that often
[21:53] <lb27> cairne: I mention it because I couldn't remember if dpkg outputed that information to stdout or stderr
[21:54] <MoPac> Dantas_: sorry, I don't know about placing permanent shortcuts in the dash
[21:54] <basiclaser> MoPac, ok thanks, ill think ill avoid for now until im feeling less noob
[21:54] <MoPac> Dantas_: are they appearing under a heading like "recent programs" or such?
[21:54] <Dantas_> mopac: yeah sort of
[21:54] <MoPac> basiclaser: If you do find out a good way to save a whole bunch of apps and windows at once, please come back and let me know
[21:55] <MoPac> basiclaser: since I want the same thing and am also pretty n00bish
[21:55] <Dantas_> Because it changes accordingly the programs i use
[21:55] <MoPac> Dantas_: So if you go to your "privacy" settings menu in the Ubuntu settings program
[21:55] <lb27> MoPac: complicated xautomation script?
[21:55] <zimzum_> Dantas  Thx!! : )
[21:56] <MoPac> Dantas_: In that privacy settings menu you can tell it not to remember activity and clear what it has stored
[21:56] <MoPac> lb27: I might be up for a complicated xautomation script, sure
[21:56] <jackarg> is someone able to help me PLEASE I really need help about a black screen issue in ubuntu 12.10
[21:56] <MoPac> lb27: I'd love to be able to click on a script called "game mode" and close a whole bunch of stuff, pause my backups, etc
[21:56] <s_faraday> MoPac: it works
[21:56] <s_faraday> thanks so much!
[21:56] <s_faraday> God bless u
[21:56] <s_faraday> MoPac: :-D
[21:57] <MoPac> lb27: or "office mode" and start all kinds of communications and other applications in all the right places
[21:57] <Dantas_> mopac yeah it cleaned the whole thing
[21:57] <MoPac> s_faraday: no problem.  Remember that you might have difficulty with accessing that ftp folder from applications that are not nautilus.  If you need another program to be able to find the folder, you may have to use something different
[21:58] <MoPac> s_faraday: But supposedly you will have a folder in your home directory called .gvfs where there may be a link to your FTP folder
[21:58] <MoPac> s_faraday: If it's not there, you will find the link somewhere like /usr/share/gvfs
[21:58] <MoPac> Dantas_: good to hear
[22:00] <Dantas_> mopac thank you :)
[22:00] <s_faraday> thanks again MoPac
[22:05] <neo31> Hello, we have been working on scribus for long hours and we are stuck with some errors you can find on http://pastebin.com/M0Jmyf8Q . We need also a mentor to help ubuntu-tn introduce packaging to north africa
[22:06] <alusion> Hello I'm currently in audacity and there's alot of recording device options, how can I verify which one I should use to record?
[22:09] <ClientAlive> is there any way to zero in on what chipset is on my motherboard? I tried lspci but get what looks like generic information.
[22:10] <bravis> is there an issue that causes the bar to dissapear? or upgrede issues?
[22:11] <LJSeinfeld> anyone here have experience in connecting to openVPN via the gui?
[22:13] <MoPac> LJSeinfeld: I've just set this up yesterday
[22:13] <LJSeinfeld> it seems to want .pem files as certificates…. I have .ovpn files…
[22:13] <ylli> k
[22:13] <LJSeinfeld> I can connect via the command line.. but would like to set up an auto connect -- MoPac does yours auto connect?
[22:13] <MoPac> LJSeinfeld: my files are .key and it still accepts them because the contents are right
[22:13] <madprops> what can i use to enable the display to a tv using hdmi with a hd4000 card?
[22:13] <MoPac> LJSeinfeld: are you using the network manager gui?
[22:13] <LJSeinfeld> hmm lemme see
[22:13] <LJSeinfeld> yep
[22:14] <LJSeinfeld> user certificate?
[22:14] <MoPac> LJSeinfeld: So, firstly, the good people at #openvpn told me that the network manager GUI tends to screw up creating the openvpn configuration files and that it's better to use the program openvpn-confgen
[22:14] <MoPac> LJSeinfeld: But it should still work well enough for you to at least test it
[22:15] <MoPac> LJSeinfeld: So do you have just a single file called blahblah.ovpn ?
