[00:31] <Maccer> I feel dirty for upgrading to raring. Oh well it's only xubuntu.
[00:32] <penguin42> hey raring is ok
[00:35] <Maccer> 1.2GB upgrade. Must have changed a lot. And probably some of my PPA-derived software probably was downgraded/upgraded.
[00:50] <Maccer> Am I redownloading everything or something? I already have firefox 19.0.
[00:56] <xnox> Maccer: do you have firefox 19 build against quantal libraries, or against raring libraries?!
[00:56] <xnox> each release gets its own firefox.....
[00:56] <xnox> apart from like first couple of week of the new release.
[00:56] <Maccer> I can't check at the moment, I just caught a glimpse. I was surprised the libraries weren't backwards compatible or something like that.
[01:57] <hallyn> kees: jinkeys, that's unkind (delaying error) - thanks :)
[05:44] <mether> is there a way to get the split out patches from http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/raring/subtitleripper
[05:44] <mether> this diff http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/s/subtitleripper/subtitleripper_0.3.4-0.5ubuntu2.diff.gz seems to have all the patches together
[05:46] <geofft> mether: there are three patches in debian/patches in that diff
[05:46] <geofft> mether: i.e., that (top-level) diff creates three patch files.
[05:47] <geofft> mether: if you extract the source package (`apt-get source subtitleripper`, or dget the .dsc and then dpkg-source -x), it'll be easier
[05:53] <mether> geofft,  thanks but i am not running ubuntu/debian now. is there an alternative way?
[05:54] <Chipzz> mether: yes
[05:54] <mether> Chipzz, can you elaborate?
[05:54] <Chipzz> mether: get the .tar.(gz|bz2), extract, get the .diff.gz, patch the extracted directory
[05:54] <geofft> mether: sure, download the .orig.tar.gz and .diff.gz, untar the former, unzip the latter | patch -p1 or something
[05:55] <mether> ok. thanks!
[05:55] <Chipzz> (sorry, on a crappy connection, serious lag on my ssh connection)
[05:55] <geofft> mether: dpkg-dev also may or may not exist on your distro, if you're on non-Ubuntu Linux
[05:55] <mether> geofft, in fact, i do seem to have it.  i will take a look
[06:01] <mether> Chipzz, geofft, got it.  thanks again
[15:22] <mitya57> Mirv: hi, here?
[17:41] <dirtyfreebooter> I am building a custom kernel via make-kpkg but my symlinks in /lib/modules/*/build are never correct on the installed system, they always point to build directory on the system I built the kernel on
[17:41] <dirtyfreebooter> and I noticed the postinst/preinst/etc scripts from /usr/share/kernel-package are different then the ones inside the official ubuntu kernel packages
[17:42] <dirtyfreebooter> is there any recommended approach here when building a custom kernel to get those symlinks correct ? its cause dkms to hate me
[17:44] <dirtyfreebooter> i've also tried different options in /etc/kernel-img.conf, but it doesn't seem to matter
[17:47] <Chipzz> dirtyfreebooter: I doubt this qualifies as the right channel for your questions. Your questions are support questions, this channel is for the development OF ubuntu only.
[17:48] <penguin42> dirtyfreebooter: Perhaps #ubuntu-kernel ?
[17:48] <Chipzz> and what penguin42 said
[17:48] <dirtyfreebooter> k, thanks
[17:49] <Chipzz> dirtyfreebooter: as an aside, I don't think make-kpkg is a supprted way of building kernels
[17:50] <dirtyfreebooter> ok, that is strange, as multiple pages on ubuntu.com show make-kpkg as the way to build ubuntu kernel from ubuntu git repo.. I'll ask in #ubuntu-kernel though. thanks
[17:51] <Chipzz> I *think* the correct way of doing things is apt-get source linux-... and rebuilding that
[17:51] <Chipzz> correct as in: officially supported
[17:52] <Chipzz> although I must say the whole situation *IS* confusing
[22:01] <TheMuso> c
[23:17] <melodie> hello
[23:18] <melodie> sorry
[23:20] <melodie> I would like to ask this one question : I work on both Ubuntu box and Debian box, and I was seeking for a "language-selector-gnome" package at Debian when I realized it's an Ubuntu only package. How come is that ? Aren't programs supposed to be packaged at Debian before being brought to Ubuntu ? and aren't Ubuntu packages supposed to be also available at Debian ?
