Maccer | I feel dirty for upgrading to raring. Oh well it's only xubuntu. | 00:31 |
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penguin42 | hey raring is ok | 00:32 |
Maccer | 1.2GB upgrade. Must have changed a lot. And probably some of my PPA-derived software probably was downgraded/upgraded. | 00:35 |
Maccer | Am I redownloading everything or something? I already have firefox 19.0. | 00:50 |
xnox | Maccer: do you have firefox 19 build against quantal libraries, or against raring libraries?! | 00:56 |
xnox | each release gets its own firefox..... | 00:56 |
xnox | apart from like first couple of week of the new release. | 00:56 |
Maccer | I can't check at the moment, I just caught a glimpse. I was surprised the libraries weren't backwards compatible or something like that. | 00:56 |
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hallyn | kees: jinkeys, that's unkind (delaying error) - thanks :) | 01:57 |
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mether | is there a way to get the split out patches from http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/raring/subtitleripper | 05:44 |
mether | this diff http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/s/subtitleripper/subtitleripper_0.3.4-0.5ubuntu2.diff.gz seems to have all the patches together | 05:44 |
geofft | mether: there are three patches in debian/patches in that diff | 05:46 |
geofft | mether: i.e., that (top-level) diff creates three patch files. | 05:46 |
geofft | mether: if you extract the source package (`apt-get source subtitleripper`, or dget the .dsc and then dpkg-source -x), it'll be easier | 05:47 |
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mether | geofft, thanks but i am not running ubuntu/debian now. is there an alternative way? | 05:53 |
Chipzz | mether: yes | 05:54 |
mether | Chipzz, can you elaborate? | 05:54 |
Chipzz | mether: get the .tar.(gz|bz2), extract, get the .diff.gz, patch the extracted directory | 05:54 |
geofft | mether: sure, download the .orig.tar.gz and .diff.gz, untar the former, unzip the latter | patch -p1 or something | 05:54 |
mether | ok. thanks! | 05:55 |
Chipzz | (sorry, on a crappy connection, serious lag on my ssh connection) | 05:55 |
geofft | mether: dpkg-dev also may or may not exist on your distro, if you're on non-Ubuntu Linux | 05:55 |
mether | geofft, in fact, i do seem to have it. i will take a look | 05:55 |
mether | Chipzz, geofft, got it. thanks again | 06:01 |
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mitya57 | Mirv: hi, here? | 15:22 |
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dirtyfreebooter | I am building a custom kernel via make-kpkg but my symlinks in /lib/modules/*/build are never correct on the installed system, they always point to build directory on the system I built the kernel on | 17:41 |
dirtyfreebooter | and I noticed the postinst/preinst/etc scripts from /usr/share/kernel-package are different then the ones inside the official ubuntu kernel packages | 17:41 |
dirtyfreebooter | is there any recommended approach here when building a custom kernel to get those symlinks correct ? its cause dkms to hate me | 17:42 |
dirtyfreebooter | i've also tried different options in /etc/kernel-img.conf, but it doesn't seem to matter | 17:44 |
Chipzz | dirtyfreebooter: I doubt this qualifies as the right channel for your questions. Your questions are support questions, this channel is for the development OF ubuntu only. | 17:47 |
penguin42 | dirtyfreebooter: Perhaps #ubuntu-kernel ? | 17:48 |
Chipzz | and what penguin42 said | 17:48 |
dirtyfreebooter | k, thanks | 17:48 |
Chipzz | dirtyfreebooter: as an aside, I don't think make-kpkg is a supprted way of building kernels | 17:49 |
dirtyfreebooter | ok, that is strange, as multiple pages on ubuntu.com show make-kpkg as the way to build ubuntu kernel from ubuntu git repo.. I'll ask in #ubuntu-kernel though. thanks | 17:50 |
Chipzz | I *think* the correct way of doing things is apt-get source linux-... and rebuilding that | 17:51 |
Chipzz | correct as in: officially supported | 17:51 |
Chipzz | although I must say the whole situation *IS* confusing | 17:52 |
