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jdstrandhi!18:00
mdeslaurhello!18:01
jjohansen\o18:01
tyhicksHi18:01
sarnoldo/18:01
jdstrand#startmeeting18:02
meetingologyMeeting started Mon Mar  4 18:02:18 2013 UTC.  The chair is jdstrand. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.18:02
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jdstrandThe meeting agenda can be found at:18:02
jdstrand[LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/Meeting18:02
jdstrand[TOPIC] Announcements18:02
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jdstrandUDS is this week. Be sure to check the schedule for things to attend and subscribe to blueprints18:02
jdstrandatm, we are leading just one session on webkit, but there is a lot of others to attend18:03
* jdstrand is leading the webkit one18:03
jdstrandwe decided not to rehash the stuff we are currently working on and will just plan for the months based on what we have, since it is all still relevant18:04
jdstrand[TOPIC] Weekly stand-up report18:04
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jdstrandI'll go first18:04
jdstrandI'm on community this week18:04
jdstrandthis week is mostly about planning and UDS for me18:05
jdstrandI'm also on the books to patch pilot (I may do that late in the week)18:05
jdstrandmdeslaur: you're up18:05
mdeslaurI'm in the happy place this week! :P18:05
mdeslaurthis week, I'm working on python-django, and will be attending UDS18:06
mdeslaurI have a couple of bugs to investigate18:06
mdeslaurand will pick something else off the CVE list time-premitting18:06
mdeslaurthat's it for me18:06
mdeslaursbeattie: you're up18:06
sbeattieI'm on apparmor again this week.18:06
sbeattieStill working on the display manager prototype.18:07
sbeattieI'll also be prepping for ad attending UDS.18:07
sbeatties/ad/and/18:07
sbeattiethat's it for me, tyhicks?18:07
tyhicksI need to do some prep for UDS today (and obviously attend it tue and wed)18:08
tyhicksI am finishing the kernel and libapparmor query interface patches18:08
tyhicksThat's probably about it18:08
tyhicksjjohansen: you're up18:08
jjohansenwell I am prepping for and attending UDS this week18:09
jjohansenafter which I will be syncing up with tyhicks on the new query interface and testing dbus with the base socket labeling18:10
tyhicksOh yeah, I'll also be updating the dbus code to use the socket based labeling18:10
tyhicksjjohansen: I see that a new raring kernel is out, so I'll also rebase our apparmor patches in the dbus-dev PPA18:11
jjohansenand if there is time I will also work on fixing some of the stacking problems when the stack is split across a namespace18:11
jjohansensarnold: your up18:11
sarnoldI'm on triage this week, uds of course, and going through John's patches (yay, I'm past rcu :)18:12
sarnoldI'm looking forward to some tyhicks's patches too :D nom nom nom18:12
sarnoldjdstrand: back to you18:12
jdstrandthanks18:13
jdstrand[TOPIC] Highlighted packages18:13
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jdstrandThe Ubuntu Security team will highlight some community-supported packages that might be good candidates for updating and or triaging. If you would like to help Ubuntu and not sure where to start, this is a great way to do so.18:13
jdstrandSee https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/UpdateProcedures for details and if you have any questions, feel free to ask in #ubuntu-security. To find out other ways of helping out, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/GettingInvolved.18:13
jdstrandhttp://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/beaker.html18:13
jdstrandhttp://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/gnustep-base.html18:13
jdstrandhttp://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/cobbler.html18:13
jdstrandhttp://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/squidclamav.html18:13
jdstrandhttp://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/qmail.html18:13
jdstrand[TOPIC] Miscellaneous and Questions18:13
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jdstrandDoes anyone have any other questions or items to discuss?18:13
jdstrand#endmeeting18:21
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meetingologyMeeting ended Mon Mar  4 18:21:42 2013 UTC.18:21
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jdstrandmdeslaur, sbeattie, tyhicks, jjohansen, sarnold: thanks!18:21