[22:15] <LJSeinfeld> yep
[22:15] <LJSeinfeld> 1 per server that I can choose
[22:15] <LJSeinfeld> so I have a bunch -- but only want to use 1
[22:15] <MoPac> LJSeinfeld: First, do you have an OpenVPN tab in the network manager screen?
[22:16] <LJSeinfeld> yep
[22:16] <MoPac> Have you tried the "import" button and pointed it at your .ovpn file?
[22:16] <LJSeinfeld> don't see an import button..
[22:17] <MoPac> LJSeinfeld: one sec
[22:17] <callbox47> There's a bug in network manager that doesn't handle .ovpn files with embedded keys
[22:17] <MoPac> callbox47: do you know a newer solution than http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1353796.html
[22:17] <ylli> what yor're doing people today :
[22:17] <MoPac> LJSeinfeld: that link is for you as well
[22:19] <ylli> a ka naj shqipe qitu ??
[22:20] <callbox47> I had to edit the .ovpn file and manually take out the key and crt and save them as files.  Looking for the instructions I used.
[22:21] <LJSeinfeld> tried the import… didn't import everything… still wants key files
[22:22] <MoPac> LJSeinfeld: If you open the file, can you see in plain text the contents?
[22:22] <MoPac> LJSeinfeld: If so, it could just be a matter of copy-pasting it out into new files
[22:22] <LJSeinfeld> ok -- let me make sure i'm in the correct place
[22:22] <LJSeinfeld> I clicked on the network icon at the top right of my screen an am trying to set up a new vpn connection from there
[22:23] <LJSeinfeld> or is there another network manager application I'm missing somewhere
[22:23] <LJSeinfeld> ?
[22:23] <callbox47> LJSeinfeld: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-openvpn/+bug/606365
[22:23] <MoPac> callbox47: While we're on the topic, do you know an easy way of preventing network manager from storing the password for the client key?
[22:24] <LJSeinfeld> callbox47 -- do you know if I can just rename the file to a .key file then?
[22:24] <nyuszika7h> hi, I was wondering if there is any way to get nouveaufb working with nvidia? vesafb works with it (even though it's not a really safe way - I've had no problems so far).
[22:24] <LJSeinfeld> -- off to try…
[22:25] <callbox47> LJSeinfeld: here's the instructions I used.  http://howto.praqma.net/ubuntu/vpn/openvpn-access-server-client-on-ubuntu
[22:26] <callbox47> MoPac: I don't know about the password storing
[22:27] <urielsalis> I have an idea where i post it?
[22:27] <MoPac> callbox47: do .ovpn files include all the config options as well as the keys?
[22:28] <bekks> Hopefully they dont include the keys.
[22:28] <callbox47> On my VPN, there's an option to embed, or you get a zip with four files.
[22:28]  * urielsalis wants to now where i post an idea
[22:28] <MoPac> urielsalis: It depends on what your idea is about
[22:28] <LJSeinfeld> call box --thanks -- I[ll check in a minute and report back
[22:28] <ejv> urielsalis: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/
[22:29] <MoPac> LJSeinfeld: callbox47: Just reiterating that when it comes to most of the vpn config, #openvpn was quite strenuous on the point that the config file should ideally be created manually or with openvpn-confgen rather than by Ubuntu's network manager GUI
[22:30] <LJSeinfeld> is openvpn-confgen already installed --or do I need to go get it?
[22:31] <MoPac> LJSeinfeld: https://forums.openvpn.net/topic4683.html
[22:31] <MoPac> LJSeinfeld: I got it using subversion
[22:31] <MoPac> Again, though, I think you should be able to test it out just fine using network manage
[22:31] <DeadMG> hey all
[22:32] <DeadMG> just to make sure I'm in the right place, this is the Ubuntu support channel/chat/thingy, right?
