[05:09] <alexandros_c> I need some help please, I installed the scanner drivers for my Brother MFC-J425W ALL-in-One in lubuntu but simple scan does not see the scanner. However my other computer running xubuntu can see the scanner using simple scan. Anyone have any ideas?
[05:11] <phiscribe> missing some package is my guess alexandros_c
[05:12] <JohnDoe_71Rus> or udev rules
[05:13] <alexandros_c> I checked the missing to the best of my ability between the two systems and installed those that were missing but no luck :(
[05:14] <alexandros_c> JohnDoe_71Rus,  do you know where to locate the udev rules so that I can compare them between the two system?
[05:15] <phiscribe> sane-utils sane xsane worth a try.  are those installed on the xubuntu box?
[05:15] <JohnDoe_71Rus> alexandros_c: lsusb the same?
[05:16] <alexandros_c> phiscribe, already tried all of that but no luck
[05:16] <alexandros_c> no network
[05:16] <alexandros_c> not usb
[05:19] <phiscribe> does the xubuntu box have the brother scanner util, brscan3 or whatever its called\
[05:19] <alexandros_c> brscan4
[05:19] <phiscribe> and its on the lubuntu box also?
[05:19] <alexandros_c> yes
[05:20] <phiscribe> permisions?
[05:20] <alexandros_c> how to find out permissions in this case?
[05:20] <phiscribe> im not sure, just trying to help you brainstorm.
[05:21] <alexandros_c> phiscribe, appreciating the help may be you will come with something I overlook :)
[05:22] <phiscribe> is it 32 bit or 64 bit
[05:22] <alexandros_c> 64
[05:22] <alexandros_c> on both
[05:22] <phiscribe> do you have a usr/lib64 folder
[05:23] <alexandros_c> yip
[05:24] <phiscribe> i wonder of you could compare whats in that folder on the two machines, looking for scanner relavant stuff.  maybe something wants parts of that to be in /usr/lib instead.  just thinking out loud.
[05:24] <phiscribe> my lubuntu machines are all old 32 bit
[05:25] <lighta> ho guys, I'm searching how to permanently turn off screensaver on lxde
[05:25] <alexandros_c> that machine has a low end processor
[05:25] <phiscribe> alexandros_c, maybe here:  http://welcome.solutions.brother.com/bsc/public_s/id/linux/en/faq_scn.html#f00101
[05:33] <phiscribe> lighta, its always been a bit mysterious to me.  i have screensaver disabled but my power settings blank the screen after awhile.  i dont remember how  i turned it off.
[05:34] <lighta> ok I turn it off last time
[05:34] <lighta> but wasn't permanent
[05:34] <phiscribe> the lxde sight says its in an openbox autostart.sh file, but ive never seen it.
[05:34] <phiscribe> site
[05:35] <JohnDoe_71Rus> phiscribe: you сan use xfce4-power manager
[05:35] <lighta> also I'm trying to look wich one i'm using since I don't remenber installation but I think I'm on ubuntu with xfce, not lubuntu session, but you can try in /etc/xdg/lxsession/LXDE/autostart
[05:36] <phiscribe> ah yes.  ty JohnDoe_71Rus
[05:37] <JohnDoe_71Rus> http://linuxreviews.org/quicktips/screenblanking/index.html.en
[05:38] <JohnDoe_71Rus> section about DPMS
[05:41] <alexandros_c> phiscribe, should I make a soft or hard link?
[05:47] <alexandros_c> thanks phiscribe and JohnDoe_71Rus  that was the problem
[05:48] <alexandros_c> you believe that I have been search for weeks to find a solution! but it only took you'll a few minutes
[05:49] <JohnDoe_71Rus> i belive to you
[05:50] <alexandros_c> so their is a bug in lubuntu?
[05:50] <alexandros_c> *there
[05:50] <JohnDoe_71Rus> i find it then connect TV instead monitor
[05:51] <JohnDoe_71Rus> not bug. 2 technology
[05:52] <alexandros_c> good night all o/
[06:03] <JohnDoe_71Rus> morning :)
[12:34] <lantizia> OK so I installed 13.04 in a VM... and I'm still thinking... *meh*
[12:36] <lantizia> *meh* because there is still things like abiword/gnumeric when libreoffice clearly wins out... *meh* because theres is no pulseaudio (and mainly I cry about this because on gnome/unity it has really good sound preferences)... *meh* because the icons used in the menu are not the originals and i've no idea how to get the originals back unlike in mate/gnome2
[12:36] <lantizia> anyone know of any other lxde but ubuntu-derived distro's ?
[12:41] <lantizia> ah! program icons update only when log in and out :S hmm
[12:42] <phiscribe> lantizia, man im not sure what your looking for, maybe kde.  abiword and gnumeric are light.  i run lubuntu on a p4 with 1g ram, sometimes 1/2 gig.  pulseaudio will idle 30% cpu.  all those sound utils eat resources.  alsamixer works like a champ.
