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MaccerI feel dirty for upgrading to raring. Oh well it's only xubuntu.00:31
penguin42hey raring is ok00:32
Maccer1.2GB upgrade. Must have changed a lot. And probably some of my PPA-derived software probably was downgraded/upgraded.00:35
MaccerAm I redownloading everything or something? I already have firefox 19.0.00:50
xnoxMaccer: do you have firefox 19 build against quantal libraries, or against raring libraries?!00:56
xnoxeach release gets its own firefox.....00:56
xnoxapart from like first couple of week of the new release.00:56
MaccerI can't check at the moment, I just caught a glimpse. I was surprised the libraries weren't backwards compatible or something like that.00:56
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hallynkees: jinkeys, that's unkind (delaying error) - thanks :)01:57
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metheris there a way to get the split out patches from http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/raring/subtitleripper05:44
metherthis diff http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/s/subtitleripper/subtitleripper_0.3.4-0.5ubuntu2.diff.gz seems to have all the patches together05:44
geofftmether: there are three patches in debian/patches in that diff05:46
geofftmether: i.e., that (top-level) diff creates three patch files.05:46
geofftmether: if you extract the source package (`apt-get source subtitleripper`, or dget the .dsc and then dpkg-source -x), it'll be easier05:47
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methergeofft,  thanks but i am not running ubuntu/debian now. is there an alternative way?05:53
Chipzzmether: yes05:54
metherChipzz, can you elaborate?05:54
Chipzzmether: get the .tar.(gz|bz2), extract, get the .diff.gz, patch the extracted directory05:54
geofftmether: sure, download the .orig.tar.gz and .diff.gz, untar the former, unzip the latter | patch -p1 or something05:54
metherok. thanks!05:55
Chipzz(sorry, on a crappy connection, serious lag on my ssh connection)05:55
geofftmether: dpkg-dev also may or may not exist on your distro, if you're on non-Ubuntu Linux05:55
methergeofft, in fact, i do seem to have it.  i will take a look05:55
metherChipzz, geofft, got it.  thanks again06:01
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mitya57Mirv: hi, here?15:22
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dirtyfreebooterI am building a custom kernel via make-kpkg but my symlinks in /lib/modules/*/build are never correct on the installed system, they always point to build directory on the system I built the kernel on17:41
dirtyfreebooterand I noticed the postinst/preinst/etc scripts from /usr/share/kernel-package are different then the ones inside the official ubuntu kernel packages17:41
dirtyfreebooteris there any recommended approach here when building a custom kernel to get those symlinks correct ? its cause dkms to hate me17:42
dirtyfreebooteri've also tried different options in /etc/kernel-img.conf, but it doesn't seem to matter17:44
Chipzzdirtyfreebooter: I doubt this qualifies as the right channel for your questions. Your questions are support questions, this channel is for the development OF ubuntu only.17:47
penguin42dirtyfreebooter: Perhaps #ubuntu-kernel ?17:48
Chipzzand what penguin42 said17:48
dirtyfreebooterk, thanks17:48
Chipzzdirtyfreebooter: as an aside, I don't think make-kpkg is a supprted way of building kernels17:49
dirtyfreebooterok, that is strange, as multiple pages on ubuntu.com show make-kpkg as the way to build ubuntu kernel from ubuntu git repo.. I'll ask in #ubuntu-kernel though. thanks17:50
ChipzzI *think* the correct way of doing things is apt-get source linux-... and rebuilding that17:51
Chipzzcorrect as in: officially supported17:51
Chipzzalthough I must say the whole situation *IS* confusing17:52
TheMusoc22:01
melodiehello23:17
melodiesorry23:18
melodieI would like to ask this one question : I work on both Ubuntu box and Debian box, and I was seeking for a "language-selector-gnome" package at Debian when I realized it's an Ubuntu only package. How come is that ? Aren't programs supposed to be packaged at Debian before being brought to Ubuntu ? and aren't Ubuntu packages supposed to be also available at Debian ?23:20
sarnoldmelodie: see e.g. unity for another counter-example :)23:20
melodiesarnold could you explain to the non English native I am ?23:21
melodiedo you mean:23:21
melodieUnity is not available at Debian either ?23:21
sarnoldmelodie: correct23:21
melodieok, but that is a very special desktop environment, whereas having an easy tool to switch language can be more than handy : a matter of being able to use a distro, a spin, whatever ?23:22
sarnold(I _am_ a little surprised about it, I expected someone would have packaged it for debian.. but it doesn't happen on at least one "core" ubuntu package...)23:23
melodie:s23:23
melodiedo you know of a chan where Debian developers/packagers go preferably ?23:25
sarnoldmelodie: hrm. I thought dpkg-reconfigure locales   was supposed to provide a nice interface for changing the system-wide locales, but that just rebuilt the locales :/23:25
melodieI would like to ask them the same question23:25
melodieconfiguring the language in Debian is a pain in the bottom23:25
melodiehere my testimonial: Scorpio RC4 - obsession - languages - http://beta.linuxvillage.net/index.php/topic,171.0.html23:26
jbichamelodie: http://wiki.debian.org/IRC/23:27
melodieI had reconfigured the install completely, and the apps get back to English for at any time, after an update, and such23:27
melodiejbicha thank you!23:27
sarnoldmelodie: heh, /list #debian-* scrolled outside of my scrollback on OFTC. I'd try just #debian on irc.oftc.net first...23:27
melodieI am not sure... some there just yell about "frankendebian" spins. :-(23:28
sarnoldheh, that's not very helpful :(23:29
melodienot helpful, and not polite.23:29
sarnoldmelodie: are you confident your application is supposed to have up-to-date french translations?23:29
melodieI happened to ask something about hem, antiX once, that's how I was welcome.23:29
sarnoldmelodie: maybe #debian-fr would be nicer?23:29
sarnoldit is smaller, anyway, that sometimes leads to more polite.23:30
melodiewell, confident yes, because I have the same in Archlinux and because when I reinstall the app after checking all configs, it's in French again.23:30
melodiesarnold this is a good idea. thank you23:30
melodieI'll add it to my favorites and go tomorrow as it begins to be really late here now23:31
sarnoldmelodie: I would expect the application to check your LC_* and LANG environment variables and select the language to show right then and there -- does your locale environment variables change away from french?23:31
sarnoldah, yes, so it is. :) better luck on monday vs sunday, too...23:31
melodieno, locale is fr-FR_UTF823:31
melodieyes, that's right23:31
jbichaI believe language-selector-gnome is designed around Ubuntu's language packs which aren't used by most other distros23:32
melodiejbicha possible - well another example,23:32
melodiesoftware center is Ubuntu made, but is available at Debian too23:32
melodieI'll look for some package from Semplice if none is available specifically for Debian23:33
melodieI heard about a tool23:33
melodiethanks a lot. :)23:36
sarnoldhave fun :)23:36
melodieI guess we do; at linuxvillage we make spins of Debian and Ubuntu to create ready to use versions with Openbox and not much more around. we like to go light, but easy to use. :)23:37
Chipzzmelodie: #debian-devel on irc.debian.org iirc23:58

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