[22:32] <MoPac> DeadMG: yep
[22:32] <ejv> DeadMG: topic
[22:32] <DeadMG> oh yeah
[22:32] <LJSeinfeld> mopac --thanks
[22:32] <DeadMG> :P
[22:32] <DeadMG> I'm trying to install Ubuntu from Windows, and the Windows installer runs fine
[22:32] <LJSeinfeld> It doesn't like my oven files… so I need to do the conversion to key files
[22:32] <DeadMG> but when I try to boot Ubuntu, it just loads GRUB.
[22:33] <DeadMG> I found an answer on askubuntu saying you might have to use ls to look around the filesystem and find the bootable file for it
[22:33] <ejv> every IRC channel has a topic and and an accompanying set of guidelines; get in the habit of checking the topic when you join a new channel
[22:33] <DeadMG> but when I tried to ls the hard drives, it complained that it was a non-recognized filesystem
[22:33] <MoPac> DeadMG: are you in Windows now?
[22:33] <DeadMG> yeah
[22:33] <DeadMG> I'm not using Windows 7 or UEFI
[22:33] <DeadMG> uh, Windows 8
[22:33] <ejv> !enter | DeadMG
[22:33] <DeadMG> sorry.
[22:34] <DeadMG> I don't usually use IRC
[22:34] <MoPac> DeadMG: Windows does not natively understand the filesystems that Linux installs tend to use (which are ext2/3/4)
[22:34] <MoPac> DeadMG: There are drivers you can get to help with this, but that wouldn't be my first choice for diagnosing this problem.
[22:35] <DeadMG> yeah, I figured that, but it's GRUB that's having a problem, not Windows, I mean, I just have an NTFS partition like every other guy using Windows
[22:35] <MoPac> DeadMG: Have you had a look in your Windows partition manager?
[22:35] <ejv> DeadMG: I'd start by reading https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wubi and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot and see if you missed something
[22:35] <MoPac> DeadMG: When you boot and get to the GRUB screen, what are the options it gives you?
[22:36] <DeadMG> nothing, just a terminal. It said "Push TAB for commands", and I found a list, and tried some of them, but they either did nothing or required arguments (without mentioning what those should be)- the only one I could get to work was ls.
[22:37] <ejv> sounds like a busybox rescue console
[22:37] <MoPac> The thing that I would do here is to boot from a live CD or live USB of Ubuntu and work from in there
[22:37] <DeadMG> unfortunately, I don't have access to any removable media right now, so a live CD or USB isn't an option
[22:38] <MoPac> DeadMG: no USB stick around at all?
[22:38] <bekks> DeadMG: Those are your only options.
[22:38] <Raptors> http://evernote.com/corp/news/password_reset.php
[22:38] <Raptors> if anyone uses evernote change your pass
[22:39] <Raptors> they got hacked
[22:39] <DeadMG> no- and I see. I did have a USB stick a while ago but misplaced it :( haven't needed a USB or CD in a long time
[22:39] <MoPac> DeadMG: I think you might have one more option, depending on whether the filesystem that has been used for the Ubuntu installation is ext2, ext3, or ext4.  There is the program ext2fsd , which is for Windows
[22:39] <DeadMG> didn't you say that Windows doesn't understand any of the Linux filesystems?
[22:40] <MoPac> With it, Windows can read/write ext2 filesystems, read and force write to ext3, and may or may not also do something with ext4
[22:40] <MoPac> DeadMG: ext2fsd is an add-on driver for Windows to get it to try to understand them
[22:40] <DeadMG> cause the folder that the Ubuntu installer created seems to be opening fine in the Windows Installer
[22:40] <MoPac> If it works for you, then you may be able to read/edit the GRUB config files and other boot files to see where the problem is
[22:41] <DeadMG> there's a ubuntu/install/boot/grub/grub.cfg
[22:41] <ejv> DeadMG: he said they don't *natively* support it
[22:41] <ejv> < MoPac> DeadMG: Windows does not natively understand the filesystems that Linux installs tend to use (which are ext2/3/4)
[22:41] <ejv> adverbs matter
[22:42] <DeadMG> yeah, I didn't install any extras in this regard; perhaps the Wubi installer does?