sarnoldthanks jdstrand :)18:21
tyhicksthanks!18:21
jjohansenthanks jdstrand18:22
sbeattiejdstrand: thanks!18:22
mdeslaurthanks jdstrand!18:22
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kees\o/20:58
pittihello20:58
jbichao/20:58
* pitti moderates soren's apology20:59
keesbased on email, cjwatson is not available for this meeting.20:59
keesah, okay, soren too.21:00
kees#startmeeting21:00
meetingologyMeeting started Mon Mar  4 21:00:09 2013 UTC.  The chair is kees. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.21:00
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keesso, Apologies from cjwatson and soren. stgraber, here?21:00
kees[topic] Action review21:01
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keesseems like UbuntuKylin is on its way. were there any unresolved actions from that?21:01
pittiI'm still not fully happy with the fcitx thing21:02
pittibut I guess that's a matter for debate and decision/testing within the Kylin community21:03
pittithe other issues were clarified AFAICS21:03
keesbut it's in progress, right? I guess I mean, are there any things the TB needs to examine during this meeting?21:03
keesokay, coll21:03
keeser, cool21:03
kees[TOPIC] Brain storm review21:04
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* stgraber waves21:04
keesI didn't see any new replies...21:04
pittikees: not that I c an see21:04
pittikees: no; TBH, I think at this point we should call this round "done"21:04
keesokay21:04
pittibut wrt. to this, I don't think that even this round was terribly useful21:04
keesyeah, it seemed pretty quiet.21:04
pittieven the most favorite one only got some 60 votes or so21:05
keesshould we do one more cycle starting in may and if it's similarly quiet, just drop it?21:05
pittiwe could also bury it now and see whether anyone complains21:05
pittibut we should perhaps do this when we have more TB members21:05
pittibonsoir stgraber21:06
keesagreed. let's bump it until we have >3 at the meeting :)21:06
kees[TOPIC] Scan the mailing list archive21:06
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keesonly thing here might be the release cycle changes21:06
pittiI think we should defer this until after UDS21:07
keesyeah, agreed.21:07
pittialthough I guess most things already popped up on the ML21:07
pitti(which was actually a really good discussion IMHO)21:07
keesI'm going to go through the ubuntu-devel thread a little more carefully and see if I can comment usefully on any of it21:07
stgraberI believe the plan is for someone to e-mail the TB with a real proposal shortly after UDS, we can pick it up from there21:08
keesok21:08
keesI also see "Flavor Review Request for Ubuntu GNOME"21:08
pittioh right, I was meaning to reply to that, but forgot, sorry21:08
keesyeah, me too :P21:08
stgraberah yeah, jbicha poked me about that one on IRC... should have followed up too21:09
keesI'm generally in favor of it. I'd like to see the same for a MATE flavor once it's all the way in Debian too.21:09
stgraberand slangasek asked me to check the current state of Kylin and start creating the packageset and matching teams for it21:09
jbichahi :) the rolling thing is a bit disruptive but I think we still want to go ahead with our proposal for now21:09
pittihey jbicha21:09
mdzkees, MATE?21:09
keesmdz: yes, Gnome 2 fork. It's wonderful.21:09
pittijbicha: with "All of the packages we need have been in Ubuntu since last September." you mean all the build deps for the gnome3 PPA?21:10
pittijbicha: as I understand it, the gnome PPA is actually delivering what you want, or do you envision the current raring gnome (i. e. mostly 3.6) as that remix, and just use different default settings with it?21:10
jbichapitti: I meant things like ubuntu-gnome-meta and ubuntu-gnome-default-settings (which contains our minimal artwork)21:10
pittijbicha: ok, so ubuntu gnome == what's in the distro, and the PPA is the staging area for contributors still?21:11
jbichathe PPA does not provide us with daily image builds or recognition as an equal flavor with like Kubuntu or Xubuntu which is nice for marketing purposes21:12
jbichathere is demand for images with the GNOME3 PPA pre-installed...I don't know if we want to discuss that at this meeting?21:13
pittiso in general I'm very favorable of this; we should cross-check it against the list of requirements for flavours21:14