[12:42] <phiscribe> i replace chromium with midori
[12:44] <lantizia> see i'd replace chromium with chrome  - but that's just me
[12:45] <lantizia> at the moment I use MATE... but since LXDE has a bigger following than MATE (well ok at least I *think* they do) and MATE is gnome2 which is some very old code... i'd ratheer follow lxde
[12:45] <lantizia> i don't need something as fancy as kde/unity/gnome3
[12:48] <lantizia> also mtpaint might be light weight - but it is way too feature rich for a simple paint program
[12:48] <lantizia> like exporting ascii art wtf ?
[12:48] <lantizia> kpaint is a good choice - but then the downside is it needs kde libraries lol
[12:49] <lantizia> the entertainment pack that is installed looks like it is from an ancient pre-Xorg linux 2.0 release lol - simon tathams games would make a fine lightweight non-gnome choice though
[15:04] <cerebrate> how do i download data from youtube
[15:04] <cerebrate> the data of the video
[15:04] <cerebrate> it doesn't play all the way :C
[15:05] <cerebrate> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ycn-I1-aDwo&feature=endscreen&NR=1
[16:01] <phiscribe> puts the youtube somewhere chromiums cache.  hard to dig out without a cache viewer tool.  easier just to use a web service like this:  http://en.savefrom.net
[16:03] <phiscribe> and i think the source field which reality emerges from is pure consciousness btw cerebrate
[16:04] <cerebrate> cool=
[16:06] <phiscribe> but if you use that en.savefrom.net site it will give you a url straight to the file, like http://s03.savefrom.net/media/212203819/427df958db63be44bea1fbfdb13594ff/Quantum+Physics+%26+Consciousness.mp4
[18:26] <Kuroda_Shun> i have a install question
[18:27] <Kuroda_Shun> i have a razorSQL fro my linux boz in zip form.. but dont know how to install it
[18:27] <Kuroda_Shun> *box
[19:37] <divx118> Can the battery icon be removed in the tray (lubuntu 11.10)?
[19:38] <zleap> have a look at panel preferences
[19:39] <zleap> or panel settings
[19:40] <divx118> Hmm, must have overlooked it then. I will take a look again.
[19:41] <phillw> divx118: it is under Preferences --> Power Manager
[19:48] <divx118> phillw: Is it xfce4-power-manager? I am missing the power manager entry under preferences.
[19:50] <phillw> divx118: let me check my repos in my 11.10 (I may have the developer backports ppa enabled).
[19:51] <phillw> sorry, was checking my 12.04. Starting oneric now.
[19:52] <divx118> No problem, I have time :)
[19:54] <Unit193> Keep in mind it's life ends in April.
[19:55] <phillw> Right Click on the task-bar, select Add / Remove Panel Items, select Panel Applets. You should see the Battery Monitor icon listed.
[19:57] <divx118> Ah, It will be time then that I fix my touchscreen driver. No right click yet.
[19:58] <divx118> Thanks for the info.
[19:59] <phillw> divx118: it may an idea to update to 12.04, even though not LTS for all lubuntu specific applications, the kernel / browser etc will retain LTS from 'core' ubuntu teams
[20:05] <divx118> phillw: I won't gain much by updating to ubuntu 12.04 I am working on an arm device with a half ported 2.6.37 kernel. There are still some things I need to fix in the kernel. Most problems I encounter are kernel related.
[20:06] <divx118> I wanted the battery icon gone, because I want my own coded icon to replace it.
[20:07] <divx118> Battery is working, but my kernel doesn't support acpi.
[20:07] <divx118> So I just want to read the value directly from /sys
[20:11] <gomiboy> divx118: I'm curious... what arm device?
[20:12] <divx118> archos 101IT gen8 with 3630 processor from TI
[20:12] <divx118> Close to beagleboardXM
[20:12] <divx118> Original kernel is 2.6.29
[20:16] <gomiboy> Oh, a tablet, out of mi interests, thanks :)
[20:44] <redtape-renegade> None of my packages are installing on the Lubuntu Software Center.. anyone else got this ?
[20:52] <zleap> i am sure latex can do that sort of thing
[21:30] <aJacom> if i install lubuntu instead of ubuntu will i be able to run all the applications or will i have a reduced number of options?
[21:31] <gohst> As far as I have seen there should be no problems...
[21:32] <aJacom> gohst, my question comes because i know there are some applications built for gnome, and lubuntu uses lxde
[21:33] <aJacom> sorry
[21:33] <aJacom> did you say anything ?
[21:34] <Unit193> Same repos, so same programs.
[21:34] <Unit193> Now, you'll want to be careful with gnome ones, and some kde ones too, but you can install them.
[21:35] <gohst> as i have seen in my own expirience is that there are seldom real trouble... i have changed my netbook from ubuntu-gnome to lubuntu and i have no trouble... yet
[21:35] <aJacom> alright, nice, thanks