[22:42] <MoPac> DeadMG: Because I'm not familiar with the Windows Ubuntu installer, I'm not sure where that folder actually is.  Is it on the Ubuntu boot partition?
[22:42] <maxped> how can i batch rename XYZ to Xyz. i have been trying mv with no luck
[22:42] <DeadMG> I think so
[22:42] <MoPac> DeadMG: open the Windows partition manager
[22:42] <DeadMG> I mean, the Wubi installer didn't create a dedicated Ubuntu partition
[22:43] <DeadMG> it just created a folder on my existing NTFS partition
[22:43] <MoPac> DeadMG: ah, okay, then I may be out of my depth here -- I'm only used to doing Ubuntu installs with their own boot and root partitions and Windows in a separate one
[22:43] <MoPac> I didn't even know that was possible
[22:44] <DeadMG> well, there's a giant 30GB file (the size I requested) here called "root.disk"
[22:44] <ylli> with the help me since a fool ahhaahhahhahhaahhhahhahaha
[22:44] <bekks> DeadMG: In that file, there's your Ubuntu wubi install.
[22:45] <MoPac> DeadMG: First, you probably need to have a look in the grub boot folder that you *can* read and see if there is a problem with the config
[22:46] <ejv> maxped: man sed
[22:46] <MoPac> DeadMG: Failing that, you might try installing http://www.ext2fsd.com/ and trying to mount that .disk file
[22:46] <sifu_> hey folks i am trying to turn the magic_quotes off in my server (/etc/php5/apache2/php.ini) but i still see the magic quotes are turned on
[22:46] <DeadMG> the config opens with echo "Completing the Ubuntu installation.", which I never saw on the screen, so I suspect that it never runs- especially since GRUB said it couldn't read any of my hard disks.
[22:46] <bekks> sifu_: Did you restart apache2 after modifying that file?
[22:46] <sifu_> i changed the value to off for all 3 magic_quotes option, restarted the server and still shows it's on
[22:46] <sifu_> service restart apache2
[22:47] <sifu_> i saw some questions in stackoverflow and it seems to be just not me...
[22:47] <ylli> Albanian is any?
[22:47] <bekks> sifu_: Then you should investigate php_info() to get more information about which init file is being used by php
[22:47] <MoPac> DeadMG: What else is in there? (under 00 header and 10 Linux)
[22:47] <sifu_> Loaded Configuration File	/etc/php5/apache2/php.ini
[22:48] <ylli> Albanian is any?
[22:48] <sifu_> bekks, and that is what i edited
[22:49] <bekks> sifu_: Could you pastebin that file after reviewing it for confidential information?
[22:49] <DeadMG> MoPac: It seems to imply that there should be some options for continuing the install. I pasted the config http://pastebin.com/YMsLumMT if you want to see it.
[22:49] <sifu_> bekks, sure
[22:49] <OerHeks> ylli Shqip (Albanian) : #ubuntu-al
[22:51] <MoPac> DeadMG: I'm not an expert, but this seems like maybe a problem's been encountered mid-install, and this is some kind of temporary config
[22:51] <sifu_> bekks, http://pastebin.com/ZgdmSaKW
[22:51] <sifu_> it's just a test server in my local vagrant box...so nth sensititve really
[22:52] <bekks> sifu_: Thats not the config of the php.ini in question.
[22:52] <sifu_> ermm
[22:52] <DeadMG> yeah, the "Will be modified" thing at the top kinda implies that. I think that the root of the issue is that GRUB can't read the hard drive, and can't find the config to tell it what to do
[22:52] <MoPac> DeadMG: Have you looked iat https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide#Cannot_boot_into_Ubuntu ?
[22:53] <DeadMG> hmm, I did have a look, but didn't see that
[22:53] <DeadMG> I do have the requisite root.disk but I can try running chkdsk and see what it comes up with
[22:53] <sifu_> bekks, but this is coming from the same server i am making changes
[22:53] <bekks> DeadMG: chkdsk will not help you in any way.