pittistgraber, do you happen to have that link handy? ^21:14
keesyeah, no PPAs in an official image, please. :)21:14
pitti^ + 121:14
jbichakees: ok, I wasn't planning to discuss that today either :)21:15
stgraberpitti: one sec21:15
pittijbicha: but for the RR we'll eventually have the same problem of having these kind of staging areas which are eventually landed in the distro; I guess that'll use a very similar model like the gnome3 ppa21:15
stgraberpitti: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecognizedFlavors21:15
jbichaby the way we do have a staging ppa now too for stuff that isn't ready for the Ubuntu archives https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3-staging/+packages?field.series_filter=raring21:16
keesstgraber: thanks. yeah, it seems like this qualifies easily.21:16
pitticommunity interest (point 1) is certainly there21:17
pittijbicha: did ricotz, darkxst, and you sign the CoC? (I assume so)21:17
jbichathe GNOME3 PPA was for stuff that we thought was ready for Ubuntu but sharing the archives with Unity meant we had to wait longer21:17
pittijbicha is in ~u-desktop, so that covers upload21:17
jbichapitti: yes all 3 of us have21:17
stgraberyeah, I'm pretty sure that Ubuntu GNOME qualifies.21:18
pittiand all three of you have been active for a long time already21:18
stgraberthey'll still need to talk to the cdimage team to make sure that there's enough space and resources to build the images, but that's a separate matter21:18
pitti"follow release process" is somewhat in the air now :)21:18
pittibut given that GNOME defined our original one, that's also ok :)21:18
pittiright21:18
pittiso as for "Guidelines to become and remain a recognized flavor", I think you're all set21:19
pittiso +1 from me21:20
keesyeah, I've emailed my +1.21:20
keessabdfl gave his +1. mdz, stgraber: ?21:20
mdzI think i need to abstain, lacking context21:21
mdzmultitasking right now also21:21
stgraber+121:21
keeswhat is the next technical step? emailing IS?21:22
pittiI think so; we need sign-off that there's enough space, and then ask the release team to set up daily isos21:22
stgraberso I'm going to go ahead and create packagesets + upload teams for both Kylin and UbuntuGnome21:23
stgraberthe respective teams can then apply with the DMB to get upload rights21:23
keesokay21:23
stgraberif they wish to get daily builds, they'll have to contact the cdimage team to check for space and resources for the build21:23
* kees nods21:23
stgraberand the cdimage team may ask IS to check for space on the build machines, mirrors, tapes if required21:24
kees[ACTION] stgraber to create packagesets + upload teams for Kylin and UbuntuGnome21:24
meetingologyACTION: stgraber to create packagesets + upload teams for Kylin and UbuntuGnome21:24
stgraberso I think we just want to highlight in the minutes that we have two new flavours, point to their wiki pages and I'll work with them to get everything setup21:24
kees[TOPIC] Check up on community bugs21:25
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keessounds good, yeah21:25
keeswe have no open bugs...21:25
stgraberwe don't add new flavours everyday, so I expect I'll have to make part of the process as I go ;)21:25
kees[TOPIC] other business?21:25
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keesheh21:25
kees*crickets*21:26
keesnext chair? mdz?21:26
pittinothing from me21:26
JackYuhi, I am Jack from UbuntuKylin team. Is there anything we should go ahead?21:27
keesJackYu: I think you're okay for the moment. stgraber will be pushing some buttons to finalize things.21:27
stgraberJackYu: I think we have everything we need to proceed and start setting up your flavour21:27
keesmdz: if the next meeting time isn't good for being chair, feel free to update the wiki. :) I'll mark you down for now.21:28
JackYuGreat. Thanks!21:28
keesI think that's it for this time. Anything else?21:28
mdzkees, it's fine, thanks and sorry21:29
keesheh21:29
keesnp21:29
keesalright everyone, thanks!21:29
kees#endmeeting21:29
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meetingologyMeeting ended Mon Mar  4 21:29:17 2013 UTC.21:29
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mdzI think it's during pycon but I'll manage21:29
pittithanks everyone21:29
pittigood night!21:29
keesg'night!21:29
JackYugood night!21:30
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