[23:20] <sarnold> melodie: see e.g. unity for another counter-example :)
[23:21] <melodie> sarnold could you explain to the non English native I am ?
[23:21] <melodie> do you mean:
[23:21] <melodie> Unity is not available at Debian either ?
[23:21] <sarnold> melodie: correct
[23:22] <melodie> ok, but that is a very special desktop environment, whereas having an easy tool to switch language can be more than handy : a matter of being able to use a distro, a spin, whatever ?
[23:23] <sarnold> (I _am_ a little surprised about it, I expected someone would have packaged it for debian.. but it doesn't happen on at least one "core" ubuntu package...)
[23:23] <melodie> :s
[23:25] <melodie> do you know of a chan where Debian developers/packagers go preferably ?
[23:25] <sarnold> melodie: hrm. I thought dpkg-reconfigure locales   was supposed to provide a nice interface for changing the system-wide locales, but that just rebuilt the locales :/
[23:25] <melodie> I would like to ask them the same question
[23:25] <melodie> configuring the language in Debian is a pain in the bottom
[23:26] <melodie> here my testimonial: Scorpio RC4 - obsession - languages - http://beta.linuxvillage.net/index.php/topic,171.0.html
[23:27] <jbicha> melodie: http://wiki.debian.org/IRC/
[23:27] <melodie> I had reconfigured the install completely, and the apps get back to English for at any time, after an update, and such
[23:27] <melodie> jbicha thank you!
[23:27] <sarnold> melodie: heh, /list #debian-* scrolled outside of my scrollback on OFTC. I'd try just #debian on irc.oftc.net first...
[23:28] <melodie> I am not sure... some there just yell about "frankendebian" spins. :-(
[23:29] <sarnold> heh, that's not very helpful :(
[23:29] <melodie> not helpful, and not polite.
[23:29] <sarnold> melodie: are you confident your application is supposed to have up-to-date french translations?
[23:29] <melodie> I happened to ask something about hem, antiX once, that's how I was welcome.
[23:29] <sarnold> melodie: maybe #debian-fr would be nicer?
[23:30] <sarnold> it is smaller, anyway, that sometimes leads to more polite.
[23:30] <melodie> well, confident yes, because I have the same in Archlinux and because when I reinstall the app after checking all configs, it's in French again.
[23:30] <melodie> sarnold this is a good idea. thank you
[23:31] <melodie> I'll add it to my favorites and go tomorrow as it begins to be really late here now
[23:31] <sarnold> melodie: I would expect the application to check your LC_* and LANG environment variables and select the language to show right then and there -- does your locale environment variables change away from french?
[23:31] <sarnold> ah, yes, so it is. :) better luck on monday vs sunday, too...
[23:31] <melodie> no, locale is fr-FR_UTF8
[23:31] <melodie> yes, that's right
[23:32] <jbicha> I believe language-selector-gnome is designed around Ubuntu's language packs which aren't used by most other distros
[23:32] <melodie> jbicha possible - well another example,
[23:32] <melodie> software center is Ubuntu made, but is available at Debian too
[23:33] <melodie> I'll look for some package from Semplice if none is available specifically for Debian
[23:33] <melodie> I heard about a tool
[23:36] <melodie> thanks a lot. :)
[23:36] <sarnold> have fun :)
[23:37] <melodie> I guess we do; at linuxvillage we make spins of Debian and Ubuntu to create ready to use versions with Openbox and not much more around. we like to go light, but easy to use. :)
[23:58] <Chipzz> melodie: #debian-devel on irc.debian.org iirc