[22:53] <MoPac> DeadMG: There's also https://calamari.wordpress.com/2009/12/01/fixing-a-broken-wubi-grub-after-ubuntu-updates/ and http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/20340/how-to-restore-the-wubi-ubuntu-bootloader/ - I don't have experience with those
[22:54] <bekks> sifu_: And still, I asked for the content of the php.ini :)
[22:54] <sifu_> ohhh
[22:54] <sifu_> gawd i am being an idiot..srry
[22:54] <sifu_> just a moment
[22:55] <LJSeinfeld> callbox47  http://howto.praqma.net/ubuntu/vpn/openvpn-access-server-client-on-ubuntu works
[22:56] <DeadMG> well, it could be related to the *other* boot-related problem I've been having. After I installed a Ubuntu VM, I played with it for a while, then deleted it- but the Ubuntu option never went away. I wonder if my boot table is plain corrupted or something?
[22:56] <sifu_> bekks, http://pastebin.com/GHtwhmvg
[22:57] <sifu_> bekks, i added those last 3 lines in desperation
[22:57] <sifu_> the ini file comes from /etc/php5/apache2/
[22:57] <bekks> sifu_: That file is just broken.
[22:58] <sifu_> erm in what sense except those last 3 lines
[22:58] <bekks> sifu_: Put the ; back in front of all "3 values". There are no 3 values - but only 1. The three lines are suggestions.
[22:58] <sifu_> okey my bad...i edited that too indespration
[22:59] <bekks> sifu_: magic_quotes_gpc = Off
[22:59] <bekks> sifu_: Thats the only line you need.
[22:59] <DeadMG> going to reboot and take a poke at GRUB again
[23:00] <sifu_> bekks, did all of that and still nth
[23:00] <LJSeinfeld> so now that i have openVPN setup in network manager -- how do I make it start up when the machine starts?  I see a 'connect automatically' check box there.. but that looks too easy…
[23:00] <foo1> #samba-technical
[23:00] <bekks> sifu_: So what does your config look like now?
[23:01] <sifu_> just a moment let me pastebin it
[23:02] <sifu_> bekks, http://pastebin.com/Q6uqBMgC
[23:03] <bekks> sifu_: Go to line 99 and start fixing your previous error on the other sections :)
[23:03] <sifu_> okey
[23:04] <maxped> ejv: thanks. that looks like something that will take some time to wrap my head around.
[23:05] <sifu_> bekks, duhhh thank you good sir
[23:05] <bekks> sifu_: you're welcome :)
[23:05] <sifu_> why wouldn't the server warn me i messed up
[23:05] <sifu_> i was under the impression that it would
[23:05] <sifu_> so never though to think about it
[23:07] <DeadMG> nah- GRUB won't play any ball since it can't read my hard drives. Guess I'll have to wait until I can find some removable storage. Don't suppose you can boot off an iso stored on iPhone or something like that? :P
[23:07] <bekks> DeadMG: No, you cant.
[23:08] <MoPac> DeadMG: You might be able to load something onto the SD card, but it's a lot more grief than doing a USB
[23:08] <ActionParsnip> deadmg: grub can boot ISOs so as long as Grub can get to the storage then yes it is possible
[23:08] <MoPac> DeadMG: In the meantime, see if ext2fsd can mount your .disk file as a linux partition
[23:08] <ActionParsnip> deadmg: its just not easy
[23:09] <MoPac> MoPac: Although I would agree that it seems more likely your problem is in the boot folder you can read rather than in the .disk area that you can't read at the moment
[23:10] <DeadMG> MoPac: Frustratingly, despite the fact that I have 310GB free on that HDD even after the 30GB for Ubuntu, it seems that Windows can't find more than 1GB spare for another partition.
[23:11] <MoPac> DeadMG: you don't need to actually create any new partitions
[23:11] <MoPac> DeadMG: ext2fsd has a mount manager, and you can point it to the file and tell it that it's a linux partition
[23:11] <MoPac> DeadMG: or just that it's an ext filesystem area
[23:12] <tytt> hello. i have a shell and i want to install sBNC on it. how to do it ?
