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AlanBellinteresting looking HP all in one with Ubuntu on it16:37
AlanBellhttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/03/hp-launch-ubuntu-all-in-one-pc-for-34916:38
AlanBellskype and adobe reader preinstalled16:39
AlanBelloverall the description seems accurate and pretty good16:40
AlanBell"HP recommends Windows." just above the purchase button, but meh16:41
PiciI wonder what support resources they provide for it.16:44
CalinouAlanBell: all in one16:50
Calinoucan you see?16:50
Calinoushit mobile hardware inside16:50
Calinoudo like the real men, build a desktop16:50
Calinouwhere you put actual parts and no noname stuff16:50
Calinouyou can upgrade these too16:51
CalinouAlanBell: btw, they're being paid for their famous "x recommends windows" ;)16:51
IdleOnesuch hostility16:58
AlanBellCalinou: yeah, I know how it works, it is actually worse than the fact that they are paid for it17:16
AlanBellthey get audited and if every page of every brochure and every page of their website doesn't contain it then they lose their discounts and co-marketing funds17:17
CalinouIdleOne: I'm hostile to people who make poor computer choices17:19
IdleOneIt rarely gets you the desired outcome though17:20
IdleOneleast in my experience17:20
rasherHi, so. I find it mildly offensive that the download page shows me a skull graphic if I choose not to donate.17:32
rasherLoud noises.17:32
IdleOnelink?17:33
rasherhttp://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/questions?distro=desktop&bits=64&release=latest17:33
IdleOneis this before or after you click the Pay with paypal button?17:34
IdleOneI see no skull17:34
rashermove all the sliders to 017:34
rashersame graphic is displayed briefly (until the browser moves on) if you click "Not now, take me to the download"17:35
IdleOnehmm yeah I see17:36
IdleOneI suppose you could email canonical at the contact us link17:38
IdleOneit does seem odd they would use a skull for $017:39
Calinourasher: there's a "download for free button" if you're scared of .pngs17:41
rasherCalinou: you mean the "Not now, take me to the download" link? That still changes the icon to the skull (while the next page loads). And I'm not scared, I just think it's rude, considering Ubuntu is built on mountains of free software.17:43
Calinouit's a joke17:44
Calinouskulls don't always mean "u dead"17:44
Calinouif you're not happy, enjoy your debian with its rusty, stale or broken packages17:45
rasherHuh? I realise it's a joke, but it's a bad one.17:45
rasherDo you have any useful input?17:45
Calinoulol, debian user's excuse, saying people are useless17:46
IdleOnedoesn't appear to.17:46
CalinouIdleOne: I know a lot of debian users which use the same kind of excuse, just go to #debian-offtopic @ espernet, see by yourself17:47
IdleOneWhat does that have to do with Ubuntu?17:48
Calinouubuntu is based on debian17:48
IdleOneCalinou: are you trolling?17:48
* Calinou presses K17:48
Calinouplease don't ban me :(17:49
IdleOneDon't act like a fool :)17:49
IdleOneAnyway, rasher I am not personally bothered by the graphic but I can see why it would bother some people. best advice I can give is contact Canonical and explain your concerns17:52
rasherYeah, I just might.17:52
Calinoumore like, they're even requesting donations... they're a company17:53
Calinouif you don't want to donate: no "ad" is going to make you change. just like any other ad17:53
rasherI never said I don't want to donate.17:54
AlanBellseen the Mir thing?18:43
AlanBellrasher: there is a bug about the skull thing18:44
IdleOneskimmed the specs real quick18:44
AlanBellwell in theory it is all openGL to put stuff on screen18:44
IdleOneI'm not technical enough to make an informed decision on it18:44
AlanBellso things like dropshadows will be *actually* shadows rather than the abomination that is the top panel shadow at the moment18:45
IdleOneWhat I did get from it is that somewhere around May 2014 I should maybe expect my desktop to explode18:45
rasherAlanBell: Sweet, thanks! (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website-content/+bug/1066792 for the curious)18:45
ubot5Launchpad bug 1066792 in ubuntu-website-content "Donation Skull-Icon is Inappropriate" [Undecided,Confirmed]18:45
AlanBellI am not expecting the bug to get fixed any time soon18:48
AlanBellI think that doing a transition from X to mir in a rolling release will be . .  brave18:49
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