TheMuso | c | 22:01 |
melodie | hello | 23:17 |
melodie | sorry | 23:18 |
melodie | I would like to ask this one question : I work on both Ubuntu box and Debian box, and I was seeking for a "language-selector-gnome" package at Debian when I realized it's an Ubuntu only package. How come is that ? Aren't programs supposed to be packaged at Debian before being brought to Ubuntu ? and aren't Ubuntu packages supposed to be also available at Debian ? | 23:20 |
sarnold | melodie: see e.g. unity for another counter-example :) | 23:20 |
melodie | sarnold could you explain to the non English native I am ? | 23:21 |
melodie | do you mean: | 23:21 |
melodie | Unity is not available at Debian either ? | 23:21 |
sarnold | melodie: correct | 23:21 |
melodie | ok, but that is a very special desktop environment, whereas having an easy tool to switch language can be more than handy : a matter of being able to use a distro, a spin, whatever ? | 23:22 |
sarnold | (I _am_ a little surprised about it, I expected someone would have packaged it for debian.. but it doesn't happen on at least one "core" ubuntu package...) | 23:23 |
melodie | :s | 23:23 |
melodie | do you know of a chan where Debian developers/packagers go preferably ? | 23:25 |
sarnold | melodie: hrm. I thought dpkg-reconfigure locales was supposed to provide a nice interface for changing the system-wide locales, but that just rebuilt the locales :/ | 23:25 |
melodie | I would like to ask them the same question | 23:25 |
melodie | configuring the language in Debian is a pain in the bottom | 23:25 |
melodie | here my testimonial: Scorpio RC4 - obsession - languages - http://beta.linuxvillage.net/index.php/topic,171.0.html | 23:26 |
jbicha | melodie: http://wiki.debian.org/IRC/ | 23:27 |
melodie | I had reconfigured the install completely, and the apps get back to English for at any time, after an update, and such | 23:27 |
melodie | jbicha thank you! | 23:27 |
sarnold | melodie: heh, /list #debian-* scrolled outside of my scrollback on OFTC. I'd try just #debian on irc.oftc.net first... | 23:27 |
melodie | I am not sure... some there just yell about "frankendebian" spins. :-( | 23:28 |
sarnold | heh, that's not very helpful :( | 23:29 |
melodie | not helpful, and not polite. | 23:29 |
sarnold | melodie: are you confident your application is supposed to have up-to-date french translations? | 23:29 |
melodie | I happened to ask something about hem, antiX once, that's how I was welcome. | 23:29 |
sarnold | melodie: maybe #debian-fr would be nicer? | 23:29 |
sarnold | it is smaller, anyway, that sometimes leads to more polite. | 23:30 |
melodie | well, confident yes, because I have the same in Archlinux and because when I reinstall the app after checking all configs, it's in French again. | 23:30 |
melodie | sarnold this is a good idea. thank you | 23:30 |
melodie | I'll add it to my favorites and go tomorrow as it begins to be really late here now | 23:31 |
sarnold | melodie: I would expect the application to check your LC_* and LANG environment variables and select the language to show right then and there -- does your locale environment variables change away from french? | 23:31 |
sarnold | ah, yes, so it is. :) better luck on monday vs sunday, too... | 23:31 |
melodie | no, locale is fr-FR_UTF8 | 23:31 |
melodie | yes, that's right | 23:31 |
jbicha | I believe language-selector-gnome is designed around Ubuntu's language packs which aren't used by most other distros | 23:32 |
melodie | jbicha possible - well another example, | 23:32 |
melodie | software center is Ubuntu made, but is available at Debian too | 23:32 |
melodie | I'll look for some package from Semplice if none is available specifically for Debian | 23:33 |
melodie | I heard about a tool | 23:33 |
melodie | thanks a lot. :) | 23:36 |
sarnold | have fun :) | 23:36 |
melodie | I guess we do; at linuxvillage we make spins of Debian and Ubuntu to create ready to use versions with Openbox and not much more around. we like to go light, but easy to use. :) | 23:37 |
Chipzz | melodie: #debian-devel on irc.debian.org iirc | 23:58 |
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