[23:12] <MoPac> DeadMG: It will then mount the file as a drive with its own drive letter (sorry for the /enter)
[23:13] <jrib> tytt: sbnc is in the repositories; use apt
[23:13] <jrib> !software | tytt
[23:13] <necku> I installed ubuntu 12.04 dual boot on my macbook pro. I'm used to type alt+shift+8 and +9 for curly braces, but i doesn't work.. how can I adjust to this behaviour in ubuntu?
[23:14] <DeadMG> MoPac: It would do that, if it actually shipped with an installer. The readme references an executable that doesn't exist and the setup bat file which another readme claims should do it errors out. I guess it's just one of those days :P
[23:15] <MoPac> DeadMG: did you get the exe from http://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2fsd/files/Ext2fsd/0.51/ ?
[23:15] <DeadMG> MoPac: Oh, no, I grabbed one of the zip thingies. Thanks.
[23:16] <MoPac> It may be that you have to tweak something in windows to get it to work (test mode), but try that exe first
[23:16] <SrPx> So I've just set up ubuntu on a VPS. Which is the right software to get an apache server running, with mysql and phpmyadmin? Xampp?
[23:16] <jrib> !lamp | SrPx
[23:16] <tony_lech> Is there a good guide on how to set up something to be managed by the 'service' command? Wanted to get a teamspeak server going on my server
[23:16] <SrPx> ubottu: ty
[23:17] <Allard> hello
[23:17] <jrib> !upstart | tony_lech
[23:17] <jrib> tony_lech: read the upstart cookbook
[23:17] <Allard> Libre Office won't start
[23:17] <necku> my right alt-key works like on a mac, but not my left... how can I change this?
[23:17] <tony_lech> jrib: thanks!
[23:17] <Allard> how do I start it
[23:17] <Allard> please
[23:18] <Allard> will someone answer
[23:18] <jrib> !helpme | Allard
[23:18] <ActionParsnip> allard: try running it from terminal. the output may help
[23:18] <SrPx> jrib: ty meant to you *
[23:18] <Allard> what is the command
[23:18] <[1]Nick> !attitude
[23:19] <ActionParsnip> allard: libreoffice
[23:19] <Allard> this is what I get:
[23:19] <Allard> /usr/bin/libreoffice: 49: cd: can't cd to lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 34 ���../lib/libreoffice/program
[23:19] <Allard> /usr/bin/libreoffice: 156: exec: /usr/bin/oosplash: not found
[23:19] <bekks> !paste > Allard
[23:20] <Allard> ok
[23:20] <Allard> I saw it
[23:20] <Allard> it is two lines only
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> necku: if you run xev in terminal. Does the key create events?
[23:20] <Allard> did it help
[23:20] <Allard> what do I do now
[23:20] <necku> ActionParsnip yes
[23:21] <Allard> it used to work
[23:21] <ActionParsnip> allard: please use pastebinit to give the output of:  apt-csche policy libreoffice; lsb_release -a
[23:21] <Allard> ok
[23:21] <nichlas> apt-cache*
[23:22] <ActionParsnip> necku: you could use xmodmap to set the functionality of the key
[23:22] <bekks> Allard: "apt-cache policy libreoffice".
[23:22] <bekks> There was a typo above.
[23:22] <ActionParsnip> nichlas: thanks
[23:22] <ActionParsnip> typing on this tablet isnt great
[23:22] <necku> ActionParsnip, so there's no "make the layout kind on mac-like" already? :) ....
[23:23] <necku> *kind of
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> necku: i guess not. you'll find people want to benefit from their mac tax :-)
[23:24] <Allard> here it is the link:
[23:24] <Allard> http://pastebin.com/08piJdE2
[23:24] <Allard> bekks
[23:24] <Nephro> How do I unpack the filesystem off a live usb dist?
[23:24] <Nephro> without booting it
[23:25] <bekks> Allard: I guess the raring support can be in #ubuntu+1
[23:25] <ActionParsnip> allard: raring isnt supported here til release day. ask in #ubuntu+1
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> allard: if you cant fix stuff like this you probably shouldnt use prerelease. its nit ready and not stable
[23:26] <Allard> alright
[23:26] <Allard> but I am already using it
[23:26] <nintet> i have a cortex A8 tablet, what version of ubuntu can i install?
[23:26] <Allard> plus it worked before
[23:26] <Allard> with the last install of raring
[23:27] <Allard> just this one won't work
[23:27] <ActionParsnip> allard: support is in #ubuntu+1 until release day. the top of the channel says this when you joined the channel
[23:27] <Allard> noone answers there
[23:27] <Allard> noone writes
[23:27] <escott> Nephro, i believe its just a gzip, either that or a squashfs
[23:27] <ActionParsnip> allard: doesnt make it supported here
[23:28] <Nephro> escott, how do I uncompress squashfs
[23:28] <ActionParsnip> allard: i suggest you run: ubuntu-bug libtroffice   and report the bug
[23:28] <nintet> can i install ubuntu on this tablet ?
[23:28] <escott> Nephro, i would search for mount squashfs or mount casper. im sure that will get you some instructions
[23:29] <Maccer> Anyone know where I can look up the maintainer for a certain package or what guidelines I need to follow so I can take over? There's a package here that hasn't been updated in quite a bit even though both there is a higher stable and unstable version. (It's an audio player)
[23:29] <Allard> it said the package libre office does not exist
[23:29] <ActionParsnip> nintet: its just an ARM CPU so I'd imagine its possible
[23:30] <ActionParsnip> allard: the search your packages for the right name and repoet the bug for that package
[23:30] <Maccer> Ah apparently Debian Multimedia Maintainers maintain it.
[23:30] <Allard> actually it was written erroneously above that is why
[23:31] <Allard> now it is ok
[23:31] <ActionParsnip> allard: sweet. when the bug gets fixed the application will then work
[23:32] <Allard> ok
[23:32] <Allard> thanks
[23:36] <Nephro> Where do the livecds keep the stuff that /home contains after boot?
[23:37] <bekks> Nephro: They dont keep it, it is lost after shutdown.
[23:37] <Nephro> no, it's a persistent system
[23:38] <bekks> Nephro: The it is stored in the partition you've created when creating the persistent live media.
[23:39] <Nephro> well, it has a 700mb squash fs partition, but it's home folder is empty
[23:40] <Kiril> guys
[23:40] <Kiril>   Your system does not provide a working zlib compression library. The
[23:40] <Kiril>   compress module will therefore be disabled.
[23:40] <Kiril> what package i need to prevent this message ?
[23:40] <bekks> Kiril: Which Ubuntu are you on? What are you doing that produces that message?
[23:40] <nafac> is it safe to chmod 0777 /var/www?
[23:41] <Fantastic_> Who likes Black Sabbath here?
[23:41] <bekks> Nephro: No. Not at all.
[23:41] <Nephro> bekks, no what?
[23:41] <Fantastic_> I want to uninstall some packages of my O.S.
[23:41] <bekks> Nephro: That will allow everyone accessing your webserver to modify files, even external users.
[23:41] <Kiril> 12.04
[23:41] <Nephro> it's nafac bekks
[23:41] <Fantastic_> AD DC is very good too....
[23:41] <bekks> Nephro: Sorry :)
[23:42] <bekks> nafac: No. No at all...
[23:42] <Nephro> bekks, for that, help me with my problem
[23:42] <Kiril> bekks
[23:42] <delinquentme> Ok so I want to run a search for all the files in a system ending in .conf ... and then grep those files for a given string "DocumentRoot"
[23:42] <Kiril> eggdrop
[23:42] <nell> My ubuntu is completely frozen, can't even go into tty
[23:42] <nell> is it time to force shutdown
[23:42] <Fantastic_> From terminal, can I just write the list?
[23:42] <bekks> delinquentme: grep -ri yourstring *.conf
[23:42] <Fantastic_> Of programs to uninstall?
[23:43] <lenny__> anyone have an issue with getting a black screen on login for 12.04 after updating the kernel to 3.6. It loads the grub then a black screen but if i hit enter it goes to the log in like normal I haven't been able to find anyone with the same issue googling.
[23:43] <Fantastic_> Eg: vlc vlc-plugin amarok grub kernel
[23:43] <Nephro> bekks, can initrd.img keep the persistent stuff?
[23:43] <ActionParsnip> !info linux-image precise
[23:43] <bekks> Nephro: I dont think so.
[23:43] <delinquentme> bekks, no go ... also shouldn't I be piping something?
[23:43] <Kiril> any solution ?
[23:43] <bekks> delinquentme: That works perfectly over here.
[23:44] <ActionParsnip> lenny_: precise doesnt use 3.6 kernel
[23:44] <bekks> Kiril: Not without more details.
[23:44] <bekks> !details > Kiril
[23:44] <delinquentme> bekks, grep "DocumentRoot" -ri *.conf
[23:44] <Fantastic_> F** it! Sorry I am angry..
[23:44] <delinquentme> No such file or directory
[23:45] <Fantastic_> No one answer me..
[23:45] <Fantastic_> F**
[23:45] <bekks> !attitude > Fantastic_
[23:45] <artabbb> rr
[23:45] <bekks> !patience > Fantastic_
[23:45] <selena2013> if we dont have anwser we cannt anwser lol
[23:45] <lenny__> ActionParsnip: ya i know it has 3.2 default but i updated it to 3.6 in order to fix a few other problems with a wireless card and a program. just unsupported then? which is fine because it's not an issue that causes real trouble
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> delinquentme: could use: grep -i to make it case insensitive too :-)
[23:45] <Kiril> bekks, I'm running Ubuntu version 12.04 i've tried to compiled eggdrop with compress module support on ./configure gives me this : checking for zlib.h... no
[23:46] <Kiril> it can be more detailed :)
[23:46] <ActionParsnip> lenny_: kernels not fron the ubuntu repos are not supported here
[23:46] <Fantastic_> bekks Thank you. I do not need answer anymore.
[23:46] <delinquentme> grep: /usr/*.conf: No such file or directory ActionParsnip
[23:47] <ActionParsnip> fantastic: apt-get can take multiple packages to install as well as remove
[23:47] <Fantastic_> !grub | Fantastic_
[23:47] <bekks> delinquentme: find / -type f -print0 -exec grep -i yourstring "{}" \;
[23:48] <Fantastic_> !LILO
[23:49] <Fantastic_> I want LILO ubottu. I know, you aren't intelligent, just a bot..
[23:49] <ActionParsnip> delinquentme:  grep -R -i documentroot /usr/* | grep conf
[23:49] <Fantastic_> whatever..
[23:49] <basiclaser> can someone talk me through how to install 'z' for bash? its a script that jumps to your most common directories when you partially type the location. i downloaded it , and tried to ./ the .sh file, but it said it was to be sourced and not executed. . . any ideas?
[23:50] <ActionParsnip> basiclaser: is the file marked as executable?
[23:51] <ActionParsnip> kiril: you can search http://packages.ubuntu.com
[23:52] <basiclaser> ActionParsnip, yeh i checked and tried again, no dice
[23:52] <ActionParsnip> !find zlib.h
[23:54] <basiclaser> ActionParsnip, what does that tell you ? :)
[23:54] <ActionParsnip> basiclaser: does the all group have execute access too? if you change to the folder and run: ls -l ./filenamehere.    what is output?
[23:57] <basiclaser> it just says my user name twice plys -rwxrwxrwx 1
[23:57] <basiclaser> plus*
[23:57] <basiclaser> ActionParsnip,
[23:58] <ActionParsnip> basiclaser: great its runable. try:  ./filename
[23:59] <ActionParsnip> basiclaser: the ./ bit is important as pwd is not in $PATH
[23:59] <SrPx> I've installed vsftpd. Then I ran `service vsftpd stop´. I can still login to the ftp server. Strange. Any idea whey?
[23:59] <SrPx> why*